AB de Royse777 weird standards

[notblox1]

I will dedicate this topic to member Royse777 or AB de, or whatever his forum profile name is now after he changed it many times.

He is trying to work as a manager in bitcointalk and altcoinstalks forum, and we know him from many incidents with mixers and casino websites.

This is a long history that needs time so I will update things slowly, but I can mention that he was involved with scams and he lost money of clients and forum members.
I will talk more about this in future when I collect all the information from bitcointalk.

Let me start with Jokermix review campaign that he started on July 15: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.0

This was his terms:

For a basic review which is somehow useful, you will receive $30 in BTC reward.
For an expert review which address important issues and suggest solutions, you will receive $60.
For an expert review which address important issues, suggest solutions, give resources with in-depth knowledge, you will receive $100

Many people applied, send coins for mixing and wrote review, but Royse pick and choose only selected people to receive payment:

Chilwell   $30.00   
NikeFit_7777   $40.00   
examplens   $50.00   
Mate2237   $30.00   
PX-Z   $50.00   
NotATether   $70.00   
FinneysTrueVision   $15.00   
bitmover   $65.00   
Cryptsafe   $15.00   

I was one of the people that review but didnt get paid, and I would be ok with that, but than I was curious to read all other reviews.
Some of them did great job but I wont judge myself and I will leave you to check this for yourself.

Lets start with lower rewards first.

$15 - he paid something that was not in the rules, minimum was $30!

BTC wallet address: bc1qk8vexml0zl55w0xn5hj3fvjm5w4vywdtvd5kl4

Review on JokerMix.to

The joker mixers website is quite a good and user friendly interface. The design is very much unique and different from the few ones I have used in the past which makes it more interesting and attractive  to use. I used google chrome to access the website.

I noticed that the mixer activities is under maintenance with caution not to put anything for the time being otherwise you face the risk of losing your coin. Since I could not try that function, I took my time to read through the website to see if there are any typos or structurally related errors which I saw some and they are a letter/word structure errors ;



Looking at the above attachment, is a screenshot from the joker mixer website.
The first screenshot shows the word  "The right to personal privacy is precious." If you look very well you will notice that there is a break in the word personal which the letter starts from the second line and same thing with precious with a starting from the fourth line.

The second screenshot is showing the word "Why should I use JokerMix?" Looking at the sentence, you will also notice the the word joker is broken which is not surposed to be . The is a global platform and should be properly done with a touch of excellence and void of errors such as this.

Possible solution.
The centralised type setting format should be used for the typesetting or possibly reduce the size of the letters so they could be in a good position to reflect on the page very well. The joker should be allowed to be in one word together there are enough space there to accommodate each word so why breaking the words and letters. Such errors doesn't fit well for such global platform which could attract traffic in millions in the nearest future.

Further findings shows that the mixer website has no live customer care service but just help centre which is hidden for no reasons. The help centre is just a normal FAQ but it would be nice a live support or customer service is included and should be at the top or bottom for easy access by prospective clients who have issues or would want to make further inquiries about the mixer.

At the bottom page where we have email, telegram, mirror and onionv3 are just click copy function. I was thinking I would direct me to my telegram where I can be able to start conversations quickly. Those features should be able to perform the functions  it is meant for by directing every click to the right place rather than a copy paste function.

The language features should have more languages included as I see there because this is a global platform and should have such features for other non speaking English nationals to be able to access the website for their own usage.

Looking at the minimum amount or volume of coin to be mixed, I think it is too high. The team should look into it and make it minimal for all to use likewise the fee too. This platform would soon make waves and it would be nice the minimum mixing volume/amount should be the type that would grant the middle or least access to your services.

This is just the review I could make out of it till the full mixing function is restored. Once functional for mixing again I will update my review post to suit my findings after using the mixing service.

Another $15 reward, but this must be Royse special standards:

Bech32 Address: bc1qsyexcqgdgv530ekwxmcf7rsdzzr9uula7ca9c9

Based on the information another user shared in their review, I was able to find their deposit to JokerMix on the blockchain and analyze the effectiveness of their mixing. What I found is that JokerMix is not actually using their own algorithm but are instead just charging a fee to act as a middleman for wabisabi coinjoins. I wanted to get more confirmation for my hypothesis but when I tried to do a mix using my own funds the JokerMix website was not really functional. When I entered an address and did the math equation nothing happened when I pressed the “continue” button.

In its current state I would not advise anybody to use this mixer. The website is too buggy and there are some red flags. You can get the same level of privacy for lower fees by using any of the available trustless coinjoin methods and cutting out any intermediaries.

I did not include transaction hashes because the user whose deposit I analyzed might not want sensitive information exposed but I can share it privately or users can just use information from the screenshots in this thread to figure it out themselves.

$30 reward

Wallet Address: bc1q9zmj6ek7daym8ady239s25n6prr6gmts688zu7

Here is my review about Jokermix

To be honest, first and famous when I entered the link provided I thought it will be like download to sign in or sign up but unfortunately what I found actually make me speechless.

The background

The interface is very fantastic and also good looking, though I haven't use any of the mixers before due to financial status but am planning to make use of it one day, this is my first time of seeing how the mixer look like through the participation of this review which make me to know more about other mixers like Mixero, wasabi wallet etc, but unfortunately I found Jokermix interesting because it user friendly,

Mixing process

What will make me have interest in this mix is the "HELP CENTER" I was impressed with the frequently Asked Questions.

Deposit

The two cryptocurrency that is supported by the mixers which are Bitcoin and Dash are actually the most popular coins which have more recongnision, when I saw their minimum deposit it looks so huge to me because I can't afford it, this alone make me to research further to compare more mixers minimum deposit but to my surprise I found out that Jokermix have the less minimum deposit of bitcoin.

The maximum deposit is very small compared to few popular mixers, Jokermix have it to be 13 BTC per request while other have it to be 250 BTC. I will advise they work on this since they have minimum deposit lesser than the few mixers, I think increasing the maximum deposit will do good for Jokermix to attract more user.

Service fees

Few Questions from frequently asked questions, I need more explanation on this because I didn't get it correctly.

1Q Do fees affect the speed of the process?
Answer
No, fees do not affect the speed of the process.

Q2 I sent a transaction with very low fees, the transactions still not confirmed on the blockchain?.

Answer
your transaction confirmation takes longer due to low transaction feee, the session will remain active. Rest assured there is no need to worry, even if the transaction takse 2 days to be confirmed, the process will stort after the first confirmation. It is recommended to send a transaction with higher fees keep in mind that the session is only active for 6 days

The above question 1 and 2 are contradicting with each other to my understanding is it referring to the higher the services fees the higher the priority level, I need more explanation on this.

Services fee is very affordable compared to other mixers, at first appearance the fees look huge because it started from 2%-8% while the other the mixers started from 0.7-4% but I get it clear that Jokermix still have the lowest services fee, many will be deceive by the percentage written in other mixers, I don't see this as an issue because anyone that come across Jokermix will know is the best and with this alone they can attract more customers.

The rest process actually looks good from pasting the address, select the services fee, through the help of  fee calculator and continue passing the captcha, the captcha look good and simple to perform, then process of depositing will commence and finally, the important part will appear which is Letter of guarantee which includes session ID and PGP and also destroy my session, I couldn't be able to move to the next steps due to the lack of fund. I tested the session ID by closing the browser after saving my session ID and   PGP to know how it will work, but unfortunately it worked perfectly by taken me back to my session through restore session.

Suggestions

The first time this review was posted I noticed that it was only one translation which is French then later I discovered Russian was add, I will be happy if other translations will be add like Spanish, German, Italian and Chinese etc to make it compete with the rest in those destination. Secondly regarding the issue of maximum deposits so that is can attract bigger costumers.

Conclusions

I am very impressed with all what I found in the mixers but the heartbreaking I faced was I couldn't be able to test it due to lack of fund. Recommending it to my close ones will be a thing of joy because it's a user friendly.

Another $30 reward:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.msg1590400#msg1590400

$40 reward:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.msg1589503#msg1589503

$50 reward:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.msg1589590#msg1589590

$60 reward:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.msg1590774#msg1590774

$65reward:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.msg1592091#msg1592091

$70 reward:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.msg1591407#msg1591407

This is my unpaid reward:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.msg1590513#msg1590513


It is interesting to see that all lower paid members that received payments are promoting his services or they are in one of his signature campaigns.
This is probably an accident, but I have to learn his weird standards.

To be continued.

[notblox1]

Reserved

[notblox1]

Reserved II

[AB de Royse777]

I reserve the right to accept, deny a review and any reward.

Next time, I will suggest to read the information posted in a campaign.

Edit:

It is interesting to see that all lower paid members that received payments are promoting his services or they are in one of his signature campaigns.

I can clearly see NotATether, bitmover, PX-Z, examplens, FinneysTrueVision are either not promoting a service or promoting a service from another manager.
vs
NikeFit_7777, Mate2237, Chilwell, Cryptsafe are some who are promoting a campaign I manage.

This is 5 : 4, it is not all.
There are many campaigns I manage and it's obvious a lot of people are promoting projects that I manage. If you are trying to find an issue in this then it is your personal problem, I have no interest to continue with you.

The reason not to pay you was explained twice.
First

I appreciate the time you spent however there were nothing significant to pay for the post you made that's why you and some of other posts were not considered to be paid. I hope you understood the terms of this campaign.

Second

The reason not to pay you was very simple. It was not up the standard I expect in a review campaign.

Cheers,

Full topic quoted

I will dedicate this topic to member Royse777 or AB de, or whatever his forum profile name is now after he changed it many times.

He is trying to work as a manager in bitcointalk and altcoinstalks forum, and we know him from many incidents with mixers and casino websites.

This is a long history that needs time so I will update things slowly, but I can mention that he was involved with scams and he lost money of clients and forum members.
I will talk more about this in future when I collect all the information from bitcointalk.

Let me start with Jokermix review campaign that he started on July 15: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.0

This was his terms:

For a basic review which is somehow useful, you will receive $30 in BTC reward.
For an expert review which address important issues and suggest solutions, you will receive $60.
For an expert review which address important issues, suggest solutions, give resources with in-depth knowledge, you will receive $100

Many people applied, send coins for mixing and wrote review, but Royse pick and choose only selected people to receive payment:

Chilwell   $30.00   
NikeFit_7777   $40.00   
examplens   $50.00   
Mate2237   $30.00   
PX-Z   $50.00   
NotATether   $70.00   
FinneysTrueVision   $15.00   
bitmover   $65.00   
Cryptsafe   $15.00   

I was one of the people that review but didnt get paid, and I would be ok with that, but than I was curious to read all other reviews.
Some of them did great job but I wont judge myself and I will leave you to check this for yourself.

Lets start with lower rewards first.

$15 - he paid something that was not in the rules, minimum was $30!

BTC wallet address: bc1qk8vexml0zl55w0xn5hj3fvjm5w4vywdtvd5kl4

Review on JokerMix.to

The joker mixers website is quite a good and user friendly interface. The design is very much unique and different from the few ones I have used in the past which makes it more interesting and attractive  to use. I used google chrome to access the website.

I noticed that the mixer activities is under maintenance with caution not to put anything for the time being otherwise you face the risk of losing your coin. Since I could not try that function, I took my time to read through the website to see if there are any typos or structurally related errors which I saw some and they are a letter/word structure errors ;



Looking at the above attachment, is a screenshot from the joker mixer website.
The first screenshot shows the word  "The right to personal privacy is precious." If you look very well you will notice that there is a break in the word personal which the letter starts from the second line and same thing with precious with a starting from the fourth line.

The second screenshot is showing the word "Why should I use JokerMix?" Looking at the sentence, you will also notice the the word joker is broken which is not surposed to be . The is a global platform and should be properly done with a touch of excellence and void of errors such as this.

Possible solution.
The centralised type setting format should be used for the typesetting or possibly reduce the size of the letters so they could be in a good position to reflect on the page very well. The joker should be allowed to be in one word together there are enough space there to accommodate each word so why breaking the words and letters. Such errors doesn't fit well for such global platform which could attract traffic in millions in the nearest future.

Further findings shows that the mixer website has no live customer care service but just help centre which is hidden for no reasons. The help centre is just a normal FAQ but it would be nice a live support or customer service is included and should be at the top or bottom for easy access by prospective clients who have issues or would want to make further inquiries about the mixer.

At the bottom page where we have email, telegram, mirror and onionv3 are just click copy function. I was thinking I would direct me to my telegram where I can be able to start conversations quickly. Those features should be able to perform the functions  it is meant for by directing every click to the right place rather than a copy paste function.

The language features should have more languages included as I see there because this is a global platform and should have such features for other non speaking English nationals to be able to access the website for their own usage.

Looking at the minimum amount or volume of coin to be mixed, I think it is too high. The team should look into it and make it minimal for all to use likewise the fee too. This platform would soon make waves and it would be nice the minimum mixing volume/amount should be the type that would grant the middle or least access to your services.

This is just the review I could make out of it till the full mixing function is restored. Once functional for mixing again I will update my review post to suit my findings after using the mixing service.

Another $15 reward, but this must be Royse special standards:

Bech32 Address: bc1qsyexcqgdgv530ekwxmcf7rsdzzr9uula7ca9c9

Based on the information another user shared in their review, I was able to find their deposit to JokerMix on the blockchain and analyze the effectiveness of their mixing. What I found is that JokerMix is not actually using their own algorithm but are instead just charging a fee to act as a middleman for wabisabi coinjoins. I wanted to get more confirmation for my hypothesis but when I tried to do a mix using my own funds the JokerMix website was not really functional. When I entered an address and did the math equation nothing happened when I pressed the “continue” button.

In its current state I would not advise anybody to use this mixer. The website is too buggy and there are some red flags. You can get the same level of privacy for lower fees by using any of the available trustless coinjoin methods and cutting out any intermediaries.

I did not include transaction hashes because the user whose deposit I analyzed might not want sensitive information exposed but I can share it privately or users can just use information from the screenshots in this thread to figure it out themselves.

$30 reward

Wallet Address: bc1q9zmj6ek7daym8ady239s25n6prr6gmts688zu7

Here is my review about Jokermix

To be honest, first and famous when I entered the link provided I thought it will be like download to sign in or sign up but unfortunately what I found actually make me speechless.

The background

The interface is very fantastic and also good looking, though I haven't use any of the mixers before due to financial status but am planning to make use of it one day, this is my first time of seeing how the mixer look like through the participation of this review which make me to know more about other mixers like Mixero, wasabi wallet etc, but unfortunately I found Jokermix interesting because it user friendly,

Mixing process

What will make me have interest in this mix is the "HELP CENTER" I was impressed with the frequently Asked Questions.

Deposit

The two cryptocurrency that is supported by the mixers which are Bitcoin and Dash are actually the most popular coins which have more recongnision, when I saw their minimum deposit it looks so huge to me because I can't afford it, this alone make me to research further to compare more mixers minimum deposit but to my surprise I found out that Jokermix have the less minimum deposit of bitcoin.

The maximum deposit is very small compared to few popular mixers, Jokermix have it to be 13 BTC per request while other have it to be 250 BTC. I will advise they work on this since they have minimum deposit lesser than the few mixers, I think increasing the maximum deposit will do good for Jokermix to attract more user.

Service fees

Few Questions from frequently asked questions, I need more explanation on this because I didn't get it correctly.

1Q Do fees affect the speed of the process?
Answer
No, fees do not affect the speed of the process.

Q2 I sent a transaction with very low fees, the transactions still not confirmed on the blockchain?.

Answer
your transaction confirmation takes longer due to low transaction feee, the session will remain active. Rest assured there is no need to worry, even if the transaction takse 2 days to be confirmed, the process will stort after the first confirmation. It is recommended to send a transaction with higher fees keep in mind that the session is only active for 6 days

The above question 1 and 2 are contradicting with each other to my understanding is it referring to the higher the services fees the higher the priority level, I need more explanation on this.

Services fee is very affordable compared to other mixers, at first appearance the fees look huge because it started from 2%-8% while the other the mixers started from 0.7-4% but I get it clear that Jokermix still have the lowest services fee, many will be deceive by the percentage written in other mixers, I don't see this as an issue because anyone that come across Jokermix will know is the best and with this alone they can attract more customers.

The rest process actually looks good from pasting the address, select the services fee, through the help of  fee calculator and continue passing the captcha, the captcha look good and simple to perform, then process of depositing will commence and finally, the important part will appear which is Letter of guarantee which includes session ID and PGP and also destroy my session, I couldn't be able to move to the next steps due to the lack of fund. I tested the session ID by closing the browser after saving my session ID and   PGP to know how it will work, but unfortunately it worked perfectly by taken me back to my session through restore session.

Suggestions

The first time this review was posted I noticed that it was only one translation which is French then later I discovered Russian was add, I will be happy if other translations will be add like Spanish, German, Italian and Chinese etc to make it compete with the rest in those destination. Secondly regarding the issue of maximum deposits so that is can attract bigger costumers.

Conclusions

I am very impressed with all what I found in the mixers but the heartbreaking I faced was I couldn't be able to test it due to lack of fund. Recommending it to my close ones will be a thing of joy because it's a user friendly.

Another $30 reward:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.msg1590400#msg1590400

$40 reward:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.msg1589503#msg1589503

$50 reward:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.msg1589590#msg1589590

$60 reward:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.msg1590774#msg1590774

$65reward:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.msg1592091#msg1592091

$70 reward:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.msg1591407#msg1591407

This is my unpaid reward:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=322792.msg1590513#msg1590513


It is interesting to see that all lower paid members that received payments are promoting his services or they are in one of his signature campaigns.
This is probably an accident, but I have to learn his weird standards.

To be continued.

[notblox1]

The reason not to pay you was explained twice.

I dont care about your explanations, and this topic was not created for you.
I am just getting started.

[Mate2237]

The reason not to pay you was explained twice.

I dont care about your explanations, and this topic was not created for you.
I am just getting started.

Are you not interested on the explanation? Then what do you want? then there is something behind that you have to also explain to the public so that we can settle the malicious fight and let peace be reign. Can you tell the forum what you really needed? As it is we can give judgement and it might not favor you because what you have presented is abstract and not concrete.

[hugeblack]

That's why I told you^[1] to call it a bug reward rather than a review campaign.


In the case of a review campaign, you trust the person who did the review campaign, so even if the review was bad or showed the mixer in a bad way or did not agree with him, you are forced to pay him, but in the case of a bug reward, the payment will only be made if he discovered something new or was useful for the service.


In general, as a solution, I suggest to @notblox1 and @Royse777 to accept what @Jokermix will say, whether they want to pay to @notblox1 or not, what do you think?



[1]

I think this is closer to security bounties or bug reward than a review campaign. For example, BTT has: [/size]

The bounty amount varies depending on what the vulnerability allows you to do: $50 000: If you can access any user's PMs arbitrarily, without any interaction from the user, and without any secret data such as user passwords. $1 000: If you can move or delete a post that you are not supposed to be able to.

[bitmover]

I think that getting paid to post or to review a service is a privilege, not a right.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I think that getting paid to post or to review a service is a privilege, not a right.

+1

In general, as a solution

I don't think notblox1 wants a solution or there is even a solution. When a host deny, you can not do anything. They have their terms. I remember once my post was even deleted in a free raffle because the host does stand against me.

I am just getting started.

Who is buying me popcorn 🤪

[dragononcrypto]

In general, as a solution, I suggest to @notblox1 and @Royse777 to accept what @Jokermix will say, whether they want to pay to @notblox1 or not, what do you think?

Alternatively there is the Forum Court to have Judge(s) rule on such a dispute, who would be more impartial than @Jokermix I believe: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=154.0

@notblox1 let me if you want this topic moved there, or you can open a new topic in the court, assuming @Royse777 would agree to a judges verdict that is.

[notblox1]

In general, as a solution, I suggest to @notblox1 and @Royse777 to accept what @Jokermix will say, whether they want to pay to @notblox1 or not, what do you think?

I am not accepting any reward for review and I am not asking anything from royse, let him buy some food for his family with that money.
This review campaign was months ago and I would not write anything now but I saw jokermix want to start another one.
It is time for someone to expose how royse is doing his dirty business.

Alternatively there is the Forum Court to have Judge(s) rule on such a dispute, who would be more impartial than @Jokermix I believe: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=154.0

@notblox1 let me if you want this topic moved there, or you can open a new topic in the court, assuming @Royse777 would agree to a judges verdict that is.

No, leave it in Reputation.
Anyone can read and compare all reviews and weird standards of his.
I am just getting started with exposing royse.

[AB de Royse777]

Alternatively there is the Forum Court to have Judge(s) rule on such a dispute, who would be more impartial than @Jokermix I believe: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=154.0

What type of dispute?
I denied to pay a users because I did not think it meet my standard. You are telling me the forum will decide how to run my business, who to get payment, who to pay etc?

Did you even read the rules of my campaign where it says I reserve the right to pay? It seems you did not.

[dragononcrypto]

Alternatively there is the Forum Court to have Judge(s) rule on such a dispute, who would be more impartial than @Jokermix I believe: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=154.0

What type of dispute?
I denied to pay a users because I did not think it meet my standard. You are telling me the forum will decide how to run my business, who to get payment, who to pay etc?

No, I'm not tell you that. I'm saying that if you agreed to have judges decide this, then this could be an alternative option. Obviously given there would be no obligation for you to accept a verdict from the court, as it's not their usual jurisdiction, then it'd be pointless a case going there unless you'd agree to a judges verdict.

Did you even read the rules of my campaign where it says I reserve the right to pay? It seems you did not.

I'm well aware of your campaign rules and I have little doubt that the court would side with you over this dispute. There are just options here, that's all.

[AB de Royse777]

Alternatively there is the Forum Court to have Judge(s) rule on such a dispute, who would be more impartial than @Jokermix I believe: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=154.0

What type of dispute?
I denied to pay a users because I did not think it meet my standard. You are telling me the forum will decide how to run my business, who to get payment, who to pay etc?

No, I'm not tell you that. I'm saying that if you agreed to have judges decide this, then this could be an alternative option. Obviously given there would be no obligation for you to accept a verdict from the court, as it's not their usual jurisdiction, then it'd be pointless a case going there unless you'd agree to a judges verdict.

Did you even read the rules of my campaign where it says I reserve the right to pay? It seems you did not.

I'm well aware of your campaign rules and I have little doubt that the court would side with you over this dispute. There are just options here, that's all.

I would have no obligation to show up your court if I break any forum related rules that can disrespect forum ethics but if you are inviting me to show up in your court to lesson me how to conduct my business then you have no business with me. This is not your business, not your courts business. This a business between me, my clients and the people who I work with.

[notblox1]

No, I'm not tell you that. I'm saying that if you agreed to have judges decide this, then this could be an alternative option. Obviously given there would be no obligation for you to accept a verdict from the court, as it's not their usual jurisdiction, then it'd be pointless a case going there unless you'd agree to a judges verdict.

In second thought it would be interesting to see someone neutral judges all reviews posted, so we can finally identify royse weird standards.
I want to see all reviews rated by neutral judges please.
Thank you.

Everyone can see how arrogant this guy is, other managers know very well his dirty business.