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Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum related => Topic started by: dragononcrypto on September 11, 2024, 10:43:04 PM
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This is the voting count thread for the senator election 2024: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=324261.0
Previous senator election voting count in 2021: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=188487.0
Please discuss votes and candidates in this topic only.
Candidate* (points) --- Votes for candidates (points). Links indicate what candidates are proposing for the forum.
Jokers (53) --- dragononcrypto (3), Learn Bitcoin (3), epidemia (1), examplens (3), klarki (3), Lucius (1), bitmover (1), heyod hewow (3), NikeFit_7777 (3), paid2 (1), JISAN (1), Husna QA (1), tvplus006 (3), bisdak40 (3), TomPluz (3), fgh (3), ABCbits (1), Smartprofit (3), dwyane36 (3), sampoerna (3), vegasus (1), julerz12 (1), Cordillerabit (1), hair (1)
bitmover (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=324267.msg1625618#msg1625618) (52) --- admin (3), Agbe (3), Lucius (3), Aanuoluwatofunmi (1), paid2 (3), trendcoin (3), JISAN (3), Husna QA (3), bisdak40 (3), TomPluz (1), ABCbits (3), dwyane36 (1), icopress(3), dkbit98(3), sampoerna (1), PX-Z (3), Hamza2424 (1), BitMaxz (3), Crypto Library (3), SamReomo (1), Freemind (3), examplens (1), yhiaali3 (3)
hugeblack (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=324267.msg1627974#msg1627974) (20) --- Agbe (1), Aanuoluwatofunmi (3), philipma1957 (4), icopress (1), PX-Z (1), bhadz (1), Themepen (1), julerz12 (3), BitMaxz (1), Crypto Library (1), SamReomo (3)
examplens (11) --- dragononcrypto (1), Learn Bitcoin (1), yhiaali3 (1), bitmover (3), hugeblack (4), Freemind (1)
PX-Z (8) --- KingsDen(3), dkbit98 (1), bhadz (3), admin (1)
NikeFit_7777 (6) --- epidemia (3), Cordillerabit (3)
Klarki (4) --- NikeFit_7777 (1), tvplus006 (1), fgh (1), Smartprofit (1)
Freemind** (3) --- hair (3)
Themepen (3) --- Hamza2424 (3)
Husna QA (3) --- vegasus (3)
Hamza2424 (3) --- Themepen (3)
tvplus006 (1) --- heyod hewow (1)
paid2 (1) --- trendcoin (1)
*To add new candidates to this list, vote for new candidates.
**Becomes senator after presidential term
Updated 12:00 GMT September 17th
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What is the point of Senators role? And what is the deadline for making votes and announcing voting results?
You should also explain in simple terms what powers and responsibility Senatores have in AltcoinsTalks forum.
I hope it's not like in ancient Rome, you know they killed Julius Caesar ;)
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Seriously? You're just asking questions that have already mainly been answered already...
Question:
What is the point of Senators role?
Answer:
The senate is where senators discuss and vote on changes and improvements to be implemented in the forum by admin.
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And what is the deadline for making votes and announcing voting results?
Answer
- Voting ends in 1 week.
Question:
You should also explain in simple terms what powers and responsibility Senatores have in AltcoinsTalks forum.
Answer:
Senators make decisions based on how to manage the forum with a responsibility to represent those who elected them.
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The senate is where senators discuss and vote on changes and improvements to be implemented in the forum by admin.
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Senators make decisions based on how to manage the forum with a responsibility to represent those who elected them.
Is this always true? How about the timeframe of every voted changes from elected, Is it always followed? Or its always depends on the admin if when it will implemented.
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If I can suggest it should be an odd number so 13 members is better (assuming admin/president doesn't have the right to vote as a senator)
Since there are 3 (or 4) members to be elected it is better to suggest names in this thread and start voting based on the list of candidates.
Voting is done by positive and negative points (you can vote for 3 or 4 members whether negative or positive)
Set a rule to prevent conflict of interest.
Finally:
It will be easy to circumvent the current rules.
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Must I list 2 people?
May I vote for myself?
If I list 2 people can it be the same person twice?
When does voting end? Found this answer Sept18th
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And most important: senate can block decisions i make and keep the forum more democratic.
And most important: senate can block decisions i make and keep the forum more democratic.
This sound great to me, I guess the forum is for the people a d admin have taken the right steps in running this forum, kudos to you admin and let see how the admin work together for the improvement of the forum.
I will sure cast my vote pretty soon may be I will edit this comment with my vote
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I feel a bit embarrassed to ask this, but where are the list of candidates?
Is this like a normal election where there's a ballot of the list of members that you should be choosing from, or is this a free-for-all where you can vote for anyone?
PS. If it's the latter, then obvious steps of course have to be taken to make that newbies, spammers, etc. do not qualify for the senate.
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This question is from another thread by Phil;
Can someone vote for themself? Can someone give two votes to the same user?
I have a friendly suggestion: It would be good if you did not allow edit votes once they are done. If someone wants to change their vote, they should delete their previous vote (if they cannot do it themselves, they should report to delete the post) and write a new post. Moreover, do we have a list of candidates? Or can people vote for whoever they want? If voters have a minimum rank limit, I guess the candidates should also have a rank limit.
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Have updated OP with current list of votes, with update periodically. Translations of election post for local sections is otherwise appreciated.
Must I list 2 people?
May I vote for myself?
If I list 2 people can it be the same person twice?
Just follow the election rules. Does it say you have to list 2 people? Does it say you can't vote for yourself? Does it say you can't vote twice for the same candidate?
I feel a bit embarrassed to ask this, but where are the list of candidates?
Is this like a normal election where there's a ballot of the list of members that you should be choosing from, or is this a free-for-all where you can vote for anyone?
No list of candidates. If any elected candidates refuse the position then the position will be given to the next candidate with the highest votes.
PS. If it's the latter, then obvious steps of course have to be taken to make that newbies, spammers, etc. do not qualify for the senate.
Should go without saying that these candidates are not eligible for the senate.
I have a friendly suggestion: It would be good if you did not allow edit votes once they are done. If someone wants to change their vote, they should delete their previous vote (if they cannot do it themselves, they should report to delete the post) and write a new post.
That wouldn't work. I'm keeping an update of votes, so if users edit their post to include a new vote it will be not be counted.
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Have updated OP with current list of votes, with update periodically. Translations of election post for local sections is otherwise appreciated.
Must I list 2 people?
May I vote for myself?
If I list 2 people can it be the same person twice?
Just follow the election rules. Does it say you have to list 2 people? Does it say you can't vote for yourself? Does it say you can't vote twice for the same candidate?
I feel a bit embarrassed to ask this, but where are the list of candidates?
Is this like a normal election where there's a ballot of the list of members that you should be choosing from, or is this a free-for-all where you can vote for anyone?
No list of candidates. If any elected candidates refuse the position then the position will be given to the next candidate with the highest votes.
PS. If it's the latter, then obvious steps of course have to be taken to make that newbies, spammers, etc. do not qualify for the senate.
Should go without saying that these candidates are not eligible for the senate.
I have a friendly suggestion: It would be good if you did not allow edit votes once they are done. If someone wants to change their vote, they should delete their previous vote (if they cannot do it themselves, they should report to delete the post) and write a new post.
That wouldn't work. I'm keeping an update of votes, so if users edit their post to include a new vote it will be not be counted.
good I was curious so I will likely vote today
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Nice to stumble on this thread. I have been seeing senators badge in the forum, not knowing that it is an elective position. I had thought that one needs to burn some ALTT coin to get it. LOL
I remember I congratulated Jokers few days ago for his promotion as a global mod, is it nice for mods to double as senators?
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Why aren't the candidates allowed to present their programs first, what exactly do they plan to do if they are elected... Some open debates... People should know who they are voting for and why. ;D
I voted a little too quickly, I only saw later that senators can have a significant influence on the development of the forum and the implementation of new things. I'd rather see bitmover here instead of Jokers, he showed more commitment to that in the previous period. However, the others made up for it, so it seems to be going in the right direction. ;)
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I voted a little too quickly, I only saw later that senators can have a significant influence on the development of the forum and the implementation of new things. I'd rather see bitmover here instead of Jokers, he showed more commitment to that in the previous period. However, the others made up for it, so it seems to be going in the right direction. ;)
This validates Phil's concern that votes should be edited, which I strongly support. One should be able to change their votes till the last day of votes collection. Anything less than this could be going against Freedom of voting.
If we are talking about development of the forum, there's a user who has tried alongside bitmover in this aspect, I think his username is PX-Z.
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Why aren't the candidates allowed to present their programs first, what exactly do they plan to do if they are elected... Some open debates... People should know who they are voting for and why. ;D
Senate, as far as I understand, can vote and discuss forum changes before they are implemented.
I think they can also make proposals for forum changes.
If I can, I will try to make a proposal for a forum boards organization.
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Why aren't the candidates allowed to present their programs first, what exactly do they plan to do if they are elected... Some open debates... People should know who they are voting for and why. ;D
Voters should already be aware of proposals that have been made in the suggestion box. I did suggest this idea before ironically but scrapped it as it would just take longer and delay the election. Also in general reps say what they will do if elected, and rarely fulfil such promises, so better to go on what candidates have already proposed and supported, rather than what they say they will I think. You were otherwise welcome to appeal to voters with your proposals in this thread, as bitmover has done above, I will link the posts for you from the count in OP.
I voted a little too quickly, I only saw later that senators can have a significant influence on the development of the forum and the implementation of new things. I'd rather see bitmover here instead of Jokers, he showed more commitment to that in the previous period. However, the others made up for it, so it seems to be going in the right direction. ;)
This validates Phil's concern that votes should be edited, which I strongly support. One should be able to change their votes till the last day of votes collection. Anything less than this could be going against Freedom of voting.
If we are talking about development of the forum, there's a user who has tried alongside bitmover in this aspect, I think his username is PX-Z.
I'm not going to cross-reference every vote to check it still stands when updating the count, this would just be a massive waste of my time.
"you made your bed now lie in it" otherwise comes to mind here, rather than freedom of voting ;)
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Voted, but I have no idea if those senators will listen anything we as a members say and I don't even know about ideas they have, maybe they can go rouge and remove the admin from power.
I think maybe we rushed things with voting, I would first ask for potential candidates if they would accept the job, and than have longer voting process, not just one week.
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Voted, but I have no idea if those senators will listen anything we as a members say and I don't even know about ideas they have, maybe they can go rouge and remove the admin from power.
I think maybe we rushed things with voting, I would first ask for potential candidates if they would accept the job, and than have longer voting process, not just one week.
Voting admin out of power will be tricky if not possible, overturning his recent decisions on quality index should be less difficult :P
In the past all candidates have accepted the role, as it is an honour to be elected as a senator, so there should be few concerns here.
Similar to 2021 election voting process is one week, as is based on the most active users. Not those who visit for the forum less than weekly...
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I think maybe we rushed things with voting, I would first ask for potential candidates if they would accept the job, and than have longer voting process, not just one week.
Many initiatives have been launched around the arrangement of the forum, changes or proposals for the implementation of some useful things. Unfortunately, there was always too little response from other users. It's as if most of them only come to leave a few posts and are not interested in anything else.
We should probably have a better system for notifying users when some important things are being discussed.
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Voted, but I have no idea if those senators will listen anything we as a members say and I don't even know about ideas they have, maybe they can go rouge and remove the admin from power.
I think maybe we rushed things with voting, I would first ask for potential candidates if they would accept the job, and than have longer voting process, not just one week.
haha a revolt already ...
The senate is another element of the power share ... this power share is not ideal between president, me and the senate , but it is still way better than almost any other forum.
and with time things improve ... they say Rome was not built in 1 day.
The senate have a an important role, voting on proposals, overturning decisions (mine, or even the president's) and discussing important aspects of the forum, or even resolving major issues and conflicts within closed doors.
They are usually voted because of their character not their program,
just take a look at the top 2 most voted, you'll know these guys really put a lot of heart to help the community
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Many initiatives have been launched around the arrangement of the forum, changes or proposals for the implementation of some useful things. Unfortunately, there was always too little response from other users. It's as if most of them only come to leave a few posts and are not interested in anything else.
We should probably have a better system for notifying users when some important things are being discussed.
Didn't you see the new blog news website made by admin? He is multitasking and working on other stuff ;)
I am not expecting to see big changes after new senators get elected, but at least we could blame them later and ask for new senators.
Democracy works right?
Right?? :o
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Unfortunately I still have a full member ranking, maybe if I have reached a senior member will choose "Husna QA" because he is an active member to reply to my post on the local board and "PX-Z" from global subforum. Thank
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I am not expecting to see big changes after new senators get elected, but at least we could blame them later and ask for new senators.
Democracy works right?
Right?? :o
There is a huge difference in understanding the forum between natives here and teleported members. Hopefully, bitmover could bring in some fresh blood and shake things up if elected.
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Many initiatives have been launched around the arrangement of the forum, changes or proposals for the implementation of some useful things. Unfortunately, there was always too little response from other users. It's as if most of them only come to leave a few posts and are not interested in anything else.
We should probably have a better system for notifying users when some important things are being discussed.
Didn't you see the new blog news website made by admin? He is multitasking and working on other stuff ;)
for the record, i have always multitasked and worked on other stuff.
but also changes requested by the community were often executed,
unless these changer require code modification, in this case, there is a list of needed changes that need to wait because:
coding a new functionality is not easy,
it requires me to block several days if not more,
and when it works there are often conflicts with other parts of the code that are not identified easily, and that create a mess later on to fix.
currently on the test version of the site, there are several changes that are being tested, and only few might eventually make it to the live site.
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concerning the news site, it's a strategic long term plan, that is essential for the forum growth (yes, i do sometimes do long term planning :o)
once all the elements of the puzzle will be placed, it might make more sense.
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There is a huge difference in understanding the forum between natives here and teleported members.
Not exactly sure what you mean by this, but this could just be due to time on the forum which gains experience. For example around 90% of the questions in Basic questions about the forum section (coming from recently teleported members) have been asked many times before over the years. The only reason "native" members don't ask them anymore is because they know the answer by now. Personally I've noticed the distinct difference in understanding from members this year compared to previous ones, which reflects the influx of new members.
That said there is still a lot of cleaning up needed to help members with understanding the forum, this was probably better structured and organised in previous years if I'm honest. A lot of info topics have stood up to the test of time, but others are simply outdated or there is newer info available which contradicts a previous topic, so this can often lead to confusion. I've made a start on updating where needed but there is a lot more needed to be done imo. Ideally someone would assist with from more of an "outside" perspective and point to topics that require updates (ie pinned topics by admin, or my own for example) as don't even know where to start anymore. The forum token topics remain the biggest mess of them all, with old and new token information contradicting each other etc.
Hopefully, bitmover could bring in some fresh blood and shake things up if elected.
This is never a bad thing, fresh blood is always good to bring about fresh initiatives, even if the senate will remain majority older members. As admin also elaborated on there have been numerous changes made to the forum since it's creation (some through the senate, others via suggestion box), so it's understandable that newer members aren't aware of this. There have probably been less changes this year than previous ones which might misrepresent the situation a bit here.
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There is a huge difference in understanding the forum between natives here and teleported members.
Not exactly sure what you mean by this, but this could just be due to time on the forum which gains experience.
I meant other things like disrespecting and not understanding the forum rules. So 9 out of 10 cases of spam, multiaccounting, abusing karma etc... come from old Altt users, not from Teleported.
Also, participation in signature campaigns, complaints of 'why wasn't I accepted', as well as a complete lack of understanding of the essence of the campaign and what is expected of the participants. It's certainly not just a number.
That said there is still a lot of cleaning up needed to help members with understanding the forum, this was probably better structured and organised in previous years if I'm honest. A lot of info topics have stood up to the test of time, but others are simply outdated or there is newer info available which contradicts a previous topic, so this can often lead to confusion.
I believe that many teleported members will agree with me (now I sound like a true senator ;)), but the arrangement of the forum is too complicated for such a small community.
Not to repeat myself, but, there are too many similar boards and subboards, which are mostly dedicated to bounty and general discussion, with an obvious desire to raise the quality, but through various badges.
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There is a huge difference in understanding the forum between natives here and teleported members.
Not exactly sure what you mean by this, but this could just be due to time on the forum which gains experience.
I meant other things like disrespecting and not understanding the forum rules. So 9 out of 10 cases of spam, multiaccounting, abusing karma etc... come from old Altt users, not from Teleported.
I agree that teleported members are better quality users compared to original members, due to better understanding general forum etiquette, bounties, etc, there's no doubt about that.
But otherwise it's the newer members that have always lacked a deeper understanding of the forum, and this year that comes from teleported members it seems.
I believe that many teleported members will agree with me (now I sound like a true senator ;)), but the arrangement of the forum is too complicated for such a small community.
Not to repeat myself, but, there are too many similar boards and subboards, which are mostly dedicated to bounty and general discussion, with an obvious desire to raise the quality, but through various badges.
Not just teleported members, but older members too. There has been broad agreement in the senate about this problem hence changes have been made in the past to improve it.
I also think it will be easier in the senate to make these changes, as long as proposals are simple and well structured as they have been in the past. For example by breaking up more complicated or detailed proposals into parts so senators can agree/disagree on say 1-10 suggestions without having to support or reject an entire proposal for restructuring. So for example:
1. Merge these child boards into the parent board
2. Merge this section with that section
3. Move this section to this that category
Then senators are able to vote yes/no on the proposals one by one. The problem with a full blown proposal to restructure the forum is that there will always be counter-proposals, additions to the proposal, disagreements within the proposal, and it becomes a messy job trying to understand the support for different parts of the proposal without making notes. This is what I call the "noise of the suggestion box" which otherwise is usually avoided in the senate by having less participants in each discussion orientated around voting.
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I meant other things like disrespecting and not understanding the forum rules. So 9 out of 10 cases of spam, multiaccounting, abusing karma etc... come from old Altt users, not from Teleported.
Also, participation in signature campaigns, complaints of 'why wasn't I accepted', as well as a complete lack of understanding of the essence of the campaign and what is expected of the participants. It's certainly not just a number.
I think a big point here is that the managers also teleported. So we are basically seeing the campaigns from btt here. We are used to those managers and campaigns, especific forum etiquette, etc , they are not..
That said there is still a lot of cleaning up needed to help members with understanding the forum, this was probably better structured and organised in previous years if I'm honest. A lot of info topics have stood up to the test of time, but others are simply outdated or there is newer info available which contradicts a previous topic, so this can often lead to confusion.
I believe that many teleported members will agree with me (now I sound like a true senator ;)), but the arrangement of the forum is too complicated for such a small community.
Not to repeat myself, but, there are too many similar boards and subboards, which are mostly dedicated to bounty and general discussion, with an obvious desire to raise the quality, but through various badges.
I will do my best to make this voice be heard, if elected.
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@dragononcrypto, there is a small error in point counting. My first vote was for the Jokers, which should have given him three points. But on the OP, it seems you counted one point from me. So, I request you look into it when you have time.
I think a big point here is that the managers also teleported. So we are basically seeing the campaigns from btt here. We are used to those managers and campaigns, especific forum etiquette, etc , they are not..
Even though the teleported members are familiar with and used to with the campaign managers, we have seen an argument from a teleported member lately against the manager, which created drama in this and the other forums. So, it's not just the old members of this forum. If people do not read the local rules of a thread and then start arguments, they deserve negative karma. But if someone has a valid point, that is something else.
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@dragononcrypto, there is a small error in point counting. My first vote was for the Jokers, which should have given him three points. But on the OP, it seems you counted one point from me. So, I request you look into it when you have time.
Thanks, have corrected. Will check over votes again at end of election in case I made any other mistakes...
I meant other things like disrespecting and not understanding the forum rules. So 9 out of 10 cases of spam, multiaccounting, abusing karma etc... come from old Altt users, not from Teleported.
Also, participation in signature campaigns, complaints of 'why wasn't I accepted', as well as a complete lack of understanding of the essence of the campaign and what is expected of the participants. It's certainly not just a number.
I think a big point here is that the managers also teleported. So we are basically seeing the campaigns from btt here. We are used to those managers and campaigns, especific forum etiquette, etc , they are not..
Even though the teleported members are familiar with and used to with the campaign managers, we have seen an argument from a teleported member lately against the manager, which created drama in this and the other forums. So, it's not just the old members of this forum. If people do not read the local rules of a thread and then start arguments, they deserve negative karma. But if someone has a valid point, that is something else.
Just as a correction to the original point, 9/10 cases of spam/ai bots/plagiarism is coming from newer members of the forum (as in users that have received warnings or been punished, not just users reported which is a tiny percentage in comparison), as has always been the case. Granted multi-accounts has always been an issue with older members, but otherwise all of the recent karma abusers (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320003.msg1618074#msg1618074) were recently teleported, so there is that. To test this theory further based on "recently active users that have received a strike" - the usual yardstick - approximately half were newer users (signed up in past month or so, again as always). It's fair to assume that most of the newer users that have been misbehaving are "native" rather than teleported, but not much else here. The bottom line is most users misbehaving have always been the newer users who don't understand the rules or testing the limits of the rules, and not much has changed there either.
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There is a huge difference in understanding the forum between natives here and teleported members. Hopefully, bitmover could bring in some fresh blood and shake things up if elected.
Bitmover can move things here, bit move them 8)
Did anyone actually ask bitmover if he wants to accept the new senator role if he gets accepted elected by community?
for the record, i have always multitasked and worked on other stuff.
Luckily now you have a bunch of AI services to help you multitasking even more tasks now ;)
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Bitmover can move things here, bit move them 8)
Did anyone actually ask bitmover if he wants to accept the new senator role if he gets accepted elected by community?
Don't expect much from there. :(
You weren't online today, maybe you missed it, so let me guide you to some innovations here
We will have this on the home page (all that is left is to remove some bugs) https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=503.0
The decision is final, so the senators will only confirm it https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=324356.msg1627453#msg1627453
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Casted my votes and I hope that the senator who gets selected with majority of votes will play important role in improvement of the forum. I'm pretty sure that being a Senator is a quite hard role and the ones who gets higher votes will be the one who may perform those actions very well.
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Thanks to everyone who voted for me, but for personal reasons* I am withdrawing and fully supporting @examplens.
Based on the current voting results, congratulations to both @Jokers and @bitmover, I trust both of them and hope the forum will be a better place by the decisions they make or vote on.
I hope @examplens wins the remaining membership.
* this week I started my PhD and will be busy for the next 2-3 years, so my activity (both here and on BTT) will be severely affected in the coming months.
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Thanks to everyone who voted for me, but for personal reasons* I am withdrawing and fully supporting @examplens.
Based on the current voting results, congratulations to both @Jokers and @bitmover, I trust both of them and hope the forum will be a better place by the decisions they make or vote on.
I will do my best if elected. I dont even know what i can really do as a senator lol
* this week I started my PhD and will be busy for the next 2-3 years, so my activity (both here and on BTT) will be severely affected in the coming months.
Good luck in your PhD hugeblack! Is it going to be IT/crypto related?
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Thanks to everyone who voted for me, but for personal reasons* I am withdrawing and fully supporting @examplens.
Have striked your name and linked to this post so hopefully anyone else voting will see your message. Votes updated.
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this week I started my PhD and will be busy for the next 2-3 years, so my activity (both here and on BTT) will be severely affected in the coming months.[/size]
Support and good luck with your PhD, I hope you still find time for the crypto community.
btw. Thank you for your trust.
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this week I started my PhD and will be busy for the next 2-3 years, so my activity (both here and on BTT) will be severely affected in the coming months.
nice and congrats
in which domain if i may ask ?
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this week I started my PhD and will be busy for the next 2-3 years, so my activity (both here and on BTT) will be severely affected in the coming months.
congratulations man. I wish you all the best through out the programme. There will be no stress from lecturers and supervisors.
To the Admin, can we edit our votes since hugeblack has withdrawn from the contest?
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this week I started my PhD and will be busy for the next 2-3 years, so my activity (both here and on BTT) will be severely affected in the coming months.
congratulations man. I wish you all the best through out the programme. There will be no stress from lecturers and supervisors.
To the Admin, can we edit our votes since hugeblack has withdrawn from the contest?
I don't know, i also voted for him, we should ask president
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To the Admin, can we edit our votes since hugeblack has withdrawn from the contest?
I don't know, i also voted for him, we should ask president
For my part, there is no problem with users editing their votes to modify what they deem necessary.
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To the Admin, can we edit our votes since hugeblack has withdrawn from the contest?
I don't know, i also voted for him, we should ask president
For my part, there is no problem with users editing their votes to modify what they deem necessary.
maybe to make it easier for dragon to count, we can just reply with a replacement vote ?
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To the Admin, can we edit our votes since hugeblack has withdrawn from the contest?
I don't know, i also voted for him, we should ask president
For my part, there is no problem with users editing their votes to modify what they deem necessary.
maybe to make it easier for dragon to count, we can just reply with a replacement vote ?
Yes ideally, I don't want to have to check through the entire count again. For example quote your original vote followed by your change in the vote topic.
Ideally also only those who voted for a candidate who has withdrawn (hugeblack) would be able to change their single vote:
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So this would concern the following the users (unquoting to implement potential pings):
hugeblack (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=324267.msg1627974#msg1627974) (25) --- yhiaali3 (3), examplens (1), admin (1), Agbe (1), Aanuoluwatofunmi (3), philipma1957 (4), icopress (1), PX-Z (1), bhadz (1), Themepen (1), julerz12 (3), BitMaxz (1), Crypto Library (1), SamReomo (3)
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I will do my best if elected. I dont even know what i can really do as a senator lol
Don't worry you will do the same thing like every politician does 8)
Just don't create conspiracy to assassinate Julius Caesar, and don't create revolution against the system, than you should be fine.
At least there is some activity with voting, something is happening in forum and it's not boring.
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Vote count updated. Not many hours left for voting before poll will close so last chance to vote if you haven't already.
Still close between examplens and PX-Z for 3rd senator seat, a single vote could change the result...
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Since hugeblack withdraw to continue his studies, I will vote for Bitmover instead.
This vote was otherwise moved to the vote thread.
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I see some senators give their votes.
As far as I understand, senators can't vote. Even we vote, it won't be counted.
These senators will remain senators, therefore votes towards these senators will not be counted.
Is senator vote valid, @Freemind @dragononcrypto?
If this means people cannot vote the current senators, surely people don't need to vote them since they are senators already.
Need your answer. Sorry for the inconvenience.. :)
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I see some senators give their votes.
As far as I understand, senators can't vote. Even we vote, it won't be counted.
CMIIW
These senators will remain senators, therefore votes towards these senators will not be counted.
Is senator vote valid, @Freemind @dragononcrypto?
I moved your post to this thread... per the quote, votes towards senators will not be counted. Votes from senators are fine.
This was intended to simply clarify that if users voted for senators it would be a wasted vote, as they will remain senators anyway.
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If this means people cannot vote the current senators, surely people don't need to vote them since they are senators already.
You'd hope that voters would understand this, but this is an internet forum after all ;)
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I moved your post to this thread... per the quote, votes towards senators will not be counted. Votes from senators are fine.
This was intended to simply clarify that if users voted for senators it would be a wasted vote, as they will remain senators anyway.
Okay, I get your point.. +++
Sure, there is no need to vote the current senators because they are senators already.
It is clear, thanks for your answer, buddy. :)
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@admin with voting over it seems Jokers, bitmover and examplens are the elected candidates.
Congrats to new senators :)
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Regardless of the results, you should also be mentioned. You devoted a lot of time and energy to managing the entire process, counting votes several times...
+1 for effort.
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@admin with voting over it seems Jokers, bitmover and examplens are the elected candidates.
Congrats to new senators :)
I would personally put a veto on the 3rd as the vote difference is huge, i would suggest a round 2 for 3rd senator
but it's up to president to decide.
I guess we should have allowed each user to choose 3 names to avoid such a huge difference in votes.
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whatever decision is taken will be executed
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I guess we should have allowed each user to choose 3 names to avoid such a huge difference in votes.
Without wanting to say I told you so, I definitely recommended this in the first place but was overruled ::)
While I agree that a 3rd place run off makes sense, we already decided to elect the 3 candidates with the most votes.
To change the decision now would just be bad form by anyone in a position of power...
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@admin with voting over it seems Jokers, bitmover and examplens are the elected candidates.
Congrats to new senators :)
Congratulations to new senators! It's quite amazing to see that we have three of those instead of one and that's a good thing I guess. I hope all of them will perform their duties very well.
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Congratulations to 3 new senators for being selected!
Since I know all three guys from Bitcointalk forum, than I am hoping to see some positive changes in future of this forum.
If that doesn't happen I will have some familiar names to blame for everything ;)
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If that doesn't happen I will have some familiar names to blame for everything ;)
Yes, that Big Bang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang) is my fault as well. I'm so sorry! ;D
Senators have limited powers, but we'll try our best! :)
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If that doesn't happen I will have some familiar names to blame for everything ;)
Yes, that Big Bang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang) is my fault as well. I'm so sorry! ;D
Senators have limited powers, but we'll try our best! :)
honestly i wish i can give you guys all powers, and go take a 6 months vacation on a beach somewhere
have been running this forum for almost 7 years, it's exhausting..
who knows, as we build these democratic systems, everything is possible
even the role of administration itself can be transferred/shared (we'll see in the future)
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honestly i wish i can give you guys all powers, and go take a 6 months vacation on a beach somewhere
have been running this forum for almost 7 years, it's exhausting..
who knows, as we build these democratic systems, everything is possible
even the role of administration itself can be transferred/shared (we'll see in the future)
I don't think forums can survive long term without some central authority figure.
It is possible to have most of the things run in more decentralized way, but this would probably slow things down a lot.
I am not sure how much money is needed for running servers and everything else for crypto forum, but I guess everything goes up if forum keeps growing.
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honestly i wish i can give you guys all powers, and go take a 6 months vacation on a beach somewhere
have been running this forum for almost 7 years, it's exhausting..
who knows, as we build these democratic systems, everything is possible
even the role of administration itself can be transferred/shared (we'll see in the future)
Although when you say “we'll see in the future” I know it's something you haven't thought about in depth, I don't think that idea is entirely accurate depending on what it means. Like dkbit98, I think there should be a "central" authority that, if a specific case, update or problem requires it, makes a decision, in case the other parties have not been able to make that decision correctly and by consensus.
I hope that when the time comes we can talk about this in more depth.
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Dropping by to congratulate all the elected senators, all familiar names from bitcointalk too. Better late than never, right? ;)