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Title: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 05, 2025, 01:57:49 PM
I learned about crypto in 2012 and joined the market in 2017. I've witnessed and experienced a lot of crazy things in this market, and the craziest of all is probably the expectation of a "supercycle" that is repeated in every crypto cycle. As I understand it, a supercycle is defined by a strong and continuous price increase in the long term, no longer limited by the 4-year cycle of the traditional market.

In 2013, the "supercycle" was mentioned as a new era after BTC price reached $1K and became very famous. Investors believed that BTC would permanently replace fiat and we would have a decentralized economy. That belief collapsed under the impact of the 2014-2015 crypto winter.

In 2017, the "supercycle" was mentioned again during the ICO fever and BTC price reached $20K. Investors heard interesting ideas in every field being brought to the blockchain and crypto becoming a means of payment for those services. ICOs were even considered a more efficient way of raising capital than IPOs, meaning the capital raising process would be changed by crypto and the stock market would shift towards tokenization. This expectation collapsed due to the 2018-2019 crypto winter. I missed the opportunity to sell all my tokens, most of which failed and are no longer traded.

In 2021, the "supercycle" was fueled by the belief in crypto applications, including DeFi as a replacement for CeFI, GameFi bringing blockchain & crypto into everyday life, and NFTs tokenizing non-fungible assets. Many KOLs even declared: the supercycle is BTC at $100K. The reality is that BTC price failed to reach $100K in 2021-2022, and the supercycle became a bitter joke. I couldn't take profits at the peak and lost most of my gains.

This year, 2025, the "supercycle" is mentioned again with BTC success in conquering $100K and the BTC Spot ETF. Additionally, Trump win has opened new opportunities for BTC and crypto in the US and globally. We see BTC becoming a strategic reserve asset for many governments, corporations, and companies. We see the disappearance of unfounded accusations related to energy waste and money laundering surrounding BTC. We see the crypto army occupying many governments... KOLs are starting to make big predictions for BTC, they suggest that BTC will never have another major decline, and the crypto winter has been completely erased.

I don't believe this, because the stock market, with its long history, also follows a 4-year cycle. My experience tells me that the crypto community is currently experiencing FOMO and has unrealistic expectations. Some investors say that whales have deceived us in previous cycles, but this time, when we are skeptical about the supercycle, the whales will make the supercycle a reality. I think this is entirely possible but it's not something I can bet my account on. My plan in this cycle is to wait for a reversal signal on the BTC price chart to exit the market with a reasonable profit.

(https://www.tradingview.com/x/3YpFLEyq/)

Recently, the trade war and its impact on crypto have helped to cool the heads of extremely FOMO investors. Investors are starting to become more cautious and thinking about risk management instead of going all-in and gambling with the market. Thanks to the trade war, we can also imagine many new scenarios for the market crash during the crypto winter, including macroeconomic reasons such as the escalation of the trade war, inflation, financial crisis, and internal reasons such as the instability of revenue-sharing stablecoins and Restaking.

Are you pursuing the belief in the "super cycle" in this cycle?
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Agbe on February 05, 2025, 05:11:28 PM
There are allot of different cycles that customers can leverage on when it comes to crypto currency but I don't personally believe in a super cycle because these are just terms that crypto experts uses in trying to make people to invest as far as crypto currency is concerned people buy in the dip and sell when the price of the coin is appreciating over time which they refers to as the bull run so a super cycle is what I am not too convinced about
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: yhiaali3 on February 05, 2025, 06:20:46 PM
Thank you for this brief account of the history of Bitcoin and the history of the belief in the supercycle. Personally, I believe that this cycle will not be different from previous cycles and there will be a rise to the peak and then a long decline after it, as was the case in previous cycles.

I expect that the belief in the supercycle of Bitcoin came from people’s feelings that wish Bitcoin to remain on a permanent rise and to achieve more profits all the time without a decline. In fact, this is what happens, but in the long run, that is, if we look at the path of Bitcoin from the first cycle to the current cycle, we can get what is called a supercycle (I mean in general).
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: alltalk on February 05, 2025, 10:15:02 PM
What makes super cycle is different with common cycle? I think there is no much difference between them. Especially in the current cycle, it even can be categorized as a weaker cycle because there is no much pump on altcoins prices. So far, we only saw significant move on Bitcoin price. But for the altcoins, many of them even couldn't reach their ATHs in 2021. How we can expect for super cycle in this year? Do you still believe in big pump on altcoins season?


Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: SmartGold01 on February 05, 2025, 11:15:01 PM
There are allot of different cycles that customers can leverage on when it comes to crypto currency but I don't personally believe in a super cycle because these are just terms that crypto experts uses in trying to make people to invest as far as crypto currency is concerned people buy in the dip and sell when the price of the coin is appreciating over time which they refers to as the bull run so a super cycle is what I am not too convinced about
The major thing is you should have the basic concept of what you are doing because it bull or bear, we should be able to know when to make investment and when not to make investment, as I know supper or not we would still lose if investments analysis are not provided done. We should be able to understand how the cycle works when its starts and ends.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: TomPluz on February 06, 2025, 06:42:18 AM

Are you pursuing the belief in the "super cycle" in this cycle?


According to your explanation above, I think we can be in a "super cycle" right now and it is slowly being pricked by realities in the market so I am wondering...are we soon entering the bear cycle? Now, some people are holding to the belief that this time things can be a little different maybe due to the presence of ETFs and the coming in of Trump and his many actions helping the cryptocurrency market in many ways. But then again, we can still insist that no matter what the 4-year-cycle will still be a big force to reckon with. All I say is that let's just wait and observe things and maybe be cautious and have some plans around so as never to be left behind by the market movement.

Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: omori on February 06, 2025, 01:56:45 PM
What makes super cycle is different with common cycle? I think there is no much difference between them. Especially in the current cycle, it even can be categorized as a weaker cycle because there is no much pump on altcoins prices. So far, we only saw significant move on Bitcoin price. But for the altcoins, many of them even couldn't reach their ATHs in 2021. How we can expect for super cycle in this year? Do you still believe in big pump on altcoins season?

Sounds like a lost cause, but - everything can happen in crypto.
We will surely see BTC pumping again, but when exactly - only time will tell, and alts would follow.
The said super-cycle would happen only if BTC's adoption would go on like a never-ending domino effect.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: robelneo on February 06, 2025, 02:40:42 PM

Are you pursuing the belief in the "super cycle" in this cycle?

I'm not a full-time trader, but all the time I'm investing in cryptocurrency. This is the first time I read about supercycles. Maybe I missed this term because its only mentioned in other categories of cryptocurrencies where I am not active, like trading.
All I know is there are only two cycles: the bull and the bear. The bull is where I take profit, and the bear is the phase where I accumulate. I haven't noticed any significant movement that will contribute to this supercycle.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: philipma1957 on February 06, 2025, 04:07:32 PM
Pretty sure reliable cycle patterns will never be the same.  The musky trumpeter is a huge disruptive force in the crypto market.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: 0t3p0t on February 06, 2025, 09:30:08 PM
Pretty sure reliable cycle patterns will never be the same.  The musky trumpeter is a huge disruptive force in the crypto market.
Yeah I agree that cycles will never be the same due to the fact that there are situations that we need to consider like the influence of billionaires jumping into crypto especially Bitcoin that which create hype and other factors changing the flow of the crypto market.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: joniboini on February 07, 2025, 09:26:24 AM
I believe we don't have to necessarily believe in that if profit is our goal. There are tons of self-fulfilling prophecies and this might be one of them. If the sentiment of the general market shows signs they treat this "supercycle" seriously we just have to adjust our trading plan and prepare for an exit strategy if it gets broken.

I remember seeing the same narrative about the rainbow cycle, the altcoin cycle, and so on. It's clear those cycles got broken every now and then, but people (especially influencer in social media) still use  them to entice retail traders to participate in the market.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: omori on February 07, 2025, 12:26:19 PM
Yeah I agree that cycles will never be the same due to the fact that there are situations that we need to consider like the influence of billionaires jumping into crypto especially Bitcoin that which create hype and other factors changing the flow of the crypto market.

In a sense - bigger capital entered the game.
It won't change much, in my opinion, once it is settled, however, as for now - it's a new branch of development adoption-wise. Thus, it affects both sentiment and the market greatly.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: KryptoBull on February 07, 2025, 12:44:39 PM
Recently, the trade war and its impact on crypto have helped to cool the heads of extremely FOMO investors. Investors are starting to become more cautious and thinking about risk management instead of going all-in and gambling with the market. Thanks to the trade war, we can also imagine many new scenarios for the market crash during the crypto winter, including macroeconomic reasons such as the escalation of the trade war, inflation, financial crisis, and internal reasons such as the instability of revenue-sharing stablecoins and Restaking.

Are you pursuing the belief in the "super cycle" in this cycle?
I also don't believe in the overly optimistic predictions of KOLs because they just want to attract viewers, not the actual investment reality as they brag. Supercycle is something that is easily used, following the trend is easier than going against investors' expectations.

I also only have a plan to take profits in 2025, after that, whether there is a supercycle or not is no longer too important. If the supercycle comes, I will continue to return to invest in 2026-2027, on the contrary, if the crypto winter comes again, I will DCA BTC as I did in 2022-2023 :)
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on February 07, 2025, 02:19:27 PM

Are you pursuing the belief in the "super cycle" in this cycle?


According to your explanation above, I think we can be in a "super cycle" right now and it is slowly being pricked by realities in the market so I am wondering...are we soon entering the bear cycle? Now, some people are holding to the belief that this time things can be a little different maybe due to the presence of ETFs and the coming in of Trump and his many actions helping the cryptocurrency market in many ways. But then again, we can still insist that no matter what the 4-year-cycle will still be a big force to reckon with. All I say is that let's just wait and observe things and maybe be cautious and have some plans around so as never to be left behind by the market movement.
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        -     I get your point mate, but I think we are still far from the bear cycle, although what we are experiencing so far is in the retracement period, but it can also recover quickly, and it also depends on the positive and negative news in the crypto space.

but as you say, it is still good to let's wait and see what could possibly happen, because we know that the market is very unpredictable that's why volatility is not absent in cryptocurrency.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: LogitechMouse on February 07, 2025, 02:41:25 PM
What makes super cycle is different with common cycle? I think there is no much difference between them. Especially in the current cycle, it even can be categorized as a weaker cycle because there is no much pump on altcoins prices. So far, we only saw significant move on Bitcoin price. But for the altcoins, many of them even couldn't reach their ATHs in 2021. How we can expect for super cycle in this year? Do you still believe in big pump on altcoins season?
Based on a quick google search, a super cycle is just a theory still especially in the crypto space since it hasn't happened since, but essentially, we can call it a super cycle when the market will have a longer bull run than the usual one that we are experiencing.

As for most of the altcoins not pumping, it's because the altcoin market is diluted. There are so many altcoins, but the liquidity isn't increasing. The money is being distributed towards many, many altcoins that it isn't enough even for the top to go up in price just like what we saw in 2021 and 2017 bull run. Expectations for a super cycle this year? Low to zero, but who knows. Institutions joined the game already so they might be a game changer. :)

As for big pumps for altcoins, I still believe that there will be big pump on a FEW top altcoins because the price of altcoins tends to move later than that of Bitcoin. If Bitcoin's price pumps, it will take months before altcoins do the same... at least based on history.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Findingnemo on February 07, 2025, 05:57:55 PM
Until now irrespective of growth percentage the cycle is limited to 4 years or lesser and I don't think we will have a period where the price increase will just keep on increasing even after 4 years for the next 10 years atleast and we might enter that super cycle phase when market reached the saturation point of adoption and the price fluctuations is only decided by other factors.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Gurujebs on February 07, 2025, 06:03:16 PM
Until now irrespective of growth percentage the cycle is limited to 4 years or lesser and I don't think we will have a period where the price increase will just keep on increasing even after 4 years for the next 10 years atleast and we might enter that super cycle phase when market reached the saturation point of adoption and the price fluctuations is only decided by other factors.

Back in 2017, when projects are launch most of the time the market cap don't exceed $100m that's because the projects before the new ones weren't bigger by market cap but as time goes on, the old ones are now billions bigger and so the new projects easily make it to top market cap value on listing and this is why we don't see coins that huge on our eyes anymore, most coins are pre pump on listing.

We will not see much pumps again but we will see new project for people to get those early listing so they can make quick money. However, we can also see some projects make run of their money once in a while.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MUGNIA on February 08, 2025, 04:13:56 PM

Are you pursuing the belief in the "super cycle" in this cycle?

I'm not a full-time trader, but all the time I'm investing in cryptocurrency. This is the first time I read about supercycles. Maybe I missed this term because its only mentioned in other categories of cryptocurrencies where I am not active, like trading.
All I know is there are only two cycles: the bull and the bear. The bull is where I take profit, and the bear is the phase where I accumulate. I haven't noticed any significant movement that will contribute to this supercycle.
bullrun and bearish, up and down, red and green, that's all I know just like you, so when this thread comes out it turns out there are many terms and cycles in crypto, but if you look at the cycles that have already been there are all not the same always changing so after 4 years of cycles to reach the peak there will definitely be a change in trend, is that so or ...
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: electronicash on February 08, 2025, 04:37:00 PM

Are you pursuing the belief in the "super cycle" in this cycle?

I'm not a full-time trader, but all the time I'm investing in cryptocurrency. This is the first time I read about supercycles. Maybe I missed this term because its only mentioned in other categories of cryptocurrencies where I am not active, like trading.
All I know is there are only two cycles: the bull and the bear. The bull is where I take profit, and the bear is the phase where I accumulate. I haven't noticed any significant movement that will contribute to this supercycle.
bullrun and bearish, up and down, red and green, that's all I know just like you, so when this thread comes out it turns out there are many terms and cycles in crypto, but if you look at the cycles that have already been there are all not the same always changing so after 4 years of cycles to reach the peak there will definitely be a change in trend, is that so or ...

i heard of this term back in 2021 bull market and i thought it would happen that time where BTC would go $100k but it didn't happen. i'm thinking this may be the time it will finally come true because of the president and the supply of BTC while there are huge demand for BTC when governments are going to keep buying it for their use as reserves.

ofc this is still a theory and whether the market will still have a bear market or not. we know there is a sign of oversold an d overbought.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Unbunplease on February 08, 2025, 05:08:41 PM
It is quite possible the 4-year cycle will be broken this year, and we may well see a fairly long bull season, and a relatively short bear season. Over time, things will gradually even out.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 09, 2025, 05:34:30 PM
It is quite possible the 4-year cycle will be broken this year, and we may well see a fairly long bull season, and a relatively short bear season. Over time, things will gradually even out.
Well, I am not sure about the new history in this cycle, because I have also heard about it in previous cycles but unfortunately it did not happen. So I continue to maintain a cautious attitude and focus on taking profits in this cycle rather than believing in something that has never happened.

My optimistic view is that there will come a time when the crypto market will fluctuate almost like the stock market with many consecutive bubbles and the % of price increases will increase in the long term instead of gradually decreasing as it is now. If we are lucky, we are right at that important "inflection point" thanks to the positive policies for the crypto market.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: vegasus on February 09, 2025, 11:08:09 PM
I believe in the 4-year crypto cycle, which will have bearish - a transition period - and bullish - until the bullish peak. And whether there is a super cycle or not, I may not understand whether we were in a super cycle or not. But that's why, we are not too bothered by the situation. The point is, when we target our direction according to the goal for profit at a certain number, that's what will be done and expected. and in a certain cycle, there may be some differences, and it's just a matter of waiting to see how it goes. Am I someone who is too relaxed about this? Will this be a problem later?
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: philipma1957 on February 10, 2025, 05:40:27 AM
What makes super cycle is different with common cycle? I think there is no much difference between them. Especially in the current cycle, it even can be categorized as a weaker cycle because there is no much pump on altcoins prices. So far, we only saw significant move on Bitcoin price. But for the altcoins, many of them even couldn't reach their ATHs in 2021. How we can expect for super cycle in this year? Do you still believe in big pump on altcoins season?

or its a truth cycle in which thousands of shit coins tank bigly while a handful of coins along with btc do well.

I would argue three hundred or less alts are really needed.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: dave_strider on February 10, 2025, 11:29:18 AM
or its a truth cycle in which thousands of shit coins tank bigly while a handful of coins along with btc do well.

I would argue three hundred or less alts are really needed.

Smaller ones are just liquidity eaters.
Alas, if the market allows it - and exchanges profit from it - it will be like that  ;)
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: target on February 10, 2025, 02:17:19 PM

I hope there will be super cycle and that we as crypto users since 2017 are going to be the users who profit the most once this happen. However this could just be a wishful thinking for those who wish to have super cycle.

There have been threads where I read this supercycle even back in 2021, it was already been rumored to happen. But what they have been saying is that the supply is getting low and there is no more of those institutions from countries that have been too late to adopt which they may buy BTC at $100K or more.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: philipma1957 on February 10, 2025, 07:12:16 PM

I hope there will be super cycle and that we as crypto users since 2017 are going to be the users who profit the most once this happen. However this could just be a wishful thinking for those who wish to have super cycle.

There have been threads where I read this supercycle even back in 2021, it was already been rumored to happen. But what they have been saying is that the supply is getting low and there is no more of those institutions from countries that have been too late to adopt which they may buy BTC at $100K or more.

Yeah but if you check old blocks hit from 2009 to 2011 many are now being cashed out.

this is creating more supply and keeping price low.

right now a new block is 3.125 coins a 2009 block is 50 coins

So if I cash 100 blocks form 2009 it is 1680 blocks from now in terms of coin amount.

You need to track old block cashing to see what is happening.


check this address out. I can trace coins from 2009 to it  and it has had 5,700,000 btc pass through it:

https://btc3.trezor.io/address/1LNWw6yCxkUmkhArb2Nf2MPw6vG7u5WG7q?page=1652

Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: bhadz on February 10, 2025, 09:50:23 PM
There is that supercycle and parabolic move that many cant' believe happening during the bull runs. We've got different classifications and descriptions toward it. But whether we like it or not, it is happening. This FOMO, supercycle, parabolic move. They all come together every bull run and it will different this time and then by 2028 to 2029 which will be the next cycle happens.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 11, 2025, 06:18:10 PM
There is that supercycle and parabolic move that many cant' believe happening during the bull runs. We've got different classifications and descriptions toward it. But whether we like it or not, it is happening. This FOMO, supercycle, parabolic move. They all come together every bull run and it will different this time and then by 2028 to 2029 which will be the next cycle happens.
I believe in the existence of FOMO and parabolic move, but I don't believe in supercycle right now. I will only believe it if the market continuously grows from now until the next BTC halving without experiencing a severe crypto winter.

We will wait and see what happens in 2026. As a cycle investor, I hope I will have the opportunity to buy more tokens in the accumulation zone, for example, when BTC will return to test $40K.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: electronicash on February 11, 2025, 07:15:01 PM
There is that supercycle and parabolic move that many cant' believe happening during the bull runs. We've got different classifications and descriptions toward it. But whether we like it or not, it is happening. This FOMO, supercycle, parabolic move. They all come together every bull run and it will different this time and then by 2028 to 2029 which will be the next cycle happens.
I believe in the existence of FOMO and parabolic move, but I don't believe in supercycle right now. I will only believe it if the market continuously grows from now until the next BTC halving without experiencing a severe crypto winter.

We will wait and see what happens in 2026. As a cycle investor, I hope I will have the opportunity to buy more tokens in the accumulation zone, for example, when BTC will return to test $40K.

this is what they have been saying afaik, there is a mother of all pump thats coming and all those who thought BTC price is too high for them to invest and altcoins are too risky to invest because its not even incrementing after a year of stagnant price are not going to go involved in crypto.

when all these people thinks is unprofitable to invest in crypto, that when the supercycle begins. gold was also been predicted to have a supercycle which is already happening.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: philipma1957 on February 12, 2025, 05:13:22 AM
There is that supercycle and parabolic move that many cant' believe happening during the bull runs. We've got different classifications and descriptions toward it. But whether we like it or not, it is happening. This FOMO, supercycle, parabolic move. They all come together every bull run and it will different this time and then by 2028 to 2029 which will be the next cycle happens.
I believe in the existence of FOMO and parabolic move, but I don't believe in supercycle right now. I will only believe it if the market continuously grows from now until the next BTC halving without experiencing a severe crypto winter.

We will wait and see what happens in 2026. As a cycle investor, I hope I will have the opportunity to buy more tokens in the accumulation zone, for example, when BTC will return to test $40K.

this time is different. I heard it a few times.

I do know this.  coins from 2009 2010 and 2011 are moving no all but some.

This is what is keeping the market price at the 90-110k slot.

when enough of the old coins move price will arc upwards bigly.

in order to get a super cycle need to go upwards this year to at least 125k

then in 2026 to over 160k

then in 2027 to say 200k. now those numbers could be high but what they would show if the 4 year cycle ended.

and the longer super cycle has started.

I actually would prefer.

2024 105k
2025 125k
2026 160k
2027 200k
2028 260k

and upwards for btc many premium stocks have 5 to 10 good years in a row.

why not btc?
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: philipma1957 on February 12, 2025, 05:24:33 AM
There is that supercycle and parabolic move that many cant' believe happening during the bull runs. We've got different classifications and descriptions toward it. But whether we like it or not, it is happening. This FOMO, supercycle, parabolic move. They all come together every bull run and it will different this time and then by 2028 to 2029 which will be the next cycle happens.
I believe in the existence of FOMO and parabolic move, but I don't believe in supercycle right now. I will only believe it if the market continuously grows from now until the next BTC halving without experiencing a severe crypto winter.

We will wait and see what happens in 2026. As a cycle investor, I hope I will have the opportunity to buy more tokens in the accumulation zone, for example, when BTC will return to test $40K.

this time is different. I heard it a few times.

I do know this.  coins from 2009 2010 and 2011 are moving no all but some.

This is what is keeping the market price at the 90-110k slot.

when enough of the old coins move price will arc upwards bigly.

in order to get a super cycle need to go upwards this year to at least 125k

then in 2026 to over 160k

then in 2027 to say 200k. now those numbers could be high but what they would show if the 4 year cycle ended.

and the longer super cycle has started.

I actually would prefer.

2024 105k
2025 125k
2026 160k
2027 200k
2028 260k

and upwards for btc many premium stocks have 5 to 10 good years in a row.

why not btc?

here is apple from 2016 to 2025


2016    23.85
2017    26.99
2018    40.51
2019    35.31
2020    72.66
2021   126.56
2022   169.23
2023  125.04
2024  184.73
2025  245.00


I would love to see a pattern like apple of the next 10 years.

23.85 to 245.00 = 10.27x the value. if btc is 96k now in ten years it would be 986k
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: omori on February 12, 2025, 08:59:36 AM
^ About two cycles and 1 mil.. I don't think so, but surely, I would be glad to be proven wrong 10 years later.
We will see about that.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: joniboini on February 14, 2025, 01:56:11 AM
^ About two cycles and 1 mil.. I don't think so, but surely, I would be glad to be proven wrong 10 years later.
I'd love to see the same thing. But realistically speaking, pattern recognition is a hit-and-miss most of the time. It's also hard to be completely objective distance ourselves from bias and see the counter-example of said pattern. Not to mention calculating geopolitics effect on the price is difficult too. But yeah, if BTC hit 1 million I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: philipma1957 on February 14, 2025, 05:09:57 AM
^ About two cycles and 1 mil.. I don't think so, but surely, I would be glad to be proven wrong 10 years later.
I'd love to see the same thing. But realistically speaking, pattern recognition is a hit-and-miss most of the time. It's also hard to be completely objective distance ourselves from bias and see the counter-example of said pattern. Not to mention calculating geopolitics effect on the price is difficult too. But yeah, if BTC hit 1 million I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong.

well it could by 2029.  but more likely by 2033 I do think the pump and dump stuff will stop.

I think some was done be the very rich when they realized they did not have enough btc and it was costly.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 14, 2025, 09:27:16 PM
this time is different. I heard it a few times.

I do know this.  coins from 2009 2010 and 2011 are moving no all but some.

This is what is keeping the market price at the 90-110k slot.

when enough of the old coins move price will arc upwards bigly.

in order to get a super cycle need to go upwards this year to at least 125k

then in 2026 to over 160k

then in 2027 to say 200k. now those numbers could be high but what they would show if the 4 year cycle ended.

and the longer super cycle has started.

I actually would prefer.

2024 105k
2025 125k
2026 160k
2027 200k
2028 260k

and upwards for btc many premium stocks have 5 to 10 good years in a row.

why not btc?
We will wait together, the answer will come this year and next year. $100K is a critical zone for investor psychology so BTC will need more time to overcome this sensitive zone.

I am not as optimistic as you, I only maintain the expectation of ATH at $150K-170K for BTC in this cycle. That means I don't believe in a new history or supercycle. BTC has been rising on its own for a long time and it's time for it to push capital into ALTs and trigger altseason before we have to accept the negative impacts of next crypto winter.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Crypto Library on February 14, 2025, 09:41:11 PM
Actually, we have to believe in cycle and as well also have to understand the market psychology like the way the big investor liquidated the crypto market have take market on that position make a good investment and when they make that investment we saw the  bull season.

So even we believe on the super cycle of the crypto market we must not always think that market will go the same way it goes on the before. We have to analyse the market find the resistance and support and make the opposite trade like now most of the people are thinking about maybe market is going to fall on bear season but it could be a trap from the whale to liquided the market.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: rizqillah on February 14, 2025, 10:32:39 PM
Actually, we have to believe in cycle and as well also have to understand the market psychology like the way the big investor liquidated the crypto market have take market on that position make a good investment and when they make that investment we saw the  bull season.

So even we believe on the super cycle of the crypto market we must not always think that market will go the same way it goes on the before. We have to analyse the market find the resistance and support and make the opposite trade like now most of the people are thinking about maybe market is going to fall on bear season but it could be a trap from the whale to liquided the market.
I agree with you, we have to believe in the cycle but we have to have our own analysis because the market movement will not be the same as it happened [in the previous cycle.
that is the function of knowledge in crypto investment.
make analysis and develop strategies to gain profit.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: bayu7adi on February 14, 2025, 11:43:22 PM
History repeats itself over and over again, that's what makes this four-year template something I believe in... there's no scientific data on it, but it's happened four times and it can't be a coincidence, right??? So, yes I believe in the four-year super cycle...

It allows me to make decisions going forward about how active I should be in crypto, because there are bearish and bullish periods... so we can maximize opportunities in the buying year and the selling year...

It's not instant money, but at least there's a belief that we're a little more confident that we'll get profit at a certain time... hopefully this super cycle will continue to exist and be something that can provide life for many people in the future...

btw, I thought the image you attached was for a time frame since 2013... turns out it's since 2023... its okay... the graph means it's for a shorter period than 4 years, right?
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: bitterguy28 on February 15, 2025, 05:17:37 AM
History repeats itself over and over again, that's what makes this four-year template something I believe in... there's no scientific data on it, but it's happened four times and it can't be a coincidence, right??? So, yes I believe in the four-year super cycle...
the evidence of this 4 year cycle is the halving event that occurs every 4 years satoshi decided on this and the only logical explanation has something to do with economic studies
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It's not instant money, but at least there's a belief that we're a little more confident that we'll get profit at a certain time... hopefully this super cycle will continue to exist and be something that can provide life for many people in the future...
it really is not easy quick money and the quicker people realize the quicker they can get up to speed when it comes to making good strategies about the market and maximizing everything there is to maximize
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: New Ranger on February 15, 2025, 07:14:51 AM
it really is not easy quick money and the quicker people realize the quicker they can get up to speed when it comes to making good strategies about the market and maximizing everything there is to maximize

Of course, the pattern is also not much different, the only difference is in the price for the cycle, it can be said that it's almost similar. similar trading situations repeat themselves over time and are also relevant if we relate them to past data and what generally happens, regardless of the conditions. In fact, trend traders enter as early as possible and exit before the trend reverses.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Crypto Library on February 15, 2025, 04:57:48 PM
I agree with you, we have to believe in the cycle but we have to have our own analysis because the market movement will not be the same as it happened [in the previous cycle.
that is the function of knowledge in crypto investment.
make analysis and develop strategies to gain profit.
Yeah, that's it.
It is something like the mathematics formula. When you know the formula then even if the question was uncommon on the exam sheet it would be easy for you to solve that question.
Same for the crypto cycle even there is cycle and yes it happen most of the time by around 4years but it is also truth that market position will not be always same so we have to got the analysis skill then we should follow the cycle.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: target on February 15, 2025, 08:07:52 PM
I agree with you, we have to believe in the cycle but we have to have our own analysis because the market movement will not be the same as it happened [in the previous cycle.
that is the function of knowledge in crypto investment.
make analysis and develop strategies to gain profit.
Yeah, that's it.
It is something like the mathematics formula. When you know the formula then even if the question was uncommon on the exam sheet it would be easy for you to solve that question.
Same for the crypto cycle even there is cycle and yes it happen most of the time by around 4years but it is also truth that market position will not be always same so we have to got the analysis skill then we should follow the cycle.

If this dip continues the down trend you can therefore say this is already a bear market and the next bull season is on the next halving. This bear market will really be more devastating for the altcoin holders because they never get to see the light under that tunnel for a long time. There use to be pumps to unknown tokens but this time, they bulls leave them out.

And if ever there is a supercycle like what they are saying, I can only wish the supercycle will include altcoins be part of its bull run.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Baofeng on February 15, 2025, 10:29:10 PM
it really is not easy quick money and the quicker people realize the quicker they can get up to speed when it comes to making good strategies about the market and maximizing everything there is to maximize

Of course, the pattern is also not much different, the only difference is in the price for the cycle, it can be said that it's almost similar. similar trading situations repeat themselves over time and are also relevant if we relate them to past data and what generally happens, regardless of the conditions. In fact, trend traders enter as early as possible and exit before the trend reverses.

Yes, pattern will change due to time, it's not like when we are in the beginning we see huge returns, now it's different. Although we can still profit big, it's not as big as the last all time high.

And that's why where Holding for a long time is really a good strategy because you are going to see your money multiply many times if you have the mentality to hold let's say multiple cycles.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 16, 2025, 05:40:40 PM
If this dip continues the down trend you can therefore say this is already a bear market and the next bull season is on the next halving. This bear market will really be more devastating for the altcoin holders because they never get to see the light under that tunnel for a long time. There use to be pumps to unknown tokens but this time, they bulls leave them out.

And if ever there is a supercycle like what they are saying, I can only wish the supercycle will include altcoins be part of its bull run.
Well, I'm not so pessimistic as to give up hope for an altseason in this cycle. I believe it will still happen as it has in previous cycles rather than being delayed until the next cycle. BTC.D shows that money is flowing into BTC and it can't stay there forever, only the rotation of money can create price increases and bring more profit to the whales, they know it and will do it. The only question is the timing and the market fluctuations in the coming months.

ALTs were once thought to be a driving force behind super cycles, helping the market break out of the 4-year cycle created by BTC halving. Now we all know that was a naive view, but it could become a reality in many more cycles.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Crypto Library on February 16, 2025, 08:38:10 PM
If this dip continues the down trend you can therefore say this is already a bear market and the next bull season is on the next halving. This bear market will really be more devastating for the altcoin holders because they never get to see the light under that tunnel for a long time. There use to be pumps to unknown tokens but this time, they bulls leave them out.

And if ever there is a supercycle like what they are saying, I can only wish the supercycle will include altcoins be part of its bull run.
Let's not hoping this hope for something good in the near future because, if we just saw the previous bull season it will always notice that before every bull season we saw something like this situation on market that most of the people were thought about the negative thing on market and liquided their fund from market that time we will also saw the last turn of the bull season.
So I am still hoping for the good we I also in the fear of the bear season.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: 0t3p0t on February 16, 2025, 08:59:38 PM
I also in the fear of the bear season.
Don't be afraid of it mate, instead grab bear season as an opportunity to DCA until you will reach the deepest dip of a cycle because when price started to come back up you will surely be making good gains that is if you got some capital to do DCA.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Crypto Library on February 16, 2025, 09:41:37 PM
Don't be afraid of it mate, instead grab bear season as an opportunity to DCA until you will reach the deepest dip of a cycle because when price started to come back up you will surely be making good gains that is if you got some capital to do DCA.
Actually, I have that plan I also have target in this year I will sell my holding btc on the 120k and hold the stable coin to until the next bear season like for the 2026 or the 2027, Becuase as per cycle my idea says that there will be bear season on that time and I will make the whole stable coin invest on bitcoin by part of part when it will be around the 30k to 40k.
And DCA will be always run for like we made saving on the bank.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: sampoerna on February 16, 2025, 11:48:04 PM
I also in the fear of the bear season.
Don't be afraid of it mate, instead grab bear season as an opportunity to DCA until you will reach the deepest dip of a cycle because when price started to come back up you will surely be making good gains that is if you got some capital to do DCA.
Yeah, when we really understand our financial situation and we have free money to do DCA, really, it is a very good opportunity and must be done. Doing DCA regularly, during bearish season, and holding them until we are going to take profits, is one way of investment that actually has a very significant increase. especially if you do it in Bitcoin, that is really what I want to do in the next bearish season. Because, in this bearish season, I might be quite late because I didn't start from the beginning of the bearish season. and this is what makes me learn a lot from past experiences.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Bobcrypto on February 18, 2025, 08:13:31 AM
There are allot of different cycles that customers can leverage on when it comes to crypto currency but I don't personally believe in a super cycle because these are just terms that crypto experts uses in trying to make people to invest as far as crypto currency is concerned people buy in the dip and sell when the price of the coin is appreciating over time which they refers to as the bull run so a super cycle is what I am not too convinced about

I don't think Bitcoin has more than two circles ( the bull and bear circles), though we are currently expecting a newer circle that can be considered a super circle. This is because experts are viewing a situation where the Bitcoin demands might have widen due to increased adoptions. and an increasing demands consistently overtimes, and a very limited supply on the market might has gone to an unprecedented level to usher in the expected super circle.
I think that we will encounter more innovations, and developments in the future to enhance this super circle.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: dave_strider on February 18, 2025, 10:47:10 AM
Don't be afraid of it mate, instead grab bear season as an opportunity to DCA until you will reach the deepest dip of a cycle because when price started to come back up you will surely be making good gains that is if you got some capital to do DCA.

Agreed.
Dips are temporary, BTC is eternal. Others would follow suit.
Just hodl and see the results yourself  8)
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: electronicash on February 18, 2025, 06:55:07 PM
Don't be afraid of it mate, instead grab bear season as an opportunity to DCA until you will reach the deepest dip of a cycle because when price started to come back up you will surely be making good gains that is if you got some capital to do DCA.

Agreed.
Dips are temporary, BTC is eternal. Others would follow suit.
Just hodl and see the results yourself  8)

shouldn't you be starting your DCA when the price hits the bottom?
i think right now is the best time to just hold your USD because there is a chance that this bubble will already pop. if the price plunge down to less than $50k and indicates bottom, i think that's where you start DCAing and as for now just sell for stablecoin. however the signs are yet unclear because some analyst still believes the ATH will be achieved sooner.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: enwi on February 18, 2025, 11:27:53 PM
Don't be afraid of it mate, instead grab bear season as an opportunity to DCA until you will reach the deepest dip of a cycle because when price started to come back up you will surely be making good gains that is if you got some capital to do DCA.

Agreed.
Dips are temporary, BTC is eternal. Others would follow suit.
Just hodl and see the results yourself  8)

shouldn't you be starting your DCA when the price hits the bottom?
i think right now is the best time to just hold your USD because there is a chance that this bubble will already pop. if the price plunge down to less than $50k and indicates bottom, i think that's where you start DCAing and as for now just sell for stablecoin. however the signs are yet unclear because some analyst still believes the ATH will be achieved sooner.
The market always behaves as a cycle and it is almost impossible to predict when the lowest or the highest point will be reached. Thus, we can consider such and such situation without losing our heads while making decisions. If the price is forming patterns that do not seem to have a clear upward or downward tendency, the best thing to do is to wait for a more appropriate time to enter the market. It will be possible to observe further movements then take a better decision as to the next strategy to adopt. Every type of strategy has its positive and negative sides, therefore the attempts to overbalance risks upon opportunities is quite realistic. In this way, we are always ready to respond to changes on the market without getting emotional and making hasty decisions.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 21, 2025, 05:58:23 PM
The market always behaves as a cycle and it is almost impossible to predict when the lowest or the highest point will be reached. Thus, we can consider such and such situation without losing our heads while making decisions. If the price is forming patterns that do not seem to have a clear upward or downward tendency, the best thing to do is to wait for a more appropriate time to enter the market. It will be possible to observe further movements then take a better decision as to the next strategy to adopt. Every type of strategy has its positive and negative sides, therefore the attempts to overbalance risks upon opportunities is quite realistic. In this way, we are always ready to respond to changes on the market without getting emotional and making hasty decisions.
The cycle has nothing to do with whether we can accurately predict the peak of the entire cycle. The cycle is characterized by the repetition of similar trends, not confirming peaks and bottoms, although we have witnessed the coincidence when the BTC price peaked in November in many previous cycles. I also don't think I have enough ability to accurately predict the ATH of the entire cycle, I just hope I won't miss the bullrun ^^

When I believe in the cycle, I think we are in a bullrun until the end of 2025 and reversal signals will appear in early 2026. That is the time when I will follow the market really seriously and detect the first reversal signals in D and H4 frames instead of just focusing only on the W frame ^^
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: albon on February 21, 2025, 06:34:54 PM
In cryptocurrency a supercycle refers to a long term period of sustained growth, typically characterized by an extraordinary bull run that significantly outpaces normal market cycles. During this phase property prices rise sharply, driven by a number of factors that align to create an extended period of demand acceptance and positive sentiment. Even the key elements of a crypto supercycle longer than usual bull market. But In normal market cycles cryptocurrency experience many phases.
Also accumulation the uptrend with bull run distribution and downtrend the bear market. A supercycle extends the bull phase much further than usual.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: rizqillah on February 21, 2025, 11:44:40 PM
In cryptocurrency a supercycle refers to a long term period of sustained growth, typically characterized by an extraordinary bull run that significantly outpaces normal market cycles. During this phase property prices rise sharply, driven by a number of factors that align to create an extended period of demand acceptance and positive sentiment. Even the key elements of a crypto supercycle longer than usual bull market. But In normal market cycles cryptocurrency experience many phases.
Also accumulation the uptrend with bull run distribution and downtrend the bear market. A supercycle extends the bull phase much further than usual.
We must believe in our own analysis, we also listen to other people's opinions only as a consideration, but this is our money and the risk is in our hands. We also have to see who has given us advice and what success they have achieved.
because sometimes they can only talk without a clear basis of knowledge.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: UNIVERSE on February 21, 2025, 11:59:51 PM
We must believe in our own analysis, we also listen to other people's opinions only as a consideration, but this is our money and the risk is in our hands. We also have to see who has given us advice and what success they have achieved.
because sometimes they can only talk without a clear basis of knowledge.
There is no problem to listen other people prediction but we must make our own analysis. Other people prediction can be some considerations, but it shouldn't totally determine our decision for investment.

I think it is not a must to know who gives the advice. What we must focus on the advice itself. If it looks like positive thing and reasonable, we can consider it. But if it looks like nonsense, we can ignore it. We don't fully accept all the advice from all people.

Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: albon on February 22, 2025, 05:30:01 PM
In cryptocurrency a supercycle refers to a long term period of sustained growth, typically characterized by an extraordinary bull run that significantly outpaces normal market cycles. During this phase property prices rise sharply, driven by a number of factors that align to create an extended period of demand acceptance and positive sentiment. Even the key elements of a crypto supercycle longer than usual bull market. But In normal market cycles cryptocurrency experience many phases.
Also accumulation the uptrend with bull run distribution and downtrend the bear market. A supercycle extends the bull phase much further than usual.
We must believe in our own analysis, we also listen to other people's opinions only as a consideration, but this is our money and the risk is in our hands. We also have to see who has given us advice and what success they have achieved.
because sometimes they can only talk without a clear basis of knowledge.

Of course i agree with you but buy and hold strategies are almost always based on fundamental analysis and are usually not concerned with technical indicators. The strategy also likely won't involve monitoring portfolio performance frequently only occasionally. Investing in cryptocurrency does not seek to chase short term gains. So true investing requires a long term perspective. Success in cryptocurrency investing requires patience. Don't get busy with daily price fluctuations but focus on saving consistently.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Gurujebs on February 22, 2025, 06:13:06 PM
Of course i agree with you but buy and hold strategies are almost always based on fundamental analysis and are usually not concerned with technical indicators. The strategy also likely won't involve monitoring portfolio performance frequently only occasionally. Investing in cryptocurrency does not seek to chase short term gains. So true investing requires a long term perspective. Success in cryptocurrency investing requires patience. Don't get busy with daily price fluctuations but focus on saving consistently.

When we are in bear market, everyone rush to buy the coins they think will do well in the next cycle and they don't just buy any coin they see. They look at the fundamentals like you said, they look at the tokenomics and the supply of the coin, what the project has to over in the long run, it's project that continue to build and take the community along that wins in every cycle of bull run.

The only coins that doesn't have these pattern are meme coins and we know they are fuel by some hype, trend and what everyone wants for that time and as soon they are done with pump, they lay low again or may even die.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: enwi on February 22, 2025, 11:51:20 PM
We must believe in our own analysis, we also listen to other people's opinions only as a consideration, but this is our money and the risk is in our hands. We also have to see who has given us advice and what success they have achieved.
because sometimes they can only talk without a clear basis of knowledge.
This is very important when it comes to making decisions regarding financial issues and especially investment. Different perspectives of the people can be helpful to some extent but it is our decision to make in the end. Thus, people have to take full responsibility to all the consequences that are obtained after any action is made. Accompanying people identification is also a step that should not be overlooked since not all the persons providing information have practical experience to be relied upon. Out of what is collected, it will be easier to make a more focused approach out of determining what is worthy and not.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: rizqillah on February 22, 2025, 11:55:13 PM
Of course i agree with you but buy and hold strategies are almost always based on fundamental analysis and are usually not concerned with technical indicators. The strategy also likely won't involve monitoring portfolio performance frequently only occasionally. Investing in cryptocurrency does not seek to chase short term gains. So true investing requires a long term perspective. Success in cryptocurrency investing requires patience. Don't get busy with daily price fluctuations but focus on saving consistently.

When we are in bear market, everyone rush to buy the coins they think will do well in the next cycle and they don't just buy any coin they see. They look at the fundamentals like you said, they look at the tokenomics and the supply of the coin, what the project has to over in the long run, it's project that continue to build and take the community along that wins in every cycle of bull run.

The only coins that doesn't have these pattern are meme coins and we know they are fuel by some hype, trend and what everyone wants for that time and as soon they are done with pump, they lay low again or may even die.
When bearish we should not buy meme coins, because meme coins only rely on hypes and meme coins are more suitable for short -term investments.
Whereas when bearish season, we must have a long -term plan. Choose potential coins, if I will buy the top coins at the time of bearish season and hold for the long term.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Baofeng on February 23, 2025, 01:59:48 PM
I also in the fear of the bear season.
Don't be afraid of it mate, instead grab bear season as an opportunity to DCA until you will reach the deepest dip of a cycle because when price started to come back up you will surely be making good gains that is if you got some capital to do DCA.

Who wouldn't? But I guess since most of us here have seen the worst and have been in many bear market or at least twice, then there is nothing to worry about.

As you have said, it should be the start of where we accumulate and do DCA and then wait again for the bull run to happen. So for me, maybe there will be supercycle, but I guess if we still have the 4 year block halving, then the pattern might still be same and this supercycle could not happen.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: albon on February 23, 2025, 02:13:10 PM
When bearish we should not buy meme coins, because meme coins only rely on hypes and meme coins are more suitable for short -term investments.
Whereas when bearish season, we must have a long -term plan. Choose potential coins, if I will buy the top coins at the time of bearish season and hold for the long term.

The volatility and speculative nature of meme coins affects the stability of crypto markets, creating risks and opportunities for investors and fintech startups. The meme currency has become a sensation in the crypto world, tapping into internet culture and humor. But what is the real reason behind their popularity? It really is the vibrant community around often driven by social media trends and celebrity endorsements. Investing in meme coins is a risky proposition with for fintech startups.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 24, 2025, 05:53:23 PM
The volatility and speculative nature of meme coins affects the stability of crypto markets, creating risks and opportunities for investors and fintech startups. The meme currency has become a sensation in the crypto world, tapping into internet culture and humor. But what is the real reason behind their popularity? It really is the vibrant community around often driven by social media trends and celebrity endorsements. Investing in meme coins is a risky proposition with for fintech startups.
We have had too many memecoins in this market, which make crypto become crazy instead of focusing on real values such as DeFi, RWA or DePIN. The market will be unstable if it turns into a casino of millions of memecoins, but at least we know that most memecoins will soon fail and disappear, they cannot create a supercycle!

Investors who put money into memecoins are like buying lottery tickets, they cannot apply fundamental analysis or technical analysis to trade new and very small-cap memecoins. I do not encourage this behavior, it should only be for fun when we have taken profits and want to use about $10 for entertainment from memecoins.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on February 25, 2025, 05:31:31 PM
For us to be able to arrived at making the necessary findings, we must take time to use the information sources we are having towards making the necessary research, in doing this, we are going to get used or the current market circle we are into and how we are taking on all the investment opportunities that comes after the same period, which as we know that each circle has it own benefits for accumulation and profitability when we engage on the right strategy.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: tequilla_sunset on February 25, 2025, 06:06:48 PM
Looking at the things now, I don't think there would be a super in this cycle  ;)

I would be glad if we even would climb up eventually, I am not asking much.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: electronicash on February 25, 2025, 08:27:34 PM
Looking at the things now, I don't think there would be a super in this cycle  ;)

I would be glad if we even would climb up eventually, I am not asking much.

the idea of supercycle i think floated in the previous bull run where price hitting high while the bear market doesn't look like a bear market and it will continue to go another ATH.

with the current dump today, i think this already spook the holders hoping for this supercycle. by now they have already panicked. i think its not over actually. price could bounce a bit and will be dumped again
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 27, 2025, 06:42:05 PM
For us to be able to arrived at making the necessary findings, we must take time to use the information sources we are having towards making the necessary research, in doing this, we are going to get used or the current market circle we are into and how we are taking on all the investment opportunities that comes after the same period, which as we know that each circle has it own benefits for accumulation and profitability when we engage on the right strategy.
Well, even though I have been in this market for a few cycles, I still have to admit that in each cycle, investors have a lot of skepticism, or whales may have manipulated sentiment and created skepticism for investors. For example, a few months ago we heard about the supercycle but currently many KOLs predict that the bullrun has officially ended and we are falling into the crypto winter.

COVID-19, trade wars, financial recession... are all convincing reasons for investors to easily believe in any negative scenario. Bear sounds very reasonable but Bull is still always the winner in the long term. For the time being, I think we should continue to monitor the market instead of rushing to make a sell-off decision. If the BTC price is held above $75K, I will not rush to be pessimistic!
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: ajiz138 on March 01, 2025, 05:26:29 PM
Looking at the things now, I don't think there would be a super in this cycle  ;)

I would be glad if we even would climb up eventually, I am not asking much.

the idea of supercycle i think floated in the previous bull run where price hitting high while the bear market doesn't look like a bear market and it will continue to go another ATH.

with the current dump today, i think this already spook the holders hoping for this supercycle. by now they have already panicked. i think its not over actually. price could bounce a bit and will be dumped again
In crypto, we cannot fully predict the market, so anything is possible. Assume that the super cycle exists, do we know where the highest point of the super cycle is? Because it could be unusual and could happen sooner or later.

Therefore, we are the ones who must be able to prepare everything, if there is a certain target, it is advisable to target realistically or not be too greedy.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: rizqillah on March 02, 2025, 01:28:17 PM
Looking at the things now, I don't think there would be a super in this cycle  ;)

I would be glad if we even would climb up eventually, I am not asking much.

the idea of supercycle i think floated in the previous bull run where price hitting high while the bear market doesn't look like a bear market and it will continue to go another ATH.

with the current dump today, i think this already spook the holders hoping for this supercycle. by now they have already panicked. i think its not over actually. price could bounce a bit and will be dumped again
In crypto, we cannot fully predict the market, so anything is possible. Assume that the super cycle exists, do we know where the highest point of the super cycle is? Because it could be unusual and could happen sooner or later.

Therefore, we are the ones who must be able to prepare everything, if there is a certain target, it is advisable to target realistically or not be too greedy.
The crypto market is indeed difficult to predict, but we can read market movements and follow trends.
I remember a friend's message, in crypto investment we must be patient and remain calm even though the market is corrected because the market will recover.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on March 02, 2025, 05:38:16 PM
The crypto market is indeed difficult to predict, but we can read market movements and follow trends.
I remember a friend's message, in crypto investment we must be patient and remain calm even though the market is corrected because the market will recover.
The time we enter the market is not as important as the duration/time we stay in the market, I learned this when looking back at the BTC price chart. Unfortunately, I was not wise enough and trusted the supercycle and past ALTs.

Currently, many investors mention short cycles, claiming that this bullrun has ended and we are going deep into the crypto winter with a sharp price drop coming as trade wars escalate globally. I believe this pessimistic view is also inappropriate, the crypto market boomed strongly in 2021 amid the Covid-19 pandemic instead of collapsing and ending the cycle in 2020. The cyclical behavior of the crypto market is extremely strong, enough to overcome the negative impacts from events in the global financial market.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: electronicash on March 02, 2025, 09:25:21 PM
Looking at the things now, I don't think there would be a super in this cycle  ;)

I would be glad if we even would climb up eventually, I am not asking much.

the idea of supercycle i think floated in the previous bull run where price hitting high while the bear market doesn't look like a bear market and it will continue to go another ATH.

with the current dump today, i think this already spook the holders hoping for this supercycle. by now they have already panicked. i think its not over actually. price could bounce a bit and will be dumped again
In crypto, we cannot fully predict the market, so anything is possible. Assume that the super cycle exists, do we know where the highest point of the super cycle is? Because it could be unusual and could happen sooner or later.

Therefore, we are the ones who must be able to prepare everything, if there is a certain target, it is advisable to target realistically or not be too greedy.

crypto isn't realistic anyway. but after Trump announces this crypto reserve which includes XRP, SOL and ADA i think this is heck of a good bullish trend. if the prices shoots to another mount of good increments. we are heading that supercycle and this time it could that altcoins and BTC will shoot together up mars.

yesterday, the market made everyone panic because it dips to 78k. but now every one wants to jump high.,
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on March 03, 2025, 05:47:58 PM
crypto isn't realistic anyway. but after Trump announces this crypto reserve which includes XRP, SOL and ADA i think this is heck of a good bullish trend. if the prices shoots to another mount of good increments. we are heading that supercycle and this time it could that altcoins and BTC will shoot together up mars.

yesterday, the market made everyone panic because it dips to 78k. but now every one wants to jump high.,
We will wait to reconfirm this. I think the US will need more time for official crypto accumulation laws to be passed and increase buying pressure in the market as well as drive FOMO for many other countries.

(https://www.tradingview.com/x/VHE3O75c/)

I don't believe the supercycle is ready to be activated yet. Current investor optimism may be what market makers want. I will only believe in the supercycle if the BTC price continues to be in the uptrend channel until 2027, otherwise, whenever the BTC price falls out of the uptrend channel I will exit the market.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: bayu7adi on March 08, 2025, 11:21:49 AM
Want not to believe it, but the reality says that it is real... how can I not believe this supercycle, while each cycle turns out to provide reality even though it is like a template... I know, there must be many people who think that this does not make sense, but some things happen according to the timeline, so that makes this cycle more real...

in 2017 I missed the bullish, because I really just found out about it... in 2021 I studied it to get evidence, and in 2025 I quite enjoyed the results... 9 years of my waiting, and that was enough to prove that the 3 cycles were real
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on March 09, 2025, 05:07:16 PM
Want not to believe it, but the reality says that it is real... how can I not believe this supercycle, while each cycle turns out to provide reality even though it is like a template... I know, there must be many people who think that this does not make sense, but some things happen according to the timeline, so that makes this cycle more real...

in 2017 I missed the bullish, because I really just found out about it... in 2021 I studied it to get evidence, and in 2025 I quite enjoyed the results... 9 years of my waiting, and that was enough to prove that the 3 cycles were real
We acknowledge the existence of the cycle: the crypto market will spend 4 years to grow and adjust, but we have never seen a supercycle. Many people once expected it in 2024 but now we no longer hear about it as BTC price falls below $90K and ALTs price returns to the bottom price zone. If someone talks about supercycle right now, he will find it very difficult to find support from the crypto community.

Now investors are thinking about the failure of this cycle, as we are in 2025 and the crypto market has not shown any signs of growth. Even recent important executive order from Trump could not trigger a bullrun, it seems investors had too high expectations so now they are extremely disappointed and scared ^^
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: bayu7adi on March 10, 2025, 02:57:34 AM
In crypto, we cannot fully predict the market, so anything is possible. Assume that the super cycle exists, do we know where the highest point of the super cycle is? Because it could be unusual and could happen sooner or later.

Therefore, we are the ones who must be able to prepare everything, if there is a certain target, it is advisable to target realistically or not be too greedy.
Whether you want to embrace it or not, the super cycle is still not free from mistakes... nothing is truly stable in this world, but until now the cycle has proven to be similar... we cannot assume for future market movements, will it still refer to the cycle, or go against the cycle... it is the choice of the users, whether to side with the cycle or not...

If you do not side, it is clear that the person is safe, does not lose and does not get any profit either.., but if you choose to side with it, there is a potential for profit, and there is a risk of loss if the decision is wrong..

IMO, the cycle is here to stay and has an impact on price movements and the psychology of the cryptocurrency community.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on March 10, 2025, 03:55:19 PM
Whether you want to embrace it or not, the super cycle is still not free from mistakes... nothing is truly stable in this world, but until now the cycle has proven to be similar... we cannot assume for future market movements, will it still refer to the cycle, or go against the cycle... it is the choice of the users, whether to side with the cycle or not...

If you do not side, it is clear that the person is safe, does not lose and does not get any profit either.., but if you choose to side with it, there is a potential for profit, and there is a risk of loss if the decision is wrong..

IMO, the cycle is here to stay and has an impact on price movements and the psychology of the cryptocurrency community.
Yeah, we all see the market repeating similar behaviors in previous cycles with a 4-year cycle, similar to the time between consecutive Halvings. Currently we rarely talk about the supercycle because the market is quite gloomy, today BTC price once dropped below $80K and many ALTs prices dropped sharply.

I hope we will soon see a recovery of BTC price and the entire crypto market. CZ said altseason has not come yet, I understand it will come but a little later than previous cycles due to the expansion of memecoins. I will wait for a signal to exit the market at the end of this year, I do not believe in the supercycle but also do not want this cycle to end right now, that is too early.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: target on March 10, 2025, 04:31:03 PM
Whether you want to embrace it or not, the super cycle is still not free from mistakes... nothing is truly stable in this world, but until now the cycle has proven to be similar... we cannot assume for future market movements, will it still refer to the cycle, or go against the cycle... it is the choice of the users, whether to side with the cycle or not...

If you do not side, it is clear that the person is safe, does not lose and does not get any profit either.., but if you choose to side with it, there is a potential for profit, and there is a risk of loss if the decision is wrong..

IMO, the cycle is here to stay and has an impact on price movements and the psychology of the cryptocurrency community.
Yeah, we all see the market repeating similar behaviors in previous cycles with a 4-year cycle, similar to the time between consecutive Halvings. Currently we rarely talk about the supercycle because the market is quite gloomy, today BTC price once dropped below $80K and many ALTs prices dropped sharply.

I hope we will soon see a recovery of BTC price and the entire crypto market. CZ said altseason has not come yet, I understand it will come but a little later than previous cycles due to the expansion of memecoins. I will wait for a signal to exit the market at the end of this year, I do not believe in the supercycle but also do not want this cycle to end right now, that is too early.

Its something to be scared of when the supercycle happen and then you have turned your coins to USDT and staked it on some exchange. The stakers will likely be chasing this supercycle and get out of the staking platform which in the end, lost a certain percent of their money. This is why I am not moving all stablecoins yet but just a percentage of them.

I'd like to believe its still possible because of the good news and the adoption we have these days.


Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: milewilda on March 10, 2025, 06:20:25 PM
Whether you want to embrace it or not, the super cycle is still not free from mistakes... nothing is truly stable in this world, but until now the cycle has proven to be similar... we cannot assume for future market movements, will it still refer to the cycle, or go against the cycle... it is the choice of the users, whether to side with the cycle or not...

If you do not side, it is clear that the person is safe, does not lose and does not get any profit either.., but if you choose to side with it, there is a potential for profit, and there is a risk of loss if the decision is wrong..

IMO, the cycle is here to stay and has an impact on price movements and the psychology of the cryptocurrency community.
Yeah, we all see the market repeating similar behaviors in previous cycles with a 4-year cycle, similar to the time between consecutive Halvings. Currently we rarely talk about the supercycle because the market is quite gloomy, today BTC price once dropped below $80K and many ALTs prices dropped sharply.

I hope we will soon see a recovery of BTC price and the entire crypto market. CZ said altseason has not come yet, I understand it will come but a little later than previous cycles due to the expansion of memecoins. I will wait for a signal to exit the market at the end of this year, I do not believe in the supercycle but also do not want this cycle to end right now, that is too early.

Its something to be scared of when the supercycle happen and then you have turned your coins to USDT and staked it on some exchange. The stakers will likely be chasing this supercycle and get out of the staking platform which in the end, lost a certain percent of their money. This is why I am not moving all stablecoins yet but just a percentage of them.

I'd like to believe its still possible because of the good news and the adoption we have these days.
We do have that 4 year marketcycle on which we do all know on which at the moment that you are already that having that huge pump then it will really be the best time that you should really be securing your profits and on the moment that you've seen the market on a dumping state then this is the moment that you do make use of your USDT on making up that buyback on which this is the most important thing on where having that buy low sell high kind of principle on which this is the best thing that you should really be that trying out to emphasis and trying out to focus on. If you've been here on this market for a while when it comes to previous cycles and this upcoming one then it will be better that you do really need to know on what you should gonna do on the moment or times that you will be handling out such condition. Its hard but if you do have that good grasps then it will be giving out that earning opportunity.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on March 12, 2025, 04:15:24 PM
Its something to be scared of when the supercycle happen and then you have turned your coins to USDT and staked it on some exchange. The stakers will likely be chasing this supercycle and get out of the staking platform which in the end, lost a certain percent of their money. This is why I am not moving all stablecoins yet but just a percentage of them.

I'd like to believe its still possible because of the good news and the adoption we have these days.
I'm not yet prepared for the supercycle, I still plan to exit the market this year if signals appear on the BTC price chart, for example if the BTC price falls out of the primary or secondary uptrend channel. If the supercycle happens after that, I won't regret it either because as long as the market exists and I still have capital, opportunities are still ahead for me ^^.

It's true that we currently have a lot of positive news from the US government and large corporations accepting crypto, but the market also needs re-accumulation before continuing to grow. The sideways movement of the market at this time is very clear evidence: the market will adjust when it is necessary for its long-term existence and development.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Blaze on April 03, 2025, 09:14:24 AM
Its something to be scared of when the supercycle happen and then you have turned your coins to USDT and staked it on some exchange. The stakers will likely be chasing this supercycle and get out of the staking platform which in the end, lost a certain percent of their money. This is why I am not moving all stablecoins yet but just a percentage of them.

I'd like to believe its still possible because of the good news and the adoption we have these days.
I'm not yet prepared for the supercycle, I still plan to exit the market this year if signals appear on the BTC price chart, for example if the BTC price falls out of the primary or secondary uptrend channel. If the supercycle happens after that, I won't regret it either because as long as the market exists and I still have capital, opportunities are still ahead for me ^^.

It's true that we currently have a lot of positive news from the US government and large corporations accepting crypto, but the market also needs re-accumulation before continuing to grow. The sideways movement of the market at this time is very clear evidence: the market will adjust when it is necessary for its long-term existence and development.
Unfortunately until now no one can be certain as to the movement of the market but come again with a good plan in place the decisions made will never seem so impulsive. It belongs to reality that there are general specifications on how better to meet the demands of the market already in digital assets and despite of these predicaments, there is still room for opportunity since the market is gradually expanding. At the moment, there are many changes occurring with regard to the legislation and the start of the new year for large enterprises, all of which are fully consistent with the normal cycle of the market’s development.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: r_victory on April 03, 2025, 01:17:19 PM
I believe that the market maintains some patterns in certain periods, but I don't get too attached to that.

The same pattern, for some reason that indirectly influences the market, may not happen.

(https://i.postimg.cc/52BSvWrw/Captura-de-tela-de-2025-04-03-08-13-27.png)

Look at Bitcoin, for example, it had practically its ATH in the last quarter of each year, but at the turn of 2022 to 2023, instead of a rise, there was a fall, and a big one, possibly influenced by the FTX case.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: dave_strider on April 04, 2025, 11:29:56 AM
I believe that the market maintains some patterns in certain periods, but I don't get too attached to that.

The same pattern, for some reason that indirectly influences the market, may not happen.

(https://i.postimg.cc/52BSvWrw/Captura-de-tela-de-2025-04-03-08-13-27.png)

Look at Bitcoin, for example, it had practically its ATH in the last quarter of each year, but at the turn of 2022 to 2023, instead of a rise, there was a fall, and a big one, possibly influenced by the FTX case.

Now we can see the drop (a small one, but still), due to the tariff wars and their ignition though recent days, and I don't think we will end it here.

But afterward, there should be confidence built up to rise again.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on April 05, 2025, 06:25:15 PM
I believe that the market maintains some patterns in certain periods, but I don't get too attached to that.

The same pattern, for some reason that indirectly influences the market, may not happen.

Look at Bitcoin, for example, it had practically its ATH in the last quarter of each year, but at the turn of 2022 to 2023, instead of a rise, there was a fall, and a big one, possibly influenced by the FTX case.
Except for the initial cycle in 2011, we've seen a repetition of the ATH pattern at the end of the year following the halving, for example 2013, 2017, 2021, and this time it could be the end of 2025. If this happens, the market cycle is still maintained instead of giving way to a supercycle with multiple new ATH created in 2026 & 2027.

Currently, not many KOLs are still talking about a supercycle; they are talking about a tiny-cycle with a shortening of the cycle, meaning BTC has already created its ATH for this cycle, and we no longer have the opportunity to see BTC create an ATH in the remainder of 2025. I don't trust this assessment yet either, I will continue to believe in history before new history is established.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Azharul on April 08, 2025, 09:17:07 AM
Whether you want to embrace it or not, the super cycle is still not free from mistakes... nothing is truly stable in this world, but until now the cycle has proven to be similar... we cannot assume for future market movements, will it still refer to the cycle, or go against the cycle... it is the choice of the users, whether to side with the cycle or not...

If you do not side, it is clear that the person is safe, does not lose and does not get any profit either.., but if you choose to side with it, there is a potential for profit, and there is a risk of loss if the decision is wrong..

IMO, the cycle is here to stay and has an impact on price movements and the psychology of the cryptocurrency community.
Yeah, we all see the market repeating similar behaviors in previous cycles with a 4-year cycle, similar to the time between consecutive Halvings. Currently we rarely talk about the supercycle because the market is quite gloomy, today BTC price once dropped below $80K and many ALTs prices dropped sharply.

I hope we will soon see a recovery of BTC price and the entire crypto market. CZ said altseason has not come yet, I understand it will come but a little later than previous cycles due to the expansion of memecoins. I will wait for a signal to exit the market at the end of this year, I do not believe in the supercycle but also do not want this cycle to end right now, that is too early.
Actually, i think that your comment is also very prefer in this moment. We know that bitcoin is one of the best profitable crypto, which is the king of crypto in cryptocurrency world. So i think that any moment we can see big "supercycle" in cryptocurrency market. But we also know that crypto currency market is always depending on up and down. So if we follow in cryptocurrency market we can see that bitcoin price is remain down position. I think that world war is one of the best reason for this situation. But i think that when war will end, we must see "supercycle" again in cryptocurrency market.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: dave_strider on April 08, 2025, 11:34:10 AM
Except for the initial cycle in 2011, we've seen a repetition of the ATH pattern at the end of the year following the halving, for example 2013, 2017, 2021, and this time it could be the end of 2025. If this happens, the market cycle is still maintained instead of giving way to a supercycle with multiple new ATH created in 2026 & 2027.

Currently, not many KOLs are still talking about a supercycle; they are talking about a tiny-cycle with a shortening of the cycle, meaning BTC has already created its ATH for this cycle, and we no longer have the opportunity to see BTC create an ATH in the remainder of 2025. I don't trust this assessment yet either, I will continue to believe in history before new history is established.

Agreed through and through, I do think the rebounce will happen this year and it is going to start building up when this fuddy mood on the market would be gone, so that investors would build up the confidence to pour the liquidity in the right direction.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Report on April 13, 2025, 07:22:05 PM
Super Cycle must exist because I am in the cryptocurrency environment. I don't want to miss the support for this Super Cycle because it seems like the right moment.
I am also sure that the Super Cycle that OP means is the increase in the price of Bitcoin from the current price of around 83,000 dollars to 130,000 dollars or more. This is just my guess because I have seen the Bitcoin price chart inserted by OP in this thread.

Btw, I see that if from the image inserted by OP, we look closely, then the price of Bitcoin should be able to touch the price of 160,000 dollars, is that a realistic guess?
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: nowak_bosch on April 13, 2025, 07:27:10 PM
Super Cycle must exist because I am in the cryptocurrency environment. I don't want to miss the support for this Super Cycle because it seems like the right moment.
I am also sure that the Super Cycle that OP means is the increase in the price of Bitcoin from the current price of around 83,000 dollars to 130,000 dollars or more. This is just my guess because I have seen the Bitcoin price chart inserted by OP in this thread.

Btw, I see that if from the image inserted by OP, we look closely, then the price of Bitcoin should be able to touch the price of 160,000 dollars, is that a realistic guess?

Depends on so many factors that we cannot be sure, indeed.

There are lots of actors on the market that push the investors and sentiment in different directions, but some are more bullish, some think the bear is already there (which I don't believe into).

BTC should be able to climb back where it left its ATH and push forward, because where there is a dip, there is a flow of confidence going afterward eventually.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: erus on April 14, 2025, 11:35:08 AM
A little bit in disbelief because I see that this cryptocurrency is unpredictable. Supercycle may also happen but it will not happen because Bitcoin's price cannot be predicted.
A little look at the history of the past and everything that has happened so far with the Bitcoin chart which continues to rise gradually every year, then the next phase is that the price will also increase, although later the price will go down again.
Supercycle will also definitely have the opposite effect, after the supercycle goes up there will definitely be a Supercycle that goes down and then all cryptocurrencies have a Bearish period but back to the beginning, which is unpredictable.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: bayu7adi on April 14, 2025, 01:03:43 PM
A little bit in disbelief because I see that this cryptocurrency is unpredictable. Supercycle may also happen but it will not happen because Bitcoin's price cannot be predicted.
A little look at the history of the past and everything that has happened so far with the Bitcoin chart which continues to rise gradually every year, then the next phase is that the price will also increase, although later the price will go down again.
Supercycle will also definitely have the opposite effect, after the supercycle goes up there will definitely be a Supercycle that goes down and then all cryptocurrencies have a Bearish period but back to the beginning, which is unpredictable.
Hmmm... but it really happened in the history of Bitcoin halving... it's real and even ATH is always formed according to the supercycle... I do understand the meaning of price fluctuations that can never be predicted, but at least with historical data we can know that the supercycle is indeed valid, it's just that there might be an acceleration or maybe a slowdown due to several factors... what is certain is that the reference is Bitcoin halving...

I am one of those who believe it... and in the last two cycles, I was lucky enough because it was still on track...
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Gurujebs on April 14, 2025, 09:56:41 PM

Depends on so many factors that we cannot be sure, indeed.

There are lots of actors on the market that push the investors and sentiment in different directions, but some are more bullish, some think the bear is already there (which I don't believe into).

BTC should be able to climb back where it left its ATH and push forward, because where there is a dip, there is a flow of confidence going afterward eventually.

If we take our political sentiments of Bitcoin action, we can say that Bitcoin has been trading on $80k range for long time and it's trying to manage because we are now likely in sell zone in big time frames but if we can manage between this 80k and higher, Bitcoin can be able to climb back higher or even break more all time high.

However, if we fail to hold into that price, it will be a bad signal because it will try trigger alot of sell pressure to the market and the price might want to dump even more and it's very dangerous where it's trading right now.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Jating on April 15, 2025, 12:41:12 AM

Depends on so many factors that we cannot be sure, indeed.

There are lots of actors on the market that push the investors and sentiment in different directions, but some are more bullish, some think the bear is already there (which I don't believe into).

BTC should be able to climb back where it left its ATH and push forward, because where there is a dip, there is a flow of confidence going afterward eventually.

If we take our political sentiments of Bitcoin action, we can say that Bitcoin has been trading on $80k range for long time and it's trying to manage because we are now likely in sell zone in big time frames but if we can manage between this 80k and higher, Bitcoin can be able to climb back higher or even break more all time high.

However, if we fail to hold into that price, it will be a bad signal because it will try trigger alot of sell pressure to the market and the price might want to dump even more and it's very dangerous where it's trading right now.
I don't think that we are in the sell zone, the market has been trading sideways for the last couple of months and so we are in the accumulation phase still. Even if we are just in the last leg of the bull run, and with this kind of movement, it's better to still buy and then how it goes. If there is a supercycle then at least we are ready specially if it goes on a parabolic rise. If we are in the bear market, then saving is the key and think of the bigger picture, long term investment is the key.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: erus on April 15, 2025, 06:39:11 AM
A little bit in disbelief because I see that this cryptocurrency is unpredictable. Supercycle may also happen but it will not happen because Bitcoin's price cannot be predicted.
A little look at the history of the past and everything that has happened so far with the Bitcoin chart which continues to rise gradually every year, then the next phase is that the price will also increase, although later the price will go down again.
Supercycle will also definitely have the opposite effect, after the supercycle goes up there will definitely be a Supercycle that goes down and then all cryptocurrencies have a Bearish period but back to the beginning, which is unpredictable.
Hmmm... but it really happened in the history of Bitcoin halving... it's real and even ATH is always formed according to the supercycle... I do understand the meaning of price fluctuations that can never be predicted, but at least with historical data we can know that the supercycle is indeed valid, it's just that there might be an acceleration or maybe a slowdown due to several factors... what is certain is that the reference is Bitcoin halving...
Luckily you have known crypto for a long time, while I have only known crypto for a few months. I think your reference will be the best knowledge for me, even though there will be a drop in the price of Bitcoin but now I am starting to believe that there will be another Supercycle in crypto.

I am one of those who believe it... and in the last two cycles, I was lucky enough because it was still on track...
If this Supercycle will happen, then what price do you think the Bitcoin price target will reach when this Supercycle occurs?
Will the Bitcoin price exceed the price of 120,000 dollars?
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: omori on April 15, 2025, 08:42:48 AM
I don't think that we are in the sell zone, the market has been trading sideways for the last couple of months and so we are in the accumulation phase still. Even if we are just in the last leg of the bull run, and with this kind of movement, it's better to still buy and then how it goes. If there is a supercycle then at least we are ready specially if it goes on a parabolic rise. If we are in the bear market, then saving is the key and think of the bigger picture, long term investment is the key.

Bottom or not, if we buy big caps, we are going to get the profit in the long run.

Many see 2025 as the year to propel their portfolios forward, and rightfully so - there was already a pullback we saw, and now, we need to see the opposite of it, but when it happens - nobody would know.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Report on April 15, 2025, 10:11:10 AM
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Btw, I see that if from the image inserted by OP, we look closely, then the price of Bitcoin should be able to touch the price of 160,000 dollars, is that a realistic guess?
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BTC should be able to climb back where it left its ATH and push forward, because where there is a dip, there is a flow of confidence going afterward eventually.
The problem is as you said, we don't know what factors can increase the price of Bitcoin at this time because Bitcoin from a price of 103,000 dollars has fallen back to its current price of around 83,000 dollars.
Although the total price of Bitcoin has increased gradually, short-term investors do not have the patience of long-term investors, they only want short-term profits.

Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Bitcoin Halving, all factors are present in Bitcoin but now Bitcoin is still fighting at a price of around 83,000 dollars. So what other factors will there be if Bitcoin wants to reach an all-time high again?
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: odin on April 15, 2025, 10:24:05 AM
The problem is as you said, we don't know what factors can increase the price of Bitcoin at this time because Bitcoin from a price of 103,000 dollars has fallen back to its current price of around 83,000 dollars.
Although the total price of Bitcoin has increased gradually, short-term investors do not have the patience of long-term investors, they only want short-term profits.

Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Bitcoin Halving, all factors are present in Bitcoin but now Bitcoin is still fighting at a price of around 83,000 dollars. So what other factors will there be if Bitcoin wants to reach an all-time high again?

No fud around the overall situation on the market and everybody accepting that it's time to go up, apparently ;)
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Stompix on April 16, 2025, 01:40:35 PM
In 2017, the "supercycle" was mentioned again during the ICO fever and BTC price reached $20K. Investors heard interesting ideas in every field being brought to the blockchain and crypto becoming a means of payment for those services. ICOs were even considered a more efficient way of raising capital than IPOs, meaning the capital raising process would be changed by crypto and the stock market would shift towards tokenization. This expectation collapsed due to the 2018-2019 crypto winter.

In 2021, the "supercycle" was fueled by the belief in crypto applications, including DeFi as a replacement for CeFI, GameFi bringing blockchain & crypto into everyday life, and NFTs tokenizing non-fungible assets. Many KOLs even declared: the supercycle is BTC at $100K. The reality is that BTC price failed to reach $100K in 2021-2022, and the supercycle became a bitter joke. I couldn't take profits at the peak and lost most of my gains.

This year, 2025, the "supercycle" is mentioned again with BTC success in conquering $100K and the BTC Spot ETF. Additionally, Trump win has opened new opportunities for BTC and crypto in the US and globally.

So let me sum this up
-2017 ICO scams, lots of FOMO
-2019 DeFi, NFT, a ton of scams, lots of FOMO
-2025 Trump, a meme coin scammer, lots of FOMO

Why would anyone want any of those supercycles again?
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Report on April 16, 2025, 02:39:13 PM
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Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Bitcoin Halving, all factors are present in Bitcoin but now Bitcoin is still fighting at a price of around 83,000 dollars. So what other factors will there be if Bitcoin wants to reach an all-time high again?

No fud around the overall situation on the market and everybody accepting that it's time to go up, apparently ;)
If you look at the total price of Bitcoin so far, there has been no significant price drop, but do you see altcoins now dropping very far when Bitcoin's all-time high was just reached and then now it's down?
Do you hold altcoins like Ethereum which reached a price of $3,300 and then now the price has dropped to $1,430, see it drop almost half the price. Aren't you panicking?
Waiting for the Super Cycle in a position where the altcoins lose half their price is very sad, especially for those who are holders of various altcoins.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: odin on April 16, 2025, 02:51:49 PM
If you look at the total price of Bitcoin so far, there has been no significant price drop, but do you see altcoins now dropping very far when Bitcoin's all-time high was just reached and then now it's down?
Do you hold altcoins like Ethereum which reached a price of $3,300 and then now the price has dropped to $1,430, see it drop almost half the price. Aren't you panicking?
Waiting for the Super Cycle in a position where the altcoins lose half their price is very sad, especially for those who are holders of various altcoins.

If we hold in spot, don't you think that, eventually, we will reach the previous price anyways? Then there is nothing to worry about, as long as funds we are holding won't be needed to be converted in a dire need.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: hollow knight on April 16, 2025, 02:55:31 PM
So let me sum this up
-2017 ICO scams, lots of FOMO
-2019 DeFi, NFT, a ton of scams, lots of FOMO
-2025 Trump, a meme coin scammer, lots of FOMO

Why would anyone want any of those supercycles again?

Because of profits, of course.

After big FUD, comes big rebounce.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Stompix on April 16, 2025, 03:23:14 PM
After big FUD, comes big rebounce.

FUD?
We're on the brink of an economic war, companies are shutting down, some are not accepting or even purchasing from stock, thousands are delaying signing contracts, and you think this is FUD? No, this is called copium denial, it's just likE those guys who still  China is not bannign Bitcoin and is dealing in secret with it, copium, wishfull thinking, denial, unicorn farts snoring, everythign but certainly not FUD.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: |MINER| on April 16, 2025, 04:02:12 PM
This supercycle in the market is not irrational. There are logical reasons behind it. That's why I believe this supercycle exists in the crypto market.
Here is a simple thing we need to see, as time goes by, the population of this world is increasing relentlessly and at the same time people are becoming adults, along with this, the number of people in the crypto market is increasing very rapidly and which will continue in the future.
As such, since bitcoin is limited, if adoption increases, there will definitely be more demand and when the demand is high, its price automatically increases.
So I believe in this super cycle.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Baofeng on April 17, 2025, 04:22:07 PM
In 2017, the "supercycle" was mentioned again during the ICO fever and BTC price reached $20K. Investors heard interesting ideas in every field being brought to the blockchain and crypto becoming a means of payment for those services. ICOs were even considered a more efficient way of raising capital than IPOs, meaning the capital raising process would be changed by crypto and the stock market would shift towards tokenization. This expectation collapsed due to the 2018-2019 crypto winter.

In 2021, the "supercycle" was fueled by the belief in crypto applications, including DeFi as a replacement for CeFI, GameFi bringing blockchain & crypto into everyday life, and NFTs tokenizing non-fungible assets. Many KOLs even declared: the supercycle is BTC at $100K. The reality is that BTC price failed to reach $100K in 2021-2022, and the supercycle became a bitter joke. I couldn't take profits at the peak and lost most of my gains.

This year, 2025, the "supercycle" is mentioned again with BTC success in conquering $100K and the BTC Spot ETF. Additionally, Trump win has opened new opportunities for BTC and crypto in the US and globally.

So let me sum this up
-2017 ICO scams, lots of FOMO
-2019 DeFi, NFT, a ton of scams, lots of FOMO
-2025 Trump, a meme coin scammer, lots of FOMO

Why would anyone want any of those supercycles again?

2020-2021 Play to earn as well was huge that time, but then we all know that this kind of hypes and there are also scammers using that as a opportunity.

So if there is a cycle then that could be it. Cycles of scams coming in every cycle in just different shape or form. But still the market buys then and then later regret their decision.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: $crypto$ on April 17, 2025, 05:57:54 PM
After big FUD, comes big rebounce.

FUD?
We're on the brink of an economic war, companies are shutting down, some are not accepting or even purchasing from stock, thousands are delaying signing contracts, and you think this is FUD? No, this is called copium denial, it's just likE those guys who still  China is not bannign Bitcoin and is dealing in secret with it, copium, wishfull thinking, denial, unicorn farts snoring, everythign but certainly not FUD.
You are right, we also have to be able to distinguish between FUD and what is really happening because of the ongoing economic war situation.

But despite all that, we can still see bitcoin maintaining something that we might not find from other things. Declines and increases are commonplace, we can't want to continue to see continuous increases without a situation where we have to go down.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: densus88 on April 17, 2025, 11:01:25 PM
After big FUD, comes big rebounce.

FUD?
We're on the brink of an economic war, companies are shutting down, some are not accepting or even purchasing from stock, thousands are delaying signing contracts, and you think this is FUD? No, this is called copium denial, it's just likE those guys who still  China is not bannign Bitcoin and is dealing in secret with it, copium, wishfull thinking, denial, unicorn farts snoring, everythign but certainly not FUD.
You are right, we also have to be able to distinguish between FUD and what is really happening because of the ongoing economic war situation.

But despite all that, we can still see bitcoin maintaining something that we might not find from other things. Declines and increases are commonplace, we can't want to continue to see continuous increases without a situation where we have to go down.
yeah we have to be able to distinguish between FUD and reality, currently the global economic condition is experiencing a recession and the tariff war has a big impact on the stock market and the crypto market. but bitcoin has started to improve, so it is likely that altcoin will soon follow suit and experience a price increase.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: UNIVERSE on April 17, 2025, 11:59:32 PM
FUD?
We're on the brink of an economic war, companies are shutting down, some are not accepting or even purchasing from stock, thousands are delaying signing contracts, and you think this is FUD? No, this is called copium denial, it's just likE those guys who still  China is not bannign Bitcoin and is dealing in secret with it, copium, wishfull thinking, denial, unicorn farts snoring, everythign but certainly not FUD.
Yes, it is real. But some news can be called as FUDs. People who assume it is FUDs, they may assume the issues are too much. But they don't do deep research on the news/issues.

This supercycle in the market is not irrational. There are logical reasons behind it. That's why I believe this supercycle exists in the crypto market. Here is a simple thing we need to see, as time goes by, the population of this world is increasing relentlessly and at the same time people are becoming adults, along with this, the number of people in the crypto market is increasing very rapidly and which will continue in the future.
How you define supercycle? I think it is the similar cycle as in the past, I'm not sure about supercycle that OP means. However, I can agree that the demand for crypto will be increasing if people become more familiar with crypto. This may lead for the growing of crypto prices. So, in the future we may see the rapid increase in most crypto prices.


Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: $crypto$ on April 18, 2025, 03:13:03 PM
You are right, we also have to be able to distinguish between FUD and what is really happening because of the ongoing economic war situation.

But despite all that, we can still see bitcoin maintaining something that we might not find from other things. Declines and increases are commonplace, we can't want to continue to see continuous increases without a situation where we have to go down.
yeah we have to be able to distinguish between FUD and reality, currently the global economic condition is experiencing a recession and the tariff war has a big impact on the stock market and the crypto market. but bitcoin has started to improve, so it is likely that altcoin will soon follow suit and experience a price increase.
Well, maybe what is different but looks the same is when people take advantage of the situation to create news that seems worse than what actually happened, and this could probably be called FUD.

For example, the economic war situation that is currently happening, it is used by them to create worse news about bitcoin and maybe it didn't even happen at all, but it seems to happen because the situation is indeed not good.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: |MINER| on April 18, 2025, 10:41:09 PM
How you define supercycle? I think it is the similar cycle as in the past, I'm not sure about supercycle that OP means. However, I can agree that the demand for crypto will be increasing if people become more familiar with crypto. This may lead for the growing of crypto prices. So, in the future we may see the rapid increase in most crypto prices.
In my personal opinion how I can define the super cycle of Bitcoin I have already define that in my previous post.
Even if I have to say little bit more than, I will say just the days will go the most people will just come to the crypto space and space and in every cycle of halving I mean the after Bitcoin halving we can saw the bull season and also afte having the bull season the price will definitely back on the bear season as it is nuture of it's.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: UNIVERSE on April 18, 2025, 11:09:11 PM
In my personal opinion how I can define the super cycle of Bitcoin I have already define that in my previous post.
Even if I have to say little bit more than, I will say just the days will go the most people will just come to the crypto space and space and in every cycle of halving I mean the after Bitcoin halving we can saw the bull season and also afte having the bull season the price will definitely back on the bear season as it is nuture of it's.
In the post quoted by me, I don't see the definition of supercyle that you mean. If you still remember your previous post, please share the link on the post. I'm a bit curious with your personal definition.

People always come and go from crypto space. I think it is common thing, we don't need to feel doubtful. Sure, after Bitcoin reaches its peak, the price should decline gradually. However, it is not easy to predict the next lowest price or the dip.

Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: sampoerna on April 18, 2025, 11:30:10 PM
In the post quoted by me, I don't see the definition of supercyle that you mean. If you still remember your previous post, please share the link on the post. I'm a bit curious with your personal definition.

People always come and go from crypto space. I think it is common thing, we don't need to feel doubtful. Sure, after Bitcoin reaches its peak, the price should decline gradually. However, it is not easy to predict the next lowest price or the dip.
In general, the phase is like this, but specifically, sometimes we are the ones who often feel a little doubtful about when the peak and decline will begin. because the crypto space is indeed like this. But so far, at least, if we have indeed tried to share things to get optimal profit from crypto, yes, we must be much more patient in dealing with all the conditions of the crypto market that occur, which often make us anxious and feel uneasy.

but basically, emotional management in managing crypto assets is very necessary so that we will not easily panic and be impatient in dealing with the reality of the current crypto market coin. and indeed, after Bitcoin reaches its peak season, the ATH, then usually there will be a continuous decline for several years experiencing a bearish period, and before that arrives, if there is indeed an opportunity and target to do TP, then just do it as long as it is still within the reach of our funds management.

which for the future, these funds can be managed again for various needs, of course some percentages to be reinvested in Bitcoin during the bear run period.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Wiwo on April 19, 2025, 12:43:36 AM
You are right, we also have to be able to distinguish between FUD and what is really happening because of the ongoing economic war situation.

But despite all that, we can still see bitcoin maintaining something that we might not find from other things. Declines and increases are commonplace, we can't want to continue to see continuous increases without a situation where we have to go down.
yeah we have to be able to distinguish between FUD and reality, currently the global economic condition is experiencing a recession and the tariff war has a big impact on the stock market and the crypto market. but bitcoin has started to improve, so it is likely that altcoin will soon follow suit and experience a price increase.
Well, maybe what is different but looks the same is when people take advantage of the situation to create news that seems worse than what actually happened, and this could probably be called FUD.

For example, the economic war situation that is currently happening, it is used by them to create worse news about bitcoin and maybe it didn't even happen at all, but it seems to happen because the situation is indeed not good.
Trying to avoid being misinformed is most important since we are in the AI age and the social media area age, the ability and possibilities to Make and create false information is supper easy and readily available just to cause distractions and create misinformation because they already have such tools to create something fake we should believe.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: $crypto$ on April 19, 2025, 01:29:48 PM
Well, maybe what is different but looks the same is when people take advantage of the situation to create news that seems worse than what actually happened, and this could probably be called FUD.

For example, the economic war situation that is currently happening, it is used by them to create worse news about bitcoin and maybe it didn't even happen at all, but it seems to happen because the situation is indeed not good.
Trying to avoid being misinformed is most important since we are in the AI age and the social media area age, the ability and possibilities to Make and create false information is supper easy and readily available just to cause distractions and create misinformation because they already have such tools to create something fake we should believe.
Yes, it is true, even now information is more easily spread without any clear source, but people spread it so easily even when they only look at the title and never read the contents of the information.

However, I am sure that most people who join a forum like this will be more careful and will not easily believe information but will find out more about the information.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: |MINER| on April 19, 2025, 08:11:13 PM
In my personal opinion how I can define the super cycle of Bitcoin I have already define that in my previous post.
Even if I have to say little bit more than, I will say just the days will go the most people will just come to the crypto space and space and in every cycle of halving I mean the after Bitcoin halving we can saw the bull season and also afte having the bull season the price will definitely back on the bear season as it is nuture of it's.
In the post quoted by me, I don't see the definition of supercyle that you mean. If you still remember your previous post, please share the link on the post. I'm a bit curious with your personal definition.
You quoted half of my post in your previous post, and I think you are asking me now after seeing that half-quoted post that, I did not give any definition about supercycles.
Each person's definition and opinions could be different and opinions . I have described my personal opinion above. Now, your opinion may differ from mine. This is not unusual.
By the way, can you tell me a little more clearly where you are actually curious?  ::)


People always come and go from crypto space. I think it is common thing, we don't need to feel doubtful. Sure, after Bitcoin reaches its peak, the price should decline gradually. However, it is not easy to predict the next lowest price or the dip.
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Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on April 22, 2025, 07:36:24 PM
In general, the phase is like this, but specifically, sometimes we are the ones who often feel a little doubtful about when the peak and decline will begin. because the crypto space is indeed like this. But so far, at least, if we have indeed tried to share things to get optimal profit from crypto, yes, we must be much more patient in dealing with all the conditions of the crypto market that occur, which often make us anxious and feel uneasy.

but basically, emotional management in managing crypto assets is very necessary so that we will not easily panic and be impatient in dealing with the reality of the current crypto market coin. and indeed, after Bitcoin reaches its peak season, the ATH, then usually there will be a continuous decline for several years experiencing a bearish period, and before that arrives, if there is indeed an opportunity and target to do TP, then just do it as long as it is still within the reach of our funds management.

which for the future, these funds can be managed again for various needs, of course some percentages to be reinvested in Bitcoin during the bear run period.
Well, as I've seen in many previous cycles, people always think about a supercycle at the peak and assume the market will never recover at the bottom. Right now, after BTC dropped to $75K, the captivating supercycle narrative isn't mentioned as often, but investors forget very quickly. As soon as the BTC price surpasses $110K, we'll hear overly optimistic predictions again.

Investors need clear TPs or clear signals to exit the market when necessary. Everything that grows needs adjustments for rebalancing and re-accumulation. New investors should especially be aware of the finite nature of growth waves in the financial market. Price drops will definitely come, finding profit-taking points is our job!
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: sampoerna on April 24, 2025, 11:55:50 PM
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Well, as I've seen in many previous cycles, people always think about a supercycle at the peak and assume the market will never recover at the bottom. Right now, after BTC dropped to $75K, the captivating supercycle narrative isn't mentioned as often, but investors forget very quickly. As soon as the BTC price surpasses $110K, we'll hear overly optimistic predictions again.

Investors need clear TPs or clear signals to exit the market when necessary. Everything that grows needs adjustments for rebalancing and re-accumulation. New investors should especially be aware of the finite nature of growth waves in the financial market. Price drops will definitely come, finding profit-taking points is our job!
There are many claims, many predictions, funds and many speculations that are often excessive when BTC is in a certain condition. As is happening now, I even found some people on social media who have immediately believed that it is time for Bitcoin to fly to $ 150k.

In fact, based on what has happened so far, it will not be that easy to suddenly soar so high again that significantly. We still need to break through some resistance and behind all that, there will definitely be a correction, until at a certain support. This will definitely happen, and we ourselves determine in which area if we want to do TP when the price goes up or buy during a correction. This is for the short term percentage. However, for long term holders of full assets, then it will not be wrong at any point later.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Legion on April 25, 2025, 08:49:15 AM
Well, maybe what is different but looks the same is when people take advantage of the situation to create news that seems worse than what actually happened, and this could probably be called FUD.

For example, the economic war situation that is currently happening, it is used by them to create worse news about bitcoin and maybe it didn't even happen at all, but it seems to happen because the situation is indeed not good.
Trying to avoid being misinformed is most important since we are in the AI age and the social media area age, the ability and possibilities to Make and create false information is supper easy and readily available just to cause distractions and create misinformation because they already have such tools to create something fake we should believe.
Yes, it is true, even now information is more easily spread without any clear source, but people spread it so easily even when they only look at the title and never read the contents of the information.

However, I am sure that most people who join a forum like this will be more careful and will not easily believe information but will find out more about the information.
You are quite correct, now with the advanced technologies it is very easy to share information without proper confirmation. Just, the title of the posts appears to many people and as such, they propagate the information without taking their time to analyse. But in this forum many of us seem to be so sceptical and does not accept every information that is posted as a fact. As everyone is aware, one must be sure of source when one would like to make the correct decision. We can question each other and try to understand what the message means before share it to other people.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Bobcrypto on April 25, 2025, 12:57:43 PM
What makes super cycle is different with common cycle? I think there is no much difference between them. Especially in the current cycle, it even can be categorized as a weaker cycle because there is no much pump on altcoins prices. So far, we only saw significant move on Bitcoin price. But for the altcoins, many of them even couldn't reach their ATHs in 2021. How we can expect for super cycle in this year? Do you still believe in big pump on altcoins season?

I think that the idea of a Bitcoin super circle is not necessarily because they is no difference but it is basically describing the effects of the current market demands that has affected the normal circle in which almost everyone is expecting a new beginnings of bullish momentum especially for altcoins in my opinion.
Now we are supposed  be on a new bitcoin circle in 2025, but it like there is actually a change of market trends, patterns, the market seem to have deviated from the normal circle
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: $crypto$ on April 25, 2025, 05:42:38 PM
Yes, it is true, even now information is more easily spread without any clear source, but people spread it so easily even when they only look at the title and never read the contents of the information.

However, I am sure that most people who join a forum like this will be more careful and will not easily believe information but will find out more about the information.
You are quite correct, now with the advanced technologies it is very easy to share information without proper confirmation. Just, the title of the posts appears to many people and as such, they propagate the information without taking their time to analyse. But in this forum many of us seem to be so sceptical and does not accept every information that is posted as a fact. As everyone is aware, one must be sure of source when one would like to make the correct decision. We can question each other and try to understand what the message means before share it to other people.
There are still many people who are lazy to read, so they will conclude the information they get without analyzing it first. And indeed people like that will be easily influenced by information that comes to them.

While people who are detailed will be detailed when they get new information and will not even hesitate to argue for someone to show a clear and trustworthy source.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: taufik123 on April 25, 2025, 07:11:19 PM
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Now we are supposed  be on a new bitcoin circle in 2025, but it like there is actually a change of market trends, patterns, the market seem to have deviated from the normal circle
Deviating from the previous normal circle and creating a new trend that will not be stopped.
The Bitcoin trend in 2025 is indeed influenced by many factors, especially strong fundamental factors and about how the global economic situation affects the crypto market, especially Bitcoin.

Now just wait to see what will happen with the crypto market trend, as the Bitcoin Price has already reached $95k++ at the moment and can it reach another $10k and reach a new ATH?
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: electronicash on April 25, 2025, 08:42:23 PM

halving year was over already yet we are seeing BTC price soaring again, it could really be true that we are going to have a bull run despite it. there were people talking about BTC supply is getting low on exchanges which means prices could really be reaching to another heights.

supercycle might just be here. we have been hearing this supercycle since 2021 it could really be happening now and selling your BTC as of this time will be a big mistake.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Gurujebs on April 25, 2025, 09:44:42 PM
I think that the idea of a Bitcoin super circle is not necessarily because they is no difference but it is basically describing the effects of the current market demands that has affected the normal circle in which almost everyone is expecting a new beginnings of bullish momentum especially for altcoins in my opinion.
Now we are supposed  be on a new bitcoin circle in 2025, but it like there is actually a change of market trends, patterns, the market seem to have deviated from the normal circle

Bitcoin is built to have a 4 year cycle and the past history has shown that at every bull run that we do experience, there must be a new all time high. If we experience another by run by 2028, we should be expecting a new all price for Bitcoin, that's how it has been and it not necessary the new price must be immediately, but it usually achieved after a new Bitcoin halving.

Whether people believe in it or they don't, it's something that's now tradition in Bitcoin and when the time comes, people will want to have something to do with it, so the earlier you hold Bitcoin, the better so when others are celebrating, you will be celebrating with others.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Vx1 on April 25, 2025, 10:57:44 PM
If the price of Bitcoin continues to increase and a new ATH occurs, this will be history, and we will certainly be happy to see conditions like this. Actually, many people know that the price of Bitcoin will be able to reach $ 100k again, but the increase in the day shows that the price of Bitcoin has reached $ 95k, only a few more will reach $ 100k.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: UNIVERSE on April 25, 2025, 11:49:32 PM
If the price of Bitcoin continues to increase and a new ATH occurs, this will be history, and we will certainly be happy to see conditions like this. Actually, many people know that the price of Bitcoin will be able to reach $ 100k again, but the increase in the day shows that the price of Bitcoin has reached $ 95k, only a few more will reach $ 100k.
New ATH has been reached in January. But I agree that we still have a chance to see a new ATH again in the rest of months. For the new ATH, we need to see the Bitcoin price around $100k. When the price crossed $100k, it is very possible for the new ATH. There are already many predictions about the possible ATH, I think you have read the predictions. Some people assume the next ATH will be $120k, other said it will be $150k, and few people guessed it will be above $170k.

Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: enwi on April 26, 2025, 09:23:24 AM
If the price of Bitcoin continues to increase and a new ATH occurs, this will be history, and we will certainly be happy to see conditions like this. Actually, many people know that the price of Bitcoin will be able to reach $ 100k again, but the increase in the day shows that the price of Bitcoin has reached $ 95k, only a few more will reach $ 100k.
Today’s Bitcoin looks more like witnessing one of those grand ideas that make people believe in even the impossible dreams and it is possible to see great outcomes. Those of you who invested your time when everyone else lost their patient can serve as an example of what the consistency can bring to $95k is not a mere conjuring trick, it is the outcome of the technological advancements, market liberalisation, and high demand. In this regard, I think that it is proper to remain non presumptuous as much as possible because as we have seen, crypto caught many flat-footed who did not expect it.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Kemarit on April 26, 2025, 10:51:01 PM
If the price of Bitcoin continues to increase and a new ATH occurs, this will be history, and we will certainly be happy to see conditions like this. Actually, many people know that the price of Bitcoin will be able to reach $ 100k again, but the increase in the day shows that the price of Bitcoin has reached $ 95k, only a few more will reach $ 100k.
New ATH has been reached in January. But I agree that we still have a chance to see a new ATH again in the rest of months. For the new ATH, we need to see the Bitcoin price around $100k. When the price crossed $100k, it is very possible for the new ATH. There are already many predictions about the possible ATH, I think you have read the predictions. Some people assume the next ATH will be $120k, other said it will be $150k, and few people guessed it will be above $170k.

Still many months ahead of us to make a new ATH, and as far as historical logs goes, usually in a bull run year, it is during the last quarter that we will see those tremendous increased in prices as high as 30% in a given month.

So we are still in the schedule to hit as big as what you have speculated, we only need to have more patience in this cycle. That's why as much as we talk about supercycle, we might not see that happened as we all know that the catalyst is still the halving.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: UNIVERSE on April 26, 2025, 11:04:55 PM
Still many months ahead of us to make a new ATH, and as far as historical logs goes, usually in a bull run year, it is during the last quarter that we will see those tremendous increased in prices as high as 30% in a given month.

So we are still in the schedule to hit as big as what you have speculated, we only need to have more patience in this cycle. That's why as much as we talk about supercycle, we might not see that happened as we all know that the catalyst is still the halving.
Although we still have many months, but we don't know that the bullish season will last until the end of this year. If the bullish season ends, there is no way to have a new ATH anymore. Bitcoin price should start to drop gradually, it will go to the lower price again. So, we must also be careful to determine our target of taking profits.

I agree that we still have a chance and we must be more patient. Everything needs a process, including the process of hitting a new ATH. It won't be very easy as we expected.

Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: Amug123 on April 26, 2025, 11:09:42 PM

Depends on so many factors that we cannot be sure, indeed.

There are lots of actors on the market that push the investors and sentiment in different directions, but some are more bullish, some think the bear is already there (which I don't believe into).

BTC should be able to climb back where it left its ATH and push forward, because where there is a dip, there is a flow of confidence going afterward eventually.

If we take our political sentiments of Bitcoin action, we can say that Bitcoin has been trading on $80k range for long time and it's trying to manage because we are now likely in sell zone in big time frames but if we can manage between this 80k and higher, Bitcoin can be able to climb back higher or even break more all time high.

However, if we fail to hold into that price, it will be a bad signal because it will try trigger alot of sell pressure to the market and the price might want to dump even more and it's very dangerous where it's trading right now.
the current bitcoin price action is indeed very crucial.  The 80k range is a significant level, and the market ability to hold or break through this resistance, will likely determine the next direction. To me I feel the 80k level is acting like a support.and failure to hold this level  could lead to increased sell pressure .
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: doc on April 26, 2025, 11:57:39 PM
Still many months ahead of us to make a new ATH, and as far as historical logs goes, usually in a bull run year, it is during the last quarter that we will see those tremendous increased in prices as high as 30% in a given month.

So we are still in the schedule to hit as big as what you have speculated, we only need to have more patience in this cycle. That's why as much as we talk about supercycle, we might not see that happened as we all know that the catalyst is still the halving.
Although we still have many months, but we don't know that the bullish season will last until the end of this year. If the bullish season ends, there is no way to have a new ATH anymore. Bitcoin price should start to drop gradually, it will go to the lower price again. So, we must also be careful to determine our target of taking profits.

I agree that we still have a chance and we must be more patient. Everything needs a process, including the process of hitting a new ATH. It won't be very easy as we expected.
we must be careful and always monitor market movements, because we don't know when the bullish season will end. but I read many predictions saying that the bullish season will last long until the end of this year and many believe that bitcoin will reach ATH again.
but anything can happen in the crypto market.
Title: Re: Do you believe in the "supercycle" of the crypto market?
Post by: MrSpasybo on April 28, 2025, 05:42:17 PM
Although we still have many months, but we don't know that the bullish season will last until the end of this year. If the bullish season ends, there is no way to have a new ATH anymore. Bitcoin price should start to drop gradually, it will go to the lower price again. So, we must also be careful to determine our target of taking profits.

I agree that we still have a chance and we must be more patient. Everything needs a process, including the process of hitting a new ATH. It won't be very easy as we expected.
For the time being, I still believe that history will repeat itself, and we still have a significant growth wave in the remainder of 2025. And I reiterate: this is likely not part of a supercycle. It could even be wave B of a Flat correction right before a fast and strong wave C decline.

(https://www.tradingview.com/x/xriyzhLR/)

I'm also ready for trend reversal signals, especially since we can't accurately predict macroeconomic movements like the FED interest rate adjustments and the outcome of the US-China trade war. Caution is more important than the ability to predict ^^