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[Cantsay]

I don't know if it was resolved by the Unijoin team back then or not but as far as I remember then the issue was either solved or you maybe right the guy might be someone to defame the mixer at that time.

The guy (Jessuni) never provided any evidence as regards his claim, he only just wewent ahead and generously donated +10 ETH to the forum - after being pressured by forum members to show us proof that he actually used the the service he disappear (that's not something that someone who lost that kind of amount would do).

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I don't know if it was resolved by the Unijoin team back then or not but as far as I remember then the issue was either solved or you maybe right the guy might be someone to defame the mixer at that time.

The guy (Jessuni) never provided any evidence as regards his claim, he only just wewent ahead and generously donated +10 ETH to the forum - after being pressured by forum members to show us proof that he actually used the the service he disappear (that's not something that someone who lost that kind of amount would do).

It is still not clear how someone who lost 10-15BTC, accepted it so easily, and added 10 ETH to that loss
In theory, 10 ETH has covered just a few weeks of the signature campaign on Bitcointalk. Looking at it from a competitor's point of view, it is not too much money to weaken a direct competitor. But that's just a theory.

[Kemarit]

Just use the correct one, is simple in my vision.

Yeah it is that simple, and after using the correct website, it is important to bookmark it. That's the mistake some people make, they do not bookmark it, instead they try to type it whenever they want to access the website, and they can easily land into a cloned site in that way.

Yes, bookmark is one tool that we can used, but most of the time majority here might not used this tool afterall, either we forget or we don't what to used it at all.

That's why it's very important to verify everything on what we type or click anything that we have found in the internet. Lots of clone sites out there, so just be very careful, we can't stressed that enough specially for newbies.

[giammangiato]

I don't know of the MEW phishing attack you are talking about, but bookmarking the official website of any service is a way to avoid phishing and the chances of landing into a cloned website. However, you have to also ensure that your device is used properly and free from malware, so it does not get compromised by attackers.

Many years ago this type of attack was very popular, mew was widely used and therefore they targeted this online wallet.  Honestly, I have never used mew, I went straight to playing with metamask which seems better to me from many points of view.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Just tested the mixer.

- Website is pretty straightforward, I like the simplicity.
- I tested a mix with two addresses.
- The letter of guarantee was verified with the PGP key on the website (B8A5 CFCA F63F F2D8 384A 6B12 D3B2 8095 6F0E 7CAF).

In contrary to other mixers that have a bunch of js and animations, I kinda like how you generate a mix with its LoG and that's it. You get the deposit address and all othe information on that letter. Just send coins -> receive coins after a few hours.

I chose 2 outputs, each from a different exchange (Binance and BitGet). The amount sent was 0,0051 BTC.
I received ‎0,0013 + ‎0,0028246 = 0,0041246 BTC. After the fixed fee of 0.0007 BTC, I was charged around 5.4%
Both exchanges credited the deposits normally.

Both transactions were fee overpaid by 2x (according to mempool.space) at around 20 sat/vByte and were spent by a multisig 2-of-2 of around 0.9 - 1 BTC.

An AML check showed no risk indicators or known counterparties.

Thanks very much for testing and posting a review here, I sincerely appreciate it as this gives me (and maybe some others who have the same testing plans in the pipeline) a heads-up and what exactly to expect.

And wait, 0.0007 btc at the current usdt price of bitcoin is around $42 dollars, am I the only one that thinks this is pretty high? Or does this have anything to do with the amount/value of bitcoin that was mixed?

And Secondly, is it OK to mix coins directly to exchanges? Or did you just take a risk there?

[Wiwo]

I don't know if it was resolved by the Unijoin team back then or not but as far as I remember then the issue was either solved or you maybe right the guy might be someone to defame the mixer at that time.

The guy (Jessuni) never provided any evidence as regards his claim, he only just wewent ahead and generously donated +10 ETH to the forum - after being pressured by forum members to show us proof that he actually used the the service he disappear (that's not something that someone who lost that kind of amount would do).

An accusation without proofs is same as an attack on the brand, so I won't take anyone that doesn't have such epidural to convince us that the mixer actually did that to them, because some of those attacks may as well be coming from a competitor who want to rubbish the image of the brand.

So for such sponsored attacks not to have any effects on the brand we also kick against it until a substantial evidence are presented to back such claims and if there is none, then it best we trash such an accusation and move in.

[SamReomo]

The guy (Jessuni) never provided any evidence as regards his claim, he only just wewent ahead and generously donated +10 ETH to the forum - after being pressured by forum members to show us proof that he actually used the the service he disappear (that's not something that someone who lost that kind of amount would do).

I guess he might disappeared due to other reasons. As we all know that a person won't donate 10 ETH worth of money easily and if someone does that then we should understand that the person is quite wealthy. I believe his case was solved in stealth mode by the mixer and that's why he disappeared or he might disappeared because the Bitcoin he used for mixing purpose had some crime footprints at them or were somehow hacked Bitcoin. We can't really come to any conclusion yet but it's still not 100% guessable that why he disappeared and what made him to disappear after donating a huge sum of 10 ETH.

[Cantsay]

I believe his case was solved in stealth mode by the mixer and that's why he disappeared or he might disappeared because the Bitcoin he used for mixing purpose had some crime footprints at them or were somehow hacked Bitcoin.

Nothing happened in stealth or behind the scenes  - unjoin released an official report concerning the case that Jessuni never used the service for that amount of coin and we never got anything from Jessuni that states otherwise.

UniJoin's official answer.

Recently, we learned of a claim indicating that a user was defrauded by UniJoin. However, a closer look reveals that the shared letter of guarantee is missing UniJoin's public key, which is a crucial element and is accessible to the public on our platform. This indicates that no order was ever placed through UniJoin.

I think this discussion is now getting out of Hand, this thread is for Thormixer so we should at least discuss something related to it.

[SamReomo]

that Jessuni never used the service for that amount of coin and we never got anything from Jessuni that states otherwise.

Then in that casino Jessuni was either trying to defame the Unijoin or he was victimized by a phishing site.

I think this discussion is now getting out of Hand, this thread is for Thormixer so we should at least discuss something related to it.

I agree, it's Thormixer's thread and we should stop the discussion as it will be off topic but it was somehow related to the discussions to protect the Thormixer users from the phishing sites and that's why we continued it but now we should end it here and only discuss the things that are directly related to Thormixer.

[pakhitheboss]

And wait, 0.0007 btc at the current usdt price of bitcoin is around $42 dollars, am I the only one that thinks this is pretty high? Or does this have anything to do with the amount/value of bitcoin that was mixed?

The USD value does not matter here as it is a Bitcoin mixer. I am also confused as to why more than 5% as a fee was charged as on their platform it clearly states that the fee will be between 4% to 5%

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And Secondly, is it OK to mix coins directly to exchanges? Or did you just take a risk there?

It is not a good idea to send from the mixer directly to the exchange, no matter how low the AML score is. (although you can't even know that until the transaction is confirmed)
btw. The same thing is with sending from the casino
At least not on exchanges with mandatory or possible KYC requirements.

And wait, 0.0007 btc at the current usdt price of bitcoin is around $42 dollars, am I the only one that thinks this is pretty high? Or does this have anything to do with the amount/value of bitcoin that was mixed?

The USD value does not matter here as it is a Bitcoin mixer. I am also confused as to why more than 5% as a fee was charged as on their platform it clearly states that the fee will be between 4% to 5%

you didn't understand the fee structure on thormixer
4%-5% service fee + 0.0007 BTC (fixed per address) as network fee.
- service fee = interest taken by the mixer for service rendered
- network fee = to cover transaction fee costs for moving funds from address to address.

[pakhitheboss]

you didn't understand the fee structure on thormixer
4%-5% service fee + 0.0007 BTC (fixed per address) as network fee.
- service fee = interest taken by the mixer for service rendered
- network fee = to cover transaction fee costs for moving funds from address to address.

Now it is clear to me! I was only thinking about the service fee and did not realize the transaction fee. That makes sense a fixed transaction fee in a volatile environment is what every platform that deals in Bitcoin keeps. Thanks for the detailed explanation about the fee structure.

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Now it is clear to me! I was only thinking about the service fee and did not realize the transaction fee. That makes sense a fixed transaction fee in a volatile environment is what every platform that deals in Bitcoin keeps. Thanks for the detailed explanation about the fee structure.

Check this thread LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅
I have separated the fee structure of most mixers in one place, so you can compare.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

you didn't understand the fee structure on thormixer
4%-5% service fee + 0.0007 BTC (fixed per address) as network fee.
- service fee = interest taken by the mixer for service rendered
- network fee = to cover transaction fee costs for moving funds from address to address.

Now it is clear to me! I was only thinking about the service fee and did not realize the transaction fee. That makes sense a fixed transaction fee in a volatile environment is what every platform that deals in Bitcoin keeps. Thanks for the detailed explanation about the fee structure.

Yeah, that was a very clear explanation there indeed, thanks examples for coming through with that.

And my personal note now is that, I honestly feel that the network fee that is fixed at 0.0007 is a bit too exorbitant, or should I rather say; expensive.
Recently and for even some months now, the bitcoin network has been kind of free from congestions, with less than $2 worth of bitcoin, one can get a confirmation in less than 15, 10 minutes.
Or is it possible that the remaining excess will be returned back to the user after the amount of bitcoin needed for a confirmation in minimal timeframe is collected from the 0.0007?

I am just trying to understand this mixer much better so as to know what to expect when am ready for testing it.

[tvplus006]

4%-5% service fee + 0.0007 BTC (fixed per address) as network fee.

Everything is clear about the service fee, but I do not understand why a fixed cost per address of 0.0007 BTC is set? Why should I pay a higher transaction fee if I use a mixer at a time when the network fee is very low? In my opinion, everyone should pay the current network commission, not the average one.