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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2024, 01:02:20 PM »
What you should know that whatever experience you gain at the cost of playing any game is skills and from what you have gained or experienced you can also practice the same while gambling next time, but the winning probability as we know solely rely on luck and chance, just as you have made mention of dice because you can't tell which side of dice to play so, while playing you gain lot of experience to make it a skill for the player.
When a game's winning probability depends entirely on luck, that game's experience or skill is worthless. And that's why I said that casino games like dice, pinklo or aviator etc don't need any skill to play them, maybe you can see different content makers on youtube making videos in different ways that you can win if you play these tricks but to me all of them seem fake. There may be a reason behind this and that is the paid promotion of gambling sites.
Something that depends on luck is something that I feel cannot be associated with skill, I mean no matter how skilled we are, if we are not lucky, it will not bring any victory at all.

How many possible numbers will come out in a dice game for example? Yes, the possible numbers that come out are very many, therefore our percentage of winning is very small because it depends heavily on luck.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2024, 10:13:26 PM »
What you should know that whatever experience you gain at the cost of playing any game is skills and from what you have gained or experienced you can also practice the same while gambling next time, but the winning probability as we know solely rely on luck and chance, just as you have made mention of dice because you can't tell which side of dice to play so, while playing you gain lot of experience to make it a skill for the player.
When a game's winning probability depends entirely on luck, that game's experience or skill is worthless. And that's why I said that casino games like dice, pinklo or aviator etc don't need any skill to play them, maybe you can see different content makers on youtube making videos in different ways that you can win if you play these tricks but to me all of them seem fake. There may be a reason behind this and that is the paid promotion of gambling sites.
Something that depends on luck is something that I feel cannot be associated with skill, I mean no matter how skilled we are, if we are not lucky, it will not bring any victory at all.

How many possible numbers will come out in a dice game for example? Yes, the possible numbers that come out are very many, therefore our percentage of winning is very small because it depends heavily on luck.
Well I will say that is your own view but from my experience so far involvement on things and from what I have witnessed skills and luck mostly work together, at first you need to consider skills then before you talk about luck. For example there are many office that employs people through their skills, and not luck, luck comes when you might have known what you are doing. I will sight another example of someone who just started sports betting and he went ahead picking random matches and random options what is the probability of him winning the match is zero, so if he implore his skills there is every chances that winning is possible even though it's still under probability.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2024, 10:36:23 PM »
Something that depends on luck is something that I feel cannot be associated with skill, I mean no matter how skilled we are, if we are not lucky, it will not bring any victory at all.
However, I think sport betting doesn't solely depend on the luck, it is also about analyzing skills. For example in football match, we must analyze the teams, especially about their stats. This is also called by skills, it is related to knowledge as well. If we have no ability to analyze it, it is a bit difficult to bet on the right team. So, it is not fully relying on the luck, right?


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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2024, 10:36:46 PM »
Something that depends on luck is something that I feel cannot be associated with skill, I mean no matter how skilled we are, if we are not lucky, it will not bring any victory at all.

How many possible numbers will come out in a dice game for example? Yes, the possible numbers that come out are very many, therefore our percentage of winning is very small because it depends heavily on luck.
Dice and the others slots games all of them result are depending on divine power. And when something depends on divine power then it is natural that no skill will be useful and that is why it is called gambling which depends entirely on luck.
Sometimes based on analysis skill, many people can increase their bet in case of the sports betting, ultimately everything depends on divine power.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2024, 11:38:16 PM »
However, I think sport betting doesn't solely depend on the luck, it is also about analyzing skills. For example in football match, we must analyze the teams, especially about their stats. This is also called by skills, it is related to knowledge as well. If we have no ability to analyze it, it is a bit difficult to bet on the right team. So, it is not fully relying on the luck, right?
Sports betting does have to have the skills to analyze a match and the depth of the squad is also to increase your chances of winning, but luck is also still there in betting so it will not be purely skills, I would say the luck factor is also still influential on any bet.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2024, 11:40:00 PM »
Dice and the others slots games all of them result are depending on divine power. And when something depends on divine power then it is natural that no skill will be useful and that is why it is called gambling which depends entirely on luck.
Sometimes based on analysis skill, many people can increase their bet in case of the sports betting, ultimately everything depends on divine power.
Divine power?  :D
Slot and Dice are luck-based games, surely these games rely on the luck. There is no way to increase the chance of winning these games because it really depends on the luck. Meanwhile betting, it needs some analysis, it sometimes also requires a little research. Although betting is a part of luck-based games, but I think betting also requires knowledge.


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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2024, 02:04:20 AM »
However, I think sport betting doesn't solely depend on the luck, it is also about analyzing skills. For example in football match, we must analyze the teams, especially about their stats. This is also called by skills, it is related to knowledge as well. If we have no ability to analyze it, it is a bit difficult to bet on the right team. So, it is not fully relying on the luck, right?
Sports betting does have to have the skills to analyze a match and the depth of the squad is also to increase your chances of winning, but luck is also still there in betting so it will not be purely skills, I would say the luck factor is also still influential on any bet.
Yeah, sports betting is a combination of luck and some kind of skill which is acquired from experience and research of the teams involved. You would not win often if at all you will win, if you continue to bet in sports without knowing about the teams involved. You need to understand;
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  • Teams head to head

And more before you could make informed bet. Depending only on luck could fail honestly.
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Re: is betting skills or luck?
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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2024, 08:34:05 AM »
Dice and the others slots games all of them result are depending on divine power. And when something depends on divine power then it is natural that no skill will be useful and that is why it is called gambling which depends entirely on luck.
Sometimes based on analysis skill, many people can increase their bet in case of the sports betting, ultimately everything depends on divine power.
Divine power?  :D
Slot and Dice are luck-based games, surely these games rely on the luck. There is no way to increase the chance of winning these games because it really depends on the luck. Meanwhile betting, it needs some analysis, it sometimes also requires a little research. Although betting is a part of luck-based games, but I think betting also requires knowledge.
Calling it divine power there seems to be some power involved but when we talk about relying only on luck it is neutral where there is no scope for any kind of strategy or skill. Since the results in such games are random, so there will not be any change in the results after gambling for long time and no one can never create a chance in such type of games.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2024, 10:46:30 AM »
Dice and the others slots games all of them result are depending on divine power. And when something depends on divine power then it is natural that no skill will be useful and that is why it is called gambling which depends entirely on luck.
Sometimes based on analysis skill, many people can increase their bet in case of the sports betting, ultimately everything depends on divine power.
Divine power?  :D
Slot and Dice are luck-based games, surely these games rely on the luck. There is no way to increase the chance of winning these games because it really depends on the luck. Meanwhile betting, it needs some analysis, it sometimes also requires a little research. Although betting is a part of luck-based games, but I think betting also requires knowledge.
Calling it divine power there seems to be some power involved but when we talk about relying only on luck it is neutral where there is no scope for any kind of strategy or skill. Since the results in such games are random, so there will not be any change in the results after gambling for long time and no one can never create a chance in such type of games.

Right, there is no divine intervention in gambling, although others believed that there is a gambling God that we can call anytime, but it's not the case. It really boils down how lucky we are in gambling.

Sometimes when you start it will just go and roll and you can't stop your winning. But if bad luck struck you, no matter what, you will lose a lot of money that's why you don't want to forced yourself when you have a string of bad luck.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2024, 01:59:20 PM »
Something that depends on luck is something that I feel cannot be associated with skill, I mean no matter how skilled we are, if we are not lucky, it will not bring any victory at all.

How many possible numbers will come out in a dice game for example? Yes, the possible numbers that come out are very many, therefore our percentage of winning is very small because it depends heavily on luck.
Well I will say that is your own view but from my experience so far involvement on things and from what I have witnessed skills and luck mostly work together, at first you need to consider skills then before you talk about luck. For example there are many office that employs people through their skills, and not luck, luck comes when you might have known what you are doing. I will sight another example of someone who just started sports betting and he went ahead picking random matches and random options what is the probability of him winning the match is zero, so if he implore his skills there is every chances that winning is possible even though it's still under probability.
I think we are talking about gambling here, and it is very different when we work in the real world, like the office you mentioned. Of course skills are very important in a job.

In gambling everything is different, in sports betting for example. It may be true that we have to be able to analyze a match, both teams that will compete and so on, but in the end the result is still related to luck. But it comes back to our respective views, I agree with that.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2024, 11:06:37 PM »
I think we are talking about gambling here, and it is very different when we work in the real world, like the office you mentioned. Of course skills are very important in a job.

In gambling everything is different, in sports betting for example. It may be true that we have to be able to analyze a match, both teams that will compete and so on, but in the end the result is still related to luck. But it comes back to our respective views, I agree with that.
I would agree with you and also say that if you look at it the way he says, everything in the world depends on luck. Like today I left office to go home or left home to go to office but it also depends on luck, because it may happen that I go in the middle of the road and go in the opposite direction of my destination without any serious reason not to mention the accident. But comparing these things with gambling is absurd because we all know that gambling is a game and real life is fact.
 

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2024, 04:27:37 PM »
I think we are talking about gambling here, and it is very different when we work in the real world, like the office you mentioned. Of course skills are very important in a job.

In gambling everything is different, in sports betting for example. It may be true that we have to be able to analyze a match, both teams that will compete and so on, but in the end the result is still related to luck. But it comes back to our respective views, I agree with that.
I would agree with you and also say that if you look at it the way he says, everything in the world depends on luck. Like today I left office to go home or left home to go to office but it also depends on luck, because it may happen that I go in the middle of the road and go in the opposite direction of my destination without any serious reason not to mention the accident. But comparing these things with gambling is absurd because we all know that gambling is a game and real life is fact.
Yeah mostly in casinos it takes more luck than skill because even with a strategy it doesn't mean that you will win because the outcome often relies on luck. but it still need skills because you don't just bet you predict to have a better decision when betting. so yeah it takes skill but mostly it is luck

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2024, 10:47:40 PM »
As it was said before and again here. Casino games are not skill games and it is purely lucky games while the sport betting games are skills and technic games. And why skills is important is because it is the gambler has to know if the game will be favourable or not. Check their previous matches and the players in the team. But in casinos you have have to do with all that and once you deposit. Straight staking.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2024, 02:22:22 AM »
What you should know that whatever experience you gain at the cost of playing any game is skills and from what you have gained or experienced you can also practice the same while gambling next time, but the winning probability as we know solely rely on luck and chance, just as you have made mention of dice because you can't tell which side of dice to play so, while playing you gain lot of experience to make it a skill for the player.
When a game's winning probability depends entirely on luck, that game's experience or skill is worthless. And that's why I said that casino games like dice, pinklo or aviator etc don't need any skill to play them, maybe you can see different content makers on youtube making videos in different ways that you can win if you play these tricks but to me all of them seem fake. There may be a reason behind this and that is the paid promotion of gambling sites.
Something that depends on luck is something that I feel cannot be associated with skill, I mean no matter how skilled we are, if we are not lucky, it will not bring any victory at all.

How many possible numbers will come out in a dice game for example? Yes, the possible numbers that come out are very many, therefore our percentage of winning is very small because it depends heavily on luck.
Yes, if we grow more confident in some games have no effect other than luck. As much skill as we gain in games like dice or roulette, there is no chance of winning in those games without luck. I can say  there are some changes in sports betting. If there is a good skill there is a chance of winning but still it is uncertain. That is why we give the highest priority on luck in gambling.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2024, 01:42:58 PM »
Something that depends on luck is something that I feel cannot be associated with skill, I mean no matter how skilled we are, if we are not lucky, it will not bring any victory at all.

How many possible numbers will come out in a dice game for example? Yes, the possible numbers that come out are very many, therefore our percentage of winning is very small because it depends heavily on luck.

The fact that something is based on luck does not negate the importance of skill. I believe that most of the time, skill attracts luck. Luck, in my opinion, is the reward for effort. A gambler does not make rash decisions and hope to be lucky.

Even though there have been cases where a gambler has recorded success after making what appears to be a bad decision at first and still winning, the truth is that such events occur only 1% of the time, so gamblers should not believe that everything about gambling is based on luck and then fail to make efforts where they should.

I have seen gamblers try to study casino algorithms, and while they do not always win, they have had more success than those who do not pay attention to such things.
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