Moving Karma and avoiding abuse

[Findingnemo]

I guess admin is already being generous and giving Karma to the users who report abusers and I have done it only once and recieved +10 but this suggestion may look encouraging spam busting but people will always find ways to abuse the system like pointed out earlier people will create alt account just to get the Karma and speed up the process which is not organic so I wish the system left to be same as now.

[Mate2237]

This is good idea and it will make people to post qualitatively and not quantitatively. And for the karma give away, admin has been given like to those who actively revealing post Bursters, spammers and other malicious characters.

But the reporter should have enough evidence when giving any report and other members should also critically analyse the accusation and if the person is guilty then the rewards should be given to the reporter and if they are false then the reporter should receive the punishments. Because some people might bring false accusations because of the rewards.

[Freemind]

I guess admin is already being generous and giving Karma to the users who report abusers and I have done it only once and recieved +10 but this suggestion may look encouraging spam busting but people will always find ways to abuse the system like pointed out earlier people will create alt account just to get the Karma and speed up the process which is not organic so I wish the system left to be same as now.

What you say is similar to what other forum users have commented in previous posts, but I think no one should be alarmed and no one should be wrong. I already said that this is a simple test that ends on December 31 of this year. I am aware that there will be people who want to abuse and it is possible that some will do so, but it would be, at best, a minority. Really the most important thing is that people participate more in the forum, there is less spam, shilling, etc... and also that more Karma is distributed among the users. If there is not much interest or there are many users trying to abuse it, the test is canceled on the last day of next month and that's it, no problem.

[Lucius]

@Freemind, I think that in a little more than a month there can't be too much damage from the abuse of your generosity, and that's why it's good that it's just a test in which you'll see how the forum members will react.

Is there a specific date when you will start applying the new karma rewards or is it already valid since this topic was opened?

[Freemind]

@Freemind, I think that in a little more than a month there can't be too much damage from the abuse of your generosity, and that's why it's good that it's just a test in which you'll see how the forum members will react.

Is there a specific date when you will start applying the new karma rewards or is it already valid since this topic was opened?

@Lucius, precisely because of the little time left until December 31st I decided to do this "test". In such a short time, users who decide to do things wrong will not have much time, so the damage, as you say, will be minimal.

These Karma rewards apply from the time I wrote in OP.

[Lucius]

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These Karma rewards apply from the time I wrote in OP.

I thought you would start implementing the new rules from the beginning of December - considering that I have a report the day after your announcement and I didn't notice that I was hit with the new reward

[DYING_S0UL]

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Hey Freemind,

I had a quick question, this might be little off topic though. How/where do one report low quality posts? I mean is there any dedicated thread for that? Or do we use the "report to moderator" button? How does that work? By low quality I meant copy paste posting.

Today I saw one user who was doing copy paste posting. Although he added the source link at the end, but he didn't add any value, opinion or anything of his own. He took the entire content from some news sites and posted it here!

I reported it here since he is one of the participant at Royse's campaign.

[Freemind]

I thought you would start implementing the new rules from the beginning of December - considering that I have a report the day after your announcement and I didn't notice that I was hit with the new reward

I just saw the report you said and the reason you didn't have Karma was because I didn't see that report

If within a few hours (or the next day) of publishing the report the user who makes the report has not received the corresponding Karma according to the numbers published in the OP, please tell me, in a thread or by PM.

+10.

Hey Freemind,

I had a quick question, this might be little off topic though. How/where do one report low quality posts? I mean is there any dedicated thread for that? Or do we use the "report to moderator" button? How does that work? By low quality I meant copy paste posting.

Today I saw one user who was doing copy paste posting. Although he added the source link at the end, but he didn't add any value, opinion or anything of his own. He took the entire content from some news sites and posted it here!

I reported it here since he is one of the participant at Royse's campaign.

No, there is no thread dedicated to that type of spam. But you can post your reports in the threads that are already available for those things.

+4.

[dragononcrypto]

Hey Freemind
I had a quick question, this might be little off topic though. How/where do one report low quality posts? I mean is there any dedicated thread for that? Or do we use the "report to moderator" button? How does that work? By low quality I meant copy paste posting.

I think our President forgot there is the topic for shitposting (as you already found it seems): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320260.0

Shitposts are otherwise on the "do not report to mod list": https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=112180.0

I realise this might sound like a contradiction, but it's because if a user needs to be warned/punished, then it needs to be reported to a D team based mod to act upon.

If you just use the report to mod function, at best the post will be deleted, but more likely the report will just be closed with no action taken.

[DYING_S0UL]

I think our President forgot there is the topic for shitposting (as you already found it seems): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320260.0

We are only human! Yes, I found that thread, made the report again!

Shitposts are otherwise on the "do not report to mod list": https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=112180.0
I realise this might sound like a contradiction, but it's because if a user needs to be warned/punished, then it needs to be reported to a D team based mod to act upon. If you just use the report to mod function, at best the post will be deleted, but more likely the report will just be closed with no action taken.

Sorry, but I didn't understand this statement! So you mean rather than using the "Report to mod" function, we should directly report it to the D team? This way they can be punished publicly!

[dragononcrypto]

I think our President forgot there is the topic for shitposting (as you already found it seems): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320260.0

We are only human! Yes, I found that thread, made the report again!

If you didn't initially report in D team section, then you were right to report again there. That's what it's there for 

Shitposts are otherwise on the "do not report to mod list": https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=112180.0
I realise this might sound like a contradiction, but it's because if a user needs to be warned/punished, then it needs to be reported to a D team based mod to act upon. If you just use the report to mod function, at best the post will be deleted, but more likely the report will just be closed with no action taken.

Sorry, but I didn't understand this statement! So you mean rather than using the "Report to mod" function, we should directly report it to the D team? This way they can be punished publicly!

I think every-time I explain it makes less and less sense, so it's not just you 

It's nothing to do with private/public reporting, but simply the mods that will deal with each report, ie the technical limitations of such reporting. For example if you use report to mod function, it will be seen by all section mods as well as global mods. A section mod is either Jnr Mod or Full Mod (modz), and the former have no ability to send warnings, while the later have little to no ability to apply punishemnt badges. Furthermore, not all GMs deal with the English-speaking side of the forum aside from the odd topic trashed here or moved there (about half deal with all the other languages combined, so these GMs typically won't deal with D team related issues, that's very much isolated to the general sections).

So if you use the report to mod function, you are likely going to be reporting to the wrong set of mods basically. I keep an eye on old reports for this reason, but only about once a week.

[Freemind]

I think our President forgot there is the topic for shitposting (as you already found it seems): https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320260.0

Shitposts are otherwise on the "do not report to mod list": https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=112180.0

I realise this might sound like a contradiction, but it's because if a user needs to be warned/punished, then it needs to be reported to a D team based mod to act upon.

If you just use the report to mod function, at best the post will be deleted, but more likely the report will just be closed with no action taken.

Precisely for things like that (forgetting something) I said in another post a few hours ago that someone would remind me of things if I didn't act on something in a few hours.

dragononcrypto is absolutely right.

My apologies.

+3.

[Lucius]

I thought you would start implementing the new rules from the beginning of December - considering that I have a report the day after your announcement and I didn't notice that I was hit with the new reward

I just saw the report you said and the reason you didn't have Karma was because I didn't see that report

If within a few hours (or the next day) of publishing the report the user who makes the report has not received the corresponding Karma according to the numbers published in the OP, please tell me, in a thread or by PM.

+10.
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No problem, I'll pay attention to it. It will be interesting to see if more members will become active around reports - and I wonder how many of them even know about your offer, considering that this board is not very popular compared to some others.

What else can you say except if you care about the forum, the forum will care about you back

[yhiaali3]

If translators want to translate this OP into their language, they will be welcomed and also rewarded.

Thanks @Freemind

If you allow me, I have transferred the topic and translated it into Arabic and pinned it in the Arabic section
Here is the link:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=27.0

I hope I did a good job in the translation
Regards

[bitterguy28]

great initiative!

i am sure that everyone here on the forum wants to make sure the forum is functioning properly and that we maintain an active and very productive discussion here in our community so any reports of such should be encouraged and + karma will only push the members further into that direction

i just hope we don’t randomly report people for the sake of getting karma it can be a tedious process trying to verify whether the reported account is actually abusing the system or not let us be mindful and take context into account