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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #60 on: January 14, 2025, 12:29:43 PM »

There is an altcoinstalk telegram channel where users here in the forum was also there. I think it's easier to reply there than in the forum. So if a users telegram account doesn't answer, then we can conclude something happened to that user.

We can't say anything else but something happen.
So is a family member able to claim the account?  Only the Admin can decide.

Not all forum users are in the Telegram group, I am not in that group, for example, so it doesn't seem like a valid solution.

For any member of the family unit to claim the account, KYC would have to be performed on users who might be interested, and that is something that is not going to happen, as I already said.

I think this is 100% impossible as it would involve identity checks and having to do KYC for willing users, which could cause problems for the admin (and the forum) by having to store sensitive information like that.

A possible way to do something similar, which could also be effective, would be to sign a message in the forum, something that everyone should do to secure their account a little more.

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #60 on: January 14, 2025, 12:29:43 PM »

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #61 on: January 15, 2025, 03:58:56 AM »
We can't say anything else but something happen.
So is a family member able to claim the account?  Only the Admin can decide.
Itu tetap sulit, bahkan aset digital semacam akun forum altcoinstalks pun, belum saya masukkan dalam daftar warisan saya... dari seluruh anggota keluarga saya, yang mengerti untuk menggunakan akun forum ini hanya saya sendiri, jadi ini saya adalah pengguna pertama sekaligus pengguna terakhir terhadap akun saya (jika tidak diretas)...

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This is more rational, because it protects privacy so that we do not need to do KYC such as sending our personal documents to other people.

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #62 on: January 18, 2025, 12:29:34 AM »

There is an altcoinstalk telegram channel where users here in the forum was also there. I think it's easier to reply there than in the forum. So if a users telegram account doesn't answer, then we can conclude something happened to that user.

We can't say anything else but something happen.
So is a family member able to claim the account?  Only the Admin can decide.
Is such a telegram channel official? If yes, where is the link...

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #63 on: January 19, 2025, 11:53:20 AM »
Is such a telegram channel official? If yes, where is the link...

Yes, it is an official channel. You can find it in the forum index along with other links to the forum's official social networks as well.



These are the two Telegram groups available:

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #64 on: January 31, 2025, 10:17:05 PM »

- he is in the middle of a contest that looks like a candidate to be the winner and needs confirmation of attendance.
- he is doing escrow transactions with other members.
- he has debts to fellow altcoinstalks members.
- and there are still many other tasks that he has not done with his relations here.

For most users here, there ain't a link to their real life except with close friends or relations who are also in the forum.
If the user don't have any close relative who is also in the forum, that simply means all you stated above will be forgotten totally.

Besides, there are users that forgets about their account for a long time and later comes back online to start making use of the account.
I don't think any user is able to reach out to them...

And besides, most users prefers anonymity.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #65 on: January 31, 2025, 11:17:17 PM »
If the user don't have any close relative who is also in the forum, that simply means all you stated above will be forgotten totally.
That's the case of everyone who doesn't have any close friends here, once passed away, everything will be forgotten, no one will know you're dead until someone noticed you become afk for a while, and just like that no one knows here what actually had happened people will just assume you don't like to be here anymore.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #66 on: February 01, 2025, 05:05:42 PM »
If the user don't have any close relative who is also in the forum, that simply means all you stated above will be forgotten totally.
That's the case of everyone who doesn't have any close friends here, once passed away, everything will be forgotten, no one will know you're dead until someone noticed you become afk for a while, and just like that no one knows here what actually had happened people will just assume you don't like to be here anymore.

I guess we need to start to be talking to each other in the telegram just knowing who. But there is a local forum where you fellow country men are also there. There is a reason to be friend with each other however the most recommended by the users in crypto is to become anonymous as well. You'd be in the middle of a predicament with this clause.

Is it possible to just hand over the account to someone else or like your son?

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #66 on: February 01, 2025, 05:05:42 PM »


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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #67 on: February 01, 2025, 09:56:12 PM »
Is it possible to just hand over the account to someone else or like your son?
I have a daughter but shes just a toddler so passing this account is near impossible with the age and learning she have right now. So whatever happen to me in the future for not be able to be active here will be the end for this account too 😅
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #68 on: February 01, 2025, 10:26:32 PM »
Is it possible to just hand over the account to someone else or like your son?
This is possible and nobody would know about that, but I would prefer keeping accounts personal and private.
There are some stuff you can give to your children and family members, like Bitcoin, money, house and car, but not email and forum accounts.
Problem would be bigger if I was the owner and creator of forum.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #69 on: February 02, 2025, 12:04:32 PM »
Looking at it from another perspective, I guess it's not unreasonable to say that when our life ends, it must also end in the forum, since (theoretically) we are what we express, and after that our expression will also end.

I wouldn't worry about the admin, the AI ​​has backups of his brain and can interpret it indefinitely... Jokes aside, we are owners of our privacy, let each person choose their own way of acting.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #70 on: February 02, 2025, 01:02:09 PM »
Is it possible to just hand over the account to someone else or like your son?
This is possible and nobody would know about that, but I would prefer keeping accounts personal and private.
There are some stuff you can give to your children and family members, like Bitcoin, money, house and car, but not email and forum accounts.
Problem would be bigger if I was the owner and creator of forum.

People in the forum would know whether the account is bought and sold as most of the people are noticing what others are writing. So if the account reacts like a newbie, some users are quick to say account was sold but then they are often right though.

I guess if you have to give the account to your kid you just have to orient him to never a newbie in the forum.

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #71 on: February 05, 2025, 08:21:15 PM »
People in the forum would know whether the account is bought and sold as most of the people are noticing what others are writing. So if the account reacts like a newbie, some users are quick to say account was sold but then they are often right though.
This is the case only for old members, but with modern development of AI, someone could in theory generate posts based on old account history.
That would make it look like the owner is the same, and I doubt anyone would notice this for most members, except few that have very specific writing style that can't be copies and cloned easily.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #72 on: February 06, 2025, 06:07:47 PM »
People in the forum would know whether the account is bought and sold as most of the people are noticing what others are writing. So if the account reacts like a newbie, some users are quick to say account was sold but then they are often right though.
This is the case only for old members, but with modern development of AI, someone could in theory generate posts based on old account history.
That would make it look like the owner is the same, and I doubt anyone would notice this for most members, except few that have very specific writing style that can't be copies and cloned easily.

Why inherited an account if they want to use AI to post? It doesn't make sense, and the inherited stories hasn't helped anyone. I remember a woman who inherited her dad's BTT account and was told to close it and create a new one.

People nowadays do not believe Internet stories, even if they are supported by evidence.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #73 on: February 06, 2025, 09:14:13 PM »
People in the forum would know whether the account is bought and sold as most of the people are noticing what others are writing. So if the account reacts like a newbie, some users are quick to say account was sold but then they are often right though.
This is the case only for old members, but with modern development of AI, someone could in theory generate posts based on old account history.
That would make it look like the owner is the same, and I doubt anyone would notice this for most members, except few that have very specific writing style that can't be copies and cloned easily.
But it also takes a lot of time to learn how a person's posting habits and thoughts are on this forum.
Even though it uses the help of AI, literally the narrative and writing style cannot be fully imitated.
After all, AI is also prohibited from creating a paid post and using AI to comment is also not ethical enough without good knowledge from its users.

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #74 on: February 06, 2025, 10:58:53 PM »
But it also takes a lot of time to learn how a person's posting habits and thoughts are on this forum.
Even though it uses the help of AI, literally the narrative and writing style cannot be fully imitated.
After all, AI is also prohibited from creating a paid post and using AI to comment is also not ethical enough without good knowledge from its users.
We are in 2025 not in 1925.
It doesn't take time to ''learn'' at all, you just feed it the links with previous posts and it's done.
Don't tell me you think that AI is actually learning anything you ask it to answer... it just copies it and changes it to fit the narrative and your question.
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