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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2024, 04:02:53 PM »
But I have a little experience about the crypto market... the market always go in an opposite direction whenever I place any trade.
Even if the trade is speculated correctly and ends up on a perfect prediction, the market must always move opposite to the trade before bouncing back....

Iam not a trader, as i it always happens to me as well.

What i found very useful and successful to me is to stop trading and thinking only about long term.

Buy something thinking about holding for years. What happens daily is irrelevant, because I won't sell anyway.

Of course now isn't the best time to buy, as most cryptocurrencies are near their ATH. But if you do have conviction that the price movement will be upward in the future you can buy.

I understand your motive of HODLing instead of trading, but when you push the trading area aside I guess one can't gain the experience and probably daily or weekly profit as the case may be. For the area of HODLing, I have some assets on HODL too but the profit to be realized here takes much longer time, that's the major reason I had to also start the journey of becoming a successful trader.
But since I started observing the market going on opposite direction to my trade, I had to raise this topic to get some necessary information and advice from those traders who has more experience in the crypto market and with the comments from most users in this forum, I see that it's something that I have to encounter in other to grow more professional in making trade decisions.

        -     If the opposite happens in our trading activity, it is because of the proof that the market in this crypto space is really unpredictable,
that is the truth that we must understand.

And when we experience this, it only means one thing and that is that we still have a lot to learn in crypto trading, which we are involved in, in this matter as well.

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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2024, 04:02:53 PM »

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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2024, 04:30:02 PM »
But I have a little experience about the crypto market... the market always go in an opposite direction whenever I place any trade.
Even if the trade is speculated correctly and ends up on a perfect prediction, the market must always move opposite to the trade before bouncing back....

Iam not a trader, as i it always happens to me as well.

What i found very useful and successful to me is to stop trading and thinking only about long term.

Buy something thinking about holding for years. What happens daily is irrelevant, because I won't sell anyway.

Of course now isn't the best time to buy, as most cryptocurrencies are near their ATH. But if you do have conviction that the price movement will be upward in the future you can buy.

I understand your motive of HODLing instead of trading, but when you push the trading area aside I guess one can't gain the experience and probably daily or weekly profit as the case may be. For the area of HODLing, I have some assets on HODL too but the profit to be realized here takes much longer time, that's the major reason I had to also start the journey of becoming a successful trader.
But since I started observing the market going on opposite direction to my trade, I had to raise this topic to get some necessary information and advice from those traders who has more experience in the crypto market and with the comments from most users in this forum, I see that it's something that I have to encounter in other to grow more professional in making trade decisions.

        -     If the opposite happens in our trading activity, it is because of the proof that the market in this crypto space is really unpredictable,
that is the truth that we must understand.

And when we experience this, it only means one thing and that is that we still have a lot to learn in crypto trading, which we are involved in, in this matter as well.
The unpredictable price movement of bitcoin makes it more difficult to make profit from trading. I don't see why it's a must for people to trade, because of quick profit that's not guaranteed. Someone like the OP will run at loss severally, before he will know that investing in bitcoin is easier than trading when you don't understand the technical analysis and fundamental analysis of trading. Even if you understand it, losses are inevitable.

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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2024, 05:52:45 PM »
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2024, 06:44:46 PM »
In respect to trading crypto, it is obvious that a trader must have a grounded knowledge on trading before venturing into it otherwise he'll be recording losses on any of his trades.
Even up to the professional traders, they also have the strategies and risk management techniques to maximize profit and reduce loss.

But I have a little experience about the crypto market... the market always go in an opposite direction whenever I place any trade.
Even if the trade is speculated correctly and ends up on a perfect prediction, the market must always move opposite to the trade before bouncing back....

I begin to feel the market is watching ones trade in a way....

How many of you have experienced this and do you feel the market is watching ones trade?
How can a correct speculated and pefect predicted trade can be called perfect if opposite market can disrupt it. If you predicted it right and entered at right time and booked the profit and it went perfect so it should not matter if the market moves in the opposite direction.

If you greed for more profits when your predictions are perfect then avoid that and book the profit and look for another opportunity. Trading is not hard if we stick to the plan and modify the plan according to the market.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2024, 07:18:43 PM »
I begin to feel the market is watching ones trade in a way....

How many of you have experienced this and do you feel the market is watching ones trade?

I have similar experience but only on futures with high leverage.
I've seach about this months ago and yes someone is watching they can easily notice those traders who use high leverage because you are close to your entry.
Other large traders and investors with large capital can easily manipulate the price in order to take down small or retail traders; after that, you will notice that the price will rise to the level you predicted.

Do not worry, you are not alone; we are competing with other traders, and you are not the only one who trades.
However, there's a way to avoid them you just need some volume data and only trade on a coin with high volume and drop your leverage or better trade only in spot exchange.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2024, 07:31:51 PM »
But I have a little experience about the crypto market... the market always go in an opposite direction whenever I place any trade.
Even if the trade is speculated correctly and ends up on a perfect prediction, the market must always move opposite to the trade before bouncing back....

Iam not a trader, as i it always happens to me as well.

What i found very useful and successful to me is to stop trading and thinking only about long term.

Buy something thinking about holding for years. What happens daily is irrelevant, because I won't sell anyway.

Of course now isn't the best time to buy, as most cryptocurrencies are near their ATH. But if you do have conviction that the price movement will be upward in the future you can buy.

I understand your motive of HODLing instead of trading, but when you push the trading area aside I guess one can't gain the experience and probably daily or weekly profit as the case may be. For the area of HODLing, I have some assets on HODL too but the profit to be realized here takes much longer time, that's the major reason I had to also start the journey of becoming a successful trader.
But since I started observing the market going on opposite direction to my trade, I had to raise this topic to get some necessary information and advice from those traders who has more experience in the crypto market and with the comments from most users in this forum, I see that it's something that I have to encounter in other to grow more professional in making trade decisions.

        -     If the opposite happens in our trading activity, it is because of the proof that the market in this crypto space is really unpredictable,
that is the truth that we must understand.

And when we experience this, it only means one thing and that is that we still have a lot to learn in crypto trading, which we are involved in, in this matter as well.
The unpredictable price movement of bitcoin makes it more difficult to make profit from trading. I don't see why it's a must for people to trade, because of quick profit that's not guaranteed. Someone like the OP will run at loss severally, before he will know that investing in bitcoin is easier than trading when you don't understand the technical analysis and fundamental analysis of trading. Even if you understand it, losses are inevitable.

Indeed, Many have experienced it and most of us have repeatedly experienced this loss in trading and that is normal for us as traders. Now, do we always have only two choices, long-term or short-term? Now, if we do the short-term we should always think and remember to expect the high risk.

And we should know where we should take the risk, is it in the spot or futures? and if you really want to be safe, choose the long-term,
this is all I think about in these situations.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2024, 08:02:37 PM »
I truly understand you OP. But the bigger problem comes when a trader continues to have these feeling that the market is against him without him reviewing his strategies and dealing with those emotions that might make him make some impulsive decisions. There is no point for any trader to be too hard on himself, improvements takes time.
what a lot of people might not want to hear is that you won’t be perfect in anything the first time around there should and will always be room for improvement for anything you start to learn and most especially this applies to trading it will nit be very sudden that you will be immediately good at it there’s no such thing like that but giving up the first moment you encounter a hindrance is also something you shouldn’t do be patient and push harder
Any trader that is so impatient will miss lots of opportunities and this is not a good sign that the trader will be successful in the future. It is impatience that makes these traders want everything to go perfectly within a very short while. I will recommend that those set of traders quit trading instead of wasting their time and resources.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2024, 08:02:37 PM »


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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2024, 05:26:43 PM »
I truly understand you OP. But the bigger problem comes when a trader continues to have these feeling that the market is against him without him reviewing his strategies and dealing with those emotions that might make him make some impulsive decisions. There is no point for any trader to be too hard on himself, improvements takes time.
what a lot of people might not want to hear is that you won’t be perfect in anything the first time around there should and will always be room for improvement for anything you start to learn and most especially this applies to trading it will nit be very sudden that you will be immediately good at it there’s no such thing like that but giving up the first moment you encounter a hindrance is also something you shouldn’t do be patient and push harder

To do something good, we have to go through many problems at times, after which we get something good. In everything, to get something good, we have to go through many bad times. Only if we can get through the bad times well, we can hope to get something good, otherwise it can become very difficult for us to get something good.

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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2024, 10:12:11 PM »
I truly understand you OP. But the bigger problem comes when a trader continues to have these feeling that the market is against him without him reviewing his strategies and dealing with those emotions that might make him make some impulsive decisions. There is no point for any trader to be too hard on himself, improvements takes time.
what a lot of people might not want to hear is that you won’t be perfect in anything the first time around there should and will always be room for improvement for anything you start to learn and most especially this applies to trading it will nit be very sudden that you will be immediately good at it there’s no such thing like that but giving up the first moment you encounter a hindrance is also something you shouldn’t do be patient and push harder

To do something good, we have to go through many problems at times, after which we get something good. In everything, to get something good, we have to go through many bad times. Only if we can get through the bad times well, we can hope to get something good, otherwise it can become very difficult for us to get something good.
in life we ​​have to struggle so if we want to succeed we will go through difficult times and from the difficulties we have gone through we can gain experience. And as many people say experience is the best teacher for us. We can learn and fix the difficulties or mistakes we have made in our difficult times.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2024, 10:37:43 PM »
in life we ​​have to struggle so if we want to succeed we will go through difficult times and from the difficulties we have gone through we can gain experience. And as many people say experience is the best teacher for us. We can learn and fix the difficulties or mistakes we have made in our difficult times.
There was a proverb and that are people repeating that"after the bad days there will be a good day."  I will not deny that proverb because it true but I will say for those people's who can do the struggle and make their on that kind of dedication level after that the earn the good days. For those people there will be just bad days who don't struggle in their life for the success.
So if we want to get the result of the proverb in our life we must have to do the struggle nothing like that sitting on chair and thinking about the once a day the good days will come.

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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2024, 10:41:30 PM »
I truly understand you OP. But the bigger problem comes when a trader continues to have these feeling that the market is against him without him reviewing his strategies and dealing with those emotions that might make him make some impulsive decisions. There is no point for any trader to be too hard on himself, improvements takes time.
what a lot of people might not want to hear is that you won’t be perfect in anything the first time around there should and will always be room for improvement for anything you start to learn and most especially this applies to trading it will nit be very sudden that you will be immediately good at it there’s no such thing like that but giving up the first moment you encounter a hindrance is also something you shouldn’t do be patient and push harder
Any trader that is so impatient will miss lots of opportunities and this is not a good sign that the trader will be successful in the future. It is impatience that makes these traders want everything to go perfectly within a very short while. I will recommend that those set of traders quit trading instead of wasting their time and resources.
Not only traders, but a holder must also have high patience because the crypto market is difficult to predict. We can make analysis, and plans but sometimes reality is not as we planned. Moreover, being a trader who focuses on short-term profits must of course be patient and continue to practice to be able to have good skills in order to get maximum profit and minimize losses.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2024, 05:42:39 AM »
Lol, it's usual, 'market does opposite of my position', and I disagree. Back when I used to trade actively, sometimes I would profit and sometimes I would not, so I don't really agree that market watches me and does opposite — it just sounds absurd anyhow.

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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2024, 07:53:12 PM »
Lol, it's usual, 'market does opposite of my position', and I disagree. Back when I used to trade actively, sometimes I would profit and sometimes I would not, so I don't really agree that market watches me and does opposite — it just sounds absurd anyhow.
We can recognize irregularities in investing when the market often reacts opposite to our actions, causing us to lose money or reduce profits. This can happen when investors chase the market trend at the end of that trend and a trend reversal occurs shortly after.

Additionally, it's possible that whales are monitoring retail investors through data in order books, trading volumes, and user behavior on CEXs to manipulate the market and maximize their profits.

And we must also accept the fact that the majority must be wrong and lose money to generate profits for the minority. This is the law that has maintained financial markets for centuries.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2024, 02:56:37 AM »
In respect to trading crypto, it is obvious that a trader must have a grounded knowledge on trading before venturing into it otherwise he'll be recording losses on any of his trades.
Even up to the professional traders, they also have the strategies and risk management techniques to maximize profit and reduce loss.

But I have a little experience about the crypto market... the market always go in an opposite direction whenever I place any trade.
Even if the trade is speculated correctly and ends up on a perfect prediction, the market must always move opposite to the trade before bouncing back....

I begin to feel the market is watching ones trade in a way....

How many of you have experienced this and do you feel the market is watching ones trade?
How can a correct speculated and pefect predicted trade can be called perfect if opposite market can disrupt it. If you predicted it right and entered at right time and booked the profit and it went perfect so it should not matter if the market moves in the opposite direction.

If you greed for more profits when your predictions are perfect then avoid that and book the profit and look for another opportunity. Trading is not hard if we stick to the plan and modify the plan according to the market.

We know that there are no perfect traders when it comes to trading in the crypto field. Everything we use to invest in trading here in the crypto space always has a risk attached to it. That's why some of our friends always say that it's important to know how to trade.

Because of this, the analysis we will do depends on the price that the coins can go to, because if the direction or trend that the price of the coin is going to is right, we will definitely be able to obtain a profit in the future because we will immediately see the position that we will place.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2024, 09:34:52 PM »
We know that there are no perfect traders when it comes to trading in the crypto field. Everything we use to invest in trading here in the crypto space always has a risk attached to it. That's why some of our friends always say that it's important to know how to trade.

Because of this, the analysis we will do depends on the price that the coins can go to, because if the direction or trend that the price of the coin is going to is right, we will definitely be able to obtain a profit in the future because we will immediately see the position that we will place.
Right now market is too bullish that if you pick any token from any good narrative and invest according to supports you will make profit till next week. This week was very bullish because BTC made ATH and next week can also be bullish. Profit can be easily made so even if their is risk in trading without getting into it and losing money one can't become mature.

Analysis can only be done if the person has good knowledge about trading. Most newbies make lose because they over trade and they are always seeing the candles from the wrong angles that's why they make profits in first due to market's situation and after they make lose.
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