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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #90 on: November 16, 2024, 06:19:03 PM »
10% skill then it can be said that there is little chance that we will win.
90% skill then the chance of losing is greater because it is random.

But this is what gambling is like, nothing is purely due to skill even if you are good at sports betting that relies on statistical analysis of the club, but in any match there is always something unexpected so this falls into the category of luck.

I agree that all you have to do to win is hope for luck, but you can not ignore the importance of skill in gambling. There are ways to be compensated for your gambling skills. Even if you do not win outright, you can continue to improve your skills, and luck will strike when you least expect it. I believe that in order to attract luck, a gambler must be skilled.

Luck does not just happen; it comes to a gambler who has demonstrated some level of skill. I will not deny that some luck requires no effort or skill because it simply happens, but it is common to see a gambler who exerts some level of skill win more than a gambler who lacks skill.
It's not that I'm ignoring skill but it's a fact that it's ultimately the luck of the draw that determines whether you win or lose.

And indeed some regular gamblers will not play without skills, they must have a little skill how to increase their chances, I don't know about other games but let's say I'm talking about sports then obviously skills are needed, sometimes I myself rely on skills to win in football betting.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #91 on: November 16, 2024, 11:08:22 PM »
10% skill then it can be said that there is little chance that we will win.
90% skill then the chance of losing is greater because it is random.

But this is what gambling is like, nothing is purely due to skill even if you are good at sports betting that relies on statistical analysis of the club, but in any match there is always something unexpected so this falls into the category of luck.

I agree that all you have to do to win is hope for luck, but you can not ignore the importance of skill in gambling. There are ways to be compensated for your gambling skills. Even if you do not win outright, you can continue to improve your skills, and luck will strike when you least expect it. I believe that in order to attract luck, a gambler must be skilled.

Luck does not just happen; it comes to a gambler who has demonstrated some level of skill. I will not deny that some luck requires no effort or skill because it simply happens, but it is common to see a gambler who exerts some level of skill win more than a gambler who lacks skill.
It's not that I'm ignoring skill but it's a fact that it's ultimately the luck of the draw that determines whether you win or lose.

And indeed some regular gamblers will not play without skills, they must have a little skill how to increase their chances, I don't know about other games but let's say I'm talking about sports then obviously skills are needed, sometimes I myself rely on skills to win in football betting.
Skill is as important as experience in fact experience is skill and anyone who does have experience can not be sure or nearly to achieve winning because we know that when skills is involved it makes it easier for us even though we have to depend on luck to secure winning. There are lot of games today that depends on skills but most gamblers today see it all to be luck and yes I didn't doubt because chance or luck is something we also need to propelled the winning coming so sooner to the gambler.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #92 on: November 17, 2024, 11:43:35 AM »
10% skill then it can be said that there is little chance that we will win.
90% skill then the chance of losing is greater because it is random.

But this is what gambling is like, nothing is purely due to skill even if you are good at sports betting that relies on statistical analysis of the club, but in any match there is always something unexpected so this falls into the category of luck.

I agree that all you have to do to win is hope for luck, but you can not ignore the importance of skill in gambling. There are ways to be compensated for your gambling skills. Even if you do not win outright, you can continue to improve your skills, and luck will strike when you least expect it. I believe that in order to attract luck, a gambler must be skilled.

Luck does not just happen; it comes to a gambler who has demonstrated some level of skill. I will not deny that some luck requires no effort or skill because it simply happens, but it is common to see a gambler who exerts some level of skill win more than a gambler who lacks skill.
It's not that I'm ignoring skill but it's a fact that it's ultimately the luck of the draw that determines whether you win or lose.

And indeed some regular gamblers will not play without skills, they must have a little skill how to increase their chances, I don't know about other games but let's say I'm talking about sports then obviously skills are needed, sometimes I myself rely on skills to win in football betting.
While casino gambling is entirely about luck, there is a slight difference in sports betting. In sports betting, having knowledge of various aspects related to sports can be a strategy to stay ahead to win. Although this strategy is not very effective because luck is also involved. If that were the case then those with more knowledge than sports betting would be ahead to win. I definitely agree with you that sports betting requires skill. But luck must be accepted with skill. In recent times, the worst have won against strong teams in sports betting which is not expected but happen. Therefore the gambler has to bet on a combination of both skill and luck.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #93 on: November 17, 2024, 12:00:32 PM »
While casino gambling is entirely about luck, there is a slight difference in sports betting. In sports betting, having knowledge of various aspects related to sports can be a strategy to stay ahead to win. Although this strategy is not very effective because luck is also involved. If that were the case then those with more knowledge than sports betting would be ahead to win. I definitely agree with you that sports betting requires skill. But luck must be accepted with skill. In recent times, the worst have won against strong teams in sports betting which is not expected but happen. Therefore the gambler has to bet on a combination of both skill and luck.

Well, to a reasonable extent with proper analysis a gambler can win in sports betting. Analysis is one thing and getting a free flow match is another. It is not that analysis does not pay off; it does, but there are many factors that can interfere with a match, causing the outcome to differ from the analysis.

I do not believe there is any type of knowledge required in a casino game. I believe that casinos rely solely on guesswork and luck because they are never affected by unforeseen circumstances because everything is programmed to run in a specific manner that is extremely difficult to predict. 

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #94 on: November 17, 2024, 12:29:53 PM »
Well, to a reasonable extent with proper analysis a gambler can win in sports betting. Analysis is one thing and getting a free flow match is another. It is not that analysis does not pay off; it does, but there are many factors that can interfere with a match, causing the outcome to differ from the analysis.

I do not believe there is any type of knowledge required in a casino game. I believe that casinos rely solely on guesswork and luck because they are never affected by unforeseen circumstances because everything is programmed to run in a specific manner that is extremely difficult to predict.
It is our way of seeing the bigger opportunities that we can take from a match, but it does not guarantee that we will win, because the reality that happens during the match is something that we cannot predict with certainty.

Especially if it is a casino-based game, we all know that the game is almost entirely dependent on luck which means there is no strategy that can work well to make us win.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #95 on: November 17, 2024, 12:55:27 PM »
Especially if it is a casino-based game, we all know that the game is almost entirely dependent on luck which means there is no strategy that can work well to make us win.

I jokingly tell gamblers that if you want to make money, try sports betting, and if you want to have fun, try casinos, because casinos are designed solely for entertainment, not profit. Gamblers who want to make money from sports betting should consider the following factors before betting: the importance of the match to the stronger team, home advantage, position in the table and the gap they will create if they lose, and the availability of key players. After considering these factors, such a gambler should try to bet on only one game and be content with any profit he receives, no matter how small it appears. Gambling in this manner would produce higher returns in the long run. 

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #96 on: November 17, 2024, 01:06:20 PM »
Especially if it is a casino-based game, we all know that the game is almost entirely dependent on luck which means there is no strategy that can work well to make us win.

I jokingly tell gamblers that if you want to make money, try sports betting, and if you want to have fun, try casinos, because casinos are designed solely for entertainment, not profit. Gamblers who want to make money from sports betting should consider the following factors before betting: the importance of the match to the stronger team, home advantage, position in the table and the gap they will create if they lose, and the availability of key players. After considering these factors, such a gambler should try to bet on only one game and be content with any profit he receives, no matter how small it appears. Gambling in this manner would produce higher returns in the long run.
When used in an attempt to make a profit sports betting is more a matter of careful analysis than it is a shooting star that you are counting on to bring the gold. There are some other aspects, for instant, the performance of the team, strategies that used and some conditions of the players that can make more rational decisions. However we must also set the record straight here and remember that, as much as analysis enhances the possibility of an outcome the result is never totally certain. Reducing and controlling the number of bets and paying more attention… to the quality of the decision instead of the amount of the bets is a more healthful ways of keeping profit intact for the long term while not losing control of the activity that has the potential of affecting the general financial health of the business.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #97 on: November 17, 2024, 01:33:36 PM »
Yes, even though we see the difference between the competing teams, sometimes the weaker team can win. We cannot predict the exact outcome of the match, but it is clear that it is based on luck.

This is what happens in sports betting, and it will work the same way as other types of gambling. Moreover, it is a slot game that is very luck-based, no one can predict what will come out in the next round.,

You are right. Sports betting can be unpredictable. You can never predict who will win a particular game. Even if you decide to predict games based on the odds, you will not get it right. There are always underdogs who produce unexpected results, making predictions difficult.

In addiction, there are factors that a gambler cannot see before placing a bet, such as red cards, injury, and so on, which can affect the outcome of a game and a gambler's predictions. This explains why winning a bet requires luck.
Red cards, injuries to key players, and so on will always be a spice in the match, and it is very true that it will greatly affect the match, which in general is beneficial to the opponent.

Although in some matches the team that gets a red card can finally win the match, but that rarely happens. Things like this happen unexpectedly, because it happens in the game that is in progress.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #98 on: November 17, 2024, 03:16:48 PM »
I definitely agree with you that sports betting requires skill. But luck must be accepted with skill. In recent times, the worst have won against strong teams in sports betting which is not expected but happen. Therefore the gambler has to bet on a combination of both skill and luck.
Therefore never say that the game should be in skill still luck plays a role in it, what we have skill it only increases your chances of winning, the rest of the results we do not know but I believe in sports betting your win ratio will be higher if you choose the favorite team.

Because I understand the sport of football, about knowledge, team analysis, which players are injured then this is my consideration to bet on sports betting.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #99 on: November 19, 2024, 03:02:23 AM »
In the recent South American qualifying games, it is difficult to determine a result with accuracy because the things that happen in these matches are very different, on the one hand the countries take advantage of their strengths, for example Colombia when they are home they take advantage of the heat of the Atlantic and play at 3pm when the heat is harder, in Bolivia when they are home they take advantage of the altitude of more than 4000 meters above sea level, so it is difficult to beat them, there are many things that each country has and it is difficult according to the skill that we have, because from one moment to another things change, I thought Basil was going to beat Venezuela and Venezuela tied Brazil, Paraguay beat Argentina and Uruguay beat Colombia, so in this case things are very difficult, because neither luck nor skill is enough.
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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #100 on: November 20, 2024, 01:42:51 PM »
Especially if it is a casino-based game, we all know that the game is almost entirely dependent on luck which means there is no strategy that can work well to make us win.

I jokingly tell gamblers that if you want to make money, try sports betting, and if you want to have fun, try casinos, because casinos are designed solely for entertainment, not profit. Gamblers who want to make money from sports betting should consider the following factors before betting: the importance of the match to the stronger team, home advantage, position in the table and the gap they will create if they lose, and the availability of key players. After considering these factors, such a gambler should try to bet on only one game and be content with any profit he receives, no matter how small it appears. Gambling in this manner would produce higher returns in the long run.
Sports betting does seem more winnable, because we can analyze who will compete, but that also does not guarantee that we will win. Many big teams end up losing even though they are facing a weaker team.

We cannot expect gambling to be a profitable place, even if we bet on sports betting. What is clear is that I myself consider it a place to seek pleasure, although I do not deny that I also want to win.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #101 on: November 21, 2024, 06:49:22 PM »
10% skill then it can be said that there is little chance that we will win.
90% skill then the chance of losing is greater because it is random.

But this is what gambling is like, nothing is purely due to skill even if you are good at sports betting that relies on statistical analysis of the club, but in any match there is always something unexpected so this falls into the category of luck.

I agree that all you have to do to win is hope for luck, but you can not ignore the importance of skill in gambling. There are ways to be compensated for your gambling skills. Even if you do not win outright, you can continue to improve your skills, and luck will strike when you least expect it. I believe that in order to attract luck, a gambler must be skilled.

Luck does not just happen; it comes to a gambler who has demonstrated some level of skill. I will not deny that some luck requires no effort or skill because it simply happens, but it is common to see a gambler who exerts some level of skill win more than a gambler who lacks skill.
It's not that I'm ignoring skill but it's a fact that it's ultimately the luck of the draw that determines whether you win or lose.

And indeed some regular gamblers will not play without skills, they must have a little skill how to increase their chances, I don't know about other games but let's say I'm talking about sports then obviously skills are needed, sometimes I myself rely on skills to win in football betting.
While casino gambling is entirely about luck, there is a slight difference in sports betting. In sports betting, having knowledge of various aspects related to sports can be a strategy to stay ahead to win. Although this strategy is not very effective because luck is also involved. If that were the case then those with more knowledge than sports betting would be ahead to win. I definitely agree with you that sports betting requires skill. But luck must be accepted with skill. In recent times, the worst have won against strong teams in sports betting which is not expected but happen. Therefore the gambler has to bet on a combination of both skill and luck.

Between sports betting and casino gambling, sports betting means that the team with the best players is more likely to win, but it is not always the case that the best teams win. Casino gambling depends on complete luck, and no one can predict in advance whether they will win or lose. So I think that in sports betting, the chances are a little higher, but there are two types of betting: you can enjoy watching the game in sports betting and you can enjoy the joy of winning or losing in betting. There is a different kind of joy in playing casino that not everyone can enjoy.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #102 on: November 21, 2024, 09:01:14 PM »
Yes, even though we see the difference between the competing teams, sometimes the weaker team can win. We cannot predict the exact outcome of the match, but it is clear that it is based on luck.

This is what happens in sports betting, and it will work the same way as other types of gambling. Moreover, it is a slot game that is very luck-based, no one can predict what will come out in the next round.,

You are right. Sports betting can be unpredictable. You can never predict who will win a particular game. Even if you decide to predict games based on the odds, you will not get it right. There are always underdogs who produce unexpected results, making predictions difficult.

In addiction, there are factors that a gambler cannot see before placing a bet, such as red cards, injury, and so on, which can affect the outcome of a game and a gambler's predictions. This explains why winning a bet requires luck.
Red cards, injuries to key players, and so on will always be a spice in the match, and it is very true that it will greatly affect the match, which in general is beneficial to the opponent.

Although in some matches the team that gets a red card can finally win the match, but that rarely happens. Things like this happen unexpectedly, because it happens in the game that is in progress.
Yes, it is very rare that a team loses a match if a team is short on players due to a red card. Even if there was no win, the match ended in a draw and the number of losses will surely be less. If I look at cricket, when a team has good batsmen and bowlers, the chances of losing are high. Franchise leagues in particular have such an image. That's why I'm definitely not going to ignore luck here when it comes to winning or losing in gambling. Luck must be there otherwise nothing is possible with skill. Many experience could make a lot of money in gambling if it were possible with skill but I wouldn't underestimate skill and experience. Luck and skill both are needed in gambling.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #103 on: November 21, 2024, 10:20:48 PM »
Sports betting does seem more winnable, because we can analyze who will compete, but that also does not guarantee that we will win. Many big teams end up losing even though they are facing a weaker team.
Even if it is sports betting, the chance to win will be always 50:50. It is sometimes not as easy as we expect, we often saw unpredictable results on the matches. Better players or bigger teams don't always win the matches, sometimes the results surprise everyone. Sure, there is no guarantee at all for the win.

We cannot expect gambling to be a profitable place, even if we bet on sports betting. What is clear is that I myself consider it a place to seek pleasure, although I do not deny that I also want to win.
Indeed. Gambling is a proper place to look for a regular income. It is a place for entertainment or for fun only. We don't need to expect too much for gaining money in gambling. It is better to focus on real jobs if we want to get regular income. In gambling, people even tend to lose their money.  ;D

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #104 on: November 21, 2024, 11:02:50 PM »
Even if it is sports betting, the chance to win will be always 50:50. It is sometimes not as easy as we expect, we often saw unpredictable results on the matches. Better players or bigger teams don't always win the matches, sometimes the results surprise everyone. Sure, there is no guarantee at all for the win.
Yes, although basically there are 2 types of betting in general, skill-based betting and also luck-based betting, but if we look back at the results it is really similar like this:
- Skill-based betting -> seems like 50:50
- Luck-based betting -> purely luck

Yes because in betting, the luck factor really exists and is very influential. unless you can cheat continuously and not be caught, maybe there is a different formula.
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