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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2910 on: January 08, 2025, 11:22:37 PM »
Any thoughts on Arsenal losing the 1 leg EFL cup semi-final game to Newcastle 0-2 in front of their own audience? Is it because they didn't take it seriously (they had some players from the bench) or is Newcastle just overall a better team recently.
I know the EFL cup is not a priority for the top Premier League clubs, but it would be strange to get this far to just drop out without a fight.

Meanwhile, Tottenham just took a 1-0 lead against Liverpool in today's game.

Both teams came with a strong lineup, the only player that was missing on Arsenal side is Saka it was a game both teams really wanted to win, the only trophy either team could win this season so they were 100% up for it. It's priority for both teams but Newcastle are on a 8 games win streaks and are in a better shape than Arsenal currently.

A big 2 goals advantage and half leg into the final except Arsenal can pull a strong 3 goals comeback in the second leg.

Advantage Tottenham going into the second leg too.
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2911 on: January 09, 2025, 01:51:52 PM »
Tottenham managed to beat Liverpool in the EFL with a score of 1-0

The results were beyond predictions. because I hope Liverpool can get lots of trophies this season. And I also want to see Liverpool succeed in the EFL this season, just like last season. But yeah, this season it seems Liverpool also has more important priorities, namely the UCL and the Premier League. and losing in this match in my opinion is not a big problem. And it also doesn't mean that this team is starting to lose its performance. because I am sure that in the UCL and in the Premier League Liverpool will continue to play better. Hopefully what happened to Man City does not happen to Liverpool. This way Liverpool will be able to focus more on bigger competitions.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2912 on: January 09, 2025, 02:20:43 PM »
Tottenham managed to beat Liverpool in the EFL with a score of 1-0

The results were beyond predictions. because I hope Liverpool can get lots of trophies this season. And I also want to see Liverpool succeed in the EFL this season, just like last season. But yeah, this season it seems Liverpool also has more important priorities, namely the UCL and the Premier League. and losing in this match in my opinion is not a big problem. And it also doesn't mean that this team is starting to lose its performance. because I am sure that in the UCL and in the Premier League Liverpool will continue to play better. Hopefully what happened to Man City does not happen to Liverpool. This way Liverpool will be able to focus more on bigger competitions.
This is the season for Liverpool to shine and I don't think anyone can stop their shine. Manchester City era is over and that's why you see them in such poor performance. Losing to Tottenham doesn't mean that they have decline in form or that they wouldn't do better in other competitions. However, I never expected a lost from Liverpool and Arsenal but expect the unexpected in football.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2913 on: January 09, 2025, 03:40:27 PM »
This is the season for Liverpool to shine and I don't think anyone can stop their shine. Manchester City era is over and that's why you see them in such poor performance. Losing to Tottenham doesn't mean that they have decline in form or that they wouldn't do better in other competitions. However, I never expected a lost from Liverpool and Arsenal but expect the unexpected in football.
This wonderful season for Liverpool after success reaching the top standings and keep consistent performance for the first half season, usually get difficulty for any premier league teams how to defend keep consistent performance at second half season because having many crucial matches.
Have one match left and 6 points remaining awhile from Arsenal actually not comfortable yet for Liverpool if want get Premier League tittle race in this season, loss three points last match after being draw by Manchester United become bad result and must return back to win trend for upcoming match.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2914 on: January 09, 2025, 04:04:40 PM »
This is the season for Liverpool to shine and I don't think anyone can stop their shine. Manchester City era is over and that's why you see them in such poor performance. Losing to Tottenham doesn't mean that they have decline in form or that they wouldn't do better in other competitions. However, I never expected a lost from Liverpool and Arsenal but expect the unexpected in football.
This wonderful season for Liverpool after success reaching the top standings and keep consistent performance for the first half season, usually get difficulty for any premier league teams how to defend keep consistent performance at second half season because having many crucial matches.
Have one match left and 6 points remaining awhile from Arsenal actually not comfortable yet for Liverpool if want get Premier League tittle race in this season, loss three points last match after being draw by Manchester United become bad result and must return back to win trend for upcoming match.
And what is more impressive is that they are working with a new coach after working with Jurgen Klopp for so long. Honestly, I didn't expect them to be able to adapt to a new coach this quickly.

Here I see the intelligence of Arne Slot too, because somehow he seems to have managed to get through the adaptation so quickly. yes I say this is fast because from the beginning of the season they have stepped on the gas to create a good game.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2915 on: January 09, 2025, 05:21:54 PM »
Tottenham managed to beat Liverpool in the EFL with a score of 1-0

The results were beyond predictions. because I hope Liverpool can get lots of trophies this season. And I also want to see Liverpool succeed in the EFL this season, just like last season. But yeah, this season it seems Liverpool also has more important priorities, namely the UCL and the Premier League. and losing in this match in my opinion is not a big problem. And it also doesn't mean that this team is starting to lose its performance. because I am sure that in the UCL and in the Premier League Liverpool will continue to play better. Hopefully what happened to Man City does not happen to Liverpool. This way Liverpool will be able to focus more on bigger competitions.

Yep. UCL and the Premier League are the priority but Liverpool must sign at least one player, renew the big three immediately, and no more conceding goals like they have been doing in the last few games. That's not a good sign.
United and Spurs both threatened Liverpool at the back but the Liverpool defence looked lacklustre... Other players need to contribute and not just rely on certain individuals.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2916 on: January 09, 2025, 09:31:20 PM »
This is the season for Liverpool to shine and I don't think anyone can stop their shine. Manchester City era is over and that's why you see them in such poor performance. Losing to Tottenham doesn't mean that they have decline in form or that they wouldn't do better in other competitions. However, I never expected a lost from Liverpool and Arsenal but expect the unexpected in football.

Manchester City has made Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester United like club that are not existing but I'm glad Liverpool has change that narrative now. They are not backing down for anyone and no club is at the top of the league that will challenge them but in disappointed on how how they lose to Tottenham yesterday in the EFL CUP semi final, such team suppose to be hot cake and not give room for other things.

This was how Manchester City was forming dominance and been fear among other teams. Losing against Tottenham will make them weak in the eyes of other teams and probably, they can pull the same energy to win them in the subsequent matches even if they dominate the game in everything .
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2917 on: January 09, 2025, 10:05:21 PM »
Manchester City has made Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester United like club that are not existing but I'm glad Liverpool has change that narrative now. They are not backing down for anyone and no club is at the top of the league that will challenge them but in disappointed on how how they lose to Tottenham yesterday in the EFL CUP semi final, such team suppose to be hot cake and not give room for other things.
The defeat in the EFL yesterday was not a big problem because some teams rotated their players not to appear full so it is natural if Liverpool but there is still a chance to win in the second leg at Anfield.
Although in the Premier league Liverpool points remain far away they still have to win because the league is still long all possibilities can happen as long as no one is injured from the main players.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2918 on: January 09, 2025, 11:11:35 PM »
Manchester City has made Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester United like club that are not existing but I'm glad Liverpool has change that narrative now. They are not backing down for anyone and no club is at the top of the league that will challenge them but in disappointed on how how they lose to Tottenham yesterday in the EFL CUP semi final, such team suppose to be hot cake and not give room for other things.

This was how Manchester City was forming dominance and been fear among other teams. Losing against Tottenham will make them weak in the eyes of other teams and probably, they can pull the same energy to win them in the subsequent matches even if they dominate the game in everything .
In my personal opinion I think we shouldn't over expectation from the Manchester City because even there made some good performance and winning I think they could only able to push up themselves only to more step ahead like they can  move forward by beheading the NewCastle United and the Chelsea club and after that they will have to stop because nothingham forest have 40 point and and they have only 34points. So it would be still quite hard for Manchester City to become the fear of this season.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2919 on: January 09, 2025, 11:42:42 PM »
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A big 2 goals advantage and half leg into the final except Arsenal can pull a strong 3 goals comeback in the second leg.
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It was also a bit humiliating to lose at home, but, in Arsenal's defence, they dominated with 70% possession and almost three times more shots on goal than Newcastle. But, at the end of the day, it's the goals that count.
Anyhow, the bookies do not give them much chances to qualify for the final. The odds for that to happen are x4.80, odds for Newcastle: x1.16. This says a lot.
Although 0-2 is not impossible to come back from, the fact that they'll be playing away and that Newcastle is on fire with seven wins in a row will make it close to impossible.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2920 on: January 09, 2025, 11:45:22 PM »
The defeat in the EFL yesterday was not a big problem because some teams rotated their players not to appear full so it is natural if Liverpool but there is still a chance to win in the second leg at Anfield.
Tottenham will play more with the intention to win because that is the only trophy they have the chance to win this season, and Liverpool may decide to be more conservative to make sure they don't have their players burn out.
Everton now sacked Sean Dyche, fear of relegation perhaps. West also have appointed Graham Potter as their new coach after Lopetegui's sack.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2921 on: January 09, 2025, 11:46:39 PM »
A big 2 goals advantage and half leg into the final except Arsenal can pull a strong 3 goals comeback in the second leg.

Advantage Tottenham going into the second leg too.
Indeed, the results of the semi-final matches in the EFL Cup were quite surprising. Arsenal lost to Newcastle and Liverpool lost to Tottenham. Even though both Liverpool and Arsenal were very attacking, and they played very well. However, they could not optimize the chances in the attack area. and failed, again and again failed repeatedly. In fact, they could not ward off the counter attack launched by their opponents.

yes, hopefully in the second leg, Arsenal and Liverpool can win big. I really want to see the final between Arsenal vs Liverpool

but we'll just have to wait and see
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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2922 on: January 10, 2025, 12:06:01 PM »
Tottenham managed to beat Liverpool in the EFL with a score of 1-0

The results were beyond predictions. because I hope Liverpool can get lots of trophies this season. And I also want to see Liverpool succeed in the EFL this season, just like last season. But yeah, this season it seems Liverpool also has more important priorities, namely the UCL and the Premier League. and losing in this match in my opinion is not a big problem. And it also doesn't mean that this team is starting to lose its performance. because I am sure that in the UCL and in the Premier League Liverpool will continue to play better. Hopefully what happened to Man City does not happen to Liverpool. This way Liverpool will be able to focus more on bigger competitions.
Yep. UCL and the Premier League are the priority but Liverpool must sign at least one player, renew the big three immediately, and no more conceding goals like they have been doing in the last few games. That's not a good sign.
United and Spurs both threatened Liverpool at the back but the Liverpool defence looked lacklustre... Other players need to contribute and not just rely on certain individuals.

Well you are right about that point. Because we know this team didn't make any changes after Kloop left. Likewise in the depth of the squad. So bringing in new players can actually start to be done. but regarding failure in the EFL I don't think it's a big problem for Liverpool. And I think Liverpool are also still fine with their performance. Even though Liverpool didn't manage to win in the last two matches, at least in the Premier League they still maintained their record of only losing 1 game all season in the Premier League. so I'm still optimistic about this team.

But I hope Liverpool won't lose in the FA Cup. because if they also lose in the FA Cup then it will not be good at all for the mentality of their players. I'm afraid their squad is experiencing a decline in confidence. Because usually a series of declines in performance always start as a result of an unexpected defeat which makes the players lose confidence. I hope Arne Slot is able to maintain the mentality of the Liverpool players to remain strong and continue to move forward and win many trophies this season. After the match against Accrington in the Fa Cup, Liverpool will compete in the Premier League against Nottingham. And I hope Liverpool will be careful in this match. because we all now know that Nottingham's strength really cannot be underestimated this season. And this team is also the only team that managed to beat Liverpool at the start of this season.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2923 on: January 10, 2025, 01:48:27 PM »
Tottenham will play more with the intention to win because that is the only trophy they have the chance to win this season, and Liverpool may decide to be more conservative to make sure they don't have their players burn out.
Everton now sacked Sean Dyche, fear of relegation perhaps. West also have appointed Graham Potter as their new coach after Lopetegui's sack.
No doubt, high intention for winning their first trophy in this season after long time waiting for Tottenham Hotspur and have capital after winning one goals seems enough to secure winning trend or being draw at second leg match. In other side, Newcastle United have better match after winning two goals over Arsenal and looks easily for second leg match get draw or loss under two goals.
Actually between Newcastle or Tottenham have high target for winning EFL Cup because both teams only this trophy opportunity for winning in this season.

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Re: [Football] English Premier League Betting & Discussion Thread
« Reply #2924 on: January 10, 2025, 03:02:20 PM »
A big 2 goals advantage and half leg into the final except Arsenal can pull a strong 3 goals comeback in the second leg.

Advantage Tottenham going into the second leg too.
Indeed, the results of the semi-final matches in the EFL Cup were quite surprising. Arsenal lost to Newcastle and Liverpool lost to Tottenham. Even though both Liverpool and Arsenal were very attacking, and they played very well. However, they could not optimize the chances in the attack area. and failed, again and again failed repeatedly. In fact, they could not ward off the counter attack launched by their opponents.

yes, hopefully in the second leg, Arsenal and Liverpool can win big. I really want to see the final between Arsenal vs Liverpool

but we'll just have to wait and see
Yes, this is a slightly surprising result, because the 2 teams that were actually favorites to win actually had to suffer defeat. However, they are not completely finished, because there is still the second leg that they have to play.

In the second leg, it is not impossible that the score will turn around. I think the two teams that now have the advantage will try to play more defensively to secure the victory. It is definitely risky, but if you play openly, it also has the same big risk.

 

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