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[Freemind]

User : Dark fundz + post history

This shill hid where few people look - is this kind of posting allowed on this board?
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In theory, and for the purposes of that board, those types of posts are not allowed, as far as I understand. Anyway, I'll check with the administrator and see what he says.

Thanks for letting me know anyway, I don't visit that board often.

+10 as stated here: Moving Karma and avoiding abuse.

[dragononcrypto]

User : Dark fundz + post history

This shill hid where few people look - is this kind of posting allowed on this board?

Not when the sole reason is to shill an exchange no, that's not helpful imo. It's as misleading as all the othery shillery.

Added to Misbehaving + shill group as clearly only here for one thing, posts #Trashed. +1 good catch

[Findingnemo]

User: AMEBO + Post History

Post: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=329259.msg1746941#msg1746941

Already got AI badge and now seems to be posting content about the BG on a thread where it is irrelevant and giving the links for pre staking and their tokens.

[Lucius]

User: AMEBO + Post History
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Note: Not Ai writer, sorting things out with the admin

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Disclaimer: Not a AI writer, I have been trying to reach out to the Admin,  but no reply.

Something tells me that this is the same owner - maybe the admin could check the IP address so the profiles get a few more badges - even though they are already completely destroyed.

[DYING_S0UL]

I understand what you're talking about, Lucius. The truth is, for some time now, whenever I see a new thread where a new account talks about BG, I almost always do the same thing, I close the thread (sometimes leaving a post in case the OP wants to contact me), but I don't delete the posts, as there are usually posts from other users that could be helpful. The only way I can think of to prevent this spam would be to take tougher measures, which sooner or later would end up being paid for by users who are not to blame for anything related to this problem.

In any process, someone innocent can get hurt, but I don't think that in this specific case we can accuse someone of being a shill by accident. What should be done is to issue only one warning, and after that issue a permanent ban - this would at least reduce the number of shills on the forum because they use their accounts as long as they are allowed to do so.

The oblivious ones should be banned. But for the rest of the accused (probably innocent), we have the mods for that don't we? And even if someone was mistakenly accused, if he really were innocent he wouldn't be caught the 2nd time. But what I have noticed, most of the users that we are reporting, already has multiple strikes, and doesn't care about the warnings. So I guess we are on the right track, no innocent is being harmed!

Anyway, I have been meaning to ask this for quite some time! Do you guys think that the shilling has decreased relatively compared to the past? I see fewer and fewer shillers these days, especially the newer ones.

[Freemind]

User: AMEBO + Post History

Post: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=329259.msg1746941#msg1746941

Already got AI badge and now seems to be posting content about the BG on a thread where it is irrelevant and giving the links for pre staking and their tokens.

The user received his third 20% warning and first strike.

Thank you Findingnemo.

+10 as stated here: Moving Karma and avoiding abuse.

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Note: Not Ai writer, sorting things out with the admin

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Disclaimer: Not a AI writer, I have been trying to reach out to the Admin,  but no reply.

Something tells me that this is the same owner - maybe the admin could check the IP address so the profiles get a few more badges - even though they are already completely destroyed.

Lucius, I see you have a good eye for users. You're absolutely right, and thanks to that, I managed to find a small farm that will be dismantled in the next few days.

Thank you.

+10 as stated here: Moving Karma and avoiding abuse.

[Findingnemo]

User: Philinfa + Post History

Link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=329264.msg1747065#msg1747065

If I am not wrong, this user received a warning recently, but again with the same BG event shilling today.

Anyway, I have been meaning to ask this for quite some time! Do you guys think that the shilling has decreased relatively compared to the past? I see fewer and fewer shillers these days, especially the newer ones.

I guess so, probably due to continuous reporting and their posts being moved to trash. These accounts must be handled by a few users, in my opinion, which is why they notice the reporting, take a break, and come back in other ways.

[dragononcrypto]

What should be done is to issue only one warning, and after that issue a permanent ban - this would at least reduce the number of shills on the forum because they use their accounts as long as they are allowed to do so.

This is more or less the idea. I usually warn first and then give shill badge, strike + misbehaving, so all posts are moderated. If that fails, then 3 strikes or UR prevents them from posting.

Usually in misbehaving shills give up, as mods (generally speaking, with rare exceptions) don't approve their posts to be seen on the forum.

If they are 100% only here for shilling, then I just put them straight in misbehaving with shill badge as much simpler these days.

[dragononcrypto]

User: Philinfa + Post History

Link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=329264.msg1747065#msg1747065

If I am not wrong, this user received a warning recently, but again with the same BG event shilling today

Correct, was previously warned twice. Added to shill, 2 strikes and misbehaving. Sent penalty notice and #trashed posts.

This is why I don't bother with two warnings prior to moderation, because it always leads to moderation with shills. Then new account etc.

[Lucius]

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Anyway, I have been meaning to ask this for quite some time! Do you guys think that the shilling has decreased relatively compared to the past? I see fewer and fewer shillers these days, especially the newer ones.

It doesn't seem to me that there are fewer compared to before, because if you look back 30 days and look at any month of last year, I think you will find similar numbers of reports. It may seem to you that there are fewer of them, but the fact is that they are constantly adapting and looking for ways to avoid detection.

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Lucius, I see you have a good eye for users. You're absolutely right, and thanks to that, I managed to find a small farm that will be dismantled in the next few days.

Thank you.

+10 as stated here: Moving Karma and avoiding abuse.

These shills may be persistent, but they're definitely not intelligent enough. In this specific case, he exposed himself with a completely meaningless sentence. I'm glad there will be at least one less alt farm

What should be done is to issue only one warning, and after that issue a permanent ban - this would at least reduce the number of shills on the forum because they use their accounts as long as they are allowed to do so.

This is more or less the idea. I usually warn first and then give shill badge, strike + misbehaving, so all posts are moderated. If that fails, then 3 strikes or UR prevents them from posting.

Usually in misbehaving shills give up, as mods (generally speaking, with rare exceptions) don't approve their posts to be seen on the forum.

If they are 100% only here for shilling, then I just put them straight in misbehaving with shill badge as much simpler these days.

I just think we all spend too much time on this kind of stuff, or give these shills too many warnings, instead of resolving it quickly and decisively. I know that the forum rules are currently like this, so we will have to be consistent if we want any success in this matter.

[Findingnemo]

User: BullTrader + Post History

Post:
1. https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=329378.msg1748346#msg1748346
2. https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=329378.msg1748277#msg1748277

Already got a strike under his profile, still not learning anything from the mistakes.

[Lucius]

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Already got a strike under his profile, still not learning anything from the mistakes.

These people are professional shills and cannot be expected to react to any warnings. We're fighting to ban one of their accounts, and every day he creates at least one new one and starts over.

[Findingnemo]

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Already got a strike under his profile, still not learning anything from the mistakes.

These people are professional shills and cannot be expected to react to any warnings. We're fighting to ban one of their accounts, and every day he creates at least one new one and starts over.

Yes, they can't be stopped, but we may tighten the rules. For example, if the user receives two warnings, then the user may be eligible for a temporary or permanent ban instead of waiting for the third and further. Also, here we have a rule like only one account per person, unlike Bitcoin Talk, where multiple accounts are allowed. So how does the admin find the abusers of multiple accounts? Just via IP...

[DYING_S0UL]

User: BullTrader + Post History

Post:
1. https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=329378.msg1748346#msg1748346
2. https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=329378.msg1748277#msg1748277

Already got a strike under his profile, still not learning anything from the mistakes.

This user still roams around shilling you know whom, doing thing which are not allowed, despite receiving multiple warnings, badges, tags for misbehaving and etc! I must say this is one stubborn shiller! And by the looks of it, he doesn't care and will continue to do so his dirty work as long is not banned!

Mods, any thoughts? Isn't he should be banned or at least temp ban for some time? For clearing his head! 

[Jokers]

User: BullTrader + Post History

Post:
1. https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=329378.msg1748346#msg1748346
2. https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=329378.msg1748277#msg1748277

Already got a strike under his profile, still not learning anything from the mistakes.

This user still roams around shilling you know whom, doing thing which are not allowed, despite receiving multiple warnings, badges, tags for misbehaving and etc! I must say this is one stubborn shiller! And by the looks of it, he doesn't care and will continue to do so his dirty work as long is not banned!

Mods, any thoughts? Isn't he should be banned or at least temp ban for some time? For clearing his head! 

Banned BullTrader for persistent shilling.

dragononcrypto, looks like Misbehaving group works for premoderation not everywhere on the forum?