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Title: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Bobcrypto on March 31, 2025, 08:05:08 AM
There are growing concerns that the Bitcoin four year cycle might had been shifted based on factors like, high numbers institutional investors, demands, growing interest from the US, the adoptions of Bitcoin as a strategic reserve and others.
Again, 2025 is supposed to kick start bitcoin new circle but there are insinuation and speculations of a bear run, and because of this various market ideas, some market analysts suggest that Bitcoin four year circle is not ineffective as it used to be, the circle might have been permanently shifted,  some analyst insisted. What do you think?

Check here for details: https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-market-cycle-permanently-shifted-polygon-founder
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: Charles-Tim on March 31, 2025, 09:27:19 AM
Do not just believe analysts in everything they are saying. What I do not like about them is that as some of them will predict something, others will be predicting the opposite.

Probably they are doing this to alter 2026 bear market. Just use your brain and do not let what they are saying deceive you.
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: TomPluz on March 31, 2025, 09:58:53 AM
Well, this analysis can be right due to the big and influential factors cited above but this can just be another speculation so maybe I would end at the end of 2025 to finally conclude of this possible shift. What can not be denied is that years 2024 and 2025 will be considered as different than the past many years especially connected to the concept of a Bitcoin cycle. What I just don't like is that we are already ending the first quarter of the year and I am still looking forward for Bitcoin to rushed towards the $150K magic zone.
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: ABCbits on March 31, 2025, 10:55:21 AM
Do you forget to include link to the news? With only what you said, it means people should realize why phrase "Past Performance Is Not Indicative Of Future Results" exists.
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: Bobcrypto on March 31, 2025, 11:56:37 AM
Do you forget to include link to the news? With only what you said, it means people should realize why phrase "Past Performance Is Not Indicative Of Future Results" exists.

Yes, sorry I forgot, but it has been added as per the details. you can now read and make your contribution on the topic. Thank for your quick observation.
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: Jating on April 01, 2025, 02:19:05 PM
Do you forget to include link to the news? With only what you said, it means people should realize why phrase "Past Performance Is Not Indicative Of Future Results" exists.
And we can only connect the dots moving forward, so for now, everything is still very speculative. We really don't know if this is a new trend or the market has shifted already. If it is the latter, then we might have achieved the all time high already? If we believed that it's not then, perhaps the trend will continue. Which means that that there are still a lot of leg room for us to make a rally and see the price going into it's peak around the last quarter of the year.
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: God Of Thunder on April 01, 2025, 03:46:12 PM
some market analysts suggest that Bitcoin four year circle is not ineffective as it used to be, the circle might have been permanently shifted,  some analyst insisted. What do you think?

I started to realize that since the last halvening. I guess it was dkbit98 who posted a similar thought, and he shared why the halving is not much affecting the market. Before, the halving caused huge scarcity on the market. For example, if the block reward was 50 Bitcoin, it was reduced to 25 and then 12.5, and then 6.25. These sharp drops caused huge scarcity after a few months of the halving. But now most of the supply is on circulating already. There are only  a few percentage of Bitcoin left to mine and the scarcity won't increase much.
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: Crwth on April 01, 2025, 03:54:18 PM
A lot of things have happened already, but I believe that people will be able to see how far Bitcoin has come. It is just still starting, and I hope that everyone will be involved in this. I think this is just to start with the Bitcoin reserve, and I hope that other countries will follow suit as well.
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: electronicash on April 01, 2025, 10:04:28 PM

the altcoin season didn't come along while BTC pumped after the halving. that's one proof that cycle has already changed. thebear market coming again after a year is likely to come and if BTC bull run continues i guess the cycle for BTC is the only that has changed positively while not for altcoins.

BTC adoption has changed a lot in the macro level. with trump elevating it as one of the strategic reserves and institutions coming to accumulate, maybe we can see another ATH.

Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: Zed0X on April 01, 2025, 11:57:13 PM
We are yet to see who among these analysts with contrasting views is going to be correct. What is clear to us is that the halving cycle will continue and that there will be new market players in each cycle. We also understand that bitcoin price entered a new territory when even Governments got involved. Ultimately, it's up to you as a trader/investor how you will play in this changing market.
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 02, 2025, 06:24:23 AM
Do not just believe analysts in everything they are saying. What I do not like about them is that as some of them will predict something, others will be predicting the opposite.
that is because there is no accurate analysis because no one is for certain to predict the future we all have our different assumptions based on different methods of analysis so believe what you want to believe

what i will say though is how often i have heard this already every after a bull run, people claim that there will be no more bearish cycle after that and instead bitcoin is entering a supercycle and guess what it has never happened so i doubt it will happen this year
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: Kemarit on April 02, 2025, 07:09:09 AM
We are yet to see who among these analysts with contrasting views is going to be correct. What is clear to us is that the halving cycle will continue and that there will be new market players in each cycle. We also understand that bitcoin price entered a new territory when even Governments got involved. Ultimately, it's up to you as a trader/investor how you will play in this changing market.

Yes, there are still a lot of contrasting views, there were even one school of thoughts who says about a super cycle. So maybe as time goes by, it might shift to a new one. Nevertheless, it can't be proven for now if we are in a new territory, or this is just similar but just different path for now.

And if this is a different path, then why we heard of predictions like $150,000-$180,000. If the majority saw a cycle that we have seen for the first time, then we could have arrived to that all time high of $109,000. But the thing is that we don't see that as our top price in this cycle and more is likely to come specially the last quarter of the year.
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: Charles-Tim on April 02, 2025, 09:14:37 AM
what i will say though is how often i have heard this already every after a bull run, people claim that there will be no more bearish cycle after that and instead bitcoin is entering a supercycle and guess what it has never happened so i doubt it will happen this year
This is the first time I have heard something like that since I have known about bitcoin. What makes them to be saying rubbish is because of the United States bitcoin reserve and how the all-time high came earlier than expected last year. But you are right that it is just a prediction. They can be right or wrong. What I see is that they can be wrong.
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: Baofeng on April 02, 2025, 11:28:24 AM
what i will say though is how often i have heard this already every after a bull run, people claim that there will be no more bearish cycle after that and instead bitcoin is entering a supercycle and guess what it has never happened so i doubt it will happen this year
This is the first time I have heard something like that since I have known about bitcoin. What makes them to be saying rubbish is because of the United States bitcoin reserve and how the all-time high came earlier than expected last year. But you are right that it is just a prediction. They can be right or wrong. What I see is that they can be wrong.

Yes, other call it supercycle, but still not happening at least. I wouldn't be concern about Bitcoin's price movement. We still have plenty of months in our side to accomplished and get to what everyone is predicting, $150k and higher.

The new cycle though might have started to altcoin market, just look at the market itself, Ethereum is still down by more than 60% from it's previous high and almost all of the top coins have similar pattern.
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: Bobcrypto on April 02, 2025, 05:11:30 PM

the altcoin season didn't come along while BTC pumped after the halving. that's one proof that cycle has already changed. thebear market coming again after a year is likely to come and if BTC bull run continues i guess the cycle for BTC is the only that has changed positively while not for altcoins.

BTC adoption has changed a lot in the macro level. with trump elevating it as one of the strategic reserves and institutions coming to accumulate, maybe we can see another ATH.

Bitcoin drives the entire crypto market, so once there is any mentioned of crypto circle, it is directly focus on the Bitcoin ecosystem. I doubt if Altcoins has separate circles, though each altcoins has a separate blockchain networks, but if they do have a circle, unfortunately, this circle are of no effect on the crypto market as far as I know
In addition, It is clear that altcoins has no direct control of the market but Bitcoin does control the market overtimes.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: MrSpasybo on April 02, 2025, 06:02:28 PM
There are growing concerns that the Bitcoin four year circle might had been shifted based on factors like, high numbers institutional investors, demands, growing interest from the US, the adoptions of Bitcoin as a strategic reserve and others.
Again, 2025 is supposed to kick start bitcoin new circle but there are insinuation and speculations of a bear run, and because of this various market ideas, some market analysts suggest that Bitcoin four year circle is not ineffective as it used to be, the circle might have been permanently shifted,  some analyst insisted. What do you think?
I don't think rushing to conclusions about the cyclical nature of BTC and the crypto market right now is appropriate. I'll make my own assessment of this when we get to mid-2026. If we still have BTC ATH and the start of the crypto winter between now and then, the market will repeat history. Otherwise, we'll have new history: cycles being shortened or lengthened.

Every investor has their own perspective when looking at the market; to me, those perspectives don't mean much. Sometimes, KOLs just want to say what the community wants to hear instead of what's likely to happen in the market. Investors should also be smart and disciplined to make profits, don't completely believe what the media feeds us.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 02, 2025, 06:59:12 PM
The circles may still remains as they were, but only the pattern to which they take effect and moves the market that might be changed, because if we are to compare the present market to the previous ones we have been having, there are lots to talk about on it and we may not really have much to proof on all these for now until we go further to see where its going, there have been series of changes from the previous patterns and that cannot be the basis for our conclusion yet except the facts are well established.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Asiska02 on April 02, 2025, 10:23:52 PM
There are growing concerns that the Bitcoin four year cycle might had been shifted based on factors like, high numbers institutional investors, demands, growing interest from the US, the adoptions of Bitcoin as a strategic reserve and others.

Everything that you’ve listed above may actually have caused a lot of effect in the market and that’s why we are seeing the market performing in this way. Although, many still feel all of this cannot annul it change the normal consensus on how this market works, so things will still fall in place and we’ll witness a bull run soon.

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Again, 2025 is supposed to kick start bitcoin new circle but there are insinuation and speculations of a bear run, and because of this various market ideas, some market analysts suggest that Bitcoin four year circle is not ineffective as it used to be, the circle might have been permanently shifted,  some analyst insisted. What do you think?

We can’t be so sure that the four years cycle has been shifted, maybe until we see the end of 2025 and we don’t see a bull run happening. Analysts may have done their own analysis and their results could be true but until a proven fact is established, this will remain to be a mere speculation.
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: rby on April 02, 2025, 11:17:34 PM
what i will say though is how often i have heard this already every after a bull run, people claim that there will be no more bearish cycle after that and instead bitcoin is entering a supercycle and guess what it has never happened so i doubt it will happen this year
This is the first time I have heard something like that since I have known about bitcoin. What makes them to be saying rubbish is because of the United States bitcoin reserve and how the all-time high came earlier than expected last year. But you are right that it is just a prediction. They can be right or wrong. What I see is that they can be wrong.
I have heard that narrative but I didn't take it so serious.  But this is the 3rd time I have heard it and the reason of the person that first carried this hypothesis is close to what you have said ;
1. He believed that ATH came before halving
2. ETF bitcoin happened in this cycle
3. Trump endorsement of bitcoin and US national reserve.
This could sustain the bitcoin price for long. So the author suggested that bull run could be longer than normal.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Faisal2202 on April 03, 2025, 08:03:58 PM
There are growing concerns that the Bitcoin four year cycle might had been shifted based on factors like, high numbers institutional investors, demands, growing interest from the US, the adoptions of Bitcoin as a strategic reserve and others.
Again, 2025 is supposed to kick start bitcoin new circle but there are insinuation and speculations of a bear run, and because of this various market ideas, some market analysts suggest that Bitcoin four year circle is not ineffective as it used to be, the circle might have been permanently shifted,  some analyst insisted. What do you think?
You are right, the cycle has been shifted, or as for some, it might not be. I am confused, but due to the adoption level and investment inflow in BTC, I think we might see a delay in the bear run because, sooner or later, Trump will add BTC and another crypto to his reserves, which can change the 4-year cycle, and some even say halving won't be a big factor for the bull run now, it will shift to 4-year political election.

But saying 4-year cycle has been shifted can't be true and it seems like a trap and it is a trap, someone has to become liquidity and this time money is just too much and we need more liquidity that's why these traps are being set IMO.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Asiska02 on April 04, 2025, 11:59:34 PM
You are right, the cycle has been shifted, or as for some, it might not be. I am confused, but due to the adoption level and investment inflow in BTC, I think we might see a delay in the bear run because, sooner or later, Trump will add BTC and another crypto to his reserves, which can change the 4-year cycle, and some even say halving won't be a big factor for the bull run now, it will shift to 4-year political election.

But saying 4-year cycle has been shifted can't be true and it seems like a trap and it is a trap, someone has to become liquidity and this time money is just too much and we need more liquidity that's why these traps are being set IMO.

Your points also makes a lot of sense and that may also be considered. From speculations that the four years cycle has been shifted, and now the cycle been only related to Trump political period on seat, these are all speculations and until proven are just mere rumours. This should be regarded as a trap and people will fall for this trap because the market is already showing some signs of such. It is necessary that the market continues in this trajectory or people might fall victim of this trap before we realize.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Z-tight on April 05, 2025, 12:54:25 AM
Those are the views of those analysts, another group of people can give a completely different analysis, this is why i do not pay attention to what the people you call 'experts' say. BTC is there for us all to draw our own conclusions ourselves. While the network continues to mature, i don't think the cycle has shifted just yet.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: bayu7adi on April 05, 2025, 06:30:28 AM
In 2025, this is indeed a fact that occurs like that, quite a lot of big investors have entered Bitcoin, and I myself feel that the price movement is faster than the previous cycle... however, to ensure that the cycle has changed, this does not completely agree... I still rely on the halving moment and the four-year cycle, and the large number of investors entering in 2025, in my opinion this is still in the old cycle too... because we need a price explosion to at least skyrocket bitcoin from $60k to $100k.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 05, 2025, 10:40:36 AM
In 2025, this is indeed a fact that occurs like that, quite a lot of big investors have entered Bitcoin, and I myself feel that the price movement is faster than the previous cycle... however, to ensure that the cycle has changed, this does not completely agree... I still rely on the halving moment and the four-year cycle, and the large number of investors entering in 2025, in my opinion this is still in the old cycle too... because we need a price explosion to at least skyrocket bitcoin from $60k to $100k.
i also believe the four cycle remains but we also cant deny that bitcoin has grown expeditiously from previous cycles it is now being acknowledged by numerous governments and being added to their reserves and being used as payment method for global trades

there is also now bitcoin etf and many more other companies investing in bitcoin so i understand why people might start thinking that all this can alter or even manipulate the market but i do not think so patterns are a big thing and they usually do happen for a reason
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Baofeng on April 05, 2025, 11:50:11 AM
In 2025, this is indeed a fact that occurs like that, quite a lot of big investors have entered Bitcoin, and I myself feel that the price movement is faster than the previous cycle... however, to ensure that the cycle has changed, this does not completely agree... I still rely on the halving moment and the four-year cycle, and the large number of investors entering in 2025, in my opinion this is still in the old cycle too... because we need a price explosion to at least skyrocket bitcoin from $60k to $100k.

We will see how it goes, everyone has different thoughts on what will happen this year. But I think majority still thinks that we are not or cycle has not yet shifted. The cycle is going to be just the same, with or without ETF or pre halving ATH.

It's that there could be a lot of investors already, that's why we thought that it's very different as compare to the last cycle. Nevertheless the moment of truth or we will know everything in the last quarter of the year if we still have to get to a new all time high or not.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: rby on April 06, 2025, 12:56:16 AM
Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have ended.
This was what I erroneous read. I still believe that the cycle have ended. We might not see $100k again till another cycle.
Concerning the shifting of cycle, I believe the massive adoption of Bitcoin this period should impact the market. But I don't know how it will impact or if it had impacted already.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: NotATether on April 06, 2025, 01:03:32 AM
Not at all, actually. This is completely normal behavior during a cycle.

After a bull run, it is normal for a sideways shift to occur. It happened in 2022 after the 2021 bull run, remember that?

It just means the market is oversaturated right now, and people are waiting until later to buy.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: rby on April 07, 2025, 11:49:32 AM
Not at all, actually. This is completely normal behavior during a cycle.

After a bull run, it is normal for a sideways shift to occur. It happened in 2022 after the 2021 bull run, remember that?

It just means the market is oversaturated right now, and people are waiting until later to buy.
What do you have to say about the bitcoin 10% dip in 24 hours, is it a clear indication that we are in the bear market now? While we are discussing extension of bitcoin cycle, bear market has taken us unaware.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 07, 2025, 06:07:10 PM
Not at all, actually. This is completely normal behavior during a cycle.

After a bull run, it is normal for a sideways shift to occur. It happened in 2022 after the 2021 bull run, remember that?

It just means the market is oversaturated right now, and people are waiting until later to buy.
What do you have to say about the bitcoin 10% dip in 24 hours, is it a clear indication that we are in the bear market now? While we are discussing extension of bitcoin cycle, bear market has taken us unaware.

Do you know why i may disagree with this, it was because the market dips to $74,500 and at the same time couldn't be prevented from going to $80,000 and we already saw it around $81,000 and that alone is the first conviction, also, assuming as it fell and then tries to rise but had a resistance above $80,000 then we may say truly we are now in the bear since or the market may choose it correction at this point forward under $80,000 but for now, lets wait to see the number of related bear we could have this month before we can conclude on where we are heading towards.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Z-tight on April 08, 2025, 12:50:20 AM
lets wait to see the number of related bear we could have this month before we can conclude on where we are heading towards.
A lot of bitcoiners are unsure of what direction we are heading right now and i completely understand. My recommendation as always is to be patient, if you are a long term investor, you don't need to fret or rush to make a decision, don't fall for fud and don't panic sell. If you wanna sell, it should be because you truly want to, not because you are scared.
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: Gposas on April 08, 2025, 10:14:18 AM

the altcoin season didn't come along while BTC pumped after the halving. that's one proof that cycle has already changed. thebear market coming again after a year is likely to come and if BTC bull run continues i guess the cycle for BTC is the only that has changed positively while not for altcoins.

BTC adoption has changed a lot in the macro level. with trump elevating it as one of the strategic reserves and institutions coming to accumulate, maybe we can see another ATH.

Bitcoin drives the entire crypto market, so once there is any mentioned of crypto circle, it is directly focus on the Bitcoin ecosystem. I doubt if Altcoins has separate circles, though each altcoins has a separate blockchain networks, but if they do have a circle, unfortunately, this circle are of no effect on the crypto market as far as I know
In addition, It is clear that altcoins has no direct control of the market but Bitcoin does control the market overtimes.
You are right but I believe in the past history of Bitcoin halving and it's circles, after a bullish move of Bitcoin there is also a corresponding Altcoin season. But as of last year till now, analyst has been speaking of the Altcoins season but it wasn't observed. This could be a slight factor to the topic above but a critical look shows a possible change already.
Or else I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Bobcrypto on April 08, 2025, 03:04:05 PM
lets wait to see the number of related bear we could have this month before we can conclude on where we are heading towards.
A lot of bitcoiners are unsure of what direction we are heading right now and i completely understand. My recommendation as always is to be patient, if you are a long term investor, you don't need to fret or rush to make a decision, don't fall for fud and don't panic sell. If you wanna sell, it should be because you truly want to, not because you are scared.

Fear has been the major reasons while many long term investors has taken some unnecessary investment decision that has lead to heavy losses. I have written on many post why the long term investors shouldn't worry about their investments when the markets goes dip or dump.

Long term investors should be confident knowing very well that their investments is targeted for many years, and they deserve to be patient, waiting in the future to reap from their investments.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: bayu7adi on April 09, 2025, 06:32:48 AM
Fear has been the major reasons while many long term investors has taken some unnecessary investment decision that has lead to heavy losses. I have written on many post why the long term investors shouldn't worry about their investments when the markets goes dip or dump.

Long term investors should be confident knowing very well that their investments is targeted for many years, and they deserve to be patient, waiting in the future to reap from their investments.
hold.. hold... hold... then die... living miserably holding BTC, but not enjoying the results..

actually it is not wrong to take advantage to appreciate ourselves for holding and being patient... yes, we all still need a salary and income to live and enjoy life, so actually patience in investing has its limits, not always holding until an undetermined time... we must still have a target when to stop and when to start again...

We can still sell our assets in a bear market, if it is very urgent, such as for sudden medical treatment where the emergency fund cannot cover everything.... teaching someone to hold is good, but as long as we don't understand each other's conditions, it is also not wise to place the blame on the person who sells during bearish times, because no one actually wants a loss...
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Kemarit on April 09, 2025, 07:12:03 AM
Fear has been the major reasons while many long term investors has taken some unnecessary investment decision that has lead to heavy losses. I have written on many post why the long term investors shouldn't worry about their investments when the markets goes dip or dump.

Long term investors should be confident knowing very well that their investments is targeted for many years, and they deserve to be patient, waiting in the future to reap from their investments.
hold.. hold... hold... then die... living miserably holding BTC, but not enjoying the results..

LOL, but that's true, we can't do anything but to hold right now. And this is what we call delay gratification, we might be suffering right now and our lives miserable, but once thing works out for us as the price goes up again to 6 digits, then we will have the last laugh.

So just be mentally strong and we can go over this problem together. It's that the Trump announcement on the whole tariff war that really affected every market out there not just crypto.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: LogitechMouse on April 09, 2025, 09:52:08 AM
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Again, 2025 is supposed to kick start bitcoin new circle but there are insinuation and speculations of a bear run, and because of this various market ideas, some market analysts suggest that Bitcoin four year circle is not ineffective as it used to be, the circle might have been permanently shifted,  some analyst insisted. What do you think?

Check here for details: https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-market-cycle-permanently-shifted-polygon-founder
As a believer of the 4-year cycle, I will only believe that things have changed if we will see the bear market this year happening sooner than many are expecting.

If we will follow the 4-year cycle, we expect that the year 2025 will be the year where the crypto market will go up significantly before entering the bear market season the next year. There are some things that could've been a factor towards the shift, but I don't think that they can change the market cycle of cryptocurrency. I might be wrong though and we might see a quicker bull run season that it used to be, or we might see a super cycle where it will last longer than we expected. Whatever the case is, I hope that we are all ready just in case things don't go well.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Faisal2202 on April 10, 2025, 06:39:27 PM
Your points also makes a lot of sense and that may also be considered. From speculations that the four years cycle has been shifted, and now the cycle been only related to Trump political period on seat, these are all speculations and until proven are just mere rumours. This should be regarded as a trap and people will fall for this trap because the market is already showing some signs of such. It is necessary that the market continues in this trajectory or people might fall victim of this trap before we realize.
The tariff war was a black swan event, and market dumped heavily but now it recovered to $83 which is a big jump which shows it can even make new ATH again in the second peak in no time and things can be very fast therefore anyone who plans to exit the market, IMO they should do it when they have the first chance.

I am trapped in the market for now, waiting for right moment to exit but it is not like, I did not see this trap coming, only I expected it to come later like in Q3, as according to past Q1 suppose to be the most bullish but it was a trap also. Therefore we should not expect much from the DT now, he is playing a big game.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: rby on April 10, 2025, 08:37:38 PM
lets wait to see the number of related bear we could have this month before we can conclude on where we are heading towards.
A lot of bitcoiners are unsure of what direction we are heading right now and i completely understand. My recommendation as always is to be patient, if you are a long term investor, you don't need to fret or rush to make a decision, don't fall for fud and don't panic sell. If you wanna sell, it should be because you truly want to, not because you are scared.
Same thing I told a friend: if you don’t have an urgent need to sell your bitcoins, keep holding and don’t panic. A lot is happening right now, and we can’t really tell which stage of the cycle we’re in now. But trust me, many will sell at a loss for no real reason, just fear!
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Agbe on April 14, 2025, 10:18:09 PM
I will not dispute on this fact though I have only spent one cycle in the ecosystem and from 2021 to 2025 many things have changed and people who have been in the system for a long time said the All Time High would come after the halving of 2024 but we saw it before the Halving and after the halving again so we don't know what will happen in the next four years cycle of bitcoin again. Whether the cycle will enter five years now or not because many things have changed in the bitcoin pricing system.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Jating on April 18, 2025, 12:30:25 PM
lets wait to see the number of related bear we could have this month before we can conclude on where we are heading towards.
A lot of bitcoiners are unsure of what direction we are heading right now and i completely understand. My recommendation as always is to be patient, if you are a long term investor, you don't need to fret or rush to make a decision, don't fall for fud and don't panic sell. If you wanna sell, it should be because you truly want to, not because you are scared.
Same thing I told a friend: if you don’t have an urgent need to sell your bitcoins, keep holding and don’t panic. A lot is happening right now, and we can’t really tell which stage of the cycle we’re in now. But trust me, many will sell at a loss for no real reason, just fear!
Good advise, we should live and die by it, just kidding, I mean there could be some emergencies in our life that we need to sell. But at the very least, learn to not to sell specially if the price is very low. Just like today, we are still -20% from the previous all time high. So just imagine selling at that price point, you are just losing the potential profit. Maybe you can just borrow to someone and then pay them right away instead of selling our Bitcoin that we have been keeping for a long time and allow others to "steal" it from us.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Kemarit on April 25, 2025, 04:23:41 AM
I will not dispute on this fact though I have only spent one cycle in the ecosystem and from 2021 to 2025 many things have changed and people who have been in the system for a long time said the All Time High would come after the halving of 2024 but we saw it before the Halving and after the halving again so we don't know what will happen in the next four years cycle of bitcoin again. Whether the cycle will enter five years now or not because many things have changed in the bitcoin pricing system.

The only thing that we have seen new is that we have a new all time high before the halving. But I still do believed that it might still follow the old pattern, as in the 4 year cycle will still be in effect.

Just like what we have seen in the last couple of days, there is a movement in price hitting as high as $95,000. So it means the bullish feeling of the investors is still here, they just want to see some positive news first before investing again.

So really too early to say that the cycle has shifted or new patterns emerging.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: TomPluz on April 25, 2025, 05:52:54 AM

Just like what we have seen in the last couple of days, there is a movement in price hitting as high as $95,000. So it means the bullish feeling of the investors is still here, they just want to see some positive news first before investing again. So really too early to say that the cycle has shifted or new patterns emerging.


That bullishness is not yet giving up and we have seen that in the past few days...and I am hoping that this can be extended far more even going into the $100K though am doubting if we are prepared for a new ATH. Still, we can never know what can be as the market is really frail and looking for some inspiration right now. The 4-year-cycle may still be working but we can only conclude on that maybe at the end of the year or early part of 2026. Personally, I prefer that Bitcoin would follow a new pattern instead of the cycle as the market is now very different compared to years ago.


Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Jating on April 25, 2025, 11:38:41 AM

Just like what we have seen in the last couple of days, there is a movement in price hitting as high as $95,000. So it means the bullish feeling of the investors is still here, they just want to see some positive news first before investing again. So really too early to say that the cycle has shifted or new patterns emerging.


That bullishness is not yet giving up and we have seen that in the past few days...and I am hoping that this can be extended far more even going into the $100K though am doubting if we are prepared for a new ATH. Still, we can never know what can be as the market is really frail and looking for some inspiration right now. The 4-year-cycle may still be working but we can only conclude on that maybe at the end of the year or early part of 2026. Personally, I prefer that Bitcoin would follow a new pattern instead of the cycle as the market is now very different compared to years ago.
We could have just hit a barrier at $95k, but it's good that there are no downward spiral after the barrier is not broken, we remain above $90k and as others might see it, still a good sign that the bulls in still inside the market. So it's hard to predict if there are a shift as we haven't seen it before, no precedence whatsoever. So with that, we can only hold for the position that we are bullish and that the price can still go on a massive rise just like the previous bull run years. Just a matter how big big the bull run will be or when we are going to see it.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: taufik123 on April 26, 2025, 09:48:32 PM
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So with that, we can only hold for the position that we are bullish and that the price can still go on a massive rise just like the previous bull run years. Just a matter how big big the bull run will be or when we are going to see it.
yes just need to wait for the bullrun to arrive and reach an even higher ATH than before.
The trend is still going pretty well, there's no FUD that makes the market worse and the policies Trump made hopefully won't affect the crypto market anymore.

Bitcoin is in good form at the moment, just have to wait and time will tell.
The new ATH and new hope will be a long journey for bitcoin.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Forsyth Jones on April 27, 2025, 11:25:49 PM
For me it still remains intact, what I'm noticing is that each new bitcoin cycle has lower historical highs than the previous ones. To reinforce the thesis of the so-called experts, this year needs to end in the red.  ::)


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yes just need to wait for the bullrun to arrive and reach an even higher ATH than before.
The trend is still going pretty well, there's no FUD that makes the market worse and the policies Trump made hopefully won't affect the crypto market anymore.

Bitcoin is in good form at the moment, just have to wait and time will tell.
The new ATH and new hope will be a long journey for bitcoin.
There is no FUD, but if Trump announces the tariffs again, it is enough to bring down the price of the markets. I hope that new traditional investors acquire maturity over time and understand that this tariff has no correlation with Bitcoin. In fact, they should buy more due to the political uncertainties caused by political fights and fear of recession.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: taufik123 on April 28, 2025, 09:16:30 PM
There is no FUD, but if Trump announces the tariffs again, it is enough to bring down the price of the markets. I hope that new traditional investors acquire maturity over time and understand that this tariff has no correlation with Bitcoin. In fact, they should buy more due to the political uncertainties caused by political fights and fear of recession.
Trump's policy of increasing tariffs against China has indeed had an impact on the global economy, including bitcoin.
But when the tariff war is over and returns to normal, everything will be fine as it is now.

There is no FUD and any policies from trump that have disrupted the global economy.
Now it's time for bitcoin to reach the new ATH faster.

Investors who exit first are likely to enter and bitcoin dominance increases and eventually when the dominance drops,
but the bitcoin price stabilizes above the new ATH, then the altcoin starts to recover.
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: Amug123 on April 28, 2025, 09:40:35 PM
some market analysts suggest that Bitcoin four year circle is not ineffective as it used to be, the circle might have been permanently shifted,  some analyst insisted. What do you think?

I started to realize that since the last halvening. I guess it was dkbit98 who posted a similar thought, and he shared why the halving is not much affecting the market. Before, the halving caused huge scarcity on the market. For example, if the block reward was 50 Bitcoin, it was reduced to 25 and then 12.5, and then 6.25. These sharp drops caused huge scarcity after a few months of the halving. But now most of the supply is on circulating already. There are only  a few percentage of Bitcoin left to mine and the scarcity won't increase much.
the Bitcoin halving in the market has evolved over the years, with most of the supply already circulating, the scarcity effect of halving may be less pronounced compared to previous circle. And The reduction in block reward still affects the revenue of minners and it has influenced market sentiment
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: JoyMarsha on April 28, 2025, 09:48:34 PM
Shifted to when(the four-year circle of Bitcoin)? That's the question to answer. Will there not be a bull run this year, as speculated? When then will the bull run happen since it is most people thought that Bitcoin would moon again. This year is not yet over for the Bitcoin price to skyrocket. Whether institution investors are coming into crypto, it doesn't change nor will it alter the four-year circle of Bitcoin
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: Forsyth Jones on April 29, 2025, 02:44:52 AM
Trump's policy of increasing tariffs against China has indeed had an impact on the global economy, including bitcoin.
But when the tariff war is over and returns to normal, everything will be fine as it is now.

There is no FUD and any policies from trump that have disrupted the global economy.
Now it's time for bitcoin to reach the new ATH faster.

Investors who exit first are likely to enter and bitcoin dominance increases and eventually when the dominance drops,
but the bitcoin price stabilizes above the new ATH, then the altcoin starts to recover.
The market is not like before, despite the 4-year cycle continuing to work or not, with the entry of the institutional, I realize that things are a little different, bitcoin continues to appreciate and correct whenever it can, but it is less volatile, although with fewer expressive highs and corrections as well.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 29, 2025, 11:58:36 AM
Shifted to when(the four-year circle of Bitcoin)? That's the question to answer. Will there not be a bull run this year, as speculated?
actually i have seen people speculate more about bitcoin not having a bear run anymore but i guess the speculations change easily depending on the current price so for example since bitcoin has recovered now and investors are feeling more confident than the past weeks there might be crazy speculations again but i believe bitcoin is not rising that high yet for people to speculate about a change in cycles
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This year is not yet over for the Bitcoin price to skyrocket. Whether institution investors are coming into crypto, it doesn't change nor will it alter the four-year circle of Bitcoin
people are impatient what do you expect? investors seem to always focus on the short term movements rather than look at the bigger picture which is observe how things will fall into place over long term
Title: Re: Bitcoin circle might have been shifted, says Analysts.
Post by: God Of Thunder on April 29, 2025, 02:02:48 PM
the Bitcoin halving in the market has evolved over the years, with most of the supply already circulating, the scarcity effect of halving may be less pronounced compared to previous circle. And The reduction in block reward still affects the revenue of minners and it has influenced market sentiment

Not maybe, I am sure that the effect of halving is not the same as before. Most of the Bitcoin supply is in circulation already. There are only a few left to add to the circulation. So, the scarcity won't increase dramatically. If scarcity does not increase, the demand will remain the same. No demand = No hype, and that means no pump.

But I believe the general Bitcoin demand is always there, which is enough to increase the Bitcoin price over time. But sometimes people like Trump can fluctuate the market a lot with their statements.
Title: Re: Analysts: Bitcoin cycle might have been shifted
Post by: taufik123 on April 29, 2025, 07:04:44 PM
The market is not like before, despite the 4-year cycle continuing to work or not, with the entry of the institutional, I realize that things are a little different, bitcoin continues to appreciate and correct whenever it can, but it is less volatile, although with fewer expressive highs and corrections as well.
Everything goes into crypto and exerts a lot of influence so that the 4-year cycle that was the most awaited moment is actually a different moment today.

Waiting for the price to rise during the halving but instead became a decline that could not even be predicted.
As in the title of this thread, the bitcoin cycle has shifted