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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2025, 11:45:30 PM »
This is the most reasonable thing in my opinion. It will be very difficult for us to stop scams, because of several things:
- It will appear again and again by different scammers
- They may be a very organized unit
- They are usually anonymous and difficult to track
- They are a very professional cyber crimes network, maybe.

At least, when we can't stop the scammers, we must be able to limit ourselves so as not to fall into the scammers' trap. Because even if they act and we are aware and can anticipate the scam, then their efforts will be in vain for us and we can avoid the scam.
scammers will always be there and we can't stop them. They have a team and always have new tricks to trap their victims. We must be careful and increase our knowledge and experience so as not to become victims of these scammers.
Especially newbies who lack knowledge and experience, will be easy targets for scammers.
Scammers will never end......  ;D
That's why our awareness also never stop there.

- They are a very professional cyber crimes network, maybe.
That'a true. A case where they made a mistake is rare. Even though chain analysis company collects their addresses for the government, it usually takes very long to return the money to the victims. There's a high chance the government will take their money because it comes from "unknown sources" or something similar. It's safer to assume our money is lost if we fall for scams hence why learning how to spot one is so important.
Yes of course, and it is not easy to get it back. Unless it is really wide open and the real identity of the person is known, then maybe it can be overcome. However, how many percent of the number of scams that have occurred? I don't know, what is clear is that it is better for us to avoid scams.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2025, 08:32:10 AM »
Busting down the scammers sure sounds good, however - it would need lots of capital and determination, as you said.
Maybe said organization could make other moves, such as just educating people on the side of things, just so that there would be fewer cases to work with.
Other than that - great idea.

And besides the time consumed, capital intensive and determination as you explained, the experiences required to carry out this operation is a bigger challenge. You see, not many people has the experienced to handle this operation, and may you have to hire an expert to do the job with an added expenses.

In addition, educating people could also be a way out to enlighten users about rampaging scammers and fraudulent activities on the crypto community. We are required to be very vigilant at all time.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2025, 02:21:28 PM »
Busting down the scammers sure sounds good, however - it would need lots of capital and determination, as you said.
Maybe said organization could make other moves, such as just educating people on the side of things, just so that there would be fewer cases to work with.
Other than that - great idea.

And besides the time consumed, capital intensive and determination as you explained, the experiences required to carry out this operation is a bigger challenge. You see, not many people has the experienced to handle this operation, and may you have to hire an expert to do the job with an added expenses.

In addition, educating people could also be a way out to enlighten users about rampaging scammers and fraudulent activities on the crypto community. We are required to be very vigilant at all time.
Eliminating fraudsters is something that is difficult or even impossible, I prefer to prioritize methods such as education, this is the method that I think is most effective.

If we realize that people who are deceived are people who usually do not know so they are easily manipulated and end up doing anything that they should not do. If they know that it is wrong and will cause harm, then they will not do it.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2025, 05:32:32 AM »
Ok guys so you know all those fake websites that pop around making people send transactions to the addresses in those sites and then lose their money?

I just thought of a way to stop those kind of things.

First you have to go through every registered domain and see which ones resolved from there you need to see which ones match heuristics that determine if it's one of those "fake websites" or phishing sites or not. Probably using an AI tool.

Then you need to get a database of exploits to use against those websites, hack them, and replace the scammers' address with a brand new address from a wallet you make. It works because most scammers buy very vulnerable site templates.

Then you'd form a company, perhaps in the USA, that specifically is for returning people's lost money. Make partnerships with regulators and all the blockchain investigators including ZachXBT so that victims who ask them for help are put in contact with you.

Then you can refund their stolen crypto like that. Perhaps keep a 5% commission in order to continue to finance scammed funds recovery. The scammers are left out of pocket (because they paid for websites), and will go out of business.

So? What do you guys think? Admitting it's hard, but a determined person can create such a setup.

This is a quite interesting point of view, just that one must be an expert to be able to handle this situation. Every human has a purpose of doing something, and inviting a third party, who might not have same knowledge or idea, might end up doing the opposite. This will help very well if only an expert or a hacktivist can take this upon himself.

One thing about these scam and phishing sites is that the developers or those behind the idea, will always want to come up with new ideas, so as to keep doing that which they do. The only way out, I will say is to be careful on your personal funds and transactions. It's hard to keep track of scam sites, but being mindful of activities carried out within the site when it comes to funds, will help reduce the risk of losing money.
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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2025, 05:43:14 AM »
Busting down the scammers sure sounds good, however - it would need lots of capital and determination, as you said.
Maybe said organization could make other moves, such as just educating people on the side of things, just so that there would be fewer cases to work with.
Other than that - great idea.

And besides the time consumed, capital intensive and determination as you explained, the experiences required to carry out this operation is a bigger challenge. You see, not many people has the experienced to handle this operation, and may you have to hire an expert to do the job with an added expenses.

In addition, educating people could also be a way out to enlighten users about rampaging scammers and fraudulent activities on the crypto community. We are required to be very vigilant at all time.
Eliminating fraudsters is something that is difficult or even impossible, I prefer to prioritize methods such as education, this is the method that I think is most effective.

If we realize that people who are deceived are people who usually do not know so they are easily manipulated and end up doing anything that they should not do. If they know that it is wrong and will cause harm, then they will not do it.

Educative methods of enlightening the people in the crypto community will be the very best way to reduce the scam victims in the community. On the process of educating people in this crypto community, setting up surveys for them, can also help in some ways. As explained above regarding time consummation, capital intensive and determination can end up to nothing when the people have no idea on how these scammers appear or how they operate.

I will say, the very best way to reduce scam victims is using the educative method, scammers and phishing websites cannot be stopped, rather their harms to the uneducated masses can be reduced in the crypto community.
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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2025, 10:38:22 AM »
These are my thoughts in stopping scams. It always starts with awareness and education. If we are aware of how scams works because we are well educated or we know how things works then they cannot trick us. We should know how to identify people that are red flags like those who giving fake giveaways or phishing attacks. Also we must have strong security measures like 2fa, hardware wallets and verifying sources before we invest to prevent losses. Lastly, if we know they are real scams then we must do actions, report and expose scammers by sharing warning to different social medias or forums or authorities to protect others to become a victim.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2025, 10:53:55 AM »
Eliminating fraudsters is something that is difficult or even impossible, I prefer to prioritize methods such as education, this is the method that I think is most effective.

If we realize that people who are deceived are people who usually do not know so they are easily manipulated and end up doing anything that they should not do. If they know that it is wrong and will cause harm, then they will not do it.

The main thing is to stay responsible and aware of the dangers the internet and some places have. That would be 95% resistance to some of the scams out there, as well as to be careful.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2025, 11:19:42 AM »
Looks exciting to hack the scammers sites but even if it is for good reason, it might violate cyber security laws in many countries. I think the better approach is to work with blockchain security firms, post awareness in forums like this forum and similar and use AI to detect and report the scammers. The idea of scam recovery firm is solid but quit tricky. hehe ;D

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2025, 11:17:30 PM »
Then you'd form a company, perhaps in the USA, that specifically is for returning people's lost money. Make partnerships with regulators and all the blockchain investigators including ZachXBT so that victims who ask them for help are put in contact with you.
Scammers are always a step ahead and that's why they keep getting to their victims. Reading this paragraph, I can only think of those scammers who claim to help scam victims recover stolen coins, yet end up taking more money from the victims for jobs they won't deliver. Some prospective scammers would learn new methods from this ;D

@op, your idea is a smart one only for those who understand how to do it.  Others who know nothing or very little things about tech will find it difficult putting this your idea into practice. Best they can do for themselves is to confirm links and sites thoroughly before using them. Scammers won't stop, they earning a living from making people cry.
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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2025, 11:34:20 PM »
Your ideas are valuable but i think it is possible to get rid of scam or to get a scam money from the law of a country. Suppose if you are a victim of scamming by a different country scammer then how can i get the money back? There are many country do not have crypto legal in so the government of that country may not help you.
The best way is to be aware of ourselves and not to pay money for anyone who believes in this crypto online. Moreover, identifying fraudulent emails, phishing, social engineering, and disguise and protect yourself from everything. Of course avoid activities that are at risk of your funds.
I think almost all countries do not have rules on how to handle fraud in the crypto world, especially if they are anonymous. However, if there is clear data and the ID is there, we can take care of it. Of course with a long process according to the country.
It's better to be careful, because there are many frauds there with fake IDs so it's hard to detect.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #40 on: February 26, 2025, 08:02:30 AM »
Preventing fraud is tough but there are steps I can take to stay safer. Stronger ID verification can help block fake accounts and blockchain technology can make transactions more secure. AI can detect suspicious activity early and If I report scams quickly, it can protect others too. The most important thing is education–learning how to spot scams before falling for them. With the right knowledge and tools, I can help make the internet a safer place for everyone.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2025, 01:19:34 PM »
Eliminating fraudsters is something that is difficult or even impossible, I prefer to prioritize methods such as education, this is the method that I think is most effective.

If we realize that people who are deceived are people who usually do not know so they are easily manipulated and end up doing anything that they should not do. If they know that it is wrong and will cause harm, then they will not do it.

The main thing is to stay responsible and aware of the dangers the internet and some places have. That would be 95% resistance to some of the scams out there, as well as to be careful.
And that alertness requires a good understanding or knowledge. Because it is impossible for us to be alert if we do not know the basics, we will assume everything is safe.

Now it is actually easier to detect fraudsters, because there are many people who share their experiences of how they ended up getting scammed. And that is very valuable as a lesson for us.

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2025, 01:45:11 PM »
Then you need to get a database of exploits to use against those websites, hack them, and replace the scammers' address with a brand new address from a wallet you make. It works because most scammers buy very vulnerable site templates.


This is probably ilegal. And you will become also a criminal in the eyes of the law. Making your situation more complicated. Only government agencies can legally do that to websites.

       -       I didn't think that other communities here could be criminals for doing what op said, though, I agreed with what op did because I thought it could really help.
But not expecting that like you say it's illegal.

Since I'm not a techy person, maybe it's better to be careful and not just do something that could harm us in the future.
But did op mate also think about what you're saying?

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2025, 04:12:20 AM »
Busting down the scammers sure sounds good, however - it would need lots of capital and determination, as you said.
Maybe said organization could make other moves, such as just educating people on the side of things, just so that there would be fewer cases to work with.
Other than that - great idea.

And besides the time consumed, capital intensive and determination as you explained, the experiences required to carry out this operation is a bigger challenge. You see, not many people has the experienced to handle this operation, and may you have to hire an expert to do the job with an added expenses.

In addition, educating people could also be a way out to enlighten users about rampaging scammers and fraudulent activities on the crypto community. We are required to be very vigilant at all time.
If plan A is difficult then plan B can be used, by disciplining and always providing socialization about new fraud modes in the crypto world, it can also be more efficient in overcoming fraud, and being more self-aware of anything related to money and the links that are spread, this is just my opinion

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Re: I have an idea on how to stop scams
« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2025, 12:23:42 PM »
Busting down the scammers sure sounds good, however - it would need lots of capital and determination, as you said.
Maybe said organization could make other moves, such as just educating people on the side of things, just so that there would be fewer cases to work with.
Other than that - great idea.

And besides the time consumed, capital intensive and determination as you explained, the experiences required to carry out this operation is a bigger challenge. You see, not many people has the experienced to handle this operation, and may you have to hire an expert to do the job with an added expenses.

In addition, educating people could also be a way out to enlighten users about rampaging scammers and fraudulent activities on the crypto community. We are required to be very vigilant at all time.
If plan A is difficult then plan B can be used, by disciplining and always providing socialization about new fraud modes in the crypto world, it can also be more efficient in overcoming fraud, and being more self-aware of anything related to money and the links that are spread, this is just my opinion
If you are really just that new into this market or whatever things that you would be gonna tending to deal with, then it is always been that advisable that you should really be gonna try out to check various informations and other real time experiences and feedbacks from the community on a certain thing on which if you do have plans on trying out to deal up with something and if its really that too good to be true then its most likely or definitely a scam and this is where you should really be that aking yourself be wary at least because if you've been that making yourself that being impulsive and agreesive towards money making then you will definitely be ending up on getting hooked up with these potential frauds and causes up that huge amount of money to lose.

 

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