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We are working in securing $20,000 with one of the reputable forum member. The update will be posted soon.I assume you are familiar with the forum and know how to recognize a reputable member.
I assume you are familiar with the forum and know how to recognize a reputable member.
We are working in securing $20,000 with one of the reputable forum member. The update will be posted soon.What do you plan with $20,000? Do you want to provide signature campaign?
We will gather all update here
We will post updateYou don't need to separate these posts. Kindly post your update directly if you are ready to post it. ;)
I think it's about GenesisMix marketing, whether it's promotion on forums, social media or Blogs/Videos.We are working in securing $20,000 with one of the reputable forum member. The update will be posted soon.What do you plan with $20,000? Do you want to provide signature campaign?
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Anyway, you don't have telegram channel, dude?I think there is no need for Telegram, because as far as I know, the project about Mixer Bitcoin does not want to be detected by those who have social media like Telegram.
Anyway, you don't have telegram channel, dude?Telegram changed its rules last year, and it is now acceptable to provide collected data to the authorities upon request. This is certainly not in line with services that offer privacy and anonymization. Based on that, mixers and Telegram no longer have a basis to be connected.
We are working in securing $20,000 with one of the reputable forum member. The update will be posted soon.What do you plan with $20,000? Do you want to provide signature campaign?
I don't know which forum member you refer to. However, I hope you choose trusted forum members. Simply avoid the members who are inactive in the forum!!
Why Higher fee = Better Privacy? What would be different if I paid a higher fee since there is no mention of a different mixing algorithm.We believe all bitcoin users have their right to protect their financial privacy. The GenesisMix.cx (https://genesismix.cx/) enables you to secure that desired privacy. A bitcoin user with the luxury to spend more on service fees and do not want to wait longer even the delay to zero, will have the similar anonymity of a bitcoin user with the luxury to wait longer delay even to 7 days by paying lowest service fees.
According to the terms of service it says "Not a resident or living within the United States of America and its Jurisdiction" so how would you enforce that? The service claims that it does not request data from users.It worth to inform that we do not use Cloudflare to prevent DDoS attack. We all know the friendly relation of Cloudflare with agencies. Instead of Cloudflare we use costly, premium quality, and highly secured DDoS attack prevention service. Our DDoS-Guard will prevent visitors who are living within the United States of America and its Jurisdiction.
What does this line "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" mean and how would it be enforced, bitcoin acquisition or what?For any reason if we are not interested to provide service to a bitcoin user, we will not execute their order. We will freeze the coin and wait for the bitcoin user to contact us using our official support channels. After collecting necessary information we will send back their coins to a given address without sending it to our mixing pool.
The network fees are very high 0.0003 BTC is around $25 while most transactions require less than $10 to confirm.UTXO consolidation sometimes cost higher so considering it, the 0.0003 BTC network fees for a mixing service that offers up to 4 destination addresses is not high to be honest. However, we agree that not all the time the network fees we spend is 0.0003 for UTXO consolidation. We figured the 0.0003 BTC network fee is a win-win deal for both us and our users. There are bitcoin mixers who are taking the network fees as much as 0.0007 BTC per transaction because they found this fee is a win-win deal for them and their users. At GenesisMix.cx (https://genesismix.cx/) we want all bitcoin users to protect their financial privacy.
(Although the question for all mixers that offer this is, why the fixed network fee?)Thank you for your post and support. We do not know about other bitcoin mixers but our mixing mechanism works in several steps, all happens on chain. Each step requires to pay network fees. If we could execute our mixing mechanism just like a withdrawal request in a bitcoin service platform like exchange, and gambling sites then our tech team could write a simple script and calculate the network fees dynamically.
btw. why the choice of .cx domain extension?We did not want to do business with regular domain service like GoDaddy, Hostinger, Namecheap, and other know providers who are mainstream and popular. With due respects, we believe they are highly respectful to agencies but not to cryptocurrency communities interests. So, we wanted to go with a reputable and anonymous domain service provider who respects cryptocurrency and its community. We are also not a fan of .COM domain extension. According to our domain service provider .CX is a cryptocurrency friendly domain extension and from our study we found the same too. This was the reason, we wanted to brand our service using the .CX domain extension.
According to Registrar Data their registration data indicates a London address but this address does not contain a private company ---> https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/04985780/officersWe do not know what information you can see. Any information about the domain were set by our anonymous domain service provider, not by GenesisMix.cx management.
Anyway, you don't have telegram channel, dude?We find SimpleX is more secure for anonymous peer-to-peer communication.
We find SimpleX is more secure for anonymous peer-to-peer communication.
We believe all bitcoin users have their right to protect their financial privacy. The GenesisMix.cx (https://genesismix.cx/) enables you to secure that desired privacy. A bitcoin user with the luxury to spend more on service fees and do not want to wait longer even the delay to zero, will have the similar anonymity of a bitcoin user with the luxury to wait longer delay even to 7 days by paying lowest service fees.
For any reason if we are not interested to provide service to a bitcoin user, we will not execute their order. We will freeze the coin and wait for the bitcoin user to contact us using our official support channels. After collecting necessary information we will send back their coins to a given address without sending it to our mixing pool.
......This is just my guess and I hope my guess is right,
One question, Do plan to launch a signature campaign here in near future?
Huge thanks to respected forum member AB de Royse777 who is guiding us to set and execute promotion plans.
We do not know about other bitcoin mixers but our mixing mechanism works in several steps, all happens on chain. Each step requires to pay network fees. If we could execute our mixing mechanism just like a withdrawal request in a bitcoin service platform like exchange, and gambling sites then our tech team could write a simple script and calculate the network fees dynamically.When determining the fee structure, you cannot follow exchanges or casino services because they have a completely different business model. Earning through transactions and withdrawal fees is not their profit-making model, while mixers do.
Regarding recognizing a reputable member, we would like to know your feedback of our choice.As far as I understand, it's Little Mouse.
Unfortunately we already linked it in our website and main post of this topic.Any promotion of any mixer is not allowed on the Bitcointalk forum. Little Mouse made the topic about your escrow contract look like some kind of Genesismix promotion, so the thread was removed for that reason.
May we know the reason?
You are welcome to the forum, i think you are already acquainted about the forum and how it works. Concerning member(s), you will gets good informations and suggestions on this threads through forum members conversation as time progresses.Thank you Bobcrypto, our campaign manager has given us a road map and he will inform us when to launch different campaigns.
One question, Do plan to launch a signature campaign here in near future?
[quote author=genesismix.cx link=topic=328313.msg1724487#msg1724487 date=1740878205Bitcoin inspires us to give more value to security and anonymity. Thanks to decentralization.
Happy to see another SimpleX user. Instead of using Telegram, we prefer to use SimpleX when the topic is about privacy.
We believe all bitcoin users have their right to protect their financial privacy. The GenesisMix.cx (https://genesismix.cx/) enables you to secure that desired privacy. A bitcoin user with the luxury to spend more on service fees and do not want to wait longer even the delay to zero, will have the similar anonymity of a bitcoin user with the luxury to wait longer delay even to 7 days by paying lowest service fees.
For any reason if we are not interested to provide service to a bitcoin user, we will not execute their order. We will freeze the coin and wait for the bitcoin user to contact us using our official support channels. After collecting necessary information we will send back their coins to a given address without sending it to our mixing pool.
Technically speaking, what is the difference between paying a lower fee and a higher fee? What will happen in terms of mixing? Is the only difference the delay time?
So there is the possibility of responding to government requests or requesting more data from users such as KYC?
So there is the possibility of responding to government requests or requesting more data from users such as KYC?Not really. We do not keep data after 24 hours of an order that has completed. When you will place an order with us, you can verify it by yourself. After a certain time of completion of the order you will see the link of your order page will not show any data. We only ask the Letter of Guarantee when resolving a dispute.
Btw, I like the banner ad on the main page of the altcoinstalks website for GenesisMix because it is the first ad that appears when all altcoinstalks members log in.This is our first step to dive into crypto community promotions. We are going to test many forms of marketing which are in our roadmap by the direction of our campaign manager.
When determining the fee structure, you cannot follow exchanges or casino services because they have a completely different business model. Earning through transactions and withdrawal fees is not their profit-making model, while mixers do.Absolutely, exchanges or casino services and our type of services are completely different. Earning through transactions and withdrawal fees are not also our profit-making model too. We are absolutely sure that we were not able to describe the answer clearly to you. We want you to understand that a mixing order goes through several on chain transactions and each steps cost us good amount of network fees. No offense taken, we welcome constructive criticism, otherwise it become difficult to improve.
If it is possible to have a variable netowrk fee for each mixer, we already have functional services that work according to such a principle. I won't name them so as not to derail your ANN thread, but here's an example (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=321809.0)
This is not a direct criticism exclusively for Genesismix, but for all mixers with (at least for me) too high network fees.
As far as I understand, it's Little Mouse.It is AB de Royse777 and Little Mouse. We wanted a different trusted member to perform the disputes and resolutions while having the security asset in his possession. Soon we will have an experienced forum member to look after questions and answers for us in the community.
I see that he has just posted a signed contract on the BTT forum. He should definitely do that here as well, as well as sign the address with the funds, possibly even one of the previously staked addresses, to avoid any doubts about the originality of the account owner.
Are you guys working on that, cause I saw someone pointing on you taking about $20 for transaction fee. This could be a challenge to adoption and survival in the crypto space.We already explained it in our posts Stuart. Ofc you missed it to read ???
on my opinion, how about you guys do some discount in price as a form of welcome bonus to new users...? (Just a suggestion)0.7% fees with 0.0003 BTC network fee for a mixer order is already a discount price to be honest considering the current industry. Understand that as your Service provider, we need to survive first to give you good service. ;D
And also concerning the timeframe for each transaction, is it affected by the rate of fee???
Like if you pay higher, your mixed crypto asset will arrive your wallet faster?
Yes, our manager explained the reason already, thank you for explaining it once again for us. Now, we are working in setting up the dispute and resolution page in this community. Do you have suggestions about the escrow norms? We will appreciate some terms coming from our discussions and we can propose it to our managers.Unfortunately we already linked it in our website and main post of this topic.Any promotion of any mixer is not allowed on the Bitcointalk forum. Little Mouse made the topic about your escrow contract look like some kind of Genesismix promotion, so the thread was removed for that reason.
May we know the reason?
I don't know why you went to another forum, as far as I know Little Mouse is active here too. He could have set up an escrow agreement here, too. Of course, if there ever is any dispute, it will be resolved here, not on Bitcointalk.
Certain escrow norms should be met, it is not enough to just sign the address and possibly deposit funds. On the other hand, it is necessary to define eventual cases when assets may be liquidated, how arbitration will be conducted, etc.
Now, we are working in setting up the dispute and resolution page in this community. Do you have suggestions about the escrow norms? We will appreciate some terms coming from our discussions and we can propose it to our managers.You are in good hands. As far as I know, Royse is an experienced manager, and he already had experience with similar things. I do not doubt that he will fulfill all the requirements.
The time delay will enhance the breaking of the link between addresses but the mixing fee will only do that if there is an extra round in coin join. Is this what is happening or what?
Let us imagine a scale to picture difficulties, this is just an idea to explain you better. 0 for easy to break, 100 for almost impossible to break.
1. Lowest fees which is 0.7% with lowest time delay which is instant will have a difficulties of lower than 5 which is still better than sending your coins openly.
2. Lowest fees which is 0.7% with 7 days time delay will have a difficulties of 60.
3. Highest fees which is 4.7% with highest time delay which is 7 days will have a difficulties of 100
4. Highest fees which is 4.7% with time delay above 3 hours will have a difficulties of 90 to 100
5. Highest fees which is 4.7% with time delay below 3 hours will have a difficulties of 85 to 90
We hope you get the idea. With GenesisMix, our users have complete freedom to combine any combination they consider better serve for them.
What's the minimum deposit? And what happens when a user accidentally sends lower?
As expected GenesisMix review campaign has launched.This is nice. I really appreciate your effort of bringing more brands to the forum. Continue the good work. I will definitely test the mixer.
🔎 📝 ⭐ 👀 GenesisMix.cx Review Campaign | Monthly reward $500 (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=328455.0)
It's going to be a good one.
Let's continue support for GenesisMix. There are promotions in pipeline so stay in touch.
As expected GenesisMix review campaign has launched.
🔎 📝 ⭐ 👀 GenesisMix.cx Review Campaign | Monthly reward $500 (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=328455.0)
It's going to be a good one.
Let's continue support for GenesisMix. There are promotions in pipeline so stay in touch.
I added some more FAQs and edited some of the terms for the 🔎 📝 ⭐ 👀 Review Campaign (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=328455.0). The spreadsheet added too. If anyone have any questions about the review campaign and want discuss about it then it's a good time before I get busy with other things :-DSorry, but I think that a review campaign in the form of a competition is a rather bad idea. And for several reasons.
Few days ago, I saw the GenesisMix ads at the top of the forum. I quickly clicked to visit the site and it was nicely designed. I didn't have any need to mix a coin, so I exited. I just wondered why they chose CX as their domain extension.As expected GenesisMix review campaign has launched.
🔎 📝 ⭐ 👀 GenesisMix.cx Review Campaign | Monthly reward $500 (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=328455.0)
It's going to be a good one.
Let's continue support for GenesisMix. There are promotions in pipeline so stay in touch.
This is very interesting. Having a campaign of such in the forum and square headed by you, you are doing grate and much appreciated for all your brands.
Thank you for your feedback. Let me explain it a bit better for you to understand more clearly.I added some more FAQs and edited some of the terms for the 🔎 📝 ⭐ 👀 Review Campaign (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=328455.0). The spreadsheet added too. If anyone have any questions about the review campaign and want discuss about it then it's a good time before I get busy with other things :-DSorry, but I think that a review campaign in the form of a competition is a rather bad idea. And for several reasons.
Anyone who would like to participate in this review campaign would have to pay a minimum of 0.000335 BTC (plus network fee). What is currently: (https://bitcoindata.science/api/localprice.php?coin=bitcoin&amount=0.000335¤cy=USD&hex=037901) (https://bitcoindata.science/bitcointalk-api.html#local-price)
Not a small amount for the participation itself plus some effort to write a review, where there are good chances that there is no rewards or compensation.What if the user is not selected for three months? In the end, even if he gets an award, it will barely cover the costs, not to mention the time invested.OK, now I see the rule "one review per forum member."
If I understood correctly, if there are only 7 submitted reviews during the month, there will be no prize because there is a minimum of 10 participants. So, these seven have been trying in vain.
If the first three submitted reviews are very good, won't that demoralize the others to participate because they won't want to spend money and time unnecessarily?
Also, the disclaimer about closing the campaign (without any obligations) at any time is not encouraging.
The idea is quite good for the mixer owners because the participants will finance most of the campaign by paying a service fee, but it certainly does not seem attractive to users. For some casinos, this seems like a good model of a promotional review campaign, I wouldn't say it's the same for the mixer.
I may be seeing it wrong, but we will see in time how successful the campaign will be.
This is just my two satoshi's
Certainly, good luck with the campaign
Thirdly, the review campaign. I see that Royce probably wants to try a new approach, which is not very straightforward to me. I wonder why the normal review campaign with fixed price no longer fly.We can always experiment, can't we? Those normal reviews have no problem at all. My door is wide open but one of my job is to bring maximum value for my clients with minimum expense. With this new approach I am trying to achieve that goal. Just because I have given half a hundred thousands of dollars to spend in marketing does not mean I will not use it appropriately.
Not a bad idea to experiment new ideas, I applaud you for that. It is experiments that bring innovations. However, while trying to maximise value for your clients, you should also balance it with the nature of this forum and implement ideas that will encourage participation by users. Here is unlike the other forum where people are readily available for any ideas.Thirdly, the review campaign. I see that Royce probably wants to try a new approach, which is not very straightforward to me. I wonder why the normal review campaign with fixed price no longer fly.We can always experiment, can't we? Those normal reviews have no problem at all. My door is wide open but one of my job is to bring maximum value for my clients with minimum expense. With this new approach I am trying to achieve that goal. Just because I have given half a hundred thousands of dollars to spend in marketing does not mean I will not use it appropriately.
I have seen Rose making efforts to always bring new ideas and experiment them, but then I have also seen a little disconnection between the new ideas with participants, most of the review campaigns that Rose picked me on bitcoin talk come with high tasks some are almost impossible to meet by average forum members and that is the reason for the low participation most at timesNot a bad idea to experiment new ideas, I applaud you for that. It is experiments that bring innovations. However, while trying to maximise value for your clients, you should also balance it with the nature of this forum and implement ideas that will encourage participation by users. Here is unlike the other forum where people are readily available for any ideas.Thirdly, the review campaign. I see that Royce probably wants to try a new approach, which is not very straightforward to me. I wonder why the normal review campaign with fixed price no longer fly.We can always experiment, can't we? Those normal reviews have no problem at all. My door is wide open but one of my job is to bring maximum value for my clients with minimum expense. With this new approach I am trying to achieve that goal. Just because I have given half a hundred thousands of dollars to spend in marketing does not mean I will not use it appropriately.
If there are 9 eligible reviews by March 31st, in April there will be no draw. Let's say in April we received 8 more reviews. It means we are starting May with 17 new reviews. In May (between 1st to 5th) we will have a draw. Out of 17, 3 wins the draw and 14 left out in this draw. Good news is these 14 will be added in the list of the next draw.
In May we received 11 reviews means after the 1st draw we have desired 10 new reviews. When June starts we have 14+11 reviews in our draw list. We do the draw (between June 1st to 5th) 3 wins the draw and 22 left out in this draw again. These 22 will be added in the list of next draw (3rd) and this way we will continue. I hope the explanation was better.
I added some more FAQs and edited some of the terms for the 🔎 📝 ⭐ 👀 Review Campaign (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=328455.0). The spreadsheet added too. If anyone have any questions about the review campaign and want discuss about it then it's a good time before I get busy with other things :-D
The most basic form of review campaign and to me the most effective. I have done this type of review for Royse client in the past. I also remember my last review with him which my review was the best and I recieved the highest amount of pay for that review.I added some more FAQs and edited some of the terms for the 🔎 📝 ⭐ 👀 Review Campaign (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=328455.0). The spreadsheet added too. If anyone have any questions about the review campaign and want discuss about it then it's a good time before I get busy with other things :-D
I also think that 5-10 good reviews from trusted accounts are better than a reviews campaign with +100 random reviews*, so I suggest to have a list of paid reviews (after paying the minimum to use the mixing service) and $100-$500 for the best review (including any review).
I also think that 5-10 good reviews from trusted accounts are better than a reviews campaign with +100 random reviews*, so I suggest to have a list of paid reviews (after paying the minimum to use the mixing service) and $100-$500 for the best review (including any review).Let me figure out something about it. Considering it an additional review campaign will not be a bad idea.
Reviews should include checking AML score, mixing quality** and depositing it to some CEX.
* Last time I remember one of the participants strongly protested about this and to avoid any future drama or complaints please review the current method.That notblox1 or something username. If I can remember correctly then his demand was to pay him while I did not think it was worth paying. As the campaign manager in my campaigns I reserve the right not to pay a participant if I think they are not worth paying.
The most basic form of review campaign and to me the most effective.If I am being honest then I will not say it "The most effective" yet. A marketing is never a straight forward thing, you will always need to improvise in your strategies.
You are right, completely agree with you, the thing I personally assume is that there are currently more resourceful users in the other forum than here at the moment, and what I mean by resourceful is having the right tools for any type of job that comes up.Not a bad idea to experiment new ideas, I applaud you for that. It is experiments that bring innovations. However, while trying to maximise value for your clients, you should also balance it with the nature of this forum and implement ideas that will encourage participation by users. Here is unlike the other forum where people are readily available for any ideas.Thirdly, the review campaign. I see that Royce probably wants to try a new approach, which is not very straightforward to me. I wonder why the normal review campaign with fixed price no longer fly.We can always experiment, can't we? Those normal reviews have no problem at all. My door is wide open but one of my job is to bring maximum value for my clients with minimum expense. With this new approach I am trying to achieve that goal. Just because I have given half a hundred thousands of dollars to spend in marketing does not mean I will not use it appropriately.
You are experienced in the marketing industry, so I have no option than to agree with you. We move...The most basic form of review campaign and to me the most effective.If I am being honest then I will not say it "The most effective" yet. A marketing is never a straight forward thing, you will always need to improvise in your strategies.
As expected GenesisMix review campaign has launched.
🔎 📝 ⭐ 👀 GenesisMix.cx Review Campaign | Monthly reward $500 (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=328455.0)
It's going to be a good one.
Let's continue support for GenesisMix. There are promotions in pipeline so stay in touch.
We have now an additional review campaign for GenesisMix.cxYea, it's good to be happy and it's good to have a listening manager. Cheers!
[OPEN] 📝 ⭐ Review GenesisMix.cx Additional | $100 per user | Application thread (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=328524.0)
The demand for such campaigns was high. Let us be happy :-D
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/09/0R1vC.jpeg)Output is much more different than the input -> might be harder to track.
Longer delay time, better privacy is understandable by me, but I don’t understand why higher fee, better privacy.
+1(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/09/0R1vC.jpeg)Output is much more different than the input -> might be harder to track.
Longer delay time, better privacy is understandable by me, but I don’t understand why higher fee, better privacy.
For example, I send 1 BTC from address X and receive 0.999 BTC on address Y, one could say it's my deposit tx minus fees.
If you use a higher fee, automatic tools might think both txs aren't related (since people usually pay as little as possible).
I was testing the mixer and found some similarities with jambler mixers.If you have access to the genesismix site, check their PGP fingerprint. All Jambler partners use the same:
Does genesis use jambler to mix coins?
B8A5 CFCA F63F F2D8 384A 6B12 D3B2 8095 6F0E 7CAF
Well, I can't access genesismix.cxIt's .cx, ftfy :-D
I was testing the mixer and found some similarities with jambler mixers.They does not have any affiliation with Jambler.
Does genesis use jambler to mix coins?
I wrote .ch in the post by mistake. Testing was on a real .cx domain.Well, I can't access genesismix.cxIt's .cx, ftfy :-D
If you use a higher fee, automatic tools might think both txs aren't related (since people usually pay as little as possible).If the coins could be split into multiple outputs and sent with different time delays, there would be no need for higher fees (or in fact, random fees). In addition, fees have a range, so even if you used a 10% fee, it would be like a 1% or 3% fee, and you could determine that it came from a mixer based on the range of fees.
Useful information, Please do not ignore:
🛡️ Our domain extension is .cx, please visit: https://genesismix.cx/
If the coins could be split into multiple outputs and sent with different time delays, there would be no need for higher fees (or in fact, random fees). In addition, fees have a range, so even if you used a 10% fee, it would be like a 1% or 3% fee, and you could determine that it came from a mixer based on the range of fees.More noise is always better, of course sometimes it's not worth paying 2x more fees for a small 5% increase in privacy and a small chance of having your tx passing as a totally unrelated tx... but some people might still want that if they really don't want to get tracked on chain.
This gives me an idea. Why don't I make a matrix of all the mixers' domains, and then color them green or red to denote whether it's legit or phishing?I guess you would have some kind of regex to detect matching parts of the site that are from the legit page? i.e if the real GenesisMix.cx has a header with the name "GenesisMix" and a paragraph with the text XXX, your extension will find the similarity and assume it's a phishing page? Because otherwise you would need to constantly track all new fake websites which could be an endless task (i.e genesismixx[at].cx, genessmix[at].cx, genesismiix[at]com, and thousands of variations...).
This gives me an idea. Why don't I make a matrix of all the mixers' domains, and then color them green or red to denote whether it's legit or phishing?Given that there are not too many active, operational mixers, I don't think doing something similar should be a big challenge. Since you have already listed all the mixers on the site, you can create a "tool" where the visitor can enter the domain and validate whether it really belongs to a regular mixer.
It was a hobby project of mine for some time but for crypto sites in general. I reckon I could have it up in about a week with the help of Grok (which by the way is seriously good at coding - highly recommend it if you're a developer).
Given that there are not too many active, operational mixers, I don't think doing something similar should be a big challenge. Since you have already listed all the mixers on the site, you can create a "tool" where the visitor can enter the domain and validate whether it really belongs to a regular mixer.
So, "green true" if the domain is in your database, while "red false" is for all others.
I guess you would have some kind of regex to detect matching parts of the site that are from the legit page? i.e if the real GenesisMix.cx has a header with the name "GenesisMix" and a paragraph with the text XXX, your extension will find the similarity and assume it's a phishing page? Because otherwise you would need to constantly track all new fake websites which could be an endless task (i.e genesismixx[at].cx, genessmix[at].cx, genesismiix[at]com, and thousands of variations...).
Nope, no regexes required here. Because we already can obtain the domains of all trusted sites very quickly, so all people have to do is report fake versions of those sites, and after erifying that those domains exist, they're added to the phishing database.Right, but then it's a rat and mouse game. Someone gets a phishing market as fake -> they create yet another domain -> wait until someone reports -> they create another. If you need to wait until someone reports it, chances are that they will only do that *after* they are phished and scammed.
Nope, no regexes required here. Because we already can obtain the domains of all trusted sites very quickly, so all people have to do is report fake versions of those sites, and after erifying that those domains exist, they're added to the phishing database.Right, but then it's a rat and mouse game. Someone gets a phishing market as fake -> they create yet another domain -> wait until someone reports -> they create another. If you need to wait until someone reports it, chances are that they will only do that *after* they are phished and scammed.
That is a good point, and one way to solve it would be to go to those sites that show you a list of recently registered domains, take a screenshot of each site, and doing a visual comparison with the real sites. Identical sites would mean fakes (even if they are simply mirrors - it can be fixed later), but I have no idea how one can visually compare two images with a program.I assume that something like that would have to bypass the firewall protection that all mixers have at a slightly higher level than usual websites. Also, how doable is it with onion sites
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We reserve the right to refuse service to anyonehttps://genesismix.cx/terms
I assume that something like that would have to bypass the firewall protection that all mixers have at a slightly higher level than usual websites. Also, how doable is it with onion sites
With onion sites it's less of a problem because most people will not put the legwork required to host a copycat onionsite.You are right about this, although clearnet domains are easier for the human eye to read, and if you pay attention to that, the chances of a phishing scam are small. Unlike onioin addresses, which mostly look like a set of random characters, it is pretty difficult to compare the originality of the link.
That is not to say that scams to dot happen on onionsites, but your average tor user is 1) much more security-minded and 2) less likely to click on phishing links.
So I won't bother with them. Clearnet sites are a much bigger problem because there's a larger audience to fool.
Is this before or after you have sent coin to the mixer. It is not elaborated in the terms of services.
And this:QuoteWe reserve the right to refuse service to anyonehttps://genesismix.cx/terms
I have not read something like that as mixer services are treated as bad actors in most countries there is no regulatory body that monitors and formulates laws for mixers and this is why a lot of them get banned when there is excessive abuse of the freedom and maltreatment of their communities.Is this before or after you have sent coin to the mixer. It is not elaborated in the terms of services.
And this:QuoteWe reserve the right to refuse service to anyonehttps://genesismix.cx/terms
In the case of maltreatment by a mixer, is there a regulatory body that could intercede? I doubt there is…
And this:Is this before or after you have sent coin to the mixer. It is not elaborated in the terms of services.QuoteWe reserve the right to refuse service to anyonehttps://genesismix.cx/terms
Good explanation and in all you explained, it is just only the decision of the mixer. What happens in a situation the mixer refuses to refund, what then will happen? I guess the person will begin raise scam accusations in online forums and when no help comes, the victim will accept their fate.And this:Is this before or after you have sent coin to the mixer. It is not elaborated in the terms of services.QuoteWe reserve the right to refuse service to anyonehttps://genesismix.cx/terms
AFAIK, if they believe that a user is trying to misuse/abuse the mixer or for any reasons at all (not specified), they can refuse their service to that user. And yes, it's after you send the coins to the mixer. In that case, they will not execute the mixing order nor send your funds to the mixing pool, rather they will freeze your funds until you contact GenesisMix through their support. And after they collect the necessary informations (I don't know what kind of info), they will send back the funds to your refund address.
Good explanation and in all you explained, it is just only the decision of the mixer. What happens in a situation the mixer refuses to refund, what then will happen? I guess the person will begin raise scam accusations in online forums and when no help comes, the victim will accept their fate.
I understand you, the topic I am raising is actually a different one and needs a broader audience rather than on the genesismix thread. All your answers are logical, although based on assumptions. I sincerely appreciate your feedback.Good explanation and in all you explained, it is just only the decision of the mixer. What happens in a situation the mixer refuses to refund, what then will happen? I guess the person will begin raise scam accusations in online forums and when no help comes, the victim will accept their fate.
I don't think the mixer would refuse the refunding unless they themselves are also scammers or planning to scam. But that's a topic for another day and I don't think anyone can predict whether someone will scam or not, not until they actually does that.
Anyway, as I said before, I don't know what kind of information they might ask if situation like thar arises. And IMO, no mixer would freeze funds without any good reasons. You get what I meant right? If strong evidence suggests that the funds were stolen/hacked they might do it (my assumption).
Issues With This Fee StructureMaybe you missed it, but when mixing on Genesismix, and I think it's common with all mixers, you can set the mixing fee yourself. In this particular case, it is between 0.7% and 4.7%. There is a sliderFees Recommendations
- Unpredictability and variation between big and small mixes: The fee varies too much (0.7% – 4.7%). Users may feel uncomfortable not knowing exactly how much they will pay save they use the calculator.
- High Fixed Fee for Small Transactions: The 0.0003 BTC network fee is very high for users who want to mix small amounts (e.g., 0.001 BTC).
- Competitiveness: Most mixers charge between 1% – 3% with lower or dynamic network fees.
To attract more users, Genesismix should consider:
- Reducing the maximum mixing fee (keep it between 0.7% – 2.5% for fairness).
Does anyone know what happened to this mixer?. The website displays a 502 error and can't be accessed from any device. Neither "normal" browsers nor Tor (without using Onion links) allow access.It works normally on my side, both, clearnet and onion site. It seems there's something wrong on your side.
If anyone has more information, it would be nice to share it here so we know what's going on.
It works normally on my side, both, clearnet and onion site. It seems there's something wrong on your side.
We are talking about https://genesismix.cx/ web address, right?
It's now working fine on Tor and Clearnet, so I assume it was a one-time glitch. Since I tried to access it several times in the same hour, I thought there was some problem. Yes, it's the same URL.Mixers usually have a somewhat stricter firewall setup, I wouldn't be surprised if the firewall temporarily blocked you because you made several access attempts in a short period.
We already know how mixers are sometimes and the surprises they can throw at us.
Thanks for the confirmation.
Mixers usually have a somewhat stricter firewall setup, I wouldn't be surprised if the firewall temporarily blocked you because you made several access attempts in a short period.
The same thing happened to me with other mixers, but after a while it resets and access is enabled again.