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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #105 on: November 22, 2024, 10:17:00 AM »
Even if it is sports betting, the chance to win will be always 50:50. It is sometimes not as easy as we expect, we often saw unpredictable results on the matches. Better players or bigger teams don't always win the matches, sometimes the results surprise everyone. Sure, there is no guarantee at all for the win.
Yes, although basically there are 2 types of betting in general, skill-based betting and also luck-based betting, but if we look back at the results it is really similar like this:
- Skill-based betting -> seems like 50:50
- Luck-based betting -> purely luck

Yes because in betting, the luck factor really exists and is very influential. unless you can cheat continuously and not be caught, maybe there is a different formula.

We usually play bets depending on skill, luck, gambling is always possible to win based on these two.  If you don't have luck you will never win at gambling because in many games I gamble for sure but I lose because I don't have that luck.  So sometimes it is possible to win at gambling using strategy if there is luck, but currently the luckiest people win the most money from gambling.
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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #105 on: November 22, 2024, 10:17:00 AM »

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #106 on: November 22, 2024, 04:04:37 PM »
Red cards, injuries to key players, and so on will always be a spice in the match, and it is very true that it will greatly affect the match, which in general is beneficial to the opponent.

Although in some matches the team that gets a red card can finally win the match, but that rarely happens. Things like this happen unexpectedly, because it happens in the game that is in progress.
Yes, it is very rare that a team loses a match if a team is short on players due to a red card. Even if there was no win, the match ended in a draw and the number of losses will surely be less. If I look at cricket, when a team has good batsmen and bowlers, the chances of losing are high. Franchise leagues in particular have such an image. That's why I'm definitely not going to ignore luck here when it comes to winning or losing in gambling. Luck must be there otherwise nothing is possible with skill. Many experience could make a lot of money in gambling if it were possible with skill but I wouldn't underestimate skill and experience. Luck and skill both are needed in gambling.
Moreover, if we make a multi bet, it will be much harder to win. Because we have to be able to predict correctly according to the number of matches we participate in, if we predict wrongly for one reason or another, then we will feel the defeat.

In sports betting, we must have the skill to analyze, yes, even though in the end we never know what the results will be like, because once again luck will work.

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« Reply #106 on: November 22, 2024, 04:04:37 PM »

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #107 on: November 22, 2024, 04:47:54 PM »
Moreover, if we make a multi bet, it will be much harder to win. Because we have to be able to predict correctly according to the number of matches we participate in, if we predict wrongly for one reason or another, then we will feel the defeat.

In sports betting, we must have the skill to analyze, yes, even though in the end we never know what the results will be like, because once again luck will work.

Even when you make a single selection in sports betting, you are not guaranteed to win. Then how much more making multi selections. The risk involved in multibet is very high, which is why a gambler can gamble for years without winning because correctly predicting a series of games is a difficult task.

It is so difficult that if you predict 50 games and get one wrong, you lose everything. Bookies have devised cut 1 so that even if one game cuts you, you will still be paid, but this benefits gamblers who accumulate a large number of games, but the more games you accumulate, the higher the risk and thus the difficulty of winning. At the end, it is the bookies who benefits.
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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #108 on: November 22, 2024, 11:37:37 PM »
Moreover, if we make a multi bet, it will be much harder to win. Because we have to be able to predict correctly according to the number of matches we participate in, if we predict wrongly for one reason or another, then we will feel the defeat.

In sports betting, we must have the skill to analyze, yes, even though in the end we never know what the results will be like, because once again luck will work.

Even when you make a single selection in sports betting, you are not guaranteed to win. Then how much more making multi selections. The risk involved in multibet is very high, which is why a gambler can gamble for years without winning because correctly predicting a series of games is a difficult task.

It is so difficult that if you predict 50 games and get one wrong, you lose everything. Bookies have devised cut 1 so that even if one game cuts you, you will still be paid, but this benefits gamblers who accumulate a large number of games, but the more games you accumulate, the higher the risk and thus the difficulty of winning. At the end, it is the bookies who benefits.
Of course I do find something intresting in sports betting, but I must say that this activity involves a great deal of risk, unfortunately, even more if we decide to bet on more than one outcome at once. In this regard, there is a presumption that the greater the IV accuracy and decision complexity, the higher the probability of losing capital. Knowing this is possible to be more careful and not go with impulse in given choices.

To retain the control the best thing that can be done is to put some reasonable standard to the level of the bets or the amount of money that is used. Thus, even if the worst comes to pass we shall not be heavily compromised by losses on our way to enjoying the experience. We can also shift our thinking toward the wagering process as fun and excitement, not just to make a tonne of money. The best way to neutralise adverse effects of contractually-appropriate but operationally-inappropriate decisions is to ensure that expectations are kept realistic.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #109 on: November 23, 2024, 01:38:37 PM »
You’ve provided a well-balanced explanation that highlights the interplay of skill and luck in gambling. I agree that the impact of each depends on the type of game and the context of the bets being placed.

In skill-based activities like sports betting, knowledge, analysis, and money management can give participants an edge. However, even the most informed predictions are not immune to unexpected events that can completely change the outcome—this is where luck plays its part.

On the other hand, purely chance-based games like slots or jackpots rely entirely on luck, where no amount of skill or strategy can influence the results.

This is why platforms like Betron Markets aim to bring a more balanced and engaging experience to the table. By ensuring that no one wins it all or loses it all, Betron introduces a fairer system where outcomes are less reliant on extremes. It’s a unique twist that makes betting feel less like gambling and more like a test of strategy and informed decision-making while still keeping the excitement intact.

Ultimately, understanding the balance between skill and luck is crucial for making responsible and enjoyable decisions when participating in these activities.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #110 on: November 23, 2024, 05:28:32 PM »
Moreover, if we make a multi bet, it will be much harder to win. Because we have to be able to predict correctly according to the number of matches we participate in, if we predict wrongly for one reason or another, then we will feel the defeat.

In sports betting, we must have the skill to analyze, yes, even though in the end we never know what the results will be like, because once again luck will work.

Even when you make a single selection in sports betting, you are not guaranteed to win. Then how much more making multi selections. The risk involved in multibet is very high, which is why a gambler can gamble for years without winning because correctly predicting a series of games is a difficult task.

It is so difficult that if you predict 50 games and get one wrong, you lose everything. Bookies have devised cut 1 so that even if one game cuts you, you will still be paid, but this benefits gamblers who accumulate a large number of games, but the more games you accumulate, the higher the risk and thus the difficulty of winning. At the end, it is the bookies who benefits.
In addition, temptation also sometimes comes at the end of the bet. For example, we place a bet in 5 matches, we have passed the 4th match and have 1 match left to win.

Well, this often happens, because when I continue betting I usually lose, but I hesitate to take the win in the 4th match because psychologically I am driven to be able to win with maximum victory. I think many people also experience things like this.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #111 on: November 26, 2024, 09:08:37 PM »
Well, your question doesn't make sense, it should be like "Is winning a bet luck or skill based?'

Any form of betting can be performed by anyone and all you need is something to wager, but winning is totally depends on the luck factor. Yes other skills might be involved in certain games like poker or in sports betting but none of those give a guaranteed win.
Wining on gambling any day is purely luck and nothing else there's nothing as skill in gambling when it's your lucky day you shines and smile's to the house so there's no link between between being skillful with gambling

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #112 on: November 27, 2024, 06:43:47 AM »
Well, your question doesn't make sense, it should be like "Is winning a bet luck or skill based?'

Any form of betting can be performed by anyone and all you need is something to wager, but winning is totally depends on the luck factor. Yes other skills might be involved in certain games like poker or in sports betting but none of those give a guaranteed win.
Wining on gambling any day is purely luck and nothing else there's nothing as skill in gambling when it's your lucky day you shines and smile's to the house so there's no link between between being skillful with gambling
Most gambling depends on luck and its result is very hard to predict with certainty. But in the game there’s a lot of random factor and some try to use a strategy to increase their chances but, unfortunately, the random is the major ingredient of the game. It can also be incredibly fun and rewarding when we’re lucky, especially when someone else is managing our money and problems. Although, it also tells us that we shouldn’t be so tough on ourselves and that things can be tricky if you have no clear boundaries. Gamblining should be treated as entertainment, so that one keeps hold and knows that they can not always get what they expect. It is like this so that we have fun at the game and not place too much importance on ourselves.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #113 on: November 27, 2024, 12:20:41 PM »
Well, your question doesn't make sense, it should be like "Is winning a bet luck or skill based?'

Any form of betting can be performed by anyone and all you need is something to wager, but winning is totally depends on the luck factor. Yes other skills might be involved in certain games like poker or in sports betting but none of those give a guaranteed win.
Wining on gambling any day is purely luck and nothing else there's nothing as skill in gambling when it's your lucky day you shines and smile's to the house so there's no link between between being skillful with gambling
Most gambling depends on luck and its result is very hard to predict with certainty. But in the game there’s a lot of random factor and some try to use a strategy to increase their chances but, unfortunately, the random is the major ingredient of the game. It can also be incredibly fun and rewarding when we’re lucky, especially when someone else is managing our money and problems. Although, it also tells us that we shouldn’t be so tough on ourselves and that things can be tricky if you have no clear boundaries. Gamblining should be treated as entertainment, so that one keeps hold and knows that they can not always get what they expect. It is like this so that we have fun at the game and not place too much importance on ourselves.
And this is something that people should really be that realizing in the first place on which it doesnt matter whether they will really be that getting engagement with betting or casino games on which these things will really be that heavily relies with luck but of course when it comes to betting then having some research would really be that significant because on the moment that you will really be that dealing up with it then you will really be needing up those informations on which it will really be at least giving out that kind of good winning chance on a particular bet.
It is really that important that we do at least know on what kind of gambling we are dealing into but in overall luck will really be always a main factor.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #114 on: November 28, 2024, 01:40:50 PM »
And this is something that people should really be that realizing in the first place on which it doesnt matter whether they will really be that getting engagement with betting or casino games on which these things will really be that heavily relies with luck but of course when it comes to betting then having some research would really be that significant because on the moment that you will really be that dealing up with it then you will really be needing up those informations on which it will really be at least giving out that kind of good winning chance on a particular bet.
It is really that important that we do at least know on what kind of gambling we are dealing into but in overall luck will really be always a main factor.
For sports betting, we can probably find more information from the teams that will compete. However, for other games I don't think it can be used, because it all comes back to luck.

I have an experience about my friend who is looking for the highest RTP, but he also loses more than he wins. So that can be an example that when a high RTP that "said" can create greater opportunities also does not guarantee anything.

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #115 on: November 28, 2024, 06:52:01 PM »
Wining on gambling any day is purely luck and nothing else there's nothing as skill in gambling when it's your lucky day you shines and smile's to the house so there's no link between between being skillful with gambling

As much as gambling is a game of chance, it is also incorrect to lead people to believe that they do not need to put forth any effort to win. As a gambler, particularly those who engage in sports betting, it is necessary to conduct a reasonable level of research because it is this research that brings luck.

When a gambler conducts research, he will easily avoid certain games that involve a high level of risk or uncertainty and instead place bets on teams with a high chance of winning. The gambler may not win all the time, but he is certain to have winning days. 
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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #116 on: November 28, 2024, 07:41:28 PM »
Wining on gambling any day is purely luck and nothing else there's nothing as skill in gambling when it's your lucky day you shines and smile's to the house so there's no link between between being skillful with gambling

As much as gambling is a game of chance, it is also incorrect to lead people to believe that they do not need to put forth any effort to win. As a gambler, particularly those who engage in sports betting, it is necessary to conduct a reasonable level of research because it is this research that brings luck.

When a gambler conducts research, he will easily avoid certain games that involve a high level of risk or uncertainty and instead place bets on teams with a high chance of winning. The gambler may not win all the time, but he is certain to have winning days.
Am not against the point you're making for gamblers to do a proper background study and check on teams that they want to place bet on but as a Gambler that I am I don't think It is wrong for me to say that gambling is purely luck because even after doing your research you will find out that teams still go ahead to lose what you can do the highest is doing a background study which will gives you an idea of the teams performance and give you a probability of winning that's why you have odds in every game that you bet on but you still find out that that big odds still go ahead to wining small odds like this past weekend Manchester city with a odd of about 1.50 lost to Tottenham Hotspur with about 5.00 odds depending on the gambling platform you're using so going to do a research is good but doesn't help you in wining because when it comes to gambling odds and going to doing a study on the matches doesn't help in wining

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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #117 on: November 28, 2024, 08:32:44 PM »
Betting is for both skill and luck. But betting is mor of skill base event then luck. You have to know and understand the two teams playing before placing your bet. But even though you have the skills to bet, you still need luck to win because football games are unpredictable. You might think that the team you are supporting will win the team but it is not always like that. We have seen that from many matches. So luck is also part of betting. Because of the skills needed, people are asking for others to follow them for their prediction tips. So personal effort is needed as well and add it to the luck.
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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #118 on: December 07, 2024, 12:55:28 AM »
I have always said that we always look for luck, and the success of Everything is Knowing, so when we combine our wisdom and looking for luck it is the best of all the mixers to play in a Casino , of course the control of our finances before playing is the best factor to consider, without these ingredients we cannot do things well, therefore when we go to see what is better if luck , having it, is Better to have more at the time of playing, there is no loss there.
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Re: is betting skills or luck?
« Reply #119 on: December 08, 2024, 04:17:11 PM »
I have always said that we always look for luck, and the success of Everything is Knowing, so when we combine our wisdom and looking for luck it is the best of all the mixers to play in a Casino , of course the control of our finances before playing is the best factor to consider, without these ingredients we cannot do things well, therefore when we go to see what is better if luck , having it, is Better to have more at the time of playing, there is no loss there.
My point is on financial control or financial management. Because when it is messy, then everything will be messy. We might become gamblers who don't know the limits or become very excessive gamblers.

we both say that luck plays a very important role in gambling and we don't know when it will come. When our financial management is bad, then we will most likely spend money before luck comes.

 

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