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Learning & News => For Beginners => Basic questions about this forum => Topic started by: erus on September 28, 2024, 05:53:18 AM
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I never thought to write this thread but age must have a limit. What if a member here dies but he has a complex case that is unknown to his friends in the real world.
For example:
- he is in the middle of a contest that looks like a candidate to be the winner and needs confirmation of attendance.
- he is doing escrow transactions with other members.
- he has debts to fellow altcoinstalks members.
- and there are still many other tasks that he has not done with his relations here.
Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Is there anyone here at altcoinstalks who has seen and experienced the story of a member who has died?
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Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
how will they be able to give ‘special treatment’ or at least consideration if they don’t know if that person died what if the family of the member doesn’t know about this forum or doesn’t know how to log in to his or her account the forum will never know that a member died it would just look like the member became inactive
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Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Is there anyone here at altcoinstalks who has seen and experienced the story of a member who has died?
You answered your question yourself, already. You just said that their activities here is unknown to those that know them in real life so if they should “pass on to glory” how will the forum member know about it?
If they should die, the only theory that forum members will use is either they are busy in real life or they decided to quit the forum and if it involves them being an escrow they’ll just assume that they ran away with the money - I don’t think they’ll get any special treatment since there’s no one to tell the community what actually happened to that member so instead they’ll get treated like any other members.
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No one knows me from the real world so if anything happens to me they won't have a clue about it so the days will pass and the account will never be coming online and that's it, we don't have to give anything special because they won't be here to see anything right?
If you know someone from here and something happened to them then you can use the reputation board to announce it and probably admin can give a dedicated badge and lock the account for hacks and anything.
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Mostly, one of his family members or friends will inform us here or close the account if they can reach him, but if s/he has a debt, it will be paid from his money or someone close to him will do so, but most often if the amount is small, many people tend to forgive the debt, especially if the account is reliable.
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That's a big what if, and we can't do anything about it unless someone from the users side (family or friends) comes here to announce that sad news. With all the affected parties when talking financial transaction e.g. for escrow, i guess that's very unfortunate and just as said, we can't do anything about it especially if the amount were sent already to the escrow account.
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In bitcointalk forum admin added special RIP notes for some OG accounts that were confirmed by other members who know them as being dead.
Most of the time this is not possible to confirm and I wouldn't worry so much about that, but it's good to protect accounts with strong passwords an log out for security purposes.
I would say that everyone who is inactive for long time should have INACTIVE note on his account, this is something we have shown with BPIP.
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The same as what happens with any other accounts of the dead owner - they get abandoned. Or auto-deleted if the user hasn't logged in after some months.
- he is in the middle of a contest that looks like a candidate to be the winner and needs confirmation of attendance.
- he is doing escrow transactions with other members.
- he has debts to fellow altcoinstalks members.
- and there are still many other tasks that he has not done with his relations here.
In the first case he is no longer part of the contest.
In the second case the amount is released from escrow depending on whether the member paid or not (to complete/cancel the transaction respectively).
In the third case the debt is wiped out (default)
Same with the fourth case, the obligations are also wiped out.
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I don't think I can make so many quotes and maybe I'll ask you guys about the answers that can still be asked back to you guys.
@Findingnemo are you serious that no friends/family know you are on this forum?
@hugeblack and @PX-Z I think I'm also too old to be on this forum and it would be better if I inform my friends, neighbors or family that I am here, and what method of information should I give them if I have joined this forum in your opinion?
@dkbit98 is there such a feature on the altcoinstalks forum? Have the Admin and Staff ever given a "RIP" note to those who have died?
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- he is in the middle of a contest that looks like a candidate to be the winner and needs confirmation of attendance.
- he is doing escrow transactions with other members.
- he has debts to fellow altcoinstalks members.
- and there are still many other tasks that he has not done with his relations here.
In the first case he is no longer part of the contest.
In the second case the amount is released from escrow depending on whether the member paid or not (to complete/cancel the transaction respectively).
In the third case the debt is wiped out (default)
Same with the fourth case, the obligations are also wiped out.
Thank you friend, you have given an answer that I think is also rational and this is what I have been waiting for from the creation of this thread.
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It is hard to confirm if truly the owner of an account is dead, i.e. what if a member takes a loan and they cannot pay back and one day someone posts from the account that they are a relative and that the owner is dead, there is no way to be sure if it is just an excuse not to pay, or if it is true.
There is no special treatment given to people who pass away on this forum, and you have to ensure that you engage in deals with trusted users, so if truly they pass away, their family or friends on the forum might pay off their debts to you.
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@dkbit98 is there such a feature on the altcoinstalks forum? Have the Admin and Staff ever given a "RIP" note to those who have died?
To do this, the death of the user would have to be confirmed by several users (we cannot confirm if a supposed family member says this from the affected account) of the forum, who knew the user in question well. That way the administrator could grant some special badge for cases like this.
In the years I've been on this forum, I've never seen any badge or text on a user's profile that says "RIP" or anything similar, and it also does not appear by default in the master badge list (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=badgeawards;sa=masterlist).
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There haven't been any case of a dead user of this forum I've come across, but on the other forum, there are several users who are late and one can easily tell by visiting their forum profile, there is a special note which says "in memorial" that is added just under their forum scores. I don't know about other users but I personally find this feature very useful, but then, before a user that is late gets such title in his or her profile, there have to be a confirmation of that user's death from multiple reliable and well trusted users on the forum.
It is not a must do, like it's not really an obligation for admin here but then, he can try to emulate same thing so that other users can easily spot profiles of users that are late.
And concerning whether or if the user was owning another forum user before death struck, it's simply what it is, there is nothing the user who was owed can do except forget about the money.
Except the family of the deceased knows about the deceased activities on this forum and decides to settle the dept/loan, this has nothing to do with admin or the management of this forum.
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I never thought to write this thread but age must have a limit. What if a member here dies but he has a complex case that is unknown to his friends in the real world.
For example:
- he is in the middle of a contest that looks like a candidate to be the winner and needs confirmation of attendance.
- he is doing escrow transactions with other members.
- he has debts to fellow altcoinstalks members.
- and there are still many other tasks that he has not done with his relations here.
Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Is there anyone here at altcoinstalks who has seen and experienced the story of a member who has died?
Imo, forum should not intervene in any contest or giveaway or escrow or whatever.
If the forum member scam someone, or dies, or whatever, the administration of the forum should at most tag the account.
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@Freemind It seems that the ticker "RIP" is more appropriate to be given to members who have passed away.
@Fivestar4everMVP or the ticker "In Memorial" is also more suitable for members who have passed away, this is a good suggestion in my opinion.
@bitmover Well, there should be a tag on the account if the member has died, such as the "RIP" and "In Memorial" signs.
But after I re-read the replies to this thread from all the members, it turns out that there are still some who keep it a secret that they joined the altcoinstalks forum to their relatives, family, friends or colleagues. This makes it difficult to confirm if there is an account owner who has died.
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It is hard to confirm if truly the owner of an account is dead, i.e. what if a member takes a loan and they cannot pay back and one day someone posts from the account that they are a relative and that the owner is dead, there is no way to be sure if it is just an excuse not to pay, or if it is true.
You have quite a nice point. In the case of a truly anonymous user on a forum like this , you won't really be able to tell if they eventually passed on or they lost all details to their login or they for one reason or the other decided to become inactive. The fact is to really be able to tell someone passed on in a forum or community like this they need to have someone who would verify that they for some reason eventually passed on.
In some cases , the user may announce his inactivity in the future due to some life threatening disease that would eventually claim their life . Anyways like others have mentioned too, a title of " In memorial " would be great especially if the person had a positive impact on the forum.
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To do this, the death of the user would have to be confirmed by several users (we cannot confirm if a supposed family member says this from the affected account) of the forum, who knew the user in question well. That way the administrator could grant some special badge for cases like this.
I agree with this, two witnesses as trusted members would be good enough.
It's going to be obvious if someone is no longer with us if he becomes inactive or if his writing style changes a lot after big period of account inactivity.
Problem is what happens in case of death of important forum members like admin or moderators that have the keys and control over forum.
Better to have some prepared solutions for cases like that.
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I doubt this forum (or forum in general) willing to put resource to properly verify the truth or have proper procedure handling account belong to the deceased. Examples you mentioned isn't directly related with this forum, where i agree with @bitmover the forum shouldn't intervene on such matter. And in case of unpaid debt, the lender only can rely on goodwill of those who receive the inheritance asset/money.
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To do this, the death of the user would have to be confirmed by several users (we cannot confirm if a supposed family member says this from the affected account) of the forum, who knew the user in question well. That way the administrator could grant some special badge for cases like this.
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Problem is what happens in case of death of important forum members like admin or moderators that have the keys and control over forum.
Better to have some prepared solutions for cases like that.
This is what I mean from the beginning of making this thread because I intend to direct this topic to the admin, staff or moderator if they die, there must be a backup or can handle the Altcoinstalks forum. And of all that there must be a trusted member to replace everything.
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Examples you mentioned isn't directly related with this forum, where i agree with @bitmover the forum shouldn't intervene on such matter.
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I agree with you for intervention problems with members but the problem is those who have good names, famous, integrity, founders of forums such as admins, staff, moderators. If the admin, staff, moderator have died, will the Altcoinstalks Forum continue to be active as usual? What about the database? How about the Altcoinstalks website payment?
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I agree with you for intervention problems with members but the problem is those who have good names, famous, integrity, founders of forums such as admins, staff, moderators. If the admin, staff, moderator have died, will the Altcoinstalks Forum continue to be active as usual? What about the database? How about the Altcoinstalks website payment?
lol
Is the admin dies, the forum will probably go offline because nobody would be paying for its costs. Nothing is free in this life...
If a moderator or staff dies or disappear, he will just be replaced for being inactive. If the account is hacked and abuse, people will notice and replace him.
No big deal imo.
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Op your thread was good it was when your asked the question if "special treatment would be given to them". No there will be no special treatment for them or those accounts. I have seen such case in the neighbour forum whereby a forum participant died and another forum user brought the news to the forum and we only gave our condolent messages. Now dead is inevitable and if such happened the account will be tag with a strike to notify the public that they account is no more.
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I agree with you for intervention problems with members but the problem is those who have good names, famous, integrity, founders of forums such as admins, staff, moderators. If the admin, staff, moderator have died, will the Altcoinstalks Forum continue to be active as usual? What about the database? How about the Altcoinstalks website payment?
lol
Is the admin dies, the forum will probably go offline because nobody would be paying for its costs. Nothing is free in this life...
Oh My God, are you serious? Are you serious that if Admin dies, the altcoinstalks forum will stop operating?
Is there another solution so that the altcoinstalks forum can continue to live even if the admin dies one day?
*I do not pray for the admin to die but this is just a possibility that will happen because everyone does not know how far the human lifespan can be achieved.
If a moderator or staff dies or disappear, he will just be replaced for being inactive. If the account is hacked and abuse, people will notice and replace him.
No big deal imo.
Okay , noted for this answer.
Btw, may I suggest to Admin that if there are members who are known to have dedication to the forum such as Staff, Moderators get a "RIP" or "In Memorial" badge if they are known to have passed away?
Because I saw in the Topic The different types of Ranks & Membergroups (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=14162.0) there is no such badge yet, and maybe given a symbol like a wilted red rose or whatever that symbolizes the member has passed away.
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I have seen such case in the neighbour forum whereby a forum participant died and another forum user brought the news to the forum and we only gave our condolent messages.
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This is altcoinstalks, and altcoinstalks is different from other forums. Here there are also many honors for those who have high dedication who continue to advance the forum. And if those who are dedicated to the forum such as Staff, Moderator, President, VP President die, then I think it would be good to be honored by giving the best and beautiful badge as a souvenir.
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I agree with you for intervention problems with members but the problem is those who have good names, famous, integrity, founders of forums such as admins, staff, moderators. If the admin, staff, moderator have died, will the Altcoinstalks Forum continue to be active as usual? What about the database? How about the Altcoinstalks website payment?
lol
Is the admin dies, the forum will probably go offline because nobody would be paying for its costs. Nothing is free in this life...
Oh My God, are you serious? Are you serious that if Admin dies, the altcoinstalks forum will stop operating?
Is there another solution so that the altcoinstalks forum can continue to live even if the admin dies one day?
It's just a speculation/possibility. It could be different if,
1. Admin already write a will which hand this forum to someone else who wish to keep it running.
2. Admin already share access to both server and domain to someone else.
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Btw, may I suggest to Admin that if there are members who are known to have dedication to the forum such as Staff, Moderators get a "RIP" or "In Memorial" badge if they are known to have passed away?
Because I saw in the Topic The different types of Ranks & Membergroups (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=14162.0) there is no such badge yet, and maybe given a symbol like a wilted red rose or whatever that symbolizes the member has passed away.
It is obligatory for all members who die to come forward and confirm it so that we can change their status on the forum.
It's just a speculation/possibility. It could be different if,
1. Admin already write a will which hand this forum to someone else who wish to keep it running.
2. Admin already share access to both server and domain to someone else.
That's all under the condition that 'someone else' lives longer than the admin
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I never thought to write this thread but age must have a limit. What if a member here dies but he has a complex case that is unknown to his friends in the real world.
For example:
- he is in the middle of a contest that looks like a candidate to be the winner and needs confirmation of attendance.
- he is doing escrow transactions with other members.
- he has debts to fellow altcoinstalks members.
- and there are still many other tasks that he has not done with his relations here.
Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Is there anyone here at altcoinstalks who has seen and experienced the story of a member who has died?
I don't know about this forum but recently on BTT a member (I doubt the name was Bitcoinergirl) shared a similar scene where some X member (X because I don't remember the name of the person in discussion here) took loan but never returned it and the member was very reputable on BTT that whenever he took the loan he returned it and he had some good reputation.
Therefore he was not given much negative trust from others but only from the person he took a loan and I think there was a neutral tag too to let others know he still owned the debt, didn't know where he went, or even was alive or not.
So the point is nothing really can be done but the account will be given scam, or other relevant tags like members of BTT gave to that member.
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If the administrator does not fulfill requirement X (send an email, answer a question...) for a certain period of time, all the necessary information about the servers and the domain will be sent to a certain person through a smart contract. It's a stupid thing that just occurred to me, but if something like that could be done, I think the problem would be solved, at least partially.
This idea probably won't be read by the admin for at least 3 years (like some of my other stupid ideas), but it's already written :o
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I never thought to write this thread but age must have a limit. What if a member here dies but he has a complex case that is unknown to his friends in the real world.
For example:
- he is in the middle of a contest that looks like a candidate to be the winner and needs confirmation of attendance.
- he is doing escrow transactions with other members.
- he has debts to fellow altcoinstalks members.
- and there are still many other tasks that he has not done with his relations here.
The best advise i could give on this is for us to live our lives as if there is not going to be another day, when we have such mentality on our subconsciousness, we are going to be more careful in whatever thing we do, we are also going to make an alternative or back on any aspect where necessary because we don't know what tomorrow might be.
Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Is there anyone here at altcoinstalks who has seen and experienced the story of a member who has died?
definitely in life people die, same applies on every platform, but some died and we don't hear about them, but if one is the type that is so committed to doing something, then people around him would be aware of anything about him, but i don't think the forum have to be responsible for any natural occurrence except he already passed the account to someone before his demise.
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Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Is there anyone here at altcoinstalks who has seen and experienced the story of a member who has died?
The way I see some managers are been active here on the forum, the few ones I know and see around here has one or two friends from their local board they look upto and communicate even outside the forum. Sometimes, when a manager has not made payment or sick, he usually reach out to one person to make announcement on behalf of him.
I think when someone that is popular here dies, there is no way nobody in this forum wouldn't get a hint. We will definitely get someone that knows about their cause of illness and death. I pray no one dies in this forum now.
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This is what I mean from the beginning of making this thread because I intend to direct this topic to the admin, staff or moderator if they die, there must be a backup or can handle the Altcoinstalks forum. And of all that there must be a trusted member to replace everything.
There is a big difference between account owner and forum owner, so question needs to be rephrased.
Regular member is not doing anything important, except maybe some of them who are helping with moderation.
Only admin can answer if he has something ready to secure the forum in case of his death.
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This is altcoinstalks, and altcoinstalks is different from other forums. Here there are also many honors for those who have high dedication who continue to advance the forum. And if those who are dedicated to the forum such as Staff, Moderator, President, VP President die, then I think it would be good to be honored by giving the best and beautiful badge as a souvenir.
And I think the aims are almost the same. The other forum is talking talking about cryptocurrency and bitcoin in particular and other cryptocurrencies but here it there is no particular cryptocurrency but all at once. But all the forums are discussing crypto so if we discuss something here can also be discussed in others. Dedicated to the forum is different from the positions you mentioned. There were members in the forum who were handling those positions and today many are not here mostly the senators. And it is better to honour them now if you wish when they are still active in the forum so they can also benefit from it and not when they are not active again. And if you tag them "RIP or
in Memorial" when they have "gone behind the rift" will not make sense.
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founders of forums such as admins, staff, moderators. If the admin, staff, moderator have died, will the Altcoinstalks Forum continue to be active as usual? What about the database? How about the Altcoinstalks website payment?
lol
Is the admin dies, the forum will probably go offline because nobody would be paying for its costs. Nothing is free in this life...
Indeed, if only 1 person takes care of everything about this forum, then that's it, it will all end if the hosting, domain, and other fees are not paid, then everything will end, it's just a matter of how long it will last, depending on the last payment deadline.
And regarding anyone here, if someone has died:
- If there is a family who understands crypto, there are 2 possibilities, they will continue the account, or they will give up by providing information and evidence regarding the owner's condition, through the account.
However, if no one knows about this, then that's it, it means it ends there and is considered inactive. Because here there is no census or anything.
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I agree with you for intervention problems with members but the problem is those who have good names, famous, integrity, founders of forums such as admins, staff, moderators. If the admin, staff, moderator have died, will the Altcoinstalks Forum continue to be active as usual? What about the database? How about the Altcoinstalks website payment?
lol
Is the admin dies, the forum will probably go offline because nobody would be paying for its costs. Nothing is free in this life...
Oh My God, are you serious? Are you serious that if Admin dies, the altcoinstalks forum will stop operating?
Is there another solution so that the altcoinstalks forum can continue to live even if the admin dies one day?
It's just a speculation/possibility. It could be different if,
1. Admin already write a will which hand this forum to someone else who wish to keep it running.
2. Admin already share access to both server and domain to someone else.
As individuals we have made plans for succession in our families and businesses, let alone the admin. Anyone who should be an admin if this kind of groups should be a smart person. Just like theymos of BTT, some people also raise a similar question there. But I'm confident he made some plans.
Also admin here has the president, the vice president, the 2nd to 5th president and more. So, they must have thought about this.
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- How can we determine or know if one of the forum members in the account here is the owner has died since we are all anonymous here? There has never been such an incident here on this platform, even on the other forum.
So I don't understand what special treatment the OP is talking about. All I know is that we can only see that it has not been active for a few months or even years, that we are not sure if the owner of the account is still alive or dead; that's the only thing we can think of.
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@ABCbits It seems that Admin has prepared for these 2 possibilities because when I gave a message in the chat room, Admin immediately responded (even though I was sent -karma, but indirectly Admin immediately saw my topic).
@examplens
It is obligatory for all members who die to come forward and confirm it so that we can change their status on the forum.
Thank you for your response, but who provides information to this forum if the account owner dies? It seems that when creating an account on the forum, you have to make a will as stated by @ABCbits to their closest relatives such as children, wife, husband or close friends.
@Freemind
If the administrator does not fulfill requirement X (send an email, answer a question...) for a certain period of time, all the necessary information about the servers and the domain will be sent to a certain person through a smart contract.
My thoughts haven't gotten there yet, can you elaborate in detail what you mean by this? Thank you.
@_act_
he already passed the account to someone before his demise.
Is this legal to be allowed on this altcoinstalks forum?
@Gurujebs
The way I see some managers are been active here on the forum, the few ones I know and see around here has one or two friends from their local board they look upto and communicate even outside the forum. Sometimes, when a manager has not made payment or sick, he usually reach out to one person to make announcement on behalf of him.
This makes sense, because as far as I know in the real world, famous people definitely have a lot of connections. In digital forums, there should be at least 1 friend who is close to them in the real world because if something urgent happens, they will definitely let you know, especially if the member is highly dedicated to altcoinstalks.
@dkbit98
Regular member is not doing anything important, except maybe some of them who are helping with moderation.
What do you mean by Moderation? And what are some examples?
@vegasus
they will continue the account
Is this legal to be allowed on this altcoinstalks forum?
@KingsDen
So, they must have thought about this.
If the statement you said is in line with the forum leaders who have high dedication, that's very good because my basic question is only the continuation of this forum if they die and a special badge/ticker for those who have died as a tribute.
@Mr. Magkaisa
So I don't understand what special treatment the OP is talking about.
Giving a badge/symbol/ticker to their account if the account owner is known to be deceased.
Please re-read my thread reply here -> https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=324672.msg1638031#msg1638031
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What do you mean by Moderation? And what are some examples?
You never heard about moderators in forum? :o
Do I really need to give silly examples and explain what they are exactly doing in forum?
And if you have any more question about death better ask admin with PM.
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@ABCbits It seems that Admin has prepared for these 2 possibilities because when I gave a message in the chat room, Admin immediately responded (even though I was sent -karma, but indirectly Admin immediately saw my topic).
Maybe it was just morbid for him to talk about what would happen if he died.
Thank you for your response, but who provides information to this forum if the account owner dies? It seems that when creating an account on the forum, you have to make a will as stated by @ABCbits to their closest relatives such as children, wife, husband or close friends.
Between the choice of leaving my account alone or having to train my wife and children about what a forum account is, how to protect it, and sign the address as proof of ownership... I choose the first option.
Why is there so much drama about ordinary accounts? They may have some value, but the probability that anyone close to me will continue to use them is zero.
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@dkbit98
And if you have any more question about death better ask admin with PM.
Thank for your answer , this will be a good recommendations for me.
@examplens
Why is there so much drama about ordinary accounts? They may have some value, but the probability that anyone close to me will continue to use them is zero.
If I choose an answer like you said, it seems like I also don't provide too much important information about the intercourse between the forum and the real world. I think I am too old now to be in the digital world. Thank you for your advice, I will note.
Btw for all, I only give advice to all forum officials (Staff , Moderator , President , VC President , etc) if there are forum officials who died given respect for tickers/symbols/badges such as past roses or whatever that members have died and have many services to the Altcounstalks Forum.
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Actually I think this is fully depend on that member and his or her family If he is really an honest person, he will make arrangements in advance, he will tell his family or friends when he is sick or what to do in his absence. And moreover some times we have to face loss and it is also a reality that we have to accept that this loss recovery is not possible.
Also, regarding accounts, I would say that forum communities are nothing like property for which the person's children or spouse will get later after death. It would be better to name the account archival if the account owner dies.
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Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Yes, their accounts might get banned to avoid misuse of those accounts by someone else or by hackers who might get access to those accounts in future. Someone who's no more may not get any special treatment other than a ban because they aren't going to come back but surely their memories and posts will remain on the forum for long term.
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Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Yes, their accounts might get banned to avoid misuse of those accounts by someone else or by hackers who might get access to those accounts in future. Someone who's no more may not get any special treatment other than a ban because they aren't going to come back but surely their memories and posts will remain on the forum for long term.
It seems the answer is fixed, yes, if a member dies then the Admin will "Banned" the member according to the Admin's answer in the chat room. This is also logical because it is to avoid misuse of the account or to avoid hacking of the account.
I also tend to ban the account if the member dies early on, because it is simple to respect him who has been active in the forum and his account must also be rested or banned.
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We don't even have a measure to know between when an account holder is inactive from when he dies, all we see being translated to us is their inactivity on the forum, except when they have someone who could come over here to report about them, if such user never handles his account to anyone before his demise, then the account should be treated as being gone for life.
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It seems the answer is fixed, yes, if a member dies then the Admin will "Banned" the member according to the Admin's answer in the chat room. This is also logical because it is to avoid misuse of the account or to avoid hacking of the account.
Yes, it's the most important step to take when an account holder dies but there's chance that after someone's death no one knows if he/she is dead or not then in that case banning of account doesn't makes sense. Sometimes a few members don't post from their accounts for years due to personal reasons.
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Therefore he was not given much negative trust from others but only from the person he took a loan and I think there was a neutral tag too to let others know he still owned the debt, didn't know where he went, or even was alive or not.
So the point is nothing really can be done but the account will be given scam, or other relevant tags like members of BTT gave to that member.
Well there have actually been a couple of cases where an account was speculated to have changed hands on bitcoin talk however for some of those cases they were given a neutral tag till some members of the forum could properly verify that the speculation of that account changing hands was just a misconception.
However for that particular case that you mentioned I really don't think it's quite likely to happen I believe of recent they are actually requesting for a signed message with the persons bitcoin address before accepting his loan request. And of course they are restricted to make use of an address that is literally like tied to that account in terms of probably campaign receiving and multiple transactions on the forum. Without these loan requests are usually discarded.
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Therefore he was not given much negative trust from others but only from the person he took a loan and I think there was a neutral tag too to let others know he still owned the debt, didn't know where he went, or even was alive or not.
So the point is nothing really can be done but the account will be given scam, or other relevant tags like members of BTT gave to that member.
Well there have actually been a couple of cases where an account was speculated to have changed hands on bitcoin talk however for some of those cases they were given a neutral tag till some members of the forum could properly verify that the speculation of that account changing hands was just a misconception.
However for that particular case that you mentioned I really don't think it's quite likely to happen I believe of recent they are actually requesting for a signed message with the persons bitcoin address before accepting his loan request. And of course they are restricted to make use of an address that is literally like tied to that account in terms of probably campaign receiving and multiple transactions on the forum. Without these loan requests are usually discarded.
Lately I came to understand that those accounts that were accused of changed hands were probably given to someone else probably because the owner was tired to post at time or he or she was busy doing other work so the write with the person who managed the account at that became different and once the forum users notice that the owner is no longer handling the account again and once the owner notice the accusation then he or she would take over the account again and signed message. That is what I thought of.
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Yes, it's the most important step to take when an account holder dies but there's chance that after someone's death no one knows if he/she is dead or not then in that case banning of account doesn't makes sense. Sometimes a few members don't post from their accounts for years due to personal reasons.
The only thing that can confirm the account owner has died is a valid report from people around them. Usually in a region, there is a separate discussion group to exchange news between members, so other users who know their friends have died will usually create a thread report on the forum and if many people report that the report is valid, then the admin can take action...
So far, we cannot detect whether the account owner has died except from reports from people around them. And to avoid false reports, there must be other members who validate it too... it would be better if there was proof.
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Well there have actually been a couple of cases where an account was speculated to have changed hands on bitcoin talk however for some of those cases they were given a neutral tag till some members of the forum could properly verify that the speculation of that account changing hands was just a misconception.
However for that particular case that you mentioned I really don't think it's quite likely to happen I believe of recent they are actually requesting for a signed message with the persons bitcoin address before accepting his loan request. And of course they are restricted to make use of an address that is literally like tied to that account in terms of probably campaign receiving and multiple transactions on the forum. Without these loan requests are usually discarded.
I think you are talking about someone else's account because AFAIK that account was not given neutral tag because it changed hands and it didn't singed a message but the account was given neutral tag from the lender as he has the right to give negative tag even but due to the respect (I think) he gave neutral tag.
But if you are talking about someone's story, then okay. I agree with you because there are many such cases but I mentioned the one I hear recently.
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So I don't understand what special treatment the OP is talking about. All I know is that we can only see that it has not been active for a few months or even years, that we are not sure if the owner of the account is still alive or dead; that's the only thing we can think of.
You are right to say that we possibly have not seen or come across any of such unfortunate incident as losing a user of this forum, but then, you are absolutely wrong to assume that such as well have not happened on the other forum.
I can give you countless number of profiles on btt that belongs to user who are now late (dead), and on most of this profiles, you see a special badge or title in the profile information, and that special title is "in memoriam", any user with that title on their btt profile shows that the user is late (dead).
And I believe that is exactly the same thing that op is suggesting the admin emulate and bring to this forum as well, as an easy way to identify profiles belonging to users that are late.
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So far, we cannot detect whether the account owner has died except from reports from people around them. And to avoid false reports, there must be other members who validate it too... it would be better if there was proof.
That thing works for those people who don't prefer privacy and who are known by their community members but the ones who prefer privacy and use VPN's and TOR, and also don't visit their local boards may die alone and no body would share any news about their death. And, yes the ones who have friends from their local area may get reported after their death.
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How can someone access your account if you die? To gain access to an account, one must know the account's password or have the account's email address. If you tell someone about it in advance, they can have access to it. But I don't think it's fair to use someone else's account. Because you can build your account's reputation while also gaining trust from other forum members, you may be trusted and trusted by others. But he will never know when you will die so if someone else logs into your account and scans it to borrow money from someone then who will take the responsibility. So I don't think that reason should be valid for someone else to use his account after death. So if you die then your account will also die from this forum from that day. Means it will become inactive forever
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Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Is there anyone here at altcoinstalks who has seen and experienced the story of a member who has died?
On every forum, a friend who knows his activity can announce it, or if anyone in the family or friends who are not aware of his activity here in this forum, the account will be inactive, and we are left speculating what happened to him until someone lets us know of his passing. I was once inactive here for many months, but my account was still intact. The admin will not do anything if the account chooses to be inactive, so I believe there is no special treatment yet unless the community is informed.
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Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Is there anyone here at altcoinstalks who has seen and experienced the story of a member who has died?
On every forum, a friend who knows his activity can announce it, or if anyone in the family or friends who are not aware of his activity here in this forum, the account will be inactive, and we are left speculating what happened to him until someone lets us know of his passing. I was once inactive here for many months, but my account was still intact. The admin will not do anything if the account chooses to be inactive, so I believe there is no special treatment yet unless the community is informed.
Op is suggesting nor asking that there should be a special treatment for the decease and I don't know the kind of treatment he is asking of. OP can tell the kind of treatment should be given to the decease. And the only thing I know that can happen is the label badge 📛 on the profile of the decease to indicate that he is no more. Most of the cases in other forums, someone from their country would made the announcement and condolence messages would be dropped by concerned members. Well Op has something to do about the special treatment.
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A user account can only be seen being dormant for not been active, there is no any means for us to verify if the user have died or not, except it was being announced by those who know him, since only one account is stipulated to one user, by virtually going in an ideal way, no one should take over the account, but are there no accounts in which have been passed from one person to another without anyone knowing.
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A user account can only be seen being dormant for not been active, there is no any means for us to verify if the user have died or not, except it was being announced by those who know him, since only one account is stipulated to one user, by virtually going in an ideal way, no one should take over the account, but are there no accounts in which have been passed from one person to another without anyone knowing.
Very true. There is no way to verify whether a non active account owner has been died or not. I never heard any social media account or forum account can determine the owner has passed away. Even we impalement AI tool, I think it won't be accurate to determine the status of the owner. We only can get the news from the close people of the dead owner. Yes, in same cases, we know it from their close people. But sure, it is not impossible there are cases that we don't know the owner has passed away because there is no one telling us in the forum.
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I don't think anyone knows when he or she is going to die and dead is unpredictable. It can comes at anytime and when someone suddenly died the account here will be redundant. And before people in the forum will know, it will take sometimes unless someone who is close to the deceased inform the forum what has happened.
And it is not really nice to use someone account and if people know that the owner of the account is no more then a special badge or tag will be place on the profile. Building account here is not hard if the person is account for one year. He will rank up to Sr. Or Hero member.
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This is not something that can be delineated much on. A user dies not know when he/she would leave the world and as such, when they’re into something that requires the family members to know or be informed about, it’s better they do it so that they don’t become hated on for doing an incomplete task that requires to be completely especially those ghat involves incentives between the two parties.
Some forum members have friends offline that are also here, for such people, it would be easier for them to send a notice here. Being anonymous is good but if you have something doing that may cause you something later or make you feel indebted, you should at least let your close ones know, even a close friend should know in order to follow up for things like this. It is not of great concern for us even when we know we won’t be there forever and don’t know when we’ll be gone forever.
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Personally no one knows about my crypto activities because i want to keep them private. So if something happens to me after i die then everything will stay that way. But if anyone knows about crypto and opens my laptop or mobile then they can use all that. You can get idea from btt that many high rank accounts are inactive. Those accounts have been inactive for a long time, maybe the owner died or left the crypto life. We avoid the subject and talk about the present, because the future is unknown.
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I have never heard that someone here in this forum died. But due to unforseen occurrence, and the believe that death is inevitable, it is possible that someone can die. Where it happens, there should be a special benefit accruing to the dependants of the account owner. So that they are not left perpetually handicapped. To make this possible, there should be a room, where next of kins can impute there information, for east accessibility.
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I have never heard that someone here in this forum died. But due to unforseen occurrence, and the believe that death is inevitable, it is possible that someone can die. Where it happens, there should be a special benefit accruing to the dependants of the account owner. So that they are not left perpetually handicapped. To make this possible, there should be a room, where next of kins can impute there information, for east accessibility.
I don't know if I understood your post correctly... Are you saying that the account owner's family members should have something similar to insurance or a pension?.
I think this is 100% impossible as it would involve identity checks and having to do KYC for willing users, which could cause problems for the admin (and the forum) by having to store sensitive information like that.
And yes, some forum user may have died (as we have seen in other forums), but that is a very personal issue for the families as well as their desire to tell someone or not.
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how will they be able to give ‘special treatment’ or at least consideration if they don’t know if that person died what if the family of the member doesn’t know about this forum or doesn’t know how to log in to his or her account the forum will never know that a member died it would just look like the member became inactive
Keeping secrets can be beneficial, especially when it comes to sensitive information like cryptocurrency accounts e.g. Altcoin and Bitcoin and so on. This helps prevent hacking and scams. However, it's essential to share this information with at least one trusted person, so they can access your account in case of an emergency or after your passing. They can also inform other relevant parties, such as forum members.
But there's a risk that the person you trust might betray you after you're gone. Thinking they're the only one with access, they might secretly take over the account and keep it for themselves, without informing your family or the forum members.
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I never thought to write this thread but age must have a limit. What if a member here dies but he has a complex case that is unknown to his friends in the real world.
For example:
- he is in the middle of a contest that looks like a candidate to be the winner and needs confirmation of attendance.
- he is doing escrow transactions with other members.
- he has debts to fellow altcoinstalks members.
- and there are still many other tasks that he has not done with his relations here.
That person will be assumed that he/she has decided not to continue with the forum, or lost his/her login details. In the point of escrow, we have seen lots of escrows and managers who has disappeared into thin air with payments of members of the forum throughout the crypto industry, so, it's no more new to crypto users.
I'll conclude that he/she has quite crypto activities.
Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Is there anyone here at altcoinstalks who has seen and experienced the story of a member who has died?
Personal identities are not made open to everyone on the forum. If for instance, they have members on the forum that knows them, that will be the only person who can alert the members or forum moderators of such diseased person from the forum.
This can also be tracked down from local threads, as every member in the forum have a local threads. But, that doesn't determine that the members in the local threads will know each other facially. To a little extent, there's still anonymity in this forum and for that, they'll be seen as people who are busy with the real life activities.
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There is an altcoinstalk telegram channel where users here in the forum was also there. I think it's easier to reply there than in the forum. So if a users telegram account doesn't answer, then we can conclude something happened to that user.
We can't say anything else but something happen.
So is a family member able to claim the account? Only the Admin can decide.
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There is an altcoinstalk telegram channel where users here in the forum was also there. I think it's easier to reply there than in the forum. So if a users telegram account doesn't answer, then we can conclude something happened to that user.
We can't say anything else but something happen.
So is a family member able to claim the account? Only the Admin can decide.
Not all forum users are in the Telegram group, I am not in that group, for example, so it doesn't seem like a valid solution.
For any member of the family unit to claim the account, KYC would have to be performed on users who might be interested, and that is something that is not going to happen, as I already said.
I think this is 100% impossible as it would involve identity checks and having to do KYC for willing users, which could cause problems for the admin (and the forum) by having to store sensitive information like that.
A possible way to do something similar, which could also be effective, would be to sign a message in the forum, something that everyone should do to secure their account a little more.
✅ Stake your Bitcoin address (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=321705.0).
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We can't say anything else but something happen.
So is a family member able to claim the account? Only the Admin can decide.
Itu tetap sulit, bahkan aset digital semacam akun forum altcoinstalks pun, belum saya masukkan dalam daftar warisan saya... dari seluruh anggota keluarga saya, yang mengerti untuk menggunakan akun forum ini hanya saya sendiri, jadi ini saya adalah pengguna pertama sekaligus pengguna terakhir terhadap akun saya (jika tidak diretas)...
anggota keluarga yang ingin melakukan klaim terhadap kepemilikan akun, seharusnya bisa membuktikan bahwa kepemilikan address yang telah di stake sebelumnya.. ya setiap pengguna forum bisa melakukan staking addres di sini
✅ Stake your Bitcoin address (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=321705.0)
This is more rational, because it protects privacy so that we do not need to do KYC such as sending our personal documents to other people.
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There is an altcoinstalk telegram channel where users here in the forum was also there. I think it's easier to reply there than in the forum. So if a users telegram account doesn't answer, then we can conclude something happened to that user.
We can't say anything else but something happen.
So is a family member able to claim the account? Only the Admin can decide.
Is such a telegram channel official? If yes, where is the link...
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Is such a telegram channel official? If yes, where is the link...
Yes, it is an official channel. You can find it in the forum index along with other links to the forum's official social networks as well.
(https://i.ibb.co/89x9cZS/altt.png) (https://ibb.co/WfzftJY)
These are the two Telegram groups available:
https://t.me/altcoinstalks
https://t.me/AltcoinsForum
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- he is in the middle of a contest that looks like a candidate to be the winner and needs confirmation of attendance.
- he is doing escrow transactions with other members.
- he has debts to fellow altcoinstalks members.
- and there are still many other tasks that he has not done with his relations here.
For most users here, there ain't a link to their real life except with close friends or relations who are also in the forum.
If the user don't have any close relative who is also in the forum, that simply means all you stated above will be forgotten totally.
Besides, there are users that forgets about their account for a long time and later comes back online to start making use of the account.
I don't think any user is able to reach out to them...
And besides, most users prefers anonymity.
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If the user don't have any close relative who is also in the forum, that simply means all you stated above will be forgotten totally.
That's the case of everyone who doesn't have any close friends here, once passed away, everything will be forgotten, no one will know you're dead until someone noticed you become afk for a while, and just like that no one knows here what actually had happened people will just assume you don't like to be here anymore.
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If the user don't have any close relative who is also in the forum, that simply means all you stated above will be forgotten totally.
That's the case of everyone who doesn't have any close friends here, once passed away, everything will be forgotten, no one will know you're dead until someone noticed you become afk for a while, and just like that no one knows here what actually had happened people will just assume you don't like to be here anymore.
I guess we need to start to be talking to each other in the telegram just knowing who. But there is a local forum where you fellow country men are also there. There is a reason to be friend with each other however the most recommended by the users in crypto is to become anonymous as well. You'd be in the middle of a predicament with this clause.
Is it possible to just hand over the account to someone else or like your son?
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Is it possible to just hand over the account to someone else or like your son?
I have a daughter but shes just a toddler so passing this account is near impossible with the age and learning she have right now. So whatever happen to me in the future for not be able to be active here will be the end for this account too 😅
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Is it possible to just hand over the account to someone else or like your son?
This is possible and nobody would know about that, but I would prefer keeping accounts personal and private.
There are some stuff you can give to your children and family members, like Bitcoin, money, house and car, but not email and forum accounts.
Problem would be bigger if I was the owner and creator of forum.
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Looking at it from another perspective, I guess it's not unreasonable to say that when our life ends, it must also end in the forum, since (theoretically) we are what we express, and after that our expression will also end.
I wouldn't worry about the admin, the AI has backups of his brain and can interpret it indefinitely... Jokes aside, we are owners of our privacy, let each person choose their own way of acting.
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Is it possible to just hand over the account to someone else or like your son?
This is possible and nobody would know about that, but I would prefer keeping accounts personal and private.
There are some stuff you can give to your children and family members, like Bitcoin, money, house and car, but not email and forum accounts.
Problem would be bigger if I was the owner and creator of forum.
People in the forum would know whether the account is bought and sold as most of the people are noticing what others are writing. So if the account reacts like a newbie, some users are quick to say account was sold but then they are often right though.
I guess if you have to give the account to your kid you just have to orient him to never a newbie in the forum.
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People in the forum would know whether the account is bought and sold as most of the people are noticing what others are writing. So if the account reacts like a newbie, some users are quick to say account was sold but then they are often right though.
This is the case only for old members, but with modern development of AI, someone could in theory generate posts based on old account history.
That would make it look like the owner is the same, and I doubt anyone would notice this for most members, except few that have very specific writing style that can't be copies and cloned easily.
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People in the forum would know whether the account is bought and sold as most of the people are noticing what others are writing. So if the account reacts like a newbie, some users are quick to say account was sold but then they are often right though.
This is the case only for old members, but with modern development of AI, someone could in theory generate posts based on old account history.
That would make it look like the owner is the same, and I doubt anyone would notice this for most members, except few that have very specific writing style that can't be copies and cloned easily.
Why inherited an account if they want to use AI to post? It doesn't make sense, and the inherited stories hasn't helped anyone. I remember a woman who inherited her dad's BTT account and was told to close it and create a new one.
People nowadays do not believe Internet stories, even if they are supported by evidence.
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People in the forum would know whether the account is bought and sold as most of the people are noticing what others are writing. So if the account reacts like a newbie, some users are quick to say account was sold but then they are often right though.
This is the case only for old members, but with modern development of AI, someone could in theory generate posts based on old account history.
That would make it look like the owner is the same, and I doubt anyone would notice this for most members, except few that have very specific writing style that can't be copies and cloned easily.
But it also takes a lot of time to learn how a person's posting habits and thoughts are on this forum.
Even though it uses the help of AI, literally the narrative and writing style cannot be fully imitated.
After all, AI is also prohibited from creating a paid post and using AI to comment is also not ethical enough without good knowledge from its users.
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But it also takes a lot of time to learn how a person's posting habits and thoughts are on this forum.
Even though it uses the help of AI, literally the narrative and writing style cannot be fully imitated.
After all, AI is also prohibited from creating a paid post and using AI to comment is also not ethical enough without good knowledge from its users.
We are in 2025 not in 1925.
It doesn't take time to ''learn'' at all, you just feed it the links with previous posts and it's done.
Don't tell me you think that AI is actually learning anything you ask it to answer... it just copies it and changes it to fit the narrative and your question.
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But it also takes a lot of time to learn how a person's posting habits and thoughts are on this forum.
Even though it uses the help of AI, literally the narrative and writing style cannot be fully imitated.
After all, AI is also prohibited from creating a paid post and using AI to comment is also not ethical enough without good knowledge from its users.
We are in 2025 not in 1925.
It doesn't take time to ''learn'' at all, you just feed it the links with previous posts and it's done.
Don't tell me you think that AI is actually learning anything you ask it to answer... it just copies it and changes it to fit the narrative and your question.
Wait! If you want AI to generate my posting style all I have to do is send what " link" ? Profile link or what link are you talking about? I might be behind all these AI stuff but there's always opportunity to learn a new thing..
I used Deepseek to generate some complex SQL code yesterday for work although I had to manually do some +/- afterwards but it did a great job for me and cut my work time by 45mins.
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Wait! If you want AI to generate my posting style all I have to do is send what " link" ? Profile link or what link are you talking about? I might be behind all these AI stuff but there's always opportunity to learn a new thing..
I used Deepseek to generate some complex SQL code yesterday for work although I had to manually do some +/- afterwards but it did a great job for me and cut my work time by 45mins.
To do what you say, I think you should only send one link, the one to your profile. Theoretically, the AI would study your profile, including all your posts, to try to copy your writing style. But I still think that you can never make a copy of the writing style 100% identical to the user's, but a very similar copy could be made. In any case, and regardless of the degree of “perfection” the copy of the writing style has, I think it makes no sense to do something like that. It wouldn't be any use, in the context of "normal" use.
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We are in 2025 not in 1925.
It doesn't take time to ''learn'' at all, you just feed it the links with previous posts and it's done.
Don't tell me you think that AI is actually learning anything you ask it to answer... it just copies it and changes it to fit the narrative and your question.
To do what you say, I think you should only send one link, the one to your profile. Theoretically, the AI would study your profile, including all your posts, to try to copy your writing style. But I still think that you can never make a copy of the writing style 100% identical to the user's, but a very similar copy could be made. In any case, and regardless of the degree of “perfection” the copy of the writing style has, I think it makes no sense to do something like that. It wouldn't be any use, in the context of "normal" use.
In fact, I tried it and asked Deepseek that he doesn't receive a link to learn how someone's writing style is done, the AI can't process the link externally, because it needs to be described, which means you have to copy all the posts to know how to know someone's writing style. But what is explained then is a general explanation related to writing style etc.
AI won't be able to replicate everything identically, there will be mismatches that can occur. AI won't be your doppelganger, it just happens in fictional movies.
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In fact, I tried it and asked Deepseek that he doesn't receive a link to learn how someone's writing style is done, the AI can't process the link externally, because it needs to be described, which means you have to copy all the posts to know how to know someone's writing style. But what is explained then is a general explanation related to writing style etc.
AI won't be able to replicate everything identically, there will be mismatches that can occur. AI won't be your doppelganger, it just happens in fictional movies.
I assumed there would be some kind of problem or limitation, which is why I said in my previous post "theoretically". I imagine that this limitation (and many others it may have) will be for legal reasons, and that it is only applicable to the majority of users. No one is going to copy all the posts from a profile one by one unless there is an automated way to do it.
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In fact, I tried it and asked Deepseek that he doesn't receive a link to learn how someone's writing style is done, the AI can't process the link externally, because it needs to be described, which means you have to copy all the posts to know how to know someone's writing style. But what is explained then is a general explanation related to writing style etc.
AI won't be able to replicate everything identically, there will be mismatches that can occur. AI won't be your doppelganger, it just happens in fictional movies.
I assumed there would be some kind of problem or limitation, which is why I said in my previous post "theoretically". I imagine that this limitation (and many others it may have) will be for legal reasons, and that it is only applicable to the majority of users. No one is going to copy all the posts from a profile one by one unless there is an automated way to do it.
It is possible that some paid versions can search external sites.
If someone is active on Twitter, (X), there is a new AI tool "Grok" that will analyze posts on the account and give observations about writing style, interests, etc... I haven't tried it in that direction, but I assume that it can probably generate certain discussions based on such an analysis.
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It is possible that some paid versions can search external sites.
If someone is active on Twitter, (X), there is a new AI tool "Grok" that will analyze posts on the account and give observations about writing style, interests, etc... I haven't tried it in that direction, but I assume that it can probably generate certain discussions based on such an analysis.
It is possible that the limitation only distinguishes between the free and premium versions, not the limitations of the AI protocol which has been designed to comply with the protocol rules that are made.
Grok is an AI Build that is designed specifically for X and of course will be maximized to analyze posts on X and find out all kinds of things about X very easily, but the limitations given will of course only be differentiated for free and premium and general limitations like AI in general.
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It is possible that some paid versions can search external sites.
If someone is active on Twitter, (X), there is a new AI tool "Grok" that will analyze posts on the account and give observations about writing style, interests, etc... I haven't tried it in that direction, but I assume that it can probably generate certain discussions based on such an analysis.
It is possible that the limitation only distinguishes between the free and premium versions, not the limitations of the AI protocol which has been designed to comply with the protocol rules that are made.
Grok is an AI Build that is designed specifically for X and of course will be maximized to analyze posts on X and find out all kinds of things about X very easily, but the limitations given will of course only be differentiated for free and premium and general limitations like AI in general.
Did you perhaps use an AI tool to rephrase what I wrote above?
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It is possible that some paid versions can search external sites.
If someone is active on Twitter, (X), there is a new AI tool "Grok" that will analyze posts on the account and give observations about writing style, interests, etc... I haven't tried it in that direction, but I assume that it can probably generate certain discussions based on such an analysis.
Exact. Possible paid versions may not have those limitations and do a full scan of a profile to adjust writing parameters, although I still doubt it can be 100% effective or accurate. I have seen what you say about Grok, and although it seems that it closely matches the user's interests, it must be taken into account that the information it offers may vary in each publication that the user makes on X/Twitter, so it may even be more complex to offer a similar style. Anyway, I guess it's a matter of time before something like this (paying and possibly free) can be done, just as entire websites can be cloned with a few clicks.
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Anything can happen to anyone without being prepared for it, though we never pray such evil calamity should struck, but we must make plan ahead in case of any uncertainties like that, once there can be proofs to what happened, then i don't think there is any more fact check in verifying on what happened to the account, once there can be someone who have taken over or if the account is going to remain inactive
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Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
For any member of the forum who dies, I don't think there will be any special treatment to be given to that person because this is a public forum where the identity of the forum members is not revealed. Every one of us is staying anonymous in the forum, not answering their real name or having their location revealed.
To think of that, there is no way to have special treatment given to someone you don't know their identity. How will the admin start with that? Cos the moment a member of this forum dies, that really ends with him or her with the forum. There's no way to reach out to them
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I wonder about same things too, esp. That what if the user is a strong contender in a contest or a manager who deceases... It's terrible to think of but could happen. I Pray it doesn't.
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- he is in the middle of a contest that looks like a candidate to be the winner and needs confirmation of attendance.
If in the middle of a contest where they are almost declared winner but just need to confirm their attendance, if attendance is missed, winning will be moved to the second runner up.
- he is doing escrow transactions with other members.
- he has debts to fellow altcoinstalks members.
Because we remain anonymous on the forum and our identities remain private, if you get involved in the transaction with someone who unfortunately loses their life during a transaction, I don't think there will be any way to recover or regain such funds, also considering that some individuals do not share access to their wallets and died unfortunately.
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For any member of the forum who dies, I don't think there will be any special treatment to be given to that person because this is a public forum where the identity of the forum members is not revealed. Every one of us is staying anonymous in the forum, not answering their real name or having their location revealed.
To think of that, there is no way to have special treatment given to someone you don't know their identity. How will the admin start with that? Cos the moment a member of this forum dies, that really ends with him or her with the forum. There's no way to reach out to them
I think @erus was referring to whether staff members who passed away received a badge in their memory or something similar, that's at least what I understand from his post. But that is something that must take years to achieve, where "groups" of users create bonds of friendship and have contact beyond the borders of the forum. This way you could know when a member died and be sure that it was. Although I'm not sure, there may be groups like this on local forums, where there is more concentrated activity of users from the same areas (some of them). I don't think it's necessary to know the real identities for something like this.
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I think @erus was referring to whether staff members who passed away received a badge in their memory or something similar, that's at least what I understand from his post. But that is something that must take years to achieve, where "groups" of users create bonds of friendship and have contact beyond the borders of the forum. This way you could know when a member died and be sure that it was. Although I'm not sure, there may be groups like this on local forums, where there is more concentrated activity of users from the same areas (some of them). I don't think it's necessary to know the real identities for something like this.
Well, I rarely care about this issue before though I am quite worried about my crypto assets on CEXs. I think that if they want, the admin can absolutely add some badge for inactive accounts for 3 years or more, for example "dormant" or "classic" ^^
For me, this is not really important, just open the profile and we can easily know that someone has not been online for many years and is no longer active on the forum. In case that person will receive a reward from some contest, the reward can be sent to their address as usual, or the admin will receive it and send a message so that the account holder can contact and receive it when returning to the forum.
I plan to hand over my account to my children so that they can continue to learn and contribute to our forum development after a few decades. I hope that by then AltcoinsTalks has really become a major force in the crypto community!
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I wonder about same things too, esp. That what if the user is a strong contender in a contest or a manager who deceases... It's terrible to think of but could happen. I Pray it doesn't.
Smme other member would get reward, but how would anyone know if thy actually deceased if nobody confirmed that information?
In most cases it is the same thing if someone simply stopped using forum account or if he died in any way...same thing could be said for Satoshi Nakamoto in bitcointalk forum.
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Smme other member would get reward, but how would anyone know if thy actually deceased if nobody confirmed that information?
In most cases it is the same thing if someone simply stopped using forum account or if he died in any way...same thing could be said for Satoshi Nakamoto in bitcointalk forum.
In most cases it is difficult to confirm information like that, that's why I said that maybe in more closed user groups (local boards with more activity) it could be possible.
We must not forget where we are, Internet, and that here the closeness that technology offers is a very distant closeness, that's why I think it's better to let things happen naturally.
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Smme other member would get reward, but how would anyone know if thy actually deceased if nobody confirmed that information?
In most cases it is the same thing if someone simply stopped using forum account or if he died in any way...same thing could be said for Satoshi Nakamoto in bitcointalk forum.
In most cases it is difficult to confirm information like that, that's why I said that maybe in more closed user groups (local boards with more activity) it could be possible.
We must not forget where we are, Internet, and that here the closeness that technology offers is a very distant closeness, that's why I think it's better to let things happen naturally.
Everyone is constantly posting new posts from their accounts. And of course, everyone's post quality writing style, post description style is different, so when the owner of an account changes, checking the post of that account will clearly understand that the account is not being used by the first owner. Although it is very difficult to find because these things are difficult to find unless a user is tracked regularly.
I don't think there is any problem with the fact that an account can change owner if someone dies and a family member can use it. But since everyone's honesty is not the same, if these things can be found out, it should be mentioned with a natural tag on that account that the account should not be used by the first owner, so if anyone does any new transaction with that account from that time, verify it again and then do it by his own risk
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Everyone is constantly posting new posts from their accounts. And of course, everyone's post quality writing style, post description style is different, so when the owner of an account changes, checking the post of that account will clearly understand that the account is not being used by the first owner. Although it is very difficult to find because these things are difficult to find unless a user is tracked regularly.
I don't think there is any problem with the fact that an account can change owner if someone dies and a family member can use it. But since everyone's honesty is not the same, if these things can be found out, it should be mentioned with a natural tag on that account that the account should not be used by the first owner, so if anyone does any new transaction with that account from that time, verify it again and then do it by his own risk
I suppose it wouldn't be difficult to put a tag on an account that is being used by someone else, but I don't think that's the problem. The problem would be whether morally (according to each person's way of thinking) another person could use our account. Personally I think it shouldn't be like this, and that forum activity for that account should end the moment that person dies. But as I say, that is just my personal opinion, and having the correct information in these cases would be complicated and delicate due to the nature of that information.
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But as I say, that is just my personal opinion, and having the correct information in these cases would be complicated and delicate due to the nature of that information.
AI is getting smarter and smarter each new day, there's possibility to train AI on someone's writing style and there's chance that in future AI might get so good in future that it might copy someone's emotions as well. And, that can be a problem to confirm whether the account owner is using the account or it's just a bot, or someone using a bot to mimic the original account owner.
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AI is getting smarter and smarter each new day, there's possibility to train AI on someone's writing style and there's chance that in future AI might get so good in future that it might copy someone's emotions as well. And, that can be a problem to confirm whether the account owner is using the account or it's just a bot, or someone using a bot to mimic the original account owner.
Yeah you actually do have a point however what are the chances of someone carrying out this exact task of training an AI to actually mimic a particular person. The only thing I see that may be an issue is being able to properly identify if the account owner passes away or not and that is because, if there is no offline link such an information may be out of reach.
Besides it may even seem suspicious if an account goes dormant for a couple of years and then comes back online too.
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AI is getting smarter and smarter each new day, there's possibility to train AI on someone's writing style and there's chance that in future AI might get so good in future that it might copy someone's emotions as well. And, that can be a problem to confirm whether the account owner is using the account or it's just a bot, or someone using a bot to mimic the original account owner.
This makes me feel scared, because I don't know if your comment comes from an advanced AI that you have used a lot of data to train :)
What you pointed out is entirely possible, however I don't understand if someone has given up on this world, why would he continue to maintain an account on a crypto forum? AI could cause his reputation to be damaged if discovered. Letting the account continue to exist in silence might be a smarter choice for a member who values self-respect.
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But as I say, that is just my personal opinion, and having the correct information in these cases would be complicated and delicate due to the nature of that information.
AI is getting smarter and smarter each new day, there's possibility to train AI on someone's writing style and there's chance that in future AI might get so good in future that it might copy someone's emotions as well. And, that can be a problem to confirm whether the account owner is using the account or it's just a bot, or someone using a bot to mimic the original account owner.
To what essence then?
How special will the user be that will enable someone to build a model to mimic his posting style and remain in the forum. To me, that is alot of work to do and this should only happen if here is a kind of company with huge salary and alot of benefits.
But for a mare discussion forum, the effort is not worth it, especially for ordinary accounts, except for admin or the president.
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To what essence then?
How special will the user be that will enable someone to build a model to mimic his posting style and remain in the forum. To me, that is alot of work to do and this should only happen if here is a kind of company with huge salary and alot of benefits.
But for a mare discussion forum, the effort is not worth it, especially for ordinary accounts, except for admin or the president.
We are at a point where the day may not be too far away when we can create an AI from another AI (I don't know if it is already possible to do that) to copy 100% of a person's way of speaking, although thinking about it coldly, I suppose that would only be possible if we are talking about neural networks, and not the AI that we know, but it is also true that the AI models known to society are not as advanced as other private models.
The admin is not human (:o), but I am, and one day I will no longer be here. Even though there are people who know about this account, they would not use it for anything.
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AI is getting smarter and smarter each new day, there's possibility to train AI on someone's writing style and there's chance that in future AI might get so good in future that it might copy someone's emotions as well. And, that can be a problem to confirm whether the account owner is using the account or it's just a bot, or someone using a bot to mimic the original account owner.
There are many improvements on AI and I can tell when an article is written by AI, I will know for sure that such article or journals is written AI. No matter how you improve something that's difficult and you want it to exist, you will have to be ready and accept whatever is given to you because I think that AI will always be AI no matter what.
I also think that the forum requires login details, if the person that dies didn't reveal his or her password with anyone, I'm not sure if they can access this forum but if trey have their details then it can be possible to invested on, that's what I can say about this topic.
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There are many improvements on AI and I can tell when an article is written by AI, I will know for sure that such article or journals is written AI. No matter how you improve something that's difficult and you want it to exist, you will have to be ready and accept whatever is given to you because I think that AI will always be AI no matter what.
Posting styles actually matter a lot and it's more like a unique feature tied to every single account. This is because the easiest way I have seen that accounts that were hacked or changed hands were noticed was mostly from a change in their posting styles and the kind of discussions they engage in.
Basically it's very possible to build an AI to mimic a person's posting style and the kind of discussions they make however the question too is who is ready to put that much effort into an account?
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There are many improvements on AI and I can tell when an article is written by AI, I will know for sure that such article or journals is written AI. No matter how you improve something that's difficult and you want it to exist, you will have to be ready and accept whatever is given to you because I think that AI will always be AI no matter what.
Posting styles actually matter a lot and it's more like a unique feature tied to every single account. This is because the easiest way I have seen that accounts that were hacked or changed hands were noticed was mostly from a change in their posting styles and the kind of discussions they engage in.
Basically it's very possible to build an AI to mimic a person's posting style and the kind of discussions they make however the question too is who is ready to put that much effort into an account?
Not worth the time and effort. If a scammer gives the same effort in building an account from the scratch rather than using AI to mimic a persons posting style, he would do better. Actually, are there any AI that can mimic a persons writing pattern? I am curious to know, I never imagined something as this before. And even if something as a mimic AI existed, it would be very expensive. Anyway, we are aware of the fact that scammers/spammer are lazy, and if tools like this are available in the market, they would certainly make sure to use that, regardless of its price for subscription.
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But as I say, that is just my personal opinion, and having the correct information in these cases would be complicated and delicate due to the nature of that information.
AI is getting smarter and smarter each new day, there's possibility to train AI on someone's writing style and there's chance that in future AI might get so good in future that it might copy someone's emotions as well. And, that can be a problem to confirm whether the account owner is using the account or it's just a bot, or someone using a bot to mimic the original account owner.
Training language model is not something that is easily done and before you have to do it, you need to check whether the account is worth it. There are just a few accounts in the forum that are worth such a stress. AI will keep developing, but as it keeps developing, humans will start learning how they operate and their effects will keep mitigating
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I am curious to know, I never imagined something as this before. And even if something as a mimic AI existed, it would be very expensive. Anyway, we are aware of the fact that scammers/spammer are lazy, and if tools like this are available in the market, they would certainly make sure to use that, regardless of its price for subscription.
Well you know I think it's quite difficult or it will be very expensive to manage however it is not actually the case. You can train almost any AI reason from as low as chat GPT to understand how a particular person reacts to certain situations and as a result build up the AI to behave in a very similar manner.
The most important thing is to constantly bombard the AI with certain keywords especially when you require answers to certain questions. It takes time though but it's very achievable.
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Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Is there anyone here at altcoinstalks who has seen and experienced the story of a member who has died?
No one plans or is aware of such unexpected events. The main thing is that no one might know if such user passes on except they have a close relation on the forum or someone they know. For the people whom he has some transactions with, they probably might loss the transactions as there will be no one to communicate to if such case might occur
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Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Is there anyone here at altcoinstalks who has seen and experienced the story of a member who has died?
No one plans or is aware of such unexpected events. The main thing is that no one might know if such user passes on except they have a close relation on the forum or someone they know. For the people whom he has some transactions with, they probably might loss the transactions as there will be no one to communicate to if such case might occur
In a forum where everyone is anonymous, it's really hard to verify whether a person really passed away or the cause of someone's disappearance. The special treatment would only be possible with certain groups of people. For example, who is a reputable and respected within this forum, someone who had countless trades countless times. And even with past transaction history, we wouldn't know someone's personal life. The only possibilities I see here is when a person voluntarily shares the the reasons. Actually we have seen things like that before in BTT, where many reputable user or his family shared the news with us, that they might not come back anymore due to terminal illness or already passed away.
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I never thought to write this thread but age must have a limit. What if a member here dies but he has a complex case that is unknown to his friends in the real world.
For example:
- he is in the middle of a contest that looks like a candidate to be the winner and needs confirmation of attendance.
- he is doing escrow transactions with other members.
- he has debts to fellow altcoinstalks members.
- and there are still many other tasks that he has not done with his relations here.
Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Is there anyone here at altcoinstalks who has seen and experienced the story of a member who has died?
The problem here is that we cannot even know if someone dies, because almost everyone one of us identity is unknown, some of us even make use of username that is not even directly related to our names and there is even the possibility of a user forgetting his passcode and coz of that he is unable to log into his or her account again. Apart from forgetting one's password there are other possibilities that can make one not to be active anymore on this platform. And death is just part of this possibility.
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But as I say, that is just my personal opinion, and having the correct information in these cases would be complicated and delicate due to the nature of that information.
AI is getting smarter and smarter each new day, there's possibility to train AI on someone's writing style and there's chance that in future AI might get so good in future that it might copy someone's emotions as well. And, that can be a problem to confirm whether the account owner is using the account or it's just a bot, or someone using a bot to mimic the original account owner.
Lol, I don't think it will ever be possible for Ai to be able to copy a persons emotion by whatever means, except the Ai will have its own chip which if implanted under the skin of an individual, the Ai could read the brain of the person and copy his or her emotion..
Infact, all of this is even too complicated to understand, I understand that Ai can mimic someone's writing style which is already a very groundbreaking breakthrough in that world of technology, but being able to copy a person emotion and respond to discussions exactly the same way the person would have is totally unbelievable to be honest.
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Is it possible to just hand over the account to someone else or like your son?
This is possible and nobody would know about that, but I would prefer keeping accounts personal and private.
There are some stuff you can give to your children and family members, like Bitcoin, money, house and car, but not email and forum accounts.
Problem would be bigger if I was the owner and creator of forum.
I think keeping one's forum account personal and private is much better, than handing it over to someone else. If it is the password or pass key to wallet addresses, trading exchange, bank account details, withdrawal pins etc can be passed on to the next of kin, but when it comes to discussion forum, no way. The actual owner of the account has created a legacy there, be the account a very active one, not active or only shows in and out. When there becomes anomalies in a particular account from it's actual activities, there could be some reactions from admin of the forum.
Imagine an account that gives supports to those who needs it, or provide some special skills that is favourable to the forum, and because the person has given away the account, we start seeing something totally different from what the account is known for. The legacy of the account will be broken. IMO.
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Is it possible to just hand over the account to someone else or like your son?
This is possible and nobody would know about that, but I would prefer keeping accounts personal and private.
There are some stuff you can give to your children and family members, like Bitcoin, money, house and car, but not email and forum accounts.
Problem would be bigger if I was the owner and creator of forum.
I think keeping one's forum account personal and private is much better, than handing it over to someone else. If it is the password or pass key to wallet addresses, trading exchange, bank account details, withdrawal pins etc can be passed on to the next of kin, but when it comes to discussion forum, no way. The actual owner of the account has created a legacy there, be the account a very active one, not active or only shows in and out. When there becomes anomalies in a particular account from it's actual activities, there could be some reactions from admin of the forum.
Imagine an account that gives supports to those who needs it, or provide some special skills that is favourable to the forum, and because the person has given away the account, we start seeing something totally different from what the account is known for. The legacy of the account will be broken. IMO.
Obviously, your comment is very prefer in this moment. So i am also agree with your best opinion. We know that every person is also use a forum account, which is there personal account. So i think that when we will die it should be remain personal. We can give our bank account, our valuable asset, house and car for our children when we will die. But our forum account is become personal, which shouldn’t share our children. We can earn huge profit and asset to our family, which will be there better future for them.