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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #75 on: August 06, 2024, 09:56:06 PM »
People will always complain for doping usage or cheating when one athletes dominate over other athletes. Those who accuse Chinese national team for using doping in diving are just idiots. How can doping even help in this discipline? Allow them to make a better jump? Or make water if they splash disappear? That is the sport where technique matters, not strength or dexterity advantage. I doubt that doping can improve flexibility or help to get out of the pool and make another dive during training.

The thing is that all things that have to do with drugs will never be well Accepted , Doping is a very delicate subject , Sometimes it affects performance, other times it helps the athlete to have an advantage over others and that is what we want to avoid, any kind of advantage is not well seen from the point of view that it is the most legal and equal, that has been proven over the years.

The fight against drugs has to be something very Relevant in the world , and in Sports it should not be allowed, despite the fact that drugs are a determining Factor for each medication.
Vitamins I think is good but not those like steroids or other drugs that can make someone a zombie in the match as for me that is so terrible and unfair. I can read news of athletes detected using such drugs and other form of drugs and they are disqualified so maybe it is a lesson for every players to play fair in the game.

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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #75 on: August 06, 2024, 09:56:06 PM »

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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #76 on: August 07, 2024, 03:15:00 AM »
amazingly, Carlos Yulo has now won two gold medals

this is the first time the country has won two gold medals consecutively in one appearance by one athlete this is also the Philippines' 3rd gold medal of all time and it is crazy to think that this was done in gymnastics which is not a sport that is popular in the country..... well done to carlos yulo.... pride of the country, truly....

Let me congratulate Carlos Yulo in this thread as well hehe. Amazing job indeed of winning two gold medal in a span of just 24 hours. I think this will only be the gold medals for the Philippines as EJ Obiena failed to capture the gold in the long jump competition. Again, congrats to Carlos Yulo.

We still have two boxers that is at least assured of a bronze medal. Unfortunately, it's the women's boxing that has carrried us in this Olympics. But yeah, we can't deny what Yulo is for the Philippines winning 2 gold medals in a single Olympics.

Aira Villegas losses to her Turkish opponent mate and that leaves us only Petecio that have a chance for the gold in women's boxing. Bronze for Villegas is not bad at all and congrats to her for making this far in the Olympics.

Germany already defeated Greece and so they will advance and waiting for the winner between France and Canada, most likely Canada will win, in my opinion.

Another upset in Olympic basketball as France beat the favorite Canada in their do-or-die game. I did not bet on that game as i also thought that Canada would easily beat France but good thing for France that they adjusted very well on the offensive end.

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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #77 on: August 07, 2024, 06:25:17 AM »
I'm reading some complaints of harassment on some players particularly those elites from Chinese national team. Some people are even accusing them of doping because of how good they are. I'm not gonna lie, the diving competition that I've seen were like flawless (no splash).

People will always complain for doping usage or cheating when one athletes dominate over other athletes. Those who accuse Chinese national team for using doping in diving are just idiots. How can doping even help in this discipline? Allow them to make a better jump? Or make water if they splash disappear? That is the sport where technique matters, not strength or dexterity advantage. I doubt that doping can improve flexibility or help to get out of the pool and make another dive during training.

Regardless of how much techniques and concentration is required in any sport the effect doping goes beyond just giving you physical strength, technique has to do with a lot of psychological criteria and doping doesn't actually makes you stronger than you are or smarter, it only helps you think you are and gives a psychological boost even though temporary, it takes away every usual feeling and attributes that comes with competition, such as fear, anxiety and nervousness, any athlete that is able to eliminate this 3 factors with whatever means (e.g. Doping) will most likely outperform their counterparts with whom they share equal physical strength and techniques.

I'm not saying any country's athletes in the Olympics are doping or not, all I'm trying to point out is that in any kind of sport whatsoever, even those where the is a need for 100% concentration like flying an Aircraft or in shooting range is necessary, DOPING WILL ALWAYS GIVE AN ATHLETE A PSYCHOLOGICAL (performance) EDGE, hence an unfair advantage over others.

Also, just to be very clear, in sports, "doping" and "just drugs consumption" or "drugs abuse" are completely different things or terms, however they might not be completely mutually exclusive is some situations.
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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #78 on: August 08, 2024, 11:38:12 AM »
amazingly, Carlos Yulo has now won two gold medals

this is the first time the country has won two gold medals consecutively in one appearance by one athlete this is also the Philippines' 3rd gold medal of all time and it is crazy to think that this was done in gymnastics which is not a sport that is popular in the country..... well done to carlos yulo.... pride of the country, truly....

Let me congratulate Carlos Yulo in this thread as well hehe. Amazing job indeed of winning two gold medal in a span of just 24 hours. I think this will only be the gold medals for the Philippines as EJ Obiena failed to capture the gold in the long jump competition. Again, congrats to Carlos Yulo.

We still have two boxers that is at least assured of a bronze medal. Unfortunately, it's the women's boxing that has carrried us in this Olympics. But yeah, we can't deny what Yulo is for the Philippines winning 2 gold medals in a single Olympics.

Aira Villegas losses to her Turkish opponent mate and that leaves us only Petecio that have a chance for the gold in women's boxing. Bronze for Villegas is not bad at all and congrats to her for making this far in the Olympics.

Germany already defeated Greece and so they will advance and waiting for the winner between France and Canada, most likely Canada will win, in my opinion.

Another upset in Olympic basketball as France beat the favorite Canada in their do-or-die game. I did not bet on that game as i also thought that Canada would easily beat France but good thing for France that they adjusted very well on the offensive end.

And Nestie also lost her bout as well, so 2 bronzes for us. Just quite sad that the two didn't advance for the semi-finals so that they can fight for the gold medal.

As for the France vs Canada, yes, I never thought that France can pull that big upset, but good job by their choice as he didn't play that much their twin towers as Wemby shot poorly, while Gobert was just like inserted for less than 10 minutes if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #79 on: August 08, 2024, 02:11:25 PM »
I'm reading some complaints of harassment on some players particularly those elites from Chinese national team. Some people are even accusing them of doping because of how good they are. I'm not gonna lie, the diving competition that I've seen were like flawless (no splash).

People will always complain for doping usage or cheating when one athletes dominate over other athletes. Those who accuse Chinese national team for using doping in diving are just idiots. How can doping even help in this discipline? Allow them to make a better jump? Or make water if they splash disappear? That is the sport where technique matters, not strength or dexterity advantage. I doubt that doping can improve flexibility or help to get out of the pool and make another dive during training.

Regardless of how much techniques and concentration is required in any sport the effect doping goes beyond just giving you physical strength, technique has to do with a lot of psychological criteria and doping doesn't actually makes you stronger than you are or smarter, it only helps you think you are and gives a psychological boost even though temporary, it takes away every usual feeling and attributes that comes with competition, such as fear, anxiety and nervousness, any athlete that is able to eliminate this 3 factors with whatever means (e.g. Doping) will most likely outperform their counterparts with whom they share equal physical strength and techniques.

I'm not saying any country's athletes in the Olympics are doping or not, all I'm trying to point out is that in any kind of sport whatsoever, even those where the is a need for 100% concentration like flying an Aircraft or in shooting range is necessary, DOPING WILL ALWAYS GIVE AN ATHLETE A PSYCHOLOGICAL (performance) EDGE, hence an unfair advantage over others.

Also, just to be very clear, in sports, "doping" and "just drugs consumption" or "drugs abuse" are completely different things or terms, however they might not be completely mutually exclusive is some situations.

Do you really think that athletes really need that psychological boost to get rid of fear, anxiety and nervousness? This is not their first competition. Imo the have passed so many  preliminary and qualifying stages on the way to Olympic games, that they must be fully prepared to face all that stress. Team doctors can give them a basic vitamin C to trigger placebo effect and get rid of all negative psychological effects...
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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #80 on: August 08, 2024, 04:00:19 PM »
And don't forget that there will be a new set of sports being introduced in Paris 2024 Olympics, and that is break dancing:

https://olympics.com/en/paris-2024/sports/breaking

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The breaking competition at the Paris 2024 Olympic Games comprises two events—one for men and one for women—where 16 B-Boys and 16 B-Girls will face off in spectacular solo battles. Athletes will use a combination of power moves—including windmills, the 6-step, and freezes—as they adapt their style and improvise to the beat of the DJ’s tracks in a bid to secure the judges’ votes and take home the first Olympic breaking medals.

Perhaps for some OG fans of Summer Olympics we might not watch this sports as obviously, it mostly youth playing this kind of "sports" and it made it's debut in the Youth Summer Olympics. Now it's a full blow sports and as much as for us, this might not be categorically called a "sports", but it has gather some momentum already and I think it could be one of the biggest and most watch.
I just found out that break dancing is included as a sport in the Paris Olympics, am I the one who doesn't follow every Olympics comprehensively and only focuses on volleyball, basketball, badminton and football, in my opinion break dancing is not a sport in general. break dancing is more like a cheerleader dance

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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #81 on: August 08, 2024, 06:45:27 PM »
Women's volleyball disappointed me with China losing, they were the favorites...

Just nowª I have tried my luck in the France vs. Germany game, a nice @2.7 excited me with France, I don't know that feeling that France could go against the odds, but I let myself be carried away by the statistics, not even the probability (@1.48)everything says that France should stay for the bronze medal dispute.

Live broadcast just now, it is a very exciting match playing on equal terms...


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Final: France defeats Germany
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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #82 on: August 08, 2024, 09:23:25 PM »
Women's volleyball disappointed me with China losing, they were the favorites...
In women category also, D'Tigress of Nigeria bow out proudly against USA in the basketball quarter finals. I cannot say that I was disappointed by them because they achieved a historic feats by qualifying for the quarterfinals of the Olympics and I'm sure that next time when they come to this competition they most likely will record a better result than this. We have a basketball team to build forward the represent our country in the next available women basketball competition.
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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #83 on: August 09, 2024, 04:13:16 AM »
Do you really think that athletes really need that psychological boost to get rid of fear, anxiety and nervousness? This is not their first competition. Imo the have passed so many  preliminary and qualifying stages on the way to Olympic games, that they must be fully prepared to face all that stress. Team doctors can give them a basic vitamin C to trigger placebo effect and get rid of all negative psychological effects...

Yes, they do just because they've done it multiple times doesn't mean they don't get nervous or anxious during other events, Messi and Ronaldo for instance have the longest rivalry in the history of football and for every time they still step on grand stage you can tell that it doesn't make it any easier for even during their post games interviews. They all just try stay calm and take each game as it comes, but that doesn't eliminate everything that makes them humane, including fear and anxiousness. Even in the case of penalties of which they've taken probably hundreds of in training when they get to the grand stage, you still see some players and tremble when trying to place the on the penalty spot. They are just professionals and have done these things thousands of times and over again, but they are all still human, and emotion will always be a part of them.
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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #84 on: August 09, 2024, 04:18:04 PM »
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There is no doubt about that, but seeing all the problems that arise from doping, how is it possible to do it? Let's say that an athlete gets sick and needs a fairly radical medication, let's say azithromycin, penicillin, these are medications that contain high levels of drugs and that should be allowed, I also agree that vitamins should be administered, something that makes the muscles recover, in those cases the Olympic commission should not be so radical, for example what Armstrong did in cycling, he did it on purpose in all the Tour de France and competitions, where he always became champion.

With Maradona many claim that the medication was damaging him and that it did not improve his performance, I really don't know.

What is the objective of the Olympic games always? If an athlete gets sick, should he be cured with natural medicines? Branches, and all that? I am not against it, but it is not effective, it has a long-term effect. Since I was a child I have always asked myself that question... how do athletes get sick? Especially with the Rios controversy that made athletes look very bad, for supposedly having E.Coli, a very bad bacteria.

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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #85 on: August 09, 2024, 04:19:43 PM »
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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #86 on: August 09, 2024, 04:22:00 PM »
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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #87 on: August 09, 2024, 04:28:59 PM »
People will always complain for doping usage or cheating when one athletes dominate over other athletes. Those who accuse Chinese national team for using doping in diving are just idiots. How can doping even help in this discipline? Allow them to make a better jump? Or make water if they splash disappear? That is the sport where technique matters, not strength or dexterity advantage. I doubt that doping can improve flexibility or help to get out of the pool and make another dive during training.

The thing is that all things that have to do with drugs will never be well Accepted , Doping is a very delicate subject , Sometimes it affects performance, other times it helps the athlete to have an advantage over others and that is what we want to avoid, any kind of advantage is not well seen from the point of view that it is the most legal and equal, that has been proven over the years.

The fight against drugs has to be something very Relevant in the world , and in Sports it should not be allowed, despite the fact that drugs are a determining Factor for each medication.
Vitamins I think is good but not those like steroids or other drugs that can make someone a zombie in the match as for me that is so terrible and unfair. I can read news of athletes detected using such drugs and other form of drugs and they are disqualified so maybe it is a lesson for every players to play fair in the game.

Even vitamins usage should be regulated and not being taken like that because some of them might interfere with biochemical dosage from what I heard. Besides vitamins could be found in regular healthy meals rather than mostly uncontrolled pills..
This story of taking unauthorised medication to boost their body is a pure cheat. Additionally this will be harmful for their body in the long term.. Having a medal that way is a shame.
I read members talking about the psychology of players. Indeed the stress of Olympic games is very high regardless of how good the player is. Even the one that broke the world and Olympic records are alway afraid from being beaten and lose it.

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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #88 on: August 09, 2024, 06:40:05 PM »
FRANCE AGAINST SPAIN in the men's gold medal final match, and although France were the first to find the goal and score one against Spain, the Spanish team have shown high standards and are back into this game, scoring three goals in a space of ten minutes. It's going to be very difficult now for the French team to come back because the Spanish team plays so well, and even with the three-goal lead that they have already in this first half, they still look like they are going to score more goals.
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Re: Summer Olympics 2024
« Reply #89 on: August 09, 2024, 07:28:15 PM »
People will always complain for doping usage or cheating when one athletes dominate over other athletes. Those who accuse Chinese national team for using doping in diving are just idiots. How can doping even help in this discipline? Allow them to make a better jump? Or make water if they splash disappear? That is the sport where technique matters, not strength or dexterity advantage. I doubt that doping can improve flexibility or help to get out of the pool and make another dive during training.

The thing is that all things that have to do with drugs will never be well Accepted , Doping is a very delicate subject , Sometimes it affects performance, other times it helps the athlete to have an advantage over others and that is what we want to avoid, any kind of advantage is not well seen from the point of view that it is the most legal and equal, that has been proven over the years.

The fight against drugs has to be something very Relevant in the world , and in Sports it should not be allowed, despite the fact that drugs are a determining Factor for each medication.
Vitamins I think is good but not those like steroids or other drugs that can make someone a zombie in the match as for me that is so terrible and unfair. I can read news of athletes detected using such drugs and other form of drugs and they are disqualified so maybe it is a lesson for every players to play fair in the game.

Even vitamins usage should be regulated and not being taken like that because some of them might interfere with biochemical dosage from what I heard. Besides vitamins could be found in regular healthy meals rather than mostly uncontrolled pills..
This story of taking unauthorised medication to boost their body is a pure cheat. Additionally this will be harmful for their body in the long term.. Having a medal that way is a shame.
I read members talking about the psychology of players. Indeed the stress of Olympic games is very high regardless of how good the player is. Even the one that broke the world and Olympic records are alway afraid from being beaten and lose it.
True. That is why these athletes should receive full support form the government and it's people just to boost the moral of them from competing outside of the country. I think in my country we only have few golds yet and we got the amazing   double gold from the single athlete that compete in gymnastic and we are proud of it.

 

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