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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1485 on: July 24, 2024, 07:33:07 PM »
Since most people believe that pre-season matches are considered not be a serious match for people to expect a club to always win, we will actually see how consistent Manchester City will be on there upcoming pre-season matches against Celtic, though we understand that in pre-season matches clubs test there new strategies and patterns to know what will work more better for them but that doesn't mean that they will not be consistent.
Match is over Manchester City 3 - 4 Celtic

The players were filled with youngsters as it was a pre-season game so it didn't really matter if they won or lost, there were a few senior players but none played the full game, 9 players were changed to try their skills on the pitch.

So don't be surprised if the big team loses to the small team that is common in pre-season matches, it's just that bettors are a little confused because they must mostly choose the favorite team while the results are not according to this which is difficult to predict.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1486 on: July 24, 2024, 10:24:46 PM »
Match is over Manchester City 3 - 4 Celtic

The players were filled with youngsters as it was a pre-season game so it didn't really matter if they won or lost, there were a few senior players but none played the full game, 9 players were changed to try their skills on the pitch.

So don't be surprised if the big team loses to the small team that is common in pre-season matches, it's just that bettors are a little confused because they must mostly choose the favorite team while the results are not according to this which is difficult to predict.

These games will always serve as a test for the bench players of every team. They will not be able to make pertinent decisions. I can say that while some players are Making themselves known and have this opportunity to play, it is so that the coach can see how they can serve him in a highly competitive game and what they can contribute when a starting player is injured. So for me these games are to adjust and not to measure the potential that the teams have.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1486 on: July 24, 2024, 10:24:46 PM »

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1487 on: July 24, 2024, 10:54:10 PM »
Match is over Manchester City 3 - 4 Celtic
Yesterday Liverpool and now Man City were beaten by small clubs in a friendly match. Yes, this is just a friendly match, so the efforts will also be very different from real matches. It seems like it's no longer a secret that for friendly matches like this, top high school clubs don't show their optimal performance at all. There are several pretty strong reasons. However, what matters most is the concern regarding players getting injured if they are too persistent throughout the friendly match, whereas they will not see any points here.


But it could be that Man City was also quite shocked by the result, because they didn't expect that their opponents would survive and even be that far ahead.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1488 on: July 24, 2024, 11:07:25 PM »
Match is over Manchester City 3 - 4 Celtic

The players were filled with youngsters as it was a pre-season game so it didn't really matter if they won or lost, there were a few senior players but none played the full game, 9 players were changed to try their skills on the pitch.

So don't be surprised if the big team loses to the small team that is common in pre-season matches, it's just that bettors are a little confused because they must mostly choose the favorite team while the results are not according to this which is difficult to predict.

These games will always serve as a test for the bench players of every team. They will not be able to make pertinent decisions. I can say that while some players are Making themselves known and have this opportunity to play, it is so that the coach can see how they can serve him in a highly competitive game and what they can contribute when a starting player is injured. So for me these games are to adjust and not to measure the potential that the teams have.
The games are for coaches to experiment their new tactics and see who among the young players can fit in to the first eleven squad if there is a  situation that calls for it. Also I see it as a means of those mediocre teams to play with strong teams and have some experience from them. I don't take these friendly matches serious because it cannot be used to determine the strength of a club.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1489 on: July 24, 2024, 11:15:55 PM »
The games are for coaches to experiment their new tactics and see who among the young players can fit in to the first eleven squad if there is a  situation that calls for it. Also I see it as a means of those mediocre teams to play with strong teams and have some experience from them. I don't take these friendly matches serious because it cannot be used to determine the strength of a club.
Yes, this is just for warming up, even some of the top clubs will not be that serious about this match, because it is prone to injury. Therefore, many top clubs don't seem to push too hard to win. For this Man City match, I didn't watch it. But it is true that statistically, the difference in the position of the ball and the attack is not that different. This makes the two of them compete quite well. especially for their opponent, Celtic, this does not make this small club become too inferior and hopeless just because they are having a friendly match against the top club in the EPL.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1490 on: July 24, 2024, 11:24:13 PM »
But it could be that Manchester City was also quite shocked by the result, because they didn't expect that their opponents would survive and even be that far ahead.
Celtic remains the only club that's Pep has a problem winning the number of times that they have met. I do not consider the loss of Manchester City to be a reason for alarm because the season has not yet started. Even if the season starts and Manchester City are not performing well at the beginning, I still will not cancel them as potential winners of the Premier League again because there is something about that team from the new year.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1491 on: July 24, 2024, 11:24:27 PM »
Match is over Manchester City 3 - 4 Celtic
Yesterday Liverpool and now Man City were beaten by small clubs in a friendly match. Yes, this is just a friendly match, so the efforts will also be very different from real matches. It seems like it's no longer a secret that for friendly matches like this, top high school clubs don't show their optimal performance at all. There are several pretty strong reasons. However, what matters most is the concern regarding players getting injured if they are too persistent throughout the friendly match, whereas they will not see any points here.


But it could be that Man City was also quite shocked by the result, because they didn't expect that their opponents would survive and even be that far ahead.
I don't think Manchester City will be shocked as they lost to Celtic(3-4). This is just a preseason match for them, a testing stage for most coaches to test the capability of their young players.

Big clubs will actually lose and win their most matches. When the main league match begins, they adjust their seat and sit up to give a fantastic performance because of their very match counts, it will not be taken for less preparedness to test players and match formation.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1492 on: July 24, 2024, 11:34:13 PM »
I don't think Manchester City will be shocked as they lost to Celtic(3-4). This is just a preseason match for them, a testing stage for most coaches to test the capability of their young players.
Yep. Why Man City must be shocked with the result? They only used most the players of second tier squad in the match. It totally doesn't reflect the strength of Man City squad. If they play with full squad and they play seriously, I am 100% sure they will win the match. Moreover, they have nothing to be achieved on the match, so they only enjoy the match and don't seriously think to win the match. Well, don't be so serious with a pre-season match!!   :D

Big clubs will actually lose and win their most matches. When the main league match begins, they adjust their seat and sit up to give a fantastic performance because of their very match counts, it will not be taken for less preparedness to test players and match formation.
Not every big club but some big clubs experienced it. It actually depends on the coach, whether they will play seriously in the match or not. If they won't play seriously, they will mostly use second tier players and never order the player to win the match. Some clubs may not show their strength during the pre-season matches. It is also a part of their tactic to win the next season competition.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1493 on: July 24, 2024, 11:42:18 PM »
Match is over Manchester City 3 - 4 Celtic

The players were filled with youngsters as it was a pre-season game so it didn't really matter if they won or lost, there were a few senior players but none played the full game, 9 players were changed to try their skills on the pitch.

So don't be surprised if the big team loses to the small team that is common in pre-season matches, it's just that bettors are a little confused because they must mostly choose the favorite team while the results are not according to this which is difficult to predict.
Pep Guardiola have interested promote youth players on pre season matches, its have 9 young players filled the starting line when Manchester City defeating by Celtic last match over 3-4.
Not problem for Pep Guardiola with bad result because he only think who the next potential young players will get promote next season and get more minutes playing.
I am enthusiast with Pep Guardiola tactician, he brave give more minutes playing to young players on pre season match without huge pressure must win.  Seems easily for Manchester City get young potential players promote to senior team every season and make top performance.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1494 on: July 25, 2024, 12:54:58 AM »
But it could be that Manchester City was also quite shocked by the result, because they didn't expect that their opponents would survive and even be that far ahead.
Celtic remains the only club that's Pep has a problem winning the number of times that they have met. I do not consider the loss of Manchester City to be a reason for alarm because the season has not yet started. Even if the season starts and Manchester City are not performing well at the beginning, I still will not cancel them as potential winners of the Premier League again because there is something about that team from the new year.
Apart from Haaland and two more players, the other players used by Guardiola are academy boys to play Celtic and besides this is a pre-season match, I don't understand why it's making so much waves. Is Manchester city immune to lossing?
I think they are just reserving their wins till when the main season will start. So we shouldn't be bothered about a rather stable team.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1495 on: July 25, 2024, 07:25:22 AM »
Apart from Haaland and two more players, the other players used by Guardiola are academy boys to play Celtic and besides this is a pre-season match, I don't understand why it's making so much waves. Is Manchester city immune to lossing?
I think they are just reserving their wins till when the main season will start. So we shouldn't be bothered about a rather stable team.

Yep. Pre-season is just entertaining for the fans and a friendly match
Pep is a great coach who prepares everything well before the real competition starts. Pre-season is the final evaluation for players and coaches to prepare all the scenarios needed to achieve maximum results in the match in the competition they will participate in.
So, relax, enjoy the season, and let Pep do his job. Judge him when his team loses in the real competition.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1496 on: July 25, 2024, 04:30:07 PM »
I'm starting to get used to the results of pre-season matches which often feature the favorite team losing. And today even the two favorite teams only got a draw, namely Arsenal, who only managed to get a draw in the pre-season match against Bournemouth in normal time but both teams tried a penalty shootout and the result was that Arsenal won in the penalty shootout. Then Chelsea also got a draw in the pre-season match against Wrexham. And this was Enzo's first debut as a coach there and for several young players who had just arrived at the club. Even though the result was a draw, I saw that Chelsea played very well.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1497 on: July 26, 2024, 09:39:32 AM »
I'm starting to get used to the results of pre-season matches which often feature the favorite team losing. And today even the two favorite teams only got a draw, namely Arsenal, who only managed to get a draw in the pre-season match against Bournemouth in normal time but both teams tried a penalty shootout and the result was that Arsenal won in the penalty shootout. Then Chelsea also got a draw in the pre-season match against Wrexham. And this was Enzo's first debut as a coach there and for several young players who had just arrived at the club. Even though the result was a draw, I saw that Chelsea played very well.

Lesley Ugochukwu scored his first goal for Chelsea against Wrexham in Santa Clara.
The French midfielder composed a left-footed finish into the far corner helping Chelsea equalize late in the game. This goal marks a promising start for Lesley in his Chelsea career.
The Blues cooking, there are improvements that the Maresca system brings to the team but I doubt the food will be done.
Enzo needs to do more if they want to get something this season.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1498 on: July 26, 2024, 02:15:34 PM »
I'm starting to get used to the results of pre-season matches which often feature the favorite team losing. And today even the two favorite teams only got a draw, namely Arsenal, who only managed to get a draw in the pre-season match against Bournemouth in normal time but both teams tried a penalty shootout and the result was that Arsenal won in the penalty shootout. Then Chelsea also got a draw in the pre-season match against Wrexham. And this was Enzo's first debut as a coach there and for several young players who had just arrived at the club. Even though the result was a draw, I saw that Chelsea played very well.
Very often I see things like this, because they are not really serious in the pre-season match, where they only test the readiness of the strategy and also the players they have.

Many teams get negative results during the pre-season match, but when they are in the real competition they can show their real game which can perform well and also consistently. So the pre-season cannot be used as a benchmark for a team's performance when in the competition.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #1499 on: July 26, 2024, 02:51:32 PM »
It looks like Arsenal has succeeded in bringing in another new player in the transfer market. And this time Arsenal brought in Riccardo Calafiori from Bologna. He is a defender who can be expected to strengthen Arsenal's back line. but currently Arsenal actually has quite a lot of quality defenders. So I started to question whose position would be threatened by the presence of Riccardo Calafiori in the Arsenal squad. But I received news that one of the current Arsenal players wants to go to Inter Milan. He is Jakub Kiwior. Because he seems to realize that his playing time next season with Arsenal could be reduced when Arsenal bring in new defenders. So if he wants to remain a player who gets a lot of playing time then he really has to start thinking about moving to a team that is ready to make him a main player and Inter Milan is reportedly the club that now wants this player.

 

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