[Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread

[LUCKMCFLY]

Apart from Haaland and two more players, the other players used by Guardiola are academy boys to play Celtic and besides this is a pre-season match, I don't understand why it's making so much waves. Is Manchester city immune to lossing?
I think they are just reserving their wins till when the main season will start. So we shouldn't be bothered about a rather stable team.

Yep. Pre-season is just entertaining for the fans and a friendly match
Pep is a great coach who prepares everything well before the real competition starts. Pre-season is the final evaluation for players and coaches to prepare all the scenarios needed to achieve maximum results in the match in the competition they will participate in.
So, relax, enjoy the season, and let Pep do his job. Judge him when his team loses in the real competition.

Pre-seasons are the games that can give the most random results , I'm not one of those who trust in it, because it's basically to test the abilities of other players and to show that they can apply many strategies to benefit many more, here you can see the Potential that the players and the Coach have in general, it's not bad, it's always the best option to make things easy, I personally don't get my hopes up about any score, I know they can vary, therefore I don't make and Don't dare to make bets.

[Rruchi man]

It looks like Arsenal has succeeded in bringing in another new player in the transfer market. And this time Arsenal brought in Riccardo Calafiori from Bologna. He is a defender who can be expected to strengthen Arsenal's back line. but currently Arsenal actually has quite a lot of quality defenders. So I started to question whose position would be threatened by the presence of Riccardo Calafiori in the Arsenal squad. But I received news that one of the current Arsenal players wants to go to Inter Milan. He is Jakub Kiwior. Because he seems to realize that his playing time next season with Arsenal could be reduced when Arsenal bring in new defenders. So if he wants to remain a player who gets a lot of playing time then he really has to start thinking about moving to a team that is ready to make him a main player and Inter Milan is reportedly the club that now wants this player.

Calafiori will provide the same services that Ben White provides for Saka on the other side of the field. Based on his ability to go forward and also track back to defense quickly, he would make the left wing of the Arsenal team more effective next season for Martinelli or Trossard. From the outside, it may seem like the signing of this new defender is not what Arsenal really needs right now, but I believe the coach has his reasons, and based on the number of competitions that we will be in next season, it is also wise to reinforce his defensive line.

[Zed0X]

Don't worry too much about pre-seasons because this is mostly experimental stage for the managers and players. Do not even bet on them. I'm amazed how there are people who try to profit from these games.

[sampoerna]

Pre-seasons are the games that can give the most random results , I'm not one of those who trust in it, because it's basically to test the abilities of other players and to show that they can apply many strategies to benefit many more, here you can see the Potential that the players and the Coach have in general, it's not bad, it's always the best option to make things easy, I personally don't get my hopes up about any score, I know they can vary, therefore I don't make and Don't dare to make bets.

Makes sense.
This is just like a formality to do this match. It is proven that many top clubs do it not optimally, because they are worried about injuries, so they understand the condition very well and it is better not to be that optimal.

Even Man City and Liverpool also lost to small clubs and that cannot be considered a benchmark. Because if in the EPL league match, the two clubs will definitely compete much more optimally to get points. While in a match like this there is no significance for them to appear very stubbornly and very optimally which could be dangerous for them, to avoid all injuries.

[bounceback]

Makes sense.
This is just like a formality to do this match. It is proven that many top clubs do it not optimally, because they are worried about injuries, so they understand the condition very well and it is better not to be that optimal.

Even Man City and Liverpool also lost to small clubs and that cannot be considered a benchmark. Because if in the EPL league match, the two clubs will definitely compete much more optimally to get points. While in a match like this there is no significance for them to appear very stubbornly and very optimally which could be dangerous for them, to avoid all injuries.

Pre season matches is not priority of Premier League teams by using their second composition players avoid with injuries for their key players, most of teams only have decision with commission fees from pre season match without take care have to win all matches. Recently match, Manchester City and Liverpool are top premier league teams have loss but its not problem for them most of youth players get regular position.

Manchester City will face Milan on next pre season match, I sure both team will not use their all key player for this match indeed both of them are top team how to avoid big risk later if their players get injury.

[koang]

Don't worry too much about pre-seasons because this is mostly experimental stage for the managers and players. Do not even bet on them. I'm amazed how there are people who try to profit from these games.

Yep. Betting on pre-season games is a bad decision.
Now is the time to research, and watch the club's movements in the transfer market, new players, and new coach.
Research to see the readiness of the club to undergo real competition next season.
So relax and keep watching, August is just around the corner and the best competition in the world is about to roll out.

[salad daging]

Don't worry too much about pre-seasons because this is mostly experimental stage for the managers and players. Do not even bet on them. I'm amazed how there are people who try to profit from these games.

Yep. Betting on pre-season games is a bad decision.
Now is the time to research, and watch the club's movements in the transfer market, new players, and new coach.
Research to see the readiness of the club to undergo real competition next season.
So relax and keep watching, August is just around the corner and the best competition in the world is about to roll out.

It's scary to bet on a pre-season match that the favored team can lose, while they think it's an entertainment match instead of the real thing.
I myself would rather take a break and prepare the bankroll to return to betting when the league starts, because it will be very interesting for the early matches still we will bet on the favorite team even if they lose in the pre-season, I don't see it as a profitable match for us.

[Uruhara]

It looks like Arsenal has succeeded in bringing in another new player in the transfer market. And this time Arsenal brought in Riccardo Calafiori from Bologna. He is a defender who can be expected to strengthen Arsenal's back line. but currently Arsenal actually has quite a lot of quality defenders. So I started to question whose position would be threatened by the presence of Riccardo Calafiori in the Arsenal squad. But I received news that one of the current Arsenal players wants to go to Inter Milan. He is Jakub Kiwior. Because he seems to realize that his playing time next season with Arsenal could be reduced when Arsenal bring in new defenders. So if he wants to remain a player who gets a lot of playing time then he really has to start thinking about moving to a team that is ready to make him a main player and Inter Milan is reportedly the club that now wants this player.

Calafiori will provide the same services that Ben White provides for Saka on the other side of the field. Based on his ability to go forward and also track back to defense quickly, he would make the left wing of the Arsenal team more effective next season for Martinelli or Trossard. From the outside, it may seem like the signing of this new defender is not what Arsenal really needs right now, but I believe the coach has his reasons, and based on the number of competitions that we will be in next season, it is also wise to reinforce his defensive line.

I'm starting to like how the Arsenal club is slowly continuing to improve the quality of their squad. Every season we can always see clear developments in the depth of the Arsenal squad. And the quality of their play every season always improves quite rapidly. All of this is thanks to their talented young coach, Arteta, and also because of the support of the club who always trusts Arteta in the process of forming the Arsenal squad slowly from season to season. Maybe this season Arsenal will only add a few new players because they already have quite good squad depth. And I think that's enough.

[UNIVERSE]

I'm starting to like how the Arsenal club is slowly continuing to improve the quality of their squad. Every season we can always see clear developments in the depth of the Arsenal squad. And the quality of their play every season always improves quite rapidly. All of this is thanks to their talented young coach, Arteta, and also because of the support of the club who always trusts Arteta in the process of forming the Arsenal squad slowly from season to season. Maybe this season Arsenal will only add a few new players because they already have quite good squad depth. And I think that's enough.

Arsenal management is quite good in improving the quality of their squad. We can see many young players with great ability in Arsenal squad. Their performance is also quite consistent, they always become the runner-up in the last 2 seasons. In the next season, Arsenal is also a candidate of EPL winner. This is what we couldn't see in the past, the current Arsenal squad is very competitive. I'm sure Arsenal can win EPL someday if Arteta can continue to manage Arsenal for a long time. In UCL, they may be not very impressive but they should perform better gradually.

[ajiz138]

I'm starting to like how the Arsenal club is slowly continuing to improve the quality of their squad. Every season we can always see clear developments in the depth of the Arsenal squad. And the quality of their play every season always improves quite rapidly. All of this is thanks to their talented young coach, Arteta, and also because of the support of the club who always trusts Arteta in the process of forming the Arsenal squad slowly from season to season. Maybe this season Arsenal will only add a few new players because they already have quite good squad depth. And I think that's enough.

Arsenal management is quite good in improving the quality of their squad. We can see many young players with great ability in Arsenal squad. Their performance is also quite consistent, they always become the runner-up in the last 2 seasons. In the next season, Arsenal is also a candidate of EPL winner. This is what we couldn't see in the past, the current Arsenal squad is very competitive. I'm sure Arsenal can win EPL someday if Arteta can continue to manage Arsenal for a long time. In UCL, they may be not very impressive but they should perform better gradually.

Arsenal's management habit is to give their coaches a very long chance, including Mikel Arteta. If they can't wait for developments, what happens is what we see at Chelsea, which changes coaches almost every season.

The reason is, if we look at the beginning of Arteta's coaching, if Arsenal wanted, they could have fired him in a short time. However, they appreciate the process that has been passed, so they have reached this point.

[Sim_card]

I'm starting to like how the Arsenal club is slowly continuing to improve the quality of their squad. Every season we can always see clear developments in the depth of the Arsenal squad. And the quality of their play every season always improves quite rapidly. All of this is thanks to their talented young coach, Arteta, and also because of the support of the club who always trusts Arteta in the process of forming the Arsenal squad slowly from season to season. Maybe this season Arsenal will only add a few new players because they already have quite good squad depth. And I think that's enough.

Arsenal management is quite good in improving the quality of their squad. We can see many young players with great ability in Arsenal squad. Their performance is also quite consistent, they always become the runner-up in the last 2 seasons. In the next season, Arsenal is also a candidate of EPL winner. This is what we couldn't see in the past, the current Arsenal squad is very competitive. I'm sure Arsenal can win EPL someday if Arteta can continue to manage Arsenal for a long time. In UCL, they may be not very impressive but they should perform better gradually.

Arsenal's management habit is to give their coaches a very long chance, including Mikel Arteta. If they can't wait for developments, what happens is what we see at Chelsea, which changes coaches almost every season.

The reason is, if we look at the beginning of Arteta's coaching, if Arsenal wanted, they could have fired him in a short time. However, they appreciate the process that has been passed, so they have reached this point.

Arsene Wenger used Arsenal for business and the management are now used to that pattern with the fans of not being too eager to make changes because they believe that it can be achieved gradually. Moreover, they are not use to lifting EPL trophy and that is why they are also patient with whoever is their coach. Arteta is a good coach and he has gradually built the team to this level. One thing they lack is the mentality of winning EPL.

[bounceback]

Arsenal management is quite good in improving the quality of their squad. We can see many young players with great ability in Arsenal squad. Their performance is also quite consistent, they always become the runner-up in the last 2 seasons. In the next season, Arsenal is also a candidate of EPL winner. This is what we couldn't see in the past, the current Arsenal squad is very competitive. I'm sure Arsenal can win EPL someday if Arteta can continue to manage Arsenal for a long time. In UCL, they may be not very impressive but they should perform better gradually.

Mikel Arteta quit well when promoting young players to senior team and success make Arsenal had consistent performance last two season pressure Manchester City on the top standings. next season, Arsenal have started sign top players after reach agreement with Riccardo Calafiori and make Arsenal's defense more solid than last season. Talking about opportunity as Premier League winner candidate depend on Arsenal performance keep consistent or not. In this season, Arsenal can lead top standings position more longer than Manchester City but loss consistent performance on many crucial matches make the first position taken by Citizen.

[sampoerna]

Makes sense.
This is just like a formality to do this match. It is proven that many top clubs do it not optimally, because they are worried about injuries, so they understand the condition very well and it is better not to be that optimal.

Pre season matches is not priority of Premier League teams by using their second composition players avoid with injuries for their key players, most of teams only have decision with commission fees from pre season match without take care have to win all matches. Recently match, Manchester City and Liverpool are top premier league teams have loss but its not problem for them most of youth players get regular position.

Indeed, it is not their priority and it is not even a very deep thought for the club. It's just that for the fans and also the haters, it becomes news that is constantly being talked about. I don't know, but if we talk about the controversies between fans and haters, it won't work. And what is certain is that the clubs have now started training and their respective coaches know what to prepare and what to optimize. Moreover, there are many clubs that are still in the process of finalizing players and negotiating players from other clubs who want to be brought to their club. So, it is still progressing.

[koang]

Indeed, it is not their priority and it is not even a very deep thought for the club. It's just that for the fans and also the haters, it becomes news that is constantly being talked about. I don't know, but if we talk about the controversies between fans and haters, it won't work. And what is certain is that the clubs have now started training and their respective coaches know what to prepare and what to optimize. Moreover, there are many clubs that are still in the process of finalizing players and negotiating players from other clubs who want to be brought to their club. So, it is still progressing.

Good and bad results from a match will always be the news but remember, it’s a pre-season.
Preseason is for testing out things, and again this is a preseason game, not all players have what it takes to execute tactics and plans.
We can’t see anything yet, there’s more to come, something that will be fixed with more tactical training, This will make the team build character early before the season starts.
And you are right, it is still a work in progress

[bounceback]

Good and bad results from a match will always be the news but remember, it’s a pre-season.
Preseason is for testing out things, and again this is a preseason game, not all players have what it takes to execute tactics and plans.
We can’t see anything yet, there’s more to come, something that will be fixed with more tactical training, This will make the team build character early before the season starts.
And you are right, it is still a work in progress

Not problem for Manchester City bad remember with pre season matches after two losses, many team not priority with the result of pre season match and Pep Guardiola always make rotation last two matches. There are not key players yet and some players play with national teams such as Rodri and De Bruyne still not return back to the club.
Pre season only for giving more minutes to young players and they are already when the competition begin if any key players get injury, in two pre season match Manchester City have dominance with young players and only three senior players from Haaland, Jack Grealish get minutes playing.