RUSSIA and the west

[target]

It would be unfair to say it's only Russia delivering propaganda to the public. The West has all the propaganda as well. We are all receiving these propaganda while people are not believing everything that comes from Russia, they are also not believing the news from Europe and US.

Every people today knows how to investigate truth. If Russia is just as the terrorist you are saying, they will not be supported by different countries.

The European countries are aware that US are buying products from Russia while these European countries are sanctioned not to buy from Russia. So pushing EU to go war against Russia will have a long deliberation between officials.

[bitterguy28]

Every people today knows how to investigate truth. If Russia is just as the terrorist you are saying, they will not be supported by different countries.

countries do not play moral police

a country could not care less if another country is unlawfully terrorizing another country as long as that benefits them especially the us they have multiple military bases in different countries in different regions and they will help any country if it fits their agenda we need to realize that any government will put their personal political interest before any other country

they will even help spread propaganda if it helped them

[0t3p0t]

Seems tensions in Europe is getting much more bigger than before and innocent civillians are the most affected in these type things the sanctions and wars. What could be the best solution for this that the violators would be put in justice and then sanctions were lifted? Is it really war the solution to officially achieve peace? This is a never ending war unless one has to find a way to cut i's greediness. Communists and the West must stop or else we will experience nuclear winter.

[DrBeer]

Seems tensions in Europe is getting much more bigger than before and innocent civillians are the most affected in these type things the sanctions and wars. What could be the best solution for this that the violators would be put in justice and then sanctions were lifted? Is it really war the solution to officially achieve peace? This is a never ending war unless one has to find a way to cut i's greediness. Communists and the West must stop or else we will experience nuclear winter.

That people who are not the perpetrators of the war suffer as a consequence of the war is a fact. Unfortunately, the world is very strongly integrated and interdependent, so if one “node” begins to behave criminally - many people around them feel it.... But let's return to the essence of your answer. I answer as a citizen of Ukraine, who directly observes what Russia has been doing in Ukraine since 2014. “This is a never ending war unless one has to find a way to cut i's greediness.” - tell me - why then in 1945, Germany was essentially destroyed, and not “curbed greediness” and stopped, for example, somewhere on the borders of Moscow ?   I will answer you - because such regimes DO NOT STOP. And as proof - I recommend to listen and watch the official information channels of the Kremlin, where for many years the narrative “after Ukraine, we will regain the Baltic States, then we will go to Europe and return everything as it was before in the Soviet times” has been carried to the masses. And it's not alcoholics on the street who are boasting - it's OFFICIAL persons and representatives of the Kremlin authorities. To make it even clearer, and this seems to me to be the best example, “stopping” such a war is the same as stopping treatment of a cancer patient, saying “medicines only make it worse, if you don't treat it, it won't develop. Don't do anything and you will live well” Do you want to know how it will end? I think you know very well how it ends. Today “Russian world” is a cancer of the modern world, as unpleasant as it sounds.

[Zed0X]

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The European countries are aware that US are buying products from Russia while these European countries are sanctioned not to buy from Russia. So pushing EU to go war against Russia will have a long deliberation between officials.

Ironic isn't it? It's similar to the US Government demonizing and antagonizing China but American businessmen are also trading with them. On the EU countries, it's still every man for himself that will win at the end of the day. No coalition could stop the brunt of their hungry citizens.

Your comment also reminded me of the Nord Stream pipelines that were bombed. Several investigations points out it's sabotaged and an arrest warrant was also issued against a suspected Ukranian national. There are speculations that what happened is connected to a US Government agency.

[target]

 
There have been many investigation about Nord Stream 2. The Germans have their own investigation, the Russian and the US have their own investigation. All are circumstantial. But one thing is to be answered is who benefits when it's destroyed?

Russia and Germany spent billions for it to be built. So why destroy it when they both were at peace before the so called invassion started? The Nord Stream 1 is still operational by the way.

Both sides has a lot propaganda but it all boils down to who desperately needs money.

[rachael9385]

I think Russians are over doing in there actions, maybe they feel too powerful and I don't know if they are trying to drag a 3rd world war. There is no day someone would come online and hear any good news about this country always fight, conflict and violence are they not thinking of the effects that may have on their citizens and even the country. I haven't heard of a case where the English men are involved in, well I can't tell if I would have an effect or not but england is one of the biggest countries in Europe.

[DrBeer]

I think Russians are over doing in there actions, maybe they feel too powerful and I don't know if they are trying to drag a 3rd world war. There is no day someone would come online and hear any good news about this country always fight, conflict and violence are they not thinking of the effects that may have on their citizens and even the country. I haven't heard of a case where the English men are involved in, well I can't tell if I would have an effect or not but england is one of the biggest countries in Europe.

The reason that Russia launched a terrorist war in Ukraine in 2022 is very trivial.... By attacking Ukraine in 2014 (this is the date of the war, not 2022), Russia violated all international agreements related to the security of Ukraine, ignored rules and rights, and decided to show everyone that it is “above everyone else”.  At the same time, the silent behavior of the Western world and the world in general, during the period since 2014, when Russia occupied part of Ukraine (Crimea, part of Luhansk and Donetsk regions), gave Russia an excuse to think that all this will go unpunished, and the world will continue to be “soft and cowardly”. If tough sanctions and isolation of Russia and large-scale military and financial aid to Ukraine had been imposed since 2014, we would have already forgotten about this problem....

PS Impunity breeds permissiveness

[JoyMarsha]

How many sanctions did the west placed on Russia that will affect it's economy?

They can't stop Russia from rising up because they have resources to be economic power due to their fuel supply. And they have BRICS that the West can't isolate anymore. It's not possible to make unlike before.

But what does England have that Russia would need?

No one remembers again if Russia was once sanctioned ever before because they are waxing strong and keep wagging war on Ukraine soil.

It's like the sanction didn't in any way affect their economy, or have them beg for the lift of their sanction because it is affecting them economically and otherwise.

I remember years ago during the heat of the sanction given to Russia, everyone thought the sanctions given is going to affect them, but here they are today standing firm and unshaken about the US

[0t3p0t]

Seems Russia and other sanctioned countries are now eyeing to get involved in Bitcoin investments as what president Putin descirbe as the west is weaponizing the dollar so they have no choice but to create their own currency like BRICS but since president Trump is trying to intensify trade wars and tariffs if those countries will insist so maybe Bitcoin would be their best choice.

[DrBeer]

Remember this post, it will be the best proof that russia is a “paper tiger bear”
Very soon, in “great Russia, which is not affected by sanctions”, food cards* will be introduced for the population. First in small regions, then it will become a systemic solution to “nonexistent problems in an economy that is developing”.

ration cards* - a minimum limited set of food products, due to the weak and falling into the abyss economy, when the population can not get the minimum necessary set for survival.

[DrBeer]

And I will add one more indicator that will confirm that “everything is good with the economy in Russia”
Freezing the money deposits of the population in banks to finance the terrorist war. Just the other day someone from the government of a terrorist country said about it, or rather that it will not happen. But as we already know - if the Kremlin liars say “it won't happen” - then it definitely will. Judging by the indicators and hysterics in the Kremlin's koloirs - it is highly likely to happen in the 1-2 quarter of 2025. Probably it will be presented not as “freezing of deposits” but as “temporary blocking of funds to preserve the income of citizens”.

[DrBeer]

After the power from the soft-hearted Democrats passed to the pragmatic and quite cynical Republicans - the process of preparing the electorate for the new vector has begun in Russia, and through propaganda I start to put new narratives into their heads - “love the USA”, “the USA has always been our friend”, “we don't obey their orders - we just wanted it that way ourselves”, “the tsar is not weak, the tsar wanted it himself”, .....
And believe me - in a couple of months, the crowd that yesterday squealed with joy at the words “hit the US with a nuclear missile”, tomorrow will be kissing the US flag in a hickey! The slave system is convenient for under-furrers - the ruler tells you who to love and who to hate and you will change your opinion exactly as long as the ruler needs 

[bitterguy28]

Seems Russia and other sanctioned countries are now eyeing to get involved in Bitcoin investments as what president Putin descirbe as the west is weaponizing the dollar so they have no choice but to create their own currency like BRICS but since president Trump is trying to intensify trade wars and tariffs if those countries will insist

trump does not even sound that threatened by brics and honestly i also can't tell what would brics be able to do to affect the us dollar they seem to have not come up with just one currency that would unite them all and could replace the us dollar at the same time each of them would want to push the currency of their own country

so maybe Bitcoin would be their best choice.

but it is not theirs though it is no one's and everyone's at the same time you can own a bitcoin or more but no one can own the entire bitcoin network i do not know if brics would be okay dethroning the us dollar with a currency that is not issued by any of their central banks

[DrBeer]

Seems Russia and other sanctioned countries are now eyeing to get involved in Bitcoin investments as what president Putin descirbe as the west is weaponizing the dollar so they have no choice but to create their own currency like BRICS but since president Trump is trying to intensify trade wars and tariffs if those countries will insist so maybe Bitcoin would be their best choice.

The idea of a single BRICS currency, was a failure. At the first stage, China wanted to do it by “pushing” the yuan as a settlement currency within BRICS, the second failure was at BRICS2024, when Russia insisted on the development and launch of a single BRICS currency with almost mandatory dedollarization. The idea was not supported by the majority of countries, which do not live in an alternative reality, and do not violate international laws, and at the same time realize that they need to interact with the rest of the developed world, international settlements in the economy of which are based on SWIFT.