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Title: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on July 24, 2024, 11:22:38 PM
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Given the OP for the last season's thread (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=313397.0) seems inactive and there's little chance that topic will get updated for the upcoming new season, I decided to start this one, dedicated to 2024/25 season.


The first game of the new season:
Mönchengladbach Vs Leverkusen
Friday, 23rd August

Official Bundesliga website: https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga

Official Bundesliga transfer centre, Summer 2024 window: https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/official-bundesliga-transfer-centre-summer-2024-27449



Post your predictions. Do you think Leverkusen will be as dominant as in 2023/24 and will they defend the title?
Title: Re: Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread
Post by: Rruchi man on July 24, 2024, 11:31:30 PM
Do you think Leverkusen will be as dominant as in 2023/24 and will they defend the title?
Bayer Leverkusen have a good chance to improve on their performance from last season because Xabi Alonso remained with them, but Bayern Munich, if we should judge them from their pre-season game already, Vincent Kompany is already looking properly integrated into the team and ready for the new season.

Bayern Munich scored many goals (14) in their friendly game against FC Rotach-Egern and conceded one goal. This season's Bundesliga is one to look out for.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: alltalk on July 24, 2024, 11:46:35 PM
Do you think Leverkusen will be as dominant as in 2023/24 and will they defend the title?
If we consider the quality of the coach, Xabi should be the best coach in Bundesliga. This means that Bayer Leverkusen will have another good chance to dominate again Bundesliga in the new season. However, the squad of Leverkusen seems having a little change, maybe they will be stronger or weaker. It depends on how Xabi will build the new squad of Leverkusen for the new season. As far as the main players won't leave Leverkusen, I'm personally very sure that Leverkusen will dominate again Bundesliga and win the trophy of Bundesliga in a row.  :D

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on July 24, 2024, 11:58:00 PM
I'm sure the 2024/2025 Bundesliga season will be much more competitive. Not only Bayern Munich and Dortmund, but Leverkusen, Stuttgart, Leipzig, Frankfurt, they are preparing this season more competitively. Currently the transfer market has not yet ended and there is still an opportunity for clubs to change their squad layout with some of the top players they rely on and are looking forward to buying or loans. Well, at least their first match will take place in the 4th week of August and there is still a month to prepare.
The most competitive club would probably be Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen, or plus Dortmund too. This will be very interesting.

The 2 newcomer clubs that have just been promoted to the Bundesliga are St. Pauli and Holstein Kiel. Meanwhile, in the end Bochum was able to stay in the Bundesliga after beating Fortuna Düsseldorf in the play-offs. We'll see whether those clubs will survive this season and follow in Stuttgart's extraordinary footsteps last season, or whether it will end up in the relegation zone again.
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/bochum-fortuna-dusseldorf-relegation-play-off-free-highlights-live-blog-27447

Post your predictions. Do you think Leverkusen will be as dominant as in 2023/24 and will they defend the title?
This is still a bit difficult to predict, because this season, Bayern Munich's preparations will definitely be much tighter, especially because they might be confused by Leverkusen's movements last season which made them really embarrassed because their record as Bundesliga winners was taken over by Leverkusen and even They were only able to finish in 3rd place, below Stuttgart, who incidentally won the play-off from the relegation zone.

This will certainly provide very valuable learning for Bayern Munich. But on the other hand, they will also be together with the previous new coach, so I also can't imagine that it will really be overpowered again in the future. If I were to be honest, I would still remain enthusiastic and support Leverkusen, but this will not be as easy as last season, Xabi must make his squad work more solidly, effectively, significantly and stronger if he wants to retain the title. because competition will become much tougher.



Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Harkorede on July 25, 2024, 04:37:10 AM
I'm sure the 2024/2025 Bundesliga season will be much more competitive. Not only Bayern Munich and Dortmund, but Leverkusen, Stuttgart, Leipzig, Frankfurt, they are preparing this season more competitively. Currently the transfer market has not yet ended and there is still an opportunity for clubs to change their squad layout with some of the top players they rely on and are looking forward to buying or loans. Well, at least their first match will take place in the 4th week of August and there is still a month to prepare.
The most competitive club would probably be Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen, or plus Dortmund too. This will be very interesting.

It is possible that we could get another highly competitive season again, or yet another team stopping Bayern from returning to their monopolistic behavior, but then I'd rather not have my hopes up with the expectation of another non-dominating season from Bayern Munich because as far as I can tell, the club are actually making some interesting signing that returning to being the king of bundesliga.  I guess we'll see when the season starts.
Title: Re: Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread
Post by: Charles-Tim on July 25, 2024, 04:43:58 AM
Bayern Munich scored many goals (14) in their friendly game against FC Rotach-Egern and conceded one goal. This season's Bundesliga is one to look out for.
Although, I can not doubt Bayern Munich because the club is the giant in Bundesliga but the goals they scored in friendlies does not matter. Scores are more in friendlies and team do not play with their full energy unlike during season. But I can not doubt Bayern Munich but not because of their friendlies performance. The season will soon start. I hope it would be competitive like last season as Bayer Leverkusenwon the league.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on July 25, 2024, 03:11:03 PM
Let's get ready to welcome the new season. I ask a lot of questions about several teams in the Bundesliga, one of which is Bayern Munich and Liverpool.

Last season Leverkusen managed to surprise everyone and I started to ask if they would be able to maintain their form? I hope so because it will add even tighter competition.

Bayern Munich had to fail to win the title for the first time after 11 years, they could always defend it. Really looking forward to their performance next season, because they will have a new face in the coaching chair.
Title: Re: Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread
Post by: vegasus on July 25, 2024, 03:42:27 PM
Do you think Leverkusen will be as dominant as in 2023/24 and will they defend the title?
Bayer Leverkusen have a good chance to improve on their performance from last season because Xabi Alonso remained with them, but Bayern Munich, if we should judge them from their pre-season game already, Vincent Kompany is already looking properly integrated into the team and ready for the new season.
That might happen, especially if their squad doesn't experience too many changes. So, they are still solid, and Xabi just needs to improve their abilities in several lines which were indeed weaker last season compared to the other lines.

This season Leverkusen will be in the UCL too, this will be a very good and challenging challenge for Xabi to bring a club full of surprise to compete with top clubs in Europe again. And they were able to comeback with a performance that was much better than their previous UCL.
Title: Re: Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread
Post by: Harkorede on July 25, 2024, 09:24:40 PM
Do you think Leverkusen will be as dominant as in 2023/24 and will they defend the title?
Bayer Leverkusen have a good chance to improve on their performance from last season because Xabi Alonso remained with them, but Bayern Munich, if we should judge them from their pre-season game already, Vincent Kompany is already looking properly integrated into the team and ready for the new season.
That might happen, especially if their squad doesn't experience too many changes. So, they are still solid, and Xabi just needs to improve their abilities in several lines which were indeed weaker last season compared to the other lines.

This season Leverkusen will be in the UCL too, this will be a very good and challenging challenge for Xabi to bring a club full of surprise to compete with top clubs in Europe again. And they were able to comeback with a performance that was much better than their previous UCL.

I don't want to be a killjoy to be honest, but I strongly think Xabi Alonso is going to be a victim of his own success of last season, he's set the bar really so high for the team and you know what fans can be like when they've got to know what winning trophies and being dominant is all about, they are going to be just as expectant of a very close if not more than last season's heroic.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on July 25, 2024, 11:53:51 PM
I'm sure the 2024/2025 Bundesliga season will be much more competitive. Not only Bayern Munich and Dortmund, but Leverkusen, Stuttgart, Leipzig, Frankfurt, they are preparing this season more competitively.
It is possible that we could get another highly competitive season again, or yet another team stopping Bayern from returning to their monopolistic behavior, but then I'd rather not have my hopes up with the expectation of another non-dominating season from Bayern Munich because as far as I can tell, the club are actually making some interesting signing that returning to being the king of bundesliga.  I guess we'll see when the season starts.
Yes, with Leverkusen becoming the Bundesliga champion last season, it really made a new resolution in the league, Bayern Munich's dominance was broken and this is a very good progress for the Bundesliga. At least it is now more interesting to watch and observe. Moreover, we understand very well that we often think, ah, most likely Bayern Munich will win again, but now the conditions are different. Even now we are still guessing who will advance in the next top 3 race, or who will be the next Bundesliga winner. Maybe it could be Leverkusen again, or back to Bayern Munich, or maybe Dortmund, or maybe a newcomer.

Title: Re: Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread
Post by: pawel7777 on July 26, 2024, 12:07:29 AM
(...) but Bayern Munich, if we should judge them from their pre-season game already, Vincent Kompany is already looking properly integrated into the team and ready for the new season.

Bayern Munich scored many goals (14) in their friendly game against FC Rotach-Egern and conceded one goal. This season's Bundesliga is one to look out for.

Rotach-Egern is an amateur club, so it's more of a kickabout and a fun game for Bayern, just so the players don't get too rusty.
For comparison, last year both teams also played against each other and Bayern won 27-0.
All of a sudden the 14-1 doesn't look very impressive, does it  ;D

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on July 26, 2024, 01:37:33 PM

Yes, with Leverkusen becoming the Bundesliga champion last season, it really made a new resolution in the league, Bayern Munich's dominance was broken and this is a very good progress for the Bundesliga. At least it is now more interesting to watch and observe. Moreover, we understand very well that we often think, ah, most likely Bayern Munich will win again, but now the conditions are different. Even now we are still guessing who will advance in the next top 3 race, or who will be the next Bundesliga winner. Maybe it could be Leverkusen again, or back to Bayern Munich, or maybe Dortmund, or maybe a newcomer.
Usually every season we will predict Bayern Munich will be able to defend the title, because they have everything to make them able to win a title. But this season is a little different because we start talking about the tight competition that might happen.

Leverkusen is a team that changed our view on the Bundesliga this season, the success they achieved last season really changed everything. We are more curious about the course of the competition in the Bundesliga this season.
Title: Re: Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread
Post by: Harkorede on July 26, 2024, 08:24:05 PM
(...) but Bayern Munich, if we should judge them from their pre-season game already, Vincent Kompany is already looking properly integrated into the team and ready for the new season.

Bayern Munich scored many goals (14) in their friendly game against FC Rotach-Egern and conceded one goal. This season's Bundesliga is one to look out for.

Rotach-Egern is an amateur club, so it's more of a kickabout and a fun game for Bayern, just so the players don't get too rusty.
For comparison, last year both teams also played against each other and Bayern won 27-0.
All of a sudden the 14-1 doesn't look very impressive, does it  ;D



Speaking of kickabout amd preseason matches being fun games, we’ve seen the likes of Man United got beaten by an underdog team and Sevilla also lost woefully to a team from South African league, so maybe it’s Bayern Munich actually getting on the right track and building momentum for the new season.
Title: Re: Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread
Post by: Rruchi man on July 26, 2024, 08:25:26 PM
I don't want to be a killjoy to be honest, but I strongly think Xabi Alonso is going to be a victim of his own success of last season, he's set the bar really so high for the team and you know what fans can be like when they've got to know what winning trophies and being dominant is all about, they are going to be just as expectant of a very close if not more than last season's heroic.
And a problem that these supporters can have sometimes is that they become very quick to forget that the coach is someone who has led them to success and can become uneasy or insulting against him and his tactics if he fails to provide a performance better than what they did last season. Bayern will be more prepared this season, Leverkusen will not have it easily again for the second time. Dortmund is also there for the competition.
Title: Re: Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread
Post by: vegasus on July 26, 2024, 10:44:25 PM
That might happen, especially if their squad doesn't experience too many changes. So, they are still solid, and Xabi just needs to improve their abilities in several lines which were indeed weaker last season compared to the other lines.

This season Leverkusen will be in the UCL too, this will be a very good and challenging challenge for Xabi to bring a club full of surprise to compete with top clubs in Europe again. And they were able to comeback with a performance that was much better than their previous UCL.

I don't want to be a killjoy to be honest, but I strongly think Xabi Alonso is going to be a victim of his own success of last season, he's set the bar really so high for the team and you know what fans can be like when they've got to know what winning trophies and being dominant is all about, they are going to be just as expectant of a very close if not more than last season's heroic.
What you said makes sense. Of course, Leverkusen's standard of success this season will be higher and that also affects their fans. Last season, Leverkusen was almost perfect with an unbeaten record. I myself am also very aware that to maintain this title and record this season, it will be quite difficult for Xabi.

But hopefully, it will not be much different and can still be relied on for this season's performance. It's just that to maintain an unbeaten record, it might be more difficult, especially when they compete in the UCL which is known to have stronger competitors than in the UEFA Europa League last season. This will be a challenge for Xabi later on how he can manage his team to be more prepared and stronger.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on July 26, 2024, 11:45:38 PM

Yes, with Leverkusen becoming the Bundesliga champion last season, it really made a new resolution in the league, Bayern Munich's dominance was broken and this is a very good progress for the Bundesliga. At least it is now more interesting to watch and observe. Moreover, we understand very well that we often think, ah, most likely Bayern Munich will win again, but now the conditions are different. Even now we are still guessing who will advance in the next top 3 race, or who will be the next Bundesliga winner. Maybe it could be Leverkusen again, or back to Bayern Munich, or maybe Dortmund, or maybe a newcomer.
Usually every season we will predict Bayern Munich will be able to defend the title, because they have everything to make them able to win a title. But this season is a little different because we start talking about the tight competition that might happen.

Leverkusen is a team that changed our view on the Bundesliga this season, the success they achieved last season really changed everything. We are more curious about the course of the competition in the Bundesliga this season.
even it was not like a prediction anymore, but more like a "certainty that will definitely happen"   :D :D

Because Bayern Munich has been dominating for years. And finally when the record was broken, and it wasn't Dortmund who did it, but Leverkusen who was really not predicted before, it became a sensation and very interesting. Ah last season was really the best season in the Bundesliga.

if for this season, we still find it difficult to predict, it's not certain that Leverkusen will be as successful as before, but it's not certain that Bayern Munich will take over again. In essence, the competition in the Bundesliga is getting tighter and thinking that this doesn't always have to be Bayern Munich.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on July 26, 2024, 11:49:31 PM
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I've just checked the odds for the outright winner of the Bundesliga 2024/25 and not going to lie, I was quite surprised with what I see.
I expected Leverkusen to be the favourite. There's no way they'll be as dominating as in the previous season, but I still think they are more likely to win than any other team.
Maybe I'm just not a big believer of Kompany being able to make Bayern great again.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Harkorede on July 27, 2024, 06:20:20 AM
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I've just checked the odds for the outright winner of the Bundesliga 2024/25 and not going to lie, I was quite surprised with what I see.
I expected Leverkusen to be the favourite. There's no way they'll be as dominating as in the previous season, but I still think they are more likely to win than any other team.
Maybe I'm just not a big believer of Kompany being able to make Bayern great again.

I think Kompany might just be right person for the job, because he was fantastic and well experienced as a player and he also did a great job with getting Burnley promoted to premier league 2 season even though the EPL was too tough for them to survive getting relegated back immediately.

Bayern Munich's ambitions might be too demanding and big for Kompany, and he's going to be under a lot of pressure to get it right instantaneously. Teams like Bayern would want instant result to protect the status and perceived legacy of the club.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on July 27, 2024, 10:54:05 AM
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I think Kompany might just be right person for the job, because he was fantastic and well experienced as a player and he also did a great job with getting Burnley promoted to premier league 2 season even though the EPL was too tough for them to survive getting relegated back immediately.

Sure, but that's the problem - being a great player doesn't automatically transfer into being great manager.
And his success in getting Burnley promoted to the EPL was his only notable success in his managerial career. That's why the Bayern's decision to give him a chance was so surprising to many. They took a gamble with this one.

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Bayern Munich's ambitions might be too demanding and big for Kompany, and he's going to be under a lot of pressure to get it right instantaneously. Teams like Bayern would want instant result to protect the status and perceived legacy of the club.

Exactly. The pressure will be even bigger than in the past years, when Bayern had one, main rival - BvB, but often times they would win the league with a massive advantage over the runner-up. This season will be different. They now have at least 4 teams that can be a serious threat in the race for the title.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: notblox1 on July 27, 2024, 11:18:55 AM
Sure, but that's the problem - being a great player doesn't automatically transfer into being great manager.
And his success in getting Burnley promoted to the EPL was his only notable success in his managerial career. That's why the Bayern's decision to give him a chance was so surprising to many. They took a gamble with this one.
You need to have the talent to manage many players and you need to constantly learn and improve as a manager.
Most of the best players in the world never became great managers after they finished carriers as players, with few exceptions.
Franz Beckenbauer was a great player and manager but he had the talent for both.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on July 27, 2024, 11:40:48 AM
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You need to have the talent to manage many players and you need to constantly learn and improve as a manager.
Most of the best players in the world never became great managers after they finished carriers as players, with few exceptions.
Franz Beckenbauer was a great player and manager but he had the talent for both.

Yeah, and it looks like Xabi Alonso could be another one. But it's too soon to judge him only by that one, great season. He still has a long way to go.
But maybe that's what motivated Bayern - they witnessed Leverkusen taking a risk and signing up a former star player but inexperienced manager and it played out very nicely for them - so they decided to copy their move and signed up Kompany.
Or maybe they just couldn't secure anyone more established and simply had no better option.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on July 27, 2024, 01:39:15 PM
Usually every season we will predict Bayern Munich will be able to defend the title, because they have everything to make them able to win a title. But this season is a little different because we start talking about the tight competition that might happen.

Leverkusen is a team that changed our view on the Bundesliga this season, the success they achieved last season really changed everything. We are more curious about the course of the competition in the Bundesliga this season.
even it was not like a prediction anymore, but more like a "certainty that will definitely happen"   :D :D

Because Bayern Munich has been dominating for years. And finally when the record was broken, and it wasn't Dortmund who did it, but Leverkusen who was really not predicted before, it became a sensation and very interesting. Ah last season was really the best season in the Bundesliga.

if for this season, we still find it difficult to predict, it's not certain that Leverkusen will be as successful as before, but it's not certain that Bayern Munich will take over again. In essence, the competition in the Bundesliga is getting tighter and thinking that this doesn't always have to be Bayern Munich.
At first we thought that if anyone could break Bayern Munich's dominance, then Borussia Dortmund was in our minds as the team that could do it. Last season they were one step away from doing it, but unfortunately they couldn't win their last match in the Bundesliga.

Honestly at the beginning of last season I didn't think that Leverkusen would be able to do all this, but they were able to confirm themselves as the team that managed to break Bayern Munich's dominance.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Roseline492 on July 27, 2024, 04:43:31 PM
even it was not like a prediction anymore, but more like a "certainty that will definitely happen"   :D :D

Because Bayern Munich has been dominating for years. And finally when the record was broken, and it wasn't Dortmund who did it, but Leverkusen who was really not predicted before, it became a sensation and very interesting. Ah last season was really the best season in the Bundesliga.

You are right because in as much as Bayern Munich has always been the most cherished among every clubs on the Bundesliga but watching Bayern Leverkusen behaves these way against them shows that any club with consistent performance can possibly win the league any season, however I wish every Bundesliga league will be like this finished season because it was very unpredictable and nobody knows how the end will be until they saw Bayern Leverkusen lifting the trophy.

So if next season will also happen the same way it will really make sense a lot because for several Bundesliga seasons now this season was actually the best so far, though in this upcoming season I think Borussia Monchengladbach will be very active on there performance more than the way they perform on this season because they are also working seriously on there club.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Zed0X on July 27, 2024, 05:25:15 PM
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Do you think Leverkusen will be as dominant as in 2023/24 and will they defend the title?
It will be great if they could repeat their success but I think Munich would not let that happen the second time. Other teams will also pay more attention to Leverkusen and force them to work harder for a win. I hope they could do better than the small club in PL that won and fell off the following season (Leicester).
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on July 27, 2024, 06:30:19 PM
Maybe I'm just not a big believer of Kompany being able to make Bayern great again.
The new coach of Bayern Munich has a whole season to prove was wrong and although I do not believe that he can do it in the very first season I think if he will be the one to return Bayern to Glory, it is going to be a gradual process. I will not rate his coaching skills if there are no other team in the Bundesliga seriously giving him a contest, or just if they win the Bundesliga. I will give Kompany a pass mark if he can take Bayern to the Champions league finals.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on July 27, 2024, 07:08:31 PM
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I've just checked the odds for the outright winner of the Bundesliga 2024/25 and not going to lie, I was quite surprised with what I see.
I expected Leverkusen to be the favourite. There's no way they'll be as dominating as in the previous season, but I still think they are more likely to win than any other team.
Maybe I'm just not a big believer of Kompany being able to make Bayern great again.
You don't judge the consistency of a team with just one victory. Leverkusen won last season of which Bayern has being in dominance before last season and that is why you see that ilthe odds is still in favor of Bayern because they are more exposed to winning the league than any other team. I want to see how Leverkusen performance will be like next season because they should be able to keep their consistency since Xabi is still the coach.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: notblox1 on July 27, 2024, 07:32:42 PM
Yeah, and it looks like Xabi Alonso could be another one. But it's too soon to judge him only by that one, great season. He still has a long way to go.
But maybe that's what motivated Bayern - they witnessed Leverkusen taking a risk and signing up a former star player but inexperienced manager and it played out very nicely for them - so they decided to copy their move and signed up Kompany.
Or maybe they just couldn't secure anyone more established and simply had no better option.
Risk pays off sometimes.
Just look what England national team did with Southgate, they went into EURO 2024 final, and everyone criticized him before and during this tournament.
Result is what counts in the end, and Bayern cant allow some other team to win the title in Bundesliga again.
Before last season they dominated and won Bundesliga every years since season 2012/2013.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: UNIVERSE on July 27, 2024, 11:03:15 PM
Honestly at the beginning of last season I didn't think that Leverkusen would be able to do all this, but they were able to confirm themselves as the team that managed to break Bayern Munich's dominance.
Not only you, I think everyone didn't expect that Leverkusen could play very impressive in the whole season. Who knows that Leverkusen could be a very strong team, they even didn't get a single lose in Bundesliga. This never happened with Leverkusen, even Bayern Munich couldn't win Bundesliga with zero (0) defeat. However, Leverkusen couldn't win Europa league trophy, it was quite unfortunate.

For this season, it is quite difficult to predict how Leverkusen performance. I see some players moving from Leverkusen. But I heard Xabi Alonso wants to sign Arda Guler as a loan player. If Xabi Alonso successfully signs him, I think Leverkusen attacking line will be stronger.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: vegasus on July 27, 2024, 11:04:29 PM
Maybe I'm just not a big believer of Kompany being able to make Bayern great again.
The new coach of Bayern Munich has a whole season to prove was wrong and although I do not believe that he can do it in the very first season I think if he will be the one to return Bayern to Glory, it is going to be a gradual process. I will not rate his coaching skills if there are no other team in the Bundesliga seriously giving him a contest, or just if they win the Bundesliga. I will give Kompany a pass mark if he can take Bayern to the Champions league finals.
Yes, it's still not very convincing. Fortunately, Bayern Munich is a club that is basically a strong club. So, it might not be that bad for Kompany to manage the club well. At least, if his tactics are really right, then it will go well. But here, how he will live as a new coach with minimal experience, how he will gain the trust of the entire squad, and be able to make it solid, that is still questionable. So, maybe it's still fifty-fifty.

For Leverkusen, this is a new challenge for Xabi to be able to go through this season with much tougher. Although it may not be as convincing as last season, at least, he still has power in the club and he still has most of the squad in the club. At least, his ammunition to make Leverkusen great again this season is still quite good. But yes, all clubs in the Bundesliga are currently still trying to bring in top players who are their targets, in order to strengthen the team of course. As long as there is still an opportunity and also funds, it will be a good choice for them to be able to bring in several more players, who are indeed suitable and talented.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Harkorede on July 28, 2024, 02:05:29 AM
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I think Kompany might just be right person for the job, because he was fantastic and well experienced as a player and he also did a great job with getting Burnley promoted to premier league 2 season even though the EPL was too tough for them to survive getting relegated back immediately.

Sure, but that's the problem - being a great player doesn't automatically transfer into being great manager.
And his success in getting Burnley promoted to the EPL was his only notable success in his managerial career. That's why the Bayern's decision to give him a chance was so surprising to many. They took a gamble with this one.

Being a great surely wouldn't mean being a good coach, but Kompany has showed glances that he could be a great coach, but handling a club like Bayern Munich might just be too big for his career for, however, as a coach you'd gather more experience over the years in the job and you'll never be ready enough to coach a big club until you try.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on July 28, 2024, 01:27:08 PM
Honestly at the beginning of last season I didn't think that Leverkusen would be able to do all this, but they were able to confirm themselves as the team that managed to break Bayern Munich's dominance.
Not only you, I think everyone didn't expect that Leverkusen could play very impressive in the whole season. Who knows that Leverkusen could be a very strong team, they even didn't get a single lose in Bundesliga. This never happened with Leverkusen, even Bayern Munich couldn't win Bundesliga with zero (0) defeat. However, Leverkusen couldn't win Europa league trophy, it was quite unfortunate.

For this season, it is quite difficult to predict how Leverkusen performance. I see some players moving from Leverkusen. But I heard Xabi Alonso wants to sign Arda Guler as a loan player. If Xabi Alonso successfully signs him, I think Leverkusen attacking line will be stronger.
With Xabi Alonso remaining in the squad, it is expected to maintain their performance, even though some players have left, but he also put some new names into the squad that will add to their ammunition.

Xabi Alonso started very well, I hope he can maintain that. The chemistry between him and the players is also very good, so that is an asset. Because in a team, not only strategy is needed, but good chemistry will also be an important factor.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on July 28, 2024, 11:38:52 PM
even it was not like a prediction anymore, but more like a "certainty that will definitely happen"   :D :D

Because Bayern Munich has been dominating for years. And finally when the record was broken, and it wasn't Dortmund who did it, but Leverkusen who was really not predicted before, it became a sensation and very interesting. Ah last season was really the best season in the Bundesliga.
At first we thought that if anyone could break Bayern Munich's dominance, then Borussia Dortmund was in our minds as the team that could do it. Last season they were one step away from doing it, but unfortunately they couldn't win their last match in the Bundesliga.

Honestly at the beginning of last season I didn't think that Leverkusen would be able to do all this, but they were able to confirm themselves as the team that managed to break Bayern Munich's dominance.
It seems that almost everyone even thought so, surely it would be Dortmund and not think at all about Leverkusen. But as time went by, when Leverkusen became undefeated until the 10th match, it began to explain, this club is special and should be watched out for by Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich may not have intended to underestimate Leverkusen's achievements at first, but there were indeed several matches where Bayern Munich missed the point, did not compete optimally, so that the first position was in Leverkusen. Maybe Bayern Munich thought that soon Leverkusen would lose and they would take the first position again. But that did not happen.

in fact, Bayern Munich was the one who lost again, while Leverkusen? they survived until the end of the match, undefeated. This is what Bayern Munich did not expect either, so this season they will definitely not waste this opportunity again, they are increasingly aware that their competitors are not only Dortmund, but there is actually something more worrying even though secretly, not only Leverkusen, but also Stuttgart.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Roseline492 on July 29, 2024, 11:07:00 PM
being a great player doesn't automatically transfer into being great manager.
And his success in getting Burnley promoted to the EPL was his only notable success in his managerial career. That's why the Bayern's decision to give him a chance was so surprising to many. They took a gamble with this one.

Of course you are right because that's what most people normally believe that the moment an experience player retired and venture into coaching they would automatically become a good coach, actually one thing they need to understand is that coaching and playing is a two different things because coaching requires so many skills and critical thinking.

However there are people who has natural talent on both playing and coaching that is why we have some players who retired and currently coaching very well, though one of the things I realized about coaching is that it has process and there is no way a player will just jump into coaching without going through process which is learning because it was through learning Arteta was able to become one of the best coach in the world today.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on July 30, 2024, 05:56:58 PM
in fact, Bayern Munich was the one who lost again, while Leverkusen? they survived until the end of the match, undefeated. This is what Bayern Munich did not expect either, so this season they will definitely not waste this opportunity again, they are increasingly aware that their competitors are not only Dortmund, but there is actually something more worrying even though secretly, not only Leverkusen, but also Stuttgart.
Stuttgart were one of the teams that were not in the reckoning to compete at the top, but they proved that they can be there too, and even if Leverkusen were not there, they would be the champions.

Actually, this is what we want to see, where the competition becomes more competitive because there are several teams that are ready and able to compete. I hope the same thing will happen next season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on July 30, 2024, 08:41:37 PM
Stuttgart were one of the teams that were not in the reckoning to compete at the top, but they proved that they can be there too, and even if Leverkusen were not there, they would be the champions.

Actually, this is what we want to see, where the competition becomes more competitive because there are several teams that are ready and able to compete. I hope the same thing will happen next season.

Exactly. Bayern's success in winning the Bundesliga in a row for the last 11 years has made the Bundesliga less interesting.
The competition only occurs for second place in the standings, it is different compared to La Liga or the Premier League.
But the final standings of the 2023/2024 season have made the Bundesliga interesting again, fantastic performances from Leverkusen and Stuttgart have increased the enthusiasm of fans to watch the Bundesliga.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on July 30, 2024, 11:39:52 PM
Exactly. Bayern's success in winning the Bundesliga in a row for the last 11 years has made the Bundesliga less interesting.
The competition only occurs for second place in the standings, it is different compared to La Liga or the Premier League.
But the final standings of the 2023/2024 season have made the Bundesliga interesting again, fantastic performances from Leverkusen and Stuttgart have increased the enthusiasm of fans to watch the Bundesliga.
Bayer Leverkusen's unbeaten run last season was a record that added them to the league of Invincibles, with Arsenal, Ajax, AC Milan, Juventus, and Celtic having achieved that feat.

This season, I do not think they can do it again.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on July 31, 2024, 08:53:00 AM
Stuttgart were one of the teams that were not in the reckoning to compete at the top, but they proved that they can be there too, and even if Leverkusen were not there, they would be the champions.

Actually, this is what we want to see, where the competition becomes more competitive because there are several teams that are ready and able to compete. I hope the same thing will happen next season.

Exactly. Bayern's success in winning the Bundesliga in a row for the last 11 years has made the Bundesliga less interesting.
The competition only occurs for second place in the standings, it is different compared to La Liga or the Premier League.
But the final standings of the 2023/2024 season have made the Bundesliga interesting again, fantastic performances from Leverkusen and Stuttgart have increased the enthusiasm of fans to watch the Bundesliga.
It is very important to note that when a team is serious about pursuing achievements and then they work hard to make it happen then it can happen and is very likely to happen. Luck is another thing that I think also adds to what happened last season.

Let's look at Borussia Dortmund, as a team they deserve to be champions if only they can be serious about pursuing it. But unfortunately they are more concerned with other things, namely business, so they cannot shift Bayern Munich's dominance.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on July 31, 2024, 01:42:10 PM
Exactly. Bayern's success in winning the Bundesliga in a row for the last 11 years has made the Bundesliga less interesting.
The competition only occurs for second place in the standings, it is different compared to La Liga or the Premier League.
But the final standings of the 2023/2024 season have made the Bundesliga interesting again, fantastic performances from Leverkusen and Stuttgart have increased the enthusiasm of fans to watch the Bundesliga.
Bayer Leverkusen's unbeaten run last season was a record that added them to the league of Invincibles, with Arsenal, Ajax, AC Milan, Juventus, and Celtic having achieved that feat.

This season, I do not think they can do it again.

Breaking records would be a satisfying result for any club but it is not the main goal, winning the title is the main goal.
However, knowing the final result of the competition when competition is still ongoing makes it no longer interesting, that is what happened in the Bundesliga in the last 10 years before Xabi appeared in Leverkusen.
Bayern's dominance is only good for the club but not for the Bundesliga as a whole, people are more interested in watching the Premier League or La Liga because of the tight competition between
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on July 31, 2024, 08:47:50 PM
Exactly. Bayern's success in winning the Bundesliga in a row for the last 11 years has made the Bundesliga less interesting.
The competition only occurs for second place in the standings, it is different compared to La Liga or the Premier League.
But the final standings of the 2023/2024 season have made the Bundesliga interesting again, fantastic performances from Leverkusen and Stuttgart have increased the enthusiasm of fans to watch the Bundesliga.
Bayer Leverkusen's unbeaten run last season was a record that added them to the league of Invincibles, with Arsenal, Ajax, AC Milan, Juventus, and Celtic having achieved that feat.

This season, I do not think they can do it again.

Breaking records would be a satisfying result for any club but it is not the main goal, winning the title is the main goal.
However, knowing the final result of the competition when competition is still ongoing makes it no longer interesting, that is what happened in the Bundesliga in the last 10 years before Xabi appeared in Leverkusen.
Bayern's dominance is only good for the club but not for the Bundesliga as a whole, people are more interested in watching the Premier League or La Liga because of the tight competition between
Nobody will want to keep watching a league that from the beginning, you already know who will win the league. It makes it look very easy to predict and not competitive but I think that Era is fading away and that was why Leverkusen was able to change that last season so let's see what happens next season if Bayern will be able to win back the league again. Personally, I think that EPL is becoming more of one club dominating the league and if other clubs did not wake up, EPL might become boring like Bundesliga was.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: alltalk on July 31, 2024, 10:56:54 PM
With Xabi Alonso remaining in the squad, it is expected to maintain their performance, even though some players have left, but he also put some new names into the squad that will add to their ammunition.

Xabi Alonso started very well, I hope he can maintain that. The chemistry between him and the players is also very good, so that is an asset. Because in a team, not only strategy is needed, but good chemistry will also be an important factor.
Of course, we expect Xabi Alonso can maintain the performance of Leverkusen. Even if it will be very difficult to repeat the success in the previous season, Leverkusen should try to win Bundesliga again. I'm not sure if Leverkusen can be unbeaten again, but I want to see Leverkusen be the champion again. This will make Bundesliga be more interesting because Bayern Munich will be motivated to try harder to beat Leverkusen in the next seasons.

What Xabi Alonso started? I think he didn't start anything now, the season isn't started yet.
Let's see what Xabi Alonso to do in the pre season match against Arsenal, I think it will be an interesting match although Xabi Alonso may not be very serious in a friendly match.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on July 31, 2024, 11:12:45 PM
in fact, Bayern Munich was the one who lost again, while Leverkusen? they survived until the end of the match, undefeated. This is what Bayern Munich did not expect either, so this season they will definitely not waste this opportunity again, they are increasingly aware that their competitors are not only Dortmund, but there is actually something more worrying even though secretly, not only Leverkusen, but also Stuttgart.
Stuttgart were one of the teams that were not in the reckoning to compete at the top, but they proved that they can be there too, and even if Leverkusen were not there, they would be the champions.
Yes, Stuttgart's achievement last season as runner-up was truly an extraordinary achievement. Even in that season, they achieved several records in the club. At least that is:
- Serhou Guirassy became one of their top scorers in the Bundesliga
- The number of points they increased from last season to the 2023-2024 season was extraordinary, from only 33 points in 2022/2023 to 73 points in 2023/2024, with an increase of more than 100%, which is 40 points.
- Stuttgart's total victory was 23 wins, which is also one of their club records so far

However, for the 2024/2025 season, we don't know whether this club will still be as productive and strong or not. What is clear is that one of their mainstay players and top scorer, Serhou Guirassy, ​​has been bought by Dortmund.

https://www.beinsports.com/en-my/football/bundesliga/articles/stuttgart-set-club-record-with-victory-over-augsburg-2024-05-10
https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/record-breaking-guirassy-target-stuttgart-win-union-berlin-2023-10-21/
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on August 01, 2024, 08:11:00 AM
Stuttgart were one of the teams that were not in the reckoning to compete at the top, but they proved that they can be there too, and even if Leverkusen were not there, they would be the champions.
Yes, Stuttgart's achievement last season as runner-up was truly an extraordinary achievement. Even in that season, they achieved several records in the club. At least that is:
- Serhou Guirassy became one of their top scorers in the Bundesliga
- The number of points they increased from last season to the 2023-2024 season was extraordinary, from only 33 points in 2022/2023 to 73 points in 2023/2024, with an increase of more than 100%, which is 40 points.
- Stuttgart's total victory was 23 wins, which is also one of their club records so far

However, for the 2024/2025 season, we don't know whether this club will still be as productive and strong or not. What is clear is that one of their mainstay players and top scorer, Serhou Guirassy, ​​has been bought by Dortmund.

https://www.beinsports.com/en-my/football/bundesliga/articles/stuttgart-set-club-record-with-victory-over-augsburg-2024-05-10
https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/record-breaking-guirassy-target-stuttgart-win-union-berlin-2023-10-21/
Well, indeed the statistics that Stuttgart can record are very good so that they managed to become runners-up and this is an achievement that they rarely get or even this is the first time they have managed to be in this position.

If they can maintain their performance last season and return to put pressure on the Bundesliga, it will be a very good thing. Because usually teams like them actually decline drastically after they go through a very good season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Harkorede on August 01, 2024, 08:56:30 AM
With Xabi Alonso remaining in the squad, it is expected to maintain their performance, even though some players have left, but he also put some new names into the squad that will add to their ammunition.

Xabi Alonso started very well, I hope he can maintain that. The chemistry between him and the players is also very good, so that is an asset. Because in a team, not only strategy is needed, but good chemistry will also be an important factor.
Of course, we expect Xabi Alonso can maintain the performance of Leverkusen. Even if it will be very difficult to repeat the success in the previous season, Leverkusen should try to win Bundesliga again. I'm not sure if Leverkusen can be unbeaten again, but I want to see Leverkusen be the champion again. This will make Bundesliga be more interesting because Bayern Munich will be motivated to try harder to beat Leverkusen in the next seasons.

What Xabi Alonso started? I think he didn't start anything now, the season isn't started yet.
Let's see what Xabi Alonso to do in the pre season match against Arsenal, I think it will be an interesting match although Xabi Alonso may not be very serious in a friendly match.

Last season's success by Bayer Leverkusen will cast a very great shadow on whatever they do or achieve this coming season, except they're able to replicate the league doubles again, they were close to getting the treble, If not for Lookman Ademola and Atalanta that deprived them of that chance, with the level of expectation and pressure that will be exerted on Leverkusen, I don't even think they'd finish in the top 4. However, I'm hoping that I'll be proved wrong by the team.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 01, 2024, 10:32:02 AM
Of course, we expect Xabi Alonso can maintain the performance of Leverkusen. Even if it will be very difficult to repeat the success in the previous season, Leverkusen should try to win Bundesliga again. I'm not sure if Leverkusen can be unbeaten again, but I want to see Leverkusen be the champion again. This will make Bundesliga be more interesting because Bayern Munich will be motivated to try harder to beat Leverkusen in the next seasons.

I think there's a zero chance they will win the league in the same, dominating fashion as they did last season, but even if they end up with 20 points less than in 2023/24, it could still be enough to defend the title. i.e. in 2022/23 Bayern won the league with only 71 points.
I wonder how Leverkusen will perform in the Champions League and whether that will be their priority.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: bounceback on August 01, 2024, 11:28:51 AM
Yes, Stuttgart's achievement last season as runner-up was truly an extraordinary achievement. Even in that season, they achieved several records in the club. At least that is:
- Serhou Guirassy became one of their top scorers in the Bundesliga
- The number of points they increased from last season to the 2023-2024 season was extraordinary, from only 33 points in 2022/2023 to 73 points in 2023/2024, with an increase of more than 100%, which is 40 points.
- Stuttgart's total victory was 23 wins, which is also one of their club records so far

However, for the 2024/2025 season, we don't know whether this club will still be as productive and strong or not. What is clear is that one of their mainstay players and top scorer, Serhou Guirassy, ​​has been bought by Dortmund.

https://www.beinsports.com/en-my/football/bundesliga/articles/stuttgart-set-club-record-with-victory-over-augsburg-2024-05-10
https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/record-breaking-guirassy-target-stuttgart-win-union-berlin-2023-10-21/
Unbelievable with VfB Stuttgart achievement in this season success moving down Bayern Munich to third standings position and the first time Stuttgart success finish as 2nd place. But last season I doubt they can repeat their success achievement after selling their top scorer Serhou Guirassy to Dortmund and huge pressure will play in Champion League but have consistent playing in domestic league.
Current activities transfer, VfB Stuttgart not sign any top players right now and its bad prepare team because they will play in Champion League and must defend the top fourth standings in domestic league.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 01, 2024, 12:01:43 PM
Unbelievable with VfB Stuttgart achievement in this season success moving down Bayern Munich to third standings position and the first time Stuttgart success finish as 2nd place. (...)

It's not the first time they achieved 2nd place in the league, in fact, they reached for the championship 5 times in the past and ended up as runner-up also on 5 occasions.
But yeah, they're not very consistent in their performances between the seasons. In 2022/23, they finished in 16th place and were lucky to avoid relegation, in the season before, they were 15th, so last year's 2nd place is really something unusual and it will be a real challenge to end up at the top this season.
They haven't finished in the top 3 for 2 seasons in a row since the early 80s.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Harkorede on August 01, 2024, 10:57:38 PM
Yes, Stuttgart's achievement last season as runner-up was truly an extraordinary achievement. Even in that season, they achieved several records in the club. At least that is:
- Serhou Guirassy became one of their top scorers in the Bundesliga
- The number of points they increased from last season to the 2023-2024 season was extraordinary, from only 33 points in 2022/2023 to 73 points in 2023/2024, with an increase of more than 100%, which is 40 points.
- Stuttgart's total victory was 23 wins, which is also one of their club records so far

However, for the 2024/2025 season, we don't know whether this club will still be as productive and strong or not. What is clear is that one of their mainstay players and top scorer, Serhou Guirassy, ​​has been bought by Dortmund.

https://www.beinsports.com/en-my/football/bundesliga/articles/stuttgart-set-club-record-with-victory-over-augsburg-2024-05-10
https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/record-breaking-guirassy-target-stuttgart-win-union-berlin-2023-10-21/
Unbelievable with VfB Stuttgart achievement in this season success moving down Bayern Munich to third standings position and the first time Stuttgart success finish as 2nd place. But last season I doubt they can repeat their success achievement after selling their top scorer Serhou Guirassy to Dortmund and huge pressure will play in Champion League but have consistent playing in domestic league.
Current activities transfer, VfB Stuttgart not sign any top players right now and its bad prepare team because they will play in Champion League and must defend the top fourth standings in domestic league.

It's very funny and sad at the same time that most of us didn't even take not of Stuttgart achievement as well last, there were considered a relegation bound candidate before the season began, if I'm not mistaken, but their achievement was completely overshadowed by Bayer Leverkusen being the talk of the season, and I even completely forgot that they finished 2nd place, or never paid any attention to it at all.

My big question is; I know Bayer Leverkusen was head above heels better than other teams in the league last season, but was it that both Stuttgart and Bayer Leverkusen were really that good, or it was just Bayer Munich that were really awful ??, although both statements can be true and co-exist.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: vegasus on August 01, 2024, 11:21:01 PM
It's very funny and sad at the same time that most of us didn't even take not of Stuttgart achievement as well last, there were considered a relegation bound candidate before the season began, if I'm not mistaken, but their achievement was completely overshadowed by Bayer Leverkusen being the talk of the season, and I even completely forgot that they finished 2nd place, or never paid any attention to it at all.
Yes, that's right. They are indeed in the bottom 3 zones, in the relegation zone with Schalke and Hertha. But fortunately, they managed to win during the play-off and finally were able to re-enter the Bundesliga. And it's true, in fact, in terms of their achievements, Stuttgart's point achievement level broke the record. And their performance is truly extraordinary. But yes, this club is still not too striking because it is covered by Leverkusen's achievements which are also extraordinary. But on the other hand, imagine, a relegation club then finally managed to surpass Bayern Leverkusen by making them runner-up, 1 level above Bayern Leverkusen. This is also a truly extraordinary achievement.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Harkorede on August 02, 2024, 03:53:15 AM
It's very funny and sad at the same time that most of us didn't even take not of Stuttgart achievement as well last, there were considered a relegation bound candidate before the season began, if I'm not mistaken, but their achievement was completely overshadowed by Bayer Leverkusen being the talk of the season, and I even completely forgot that they finished 2nd place, or never paid any attention to it at all.
Yes, that's right. They are indeed in the bottom 3 zones, in the relegation zone with Schalke and Hertha. But fortunately, they managed to win during the play-off and finally were able to re-enter the Bundesliga. And it's true, in fact, in terms of their achievements, Stuttgart's point achievement level broke the record. And their performance is truly extraordinary. But yes, this club is still not too striking because it is covered by Leverkusen's achievements which are also extraordinary. But on the other hand, imagine, a relegation club then finally managed to surpass Bayern Leverkusen by making them runner-up, 1 level above Bayern Leverkusen. This is also a truly extraordinary achievement.

That means we'll be witnessing a non so typical teams representing the Bundesliga in the champions league, while that would be detrimental for the league, it would also mean a bit stronger teams would be representing them in the likes of the Europa league, and Europa Conference League.

It's going to be a bit strange for the German teams in the champions league this season, I'd say.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on August 02, 2024, 08:26:05 AM

Last season's success by Bayer Leverkusen will cast a very great shadow on whatever they do or achieve this coming season, except they're able to replicate the league doubles again, they were close to getting the treble, If not for Lookman Ademola and Atalanta that deprived them of that chance, with the level of expectation and pressure that will be exerted on Leverkusen, I don't even think they'd finish in the top 4. However, I'm hoping that I'll be proved wrong by the team.
Yes, it was very unfortunate when they failed to achieve the treble winner, even though it was in front of them, but Atalanta managed to beat them and stop Leverkusen's unbeaten record last season.

They have a great chance to achieve the same achievement again as long as they can perform consistently and not decline. Because the opponents they will face will also know what their current strength is like, so it will be a new challenge.Yes, it was very unfortunate when they failed to achieve the treble winner, even though it was in front of them, but Atalanta managed to beat them and stop Leverkusen's unbeaten record last season.

They have a great chance to achieve the same achievement again as long as they can perform consistently and not decline. Because the opponents they will face will also know what their current strength is like, so it will be a new challenge.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Roseline492 on August 02, 2024, 08:45:32 AM
Exactly. Bayern's success in winning the Bundesliga in a row for the last 11 years has made the Bundesliga less interesting.
The competition only occurs for second place in the standings, it is different compared to La Liga or the Premier League.
But the final standings of the 2023/2024 season have made the Bundesliga interesting again, fantastic performances from Leverkusen and Stuttgart have increased the enthusiasm of fans to watch the Bundesliga.

You are right because the reason why Bundesliga was not that interesting seasons ago was actually because they were repeatedly winning by Bayern Munich and at the moment Bayern Leverkusen decided to take a bold step this season it gives another interesting shape for the Bundesliga because those who don't always like to watch Bundesliga matches began to develop interest.

Actually I just wish all the season will be like this finished season because of the competition, though I no that this upcoming season will be very interesting for Bundesliga but I don't know if another club will be able to take over the performance of Bayern Leverkusen Because I don't think Bayern Leverkusen will still be able to come back with there previous performance again.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 02, 2024, 10:31:08 AM
You are right because the reason why Bundesliga was not that interesting seasons ago was actually because they were repeatedly winning by Bayern Munich and at the moment Bayern Leverkusen decided to take a bold step this season it gives another interesting shape for the Bundesliga because those who don't always like to watch Bundesliga matches began to develop interest.

Having one team winning multiple times in a row is not necessarily a problem on its own. i.e. in 2022/23 Bayern indeed won, but there was a lot of drama and emotions up until the very end. They ended up with the same number of points as BvB (71) and won only by a better goal difference.
The more excitement there is, the more interesting the league becomes.
But yeah, Leverkusen winning in such a dominating way will surely make things much more interesting.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on August 02, 2024, 02:13:17 PM
Having one team winning multiple times in a row is not necessarily a problem on its own. i.e. in 2022/23 Bayern indeed won, but there was a lot of drama and emotions up until the very end. They ended up with the same number of points as BvB (71) and won only by a better goal difference.
The more excitement there is, the more interesting the league becomes.
But yeah, Leverkusen winning in such a dominating way will surely make things much more interesting.
Last two season, Bayern Munich performed not consistent yet and remember how difficult for winning Bundesliga trophy on season 2022/23 after fatal mistake from Dortmund indeed both team have the same points. Bayern on season 2022/23 need on last game week become the winner and last season their performance poor drastically by finish as third standings position.
Not sure with next season for Bayern Munich will easily get dominance back win Bundesliga trophy, many team have top qualities players from Dortmund and Bayern Leverkusen will be difficult opponent teams.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on August 02, 2024, 11:56:06 PM
- Serhou Guirassy became one of their top scorers in the Bundesliga
- The number of points they increased from last season to the 2023-2024 season was extraordinary, from only 33 points in 2022/2023 to 73 points in 2023/2024, with an increase of more than 100%, which is 40 points.
- Stuttgart's total victory was 23 wins, which is also one of their club records so far
Well, indeed the statistics that Stuttgart can record are very good so that they managed to become runners-up and this is an achievement that they rarely get or even this is the first time they have managed to be in this position.

If they can maintain their performance last season and return to put pressure on the Bundesliga, it will be a very good thing. Because usually teams like them actually decline drastically after they go through a very good season.
Exactly, this is a job that will be quite tough for VfB Stuttgart, especially for Sebastian Hoeneß to manage his squad back to their excellent performance in the 2023/2024 season. And this will be a challenge for him to bring Stuttgart to a bigger competition besides the Bundesliga, namely the UCL.

Meanwhile, on the other hand, it seems that several key players from this club have been targeted by several other big clubs. One of them that has been rumored lately is Waldemar Anton who is rumored to be targeted by Dortmund, their rivals in the Bundesliga.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on August 03, 2024, 07:37:19 AM
Well, indeed the statistics that Stuttgart can record are very good so that they managed to become runners-up and this is an achievement that they rarely get or even this is the first time they have managed to be in this position.

If they can maintain their performance last season and return to put pressure on the Bundesliga, it will be a very good thing. Because usually teams like them actually decline drastically after they go through a very good season.
Exactly, this is a job that will be quite tough for VfB Stuttgart, especially for Sebastian Hoeneß to manage his squad back to their excellent performance in the 2023/2024 season. And this will be a challenge for him to bring Stuttgart to a bigger competition besides the Bundesliga, namely the UCL.

Meanwhile, on the other hand, it seems that several key players from this club have been targeted by several other big clubs. One of them that has been rumored lately is Waldemar Anton who is rumored to be targeted by Dortmund, their rivals in the Bundesliga.
Usually maintaining will be more difficult than starting, because there will be vigilance from other teams that is different from before. Apart from that, players who performed well before will be targeted by big teams, so that is also something they have to think about.

The new season will start soon, we will see their journey next season with the target that they want to maintain their performance like last season at least. or if they are able they must improve to become even better.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on August 03, 2024, 05:02:17 PM
Exactly, this is a job that will be quite tough for VfB Stuttgart, especially for Sebastian Hoeneß to manage his squad back to their excellent performance in the 2023/2024 season. And this will be a challenge for him to bring Stuttgart to a bigger competition besides the Bundesliga, namely the UCL.

Meanwhile, on the other hand, it seems that several key players from this club have been targeted by several other big clubs. One of them that has been rumored lately is Waldemar Anton who is rumored to be targeted by Dortmund, their rivals in the Bundesliga.
Selling the top scorer team last season become difficult job for VfB Stuttgart manager Sebastian Hoeneß how to manage well for next season keep consistent his team performance in domestic league and UEFA Champion League.
After absent for longer time, VfB Stuttgart will participants in Champion League next and have improve well their performance in domestic league keep defend the top fourth standings.
Most awesome with VfB Stuttgart result last season, finish on 2nd place and get qualified to champion league will be difficult how to defend their top performance next season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on August 03, 2024, 10:53:50 PM
The new season will start soon, we will see their journey next season with the target that they want to maintain their performance like last season at least. or if they are able they must improve to become even better.
Bayern Munich are looking really good under Vincent Kompany already. I am already anticipating seeing them play in the Bundesliga next season and see how they perform in their very first few games because in the pre-season games so far, they have been very good with the attacks. Did anyone watch them play against Tottenham? they won the game, scored their first goal in the first five minutes of the game, and dominated the game. They play Tottenham again on the 10th of this month, and I still do not think They will lose that game.

Vincent Kompany is winning the fans over with these good results.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on August 04, 2024, 03:36:59 AM
Bayern Munich are looking really good under Vincent Kompany already. I am already anticipating seeing them play in the Bundesliga next season and see how they perform in their very first few games because in the pre-season games so far, they have been very good with the attacks. Did anyone watch them play against Tottenham? they won the game, scored their first goal in the first five minutes of the game, and dominated the game. They play Tottenham again on the 10th of this month, and I still do not think They will lose that game.

Vincent Kompany is winning the fans over with these good results.

Coaches, like players, can move up, regardless of the results they get.
Is the coach who once played for Hamburg SV and speaks fluent German, but whose ability was questioned at Burnley, is the answer Bayern has been waiting for? IDK, time will tell
Personally, I still doubt Kompany's ability to coach Bayern but I can't wait to see how he plays his football in the Bundesliga.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on August 04, 2024, 02:03:11 PM
The new season will start soon, we will see their journey next season with the target that they want to maintain their performance like last season at least. or if they are able they must improve to become even better.
Bayern Munich are looking really good under Vincent Kompany already. I am already anticipating seeing them play in the Bundesliga next season and see how they perform in their very first few games because in the pre-season games so far, they have been very good with the attacks. Did anyone watch them play against Tottenham? they won the game, scored their first goal in the first five minutes of the game, and dominated the game. They play Tottenham again on the 10th of this month, and I still do not think They will lose that game.

Vincent Kompany is winning the fans over with these good results.
Yes I can understand why you say Bayern Munich are doing well under Kompany, because you must have seen their pre-season games to say that. But are they really as good as you say just because they played well in pre-season?

It is important to remember that in pre-season games everything is uncertain, because teams are not usually at their best, either themselves or the teams they are facing, so for me it is still a bit of a grey area.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on August 04, 2024, 06:41:12 PM
Exactly. Bayern's success in winning the Bundesliga in a row for the last 11 years has made the Bundesliga less interesting.
The competition only occurs for second place in the standings, it is different compared to La Liga or the Premier League.
But the final standings of the 2023/2024 season have made the Bundesliga interesting again, fantastic performances from Leverkusen and Stuttgart have increased the enthusiasm of fans to watch the Bundesliga.

You are right because the reason why Bundesliga was not that interesting seasons ago was actually because they were repeatedly winning by Bayern Munich and at the moment Bayern Leverkusen decided to take a bold step this season it gives another interesting shape for the Bundesliga because those who don't always like to watch Bundesliga matches began to develop interest.

Actually I just wish all the season will be like this finished season because of the competition, though I no that this upcoming season will be very interesting for Bundesliga but I don't know if another club will be able to take over the performance of Bayern Leverkusen Because I don't think Bayern Leverkusen will still be able to come back with there previous performance again.
I am hoping to see a new club win Bundesliga next season because I know that it will be impossible for Bayern or Leverkusen to win it again. Kompany is a good new who needs to study the players and teach them his new football pattern and that might takes some time for the players to blend in with the new pattern. That alone might make Bayern not to be consistent in the beginning. Leverkusen might not be able to have their best moments next season like they did last season. I love seeing surprises because that is what makes football unpredictable.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on August 04, 2024, 10:46:12 PM
I am hoping to see a new club win Bundesliga next season because I know that it will be impossible for Bayern or Leverkusen to win it again. Kompany is a good new who needs to study the players and teach them his new football pattern and that might takes some time for the players to blend in with the new pattern. That alone might make Bayern not to be consistent in the beginning. Leverkusen might not be able to have their best moments next season like they did last season. I love seeing surprises because that is what makes football unpredictable.
I think become more competitive if next season any new team can destroy with Bayern Leverkusen and Bayern Munich dominance, in this season Leverkusen success winning with unbeaten record and break Bayern record with eleven consecutive season winning the Bundesliga. Seems interested if next season Dortmund or Leipzig as favorite team for winning Bundesliga and every season has difference team dominance the domestic league.
Indeed Leverkusen still on the top favorite team for winning bundesliga because less experience of Kompany seems difficult for him bring Bayern winning bundesliga again.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on August 04, 2024, 11:44:41 PM
Usually maintaining will be more difficult than starting, because there will be vigilance from other teams that is different from before. Apart from that, players who performed well before will be targeted by big teams, so that is also something they have to think about.
Exactly, although Stuttgart certainly still wants to be much better, but the reality may not be as good or as easy as that. Not only Stuttgart but also for Leverkusen, to maintain their position is quite difficult to do. Because certainly every season will always be different and each club will usually be much more ready to take over the position.

Selling the top scorer team last season become difficult job for VfB Stuttgart manager Sebastian Hoeneß how to manage well for next season keep consistent his team performance in domestic league and UEFA Champion League.
Indeed, and this often happens in various small teams, when their club looks shining in a season, then many of their top players will be targeted by other top clubs. and finally they seem to choose to sell their top players in the hope of increasing the club's income. and they will eventually bring back players to replace their positions, but usually with performances that are not like those top players. But, we'll see how Stuttgart will anticipate this. They were once in a very difficult position when they entered the relegation zone and they were finally able to really rise.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: vegasus on August 06, 2024, 10:42:40 PM
I think become more competitive if next season any new team can destroy with Bayern Leverkusen and Bayern Munich dominance, in this season Leverkusen success winning with unbeaten record and break Bayern record with eleven consecutive season winning the Bundesliga. Seems interested if next season Dortmund or Leipzig as favorite team for winning Bundesliga and every season has difference team dominance the domestic league.
Indeed Leverkusen still on the top favorite team for winning bundesliga because less experience of Kompany seems difficult for him bring Bayern winning bundesliga again.
If Dortmund can really be optimal and consistent, then it will be a pretty good competition in the Bundesliga for the 2024/2025 season. At least, Leverkusen, Bayern Munich, and also Dortmund. All three of them are currently preparing their teams quite well so they can compete much stronger. And the readiness of each club also seems to be almost complete, yes, it's just that they are still targeting some of their target players who have not been approved yet.

For Bayern Munich, yes, however, there are still many people who doubt Kompany's ability to manage a club that big. It's just that, so far, their signings have actually been pretty good. It's just a matter of how Kompany can really be with the squad and make tactical breakthroughs that suit the squad. So, the doubts about him can slowly disappear.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on August 07, 2024, 10:52:08 AM
If Dortmund can really be optimal and consistent, then it will be a pretty good competition in the Bundesliga for the 2024/2025 season. At least, Leverkusen, Bayern Munich, and also Dortmund. All three of them are currently preparing their teams quite well so they can compete much stronger. And the readiness of each club also seems to be almost complete, yes, it's just that they are still targeting some of their target players who have not been approved yet.

For Bayern Munich, yes, however, there are still many people who doubt Kompany's ability to manage a club that big. It's just that, so far, their signings have actually been pretty good. It's just a matter of how Kompany can really be with the squad and make tactical breakthroughs that suit the squad. So, the doubts about him can slowly disappear.

The first team that comes to my mind when we talk about the Bundesliga here will win is Bayern or Leverkusen
Realistically for Dortmund, They won’t come close to what they achieved in the Champions League again
The Bundesliga? Who knows what happens but I think Dortmund might need some time to constantly deliver. The DFB Pokal? Possible for sure
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on August 07, 2024, 05:29:46 PM
Usually maintaining will be more difficult than starting, because there will be vigilance from other teams that is different from before. Apart from that, players who performed well before will be targeted by big teams, so that is also something they have to think about.
Exactly, although Stuttgart certainly still wants to be much better, but the reality may not be as good or as easy as that. Not only Stuttgart but also for Leverkusen, to maintain their position is quite difficult to do. Because certainly every season will always be different and each club will usually be much more ready to take over the position.

Yes, we certainly address this to all teams and not just to certain teams, and perhaps more specifically to teams that have just had an extraordinary season.

In addition to that, the pressure that comes to them will certainly be very high, including the expectations that many people expect of their performance next season. Those expectations are built on what they did in the previous season, so that will also be a pressure that they have to answer.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 07, 2024, 10:50:57 PM
The first team that comes to my mind when we talk about the Bundesliga here will win is Bayern or Leverkusen
Realistically for Dortmund, They won’t come close to what they achieved in the Champions League again
The Bundesliga? Who knows what happens but I think Dortmund might need some time to constantly deliver. The DFB Pokal? Possible for sure

Dortmund is an odd one. Their team was good enough to defeat any top team in the world, their Champions league success was a good proof of that, but they seriously lacked consistency in their performance.
In the last 10 seasons, only three times they managed to earn more than 70 points. And that's probably the bare minimum they would need to win the league, but likely much more than that.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Salahmu on August 09, 2024, 12:24:00 PM
If Dortmund can really be optimal and consistent, then it will be a pretty good competition in the Bundesliga for the 2024/2025 season. At least, Leverkusen, Bayern Munich, and also Dortmund. All three of them are currently preparing their teams quite well so they can compete much stronger. And the readiness of each club also seems to be almost complete, yes, it's just that they are still targeting some of their target players who have not been approved yet.

It will certainly be a challenging season for those three clubs because like you said nobody wants to relent on this upcoming season Bundesliga and I can see that they are all working seriously on there various clubs, however is so funny that Borussia Dortmund, Bayern Munich and Bayern Leverkusen are the strongest club on the season and there is no any other club that can compete with them.

actually I just wish there are more clubs on the Bundesliga that has more performance as the listed clubs it would have been more interesting instead of the trophy always moving within Borussia Dortmund, Bayern Munich and Bayern Leverkusen, but in the case of this upcoming season Bundesliga I have a very good hope that Bayern Munich will win the trophy because that would be the first Assignment of Kompany as the new Bayern Munich coach.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on August 09, 2024, 02:25:43 PM
Dortmund is an odd one. Their team was good enough to defeat any top team in the world, their Champions league success was a good proof of that, but they seriously lacked consistency in their performance.
In the last 10 seasons, only three times they managed to earn more than 70 points. And that's probably the bare minimum they would need to win the league, but likely much more than that.
If they want, they are actually able to do it, but unfortunately it seems like it is not their priority, because if it really is a priority for them, they will not do something that is detrimental to them.

In terms of profit when they sell valuable players, it is clearly a big advantage for them. But looking at the losses, it is clear that they also suffer losses because they have to lose very valuable players.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on August 10, 2024, 02:17:22 PM
There is something to look forward to in the Bundesliga this season, usually we only talk about the big possibility that Bayern Munich will defend the title again, but this time it's different because we talk more about the big possibility of what kind of competition.

Of course this is something even more interesting, because it means that the Bundesliga is more competitive than usual, especially in determining who will be the champion in the next season. I can't wait to see the league running soon.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on August 10, 2024, 02:56:17 PM
The first team that comes to my mind when we talk about the Bundesliga here will win is Bayern or Leverkusen
Realistically for Dortmund, They won’t come close to what they achieved in the Champions League again
The Bundesliga? Who knows what happens but I think Dortmund might need some time to constantly deliver. The DFB Pokal? Possible for sure

Dortmund is an odd one. Their team was good enough to defeat any top team in the world, their Champions league success was a good proof of that, but they seriously lacked consistency in their performance.
In the last 10 seasons, only three times they managed to earn more than 70 points. And that's probably the bare minimum they would need to win the league, but likely much more than that.

Dortmund is such an odd club, at times. How many coaches is it now, just in the last few years?  Seems like one or two a season.
No way to run a club and the coach now is Nuri Sahin, reminder, he's only 35 years old.
At a club like Dortmund, it's not to be easy for him as a first-time manager.
But good for Dortmund, they got one of the most dangerous strikers in the German League last season.
Sehrou Guirassy, ​​he scored 28 goals for VfB Stuttgart in the Bundesliga
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on August 10, 2024, 10:41:24 PM
...but in the case of this upcoming season Bundesliga I have a very good hope that Bayern Munich will win the trophy because that would be the first Assignment of Kompany as the new Bayern Munich coach.
Another good result again for Kompany as he gets a win against Tottenham. Three goals against Tottenham as they have been scoring lots of goals this preseason.

Positive results going into the season and ready to face Bayer Leverkusen. It can happen for him in the first season against Xabi.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: vegasus on August 10, 2024, 11:59:18 PM
If Dortmund can really be optimal and consistent, then it will be a pretty good competition in the Bundesliga for the 2024/2025 season. At least, Leverkusen, Bayern Munich, and also Dortmund.
The first team that comes to my mind when we talk about the Bundesliga here will win is Bayern or Leverkusen
Realistically for Dortmund, They won’t come close to what they achieved in the Champions League again
The Bundesliga? Who knows what happens but I think Dortmund might need some time to constantly deliver. The DFB Pokal? Possible for sure
Leverkusen and Bayern Munich are the toughest candidates for the Bundesliga, both of them will definitely compete very optimally. For Dortmund, that's why I said if they can really be that good and that good in the Bundesliga, then they will be able to join the race, or vice versa.

For the UCL, I'm not sure if Dortmund will be able to repeat their brilliant achievements last season in the coming season. because the UCL competition will also be even tighter in the future. So, it won't be easier for Dortmund to repeat it again.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on August 11, 2024, 02:34:14 PM
...but in the case of this upcoming season Bundesliga I have a very good hope that Bayern Munich will win the trophy because that would be the first Assignment of Kompany as the new Bayern Munich coach.
Another good result again for Kompany as he gets a win against Tottenham. Three goals against Tottenham as they have been scoring lots of goals this preseason.

Positive results going into the season and ready to face Bayer Leverkusen. It can happen for him in the first season against Xabi.
The target imposed by Bayern Munich on Vincent Kompany is certainly a very high target, which is to be able to bring back the championship title that was won by Leverkusen last season. I think that is a reasonable target considering the composition of the existing players.

However, I also hope that Bayern Munich will not be so quick to fire Kompany if he fails to bring home the title this season. With the note that Vincent Kompany can show a good game.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: vegasus on August 11, 2024, 11:15:02 PM
The target imposed by Bayern Munich on Vincent Kompany is certainly a very high target, which is to be able to bring back the championship title that was won by Leverkusen last season. I think that is a reasonable target considering the composition of the existing players.
Indeed, their main target is to overtake the Bundesliga trophy winner position that Leverkusen won last season. And the next target is certainly to get a higher position in the UCL compared to the previous season. Indeed, Kompany is still new as a coach, but Bayern Munich is a big club, so the target must also be high even though it is in Kompany's first year there. That's why many people doubt about Kompany's ability, it's just that, we trust Kompany and Bayern Munich, as fans, just enjoy the results.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 12, 2024, 11:05:13 PM
Bayern defeating Tottenham in both of their friendly matches can be taken as a good sign by their fans, but they also had one friendly game that they cannot be proud about: the 1-1 draw against amateur FC Duren at the end of July.
As for Leverkusen, they chose to play better ranked teams with mixed results. They got some beating from Arsenal, 4-1, which should serve as a cold shower. The next game for Bayer is confrontation with VfB Stuttgart for the DFL supercup. It might not be the most prestigious trophy in the world, but starting the season with a win could be a good morale boost.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: snipie on August 14, 2024, 12:55:50 AM
Bayern defeating Tottenham in both of their friendly matches can be taken as a good sign by their fans, but they also had one friendly game that they cannot be proud about: the 1-1 draw against amateur FC Duren at the end of July.
As for Leverkusen, they chose to play better ranked teams with mixed results. They got some beating from Arsenal, 4-1, which should serve as a cold shower. The next game for Bayer is confrontation with VfB Stuttgart for the DFL supercup. It might not be the most prestigious trophy in the world, but starting the season with a win could be a good morale boost.

Bayer Leverkusen is favourite in this game even though Stuttgart showed a high level in Bundesliga the previous season. The defeat against Arsenal or the draw against Real Betis or Lens have nothing to do with official game where there is a trophy behind.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on August 14, 2024, 07:15:52 AM

Bayer Leverkusen is favourite in this game even though Stuttgart showed a high level in Bundesliga the previous season. The defeat against Arsenal or the draw against Real Betis or Lens have nothing to do with official game where there is a trophy behind.

Sebastian's squad was arguably the surprise team in the last season having only preserved their top-flight status via the relegation play-off 12 months earlier and Stuttgart came as close as anyone to beating Leverkusen, draw home and away in the league but losing in the DFB Cup quarter-finals.
But this season they lost their captain, Waldemar Anton, and top scorer, Serhou Guirassy.
So I agree, in this match Leverkusen will win against Stuttgart
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on August 14, 2024, 03:09:13 PM
The target imposed by Bayern Munich on Vincent Kompany is certainly a very high target, which is to be able to bring back the championship title that was won by Leverkusen last season. I think that is a reasonable target considering the composition of the existing players.
Indeed, their main target is to overtake the Bundesliga trophy winner position that Leverkusen won last season. And the next target is certainly to get a higher position in the UCL compared to the previous season. Indeed, Kompany is still new as a coach, but Bayern Munich is a big club, so the target must also be high even though it is in Kompany's first year there. That's why many people doubt about Kompany's ability, it's just that, we trust Kompany and Bayern Munich, as fans, just enjoy the results.
On the other hand, it will also be a pressure for Company, which if he is not able to face the pressure then it will have a bad impact on the team's game. But he should have been ready for it, he should have been ready when he said yes to handling Bayern Munich.

Not having much experience is something that is highlighted from Kompany and that is seen from his performance in the previous season with the Premier League team.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on August 15, 2024, 04:07:48 PM
Borussia Dortmund is a team that I am looking forward to seeing their performance this season. Previously they were always the main competitor for Bayern Munich, but last season they lost the competition and even Bayern Munich themselves lost the competition.

If they do not improve their performance, then they will be further behind than before. I had hoped that they would be the ones who could stop Bayern Munich's dominance, but that did not come true.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on August 16, 2024, 09:22:15 PM
Not having much experience is something that is highlighted from Kompany and that is seen from his performance in the previous season with the Premier League team.
Kompany's Bayern has started on a flying note, leading Ulm already with two goals, and I am sure more goals will come. There is no chance for Ulm to recover; Bayern needs to make sure of that to get a 100% start. It will be important to keep their confidence going.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on August 17, 2024, 02:35:14 PM
Not having much experience is something that is highlighted from Kompany and that is seen from his performance in the previous season with the Premier League team.
Kompany's Bayern has started on a flying note, leading Ulm already with two goals, and I am sure more goals will come. There is no chance for Ulm to recover; Bayern needs to make sure of that to get a 100% start. It will be important to keep their confidence going.
The opponents they faced were teams from the second tier of German football, so their victory was an easy victory to predict. Not to belittle Ulm, but we know the difference between them.

I am more looking forward to when they face teams like Leverkusen, Borussia Dortmund, those will be teams that can give them a tough fight. Even last season when they faced those two teams they were overwhelmed and even had to suffer defeat.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on August 17, 2024, 05:21:54 PM
The opponents they faced were teams from the second tier of German football, so their victory was an easy victory to predict. Not to belittle Ulm, but we know the difference between them.

I am more looking forward to when they face teams like Leverkusen, Borussia Dortmund, those will be teams that can give them a tough fight. Even last season when they faced those two teams they were overwhelmed and even had to suffer defeat.
Second round seems easily for all top Bundesliga teams because face second tier teams but after raising 16 of roun will face each other with Bundesliga teams participants. Vincent Kompany have good debut on the first match at DFB Pokal first round after winning over 4-0.
But still not proof how compete Bayern Munich in this season although start well on first round of DFB Pokal match. I think most important how to make Bayern Munich keep consistent and perform well in domestic league for this season. Vincent Kompany must bring back Bayern to the tittle race winning after their dominance break by Bayern Leverkusen last season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on August 17, 2024, 07:21:44 PM
Vincent Kompany must bring back Bayern to the tittle race winning after their dominance break by Bayern Leverkusen last season.
Bayern Munich won their game yesterday, and they will be looking at Bayer Leverkusen later today to see how they will perform against Stuttgart. If Xabi Alonso's boys can win this first game, it will set the intention for the new season to show that they are very interested in retaining their Bundesliga title, and that will make other teams who have interest in being the Bundesliga champion this season, including Bayern Munich, more serious.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: debra on August 17, 2024, 10:11:12 PM
Borussia Dortmund is a team that I am looking forward to seeing their performance this season. Previously they were always the main competitor for Bayern Munich, but last season they lost the competition and even Bayern Munich themselves lost the competition.
I am also very curious with the performance of Dortmund in the new season. I see this team could sign some good players in the current transfer windows. It will be a good sign for Dortmund, I really expect this team to play again in their best level. So, we don't only have Bayern Munich and Leverkusen to compete for the title but we also have Dortmund as another candidate.

Bayern Munich looks hard to win the title again if Leverkusen still can play as well as in the previous season. Let's see how Bayern Munich to improve their performance and how Leverkusen to try maintaining their best level.

If they do not improve their performance, then they will be further behind than before. I had hoped that they would be the ones who could stop Bayern Munich's dominance, but that did not come true.
Leverkusen already stopped Bayern Munich's dominance.  :-\
Bayern Munich is no longer the strongest team in Bundesliga. Last season, Leverkusen was the strongest one, never got a single defeat in the whole season.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 17, 2024, 11:57:02 PM
Very even game for the DFL Supercup today. I was worried that Bayer could lose this one as they had a mixed performance in their friendly games, but they did it and they're starting the season with a trophy (small, but still).
Stuttgart dominated in possession, but that's not a surprise, as Leverkusen played with 10 players due to Terrier's red card in 37th minute. Both teams had identical shots/shots on target stats (12/4).
I think Bayer deserved the win, but it wasn't their best performance and they should improve their game if they want to defend the title and be successful in the Champions League.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on August 18, 2024, 06:41:39 AM
Very even game for the DFL Supercup today. I was worried that Bayer could lose this one as they had a mixed performance in their friendly games, but they did it and they're starting the season with a trophy (small, but still).
Stuttgart dominated in possession, but that's not a surprise, as Leverkusen played with 10 players due to Terrier's red card in 37th minute. Both teams had identical shots/shots on target stats (12/4).
I think Bayer deserved the win, but it wasn't their best performance and they should improve their game if they want to defend the title and be successful in the Champions League.

Leverkusen did it again, they were only two minutes away from defeat
Leverkusen once again showed their extraordinary mentality. They did not give up easily even though they were left behind with 10 players.
Leverkusen have strong players from the bench. This is good because Alonso has many options.
Congratulations... I hope more to come this season
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on August 18, 2024, 01:52:55 PM
The opponents they faced were teams from the second tier of German football, so their victory was an easy victory to predict. Not to belittle Ulm, but we know the difference between them.

I am more looking forward to when they face teams like Leverkusen, Borussia Dortmund, those will be teams that can give them a tough fight. Even last season when they faced those two teams they were overwhelmed and even had to suffer defeat.
Second round seems easily for all top Bundesliga teams because face second tier teams but after raising 16 of roun will face each other with Bundesliga teams participants. Vincent Kompany have good debut on the first match at DFB Pokal first round after winning over 4-0.
But still not proof how compete Bayern Munich in this season although start well on first round of DFB Pokal match. I think most important how to make Bayern Munich keep consistent and perform well in domestic league for this season. Vincent Kompany must bring back Bayern to the tittle race winning after their dominance break by Bayern Leverkusen last season.
We still have to wait patiently until we can really see and conclude how they perform under Kompany's direction.

You are right that their real opponents will be when they enter the crucial rounds because usually the teams they will face come from the same caste. Or at least they get equal opponents when they are in the Bundesliga. Now in a few days we will enter the opening of the Bundesliga.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 18, 2024, 10:22:01 PM
Leverkusen did it again, they were only two minutes away from defeat
(...)

Yeah, but that's not necessarily a good sign, they can't allow themselves to be reckless for most of the game just to equalise or score a winning goal at the very end. I guess in this one you could excuse them because of the early red card, but they should be fully focussed from the very first whistle.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on August 19, 2024, 04:27:14 AM
Leverkusen did it again, they were only two minutes away from defeat
(...)

Yeah, but that's not necessarily a good sign, they can't allow themselves to be reckless for most of the game just to equalise or score a winning goal at the very end. I guess in this one you could excuse them because of the early red card, but they should be fully focussed from the very first whistle.
Don't worry, Alonso knows what he needs to do :)
Xabi Alonso's great working approach has paid off in terms of incredible success.
I know this season is getting tougher but The Mentality of Leverkusen is high, Alonso for instilling it in his players. The results of this match are proof of that.
And the journey begins with a solid step, Kompany must be more careful this season if he doesn't want to repeat failure like last season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 21, 2024, 12:29:06 AM
Only 3 days left to the 2024/25 season opening game  Borussia Mönchengladbach Vs Bayer Leverkusen.
Not surprisingly Bayer is a favourite with odds of x1.55. Odds for Mönchengladbach to win stand at x5.20.

Mönchengladbach ended up 14th in the last season, but their last match was a goalless draw in Leverkusen, so who knows, maybe Borussia M will manage to earn at least a point on Friday.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on August 21, 2024, 02:11:06 PM
Only 3 days left to the 2024/25 season opening game  Borussia Mönchengladbach Vs Bayer Leverkusen.
Not surprisingly Bayer is a favourite with odds of x1.55. Odds for Mönchengladbach to win stand at x5.20.

Mönchengladbach ended up 14th in the last season, but their last match was a goalless draw in Leverkusen, so who knows, maybe Borussia M will manage to earn at least a point on Friday.
It is natural that the difference in chances of this match is very large, because Leverkusen are the defending champions and also they were undefeated last season in the Bundesliga.

I am looking forward to this match, Leverkusen get much bigger expectations than before from many people. Yes they will be the center of attention and there will be many questions, whether their success last season can be maintained, or they will decline this season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 21, 2024, 09:16:47 PM
Only 3 days left to the 2024/25 season opening game  Borussia Mönchengladbach Vs Bayer Leverkusen.
Not surprisingly Bayer is a favourite with odds of x1.55. Odds for Mönchengladbach to win stand at x5.20.

Mönchengladbach ended up 14th in the last season, but their last match was a goalless draw in Leverkusen, so who knows, maybe Borussia M will manage to earn at least a point on Friday.

I'm looking forward to seeing Xabi's team play again, for me it will be quite a feat given how much improvement Xabi will bring, I think he will try to do the same as last season and it's win or win.

Now I think that all the teams in the Bundesliga will be very attentive to do things better, because the surprise that Leverkusen gave last season is something that we must watch very carefully, so I hope that this season the level of the Bundesliga is Through the roof.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 22, 2024, 12:01:04 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing Xabi's team play again, for me it will be quite a feat given how much improvement Xabi will bring, I think he will try to do the same as last season and it's win or win.

Given the last season was exceptionally good for Leverkusen, it will be hard to improve on that.
I don't think it's realistic to expect them to get a similar number of league points this season, but even if they end up with 10 or 15 less points, they could still successfully defend the title.
Some are concerned about their not-so-great performance in friendlies, especially the 4-1 loss to Arsenal, but the same happened last season, and that didn't stop them from dominating the league.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on August 22, 2024, 02:28:19 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing Xabi's team play again, for me it will be quite a feat given how much improvement Xabi will bring, I think he will try to do the same as last season and it's win or win.

Given the last season was exceptionally good for Leverkusen, it will be hard to improve on that.
I don't think it's realistic to expect them to get a similar number of league points this season, but even if they end up with 10 or 15 less points, they could still successfully defend the title.
Some are concerned about their not-so-great performance in friendlies, especially the 4-1 loss to Arsenal, but the same happened last season, and that didn't stop them from dominating the league.
Last season they went undefeated in the Bundesliga, that is a very difficult thing for a team to do again. I don't know or I forgot, because so far I have not seen a team that can go undefeated in 2 consecutive seasons, and when there is a team without losing, they immediately make everyone excited.

So now I just say it is a difficult thing for them to do, but if they try hard then nothing is impossible.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: bounceback on August 22, 2024, 05:00:42 PM
Last season they went undefeated in the Bundesliga, that is a very difficult thing for a team to do again. I don't know or I forgot, because so far I have not seen a team that can go undefeated in 2 consecutive seasons, and when there is a team without losing, they immediately make everyone excited.

So now I just say it is a difficult thing for them to do, but if they try hard then nothing is impossible.
I think not difficult for Bayern Leverkusen defend their record keep unbeaten two consecutive season, although Bayern Munich and Dortmund have perform well in pre season matches but still not easy for defeating Bayern Leverkusen. Xabi Alonso not make significant rotation and almost defend all players last season with several new players signing, I believe has opportunity for Leverkusen keep unbeaten in two consecutive season and they are on confidence performance after winning DFL Super Cup after defeating Stuttgart.
The opening match against Gladbach will not be difficult match for Leverkusen continue the unbeaten trend reach up to 35 matches in domestic league.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: UNIVERSE on August 22, 2024, 10:27:03 PM
I think not difficult for Bayern Leverkusen defend their record keep unbeaten two consecutive season, although Bayern Munich and Dortmund have perform well in pre season matches but still not easy for defeating Bayern Leverkusen. Xabi Alonso not make significant rotation and almost defend all players last season with several new players signing, I believe has opportunity for Leverkusen keep unbeaten in two consecutive season and they are on confidence performance after winning DFL Super Cup after defeating Stuttgart.
The opening match against Gladbach will not be difficult match for Leverkusen continue the unbeaten trend reach up to 35 matches in domestic league.
I can agree that Bayer Leverkusen may win again Bundesliga trophy, but I really doubt that Bayer Leverkusen will keep their unbeaten record. I don't see Bayer Leverkusen performance as well as in the previous season. Their performance is no longer like in the previous season, some players also moved from Leverkusen. And other clubs already know the weakness of Bayer Leverkusen after they got a defeat against Atalanta. Their winning against Stuttgart can't be the only reason that Leverkusen to keep their unbeaten record.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: vegasus on August 22, 2024, 10:30:38 PM
Only 3 days left to the 2024/25 season opening game  Borussia Mönchengladbach Vs Bayer Leverkusen.
It is natural that the difference in chances of this match is very large, because Leverkusen are the defending champions and also they were undefeated last season in the Bundesliga.
Monchengladbach last season only finished in 14th position and their performance throughout the season was quite bad. While in this transfer market, they only brought in 4 new players with 2 of them being free transfers. And they are not good players, so there is a possibility that their performance will not be far from last season. Unless the coach has a new strategy again. But I am sure, Leverkusen should win quite easily in this first match. Don't let Xabi let his club lose points or even draw in the first Bundesliga match which will be held tomorrow.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 23, 2024, 12:56:54 AM
(...). But I am sure, Leverkusen should win quite easily in this first match. Don't let Xabi let his club lose points or even draw in the first Bundesliga match which will be held tomorrow.

It might not be as easy as it looks on paper. Monchengladbach will probably aim for 1 point, focus entirely on defence and maybe look for a goal from counterattacks.
Their last clash, in Jan 2024 was a 0-0 draw and Bayer were playing at home, so it's not unlikely we could see a similar outcome this time.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on August 23, 2024, 07:08:17 AM
(...). But I am sure, Leverkusen should win quite easily in this first match. Don't let Xabi let his club lose points or even draw in the first Bundesliga match which will be held tomorrow.

It might not be as easy as it looks on paper. Monchengladbach will probably aim for 1 point, focus entirely on defence and maybe look for a goal from counterattacks.
Their last clash, in Jan 2024 was a 0-0 draw and Bayer were playing at home, so it's not unlikely we could see a similar outcome this time.

I agree, Both teams have started the season with one official match.
Gladbach managed to beat the host Erzgebirge Aue with a score of 3-1 in the DFB Pokal.
Meanwhile, Leverkusen drew 2-2 against Stuttgart in the DFL Supercup, then came out as champions after winning 4-3 in a penalty shootout
So I think this match will be exciting, both teams have the same chance to win but a draw is a good result for both teams
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on August 23, 2024, 02:16:33 PM
Last season they went undefeated in the Bundesliga, that is a very difficult thing for a team to do again. I don't know or I forgot, because so far I have not seen a team that can go undefeated in 2 consecutive seasons, and when there is a team without losing, they immediately make everyone excited.

So now I just say it is a difficult thing for them to do, but if they try hard then nothing is impossible.
I think not difficult for Bayern Leverkusen defend their record keep unbeaten two consecutive season, although Bayern Munich and Dortmund have perform well in pre season matches but still not easy for defeating Bayern Leverkusen. Xabi Alonso not make significant rotation and almost defend all players last season with several new players signing, I believe has opportunity for Leverkusen keep unbeaten in two consecutive season and they are on confidence performance after winning DFL Super Cup after defeating Stuttgart.
The opening match against Gladbach will not be difficult match for Leverkusen continue the unbeaten trend reach up to 35 matches in domestic league.
Not difficult do you think? we should not forget some situations that they will face such as injury storms and others, it will be very influential. Apart from that, they are not only participating in the Bundesliga, but they will appear in other competitions both domestically and at a higher level such as the Champions League.

Their match schedule will be very tight, it is risky for the players, they will definitely rotate but it should also be noted that rotation will not always go well. So that will also make it difficult for them.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 23, 2024, 05:28:43 PM
Last season they went undefeated in the Bundesliga, that is a very difficult thing for a team to do again. I don't know or I forgot, because so far I have not seen a team that can go undefeated in 2 consecutive seasons, (...)

No team has ever gone undefeated for two seasons in a row, at least not in the Bundesliga. Bayer has broken the record for most undefeated games in all competitions, but it's Bayern who holds the longest undefeated streak in the bundesliga:

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Longest unbeaten run: Bayern Munich didn’t lose a single one of their 53 games between Matchday 10 of 2012/13 and Matchday 28 of 2013/14.
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/faq/10-things-on-the-bundesliga/bundesliga-records-goals-titles-attendances-for-players-and-clubs-10555
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on August 23, 2024, 06:47:14 PM
Monchengladbach last season only finished in 14th position and their performance throughout the season was quite bad. While in this transfer market, they only brought in 4 new players with 2 of them being free transfers. And they are not good players, so there is a possibility that their performance will not be far from last season. Unless the coach has a new strategy again. But I am sure, Leverkusen should win quite easily in this first match. Don't let Xabi let his club lose points or even draw in the first Bundesliga match which will be held tomorrow.
If Bayer Leverkusen fail to win their first game, it can signal doom for them this season. With their very remarkable record from last season, I expect this game to be easy for them.

My predictions from the game is two goals for Leverkusen, none for Borussia Monchengladbach.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: alltalk on August 23, 2024, 11:30:16 PM
If Bayer Leverkusen fail to win their first game, it can signal doom for them this season. With their very remarkable record from last season, I expect this game to be easy for them.
Bayer Leverkusen won their first match in Bundesliga. It was a tight match but they could win the match with 3 goals. Wirtz becomes the most shining player in the match, he contributed 2 goals. By the way, you can't determine the performance of Leverkusen in this season based on their first match only. Winning the first match is good, but it doesn't mean Leverkusen will automatically to experience good season.

My predictions from the game is two goals for Leverkusen, none for Borussia Monchengladbach.
Leverkusen made 3 goals. Monchengladbach scored 2 goals. The match almost ended up with a draw result.

Match result: Monchengladbach 2-3 Bayer Leverkusen

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 23, 2024, 11:49:39 PM
Important 3 points for Leverkusen, but that was not an easy game with a drama to the very last seconds.
You don't often see winning goals in 11th minute of the extra time  ;D

Monchengladbach proved they are no pushovers and they put up a real fight.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Captain Corporate on August 23, 2024, 11:56:37 PM
I really can't believe that they did it again, it feels so surreal how many games that Bayer Leverkusen either got a draw or a win at the last minutes. If you check the last one season (and this one game) on how many goals they scored at 90+ added times, Leverkusen could be the team that scored the most goals during that time without a doubt. They seem like they constantly do that, I do not know how they keep doing that, there isn't like some special tactic for it, they just keep on attacking relentlessly until they find a score and somehow it keeps on working every god damn time. Great job, amazing work, love them so much.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on August 23, 2024, 11:57:30 PM
Important 3 points for Leverkusen, but that was not an easy game with a drama to the very last seconds.
You don't often see winning goals in 11th minute of the extra time  ;D

Monchengladbach proved they are no pushovers and they put up a real fight.
Indeed, a very tough game, I really didn't expect Monchengladbach to be this tight in putting up a fight. But Leverkusen's performance was not that good. It's just, ah, the point is this was a pretty tight match. Very fortunately in the end in the last minutes Leverkusen was able to take the lead with 1 additional goal by Florian Wirts.

Almost, draw, almost.

Xabi must be able to redesign their team's sharpness. They had a lot of chances, but failed in their execution. Their shooting accuracy for execution to the goal was not good enough.

Just look at the statistics, they had 25 shots, and 10 of them were on target. How many chances did they miss, quite a lot. And their goal was really in a crucial minute.

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Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on August 24, 2024, 08:49:28 AM
Important 3 points for Leverkusen, but that was not an easy game with a drama to the very last seconds.
You don't often see winning goals in 11th minute of the extra time  ;D

Monchengladbach proved they are no pushovers and they put up a real fight.

Opening win in the league, Moenchengladbach was the first victim. Alonso is a new Pep? :)
Nothing changed from last season, The magic happened again
The new season, but Leverkusen is still the same, Leverkusen always scores in the last minutes. The mentality of the team is amazing.

I Hope Piero Hincapie is doing well, after that brutal foul I'm sure he'll need medical assistance and a scan to check his foot
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on August 24, 2024, 01:58:48 PM
Last season they went undefeated in the Bundesliga, that is a very difficult thing for a team to do again. I don't know or I forgot, because so far I have not seen a team that can go undefeated in 2 consecutive seasons, (...)

No team has ever gone undefeated for two seasons in a row, at least not in the Bundesliga. Bayer has broken the record for most undefeated games in all competitions, but it's Bayern who holds the longest undefeated streak in the bundesliga:

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Longest unbeaten run: Bayern Munich didn’t lose a single one of their 53 games between Matchday 10 of 2012/13 and Matchday 28 of 2013/14.
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/faq/10-things-on-the-bundesliga/bundesliga-records-goals-titles-attendances-for-players-and-clubs-10555
meaning that no team has ever achieved an unbeaten record for at least 2 consecutive seasons. Regarding the longest unbeaten record recorded by Bayern Munich, that is a different story.

To achieve the record achieved by Bayern Munich, it is even more difficult, because in the Europa League final Leverkusen felt the first defeat after their unbeaten record. If only they had not lost at that time, then they could have broken the record previously recorded by Bayern Munich.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 25, 2024, 11:51:19 PM
(...)
To achieve the record achieved by Bayern Munich, it is even more difficult, because in the Europa League final Leverkusen felt the first defeat after their unbeaten record. If only they had not lost at that time, then they could have broken the record previously recorded by Bayern Munich.

Not quite, they did beat the (European) record of a number of games without loss across all competitions, with a run of 51, which ended on that EL final loss to Atalanta.
Bayern still holds a record of games without loss for Bundesliga games only, which is a run of 53. Leverkusen are still going with their previous season's undefeated Bundesliga games, which I believe is now 35. so still a pretty long way to go to beat Bayern's record.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 26, 2024, 09:48:08 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing Xabi's team play again, for me it will be quite a feat given how much improvement Xabi will bring, I think he will try to do the same as last season and it's win or win.

Given the last season was exceptionally good for Leverkusen, it will be hard to improve on that.
I don't think it's realistic to expect them to get a similar number of league points this season, but even if they end up with 10 or 15 less points, they could still successfully defend the title.
Some are concerned about their not-so-great performance in friendlies, especially the 4-1 loss to Arsenal, but the same happened last season, and that didn't stop them from dominating the league.
Yes, indeed, I think that Xabi has done things well with the team , he has Shown that he is very Decisive with his team, we know that such a feat is difficult, but it is as you say, if he ends up with that many points advantage it will be Equally beneficial for the history of the team and the Biggest rival that I see for Leverkusen is Bayern, who have obviously made them proud, I am sure that they will not stop there , there are many things that they will defend, I am sure that they can make the Difference and Remain as the main Dominant teams in the Bundesliga.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 26, 2024, 11:52:33 PM
Yes, indeed, I think that Xabi has done things well with the team , he has Shown that he is very Decisive with his team, we know that such a feat is difficult, but it is as you say, if he ends up with that many points advantage it will be Equally beneficial for the history of the team and the Biggest rival that I see for Leverkusen is Bayern, who have obviously made them proud, I am sure that they will not stop there , there are many things that they will defend, I am sure that they can make the Difference and Remain as the main Dominant teams in the Bundesliga.

I'm pretty sure Xabi could've left for much bigger and richer club after the last season (as there have been quite a few big clubs looking for new managers) but he decided to stay for another season, which must mean he believes he can replicate the success. But to be fair, the club owners will probably still be satisfied with 2nd place and with going through the League stage (which replaced the group stage from this season) of the Champions' League.
Bookies favour Bayern to win the title, with the outright odds currently being x1.53 for Bayern to win the title, while Leverkusen's odds are at x3.10.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on August 26, 2024, 11:54:48 PM
meaning that no team has ever achieved an unbeaten record for at least 2 consecutive seasons. Regarding the longest unbeaten record recorded by Bayern Munich, that is a different story.
The record achievements of Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich are different. Yes, maintaining the record of becoming consecutive league champions even for several/many seasons may be said to be easier than maintaining an unbeaten record throughout the season, and repeating it again in the next few seasons. Because, that means never losing even once. And this will be very difficult to repeat. It is possible, but the chances are small.

Meanwhile, this time, this season, the competition in the Bundesliga will certainly be even tighter. Xabi must make extra efforts to defend the Bundesliga title this season, and also focus on other tough matches in the UCL.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 27, 2024, 03:52:15 PM
(...)
To achieve the record achieved by Bayern Munich, it is even more difficult, because in the Europa League final Leverkusen felt the first defeat after their unbeaten record. If only they had not lost at that time, then they could have broken the record previously recorded by Bayern Munich.

Not quite, they did beat the (European) record of a number of games without loss across all competitions, with a run of 51, which ended on that EL final loss to Atalanta.
Bayern still holds a record of games without loss for Bundesliga games only, which is a run of 53. Leverkusen are still going with their previous season's undefeated Bundesliga games, which I believe is now 35. so still a pretty long way to go to beat Bayern's record.

You're right about that, it's worth noting that Leverkusen did this in just one season, and the history that Bayern have created can't be underestimated , that's something that can't be ignored, Personally, I still believe that Xabi's good management is what has made the difference. As for Bayern, they will always be favourites to reach any final, be it in the Bundeliga or even the UCL, which we all like, but we have to wait and see, I think Leverkusen's aim will always be to win and/or compete for records. They are currently going through a very good run of form.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on August 28, 2024, 02:32:14 PM
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To achieve the record achieved by Bayern Munich, it is even more difficult, because in the Europa League final Leverkusen felt the first defeat after their unbeaten record. If only they had not lost at that time, then they could have broken the record previously recorded by Bayern Munich.

Not quite, they did beat the (European) record of a number of games without loss across all competitions, with a run of 51, which ended on that EL final loss to Atalanta.
Bayern still holds a record of games without loss for Bundesliga games only, which is a run of 53. Leverkusen are still going with their previous season's undefeated Bundesliga games, which I believe is now 35. so still a pretty long way to go to beat Bayern's record.
I think I said the same thing before, they can't break Bayern Munich's unbeaten run because they lost to Atalanta in the Europa League final. If they had won that they would have equalled Bayern Munich's unbeaten run because they won the DFB Pokal final in the next game.

now they have to start from scratch and it's obviously going to be a long journey and it's not going to be easy for them because they're going to be facing strong teams in all the competitions they're playing in.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: UNIVERSE on August 28, 2024, 03:49:53 PM
The record achievements of Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich are different. Yes, maintaining the record of becoming consecutive league champions even for several/many seasons may be said to be easier than maintaining an unbeaten record throughout the season, and repeating it again in the next few seasons. Because, that means never losing even once. And this will be very difficult to repeat. It is possible, but the chances are small.
Of course, it is because these teams are basically very different. Bayern Munich often wins Bundesliga and they dominate it almost every season. Meanwhile Leverkusen is just an average team, they never won Bundesliga before Xabi Alonso managed the team. So, the record achieved by Leverkusen under Xabi Alonso is very special. Moreover, they were unbeaten in the whole season.

Meanwhile, this time, this season, the competition in the Bundesliga will certainly be even tighter. Xabi must make extra efforts to defend the Bundesliga title this season, and also focus on other tough matches in the UCL.
It will be never easy to defend the champion. Leverkusen will face the challenge, but I'm sure Xabi Alonso still has a chance to win it again. If I analyzed the performance of Leverkusen recently, they are still quite strong to compete with Bayern Munich and Dortmund. But for UCL, honestly I don't expect much on Leverkusen. They look like not really impressive in international competitions like UCL and UEL. They never won international competitions, they are good for domestic competitions.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 28, 2024, 11:21:32 PM
I think I said the same thing before, they can't break Bayern Munich's unbeaten run because they lost to Atalanta in the Europa League final. If they had won that they would have equalled Bayern Munich's unbeaten run because they won the DFB Pokal final in the next game.

now they have to start from scratch and it's obviously going to be a long journey and it's not going to be easy for them because they're going to be facing strong teams in all the competitions they're playing in.

I think you misunderstand what Bayern's record represents. It's not for all competitions but for Bundesliga games only, meaning they had some losses in between Bundesliga games (i.e. in European cups etc).
As for Leverkusen, the loss to Atalanta did finish their run of undefeated games across all competitions but didn't break their run of undefeated games in the Bundesliga. They're still going with that second run and don't have to start from scratch.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on August 28, 2024, 11:36:29 PM
Meanwhile, this time, this season, the competition in the Bundesliga will certainly be even tighter. Xabi must make extra efforts to defend the Bundesliga title this season, and also focus on other tough matches in the UCL.
It will be never easy to defend the champion. Leverkusen will face the challenge, but I'm sure Xabi Alonso still has a chance to win it again. If I analyzed the performance of Leverkusen recently, they are still quite strong to compete with Bayern Munich and Dortmund. But for UCL, honestly I don't expect much on Leverkusen. They look like not really impressive in international competitions like UCL and UEL. They never won international competitions, they are good for domestic competitions.
And in the first Bundesliga match, Xabi and Leverkusen were still a bit less than optimal. So they almost ended in a draw. And this is what became Xabi's alertness to make the team much more solid, because there are some new players who have joined. So they have to adjust themselves to the team. And this is also actually a challenge for Xabi.

In the second match, Leverkusen's opponent is Leipzig, which is certainly much stronger than the previous opponent. And this is the first challenge for Xabi to make his team superior to the club like last season. Xabi must be more careful in compiling the squad. However, with his ability and experience last season, I am quite sure that Leverkusen can also excel this time.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on August 29, 2024, 01:37:35 PM

In the second match, Leverkusen's opponent is Leipzig, which is certainly much stronger than the previous opponent. And this is the first challenge for Xabi to make his team superior to the club like last season. Xabi must be more careful in compiling the squad. However, with his ability and experience last season, I am quite sure that Leverkusen can also excel this time.

Three consecutive wins at the start of the season gave positive vibes for Alonso's squad to repeat last season's success
And Leverkusen has beaten Leipzig in the last three meetings.
However, the Belgian connection (Loïs Openda, Arthur Vermeeren, and Maarten Vandevoordt) with Marco Rose's tactics will be ready for the match next Saturday and will get them back on track. IMO
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on August 29, 2024, 06:14:41 PM
I think I said the same thing before, they can't break Bayern Munich's unbeaten run because they lost to Atalanta in the Europa League final. If they had won that they would have equalled Bayern Munich's unbeaten run because they won the DFB Pokal final in the next game.

now they have to start from scratch and it's obviously going to be a long journey and it's not going to be easy for them because they're going to be facing strong teams in all the competitions they're playing in.

I think you misunderstand what Bayern's record represents. It's not for all competitions but for Bundesliga games only, meaning they had some losses in between Bundesliga games (i.e. in European cups etc).
As for Leverkusen, the loss to Atalanta did finish their run of undefeated games across all competitions but didn't break their run of undefeated games in the Bundesliga. They're still going with that second run and don't have to start from scratch.
Oh yes, thanks for reminding me, I seem quite excited to talk about this unbeaten record, so I was not careful in reading what you said.

But it is indeed quite difficult to distinguish it when we are not very careful, especially when it comes to unbeaten records, because in my mind, I think we are talking based on all the competitions played by a team, not just focused on one competition. The mistake is that we have different perceptions.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on August 31, 2024, 07:04:17 PM
So two of the potential title contenders, Borussia Dortmund and VfB Stuttgart with 0-0 draw against Werder Bremen and 3-3 draw against Mainz respectively.
This could be an early sign the the real fight for the championship will be between Bayer and Bayern.
Bayern is playing Freiburg at home, Freiburg finished in the middle of the table last season, so anything other than an easy win for Bayern will be a disappointment.
Leverkusen is playing against Lepzig right now. After half an hour, we have a goalless draw, but Leverkusen is dominating with shots on goals, so might find their way to the net eventually.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on August 31, 2024, 10:07:22 PM
Leverkusen is playing against Lepzig right now. After half an hour, we have a goalless draw, but Leverkusen is dominating with shots on goals, so might find their way to the net eventually.
Leverkusen lost the game despite having a two-goal lead. Early loss for Leverkusen this season means that they will not be able to defend their Bundesliga title. The focus of Xabi Alonso's team should be bigger than just winning the Bundesliga but also involve performing well in the Champions League that has a new format. If Leverkusen are able to do well in the Champions League, their fans may be able to permit a slip in the defense for the Bundesliga title.

The game ended 2-3; Leipzig won the game.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on September 01, 2024, 08:12:40 AM
Leverkusen is playing against Lepzig right now. After half an hour, we have a goalless draw, but Leverkusen is dominating with shots on goals, so might find their way to the net eventually.
Leverkusen lost the game despite having a two-goal lead. Early loss for Leverkusen this season means that they will not be able to defend their Bundesliga title. The focus of Xabi Alonso's team should be bigger than just winning the Bundesliga but also involve performing well in the Champions League that has a new format. If Leverkusen are able to do well in the Champions League, their fans may be able to permit a slip in the defense for the Bundesliga title.

The game ended 2-3; Leipzig won the game.

Leverkusen gave Leipzig a lot of space in the second half to develop their game.
It's not good to let opponents come back from a 2-0 lead, and Leverkusen paid the price, they lost.
And this win is more than three points for Marco Rose who was sent off and had to move to the stands. He did what many teams are trying to do at the moment. not letting Leverkusen get into their game and preventing Leverkusen's midfielders from turning on the ball. Marco Rose wanted his squad to pressure them and he succeeded...
Congratulations...
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on September 01, 2024, 02:49:50 PM
Leverkusen lost the game despite having a two-goal lead. Early loss for Leverkusen this season means that they will not be able to defend their Bundesliga title. The focus of Xabi Alonso's team should be bigger than just winning the Bundesliga but also involve performing well in the Champions League that has a new format. If Leverkusen are able to do well in the Champions League, their fans may be able to permit a slip in the defense for the Bundesliga title.

The game ended 2-3; Leipzig won the game.
I don't think we can be too quick to conclude that they won't be able to defend the Bundesliga title just because they lost one game, while we are still early in the season and there are still many games to play.

It depends on them too, if they can bounce back by getting points in the next games, then they still have a chance to defend the title. It's just that now the hope of finishing the league without losing is gone.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on September 01, 2024, 06:26:01 PM
I don't think we can be too quick to conclude that they won't be able to defend the Bundesliga title just because they lost one game, while we are still early in the season and there are still many games to play.

It depends on them too, if they can bounce back by getting points in the next games, then they still have a chance to defend the title. It's just that now the hope of finishing the league without losing is gone.
Seems quickly for predicting Bayern Leverkusen will loss their dominance in Bundesliga after defeating by RB Leipzig last match,  the Bundesliga played two matches and very early for predicting which one team will loss dominance for winning Bundesliga trophy although Bayern Leverkusen get their first defeated in this season.
Have many crucial and super big match with candidate team face each other, I think second half season very accurate for predicting about Bayern Leverkusen has opportunity for defending theri domestic league tittle or Bayern Munich will be favorite team.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on September 01, 2024, 11:29:21 PM
What a weird game it was yesterday between Leverkusen and Leipzig. Everything was going smoothly for Bayer, they played at home, they took a 2-0 nil in the first half, they were dominating in possession and shots on goal, but Leipzig proved they are not to be underestimated, they fought till the end and managed to grab an important 3 points with a 2-3 win.
That ended Bayer's run of Bundesliga games without a loss of, if I'm not mistaken, 34, and now we know Bayern's record is not under threat. At least not for now.

It's almost like Leverkusen exhausted their luck in the last season with last-minute equalisers. I still believe they are more than capable of defending the title if they don't let that loss get in their heads.
Meanwhile, Bayern scored a 2-0 win over Freiburg and moved to the 2nd place of the table behind Heidenheim.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on September 03, 2024, 08:06:54 AM
Meanwhile, Bayern scored a 2-0 win over Freiburg and moved to the 2nd place of the table behind Heidenheim.

Nope, Bayern won 2.5 goals, mate  ;D Freiburg missed their penalty, The aura of Manuel Neuer...
Good game, Vincent Kompany is settling in well. 2 Games 2 Win
And Thomas Müller's Record-breaking 710 Bayern appearances, he has become the most capped player in Bayern's history. Congrats...
But apart from that, I liked Freiburg's game in the second half.
Julian Schuster's squad was able to keep up with Bayern but without the first goal, the second goal would not have happened either
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on September 03, 2024, 04:28:57 PM
Bayern's next game is as easy as it gets: Holsten Kiel. HK got promoted to the Bundesliga this season and have so far lost the first 2 games, making them a massive underdog against Bayern and I don't think home advantage would be much of a help.
The problem is, Beyern is playing an opening round against Dinamo Zagreb on Tue, the week after, so Kompany might be tempted to let some key players rest on Sat, to make sure they're 100% on Tue. But at this stage, Kompany and the club are almost definitely more focussed on winning back the Bundesliga than on the Champion's League, so I imagine they will approach Saturday's game with full seriousness and maybe if all goes to plan and if they work out more than 1 goal advantage, he'll let some bench players in earlier.
But if Bayern is also committed of getting through the group stage of the UCL, they really need to win with Zagreb, as next games will be much harder (Aston Villa, Barcelona, Benfica, PSG).
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: UNIVERSE on September 03, 2024, 11:36:32 PM
I don't think we can be too quick to conclude that they won't be able to defend the Bundesliga title just because they lost one game, while we are still early in the season and there are still many games to play.

It depends on them too, if they can bounce back by getting points in the next games, then they still have a chance to defend the title. It's just that now the hope of finishing the league without losing is gone.
Agree. It is too early to exclude Bayer Leverkusen from the race of Bundesliga title. It is still very early of the season, Leverkusen has many chances to be back to the top of the standings. Although Bayern Munich looks to have the highest chance to win the Bundesliga title now, but there is no guarantee that Bayern Munich can keep their consistency winning every match. But sure, Leverkusen failed to maintain their unbeaten record.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: vegasus on September 03, 2024, 11:41:08 PM
I don't think we can be too quick to conclude that they won't be able to defend the Bundesliga title just because they lost one game, while we are still early in the season and there are still many games to play.
Agree. It is too early to exclude Bayer Leverkusen from the race of Bundesliga title. It is still very early of the season, Leverkusen has many chances to be back to the top of the standings. Although Bayern Munich looks to have the highest chance to win the Bundesliga title now, but there is no guarantee that Bayern Munich can keep their consistency winning every match. But sure, Leverkusen failed to maintain their unbeaten record.
This is only the second match in the Bundesliga. Previously, Leverkusen managed to win and in the second match, they lost. This is quite surprising, but when you look at the opponent, it makes sense because Leipzig is a club that is indeed superior, even winning the UEFA Europa League. Although last season, Leverkusen always won, this season is a bit different. Leipzig is also strengthening its team.

The point is, we'll just see how the next matches go. Xabi knows what he must do to improve the squad's ability to win again and again. This is a chance for Xabi to bring Leverkusen much stronger and ready again in every match, both in the Bundesliga and in the UCL which will certainly be very tight and difficult.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on September 04, 2024, 04:45:16 PM
The point is, we'll just see how the next matches go. Xabi knows what he must do to improve the squad's ability to win again and again. This is a chance for Xabi to bring Leverkusen much stronger and ready again in every match, both in the Bundesliga and in the UCL which will certainly be very tight and difficult.
In this match, Leverkusen actually did well, especially when they were ahead in the first half, until they were really ahead 2-0. However, in the second half, Xabi realized that they lost control, and gave Leipzig more space. Their defense was really messy, their focus was divided. Especially when the position was the same, this made them even less focused and finally gave Leipzig the opportunity to turn things around.

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/04/9KTYG.png)

But, Xabi himself remains convinced that this is just the beginning of the season and they believe that they will be able to achieve a better victory in the next match, based on the very valuable lesson in the last defeat against Leipzig,

https://x.com/bayer04_en/status/1829968544488177878
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on September 04, 2024, 04:57:10 PM
In this match, Leverkusen actually did well, especially when they were ahead in the first half, until they were really ahead 2-0. However, in the second half, Xabi realized that they lost control, and gave Leipzig more space. Their defense was really messy, their focus was divided. Especially when the position was the same, this made them even less focused and finally gave Leipzig the opportunity to turn things around.

All this is a learning experience , for Xabi Alonso all this will be feedback to his team, they know that they are doing things well, but there is something that is costing them, it is how to maintain the result, or to stay calm when they should defend well , I personally see that Leverkusen is Trying to do the same strategies as last season and the teams have already studied all their strategies, Xabi has to fine-tune his strategies very well so that something like this does not happen to them again , it is a vulnerability what is happening.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on September 04, 2024, 06:05:58 PM
I don't think we can be too quick to conclude that they won't be able to defend the Bundesliga title just because they lost one game, while we are still early in the season and there are still many games to play.

It depends on them too, if they can bounce back by getting points in the next games, then they still have a chance to defend the title. It's just that now the hope of finishing the league without losing is gone.
Seems quickly for predicting Bayern Leverkusen will loss their dominance in Bundesliga after defeating by RB Leipzig last match,  the Bundesliga played two matches and very early for predicting which one team will loss dominance for winning Bundesliga trophy although Bayern Leverkusen get their first defeated in this season.
Have many crucial and super big match with candidate team face each other, I think second half season very accurate for predicting about Bayern Leverkusen has opportunity for defending theri domestic league tittle or Bayern Munich will be favorite team.
Well, the second half is all visible, when they have completed 17 matches in the first round. Also usually in the second half the difference in points between the teams will also be striking, which teams are competing at the top, middle and bottom.

This makes it more possible for us to predict and the possibility of the prediction being correct, will not be completely correct, because when the difference in points between them is very small then every week will always be tense.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: vegasus on September 05, 2024, 03:29:58 PM
The point is, we'll just see how the next matches go. Xabi knows what he must do to improve the squad's ability to win again and again. This is a chance for Xabi to bring Leverkusen much stronger and ready again in every match, both in the Bundesliga and in the UCL which will certainly be very tight and difficult.
In this match, Leverkusen actually did well, especially when they were ahead in the first half, until they were really ahead 2-0. However, in the second half, Xabi realized that they lost control, and gave Leipzig more space. Their defense was really messy, their focus was divided. Especially when the position was the same, this made them even less focused and finally gave Leipzig the opportunity to turn things around.
Yes, maybe because they felt they were already ahead so in the second half they really lost control and found it hard to really focus again. especially when it turned out that their counter attack really made a goal into Leverkusen, they looked shocked and made them lose focus even more. This is what Leverkusen players must also improve so that they are much more mentally prepared in any position.

In the next match, Leverkusen will compete against a regular team. At least they can neutralize their emotions and disappointment over the defeat. and can really optimize in the match. How[[un, they must get full points again so as not to be left behind in the Bundesliga championship race this season. Because it turns out that it is not only Dortmund and Bayern Munich, but there are more clubs that have the potential to compete stronger.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on September 05, 2024, 05:14:18 PM
Borussia Dortmund is one of the big teams in the Bundesliga, almost every season they are always below Bayern Munich, except last season, they had to be eliminated far from the second rank they usually occupy.

I want to see their journey this season, seeing the beginning of the Bundesliga I can't see fully whether they will be able to be better or not. However, from the 2 matches they have played, they have won 1 and drawn 1.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on September 06, 2024, 12:01:59 AM
Borussia Dortmund is one of the big teams in the Bundesliga, almost every season they are always below Bayern Munich, except last season, they had to be eliminated far from the second rank they usually occupy.

I want to see their journey this season, seeing the beginning of the Bundesliga I can't see fully whether they will be able to be better or not. However, from the 2 matches they have played, they have won 1 and drawn 1.

They would always finish at the top of the table, but they haven't won the league in over 12 years, the last time they reached for the title was in the 2011/12 season. They were very close in 2022/23 though, when they ended up with the same number of points as Bayern.
It seems like Dortmund's owners are quite content with staying behind Bayern, as they don't tend to splash out money on expensive sign-ups etc.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on September 06, 2024, 05:09:05 PM
Borussia Dortmund is one of the big teams in the Bundesliga, almost every season they are always below Bayern Munich, except last season, they had to be eliminated far from the second rank they usually occupy.

I want to see their journey this season, seeing the beginning of the Bundesliga I can't see fully whether they will be able to be better or not. However, from the 2 matches they have played, they have won 1 and drawn 1.

They would always finish at the top of the table, but they haven't won the league in over 12 years, the last time they reached for the title was in the 2011/12 season. They were very close in 2022/23 though, when they ended up with the same number of points as Bayern.
It seems like Dortmund's owners are quite content with staying behind Bayern, as they don't tend to splash out money on expensive sign-ups etc.
Well that's what I can't understand about them, because if they want, they can actually show something better, it's just that they prioritize business over achievement.

I know that in football business cannot be separated, but I mean it would be much better if they put them in the same position. In addition to doing business, they also have to pursue achievements in the competitions they play.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on September 06, 2024, 05:22:40 PM
Borussia Dortmund is one of the big teams in the Bundesliga, almost every season they are always below Bayern Munich, except last season, they had to be eliminated far from the second rank they usually occupy.

I want to see their journey this season, seeing the beginning of the Bundesliga I can't see fully whether they will be able to be better or not. However, from the 2 matches they have played, they have won 1 and drawn 1.

They would always finish at the top of the table, but they haven't won the league in over 12 years, the last time they reached for the title was in the 2011/12 season. They were very close in 2022/23 though, when they ended up with the same number of points as Bayern.
It seems like Dortmund's owners are quite content with staying behind Bayern, as they don't tend to splash out money on expensive sign-ups etc.

Sebastian Kehl says they want to perform at the top level to compete in the Bundesliga, DFB Pokal, Champions League, and Club World Cup but their squad doesn't look promising, although results so far have not been too bad.
They were lucky last year to reach that far. Unfortunately, they don't deserve it, anyone who can only play in the Champions League and sometimes plays underground in the league is not the best team.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: debra on September 06, 2024, 11:29:11 PM
Leverkusen lost the game despite having a two-goal lead. Early loss for Leverkusen this season means that they will not be able to defend their Bundesliga title. The focus of Xabi Alonso's team should be bigger than just winning the Bundesliga but also involve performing well in the Champions League that has a new format. If Leverkusen are able to do well in the Champions League, their fans may be able to permit a slip in the defense for the Bundesliga title. The game ended 2-3; Leipzig won the game.
It was a bad result for Leverkusen. They missed 3 points and it makes Bayern Munich and Leipzig to lead the table. It is not a good start for Leverkusen and they failed to keep their unbeaten record. I think Leverkusen didn't performance as well as in the previous season. It may be caused some players leaving the club. Or other teams in Bundesliga have improved their strengthen.

In UCL, I think Leverkusen won't have a big chance to win the title. There are many strong teams in UCL, Leverkusen looks not a favorite team in UCL. Man City, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Inter Milan, and Bayern Munich look to be the favorite teams in UCL this season. I think Xabi won't target to reach the final.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on September 07, 2024, 03:14:11 PM
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All this is a learning experience , for Xabi Alonso all this will be feedback to his team, they know that they are doing things well, but there is something that is costing them, it is how to maintain the result, or to stay calm when they should defend well
Yes, that's right, this is important feedback and evaluation for all of them. Because, in the future, there will be many difficult matches that they have to face, not only in the Bundesliga, but also the UCL that awaits them.

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In the next match, Leverkusen will compete against a regular team. At least they can neutralize their emotions and disappointment over the defeat.
Don't worry., Leverkusen still hold more winnings than TSG Hoffenheim. So, I still believe in Xabi who can restore the confidence of all players quickly to fight much better. Because, they need continuous wins in the future. I'm sure Leverkusen will win.

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/07/Bux6v.png)
https://www.sofascore.ro/ro/football/match/bayer-04-leverkusen-tsg-hoffenheim/ubbsGdb
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: vegasus on September 07, 2024, 11:26:03 PM
Leverkusen lost the game despite having a two-goal lead. Early loss for Leverkusen this season means that they will not be able to defend their Bundesliga title.
Yes, Leverkusen's failure has put them in a rather sad and annoying position against Leipzig. Although their opponents are also big clubs. In the future, Leverkusen has a high chance of winning, so stay calm.

This is different from their opponents, namely Dortmund and Heidenheim, who have to fight each other in the early stages of the season. There are many pros and cons for both of them. It's just that, I think Dortmund might win. Eh, but I don't know, Heidenheim is not a weak opponent either.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on September 08, 2024, 04:56:37 PM
Leverkusen lost the game despite having a two-goal lead. Early loss for Leverkusen this season means that they will not be able to defend their Bundesliga title.
Yes, Leverkusen's failure has put them in a rather sad and annoying position against Leipzig. Although their opponents are also big clubs. In the future, Leverkusen has a high chance of winning, so stay calm.

This is different from their opponents, namely Dortmund and Heidenheim, who have to fight each other in the early stages of the season. There are many pros and cons for both of them. It's just that, I think Dortmund might win. Eh, but I don't know, Heidenheim is not a weak opponent either.
Our discussion or question about Leverkusen to be able to maintain an unbeaten record in the Bundesliga is over after they suffered a defeat when facing Leipzig. Indeed, maintaining it will be much more difficult and that is what Leverkusen feels.

However, their chances of defending the title are still there and still very open for them. Now they have to learn from the defeat they received this season, they must be able to use it as a spur to make them even better.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: vegasus on September 08, 2024, 11:45:02 PM
In the next match, Leverkusen will compete against a regular team. At least they can neutralize their emotions and disappointment over the defeat.
Don't worry., Leverkusen still hold more winnings than TSG Hoffenheim. So, I still believe in Xabi who can restore the confidence of all players quickly to fight much better. Because, they need continuous wins in the future. I'm sure Leverkusen will win.

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/07/Bux6v.png)
https://www.sofascore.ro/ro/football/match/bayer-04-leverkusen-tsg-hoffenheim/ubbsGdb
Indeed, if you look at the head-to-head, Leverkusen should definitely win, hopefully Xabi and his friends will not make any mistakes in the match. Because, really, Leverkusen needs a full 3 points to be able to catch up with the clubs competing for the Bundesliga title. This is not easy, but it does not mean it is impossible, right?

Our discussion or question about Leverkusen to be able to maintain an unbeaten record in the Bundesliga is over after they suffered a defeat when facing Leipzig. Indeed, maintaining it will be much more difficult and that is what Leverkusen feels.
Yes, it's exactly finished.
And now, Leverkusen is struggling to be able to maintain as the winner of Bundesliga in which it is also going to be difficult. Because the competition in Bundesliga is much tighter and more competitors are starting to show the strength of their clubs that are more consistent in the future. This will be even more exciting, the Bundesliga is no longer like a few years ago which was quite boring. Now, there are many speculations and predictions in the Bundesliga, not only Bayern Munich dominates, but there are more and more clubs that have the potential to compete there. Moreover, the Bundesliga also sends a large number of clubs to the UCL match.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on September 09, 2024, 09:46:18 AM
And now, Leverkusen is struggling to be able to maintain as the winner of Bundesliga in which it is also going to be difficult. Because the competition in Bundesliga is much tighter and more competitors are starting to show the strength of their clubs that are more consistent in the future. This will be even more exciting, the Bundesliga is no longer like a few years ago which was quite boring. Now, there are many speculations and predictions in the Bundesliga, not only Bayern Munich dominates, but there are more and more clubs that have the potential to compete there. Moreover, the Bundesliga also sends a large number of clubs to the UCL match.

I like competition, the more competitive it is the better for the fans :)
A history filled with thrilling football, legendary clubs, great players, sportsmanship, and respect in this league.
This season the Bundesliga will present more entertaining and world-class football.IMO
For fans from Asia Pacific, the Bundesliga is more attractive because the Bundesliga has more Asian players than other European leagues, the best talents from Asia, and many Asian players become stars in the Bundesliga
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on September 10, 2024, 12:20:03 AM
Sebastian Kehl says they want to perform at the top level to compete in the Bundesliga, DFB Pokal, Champions League, and Club World Cup but their squad doesn't look promising, although results so far have not been too bad.

Talk is cheap. It doesn't seem like they are willing to put the money where their mouth is and invest in top-shelf players to stop being a permanent underdog in the European cups, counting mostly on luck.
As I said before, to me it looks like the club is content with staying in the shadow of Bayern (and maybe now Bayer as well), and they're not willing to risk any money to take the club to another level.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on September 10, 2024, 12:29:09 AM
Yes, that's right, this is important feedback and evaluation for all of them. Because, in the future, there will be many difficult matches that they have to face, not only in the Bundesliga, but also the UCL that awaits them.

Yes, because basically everyone has their eyes set only on him, to see how they are going to play, and I am logical, because winning a Bundesliga being undefeated, it is obvious that all the tensions, attention and analysis will be on them, of course Byaern has stood out a bit, I also have a lot of faith in Dorun, because they are one of the teams that are most at the forefront right now, I think it will be difficult for another team to sneak in being undefeated, really right now this season I don't think they will leave like that, we need to see how Leverkusen has performed this season in the UCL.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on September 10, 2024, 02:24:20 PM
Sebastian Kehl says they want to perform at the top level to compete in the Bundesliga, DFB Pokal, Champions League, and Club World Cup but their squad doesn't look promising, although results so far have not been too bad.

Talk is cheap. It doesn't seem like they are willing to put the money where their mouth is and invest in top-shelf players to stop being a permanent underdog in the European cups, counting mostly on luck.
As I said before, to me it looks like the club is content with staying in the shadow of Bayern (and maybe now Bayer as well), and they're not willing to risk any money to take the club to another level.

Everyone can cook, but whether it tastes good is something else entirely :)
Dortmund has limited financial capabilities and Sebastian Kehl is willing to take risks in the transfer market, the recruitment of Nuri Sahin as a coach is proof of that.
Although there have been no outstanding achievements during his career as a coach,
In the end, BVB Legend is in the building. Wishing him luck. Anyway, Let’s see how it works out
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on September 11, 2024, 05:09:24 PM
Our discussion or question about Leverkusen to be able to maintain an unbeaten record in the Bundesliga is over after they suffered a defeat when facing Leipzig. Indeed, maintaining it will be much more difficult and that is what Leverkusen feels.
Yes, it's exactly finished.
And now, Leverkusen is struggling to be able to maintain as the winner of Bundesliga in which it is also going to be difficult. Because the competition in Bundesliga is much tighter and more competitors are starting to show the strength of their clubs that are more consistent in the future. This will be even more exciting, the Bundesliga is no longer like a few years ago which was quite boring. Now, there are many speculations and predictions in the Bundesliga, not only Bayern Munich dominates, but there are more and more clubs that have the potential to compete there. Moreover, the Bundesliga also sends a large number of clubs to the UCL match.
This is what we expect that the competition will increase and make it more interesting to see the competition. Leverkusen is the team that is awaited this season, because they are the team that holds the status of defending champion.

Bayern Munich will also continue to pursue to regain the lost title, Borussia Dortmund should be motivated to do the same. Apart from them, other teams must also fight hard to be able to provide an extraordinary surprise.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: UNIVERSE on September 11, 2024, 10:22:34 PM
Our discussion or question about Leverkusen to be able to maintain an unbeaten record in the Bundesliga is over after they suffered a defeat when facing Leipzig. Indeed, maintaining it will be much more difficult and that is what Leverkusen feels.

However, their chances of defending the title are still there and still very open for them. Now they have to learn from the defeat they received this season, they must be able to use it as a spur to make them even better.
Yes, Leverkusen failed to keep their unbeaten record because Leipzig defeated them. This season Leverkusen has no chance to finish the season with unbeaten record again. Everything looks to change in this season, Leverkusen is no longer as strong as the previous season.

It is true that they still have a chance to win Bundesliga title. It is still the beginning of the season, there are still too many matches left. But if we analyze their current performance, they look not really convincing anymore. I even consider Bayern Munich and Dortmund to be a better candidate of the champion this season.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: vegasus on September 11, 2024, 10:57:12 PM
And now, Leverkusen is struggling to be able to maintain as the winner of Bundesliga in which it is also going to be difficult. Because the competition in Bundesliga is much tighter and more competitors are starting to show the strength of their clubs that are more consistent in the future.

I like competition, the more competitive it is the better for the fans :)
A history filled with thrilling football, legendary clubs, great players, sportsmanship, and respect in this league.
This season the Bundesliga will present more entertaining and world-class football.
Of course, because otherwise, it would be very boring, wouldn't it? Because for now, it's still a debate who will be the Bundesliga trophy holder this season, and it's fun. From when only Bayern Munich was dominant, it was boring because before the season started, we already knew that the winner would be Bayern Munich. But this season is different, we will really be curious.

Think about what happen in French League, it is still very predictable and dominant PSG as the winner, still not really interesting as other leagues whcih are very competitive.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Themepen on September 11, 2024, 11:23:16 PM
Yes, Leverkusen failed to keep their unbeaten record because Leipzig defeated them. This season Leverkusen has no chance to finish the season with unbeaten record again. Everything looks to change in this season, Leverkusen is no longer as strong as the previous season.

It is true that they still have a chance to win Bundesliga title. It is still the beginning of the season, there are still too many matches left. But if we analyze their current performance, they look not really convincing anymore. I even consider Bayern Munich and Dortmund to be a better candidate of the champion this season.
I think this is right. Leverkusen lost to Leipzig so they can not go whole season without losing game. They do not seem as good as they were last season. They still have chance to win league but they have not been playing well lately.

Bayern Munich and Dortmund are looking stronger and have more chances to win. Unless Leverkusen gets a lot better it is hard to see them winning. There is still a lot of season left and things can change but right now it does not look like Leverkusen will win.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on September 12, 2024, 07:33:47 AM
Yes, Leverkusen failed to keep their unbeaten record because Leipzig defeated them. This season Leverkusen has no chance to finish the season with unbeaten record again. Everything looks to change in this season, Leverkusen is no longer as strong as the previous season.

It is true that they still have a chance to win Bundesliga title. It is still the beginning of the season, there are still too many matches left. But if we analyze their current performance, they look not really convincing anymore. I even consider Bayern Munich and Dortmund to be a better candidate of the champion this season.
Bayern Leverkusen unbeaten record stopped on 35 matches in Bundesliga after defeating by RB Leipzig last match, but its not problem for them keep defend the domestic league tittle because in this season just playing two matches only.
Bayern Leverkusen still strongest team right now because they have signed many top players and losing three points last match make them keep confidence for upcoming match after international break.
Leverkusen will face Hoffeinhem for next match and Xavi Alonso won't loss three points in consecutives two matches, they have motivate for getting three points on next match and keep at the top fourth standings position.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on September 12, 2024, 06:32:05 PM
Our discussion or question about Leverkusen to be able to maintain an unbeaten record in the Bundesliga is over after they suffered a defeat when facing Leipzig. Indeed, maintaining it will be much more difficult and that is what Leverkusen feels.

However, their chances of defending the title are still there and still very open for them. Now they have to learn from the defeat they received this season, they must be able to use it as a spur to make them even better.
Yes, Leverkusen failed to keep their unbeaten record because Leipzig defeated them. This season Leverkusen has no chance to finish the season with unbeaten record again. Everything looks to change in this season, Leverkusen is no longer as strong as the previous season.

It is true that they still have a chance to win Bundesliga title. It is still the beginning of the season, there are still too many matches left. But if we analyze their current performance, they look not really convincing anymore. I even consider Bayern Munich and Dortmund to be a better candidate of the champion this season.
At the beginning of the season they seemed to be declining, but they could improve even more as the competition progresses, because usually they will find their best form again after playing many matches.

Xabi Alonso will also not remain silent seeing their team not being able to perform as well as before, he will definitely do something that can make his team improve even more.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on September 12, 2024, 09:00:29 PM
Odds makers seem to be thinking that Dortmund will have no troubles defeating Heidenheim, with odds (per Duelbits) being as follows:
Dortmund: x1.40
Draw: x5.0
Heidenheim: x7.50

With other betting sites paying less for Dortmund but more for Heidenheim.

I'm not sure if I agree with this sentiment. I think there's a big chance Borussia will struggle tomorrow. It's not just that Heidenheim won their first two league games and are currently leading the table, looking at their match history, including friendlies, they are on 10 wins streak including against teams like Parma or Espanyol.
Who knows, maybe betting on the underdog or on a draw could be a good value.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on September 13, 2024, 03:54:37 PM
Borussia Dortmund will host Heidenheim this week, it will be a challenging match for them because Heidenheim itself started the league quite well.

Borussia Dortmund will be the favorite team in this match, but that doesn't mean they will be able to win easily. Heidenheim will also come with the target of getting points at Borussia Dortmund's headquarters, they don't want to go home empty-handed.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on September 13, 2024, 10:55:40 PM
Borussia Dortmund will host Heidenheim this week, it will be a challenging match for them because Heidenheim itself started the league quite well.
Dortmund is cool, this time beating Heidenheim with a score of 4 - 2.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/13/B5nWT.png)

But Dortmund really dominated the match even from the beginning of the match, they had led very well. It's just that, actually Heidenheim's resistance through counter attacks was also quite good, but not too accurate and sharp for attacking and finishing for goals. This is an exciting match. Finally, for the time being Dortmund is in the first position of the Bundesliga first.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on September 13, 2024, 11:20:19 PM
Borussia Dortmund will be the favorite team in this match, but that doesn't mean they will be able to win easily. Heidenheim will also come with the target of getting points at Borussia Dortmund's headquarters, they don't want to go home empty-handed.
Dortmund scored three goals in the first half; they scored one more goal in the second half, which has started. Gamblers who bet on Dortmund to win have won their bet, just as those who bet on over 2.5 goals. Good win for Dortmund, and good three points for this game week as they start it as the league leaders pending games from Bayern and league defender Leverkusen. Bayern's away game should also be a win for them, they are looking good this season under Kompany.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on September 13, 2024, 11:48:00 PM
I expected Heidenhaim to steal some points from Borussia today but I was wrong.
Decent game by Heidenheim though, they proved they're not pushovers, they created some chances and scored twice, but that was just not enough. Dortmund was just a level above. Judging by today's performance, I expect Heidenheim to finish at the top-half of the table, but unlikely higher than 5th place.

Burussia is now a temporary leader with 7 points after 3 rounds, but will most likely be overtaken by Bayern, Leipzig, or both tomorrow.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on September 14, 2024, 10:05:35 AM
Dortmund is cool, this time beating Heidenheim with a score of 4 - 2.

But Dortmund really dominated the match even from the beginning of the match, they had led very well. It's just that, actually Heidenheim's resistance through counter attacks was also quite good, but not too accurate and sharp for attacking and finishing for goals. This is an exciting match. Finally, for the time being Dortmund is in the first position of the Bundesliga first.

In the absence of Nico  Schlotterbeck, Dortmund's defensive intelligence decreases and there are difficulties in defending long passes from the wings. Unlike usual, Adeyemi did not make a mistake in his last choices.
But overall the players played well, with only the referee having doubts. Unnecessary and inappropriate decisions.
Congrats... Sleeping at the Top of the table 8)
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on September 14, 2024, 03:56:19 PM
Borussia Dortmund will host Heidenheim this week, it will be a challenging match for them because Heidenheim itself started the league quite well.
Dortmund is cool, this time beating Heidenheim with a score of 4 - 2.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/13/B5nWT.png)

But Dortmund really dominated the match even from the beginning of the match, they had led very well. It's just that, actually Heidenheim's resistance through counter attacks was also quite good, but not too accurate and sharp for attacking and finishing for goals. This is an exciting match. Finally, for the time being Dortmund is in the first position of the Bundesliga first.
They can win this match and they can create a quick goal early in the match, it makes them more confident to continue the match. They managed to create 4 goals, and that resulted in a victory for them.

On the other hand, I see Heidenheim not faltering quickly, they can still fight even though in the end they have to lose. Indeed, the difference between them is quite visible and this is a reasonable victory for Borussia Dortmund.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on September 14, 2024, 11:43:20 PM
Dortmund is cool, this time beating Heidenheim with a score of 4 - 2.

In the absence of Nico  Schlotterbeck, Dortmund's defensive intelligence decreases and there are difficulties in defending long passes from the wings. Unlike usual, Adeyemi did not make a mistake in his last choices.
But overall the players played well, with only the referee having doubts. Unnecessary and inappropriate decisions.
Congrats... Sleeping at the Top of the table 8)
Fortunately, their squad is still very solid and their defense is not too bad, so they can still block Heidenheim's attacks quite well. But indeed, Nico Schlotterbeck is one of the CBs who is shining this time, even I have rumors that Real Madrid is interested in him. Especially since Real Madrid really needs CB. Nico Schlotterbeck's absence due to red cards will continue to the next match, he will be absent for 2 matches, right, based on the sanctions he must receive.


Anyway, finally Leverkusen also runs a great result again in this match, winning 4 - 1 from Hoffeinheim, doing big attacks and having more ball possession, This time, Leverkusen is getting better again.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on September 15, 2024, 08:05:50 AM
(https://i.ibb.co.com/RhNHwDh/Bayern.png)

Bayern is still the only perfect team in the 2024/2025 Bundesliga.

Vincent Kompany brought Bayern football back He is the first Bayern coach to win his first three Bundesliga games since Niko Kovač in 2018. What a performance.
Harry Kane scored a fantastic hat-trick and one assist for Bayern, the first hat-trick for Kane this season.
I Wish him continued success and many more goals in Germany.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on September 15, 2024, 10:01:29 AM
So all the title contenders (the top 5 teams from the previous season) delivered this round, except Leipzig, who, despite best efforts, couldn't score a goal against Union Berlin and had to split points by a goalless draw. They've won their first 2 games and are still in the top 3, so not a big deal.

Much needed win by Leverkusen, hopefully the 4-1 away win against Hoffenheim will restore their confidence and help them go back to their previous season form.

As expected, Bayern had no problems in earning points on Holstein-Kiel, but the home team made it very easy for Bayern, the horrible mistakes in defence they made were not what you'd expect from any Bundesliga team.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on September 15, 2024, 05:11:02 PM
(https://i.ibb.co.com/RhNHwDh/Bayern.png)

Bayern is still the only perfect team in the 2024/2025 Bundesliga.

Vincent Kompany brought Bayern football back He is the first Bayern coach to win his first three Bundesliga games since Niko Kovač in 2018. What a performance.
Harry Kane scored a fantastic hat-trick and one assist for Bayern, the first hat-trick for Kane this season.
I Wish him continued success and many more goals in Germany.
I think don't rush to say that, because this is just the beginning and the competition is still very long. Indeed they now look more ready, but that doesn't mean they will remain the same, although I hope they can be consistent throughout the season.

Vincent Kompany brings a new color to Bayern Munich's game, he wants to prove that Bayern Munich was not wrong in making the decision to appoint him as coach.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on September 17, 2024, 04:30:50 PM

Vincent Kompany brings a new color to Bayern Munich's game, he wants to prove that Bayern Munich was not wrong in making the decision to appoint him as coach.

Yep. At first, I doubted it because we all know that Vincent Kompany is the last option for Bayern, but he can prove his quality.
The way he coaches and the style of play is similar to Pep Guardiola, who has a High defensive line and when attacking 2 center backs stay in the middle of the pitch. Kimmich is a deep-lying playmaker.

Vincent Kompany will make his Champions League debut as head coach tonight. The last three coaches to make their UCL debuts with Bayern have each won it with a clean sheet.
Will he be the fourth?  Let's see...
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on September 17, 2024, 05:39:45 PM
(...)
Yep. At first, I doubted it because we all know that Vincent Kompany is the last option for Bayern, but he can prove his quality.
(...)

It's way too soon to announce Kompany's success. He didn't make any radical changes to the squad, and even without any manager on board Bayern would probably win most of their games. The key to success will be consistency in performance as well as doing well against any top 5 teams in the league.
So far, Bayern has only played 3 games against teams who either finished last season in the bottom half of the table or who only got promoted to the Bundesliga this season (Holstein-Kiel).
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: debra on September 17, 2024, 11:39:40 PM
Vincent Kompany brought Bayern football back He is the first Bayern coach to win his first three Bundesliga games since Niko Kovač in 2018. What a performance.
Harry Kane scored a fantastic hat-trick and one assist for Bayern, the first hat-trick for Kane this season.
I Wish him continued success and many more goals in Germany.
Bayern Munich played well under his management. Bayern players could score 11 goals in 3 matches. This indicates that Bayern Munich looks more productive in scoring goals. Their defense is also improved, the defenders played more solidly. The most important thing that Bayern players could play with a better confidence now.

It is true that Bayern Munich returned to their good game. And Harry Kane could play sharper again as a striker. Kompany also give all the penalty kicks to Harry Kane. I think Kompany is trying to improve the mentality of Harry Kane as the machine goal of Bayern Munich this season.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on September 18, 2024, 11:23:18 AM
(...)
Yep. At first, I doubted it because we all know that Vincent Kompany is the last option for Bayern, but he can prove his quality.
(...)

It's way too soon to announce Kompany's success. He didn't make any radical changes to the squad, and even without any manager on board Bayern would probably win most of their games. The key to success will be consistency in performance as well as doing well against any top 5 teams in the league.
So far, Bayern has only played 3 games against teams who either finished last season in the bottom half of the table or who only got promoted to the Bundesliga this season (Holstein-Kiel).

Makes sense :)
I'm not a Bayern fan, and I have to admit that there's a lot about Kompany (as a coach) that I didn't know.
But the result of the UCL match against Zagreb proved that Kompany deserves appreciation, he deserves to coach a big club like Bayern.
The best part about Kompany is that he isn’t playing "for a secure the victory" nonsense. He’s playing the Bayern way and stomping out an opponent. It was truly sensational
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on September 18, 2024, 04:07:13 PM

Vincent Kompany brings a new color to Bayern Munich's game, he wants to prove that Bayern Munich was not wrong in making the decision to appoint him as coach.

Yep. At first, I doubted it because we all know that Vincent Kompany is the last option for Bayern, but he can prove his quality.
The way he coaches and the style of play is similar to Pep Guardiola, who has a High defensive line and when attacking 2 center backs stay in the middle of the pitch. Kimmich is a deep-lying playmaker.

Vincent Kompany will make his Champions League debut as head coach tonight. The last three coaches to make their UCL debuts with Bayern have each won it with a clean sheet.
Will he be the fourth?  Let's see...
I think most people would have the same doubts about Vincent Kompany, and those doubts are justified considering what happened to his previous team in the Premier League. Although he was able to get his team promoted initially, the following season he could not compete in the Premier League.

However, those doubts are slowly fading with the good performances that can be shown, hopefully this is not temporary but what is shown now is something that can really be maintained.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on September 18, 2024, 11:24:10 PM
I think most people would have the same doubts about Vincent Kompany, and those doubts are justified considering what happened to his previous team in the Premier League. Although he was able to get his team promoted initially, the following season he could not compete in the Premier League.
Right indeed, even now there are still many comments that doubt Kompany's quality as Bayern Munich. Do you know the reason?
1. Because it is considered that he has only won a few times (this doesn't make sense, Kompany is also new to the club ckckck)
2. Only weak opponents that Bayern Munich has just faced
(although this is partly true, but it is not easy for a new coach to make the club and the entire squad play optimally, just look at how Bayern Munich often slaughters its opponents mercilessly with a large number of goals), this is not easy.

Therefore, the only thing is let's them walk what they want to talk. haters will always gonna hate.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on September 19, 2024, 05:08:09 PM
I think most people would have the same doubts about Vincent Kompany, and those doubts are justified considering what happened to his previous team in the Premier League. Although he was able to get his team promoted initially, the following season he could not compete in the Premier League.
Right indeed, even now there are still many comments that doubt Kompany's quality as Bayern Munich. Do you know the reason?
1. Because it is considered that he has only won a few times (this doesn't make sense, Kompany is also new to the club ckckck)
2. Only weak opponents that Bayern Munich has just faced
(although this is partly true, but it is not easy for a new coach to make the club and the entire squad play optimally, just look at how Bayern Munich often slaughters its opponents mercilessly with a large number of goals), this is not easy.

Therefore, the only thing is let's them walk what they want to talk. haters will always gonna hate.
The point you made is indeed happening right now, yes it is a natural thing because everything will definitely have two different views, namely a positive view and a negative view. Kompany must ensure that he has a very strong mentality to answer everything that others say, especially when criticism comes. because if he cannot withstand all the pressure that exists, then it will have an impact on the team's performance. It is not easy to handle a real team like Bayern Munich.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on September 19, 2024, 11:49:14 PM
I think most people would have the same doubts about Vincent Kompany, and those doubts are justified considering what happened to his previous team in the Premier League. Although he was able to get his team promoted initially, the following season he could not compete in the Premier League.
Right indeed, even now there are still many comments that doubt Kompany's quality as Bayern Munich. Do you know the reason?
1. Because it is considered that he has only won a few times (this doesn't make sense, Kompany is also new to the club ckckck)
2. Only weak opponents that Bayern Munich has just faced
(although this is partly true, but it is not easy for a new coach to make the club and the entire squad play optimally, just look at how Bayern Munich often slaughters its opponents mercilessly with a large number of goals), this is not easy.

Therefore, the only thing is let's them walk what they want to talk. haters will always gonna hate.
The point you made is indeed happening right now, yes it is a natural thing because everything will definitely have two different views, namely a positive view and a negative view. Kompany must ensure that he has a very strong mentality to answer everything that others say, especially when criticism comes. because if he cannot withstand all the pressure that exists, then it will have an impact on the team's performance. It is not easy to handle a real team like Bayern Munich.
Yes, surely it will always be like this, there are pros and cons, between haters and fans, even between the fans themselves. We see how the fans will worship their favorite club very highly, especially when they win. However, we can also see how the fans also curse their favorite club and even each individual player when they play badly and especially lose. Then, all the debates will happen. Even, Ancelotti, Pep, and others often get negative responses from several parties.

And we can't stop them to talk about. Now, we see how Kompany struggles to bring Bayern Munich to the first position in the Bundesliga, and bring success in the UCL. This will not be easy, of course, but let's see their team work.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on September 20, 2024, 05:29:29 PM
The point you made is indeed happening right now, yes it is a natural thing because everything will definitely have two different views, namely a positive view and a negative view. Kompany must ensure that he has a very strong mentality to answer everything that others say, especially when criticism comes. because if he cannot withstand all the pressure that exists, then it will have an impact on the team's performance. It is not easy to handle a real team like Bayern Munich.
Yes, surely it will always be like this, there are pros and cons, between haters and fans, even between the fans themselves. We see how the fans will worship their favorite club very highly, especially when they win. However, we can also see how the fans also curse their favorite club and even each individual player when they play badly and especially lose. Then, all the debates will happen. Even, Ancelotti, Pep, and others often get negative responses from several parties.

And we can't stop them to talk about. Now, we see how Kompany struggles to bring Bayern Munich to the first position in the Bundesliga, and bring success in the UCL. This will not be easy, of course, but let's see their team work.
Yes, that is a view that we will always see in football, not all will comment positively and not all will comment negatively.

Even when talking about Ancelotti, he was said to be a coach with minimal strategy, but then the comments changed after the success he managed to bring to Real Madrid. The same thing will happen again if Real Madrid play not as usual and then they will praise when Real Madrid wins the title.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on September 20, 2024, 11:53:43 PM
Any thoughts on Stuttgart Vs Dortmund this Sunday?
Looks like the biggest match in this round.
I believe Stuttgart is more than capable of winning it, despite the loss, they looked really good in their last Champions League game against Real. I'm a bit surprised that bookies share the same opinion and made Stuttgart a slight favourite, especially knowing that last season Borussia was performing equally well in away games as at home.
I think we could see a lot of goals in this one.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: alltalk on September 20, 2024, 11:59:09 PM
I'm not a Bayern fan, and I have to admit that there's a lot about Kompany (as a coach) that I didn't know.
But the result of the UCL match against Zagreb proved that Kompany deserves appreciation, he deserves to coach a big club like Bayern.
The best part about Kompany is that he isn’t playing "for a secure the victory" nonsense. He’s playing the Bayern way and stomping out an opponent. It was truly sensational
Kompany is just a new coach, it is normal if you don't know much about him. But Kompany proved that he deserves to manage Bayern Munich. Kompany doesn't only lead Bayern Munich to perform well in UCL, he also can show good results in Bundesliga matches. Just look at the Bundesliga standings, Bayern Munich is leading now.

Sure, Kompany doesn't speak a lot, but he showed with nice results. I think Kompany will be successful with Bayern Munich this season if he can maintain the good performance of Bayern Munich. So far, Kompany can manage Bayern Munich very well, they got impressive results both in UCL and domestic competition.  :)

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on September 21, 2024, 12:26:24 AM
Kompany is just a new coach, it is normal if you don't know much about him. But Kompany proved that he deserves to manage Bayern Munich. Kompany doesn't only lead Bayern Munich to perform well in UCL, he also can show good results in Bundesliga matches. Just look at the Bundesliga standings, Bayern Munich is leading now.

He hasn't proven anything yet. Winning a few games against underdogs is not enough to call it a success. And they took a big gamble by hiring him given his lack of experience in managing top-level teams.
As I said before, Bayern would win most of their games with any manager or even without one. It's not like all of a sudden they would forget how to play football.
The difficult part is to stay consistent throughout the season and perform well against higher-ranked teams, especially when the season fatigue kicks in.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on September 21, 2024, 01:05:52 PM
Kompany is just a new coach, it is normal if you don't know much about him. But Kompany proved that he deserves to manage Bayern Munich. Kompany doesn't only lead Bayern Munich to perform well in UCL, he also can show good results in Bundesliga matches. Just look at the Bundesliga standings, Bayern Munich is leading now.

He hasn't proven anything yet. Winning a few games against underdogs is not enough to call it a success. And they took a big gamble by hiring him given his lack of experience in managing top-level teams.
As I said before, Bayern would win most of their games with any manager or even without one. It's not like all of a sudden they would forget how to play football.
The difficult part is to stay consistent throughout the season and perform well against higher-ranked teams, especially when the season fatigue kicks in.

We know Bayern is the dominant team in the Bundesliga but their stranglehold just got broken last season.
This season the management gambled by appointing Vincent Kompany as coach, and Kompany quickly told people something to prove a point.
Bayern have won all three Bundesliga matches and started their European campaign convincingly.
So the Vincent Kompany era at Bayern Munich has started well. IMO
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on September 21, 2024, 05:43:49 PM
We know Bayern is the dominant team in the Bundesliga but their stranglehold just got broken last season.
This season the management gambled by appointing Vincent Kompany as coach, and Kompany quickly told people something to prove a point.
Bayern have won all three Bundesliga matches and started their European campaign convincingly.
So the Vincent Kompany era at Bayern Munich has started well. IMO
A good start indeed for the new Bayern Munich coach who was previously doubted by many, at least what he showed in the last few matches has answered some of the doubts that some people have directed at him.

However, they should not be satisfied with what they have achieved so far, because after all the league has just started and it is still a very long journey for them until the end of the season. Not to mention the many competitions or tight schedules will be a challenge for them.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on September 21, 2024, 11:36:20 PM
However, they should not be satisfied with what they have achieved so far, because after all the league has just started and it is still a very long journey for them until the end of the season. Not to mention the many competitions or tight schedules will be a challenge for them.
Bayern Munich players are on a high morale; with the number of goals that they are scoring in each game, their confidence is high, and their only enemy at this point becomes themselves if they feel too overconfident in their abilities and underestimate opponents that they will be up against. Bayern is currently leading the Bundesliga with ease, and I do not see them losing anytime soon. As for Bayer Leverkusen's title defense, it is too early to say, but I think they will not be able to do so.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Zed0X on September 21, 2024, 11:55:04 PM
Relentless is how I describe Bayern Munich's performance against Werder Bremen. They will most likely hit a wall at some point but let's enjoy how they are playing right now. It's fun watching them as they made scoring five goals looked easy to do.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Bhigdaddyjr on September 22, 2024, 01:12:34 AM
Relentless is how I describe Bayern Munich's performance against Werder Bremen. They will most likely hit a wall at some point but let's enjoy how they are playing right now. It's fun watching them as they made scoring five goals looked easy to do.
When Bayern Munich traveled to Werder Bremen, they triumphed 5-0 with ease. FCB closed up business at the back and put on a fantastic offensive display. Bayern couldn't have produced more compelling stats, as they had 25 shots to Werder's none.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on September 22, 2024, 03:34:25 PM
However, they should not be satisfied with what they have achieved so far, because after all the league has just started and it is still a very long journey for them until the end of the season. Not to mention the many competitions or tight schedules will be a challenge for them.
Bayern Munich players are on a high morale; with the number of goals that they are scoring in each game, their confidence is high, and their only enemy at this point becomes themselves if they feel too overconfident in their abilities and underestimate opponents that they will be up against. Bayern is currently leading the Bundesliga with ease, and I do not see them losing anytime soon. As for Bayer Leverkusen's title defense, it is too early to say, but I think they will not be able to do so.
They have become a very productive team this season with the sharpness of their attackers in creating goals, it is a special credit for their performance this season. A trust that so far has been answered by Vincent Kompany with the strategy he has implemented.

If they can regain the title that was lost last season, then Vincent Kompany will start to be glanced at by other big teams. But he also has to prove it in the Champions League.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on September 22, 2024, 03:36:19 PM
When I first heard about Bayern appointing Kompany, I was highly skeptical and thought they were making a big mistake, but I'm slowly getting convinced he was the right choice.
Of course, the current team hasn't yet been tested against any of the stronger clubs, but it's hard not to be impressed by the ease with which Bayern has won all their games so far. Their current average goals scored per game is 5 (in 5 games). Kompany is clearly doing something right at least in terms of unleashing Bayern's attacking potential.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on September 23, 2024, 09:37:25 AM
When I first heard about Bayern appointing Kompany, I was highly skeptical and thought they were making a big mistake, but I'm slowly getting convinced he was the right choice.
Of course, the current team hasn't yet been tested against any of the stronger clubs, but it's hard not to be impressed by the ease with which Bayern has won all their games so far. Their current average goals scored per game is 5 (in 5 games). Kompany is clearly doing something right at least in terms of unleashing Bayern's attacking potential.

Me too. Kompany is the main man, If things stop working, it's Kompany's fault... but he has delivered. he is a good Manchester City Product.
His philosophy when defending is always the same, win the ball and keep the score, regardless of whether a defense is high or not, so far it has worked.
And the aggressiveness in attacking is very high, Bayern has scored 33 goals in 7 games under Vincent Kompany.
Can’t wait for Kompany against Flick in some weeks. Let’s see if he will pass the Barça test :)
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Bhigdaddyjr on September 23, 2024, 11:36:06 PM
When I first heard about Bayern appointing Kompany, I was highly skeptical and thought they were making a big mistake, but I'm slowly getting convinced he was the right choice.
Of course, the current team hasn't yet been tested against any of the stronger clubs, but it's hard not to be impressed by the ease with which Bayern has won all their games so far. Their current average goals scored per game is 5 (in 5 games). Kompany is clearly doing something right at least in terms of unleashing Bayern's attacking potential.

Me too. Kompany is the main man, If things stop working, it's Kompany's fault... but he has delivered. he is a good Manchester City Product.
His philosophy when defending is always the same, win the ball and keep the score, regardless of whether a defense is high or not, so far it has worked.
And the aggressiveness in attacking is very high, Bayern has scored 33 goals in 7 games under Vincent Kompany.
Can’t wait for Kompany against Flick in some weeks. Let’s see if he will pass the Barça test :)
Upon rejoining Bayern for training on Monday, Kompany demonstrated that he still possesses all of his defensive abilities. By sacrificing himself, the former captain of Manchester City cemented his place in the annals of Premier League history and reminded his teammates of the quality of center back he once possessed.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Captain Corporate on September 23, 2024, 11:38:36 PM
I think everyone doubted Kompany, me included, and I know that I will be hated for saying this but I still do not see him as accomplished, he had a few games as Bayern coach for now and they were all great but that doesn't mean that they are going to keep going great. Xabi made Bayer Leverkusen win this league, with Bayern Munich almost every coach could win, last season was a mistake but bayern is better than any team they play, winning isn't that shocking. I think the only time I would accept would be when they guarantee their title, before that I od not think that I will consider it a good season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on September 26, 2024, 12:35:02 AM
The biggest Bundesliga game is coming up this Saturday, the current leader, Bayern Vs the current champions Bayer will clash in Munich.
This will be the first big test for Vincent Kompany. Both teams are only 3 points apart in the table.
Bayern is a favourite with odds as follows:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/25/ggRiD.png)

But let's not forget that their last game ended with Leverkusen winning 3-0. This is not something to be ignored.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on September 26, 2024, 08:10:42 PM
The biggest Bundesliga game is coming up this Saturday, the current leader, Bayern Vs the current champions Bayer will clash in Munich.
This will be the first big test for Vincent Kompany. Both teams are only 3 points apart in the table.
Bayern is a favourite with odds as follows:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/25/ggRiD.png)

But let's not forget that their last game ended with Leverkusen winning 3-0. This is not something to be ignored.
This is one of the most anticipated matches of the season, which will bring together a team that has the status of a new champion and a team that has just lost the title for the first time in more than a decade.

Bayern Munich will certainly want to avenge their last season, where last season they failed to beat Leverkusen and their title had to be won. On the other hand, Leverkusen will also definitely come with a winning mission to defend the title they managed to win last season. It is quite difficult to predict this match, because both teams have the same chance to win.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: UNIVERSE on September 26, 2024, 11:39:42 PM
I think everyone doubted Kompany, me included, and I know that I will be hated for saying this but I still do not see him as accomplished, he had a few games as Bayern coach for now and they were all great but that doesn't mean that they are going to keep going great. Xabi made Bayer Leverkusen win this league, with Bayern Munich almost every coach could win, last season was a mistake but bayern is better than any team they play, winning isn't that shocking. I think the only time I would accept would be when they guarantee their title, before that I od not think that I will consider it a good season.
Everyone was doubtful with Kompany. But now, everyone begins to trust Kompany. It is normal, people may change his perspective because the change of Bayern Munich performance. It was not wrong if we doubted Kompany because he has no experience to handle a big team like Bayern Munich. But it seems Kompany can adapt well, he knows how to improve Bayern Munich well. But sure, there is no guarantee that Kompany can always bring positive results for Bayern Munich.

Xabi Alonso already proved that he has a great ability. But this is a different season, there is a different challenge. Now Leverkusen looks not as strong as the last season anymore. It will be difficult to win the title again.


Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: salad daging on September 27, 2024, 08:32:11 PM
The biggest Bundesliga game is coming up this Saturday, the current leader, Bayern Vs the current champions Bayer will clash in Munich.
This will be the first big test for Vincent Kompany. Both teams are only 3 points apart in the table.
Bayern is a favourite with odds as follows:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/25/ggRiD.png)

But let's not forget that their last game ended with Leverkusen winning 3-0. This is not something to be ignored.
I feel it will be a draw although anything can happen, and Bayern are better now than they were last season.

Last season's win was different for Leverkusen as Bayern Munich were faltering under Tuchel's coaching but now Kompany is carrying on better after seeing a few more games.

As this is my own prediction, it's still possible to bet on a draw.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on September 27, 2024, 09:29:37 PM
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/27/g0EOZ.png)

I might have made a mistake including Borussia in the parlay bet, but it seemed like a sure one. They were down 0-2 but managed to score one and they "only" need 2 more to win.
Bookies are still favouring Dortmund with x1.90 odds and beating on Bochum now, you can get x4.00.
Do you guys think betting on Bochum to carry on that lead till the final whistle is a good idea?
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: MainIbem on September 27, 2024, 09:34:04 PM
The biggest Bundesliga game is coming up this Saturday, the current leader, Bayern Vs the current champions Bayer will clash in Munich.
This will be the first big test for Vincent Kompany. Both teams are only 3 points apart in the table.
Bayern is a favourite with odds as follows:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/25/ggRiD.png)

But let's not forget that their last game ended with Leverkusen winning 3-0. This is not something to be ignored.
I feel it will be a draw although anything can happen, and Bayern are better now than they were last season.

Last season's win was different for Leverkusen as Bayern Munich were faltering under Tuchel's coaching but now Kompany is carrying on better after seeing a few more games.

As this is my own prediction, it's still possible to bet on a draw.
Football can be so surprising and that's what makes it more fun and interesting, about last season many people would be rooting for Leverkusen to win this game due to their outstanding performance last season but they've drop form this season and I believe a good number of people would pick Bayern Munich to win over Leverkusen even though they're aware that a draw is possible. Kompany's led Bayern Munich is in a great form and I'm not going to judge the game with last season performance cause this is a new season with new coach and several changes and even though you want to compare their current I don't think Leverkusen would b able to match that of Bayern Munich currently so my take is that Bayern Munich would come out victory without Leverkusen stealing any point.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Tribalchief on September 27, 2024, 09:58:18 PM
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I might have made a mistake including Borussia in the parlay bet, but it seemed like a sure one. They were down 0-2 but managed to score one and they "only" need 2 more to win.
Bookies are still favouring Dortmund with x1.90 odds and beating on Bochum now, you can get x4.00.
Do you guys think betting on Bochum to carry on that lead till the final whistle is a good idea?

I immediately joined the Dormund game when I saw this score. Dortmund have been impressive, as they've successfully equalized, after a penalty was awarded to them in the 60th minute. A brilliant one-two passes got the Bochum defense confused, which lead to the error that caused the penalty. Emre can converted it from the penalty spot to level the game. Though Bochum has been trying to match the energy of Dortmund, but Dortmund are playing so good from what I have seen so far. I think they should be more cautious with their back passes, because I saw them almost giving the ball away. Dortmund might likely take all 3 points, but let's see how it goes.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on September 27, 2024, 10:09:02 PM
The biggest Bundesliga game is coming up this Saturday, the current leader, Bayern Vs the current champions Bayer will clash in Munich.
This will be the first big test for Vincent Kompany. Both teams are only 3 points apart in the table.
Bayern is a favourite with odds as follows:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/25/ggRiD.png)

But let's not forget that their last game ended with Leverkusen winning 3-0. This is not something to be ignored.
I feel it will be a draw although anything can happen, and Bayern are better now than they were last season.

Last season's win was different for Leverkusen as Bayern Munich were faltering under Tuchel's coaching but now Kompany is carrying on better after seeing a few more games.

As this is my own prediction, it's still possible to bet on a draw.
Football can be so surprising and that's what makes it more fun and interesting, about last season many people would be rooting for Leverkusen to win this game due to their outstanding performance last season but they've drop form this season and I believe a good number of people would pick Bayern Munich to win over Leverkusen even though they're aware that a draw is possible. Kompany's led Bayern Munich is in a great form and I'm not going to judge the game with last season performance cause this is a new season with new coach and several changes and even though you want to compare their current I don't think Leverkusen would b able to match that of Bayern Munich currently so my take is that Bayern Munich would come out victory without Leverkusen stealing any point.
You cannot conclude that Bayern will get all three pounts and Leverkusen will walk home without any point. Have you forgotten that all the clubs Kompany have played are all medicre teams and I will notvuse those matches as a guarantee that Kompany will be able to win the defending Champions who won the title unbeaten. It is in this match that Kompany's skill will be tested because Leverkusen is also a strong team and Xabi was able to build something out of nothing compared to Kompany who already have great players in his team.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on September 27, 2024, 10:23:38 PM
I immediately joined the Dormund game when I saw this score. Dortmund have been impressive, as they've successfully equalized, after a penalty was awarded to them in the 60th minute. A brilliant one-two passes got the Bochum defense confused, which lead to the error that caused the penalty. Emre can converted it from the penalty spot to level the game. Though Bochum has been trying to match the energy of Dortmund, but Dortmund are playing so good from what I have seen so far. I think they should be more cautious with their back passes, because I saw them almost giving the ball away. Dortmund might likely take all 3 points, but let's see how it goes.

Guirassy and Nimecha added another two and it's now ended at 4-2.

I guess my parlay is saved after all. But it was surprising to see how accurate bookies can be in setting up the odds, I mean keeping Dortmund as a favourite despite them being down.
Lesson to be learned here, be careful when betting on live events and don't fall into a trap of betting on the leading team without watching the game. Things can change pretty quickly.

Dortmund is now only 2 points behind Bayern and 1 point above Leverkusen, but things will change tomorrow.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: bounceback on September 27, 2024, 10:52:33 PM
Guirassy and Nimecha added another two and it's now ended at 4-2.

I guess my parlay is saved after all. But it was surprising to see how accurate bookies can be in setting up the odds, I mean keeping Dortmund as a favourite despite them being down.
Lesson to be learned here, be careful when betting on live events and don't fall into a trap of betting on the leading team without watching the game. Things can change pretty quickly.

Dortmund is now only 2 points behind Bayern and 1 point above Leverkusen, but things will change tomorrow.
The victory over Bochum make Dortmund moving up to second place position standings awhile have remaining two points from Bayern Munich still have one match more for this week. Dortmund show good recovery after losing last week match from Stuttgart and the victory from Bochum make confidence keep in the Bundesliga race with Bayern Munich and Leverkusen regarding their points very close right now.
Guirassy become success recruitment in this season for Dortmund after his brace against Bochum and he have scored 3 goals of 3 matches in this season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Bhigdaddyjr on September 27, 2024, 11:33:41 PM
With a performance that summed up Dortmund's tenacity and attacking ability, Guirassy was unquestionably the game's MVP. The game was significantly changed by his two goals, but his overall performance was what really stood out. The key to Dortmund's comeback was Guirassy's ability to maintain the flow of play, connect with teammates, and pose a constant threat in the box. His second goal showed his calmness and finishing ability, while his first, a strong header just before halftime, gave the team confidence. With this double, Guirassy's tally of 46 Bundesliga goals now stands at 33, emphasizing his importance in pivotal situations.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on September 27, 2024, 11:53:44 PM
With a performance that summed up Dortmund's tenacity and attacking ability, Guirassy was unquestionably the game's MVP. The game was significantly changed by his two goals, but his overall performance was what really stood out. The key to Dortmund's comeback was Guirassy's ability to maintain the flow of play, connect with teammates, and pose a constant threat in the box.
Dortmund's victory started a good week in the Bundesliga. This time too, Guirassy really gave an extraordinary performance. He scored 2 goals for Dortmund, it was not in vain that Dortmund fought for him to buy this season.

Even though Dortmund was initially behind by 2 goals, because the shocking moment was when Bochum was able to lead by 2 goals first. even frustrated seeing the course of the match. Until finally, an epic comeback for Dortmund players. After Guirassy's opening goal in the 44th minute, they were finally able to equalize and finally turned the lead into victory.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on September 28, 2024, 08:02:24 AM
With a performance that summed up Dortmund's tenacity and attacking ability, Guirassy was unquestionably the game's MVP. The game was significantly changed by his two goals, but his overall performance was what really stood out. The key to Dortmund's comeback was Guirassy's ability to maintain the flow of play, connect with teammates, and pose a constant threat in the box.
Dortmund's victory started a good week in the Bundesliga. This time too, Guirassy really gave an extraordinary performance. He scored 2 goals for Dortmund, it was not in vain that Dortmund fought for him to buy this season.

Even though Dortmund was initially behind by 2 goals, because the shocking moment was when Bochum was able to lead by 2 goals first. even frustrated seeing the course of the match. Until finally, an epic comeback for Dortmund players. After Guirassy's opening goal in the 44th minute, they were finally able to equalize and finally turned the lead into victory.
Every season there are always players who stand out with Borussia Dortmund. We can see in this match who are the players who stand out and can have a big impact on the results that Borussia Dortmund gets in this match.

But honestly I am still quite worried about their current performance, because they have to fight harder to get the win, even at the beginning they had to be behind by 2 goals first.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: salad daging on September 28, 2024, 08:32:43 PM
Finally we see the Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen rivalry match end in a draw - score 1-1

It could be said that these two teams were evenly matched if it had to end in a draw, although the pressure was more from Bayern Munich but Leverkusen was able to score the first goal even though it could be replied to again.

A draw is probably the right result for this match.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Asiska02 on September 28, 2024, 08:40:21 PM
Finally we see the Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen rivalry match end in a draw - score 1-1

It could be said that these two teams were evenly matched if it had to end in a draw, although the pressure was more from Bayern Munich but Leverkusen was able to score the first goal even though it could be replied to again.

A draw is probably the right result for this match.

A draw was most definitely expected in this match and I was not shocked by the result either. Bayern Munich and Bayern Leverkusen are the two best teams in the Bundesliga and their fierce match today is enough reason to believe that already. This is to show how serious the title fight is going to be amongst this two teams, they are both in their best form and no one among them could prove superior over the other person. They individually have a big task ahead of them to win the title, I expect them to do their best to achieve that while waiting to meet in the second leg in the league later on.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on September 28, 2024, 08:57:24 PM
Finally we see the Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen rivalry match end in a draw - score 1-1

It could be said that these two teams were evenly matched if it had to end in a draw, although the pressure was more from Bayern Munich but Leverkusen was able to score the first goal even though it could be replied to again.

A draw is probably the right result for this match.

A draw was most definitely expected in this match and I was not shocked by the result either. Bayern Munich and Bayern Leverkusen are the two best teams in the Bundesliga and their fierce match today is enough reason to believe that already. This is to show how serious the title fight is going to be amongst this two teams, they are both in their best form and no one among them could prove superior over the other person. They individually have a big task ahead of them to win the title, I expect them to do their best to achieve that while waiting to meet in the second leg in the league later on.
Bayern was in full control of the ball from the start to the end but what surprised me was that Leverkusen was able to score first with the only first chance that they had and that was the only shot they had in the first half. Bayern was able to equalize the goal but couldn't score any other goal despite their dominance and so many shot that they took. Bayern might finally be the winner of this year's Bundesliga title because from their performance, it shows that Kompany has done a great work on the team.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: salad daging on September 28, 2024, 09:02:49 PM
Finally we see the Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen rivalry match end in a draw - score 1-1

It could be said that these two teams were evenly matched if it had to end in a draw, although the pressure was more from Bayern Munich but Leverkusen was able to score the first goal even though it could be replied to again.

A draw is probably the right result for this match.

A draw was most definitely expected in this match and I was not shocked by the result either. Bayern Munich and Bayern Leverkusen are the two best teams in the Bundesliga and their fierce match today is enough reason to believe that already. This is to show how serious the title fight is going to be amongst this two teams, they are both in their best form and no one among them could prove superior over the other person. They individually have a big task ahead of them to win the title, I expect them to do their best to achieve that while waiting to meet in the second leg in the league later on.
Yeah right this result won't be a surprise because I said before a draw is still a possibility rather than a win, they are the best team in the Bundesliga.

So far Leverkusen are still behind Bayern Munich on points because they have lost and drawn in other matches, but I'm not worried it's still a long way to go in the Bundesliga, in the future there must be a loss between them again who knows which team can beat it.

So the race will be fierce with other teams Leipzig and Dortmund.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Nheer on September 28, 2024, 09:33:26 PM
Finally we see the Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen rivalry match end in a draw - score 1-1

It could be said that these two teams were evenly matched if it had to end in a draw, although the pressure was more from Bayern Munich but Leverkusen was able to score the first goal even though it could be replied to again.

A draw is probably the right result for this match.
It was an interesting game as expected everyone wanted to see both young managers go head to head and see who would come out victorious but they both showed how good they are and the match ended as draw and there was no better result than the draw.

Bayern Munich was the home team so i expected more from them and i thought they would win the match but Leverkursen showed them that they still got it. They pressured more but couldn’t get a winning goal but they still remain the league leaders with 2 points clear Leipzig.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ALTdetectoR on September 28, 2024, 10:25:27 PM
Finally we see the Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen rivalry match end in a draw - score 1-1

It could be said that these two teams were evenly matched if it had to end in a draw, although the pressure was more from Bayern Munich but Leverkusen was able to score the first goal even though it could be replied to again.

A draw is probably the right result for this match.

Both teams are equally unwilling to lose points, and this match is seen as a decider of who is the strongest. It is therefore reasonable that Bayern Munich and Leverkusen are trying not to lose points and opting for a draw. I have to commend Leverkusen for performing very consistently, even when often pressured by Munich.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on September 28, 2024, 10:48:38 PM
But honestly I am still quite worried about their current performance, because they have to fight harder to get the win, even at the beginning they had to be behind by 2 goals first.
Dortmund were lucky to have finished that game scoring four goals and winning even after going behind in score. They will not always be lucky and be able to get a comeback in games against teams, they need to win games without struggling from behind to do it.

Bayern Munich could not get a win against Bayer Leverkusen, 1-1 was what the game ended. Two young coaches going head-to-head, Xabi against Kompany, and getting one point each. It is a better result for Bayern Munich who are have a better standing in the Bundesliga than Leverkusen.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Zed0X on September 28, 2024, 11:04:53 PM
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Bayern Munich could not get a win against Bayer Leverkusen, 1-1 was what the game ended. Two young coaches going head-to-head, Xabi against Kompany, and getting one point each. It is a better result for Bayern Munich who are have a better standing in the Bundesliga than Leverkusen.
When a team has 69% ball possession, you would expect them to have more opportunities to win and Bayern did have the better chances to make it 2-1 at least. If anything, I think this is a better result for Leverkusen. Maybe it's just luck that Leverkusen earned a point (thanks also to the post that prevented a Gnabry goal).
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: MainIbem on September 28, 2024, 11:35:04 PM

When a team has 69% ball possession, you would expect them to have more opportunities to win and Bayern did have the better chances to make it 2-1 at least. If anything, I think this is a better result for Leverkusen. Maybe it's just luck that Leverkusen earned a point (thanks also to the post that prevented a Gnabry goal).
Kompany's lead Bayern Munich is doing wonders this season, sometimes it's not good to underestimate someone, before he got signed many fans talked bad about him and how he'll be worst than the previous coach, some even said he took his former club Burnley to relegation and what more were the board expecting from him at Bayern Munich if not a worst season but then he's currently proving his critics wrong and has been unbeaten so far, even having a better performance against against Leverkusen which the previous coach couldn't do. Well, I expected a full time win from Bayern Munich but a draw against the defending champions is not a bad one moreover they were the most outstanding in the game but couldn't convert the chances they had, Leverkusen were lucky to score the opening goal and steal a point in the match.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on September 29, 2024, 01:52:46 PM
But honestly I am still quite worried about their current performance, because they have to fight harder to get the win, even at the beginning they had to be behind by 2 goals first.
Dortmund were lucky to have finished that game scoring four goals and winning even after going behind in score. They will not always be lucky and be able to get a comeback in games against teams, they need to win games without struggling from behind to do it.

Bayern Munich could not get a win against Bayer Leverkusen, 1-1 was what the game ended. Two young coaches going head-to-head, Xabi against Kompany, and getting one point each. It is a better result for Bayern Munich who are have a better standing in the Bundesliga than Leverkusen.
Well that's the problem, maybe they were lucky in this match, but they won't always get the same luck, especially when they face a team that is stronger than the opponent they faced before.

I wonder why Borussia Dortmund management doesn't want to change their habits. I understand that they also need money and do business, but it would be better if they did both things together, namely pursuing achievements and developing business.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Promocodeudo on September 29, 2024, 06:35:49 PM
We know Bayern is the dominant team in the Bundesliga but their stranglehold just got broken last season.
This season the management gambled by appointing Vincent Kompany as coach, and Kompany quickly told people something to prove a point.
Bayern have won all three Bundesliga matches and started their European campaign convincingly.
So the Vincent Kompany era at Bayern Munich has started well. IMO
A good start indeed for the new Bayern Munich coach who was previously doubted by many, at least what he showed in the last few matches has answered some of the doubts that some people have directed at him.

However, they should not be satisfied with what they have achieved so far, because after all the league has just started and it is still a very long journey for them until the end of the season. Not to mention the many competitions or tight schedules will be a challenge for them.

Sometimes this happens, when people doubt the ability of someone, such person prove beyond reasonable doubt, the coach have a good team, I think he doesn't have any reason for excuses though some managers will have such players and still not use them to achieve any positive result, Bayern is not joking this season and with the few matches they have played so far I think their performance is a topnutch, I don't think they will be finishing this season without having the bundesliga on their side because bayerleverkusen are not really playing like defending champions though is not easy but they conceive a lot and they are not really keeping up the standards of their performance last season.

Yes of course their many matches coming up in different competitions which is also a problem for may clubs not only Bayern Munich however you point is correct they should give their best to remain in the league race though I don't see it as much problem for them because this is not the first time they are facing such, I believe they are going to get right once more this season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on September 29, 2024, 08:51:07 PM
When a team has 69% ball possession, you would expect them to have more opportunities to win and Bayern did have the better chances to make it 2-1 at least. If anything, I think this is a better result for Leverkusen. Maybe it's just luck that Leverkusen earned a point (thanks also to the post that prevented a Gnabry goal).
Not important with ball possession around 69% because Bayern Munich only have 3 shots on target, I think its huge problem for Bayern Munich after impressive performance recently but facing the top team got difficulty continues the winning trend. Bayern Munich keep on the top position but remaining one point from Frankfurt and make excited for the first standings position because until 5th standings place remaining three points left.
The being draw result of Bayern Munich now not any Bundesliga teams can't defend their winning trend, now waiting only how Bayern Munich defend the unbeaten record until how many matches later.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Hyphen(-) on September 29, 2024, 11:34:05 PM
Dortmund were lucky to have finished that game scoring four goals and winning even after going behind in score. They will not always be lucky and be able to get a comeback in games against teams, they need to win games without struggling from behind to do it.

Bayern Munich could not get a win against Bayer Leverkusen, 1-1 was what the game ended. Two young coaches going head-to-head, Xabi against Kompany, and getting one point each. It is a better result for Bayern Munich who are have a better standing in the Bundesliga than Leverkusen.
Borussia Dortmund was lucky to complete the comeback in their last match; they showed some qualities of a big team and it helped them very well in the match, which is why they are able to come up in the Bundesliga table, and we can now say that they can do it this season.

Leverkusen, on the other hand, were very lucky to get one point yesterday against Bayern Munich because Vincent Kompany's side was putting much pressure on the Leverkusen defence, and despite Bayern Munich's dominance in the match, they couldn't defeat Leverkusen, but this season, I am very sure that Leverkusen will win the Bundesliga because their squad needs reinforcement, which if they don't during the January transfer window, Bayern Munch will keep dominating and they will end up winning the league.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ALTdetectoR on September 30, 2024, 01:10:41 AM
Leverkusen, on the other hand, were very lucky to get one point yesterday against Bayern Munich because Vincent Kompany's side was putting much pressure on the Leverkusen defence, and despite Bayern Munich's dominance in the match, they couldn't defeat Leverkusen, but this season, I am very sure that Leverkusen will win the Bundesliga because their squad needs reinforcement, which if they don't during the January transfer window, Bayern Munch will keep dominating and they will end up winning the league.
You might need to look at the simple differences.

Munich : Has a stronger and higher quality attacking and defensive line.

Leverkusen : They may not have an attacking line like Munich, but they have a stronger defense compared to Munich.


Well, from here you can compare and take a closer look at who deserves to lead the bundesliga. And I will answer that Munich will lead. Not Leverkusen.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Themepen on September 30, 2024, 05:09:50 AM
You might need to look at the simple differences.

Munich : Has a stronger and higher quality attacking and defensive line.

Leverkusen : They may not have an attacking line like Munich, but they have a stronger defense compared to Munich.


Well, from here you can compare and take a closer look at who deserves to lead the bundesliga. And I will answer that Munich will lead. Not Leverkusen.
Yes When we compare Munich and Leverkusen teams we see they have different strengths. Munich has strong attack and defense like you said. Leverkusen has strong defense but their attack is not as good as Munich. Looking at these differences it is easy to see why Munich will lead Bundesliga.

Their team is balanced and can score goals and defend well. This gives them advantage. Leverkusen defense is strong but if their offense struggles it can not be enough. Munich balance and quality make them best team to win Bundesliga title.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on October 01, 2024, 11:45:50 PM
With a performance that summed up Dortmund's tenacity and attacking ability, Guirassy was unquestionably the game's MVP.
Dortmund's victory started a good week in the Bundesliga. This time too, Guirassy really gave an extraordinary performance. He scored 2 goals for Dortmund, it was not in vain that Dortmund fought for him to buy this season.
Indeeed, they do well every season. And eventually they will bring out top players, and we know what will happen to them.

including currently Karim Edeyemi is also in very good form. Even in UCL, this time, he was able to get a hat trick, completing the 7 goals that Dortmund got against Celtic. Wow this is extraordinary.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 02, 2024, 12:26:53 AM
Great performance in the Champions League tonight by both, Borussia and Leverkusen. Borussia has demolished Celtic 7-1 and has moved to the 1st place of the table where they are likely to stay at least until the next round. Bayer had much more modest win, only 1-0, but over AC Milan, so definitely a big success.

I'm slightly disappointed in Stuttgart, they took a lead against Sparta Praha and dominated on the pitch, to eventually finish with only 1 point after 1-1 draw. They could do better than that.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on October 02, 2024, 09:22:24 AM

I'm slightly disappointed in Stuttgart, they took a lead against Sparta Praha and dominated on the pitch, to eventually finish with only 1 point after 1-1 draw. They could do better than that.

Stuttgart played more constructively than their opponents but lacked ideas in the final third. Only Stiller has created an artistic chance despite being weak, in the 72nd minute.
Too many selfish, and slow players. This game showed Stuttgart doesn’t belong in the Champions League….
And this is the second draw in their last two games but let's see when they are against Hoffenheim in the Bundesliga on Sunday.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 02, 2024, 03:04:37 PM
Any thoughts on the Eintracht Vs Bayern this Sunday?
Eintracht is doing surprisingly good this season with 4 wins and 1 loss (to Borussia Dortmund) which currently give them a 2nd place in the table, only 1 point behind Bayern. But that could be due to rather easy matches they played.
Does anyone think they are strong enough to have a chance of winning, or at least earning 1 point on Bayern, or do you expect Bayern's easy win?

Frankfurt did quite OK last season, finished 6th, but they were 16 points behind the 5th Borussia Dortmund, which shows there was a big gap between the top 5 and the rest of the league.

The odds are:
Frankfurt: x5.60
Draw: x5.00
Bayern: x1.46
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on October 02, 2024, 03:53:31 PM
The big match that we have been waiting for this season has happened, yes it is the match between Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen which ended with a score of 1-1. This result is a result that shows that both teams have big targets this season.

Although Bayern Munich can dominate the game, Leverkusen is good at implementing defense, so that makes it very difficult for Bayern Munich's attack line to penetrate.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 02, 2024, 06:11:38 PM
Regarding Eintracht Vs Bayern, I don't think Bayern is concerned about Eintracht overtaking them. The Frankfurt team is doing very well, but we're only 5 rounds into the season and we all know that Frankfurt will not be a top contender for winning the league. For them, finishing in the top 4 would be a great success.
Bayern's top rivals this season remain Leverkusen and Dortmund (and maaaybe Leipzig as a dark horse), both of which have a relatively easy games (at least on paper) so it's important for Bayern to win to keep the 3 points advantage over those two.

Although maybe referring to Union Berlin as an easy opponent for Dortmund is not quite fair. Union is an average team and Dortmund is not famous for their consistency, so a surprise in Berlin is not impossible.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on October 02, 2024, 06:25:22 PM
Leverkusen, on the other hand, were very lucky to get one point yesterday against Bayern Munich because Vincent Kompany's side was putting much pressure on the Leverkusen defence, and despite Bayern Munich's dominance in the match, they couldn't defeat Leverkusen, but this season, I am very sure that Leverkusen will win the Bundesliga because their squad needs reinforcement, which if they don't during the January transfer window, Bayern Munch will keep dominating and they will end up winning the league.
You might need to look at the simple differences.

Munich : Has a stronger and higher quality attacking and defensive line.

Leverkusen : They may not have an attacking line like Munich, but they have a stronger defense compared to Munich.


Well, from here you can compare and take a closer look at who deserves to lead the bundesliga. And I will answer that Munich will lead. Not Leverkusen.
Of course, we have seen that Munich is in a better side than Leverkusen to win the league because already Bayern is three points ahead of them. Bayen also is very sharp and fast with the ball whenever they have it, making it look as if Kompany made the bond between the players stronger than before. Bayern will not find it difficult in winning other clubs in the league only if there is an injury case that can decline their performance. Bayern has not been defeated in both domestic and European competition this season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on October 03, 2024, 07:48:49 PM
Of course, we have seen that Munich is in a better side than Leverkusen to win the league because already Bayern is three points ahead of them. Bayen also is very sharp and fast with the ball whenever they have it, making it look as if Kompany made the bond between the players stronger than before. Bayern will not find it difficult in winning other clubs in the league only if there is an injury case that can decline their performance. Bayern has not been defeated in both domestic and European competition this season.
A 3-point advantage is not a big advantage, especially since there are still a lot of matches this season, so they can't be calm even with the advantage they currently have.

On the other hand, Leverkusen will not remain silent, they will definitely try their best to be able to return to the top of the standings, even though it is difficult, they will definitely try to continue to get maximum points from every match they will play.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 03, 2024, 10:41:31 PM
I haven't seen the full Villa - Bayern match and looking only at the game statistics, I was of the impression that Bayern was heavily dominating the game with ball possession of 70% and a significant advantage in shots on goal and that their loss was mostly due to bad luck.
But I've just watched some highlights and it doesn't at all look like Bayern could pose that much of a threat to Villa. They had some chances but so did Villa, and, if anything, it seemed like an even game. And not to mention that Upamecano should've been sent off for that two tactical fouls he committed.

Meanwhile, Bayern's next rival, Eintracht Frankfurt, is beating Besiktas 2-0 in Istambul.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on October 04, 2024, 07:53:37 AM
I haven't seen the full Villa - Bayern match and looking only at the game statistics, I was of the impression that Bayern was heavily dominating the game with ball possession of 70% and a significant advantage in shots on goal and that their loss was mostly due to bad luck.
But I've just watched some highlights and it doesn't at all look like Bayern could pose that much of a threat to Villa. They had some chances but so did Villa, and, if anything, it seemed like an even game. And not to mention that Upamecano should've been sent off for that two tactical fouls he committed.

Meanwhile, Bayern's next rival, Eintracht Frankfurt, is beating Besiktas 2-0 in Istambul.

Bayern's honeymoon phase was stopped by Villa, full focus on the next game and I hope Kompany understands the mistakes so they can avoid them.
On Sunday Bayern will continue the away match against Frankfurt in the Bundesliga.
And I hope Coman is no longer prioritized over Musiala, Sane, or Tel
Let's see if Bayern improves, an away win will be important.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on October 05, 2024, 04:06:44 PM
There are 4 matches being played now, one of which is the match between Leverkusen vs Holstein Kiel. Leverkusen is already leading 2-0 in this match, they can even create quick goals in the 4th and 8th minutes.

They should be able to win, with the 2 goal advantage they have created, with opponents who have far below their quality, there is no reason for Leverkusen to lose full points.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 06, 2024, 12:16:36 AM
What a great day for Bayern, both of their top competitors in the race for the title lost points today.
Borussia Dortmund has lost to Union Berlin, who now has overtaken BvB and are placed 6th (BvB is 7th). And the biggest surprise of the day is Holstein Kiel, a team from the very bottom of the table (with only 1 point before today) manages to earn a point in an away game against Leverkusen, despite being down 2-0 after only 8 minutes.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on October 06, 2024, 09:22:51 AM
What a great day for Bayern, both of their top competitors in the race for the title lost points today.
Borussia Dortmund has lost to Union Berlin, who now has overtaken BvB and are placed 6th (BvB is 7th). And the biggest surprise of the day is Holstein Kiel, a team from the very bottom of the table (with only 1 point before today) manages to earn a point in an away game against Leverkusen, despite being down 2-0 after only 8 minutes.

What's going on with Leverkusen?
After not playing well against Wolfsburg, it happened again to them in this game.
Leverkusen didn't deserve any points at all. 10 minutes of football, 80 minutes of incompetence. IMO
Leverkusen didn't play smart enough after taking the lead, They seemed to underestimate their opponent.
Very bad, I'm very disappointed but I hope there are many things they can take from this game, and do better next time.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on October 06, 2024, 05:59:40 PM
The match between Frankfurt vs Bayern Munich is ongoing, Bayern Munich could take the lead first in the 15th minute, but it didn't take long for Frankfurt to equalize.

Bayern Munich dominated the match, but one chance that Frankfurt managed to create could be utilized very well. Frankfurt was forced to play defensively, it would be very difficult for them to withstand every attack, they had to focus if they didn't want to lose.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 06, 2024, 11:29:07 PM
What's going on with Leverkusen?
After not playing well against Wolfsburg, it happened again to them in this game.
Leverkusen didn't deserve any points at all. 10 minutes of football, 80 minutes of incompetence. IMO
Leverkusen didn't play smart enough after taking the lead, They seemed to underestimate their opponent.
Very bad, I'm very disappointed but I hope there are many things they can take from this game, and do better next time.

It's hard to blame them, to be honest. They played against the weakest team in the league who managed to score only one point in 5 games, and then were up 2-0 after only 8 minutes. It's almost impossible not to get overconfident in such scenario.
There's some consolation that all their main rivals (other than Leipzig) also lost points in this round: Dortmund, Bayern, and Stuttgart. So it's not like Leverkusen is the only team that underdelivered this week. A lot of bets must have been lost...
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on October 07, 2024, 11:37:12 AM
What's going on with Leverkusen?
After not playing well against Wolfsburg, it happened again to them in this game.
Leverkusen didn't deserve any points at all. 10 minutes of football, 80 minutes of incompetence. IMO
Leverkusen didn't play smart enough after taking the lead, They seemed to underestimate their opponent.
Very bad, I'm very disappointed but I hope there are many things they can take from this game, and do better next time.

It's hard to blame them, to be honest. They played against the weakest team in the league who managed to score only one point in 5 games, and then were up 2-0 after only 8 minutes. It's almost impossible not to get overconfident in such scenario.
There's some consolation that all their main rivals (other than Leipzig) also lost points in this round: Dortmund, Bayern, and Stuttgart. So it's not like Leverkusen is the only team that underdelivered this week. A lot of bets must have been lost...

All of the bets were ruined because of poor performance from the big teams... Makes a loss of money from the gamblers.
Sometimes a match that looks very easy for a team becomes a surprise at the end, a Football mystery.

Leverkusen messed up big time this weekend, Almost lost to the worst team in the league, the easiest win they can get but they sold it.
So if they will have a 2:0 lead in the next game I will turn my TV off :D
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 09, 2024, 12:19:29 AM
Do you guys think Leipzig is a serious contender for the title and could give Bayern a run for their money? Or are they not strong enough to keep it up?
They're a bit weird team, they've been doing really good in the past years and would always finish somewhere in the top, but nobody ever mentions them as a serious prospect for the league winner. They had a big away win against Leverkusen (3-2) this season and currently have the same points as Bayern, but are not doing that great in the Champions League as they've lost their first 2 games.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Captain Corporate on October 09, 2024, 12:34:44 AM
I doubt that, Leipzig is always a decent enough team, they have some good money backing them, but they can't be winners, not this season at least. Maybe in the future when they get a great team together they might, and if other teams not do so well, then there is a chance. But this season it doesn't look like a possibility. You never know in world of football obviously, it could happen or maybe not happen, we never know whats going to happen, but eventually its going to be better one way or another. We just need to make sure everything seems like its looking alright for the time being, and we can get greater results.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on October 09, 2024, 03:40:20 PM
I doubt that, Leipzig is always a decent enough team, they have some good money backing them, but they can't be winners, not this season at least. Maybe in the future when they get a great team together they might, and if other teams not do so well, then there is a chance. But this season it doesn't look like a possibility. You never know in world of football obviously, it could happen or maybe not happen, we never know whats going to happen, but eventually its going to be better one way or another. We just need to make sure everything seems like its looking alright for the time being, and we can get greater results.
Leipzig is a team that can compete at the top of the standings, but they are not strong enough to be champions. Mentality is one of the things that a team must have, without mentality they will quickly decline even though their performance is very good, the better the performance the greater the pressure.

We can see Paris Saint Germain, they actually have everything, but when they are in the Champions League they always fail. One of their shortcomings is the mentality that I see.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 09, 2024, 11:00:30 PM
I've just learned that Leipzig is currently the 3rd richest club in the Bundesliga, regardless of whether we look at the revenue generation or market value. I think if they keep finishing at the top each season, there's a chance they could overtake Borussia Dortmund for the title of Bayern's most serious rival.
So far they're doing very well in the league, but they seem to be overly focused on the defence, with only 2 goals lost in 6 games, which is a great result, but maybe shifting more towards an offensive stance would benefit them more. They've only scored 9 goals, which is much less than any other of the top clubs.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 10, 2024, 08:14:31 PM
All of the bets were ruined because of poor performance from the big teams... Makes a loss of money from the gamblers.
Sometimes a match that looks very easy for a team becomes a surprise at the end, a Football mystery.

Leverkusen messed up big time this weekend, Almost lost to the worst team in the league, the easiest win they can get but they sold it.
So if they will have a 2:0 lead in the next game I will turn my TV off :D

Yes, I know what you mean I found it quite strange that Leverkusen are like this. Now I see that teams can have a great season but they have to maintain their level. If they now drop due to their level, their performance has to adapt Sometimes Leverkusen seems devastating , and in fact they are like that, but I don't know if they get tired or careless or overconfident , but from one moment to Another things get out of hand. At this point , it can't happen anymore because any game they lose is -3 points , which they really need at the end of the Bundesliga.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on October 11, 2024, 07:52:57 AM
All of the bets were ruined because of poor performance from the big teams... Makes a loss of money from the gamblers.
Sometimes a match that looks very easy for a team becomes a surprise at the end, a Football mystery.

Leverkusen messed up big time this weekend, Almost lost to the worst team in the league, the easiest win they can get but they sold it.
So if they will have a 2:0 lead in the next game I will turn my TV off :D

Yes, I know what you mean I found it quite strange that Leverkusen are like this. Now I see that teams can have a great season but they have to maintain their level. If they now drop due to their level, their performance has to adapt Sometimes Leverkusen seems devastating , and in fact they are like that, but I don't know if they get tired or careless or overconfident , but from one moment to Another things get out of hand. At this point , it can't happen anymore because any game they lose is -3 points , which they really need at the end of the Bundesliga.

It’s been two years since Xabi Alonso managed his first game at Leverkusen, 100 games, and 3 trophies but it is just history.
The new season is a new challenge, stuck in fifth place and 3 points behind Bayern at the top of the table is a warning for them to be more focused. No more points easily.
Keeping sharp and focused in the field or the practice match!

BTW, I like the Bundesliga this season, the competition looks tighter and every team is showing significant improvement.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on October 11, 2024, 05:04:34 PM
All of the bets were ruined because of poor performance from the big teams... Makes a loss of money from the gamblers.
Sometimes a match that looks very easy for a team becomes a surprise at the end, a Football mystery.

Leverkusen messed up big time this weekend, Almost lost to the worst team in the league, the easiest win they can get but they sold it.
So if they will have a 2:0 lead in the next game I will turn my TV off :D

Yes, I know what you mean I found it quite strange that Leverkusen are like this. Now I see that teams can have a great season but they have to maintain their level. If they now drop due to their level, their performance has to adapt Sometimes Leverkusen seems devastating , and in fact they are like that, but I don't know if they get tired or careless or overconfident , but from one moment to Another things get out of hand. At this point , it can't happen anymore because any game they lose is -3 points , which they really need at the end of the Bundesliga.
It is actually not something strange when a team has to experience negative results from a match that they should have won. The result made many bettors lose because the results were far from predictions.

There has been a decline shown by Leverkusen this season, this has actually been our discussion about how they played after successfully becoming champions last season. It is not easy to maintain consistency, and Leverkusen feels that difficulty.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: UNIVERSE on October 11, 2024, 11:59:57 PM
Do you guys think Leipzig is a serious contender for the title and could give Bayern a run for their money? Or are they not strong enough to keep it up?
They're a bit weird team, they've been doing really good in the past years and would always finish somewhere in the top, but nobody ever mentions them as a serious prospect for the league winner. They had a big away win against Leverkusen (3-2) this season and currently have the same points as Bayern, but are not doing that great in the Champions League as they've lost their first 2 games.
Why not? Leipzig looks performing quite consistent in this season. Leipzig also becomes stronger with some famous players there. I think this team may have a chance to compete for the title until the end of the season.

I don't see this is a weird team, Leipzig is a part of big teams in Bundesliga. Even if people don't favor this team to be the champion, this doesn't mean Leipzig is weak team. Anyway, if they played not well in UCL, they may get difficult draws. They need to play strong teams, so they get difficulty to get points.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 12, 2024, 12:51:32 PM
Before the start of the season, I was rooting bor Leverkusen but started having doubts about whether they are capable of defending the title.
We all know the previous season was exceptional and impossible to replicate, but I still expected a better start to this season. You could justify losing points to Leipzig or Bayern, as they are the top teams, but the latest draw at home against Holstein Kiel, a team from the very bottom of the table, was particularly disappointing.

On a positive note, Leverkusen is doing really well in the Champions League, with 2 wins in the first 2 rounds (against Feyenoord and Milan). I still believe they have what it takes to defend the Bundesliga title if they manage to stabilise their performance at a high level.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on October 12, 2024, 05:21:37 PM
Before the start of the season, I was rooting bor Leverkusen but started having doubts about whether they are capable of defending the title.
We all know the previous season was exceptional and impossible to replicate, but I still expected a better start to this season. You could justify losing points to Leipzig or Bayern, as they are the top teams, but the latest draw at home against Holstein Kiel, a team from the very bottom of the table, was particularly disappointing.

On a positive note, Leverkusen is doing really well in the Champions League, with 2 wins in the first 2 rounds (against Feyenoord and Milan). I still believe they have what it takes to defend the Bundesliga title if they manage to stabilise their performance at a high level.

The Bundesliga 2024-2025 is in a very different atmosphere from the previous season.
The fans' expectations and opponents' motivation to beat Leverkusen will be greater this season, as evidenced by the several matches they have played.
The euphoria of being champions must be thrown away, and last season's spectacular winning record must be forgotten.
In several matches this season, Leverkusen did mess up but overall Leverkusen is still on the track, not special but still on the track.
And I still hope Alonso will find his secret sauce in the rest of the season, especially in defense, their defense system is problematic.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on October 13, 2024, 05:11:51 PM
Borussia Dortmund is one of the teams that I am watching in the Bundesliga, they are a team that can usually provide very tight competition for Bayern Munich, but last season they experienced a decline so that they even had to drop out of the top 4. Luckily they can still be in the Champions League because the Bundesliga quota has increased.

This season they also started with an unimpressive performance, I doubt they will be able to compete this season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 15, 2024, 01:58:46 AM
BTW, I like the Bundesliga this season, the competition looks tighter and every team is showing significant improvement.

That's how it is, and I remember very well when before many people said that the Bundesliga was getting boring, that it was very bad, that it was always Bayern, but it was not very well understood that things happened that way with that team because they were the best at that moment and that was why they won, of course then Dortmund's recovery, then Leverkusen was something that changed everything, so on a personal level things are different now, the Bundesliga already has many teams that already have the potential to win the Bundesliga, Bayern can't afford to be careless now , neither Leverkusen nor anyone else, things are better now.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on October 15, 2024, 07:04:59 PM
BTW, I like the Bundesliga this season, the competition looks tighter and every team is showing significant improvement.

That's how it is, and I remember very well when before many people said that the Bundesliga was getting boring, that it was very bad, that it was always Bayern, but it was not very well understood that things happened that way with that team because they were the best at that moment and that was why they won, of course then Dortmund's recovery, then Leverkusen was something that changed everything, so on a personal level things are different now, the Bundesliga already has many teams that already have the potential to win the Bundesliga, Bayern can't afford to be careless now , neither Leverkusen nor anyone else, things are better now.

The story of the times when Bayern so dominant is over, it is all clear in the table, the points gap between the top five is very tight.

Over the years, the Bundesliga has polished many talented players to maturity, from homegrown talents like Julian Brandt, Timo Werner, and Kai Havertz to imported talents like Christian Pulisic and Erling Haaland
And in the next few years, the Bundesliga may be able to shift the position of the Premier League as the most popular football competition in the world.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on October 15, 2024, 07:51:46 PM
BTW, I like the Bundesliga this season, the competition looks tighter and every team is showing significant improvement.

That's how it is, and I remember very well when before many people said that the Bundesliga was getting boring, that it was very bad, that it was always Bayern, but it was not very well understood that things happened that way with that team because they were the best at that moment and that was why they won, of course then Dortmund's recovery, then Leverkusen was something that changed everything, so on a personal level things are different now, the Bundesliga already has many teams that already have the potential to win the Bundesliga, Bayern can't afford to be careless now , neither Leverkusen nor anyone else, things are better now.

The story of the times when Bayern so dominant is over, it is all clear in the table, the points gap between the top five is very tight.

Over the years, the Bundesliga has polished many talented players to maturity, from homegrown talents like Julian Brandt, Timo Werner, and Kai Havertz to imported talents like Christian Pulisic and Erling Haaland
And in the next few years, the Bundesliga may be able to shift the position of the Premier League as the most popular football competition in the world.
I don't think that Bayern dominant is over because they still remain the favorite to win the league. The season is still early, and we shouldn't go into conclusion because some of these clubs might not be able to keep their consistency till the end of the season. Bundesliga will become very interesting in upcoming season because other clubs are eager to win the league like Leverkusen did last season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 15, 2024, 11:51:53 PM
Some say that Leverkusen absolutely need to win their next game against Frankfurt, but I don't think it will be a deciding one. It will still be a good test for Leverkusen to prove if they should be considered to be a serious contender in the race for the title.
But to be fair to them, Leverkusen does not play that badly at all this season, it's more that the luck was just not on their side in matches against Leipzig and Holstein-Kiel. They absolutely dominated in both of those games, but their opponents were surprisingly successful in converting the little chances they had into goals. If not for those 2 flops, Bayer would be now at the top with 16 points.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on October 18, 2024, 04:49:56 PM
Some say that Leverkusen absolutely need to win their next game against Frankfurt, but I don't think it will be a deciding one. It will still be a good test for Leverkusen to prove if they should be considered to be a serious contender in the race for the title.
But to be fair to them, Leverkusen does not play that badly at all this season, it's more that the luck was just not on their side in matches against Leipzig and Holstein-Kiel. They absolutely dominated in both of those games, but their opponents were surprisingly successful in converting the little chances they had into goals. If not for those 2 flops, Bayer would be now at the top with 16 points.
Not a decisive match but a win will make them more trusted to be able to defend the title this season. Their opponent has the status of a team that can be a threat, so a win would be very meaningful.

There has been a decline shown by Leverkusen this season, this is normal for a team. However, I still believe that Xabi Alonso will be able to bring them even better as the league progresses. The competition looks more interesting in the Bundesliga this season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Asiska02 on October 18, 2024, 06:05:35 PM
BTW, I like the Bundesliga this season, the competition looks tighter and every team is showing significant improvement.

That's how it is, and I remember very well when before many people said that the Bundesliga was getting boring, that it was very bad, that it was always Bayern, but it was not very well understood that things happened that way with that team because they were the best at that moment and that was why they won, of course then Dortmund's recovery, then Leverkusen was something that changed everything, so on a personal level things are different now, the Bundesliga already has many teams that already have the potential to win the Bundesliga, Bayern can't afford to be careless now , neither Leverkusen nor anyone else, things are better now.

Bundesliga has become very interesting since last season when everything changed, Bayern Leverkusen were the one that broke that deadlock that has been in that league. Borussia Dortmund was the team we were mostly expecting for them to make a change by winning the Bundesliga title and get the trophy from Bayern Munich. So even when Bayern Leverkusen win the title, no one expected them to go through like that, many teams most have underrated them and they were able to prove them wrong all. I have this likeness for Bundesliga now as we have many teams currently that are just performing very well in their respective games and making the league more tougher. It is not easy to say a team will win over the other one because they’re all showing good performance this season. We have about 4-5 teams now in the Bundesliga that are now potential league winners.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on October 18, 2024, 11:26:11 PM
Some say that Leverkusen absolutely need to win their next game against Frankfurt, but I don't think it will be a deciding one. It will still be a good test for Leverkusen to prove if they should be considered to be a serious contender in the race for the title.
I do not consider Leverkusen to be one of the Bundesliga contenders this season. Although they still play as they used to last season, luck is not on their side as it was last season, and Bayern, as a matter of fact, are even better this season than they were under Tuchel. I do not think any team will be able to stop Bayern Munich from winning the Bundesliga this time.

Dortmund open up this Bundesliga GW with a win over St. Pauli. Not unexpected, but it is expected they keep winning if they want to remain in the top four.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: UNIVERSE on October 19, 2024, 08:05:08 PM
I do not consider Leverkusen to be one of the Bundesliga contenders this season. Although they still play as they used to last season, luck is not on their side as it was last season, and Bayern, as a matter of fact, are even better this season than they were under Tuchel. I do not think any team will be able to stop Bayern Munich from winning the Bundesliga this time.
Bayern Munich and Leipzig look like the strongest candidates for the champion this season. However, I think we can't exclude Leverkusen and other teams to be the candidate of the champion in Bundesliga. The season is still in the beginning, there are too many remaining matches. It is not impossible that Bayern Munich and Leipzig to lose points in the next few matches. Sometimes there is a big change in the middle of the season.

Anyway, there is nothing to do with Tuchel. He isn't Bayern Munich coach anymore.  :-\

Dortmund open up this Bundesliga GW with a win over St. Pauli. Not unexpected, but it is expected they keep winning if they want to remain in the top four.
Dortmund looks improving their performance and try to play more consistent. I am sure Dortmund will return to the top 4 (UCL zone). Dortmund got 2 unexpected losses so far. I think this won't happen again in the next few matches.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on October 19, 2024, 10:12:14 PM
Bayern Munich was able to dismantle Stuttgart defense in the second half and they scored four goals to end the match. It was a terrible day for Stuttgart as they were humiliated without reserve on a clean sheet. I didn't expect much goals in this match from Bayern Munich because the first half ended in a goalless draw. Bayern continues topping the table with their outstanding performance this season. Kompany is a good coach and will bring the title back to Allianz Arena.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Zed0X on October 19, 2024, 11:10:59 PM
Bayern Munich was able to dismantle Stuttgart defense in the second half and they scored four goals to end the match. It was a terrible day for Stuttgart as they were humiliated without reserve on a clean sheet. I didn't expect much goals in this match from Bayern Munich because the first half ended in a goalless draw. Bayern continues topping the table with their outstanding performance this season. Kompany is a good coach and will bring the title back to Allianz Arena.
Kane really found a second home in Bayern didn't he? Scoring a hat-trick against a decent team in Stuttgart is no easy feat. It's interesting how the table has turned out after seven weeks with the top four only separated by one game but there's a massive difference in goals.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: salad daging on October 19, 2024, 11:33:14 PM
Bayern Munich was able to dismantle Stuttgart defense in the second half and they scored four goals to end the match. It was a terrible day for Stuttgart as they were humiliated without reserve on a clean sheet. I didn't expect much goals in this match from Bayern Munich because the first half ended in a goalless draw. Bayern continues topping the table with their outstanding performance this season. Kompany is a good coach and will bring the title back to Allianz Arena.
Kane really found a second home in Bayern didn't he? Scoring a hat-trick against a decent team in Stuttgart is no easy feat. It's interesting how the table has turned out after seven weeks with the top four only separated by one game but there's a massive difference in goals.
Harry Kane's new home has been found here, he has already started scoring goals in the Bundesliga.

Stuttgart why not in the second half with 4 goals that is the number of goals and indeed the opponent was humiliated by the host.
I think with this victory Bayern Munich is ready to fight Barcelona.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on October 19, 2024, 11:35:39 PM
I don't think that Bayern dominant is over because they still remain the favorite to win the league. The season is still early, and we shouldn't go into conclusion because some of these clubs might not be able to keep their consistency till the end of the season. Bundesliga will become very interesting in upcoming season because other clubs are eager to win the league like Leverkusen did last season.

Yes. They are still the favorites, and Bayern Munich is still strong, but this season Bayern must be ready to face a tougher challenge and consistency not only for other clubs but also for Bayern, If Kompany is not careful, last season will repeat.
The Bundesliga teams are now filled with many good teams and the competition is more difficult to predict.
And yeah this is not a bad thing, the Bundesliga finally looks more interesting.
Too much dominance from one club will make the competition uninteresting.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 19, 2024, 11:40:50 PM
No surprises in this round so far.

I was wrong to think Stuttgart would put up a good fight against Bayern. They were absolutely demolished in the second half, losing 4-0, with Kane scoring a hat trick. What's worse, Stuttgart's possession was only 34%, and they only made one shot on target (and four shots total). That's a clear sign they will not repeat the last season success when they finished in the 2nd spot.

Good performance by Leverkusen against strong Eintracht, who were placed 3rd before this round. They've won 2-1 despite a missed penalty and were clearly a dominating side. Bayer have now jumped into the 4th place and are 3 points behind Bayern.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: 36B on October 20, 2024, 10:18:48 AM
I don't think that Bayern dominant is over because they still remain the favorite to win the league. The season is still early, and we shouldn't go into conclusion because some of these clubs might not be able to keep their consistency till the end of the season. Bundesliga will become very interesting in upcoming season because other clubs are eager to win the league like Leverkusen did last season.

Yes. They are still the favorites, and Bayern Munich is still strong, but this season Bayern must be ready to face a tougher challenge and consistency not only for other clubs but also for Bayern, If Kompany is not careful, last season will repeat.
The Bundesliga teams are now filled with many good teams and the competition is more difficult to predict.
And yeah this is not a bad thing, the Bundesliga finally looks more interesting.
Too much dominance from one club will make the competition uninteresting.
Indeed, Bayern Munich is still one of the unbeatable teams in the Bundesliga right now, but this season has raised the stakes a little bit. The other teams are also improving and only maintaining the result a constant factor for any team including Bayern. Tactful as it was handling them, sometimes Kompany or any other manager, there is always the danger of last season imitation. It is good to see new strong teams appearing in the Bundesliga and all this makes the competition more interesting. It also knows that dominance within a league by one club for a longtime feels repetitive, thus more competition is the best thing to create more fun for the fans in football.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on October 20, 2024, 03:33:50 PM
No surprises in this round so far.

I was wrong to think Stuttgart would put up a good fight against Bayern. They were absolutely demolished in the second half, losing 4-0, with Kane scoring a hat trick. What's worse, Stuttgart's possession was only 34%, and they only made one shot on target (and four shots total). That's a clear sign they will not repeat the last season success when they finished in the 2nd spot.

Good performance by Leverkusen against strong Eintracht, who were placed 3rd before this round. They've won 2-1 despite a missed penalty and were clearly a dominating side. Bayer have now jumped into the 4th place and are 3 points behind Bayern.


A fair defeat and a clear mistake for Stuttgart. On the other hand, Bayern is very impressive
Kane's prime loading...  he is making it look too easy, he's coming for the crown!
And a big win for the head coach. Now to Barcelona and, as always, visit the place... :)

Well done, Xabi... Leverkusen is still on track
Three points, Robert Andrich and Victor Boniface got the job done.
It is time to rest and prepare for the Champions League but tell Boniface that he must be in there, He is always making the fans proud.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on October 20, 2024, 05:39:55 PM
Indeed, Bayern Munich is still one of the unbeatable teams in the Bundesliga right now, but this season has raised the stakes a little bit. The other teams are also improving and only maintaining the result a constant factor for any team including Bayern. Tactful as it was handling them, sometimes Kompany or any other manager, there is always the danger of last season imitation. It is good to see new strong teams appearing in the Bundesliga and all this makes the competition more interesting. It also knows that dominance within a league by one club for a longtime feels repetitive, thus more competition is the best thing to create more fun for the fans in football.
Most special with Bayern Munich indeed unbeaten until seven matches success become most productivities teams and have scored 24 goals or three goal more for each match. Unbelievable with Bayern Munich performance under Vincent Kompany although firstly many fans doubt with his reputation after Burnley as his previous team relegated to EFL Championship.
Bayern munich performance under Vincent Kompany era very impressive and playing full offensive, there are not defensive games play because success scoring above three goals every match and last match defeated Stuttgart over 4-0.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on October 20, 2024, 05:45:39 PM
Leverkusen were able to turn things around after they fell behind in the 16th minute after Frankfurt were awarded a penalty. It didn't take them long to equalize which they managed to create in the 25th minute.

In the second half they managed to turn things around in the 71st minute and that became the goal that sealed the victory for Leverkusen. Actually this was not an easy match for them, but they were able to finish it well.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: salad daging on October 20, 2024, 06:29:44 PM
Well done, Xabi... Leverkusen is still on track
Three points, Robert Andrich and Victor Boniface got the job done.
It is time to rest and prepare for the Champions League but tell Boniface that he must be in there, He is always making the fans proud.
Xabi completed a good job even though they are 3 points behind Bayern Munich it can still be caught up with many other matches.
In the Champions League Leverkusen will travel to Brest who also have 2 wins this is not an easy task even though in this match Leverkusen is the favorite.
But maybe Xabi will try his best to win it again.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on October 21, 2024, 07:54:00 AM
Well done, Xabi... Leverkusen is still on track
Three points, Robert Andrich and Victor Boniface got the job done.
It is time to rest and prepare for the Champions League but tell Boniface that he must be in there, He is always making the fans proud.
Xabi completed a good job even though they are 3 points behind Bayern Munich it can still be caught up with many other matches.
In the Champions League Leverkusen will travel to Brest who also have 2 wins this is not an easy task even though in this match Leverkusen is the favorite.
But maybe Xabi will try his best to win it again.

Yep, The fight continues and the Champions League is the dream they will chase next, Beaten in the Europa League final to Atalanta last season will be a valuable lesson.
And I don’t have much to say, it is obvious Leverkusen came to play for the win. Nothing much Brest could do.
I think Leverkusen will score first. They could win this game and Leverkusen will fight hard for a three-point
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 21, 2024, 02:20:47 PM
The story of the times when Bayern so dominant is over, it is all clear in the table, the points gap between the top five is very tight.

Over the years, the Bundesliga has polished many talented players to maturity, from homegrown talents like Julian Brandt, Timo Werner, and Kai Havertz to imported talents like Christian Pulisic and Erling Haaland
And in the next few years, the Bundesliga may be able to shift the position of the Premier League as the most popular football competition in the world.

There's no doubt about it, I think the PL is one of the strongest and highest level leagues there is because they also have a lot of sponsorship, if those sponsors leave it's likely that the level will drop, I was surprised by the Bundesliga last season, but they have to show that they are changing in the UCL, if more teams go ahead in the UCL it will start to count, as well as in the other competitions, although clearly right now I like how Bayern is playing, however I give Leverkusen and Dortmund a credible support, they are teams that really are very good.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on October 22, 2024, 03:39:02 PM

although clearly right now I like how Bayern is playing, however I give Leverkusen and Dortmund a credible support, they are teams that really are very good.

What about Leipzig and Freiburg? Leipzig is in second and Freiburg is in third place in the standings.

Leipzig will host Freiburg on Saturday. If the result is a draw or Leipzig wins and Leverkusen wins when visiting Bremen then Leverkusen will move up to third place in the standings, displacing Freiburg.
There are still several other matches in the Bundesliga on Saturday but Leipzig vs Freiburg is the most interesting to watch. IMO  And I bet Leipzig will win this match.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on October 24, 2024, 03:24:38 PM
Bayern Munich had to swallow defeat when they visited Barcelona in the continuation of the Champions League match 3, yes they had to lose with a score of 4-1, this was a painful defeat for them.

Actually their game was good, it's just that some players were not in very good condition, one of them was their goalkeeper. This was also the result that finally broke the positive record when they faced Barcelona.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on October 24, 2024, 07:35:00 PM
Bayern Munich had to swallow defeat when they visited Barcelona in the continuation of the Champions League match 3, yes they had to lose with a score of 4-1, this was a painful defeat for them.

Actually their game was good, it's just that some players were not in very good condition, one of them was their goalkeeper. This was also the result that finally broke the positive record when they faced Barcelona.

Bayern lost against Barca, Leipzig lost against Liverpool, Stuttgart won against Juventus...the most surprising thing is Leverkusen who struggled to develop their game against the small French team, Brest.
French Village Team Holds Bundesliga Champion to a Draw. lol
It seemed I expected too much from Bundesliga teams in the European competition.
The quality of their performances is not enough to compete with other big clubs.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on October 24, 2024, 08:10:49 PM
Bayern lost against Barca, Leipzig lost against Liverpool, Stuttgart won against Juventus...the most surprising thing is Leverkusen who struggled to develop their game against the small French team, Brest.
Bayern's performance in the Champions League against teams from the English league and Barcelona from Spain has not been encouraging to say that they can win the competition yet. I feel that the coach, Vincent Kompany, still needs some experience in the competition, as he is relatively new to it. They have the team that can win it but still lack that tactical brilliance against top teams from other leagues.

first thing that is achievable for Vincent Kompany now is to restore Bayern to Bundesliga glory as champions, then he can try again in the Champions League.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on October 24, 2024, 08:15:52 PM
Bayern Leverkusen has the ability to retain the title again as they still have thesame set of players that won the league title last season. And with the few matches that have been played they have shown that they can win
If they are consistent with their form they still have great chances of winning
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 24, 2024, 11:52:52 PM
A rather poor performance by the German clubs in the Champions League this week. Both Bayern and Borussia suffered high losses against Real and Barcelona respectively. Leverkusen got back from France with only one point after a 1-1 draw with Brest.
On a positive note, Stuttgart finally won their first UCL game this season, surprisingly beating Juventus 1-0 in an away game. It was not an easy win though, and the only goal was scored in 90+2minute, following a red card for Juventus player. Hopefully, that win will help them unblock their potential. They can really play decent football and could go far in the competition. Their major problem is converting chances into goals. They could've easily scored 3 or 4 goals on Tue and I don't even mean the missed penalty.

As for the Europa League, the only German team in that tournament, Eintracht Frankfurt, defeated Latvian RFS 1-0 and moved to the 6th place in the table.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on October 25, 2024, 04:15:38 PM
Bayern Munich had to swallow defeat when they visited Barcelona in the continuation of the Champions League match 3, yes they had to lose with a score of 4-1, this was a painful defeat for them.

Actually their game was good, it's just that some players were not in very good condition, one of them was their goalkeeper. This was also the result that finally broke the positive record when they faced Barcelona.

Bayern lost against Barca, Leipzig lost against Liverpool, Stuttgart won against Juventus...the most surprising thing is Leverkusen who struggled to develop their game against the small French team, Brest.
French Village Team Holds Bundesliga Champion to a Draw. lol
It seemed I expected too much from Bundesliga teams in the European competition.
The quality of their performances is not enough to compete with other big clubs.
This is very natural, because they are facing the best teams in their respective leagues, so there will be difficulties and even it will end in a crushing defeat like what Bayern Munich experienced.

Leverkusen's results were also surprising, but maybe this has something to do with their experience in big competitions like this, mentally they may not have been fully formed so that things like this happen.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on October 25, 2024, 05:25:49 PM
Bayern lost against Barca, Leipzig lost against Liverpool, Stuttgart won against Juventus...the most surprising thing is Leverkusen who struggled to develop their game against the small French team, Brest.
Bayern's performance in the Champions League against teams from the English league and Barcelona from Spain has not been encouraging to say that they can win the competition yet. I feel that the coach, Vincent Kompany, still needs some experience in the competition, as he is relatively new to it. They have the team that can win it but still lack that tactical brilliance against top teams from other leagues.

first thing that is achievable for Vincent Kompany now is to restore Bayern to Bundesliga glory as champions, then he can try again in the Champions League.

Do you mean Kompany still needs more time or he doesn't have the quality to compete in the UCL?
Bayern is a big club, and the fans always expect the coach to deliver titles. They don't care if this is his first season at the club. No more season without a title...
There have been too many setbacks in the last few weeks. It feels like a constant battle against the incoming tide. As soon as the head is above water, the next wave immediately crashes back down.
And some people still believe that Kompany is not the right skipper for Bayern.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: UNIVERSE on October 25, 2024, 11:19:22 PM
Bayern Leverkusen has the ability to retain the title again as they still have thesame set of players that won the league title last season. And with the few matches that have been played they have shown that they can win
If they are consistent with their form they still have great chances of winning
Indeed. It is not impossible that Leverkusen can win again the title of Bundesliga. But I think it will be more difficult than the previous season. You can see the position of Leverkusen now, they are in the 4th place only. Bayern Munich and Leipzig look to have a higher chance to win the trophy of Bundesliga. These teams are still unbeaten, everyone must realize that Bayern Munich and Leipzig are more superior than Leverkusen in Bundesliga this season.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 26, 2024, 12:47:34 PM
In yesterday's opening game of round 8 between Mainz and Monchengladbach we had a 1-1 draw.
The remaining games for today/tomorrow and odds are as follows:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/10/26/KIjYv.png)

I think the most interesting one is Lepzig Vs Freiburg. Both of those teams seem a bit underrated and are often not taken seriously as contenders for the title, but currently they are ranked 2nd and 3rd respectively. Leipzig is a favorite with x1.83 odds, but I think it's anyone's game. So far, Leipzig has only conceded 2 goals in 7 games, which makes them the best defence in the league, but things were not looking that great in the Champions League, i.e. they've lost 3 goals against Juventus, 2 of which were scored when Juve was down to 10 men. This proves Leipzig's defence is not always rock-solid.

The biggest favourite of this round is, of course, Bayern, who are playing against Bochum, who are at the very bottom of the table. Anything other than a high win will be a surprise.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on October 26, 2024, 01:29:25 PM
Mainz and Monchengladbach had to share points in the 8th week of the Bundesliga, they had to be satisfied with a score of 1-1 that occurred in this match. Mainz who played as the host had to lose 2 points.

In terms of the game, Mainz was actually more daring to attack, but their attacks were not very effective and many times met with dead ends. Likewise, Gladbach did not play defensively, they tried to find gaps, but that was not enough to make them win.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 28, 2024, 04:22:06 AM

The biggest favourite of this round is, of course, Bayern, who are playing against Bochum, who are at the very bottom of the table. Anything other than a high win will be a surprise.

Without a doubt my friend, for me Bayern has everything to win, however each story is different in each match, that's why we have to see the best way of what can benefit the other team, but even so I see that Bayern is way above the level, unless Kane and Muller don't play, even so Bayern have good substitutes to play, it's a fact that things should be done that way, for a bet I would fundamentally go for Bayern for what they have shown, of course in the UCL they have done very badly.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Asiska02 on October 28, 2024, 10:20:09 PM
The biggest favourite of this round is, of course, Bayern, who are playing against Bochum, who are at the very bottom of the table. Anything other than a high win will be a surprise.
Without a doubt my friend, for me Bayern has everything to win, however each story is different in each match, that's why we have to see the best way of what can benefit the other team, but even so I see that Bayern is way above the level, unless Kane and Muller don't play, even so Bayern have good substitutes to play, it's a fact that things should be done that way, for a bet I would fundamentally go for Bayern for what they have shown, of course in the UCL they have done very badly.

In the UCL and in the La Liga, those are two different competitions that needs to be well played by Bayern Munich but unfortunately they didn’t do well in their last match against Barcelona. This is not even something we can use to judge their performance in the Bundesliga. They may not be good at the champions league but they’re very much going to dominate the Bundesliga because I feel they’re most opportune there to win a trophy than they would in the Champions League. Bochum was a smaller team in quality and performance compared to them, so they didn’t have problems winning them.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Axcel777 on October 29, 2024, 03:51:59 PM
The biggest favourite of this round is, of course, Bayern, who are playing against Bochum, who are at the very bottom of the table. Anything other than a high win will be a surprise.
Without a doubt my friend, for me Bayern has everything to win, however each story is different in each match, that's why we have to see the best way of what can benefit the other team, but even so I see that Bayern is way above the level, unless Kane and Muller don't play, even so Bayern have good substitutes to play, it's a fact that things should be done that way, for a bet I would fundamentally go for Bayern for what they have shown, of course in the UCL they have done very badly.

In the UCL and in the La Liga, those are two different competitions that needs to be well played by Bayern Munich but unfortunately they didn’t do well in their last match against Barcelona. This is not even something we can use to judge their performance in the Bundesliga. They may not be good at the champions league but they’re very much going to dominate the Bundesliga because I feel they’re most opportune there to win a trophy than they would in the Champions League. Bochum was a smaller team in quality and performance compared to them, so they didn’t have problems winning them.
Although the side is struggling in the Champions League, Bayern Munich continues to play well in the Bundesliga, and the chances of tasting the title are bright. This domestic competition has made us comfortable that they will be dominant especially on teams below their standing like Bochum. Bayern sure have maintained their strength as one of the powerful teams in the Bundesliga from the current season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 29, 2024, 07:15:09 PM
Still a few days to go but this weekend is looking really interesting, with few clashes at the top:

Leverkusen Vs Stuttgart - the current champions and 2023-24 runner-ups. Stuttgart has not been super impressive recently when it comes to league games, but they can be really dangerous when they play at their 100%, as evidenced i.e. by them beating Juventus in an away game. Juventus was (and still is) unbeaten in Serie A this season and, up until the last weekend, has only lost 1 goal in 8 games.

Bayern Vs Union Berlin - Union is currently 4th and should not be underestimated. They have a really solid defence, with only 5 goals lost in league games so far (Bayern conceded 7).

Dortmund Vs Leipzig - To my surprise, Dortmund is still a favourite here despite being at the 7th place in the league while Leipzig is 2nd, and knowing that Leipzig has the best defence in the league this season, with no losses and only 3 goals lost in 8 games. Their attacking power is comparable: Dortmund scored 15 league goals, and Leipzig scored 14.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 30, 2024, 11:43:37 PM
Jurgen Klopp is facing some backlash (mostly from Dortmund fans) after accepting job position from Red Bull:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14021427/Jurgen-Klopp-responds-criticism-controversial-Red-Bull-former-Liverpool-boss-admits-didnt-consider-fan-backlash-taking-role.html
Red Bull effectively owns RB Leipzig, along with several other sports clubs. While Klopp won’t be acting as a coach, he is expected to be involved in managing these endeavors.

Today I learned that Lepizig is considered to be the most hated club in Germany, as it's seen as a symbol of commercialisation of football, after it was taken over by Red Bull, who packed a lot of money in it and moved it from 5th division to the Bundesliga. Many German fans see this as going against the country's football tradition and sport ethos.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on October 31, 2024, 04:20:09 PM
In the UCL and in the La Liga, those are two different competitions that needs to be well played by Bayern Munich but unfortunately they didn’t do well in their last match against Barcelona. This is not even something we can use to judge their performance in the Bundesliga. They may not be good at the champions league but they’re very much going to dominate the Bundesliga because I feel they’re most opportune there to win a trophy than they would in the Champions League. Bochum was a smaller team in quality and performance compared to them, so they didn’t have problems winning them.
They just got a very satisfying result in DFB, they managed to beat Mainz with a score of 4 goals without reply. Their defeat in the Champions League became a big motivation for them to be able to win again.

Actually in the Bundesliga they do not have many problems, it's just that they need to improve themselves to be more consistent than before. Because that's what made them slip up many times, especially last season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on October 31, 2024, 06:03:30 PM
Jurgen Klopp is facing some backlash (mostly from Dortmund fans) after accepting job position from Red Bull:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14021427/Jurgen-Klopp-responds-criticism-controversial-Red-Bull-former-Liverpool-boss-admits-didnt-consider-fan-backlash-taking-role.html
Red Bull effectively owns RB Leipzig, along with several other sports clubs. While Klopp won’t be acting as a coach, he is expected to be involved in managing these endeavors.

Today I learned that Lepizig is considered to be the most hated club in Germany, as it's seen as a symbol of commercialisation of football, after it was taken over by Red Bull, who packed a lot of money in it and moved it from 5th division to the Bundesliga. Many German fans see this as going against the country's football tradition and sport ethos.

Klopp really needed to get out of Liverpool ;D
Klopp said, that while his role has changed, his passion for football remains as strong as ever.
But, we know that someone doesn't have a passion for football if he works for a soccer foe like Red Bull, and his new position as Global Head of Football at Red Bull Group is part of everything wrong with the sport today. This new role doesn't suit him.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on October 31, 2024, 07:20:06 PM
Odds for all the games this weekend:

Bayer 04 Leverkusen x1.53; Draw x5.00; VfB Stuttgart x5.00
FC Bayern München x1.20; Draw x7.00; 1. FC Union Berlin x14.00
Eintracht Frankfurt x1.33; Draw x6.00; VfL Bochum 1848 x7.50
Holstein Kiel x2.66; Draw x3.50; 1. FC Heidenheim 1846 x2.57
TSG Hoffenheim x1.86; Draw x4.00; FC St. Pauli x3.80
VfL Wolfsburg x1.96; Draw x3.75; FC Augsburg x3.66
Borussia Dortmund x2.22; Draw x3.75; RB Leipzig x3.30
SC Freiburg x1.70; Draw x4.00; 1. FSV Mainz 05 x4.75
Borussia Mönchengladbach x2.10; Draw x3.75; SV Werder Bremen x3.25

We're opening this round with Leverkusen Vs Stuttgart tomorrow evening. Leverkusen are the favourite, but Stuttgart won't go easy. In the last 5 games between these two teams, we had 4 draws and one win by Leverkusen.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on November 01, 2024, 10:11:56 PM
We're opening this round with Leverkusen Vs Stuttgart tomorrow evening. Leverkusen are the favourite, but Stuttgart won't go easy. In the last 5 games between these two teams, we had 4 draws and one win by Leverkusen.
It seems the game is heading for another draw because, at the 80th minute, Leverkusen is still drawn with Stuttgart. It may be a fixture where we have late goals, but that is highly unlikely  because Leverkusen are not quite as lucky as they were last season with the undefeated record.

Bayer 04 Leverkusen x1.53; Draw x5.00; VfB Stuttgart x5.00
The odds for the draw is very good, It will be a good win for anyone who took that bet if the game ends goalless.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on November 01, 2024, 11:33:14 PM
So the only today's game between Leverkusen and Stuttgart ended with a disappointing goalless draw.
As I mentioned before, before today, 4 out of the last 5 games between those two ended up with draws, so seeing them splitting points tonight was not a surprise. The lack of goals was.

Despite the result, it's fair to say Leverkusen was a much better team. They had plenty of great chances but couldn't find the way to the net. It looks like they exhausted all their luck in the previous season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on November 02, 2024, 01:58:49 PM
So the only today's game between Leverkusen and Stuttgart ended with a disappointing goalless draw.
As I mentioned before, before today, 4 out of the last 5 games between those two ended up with draws, so seeing them splitting points tonight was not a surprise. The lack of goals was.

Despite the result, it's fair to say Leverkusen was a much better team. They had plenty of great chances but couldn't find the way to the net. It looks like they exhausted all their luck in the previous season.
Leverkusen this season has had several unsatisfactory results. Yes, they look more down this season compared to last season. Xabi Alonso must immediately evaluate everything so that they can return to their best performance.

The season is still very long so there are still many opportunities for Leverkusen to return to their best performance and compete again to defend the title they won last season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on November 02, 2024, 06:16:44 PM
The season is still very long so there are still many opportunities for Leverkusen to return to their best performance and compete again to defend the title they won last season.
With the kind of form that Harry Kane is in where he cannot stop scoring goals for Bayern, it is difficult to imagine that Bayern Leverkusen will somehow be able to overtake them because Bayern look consistent in the league this season.
Leipzig who are the closest to Bayern, will face Dortmund to try get all three points to stay in line and close proximity with Bayern. Dortmund will be playing at home, they are stronger there.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on November 03, 2024, 03:06:58 PM
The season is still very long so there are still many opportunities for Leverkusen to return to their best performance and compete again to defend the title they won last season.
With the kind of form that Harry Kane is in where he cannot stop scoring goals for Bayern, it is difficult to imagine that Bayern Leverkusen will somehow be able to overtake them because Bayern look consistent in the league this season.
Leipzig who are the closest to Bayern, will face Dortmund to try get all three points to stay in line and close proximity with Bayern. Dortmund will be playing at home, they are stronger there.
Actually it could be, because last season, if we talk about squad strength, Bayern Munich's squad was better than Leverkusen's, but Leverkusen could have better teamwork.

In contrast to this season, Leverkusen does not seem to be running like last season in teamwork. Whether it is because Xabi is approaching his strategy, or this is because his players are indeed declining. Some changes in the squad may also have an effect.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 03, 2024, 11:38:06 PM
In the UCL and in the La Liga, those are two different competitions that needs to be well played by Bayern Munich but unfortunately they didn’t do well in their last match against Barcelona. This is not even something we can use to judge their performance in the Bundesliga. They may not be good at the champions league but they’re very much going to dominate the Bundesliga because I feel they’re most opportune there to win a trophy than they would in the Champions League. Bochum was a smaller team in quality and performance compared to them, so they didn’t have problems winning them.

Yes, it is very true what you say, but it is a very good turning point for comparison, in the Bundesliga I consider that the level is not as demanding as in the UCL, however when we think about the Bundesliga there are things to resolve, like keeping the first place, not letting the teams beat them, maintaining that status that they have in Germany, therefore when we talk about changes in the formation they must be made, Barcelona already gave a warning, they beat them, that already says a lot, not any team beats you and then one is going to say that things happened fortuitously, no, changes of all kinds must be made so that it never happens again, conformism in football is an enemy of every team.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on November 05, 2024, 01:42:52 PM


In contrast to this season, Leverkusen does not seem to be running like last season in teamwork. Whether it is because Xabi is approaching his strategy, or this is because his players are indeed declining. Some changes in the squad may also have an effect.

Draws seem to be the new trend in Leverkusen :)
Leverkusen are still playing an attractive game, with dominant possession but somehow it seems like winning is something they have found very difficult to do this season.
Tomorrow Alonso is to be back at Anfield. The Champions League at Anfield. Welcome home, Alonso...
I hope he did not regret coming back, Liverpool under Slot this season has been extraordinary.
Superb performance over the weekend by Slot to come from behind and win the game when the rivals were dropping points.
Focusing on the Target and Getting Ready for a Good Game...
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on November 05, 2024, 11:45:36 PM
Leipzig Champions League campaign has been nothing but disappointment so far. Tonight, they've lost they're 4th UCL game in a row and are occupying 31st place with zero points. At least they'll be able to focus on the league.
Can't say the same about Dortmund, who earned another 3 points today by defeating Sturm Graz 1-0 with a late goal by Malen (in the 85th minute). Borussia is on a good way to advance to the next stage straight away, without playoffs.

Leverkusen got badly punished by Liverpool. The loss is not much of a surprise, as Liverpool have been playing really well recently, but I still expected Leverkusen to put up a better fight.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on November 06, 2024, 02:18:38 PM


In contrast to this season, Leverkusen does not seem to be running like last season in teamwork. Whether it is because Xabi is approaching his strategy, or this is because his players are indeed declining. Some changes in the squad may also have an effect.

Draws seem to be the new trend in Leverkusen :)
Leverkusen are still playing an attractive game, with dominant possession but somehow it seems like winning is something they have found very difficult to do this season.
Tomorrow Alonso is to be back at Anfield. The Champions League at Anfield. Welcome home, Alonso...
I hope he did not regret coming back, Liverpool under Slot this season has been extraordinary.
Superb performance over the weekend by Slot to come from behind and win the game when the rivals were dropping points.
Focusing on the Target and Getting Ready for a Good Game...
Yes, they have experienced 4 draws until the 9th week of the Bundesliga. They are indeed difficult to beat, but they are also difficult to win so they can only collect 16 points from 9 matches.

It is very unfortunate that they had to lose badly in the Champions League, Liverpool successfully embarrassed them with a score of 4 goals without reply. They could not do much in this competition and they had to go home with disappointment.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on November 06, 2024, 05:04:31 PM

It is very unfortunate that they had to lose badly in the Champions League, Liverpool successfully embarrassed them with a score of 4 goals without reply. They could not do much in this competition and they had to go home with disappointment.

It's not a surprise to me...Thanks to Slot for the transformational move that increased Liverpool's intensity. Slot's tactical flexibility resulted in a 4-0 win over Bayer Leverkusen, The players performed well under his leadership.
And the Anfield atmosphere, especially during big games. Be it a thrilling European night or a heated Premier League match, the crowd at Anfield can create a special energy that gives Liverpool players an extra boost.
Alonso walks alone...
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Asiska02 on November 06, 2024, 09:10:16 PM
Leipzig Champions League campaign has been nothing but disappointment so far. Tonight, they've lost their 4th UCL game in a row and are occupying 31st place with zero points. At least they'll be able to focus on the league.

Although Leipzig's performance in the Champions League competition this season is not really a big surprise to me because they are doing well in the Bundesliga and they won’t want to lose their current position in the Bundesliga, and not all teams are able to perform well in all competitions they are participating in, so I think they should focus more on the Bundesliga competition so they may be among the top teams for the title race. 

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Leverkusen got badly punished by Liverpool. The loss is not much of a surprise, as Liverpool have been playing really well recently, but I still expected Leverkusen to put up a better fight.

Normally, if someone expects Bayer Leverkusen to beat Liverpool, then that person should just be fooling himself, because Liverpool are far better than Leverkusen in the Champions League; they have more experience and better performance than them, so I am not surprised for the result. 
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on November 06, 2024, 11:17:59 PM
Although Leipzig's performance in the Champions League competition this season is not really a big surprise to me because they are doing well in the Bundesliga and they won’t want to lose their current position in the Bundesliga, and not all teams are able to perform well in all competitions they are participating in, so I think they should focus more on the Bundesliga competition so they may be among the top teams for the title race.

They should be able to focus on both competitions, just like other top clubs do. Champions League is the most prestigious club tournament in Europe, which could boost their finances significantly if they were successful in advancing to further rounds.

Very decent game by Bayern tonight against Benfica in the Champions league.
Things were not looking great for the Kompany's team before this round as they only had 1 win and 2 losses, but thanks to the 3 points they've earned tonight, they advanced to 17th place in the table and are 3 points away from the top 8, that would allow them to advance to the next round without having to participate in play-offs.
The 1-0 win might not look impressive, but looking at the game statistics, Bayern managed to completely neutralise the Portuguese team, which only made one shot on goal (and zero shots on target) and only had 26% possession. After conceding 4 goals from Barcelona last round, it's good to see them improving their defence.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on November 07, 2024, 01:56:26 PM

It is very unfortunate that they had to lose badly in the Champions League, Liverpool successfully embarrassed them with a score of 4 goals without reply. They could not do much in this competition and they had to go home with disappointment.

It's not a surprise to me...Thanks to Slot for the transformational move that increased Liverpool's intensity. Slot's tactical flexibility resulted in a 4-0 win over Bayer Leverkusen, The players performed well under his leadership.
And the Anfield atmosphere, especially during big games. Be it a thrilling European night or a heated Premier League match, the crowd at Anfield can create a special energy that gives Liverpool players an extra boost.
Alonso walks alone...
actually I am not surprised if they have to lose, but I am surprised by the number of goals that nested into their goal. Because from the beginning this was categorized as a fierce match, and even they were also favorites if they met last season.

Xabi must evaluate everything, he must find out the cause of why they have to experience this decline. Because they are a team that is also considered, but so far they are not as expected.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on November 07, 2024, 06:33:31 PM

It is very unfortunate that they had to lose badly in the Champions League, Liverpool successfully embarrassed them with a score of 4 goals without reply. They could not do much in this competition and they had to go home with disappointment.

It's not a surprise to me...Thanks to Slot for the transformational move that increased Liverpool's intensity. Slot's tactical flexibility resulted in a 4-0 win over Bayer Leverkusen, The players performed well under his leadership.
And the Anfield atmosphere, especially during big games. Be it a thrilling European night or a heated Premier League match, the crowd at Anfield can create a special energy that gives Liverpool players an extra boost.
Alonso walks alone...
actually I am not surprised if they have to lose, but I am surprised by the number of goals that nested into their goal. Because from the beginning this was categorized as a fierce match, and even they were also favorites if they met last season.

Xabi must evaluate everything, he must find out the cause of why they have to experience this decline. Because they are a team that is also considered, but so far they are not as expected.

I have a lot of respect for Xabi and Leverkusen, but this season they have been different. Conceded 1.56 goals per game this season, and 4th in the Bundesliga.
The 4-0 defeat is certainly very embarrassing, we don't know exactly what caused it but it will be interesting to see how Alonso handles this puzzle and finds the right solution to revive his team.
Top teams must be able to adapt and improve not only from season to season but also throughout the season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 08, 2024, 12:41:26 AM
. Bayern sure have maintained their strength as one of the powerful teams in the Bundesliga from the current season.

Without a doubt it will be like that, now in the UCL things have to change, make another type of much more aggressive strategy, so that when they face Barcelona again they don't do the same thing to them, which was quite ugly, and not only Bayern, teams like Madrid in the league also had the same thing happen to them, although they had already been like 2 and a half years without winning , so I think their victory is greater for that Reason , with Bayern better prepared it will be a challenge for the other teams, once they eliminate Barcelona things with this team will be at another level.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on November 08, 2024, 03:03:43 PM
actually I am not surprised if they have to lose, but I am surprised by the number of goals that nested into their goal. Because from the beginning this was categorized as a fierce match, and even they were also favorites if they met last season.

Xabi must evaluate everything, he must find out the cause of why they have to experience this decline. Because they are a team that is also considered, but so far they are not as expected.

I have a lot of respect for Xabi and Leverkusen, but this season they have been different. Conceded 1.56 goals per game this season, and 4th in the Bundesliga.
The 4-0 defeat is certainly very embarrassing, we don't know exactly what caused it but it will be interesting to see how Alonso handles this puzzle and finds the right solution to revive his team.
Top teams must be able to adapt and improve not only from season to season but also throughout the season.
The ups and downs of a team's performance are very common, we will always find it in any team and in any league. Even a team like Bayern Munich who is in the same league with them with years of holding the title when they have to decline then the decline occurs.

now there is still plenty of time to fix everything, it is indeed quite difficult to defend the title, but it is not impossible for them to do it as long as they can be better.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on November 08, 2024, 11:48:15 PM
The first game of matchday 10 is behind us, not much action in the Union Berlin Vs Freiburg, we had a goalless draw. It was an even game, with a slight advantage for Freiburg, who even got awarded with a penalty early in the game but failed to convert and eventually both teams split points.
Easy games for Bayern and Leverkusen tomorrow (St Pauli and Bochum respectively). The most interesting one seems to be Stuttgart Vs Eintracht. It will be a real test for the Frankfurt team, if they fail, they will likely lose their current 3rd place and will get overtaken by Leverkusen or Borussia D or both of them.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Yamzakid on November 09, 2024, 11:39:48 AM
Easy games for Bayern and Leverkusen tomorrow (St Pauli and Bochum respectively). The most interesting one seems to be Stuttgart Vs Eintracht. It will be a real test for the Frankfurt team, if they fail, they will likely lose their current 3rd place and will get overtaken by Leverkusen or Borussia D or both of them.
Under Vincent Kompany, Bayern Munich has been playing excellent football, which has helped them take the top spot in the Bundesliga table. I believe FC Bayern will have an easy game against St. Pauli today and I'm anticipating at least three goals from H.kane. I believe Bayern Munich will win easily because St. Pauli is currently positioned 15th in the league table with only 8 points and 9 games played.
Leverkusen will play against Bochum, who are now last in the league table, and with Leverkusen's performance in the Bundesliga, they will find this match very easy to win.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on November 09, 2024, 04:28:50 PM
Under Vincent Kompany, Bayern Munich has been playing excellent football, which has helped them take the top spot in the Bundesliga table. I believe FC Bayern will have an easy game against St. Pauli today and I'm anticipating at least three goals from H.kane. I believe Bayern Munich will win easily because St. Pauli is currently positioned 15th in the league table with only 8 points and 9 games played.
Leverkusen will play against Bochum, who are now last in the league table, and with Leverkusen's performance in the Bundesliga, they will find this match very easy to win.
Under Vincent Kompany era, Bayern Munich success dominance in domestic league again and recently leading the top standings position until games week 9. Until half time, Bayern Munich lead 0-1 against St Pauli and seems for second half have opportunity scoring many goals again as usually Bayern always winning over two until three goals at domestic league match.

On other match, Bayern Leverkusen lead 0-1 from Bochum and good result after bad performance last several matches and defeated by Liverpool at last match in Champion League.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on November 09, 2024, 05:42:57 PM
On other match, Bayern Leverkusen lead 0-1 from Bochum and good result after bad performance last several matches and defeated by Liverpool at last match in Champion League.

Leverkusen couldn't drive that lead till the end and the match ended up with a 1-1 draw after Cochum equalised in the 89th minute.
Something's not clicking with this team this season, if they cannot win with a team from the very bottom of the table, which, before this round, only earned ONE point in 9 games - that's a sign of a problem.
Dortmund noted an even bigger fail, as they lost to Mainz 3-1, but at least they can blame it on the red card received by Emre Can in 27th minute.

It looks like the only serious competitor for Bayern this season is Leipzig, who are playing against Monchengladbach later today.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on November 09, 2024, 07:05:10 PM
On other match, Bayern Leverkusen lead 0-1 from Bochum and good result after bad performance last several matches and defeated by Liverpool at last match in Champion League.

Leverkusen couldn't drive that lead till the end and the match ended up with a 1-1 draw after Cochum equalised in the 89th minute.
Something's not clicking with this team this season, if they cannot win with a team from the very bottom of the table, which, before this round, only earned ONE point in 9 games - that's a sign of a problem.
Lucky that Bayern will even have a competitor because in their current form, it looks like an easy ride. Xabi should have accepted a job away from Leverkusen by now to save the record he had last season. Dropping points for the 6th time this season is not the way that their supporters would have see this season to go.

Bayer Leverkusen players need to remember the importance of finishing off games and not getting relaxed at the final minutes of games from the expectation that they have won it.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on November 12, 2024, 11:00:58 PM
After the first 10 rounds, I can honestly say that things are not going as I expected before the start of the season.
Bayern doesn't disappoint, I'd even say that Kompany, considering his lack of experience in managing a top team, is doing really well.
I expected much more from Leverkusen, Dortmund and, especially, from Stuttgart.

The dark horse of this season turned out to be Eintracht Frankfurt. But, even though they defeated Stuttgart on Sunday, I'm still not convinced they represent the top level and I expect them to drop down a bit as the season progresses. But my predictions were all crap, so who knows.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on November 13, 2024, 11:56:52 AM
After the first 10 rounds, I can honestly say that things are not going as I expected before the start of the season.
Bayern doesn't disappoint, I'd even say that Kompany, considering his lack of experience in managing a top team, is doing really well.
I expected much more from Leverkusen, Dortmund and, especially, from Stuttgart.

The dark horse of this season turned out to be Eintracht Frankfurt. But, even though they defeated Stuttgart on Sunday, I'm still not convinced they represent the top level and I expect them to drop down a bit as the season progresses. But my predictions were all crap, so who knows.

Bayern is back, it's clear their dominance in the Bundesliga.
And yes, it's not what I expected either. a tight race just for second place. A boring season seems to be repeating itself...
All the amazing results achieved by Leverkusen last season seem to have evaporated without leaving a trace, Dortmund is poor, let alone Stuttgart.
The saddest thing is the appearance of Bundesliga clubs in the Europe Champion League or Europa League, they seem to have a hard time competing at the top
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on November 14, 2024, 08:52:08 PM
After the first 10 rounds, I can honestly say that things are not going as I expected before the start of the season.
Bayern doesn't disappoint, I'd even say that Kompany, considering his lack of experience in managing a top team, is doing really well.
I expected much more from Leverkusen, Dortmund and, especially, from Stuttgart.

The dark horse of this season turned out to be Eintracht Frankfurt. But, even though they defeated Stuttgart on Sunday, I'm still not convinced they represent the top level and I expect them to drop down a bit as the season progresses. But my predictions were all crap, so who knows.

Bayern is back, it's clear their dominance in the Bundesliga.
And yes, it's not what I expected either. a tight race just for second place. A boring season seems to be repeating itself...
All the amazing results achieved by Leverkusen last season seem to have evaporated without leaving a trace, Dortmund is poor, let alone Stuttgart.
The saddest thing is the appearance of Bundesliga clubs in the Europe Champion League or Europa League, they seem to have a hard time competing at the top
For a team with the strength of Bayern Munich, it is quite easy for them to return to their best performance after last season they failed to show it and it was the first time in a decade that they had to fail to defend the title.

Previously I also thought that they would be able to recover quickly, and we can see that now where they can play well. Yes, even though it is too maximal, they show positive things with the new coach.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on November 15, 2024, 04:58:42 PM
Being in 7th position is not a good sight for Borussia Dortmund. We are used to seeing them right below Bayern Munich, and previously they were also a team that was expected to be a stumbling block for Bayern Munich.

However, this season they have to fall repeatedly at the beginning of this season, it makes the trust in them decrease drastically. There needs to be an evaluation carried out by the management to discuss the future of this team.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on November 15, 2024, 05:34:25 PM
Being in 7th position is not a good sight for Borussia Dortmund. We are used to seeing them right below Bayern Munich, and previously they were also a team that was expected to be a stumbling block for Bayern Munich.

However, this season they have to fall repeatedly at the beginning of this season, it makes the trust in them decrease drastically. There needs to be an evaluation carried out by the management to discuss the future of this team.

The Special Two are now in seventh place, It's not good at all. :)

Although the players are behind Sahin, it seems his magic has not worked optimally.
During his time as Assistant Coach under Edin Terzic, he built a strong bond of trust with the squad, and the board of directors also remained supportive of Sahin, but there would be no new players in the winter, despite injury concerns.
No new players being recruited means there will be no good surprises that we can expect from Dortmund.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on November 16, 2024, 07:40:08 PM
Bayern is back, it's clear their dominance in the Bundesliga.
And yes, it's not what I expected either. a tight race just for second place. A boring season seems to be repeating itself...
All the amazing results achieved by Leverkusen last season seem to have evaporated without leaving a trace, Dortmund is poor, let alone Stuttgart.
Bayern Munich's dominance will continue in the Bundesliga even after this season likely because the only coach that has given them issues with the team he has managed which is Bayer Leverkusen, is strongly linked to Real Madrid after this season. When Xabi leaves, Leverkusen will struggle to adjust to life after him. It may take a long while before they will be able to be Bundesliga champions again because Vincent Kompany is looking like a coach that will dominate the Bundesliga with Bayern Munich again.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on November 16, 2024, 09:03:41 PM
Bayern is back, it's clear their dominance in the Bundesliga.
And yes, it's not what I expected either. a tight race just for second place. A boring season seems to be repeating itself...
All the amazing results achieved by Leverkusen last season seem to have evaporated without leaving a trace, Dortmund is poor, let alone Stuttgart.
Bayern Munich's dominance will continue in the Bundesliga even after this season likely because the only coach that has given them issues with the team he has managed which is Bayer Leverkusen, is strongly linked to Real Madrid after this season. When Xabi leaves, Leverkusen will struggle to adjust to life after him. It may take a long while before they will be able to be Bundesliga champions again because Vincent Kompany is looking like a coach that will dominate the Bundesliga with Bayern Munich again.

Yeah, all signs point to Xabi Alonso leaving Bayer Leverkusen at the end of the season and his joining Real Madrid next season is a hot rumor. Flick Ball vs. Xabi Ball is good for La Liga but bad for the Bundesliga...
The destiny of the Bundesliga seems only for Bayern, other clubs are just complements. :(
However, the season isn't over yet. After the international break, I still expect Leverkusen to bounce back, and Alonso will show that he is a great coach and deserves to be Ancelotti's successor in Madrid.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on November 16, 2024, 10:31:53 PM
Being in 7th position is not a good sight for Borussia Dortmund. We are used to seeing them right below Bayern Munich, and previously they were also a team that was expected to be a stumbling block for Bayern Munich.

However, this season they have to fall repeatedly at the beginning of this season, it makes the trust in them decrease drastically. There needs to be an evaluation carried out by the management to discuss the future of this team.

The Special Two are now in seventh place, It's not good at all. :)

Although the players are behind Sahin, it seems his magic has not worked optimally.
During his time as Assistant Coach under Edin Terzic, he built a strong bond of trust with the squad, and the board of directors also remained supportive of Sahin, but there would be no new players in the winter, despite injury concerns.
No new players being recruited means there will be no good surprises that we can expect from Dortmund.
I personally would probably give Sahin time to be in his place, even though his team's performance is currently declining. Yes, time must still be given and there are still things that can be improved. Unless their performance is very bad, maybe I will insist that Sahin must go.

Borussia Dortmund supporters are very loyal, they should be able to appreciate the loyalty of the supporters more. The easiest way is to change their habits so far.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on November 16, 2024, 10:33:11 PM
Bayern is back, it's clear their dominance in the Bundesliga.
And yes, it's not what I expected either. a tight race just for second place. A boring season seems to be repeating itself...
All the amazing results achieved by Leverkusen last season seem to have evaporated without leaving a trace, Dortmund is poor, let alone Stuttgart.
Bayern Munich's dominance will continue in the Bundesliga even after this season likely because the only coach that has given them issues with the team he has managed which is Bayer Leverkusen, is strongly linked to Real Madrid after this season. When Xabi leaves, Leverkusen will struggle to adjust to life after him. It may take a long while before they will be able to be Bundesliga champions again because Vincent Kompany is looking like a coach that will dominate the Bundesliga with Bayern Munich again.
As it is the fact that Bayern Munich has been controlling the Bundesliga for the long time now, we have to agree to the thing that every change in team and coach is capable of meaning new opportunities for the competition. The suggestion is that losing Xabi could be a problem for Bayer Leverkusen but it also could be an opportunity to really bring in new players and construct a more durable strength for the long term. However, at the same time, using the example of Vincent Kompany at Bayern Munich, we should welcome that the teams are slowly searching for a way for developing stronger to create even more interesting games in the Bundesliga. A balance competition will always produce an exciting league and it will afford all the team an equal opportunity to grow.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on November 16, 2024, 11:03:12 PM
The destiny of the Bundesliga seems only for Bayern, other clubs are just complements. :(
However, the season isn't over yet. After the international break, I still expect Leverkusen to bounce back, and Alonso will show that he is a great coach and deserves to be Ancelotti's successor in Madrid.
Bundesliga is getting tighter this season, many clubs want to compete better. But unfortunately, Leverkusen, which we expect will be Bayern Munich's toughest rival again this season, has not performed optimally so far. In fact, Leverkusen has only been able to draw several times, even from small clubs, this raises doubts about Xabi to stay at the club or leave. But if he goes to Real Madrid, is Xabi really ready to manage Real Madrid with his abilities and experience? Hmm, for now it seems like not.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on November 17, 2024, 01:58:12 PM
In week 11, Borussia Dortmund will host Freiburg. This will be a tough match for both teams, and although Borussia Dortmund will play at home, they also have the opportunity to get negative results again.

In terms of goal productivity, Borussia Dortmund is better than Freiburg. However, in terms of defense, Freiburg is better than Borussia Dortmund, so with this they both have their own advantages and disadvantages which may be the deciding factor in this match.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on November 17, 2024, 09:12:06 PM
Being in 7th position is not a good sight for Borussia Dortmund. We are used to seeing them right below Bayern Munich, and previously they were also a team that was expected to be a stumbling block for Bayern Munich.

However, this season they have to fall repeatedly at the beginning of this season, it makes the trust in them decrease drastically. There needs to be an evaluation carried out by the management to discuss the future of this team.

The Special Two are now in seventh place, It's not good at all. :)

Although the players are behind Sahin, it seems his magic has not worked optimally.
During his time as Assistant Coach under Edin Terzic, he built a strong bond of trust with the squad, and the board of directors also remained supportive of Sahin, but there would be no new players in the winter, despite injury concerns.
No new players being recruited means there will be no good surprises that we can expect from Dortmund.
I personally would probably give Sahin time to be in his place, even though his team's performance is currently declining. Yes, time must still be given and there are still things that can be improved. Unless their performance is very bad, maybe I will insist that Sahin must go.

Borussia Dortmund supporters are very loyal, they should be able to appreciate the loyalty of the supporters more. The easiest way is to change their habits so far.

There is currently no discussion about a coaching change, The board still supports Sahin but with what is on the pitch every minute I fear the next failure.
If the downturn continues and Dortmund fails this season, it will not be entirely Sahin’s fault but it will be the management’s fault for getting rid of Terzic and letting Sahin come on board.
They decided to part ways with a coach who took them to the UCL finals for Sahin.
Sahin is not experienced or good enough at this level. IMO
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on November 19, 2024, 11:55:27 PM
No big games in the Bundesliga this weekend, Bayern and Bayer have relatively easy games with teams from the bottom of the table.
I think the most interesting one is Dortmund (currently 7th) Vs Freiburg (5th). Dortmund are horribly inconsistent this season mixing really good games with a really bad ones, so I wonder how will they perform against a solid team like Freiburg.

Potentially decent odds for Leipzig, who are playing away against Hoffenheim. Leipzig's recent games were far from perfect, but if they put themselves back together, they should manage to grab 3 points. The odds for that are x2.05.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on November 20, 2024, 08:33:22 AM
There is currently no discussion about a coaching change, The board still supports Sahin but with what is on the pitch every minute I fear the next failure.
If the downturn continues and Dortmund fails this season, it will not be entirely Sahin’s fault but it will be the management’s fault for getting rid of Terzic and letting Sahin come on board.
They decided to part ways with a coach who took them to the UCL finals for Sahin.
Sahin is not experienced or good enough at this level. IMO
Ever the decision to change the coach is fraught with risk, and it is usually on the pitch that success or failure is marked. If the performance of the particular team gets lower we would have to look at it as the time when we consider the general management approach, not the scapegoat. Therefore the current coach has to be backed which also means that the future moves will have to be well thought out. Change is only possible and desirable if the change is premised on the correct direction to take and people’s determined effort to make things better.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on November 20, 2024, 12:48:51 PM
There is currently no discussion about a coaching change, The board still supports Sahin but with what is on the pitch every minute I fear the next failure.
If the downturn continues and Dortmund fails this season, it will not be entirely Sahin’s fault but it will be the management’s fault for getting rid of Terzic and letting Sahin come on board.
They decided to part ways with a coach who took them to the UCL finals for Sahin.
Sahin is not experienced or good enough at this level. IMO
Ever the decision to change the coach is fraught with risk, and it is usually on the pitch that success or failure is marked. If the performance of the particular team gets lower we would have to look at it as the time when we consider the general management approach, not the scapegoat. Therefore the current coach has to be backed which also means that the future moves will have to be well thought out. Change is only possible and desirable if the change is premised on the correct direction to take and people’s determined effort to make things better.

I know, and I agree with that but replacing a coach who has taken them to the UCL final with one with little experience is a Downgrade.
And the highlight was that Sahin often seemed too satisfied with the temporary lead when the match was still ongoing, he was too quick to make substitutions. This was seen when goalscorers Donyell Malen and Jamie Bynoe-Gittens were replaced by defender Waldemar Anton and defensive midfielder Pascal Gross early in the second half of their defeat to Madrid.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on November 20, 2024, 01:31:34 PM
I personally would probably give Sahin time to be in his place, even though his team's performance is currently declining. Yes, time must still be given and there are still things that can be improved. Unless their performance is very bad, maybe I will insist that Sahin must go.

Borussia Dortmund supporters are very loyal, they should be able to appreciate the loyalty of the supporters more. The easiest way is to change their habits so far.

There is currently no discussion about a coaching change, The board still supports Sahin but with what is on the pitch every minute I fear the next failure.
If the downturn continues and Dortmund fails this season, it will not be entirely Sahin’s fault but it will be the management’s fault for getting rid of Terzic and letting Sahin come on board.
They decided to part ways with a coach who took them to the UCL finals for Sahin.
Sahin is not experienced or good enough at this level. IMO
I see Borussia Dortmund management as a management that is not in a hurry to make a decision to fire a coach, so Sahin is still quite safe at least for now. And he might make a change when the transfer window opens.

Well, the transfer market will be one of the opportunities for them to change some players who are considered not optimal and bring in new players. But I doubt they want to spend a lot of money, because they are a team that prefers to buy players who are not too expensive.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on November 21, 2024, 04:28:18 PM
Looking at the bottom of the standings, Bochum is the only team that has yet to taste victory. They have only won 2 points from 2 draws from 10 matches they have played.

Seeing a situation like this, it is very difficult for them to rise. Because their distance from the team that is on the edge of the safe zone is also quite far. I think it will take a miracle if we want to see them improve their ranking and get out of the relegation zone.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on November 22, 2024, 06:00:12 PM
Bayern Vs Augsburg are opening round 11 this evening.
On paper, it should be a walk in the park for Bayern, they're chances of winning are estimated at 86% and Augsburg's only at 5%. But then again, the team is only as good as their last performance and in their last game, Bayern had a very modest 1-0 against St Pauli who are ranked below Augsburg in the table (currently 16th), so who knows, maybe somehow Augsburg could still a point.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on November 22, 2024, 07:33:20 PM
I personally would probably give Sahin time to be in his place, even though his team's performance is currently declining. Yes, time must still be given and there are still things that can be improved. Unless their performance is very bad, maybe I will insist that Sahin must go.

Borussia Dortmund supporters are very loyal, they should be able to appreciate the loyalty of the supporters more. The easiest way is to change their habits so far.

There is currently no discussion about a coaching change, The board still supports Sahin but with what is on the pitch every minute I fear the next failure.
If the downturn continues and Dortmund fails this season, it will not be entirely Sahin’s fault but it will be the management’s fault for getting rid of Terzic and letting Sahin come on board.
They decided to part ways with a coach who took them to the UCL finals for Sahin.
Sahin is not experienced or good enough at this level. IMO
I see Borussia Dortmund management as a management that is not in a hurry to make a decision to fire a coach, so Sahin is still quite safe at least for now. And he might make a change when the transfer window opens.

Well, the transfer market will be one of the opportunities for them to change some players who are considered not optimal and bring in new players. But I doubt they want to spend a lot of money, because they are a team that prefers to buy players who are not too expensive.

One thing is clear, the board is still standing by Sahin. However, the pressure on him continues to grow.
I know, He just started his coaching career and there’s a reason coaches like Klöpp and Ancelotti say he will be a great coach but Dortmund hasn't won the league in 12 years, only one trophy in 4 years and the fans don't like mediocrity, they have to be ambitious.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on November 22, 2024, 07:50:09 PM
Bayern Vs Augsburg are opening round 11 this evening.
On paper, it should be a walk in the park for Bayern, they're chances of winning are estimated at 86% and Augsburg's only at 5%. But then again, the team is only as good as their last performance and in their last game, Bayern had a very modest 1-0 against St Pauli who are ranked below Augsburg in the table (currently 16th), so who knows, maybe somehow Augsburg could still a point.
Augsburg might claim to be in a better position than St Pauli on the table but that doesn't mean that Bayern will stoop so low and share point with them, when this match is a good opportunity for Bayern to add extra three points to widen their point gap. I have already placed my bet on Bayern and I know that it will not be a disappointment because I am not expecting any surprise from this match.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on November 23, 2024, 11:24:53 AM
I have some mixed feelings about Bayern's performance yesterday. The 3-0 score looks great and their dominance over Augsburg was huge:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/11/23/b7w41.png)

However, similar to the game against St Pauli, Bayern seemed to struggle to use their dominance to score from an open play. The two first goals were from penalties and Kane scored the last one from an open play in the additional time, but that was when Augsburg already accepted their faith and were ready to pack it up and go home.

Well done to Kane for scoring the hat trick. He's now the sole leader in the top scorers ranking, with 3 goals advantage over Frankfurt's Marmoush.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on November 23, 2024, 01:42:36 PM
Bayern Vs Augsburg are opening round 11 this evening.
On paper, it should be a walk in the park for Bayern, they're chances of winning are estimated at 86% and Augsburg's only at 5%. But then again, the team is only as good as their last performance and in their last game, Bayern had a very modest 1-0 against St Pauli who are ranked below Augsburg in the table (currently 16th), so who knows, maybe somehow Augsburg could still a point.
Augsburg might claim to be in a better position than St Pauli on the table but that doesn't mean that Bayern will stoop so low and share point with them, when this match is a good opportunity for Bayern to add extra three points to widen their point gap. I have already placed my bet on Bayern and I know that it will not be a disappointment because I am not expecting any surprise from this match.
We need to remember that in football, results always carry an element of uncertainty. Although Bayern's performance seems superior, it is important not to rely too much on the assumption that everything will go smoothly. It is natural to support your favorite team, but managing expectations is still important so that we can take any result with more composure.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on November 23, 2024, 02:28:26 PM
Well done to Kane for scoring the hat trick. He's now the sole leader in the top scorers ranking, with 3 goals advantage over Frankfurt's Marmoush.
Harry Kane is a very consistent fellow in front of goal; every season he delivers 10+ goals for his team. Bayern will be joyful about his goal-scoring form because it will be necessary in Bayern's quest to reclaim the Bundesliga. This will be something that Harry Kane as a player will also be looking forward to.

Bayer Leverkusen will hope to win FC Heidenheim today. They have the home advantage and any result other than a win will be a dissapointment.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on November 24, 2024, 01:46:18 PM


Well done to Kane for scoring the hat trick. He's now the sole leader in the top scorers ranking, with 3 goals advantage over Frankfurt's Marmoush.

Hat-trick Harry Kane breaks Bundesliga record... 50 Bundesliga goals after just 43 games. Congrats, Harry!
Harry Kane might win a trophy, I hope the world doesn’t end before that :)
And since the defeat in Barcelona, ​​Bayern have a 17-0 aggregate and six wins without conceding.
Let’s see what they do this midweek against PSG. The exciting new chapter ahead.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on November 24, 2024, 03:54:14 PM
I see Borussia Dortmund management as a management that is not in a hurry to make a decision to fire a coach, so Sahin is still quite safe at least for now. And he might make a change when the transfer window opens.

Well, the transfer market will be one of the opportunities for them to change some players who are considered not optimal and bring in new players. But I doubt they want to spend a lot of money, because they are a team that prefers to buy players who are not too expensive.

One thing is clear, the board is still standing by Sahin. However, the pressure on him continues to grow.
I know, He just started his coaching career and there’s a reason coaches like Klöpp and Ancelotti say he will be a great coach but Dortmund hasn't won the league in 12 years, only one trophy in 4 years and the fans don't like mediocrity, they have to be ambitious.
Such pressure is inevitable, because the public who support Borussia Dortmund will demand that their coach can present the championship title or at least can show a very brilliant performance for them.

As long as the management still gives the opportunity, then during that time Sahin must be able to show that he is very worthy of receiving the opportunity. I think by showing good progress it will restore the public's trust in him.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on November 24, 2024, 11:01:03 PM


Well done to Kane for scoring the hat trick. He's now the sole leader in the top scorers ranking, with 3 goals advantage over Frankfurt's Marmoush.

Hat-trick Harry Kane breaks Bundesliga record... 50 Bundesliga goals after just 43 games. Congrats, Harry!
Harry Kane might win a trophy, I hope the world doesn’t end before that :)
And since the defeat in Barcelona, ​​Bayern have a 17-0 aggregate and six wins without conceding.
Let’s see what they do this midweek against PSG. The exciting new chapter ahead.
Yes Harry Kane is currently at his best form currently as he is scoring allot of goals this season and hitting that 50 goals mark in just his second season in the league is not easy he needs to be commended the only problem that I have is with him is that he has not won any truphy I will really want him to win the bundesliga title this year so that he can also have a trump that he can call his own when he eventually retires from football
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on November 28, 2024, 12:55:02 AM
We are having "Der Klassiker" this Saturday, Borussia Dortmund is hosting Bayern. A clash of two of the most successful and popular clubs in Germany.
Both teams have performed very well in this week's Champions League round, Dortmund has easily defeated Dinamo Zagreb 3-0, and Bayern noted a much more modest win (1-0) but over a much tougher opponent, PSG.
Borussia has not been very consistent in the league this season, mixing really good games with poor ones, that's why they are a pretty big underdog, despite playing at home.
Betting on Borussia you can get x4.33, and on Bayern, x1.68. A double chance bet on Borussia at x2.05 could be worth considering. If they play at their 100% (and given the weight of the game, they might), I can easily imagine them stealing some points from Bayern.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: bounceback on November 28, 2024, 06:27:26 AM
Yes Harry Kane is currently at his best form currently as he is scoring allot of goals this season and hitting that 50 goals mark in just his second season in the league is not easy he needs to be commended the only problem that I have is with him is that he has not won any truphy I will really want him to win the bundesliga title this year so that he can also have a trump that he can call his own when he eventually retires from football
Have reached perfect performance of Harry Kane by scoring goals for every match, but still not completed yet for his career without winning any one trophy yet after failure last season. However in this season, Bayern Munich lead the top position standings awhile and have opportunity for Harry Kane to win his first trophy.
For opportunity become top scorer in this season look not difficult for him have scored 14 goals and easily break until 30 goals in Bundesliga, Harry Kane always become top scorer every competition playing not only at Bundesliga but also have won in Premier League.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on November 29, 2024, 02:03:24 PM
Yes Harry Kane is currently at his best form currently as he is scoring allot of goals this season and hitting that 50 goals mark in just his second season in the league is not easy he needs to be commended the only problem that I have is with him is that he has not won any truphy I will really want him to win the bundesliga title this year so that he can also have a trump that he can call his own when he eventually retires from football
I have no doubts about the player when it comes to scoring goals, he is one of the best strikers I have ever seen. But as you said he has not been able to win a team title, that is the only thing we can say is lacking from him.

But that is not Kane's fault, because a team title must be won by the whole team. There is no way he can do it alone, right?
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on November 29, 2024, 05:41:56 PM
We are having "Der Klassiker" this Saturday, Borussia Dortmund is hosting Bayern. A clash of two of the most successful and popular clubs in Germany.
Both teams have performed very well in this week's Champions League round, Dortmund has easily defeated Dinamo Zagreb 3-0, and Bayern noted a much more modest win (1-0) but over a much tougher opponent, PSG.
Borussia has not been very consistent in the league this season, mixing really good games with poor ones, that's why they are a pretty big underdog, despite playing at home.
Betting on Borussia you can get x4.33, and on Bayern, x1.68. A double chance bet on Borussia at x2.05 could be worth considering. If they play at their 100% (and given the weight of the game, they might), I can easily imagine them stealing some points from Bayern.
This match is the match of the weekend in German league as the two biggest club's go tow to tow it's is class of the Titans as it promises to be an electrifying game this match will go a long way in determining who will be champion of the league title in Germany this match usually produces allot of goals so expect planty of goals from this game as Both team's has the same chance of winning the game. Bayern Munich will be the favorite going into the game as they will need this game to solidify their stay on the top of the league so player's like harry Kane has to put in their best to win this game because Dortmund is not a push over team in the German league they are also title contenders any day so this game will be exciting to watch, my prediction will be over 3.5  , Both team's to score those betting on this game should choose any of those two options
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on November 29, 2024, 11:31:18 PM
We are having "Der Klassiker" this Saturday, Borussia Dortmund is hosting Bayern. A clash of two of the most successful and popular clubs in Germany.
The big match between Dortmund vs Bayern Munich, although Dortmund is not at its top performance, but do not underestimate their ability when playing against big clubs. Their fighting spirit will be able to soar very hard and they will not easily give up like that, especially against Bayern Munich, this is also a very prestigious match and can be embarrassing and long ridicule if they lose in this match. because of that, Dortmund usually will give a pretty tough fight for this.

However, Bayern Munich will also not remain silent because after all, Bayern Munich will maintain their unbeaten record in the Bundesliga. so, this will be quite interesting to see how the fight for victory between these two clubs. but if we look at the consistency of both, I am quite sure that Kompany can bring Kane and others to win in this match vs Dortmund.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: bounceback on November 30, 2024, 04:44:40 AM
The big match between Dortmund vs Bayern Munich, although Dortmund is not at its top performance, but do not underestimate their ability when playing against big clubs. Their fighting spirit will be able to soar very hard and they will not easily give up like that, especially against Bayern Munich, this is also a very prestigious match and can be embarrassing and long ridicule if they lose in this match. because of that, Dortmund usually will give a pretty tough fight for this.

However, Bayern Munich will also not remain silent because after all, Bayern Munich will maintain their unbeaten record in the Bundesliga. so, this will be quite interesting to see how the fight for victory between these two clubs. but if we look at the consistency of both, I am quite sure that Kompany can bring Kane and others to win in this match vs Dortmund.
Classic match Dortmund vs Bayern Munich in Bundesliga this week, but in this season Dortmund have inconsistent performance and drop to 5th standings position. Difference with Bayern Munich have stable or consistent performance in domestic league and leading the top position awhile with 6 points behind Frankfurt.
Looks Bayern Munich more favorable team for defeating Dortmund because Bayern have 7 consecutives winning all competition and never defeating since loss from Barcelona in Champion League. In domestic league, Bayern Munich become the only one team still unbeaten yet and have few conceded goals than all Bundesliga teams.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on November 30, 2024, 03:36:32 PM
Union Berlin Vs Leverkusen played a match, both teams have the same desire to win the match because 3 points are very valuable points. Union Berlin acts as the host and that is an advantage for them. On the other hand, Leverkusen also wants to continue to record good results to try to defend the title they won last season. The match is in progress, Leverkusen can take an early lead, let's see who will come out as the winner in this match.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on November 30, 2024, 07:18:37 PM
The big match between Dortmund vs Bayern Munich, although Dortmund is not at its top performance, but do not underestimate their ability when playing against big clubs. Their fighting spirit will be able to soar very hard and they will not easily give up like that, especially against Bayern Munich, this is also a very prestigious match and can be embarrassing and long ridicule if they lose in this match. because of that, Dortmund usually will give a pretty tough fight for this.

However, Bayern Munich will also not remain silent because after all, Bayern Munich will maintain their unbeaten record in the Bundesliga. so, this will be quite interesting to see how the fight for victory between these two clubs. but if we look at the consistency of both, I am quite sure that Kompany can bring Kane and others to win in this match vs Dortmund.
Classic match Dortmund vs Bayern Munich in Bundesliga this week, but in this season Dortmund have inconsistent performance and drop to 5th standings position. Difference with Bayern Munich have stable or consistent performance in domestic league and leading the top position awhile with 6 points behind Frankfurt.
Looks Bayern Munich more favorable team for defeating Dortmund because Bayern have 7 consecutives winning all competition and never defeating since loss from Barcelona in Champion League. In domestic league, Bayern Munich become the only one team still unbeaten yet and have few conceded goals than all Bundesliga teams.
Class of titans Dortmund is already leading Bayern Munich by 1: 0  before the halftime mark the game is looking hot I think with the way this game is going it's any team that takes their chances at goal that will win the game, both teams are attacking minded I think Bayern can still come back to win the game , I think my prediction is going to work because the two teams are going to score
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on November 30, 2024, 07:50:25 PM
Class of titans Dortmund is already leading Bayern Munich by 1: 0  before the halftime mark the game is looking hot I think with the way this game is going it's any team that takes their chances at goal that will win the game, both teams are attacking minded I think Bayern can still come back to win the game , I think my prediction is going to work because the two teams are going to score
All the other teams in the Bundesliga with a shot at the title will be happy if Dortmund can pinch points off Bayern Munich that look like they are running away already with the league. I will hope that Dortmund try to score more goals to give them some kind of security than plan to defend the only goal they have against a Bayern side without Harry Kane who has been on a goal scoring spree. Another goal from Dortmund will take the pressure off their chest.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on November 30, 2024, 10:59:17 PM
Class of titans Dortmund is already leading Bayern Munich by 1: 0  before the halftime mark the game is looking hot I think with the way this game is going it's any team that takes their chances at goal that will win the game, both teams are attacking minded I think Bayern can still come back to win the game , I think my prediction is going to work because the two teams are going to score
All the other teams in the Bundesliga with a shot at the title will be happy if Dortmund can pinch points off Bayern Munich that look like they are running away already with the league. I will hope that Dortmund try to score more goals to give them some kind of security than plan to defend the only goal they have against a Bayern side without Harry Kane who has been on a goal scoring spree. Another goal from Dortmund will take the pressure off their chest.

One point at home, Musiala destroys the hosts' dreams
Musiala is Bayern's surplus. A gem without which there is no real game. Congratulations on today's 1-1 in Dortmund.
If we understand that Sané and Müller cannot contribute anything to Bayern's game, then Dortmund is on the right track.
Bayern will face difficult matches until the end of the year, good luck for the rest. Hopefully, Harry Kane is okay too
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on November 30, 2024, 11:34:45 PM
One point at home, Musiala destroys the hosts' dreams
Musiala is Bayern's surplus. A gem without which there is no real game. Congratulations on today's 1-1 in Dortmund.
If we understand that Sané and Müller cannot contribute anything to Bayern's game, then Dortmund is on the right track.
Bayern will face difficult matches until the end of the year, good luck for the rest. Hopefully, Harry Kane is okay too
Bayern will be hoping that for the sake of their title run, the injury of Harry Kane is not very serious that will keep him out for a very long time. One point, I guess, is better than a loss for them—not what other teams would have wanted exactly, but they will settle with that result.

The next game for Bayern Munich is against Las season winners Bayer Leverkusen. It is going to be a tough game, and not the game that Bayern Munich will particularly like to play without Harry Kane.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on November 30, 2024, 11:45:14 PM
Leipzig getting heavy beatings at their home turf from Woflsburg was not something I expected. Before that game Leipzig had one of the best defence in the league (second only to Bayern), with an average of 0.75 goals lost per game. Something went really wrong for them today and it could be a sign of a dip in a form. They got overtaken by Leverkusen who won 2-1 against Union Berlin.

The split of points in Dortmund Vs Bayern is a fair result in my opinion. The game wasn't super exciting, Bayern had an advantage throughout the whole game, but in terms of goal-scoring chances created, both teams were about equal.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on December 01, 2024, 01:58:44 AM
One point at home, Musiala destroys the hosts' dreams
Musiala is Bayern's surplus. A gem without which there is no real game. Congratulations on today's 1-1 in Dortmund.
If we understand that Sané and Müller cannot contribute anything to Bayern's game, then Dortmund is on the right track.
Bayern will face difficult matches until the end of the year, good luck for the rest. Hopefully, Harry Kane is okay too
Bayern will be hoping that for the sake of their title run, the injury of Harry Kane is not very serious that will keep him out for a very long time. One point, I guess, is better than a loss for them—not what other teams would have wanted exactly, but they will settle with that result.

The next game for Bayern Munich is against Las season winners Bayer Leverkusen. It is going to be a tough game, and not the game that Bayern Munich will particularly like to play without Harry Kane.
Bayern Munich has a very tight dependency with Harry Kane hence the absence of the star striker will definitely be a big test to the whole team. Of course, it is going to be tough to face Bayer Leverkusen without one of your important players, but Bayern have enough talent to at least give a good account of themselves as long as everyone combines well. The prospect of their joint effort on the field is a great way to counter hard moments and fans’ encouragement will help uplift the squad a lot.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on December 01, 2024, 03:39:31 PM
One point at home, Musiala destroys the hosts' dreams
Musiala is Bayern's surplus. A gem without which there is no real game. Congratulations on today's 1-1 in Dortmund.
If we understand that Sané and Müller cannot contribute anything to Bayern's game, then Dortmund is on the right track.
Bayern will face difficult matches until the end of the year, good luck for the rest. Hopefully, Harry Kane is okay too
Bayern will be hoping that for the sake of their title run, the injury of Harry Kane is not very serious that will keep him out for a very long time. One point, I guess, is better than a loss for them—not what other teams would have wanted exactly, but they will settle with that result.

The next game for Bayern Munich is against Las season winners Bayer Leverkusen. It is going to be a tough game, and not the game that Bayern Munich will particularly like to play without Harry Kane.

Harry Kane feels his injury may not be too serious but we have to wait because he has to undergo a scan and then we will know more.
And I hope Harry will get the time he needs to recover from his injury in peace.

Harry Kane is a key player for Bayern Munich, especially considering the next opponent is Leverkusen.
Harry does not only have the most goals at Bayern this season but also the most assists.
Muller would be an alternative front line but I never liked him there.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on December 01, 2024, 06:29:23 PM
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We're at the half-time of the last game of this Bundesliga round and Eintracht does not disappoint. They are leading 1-0 and if they manage to carry on this lead till the final whistle, they will reduce the gap to Bayern to 4 points.
Frankfurt has been really impressive and consistent this season, but I'm still not convinced they will maintain this high level of performance till the end of the season. I think they'll be more than satisfied if they finish in the top 4.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on December 01, 2024, 06:41:56 PM
One point at home, Musiala destroys the hosts' dreams
Musiala is Bayern's surplus. A gem without which there is no real game. Congratulations on today's 1-1 in Dortmund.
If we understand that Sané and Müller cannot contribute anything to Bayern's game, then Dortmund is on the right track.
Bayern will face difficult matches until the end of the year, good luck for the rest. Hopefully, Harry Kane is okay too
Bayern will be hoping that for the sake of their title run, the injury of Harry Kane is not very serious that will keep him out for a very long time. One point, I guess, is better than a loss for them—not what other teams would have wanted exactly, but they will settle with that result.

The next game for Bayern Munich is against Las season winners Bayer Leverkusen. It is going to be a tough game, and not the game that Bayern Munich will particularly like to play without Harry Kane.
A draw is not a bad results for the both teams they will do better going forward the match was a open match with both teams having thesame probability of winning but the game end in a draw so both teams going home with a point each, other teams will close on Bayern Munich at the top of the league table with this draw. Dortmund deserve to win this game but they allowed Bayern back into the game in the second half of the game, it a good results for the rest of the top four teams as the points difference is being cut down with this draw
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on December 01, 2024, 07:05:22 PM
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We're at the half-time of the last game of this Bundesliga round and Eintracht does not disappoint. They are leading 1-0 and if they manage to carry on this lead till the final whistle, they will reduce the gap to Bayern to 4 points.
Frankfurt has been really impressive and consistent this season, but I'm still not convinced they will maintain this high level of performance till the end of the season. I think they'll be more than satisfied if they finish in the top 4.
  With the current form of Frankfurt looks serious and mean business in the bundesliga league this year they have not lost a game for the last five matches that they have played and they are sitting pretty good in the league table, I think this game is already over with Frankfurt leading 3:0 away it's a convincing performance by Frankfurt one thing that I like about the German league is that they produce allot of games week in and out those gambling should use this league in betting over 3.5 goals and upwards as the league produces allot of goals
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on December 03, 2024, 09:57:44 AM
With the current form of Frankfurt looks serious and mean business in the bundesliga league this year they have not lost a game for the last five matches that they have played and they are sitting pretty good in the league table, I think this game is already over with Frankfurt leading 3:0 away it's a convincing performance by Frankfurt one thing that I like about the German league is that they produce allot of games week in and out those gambling should use this league in betting over 3.5 goals and upwards as the league produces allot of goals

Frankfurt won 4 - 0. There wasn't a huge gap between the two sides at the half-time break despite Frankfurt's one-goal lead but Frankfurt's took their game to another level in the second half, and Heidenheim simply couldn't keep pace.
An excellent performance from young man Nene Brown, with a 90% pass rate and three assists, he is Man of the Match in this game.
And Omar Marmoush is a new star... One of the players who will attract the attention of some top clubs in the 2025 transfer windows
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on December 03, 2024, 09:11:22 PM
20 minutes in the Bayern Vs Leverkusen DFB Pokal game and we have a red card for Bayern's goalkeeper, Manuel Neuer.
For the first 17 minutes, Bayern dominated in possession but playing with only 10 men surely will change the game and shift it in Leverkusen's favour.
Bookies updated the odds and Bayer is now favourite with odds at x2.30, Bayern's odds are x3.50. Still plenty of time to go and things might get interesting.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on December 04, 2024, 01:56:08 PM
20 minutes in the Bayern Vs Leverkusen DFB Pokal game and we have a red card for Bayern's goalkeeper, Manuel Neuer.
For the first 17 minutes, Bayern dominated in possession but playing with only 10 men surely will change the game and shift it in Leverkusen's favour.
Bookies updated the odds and Bayer is now favourite with odds at x2.30, Bayern's odds are x3.50. Still plenty of time to go and things might get interesting.

Bayern Munich fell in the last 16 of the DFB Pokal. Die Roten lost 0-1 to Bayer Leverkusen, Nathan Tella scoring in the second half.
But there was something wrong with Bayern, they lost because they did not defend well all the time. On the other hand, Bayern lacked creativity when attacking, they were toothless and uncreative even though they looked "dominant".
I can't blame Kompany entirely because the players who are said to be the leading players keep making mistakes.
Congrats to Leverkusen....
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 04, 2024, 06:45:00 PM
Such pressure is inevitable, because the public who support Borussia Dortmund will demand that their coach can present the championship title or at least can show a very brilliant performance for them.

As long as the management still gives the opportunity, then during that time Sahin must be able to show that he is very worthy of receiving the opportunity. I think by showing good progress it will restore the public's trust in him.
Well, I could say something that might sound harsh , but Dortmund is a very winning team, and they are used to making Stories and they have been very close to winning the Bundesliga , and I think that need to win the Bundesliga has made them find all these kinds of decisions that can influence the quick search for good results , and I don't blame them, they have a great fan base , if Leverkusen did it, why can't they? so I think Dortmund is a team that has that there and really wants to win it.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on December 04, 2024, 07:12:35 PM
Such pressure is inevitable, because the public who support Borussia Dortmund will demand that their coach can present the championship title or at least can show a very brilliant performance for them.

As long as the management still gives the opportunity, then during that time Sahin must be able to show that he is very worthy of receiving the opportunity. I think by showing good progress it will restore the public's trust in him.
Well, I could say something that might sound harsh , but Dortmund is a very winning team, and they are used to making Stories and they have been very close to winning the Bundesliga , and I think that need to win the Bundesliga has made them find all these kinds of decisions that can influence the quick search for good results , and I don't blame them, they have a great fan base , if Leverkusen did it, why can't they? so I think Dortmund is a team that has that there and really wants to win it.
I agree with you that Dortmund has been trying their best for quite sometimes now to keep the league more competitive and they have always been a threat in Bundesliga, but they haven't been lucky enough to win it despite all their efforts. If they keep on trying harder, I believe that in no time, they will win the league it might only take few more seasons.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on December 05, 2024, 01:28:00 PM
Such pressure is inevitable, because the public who support Borussia Dortmund will demand that their coach can present the championship title or at least can show a very brilliant performance for them.

As long as the management still gives the opportunity, then during that time Sahin must be able to show that he is very worthy of receiving the opportunity. I think by showing good progress it will restore the public's trust in him.
Well, I could say something that might sound harsh , but Dortmund is a very winning team, and they are used to making Stories and they have been very close to winning the Bundesliga , and I think that need to win the Bundesliga has made them find all these kinds of decisions that can influence the quick search for good results , and I don't blame them, they have a great fan base , if Leverkusen did it, why can't they? so I think Dortmund is a team that has that there and really wants to win it.
That's a good analogy, when comparing them to Leverkusen who were able to successfully win the title, they should have been more motivated to be able to give something very good to the fans, but in reality they weren't.

I think they were too selfish that they didn't prioritize what the supporters wanted. They are a team with a very loyal fan base, that should also be a motivation to present the title.
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Post by: pawel7777 on December 07, 2024, 12:07:25 PM
Important win by Stuttgart yesterday, they need to start collecting 3 points more regularly if they want to keep dreaming about finishing in the top 4. It was not an easy win though. They were losing 0-2 up until the 50th minute but managed to equalise and eventually were handed the 3rd, winning goal on a silver platter by Union's goalkeeper, who just passed the ball to Stuttgart's striker. A painful mistake.

Both Bayern and Leverkusen are playing today at home against teams from the bottom of the table, so it should be a walk in the park, but you never know.
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Post by: Agbe on December 07, 2024, 03:05:47 PM
Important win by Stuttgart yesterday, they need to start collecting 3 points more regularly if they want to keep dreaming about finishing in the top 4. It was not an easy win though. They were losing 0-2 up until the 50th minute but managed to equalise and eventually were handed the 3rd, winning goal on a silver platter by Union's goalkeeper, who just passed the ball to Stuttgart's striker. A painful mistake.

Both Bayern and Leverkusen are playing today at home against teams from the bottom of the table, so it should be a walk in the park, but you never know.
It was a hard win for Stuttgart yesterday as they came back from a two goals down to come back to win 3:2 this type of win don't come by everyday as Stuttgart over came the scare of loosing at home home they really fought hard to win three points and three goals for Stuttgart is a good one for them as it will push them up higher in the table
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Post by: Agbe on December 07, 2024, 03:15:10 PM
Such pressure is inevitable, because the public who support Borussia Dortmund will demand that their coach can present the championship title or at least can show a very brilliant performance for them.

As long as the management still gives the opportunity, then during that time Sahin must be able to show that he is very worthy of receiving the opportunity. I think by showing good progress it will restore the public's trust in him.
Well, I could say something that might sound harsh , but Dortmund is a very winning team, and they are used to making Stories and they have been very close to winning the Bundesliga , and I think that need to win the Bundesliga has made them find all these kinds of decisions that can influence the quick search for good results , and I don't blame them, they have a great fan base , if Leverkusen did it, why can't they? so I think Dortmund is a team that has that there and really wants to win it.
I agree with you that Dortmund has been trying their best for quite sometimes now to keep the league more competitive and they have always been a threat in Bundesliga, but they haven't been lucky enough to win it despite all their efforts. If they keep on trying harder, I believe that in no time, they will win the league it might only take few more seasons.
Yes Dortmund has the trying their best to make sure that bundesliga has a main challenger for the league title as it has been a one man show before the advent of Leverkusen to win the league last year I can say that Dortmund was the only team that was keeping pressure on Bayern Munich but it was not good enough as Bayarn has been the one wining the league. I think Dortmund needs to do more by signing quality player's that can match up with Bayern Munich if they plan of winning the league any time soon as the gab between Bayarn Munich and the rest of the teams is big and Dortmund needs to close in on that gab
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on December 07, 2024, 03:18:18 PM
Important win by Stuttgart yesterday, they need to start collecting 3 points more regularly if they want to keep dreaming about finishing in the top 4. It was not an easy win though. They were losing 0-2 up until the 50th minute but managed to equalise and eventually were handed the 3rd, winning goal on a silver platter by Union's goalkeeper, who just passed the ball to Stuttgart's striker. A painful mistake.

Both Bayern and Leverkusen are playing today at home against teams from the bottom of the table, so it should be a walk in the park, but you never know.
Yes, they were able to make a very good comeback after being 2 goals behind their guest, Union Berlin. I was quite pessimistic when the second goal from Union Berlin happened, but 3 minutes later they were able to reduce the score.

It didn't stop there, they created another goal 9 minutes before which made the score equal. and finally in the 69th minute they were able to create another goal to turn things around and it lasted until the end.
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Post by: Rruchi man on December 07, 2024, 10:26:27 PM
Both Bayern and Leverkusen are playing today at home against teams from the bottom of the table, so it should be a walk in the park, but you never know.
They both won the game, and the title race continues with Bayern Munich still within reach of Leverkusen. Bayern Mnich supporters will be happier for the win more after suffering defeat in their last game against Leverkusen, who also did not lose their game today. Bayern Munich needs to continue winning games to maintain the advantage they have. Any slip-up will give Leverkusen the chance to make the title race more intense.
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Post by: koang on December 08, 2024, 11:28:08 AM
Both Bayern and Leverkusen are playing today at home against teams from the bottom of the table, so it should be a walk in the park, but you never know.
They both won the game, and the title race continues with Bayern Munich still within reach of Leverkusen. Bayern Mnich supporters will be happier for the win more after suffering defeat in their last game against Leverkusen, who also did not lose their game today. Bayern Munich needs to continue winning games to maintain the advantage they have. Any slip-up will give Leverkusen the chance to make the title race more intense.

Yep. Bayern won 4-2 against Heidenheim. Mussiala and Goreztka once again saved Bayern.
A lot of effort in a game, that I think should have ended with more goals but three points at home are good.
But the bad news is Alphonso Davies and Kingsley Coman have torn muscle fibers in their left hamstrings.
I don't know how long it usually takes to recover, speed recovery for both of them. I hope they're back on the pitch soon.
This seems to be due to the lack of rotation, first Kane, now Davies, and then Kimmich. lol
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Post by: $crypto$ on December 08, 2024, 12:58:34 PM
Borussia Dortmund had to suffer another draw after they were held to a draw by hosts Gladbach this week. They could not maintain the lead they held so the score changed to a draw after Gladbach successfully executed a penalty well.

This is their second consecutive draw in the last 5 matches they have played. In fact, they have only been able to get 2 wins from the last 5 matches.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on December 08, 2024, 11:34:54 PM
For Dortmund, this season might be even worse than the previous one when they finished 5th. They are always considered as a serious contender for the Bundesliga championship but after only 13 rounds, the gap between Bayern and Dortmund is already 12 points. So looks like the most Dortmund can hope for this season is to end up within the top 4, which won't be easy as they just got overtaken by Wolfsburg (who are on 5 wins streak).
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on December 10, 2024, 05:34:59 AM
For Dortmund, this season might be even worse than the previous one when they finished 5th. They are always considered as a serious contender for the Bundesliga championship but after only 13 rounds, the gap between Bayern and Dortmund is already 12 points. So looks like the most Dortmund can hope for this season is to end up within the top 4, which won't be easy as they just got overtaken by Wolfsburg (who are on 5 wins streak).

Dortmund have many good players like Nmecha, Schlotterbeck, Kobel, Gittens, Adeyemi and Guirassy.
Felix Nmecha is growing more and more, Top clubs in England are watching him, and he also has a market there, but the player wants to stay at Dortmund for now, and Borussia Dortmund has no plans to sell him.
And Guirassy is a class player, I don't think Dortmund will look for a new striker next year.
The problem is with the coach, Sahin still can't maximize the potential of the players they have. IMO

All eyes will be on Wednesday when Dortmund hosts Barca. After Barca comes Hoffenheim and then Wolfsburg. So, good luck to Dortmund.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 10, 2024, 06:21:55 PM

I agree with you that Dortmund has been trying their best for quite sometimes now to keep the league more competitive and they have always been a threat in Bundesliga, but they haven't been lucky enough to win it despite all their efforts. If they keep on trying harder, I believe that in no time, they will win the league it might only take few more seasons.

I agree that they have not had any luck, Bayern in this Bundesliga, this season they are doing very well, the team that has surprised me the most has been Leverkusen because they have not done anything, they are not even the shadow of what they were last season, I understand that they want to concentrate on the UCL, but I have not seen the magic that they opted to see, however Dortmund has always been there, I hope that they can make the difference.

The Bundesliga is a very exciting league now, I see that Bayern want to win it again and they are doing well, will Dortmund be able to surprise us?
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Post by: Agbe on December 10, 2024, 06:32:02 PM

I agree with you that Dortmund has been trying their best for quite sometimes now to keep the league more competitive and they have always been a threat in Bundesliga, but they haven't been lucky enough to win it despite all their efforts. If they keep on trying harder, I believe that in no time, they will win the league it might only take few more seasons.

I agree that they have not had any luck, Bayern in this Bundesliga, this season they are doing very well, the team that has surprised me the most has been Leverkusen because they have not done anything, they are not even the shadow of what they were last season, I understand that they want to concentrate on the UCL, but I have not seen the magic that they opted to see, however Dortmund has always been there, I hope that they can make the difference.

The Bundesliga is a very exciting league now, I see that Bayern want to win it again and they are doing well, will Dortmund be able to surprise us?
Bayern Leverkusen has not been able to replicate what they did last season there are allot of factors that we can attribute this to because the fact is no season is the same things are bound to change because injuries will also come back in  and player's will also not be at their best just like victor Boniface and others who have not been in their best and have been left to the bench for some matches now and with the way they are going I don't see them going far even in the champion's league this season with the way they are playing, they score allot of goals but they also conceed plenty of goals and that way a team can't do well, maybe in the January window they will sign some new players to complement the effort of the team especially at the backline
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Post by: pieppiep on December 10, 2024, 10:42:00 PM
Bayern Leverkusen has not been able to replicate what they did last season there are allot of factors that we can attribute this to because the fact is no season is the same things are bound to change because injuries will also come back in  and player's will also not be at their best just like victor Boniface and others who have not been in their best and have been left to the bench for some matches now and with the way they are going I don't see them going far even in the champion's league this season with the way they are playing, they score allot of goals but they also conceed plenty of goals and that way a team can't do well, maybe in the January window they will sign some new players to complement the effort of the team especially at the backline
This season is a great time in the sense that Bayer Leverkusen gets the chance to assess their team on many levels. We can notice that they are still very dangerous in attack, but we also notice that they lack some solidity in defense. Those sites are maintained and solid so this team has a great chance and depth to challenge and handle the competition better. That will bring further depth to the squad, more notably in the back line, which will afford the necessary solidity to meet more significant tests. Altogether it can point them to more successful outcomes in the future where appropriate steps have been taken.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 11, 2024, 02:55:59 PM
Yes Dortmund has the trying their best to make sure that bundesliga has a main challenger for the league title as it has been a one man show before the advent of Leverkusen to win the league last year I can say that Dortmund was the only team that was keeping pressure on Bayern Munich but it was not good enough as Bayarn has been the one wining the league. I think Dortmund needs to do more by signing quality player's that can match up with Bayern Munich if they plan of winning the league any time soon as the gab between Bayarn Munich and the rest of the teams is big and Dortmund needs to close in on that gab

Undoubtedly, things are like that, Dortmund have always been there to put pressure on Bayern, will they make the difference this season as they are? Previously Dortmund stood out for preparing high caliber players and selling them, but now Dortmund is seeing this as something more lucrative if they win the Bundesliga, it is much better than selling players, and the fans support them a lot too, I like the way they are playing, they just have to be more consistent, personally I think they are on the right track, they just need to define much better in goal.
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Post by: pieppiep on December 11, 2024, 05:36:43 PM
Undoubtedly, things are like that, Dortmund have always been there to put pressure on Bayern, will they make the difference this season as they are? Previously Dortmund stood out for preparing high caliber players and selling them, but now Dortmund is seeing this as something more lucrative if they win the Bundesliga, it is much better than selling players, and the fans support them a lot too, I like the way they are playing, they just have to be more consistent, personally I think they are on the right track, they just need to define much better in goal.
Dortmund have prove that they can play with some of the best team in the world and the home fans can be the additional players. If they continue that level of passion, and apply it more consistently, especially in defence, they can be a tough nut in the league. Gaining the title, people also point out not only the skills of the team but also the passion for their work and work together. If they carry on with a lot of determination and develop the weaknesses, then they will enjoy a big upset that everyone will embrace.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on December 11, 2024, 09:17:02 PM
Undoubtedly, things are like that, Dortmund have always been there to put pressure on Bayern, will they make the difference this season as they are? Previously Dortmund stood out for preparing high caliber players and selling them, but now Dortmund is seeing this as something more lucrative if they win the Bundesliga, it is much better than selling players, and the fans support them a lot too, I like the way they are playing, they just have to be more consistent, personally I think they are on the right track, they just need to define much better in goal.
Dortmund have prove that they can play with some of the best team in the world and the home fans can be the additional players. If they continue that level of passion, and apply it more consistently, especially in defence, they can be a tough nut in the league. Gaining the title, people also point out not only the skills of the team but also the passion for their work and work together. If they carry on with a lot of determination and develop the weaknesses, then they will enjoy a big upset that everyone will embrace.
Dortmund is a force to reckon with when it comes to the German bundesliga they can take on any team in the league and playing at home gives them that extra multivation and passion to play as their fan's are one of the most supportive and intimidating fan's in football so going to the signa iduna park their traditional home ground to play against Dortmund is like going to war and playing against twelve men on the pitch has the fans can be intimidating and even troublesome some times
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Asiska02 on December 11, 2024, 10:59:53 PM
Undoubtedly, things are like that, Dortmund have always been there to put pressure on Bayern, will they make the difference this season as they are? Previously Dortmund stood out for preparing high caliber players and selling them, but now Dortmund is seeing this as something more lucrative if they win the Bundesliga, it is much better than selling players, and the fans support them a lot too, I like the way they are playing, they just have to be more consistent, personally I think they are on the right track, they just need to define much better in goal.
Dortmund have prove that they can play with some of the best team in the world and the home fans can be the additional players. If they continue that level of passion, and apply it more consistently, especially in defence, they can be a tough nut in the league. Gaining the title, people also point out not only the skills of the team but also the passion for their work and work together. If they carry on with a lot of determination and develop the weaknesses, then they will enjoy a big upset that everyone will embrace.

I am not really seeing Dortmund as a very big opponent that is worthy of been compared to Bayern Munich. They have not ben consistent in the league and just when you thought they’ll do something good in the league games and come out victorious, they begin to fumble and allow other teams to take over time and they miss out of the league title race. This season has already began and I haven’t yet to see a very big significant improvement in the Bundesliga yet even if they stand in a very good position on the league standings. I feel they’re more focused on the champions league than they focus on the Bundesliga which to me is not impressive enough. They need to weigh their options well and give into what they know they’re capable of winning as a team.
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Post by: pawel7777 on December 11, 2024, 11:55:12 PM
Aaand Leipzig are out of the Champions League. At least according the official UEFA website who shows them as the first (and only) team that is confirmed to get eliminated. So their last 2 games remaining in the league stage (Sporting and Sturm Graz) will be for nothing.

I expected a bit more from them, given they can play really well sometimes, and, in their defence they didn't have any easy games. Still, 6 losses out of 6 games played is really poor.
At leat they can now fully focus on Bundesliga (and the DFB Pokal).
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Post by: pieppiep on December 12, 2024, 05:50:02 AM
Aaand Leipzig are out of the Champions League. At least according the official UEFA website who shows them as the first (and only) team that is confirmed to get eliminated. So their last 2 games remaining in the league stage (Sporting and Sturm Graz) will be for nothing.

I expected a bit more from them, given they can play really well sometimes, and, in their defence they didn't have any easy games. Still, 6 losses out of 6 games played is really poor.
At leat they can now fully focus on Bundesliga (and the DFB Pokal).
There is always something to learn from every match in the competition, and even though Leipzig failed in the Champions League this time, there is doubtless much which can be learned from it. No battle is won without a fight and sometimes the battle loss is the wake up call to build a stronger team both physically and psychologically. But as you know, we still have the Bundesliga and DFB Pokal in which we can prove to the entire world that Leipzig is a team full of talents. If all the parties involved will be committed in achieving a revival, then, it can indeed be done; perhaps this is the time to lay down a stronger building block in order to produce a more impressive results in the future.
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Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 13, 2024, 02:33:48 AM

That's a good analogy, when comparing them to Leverkusen who were able to successfully win the title, they should have been more motivated to be able to give something very good to the fans, but in reality they weren't.

I think they were too selfish that they didn't prioritize what the supporters wanted. They are a team with a very loyal fan base, that should also be a motivation to present the title.

Yes, and the truth is that it seems very strange to me on Xabi's part, because he more than anyone knows how important the fans are. He played in Madrid where the fans are very important. Now that he is making history in Germany he should respond a little better. Of course, the UCL approach is unique and I understand that, but sometimes you have to set limits and try to swing the ball around, I know it's difficult, the injuries, the tired players, but in part that is the level that is most competitive. You have to go there full force to achieve things.
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Post by: $crypto$ on December 13, 2024, 12:59:35 PM

That's a good analogy, when comparing them to Leverkusen who were able to successfully win the title, they should have been more motivated to be able to give something very good to the fans, but in reality they weren't.

I think they were too selfish that they didn't prioritize what the supporters wanted. They are a team with a very loyal fan base, that should also be a motivation to present the title.

Yes, and the truth is that it seems very strange to me on Xabi's part, because he more than anyone knows how important the fans are. He played in Madrid where the fans are very important. Now that he is making history in Germany he should respond a little better. Of course, the UCL approach is unique and I understand that, but sometimes you have to set limits and try to swing the ball around, I know it's difficult, the injuries, the tired players, but in part that is the level that is most competitive. You have to go there full force to achieve things.
and it is difficult to achieve something very well there without bringing a full squad, even with a full squad a team still has to struggle a lot when in the Champions League, because the level of opponents faced is indeed different with a different mentality too.

The approach to the supporters must be done by a team, because it cannot be denied that the supporters also indirectly have a bond with a team.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on December 14, 2024, 02:00:14 PM
Borussia Dortmund this season are a different team, not like what I saw from them a few seasons ago, the decline is very clear to see, how they struggle to develop their game to get a win.

This week they will face Hoffenheim, on paper they are clearly more favored, but with the form they have at the moment, I am quite doubtful about them in this match.
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Post by: Agbe on December 14, 2024, 02:16:16 PM
Borussia Dortmund this season are a different team, not like what I saw from them a few seasons ago, the decline is very clear to see, how they struggle to develop their game to get a win.

This week they will face Hoffenheim, on paper they are clearly more favored, but with the form they have at the moment, I am quite doubtful about them in this match.
Dortmund this season has not been their best and are struggling to get back to their feet the problem with Dortmund is that they have this habit of selling their best player's to their main opponent in the league Bayern Munich so it will take them quiet a long time time before they can get back to their form that they where known for, because this season they are really struggling to get back to their feet
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: salad daging on December 14, 2024, 07:55:01 PM
Bayern Munich lost their away match to Mainz 05 perhaps those who bet on Bayern Munich will be disappointed with the result.

Points are getting closer to Leverkusen only 4 points difference for now, because the Bundesliga road is still long it can be a tight competition, I want to see where these two Bayer/n again compete tightly.
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Post by: koang on December 14, 2024, 09:32:06 PM
Bayern Munich lost their away match to Mainz 05 perhaps those who bet on Bayern Munich will be disappointed with the result.

Points are getting closer to Leverkusen only 4 points difference for now, because the Bundesliga road is still long it can be a tight competition, I want to see where these two Bayer/n again compete tightly.

Bayern played very badly in this match on the other hand, Mainz was able to play compactly and disciplined in maintaining their defense.
Bayern players play like kids playing football in the backyard, Kompany can't handle this team.
It was also Bayern's worst performance since the 0-3 defeat against Leverkusen last season. IMO
And Kompany should be blamed for his arrangement which caused Bayern's poor performance.
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Post by: Rruchi man on December 14, 2024, 10:44:12 PM
Bayern Munich lost their away match to Mainz 05 perhaps those who bet on Bayern Munich will be disappointed with the result.
They will be disappointed in their results Because dropping points at this time of the season is not something they should be doing, but unfortunately they had no option; they had to play without Harry Kane, who has been a huge differential in front of goal for Bayern Munich. Leverkusen players would have celebrated Bayern's loss even more than their win against Augsburg because it means that the chance to catch up is opening up.
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Post by: pawel7777 on December 14, 2024, 11:49:06 PM
Can we stop acting as if occasional slip-ups were something unusual and unpredictable?
They got their asses kicked by Mainz, which was a surprise but still, such things will happen from time to time. They cannot win every time.
This is Bayern's only loss this season, so far, making their loss ratio of 7%. The same ratio in the last few seasons when Bayern reached for the title was between 12% and 15%. Taking their past successful seasons as the benchmark, they are still performing above expectations.

And I'm happy to see Bayer closing the distance to Bayern, which makes things much more interesting, especially with Dortmund and Stuttgart being big disappointments.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: salad daging on December 15, 2024, 10:14:01 AM
Bayern Munich lost their away match to Mainz 05 perhaps those who bet on Bayern Munich will be disappointed with the result.
They will be disappointed in their results Because dropping points at this time of the season is not something they should be doing, but unfortunately they had no option; they had to play without Harry Kane, who has been a huge differential in front of goal for Bayern Munich. Leverkusen players would have celebrated Bayern's loss even more than their win against Augsburg because it means that the chance to catch up is opening up.
Harry Kane contributes a lot of goals for Bayern Munich so when he is absent it is difficult to score more goals and now they have to lose which they shouldn't.

I accept this defeat because it was a surprise like any other team, sometimes the guessing is still out of the question.

And while Leverkusen will continue to chase points, Xabi and his team are trying not to lose.
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Post by: pieppiep on December 15, 2024, 11:03:04 AM
Bayern Munich lost their away match to Mainz 05 perhaps those who bet on Bayern Munich will be disappointed with the result.
They will be disappointed in their results Because dropping points at this time of the season is not something they should be doing, but unfortunately they had no option; they had to play without Harry Kane, who has been a huge differential in front of goal for Bayern Munich. Leverkusen players would have celebrated Bayern's loss even more than their win against Augsburg because it means that the chance to catch up is opening up.
Harry Kane contributes a lot of goals for Bayern Munich so when he is absent it is difficult to score more goals and now they have to lose which they shouldn't.

I accept this defeat because it was a surprise like any other team, sometimes the guessing is still out of the question.

And while Leverkusen will continue to chase points, Xabi and his team are trying not to lose.
Whenever we get something other than expected, then it’s always good to learn from it. Each team member is predisposed equally and when one of the members is missing it is the might of the team that should be depended on. That doesn’t negate the amount of potential which is out there but informs people to continue to push ahead, continue to seek out new ways to confront sheer adversity in the next game.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on December 15, 2024, 01:07:54 PM
Borussia Dortmund this season are a different team, not like what I saw from them a few seasons ago, the decline is very clear to see, how they struggle to develop their game to get a win.

This week they will face Hoffenheim, on paper they are clearly more favored, but with the form they have at the moment, I am quite doubtful about them in this match.
Dortmund this season has not been their best and are struggling to get back to their feet the problem with Dortmund is that they have this habit of selling their best player's to their main opponent in the league Bayern Munich so it will take them quiet a long time time before they can get back to their form that they where known for, because this season they are really struggling to get back to their feet
Yes, that is a problem that we all know, they put business above everything, so in the end it really impacts their game because they lose a lot of very important players in the squad.

This is one of the things they have to fix, at least they have to be able to change that habit. Business is a must, but they also have to look at the interests of the team because they also have to get an achievement that they can be proud of.
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Post by: pawel7777 on December 15, 2024, 08:38:00 PM
Another disappointing day for Dortmund fans as their team failed to win against a weak Hoffenheim at home. This is their 3rd straight Bundesliga draw and 4th game in a row without a win in all competitions.
Dortmund is a weird one, because they proved they can play at the highest level by getting to the Champions League final last season, but yet are struggling to keep in the top 6 of the Bundesliga. But I guess that's what happens when a team is not capable of performing consistently at the top level.

Meanwhile, we have a 1-1 draw in Leipzig Vs Eintracht and the 2nd half has just begun. If Eintracht was to win this one, they would jump up to the 2nd place with only 3 points behind Bayern.
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Post by: koang on December 15, 2024, 09:41:44 PM
Another disappointing day for Dortmund fans as their team failed to win against a weak Hoffenheim at home. This is their 3rd straight Bundesliga draw and 4th game in a row without a win in all competitions.
Dortmund is a weird one, because they proved they can play at the highest level by getting to the Champions League final last season, but yet are struggling to keep in the top 6 of the Bundesliga. But I guess that's what happens when a team is not capable of performing consistently at the top level.


Dortmund this season is very different from last season, Sahin has not been able to make the team better.
After almost half a year, Sahin couldn't make any difference to what Terzic played
There is no unity or team spirit that can be felt. Being in eighth place in the standings is not a good result. 4th place is very far, both in terms of points and consistency. lol
Perhaps fans should now accept that the current Dortmund team is mediocre.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 16, 2024, 04:30:51 AM
Bayern Leverkusen has not been able to replicate what they did last season there are allot of factors that we can attribute this to because the fact is no season is the same things are bound to change because injuries will also come back in  and player's will also not be at their best just like victor Boniface and others who have not been in their best and have been left to the bench for some matches now and with the way they are going I don't see them going far even in the champion's league this season with the way they are playing, they score allot of goals but they also conceed plenty of goals and that way a team can't do well, maybe in the January window they will sign some new players to complement the effort of the team especially at the backline

You're right, there are many things that can influence, in fact it's very common, my thing is happening to City in the PL, and it's incredible because they are teams that proved to be very good last season, so it's like all the magic is left in last season and it's a shame,  I like to see good football and that's something we all look for, that's why the big bets and everything , but right now there's no clarity, anyone can win, which makes it more difficult to bet, in Germany Football is very important, and until now Bayern has done well, they're playing very well, I think it will be difficult for them to dethrone at the pace they're going.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on December 17, 2024, 11:42:50 PM
Harry Kane is said to possibly be back in action for the weekend game against Lepzig:
https://talksport.com/football/2386395/harry-kane-injury-update-bayern-munich/

Bayern is a big favourite with odds of x1.33, while betting on Leipzig, you can pocket x7.50. I think bookies underestimate Leipzig team a bit. Leipzig are horribly inconsistent this season, especially when we consider all competitions (i.e. including the Champions League) but they still have one of the best defence in Bundesliga (second only to Bayern) and they noted a good performance last weekend when they earned 3 points on Eintracht (something that Bayern failed to do, as they drew with Frankfurt 3-3 back in October).
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on December 18, 2024, 01:27:42 PM
Harry Kane is said to possibly be back in action for the weekend game against Lepzig:
https://talksport.com/football/2386395/harry-kane-injury-update-bayern-munich/

Bayern is a big favourite with odds of x1.33, while betting on Leipzig, you can pocket x7.50. I think bookies underestimate Leipzig team a bit. Leipzig are horribly inconsistent this season, especially when we consider all competitions (i.e. including the Champions League) but they still have one of the best defence in Bundesliga (second only to Bayern) and they noted a good performance last weekend when they earned 3 points on Eintracht (something that Bayern failed to do, as they drew with Frankfurt 3-3 back in October).
This match is going to be a tricky match as both sides are title contenders for the German Bundled Liga title but going by current form I think both teams can comfortable win the match as both teams are in a good form going into this match, I think the odds given to both teams are not a true reflection of their current form because their is no way you give Bayern Munich 1.33odds against a top team like Leipzig and Leipzig is given a odd  of 7.50 it's no a true reflection of the reality of their performance because when ever two big team's are playing there's the this tendency of any of the match being difficult for the both teams so this game may end in a slim victory for either of the teams as both of them can win this game
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 18, 2024, 07:40:45 PM

and it is difficult to achieve something very well there without bringing a full squad, even with a full squad a team still has to struggle a lot when in the Champions League, because the level of opponents faced is indeed different with a different mentality too.

The approach to the supporters must be done by a team, because it cannot be denied that the supporters also indirectly have a bond with a team.

The truth is I would like to see Leverkusen and Madrid go through between them, because for me they are the ones that have performed the best since last season. Of course this season things have not gone well for them, injuries, things are not going their way, it is difficult because in football there are moments of crisis and that can take its toll. Leverkusen Undoubtedly won over all of Germany and that is something that continues to be evident, that is why many hope that they can Continue doing things well, and if they pull off a surprise in the UCL that would be very good.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on December 18, 2024, 11:50:17 PM
This match is going to be a tricky match as both sides are title contenders for the German Bundled Liga title but going by current form I think both teams can comfortable win the match as both teams are in a good form going into this match, I think the odds given to both teams are not a true reflection of their current form because their is no way you give Bayern Munich 1.33odds against a top team like Leipzig and Leipzig is given a odd  of 7.50 it's no a true reflection of the reality of their performance because when ever two big team's are playing there's the this tendency of any of the match being difficult for the both teams so this game may end in a slim victory for either of the teams as both of them can win this game

Bayern will feel more pressure to win, that's for sure, but having extra pressure is often a disadvantage as it brings in more stress and desperation.
I think the start of the game will be very important. If Bayern manages penetrate Leipzig's defence and take an early lead, it could work very nicely for them and more goals will likely follow. But each passing minute in a goalless draw will be shifting mental advantage towards Leipzig.
I wouldn't mind Bayern losing this one and Leverkusen catching up and reducing the gap to only one point. That would surely make things more interesting.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on December 19, 2024, 07:38:34 AM
This match is going to be a tricky match as both sides are title contenders for the German Bundled Liga title but going by current form I think both teams can comfortable win the match as both teams are in a good form going into this match, I think the odds given to both teams are not a true reflection of their current form because their is no way you give Bayern Munich 1.33odds against a top team like Leipzig and Leipzig is given a odd  of 7.50 it's no a true reflection of the reality of their performance because when ever two big team's are playing there's the this tendency of any of the match being difficult for the both teams so this game may end in a slim victory for either of the teams as both of them can win this game

Bayern will feel more pressure to win, that's for sure, but having extra pressure is often a disadvantage as it brings in more stress and desperation.
I think the start of the game will be very important. If Bayern manages penetrate Leipzig's defence and take an early lead, it could work very nicely for them and more goals will likely follow. But each passing minute in a goalless draw will be shifting mental advantage towards Leipzig.
I wouldn't mind Bayern losing this one and Leverkusen catching up and reducing the gap to only one point. That would surely make things more interesting.
Big match always have a certain different vibes and for sure both teams will come with all the best plans. It is not easy again for any side to meet Bayern with all their experience and quality on the field. Still, Leipzig also has a ready-made factor that will take some players by surprise. This is the time when both the teams will look for set sights on and look for the best footing. For this reason many a time when the situation turns critical, the team that can control the heat will have gotten an upper hand. Anyway, this specific match will undoubtedly offer rather an engaging performance for each one of us. Stiff completion among the competing leaguebased teams is also an attraction in its own right which will enable all the teams to strive to keep on offering their best in the different matches.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on December 19, 2024, 01:52:19 PM
Leverkusen will host Freiburg this week, it will not be easy for them to beat Freiburg, because Freiburg itself is a team that is considered in the Bundesliga.

Leverkusen has just gained an advantage after Bayern Munich suffered a defeat in the previous week, now the points gap between them is 4. Leverkusen must be able to maintain this momentum and not lose points to continue to stick closely to Bayern Munich.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on December 20, 2024, 01:13:11 PM
I think odds for Leipzig winning (or drawing) are misplaced and are much higher than they should be.
Of course, I agree that Bayern is the favourite to win tonight's game, but odds of x1.22 for Bayern and x10.00 for Leipzig are a bit off, and I think betting a small amount on the underdog, or a double-chance bet (Leipzig to win or draw) of x3.50 is a good value bet.

Looking at the last 5 games (all competitions) Bayern has won only 2 of them, wile Leipzig has won 3. Leipzig's problem is lack of consistency, they have games when they get defeated conceding a lot of goals, but on their good days, their defence is really solid. They don't tend to score as often as teams from the top 3, but they could easily make a surprise tonight and steal some points from Bayern.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on December 20, 2024, 03:48:18 PM
Bayern Munich vs Leipzig will be the opening match in the Bundesliga this week. Bayern Munich just experienced their first defeat and now they have to bounce back in this match.

In general, this match is not easy to predict, because Leipzig is also one of the teams that cannot be underestimated in this Bundesliga. But that doesn't mean they can't give Bayern Munich a series of defeats.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 20, 2024, 05:42:07 PM
The Bundesliga in general is very eco-inspiring, for me the champion will undoubtedly be Bayern, of course that is if Dortmund continue as they are. I have been a little disappointed with Leverkusen's performance, I didn't think I would see them like this this season, of course I also didn't expect them to do what they did last season when they were going to win with all their games unbeaten, but I think they need a lot more, I know that the UCL is the one they are mostly looking for, but they need to do something more to be able to be at that level, Xabi is a good coach, but I think he has to give it all away in the Bundesliga.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on December 20, 2024, 07:22:41 PM
Bayern Munich vs Leipzig will be the opening match in the Bundesliga this week. Bayern Munich just experienced their first defeat and now they have to bounce back in this match.

In general, this match is not easy to predict, because Leipzig is also one of the teams that cannot be underestimated in this Bundesliga. But that doesn't mean they can't give Bayern Munich a series of defeats.

Bayern's last match in the Bundesliga in 2024, is a crucial duel for both teams competing at the top of the standings. Only six points separate them.
It would be great for the fans if Bayern won against one of the top 5 in the standings this time after the shock 1-2 defeat to Mainz in the previous week.
Bayern need to refocus, and Leipzig's 1-5 defeat to Stuttgart could be the best example for Kompany to see the weak side of Leipzig.
Leipzig plays Bayern as confidently but I think Bayern can get three points on the home.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Asiska02 on December 20, 2024, 07:34:43 PM
Bayern Munich vs Leipzig will be the opening match in the Bundesliga this week. Bayern Munich just experienced their first defeat and now they have to bounce back in this match.

In general, this match is not easy to predict, because Leipzig is also one of the teams that cannot be underestimated in this Bundesliga. But that doesn't mean they can't give Bayern Munich a series of defeats.

Bayern's last match in the Bundesliga in 2024, is a crucial duel for both teams competing at the top of the standings. Only six points separate them.
It would be great for the fans if Bayern won against one of the top 5 in the standings this time after the shock 1-2 defeat to Mainz in the previous week.
Bayern need to refocus, and Leipzig's 1-5 defeat to Stuttgart could be the best example for Kompany to see the weak side of Leipzig.
Leipzig plays Bayern as confidently but I think Bayern can get three points on the home.

One cannot be so sure that Bayern Munich are going to get full three points in this game after their last two games that they lost. They may be playing from home but it doesn’t mean their opponent is that weak for them to confidently see themselves getting a full three points in this match. Just like them, Leipzig are also in the fight for the Bundesliga title and won’t take any chances of not winning all of their games. It is going to be a very tough duel, we just have to wait to see the team that will perform better to get the full three points or they share the points if the challenge becomes tougher.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: salad daging on December 20, 2024, 07:58:27 PM
One cannot be so sure that Bayern Munich are going to get full three points in this game after their last two games that they lost. They may be playing from home but it doesn’t mean their opponent is that weak for them to confidently see themselves getting a full three points in this match. Just like them, Leipzig are also in the fight for the Bundesliga title and won’t take any chances of not winning all of their games. It is going to be a very tough duel, we just have to wait to see the team that will perform better to get the full three points or they share the points if the challenge becomes tougher.
This will be an interesting match.
Bayern Munich are definitely favored because playing at Allianz is an advantage for them to play in front of their fans, while the opponents faced are difficult Leipzig but in this match will support Bayern Munich to win.
This week will not bet on Bundesliga matches.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on December 20, 2024, 09:42:23 PM
Bayern Munich vs Leipzig will be the opening match in the Bundesliga this week. Bayern Munich just experienced their first defeat and now they have to bounce back in this match.

In general, this match is not easy to predict, because Leipzig is also one of the teams that cannot be underestimated in this Bundesliga. But that doesn't mean they can't give Bayern Munich a series of defeats.

Bayern's last match in the Bundesliga in 2024, is a crucial duel for both teams competing at the top of the standings. Only six points separate them.
It would be great for the fans if Bayern won against one of the top 5 in the standings this time after the shock 1-2 defeat to Mainz in the previous week.
Bayern need to refocus, and Leipzig's 1-5 defeat to Stuttgart could be the best example for Kompany to see the weak side of Leipzig.
Leipzig plays Bayern as confidently but I think Bayern can get three points on the home.

One cannot be so sure that Bayern Munich are going to get full three points in this game after their last two games that they lost. They may be playing from home but it doesn’t mean their opponent is that weak for them to confidently see themselves getting a full three points in this match. Just like them, Leipzig are also in the fight for the Bundesliga title and won’t take any chances of not winning all of their games. It is going to be a very tough duel, we just have to wait to see the team that will perform better to get the full three points or they share the points if the challenge becomes tougher.

Check the game so you know what I mean :) Enjoy while it lasts
What a good first half, Bayern was very good in everything. Joshua Kimmich with an absolute rocket from a distance extends Bayern's lead against 3-1.
Leipzig let Bayern players into the final third easily and no counterattacks could happen like that...lol.
If there is no significant change from Marco Rose in the second half, Bayern will win this match easily.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on December 20, 2024, 09:57:17 PM
What a good first half, Bayern was very good in everything. Joshua Kimmich with an absolute rocket from a distance extends Bayern's lead against 3-1.
Leipzig let Bayern players into the final third easily and no counterattacks could happen like that...lol.
If there is no significant change from Marco Rose in the second half, Bayern will win this match easily.
This is not the exact kind of result that Leverkusen players and coaches will be expecting to hear from the Leipzig game because on the chase currently is Leverkusen, and any point drop from Bayern Munich favors them. The point difference is narrowing, but Leverkusen still needs some catching up to do, and they will target collecting all three points against Freiburg, who are chasing a Champions League qualification spot when they play tomorrow.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 21, 2024, 01:40:18 PM
Dortmund have prove that they can play with some of the best team in the world and the home fans can be the additional players. If they continue that level of passion, and apply it more consistently, especially in defence, they can be a tough nut in the league. Gaining the title, people also point out not only the skills of the team but also the passion for their work and work together. If they carry on with a lot of determination and develop the weaknesses, then they will enjoy a big upset that everyone will embrace.
It's true, Dortmund used to be very good at training and producing high-calibre players, Lewa and many more have come out, so before Dortmund was very well-known for that reason, but then things have changed a bit, you can see that they want to, they are fighting to win a Bundesliga, that's what they do best at the moment, however Bayern hasn't allowed it, they are playing a lot more now, last season Leverkusen surprised them, now they are somewhat passive, however the good thing about the Bundesliga is that everything can change from one moment to the next.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on December 21, 2024, 04:02:44 PM
Bayern Munich vs Leipzig will be the opening match in the Bundesliga this week. Bayern Munich just experienced their first defeat and now they have to bounce back in this match.

In general, this match is not easy to predict, because Leipzig is also one of the teams that cannot be underestimated in this Bundesliga. But that doesn't mean they can't give Bayern Munich a series of defeats.

Bayern's last match in the Bundesliga in 2024, is a crucial duel for both teams competing at the top of the standings. Only six points separate them.
It would be great for the fans if Bayern won against one of the top 5 in the standings this time after the shock 1-2 defeat to Mainz in the previous week.
Bayern need to refocus, and Leipzig's 1-5 defeat to Stuttgart could be the best example for Kompany to see the weak side of Leipzig.
Leipzig plays Bayern as confidently but I think Bayern can get three points on the home.
Bayern Munich could win the match with a fantastic score, 5-1. They won very convincingly and they looked very comfortable in this match. They could even score a goal in the first minute.

This big win seems to be an answer to their previous defeat, yes previously their defeat was considered because Kane was not in the squad, but in this match they showed something good, even though Leipzig is also a good team in the Bundesliga.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: bounceback on December 21, 2024, 04:52:37 PM
Bayern Munich could win the match with a fantastic score, 5-1. They won very convincingly and they looked very comfortable in this match. They could even score a goal in the first minute.

This big win seems to be an answer to their previous defeat, yes previously their defeat was considered because Kane was not in the squad, but in this match they showed something good, even though Leipzig is also a good team in the Bundesliga.
Bayern Munich success wake up in this week by defeating Leipzig over 5-1 after losses last match from Mainz, five goals of Bayern Munich in this match scoring by difference players and looks very interested behind dominance goals scoring by Harry Kane but today he not scoring any goals yet.
Now Bayern more confidence at first standings with 7 points left from Bayern Leverkusen still have one match this week, Bundesliga will break for awhile until next year and have more longer time for all team prepare their squad and recruit new player when window transfer opening.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on December 21, 2024, 04:59:41 PM
Bayern Munich could win the match with a fantastic score, 5-1. They won very convincingly and they looked very comfortable in this match. They could even score a goal in the first minute.

This big win seems to be an answer to their previous defeat, yes previously their defeat was considered because Kane was not in the squad, but in this match they showed something good, even though Leipzig is also a good team in the Bundesliga.
Bayern Munich success wake up in this week by defeating Leipzig over 5-1 after losses last match from Mainz, five goals of Bayern Munich in this match scoring by difference players and looks very interested behind dominance goals scoring by Harry Kane but today he not scoring any goals yet.
Now Bayern more confidence at first standings with 7 points left from Bayern Leverkusen still have one match this week, Bundesliga will break for awhile until next year and have more longer time for all team prepare their squad and recruit new player when window transfer opening.
It was a surprising defeat for Leipzig as they where humiliated by Bayern Munich by 5:1 no one saw this coming , it's one match that a lot of people has interest in but everyone was left disappointed as the game was a one way traffic as Bayern Munich took full control of the game from start to finish of the game
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on December 21, 2024, 06:09:40 PM
Bayern Munich could win the match with a fantastic score, 5-1. They won very convincingly and they looked very comfortable in this match. They could even score a goal in the first minute.

This big win seems to be an answer to their previous defeat, yes previously their defeat was considered because Kane was not in the squad, but in this match they showed something good, even though Leipzig is also a good team in the Bundesliga.
Bayern Munich success wake up in this week by defeating Leipzig over 5-1 after losses last match from Mainz, five goals of Bayern Munich in this match scoring by difference players and looks very interested behind dominance goals scoring by Harry Kane but today he not scoring any goals yet.
Now Bayern more confidence at first standings with 7 points left from Bayern Leverkusen still have one match this week, Bundesliga will break for awhile until next year and have more longer time for all team prepare their squad and recruit new player when window transfer opening.
A big blow for Leipzig from Bayern. It was a big embarrassment yesterday and I thought that the visitors were strong enough to come up with a better performance. Bayern is unstoppable in this league and any club that feel they are strong will get messed up by Bayern. Looks like what happened in Lazio vs Inter.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on December 21, 2024, 07:14:01 PM
I guess I overestimated Leipzig (or underestimated Bayern) when I said there's a big chance they could steal some points in Munich last night.
It was a total dominance by Bayern in all aspects of the game. Maybe except that super quick response by Leipzig in the 2nd minute. It was the first time in the history of Bundesliga that both teams scored within the first two minutes.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Asiska02 on December 21, 2024, 09:08:38 PM
I guess I overestimated Leipzig (or underestimated Bayern) when I said there's a big chance they could steal some points in Munich last night.
It was a total dominance by Bayern in all aspects of the game. Maybe except that super quick response by Leipzig in the 2nd minute. It was the first time in the history of Bundesliga that both teams scored within the first two minutes.

This match was never going to be an easy one for both teams because even after the first two minutes, the goals that where scored showed how intense the match was going to be. Although, the game took another rhyme and everything changed quickly in the 25tg minute when Laimer scored another goal to put Bayern Munich in the lead.

I also did expect a tough challenge for Bayern Munich after they lost their two games, but they proved us wrong and showed that they’re a formidable team to depend on and not lost hope in the fight for the league title yet. I like their courage in this game and how they got the lead and made sure they added more goals to secure the win. It is only getting tougher and not easier for all teams in the Bundesliga now.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on December 21, 2024, 10:52:30 PM
What a good first half, Bayern was very good in everything. Joshua Kimmich with an absolute rocket from a distance extends Bayern's lead against 3-1.
Leipzig let Bayern players into the final third easily and no counterattacks could happen like that...lol.
If there is no significant change from Marco Rose in the second half, Bayern will win this match easily.
This is not the exact kind of result that Leverkusen players and coaches will be expecting to hear from the Leipzig game because on the chase currently is Leverkusen, and any point drop from Bayern Munich favors them. The point difference is narrowing, but Leverkusen still needs some catching up to do, and they will target collecting all three points against Freiburg, who are chasing a Champions League qualification spot when they play tomorrow.

Xabi Alonso's squad is back with the form again….
Bayer Leverkusen menutup tahun 2024 dengan kemenangan telak 5-1 atas Freiburg. This is a clear answer to the message FC Bayern sent yesterday evening. :)
Patrick Schick is a beast! 4 gol dalam satu pertandingan...Amazing
Leverkusen is showing pure class Schick and Wirtz are a deadly duo, and 2025 will be dangerous.

The Bundesliga will have a winter break for almost four weeks, before the league starts again on January 11.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on December 22, 2024, 04:44:20 PM
Bayern Munich could win the match with a fantastic score, 5-1. They won very convincingly and they looked very comfortable in this match. They could even score a goal in the first minute.

This big win seems to be an answer to their previous defeat, yes previously their defeat was considered because Kane was not in the squad, but in this match they showed something good, even though Leipzig is also a good team in the Bundesliga.
Bayern Munich success wake up in this week by defeating Leipzig over 5-1 after losses last match from Mainz, five goals of Bayern Munich in this match scoring by difference players and looks very interested behind dominance goals scoring by Harry Kane but today he not scoring any goals yet.
Now Bayern more confidence at first standings with 7 points left from Bayern Leverkusen still have one match this week, Bundesliga will break for awhile until next year and have more longer time for all team prepare their squad and recruit new player when window transfer opening.
Leverkusen can keep the distance again with the victory they also achieved this week, so their points gap is still the same as last week, which is only 4 points.

But are those 4 points safe enough? Of course not. Bayern Munich should not be too comfortable with their current position, because if that happens then they might be careless and in the end they have to slip again and at that time Leverkusen will take advantage of it.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on December 22, 2024, 05:59:40 PM
Bayern Munich could win the match with a fantastic score, 5-1. They won very convincingly and they looked very comfortable in this match. They could even score a goal in the first minute.

This big win seems to be an answer to their previous defeat, yes previously their defeat was considered because Kane was not in the squad, but in this match they showed something good, even though Leipzig is also a good team in the Bundesliga.
Bayern Munich success wake up in this week by defeating Leipzig over 5-1 after losses last match from Mainz, five goals of Bayern Munich in this match scoring by difference players and looks very interested behind dominance goals scoring by Harry Kane but today he not scoring any goals yet.
Now Bayern more confidence at first standings with 7 points left from Bayern Leverkusen still have one match this week, Bundesliga will break for awhile until next year and have more longer time for all team prepare their squad and recruit new player when window transfer opening.
Leverkusen can keep the distance again with the victory they also achieved this week, so their points gap is still the same as last week, which is only 4 points.

But are those 4 points safe enough? Of course not. Bayern Munich should not be too comfortable with their current position, because if that happens then they might be careless and in the end they have to slip again and at that time Leverkusen will take advantage of it.
I agree with you because Bayern Munich has not been consistent with their form and with the way Leverkusen has been finding their form of recent Bayern Munich should be careful and situp because the points gap between the two teams are not much because on one game lose for Bayern Munich can change the tide in the league this is the kind of competition that has been missing in the bundesliga for a long time now that only Bayern Munich has been dominating the league but from last season the there has been stiff competition for team at the league and they lost it so they should be careful because Leverkusen are their pursuit
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on December 22, 2024, 07:11:57 PM
I agree with you because Bayern Munich has not been consistent with their form and with the way Leverkusen has been finding their form of recent Bayern Munich should be careful and situp because the points gap between the two teams are not much because on one game lose for Bayern Munich can change the tide in the league this is the kind of competition that has been missing in the bundesliga for a long time now that only Bayern Munich has been dominating the league but from last season the there has been stiff competition for team at the league and they lost it so they should be careful because Leverkusen are their pursuit
This Battle of the Clubs is between Bayern Munich who have been the strongest team in the Bundesliga for most seasons but have realised that due to new changes in the league it is slowly becoming competitive. Leverkusen have been equally good and more importantly regular and this has put pressure on us to maintain good performance right through the season and in every match. The points difference is quite small now, therefore the team cannot over relax as one lost match can be very disastrous. The field becomes more transparent and the time has come not only to consolidate the fundamental position but also to seize any opportunity that might be beneficial for a company. This is due to support from the team and players alongside enduring assessment to retain our momentum in the league.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on December 24, 2024, 11:37:38 AM
With the ongoing Christmas break, we won't see any action until 10th of January, when we'll see an opening game of round 16 between Dortmund and Leverkusen.
Leverkusen is currently the only serious rival that can stop Bayern from winning the league, and if Bayer wants to defend their title, they need to keep winning difficult games like the one in Dortmund.
Borussia has been horribly inconsistent this season but they haven't lost any of their last 5 league games and are especially dangerous at home. Their points per game for home games is +1.79 points higher than for their away games, which is the highest in the Bundesliga.
Odds for both are as follows:
Dortmund to win: x2.60
Draw: x3.60
Leverkusen to win: x2.45

I'm hoping to see Leverkusen winning it, just so Bayern is not left without any competition and to keep things interesting up until the end.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on December 24, 2024, 06:22:20 PM
With the ongoing Christmas break, we won't see any action until 10th of January, when we'll see an opening game of round 16 between Dortmund and Leverkusen.
Leverkusen is currently the only serious rival that can stop Bayern from winning the league, and if Bayer wants to defend their title, they need to keep winning difficult games like the one in Dortmund.
Borussia has been horribly inconsistent this season but they haven't lost any of their last 5 league games and are especially dangerous at home. Their points per game for home games is +1.79 points higher than for their away games, which is the highest in the Bundesliga.
Odds for both are as follows:
Dortmund to win: x2.60
Draw: x3.60
Leverkusen to win: x2.45

I'm hoping to see Leverkusen winning it, just so Bayern is not left without any competition and to keep things interesting up until the end.
Actions from the bundesliga will be missed following the Christmas break so that players and coaches can rest and take some time off and spend some time with their families and friends but the German league will come back to action in January when two High flying sides Leverkusen and Dortmund will clash this game promise to be entertaining and electrifying as both sides are title contenders when it comes to the German league Leverkusen current champions of the league trying to defend their league comes up against a Dortmund team that is currently not currently doing very well it will be one of those matches that be beautiful to watch as both sides are attack minded
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on December 25, 2024, 09:41:50 AM
With the ongoing Christmas break, we won't see any action until 10th of January, when we'll see an opening game of round 16 between Dortmund and Leverkusen.
Leverkusen is currently the only serious rival that can stop Bayern from winning the league, and if Bayer wants to defend their title, they need to keep winning difficult games like the one in Dortmund.
Borussia has been horribly inconsistent this season but they haven't lost any of their last 5 league games and are especially dangerous at home. Their points per game for home games is +1.79 points higher than for their away games, which is the highest in the Bundesliga.
Odds for both are as follows:
Dortmund to win: x2.60
Draw: x3.60
Leverkusen to win: x2.45

I'm hoping to see Leverkusen winning it, just so Bayern is not left without any competition and to keep things interesting up until the end.
Actions from the bundesliga will be missed following the Christmas break so that players and coaches can rest and take some time off and spend some time with their families and friends but the German league will come back to action in January when two High flying sides Leverkusen and Dortmund will clash this game promise to be entertaining and electrifying as both sides are title contenders when it comes to the German league Leverkusen current champions of the league trying to defend their league comes up against a Dortmund team that is currently not currently doing very well it will be one of those matches that be beautiful to watch as both sides are attack minded
The return of the Bundesliga after the Christmas break is always an emotion of its own kind to the football enthusiasts. But Leverkusen against Dortmund is a moment which is expected, especially about the nature of the teams which is rather energetic and creative. As having the status of the defending champion, Leverkusen is likely to demonstrate its permanency in the top tier, however, Dortmund is likely to beat the same indication and confirm that it still keeps its positions among the leaders. This game is a good chance to watch, how the best players use the strategy, and how the team and each personality works. This match is much more than a competition, and the spirit of as well as quality entertainment held in different elements of sports.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on December 25, 2024, 12:33:59 PM
(...) but the German league will come back to action in January when two High flying sides Leverkusen and Dortmund will clash this game promise to be entertaining and electrifying as both sides are title contenders when it comes to the German league Leverkusen current champions of the league trying to defend their league comes up against a Dortmund team that is currently not currently doing very well it will be one of those matches that be beautiful to watch as both sides are attack minded

I don't really see Dortmund as a serious title contender anymore. Although, in theory, they still have a chance of winning the league, the gap between them and Bayern is just too big (11 points). It would require Bayern to go through some sort of crisis and Borussia to stabilise their form at a high level, which is something they struggle with almost every season.

As for Dortmund Vs Leverkusen, I think the most likely outcome is a draw. Leverkusen have only lost once in the league this season and Dortmund are very hard to beat at home, so split of points is more than expected.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on December 25, 2024, 01:31:30 PM
(...) but the German league will come back to action in January when two High flying sides Leverkusen and Dortmund will clash this game promise to be entertaining and electrifying as both sides are title contenders when it comes to the German league Leverkusen current champions of the league trying to defend their league comes up against a Dortmund team that is currently not currently doing very well it will be one of those matches that be beautiful to watch as both sides are attack minded

I don't really see Dortmund as a serious title contender anymore. Although, in theory, they still have a chance of winning the league, the gap between them and Bayern is just too big (11 points). It would require Bayern to go through some sort of crisis and Borussia to stabilise their form at a high level, which is something they struggle with almost every season.

As for Dortmund Vs Leverkusen, I think the most likely outcome is a draw. Leverkusen have only lost once in the league this season and Dortmund are very hard to beat at home, so split of points is more than expected.
Dortmund seems to be struggling this season as they are currently in sixth position with 25 points that is 11 points difference between Dortmund and Bayern Munich which is at the top of table with the way that Dortmund is playing this season they may likely not be in the champions league next season let see how they will come back from this Christmas break as they will take time off and come back a better team
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on December 25, 2024, 03:07:06 PM
Dortmund seems to be struggling this season as they are currently in sixth position with 25 points that is 11 points difference between Dortmund and Bayern Munich which is at the top of table with the way that Dortmund is playing this season they may likely not be in the champions league next season let see how they will come back from this Christmas break as they will take time off and come back a better team
Dortmund has the chances to once again turn to one of the strongest clubs in the league for the next season. It is clear that new young stars are appearing and the competitiveness which has always been a hallmark of Manchester City, remainders a variety of opportunities for development during the rest of the season. The general changes, increased togetherness, and involvement of the senior players may well be the first approaches in developing the necessary equilibrium on the field. We are convinced that not only the efforts and love combine the outcome of a successful game with the team’s solid image. The path to achieving consistency has no known loopholes, but the detailed procedure, as described will definitely yield desired outcomes that the club and its fans would be proud of.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on December 26, 2024, 01:42:30 PM
Leverkusen can keep the distance again with the victory they also achieved this week, so their points gap is still the same as last week, which is only 4 points.

But are those 4 points safe enough? Of course not. Bayern Munich should not be too comfortable with their current position, because if that happens then they might be careless and in the end they have to slip again and at that time Leverkusen will take advantage of it.
I agree with you because Bayern Munich has not been consistent with their form and with the way Leverkusen has been finding their form of recent Bayern Munich should be careful and situp because the points gap between the two teams are not much because on one game lose for Bayern Munich can change the tide in the league this is the kind of competition that has been missing in the bundesliga for a long time now that only Bayern Munich has been dominating the league but from last season the there has been stiff competition for team at the league and they lost it so they should be careful because Leverkusen are their pursuit
Leverkusen could be more dangerous after they stumbled at the beginning of the season, and maybe they could even show a game like or even more than last season.

The winning streak that they got lately could be a material for Bayern Mnuich to see, that Leverkusen is really chasing and becoming a very big threat to them. The season is also still very long and anything can happen, including in catching up on their points at the top of the standings at this time.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on December 26, 2024, 05:43:57 PM
Leverkusen can keep the distance again with the victory they also achieved this week, so their points gap is still the same as last week, which is only 4 points.

But are those 4 points safe enough? Of course not. Bayern Munich should not be too comfortable with their current position, because if that happens then they might be careless and in the end they have to slip again and at that time Leverkusen will take advantage of it.
I agree with you because Bayern Munich has not been consistent with their form and with the way Leverkusen has been finding their form of recent Bayern Munich should be careful and situp because the points gap between the two teams are not much because on one game lose for Bayern Munich can change the tide in the league this is the kind of competition that has been missing in the bundesliga for a long time now that only Bayern Munich has been dominating the league but from last season the there has been stiff competition for team at the league and they lost it so they should be careful because Leverkusen are their pursuit
Leverkusen could be more dangerous after they stumbled at the beginning of the season, and maybe they could even show a game like or even more than last season.

The winning streak that they got lately could be a material for Bayern Mnuich to see, that Leverkusen is really chasing and becoming a very big threat to them. The season is also still very long and anything can happen, including in catching up on their points at the top of the standings at this time.
Leverkusen is one excellent example of how a new team can come to the advanced confident and powerful formation. Their improved recent result indicates that diligence in every match is gradually beginning to yield the desired results. Victory after victory is not only signs of the development of the team, but also has given the players and thousands of fans to keep confidence in themselves. That is why having a high level of confidence, along with being a cohesive team with a singular purpose, no adversary is overpowering. For a long play anything can transpire, and they Leverkusen have every motivation to carry on with more vigour, making new chances in every match they participate.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on December 27, 2024, 02:27:01 PM
Leverkusen is one excellent example of how a new team can come to the advanced confident and powerful formation. (...)

Many don't quite appreciate how much of a big thing it was for Leverkusen to win the Bundesliga last season. Before that, Bayern won 11 years in a row and Leverkusen finally broke that streak.
It seemed like all the other clubs just accepted the status quo of Bayern as the hegemon and haven't been showing much interest in investing in their squads to become more competitive. It's worth noting that German clubs historically tended to spend a lower percentage of their revenues on player salaries compared to clubs in other major European leagues.
I don't think Leverkusen's success was due to heavy investing as much as it was due to Xabi Alonso being able to build a great team from what he had, but they managed to break the mold and make things more interesting. So I'm hoping that Leverkusen will keep putting pressure on Bayern in this and the following seasons.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on December 27, 2024, 02:29:10 PM
Leverkusen could be more dangerous after they stumbled at the beginning of the season, and maybe they could even show a game like or even more than last season.

The winning streak that they got lately could be a material for Bayern Mnuich to see, that Leverkusen is really chasing and becoming a very big threat to them. The season is also still very long and anything can happen, including in catching up on their points at the top of the standings at this time.
Leverkusen is one excellent example of how a new team can come to the advanced confident and powerful formation. Their improved recent result indicates that diligence in every match is gradually beginning to yield the desired results. Victory after victory is not only signs of the development of the team, but also has given the players and thousands of fans to keep confidence in themselves. That is why having a high level of confidence, along with being a cohesive team with a singular purpose, no adversary is overpowering. For a long play anything can transpire, and they Leverkusen have every motivation to carry on with more vigour, making new chances in every match they participate.
This is inseparable from Xabi's work so that they can bring them this far, especially last season. Because he brought this team from the bottom when he came, and the players he has are actually not very special players that many people talk about.

However, with Xabi's performance who can understand his players well, it can create good chemistry. Chemistry is a very important thing in football.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on December 27, 2024, 03:27:11 PM
This is inseparable from Xabi's work so that they can bring them this far, especially last season. Because he brought this team from the bottom when he came, and the players he has are actually not very special players that many people talk about.

However, with Xabi's performance who can understand his players well, it can create good chemistry. Chemistry is a very important thing in football.
Xabi Alonso have interested tactician with Bayern Leverkusen and unbeaten record last season become most success achievement for him, but in this season he can't defend unbeaten record but still pressure Bayern Munich at the top standing position behind few points left. Xabi Alonso not get difficukt for building chemistry after singinng any new players in this season, still have opportunity for Leverkusen for winning Bundesliga trophy and get qualify to knock out round at Champion League.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on December 28, 2024, 03:40:44 PM
This is inseparable from Xabi's work so that they can bring them this far, especially last season. Because he brought this team from the bottom when he came, and the players he has are actually not very special players that many people talk about.

However, with Xabi's performance who can understand his players well, it can create good chemistry. Chemistry is a very important thing in football.
Xabi Alonso have interested tactician with Bayern Leverkusen and unbeaten record last season become most success achievement for him, but in this season he can't defend unbeaten record but still pressure Bayern Munich at the top standing position behind few points left. Xabi Alonso not get difficukt for building chemistry after singinng any new players in this season, still have opportunity for Leverkusen for winning Bundesliga trophy and get qualify to knock out round at Champion League.
his experience as a player in the past really helped him when he became a coach, he would definitely see his former coach solve problems and he would definitely apply it or at least he would apply it in his own way.

Leverkusen is lucky because he can get him, he is the person who successfully gave them the Bundesliga title after a long wait and what is more interesting is that he did it in a very extraordinary way.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on December 29, 2024, 06:26:19 PM
In the final standings at the end of this year, Borussia Dortmund is in 6th position, this is not the position they usually occupy, this is quite disappointing of course for a team that has a name like Borussia Dortmund.

At the beginning of the year they must be able to ensure that they can rise quickly, because it will also affect their position at the end of the standings later. Although the competition is still running quite long, they still have to do it at the beginning of the year.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on December 29, 2024, 07:56:00 PM
This is inseparable from Xabi's work so that they can bring them this far, especially last season. Because he brought this team from the bottom when he came, and the players he has are actually not very special players that many people talk about.

However, with Xabi's performance who can understand his players well, it can create good chemistry. Chemistry is a very important thing in football.
Xabi Alonso have interested tactician with Bayern Leverkusen and unbeaten record last season become most success achievement for him, but in this season he can't defend unbeaten record but still pressure Bayern Munich at the top standing position behind few points left. Xabi Alonso not get difficukt for building chemistry after singinng any new players in this season, still have opportunity for Leverkusen for winning Bundesliga trophy and get qualify to knock out round at Champion League.

In Leverkusen, Xabi is fast becoming a great manager. Xabi Alonso has been incredible and still playing beautiful football.
In the year's final table, Leverkusen is in second place, with a difference of four points from Bayern just when they thought Leverkusen was finished. :)
They will be back at the top by the end of the season. I have faith that they can do it again.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on December 31, 2024, 06:12:27 AM
This is inseparable from Xabi's work so that they can bring them this far, especially last season. Because he brought this team from the bottom when he came, and the players he has are actually not very special players that many people talk about.

However, with Xabi's performance who can understand his players well, it can create good chemistry. Chemistry is a very important thing in football.
Xabi Alonso have interested tactician with Bayern Leverkusen and unbeaten record last season become most success achievement for him, but in this season he can't defend unbeaten record but still pressure Bayern Munich at the top standing position behind few points left. Xabi Alonso not get difficukt for building chemistry after singinng any new players in this season, still have opportunity for Leverkusen for winning Bundesliga trophy and get qualify to knock out round at Champion League.
his experience as a player in the past really helped him when he became a coach, he would definitely see his former coach solve problems and he would definitely apply it or at least he would apply it in his own way.

Leverkusen is lucky because he can get him, he is the person who successfully gave them the Bundesliga title after a long wait and what is more interesting is that he did it in a very extraordinary way.
That is why when a person comes with a new perspective and the willingness to experiment the changes that follow are very large. From those who have successfully managed to transform harms to gains we can draw valuable messages of hope of how innovation and hard work can open a way to further success storeys. In the context of sport the function of the trainer is not only to construct plans but he also has to trust within the group and to be a real motivation. The achievements present today are the goals of hard teamwork, nothing was created with an idea; all was planned. I think that recommendations mentioned above are pleasant manner to celebrate these achievements not only by the number of victories and trophies but the work we have done together to achieve these goals.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on December 31, 2024, 06:40:04 PM
While waiting for the Christmas break to end, Der Kicker, the most respected and prestigious sports magazine, published their ranking for the best defensive midfielders in the Bundesliga of the 2024/25 season so far:
https://bulinews.com/best-defensive/central-midfielders-the-bundesliga-the-2024/25-season-far
They divided their ranking into 3 categories, World Class, International class, and National class.
Strangely enough, they decided nobody was worthy of being ranked as World Class. The highest-ranked defensive midfielder is Joshua Kimmich (Bayern Munich).
Title: Re: Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread
Post by: Agbe on January 01, 2025, 11:04:58 PM
Do you think Leverkusen will be as dominant as in 2023/24 and will they defend the title?
Bayer Leverkusen have a good chance to improve on their performance from last season because Xabi Alonso remained with them, but Bayern Munich, if we should judge them from their pre-season game already, Vincent Kompany is already looking properly integrated into the team and ready for the new season.

Bayern Munich scored many goals (14) in their friendly game against FC Rotach-Egern and conceded one goal. This season's Bundesliga is one to look out for.
Bayarn Leverkusen last season was in another level so it will be difficult for Leverkusen to repeat this season because the fact of mater is that every season is not the same and teams performance drops from season to season and looking at Leverkusen performance this season they started in a shaky ground at the beginning of the season and some of their important players like victor boniface where injured but the season progressed they have found their firm back and is really doing great as they are currently doing well standing in second position and just about four poins behind league leaders Bayarn Munich and they can still win the league as the league is still open for any of the top four teams to win
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 02, 2025, 04:29:11 PM
Bayarn Leverkusen last season was in another level so it will be difficult for Leverkusen to repeat this season because the fact of mater is that every season is not the same and teams performance drops from season to season and looking at Leverkusen performance this season they started in a shaky ground at the beginning of the season and some of their important players like victor boniface where injured but the season progressed they have found their firm back and is really doing great as they are currently doing well standing in second position and just about four poins behind league leaders Bayarn Munich and they can still win the league as the league is still open for any of the top four teams to win
You're right, the level of Recovery they've had is impressive, when I look at the numbers I can't believe it, or what you say is real , maybe they are not at 100% like last season , but they Have not forgotten how to win, and Xabi is aiming for two key objectives, they are the Bundesliga and the UCL, so I like that, without fearing anything because I think that is what he is looking for, in the Madrid style, of course there is a new format in the UCL and that has benefited many teams , Leverkusen is not bad but it still needs that little bit of push.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 02, 2025, 05:02:28 PM
Bayarn Leverkusen last season was in another level so it will be difficult for Leverkusen to repeat this season because the fact of mater is that every season is not the same and teams performance drops from season to season and looking at Leverkusen performance this season they started in a shaky ground at the beginning of the season and some of their important players like victor boniface where injured but the season progressed they have found their firm back and is really doing great as they are currently doing well standing in second position and just about four poins behind league leaders Bayarn Munich and they can still win the league as the league is still open for any of the top four teams to win
You're right, the level of Recovery they've had is impressive, when I look at the numbers I can't believe it, or what you say is real , maybe they are not at 100% like last season , but they Have not forgotten how to win, and Xabi is aiming for two key objectives, they are the Bundesliga and the UCL, so I like that, without fearing anything because I think that is what he is looking for, in the Madrid style, of course there is a new format in the UCL and that has benefited many teams , Leverkusen is not bad but it still needs that little bit of push.

Xabi has changed the mentality of Bayer Leverkusen, before Xabi, Leverkusen finished fourth or third and it was considered a good year, that mentality has changed and we can see it. When they finished third, people wanted more. To be second, to the top.
That mentality is something that I liked about Xabi and it means a lot, something that goes along with the philosophy of the competition and I'm happy to see the change in attitude of this club.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 03, 2025, 12:39:48 AM
Xabi has changed the mentality of Bayer Leverkusen, before Xabi, Leverkusen finished fourth or third and it was considered a good year, that mentality has changed and we can see it. When they finished third, people wanted more. To be second, to the top.
That mentality is something that I liked about Xabi and it means a lot, something that goes along with the philosophy of the competition and I'm happy to see the change in attitude of this club.
And they keep changing it because Leverkusen is one of the Teams that has had the best performance Since the start of the season, because for me the way Xabi faced the Bundesliga was very poor, Fortunately things have turned out the way they are and Things may be better now that they are in a very good Position , will they be able to go and win the Bundesliga against Bayern with everything they have now? They are at their best, but this implies a Great challenge for Xabi,  to beat a team that is at its highest level.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 03, 2025, 11:51:43 AM
Xabi has changed the mentality of Bayer Leverkusen, before Xabi, Leverkusen finished fourth or third and it was considered a good year, that mentality has changed and we can see it. When they finished third, people wanted more. To be second, to the top.
That mentality is something that I liked about Xabi and it means a lot, something that goes along with the philosophy of the competition and I'm happy to see the change in attitude of this club.
And they keep changing it because Leverkusen is one of the Teams that has had the best performance Since the start of the season, because for me the way Xabi faced the Bundesliga was very poor, Fortunately things have turned out the way they are and Things may be better now that they are in a very good Position , will they be able to go and win the Bundesliga against Bayern with everything they have now? They are at their best, but this implies a Great challenge for Xabi,  to beat a team that is at its highest level.

Leverkusen is still on track. Winning the title or not at the end of the season is not everything, how they play, the spirit, dedication, and hard work of the team to continue fighting until the end of the season are the main things that fans want to see, but we know, Dedication and hard work always pay off. :)

Welcome Alejo Sarco.... the signing of Alejo Sarco is for the future of Bayer Leverkusen.
Alejo is a good young player, He is a technically skilled player, fast, agile, and strong in duels.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on January 03, 2025, 12:37:58 PM
I am still waiting for the revival of Borussia Dortmund who this season they did not perform well, they are one of the big teams in the Bundesliga, they are even predicted as a team that can provide competition to Bayern Munich.

However, what they have shown in the last 2 seasons has not shown anything satisfactory, the previous season they were even saved to still be able to go to the Champions League because of the additional slot for the Bundesliga.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 04, 2025, 09:15:12 AM
I am still waiting for the revival of Borussia Dortmund who this season they did not perform well, they are one of the big teams in the Bundesliga, they are even predicted as a team that can provide competition to Bayern Munich.

However, what they have shown in the last 2 seasons has not shown anything satisfactory, the previous season they were even saved to still be able to go to the Champions League because of the additional slot for the Bundesliga.

Dortmund are actually looking for more players, they need reinforcements in defense in this transfer window but major investments are off the table.
The Board of Dortmund hopes to finalize a swap deal between Donyell Malen and Ian Maatsen from Villa.
And they are also monitoring the situation of LAFC's 18-year-old winger David Martinez.
So I wouldn't expect much change in their performances this year.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on January 04, 2025, 12:09:29 PM
I am still waiting for the revival of Borussia Dortmund who this season they did not perform well, they are one of the big teams in the Bundesliga, they are even predicted as a team that can provide competition to Bayern Munich.

However, what they have shown in the last 2 seasons has not shown anything satisfactory, the previous season they were even saved to still be able to go to the Champions League because of the additional slot for the Bundesliga.

Dortmund are actually looking for more players, they need reinforcements in defense in this transfer window but major investments are off the table.
The Board of Dortmund hopes to finalize a swap deal between Donyell Malen and Ian Maatsen from Villa.
And they are also monitoring the situation of LAFC's 18-year-old winger David Martinez.
So I wouldn't expect much change in their performances this year.
This happened because of what they did themselves, if only they did not prioritize money, I am sure they would now be a very solid team and also filled with very even player abilities.

But it's not too late, they are a team that has the ability to see young players with great potential. I hope they can maximize it to form a solid team, or at least they put achievement and business on the same level.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Zed0X on January 04, 2025, 10:19:40 PM
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But it's not too late, they are a team that has the ability to see young players with great potential. I hope they can maximize it to form a solid team, or at least they put achievement and business on the same level.
Unless they sell them before reaching their full potential ;D

It's been a while since I last checked this league because I thought it's becoming boring after Munich started pulling away. I was a bit surprised that Leverkusen is now close to them and giving them a run for their money.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: UNIVERSE on January 04, 2025, 11:33:46 PM
Xabi has changed the mentality of Bayer Leverkusen, before Xabi, Leverkusen finished fourth or third and it was considered a good year, that mentality has changed and we can see it. When they finished third, people wanted more. To be second, to the top.
That mentality is something that I liked about Xabi and it means a lot, something that goes along with the philosophy of the competition and I'm happy to see the change in attitude of this club.
Indeed, Xabi changes Leverkusen a lot. Since Xabi becomes the coach of Leverkusen, Leverkusen performed consistently in each season. Leverkusen becomes a stronger team and they have good mentality. Although they failed to win Europa league in the last season, they have already changed to be a big team in Bundesliga. I think Xabi has a chance to win again Bundesliga title this season, and they may have a chance to win UCL title if they can perform impressively in UCL.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on January 05, 2025, 08:03:16 AM
Xabi has changed the mentality of Bayer Leverkusen, before Xabi, Leverkusen finished fourth or third and it was considered a good year, that mentality has changed and we can see it. When they finished third, people wanted more. To be second, to the top.
That mentality is something that I liked about Xabi and it means a lot, something that goes along with the philosophy of the competition and I'm happy to see the change in attitude of this club.
Indeed, Xabi changes Leverkusen a lot. Since Xabi becomes the coach of Leverkusen, Leverkusen performed consistently in each season. Leverkusen becomes a stronger team and they have good mentality. Although they failed to win Europa league in the last season, they have already changed to be a big team in Bundesliga. I think Xabi has a chance to win again Bundesliga title this season, and they may have a chance to win UCL title if they can perform impressively in UCL.
Yes xabi is one coach who is exceptional with his job because before coming to Leverkusen a lot of people don't believe in his coaching abilities knowing that he is a new coach but he proved everyone wrong by turning things around by winning a league that has been dominated by Bayern Munich and became unbeaten that same season I record that will take many years to break in the future plus they got to the Europa League final so xabi has changed the way Leverkusen as a club was known or seen before because as it stands now it only Leverkusen that is giving Bayern Munich a tough time in the league as Leverkusen is currently on second position pilling up pressure on bayern that is on top of the bundesliga table and if they continue this way i see them winning the league title again
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on January 05, 2025, 12:29:31 PM
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But it's not too late, they are a team that has the ability to see young players with great potential. I hope they can maximize it to form a solid team, or at least they put achievement and business on the same level.
Unless they sell them before reaching their full potential ;D

It's been a while since I last checked this league because I thought it's becoming boring after Munich started pulling away. I was a bit surprised that Leverkusen is now close to them and giving them a run for their money.
Well that is the problem, they always sell their young players who have great potential to become big players and we have seen it for years.

For example 2 players who are currently in the Premier League and La Liga, Haaland and Bellingham. Both players were their players before they sold them for a very high profit. now we can see what contribution they can give, even Haaland helped Manchester City to win their first champions league title.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 05, 2025, 09:41:12 PM

Leverkusen is still on track. Winning the title or not at the end of the season is not everything, how they play, the spirit, dedication, and hard work of the team to continue fighting until the end of the season are the main things that fans want to see, but we know, Dedication and hard work always pay off. :)



It's a fact, things have always been like this, but considering all this, it can be said that Xabi knows very well what he's doing, he hasn't been completely carried away by the expectations and objectives that have been set for the UCL, the Bundeliga is a very important competition that they need to do things very well, that's why I see that they are doing excellently, if they continue like this I think they could fight for this Bundeliga for the second time, it would be Phenomenal to see this team win again, wow it would be a great lesson for many, especially for Bayern.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on January 06, 2025, 11:47:51 AM
Yes xabi is one coach who is exceptional with his job because before coming to Leverkusen a lot of people don't believe in his coaching abilities knowing that he is a new coach but he proved everyone wrong by turning things around by winning a league that has been dominated by Bayern Munich and became unbeaten that same season I record that will take many years to break in the future plus they got to the Europa League final so xabi has changed the way Leverkusen as a club was known or seen before because as it stands now it only Leverkusen that is giving Bayern Munich a tough time in the league as Leverkusen is currently on second position pilling up pressure on bayern that is on top of the bundesliga table and if they continue this way i see them winning the league title again
Xabi Alonso has done wonderful job to transform Bayer Leverkusen into a different football team that many people have not expected them to be. I can also say that his confirmation as the head master has supplied a new velvet to the Bundesliga competition and made the competition to be more balanced between various higher Ranking teams. There is clear evidence of growth and progression and the club is ready to again prove that they can play on the National as well as in the European level. Their position at the moment, the standings is direct evidence of the work of the team, where all the components contribute to the maximum achievement. Xabi has achieved that in some ways his approach unites both the robust character of players and mature approach which makes Leverkusen a rather challenging team to overcome. The great potential appears to have further improved in a better direction.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on January 09, 2025, 04:44:19 PM
The opponent that Bayern Munich will face in the next week is Monchengladbach, not a strong opponent, but not an opponent that they can underestimate. They have experienced 2 unpleasant results in the last 5 matches and maybe that will continue again.

On the other hand, Monchengladbach also has a fairly good appearance, although when compared to Bayern Munich's appearance they are still below Bayern Munich. But still they can be a real threat.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 09, 2025, 06:35:26 PM
The opponent that Bayern Munich will face in the next week is Monchengladbach, not a strong opponent, but not an opponent that they can underestimate. They have experienced 2 unpleasant results in the last 5 matches and maybe that will continue again.

On the other hand, Monchengladbach also has a fairly good appearance, although when compared to Bayern Munich's appearance they are still below Bayern Munich. But still they can be a real threat.

Bayern now has a tight and big game plan ahead. Unfortunately, the tide has caught up with Bayern. Jamal Musiala has to rest for a while due to a flu-like infection, Daniel Peretz is injured, and Manuel Neuer has not fully recovered. It's time for Svein Ulreich to showcase his class. He might be between the sticks at Borussia Park, where Bayern Munich will go up against Borussia Monchengladbach.
But I am optimistic that Bayern is ready and can win this game.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on January 09, 2025, 11:58:45 PM
The Bundesliga is back in action this weekend, with probably the most interesting game happening tomorrow (Dortmund playing Leverkusen at home).

Full fixtures for the weekend, together with odds are as follows:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/01/09/Or1rP.png)

I hope to see Leverkusen victorious tomorrow, even just for the sake of giving Bayern some serious competition and not falling too far behind, to keep things interesting. Borussia is probably starting to feel pressure and they will be desperate for points if they want to finish in the top 4. They are also a team that has the highest home/away Points-Per-Game difference.  On average, they earn 1.79 points more at home than they do in away games, which is huge. So it won't be an easy one for Leverkusen.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on January 10, 2025, 03:43:05 PM
The opponent that Bayern Munich will face in the next week is Monchengladbach, not a strong opponent, but not an opponent that they can underestimate. They have experienced 2 unpleasant results in the last 5 matches and maybe that will continue again.

On the other hand, Monchengladbach also has a fairly good appearance, although when compared to Bayern Munich's appearance they are still below Bayern Munich. But still they can be a real threat.

Bayern now has a tight and big game plan ahead. Unfortunately, the tide has caught up with Bayern. Jamal Musiala has to rest for a while due to a flu-like infection, Daniel Peretz is injured, and Manuel Neuer has not fully recovered. It's time for Svein Ulreich to showcase his class. He might be between the sticks at Borussia Park, where Bayern Munich will go up against Borussia Monchengladbach.
But I am optimistic that Bayern is ready and can win this game.
In terms of squad, Bayern Munich has a more even squad, so the absence of some players should not be a problem, especially since the opponents they will face are also not better than them in terms of strength.

Bayern Munich is the team with the best squad in the Bundesliga in my opinion, not only the main players, but the players on the bench also have good abilities to fill the gaps.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on January 10, 2025, 05:10:57 PM
In terms of squad, Bayern Munich has a more even squad, so the absence of some players should not be a problem, especially since the opponents they will face are also not better than them in terms of strength.

Bayern Munich is the team with the best squad in the Bundesliga in my opinion, not only the main players, but the players on the bench also have good abilities to fill the gaps.
Bayern Munich have solid squad for this season and the same qualities between main player with the players on the bench, its make easily for Vincent Kompany when rotating some players how to keep them from injury when busy schedule matches.
For second half season with Bayern Munich still have two matches left in Champion League I think many rotate make by Vincent Kompany keep their player fit without injury. Bayern will play three games for one week later and its important make rotation exactly have many crucial match for Bayern get the domestic league tittle race this season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on January 10, 2025, 06:14:52 PM
The Bundesliga is back in action this weekend, with probably the most interesting game happening tomorrow (Dortmund playing Leverkusen at home).

Full fixtures for the weekend, together with odds are as follows:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/01/09/Or1rP.png)

I hope to see Leverkusen victorious tomorrow, even just for the sake of giving Bayern some serious competition and not falling too far behind, to keep things interesting. Borussia is probably starting to feel pressure and they will be desperate for points if they want to finish in the top 4. They are also a team that has the highest home/away Points-Per-Game difference.  On average, they earn 1.79 points more at home than they do in away games, which is huge. So it won't be an easy one for Leverkusen.
The mach to watch out this weekend in the bundesliga fixtures is today's match between Dortmund and Leverkusen this match will be a cracker because both teams needs the three points badly as they hopes to build on the successes they made before the league went on the Christmas holiday
But I think Leverkusen will be the team to loss if they fail to get all three points against a Dortmund side that has not been classic as they use to in the past and convincing because they are really struggling while Leverkusen is in second position behind Bayarn Munich with on four points so a win for Leverkusen will help in closing the gap between the two teams and bring the league to an excitement mood because there will be competitiveness between the top two teams which will be decisive on who will be the champions of the bundesliga title
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: alltalk on January 10, 2025, 09:31:41 PM
We have the match Dortmund vs Leverkusen now. It is the first half of the match, Leverkusen is leading with 3 goals. Meanwhile Dortmund only could score 1 goal until now. It seems Leverkusen wants to secure their win since the first half of the match. They used an offensive formation, it is quite rare they are playing very offensive. However, it is likely very effective to deal with Dortmund strategy. I'm sure Leverkusen can score more goals and they will secure 3 points if they keep playing like this until the end of the match.  ;)



It is minute 45'. The first half of the match is almost over.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 10, 2025, 09:48:50 PM

Bayern Munich is the team with the best squad in the Bundesliga in my opinion, not only the main players, but the players on the bench also have good abilities to fill the gaps.

Yep. Bayern has a strong squad for this season and Kompany was quite successful in building a team with a positive atmosphere in the squad.
Players are motivated and enjoy training, and open communication, even if they aren’t playing regularly. This unity contrasts sharply with previous managers.
However, improvements are still needed in counterattack, defense, decision-making, and finishing.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on January 10, 2025, 10:57:00 PM
The long awaited match has been played a dB Leverkusen waa able to get all three points for themselves away from home. This victory has made it nine consecutive wins in al competitions and six straight win in Bundesliga. Dortmund dominated the aecond half but was only able to score one goal to end the match 3-2. However, Leverkusen scored all their three goals in the first 19 minutes of the first half.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on January 10, 2025, 11:09:49 PM
It is minute 45'. The first half of the match is almost over.
Match over.
And this is the result.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/01/10/Oh9bN.png)

Leverkusen did it very well this time, Xabi's tactics also worked well. It's just that in the second half, they were a bit less attacking, but it might be his tactics to be more persistent so they could maintain the score 1 - 3 before. It's just that, in the 79th minute, unfortunately Leverkusen was quite unlucky with a penalty kick for Dortmund which resulted in a goal. But it finally ended with Leverkusen's victory. Stats show Dortmund's dominance is much greater, but Leverkusen can play very effectively.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: debra on January 10, 2025, 11:26:05 PM
The long awaited match has been played a dB Leverkusen waa able to get all three points for themselves away from home. This victory has made it nine consecutive wins in al competitions and six straight win in Bundesliga. Dortmund dominated the aecond half but was only able to score one goal to end the match 3-2. However, Leverkusen scored all their three goals in the first 19 minutes of the first half.
Yes, finally Leverkusen won the match although it was a very tight match in the second half. I was a bit worried that Dortmund scored again another goal, so the match may end up with a draw result. Fortunately, Leverkusen could keep their leading with 1 goal until the end of the match.

Dortmund became stronger in the second half because Leverkusen seems playing a too defensive. It will be always dangerous if Leverkusen won't try to keep attacking in the second half. I think Xabi must learn something from this for the next matches.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on January 11, 2025, 12:11:12 AM
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/01/10/OhqJC.png)

Pretty entertaining opening of the new round after the winter break. especially the first half. After the 2nd goal for Leverkusen in the 8th minute, it could look like we might see a double-digit result by the end of the game, but Borussia put themselves together and fixed holes in their defence (well, somewhat).
As I posted earlier, defeating Borussia in front of their own fans is not an easy task as they tend to perform really well at home, so it's a pretty precious victory for Bayer.
Who knows, maybe they will manage to defend their title after all.
Until tomorrow, the gap between Bayern and Bayer is only 1 point.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on January 11, 2025, 12:39:57 AM
Some good news for Bochum. their previous 1-1 draw with Union Berlin got overturned by a German sports court to a 2-0 win. This is following an incident where Bochum's goalkeeper (Patrick Drewes) was hit by a lighter tossed at him by one of the Union Berlin supporters, who got irritated that Drews was taking too long and stalling the game to protect a favourable 1-1 draw.
Some say Drews didn't really suffer that much and he just used that opportunity to steal more time, but, nevertheless, Bochum will get rewarded with a win. I'm not sure if the decision is now official or if Union can still appeal, as this doesn't seem to be reflected in the official table yet.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/32713703/bundesliga-bochum-union-berlin-result-overturned/
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on January 11, 2025, 03:20:37 PM
In terms of squad, Bayern Munich has a more even squad, so the absence of some players should not be a problem, especially since the opponents they will face are also not better than them in terms of strength.

Bayern Munich is the team with the best squad in the Bundesliga in my opinion, not only the main players, but the players on the bench also have good abilities to fill the gaps.
Bayern Munich have solid squad for this season and the same qualities between main player with the players on the bench, its make easily for Vincent Kompany when rotating some players how to keep them from injury when busy schedule matches.
For second half season with Bayern Munich still have two matches left in Champion League I think many rotate make by Vincent Kompany keep their player fit without injury. Bayern will play three games for one week later and its important make rotation exactly have many crucial match for Bayern get the domestic league tittle race this season.
Yes indeed a team must have that, they must have players who are evenly distributed in the squad or at least the quality is not far from the main players.

Because some teams that end up having difficulties have lost their main players because they do not have players who can cover the gap when their main players are absent, due to injury, accumulation and so on.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on January 11, 2025, 04:08:13 PM
  This is the reason why teams should always prioritize quality players always because most average players that are struggling are in their current situation because there's lack of quality in the team and even those in the bench has no quality and is not good enough to start a match and perform optimally

In terms of squad, Bayern Munich has a more even squad, so the absence of some players should not be a problem, especially since the opponents they will face are also not better than them in terms of strength.

Bayern Munich is the team with the best squad in the Bundesliga in my opinion, not only the main players, but the players on the bench also have good abilities to fill the gaps.
Bayern Munich have solid squad for this season and the same qualities between main player with the players on the bench, its make easily for Vincent Kompany when rotating some players how to keep them from injury when busy schedule matches.
For second half season with Bayern Munich still have two matches left in Champion League I think many rotate make by Vincent Kompany keep their player fit without injury. Bayern will play three games for one week later and its important make rotation exactly have many crucial match for Bayern get the domestic league tittle race this season.


Because some teams that end up having difficulties have lost their main players because they do not have players who can cover the gap when their main players are absent, due to injury, accumulation and so on.
Yes indeed a team must have that, they must have players who are evenly distributed in the squad or at least the quality is not far from the main players

Most teams that struggle also sell their players without bringing in quality players to replace the once that are going but they do so because of the money that they get but over time you will find out that these teams struggle because there is no quality players in the team to drive the team to challenge for trophies so every team should always prioritize quality players and should set up a standard so before any player is brought into the team they most have met these standards
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on January 11, 2025, 08:24:08 PM
The long awaited match has been played a dB Leverkusen waa able to get all three points for themselves away from home. This victory has made it nine consecutive wins in al competitions and six straight win in Bundesliga. Dortmund dominated the aecond half but was only able to score one goal to end the match 3-2. However, Leverkusen scored all their three goals in the first 19 minutes of the first half.
Yes, finally Leverkusen won the match although it was a very tight match in the second half. I was a bit worried that Dortmund scored again another goal, so the match may end up with a draw result. Fortunately, Leverkusen could keep their leading with 1 goal until the end of the match.

Dortmund became stronger in the second half because Leverkusen seems playing a too defensive. It will be always dangerous if Leverkusen won't try to keep attacking in the second half. I think Xabi must learn something from this for the next matches.
Dortmund pressured Leverkusen defense to the point that I waa thinking that Dortmund might equalize the goal, but what made me calm down and believe that's impossible was when I flashed back to their performance last season, and how they were able to finish the league unbeaten. I had courage and  didn't worry much because my bet is what matters most to me.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on January 11, 2025, 10:38:44 PM
Dortmund pressured Leverkusen defense to the point that I waa thinking that Dortmund might equalize the goal, but what made me calm down and believe that's impossible was when I flashed back to their performance last season, and how they were able to finish the league unbeaten. I had courage and  didn't worry much because my bet is what matters most to me.
It makes sense, especially in the second half, Dortmund seemed to not give Leverkusen any space, they continued to threaten Leverkusen's back line. However, Leverkusen's defense was good enough so that they could still maintain the existing chances. Dortmund's last goal was also a penalty kick, after VAR consideration. Well, this was indeed a tense period, because since the penalty goal there were still about 15 minutes of the match going on. and anything could happen during the match. That's why, when the final whistle was blown, it felt relieved that Leverkusen became the winner.


Anyway, besides Leverkusen, Bayern Munich also continued their positive match results with a victory against Monchengladbach. Although only 0-1, a win is a win and Bayern Munich got 3 points, still leading in first place.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on January 11, 2025, 10:50:17 PM
The long awaited match has been played a dB Leverkusen waa able to get all three points for themselves away from home. This victory has made it nine consecutive wins in al competitions and six straight win in Bundesliga. Dortmund dominated the aecond half but was only able to score one goal to end the match 3-2. However, Leverkusen scored all their three goals in the first 19 minutes of the first half.
Yes, finally Leverkusen won the match although it was a very tight match in the second half. I was a bit worried that Dortmund scored again another goal, so the match may end up with a draw result. Fortunately, Leverkusen could keep their leading with 1 goal until the end of the match.

Dortmund became stronger in the second half because Leverkusen seems playing a too defensive. It will be always dangerous if Leverkusen won't try to keep attacking in the second half. I think Xabi must learn something from this for the next matches.
Dortmund pressured Leverkusen defense to the point that I waa thinking that Dortmund might equalize the goal, but what made me calm down and believe that's impossible was when I flashed back to their performance last season, and how they were able to finish the league unbeaten. I had courage and  didn't worry much because my bet is what matters most to me.
People may feel all sorts of emotions during intense matches based on the kind of interest or expectations to the results. When Dortmund stepped up the pace, it was easy for us to believe that the chances of a draw were still on but reflection on their performance record and strength of cohorts can be soothing as we adopt the forecast we make. That is why in such circumstances there is nothing wrong with keeping fairly realistic and afloat the expectations and dealing with the object losing control over it but still enjoying the process and the game. Perhaps what we hope to support or demand from this match can come to an end as planned.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on January 11, 2025, 11:34:48 PM
a win is a win and Bayern Munich got 3 points, still leading in first place.
The supporters of Bayern will still be happy. Not every win has to be beautiful or has to be by a lot of goals; in some games that are played in a league, a very strong team can perform unexpectedly by being held to a goalless draw, It would have been Bayern again, and that would have made the headline more for that than them not being able to score many goals in a game they dominated.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on January 12, 2025, 02:07:14 PM

Because some teams that end up having difficulties have lost their main players because they do not have players who can cover the gap when their main players are absent, due to injury, accumulation and so on.
Yes indeed a team must have that, they must have players who are evenly distributed in the squad or at least the quality is not far from the main players

Most teams that struggle also sell their players without bringing in quality players to replace the once that are going but they do so because of the money that they get but over time you will find out that these teams struggle because there is no quality players in the team to drive the team to challenge for trophies so every team should always prioritize quality players and should set up a standard so before any player is brought into the team they most have met these standards
Well, that's something we often see, they sell their main players, but they can't bring in players who can replace the role of the players who left well.

Not to belittle the players who came, because in the end they also need a process. That's what ultimately makes a team's performance in the following season not run well. What should be done is they already have a suitable replacement, but yes, that's also difficult actually.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 12, 2025, 07:33:46 PM

Leverkusen did it very well this time, Xabi's tactics also worked well. It's just that in the second half, they were a bit less attacking, but it might be his tactics to be more persistent so they could maintain the score 1 - 3 before. It's just that, in the 79th minute, unfortunately Leverkusen was quite unlucky with a penalty kick for Dortmund which resulted in a goal. But it finally ended with Leverkusen's victory. Stats show Dortmund's dominance is much greater, but Leverkusen can play very effectively.

Leverkusen is starting 2025 with a win but of course with conceding some good goals. :D
Anyway, it was a solid performance from the whole team, This win reminds me of all things Xabi Aura in 2024. Bayer Winnerkusen is back!
Patrik Schick is one of the best Czech goalscorers in the Bundesliga and he makes Victor Boniface no more relevant.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: sampoerna on January 14, 2025, 11:14:51 PM
a win is a win and Bayern Munich got 3 points, still leading in first place.
The supporters of Bayern will still be happy. Not every win has to be beautiful or has to be by a lot of goals; in some games that are played in a league, a very strong team can perform unexpectedly by being held to a goalless draw, It would have been Bayern again, and that would have made the headline more for that than them not being able to score many goals in a game they dominated.
Yes, because the point is to win, in a match, what's the point of playing very well, controlling ball possession and also doing a lot of attacks, but in the end it's just a draw or even a loss. So, win is always a win. and no matter what, it will always make the fans happy with their position which is still in 1st place in the Bundesliga.

Leverkusen did it very well this time, Xabi's tactics also worked well.
Leverkusen is starting 2025 with a win but of course with conceding some good goals. :D
Anyway, it was a solid performance from the whole team, This win reminds me of all things Xabi Aura in 2024. Bayer Winnerkusen is back!
Patrik Schick is one of the best Czech goalscorers in the Bundesliga and he makes Victor Boniface no more relevant.
At that time, at the beginning of the year and concede 2 goals, the opponent was Dortmund, although it is not as good now, Dortmund is still Dortmund which is one of the strong clubs in the Bundesliga. But the important thing is that they still win. and in the second match in this year, Leverkusen also won again from Mainz with a score of 1 - 0.

So here, Leverkusen so far at least in the last 5 matchers, they have won consecutively without defeat or even a draw.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on January 14, 2025, 11:49:55 PM
Another big win for Leverkusen in against a taught opponent. It's their 10th win in a row in all competitions (excluding a friendly game against Oberhausen) and 7th consecutive win in Bundesliga. This is pretty impressive. After not so great start of the season, they're starting to look more like the team from the past season, if not better. I'm again starting to believe they have a real chance of stopping Bayern and grabbing the title again this year.

We can't say the same about Dortmund. They simply got humiliated by Holstein-Kiel, who surprised the sloppy defense of Borussia with 3 goals in the first half. Dortmund responded with 2 goals, but got finished off with the last-second goal on an empty net and the game ended at 4-2. They dropped to 9th place and may drop even further after tomorrow's round.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 15, 2025, 10:32:04 AM

We can't say the same about Dortmund. They simply got humiliated by Holstein-Kiel, who surprised the sloppy defense of Borussia with 3 goals in the first half. Dortmund responded with 2 goals, but got finished off with the last-second goal on an empty net and the game ended at 4-2. They dropped to 9th place and may drop even further after tomorrow's round.

Dortmund have always had better opponents than them. Dominant in ball possession but no results.
Dortmund conceded four goals against Holstein Kiel, a promoted team that is now in the relegation zone, FOUR! I don't want to hear excuses. It's all a disgrace.
Thanks for the great entertainment. full confidence in the team, coach, and board, the progress is evident. Trust the process ;D
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on January 15, 2025, 11:54:48 PM
No surprises in Munich tonight. An absolute dominance by Bayern, who ran over Hoffenheim 5-0. The offensive power of Bayern this season is really impressive. They scored 53 league goals this season, which is 13 more than the second-best scoring team, Leverkusen (41 goals). This gives an incredible 3.12 goals per game, which I think might be their record-high. Of course a lot can change till the end of the season.

Looks like, after not-so-great start to the season, Stuttgart is finally waking up. They've won 4 out of their last 5 league games. Today's 2-1 win over Leipzig was a particularly important one, as Leipzig are their direct competitors for the top 4. And with a bit of luck they might even get through to another phase of the Champions League.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on January 16, 2025, 01:49:51 PM

We can't say the same about Dortmund. They simply got humiliated by Holstein-Kiel, who surprised the sloppy defense of Borussia with 3 goals in the first half. Dortmund responded with 2 goals, but got finished off with the last-second goal on an empty net and the game ended at 4-2. They dropped to 9th place and may drop even further after tomorrow's round.

Dortmund have always had better opponents than them. Dominant in ball possession but no results.
Dortmund conceded four goals against Holstein Kiel, a promoted team that is now in the relegation zone, FOUR! I don't want to hear excuses. It's all a disgrace.
Thanks for the great entertainment. full confidence in the team, coach, and board, the progress is evident. Trust the process ;D
We all agree that this is a shame, they have gone downhill a lot and it is very bad from what I thought before.

They should be able to learn from what they have achieved lately, it turns out they can't be better because they sold their talented players. now they have to be responsible by getting their performance back. Their coach is also under threat.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on January 16, 2025, 11:39:54 PM
There are fresh rumours about Eintracht's best striker, Omar Marmoush, signing a contract with Manchester City:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4g99lqe774o

It's not yet official, and the media are reporting on "verbal agreement". If this happens, it could be a big blow to Eintracht's attacking abilities. Marmoush is currently number 2 best scorer in the league with 15 goals.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 17, 2025, 12:45:00 PM
There are fresh rumours about Eintracht's best striker, Omar Marmoush, signing a contract with Manchester City:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4g99lqe774o

It's not yet official, and the media are reporting on "verbal agreement". If this happens, it could be a big blow to Eintracht's attacking abilities. Marmoush is currently number 2 best scorer in the league with 15 goals.

Vitor Reis, Khusanov… and now Marmoush. City is very aggressive in the January transfer window, Pep try buying the way out of trouble :)

The Bundesliga is a great way for Asian and African players to become stars in Europe, and it's pretty common for Bundesliga clubs to sell their star players.
And I don't think losing Marmoush will make Frankfurt slump, German football culture relies more on team collectives rather than relying on the quality of individuals, Frankfurt will survive the second half of the season. IMO
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on January 17, 2025, 02:53:14 PM
Frankfurt will host Borussia Dortmund this week and I predict the home team will win. With Borussia Dortmund's condition like this, I'm not sure they can win.

Frankfurt has a more promising game than Borussia Dortmund, that's what makes me predict they will be able to win. Frankfurt also definitely wants 3 points to maintain their position in the standings.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on January 18, 2025, 12:00:17 AM
Another victory for Eintracht, they are not stopping. It's their 3rd win in a row and they're currently only 2 points behind the 2nd Leverkusen, but only until tomorrow when I hope Leverkusen will earn another 3 points on Monchengladbach.
On the other hand, Dortmund's bad luck continues. It was their 3rd straight loss in the league and it's getting clearer that the top 4 might have just got beyond their reach. Luckily they still have Champions League to play with decent chances of getting through to the next round. And looks like they're looking to strengthen their attack with attempts of getting Marcus Rashford on loan from Man United:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rashford-future-borussia-dortmund-tenhag-34498137
 
Fixtures + odds for tomorrow/Sunday games:
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Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on January 18, 2025, 02:33:22 PM
In the near future we will see the match between Bayern Munich vs Wolfsburg, on paper Bayern Munich is a team that is highly favored to be able to achieve a victory. However, they should not underestimate the visiting team, because Wolfsburg has the ability to beat them.

I think the course of the game will be dominated by Bayern Munich and Wolfsburg will rely more on counterattacks.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 18, 2025, 04:03:33 PM
Another victory for Eintracht, they are not stopping. It's their 3rd win in a row and they're currently only 2 points behind the 2nd Leverkusen, but only until tomorrow when I hope Leverkusen will earn another 3 points on Monchengladbach.
On the other hand, Dortmund's bad luck continues. It was their 3rd straight loss in the league and it's getting clearer that the top 4 might have just got beyond their reach. Luckily they still have Champions League to play with decent chances of getting through to the next round. And looks like they're looking to strengthen their attack with attempts of getting Marcus Rashford on loan from Man United:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rashford-future-borussia-dortmund-tenhag-34498137
 

Losing in three games in which Dortmund had more than 65% possession each time, has the management not noticed something? Enough is enough! Something has to change and I also think it is a shame.
At some point, we must realize that the “wrong man” on the head coach will only make Dortmund collapse completely.
Let's see what decisions the Board will make after this beat.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on January 18, 2025, 04:42:19 PM
There is goal rush in this weekend matches in the bundesliga as a lot of goals are being scored Bayarn Munich is currently leading 2:1 against Wolfsburg, while Leipzig lead Bochum by 0:3, stuggard are also leading Freiburg by 3:0 at home while the game between Hoffenheim and holstein Hoffenheim leads by 2: 0 by the halftime mark let see how the final results will turn out to be in these games
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: alltalk on January 18, 2025, 09:55:09 PM
In the near future we will see the match between Bayern Munich vs Wolfsburg, on paper Bayern Munich is a team that is highly favored to be able to achieve a victory. However, they should not underestimate the visiting team, because Wolfsburg has the ability to beat them. I think the course of the game will be dominated by Bayern Munich and Wolfsburg will rely more on counterattacks.
The match has been over already. Bayern Munich won the match as expected. Bayern Munich really dominated the match, they played very offensive in this match. But it was not an easy match for Bayern Munich because the match almost ended up with a draw. It is true that Wolfsburg isn't a weak team. Although they played rather defensive, they could score 2 goals. Wolfsburg knows well how to use a counter-attack strategy.


Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on January 18, 2025, 10:37:18 PM
There is goal rush in this weekend matches in the bundesliga as a lot of goals are being scored Bayarn Munich is currently leading 2:1 against Wolfsburg, while Leipzig lead Bochum by 0:3, stuggard are also leading Freiburg by 3:0 at home while the game between Hoffenheim and holstein Hoffenheim leads by 2: 0 by the halftime mark let see how the final results will turn out to be in these games
The two most most important teams currently in the Bundesliga that I always look out for are Bayern and Bayer Leverkusen who are in a hot battle for who wins the Bundesliga. The two of them won their games today, so I guess the title chase continues with today favouring both teams. 

No Harry Kane goal for Bayern, but Michael Olise who got the headlines. Bayern would have drawn the game, Bayer Leverkusen's goal difference was more convincing.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 19, 2025, 10:15:45 AM
In the near future we will see the match between Bayern Munich vs Wolfsburg, on paper Bayern Munich is a team that is highly favored to be able to achieve a victory. However, they should not underestimate the visiting team, because Wolfsburg has the ability to beat them. I think the course of the game will be dominated by Bayern Munich and Wolfsburg will rely more on counterattacks.
The match has been over already. Bayern Munich won the match as expected. Bayern Munich really dominated the match, they played very offensive in this match. But it was not an easy match for Bayern Munich because the match almost ended up with a draw. It is true that Wolfsburg isn't a weak team. Although they played rather defensive, they could score 2 goals. Wolfsburg knows well how to use a counter-attack strategy.

A hard-earned home win!
Goretzka was very strong today, he scored 2 goals and was the hero. Goretzka also played a good game when he didn't score, not only in this game.
The most important thing is three points, but the exploitation of chances was poor, and at times there was a lack of determination, concentration, and clarity both in attack and defense. Imagine if Wolfsburg had the same number of chances as Bayern. Bayern should have won easily 6-2
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on January 19, 2025, 01:00:43 PM
In the near future we will see the match between Bayern Munich vs Wolfsburg, on paper Bayern Munich is a team that is highly favored to be able to achieve a victory. However, they should not underestimate the visiting team, because Wolfsburg has the ability to beat them. I think the course of the game will be dominated by Bayern Munich and Wolfsburg will rely more on counterattacks.
The match has been over already. Bayern Munich won the match as expected. Bayern Munich really dominated the match, they played very offensive in this match. But it was not an easy match for Bayern Munich because the match almost ended up with a draw. It is true that Wolfsburg isn't a weak team. Although they played rather defensive, they could score 2 goals. Wolfsburg knows well how to use a counter-attack strategy.

A hard-earned home win!
Goretzka was very strong today, he scored 2 goals and was the hero. Goretzka also played a good game when he didn't score, not only in this game.
The most important thing is three points, but the exploitation of chances was poor, and at times there was a lack of determination, concentration, and clarity both in attack and defense. Imagine if Wolfsburg had the same number of chances as Bayern. Bayern should have won easily 6-2
Bayern Munich approach towards this game was not encouraging as they showed not looking good during this match Wolfsburg would have made it 3:3 had it been that they took all their chances that came their way bundesliga is getting more competitive this season and looking at where Bayern Munich is in the league table you could tell that they are not safe on top of the league table be because it's only four points that separate bayern munich and Leverkusen so going forward bayern munich has to step up their game and approach all games with a level of seriousness and competitiveness as any game that they drop points they will have themselves to blame as Leverkusen is coming from their back
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on January 19, 2025, 01:17:12 PM
In the near future we will see the match between Bayern Munich vs Wolfsburg, on paper Bayern Munich is a team that is highly favored to be able to achieve a victory. However, they should not underestimate the visiting team, because Wolfsburg has the ability to beat them. I think the course of the game will be dominated by Bayern Munich and Wolfsburg will rely more on counterattacks.
The match has been over already. Bayern Munich won the match as expected. Bayern Munich really dominated the match, they played very offensive in this match. But it was not an easy match for Bayern Munich because the match almost ended up with a draw. It is true that Wolfsburg isn't a weak team. Although they played rather defensive, they could score 2 goals. Wolfsburg knows well how to use a counter-attack strategy.
Yes, it was not an easy match, but they managed to finish it well. They played very aggressively, that is what they usually do. Wolfsburg tried to hold back, but they were not strong enough to withstand every attack built by Bayern Munich.

This victory makes them solid at the top of the standings, but even so they also have to remain vigilant because the threat is below them if they slip up.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on January 19, 2025, 02:33:24 PM
Another 3 points for Leverkusen and Bayern, so no changes in the top 3, but worth noting an impressive 4-0 win by Stuttgart (3rd in a row). Freiburg is a solid team and I didn't expect them to lose that easily.
While Leipzig couldn't handle the last in the tale Bochum and the game ended with a 1-1 draw, Stuttgart now got up to the 4th place while Leipzig dropped down to 5th, and will drop to 6th if Mainz manages to earn 3 points on Union Berlin this evening.

If Stuttgart stabilise their form at the current level, they might very well end up in the top 3. I guess I wrote them down a bit too early.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 21, 2025, 08:10:04 PM
Bayern Munich approach towards this game was not encouraging as they showed not looking good during this match Wolfsburg would have made it 3:3 had it been that they took all their chances that came their way bundesliga is getting more competitive this season and looking at where Bayern Munich is in the league table you could tell that they are not safe on top of the league table be because it's only four points that separate bayern munich and Leverkusen so going forward bayern munich has to step up their game and approach all games with a level of seriousness and competitiveness as any game that they drop points they will have themselves to blame as Leverkusen is coming from their back

Yep. Wolfsburg made it way closer than it ever should have been with the overall control Bayern had, Some terrible finishing and defense made for a way closer match than it should have been.
And the next game is Feyenoord in UCL, hard work to clinch a ticket to the Round of 16.
Bayern is one point off the automatic qualification spot due to their losses to Aston Villa and Barcelona.
I hope Harry can score again in tomorrow's game, not just from the penalty spot.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on January 21, 2025, 08:26:21 PM
Bayern Munich approach towards this game was not encouraging as they showed not looking good during this match Wolfsburg would have made it 3:3 had it been that they took all their chances that came their way bundesliga is getting more competitive this season and looking at where Bayern Munich is in the league table you could tell that they are not safe on top of the league table be because it's only four points that separate bayern munich and Leverkusen so going forward bayern munich has to step up their game and approach all games with a level of seriousness and competitiveness as any game that they drop points they will have themselves to blame as Leverkusen is coming from their back

Yep. Wolfsburg made it way closer than it ever should have been with the overall control Bayern had, Some terrible finishing and defense made for a way closer match than it should have been.
And the next game is Feyenoord in UCL, hard work to clinch a ticket to the Round of 16.
Bayern is one point off the automatic qualification spot due to their losses to Aston Villa and Barcelona.
I hope Harry can score again in tomorrow's game, not just from the penalty spot.
Bayern Munich has to do well moving forward because from the last match that they played against Wolfsburg this weekend there where a lot of lop holes that where spotted in the team especially at the back line which allowed a team like Wolfsburg to score two goals against bayern munich team that was playing at home this calls for concern and they needs to improve on their game moving forward especially in tomorrow's champions League game that is coming up against feeyenord in Netherlands this match will be a tough one for bayern munich because feeyenord too needs a win to keep their chances of qualifying into the second phase of the champions League

Feeyenord is one side that is a force to recoun with as they play a good and attracting brand of football scoring plenty of goals so bayern has to be clinical in the game especially in front of goals as feeyenord will do everything to frustrates bayern munich and if possible gets a win in the game
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on January 21, 2025, 11:23:18 PM
Not the best performance by Leverkusen in the Champions League tonight. They lost 2-1 against strong Atletico despite having one player advantage (due to Atletico's red card)) from the 25th minute and taking a lead at the end of the 1st half.
If they were to win, they would pretty much guarantee themselves advance to the next stage, but now they'd have to win the last round against Sparta Prague, which they probably will though.
Dortmund failed again. They succumbed to Bologna 2-1 after a poor game during which they struggled to create any chances, with only 3 shots on goal and they could only score from a penalty. In their last 10 games, they won only twice, drew 3 times, and lost 5 times. This is not what would be expected from a top team and the previous season's Champions League finalists.

The only team that defended the honour of German football and won their game tonight was Stuttgart, who are clearly on an uptrend right now. A comfy win 3-1 over Slovan Bratislava currently places them in the play-offs zone.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on January 22, 2025, 05:40:46 AM
Bayern Munich approach towards this game was not encouraging as they showed not looking good during this match Wolfsburg would have made it 3:3 had it been that they took all their chances that came their way bundesliga is getting more competitive this season and looking at where Bayern Munich is in the league table you could tell that they are not safe on top of the league table be because it's only four points that separate bayern munich and Leverkusen so going forward bayern munich has to step up their game and approach all games with a level of seriousness and competitiveness as any game that they drop points they will have themselves to blame as Leverkusen is coming from their back

Yep. Wolfsburg made it way closer than it ever should have been with the overall control Bayern had, Some terrible finishing and defense made for a way closer match than it should have been.
And the next game is Feyenoord in UCL, hard work to clinch a ticket to the Round of 16.
Bayern is one point off the automatic qualification spot due to their losses to Aston Villa and Barcelona.
I hope Harry can score again in tomorrow's game, not just from the penalty spot.
Bayern Munich has to do well moving forward because from the last match that they played against Wolfsburg this weekend there where a lot of lop holes that where spotted in the team especially at the back line which allowed a team like Wolfsburg to score two goals against bayern munich team that was playing at home this calls for concern and they needs to improve on their game moving forward especially in tomorrow's champions League game that is coming up against feeyenord in Netherlands this match will be a tough one for bayern munich because feeyenord too needs a win to keep their chances of qualifying into the second phase of the champions League

Feeyenord is one side that is a force to recoun with as they play a good and attracting brand of football scoring plenty of goals so bayern has to be clinical in the game especially in front of goals as feeyenord will do everything to frustrates bayern munich and if possible gets a win in the game
Yes, Bayern Munich must be stronger on key games and when they open some vulnerable positions at the back like in the case with Wolfsburg. To face a Feyenoord of Netherlands will definitely be a big Major feat since this Team has been known to posses high spirited Attacking formations during its games. As viewed to achieving the objective or come out as winner, there are certain factors that need to be enhanced in this game by the Bayern with specific reference to the following; Below par efficiency is observation in the conversion of opportunities in front of goal area, while, coordination in the defence line of the team. Feyenoord will do everything that they can to get maximum result on the field and that is why Bayern must be ready to just play with maximum bright and a little bit more mature. Perhaps this will be a chance to demonstrate it in this match and become one of the best teams in Europe.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 22, 2025, 10:34:05 AM
Yes, Bayern Munich must be stronger on key games and when they open some vulnerable positions at the back like in the case with Wolfsburg. To face a Feyenoord of Netherlands will definitely be a big Major feat since this Team has been known to posses high spirited Attacking formations during its games. As viewed to achieving the objective or come out as winner, there are certain factors that need to be enhanced in this game by the Bayern with specific reference to the following; Below par efficiency is observation in the conversion of opportunities in front of goal area, while, coordination in the defence line of the team. Feyenoord will do everything that they can to get maximum result on the field and that is why Bayern must be ready to just play with maximum bright and a little bit more mature. Perhaps this will be a chance to demonstrate it in this match and become one of the best teams in Europe.

The match against Feyenoord should be Bayern's top priority right now and with the new format, we can't differentiate between small and big teams.
If Bayern performs as they did against Wolfsburg, then I'm sure they will have a hard time beating Feyenoord in the Rotterdam, but Bayern have a lot of experience in UCL and the atmosphere will motivate their players to win the match.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on January 23, 2025, 01:16:25 PM
Hard to disagree with Dortmund's decision to sack Sahin. It's not clear if he's primarily to blame for the poor performance, or should the blame go to players, but the club owners cannot replace the whole team and replacing the manager is the only thing that can be done.
Dortmund is indeed doing pretty bad in the league, the average points per game ratio is only 1.39, that's the worse since 2014-15 season.
They were expected to fight for winning the league, but they're closer to the relegation zone than they are to Bayern.

On top of that, the loan transfer of Marcus Rashford from Man United fell through, as Dortmund could not meet his pay demands.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14316681/Borussia-Dortmund-Marcus-Rashford-Man-United-European.html
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on January 23, 2025, 03:06:27 PM
Hard to disagree with Dortmund's decision to sack Sahin. It's not clear if he's primarily to blame for the poor performance, or should the blame go to players, but the club owners cannot replace the whole team and replacing the manager is the only thing that can be done.
Dortmund is indeed doing pretty bad in the league, the average points per game ratio is only 1.39, that's the worse since 2014-15 season.
They were expected to fight for winning the league, but they're closer to the relegation zone than they are to Bayern.

On top of that, the loan transfer of Marcus Rashford from Man United fell through, as Dortmund could not meet his pay demands.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14316681/Borussia-Dortmund-Marcus-Rashford-Man-United-European.html
The coach will be the first person to be blamed when the team cannot perform well, and now Sahin feels it. Blaming the players? I think that is very rare and even as far as I can remember it has never happened.

Borussia Dortmund took a step, I can't say whether this is the right step or not, because there is no guarantee that the new coach can bring them better.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on January 23, 2025, 06:52:04 PM
Sahin has nothing to say or no one to blame because he has really failed and fallen short of expectations because his team was really bad and has been struggling right from the start of the season and we are almost at the middle of the season so there's no excuse that he has to give because if any player doesn't play according to instructions he would put the player on the bench so Dortmund letting him go is the best option at this present point in time for the sake of the club
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 23, 2025, 10:00:01 PM

Borussia Dortmund took a step, I can't say whether this is the right step or not, because there is no guarantee that the new coach can bring them better.

After Nuri Sahin was sacked, Mike Tullberg took over as interim coach when Dortmund faced Werder Bremen on Saturday. Tullberg is the coach of Dortmund's U19 team, this is a new level for him, and I don't know what the players are thinking when they are constantly given coaches who have no experience at that level, but let's wait and see what happens.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on January 23, 2025, 10:29:06 PM

Borussia Dortmund took a step, I can't say whether this is the right step or not, because there is no guarantee that the new coach can bring them better.

After Nuri Sahin was sacked, Mike Tullberg took over as interim coach when Dortmund faced Werder Bremen on Saturday. Tullberg is the coach of Dortmund's U19 team, this is a new level for him, and I don't know what the players are thinking when they are constantly given coaches who have no experience at that level, but let's wait and see what happens.
It is almost always the case that variety in a team creates new issues and enhancements. If the person we are used to being at a lower rank is assigned a leadership role, it becomes a perfect time for us to step in and allow them to showcase themselves. This is the situation where the getting there to something good ends up in things that may not seem quite so positive, but there is still something positive which can occur. This situation is also characteristic of the world of football, any team requires not only individual thinkers who can create an environment conducive to success. In a long term concept of practice, all the parties involved have the rights to overcome together with sharing their best in any situation.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on January 24, 2025, 01:19:53 PM

Borussia Dortmund took a step, I can't say whether this is the right step or not, because there is no guarantee that the new coach can bring them better.

After Nuri Sahin was sacked, Mike Tullberg took over as interim coach when Dortmund faced Werder Bremen on Saturday. Tullberg is the coach of Dortmund's U19 team, this is a new level for him, and I don't know what the players are thinking when they are constantly given coaches who have no experience at that level, but let's wait and see what happens.
Well, I actually see an opportunity for their young coach to be able to take over the main team, I don't mean this is an opportunity for him, because if he manages to show something impressive, then management might consider it.

In addition, if it continues, then he can do something like promoting some young players in the previous team. Moreover, I think management will not mind that. However, he must first show his ability.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on January 24, 2025, 08:24:20 PM

After Nuri Sahin was sacked, Mike Tullberg took over as interim coach when Dortmund faced Werder Bremen on Saturday. Tullberg is the coach of Dortmund's U19 team, this is a new level for him, and I don't know what the players are thinking when they are constantly given coaches who have no experience at that level, but let's wait and see what happens.
The interim coach will not be for long.

Erik Ten Hag is linked to the job at Dortmund, and although his career at Manchester United may not be considered suitable or adequate for him to land the job, I still think he can be a good fit to the team and help them back from this poor performance. ETH has enough experience to be able to dominate the German league.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on January 24, 2025, 10:13:53 PM
Some potentially tough games for both Bayern and Leverkusen tomorrow.
Bayern is playing away against Freiburg and are x1.30 favourite, but if we look at the stats, Freiburg has only lost one time at home this season, so it might not be as easy game for Bayern as bookies might think.

Leverkusen is playing Leipzig (away) and Leipzig also lost only one game at home and despite the recent dip in form (3 games without a win in a row), they can still be dangerous.

Meanwhile, Holsten-Kiel just scored an equaliser and are drawing with Wolfsburg 2-2.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on January 24, 2025, 11:34:03 PM

After Nuri Sahin was sacked, Mike Tullberg took over as interim coach when Dortmund faced Werder Bremen on Saturday. Tullberg is the coach of Dortmund's U19 team, this is a new level for him, and I don't know what the players are thinking when they are constantly given coaches who have no experience at that level, but let's wait and see what happens.
The interim coach will not be for long.

Erik Ten Hag is linked to the job at Dortmund, and although his career at Manchester United may not be considered suitable or adequate for him to land the job, I still think he can be a good fit to the team and help them back from this poor performance. ETH has enough experience to be able to dominate the German league.
I believe that Erik Ten Hag as a potential candidate for the Dortmund position could open another interesting opportunity for us as well. One can notice that he is useful if a team wants to find some optimization to step up in the ranks. In the field of football competition, one can have seen that leadership qualities can make changes in the past. This is an assurance that he can mobilise the team to enhance the results being recorded in the team. We are more confident that with determination of work, proper managerial skills Erik Ten Hag will do everything possible to have Dortmund stand and become one of the reputable teams in the German league. Of course, passion and complete support are definitely components that are needed to embrace this change.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on January 25, 2025, 04:49:33 PM
Some potentially tough games for both Bayern and Leverkusen tomorrow.
Bayern is playing away against Freiburg and are x1.30 favourite, but if we look at the stats, Freiburg has only lost one time at home this season, so it might not be as easy game for Bayern as bookies might think.

Leverkusen is playing Leipzig (away) and Leipzig also lost only one game at home and despite the recent dip in form (3 games without a win in a row), they can still be dangerous.

Meanwhile, Holsten-Kiel just scored an equaliser and are drawing with Wolfsburg 2-2.
These are tough games that both Leverkusen and bayern munich as they are currently leading each of their respective games currently going on now in the German bundesliga with Leverkusen leading 1:2 away  to Leipzig and bayern Munich leads Freiburg 0:1 at way these games are a litmus test for each of them if they are serious about winning the league because at this point in time any of them that drops points will be doing it at the cost of the league title that they intend to win this season but this is still first half so there still time left but they have to maintain this lead that they have now
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 25, 2025, 09:03:25 PM

Erik Ten Hag is linked to the job at Dortmund, and although his career at Manchester United may not be considered suitable or adequate for him to land the job, I still think he can be a good fit to the team and help them back from this poor performance. ETH has enough experience to be able to dominate the German league.

Yeah, I heard the rumors... Erik Ten Hag is on Dortmund's list to succeed Nuri Sahin as manager but I think Erik Ten Hag will not be Dortmund's new head coach, The financial package would be too expensive. Dortmund should look elsewhere for a new head coach!
Roger Schmidt and Niko Kovač are better candidates for Dortmund. IMO
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on January 25, 2025, 11:59:18 PM
Some potentially tough games for both Bayern and Leverkusen tomorrow.
Leverkusen dropped points against Leipzig; Bayern Munich got all three points in their game. Extra advantage for Bayern Munich coming from a disappointing Champions League performance.

I feel Bayern should focus more on winning the Bundesliga this season than the Champions League that looks gone already.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on January 26, 2025, 05:09:29 AM
Some potentially tough games for both Bayern and Leverkusen tomorrow.
Leverkusen dropped points against Leipzig; Bayern Munich got all three points in their game. Extra advantage for Bayern Munich coming from a disappointing Champions League performance.

I feel Bayern should focus more on winning the Bundesliga this season than the Champions League that looks gone already.
Pretending to be consistent in the Bundesliga is of course a very strategic step for us as a big club. The success in local tournaments is a perfect basis for club’s recognition on the European level and guarantees stable moral for players. Of course the Champions League does offer its own brand of exciting football but as the results in this specific competition have shown football in the final rounds is often up for grabs. On the other hand, winning the Bundesliga makes for the certainty of other tangible accomplishments on the sports team level, and as well sustains the club as a champion. When domestic performance is maintained one is also able to create avenues for which we build a better strength in the future. Everything mentioned above proclaims the necessity of focusing on those actions that may being the greatest effects for the team.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on January 26, 2025, 01:59:14 PM
Some potentially tough games for both Bayern and Leverkusen tomorrow.
Leverkusen dropped points against Leipzig; Bayern Munich got all three points in their game. Extra advantage for Bayern Munich coming from a disappointing Champions League performance.

I feel Bayern should focus more on winning the Bundesliga this season than the Champions League that looks gone already.
I think they prioritize both to be champions. The opportunity is there and they have to make the most of it. In the Champions League they have already ensured that they can qualify for the play-offs at least, so in the last match they can rotate to maintain the physical condition of their players to prepare for the play-offs. Or they have to win to be able to qualify directly.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on January 26, 2025, 05:17:14 PM
I think they prioritize both to be champions. The opportunity is there and they have to make the most of it. In the Champions League they have already ensured that they can qualify for the play-offs at least, so in the last match they can rotate to maintain the physical condition of their players to prepare for the play-offs. Or they have to win to be able to qualify directly.
Regarding with current points, Bayern Munich have been qualify trough playoff round in Champion League but still have opportunity break to the top eight standings position if can win last match and waiting the higher standings teams result. Actually Bayern Munich must prepare in Champion League for playing at playoff round because very difficult have wait several higher standings teams result.
But in domestic league Bayern have 6 points left awhile from Leverkusen after being draw in this week from Leipzig, its good trend for Bayern have many points left and secure the bundesliga trophy as soon possible.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 26, 2025, 06:02:09 PM
Some potentially tough games for both Bayern and Leverkusen tomorrow.
Leverkusen dropped points against Leipzig; Bayern Munich got all three points in their game. Extra advantage for Bayern Munich coming from a disappointing Champions League performance.

I feel Bayern should focus more on winning the Bundesliga this season than the Champions League that looks gone already.
I think they prioritize both to be champions. The opportunity is there and they have to make the most of it. In the Champions League they have already ensured that they can qualify for the play-offs at least, so in the last match they can rotate to maintain the physical condition of their players to prepare for the play-offs. Or they have to win to be able to qualify directly.

Yep. Winning the Champions League is the ultimate goal of every European club.
Bayern is a big team. As a big team, Bayern has a good squad to continue competing in both competitions, qualifying directly for the round of 16 or through the playoffs doesn't matter.
And Kompany knew from the first day he agreed to become Bayern coach that if he couldn't win the trophies, he must leave
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on January 26, 2025, 06:45:18 PM
Bayern Munich is a big club in Europe but they have not been convincing in their performance of late as they lost in the champions League game against feeyenord and also in their bundesliga game against Freiburg they where not that fantastic because they would hav draw that game if not that Freiburg was not clinical at goal if they must go far in the champions League this season they must increase level level of performance because even at home in the bundesliga Leverkusen is close to them so there's no guarantee that they will win so bayern has to be consistent in their play
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 27, 2025, 12:16:30 PM
Bayern Munich is a big club in Europe but they have not been convincing in their performance of late as they lost in the champions League game against feeyenord and also in their bundesliga game against Freiburg they where not that fantastic because they would hav draw that game if not that Freiburg was not clinical at goal if they must go far in the champions League this season they must increase level level of performance because even at home in the bundesliga Leverkusen is close to them so there's no guarantee that they will win so bayern has to be consistent in their play

You are absolutely right. It's still a misery to be solved for German giants :)
Vincent Kompany is not the best option for Bayern Munich right now, but He has worked very hard and tried to do well
But we are talking about Bayern, where many players have salaries up to 15-20m/year, No excuses for defeat.
The fans even are not accept anything less than a solid victory against any team in the Bundesliga and UCL
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on January 27, 2025, 01:31:27 PM
Leverkusen dropped points this weekend again to let bayern munich increase their points lead in the German bundesliga I was really expecting a win from Leverkusen knowing the task that is ahead of them that is ahead of them because dropping points is not a good one for the team's hopes of reclaiming their title this season because this season Leverkusen has really dropped in form they are different from what they where known for in their last season performance where they won every trophy in Germany but this season they started poorly and also lack of form contributed to this as they are currently sitting in second place behind Bayarn Munich but the point difference is about seven points so if they can maintain their form and stop dropping points the way they are doing currently they will definitely reclaim their title
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on January 27, 2025, 07:09:10 PM
Leverkusen dropped points this weekend again to let bayern munich increase their points lead in the German bundesliga I was really expecting a win from Leverkusen knowing the task that is ahead of them that is ahead of them because dropping points is not a good one for the team's hopes of reclaiming their title this season because this season Leverkusen has really dropped in form they are different from what they where known for in their last season performance where they won every trophy in Germany but this season they started poorly and also lack of form contributed to this as they are currently sitting in second place behind Bayarn Munich but the point difference is about seven points so if they can maintain their form and stop dropping points the way they are doing currently they will definitely reclaim their title
Leipzig is not an average club and they are currently in their best form. This was why you saw them putting themselves back into the game from two goals down, they were able to equalize and draw the match. Sharing point was the best thing for than losing. On the other hand, Bayern is keeping up their consistency and they're more desperate of winning the title this season than Leverkusen.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on January 28, 2025, 03:24:57 PM
Well done for Bayern for earning 3 points on Freiburg. I knew it won't be an easy game as Freiburg tends to lose points by draws not losses, but, despite not having that many scoring chances, Bayern managed to grab a win.
Unfortunately Leverkusen wasted their 2 goals advantage they had over Leipzig up until the 41st minute and they let Leipzig take the initiative and eventually level the score to 2-2.
Now the gap between the first Bayern and 2nd Bayer grew to six points and it will be really hard for Bayer to make that difference up. They will be playing against Bayern at home on 15th Feb, and if they fail to win, it'll be really hard for them to defend their Bundesliga champions title.

Another game without a win for Dortmund, but I don't think anyone is surprised by that. To their credit, they managed to take a 2-0 lead despite being down to 10 men, but were unable to carry that to the final whistle.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 29, 2025, 08:35:01 AM
Leverkusen dropped points this weekend again to let bayern munich increase their points lead in the German bundesliga I was really expecting a win from Leverkusen knowing the task that is ahead of them that is ahead of them because dropping points is not a good one for the team's hopes of reclaiming their title this season because this season Leverkusen has really dropped in form they are different from what they where known for in their last season performance where they won every trophy in Germany but this season they started poorly and also lack of form contributed to this as they are currently sitting in second place behind Bayarn Munich but the point difference is about seven points so if they can maintain their form and stop dropping points the way they are doing currently they will definitely reclaim their title
Leipzig is not an average club and they are currently in their best form. This was why you saw them putting themselves back into the game from two goals down, they were able to equalize and draw the match. Sharing point was the best thing for than losing. On the other hand, Bayern is keeping up their consistency and they're more desperate of winning the title this season than Leverkusen.

Yeah. Leipzig is a good team. Under Marco Rose, Leipzig gets the ball to the attackers as quickly and directly as possible, but they're also very patient and organized in the build-up phase.
Leipzig's game reminded me of Real Madrid, they ping that long ball into the final third after coming out the pressure calmed down.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on January 29, 2025, 03:08:45 PM
I think they prioritize both to be champions. The opportunity is there and they have to make the most of it. In the Champions League they have already ensured that they can qualify for the play-offs at least, so in the last match they can rotate to maintain the physical condition of their players to prepare for the play-offs. Or they have to win to be able to qualify directly.
Regarding with current points, Bayern Munich have been qualify trough playoff round in Champion League but still have opportunity break to the top eight standings position if can win last match and waiting the higher standings teams result. Actually Bayern Munich must prepare in Champion League for playing at playoff round because very difficult have wait several higher standings teams result.
But in domestic league Bayern have 6 points left awhile from Leverkusen after being draw in this week from Leipzig, its good trend for Bayern have many points left and secure the bundesliga trophy as soon possible.
They must prepare a strategy, including their strategy in maintaining their position in the Bundesliga if at any time they experience a difficult situation such as a storm of injuries for example.

They are in a very advantageous position, but that does not mean it is easy, because usually maintaining will be more difficult than winning. However, they have very good experience, so they should be used to all the pressure.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 29, 2025, 04:28:29 PM
g Another game without a win for Dortmund, but I don't think anyone is surprised by that. To their credit, they managed to take a 2-0 lead despite being down to 10 men, but were unable to carry that to the final whistle.

Lately Dortmund is a team that has dropped a bit in performance, and this has caused these types of results. To be honest, I like this team, although I am more of a Leverkusen fan who are doing very well. Xabi really knows how to make things better for everyone. Bayern undoubtedly have a lot to offer and in this case they can improve. Dortmund have always stood out. All teams always go through a bad moment and this could be the biggest test of all to move forward.

Borussia Dortmund hold talks with Ralf Rangnick over interim head coach role

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Sky Germany reports that during their ‘secret’ trip to Austria, Borussia Dortmund held talks with Ralf Rangnick over becoming their interim head coach.

Dortmund are said to have travelled to Austria and held talks with Niko Kovac while it was reported by Sportschau that there was a second candidate called ‘Mr X’. It can be assumed that Rangnick is ‘Mr X’.

However, Rangnick’s contract still runs as Austria’s head coach until the end of this year. On top of this, he also has previously coached a club on an interim basis, having taken charge of Manchester United in the second half of the 2022 season, which was a disaster due to the situation at the club at the time.

Source:https://www.getfootballnewsgermany.com/2025/borussia-dortmund-hold-talks-with-ralf-rangnick-over-interim-head-coach-role/ (https://www.getfootballnewsgermany.com/2025/borussia-dortmund-hold-talks-with-ralf-rangnick-over-interim-head-coach-role/)
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on January 29, 2025, 11:49:04 PM
The final round of the Champions League league stage has concluded.
We have only one German team in the top 8 (straight to the top 16 without play-offs) and it's Bayer Leverkusen, who today defeated Sparta Prague 2-0.
Both Bayern and Dortmund have also won tonight (against Slovan Bratislava and Shakhtar Donetsk respectively) and they both finished in the seeded play-offs places.

Stuttgart and Leipzig got eliminated. Leipzig didn't even have a chance before this round, but Stuttgart finished just 1 point away from the play-offs zone, but they couldn't do much against desperate and motivated PSG despite playing at home and ended up losing 3-1.

Still, having 5 German teams in the Champions League was a success on its own.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on January 30, 2025, 02:30:16 PM
I think they prioritize both to be champions. The opportunity is there and they have to make the most of it. In the Champions League they have already ensured that they can qualify for the play-offs at least, so in the last match they can rotate to maintain the physical condition of their players to prepare for the play-offs. Or they have to win to be able to qualify directly.
Regarding with current points, Bayern Munich have been qualify trough playoff round in Champion League but still have opportunity break to the top eight standings position if can win last match and waiting the higher standings teams result. Actually Bayern Munich must prepare in Champion League for playing at playoff round because very difficult have wait several higher standings teams result.
But in domestic league Bayern have 6 points left awhile from Leverkusen after being draw in this week from Leipzig, its good trend for Bayern have many points left and secure the bundesliga trophy as soon possible.
They must prepare a strategy, including their strategy in maintaining their position in the Bundesliga if at any time they experience a difficult situation such as a storm of injuries for example.

They are in a very advantageous position, but that does not mean it is easy, because usually maintaining will be more difficult than winning. However, they have very good experience, so they should be used to all the pressure.
In general, it must be said that at the highest level it is far from easy to maintain a position, not mentioning the fact that at any time various challenges can turn up. Situations like injuries of key players, time constraints and similar other factors can be challenging for a team. However, the experience that has been gained is one of the essential components that help to address every pressure that may occur. That is why when a team is accustomed to hard sets of circumstances, they will be in a better place to address those hurdles and even maintain direction. It is thus not only about how they keep up with the accomplishments, but also how may a society progress and establish better grounds with regard to the numerous existing situations. Consistency and preparedness to confront all sorts of situations will be the primary strategies that will enable organisations record better performances in the future.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on January 30, 2025, 02:57:41 PM
The final round of the Champions League league stage has concluded.
We have only one German team in the top 8 (straight to the top 16 without play-offs) and it's Bayer Leverkusen, who today defeated Sparta Prague 2-0.
Both Bayern and Dortmund have also won tonight (against Slovan Bratislava and Shakhtar Donetsk respectively) and they both finished in the seeded play-offs places.

Stuttgart and Leipzig got eliminated. Leipzig didn't even have a chance before this round, but Stuttgart finished just 1 point away from the play-offs zone, but they couldn't do much against desperate and motivated PSG despite playing at home and ended up losing 3-1.

Still, having 5 German teams in the Champions League was a success on its own.

Only one Bundesliga club made it into the top 8 which is still good, and I am happy its club is Leverkusen. :)
However, I am still confident that Bayern will qualify for the next round, they will qualify from the playoffs. Dortmund? I have a bad feeling about them, this season is not theirs.
And yeah, five Bundesliga clubs qualifying for the Champions League is a success for German football.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on January 31, 2025, 05:50:11 PM

Only one Bundesliga club made it into the top 8 which is still good, and I am happy its club is Leverkusen. :)
However, I am still confident that Bayern will qualify for the next round, they will qualify from the playoffs. Dortmund? I have a bad feeling about them, this season is not theirs.
And yeah, five Bundesliga clubs qualifying for the Champions League is a success for German football.
Leverkusen managed to secure themselves in the round of 16, Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund had to be in the play-off round, while the other 2 teams Stuttgart and Leipzig were eliminated in the league round.

Since last season, since Leverkusen managed to become champions, I was curious whether they could talk a lot in the Champions League or not, but for now they have proven themselves by being in the round of 16, this is a good start and they can go further.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on February 01, 2025, 11:30:11 AM
Any thoughts on betting on Dortmund in today's game against Heidenheim?
The odds are decent, x1.77 (x4.50 for Heidenheim). It's a fact that Dortmund is in four league games without a win streak, and, considering all competitions, they've only won twice in the last 10 games, but, as they say, the team is as good as their last performance and Dortmund did beat Shakhtar Donetsk in their last game (final round of the league stage of the Champions League).
Heidenheim is in the bottom 3 with over 68% loss ratio. A potential draw could be of concern, but Heidenheim only drew twice in the league this season. It's a type of team that either wins or loses.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on February 01, 2025, 10:43:53 PM
Any thoughts on betting on Dortmund in today's game against Heidenheim?
The odds are decent, x1.77 (x4.50 for Heidenheim). It's a fact that Dortmund is in four league games without a win streak, and, considering all competitions, they've only won twice in the last 10 games, but, as they say, the team is as good as their last performance and Dortmund did beat Shakhtar Donetsk in their last game (final round of the league stage of the Champions League).
Heidenheim is in the bottom 3 with over 68% loss ratio. A potential draw could be of concern, but Heidenheim only drew twice in the league this season. It's a type of team that either wins or loses.
Dortmund went on to win their game, a good result for the new coach, who just joined the team, and a motivation for the players in the team to try to make sure that they can make qualifications for any of the European competitions. Dortmund were in a better position last season and were doing much better than they are currently. The new coach sparks up new hope for the club; the supporters will be expecting more wins from this.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on February 02, 2025, 05:18:31 AM
Any thoughts on betting on Dortmund in today's game against Heidenheim?
The odds are decent, x1.77 (x4.50 for Heidenheim). It's a fact that Dortmund is in four league games without a win streak, and, considering all competitions, they've only won twice in the last 10 games, but, as they say, the team is as good as their last performance and Dortmund did beat Shakhtar Donetsk in their last game (final round of the league stage of the Champions League).
Heidenheim is in the bottom 3 with over 68% loss ratio. A potential draw could be of concern, but Heidenheim only drew twice in the league this season. It's a type of team that either wins or loses.
Dortmund went on to win their game, a good result for the new coach, who just joined the team, and a motivation for the players in the team to try to make sure that they can make qualifications for any of the European competitions. Dortmund were in a better position last season and were doing much better than they are currently. The new coach sparks up new hope for the club; the supporters will be expecting more wins from this.
The winning streak is rather refreshing for the team as well as the fans on the team. The presence of a new coach usually bring about morale which can enhance performance of the players in each match. Nevertheless, the outcome achieved in the previous season was relatively more consistent, but the verify one received this time is also worthy of appreciation meant that every fluctuation requires a period to offer the best. The desire to continue winning is likely to rise, and if all is done as it should be, there is every possibility of qualifying for the European competition. The road is still lengthy and the most significant factor is to have continuing and enhance the team performance in each and every game played throughout the tournament.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on February 02, 2025, 12:49:55 PM
The winning streak is rather refreshing for the team as well as the fans on the team. The presence of a new coach usually bring about morale which can enhance performance of the players in each match. Nevertheless, the outcome achieved in the previous season was relatively more consistent, but the verify one received this time is also worthy of appreciation meant that every fluctuation requires a period to offer the best. The desire to continue winning is likely to rise, and if all is done as it should be, there is every possibility of qualifying for the European competition. The road is still lengthy and the most significant factor is to have continuing and enhance the team performance in each and every game played throughout the tournament.
I hope this continues so they can get back to the position they should or used to occupy, it's hard for sure, but at least they have to get back to the top to heat up the competition there.

So far the decisions taken by management are quite good, but they should not be satisfied with what they have achieved now, they must continue to improve to find their best form again.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on February 02, 2025, 08:27:23 PM
Nice comfortable win for Leverkusen as they recorded a 3:1 over Hoffenheim at home with victor boniface opening the score sheet it's a nice win for them as they continues to pile up pressure on bayern munich which is on top of the table Leverkusen need to maintain this kind of form and performance going forward because they can't afford to drop any further points at this critical point of the league because teams have started taking shape's and the battle for top four intensifies I think Leverkusen is in the right form to give bayern munich a run for their money because currently speaking Bayern Munich is not currently doing well defensively speaking because they have been convincing plenty of goals lately so Leverkusen is at advantage because bayern munich is playing under pressure
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 03, 2025, 03:41:33 PM
Nice comfortable win for Leverkusen as they recorded a 3:1 over Hoffenheim at home with victor boniface opening the score sheet it's a nice win for them as they continues to pile up pressure on bayern munich which is on top of the table Leverkusen need to maintain this kind of form and performance going forward because they can't afford to drop any further points at this critical point of the league because teams have started taking shape's and the battle for top four intensifies I think Leverkusen is in the right form to give bayern munich a run for their money because currently speaking Bayern Munich is not currently doing well defensively speaking because they have been convincing plenty of goals lately so Leverkusen is at advantage because bayern munich is playing under pressure

Another big three points at home! Leverkusen is heading into the derby week on a win, They keep going. 8)
Victor Boniface's transfer failed to go to Al Nasr, he is back and scored straight away but what caught my eye was Emiliano BuendiaBuendía played marvelously, he clearly showed it on the pitch, what a performance in the first game.
I liked it immediately and Mario Hermoso was solid at the back too.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Didia Sofunichi on February 04, 2025, 02:37:52 PM
Seeing the league table I feel happy for Harry Kane, I sincerely want him to win the Bundesliga, he is a fantastic player and deserves as many medals and titles as possible. I also wish he wins the golden boots too
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 05, 2025, 06:45:40 PM
Seeing the league table I feel happy for Harry Kane, I sincerely want him to win the Bundesliga, he is a fantastic player and deserves as many medals and titles as possible. I also wish he wins the golden boots too

I hope so, Let's pray for him. He deserved something and relax, Bayern is still on top of the Bundesliga table. :)
Harry Kane has still not won a trophy for Tottenham, Bayern Munich, and England, but calling someone a curse is what is entirely wrong with the world of football... People create narratives based purely on traction and do not realize the harm they are doing.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on February 06, 2025, 02:37:36 PM
Seeing the league table I feel happy for Harry Kane, I sincerely want him to win the Bundesliga, he is a fantastic player and deserves as many medals and titles as possible. I also wish he wins the golden boots too

I hope so, Let's pray for him. He deserved something and relax, Bayern is still on top of the Bundesliga table. :)
Harry Kane has still not won a trophy for Tottenham, Bayern Munich, and England, but calling someone a curse is what is entirely wrong with the world of football... People create narratives based purely on traction and do not realize the harm they are doing.
He is a player who has met the criteria to win a title, but luck has not been on his side. I also hope to see him lift a trophy in his career and hopefully it can happen this season.

they are on the right track to win a title, now their job is just to maintain the performance they have created until the end of the season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 06, 2025, 07:37:13 PM
(https://i.ibb.co.com/NdyQ4J5W/Leverkusen.png)

Victor Boniface scored the winning goal for Bayer Leverkusen in extra time, turning the game around from 2-0 down against FC Koln to win 3-2 and secure their spot in the DFB Pokal semi-finals.
What a thrilling comeback. Bayer Leverkusen proves once again that they never give up. Leverkusen is the king of comebacks this season.
They are on to the semi-finals with momentum on their side. The title defense is still on!
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: debra on February 06, 2025, 11:59:24 PM
Seeing the league table I feel happy for Harry Kane, I sincerely want him to win the Bundesliga, he is a fantastic player and deserves as many medals and titles as possible. I also wish he wins the golden boots too
I'm sure Harry Kane will win the Bundesliga trophy this season. Bayern Munich performance looks quite stable in the domestic competition. Although they failed in DFB Pokal, they still have the chance to win UCL trophy. And it can be the advantage for Bayern Munich because they can focus on Bundesliga in domestic competition now.

Harry Kane has still not won a trophy for Tottenham, Bayern Munich, and England, but calling someone a curse is what is entirely wrong with the world of football... People create narratives based purely on traction and do not realize the harm they are doing.
He must win trophies with Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich has become a strong team again after Kompany becomes the coach. In this seaosn, Harry Kane looks like to win his first trophy with Kompany. So people can't say something badly again to Harry Kane.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 07, 2025, 08:35:40 PM
Harry Kane has still not won a trophy for Tottenham, Bayern Munich, and England, but calling someone a curse is what is entirely wrong with the world of football... People create narratives based purely on traction and do not realize the harm they are doing.
He must win trophies with Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich has become a strong team again after Kompany becomes the coach. In this seaosn, Harry Kane looks like to win his first trophy with Kompany. So people can't say something badly again to Harry Kane.

Harry Kane came to Bayern Munich last season to win trophies but Tuchel ruined the game. :(
Kingsley Coman has won league titles with all the teams he's played for and I expect his record to stand this season, while Kane's record will be broken, the record of never winning a title. :)
It will be good for both Kane and Coman to win a trophy this season and Kane deserves it.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on February 08, 2025, 02:20:53 PM
I guess I'm a bit behind with the latest I've only just learned that Niko Kovac has been appointed as Borussia Dortmund new coach.
As reported here (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgq0lp8l078o) he signed 18-month contract on 29th Jan and will be leading his new club for the first time today, the game starts in a little over one hour.

Is Kovac a good replacement? I don't know, he lead Bayern to the title once but, apart from the time he was a manager of Eintracht, he never managed to keep his job for longer than 2 years. But I guess it won't be hard to do a better job than Sahin.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 08, 2025, 04:50:15 PM
I guess I'm a bit behind with the latest I've only just learned that Niko Kovac has been appointed as Borussia Dortmund new coach.
As reported here (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgq0lp8l078o) he signed 18-month contract on 29th Jan and will be leading his new club for the first time today, the game starts in a little over one hour.

Is Kovac a good replacement? I don't know, he lead Bayern to the title once but, apart from the time he was a manager of Eintracht, he never managed to keep his job for longer than 2 years. But I guess it won't be hard to do a better job than Sahin.

It's not surprising to me. Kovac is one of the top favorites as Sahin's replacement.
Kovac knows the Bundesliga very well because most of his playing career was spent here and Dortmund is the 4th Bundesliga club he has ever coached.
Kovać has the experience but is not special, I doubt he can bring the consistency they've been missing.
This is hard to imagine anymore, Dortmund is currently stuck in a mediocre state. IMO
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on February 08, 2025, 08:08:56 PM
Harry Kane came to Bayern Munich last season to win trophies but Tuchel ruined the game. :(
Kingsley Coman has won league titles with all the teams he's played for and I expect his record to stand this season, while Kane's record will be broken, the record of never winning a title. :)
It will be good for both Kane and Coman to win a trophy this season and Kane deserves it.
Although Bayern Munich have dominance in Bundesliga not sure yet with bad record of Harry Kane will stop in this season by winning domestic league tittle. Firstly, Bayern have been eliminated from DFP pokal cup and Kane loss his first trophy this season for Bayern, but have two trophies left possibility win by Bayern Munich in Champion League and domestic league.
Interested waiting for will this year Harry Kane success break record for the first time win the trophy in his career or still get failure.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on February 08, 2025, 08:59:25 PM
I guess I'm a bit behind with the latest I've only just learned that Niko Kovac has been appointed as Borussia Dortmund new coach.
As reported here (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgq0lp8l078o) he signed 18-month contract on 29th Jan and will be leading his new club for the first time today, the game starts in a little over one hour.

Is Kovac a good replacement? I don't know, he lead Bayern to the title once but, apart from the time he was a manager of Eintracht, he never managed to keep his job for longer than 2 years. But I guess it won't be hard to do a better job than Sahin.

It's not surprising to me. Kovac is one of the top favorites as Sahin's replacement.
Kovac knows the Bundesliga very well because most of his playing career was spent here and Dortmund is the 4th Bundesliga club he has ever coached.
Kovać has the experience but is not special, I doubt he can bring the consistency they've been missing.
This is hard to imagine anymore, Dortmund is currently stuck in a mediocre state. IMO
Well, it comes as no surprise that Kovac is a strong candidate for the job, considering his familiarity with Bundesliga. These qualities combined with his experience with the league and its environment, there is a possibility of him establishing order at Dortmund. But, the problem of inconsistency had always been perennial with Dortmund in the recent past. Forcing this challenge also becomes even tougher because one is inconveniced in a status that is usually stagnant. Kovac may be capable to lead the reorientation of the team, but to sustain the performance on the highest level is a challenging task which is more than a simple experience. Possible only in this way, the Dortmund will be able to recover and take the due place in every competition with a strong character.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on February 09, 2025, 03:54:36 PM
Harry Kane came to Bayern Munich last season to win trophies but Tuchel ruined the game. :(
Kingsley Coman has won league titles with all the teams he's played for and I expect his record to stand this season, while Kane's record will be broken, the record of never winning a title. :)
It will be good for both Kane and Coman to win a trophy this season and Kane deserves it.
either Tuchel ruined the game or Bayern Munich's management itself ruined it. Because Tuchel's entry into Bayern Munich was also due to a very surprising decision at that time where they preferred to fire Naggelsmann. Even though at that time their game was still fine.

I don't want to blame anyone here, and indeed no one can be completely blamed 100%. Regardless of all that, I think maybe this season is Kane's time.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on February 09, 2025, 06:05:29 PM
Bayern did it again. Another 3 points earned on Werder after 3-0 win in a very one-sided show. Werder almost didn't exist in that game with only 25% possession, 2 shots on goal and zero on target.
Both Leverkusen and Eintracht drew their games, so Bayern widened the gap and it doesn't look like they have to worry about any competition for the league title this season.

Dortmund's troubles continue, but, to be fair, it's one of those games when the score is not a fair reflection of teams' performance. Dortmund did dominate and probably were more deserving of winning but it just wasn't their day.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 10, 2025, 04:28:47 PM

Dortmund's troubles continue, but, to be fair, it's one of those games when the score is not a fair reflection of teams' performance. Dortmund did dominate and probably were more deserving of winning but it just wasn't their day.

Sorry, that wasn't good enough. Defeat at home wasn't a good debut for Kovac, but losing at home is the new normal, congratulations to all those involved.
New coach, same problems, same shortcomings in the team. It's not Kovac's fault, not the fault of a coach. It's the fault of the people at the top who have run this club to the ground in the last decade.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 10, 2025, 11:23:35 PM
Sorry, that wasn't good enough. Defeat at home wasn't a good debut for Kovac, but losing at home is the new normal, congratulations to all those involved.
New coach, same problems, same shortcomings in the team. It's not Kovac's fault, not the fault of a coach. It's the fault of the people at the top who have run this club to the ground in the last decade.

Dortmund is a team that has basically done things right, but there is a certain uncertainty when it comes to winning, of playing better games. It is useless if they play very well, but if in the end they draw or lose, that is a total failure, because they are failing in the definition Sometimes it does not matter if they play badly, but if they score the goal and win , then that is what really matters. Sometimes football can sound and look unfair at times, but it is like that Well, that is putting aside the management of the referees and the VAR, which now seems very, very bad to me in all the Games.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on February 10, 2025, 11:30:36 PM

Dortmund's troubles continue, but, to be fair, it's one of those games when the score is not a fair reflection of teams' performance. Dortmund did dominate and probably were more deserving of winning but it just wasn't their day.

Sorry, that wasn't good enough. Defeat at home wasn't a good debut for Kovac, but losing at home is the new normal, congratulations to all those involved.
New coach, same problems, same shortcomings in the team. It's not Kovac's fault, not the fault of a coach. It's the fault of the people at the top who have run this club to the ground in the last decade.
You don't expect this new coach to change things around just like that it will take time maybe from next season they will get back to winning ways but for this season I don't see Dortmund to be getting results because they need a total overhauling of the entire Dortmund team and the new coach has started that process so he should be given time to prove himself because even if you bring the best coach to this team currently Dortmund still will under perform because the entire Dortmund team has a problem due to lack of quality players One thing that affected Dortmund negatively is the issue of seeing players without replacement plan
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on February 10, 2025, 11:56:56 PM

Dortmund's troubles continue, but, to be fair, it's one of those games when the score is not a fair reflection of teams' performance. Dortmund did dominate and probably were more deserving of winning but it just wasn't their day.

Sorry, that wasn't good enough. Defeat at home wasn't a good debut for Kovac, but losing at home is the new normal, congratulations to all those involved.
New coach, same problems, same shortcomings in the team. It's not Kovac's fault, not the fault of a coach. It's the fault of the people at the top who have run this club to the ground in the last decade.
You don't expect this new coach to change things around just like that it will take time maybe from next season they will get back to winning ways but for this season I don't see Dortmund to be getting results because they need a total overhauling of the entire Dortmund team and the new coach has started that process so he should be given time to prove himself because even if you bring the best coach to this team currently Dortmund still will under perform because the entire Dortmund team has a problem due to lack of quality players One thing that affected Dortmund negatively is the issue of seeing players without replacement plan
It is quite true that any change that transpires within a team must take time in order for all the plans to work as wanted. He is still the traveller with enthusiasm and passion that wants to implement his ideas, but the wins cannot be expected quickly. As it was mentioned before, in order for a team that is going through a transition period to gain a successful situation they need to restore the balance all over the lines so that they can challenge for the top positions again. The major concept that is responsible for this process to work properly is patience especially in circumstances where there are so many areas in need of correction. As for Dortmund it is a club that has always bounced back from the worst of periods and this trend can repeat if the actions are carried on a right path.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 11, 2025, 09:41:45 PM

Dortmund's troubles continue, but, to be fair, it's one of those games when the score is not a fair reflection of teams' performance. Dortmund did dominate and probably were more deserving of winning but it just wasn't their day.

Sorry, that wasn't good enough. Defeat at home wasn't a good debut for Kovac, but losing at home is the new normal, congratulations to all those involved.
New coach, same problems, same shortcomings in the team. It's not Kovac's fault, not the fault of a coach. It's the fault of the people at the top who have run this club to the ground in the last decade.
You don't expect this new coach to change things around just like that it will take time maybe from next season they will get back to winning ways but for this season I don't see Dortmund to be getting results because they need a total overhauling of the entire Dortmund team and the new coach has started that process so he should be given time to prove himself because even if you bring the best coach to this team currently Dortmund still will under perform because the entire Dortmund team has a problem due to lack of quality players One thing that affected Dortmund negatively is the issue of seeing players without replacement plan

In the first match under Niko Kovac, a lackluster Dortmund suffered a work-related defeat.
However, the problem goes deeper. The club has leadership problems and that's what happens here. Poor leadership has had a huge impact.
The board can pretend they only want superstars(which they won’t sign anyway), but they also need to provide depth and they haven't done that. It's incompetence at its best
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on February 11, 2025, 11:47:38 PM
A quick note to those who think Leverkusen still have a realistic chance of defending their title.
Even if Leverkusen were to win ALL of their remaining games (which won't happen) it would still not be enough if Bayern remains consistent in their performance. We are more than halfway through the season (62%), there are only 13 rounds left. So far, Bayern has lost only 9 points - at the same level of performance, they would lose less than 6 points by the end of the season, so less than the 8-point gap.

So not only Leverkusen would have to excel to the highest level, they would also have to hope for Bayer to decline.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on February 12, 2025, 05:27:06 PM
Bayern Munich will play in the play-off round against Celtic today. Yes, they will play one of these very important matches, because it will determine their journey in the Champions League.

I hope they have prepared everything, because they cannot play comfortably in an important match like this. One mistake they make will make them lose later.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Nheer on February 12, 2025, 06:42:33 PM
Bayern Munich will play in the play-off round against Celtic today. Yes, they will play one of these very important matches, because it will determine their journey in the Champions League.

I hope they have prepared everything, because they cannot play comfortably in an important match like this. One mistake they make will make them lose later.
A really important and wanted match for them, I guess they really prepare themselves to win this match, they will really need to put a lot of effort and energy to this game if they really want to get to the champions league journey cause it won’t be a easy match at all.
They will really put bigger effort to this game if not it won’t be an easy task at all. And Celtics on the other hand are really strong and very talented to make use of any slight mistakes and turn it to opportunities.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: UNIVERSE on February 12, 2025, 11:58:23 PM
Bayern Munich will play in the play-off round against Celtic today. Yes, they will play one of these very important matches, because it will determine their journey in the Champions League.
I hope they have prepared everything, because they cannot play comfortably in an important match like this. One mistake they make will make them lose later.
They have played against Celtic. They won the match with 2 goals. It was interesting that Celtic could play quite well. They scored 1 goal, so the aggregate is only 2-1. With this narrow aggregate, Bayern Munich can't underestimate them in Leg 2. It is because Celtic still has a chance to qualify for the next round if they could beat Bayern Munich in the next Leg. Bayern Munich must play with a serious tactic for the next Leg.


Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on February 13, 2025, 04:27:16 PM
Bayern Munich will play in the play-off round against Celtic today. Yes, they will play one of these very important matches, because it will determine their journey in the Champions League.

I hope they have prepared everything, because they cannot play comfortably in an important match like this. One mistake they make will make them lose later.
A really important and wanted match for them, I guess they really prepare themselves to win this match, they will really need to put a lot of effort and energy to this game if they really want to get to the champions league journey cause it won’t be a easy match at all.
They will really put bigger effort to this game if not it won’t be an easy task at all. And Celtics on the other hand are really strong and very talented to make use of any slight mistakes and turn it to opportunities.
Bayern Munich can take home victory in this match after beating Celtic with a narrow score of 2-1. This is very valuable capital for them to undergo the second leg later at their own headquarters.

However, they should not be lulled by this victory. Because looking at Celtic's game, it can also give something to their game that if Bayern Munich is careless then they could lose.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Nheer on February 13, 2025, 06:24:43 PM
Bayern Munich will play in the play-off round against Celtic today. Yes, they will play one of these very important matches, because it will determine their journey in the Champions League.

I hope they have prepared everything, because they cannot play comfortably in an important match like this. One mistake they make will make them lose later.
A really important and wanted match for them, I guess they really prepare themselves to win this match, they will really need to put a lot of effort and energy to this game if they really want to get to the champions league journey cause it won’t be a easy match at all.
They will really put bigger effort to this game if not it won’t be an easy task at all. And Celtics on the other hand are really strong and very talented to make use of any slight mistakes and turn it to opportunities.
Bayern Munich can take home victory in this match after beating Celtic with a narrow score of 2-1. This is very valuable capital for them to undergo the second leg later at their own headquarters.

However, they should not be lulled by this victory. Because looking at Celtic's game, it can also give something to their game that if Bayern Munich is careless then they could lose.
Bayern munich really pushes their way to take the victory home, a superb performance from both teams but unfortunately the result speaks. Celtics do play well their performances wasn’t bad at all and moreover this was their first defeat at home.
  The possession and stats ain’t bad at all. Harry Kane is moving  with goals and making a big impact to the team with a superb and consistent goals for the team. He is really proving to be a reliable player for Bayern Munich.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 13, 2025, 06:59:18 PM
Bayern Munich will play in the play-off round against Celtic today. Yes, they will play one of these very important matches, because it will determine their journey in the Champions League.
I hope they have prepared everything, because they cannot play comfortably in an important match like this. One mistake they make will make them lose later.
They have played against Celtic. They won the match with 2 goals. It was interesting that Celtic could play quite well. They scored 1 goal, so the aggregate is only 2-1. With this narrow aggregate, Bayern Munich can't underestimate them in Leg 2. It is because Celtic still has a chance to qualify for the next round if they could beat Bayern Munich in the next Leg. Bayern Munich must play with a serious tactic for the next Leg.

Glasgow's first home defeat of the season, and one of the biggest criticisms of the season has been ‘capitalizing on chances’. Now they've made another mistake in capitalizing on chances.
On the other hand, a big win for Bayern, but Bayern's dominance is not what it used to be. At other times, they would dominate Celtic away from home from start to finish and not go into the second leg with a one-goal deficit.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on February 13, 2025, 11:42:48 PM
Leverkusen Vs Bayern is obviously the biggest game this weekend. Leverkusen absolutely have to win it if they are serious about defending their championship. But even then they would be 5 points behind which is still a big gap considering Bayern rarely lose points this season.
Odds are as follows:
Lverkusen: x2.90
Draw: x4.00
Bayern: x2.20

What's interesting is the head-to-head stats. In the last 5 games (all competitions) between those two teams, Bayern has zero wins, Leverkusen won three times and there were two draws.
I think we might see a split of points on Saturday.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on February 14, 2025, 04:31:30 AM
Bayern Munich will play in the play-off round against Celtic today. Yes, they will play one of these very important matches, because it will determine their journey in the Champions League.
I hope they have prepared everything, because they cannot play comfortably in an important match like this. One mistake they make will make them lose later.
They have played against Celtic. They won the match with 2 goals. It was interesting that Celtic could play quite well. They scored 1 goal, so the aggregate is only 2-1. With this narrow aggregate, Bayern Munich can't underestimate them in Leg 2. It is because Celtic still has a chance to qualify for the next round if they could beat Bayern Munich in the next Leg. Bayern Munich must play with a serious tactic for the next Leg.

Glasgow's first home defeat of the season, and one of the biggest criticisms of the season has been ‘capitalizing on chances’. Now they've made another mistake in capitalizing on chances.
On the other hand, a big win for Bayern, but Bayern's dominance is not what it used to be. At other times, they would dominate Celtic away from home from start to finish and not go into the second leg with a one-goal deficit.
It is on these types of matches and especially in the matches that have been labelled to be delicate that Glasgow will realise the importance of endeavour to make the chances count. Sodium lauryl sulphate is an oftre used surfactant in foods, pass formulas across soon, and personal care products. However, Bayern still wins in this case while their performance may not be as strong as it was before the previous generation. The overwhelming performance that the strikers used to have is fading away when they encounter other teams that have good defending systems and aggressive attacks. The second leg would determine the strength and character of both teams whether which Glasgow is able to come back a team who was defeated in the first leg or whether Bayern will prove strong by making a more dominant victory in the second leg.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on February 14, 2025, 02:29:40 PM
Bayern Munich can take home victory in this match after beating Celtic with a narrow score of 2-1. This is very valuable capital for them to undergo the second leg later at their own headquarters.

However, they should not be lulled by this victory. Because looking at Celtic's game, it can also give something to their game that if Bayern Munich is careless then they could lose.
Bayern munich really pushes their way to take the victory home, a superb performance from both teams but unfortunately the result speaks. Celtics do play well their performances wasn’t bad at all and moreover this was their first defeat at home.
  The possession and stats ain’t bad at all. Harry Kane is moving  with goals and making a big impact to the team with a superb and consistent goals for the team. He is really proving to be a reliable player for Bayern Munich.
Bayern Munich must be able to ensure that they can play well in the second leg. They only need a draw at the moment, but considering the distance that exists, it is still quite risky.

Playing defensively is not a good option, so they must be able to play as usual even though they only need a draw in this match. I hope they can finish it very well.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on February 14, 2025, 07:26:21 PM
Bayern Munich can take home victory in this match after beating Celtic with a narrow score of 2-1. This is very valuable capital for them to undergo the second leg later at their own headquarters.

However, they should not be lulled by this victory. Because looking at Celtic's game, it can also give something to their game that if Bayern Munich is careless then they could lose.
Bayern munich really pushes their way to take the victory home, a superb performance from both teams but unfortunately the result speaks. Celtics do play well their performances wasn’t bad at all and moreover this was their first defeat at home.
  The possession and stats ain’t bad at all. Harry Kane is moving  with goals and making a big impact to the team with a superb and consistent goals for the team. He is really proving to be a reliable player for Bayern Munich.
Bayern Munich must be able to ensure that they can play well in the second leg. They only need a draw at the moment, but considering the distance that exists, it is still quite risky.

Playing defensively is not a good option, so they must be able to play as usual even though they only need a draw in this match. I hope they can finish it very well.
The possibility of Bayern advancing to the round of 16 is higher the Celtic because Bayern is stronger and well experienced than them. Also Bayern is already one point ahead of Celtic. A draw will givd Bayern the qualification but Bayern should win them home and away to show that they're superior over Celtic.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 14, 2025, 08:37:27 PM
Bayern Munich can take home victory in this match after beating Celtic with a narrow score of 2-1. This is very valuable capital for them to undergo the second leg later at their own headquarters.

However, they should not be lulled by this victory. Because looking at Celtic's game, it can also give something to their game that if Bayern Munich is careless then they could lose.
Bayern munich really pushes their way to take the victory home, a superb performance from both teams but unfortunately the result speaks. Celtics do play well their performances wasn’t bad at all and moreover this was their first defeat at home.
  The possession and stats ain’t bad at all. Harry Kane is moving  with goals and making a big impact to the team with a superb and consistent goals for the team. He is really proving to be a reliable player for Bayern Munich.
Bayern Munich must be able to ensure that they can play well in the second leg. They only need a draw at the moment, but considering the distance that exists, it is still quite risky.

Playing defensively is not a good option, so they must be able to play as usual even though they only need a draw in this match. I hope they can finish it very well.

I agree with you, Bayern was in control after making it 2-0 but then they let Celtic score and Celtic could have easily made it 2-2 if they were lucky, Celtic cooked Bayern in the last 20 minutes.
When playing in the second leg at home Bayern can't make the same mistakes again.
Bayern must finish the match as soon as possible with a convincing score.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on February 14, 2025, 10:04:29 PM
This has been the problem of bayern munich they have not been convincing in their performance lately even at home but they have just been lucky because results has been going their way because looking at the champions League game against Celtic especially towards the closing minutes of the game bayern was really surprising struggling with the way that they were playing this bayern team is not too good as the results that they are getting because struggling against a Celtic side is what I was concerned about because with no disrespect to Celtic they are not in the class of bayern I don't personally see Bayern Munich moving beyond past the next round of the champions League
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Gurujebs on February 14, 2025, 10:32:13 PM
The possibility of Bayern advancing to the round of 16 is higher the Celtic because Bayern is stronger and well experienced than them. Also Bayern is already one point ahead of Celtic. A draw will givd Bayern the qualification but Bayern should win them home and away to show that they're superior over Celtic.

Bayern Munich has won the first leg of the game, they should be able to win the second leg at home too. Bayern Munich is in better shape and have the Champions League experienced than Celtic. They won the away game with the score of 1-2, and I believe that Bayern Munich can score more than 2 goals hosting the second leg to advance to the next round.

I agree with you, Bayern was in control after making it 2-0 but then they let Celtic score and Celtic could have easily made it 2-2 if they were lucky, Celtic cooked Bayern in the last 20 minutes.
When playing in the second leg at home Bayern can't make the same mistakes again.
Bayern must finish the match as soon as possible with a convincing score.

Bayern Munich will surely perform at their best in the second leg in front of their supporters, they won the first leg even though Celtic pressed them in the last minute during the game. Celtic first goal was disallowed 2 minutes into the game, otherwise, the game would have end up draw for Bayern Munich.
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Post by: koang on February 15, 2025, 12:50:14 PM
I agree with you, Bayern was in control after making it 2-0 but then they let Celtic score and Celtic could have easily made it 2-2 if they were lucky, Celtic cooked Bayern in the last 20 minutes.
When playing in the second leg at home Bayern can't make the same mistakes again.
Bayern must finish the match as soon as possible with a convincing score.

Bayern Munich will surely perform at their best in the second leg in front of their supporters, they won the first leg even though Celtic pressed them in the last minute during the game. Celtic first goal was disallowed 2 minutes into the game, otherwise, the game would have end up draw for Bayern Munich.

I hope so too, but we know that Celtic showed their class in the first leg, so Kompany will have to apply the right tactics to contain the Celtic players. Celtic can hurt Bayern with their compact style and quick counter-attacks, they have fast players who can exploit the space behind Bayern's defense line. Adam Idah, Daizen Maeda, who was unfortunately suspended in the first leg, Jota or Nicolas Kühn.
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Post by: ajiz138 on February 15, 2025, 01:23:19 PM
Bayern Munich must be able to ensure that they can play well in the second leg. They only need a draw at the moment, but considering the distance that exists, it is still quite risky.

Playing defensively is not a good option, so they must be able to play as usual even though they only need a draw in this match. I hope they can finish it very well.
The possibility of Bayern advancing to the round of 16 is higher the Celtic because Bayern is stronger and well experienced than them. Also Bayern is already one point ahead of Celtic. A draw will givd Bayern the qualification but Bayern should win them home and away to show that they're superior over Celtic.
It can be said that there is no reason why they can't be in the last 16, especially since they will be playing at home and starting the match with a 1 goal advantage.

This is their last chance to be in the last 16, I can't imagine them being eliminated after leading like this. It will definitely be a long conversation for their fans.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on February 15, 2025, 05:21:29 PM
I agree with you, Bayern was in control after making it 2-0 but then they let Celtic score and Celtic could have easily made it 2-2 if they were lucky, Celtic cooked Bayern in the last 20 minutes.
When playing in the second leg at home Bayern can't make the same mistakes again.
Bayern must finish the match as soon as possible with a convincing score.

Bayern Munich will surely perform at their best in the second leg in front of their supporters, they won the first leg even though Celtic pressed them in the last minute during the game. Celtic first goal was disallowed 2 minutes into the game, otherwise, the game would have end up draw for Bayern Munich.

I hope so too, but we know that Celtic showed their class in the first leg, so Kompany will have to apply the right tactics to contain the Celtic players. Celtic can hurt Bayern with their compact style and quick counter-attacks, they have fast players who can exploit the space behind Bayern's defense line. Adam Idah, Daizen Maeda, who was unfortunately suspended in the first leg, Jota or Nicolas Kühn.
Of course, it is possible to consider Celtic as the serious rival with talented players and character in every match. Their players are very fast, and this front line can be very dangerous for any team that they are going to face. Thus, it is expected that the team is able to read their movements well and have good structure within the team in every line. The cooperation with the players will determine the success and the right decisions during the match. When it comes to playing this match, therefore, the top option is always a mature serene attitude. We are confident that this team has the capability to handle such circumstances well and assured support will definitely challenge them to give their best.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on February 15, 2025, 08:22:02 PM
The top two teams in the bundesliga is likely going to share the spoils as the game between bayern Munich and bayern Leverkusen is currently 0:0 at the 86' minutes of the clock this results is favoring bayern munich the more as their point lead in the league will increase to ten points further cementing their first position place but it is not a good result for Leverkusen because plating at home I expected them to at least get a win even if it is 1:0 to close in on bayern munich
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Post by: Didia Sofunichi on February 15, 2025, 09:56:08 PM
What a shameful display it was today from Bayern Munich and Bayer Leverkusen. Ninety minutes and not a single goal. Worse was that there was not even a shot on target for Bayern Munich
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Didia Sofunichi on February 15, 2025, 09:58:10 PM
I'm sure the 2024/2025 Bundesliga season will be much more competitive. Not only Bayern Munich and Dortmund, but Leverkusen, Stuttgart, Leipzig, Frankfurt, they are preparing this season more competitively. Currently the transfer market has not yet ended and there is still an opportunity for clubs to change their squad layout with some of the top players they rely on and are looking forward to buying or loans. Well, at least their first match will take place in the 4th week of August and there is still a month to prepare.
The most competitive club would probably be Bayern Munich vs Leverkusen, or plus Dortmund too. This will be very interesting.

The 2 newcomer clubs that have just been promoted to the Bundesliga are St. Pauli and Holstein Kiel. Meanwhile, in the end Bochum was able to stay in the Bundesliga after beating Fortuna Düsseldorf in the play-offs. We'll see whether those clubs will survive this season and follow in Stuttgart's extraordinary footsteps last season, or whether it will end up in the relegation zone again.
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/bochum-fortuna-dusseldorf-relegation-play-off-free-highlights-live-blog-27447

Post your predictions. Do you think Leverkusen will be as dominant as in 2023/24 and will they defend the title?
This is still a bit difficult to predict, because this season, Bayern Munich's preparations will definitely be much tighter, especially because they might be confused by Leverkusen's movements last season which made them really embarrassed because their record as Bundesliga winners was taken over by Leverkusen and even They were only able to finish in 3rd place, below Stuttgart, who incidentally won the play-off from the relegation zone.

This will certainly provide very valuable learning for Bayern Munich. But on the other hand, they will also be together with the previous new coach, so I also can't imagine that it will really be overpowered again in the future. If I were to be honest, I would still remain enthusiastic and support Leverkusen, but this will not be as easy as last season, Xabi must make his squad work more solidly, effectively, significantly and stronger if he wants to retain the title. because competition will become much tougher.

I think we should just give the season to Bayern Munich. They are going to win it this time. Though an awful display today but from the beginning of the season they have shown enough strength, readiness and resilience
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on February 16, 2025, 12:19:11 PM
The top two teams in the bundesliga is likely going to share the spoils as the game between bayern Munich and bayern Leverkusen is currently 0:0 at the 86' minutes of the clock this results is favoring bayern munich the more as their point lead in the league will increase to ten points further cementing their first position place but it is not a good result for Leverkusen because plating at home I expected them to at least get a win even if it is 1:0 to close in on bayern munich
Yes they have to play a draw, that makes them not change any position in the standings. The match went a draw and even Bayern Munich could not do anything in this match, yes they could hardly create any chances.

So is Levekrusen, maybe they had some chances but it was also not so threatening and could not result in goals.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 16, 2025, 06:03:19 PM
The top two teams in the bundesliga is likely going to share the spoils as the game between bayern Munich and bayern Leverkusen is currently 0:0 at the 86' minutes of the clock this results is favoring bayern munich the more as their point lead in the league will increase to ten points further cementing their first position place but it is not a good result for Leverkusen because plating at home I expected them to at least get a win even if it is 1:0 to close in on bayern munich
Yes they have to play a draw, that makes them not change any position in the standings. The match went a draw and even Bayern Munich could not do anything in this match, yes they could hardly create any chances.

So is Levekrusen, maybe they had some chances but it was also not so threatening and could not result in goals.

Bayern played poorly, the fans are not happy but Kompany will be pleased with the result. It was important for Bayern not to lose, and they did just that.

I think the Xabi squad played well. The statistics show a dominant performance from Leverkusen, but they missed a quality finish. It was a shame Wirtz didn't score just before the end of the match.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on February 16, 2025, 09:59:47 PM
This current bayern munich team under kompany has been running on luck and luck will definitely fail them one day because week in week out they perform badly but seems to be getting results am particularly concerned about bayern munich future because bayern struggles to win even small teams that should not be a problem to them on the normal day but it's not the case I don't personally see kompany surviving more than next season as coach of bayern munich because his team is under performing maybe its because of the results that the club hierarchy is not concerned about what is happening in the club
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on February 16, 2025, 10:55:13 PM
I just watched the highlights of Leverkusen - Bayern Munich. There's no doubt Xabi Alonso's team deserved 3 points, but were just out of luck. They dominated the game in shots on goal and in terms of scoring chances created, they also had a small advantage in possession, but the results are not always fair and it's one of those cases.
Unless the highlights I watched are not a good reflection of the game, Bayern almost didn't exist. I guess you could give them some credit for effective defence and not losing a single goal, but they didn't pose any threat in the offence.
I wonder if that was a deliberate tactic by Kompany to just focus on the defence, given they already have 8 points advantage. Maybe his strategy was to keep the status quo rather than take a risk and expose themselves to the possibility of a loss. I don't know. But, as I said before, 8 points might be impossible for Leverkusen to catch up.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: UNIVERSE on February 16, 2025, 11:59:01 PM
What a shameful display it was today from Bayern Munich and Bayer Leverkusen. Ninety minutes and not a single goal. Worse was that there was not even a shot on target for Bayern Munich
I agree that Bayern Munich played very badly but I don't think Leverkusen showed a shameful display. Leverkusen has played with an offensive strategy, they made many shot opportunities. Unfortunately, Leverkusen players failed to score a single goal. I think it is because Xabi Alonso didn't use pure strikers since the early of the match. It is a bit annoying to see Patrik Schick and Victor Boniface in the bench. Sometimes, Xabi Alonso used a strange lineup. This makes the chance for scoring goals is lower. Again and again, Xabi Alonso made a mistake in applying a proper starting lineup.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 17, 2025, 01:21:04 PM
I just watched the highlights of Leverkusen - Bayern Munich. There's no doubt Xabi Alonso's team deserved 3 points, but were just out of luck. They dominated the game in shots on goal and in terms of scoring chances created, they also had a small advantage in possession, but the results are not always fair and it's one of those cases.
Unless the highlights I watched are not a good reflection of the game, Bayern almost didn't exist. I guess you could give them some credit for effective defence and not losing a single goal, but they didn't pose any threat in the offence.
I wonder if that was a deliberate tactic by Kompany to just focus on the defence, given they already have 8 points advantage. Maybe his strategy was to keep the status quo rather than take a risk and expose themselves to the possibility of a loss. I don't know. But, as I said before, 8 points might be impossible for Leverkusen to catch up.

I agree, Kompany prioritizes not losing over winning the game to maintain a lead in the table, That is cowardly football at its best. This is a journey from genius to madness. lol
It's finally clear that at Bayern no coach is the problem, The management just needs to clean up and sign some hungry players who have not yet achieved success.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on February 17, 2025, 09:38:18 PM
What a shameful display it was today from Bayern Munich and Bayer Leverkusen. Ninety minutes and not a single goal. Worse was that there was not even a shot on target for Bayern Munich
I agree that Bayern Munich played very badly but I don't think Leverkusen showed a shameful display. Leverkusen has played with an offensive strategy, they made many shot opportunities. Unfortunately, Leverkusen players failed to score a single goal. I think it is because Xabi Alonso didn't use pure strikers since the early of the match. It is a bit annoying to see Patrik Schick and Victor Boniface in the bench. Sometimes, Xabi Alonso used a strange lineup. This makes the chance for scoring goals is lower. Again and again, Xabi Alonso made a mistake in applying a proper starting lineup.
Leverkusen problem this season has been goal scoring because they have been playing well but finishing has been the problem no thanks to their strikers boniface their wonder striker has been struggling with injuries and form that is why Madrid has been leading the bundesliga table with these plenty points if not I don't personally see what bayern munich is playing because with all due respect to bayern they have been playing badly this season this bayern team is one of the worst bayern teams I have seen in recent times
Xabi Alonso should have bring in one or two quality strikers in the just closed January transfer window to complement the striking force because with the way things are this season Leverkusen firing power can't match up with that of bayern munich
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on February 21, 2025, 12:28:49 AM
Easy game, it was not, but Bayern managed to score a late equaliser and drew with Celtic 1-1 in the second leg of the Champions League playoffs. Given they defeated Celtic 2-1 in the first leg, they are going through to the final 16.
What's interesting, in the round of 16 they will face either Atletico Madrid or... Baer Leverkusen. I have a strong feeling it will be the latter. We'll have to wait till tomorrow though.
If Leverkusen is not matched with Bayern, they will be playing against Real Madrid, so no easy options for them.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on February 21, 2025, 01:03:05 PM
Easy game, it was not, but Bayern managed to score a late equaliser and drew with Celtic 1-1 in the second leg of the Champions League playoffs. Given they defeated Celtic 2-1 in the first leg, they are going through to the final 16.
What's interesting, in the round of 16 they will face either Atletico Madrid or... Baer Leverkusen. I have a strong feeling it will be the latter. We'll have to wait till tomorrow though.
If Leverkusen is not matched with Bayern, they will be playing against Real Madrid, so no easy options for them.
I have to appreciate Celtic in this match, because they really could give a fierce resistance to Bayern Munich. Although the home team dominated the game, they almost managed to trouble and force Bayern Munich to play extra in the extra round.

I can't say it was lucky for Bayern Munich with the goal they scored at the end, because statistically their game was also good.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 21, 2025, 04:34:53 PM
Easy game, it was not, but Bayern managed to score a late equaliser and drew with Celtic 1-1 in the second leg of the Champions League playoffs. Given they defeated Celtic 2-1 in the first leg, they are going through to the final 16.
What's interesting, in the round of 16 they will face either Atletico Madrid or... Baer Leverkusen. I have a strong feeling it will be the latter. We'll have to wait till tomorrow though.
If Leverkusen is not matched with Bayern, they will be playing against Real Madrid, so no easy options for them.
I have to appreciate Celtic in this match, because they really could give a fierce resistance to Bayern Munich. Although the home team dominated the game, they almost managed to trouble and force Bayern Munich to play extra in the extra round.

I can't say it was lucky for Bayern Munich with the goal they scored at the end, because statistically their game was also good.

Agreed. I was impressed with Celtic's performance. Celtic were the best team in the two matches...
Bayern almost did not qualify for the next round against a club playing in the Scottish league. lol
Bayern couldn't do what was expected of them on the pitch, and what should be normal for FC Bayern Munich and it was a shame when Bayern celebrated.
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Post by: pawel7777 on February 21, 2025, 06:50:57 PM
Agreed. I was impressed with Celtic's performance. Celtic were the best team in the two matches...
Bayern almost did not qualify for the next round against a club playing in the Scottish league. lol
Bayern couldn't do what was expected of them on the pitch, and what should be normal for FC Bayern Munich and it was a shame when Bayern celebrated.

I haven't watched the whole game, only the highlights, but Bayern looked a bit pale. The statistics are all there and judging by them, it looked like Bayern had total control over the game, but I think Celtic was the team that could create better chances and with a bit of luck, they could've won that game.
Bayern has had incredible statistic of goals per game ratio at the beginning of the season, but it seems they're slowing down a bit. Maybe it's their style is effective against weak teams, but when they face tougher opponents something doesn't work as it should.
But, to their credit, they are still at the top of the league and only a disaster can stop them from winning it, and they got through to the round of 16 of UCL, so, despite occasional disappointments, they must be doing something right.
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Post by: Agbe on February 21, 2025, 07:06:37 PM
Today in the German bundesliga Freiburg which is in 5th place play host to werder Bremen this game will be an exciting game because Freiburg will look to extend their winning streak as they are in a winning row of three matches which brem has not won in their last two games so they will like to come back to winning ways in this game. A win for Freiburg will see them move up to 4th on the table which will place them on the champions League spot on the table this game surprised to be a cracker because i see Bremen giving Freiburg a good run for their money
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on February 22, 2025, 01:25:43 PM
It was a walk in the park for Freiburg yesterday. They destroyed Werder 5-0 and are now occupying 4th place which would grant them participation in the Champions League if they managed to keep it till the end of the season, but I doubt they will.

Fixtures and odds (by DuelBits) for all the remaining games in this round:

FSV Mainz 05 x1.77 Vs FC St Pauli x4.75; Draw x3.60
Borussia Mönchengladbach x1.90 Vs FC Augsburg x4.00; Draw x3.66
Holstein Kiel x12.00 Vs Bayer 04 Leverkusen x1.23; Draw x6.50
VfL Wolfsburg x1.58 Vs VfL Bochum 1848 x5.33; Draw x4.33
Borussia Dortmund x1.41 Vs 1. FC Union Berlin x7.50; Draw x4.75
RB Leipzig x1.33 Vs 1. FC Heidenheim 1846 x8.50; Draw x5.50
Bayern München x1.32 Vs Eintracht Frankfurt x8.00; Draw x6.00
TSG Hoffenheim x3.50 Vs VfB Stuttgart x1.94; Draw x4.00

The most interesting one is, of course, Bayern taking on 3rd Eintracht. Bookies expect it to be an easy win for Bayern, but Eintracht might surprise and steal some points. They are 3rd in the table for a reason and they've been undefeated in the Bundesliga in the last 7 games.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on February 22, 2025, 01:49:57 PM
I have to appreciate Celtic in this match, because they really could give a fierce resistance to Bayern Munich. Although the home team dominated the game, they almost managed to trouble and force Bayern Munich to play extra in the extra round.

I can't say it was lucky for Bayern Munich with the goal they scored at the end, because statistically their game was also good.

Agreed. I was impressed with Celtic's performance. Celtic were the best team in the two matches...
Bayern almost did not qualify for the next round against a club playing in the Scottish league. lol
Bayern couldn't do what was expected of them on the pitch, and what should be normal for FC Bayern Munich and it was a shame when Bayern celebrated.
Yes, it seems that I'm not the only one who feels that way, despite their defeat so that they couldn't qualify, but in terms of their game they were good. maybe even if it wasn't Bayern Munich who was their opponent in this match, then they would have been able to win and qualify for the round of 16.

Now Bayern Munich can be a little calm, but they have to quickly prepare themselves to face their opponent in the round of 16 which is not easy. Btw they will face Leverkusen.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 22, 2025, 04:16:10 PM

Bayern has had incredible statistic of goals per game ratio at the beginning of the season, but it seems they're slowing down a bit. Maybe it's their style is effective against weak teams, but when they face tougher opponents something doesn't work as it should.
But, to their credit, they are still at the top of the league and only a disaster can stop them from winning it, and they got through to the round of 16 of UCL, so, despite occasional disappointments, they must be doing something right.

Criticism will always appear for every half, it is a fact that in the UCL against Celtic for me they were too lucky to score the Winning goal in the last 20 seconds, so this generated as a consequence that things were more dramatic, in the Bundesliga they are doing well, the team that can bring them down from the cloud is undoubtedly Leverkusen , and this is difficult to happen but it is possible, for me it is well deserved given the position they have Both in the Bundesliga and in the UCL.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on February 22, 2025, 06:21:36 PM
Leverkusen got a vital away win as they defeated holstein Kiel by 0:2 this win is a good way to bounce back as they have not been getting good results especially away from home Leverkusen has really gone behind Bayarn Munich by plenty points and this win is a good way of bouncing back to form and reducing the points difference knowing that bayern munich has too has not been that fantastic with their performance like that. I believe that the title race is not over yet because if there is any thing that I like about Leverkusen is their not giving up spirit so I see Leverkusen fighting to the last week of the season
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 22, 2025, 08:30:33 PM
Leverkusen got a vital away win as they defeated holstein Kiel by 0:2 this win is a good way to bounce back as they have not been getting good results especially away from home Leverkusen has really gone behind Bayarn Munich by plenty points and this win is a good way of bouncing back to form and reducing the points difference knowing that bayern munich has too has not been that fantastic with their performance like that. I believe that the title race is not over yet because if there is any thing that I like about Leverkusen is their not giving up spirit so I see Leverkusen fighting to the last week of the season

Yep. Leverkusen took home three points from Holstein Kiel, a good win, and a clean sheet. This didn't surprise me given the quality of the players on this team, it was inevitable that Leverkusen would score. However, I must commend the team for the way they worked and fought as a team.
It's a great comeback from Amine Adli and another record in the Xabi books. Xabi Alonso is the first Bundesliga manager to go unbeaten in 28 consecutive away games.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on February 22, 2025, 10:21:16 PM
Leverkusen got a vital away win as they defeated holstein Kiel by 0:2 this win is a good way to bounce back as they have not been getting good results especially away from home Leverkusen has really gone behind Bayarn Munich by plenty points and this win is a good way of bouncing back to form and reducing the points difference knowing that bayern munich has too has not been that fantastic with their performance like that. I believe that the title race is not over yet because if there is any thing that I like about Leverkusen is their not giving up spirit so I see Leverkusen fighting to the last week of the season

Yep. Leverkusen took home three points from Holstein Kiel, a good win, and a clean sheet. This didn't surprise me given the quality of the players on this team, it was inevitable that Leverkusen would score. However, I must commend the team for the way they worked and fought as a team.
It's a great comeback from Amine Adli and another record in the Xabi books. Xabi Alonso is the first Bundesliga manager to go unbeaten in 28 consecutive away games.
Yes, Leverkusen once again proved the high level of the team by having an obvious victory in the match and remarkable teamwork. The ability to maintain a clean sheet also corresponds with the fact that they are hardy in every line of play. Xabi Alonso’s records clearly show that under his lead, this team has transformed into a rather Impregnable team or force. For me it is not only matching the goals but the manner in which they play organised and with great regularity is what I know deserves praise. Amine Adli also brings more positive attitude for the team and his return must be considered a positive aspect. Such performances give further clue of their intent in the current season and it will be good to know how far they can go.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on February 23, 2025, 03:42:25 PM
Leverkusen got a vital away win as they defeated holstein Kiel by 0:2 this win is a good way to bounce back as they have not been getting good results especially away from home Leverkusen has really gone behind Bayarn Munich by plenty points and this win is a good way of bouncing back to form and reducing the points difference knowing that bayern munich has too has not been that fantastic with their performance like that. I believe that the title race is not over yet because if there is any thing that I like about Leverkusen is their not giving up spirit so I see Leverkusen fighting to the last week of the season
This result is good for them, at least they can keep the distance with Bayern Munich from widening further. But still it is a difficult distance to catch up.

5 points is their distance now, at least before Bayern Munich plays their match this week. Looking at the opponent they will face, it is actually quite difficult for Bayern Munich, because their opponent is also in good condition.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on February 23, 2025, 07:02:52 PM
Leverkusen got a vital away win as they defeated holstein Kiel by 0:2 this win is a good way to bounce back as they have not been getting good results especially away from home Leverkusen has really gone behind Bayarn Munich by plenty points and this win is a good way of bouncing back to form and reducing the points difference knowing that bayern munich has too has not been that fantastic with their performance like that. I believe that the title race is not over yet because if there is any thing that I like about Leverkusen is their not giving up spirit so I see Leverkusen fighting to the last week of the season
This result is good for them, at least they can keep the distance with Bayern Munich from widening further. But still it is a difficult distance to catch up.

5 points is their distance now, at least before Bayern Munich plays their match this week. Looking at the opponent they will face, it is actually quite difficult for Bayern Munich, because their opponent is also in good condition.
Bayern Munich is currently winning Eintracht frankfurt by 1:0 at home the game looks difficult for bayern but they have been able to control the game and gottan this very important goals in this game there is still time for both teams to score goals and get all three points. A win for bayern will see them go eight points clear of Leverkusen but am one person who still believes that the league is not over even with a eight points difference by bayern because there are allot of matches still Left to play and bayern too is likely to drop points before the ending of the season
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 24, 2025, 07:59:50 PM
Leverkusen got a vital away win as they defeated holstein Kiel by 0:2 this win is a good way to bounce back as they have not been getting good results especially away from home Leverkusen has really gone behind Bayarn Munich by plenty points and this win is a good way of bouncing back to form and reducing the points difference knowing that bayern munich has too has not been that fantastic with their performance like that. I believe that the title race is not over yet because if there is any thing that I like about Leverkusen is their not giving up spirit so I see Leverkusen fighting to the last week of the season
This result is good for them, at least they can keep the distance with Bayern Munich from widening further. But still it is a difficult distance to catch up.

5 points is their distance now, at least before Bayern Munich plays their match this week. Looking at the opponent they will face, it is actually quite difficult for Bayern Munich, because their opponent is also in good condition.
Bayern Munich is currently winning Eintracht frankfurt by 1:0 at home the game looks difficult for bayern but they have been able to control the game and gottan this very important goals in this game there is still time for both teams to score goals and get all three points. A win for bayern will see them go eight points clear of Leverkusen but am one person who still believes that the league is not over even with a eight points difference by bayern because there are allot of matches still Left to play and bayern too is likely to drop points before the ending of the season

The Bundesliga and Premier League are almost over, Liverpool and Bayern will be the champions. IMO
Liverpool has no competition at all, this is the worst title race in the history of the Premier League, the same goes for the Bundesliga, they want us to believe that there is plenty of competition, but in reality, we already know what the competition is like in the Bundesliga and the Premier League. :)
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on February 25, 2025, 11:21:08 AM
Leverkusen got a vital away win as they defeated holstein Kiel by 0:2 this win is a good way to bounce back as they have not been getting good results especially away from home Leverkusen has really gone behind Bayarn Munich by plenty points and this win is a good way of bouncing back to form and reducing the points difference knowing that bayern munich has too has not been that fantastic with their performance like that. I believe that the title race is not over yet because if there is any thing that I like about Leverkusen is their not giving up spirit so I see Leverkusen fighting to the last week of the season
This result is good for them, at least they can keep the distance with Bayern Munich from widening further. But still it is a difficult distance to catch up.

5 points is their distance now, at least before Bayern Munich plays their match this week. Looking at the opponent they will face, it is actually quite difficult for Bayern Munich, because their opponent is also in good condition.
Bayern Munich is currently winning Eintracht frankfurt by 1:0 at home the game looks difficult for bayern but they have been able to control the game and gottan this very important goals in this game there is still time for both teams to score goals and get all three points. A win for bayern will see them go eight points clear of Leverkusen but am one person who still believes that the league is not over even with a eight points difference by bayern because there are allot of matches still Left to play and bayern too is likely to drop points before the ending of the season
In the victory won by Bayern Munich, they gained more points that make it all the more difficult for other teams to try to overtake them. In fact, Bayern Munich gets the victory frequently in this competition, Leverkusen will have a difficult time that attempts to take the first place by attempting to earn the points that remain behind it. Thus, victory fruits have advantages, but at the same time, the lesson one learns is that everything is not as simple as it seems once you win. Each team has the chance to demonstrate something of themselves until the last point and that is why the thing is rather stimulating to observe. We have to observe how everything happens and we have to shift our focus on to the next match.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on February 25, 2025, 06:49:10 PM
This season I think it seems that the god's are in favour of bayern munich because even though they are not playing well results seems to be going their way and the point gap is increasing everyday and with the current  standings on the table bayern munich is leading Leverkusen with eight points and this is a good way to go about it because all what they need now is to maintain this form and make sure that they don't lose any game but for Leverkusen I think one team that has that fighting spirit that don't give up easily is Leverkusen so eight points is not too big for Leverkusen to catch up if they don't give up easily
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on February 25, 2025, 10:47:55 PM
Bayern's 4-0 win over Frankfurt was eye-opening. You could think it would be a more even game, given Frankfurt doing really good this season, comfortably sitting in the top 3, but that game proved there's a big gap between those 2 teams and Bayern was simply on a different level. The only team that could pose a challenge to them is Leverkusen, but they drew too many times and are now 8 points behind, which is huge. Both of them will face each other in the next round of the Champions League.

Good game by Dortmund is also worth noting. Hopefully the 6-0 win over Union Berlin will restore their confidence and we'll see them at their best again. They might be on a distant, 10th place currently, but they are 7 points away from the top 4, so, if they get themselves sorted out, they could potentially get back at the top.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on February 26, 2025, 02:28:05 PM
Let's look at the relegation zone position, there is still a tough competition, and among the 3 teams still have to fight to get out of that zone, at least they can be in the play-off round to determine their fate next season. Their distance from the team in the safe zone is 6 points, that is a difficult distance. Even Holstein Keil has a distance of 8 points if they want to catch up with the team in the safe zone.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 26, 2025, 03:13:25 PM

Good game by Dortmund is also worth noting. Hopefully the 6-0 win over Union Berlin will restore their confidence and we'll see them at their best again. They might be on a distant, 10th place currently, but they are 7 points away from the top 4, so, if they get themselves sorted out, they could potentially get back at the top.

A good day for the black and yellows.
I am happy for Dortmund, but the way Steffen Baumgart set up Union's tactics was a surprise.
Hardly any Union fan expected a point in Dortmund, but this 6-0 was an admission of failure at the highest level.
This victory could be a turning point for Dortmund or just a temporary usual upward swing because it is not every day that Dortmund faces such a disorganized team.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on February 26, 2025, 09:37:32 PM

Good game by Dortmund is also worth noting. Hopefully the 6-0 win over Union Berlin will restore their confidence and we'll see them at their best again. They might be on a distant, 10th place currently, but they are 7 points away from the top 4, so, if they get themselves sorted out, they could potentially get back at the top.

A good day for the black and yellows.
I am happy for Dortmund, but the way Steffen Baumgart set up Union's tactics was a surprise.
Hardly any Union fan expected a point in Dortmund, but this 6-0 was an admission of failure at the highest level.
This victory could be a turning point for Dortmund or just a temporary usual upward swing because it is not every day that Dortmund faces such a disorganized team.
Dortmund under this new coach is starting to get it right because right from the champions League playoffs I have seen an improvement in this Dortmund side as they have become a more attacking minded team this is what was lacking in this Dortmund side moving forward they should maintain this kind of performance because it's going to help them in the champions League , scoring 6 goals is a statement that means that they are back to form in the league and because Dortmund has not been doing so great so far  this season as they have been struggling moving forward Dortmund should continue this way because the season is coming to a close so they could finish in a European spots at the end of the season
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on February 27, 2025, 01:08:01 PM

Good game by Dortmund is also worth noting. Hopefully the 6-0 win over Union Berlin will restore their confidence and we'll see them at their best again. They might be on a distant, 10th place currently, but they are 7 points away from the top 4, so, if they get themselves sorted out, they could potentially get back at the top.

A good day for the black and yellows.
I am happy for Dortmund, but the way Steffen Baumgart set up Union's tactics was a surprise.
Hardly any Union fan expected a point in Dortmund, but this 6-0 was an admission of failure at the highest level.
This victory could be a turning point for Dortmund or just a temporary usual upward swing because it is not every day that Dortmund faces such a disorganized team.
I can probably say that this is one of the best games that Borussia Dortmund can show this season, they performed very well with impressive and effective play.

Honestly, before I doubted them in this match. Not doubting that they can't win, but their form of play might not be as good as this and also when they win they win by a narrow score, but they managed to answer it.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on February 27, 2025, 05:26:12 PM

Good game by Dortmund is also worth noting. Hopefully the 6-0 win over Union Berlin will restore their confidence and we'll see them at their best again. They might be on a distant, 10th place currently, but they are 7 points away from the top 4, so, if they get themselves sorted out, they could potentially get back at the top.

A good day for the black and yellows.
I am happy for Dortmund, but the way Steffen Baumgart set up Union's tactics was a surprise.
Hardly any Union fan expected a point in Dortmund, but this 6-0 was an admission of failure at the highest level.
This victory could be a turning point for Dortmund or just a temporary usual upward swing because it is not every day that Dortmund faces such a disorganized team.
Good result for Dortmund after success defeating Union Berlin over 6-0 since have bad trend in last several consecutives matches in domestic league, but current standings Dortmund still outside from UEFA Champion League spot place and have 6 points left reach the to fourth position.
However winning over 6-0 from Union Berlin make confidence for upcoming match and Dortmund will face St. Pauli before facing Lille at Champion League knock out round match, now Dortmund must rotate their player although must secure three points for upcoming match.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 27, 2025, 07:17:06 PM

Good game by Dortmund is also worth noting. Hopefully the 6-0 win over Union Berlin will restore their confidence and we'll see them at their best again. They might be on a distant, 10th place currently, but they are 7 points away from the top 4, so, if they get themselves sorted out, they could potentially get back at the top.

A good day for the black and yellows.
I am happy for Dortmund, but the way Steffen Baumgart set up Union's tactics was a surprise.
Hardly any Union fan expected a point in Dortmund, but this 6-0 was an admission of failure at the highest level.
This victory could be a turning point for Dortmund or just a temporary usual upward swing because it is not every day that Dortmund faces such a disorganized team.
Dortmund under this new coach is starting to get it right because right from the champions League playoffs I have seen an improvement in this Dortmund side as they have become a more attacking minded team this is what was lacking in this Dortmund side moving forward they should maintain this kind of performance because it's going to help them in the champions League , scoring 6 goals is a statement that means that they are back to form in the league and because Dortmund has not been doing so great so far  this season as they have been struggling moving forward Dortmund should continue this way because the season is coming to a close so they could finish in a European spots at the end of the season

In their last five games, Dortmund has lost to Stuttgart, scored three goals in Portugal but failed to find the net against Sporting in Germany, lost and not score at Bochum, and now a 6-0 win over Union Berlin.
The win over Union Berlin was a big step forward, but they're not where they want to be yet Niko Kovač knows this situation, he understands that things can quickly turn the other way. So he must move quickly to analyze the mistakes to stabilize the team.
However, I don't think he is an offensive-minded coach. He always fell short of establishing a proper offense structure in the long term. IMO
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on February 27, 2025, 11:05:48 PM
All fixtures for this weekend together with odds (from DuelBits):

VfB Stuttgart x5.00 Vs Bayern München x1.61; Draw x4.33
FC Heidenheim 1846 x3.00 Vs Borussia Mönchengladbach x2.28; Draw x3.60
FC St Pauli x4.20 Vs Borussia Dortmund x1.87; Draw x3.60
RB Leipzig x1.96 Vs 1. FSV Mainz 05 x3.75; Draw x3.66
SV Werder Bremen x2.57 Vs Vit. Wolfsburg x2.66; Draw x3.50
Vit. Bochum 1848 x2.42 Vs TSG Hoffenheim x2.83; Draw x3.50
Eintracht Frankfurt x4.75 Vs Bayer 04 Leverkusen x1.73; Draw x3.80
FC Union Berlin x1.58 Vs Holstein Kiel x5.33; Draw x4.33
FC Augsburg x2.66 Vs SC Freiburg x2.80; Draw x3.14

Potentially tough games for Bayern and Leverkusen. Stuttgart is a bit inconsistent this season, but if they play at 100%, they might be able to earn at least a point. Leverkusen is playing away in Frankfurt. Eintracht has lost some steam recently, they only won once in the last 5 games, but they're still dangerous.
If Eintracht loses, it could be a good opportunity for Freiburg to jump up to the 3rd place.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on February 28, 2025, 08:54:54 AM
All fixtures for this weekend together with odds (from DuelBits):

VfB Stuttgart x5.00 Vs Bayern München x1.61; Draw x4.33
FC Heidenheim 1846 x3.00 Vs Borussia Mönchengladbach x2.28; Draw x3.60
FC St Pauli x4.20 Vs Borussia Dortmund x1.87; Draw x3.60
RB Leipzig x1.96 Vs 1. FSV Mainz 05 x3.75; Draw x3.66
SV Werder Bremen x2.57 Vs Vit. Wolfsburg x2.66; Draw x3.50
Vit. Bochum 1848 x2.42 Vs TSG Hoffenheim x2.83; Draw x3.50
Eintracht Frankfurt x4.75 Vs Bayer 04 Leverkusen x1.73; Draw x3.80
FC Union Berlin x1.58 Vs Holstein Kiel x5.33; Draw x4.33
FC Augsburg x2.66 Vs SC Freiburg x2.80; Draw x3.14

Potentially tough games for Bayern and Leverkusen. Stuttgart is a bit inconsistent this season, but if they play at 100%, they might be able to earn at least a point. Leverkusen is playing away in Frankfurt. Eintracht has lost some steam recently, they only won once in the last 5 games, but they're still dangerous.
If Eintracht loses, it could be a good opportunity for Freiburg to jump up to the 3rd place.
tough matches coming up for the top two teams because both of them are playing away against teams that are not doing that great and that makes it dangerous for the both teams because for Leverkusen they have not been good on the road as they have not been getting maximum three points when they go away and coming up a frankfurt side that is  in third place and is looking forward to improving their performance and position in the table am not too sure if Leverkusen can get maximum three points from this game because frankfurt is likely to win this game. I think the point game will be increased the more this weekend in the bundesliga table if bayern munich can get a win today against stuttgart
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on February 28, 2025, 04:33:06 PM
In week 24, Leverkusen and Frankfurt will face each other, this will be a tough match for both of them considering what they have shown this season.

The advantage for Leverkusen is that they will play as the host, so they can take advantage of that. However, that also cannot be a guarantee for them, because Frankfurt has the ability to beat them.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on February 28, 2025, 07:44:36 PM
All fixtures for this weekend together with odds (from DuelBits):

VfB Stuttgart x5.00 Vs Bayern München x1.61; Draw x4.33
FC Heidenheim 1846 x3.00 Vs Borussia Mönchengladbach x2.28; Draw x3.60
FC St Pauli x4.20 Vs Borussia Dortmund x1.87; Draw x3.60
RB Leipzig x1.96 Vs 1. FSV Mainz 05 x3.75; Draw x3.66
SV Werder Bremen x2.57 Vs Vit. Wolfsburg x2.66; Draw x3.50
Vit. Bochum 1848 x2.42 Vs TSG Hoffenheim x2.83; Draw x3.50
Eintracht Frankfurt x4.75 Vs Bayer 04 Leverkusen x1.73; Draw x3.80
FC Union Berlin x1.58 Vs Holstein Kiel x5.33; Draw x4.33
FC Augsburg x2.66 Vs SC Freiburg x2.80; Draw x3.14

Potentially tough games for Bayern and Leverkusen. Stuttgart is a bit inconsistent this season, but if they play at 100%, they might be able to earn at least a point. Leverkusen is playing away in Frankfurt. Eintracht has lost some steam recently, they only won once in the last 5 games, but they're still dangerous.
If Eintracht loses, it could be a good opportunity for Freiburg to jump up to the 3rd place.
tough matches coming up for the top two teams because both of them are playing away against teams that are not doing that great and that makes it dangerous for the both teams because for Leverkusen they have not been good on the road as they have not been getting maximum three points when they go away and coming up a frankfurt side that is  in third place and is looking forward to improving their performance and position in the table am not too sure if Leverkusen can get maximum three points from this game because frankfurt is likely to win this game. I think the point game will be increased the more this weekend in the bundesliga table if bayern munich can get a win today against stuttgart
I don't see any of these matches to be tough of eother Leverkusen or Bayern, because these two teams are the strongest and I don't expect their opponents to share point with any of them. Bayern needs the trophy and for that reason, they will make sure that they win Stuttgart tonight. While Leverkusen needs to keep the rhythm playing in order for them to be on track with Bayern for the title race.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on February 28, 2025, 09:09:04 PM
In week 24, Leverkusen and Frankfurt will face each other, this will be a tough match for both of them considering what they have shown this season.

The advantage for Leverkusen is that they will play as the host, so they can take advantage of that. However, that also cannot be a guarantee for them, because Frankfurt has the ability to beat them.

Frankfurt have failed to keep a clean sheet in their last six games, a period in which they have conceded 11 goals.
Leverkusen, meanwhile, have kept three clean sheets in a row.
Xabi's squad is confident that they will be able to beat Eintracht Frankfurt because they are currently in incredible form. They are unbeaten in 21 Bundesliga games this season.
And Leverkusen have won four of their last five games against Frankfurt. So I bet on Leverkusen to win.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on February 28, 2025, 11:33:36 PM
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/02/28/qbCpo.png)

The opening game of matchday 24 is completed. Stuttgart had a good start and took the lead, but their joy didn't last very long. Bayern pressed harder, and it paid off. Not a terrible game by Stuttgart, but you could tell the difference in skills. The third goal for Bayern was a bit of embarrassment and shouldn't have happened in that level of competition.

Only ten games to go for Bayern, and I think it's clear that only a disaster could prevent them from winning the league.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on February 28, 2025, 11:39:46 PM
Xabi's squad is confident that they will be able to beat Eintracht Frankfurt because they are currently in incredible form. They are unbeaten in 21 Bundesliga games this season.
And Leverkusen have won four of their last five games against Frankfurt. So I bet on Leverkusen to win.
No matter the form that Bayern Leverkusen are in, I think they will still finish in second place in the Bundesliga table this season because Bayern are not letting go of their first position. For Leverkusen though, it will be a plus if they can finish this game with three points and after this prepare to face Bayern on March 5th. If Leverkusen can get six points from this two games, then maybe their title hopes are not yet over.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 01, 2025, 08:19:33 PM
Xabi's squad is confident that they will be able to beat Eintracht Frankfurt because they are currently in incredible form. They are unbeaten in 21 Bundesliga games this season.
And Leverkusen have won four of their last five games against Frankfurt. So I bet on Leverkusen to win.
No matter the form that Bayern Leverkusen are in, I think they will still finish in second place in the Bundesliga table this season because Bayern are not letting go of their first position. For Leverkusen though, it will be a plus if they can finish this game with three points and after this prepare to face Bayern on March 5th. If Leverkusen can get six points from this two games, then maybe their title hopes are not yet over.

The title race is still on and Leverkusen is on the right track.
Now, Leverkusen leads with a score of 1-4 from Frankfurt, and it looks like this result will last until the last minute.
With the team's performance improving, the round of 16 matches away to Bayern will be even more interesting to wait for.
Kompany must be careful with the positive trends displayed by Alonso's squad.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 01, 2025, 09:40:34 PM
Xabi's squad is confident that they will be able to beat Eintracht Frankfurt because they are currently in incredible form. They are unbeaten in 21 Bundesliga games this season.
And Leverkusen have won four of their last five games against Frankfurt. So I bet on Leverkusen to win.
No matter the form that Bayern Leverkusen are in, I think they will still finish in second place in the Bundesliga table this season because Bayern are not letting go of their first position. For Leverkusen though, it will be a plus if they can finish this game with three points and after this prepare to face Bayern on March 5th. If Leverkusen can get six points from this two games, then maybe their title hopes are not yet over.

The title race is still on and Leverkusen is on the right track.
Now, Leverkusen leads with a score of 1-4 from Frankfurt, and it looks like this result will last until the last minute.
With the team's performance improving, the round of 16 matches away to Bayern will be even more interesting to wait for.
Kompany must be careful with the positive trends displayed by Alonso's squad.
Great performance for Leverkusen as they recommended a 1:4 victory away this result is coming at the right time because Leverkusen can't afford to drop any point again as the title race is getting tougher for Leverkusen because bayern munich is not showing any signs of dropping points because they have been on a winning streak in the bundesliga table. Winning like this is going to put confidence and self believe in the mind of the players great performance by Leverkusen as they had total control of the game and scoring four goals away from home is a sign that they are back to form and is ready to battle it out with bayern munich for the title race
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on March 02, 2025, 12:13:42 AM
Results of all the games of round 24 played so far:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/01/qWdCN.png)

There are 2 games left to play tomorrow and one on Mon.
An impressive win by Leverkusen. It looked like a potentially tough game, but they made it look easy. Leverkusen's chances for defending the championship are very slim, but so is the risk of them losing their current 2nd place.

Big win by Mainz who moved up to the 4rth place at least till Mon (when Freiburg plays with Augsburg).
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on March 02, 2025, 12:17:46 PM
Results of all the games of round 24 played so far:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/01/qWdCN.png)

There are 2 games left to play tomorrow and one on Mon.
An impressive win by Leverkusen. It looked like a potentially tough game, but they made it look easy. Leverkusen's chances for defending the championship are very slim, but so is the risk of them losing their current 2nd place.

Big win by Mainz who moved up to the 4rth place at least till Mon (when Freiburg plays with Augsburg).
Victory can be achieved by the team in first place and the team in second place, so there is no change in the points gap they currently have.

Bayern Munich can still be comfortably at the top of the standings, it seems they will be able to win the title again this season. That is indeed the target they have set, and Kompany has been able to lead the squad well so far.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 02, 2025, 09:29:23 PM
Results of all the games of round 24 played so far:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/01/qWdCN.png)

There are 2 games left to play tomorrow and one on Mon.
An impressive win by Leverkusen. It looked like a potentially tough game, but they made it look easy. Leverkusen's chances for defending the championship are very slim, but so is the risk of them losing their current 2nd place.

Big win by Mainz who moved up to the 4rth place at least till Mon (when Freiburg plays with Augsburg).
Victory can be achieved by the team in first place and the team in second place, so there is no change in the points gap they currently have.

Bayern Munich can still be comfortably at the top of the standings, it seems they will be able to win the title again this season. That is indeed the target they have set, and Kompany has been able to lead the squad well so far.
great performance from the bundesliga this week end as the different matches that was played across the German bundesliga produced a lot of goals one thing that I love about the German bundesliga is that they produce a lot of goals and this week end was not an exception as there was a rain of goals from all matches that was played especially for the top two teams that are fighting for the title because bayern munich and Leverkusen produced a total of nine goals from goals in their respective matches this weekend this is a good one for the league because going into the champions League other teams will find it hard to compete with teams from the bundesliga because of their goal scoring ratio
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on March 03, 2025, 09:31:55 PM
Victory can be achieved by the team in first place and the team in second place, so there is no change in the points gap they currently have.

Bayern Munich can still be comfortably at the top of the standings, it seems they will be able to win the title again this season. That is indeed the target they have set, and Kompany has been able to lead the squad well so far.
great performance from the bundesliga this week end as the different matches that was played across the German bundesliga produced a lot of goals one thing that I love about the German bundesliga is that they produce a lot of goals and this week end was not an exception as there was a rain of goals from all matches that was played especially for the top two teams that are fighting for the title because bayern munich and Leverkusen produced a total of nine goals from goals in their respective matches this weekend this is a good one for the league because going into the champions League other teams will find it hard to compete with teams from the bundesliga because of their goal scoring ratio
Talking about goals, Bayern Munich as usual is the most productive team, they have scored 72 goals so far and that is quite different from other teams.

They are also the most solid team in the back line by being the team that has conceded the least goals. This is a promising statistic for them to be able to reclaim the title from Leverkusen.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on March 04, 2025, 09:56:00 AM
great performance from the bundesliga this week end as the different matches that was played across the German bundesliga produced a lot of goals one thing that I love about the German bundesliga is that they produce a lot of goals and this week end was not an exception as there was a rain of goals from all matches that was played especially for the top two teams that are fighting for the title because bayern munich and Leverkusen produced a total of nine goals from goals in their respective matches this weekend this is a good one for the league because going into the champions League other teams will find it hard to compete with teams from the bundesliga because of their goal scoring ratio
Matchs that is played with much intensity usually attracts the interest of the fans and this time the players seems to be extra aggressive and wild for the goal. I agree with the fact that Bundesliga is often associated with high attacking duels and the ability to score many goals by big teams contributes to the fascination with this league. Thus, the examples exhibited by the leading clubs look like drama and at the same time, prove that they can perform effectively at the European level. Such an open and direct kind of match ensures that every single match that is played is exciting and can be greatly anticipated especially by those who have an interest in fast moving and constantly surprising football matches.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 04, 2025, 05:42:40 PM

Big win by Mainz who moved up to the 4rth place at least till Mon (when Freiburg plays with Augsburg).

Mainz stay in 4th place as Freiburg only drew away to Augsburg
Freiburg played well, they dominated and it would have been nice if Freiburg had scored but it wasn't enough.
In the end, the defense decided it and it's a shame Freiburg had a bit of luck.
And we should also give credit to Finn Dahmen, who's just beaten Hitz's record of 398 minutes without conceding. That's the longest streak held by an Augsburg goalkeeper.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on March 05, 2025, 05:43:46 PM

Big win by Mainz who moved up to the 4rth place at least till Mon (when Freiburg plays with Augsburg).

Mainz stay in 4th place as Freiburg only drew away to Augsburg
Freiburg played well, they dominated and it would have been nice if Freiburg had scored but it wasn't enough.
In the end, the defense decided it and it's a shame Freiburg had a bit of luck.
And we should also give credit to Finn Dahmen, who's just beaten Hitz's record of 398 minutes without conceding. That's the longest streak held by an Augsburg goalkeeper.
There is a chance for Borussia Dortmund to get the 4th position. But until now their performance is still not promising to be there.

6 points is their distance from the team in 4th position, but even with 6 points they still have to compete with several teams that are above them at this time. It is a difficult job for them to pass several teams.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 05, 2025, 08:29:22 PM

Big win by Mainz who moved up to the 4rth place at least till Mon (when Freiburg plays with Augsburg).

Mainz stay in 4th place as Freiburg only drew away to Augsburg
Freiburg played well, they dominated and it would have been nice if Freiburg had scored but it wasn't enough.
In the end, the defense decided it and it's a shame Freiburg had a bit of luck.
And we should also give credit to Finn Dahmen, who's just beaten Hitz's record of 398 minutes without conceding. That's the longest streak held by an Augsburg goalkeeper.
There is a chance for Borussia Dortmund to get the 4th position. But until now their performance is still not promising to be there.

6 points is their distance from the team in 4th position, but even with 6 points they still have to compete with several teams that are above them at this time. It is a difficult job for them to pass several teams.
Dortmund has been improving in their performance of recent so the probability of them getting a fourth place finish can't be ruled out because for the past few games they have been impressive and played a fantastic game, and they also have the champions League to battle with but drawing against Lillie at home in the champions League first leg is not a good one because Lillie is one team that plays good football i was actually expecting Dortmund to get at least a 1:0 win from this game
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on March 05, 2025, 11:00:56 PM
The 1st leg game between Bayern and Leverkusen in the Champions League round of 16 has just ended.
I expected it to be an even game, given the most recent results of head to head games between those two, but it was a completely one sided show.
Leverkusen got demolished 3-0. An early goal by Kane set the tone, then another one by Musiala in the 54th and then a nail to the coffin for Leverkusen: a red card for Mukiele in the 62nd minute - after that, it was clear that Leverkusen wouldn't be able to do much and limited themselves to defense but with no luck, as they lost another one with Kane scoring from a penalty.

Looks like the Champions League dream is pretty much over for Leverkusen.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on March 06, 2025, 05:17:37 PM
There is a chance for Borussia Dortmund to get the 4th position. But until now their performance is still not promising to be there.

6 points is their distance from the team in 4th position, but even with 6 points they still have to compete with several teams that are above them at this time. It is a difficult job for them to pass several teams.
Dortmund has been improving in their performance of recent so the probability of them getting a fourth place finish can't be ruled out because for the past few games they have been impressive and played a fantastic game, and they also have the champions League to battle with but drawing against Lillie at home in the champions League first leg is not a good one because Lillie is one team that plays good football i was actually expecting Dortmund to get at least a 1:0 win from this game
they failed to win and had to draw in the Champions League, and that was a loss for them. That match they both played cautiously so that it made it difficult for each other to create opportunities.

It will be a challenge for them because they have to take turns to play at Lille's headquarters. Like it or not the pressure will be on them now, I want to see how they can get out of the pressure.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 06, 2025, 08:30:00 PM
The 1st leg game between Bayern and Leverkusen in the Champions League round of 16 has just ended.
I expected it to be an even game, given the most recent results of head to head games between those two, but it was a completely one sided show.
Leverkusen got demolished 3-0. An early goal by Kane set the tone, then another one by Musiala in the 54th and then a nail to the coffin for Leverkusen: a red card for Mukiele in the 62nd minute - after that, it was clear that Leverkusen wouldn't be able to do much and limited themselves to defense but with no luck, as they lost another one with Kane scoring from a penalty.

Looks like the Champions League dream is pretty much over for Leverkusen.

I don't understand Alonso's tactics starting a game where they need a goal without a striker. It's weird...
He benched Patrick Schick, Nathan Tella, and Victor Boniface against Bayern Munich, what does Alonso expect?
You have strikers, you don't use them. Leverkusen lost because of Xavi Alonso's tactics and not because Bayern were better...
So it's all over, Bayern München has qualified...
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 06, 2025, 09:22:52 PM
The 1st leg game between Bayern and Leverkusen in the Champions League round of 16 has just ended.
I expected it to be an even game, given the most recent results of head to head games between those two, but it was a completely one sided show.
Leverkusen got demolished 3-0. An early goal by Kane set the tone, then another one by Musiala in the 54th and then a nail to the coffin for Leverkusen: a red card for Mukiele in the 62nd minute - after that, it was clear that Leverkusen wouldn't be able to do much and limited themselves to defense but with no luck, as they lost another one with Kane scoring from a penalty.

Looks like the Champions League dream is pretty much over for Leverkusen.

I don't understand Alonso's tactics starting a game where they need a goal without a striker. It's weird...
He benched Patrick Schick, Nathan Tella, and Victor Boniface against Bayern Munich, what does Alonso expect?
You have strikers, you don't use them. Leverkusen lost because of Xavi Alonso's tactics and not because Bayern were better...
So it's all over, Bayern München has qualified...
I really know the rational behind Alonso benching all his top strikers in a very important match looks like this that is even a knock out stage of the champions League I think Alonso is starting to lose confidence on his players and it will not be a good one for the team because it's going to definitely have consequences on the team, because playing a champions League match without a striker is something that is of concern but let see how the second leg will go i can't say that the match is over because the second leg is there for Alonso to show his tactics and see if he will turn around things for Leverkusen
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on March 06, 2025, 09:28:05 PM
The 1st leg game between Bayern and Leverkusen in the Champions League round of 16 has just ended.
I expected it to be an even game, given the most recent results of head to head games between those two, but it was a completely one sided show.
Leverkusen got demolished 3-0. An early goal by Kane set the tone, then another one by Musiala in the 54th and then a nail to the coffin for Leverkusen: a red card for Mukiele in the 62nd minute - after that, it was clear that Leverkusen wouldn't be able to do much and limited themselves to defense but with no luck, as they lost another one with Kane scoring from a penalty.

Looks like the Champions League dream is pretty much over for Leverkusen.

I don't understand Alonso's tactics starting a game where they need a goal without a striker. It's weird...
He benched Patrick Schick, Nathan Tella, and Victor Boniface against Bayern Munich, what does Alonso expect?
You have strikers, you don't use them. Leverkusen lost because of Xavi Alonso's tactics and not because Bayern were better...
So it's all over, Bayern München has qualified...
I really know the rational behind Alonso benching all his top strikers in a very important match looks like this that is even a knock out stage of the champions League I think Alonso is starting to lose confidence on his players and it will not be a good one for the team because it's going to definitely have consequences on the team, because playing a champions League match without a striker is something that is of concern but let see how the second leg will go i can't say that the match is over because the second leg is there for Alonso to show his tactics and see if he will turn around things for Leverkusen
Wake up from your dream mate, how do you expect Leverkusen to win Bayern 4-0 and qualify to the quarter finals. It's impossible because the match might end in a draw. We need to talk about realistic things that will play out. On paper and on  praticals , Bayern is better than Leverkusen this season. Bayern will definitely win Bundesliga. Leverkusen is out of the competition.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 06, 2025, 09:43:59 PM
The 1st leg game between Bayern and Leverkusen in the Champions League round of 16 has just ended.
I expected it to be an even game, given the most recent results of head to head games between those two, but it was a completely one sided show.
Leverkusen got demolished 3-0. An early goal by Kane set the tone, then another one by Musiala in the 54th and then a nail to the coffin for Leverkusen: a red card for Mukiele in the 62nd minute - after that, it was clear that Leverkusen wouldn't be able to do much and limited themselves to defense but with no luck, as they lost another one with Kane scoring from a penalty.

Looks like the Champions League dream is pretty much over for Leverkusen.

I don't understand Alonso's tactics starting a game where they need a goal without a striker. It's weird...
He benched Patrick Schick, Nathan Tella, and Victor Boniface against Bayern Munich, what does Alonso expect?
You have strikers, you don't use them. Leverkusen lost because of Xavi Alonso's tactics and not because Bayern were better...
So it's all over, Bayern München has qualified...
I really know the rational behind Alonso benching all his top strikers in a very important match looks like this that is even a knock out stage of the champions League I think Alonso is starting to lose confidence on his players and it will not be a good one for the team because it's going to definitely have consequences on the team, because playing a champions League match without a striker is something that is of concern but let see how the second leg will go i can't say that the match is over because the second leg is there for Alonso to show his tactics and see if he will turn around things for Leverkusen
Wake up from your dream mate, how do you expect Leverkusen to win Bayern 4-0 and qualify to the quarter finals. It's impossible because the match might end in a draw. We need to talk about realistic things that will play out. On paper and on  praticals , Bayern is better than Leverkusen this season. Bayern will definitely win Bundesliga. Leverkusen is out of the competition.
If you are a football follower you will know that nothing is impossible in football so don't write them off until the last minute of the second leg I have seen the impossible happen so let see how the second leg is going to be because let tell our self the truth I don't see one fantastic thing that bayern munich played that day the problem with Leverkusen was that there was no finisher in front of goal plus Leverkusen played the majority of the second half with a ten men due to the red card so 3:0 score line is something that is possible to overcome by any spirited team that is hungry to overturn the results of the first leg
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on March 07, 2025, 10:27:05 PM
In the opening game of the matchday 25, Mainz is comfortably winning 3-1 in an away match against Monchengladbach.
This win positions them in the 3rd place, 2 points above Eintracht Frankfurt.
Eintracht is playing Union Berlin at home tomorrow. They are x1.76 favourite but their performance in the league hasn't been that great lately. They've only won one time in their last 6 league games, but the last two were against Bayer and Bayern, so they didn't have it easy. They did pretty good in the Europa League last Thursday when they defeated Ajax 2-1 in Amsterdam.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 07, 2025, 11:03:56 PM
If you are a football follower you will know that nothing is impossible in football so don't write them off until the last minute of the second leg I have seen the impossible happen so let see how the second leg is going to be because let tell our self the truth I don't see one fantastic thing that bayern munich played that day the problem with Leverkusen was that there was no finisher in front of goal plus Leverkusen played the majority of the second half with a ten men due to the red card so 3:0 score line is something that is possible to overcome by any spirited team that is hungry to overturn the results of the first leg

For Xabi, It was his first-ever loss to Bayern and it came brutally.
After six failed attempts, Munich finally cracked Leverkusen’s defense.
Bayern didn’t just beat Leverkusen. They deleted them from reality.
Bayern not only won but also reaffirmed their dominance. Bayern showed their pedigree and experience!
This defeat also signaled a power shift, Kompany finally found a solution against Alonso’s Leverkusen.
So in the second leg, no miracle will happen. IMO
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on March 08, 2025, 01:17:56 PM
Sweet victory was finally obtained by Mainz at the opponent's headquarters with a final score of 3-1. That made them temporarily able to shift the position from Frankfurt.

They played well in this match, and actually Gladbach did not play badly, it's just that they were not strong enough to withstand every attack launched by Mainz so that 3 goals were scored into their goal.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on March 08, 2025, 05:51:13 PM
LOL, what a disastrous round. I can't even imagine how many coupons have been ruined.
Bayern loses to Bochum (16th in the league) at home.
Leverkusen loses to Werder at home.
Dortmund loses to Augsburg at home (OK, this one is the least surprising).

I guess Bayern's loss could be explained by the 42nd-minute red card, but still, seeing the leader of the table wasting two-goals advantage to the team from the bottom of the table is not a usual occurrence.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on March 08, 2025, 06:09:27 PM
LOL, what a disastrous round. I can't even imagine how many coupons have been ruined.
Bayern loses to Bochum (16th in the league) at home.
Leverkusen loses to Werder at home.
Dortmund loses to Augsburg at home (OK, this one is the least surprising).

I guess Bayern's loss could be explained by the 42nd-minute red card, but still, seeing the leader of the table wasting two-goals advantage to the team from the bottom of the table is not a usual occurrence.
Football is full of surprises, and you will start wondering what happened. I wouldn't say that the three clubs Bayern, Leverkusen and Dortmund olanned it but it was just a coincidence. Imagine assuming out of these three clubs was able to win their match, it would have been a good opportunity to close or widening the point gap. Their points remains stagnant which still gives Bayern a good advantage to win the title.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: salad daging on March 08, 2025, 07:44:16 PM
LOL, what a disastrous round. I can't even imagine how many coupons have been ruined.
Bayern loses to Bochum (16th in the league) at home.
Leverkusen loses to Werder at home.
Dortmund loses to Augsburg at home (OK, this one is the least surprising).

I guess Bayern's loss could be explained by the 42nd-minute red card, but still, seeing the leader of the table wasting two-goals advantage to the team from the bottom of the table is not a usual occurrence.
It's like they just happened to lose on the same day. hahaha
How many tickets were spoiled including those parlays in some matches?
I think many lost tickets today, even though we know Bayer - Leverkusen and Dortmund were predicted to win but the surprise came in this match.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on March 08, 2025, 11:39:44 PM
How many tickets were spoiled including those parlays in some matches?
I think many lost tickets today, even though we know Bayer - Leverkusen and Dortmund were predicted to win but the surprise came in this match.
Many sportsbooks will be excited because today they had the better of most gamblers.

Even if one gambler was able to predict the loss of one big team in the Bundesliga today, it would have been difficult for any gambler to particularly see that all three big teams in the Bundesliga will all lose their games today. Strange indeed!
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: UNIVERSE on March 08, 2025, 11:46:55 PM
Football is full of surprises, and you will start wondering what happened. I wouldn't say that the three clubs Bayern, Leverkusen and Dortmund olanned it but it was just a coincidence. Imagine assuming out of these three clubs was able to win their match, it would have been a good opportunity to close or widening the point gap. Their points remains stagnant which still gives Bayern a good advantage to win the title.
I agree football is sometimes full of surprise but it doesn't happen every time. Like the matches in Bundesliga in matchday 25, the top teams were defeated. It is actually surprising to see Bayern Munich, Leverkusen, and Dortmund got defeats together. This means there will be no addition for their points. But it is bad for Dortmund because they are now in the 10th place. If they won, they must be in 8th place now.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on March 09, 2025, 11:48:34 AM
Football is full of surprises, and you will start wondering what happened. I wouldn't say that the three clubs Bayern, Leverkusen and Dortmund olanned it but it was just a coincidence. Imagine assuming out of these three clubs was able to win their match, it would have been a good opportunity to close or widening the point gap. Their points remains stagnant which still gives Bayern a good advantage to win the title.
I agree football is sometimes full of surprise but it doesn't happen every time. Like the matches in Bundesliga in matchday 25, the top teams were defeated. It is actually surprising to see Bayern Munich, Leverkusen, and Dortmund got defeats together. This means there will be no addition for their points. But it is bad for Dortmund because they are now in the 10th place. If they won, they must be in 8th place now.
Surprises in football are something we will always see, big teams losing to small teams and so on are sights that we can witness in football. Especially when a match is spiced up with drama.

But that's all what makes football more interesting for us to follow. Especially when there is a derby match that brings together 2 big teams. This is why football is the most popular sport in the world.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 09, 2025, 07:25:09 PM
Football is full of surprises, and you will start wondering what happened. I wouldn't say that the three clubs Bayern, Leverkusen and Dortmund olanned it but it was just a coincidence. Imagine assuming out of these three clubs was able to win their match, it would have been a good opportunity to close or widening the point gap. Their points remains stagnant which still gives Bayern a good advantage to win the title.
I agree football is sometimes full of surprise but it doesn't happen every time. Like the matches in Bundesliga in matchday 25, the top teams were defeated. It is actually surprising to see Bayern Munich, Leverkusen, and Dortmund got defeats together. This means there will be no addition for their points. But it is bad for Dortmund because they are now in the 10th place. If they won, they must be in 8th place now.
Surprises in football are something we will always see, big teams losing to small teams and so on are sights that we can witness in football. Especially when a match is spiced up with drama.

But that's all what makes football more interesting for us to follow. Especially when there is a derby match that brings together 2 big teams. This is why football is the most popular sport in the world.
Surprises is what makes football unique and interesting because it offers the smaller teams to give a good account of them self by trying to proof that every team has an equal chances of winning , this weekend was full of surprises in the German bundesliga title as both Leverkusen and bayern munich all lost their respective games to their opponents but Leverkusen will be the once to have them the self to be blamed for because in a week where Bayarn Munich lost they too lost they would have at least get a slime victory and close in on the game
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on March 09, 2025, 07:55:50 PM
Surprises in football are something we will always see, big teams losing to small teams and so on are sights that we can witness in football. Especially when a match is spiced up with drama.

But that's all what makes football more interesting for us to follow. Especially when there is a derby match that brings together 2 big teams. This is why football is the most popular sport in the world.
Can't believing with this game week Bundesliga match after top teams defeated by mediocre or small teams, Bayern Munich as the top standings team defeated by the bottom position teams Bochum after crucial come back and Bochum won 2-3. Its not problem with away match and Bochum have more confidence for defeating top standings Bundesliga teams although have conceded two goals early.
Bayern got advantage although defeated in this games week match because the rival team Bayern Leverkusen have got losses defeated by Werder Bremen, now both teams have 8 points remaining with 9 matches left and seems Bayern have bigger chance for winning domestic league this season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 10, 2025, 08:18:58 PM
Surprises in football are something we will always see, big teams losing to small teams and so on are sights that we can witness in football. Especially when a match is spiced up with drama.

But that's all what makes football more interesting for us to follow. Especially when there is a derby match that brings together 2 big teams. This is why football is the most popular sport in the world.
Can't believing with this game week Bundesliga match after top teams defeated by mediocre or small teams, Bayern Munich as the top standings team defeated by the bottom position teams Bochum after crucial come back and Bochum won 2-3. Its not problem with away match and Bochum have more confidence for defeating top standings Bundesliga teams although have conceded two goals early.
Bayern got advantage although defeated in this games week match because the rival team Bayern Leverkusen have got losses defeated by Werder Bremen, now both teams have 8 points remaining with 9 matches left and seems Bayern have bigger chance for winning domestic league this season.
The league has gotten to a point where bottom placed teams are no longer showing respect for top teams because the battle to escape relegation has started it's literally like looking for a black goat in the day time because after now it will be difficult for bottom placed teams to get results and it will lead to their relegation, but as for Bayarn Munich I was not particularly surprised about this result because bayern munich has just been lucky for the last ten games that they have won because they have not been convincing with their performance Bayarn Munich has to improve on their performance going forward
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 10, 2025, 09:14:28 PM
Surprises in football are something we will always see, big teams losing to small teams and so on are sights that we can witness in football. Especially when a match is spiced up with drama.

But that's all what makes football more interesting for us to follow. Especially when there is a derby match that brings together 2 big teams. This is why football is the most popular sport in the world.
Can't believing with this game week Bundesliga match after top teams defeated by mediocre or small teams, Bayern Munich as the top standings team defeated by the bottom position teams Bochum after crucial come back and Bochum won 2-3. Its not problem with away match and Bochum have more confidence for defeating top standings Bundesliga teams although have conceded two goals early.
Bayern got advantage although defeated in this games week match because the rival team Bayern Leverkusen have got losses defeated by Werder Bremen, now both teams have 8 points remaining with 9 matches left and seems Bayern have bigger chance for winning domestic league this season.

It seems like this is a sign that this is Bayern's season, there is a lot of luck on their side.
When they are bad and slipping, their closest rivals are making the same mistakes. lol
It's only 10 Games left while the only big Teams Bayern has to Play are Dortmund and Leipzig.
And it seems like Harry Kane will be laughing his ass off at the end of the season because his curse is over. :)
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on March 11, 2025, 11:17:45 PM
Bayern humiliated Leverkusen again in the Champions League round of 16 2nd leg game. The first time around, they won at home 3-0, tonight Leverkusen got defeated 0-2 in front of their home crowd. This is clearly not the same Leverkusen we saw last season.

Bayern is through to the Champions League quarter-finals and will play Inter at home on 8th of April. The odds are not yet known, but I think Bayern should be a slight favourite to qualify to the semi-finals, despite Inter having a decent season and leading the Serie A table.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 12, 2025, 03:59:09 PM
Bayern humiliated Leverkusen again in the Champions League round of 16 2nd leg game. The first time around, they won at home 3-0, tonight Leverkusen got defeated 0-2 in front of their home crowd. This is clearly not the same Leverkusen we saw last season.

Bayern is through to the Champions League quarter-finals and will play Inter at home on 8th of April. The odds are not yet known, but I think Bayern should be a slight favourite to qualify to the semi-finals, despite Inter having a decent season and leading the Serie A table.

Honestly, this doesn't surprise me... Bayern will easily reach the quarter-finals against Leverkusen. Bayern is finally back...
Congratulations on two great matches and qualifications.

A classic, Inter Milan against FC Bayern.
It's impossible to know much about history, but the first leg at home will be very favorable for Bayern
A great match that I hope Bayern can win.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on March 12, 2025, 11:40:43 PM
OK, so we have two German teams advancing to Champions League quarterfinals: Bayern and Borussia Dortmund.
Bayern are playing the 1st leg at home against Inter and are a 1.70 favourite to win. Dortmund has a tougher challenge, they are facing Barcelona in an away game and are x7.00 underdog. The full set of odds is not yet released but I think Borussia could be the biggest underdog. To their credit, even if they get eliminated by Barcelona, reaching the quarterfinals stage is still a big success, especially knowing how poorly they've been performing in the Bundesliga. But who knows, they reached the final last year, so maybe they could pull out a similar surprise again this season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on March 13, 2025, 01:54:51 PM
OK, so we have two German teams advancing to Champions League quarterfinals: Bayern and Borussia Dortmund.
Bayern are playing the 1st leg at home against Inter and are a 1.70 favourite to win. Dortmund has a tougher challenge, they are facing Barcelona in an away game and are x7.00 underdog. The full set of odds is not yet released but I think Borussia could be the biggest underdog. To their credit, even if they get eliminated by Barcelona, reaching the quarterfinals stage is still a big success, especially knowing how poorly they've been performing in the Bundesliga. But who knows, they reached the final last year, so maybe they could pull out a similar surprise again this season.
Bayern Munich can qualify easily, they won 5-0 in 2 matches, while Borussia Dormund they have to work harder, but the results are very satisfying by being able to advance to the next round.

In the next round it will be even more difficult, because it is certain that they will face much more difficult opponents because these are the 8 best teams that have successfully advanced.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 13, 2025, 06:16:57 PM

In the next round it will be even more difficult, because it is certain that they will face much more difficult opponents because these are the 8 best teams that have successfully advanced.

Agree. Bayern vs Inter is a rematch of the 2010 final, which Inter won 2-0.
Bayern vs. Inter in 2010, still gives me chills. At that time, the Nerazzurri established themselves as the Italian team capable of achieving the treble winner.
And for those who say Bayern will win easily is too underestimate Inter, Inter are not Leverkusen, they are more formidable and know when to show up against the big teams. Don't write them off.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 13, 2025, 06:29:29 PM

In the next round it will be even more difficult, because it is certain that they will face much more difficult opponents because these are the 8 best teams that have successfully advanced.

Agree. Bayern vs Inter is a rematch of the 2010 final, which Inter won 2-0.
Bayern vs. Inter in 2010, still gives me chills. At that time, the Nerazzurri established themselves as the Italian team capable of achieving the treble winner.
And for those who say Bayern will win easily is too underestimate Inter, Inter are not Leverkusen, they are more formidable and know when to show up against the big teams. Don't write them off.
This match is open so no team should be underrated because looking at the form of these two teams I will say that it's  50/50 for the two teams because looking at the performance of the two teams inter Milan is even more consistent than bayern munich in their performance so far, so if Bayarn Munich is to make it to the last four then they have to be fantastic because inter Milan has shown class in both the champions League and the seria A this season. Let wait to see who is going to get the win over this one because both teams are in fine form this season, but bayern munich has not been convincing this season in the champions League
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 13, 2025, 07:08:01 PM

In the next round it will be even more difficult, because it is certain that they will face much more difficult opponents because these are the 8 best teams that have successfully advanced.

Agree. Bayern vs Inter is a rematch of the 2010 final, which Inter won 2-0.
Bayern vs. Inter in 2010, still gives me chills. At that time, the Nerazzurri established themselves as the Italian team capable of achieving the treble winner.
And for those who say Bayern will win easily is too underestimate Inter, Inter are not Leverkusen, they are more formidable and know when to show up against the big teams. Don't write them off.
This match is open so no team should be underrated because looking at the form of these two teams I will say that it's  50/50 for the two teams because looking at the performance of the two teams inter Milan is even more consistent than bayern munich in their performance so far, so if Bayarn Munich is to make it to the last four then they have to be fantastic because inter Milan has shown class in both the champions League and the seria A this season. Let wait to see who is going to get the win over this one because both teams are in fine form this season, but bayern munich has not been convincing this season in the champions League

Yep. But since that dismal performance against the Celtics, Bayern's season has transformed, and the players have more confidence and a better understanding of Kompany's styles than they did at the start of the season.
On the other hand, Inter has a more impressive catalog.
Inter has never conceded in open play in the UCL and Inzaghi is more experienced, we know how well Inzaghi prepares his teams.
So, 50/50 is fair enough :)
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 13, 2025, 07:19:42 PM
Snips
You're right but I can't say that after bayern munich dismal performance against Celtic in the champions League playoffs that they have really improved in their performance I don't think so these Leverkusen was more like a toothless dog that they came against in the just concluded round of sixteen that was why they where able to win them home and away Leverkusen practically played the two legs without a top striker so coming up against a team that is more compact and feet like inter Milan is something that they need to take seriously about because this game is not just any other game that they have been playing before, bayern munich has to approach this game with a different form and performance if they are to make it to the next round
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 13, 2025, 08:50:43 PM

Yep. But since that dismal performance against the Celtics, Bayern's season has transformed, and the players have more confidence and a better understanding of Kompany's styles than they did at the start of the season.

In this you are completely right, on a personal level I have seen that Bayern have had an incredible season, from what I can see in the UCL is that they are very determined, they have achieved their objectives, it is clear that they are almost won in the Budapest Liga, we have to see if they can reach the final stages of the UCL, for now I think that Leverkusen will not be able to catch Bayern this season, and that is something that I find incredible because last season wow they were a machine, next time not, what could have happened to Xabi's team? We do not know, but I think the level of football of the clubs is rising at a very accelerated level.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on March 14, 2025, 02:19:46 PM

In the next round it will be even more difficult, because it is certain that they will face much more difficult opponents because these are the 8 best teams that have successfully advanced.

Agree. Bayern vs Inter is a rematch of the 2010 final, which Inter won 2-0.
Bayern vs. Inter in 2010, still gives me chills. At that time, the Nerazzurri established themselves as the Italian team capable of achieving the treble winner.
And for those who say Bayern will win easily is too underestimate Inter, Inter are not Leverkusen, they are more formidable and know when to show up against the big teams. Don't write them off.
However, Inter Milan is one of the big teams that is now slowly starting to find their best touch, last season they also managed to win the scudetto title.

This is not an easy opponent for Bayern Munich and so is not an easy match for Inter Milan. The chances of both look the same, now we just see who has the best mentality.
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Post by: koang on March 14, 2025, 08:46:30 PM

This is not an easy opponent for Bayern Munich and so is not an easy match for Inter Milan. The chances of both look the same, now we just see who has the best mentality.

Agreed. But the fact is, Inter are not the favorites against Bayern.
Bayern has better individual quality than Inter, especially in attack. And we know Inter's track record against top teams this season, something is missing.
Inter always has difficulties against the “quite good” dribblers such as Leao and Concenciao because of their unpredictability, it breaks their system. I can’t imagine what an elite dribbler like Musiala can do to them.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 14, 2025, 08:50:46 PM

In the next round it will be even more difficult, because it is certain that they will face much more difficult opponents because these are the 8 best teams that have successfully advanced.

Agree. Bayern vs Inter is a rematch of the 2010 final, which Inter won 2-0.
Bayern vs. Inter in 2010, still gives me chills. At that time, the Nerazzurri established themselves as the Italian team capable of achieving the treble winner.
And for those who say Bayern will win easily is too underestimate Inter, Inter are not Leverkusen, they are more formidable and know when to show up against the big teams. Don't write them off.
However, Inter Milan is one of the big teams that is now slowly starting to find their best touch, last season they also managed to win the scudetto title.

This is not an easy opponent for Bayern Munich and so is not an easy match for Inter Milan. The chances of both look the same, now we just see who has the best mentality.
Both teams have equal chances of winning this game and advancing to the next round of matches inter Milan has been been in fine form thesame thing with Bayarn Munich I hope bayern munich can show up a great performance against inter Milan and not the kind of performance that they had against Celtic, any team that created more chances and initialize them in front of goal will be better team to make it to the next round of matches
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on March 15, 2025, 12:13:21 AM
9 rounds to go but everything is pretty much decided in terms of the 1st and 2nd place.
Leverkusen's chances are only theoretical. They waved goodbye to the prospect of defending the championship a month ago, when they failed to beat Bayern at home (the game ended with a 0-0 draw).
Bayern earns on average 2.44 points per league game, so if their performance is consistent till the end of the season, they're expected to finish with 82-83 points. Even if Leverkusen has 9 straight wins, that would give them 80 points, so they would still fall short. And, needless to say, 9 consecutive wins are highly improbable.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on March 15, 2025, 05:38:16 PM
However, Inter Milan is one of the big teams that is now slowly starting to find their best touch, last season they also managed to win the scudetto title.

This is not an easy opponent for Bayern Munich and so is not an easy match for Inter Milan. The chances of both look the same, now we just see who has the best mentality.
Both teams have equal chances of winning this game and advancing to the next round of matches inter Milan has been been in fine form thesame thing with Bayarn Munich I hope bayern munich can show up a great performance against inter Milan and not the kind of performance that they had against Celtic, any team that created more chances and initialize them in front of goal will be better team to make it to the next round of matches
Well, the effectiveness in attacking will be very decisive in this match, because indeed the smallest opportunity must be able to be utilized as best as possible.

It is not uncommon for the winning team to be the team that creates minimal opportunities, but they can utilize them very well when they do create opportunities. Let's see who is more effective in this match.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 15, 2025, 09:50:56 PM
(https://i.ibb.co.com/ycd2yYWD/Dortmund.png)

Despite many good chances in the second half, Dortmund lost 2-0 in Leipzig, but I don't know what was worse, the first half or the way Dortmund took their chances in the second half. It's crazy that Dortmund players only learn to play football when they're 2-0 down. And let's not talk about taking chances. It was an absolute disaster.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 15, 2025, 10:26:09 PM
(https://i.ibb.co.com/ycd2yYWD/Dortmund.png)

Despite many good chances in the second half, Dortmund lost 2-0 in Leipzig, but I don't know what was worse, the first half or the way Dortmund took their chances in the second half. It's crazy that Dortmund players only learn to play football when they're 2-0 down. And let's not talk about taking chances. It was an absolute disaster.
Leipzig playing at home is one team that is tough playing against but with the way that Dortmund played in the champions League against Lille I expected them to show a level  competition against Leipzig even though they played well Leipzig showed class in the game by having a total control of the game nice win for Leipzig they got this good victory against Dortmund.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Rruchi man on March 15, 2025, 11:16:54 PM
Bayern has better individual quality than Inter, especially in attack. And we know Inter's track record against top teams this season, something is missing.
The attacking and options that Bayern have make them a very team to bet on in most games, as if the attackers that start cannot perform, Vincent Kompany has the option of other players to bring in. Inter Milan in the Champions League will need to find a way to deal with Bayern's attack.

Notice in their game against Union Berlin, they could not get goals, and the coach made changes that brought the goal. This is what Bayern bring: quality on and off the pitch, players on and players on the bench.
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Post by: debra on March 15, 2025, 11:39:46 PM
Leipzig playing at home is one team that is tough playing against but with the way that Dortmund played in the champions League against Lille I expected them to show a level  competition against Leipzig even though they played well Leipzig showed class in the game by having a total control of the game nice win for Leipzig they got this good victory against Dortmund.
Leipzig played with a more effective tactic. Meanwhile Dortmund only dominated the match but they scored no goals. There is a problem with Dortmund attacking line in this season. They look like not strong enough, it is quite different from the previous seasons. Anyway, this bad result makes Dortmund to stay in 11th place. It is totally bad result if they end up out of the 10 this season.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on March 16, 2025, 01:36:01 PM
Leipzig played with a more effective tactic. Meanwhile Dortmund only dominated the match but they scored no goals. There is a problem with Dortmund attacking line in this season. They look like not strong enough, it is quite different from the previous seasons. Anyway, this bad result makes Dortmund to stay in 11th place. It is totally bad result if they end up out of the 10 this season.

Yup, It was not a bad game by Dortmund. They did (almost) everything right, they controlled the game with almost 70% possession and created more scoring chances (25 shots on goal and 9 on target are very decent numbers). But they were lacking in the only statistic that counts: goals.
It's a shame because, despite being positioned in the middle of the table, they still weren't too far behind the top 4 (Champions League zone).
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 16, 2025, 02:04:43 PM
Leipzig playing at home is one team that is tough playing against but with the way that Dortmund played in the champions League against Lille I expected them to show a level  competition against Leipzig even though they played well Leipzig showed class in the game by having a total control of the game nice win for Leipzig they got this good victory against Dortmund.
Leipzig played with a more effective tactic. Meanwhile Dortmund only dominated the match but they scored no goals. There is a problem with Dortmund attacking line in this season. They look like not strong enough, it is quite different from the previous seasons. Anyway, this bad result makes Dortmund to stay in 11th place. It is totally bad result if they end up out of the 10 this season.

Lost 0-2 and Sabitzer left the match vs. Leipzig with an injury.
If Bremen wins their next game and Dortmund messes up against Mainz, they will be in 12th place. lol
I will enjoy the game against Barcelona, ​​it will be the last Champions League game for a long time.
This season is the worst for Dortmund fans. Goodbye Champions League 2026...
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on March 16, 2025, 03:08:52 PM
Leipzig played with a more effective tactic. Meanwhile Dortmund only dominated the match but they scored no goals. There is a problem with Dortmund attacking line in this season. They look like not strong enough, it is quite different from the previous seasons. Anyway, this bad result makes Dortmund to stay in 11th place. It is totally bad result if they end up out of the 10 this season.

Yup, It was not a bad game by Dortmund. They did (almost) everything right, they controlled the game with almost 70% possession and created more scoring chances (25 shots on goal and 9 on target are very decent numbers). But they were lacking in the only statistic that counts: goals.
It's a shame because, despite being positioned in the middle of the table, they still weren't too far behind the top 4 (Champions League zone).
Dominating the game and creating many chances is not enough for a team, because it means nothing if they can't score goals, and that's what happened to Borussia Dortmund in this match. They did create many chances and dominated the game, but they couldn't score a single goal which made them lose in the end to Leipzig.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 16, 2025, 04:12:12 PM
Leipzig played with a more effective tactic. Meanwhile Dortmund only dominated the match but they scored no goals. There is a problem with Dortmund attacking line in this season. They look like not strong enough, it is quite different from the previous seasons. Anyway, this bad result makes Dortmund to stay in 11th place. It is totally bad result if they end up out of the 10 this season.

Yup, It was not a bad game by Dortmund. They did (almost) everything right, they controlled the game with almost 70% possession and created more scoring chances (25 shots on goal and 9 on target are very decent numbers). But they were lacking in the only statistic that counts: goals.
It's a shame because, despite being positioned in the middle of the table, they still weren't too far behind the top 4 (Champions League zone).
Dominating the game and creating many chances is not enough for a team, because it means nothing if they can't score goals, and that's what happened to Borussia Dortmund in this match. They did create many chances and dominated the game, but they couldn't score a single goal which made them lose in the end to Leipzig.
The ultimate goal of football is about scoring goals so you can't have a total domination of a game with out scoring any team that can't score goals can't win games Dortmund was impressive in a good half of the game but they failed to score and the opposing team made good use of the opportunities that came their way and they got all three points, moving forward Dortmund should be more clinical in front of goals because they are playing in the champions League last eight which will be demanding for them because they are going to be meeting a better teams than the once they have been playing in the bundesliga
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on March 16, 2025, 05:51:18 PM
Dominating the game and creating many chances is not enough for a team, because it means nothing if they can't score goals, and that's what happened to Borussia Dortmund in this match. They did create many chances and dominated the game, but they couldn't score a single goal which made them lose in the end to Leipzig.
The ultimate goal of football is about scoring goals so you can't have a total domination of a game with out scoring any team that can't score goals can't win games Dortmund was impressive in a good half of the game but they failed to score and the opposing team made good use of the opportunities that came their way and they got all three points, moving forward Dortmund should be more clinical in front of goals because they are playing in the champions League last eight which will be demanding for them because they are going to be meeting a better teams than the once they have been playing in the bundesliga
Borussia Dortmund is not the team I saw before, I mean they used to be in 2nd place to give competition to Bayern Munich, but this season they are struggling and keep losing.

This is also because they themselves sold many of their valuable players in the past because they wanted to get profit, now they have to accept the consequences.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Harkorede on March 16, 2025, 09:26:45 PM
Borussia Dortmund is not the team I saw before, I mean they used to be in 2nd place to give competition to Bayern Munich, but this season they are struggling and keep losing.

This is also because they themselves sold many of their valuable players in the past because they wanted to get profit, now they have to accept the consequences.

A lot of the supposed big teams in the Bundesliga are actually struggling a lot right now, especially Dortmund, they’re having a nightmare season to say the least. They’re currently 11th the Bundesliga league standings, and poor form doesn’t seem to be ending.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on March 16, 2025, 09:55:35 PM
Dominating the game and creating many chances is not enough for a team, because it means nothing if they can't score goals, and that's what happened to Borussia Dortmund in this match. They did create many chances and dominated the game, but they couldn't score a single goal which made them lose in the end to Leipzig.
The ultimate goal of football is about scoring goals so you can't have a total domination of a game with out scoring any team that can't score goals can't win games Dortmund was impressive in a good half of the game but they failed to score and the opposing team made good use of the opportunities that came their way and they got all three points, moving forward Dortmund should be more clinical in front of goals because they are playing in the champions League last eight which will be demanding for them because they are going to be meeting a better teams than the once they have been playing in the bundesliga
Borussia Dortmund is not the team I saw before, I mean they used to be in 2nd place to give competition to Bayern Munich, but this season they are struggling and keep losing.

This is also because they themselves sold many of their valuable players in the past because they wanted to get profit, now they have to accept the consequences.
To maintain a team at the highest level of the competition without a right approach of constructing a team is not easy. If ever many important players are let go off without and equivalent substitute in the team, then it is obvious that the quality of the game is going to be compromised. This is also largely due to the fact that the club also experiences the elevation of their opponents who seem to be improving each season. At one time or the other they would always be among the teams that would be contending for the premier position but today, they have come to realized that the balance of force is not on their side any longer. Nevertheless, a club as large as Dortmund holds the threat and can get back together if they are able to search for the proper means to reconsider the existing conditions.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 17, 2025, 08:22:05 PM
The match between Stuttgart and Leverkusen was a goal feast, and though that game was a rollercoaster it was a fun ride nonetheless.
Leverkusen came away with a dramatic 3-4 victory. Stuttgart initially took a 3-1 lead but Leverkusen showed great resilience. The team played very well. However, Stuttgart's performance was also good in this match.
This match also proved that Leverkusen never gave up fighting to win the title.
The gap between Bayern and Leverkusen is 6 points, and there are only 8 games left to play. This will decide who wins the title.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on March 18, 2025, 11:59:54 PM
Great game in Stuttgart. & goals including two own goals doesn't happen very often. Leverkusen did what they were famous for last season: turning things around in the last minutes.
Potentially important win that makes things a little bit more interesting. Leverkusen is now 6 points behind Bayern, which is still a lot, but Bayern unexpectedly lost points in their last 2 league games against weak clubs, which could be an indication of some small crisis in the team (although their great Champions League performance doesn't fit this theory).
Anyhow, nothing is yet decided and Leverkusen still have a chance to do what they have never done in history and win the league twice in a row.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on March 19, 2025, 11:56:04 AM
The match between Stuttgart and Leverkusen was a goal feast, and though that game was a rollercoaster it was a fun ride nonetheless.
Leverkusen came away with a dramatic 3-4 victory. Stuttgart initially took a 3-1 lead but Leverkusen showed great resilience. The team played very well. However, Stuttgart's performance was also good in this match.
This match also proved that Leverkusen never gave up fighting to win the title.
The gap between Bayern and Leverkusen is 6 points, and there are only 8 games left to play. This will decide who wins the title.
This match demonstrated exactly that, football is most interesting when two teams are willing to push themselves to the limit with never surrender attitude. Each and every athlete applied their best effort, thus making this match one of the most special to have been witnessed. Actually, it is not the victory and defeat issue but the struggle that the teams demonstrate up to the final minutes which should be appreciated. Intense competition was further upheld by the players and the coaching staff as evident in the event. This clearly proves that one has to work through the most difficult of circumstances and one should remain determined. The victor over the next opponent will be waiting as the game has become exciting and in every subsequent battle, teams will also have to try to get to the top of the table.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on March 19, 2025, 01:58:20 PM
With the remaining games, Bochum still has a chance to be in the safe zone. However, it will be difficult for them to do so, because they still have to win the game if they want to go to safety, and that requires a defeat from the team above them.

They need luck to be in the safe zone, and we will see if they will be lucky enough or not.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on March 19, 2025, 03:38:47 PM
With the remaining games, Bochum still has a chance to be in the safe zone. However, it will be difficult for them to do so, because they still have to win the game if they want to go to safety, and that requires a defeat from the team above them.

They need luck to be in the safe zone, and we will see if they will be lucky enough or not.
At a pressure, it remains possible for them to pin their hopes on achieving the results they desire as long as they do not lose hope. Therefore, every game is a chance to come closer to the goal with high dedication and huge spirit. Each of the steps can be described as filled with difficulties however each of the steps can lead the team closer to the safe zone. Thus, having the utmost optimization of every chance possible and pushing forward to the fight, I believe that there is always a shot in the dark that can be pulled. They will succeed if only they persevere more and do not quit early.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on March 19, 2025, 11:26:29 PM
With 8 games to go, the potentially toughest games where Bayern could lose points are:
Dortmund (home) - they're doing pretty bad in the league but can still be dangerous if they show up motivated for their biggest rivals.
Mainz (home) - Mains is currently ranked 3rd.
Leipzig (away) - Leipzig is 5th, they have some dip in performance but showed some signs of improvement in their recent win against Dortmund.

Unless something goes really wrong with the team, I don't see Bayern losing 6 points till the end of the season. If they keep their performance on a consistent level, statistically they're expected to lose 4.94 points before the season comes to an end. And even if Bayern trips, Leverkusen winning all the remaining 8 games is highly unlikely. But, nonetheless, they should keep trying.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on March 20, 2025, 01:14:50 PM
With the remaining games, Bochum still has a chance to be in the safe zone. However, it will be difficult for them to do so, because they still have to win the game if they want to go to safety, and that requires a defeat from the team above them.

They need luck to be in the safe zone, and we will see if they will be lucky enough or not.
At a pressure, it remains possible for them to pin their hopes on achieving the results they desire as long as they do not lose hope. Therefore, every game is a chance to come closer to the goal with high dedication and huge spirit. Each of the steps can be described as filled with difficulties however each of the steps can lead the team closer to the safe zone. Thus, having the utmost optimization of every chance possible and pushing forward to the fight, I believe that there is always a shot in the dark that can be pulled. They will succeed if only they persevere more and do not quit early.
They have to focus in every match, because victory is something they must get, yes even though in reality it will definitely be very difficult to get it all.

Not giving up, that's the point, because if they give up, then don't expect them to be able to get something good in the match they play. In other words, they must have a mentality of believing that they will be able to achieve something they want.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 20, 2025, 07:33:45 PM
With 8 games to go, the potentially toughest games where Bayern could lose points are:
Dortmund (home) - they're doing pretty bad in the league but can still be dangerous if they show up motivated for their biggest rivals.
Mainz (home) - Mains is currently ranked 3rd.
Leipzig (away) - Leipzig is 5th, they have some dip in performance but showed some signs of improvement in their recent win against Dortmund.

Unless something goes really wrong with the team, I don't see Bayern losing 6 points till the end of the season. If they keep their performance on a consistent level, statistically they're expected to lose 4.94 points before the season comes to an end. And even if Bayern trips, Leverkusen winning all the remaining 8 games is highly unlikely. But, nonetheless, they should keep trying.
With the remaining matches that bayern munich is going to play next sm particularly afraid because in the next three games it's not going to be easy for bayern munich because coming up against their bitter rivals Dortmund in the league is something that is not going to be an easy one for bayern, the games that are lined up for bayern munich is are games that are tough because Mainz and Leipzig by current form are not teams that bayern munich can easily win  so in the next three games Leverkusen should be in their best and not drop any point because i see bayern dropping points in the Next three matches in the bundesliga table
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on March 21, 2025, 06:32:18 PM
Last season, the Bundesliga was lucky to get an additional slot because they managed to become a league that met the criteria to get an additional slot to play in the Champions League, that's what ultimately made Borussia Dortmund successful even though they were in 5th position.

This season I don't know if they will get the same thing again or not, but what is clear is that the top 4 must be secured if they want to go to the Champions League.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 21, 2025, 07:43:07 PM
Last season, the Bundesliga was lucky to get an additional slot because they managed to become a league that met the criteria to get an additional slot to play in the Champions League, that's what ultimately made Borussia Dortmund successful even though they were in 5th position.

This season I don't know if they will get the same thing again or not, but what is clear is that the top 4 must be secured if they want to go to the Champions League.
That will depend on the performance of the remaining teams that is from the bundesliga bayern munich and and Borrisia Dortmund in the champions League if they perform well and go far in the competition they will likely maintain their position but they get eliminated all in the next stage of the competition they will likely come lose that sport that they will have that usually plays the play off to go through to the champions league
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on March 21, 2025, 07:53:57 PM
With 8 games to go, the potentially toughest games where Bayern could lose points are:
Dortmund (home) - they're doing pretty bad in the league but can still be dangerous if they show up motivated for their biggest rivals.
Mainz (home) - Mains is currently ranked 3rd.
Leipzig (away) - Leipzig is 5th, they have some dip in performance but showed some signs of improvement in their recent win against Dortmund.

Unless something goes really wrong with the team, I don't see Bayern losing 6 points till the end of the season. If they keep their performance on a consistent level, statistically they're expected to lose 4.94 points before the season comes to an end. And even if Bayern trips, Leverkusen winning all the remaining 8 games is highly unlikely. But, nonetheless, they should keep trying.
With the remaining matches that bayern munich is going to play next sm particularly afraid because in the next three games it's not going to be easy for bayern munich because coming up against their bitter rivals Dortmund in the league is something that is not going to be an easy one for bayern, the games that are lined up for bayern munich is are games that are tough because Mainz and Leipzig by current form are not teams that bayern munich can easily win  so in the next three games Leverkusen should be in their best and not drop any point because i see bayern dropping points in the Next three matches in the bundesliga table
Dortmund is a tough team for Bayern but I believe that Bayeen will be able to achieve al three points in that match. Bayern winning the league is not that certain and for that reason, I believe that they will take the rest of their matches serious to avoid any threat from Leverkusen.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 21, 2025, 09:14:41 PM
Last season, the Bundesliga was lucky to get an additional slot because they managed to become a league that met the criteria to get an additional slot to play in the Champions League, that's what ultimately made Borussia Dortmund successful even though they were in 5th position.

This season I don't know if they will get the same thing again or not, but what is clear is that the top 4 must be secured if they want to go to the Champions League.

The Bundesliga is out of the race for an extra UCL spot next season.
The Premier League still leads the UEFA coefficient rankings with 22.178 points, despite Man City and Liverpool exiting the UCL.
Arsenal and Aston Villa advancing move England closer to confirming the 5th spot.
That spot could be confirmed based on the games involving Man United, Spurs, and Chelsea and the outcomes of the matches involving the Spanish and Italian teams.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on March 22, 2025, 12:13:05 AM
The Bundesliga is out of the race for an extra UCL spot next season.
The Premier League still leads the UEFA coefficient rankings with 22.178 points, despite Man City and Liverpool exiting the UCL.
Arsenal and Aston Villa advancing move England closer to confirming the 5th spot.
That spot could be confirmed based on the games involving Man United, Spurs, and Chelsea and the outcomes of the matches involving the Spanish and Italian teams.

Thanks for the info.
For interested, the coefficient ranking is available here:
https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/country/?year=2025

I think English Premier League deserves the extra spot the most. Even though Liverpool and Man City failed and already dropped out, they still have 5 teams participating in European cups.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on March 22, 2025, 01:41:15 PM
Last season, the Bundesliga was lucky to get an additional slot because they managed to become a league that met the criteria to get an additional slot to play in the Champions League, that's what ultimately made Borussia Dortmund successful even though they were in 5th position.

This season I don't know if they will get the same thing again or not, but what is clear is that the top 4 must be secured if they want to go to the Champions League.

The Bundesliga is out of the race for an extra UCL spot next season.
The Premier League still leads the UEFA coefficient rankings with 22.178 points, despite Man City and Liverpool exiting the UCL.
Arsenal and Aston Villa advancing move England closer to confirming the 5th spot.
That spot could be confirmed based on the games involving Man United, Spurs, and Chelsea and the outcomes of the matches involving the Spanish and Italian teams.
Well, let's just wait and see if there will be any significant changes that can change the position in the league standings that are entitled to additional slots or not.

Indirectly, teams that perform well also bring benefits to their league, because it can help their league get additional slots. However, having many representatives is also not a guarantee that they will be able to represent their league to become champions in the Champions League.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 22, 2025, 07:55:31 PM

Indirectly, teams that perform well also bring benefits to their league, because it can help their league get additional slots. However, having many representatives is also not a guarantee that they will be able to represent their league to become champions in the Champions League.

It's basically a competition to determine which associations have clubs worthy of one extra slot and England has a very very chance of getting that spot, almost inevitably.
Yeah, an extra spot is not guaranteed you'll be the champion and what is the point of qualifying for a tournament unless you are capable
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on March 23, 2025, 12:58:48 PM

Indirectly, teams that perform well also bring benefits to their league, because it can help their league get additional slots. However, having many representatives is also not a guarantee that they will be able to represent their league to become champions in the Champions League.

It's basically a competition to determine which associations have clubs worthy of one extra slot and England has a very very chance of getting that spot, almost inevitably.
Yeah, an extra spot is not guaranteed you'll be the champion and what is the point of qualifying for a tournament unless you are capable
But I'm still curious why the system is like this, why not divide it equally? I mean the additional slots from the changed format why not taken from leagues that don't get many slots.

For example, like Ligue 1 which initially only had 2 direct representatives, now they have 3 slots for their teams to go to the Champions League competition. Yes, maybe the league ranking also has an effect, but I'm still quite curious.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 23, 2025, 08:06:47 PM

Indirectly, teams that perform well also bring benefits to their league, because it can help their league get additional slots. However, having many representatives is also not a guarantee that they will be able to represent their league to become champions in the Champions League.

It's basically a competition to determine which associations have clubs worthy of one extra slot and England has a very very chance of getting that spot, almost inevitably.
Yeah, an extra spot is not guaranteed you'll be the champion and what is the point of qualifying for a tournament unless you are capable
But I'm still curious why the system is like this, why not divide it equally? I mean the additional slots from the changed format why not taken from leagues that don't get many slots.

For example, like Ligue 1 which initially only had 2 direct representatives, now they have 3 slots for their teams to go to the Champions League competition. Yes, maybe the league ranking also has an effect, but I'm still quite curious.
The number of teams from each league that qualifies for the champions League is based on the performance of the teams from each league the further you go in the champions League the more teams that will qualify from that league, so talking about the French ligue 1 they can't get more teams because they have not really done well in the champions League so they can't get more teams to qualify for the champions League thesame thing is applicable to other smaller leagues if they do well by going far in the competition they will get more slot in the champions League
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 24, 2025, 06:07:42 PM

Indirectly, teams that perform well also bring benefits to their league, because it can help their league get additional slots. However, having many representatives is also not a guarantee that they will be able to represent their league to become champions in the Champions League.

It's basically a competition to determine which associations have clubs worthy of one extra slot and England has a very very chance of getting that spot, almost inevitably.
Yeah, an extra spot is not guaranteed you'll be the champion and what is the point of qualifying for a tournament unless you are capable
But I'm still curious why the system is like this, why not divide it equally? I mean the additional slots from the changed format why not taken from leagues that don't get many slots.

For example, like Ligue 1 which initially only had 2 direct representatives, now they have 3 slots for their teams to go to the Champions League competition. Yes, maybe the league ranking also has an effect, but I'm still quite curious.

It would not be called the Champions League if the participants were second-class, right :)
European Performance Spot (EPS) EPS is the coefficient value of a league in UEFA's calculations. The better the performance of the league's representatives in European competitions, the greater the chance of the league being the best in EPS.
So the goal of all this is to improve the quality of the competition and increase competition between clubs.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on March 24, 2025, 07:15:31 PM
But I'm still curious why the system is like this, why not divide it equally? I mean the additional slots from the changed format why not taken from leagues that don't get many slots.

For example, like Ligue 1 which initially only had 2 direct representatives, now they have 3 slots for their teams to go to the Champions League competition. Yes, maybe the league ranking also has an effect, but I'm still quite curious.

It would not be called the Champions League if the participants were second-class, right :)
European Performance Spot (EPS) EPS is the coefficient value of a league in UEFA's calculations. The better the performance of the league's representatives in European competitions, the greater the chance of the league being the best in EPS.
So the goal of all this is to improve the quality of the competition and increase competition between clubs.
Actually I can understand that, and I also totally agree. But what I mean is the 4 additional slots are not taken from the 32 teams that were previously in the old format.

But I can also understand what you said and it also makes sense. It's just that I'm questioning something that still makes me curious, not to change so that everyone is considered the same. Of course that's also unfair to the league that shows the best quality.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on March 25, 2025, 11:20:50 PM
I'm not sure if Leverkusen still have faith in their ability to defend the championship with 6-point gap and only 8 games to go. But Bayern's recent failures against weak teams might have sparked some extra hopes and motivation.
Leverkusen is obviously a big favourite against Bochum, with odds of x1.25, but it's hard to write Bochum off given they defeated Bayern 3-2 only 2 weeks ago (red card for Bayern in the 42nd minute played a big part though). Can they do it again against Leverkusen? I doubt it. Both teams will be motivated, but Leverkusen is simply a level above.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on March 26, 2025, 08:13:08 AM
I'm not sure if Leverkusen still have faith in their ability to defend the championship with 6-point gap and only 8 games to go. But Bayern's recent failures against weak teams might have sparked some extra hopes and motivation.
Leverkusen is obviously a big favourite against Bochum, with odds of x1.25, but it's hard to write Bochum off given they defeated Bayern 3-2 only 2 weeks ago (red card for Bayern in the 42nd minute played a big part though). Can they do it again against Leverkusen? I doubt it. Both teams will be motivated, but Leverkusen is simply a level above.
It is an interesting perspective you have there, and there are few things which can affect this game and make it less easy to forecast it. Nonetheless, Leverkusen has been on an unbeaten run so far even when faced with stiff challenge. They have a good structure and are zealous in attack formation, that makes it very difficult to counter them. Yes, Bochum may come into the match boosted by their impressive victory in the last match against Bayern but football is not a repetition of the previous encounter. At this stage Leverkusen are in very good run and if they do not commit silly mistakes and continue to play full throttle, they should be able to dominate the game. It is possible that some quality and winning attitude established this season will be the key factor.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 26, 2025, 09:11:24 PM
I'm not sure if Leverkusen still have faith in their ability to defend the championship with 6-point gap and only 8 games to go. But Bayern's recent failures against weak teams might have sparked some extra hopes and motivation.
Leverkusen is obviously a big favourite against Bochum, with odds of x1.25, but it's hard to write Bochum off given they defeated Bayern 3-2 only 2 weeks ago (red card for Bayern in the 42nd minute played a big part though). Can they do it again against Leverkusen? I doubt it. Both teams will be motivated, but Leverkusen is simply a level above.
It is an interesting perspective you have there, and there are few things which can affect this game and make it less easy to forecast it. Nonetheless, Leverkusen has been on an unbeaten run so far even when faced with stiff challenge. They have a good structure and are zealous in attack formation, that makes it very difficult to counter them. Yes, Bochum may come into the match boosted by their impressive victory in the last match against Bayern but football is not a repetition of the previous encounter. At this stage Leverkusen are in very good run and if they do not commit silly mistakes and continue to play full throttle, they should be able to dominate the game. It is possible that some quality and winning attitude established this season will be the key factor.
I think this game is not going to be an easy one for Leverkusen because Bochum was really impressive against bayern munich for the international break so going into this game Leverkusen should be in their best form because they should not underestimate bochum plus they really need to get result both at home and away because as it stand bayern munich is going away with the bundesliga title this season because Leverkusen has not that fantastic this season
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on March 26, 2025, 10:39:11 PM
I'm not sure if Leverkusen still have faith in their ability to defend the championship with 6-point gap and only 8 games to go. But Bayern's recent failures against weak teams might have sparked some extra hopes and motivation.
Leverkusen is obviously a big favourite against Bochum, with odds of x1.25, but it's hard to write Bochum off given they defeated Bayern 3-2 only 2 weeks ago (red card for Bayern in the 42nd minute played a big part though). Can they do it again against Leverkusen? I doubt it. Both teams will be motivated, but Leverkusen is simply a level above.
It is an interesting perspective you have there, and there are few things which can affect this game and make it less easy to forecast it. Nonetheless, Leverkusen has been on an unbeaten run so far even when faced with stiff challenge. They have a good structure and are zealous in attack formation, that makes it very difficult to counter them. Yes, Bochum may come into the match boosted by their impressive victory in the last match against Bayern but football is not a repetition of the previous encounter. At this stage Leverkusen are in very good run and if they do not commit silly mistakes and continue to play full throttle, they should be able to dominate the game. It is possible that some quality and winning attitude established this season will be the key factor.
I think this game is not going to be an easy one for Leverkusen because Bochum was really impressive against bayern munich for the international break so going into this game Leverkusen should be in their best form because they should not underestimate bochum plus they really need to get result both at home and away because as it stand bayern munich is going away with the bundesliga title this season because Leverkusen has not that fantastic this season
I fully agree with you when you say that Bochum will be a good examination of Leverkusen’s strength. Having seen Bochum’s performance in the recent past their victory over giants like Schalke means that they are capable of producing a upset hence Leverkusen should brace for the worst. It cannot be overstated that there is strength to severely punish and with that in mind, there is no room to underestimate the opponent. Also, since Bayern again looks to be even stronger in the fight for the championship in the current season, Leverkusen has to take as many points in the further games as possible. Every point is very important and they have to prove that they still retain this aspect despite this season considered not as perfect as those seasons ago.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: memehunter on March 26, 2025, 10:44:46 PM
I think this game is not going to be an easy one for Leverkusen because Bochum was really impressive against bayern munich for the international break so going into this game Leverkusen should be in their best form because they should not underestimate bochum plus they really need to get result both at home and away because as it stand bayern munich is going away with the bundesliga title this season because Leverkusen has not that fantastic this season

Interesting! Do you think this will be a high scoring match or total goals will remain under 3? I am thinking of use my odd boost  ;D.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: salad daging on March 26, 2025, 11:12:28 PM
I think this game is not going to be an easy one for Leverkusen because Bochum was really impressive against bayern munich for the international break so going into this game Leverkusen should be in their best form because they should not underestimate bochum plus they really need to get result both at home and away because as it stand bayern munich is going away with the bundesliga title this season because Leverkusen has not that fantastic this season

Interesting! Do you think this will be a high scoring match or total goals will remain under 3? I am thinking of use my odd boost  ;D.
As the match will be high-scoring then the total over 3 will be a good bet if you use odds boost.
Bochum may have beaten Bayern before but it might be different now because Leverkusen don't want to drop points so the goals could be more if my own prediction.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: memehunter on March 26, 2025, 11:23:40 PM
I think this game is not going to be an easy one for Leverkusen because Bochum was really impressive against bayern munich for the international break so going into this game Leverkusen should be in their best form because they should not underestimate bochum plus they really need to get result both at home and away because as it stand bayern munich is going away with the bundesliga title this season because Leverkusen has not that fantastic this season

Interesting! Do you think this will be a high scoring match or total goals will remain under 3? I am thinking of use my odd boost  ;D.
As the match will be high-scoring then the total over 3 will be a good bet if you use odds boost.
Bochum may have beaten Bayern before but it might be different now because Leverkusen don't want to drop points so the goals could be more if my own prediction.

Thanks for your valuable inputs. I thought so, but it is always good to have an expert opinion  ;).
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on March 26, 2025, 11:52:04 PM
I fully agree with you when you say that Bochum will be a good examination of Leverkusen’s strength. Having seen Bochum’s performance in the recent past their victory over giants like Schalke means that they are capable of producing a upset hence Leverkusen should brace for the worst. (...)

In their first clash this season (1-1), Leverkusen had a bit of a dip in performance, they had a few games in a row that ended in draws. Plus, Bochum had a home advantage.
In the previous season, Bochum got demolished by Leverkusen twice: first 4-0 in the first half of the season and then 5-0.
So if we want to consider the most recent head to head results, Leverkusen is rightfully a clear favourite.

But let's not forget that Bayern has a much better goal difference than Leverkusen (currently +51 Vs +26) so, in practice, Leverkusen has to make up 7, not 6 points to win the league.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on March 27, 2025, 01:47:51 PM
I think this game is not going to be an easy one for Leverkusen because Bochum was really impressive against bayern munich for the international break so going into this game Leverkusen should be in their best form because they should not underestimate bochum plus they really need to get result both at home and away because as it stand bayern munich is going away with the bundesliga title this season because Leverkusen has not that fantastic this season

Interesting! Do you think this will be a high scoring match or total goals will remain under 3? I am thinking of use my odd boost  ;D.
In terms of chances, Leverkusen is clearly above Bochum, but if we talk about the score, I think they will be able to win by at least 2 goals.

Although Leverkusen is not as fantastic as last season, if their opponent is Bochum, then they are clearly much better than their opponent. I believe they can win, especially since they will also play as the host in the match which can really encourage them to win.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 27, 2025, 05:36:46 PM
In terms of chances, Leverkusen is clearly above Bochum, but if we talk about the score, I think they will be able to win by at least 2 goals.

Although Leverkusen is not as fantastic as last season, if their opponent is Bochum, then they are clearly much better than their opponent. I believe they can win, especially since they will also play as the host in the match which can really encourage them to win.

Bochum is struggling to get out of the relegation zone, this can be a strong motivation for them to play with more courage and high self-discipline.
But betting on them is not my choice. And I agree Leverkusen is much better than their opponents, and Leverkusen will win by 2 goals. That makes sense to me :)
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: salad daging on March 27, 2025, 09:29:58 PM
Thanks for your valuable inputs. I thought so, but it is always good to have an expert opinion  ;).
I hope there is an expert opinion that explains this. ;)

But I myself will probably bet what I said above over 3 goals, but at this time it is still undecided in case the bookies increase the odds again.
Similarly, the Bayern Munich game could be over 3 goals.

This is just my own prediction. :D
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 27, 2025, 10:36:29 PM
In terms of chances, Leverkusen is clearly above Bochum, but if we talk about the score, I think they will be able to win by at least 2 goals.

Although Leverkusen is not as fantastic as last season, if their opponent is Bochum, then they are clearly much better than their opponent. I believe they can win, especially since they will also play as the host in the match which can really encourage them to win.

Bochum is struggling to get out of the relegation zone, this can be a strong motivation for them to play with more courage and high self-discipline.
But betting on them is not my choice. And I agree Leverkusen is much better than their opponents, and Leverkusen will win by 2 goals. That makes sense to me :)
This is the more reason that this game could be difficult for Leverkusen because Bochum will try to get a point from this game to improve their position on the standing on the the bundesliga table because they have been poor this season and finding them self in the relegation zone is a good motivation for them to play well so they can get something good From this game
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on March 27, 2025, 11:29:30 PM
This is the more reason that this game could be difficult for Leverkusen because Bochum will try to get a point from this game to improve their position on the standing on the the bundesliga table because they have been poor this season and finding them self in the relegation zone is a good motivation for them to play well so they can get something good From this game
Between Leverkusen and Bochum have onw motivate keep secure three points, for Leverkusen they won't losses three points because keep pressure Bayern Munich at the top standings behind 6 points left right now and won't loss opportunity keep winning Bundesliga trophy back to back.
But Bochum won't loss their current standings at relegation playoff recently and three important points against Leverkusen help them keep close outside from relegation zone. But Bayern Leverkusen as as host team favorable for winning the match exactly how the winning trend in last several matches before.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on March 28, 2025, 04:03:27 PM
In terms of chances, Leverkusen is clearly above Bochum, but if we talk about the score, I think they will be able to win by at least 2 goals.

Although Leverkusen is not as fantastic as last season, if their opponent is Bochum, then they are clearly much better than their opponent. I believe they can win, especially since they will also play as the host in the match which can really encourage them to win.

Bochum is struggling to get out of the relegation zone, this can be a strong motivation for them to play with more courage and high self-discipline.
But betting on them is not my choice. And I agree Leverkusen is much better than their opponents, and Leverkusen will win by 2 goals. That makes sense to me :)
Yes, that's my prediction in this match. But if as you said, Bochum dares to appear and dares to attack more then it is very risky for them, because by appearing like that, then it will be risky to create a gap in the defense line that Leverkusen might be able to exploit, and if so then I will not be surprised when they can create more than 2 goals.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on March 28, 2025, 09:22:20 PM
So looks like Bochum means business and refuses to be pushed around despite their low league position.
We are at halftime, and Leverkusen is having a hard time. They took a lead in the 20th minute as expected, but Bochum responded only 6 minutes later and we are at 1-1 draw.
Will the second half bring more goals? That's quite likely.
Leverkusen is still a favourite, but the odds for them to win are now x1.55.

Odds for all the rest of the games of this weekend are:

Borussia Mönchengladbach x2.85 Vs RB Leipzig x2.37; Draw x3.60
Holstein Kiel x3.25 Vs SV Werder Bremen x2.08; Draw x3.80
TSG Hoffenheim x2.37 Vs FC Augsburg x3.10; Draw x3.25
VfL Wolfsburg x1.63 Vs 1. FC Heidenheim 1846 x5.00; Draw x4.20
Eintracht Frankfurt x2.54 Vs VfB Stuttgart x2.60; Draw x3.66
SC Freiburg x2.00 Vs 1. FC Union Berlin x3.80; Draw x3.50
Borussia Dortmund x1.66 Vs 1. FSV Mainz 05 x5.00; Draw x4.00

If you see any good picks, speak up.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: salad daging on March 28, 2025, 09:35:30 PM
So looks like Bochum means business and refuses to be pushed around despite their low league position.
We are at halftime, and Leverkusen is having a hard time. They took a lead in the 20th minute as expected, but Bochum responded only 6 minutes later and we are at 1-1 draw.
Will the second half bring more goals? That's quite likely.
Leverkusen is still a favourite, but the odds for them to win are now x1.55.
Leverkusen seemed to be struggling a bit in this match - after a few injuries to players though their opponents Bochum in the first half were hard to beat even though it only ended 1-1.
It's possible that in the second half things will be different as I predict Leverkusen to win but as Bochum can only defend as they were pressured by Leverkusen throughout the first half.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 29, 2025, 12:20:14 PM
So looks like Bochum means business and refuses to be pushed around despite their low league position.
We are at halftime, and Leverkusen is having a hard time. They took a lead in the 20th minute as expected, but Bochum responded only 6 minutes later and we are at 1-1 draw.
Will the second half bring more goals? That's quite likely.
Leverkusen is still a favourite, but the odds for them to win are now x1.55.
Leverkusen seemed to be struggling a bit in this match - after a few injuries to players though their opponents Bochum in the first half were hard to beat even though it only ended 1-1.
It's possible that in the second half things will be different as I predict Leverkusen to win but as Bochum can only defend as they were pressured by Leverkusen throughout the first half.

The result of the match was as I expected: Leverkusen won 3-1 against Bochum.
A great match with beautiful goals and immediate pressure, but unfortunately, Boniface's second goal in the 80th minute after receiving Frimpong's pass was disallowed by the VAR referee because he was caught offside.
Now Kompany knows it's not over til it's over because Xabi will not lose any more points.
The pressure is back on Bayern Munich. I hope they don't make a mistake.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on March 29, 2025, 08:00:06 PM
Although they lost, I really appreciate what St Pauli showed in the match against Bayern Munich. I thought they would lose very easily, but they were able to match Bayern Munich's game, at least in the first half.

However, in the second half they had to concede 2 goals and they could only create 1 goal in return so they had to accept defeat and go home empty-handed.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on March 30, 2025, 10:43:29 AM
Although they lost, I really appreciate what St Pauli showed in the match against Bayern Munich. I thought they would lose very easily, but they were able to match Bayern Munich's game, at least in the first half.

However, in the second half they had to concede 2 goals and they could only create 1 goal in return so they had to accept defeat and go home empty-handed.

Agreed. It was a great performance from Alexander Blessin's squad...We have to give them credit.
Bayern achieved a very bitter victory; two players are out again due to injury. It feels like from March onwards, when the time comes, Bayern players drop like flies. Let's hope it's nothing serious.
At the back, Bayern is again very vulnerable, and there are opponents with much better quality in the next game. More attention is needed in the remaining games
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on March 30, 2025, 12:36:24 PM
Although they lost, I really appreciate what St Pauli showed in the match against Bayern Munich. I thought they would lose very easily, but they were able to match Bayern Munich's game, at least in the first half.

However, in the second half they had to concede 2 goals and they could only create 1 goal in return so they had to accept defeat and go home empty-handed.

Agreed. It was a great performance from Alexander Blessin's squad...We have to give them credit.
Bayern achieved a very bitter victory; two players are out again due to injury. It feels like from March onwards, when the time comes, Bayern players drop like flies. Let's hope it's nothing serious.
At the back, Bayern is again very vulnerable, and there are opponents with much better quality in the next game. More attention is needed in the remaining games
It is certainly a loss for Bayern Munich for the matches they will play next. However, they can be said to have a balanced squad depth, so this should not be a big problem for them.

Yes, even so, they still have to find players who can fill the void optimally, because after all, the position with players who are used to it will definitely be different if other players replace them.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 30, 2025, 05:29:35 PM
Although they lost, I really appreciate what St Pauli showed in the match against Bayern Munich. I thought they would lose very easily, but they were able to match Bayern Munich's game, at least in the first half.

However, in the second half they had to concede 2 goals and they could only create 1 goal in return so they had to accept defeat and go home empty-handed.
You're right st pauli showed class against bayern munich playing away from home I was really expecting a different scoreline but I was wrong with the way that they played but for bayern munich this win showed that they are in full control of their destination in the bundesliga because at this point of the season what you need the most is the points and not necessarily how you play
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on March 30, 2025, 10:10:29 PM
I saw Borussia Dortmund back with their good game when they managed to beat Mainz. This is the Borussia Dortmund that was missing during this season. The game in this match they played very well.

They could score 3 goals and that could make them win, although Mainz tried to reply, they could only score 1 goal and that was not enough to make them match Borussia Dortmund.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: armanda90 on March 31, 2025, 12:11:40 AM
I saw Borussia Dortmund back with their good game when they managed to beat Mainz. This is the Borussia Dortmund that was missing during this season. The game in this match they played very well.

They could score 3 goals and that could make them win, although Mainz tried to reply, they could only score 1 goal and that was not enough to make them match Borussia Dortmund.
Dortmund improving bit their position standing after victory over Mainz and break to 10th standings position after recently drop to 12th standings. Indeed outside from the champion league spot place but victory over Mainz 3-1 have chance for Dortmund raise the top fourth behind 7 points left awhile.
I think Dortmund bad performed in this season not over yet to reach higher standings position and have exist at Champion League quarter final match against Barcelona. If Dortmund can reach until final in Champion League and finish at top fourth position likely not bad performance.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on March 31, 2025, 09:51:56 PM
I saw Borussia Dortmund back with their good game when they managed to beat Mainz. This is the Borussia Dortmund that was missing during this season. The game in this match they played very well.

They could score 3 goals and that could make them win, although Mainz tried to reply, they could only score 1 goal and that was not enough to make them match Borussia Dortmund.
Dortmund improving bit their position standing after victory over Mainz and break to 10th standings position after recently drop to 12th standings. Indeed outside from the champion league spot place but victory over Mainz 3-1 have chance for Dortmund raise the top fourth behind 7 points left awhile.
I think Dortmund bad performed in this season not over yet to reach higher standings position and have exist at Champion League quarter final match against Barcelona. If Dortmund can reach until final in Champion League and finish at top fourth position likely not bad performance.
I think Dortmund should focus more on finishing in a top four position by getting a good result in the remaining games that are left for them to play in the bundesliga because of they focus on the champions League too much it's going to affects them because in the champions League there are much better opponents so  for Dortmund this season there task should be how they can get a top four finish the worst should be a Europa League sports because Dortmund missing out on the champions League will be a blow to Dortmund as a club
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 01, 2025, 04:31:13 PM
I think Dortmund bad performed in this season not over yet to reach higher standings position and have exist at Champion League quarter final match against Barcelona. If Dortmund can reach until final in Champion League and finish at top fourth position likely not bad performance.
Well considering Dortmund's performances in previous seasons this season their performance has been lacking, so in view of this yes, they need to improve, of course if they achieve the impossible and possible thing of beating Barcelona in the UCL then it would be epic and possibly the best thing they can do to wash away the poor performance they have had in the Bundesliga, personally for me they have been very bad this season, they should at least be in 5th position, and they are already 5 places higher, if they do their best in the UCL and achieve it my total respect.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on April 01, 2025, 09:47:02 PM
No surprises in Munich. St Pauli caused them some trouble but eventually Bayern collected another 3 points and defended their 6 points advantage over Leverkusen.

Borussia Dortmund is finally showing some improvement, after two embarrassing losses to Leipzig and Augsburg, they finally put themselves together and noted a comfy win over a tough rival, Mainz (currently 4th). Hope to see them play at their 100% in the UCL quarter-final against Barcelona next week.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 02, 2025, 07:44:04 PM

Borussia Dortmund is finally showing some improvement, after two embarrassing losses to Leipzig and Augsburg, they finally put themselves together and noted a comfy win over a tough rival, Mainz (currently 4th). Hope to see them play at their 100% in the UCL quarter-final against Barcelona next week.

Beier's propelled Dortmund to a crucial 3-1 triumph over Mainz. and Borussia Dortmund keeping its hopes of finishing in the
Champions League positions are alive this season.
Beier's clinical double, complemented by Can's header, showcased tactical superiority. Dortmund's pressing game disrupted Mainz's rhythm, while their aerial dominance proved decisive.
However, Mainz is playing well. They are difficult to play against, a very efficient team, but Dortmund is playing at home and wants to win this game with their fans.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on April 02, 2025, 09:31:37 PM
I saw Borussia Dortmund back with their good game when they managed to beat Mainz. This is the Borussia Dortmund that was missing during this season. The game in this match they played very well.

They could score 3 goals and that could make them win, although Mainz tried to reply, they could only score 1 goal and that was not enough to make them match Borussia Dortmund.
Dortmund improving bit their position standing after victory over Mainz and break to 10th standings position after recently drop to 12th standings. Indeed outside from the champion league spot place but victory over Mainz 3-1 have chance for Dortmund raise the top fourth behind 7 points left awhile.
I think Dortmund bad performed in this season not over yet to reach higher standings position and have exist at Champion League quarter final match against Barcelona. If Dortmund can reach until final in Champion League and finish at top fourth position likely not bad performance.
It is not impossible for them to do that, in the previous season they were also able to be in the final. But of course they have to go through a steep path, because they have to face a very tough team.

I myself am not so sure they will be able to do it, although their chances are still there, but the percentage is not greater than other teams that are considered tougher.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on April 02, 2025, 10:45:40 PM
I saw Borussia Dortmund back with their good game when they managed to beat Mainz. This is the Borussia Dortmund that was missing during this season. The game in this match they played very well.

They could score 3 goals and that could make them win, although Mainz tried to reply, they could only score 1 goal and that was not enough to make them match Borussia Dortmund.
Dortmund improving bit their position standing after victory over Mainz and break to 10th standings position after recently drop to 12th standings. Indeed outside from the champion league spot place but victory over Mainz 3-1 have chance for Dortmund raise the top fourth behind 7 points left awhile.
I think Dortmund bad performed in this season not over yet to reach higher standings position and have exist at Champion League quarter final match against Barcelona. If Dortmund can reach until final in Champion League and finish at top fourth position likely not bad performance.
It is not impossible for them to do that, in the previous season they were also able to be in the final. But of course they have to go through a steep path, because they have to face a very tough team.

I myself am not so sure they will be able to do it, although their chances are still there, but the percentage is not greater than other teams that are considered tougher.
It will be difficult for Dortmund to make it to the champions League final this year because this year there are more challenging and tougher oppositions in the champions League plus Dortmund is not in the best of forms because they are just trying to come back to form so I don't see them playing competitively with the best of clubs in Europe what Dortmund should focus more this season is to see how they will make it to the champions League next season by finishing in the top four spots in the bundesliga table this season
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on April 03, 2025, 05:56:47 AM
It is not impossible for them to do that, in the previous season they were also able to be in the final. But of course they have to go through a steep path, because they have to face a very tough team.

I myself am not so sure they will be able to do it, although their chances are still there, but the percentage is not greater than other teams that are considered tougher.
For sure their flight to the final stage will not be smooth-sailing, especially when one faces teams with high quality. In as much as this may have been the case, history had seen that even the under dogs within teams are capable of creating a shocker if they set their mode in the right animal spirit and game strategy. They will not have such strong chances as the other teams, but they will be able to show that they deserve to be on the highest level. Football is a sport that cannot be easily foreseen and that is why it attracts many people. One should also appreciate for the way they address each occasion with lots of preparedness and calmness.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 03, 2025, 04:06:02 PM
It is not impossible for them to do that, in the previous season they were also able to be in the final. But of course they have to go through a steep path, because they have to face a very tough team.

I myself am not so sure they will be able to do it, although their chances are still there, but the percentage is not greater than other teams that are considered tougher.
For sure their flight to the final stage will not be smooth-sailing, especially when one faces teams with high quality. In as much as this may have been the case, history had seen that even the under dogs within teams are capable of creating a shocker if they set their mode in the right animal spirit and game strategy. They will not have such strong chances as the other teams, but they will be able to show that they deserve to be on the highest level. Football is a sport that cannot be easily foreseen and that is why it attracts many people. One should also appreciate for the way they address each occasion with lots of preparedness and calmness.

I don't underestimate any team in the Champions League, but I think Barcelona won't lose to Dortmund in the quarter-finals. They're going to the semi-finals, at least. Probably also to the final unless they somehow fuck it up
Barca's game under Flick continues to develop well; they continue to have more shots on goal, and the control of the game just needs consistency. When they concede goals, it's more due to their own mistakes not the dominance of the opponent.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on April 03, 2025, 05:46:11 PM
Arsenal is making a move to acquire Wolfsburg's star, Mohamed Amoura during the summer transfer window:
https://metro.co.uk/2025/04/02/arsenal-make-enquiry-sign-29m-bundesliga-striker-cheaper-isak-alternative-22834580/

As for this weekend games, some media report (https://www.thehansindia.com/sports/bundesliga-2024-25-weve-to-go-full-throttle-against-augsburg-says-bayern-coach-vincent-kompany-959657) that Vincent Kompany intends to go "full throttle" against Augsburg tomorrow.
Augsburg is a pretty solid team, currently ranked 8th in the table and are on 7-long streak of games without loss. They will have a home turf advantage, so I wouldn't be shocked if they steal some points tomorrow.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on April 03, 2025, 06:05:44 PM
It is not impossible for them to do that, in the previous season they were also able to be in the final. But of course they have to go through a steep path, because they have to face a very tough team.

I myself am not so sure they will be able to do it, although their chances are still there, but the percentage is not greater than other teams that are considered tougher.
It will be difficult for Dortmund to make it to the champions League final this year because this year there are more challenging and tougher oppositions in the champions League plus Dortmund is not in the best of forms because they are just trying to come back to form so I don't see them playing competitively with the best of clubs in Europe what Dortmund should focus more this season is to see how they will make it to the champions League next season by finishing in the top four spots in the bundesliga table this season
That's it, they are in a difficult situation, their game is not like the usual seasons where they usually play well, but this season they are not performing well.

I think they can be in the final if they can get a very big luck. If they have that luck, then they will find a way even if we think it is a strange way.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on April 04, 2025, 01:56:36 PM
After 1 defeat and 1 draw, Bayern Munich can win again in the last week, currently they will face Augsburg and have the status as the away team.

This season the title for them is already in sight, but they have not claimed the title, so they must maximize the match to get closer to the title. I think even though they are playing as the away team, Bayern Munich should not have much difficulty.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on April 04, 2025, 09:53:22 PM
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Despite Kompany announcing they will approach the game at "full throttle", Bayern is struggling against Augsburg.
If the game ends up with a draw and if Leverkusen wins tomorrow against 16th Heidenheim, the gap would reduce to only 4 points and the finish of the season will get much more exciting. I wouldn't mind that to happen at all.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 04, 2025, 10:49:08 PM

Despite Kompany announcing they will approach the game at "full throttle", Bayern is struggling against Augsburg.
If the game ends up with a draw and if Leverkusen wins tomorrow against 16th Heidenheim, the gap would reduce to only 4 points and the finish of the season will get much more exciting. I wouldn't mind that to happen at all.

The match ended 1-3, and Bayern defeated the hottest team in the Bundesliga, ending Augsburg's 11-match unbeaten run.
It was an important win and important three points. The fact that the game turned around after going behind was also positive. But Musiala's injury ruined the win and the good mood. Congratulations...
Now it's time to rest until Wednesday against Inter.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on April 04, 2025, 11:22:56 PM
The match ended 1-3, and Bayern defeated the hottest team in the Bundesliga, ending Augsburg's 11-match unbeaten run.
It was an important win and important three points. The fact that the game turned around after going behind was also positive. But Musiala's injury ruined the win and the good mood. Congratulations...
Now it's time to rest until Wednesday against Inter.

I didn't even know about that Augsburg's 11 games without loss streak. It's a shame, but that Zesiger's red card in the 58th minute helped Bayern a lot.
That put some pressure off their shoulders and now they can fully focus on their next game, which is Inter in the Champions League quarter final on Tuesday. Bayern is a slight favourite to get through to the semi final.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: salad daging on April 04, 2025, 11:41:16 PM
The match ended 1-3, and Bayern defeated the hottest team in the Bundesliga, ending Augsburg's 11-match unbeaten run.
It was an important win and important three points. The fact that the game turned around after going behind was also positive. But Musiala's injury ruined the win and the good mood. Congratulations...
Now it's time to rest until Wednesday against Inter.

I didn't even know about that Augsburg's 11 games without loss streak. It's a shame, but that Zesiger's red card in the 58th minute helped Bayern a lot.
That put some pressure off their shoulders and now they can fully focus on their next game, which is Inter in the Champions League quarter final on Tuesday. Bayern is a slight favourite to get through to the semi final.
Without the red card the mood of the game might have been a little different, although in reality we would have predicted a Bayern Munich win.
Now Bayern Munich are firmly in the table with a big points difference from Leverkusen, and the thought of this week in the quarterfinals against Inter is a tough one for Bayern.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: alltalk on April 04, 2025, 11:59:34 PM
Without the red card the mood of the game might have been a little different, although in reality we would have predicted a Bayern Munich win.
Now Bayern Munich are firmly in the table with a big points difference from Leverkusen, and the thought of this week in the quarterfinals against Inter is a tough one for Bayern.
Agree. The match may end up with a draw if there was no red card. But I think Bayern Munich was still capable to win the match. Sure, the red card made an advantage for Bayern Munich, they will be easier to win because they played against 10 Augsburg players. However, winning this match, Bayern Munich seems to be closer to the trophy for this season. I personally don't see a chance that Leverkusen may overtake the position of Bayern Munich in the 1st place. Now, the point gap is 9 points, sure it is a large point gap.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on April 05, 2025, 07:59:21 PM
Another 3 points by Leverkusen, but it was a tough win.
Heidenheim turned out to be a very hard challenge, they didn't allow Xabi Alonso's team to dominate them. Possession was split almost evenly, and Heidenheim had more shots on goal.
Leverkusen won only because of a late goal by Buendia in additional time.

I'm, again, positively surprised by Dortmund, they won again against a tough opponent. After defeating Mainz 3-1 last week, today they noted another comfy win (4-1) over Freiburg in an away game.
Looks like Kovac is doing something right. If they keep playing like that, they have a chance for a spot in the top 4. Currently, they are 5 points behind.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 06, 2025, 10:30:07 AM
The match ended 1-3, and Bayern defeated the hottest team in the Bundesliga, ending Augsburg's 11-match unbeaten run.
It was an important win and important three points. The fact that the game turned around after going behind was also positive. But Musiala's injury ruined the win and the good mood. Congratulations...
Now it's time to rest until Wednesday against Inter.

I didn't even know about that Augsburg's 11 games without loss streak. It's a shame, but that Zesiger's red card in the 58th minute helped Bayern a lot.
That put some pressure off their shoulders and now they can fully focus on their next game, which is Inter in the Champions League quarter final on Tuesday. Bayern is a slight favourite to get through to the semi final.

Yep. Bayern is lucky..
Zesiger receives a second yellow card. That horrible call by the referee on the 2nd yellow on Cedric Zesiger completely changed the game in Bayern's favor. Jöllenbeck used a bad angle and then omitted the fact that this challenge was deemed a yellow card offense that happened to be the player’s 2nd yellow card, and VAR is not permitted to intervene in cases of yellow-red cards.
Augsburg was down to ten men, and the match ended in a 1-3 for Bayern. There is no club to criticise here except the referee.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on April 06, 2025, 07:07:59 PM
The red card received by Augsburg was one of the factors that made Bayern Munich finally able to win this match. The hosts were able to put up a meaningful fight before they received the red card and they were even able to take the lead first.

However, Bayern Munich were also able to take advantage of their advantage, they were able to make good use of the players they had on the field so that they were able to successfully bring home the victory.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Gurujebs on April 08, 2025, 09:34:30 PM
The red card received by Augsburg was one of the factors that made Bayern Munich finally able to win this match. The hosts were able to put up a meaningful fight before they received the red card and they were even able to take the lead first.

However, Bayern Munich were also able to take advantage of their advantage, they were able to make good use of the players they had on the field so that they were able to successfully bring home the victory.

If were not for the red card given to Augsburg player in the second half, I am confident that the game would end up draw or a defeats for Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich look bad playing against weak teams, they barely play against weak teams without conceding a goal. Bayern conceded a goal in the last 3 league games they played against weak teams.

Furthermore, Bayern Munch were able to make used of the red card advantage to scored two more goals in the second half, the points helped to stay 6 points ahead of Leverkusen. Kompany needs a better change, they can’t win the trophy they want with this performance next season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Roseline492 on April 08, 2025, 09:52:06 PM
I don't underestimate any team in the Champions League, but I think Barcelona won't lose to Dortmund in the quarter-finals. They're going to the semi-finals, at least. Probably also to the final unless they somehow fuck it up
Barca's game under Flick continues to develop well; they continue to have more shots on goal, and the control of the game just needs consistency. When they concede goals, it's more due to their own mistakes not the dominance of the opponent.

I also think for Barcelona because they have come a long way to allow Borussia Dortmund make them not to get to champions League finals, Barcelona has not been form for quite seasons, so since they have break free from those season it will never be easy for any club that would meet them, however Borussia Dortmund has not even compete equally with Bayern Leverkusen to be meeting Barcelona whom can now be high rank than Bayern Munich itself, so actually is a go home for Borussia Dortmund on the champions League as they start.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 09, 2025, 12:46:12 PM
I don't underestimate any team in the Champions League, but I think Barcelona won't lose to Dortmund in the quarter-finals. They're going to the semi-finals, at least. Probably also to the final unless they somehow fuck it up
Barca's game under Flick continues to develop well; they continue to have more shots on goal, and the control of the game just needs consistency. When they concede goals, it's more due to their own mistakes not the dominance of the opponent.

I also think for Barcelona because they have come a long way to allow Borussia Dortmund make them not to get to champions League finals, Barcelona has not been form for quite seasons, so since they have break free from those season it will never be easy for any club that would meet them, however Borussia Dortmund has not even compete equally with Bayern Leverkusen to be meeting Barcelona whom can now be high rank than Bayern Munich itself, so actually is a go home for Borussia Dortmund on the champions League as they start.

Looking at Dortmund's current form, no one would dare to predict Dortmund will win this match, especially since Barcelona is playing at home. But we still can't be 100% sure that Barcelona is in the best position because anything can happen on the pitch.
I'm so hyped for the Champions League showdown too, but no complacency; let's not forget how Arsenal shocked Madrid yesterday or how Inter beat Bayern in Allianz Arena
Every goal in this match, whether against Borussia Dortmund or Barca, is going to be electric.
Good luck to both of them....
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on April 10, 2025, 03:16:19 PM
Looking at Dortmund's current form, no one would dare to predict Dortmund will win this match, especially since Barcelona is playing at home. But we still can't be 100% sure that Barcelona is in the best position because anything can happen on the pitch.
I'm so hyped for the Champions League showdown too, but no complacency; let's not forget how Arsenal shocked Madrid yesterday or how Inter beat Bayern in Allianz Arena
Every goal in this match, whether against Borussia Dortmund or Barca, is going to be electric.
Good luck to both of them....
Anything can happen on the pitch I agree with that. But we will also see how they perform and at the moment their performance does not show that they can do it all.

I am not underestimating them, but I am just saying something based on what I see now. Of course we will first think realistically even though nothing is impossible in football.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 10, 2025, 07:51:41 PM

Augsburg was down to ten men, and the match ended in a 1-3 for Bayern. There is no club to criticise here except the referee.
A lot of things are happening with the referees lately, and this is something that is really alarming, that is why we must be very critical, sometimes bad refereeing harms a team, which is really infuriating, human errors in games at this stage are inconceivable, of course they have the help of the VAR, so for me corruption is present in all the praise, and that is something that bothers, some say that Bayern is very lucky, yes, maybe, but we do not know what other hands are handling things in world football.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 10, 2025, 09:28:09 PM
Looking at Dortmund's current form, no one would dare to predict Dortmund will win this match, especially since Barcelona is playing at home. But we still can't be 100% sure that Barcelona is in the best position because anything can happen on the pitch.
I'm so hyped for the Champions League showdown too, but no complacency; let's not forget how Arsenal shocked Madrid yesterday or how Inter beat Bayern in Allianz Arena
Every goal in this match, whether against Borussia Dortmund or Barca, is going to be electric.
Good luck to both of them....
Anything can happen on the pitch I agree with that. But we will also see how they perform and at the moment their performance does not show that they can do it all.

I am not underestimating them, but I am just saying something based on what I see now. Of course we will first think realistically even though nothing is impossible in football.

And congrats...you are right. Barcelona crushed Dortmund with a score of 4-0.
Honestly, I bet Barca will win this match, but I didn't expect Dortmund to lose with a score like this.
How is there any consideration to extend Kovac's contract after this defeat? There's no plan, no concept, no will. Dortmund will not go anywhere next year.
Even Bayern lost to Inter at home. I doubt any of them will qualify.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Agbe on April 10, 2025, 10:18:47 PM
Looking at Dortmund's current form, no one would dare to predict Dortmund will win this match, especially since Barcelona is playing at home. But we still can't be 100% sure that Barcelona is in the best position because anything can happen on the pitch.
I'm so hyped for the Champions League showdown too, but no complacency; let's not forget how Arsenal shocked Madrid yesterday or how Inter beat Bayern in Allianz Arena
Every goal in this match, whether against Borussia Dortmund or Barca, is going to be electric.
Good luck to both of them....
Anything can happen on the pitch I agree with that. But we will also see how they perform and at the moment their performance does not show that they can do it all.

I am not underestimating them, but I am just saying something based on what I see now. Of course we will first think realistically even though nothing is impossible in football.

And congrats...you are right. Barcelona crushed Dortmund with a score of 4-0.
Honestly, I bet Barca will win this match, but I didn't expect Dortmund to lose with a score like this.
How is there any consideration to extend Kovac's contract after this defeat? There's no plan, no concept, no will. Dortmund will not go anywhere next year.
Even Bayern lost to Inter at home. I doubt any of them will qualify.
I don't expect this kind of result from Dortmund I expected a much more better result that Dortmund is having a good form of result now this is not a good one for bundesliga teams because Bayern Munich too lost at home in the champions league let see how the second leg will turn out to be if they can do anything to upturn this result, because Barcelona is in a very good form watching the game yesterday I was just surprised by the way Barcelona had total control of the game with this result Barcelona is in the semi finals of the champions league because I don't see them lossing the second leg
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on April 11, 2025, 12:22:28 AM
I've just watched highlights of Bayern Vs Inter and Bayern has nothing to be ashamed of. They were clearly a better team and created more chances, but they couldn't convert. It happens, such is football. They are still only one goal behind so can turn things around.

I noticed media are trying to steer some drama saying that Thomas Muller is blaming Harry Kane for the loss because of the great chance he had in the first half but missed, e.g.:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14589009/Bayern-Munich-Harry-Kane-Champions-League-England-Inter-Milan.html
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/lists/thomas-muller-makes-surprise-admission-harry-kane-misses-sitter-bayern-munich-champions-league-defeat-inter/blt437d696341ae1897#cs5792f4e8d2dcd219

The way I read it, Muller didn't say anything inappropriate, just stated a fact. Hope that doesn't affect the team's morale before the 2nd leg.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on April 11, 2025, 03:31:29 PM
Anything can happen on the pitch I agree with that. But we will also see how they perform and at the moment their performance does not show that they can do it all.

I am not underestimating them, but I am just saying something based on what I see now. Of course we will first think realistically even though nothing is impossible in football.

And congrats...you are right. Barcelona crushed Dortmund with a score of 4-0.
Honestly, I bet Barca will win this match, but I didn't expect Dortmund to lose with a score like this.
How is there any consideration to extend Kovac's contract after this defeat? There's no plan, no concept, no will. Dortmund will not go anywhere next year.
Even Bayern lost to Inter at home. I doubt any of them will qualify.
Yes, maybe some people did not expect that Borussia Dortmund would concede that many goals, but some others were not surprised by this because from the beginning of the season we saw a performance that was not so good from Borussia Dortmuind.

They can now only surrender in my opinion while hoping that luck will come to them in the second leg later. But looking at the moment, that luck seems quite impossible.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on April 11, 2025, 10:17:15 PM
Yes, maybe some people did not expect that Borussia Dortmund would concede that many goals, but some others were not surprised by this because from the beginning of the season we saw a performance that was not so good from Borussia Dortmuind.

They can now only surrender in my opinion while hoping that luck will come to them in the second leg later. But looking at the moment, that luck seems quite impossible.
It is quite discouraging when things do not go our way when performing on the pitch and this results in the expression of disappointment. Of course no one wants their team to be struggling but what that occurred was not out of the blue. If there is no stability throughout the season then it is quite natural that the results attained are below the expected level. But, however, football would still allow for some surprises here and there. Thus, nothing is yet over, to say the least, since the last game has not yet been played. Subsequently, what is left in the basket for the team, of course, is how they are going to approach their next match, not expecting luck to repeat the set of previously played cards but insisting that anything is possible.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 11, 2025, 10:18:03 PM
I don't expect this kind of result from Dortmund I expected a much more better result that Dortmund is having a good form of result now this is not a good one for bundesliga teams because Bayern Munich too lost at home in the champions league let see how the second leg will turn out to be if they can do anything to upturn this result, because Barcelona is in a very good form watching the game yesterday I was just surprised by the way Barcelona had total control of the game with this result Barcelona is in the semi finals of the champions league because I don't see them lossing the second leg

Bundesliga clubs have been very disappointing in the Champions League this season. There have been no more surprises like last season, even in the Europa League, only Eintracht Frankfurt has been able to go far, at least so far.
The German Bundesliga is officially out of the race for the Champions League title.
A heartbreaking end to what once seemed so promising. :(
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on April 11, 2025, 10:30:03 PM

Bundesliga clubs have been very disappointing in the Champions League this season. There have been no more surprises like last season, even in the Europa League, only Eintracht Frankfurt has been able to go far, at least so far.
The German Bundesliga is officially out of the race for the Champions League title.
A heartbreaking end to what once seemed so promising. :(
Indeed, it is quite difficult to come to terms with the fact that the Bundesliga has to quit its course halfway through. Of all German clubs in question the performance does not indicate that they can still perform well in the European competitions until the end of the season. Comparing with the last season, this result cannot be considered as a fully successful one. Inability to have a steady improvement even when teams from other leagues demonstrate this form of improvement becomes a characteristic of the Bundesliga. As always the football was full of shocks and there was nothing extraordinary that the teams could count on. Now, it is left to wonder how the German teams can return even stronger in the next seasons with much better preparation.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on April 12, 2025, 12:53:44 AM
In the opening game of matchday 29, Leipzig managed to grab an away 3-2 win over Woflsburg and put some pressure on the 3rd Eintracht as Leipzig now has the same points as them (with one more game played, obviously).

After not-so-great performance against Inter, Bayern is hosting Borussia Dortmund. With these two teams, anything can happen, although Bayern is an x1.49 favourite. Earlier tomorrow Leverkusen is hosting Union Berlin and will have a chance to put some psychological pressure on Bayern, but only if they win. Union Berlin can be a tough team to play against. They've lost only one out of their last 5 games and recently split points with Bayern, so Leverkusen will need to give their 100%.

But if Leverkusen earns 3 points and Borussia Dortmund somehow manages to win in Munich, the distance between Bayern and Leverkusen would be reduced to only 3 points.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 12, 2025, 03:42:06 PM

Bundesliga clubs have been very disappointing in the Champions League this season. There have been no more surprises like last season, even in the Europa League, only Eintracht Frankfurt has been able to go far, at least so far.
The German Bundesliga is officially out of the race for the Champions League title.
A heartbreaking end to what once seemed so promising. :(
Indeed, it is quite difficult to come to terms with the fact that the Bundesliga has to quit its course halfway through. Of all German clubs in question the performance does not indicate that they can still perform well in the European competitions until the end of the season. Comparing with the last season, this result cannot be considered as a fully successful one. Inability to have a steady improvement even when teams from other leagues demonstrate this form of improvement becomes a characteristic of the Bundesliga. As always the football was full of shocks and there was nothing extraordinary that the teams could count on. Now, it is left to wonder how the German teams can return even stronger in the next seasons with much better preparation.

Thoroughly outclassed. If you aim to compete, clearly, the clubs in Bundesliga need several upgrades.
Dortmund this season is largely at fault, but German football is descending down a bad path. Also, the squad is too thin to cope with player absences, and that's the responsibility of the board, who themselves have questions to answer. Bundesliga has been absolutely miserable this season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on April 12, 2025, 07:57:53 PM
Yes, maybe some people did not expect that Borussia Dortmund would concede that many goals, but some others were not surprised by this because from the beginning of the season we saw a performance that was not so good from Borussia Dortmuind.

They can now only surrender in my opinion while hoping that luck will come to them in the second leg later. But looking at the moment, that luck seems quite impossible.
It is quite discouraging when things do not go our way when performing on the pitch and this results in the expression of disappointment. Of course no one wants their team to be struggling but what that occurred was not out of the blue. If there is no stability throughout the season then it is quite natural that the results attained are below the expected level. But, however, football would still allow for some surprises here and there. Thus, nothing is yet over, to say the least, since the last game has not yet been played. Subsequently, what is left in the basket for the team, of course, is how they are going to approach their next match, not expecting luck to repeat the set of previously played cards but insisting that anything is possible.
I think Borussia Dortmund should start making improvements for the next season. They might have started to forget whatever they experienced this season.

What they experienced this season they should forget and even from now on. Don't let them bring this to the next season, because it will make it even more difficult for them. However and whatever results they achieve this season, it can be a lesson for the next season.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on April 12, 2025, 08:18:18 PM
It is an interesting ongoing second half in Allianz Arena as both teams are playing 2-2 draw. Dortmund scored first in the early minutes of the second half and Guerreiro equalized the goal on the 65th minutes with a clinical finish. Four minutes later, Gnarby doubled Bayern goal. Dortmund clapped back on the 75th minutes by W. Anton to balance the score line. Both teams afe struggling to take the lead in order to get all three points.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Roseline492 on April 12, 2025, 10:40:09 PM
And congrats...you are right. Barcelona crushed Dortmund with a score of 4-0.
Honestly, I bet Barca will win this match, but I didn't expect Dortmund to lose with a score like this.
How is there any consideration to extend Kovac's contract after this defeat? There's no plan, no concept, no will. Dortmund will not go anywhere next year.
Even Bayern lost to Inter at home. I doubt any of them will qualify.

I no that Barcelona will do that to them because the level of players Barcelona has is not the same with that of Borussia Dortmund, from Lewandowski to the rest of the players are very experience, they seem little by age  but never in the field because they always find there way through all the time, there was a time I thought Lewandowski had loss form but it did not take time to revive himself and now is difficult for a single match to pass without him having a goal for Barcelona, they are currently wining Leganes.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on April 12, 2025, 11:08:17 PM
I knew Leverkusen could trip on Union Berlin, just like Bayern did a few weeks ago. A chance of reducing the gap to 4 points was wasted. Leverkusen was dominant with 75% possession and more than twice as many shots on goal as Union, but they couldn't convert that into goals and possibly ruined their chances of defending the title, as there are only 5 rounds to go.

Despite the 2-2 draw, I think it was a fairly decent game by Bayern, at least in terms of domination and creating chances. They made 28 shots on goal (11 on target), which is really high and they probably should've scored more than 2 goals from all that. Borussia was quite lucky to be coming home with one point.
It could be a bit concerning to Bayern's fans that they are losing points much more often than they did earlier in the season, e.g, they won only 2 out of their last 5 league games, but I doesn't look like Leverkusen will be able to seriously threaten them with the season coming to an end soon.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on April 13, 2025, 03:49:30 PM
After being crushed by Barcelona in the Champions League, Borussia Dortmund managed to hold their rivals who are at the top of the standings to a draw this week. They were able to take home 1 point from Bayern Munich's headquarters.

Bayern Munich dominated the match but Borussia Dortmund were able to defend well and they were even able to score first. Then the situation turned around, but Borussia Dortmund were able to score another equalizer that lasted until the end.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 14, 2025, 08:38:53 PM
After being crushed by Barcelona in the Champions League, Borussia Dortmund managed to hold their rivals who are at the top of the standings to a draw this week. They were able to take home 1 point from Bayern Munich's headquarters.

Bayern Munich dominated the match but Borussia Dortmund were able to defend well and they were even able to score first. Then the situation turned around, but Borussia Dortmund were able to score another equalizer that lasted until the end.

When Dortmund was in better form and had better players, they lost 4-0 or 5-0. Now, they can make it 2-2. I think they have to be proud of that.
The Dortmund players have to take it one match at a time, give it everything, and then they will see how valuable this point was at the end.
They tried hard in this match, and they need this type of mentality against Barcelona in the second leg with the support of the Yellow Wall.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on April 15, 2025, 05:36:06 PM
After being crushed by Barcelona in the Champions League, Borussia Dortmund managed to hold their rivals who are at the top of the standings to a draw this week. They were able to take home 1 point from Bayern Munich's headquarters.

Bayern Munich dominated the match but Borussia Dortmund were able to defend well and they were even able to score first. Then the situation turned around, but Borussia Dortmund were able to score another equalizer that lasted until the end.

When Dortmund was in better form and had better players, they lost 4-0 or 5-0. Now, they can make it 2-2. I think they have to be proud of that.
The Dortmund players have to take it one match at a time, give it everything, and then they will see how valuable this point was at the end.
They tried hard in this match, and they need this type of mentality against Barcelona in the second leg with the support of the Yellow Wall.
Well, in the next few hours they will return to compete in the Champions League with a very difficult task. Yes, they have to catch up on their deficit against Barcelona that occurred in the first leg.

There is no other choice for them but to play without any burden and play as well as possible. Whether or not they can turn things around will depend heavily on their luck in the match. I hope at least they can put up a meaningful fight.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 15, 2025, 08:37:24 PM
After being crushed by Barcelona in the Champions League, Borussia Dortmund managed to hold their rivals who are at the top of the standings to a draw this week. They were able to take home 1 point from Bayern Munich's headquarters.

Bayern Munich dominated the match but Borussia Dortmund were able to defend well and they were even able to score first. Then the situation turned around, but Borussia Dortmund were able to score another equalizer that lasted until the end.

When Dortmund was in better form and had better players, they lost 4-0 or 5-0. Now, they can make it 2-2. I think they have to be proud of that.
The Dortmund players have to take it one match at a time, give it everything, and then they will see how valuable this point was at the end.
They tried hard in this match, and they need this type of mentality against Barcelona in the second leg with the support of the Yellow Wall.
Well, in the next few hours they will return to compete in the Champions League with a very difficult task. Yes, they have to catch up on their deficit against Barcelona that occurred in the first leg.

There is no other choice for them but to play without any burden and play as well as possible. Whether or not they can turn things around will depend heavily on their luck in the match. I hope at least they can put up a meaningful fight.

I hope so... I can't wait to see how they perform. Hopefully, they can perform well at home.
A brave position is what is needed to create miracles, but Emre Can (muscle problem) and Carney Chukwuemeka (thigh knock) are not available for Dortmund anytime soon. So I won't bet on this game; I just want to enjoy the game.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Gurujebs on April 15, 2025, 08:46:20 PM
After being crushed by Barcelona in the Champions League, Borussia Dortmund managed to hold their rivals who are at the top of the standings to a draw this week. They were able to take home 1 point from Bayern Munich's headquarters.

Bayern Munich dominated the match but Borussia Dortmund were able to defend well and they were even able to score first. Then the situation turned around, but Borussia Dortmund were able to score another equalizer that lasted until the end.

Dortmund needs to focus on their league games in order to secure their position in the European competitions because they are already out the Champions League. They aren't the king of comeback in a major competition that we can expect to do better while hosting Barcelona, they were humiliated by conceding 4 goals.

However, Dortmund must give it their all in the remaining in the season, they can lose their chances to play in any European competition next season, they are currently in 8 positions, 6 away from the top four, and 3 points different from the conference qualifiers. I hope they do not miss the opportunity this season, since it would be a shame for a big club like Dortmund.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Sim_card on April 15, 2025, 10:48:39 PM
After being crushed by Barcelona in the Champions League, Borussia Dortmund managed to hold their rivals who are at the top of the standings to a draw this week. They were able to take home 1 point from Bayern Munich's headquarters.

Bayern Munich dominated the match but Borussia Dortmund were able to defend well and they were even able to score first. Then the situation turned around, but Borussia Dortmund were able to score another equalizer that lasted until the end.

Dortmund needs to focus on their league games in order to secure their position in the European competitions because they are already out the Champions League. They aren't the king of comeback in a major competition that we can expect to do better while hosting Barcelona, they were humiliated by conceding 4 goals.

However, Dortmund must give it their all in the remaining in the season, they can lose their chances to play in any European competition next season, they are currently in 8 positions, 6 away from the top four, and 3 points different from the conference qualifiers. I hope they do not miss the opportunity this season, since it would be a shame for a big club like Dortmund.
This season is a bad one for Dortmund because their performance declined drastically overtime. I hope that they can improve their performance and win a spot in European competition next season if not, they will only play in their domestic league.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on April 15, 2025, 11:48:58 PM
After being crushed by Barcelona in the Champions League, Borussia Dortmund managed to hold their rivals who are at the top of the standings to a draw this week. They were able to take home 1 point from Bayern Munich's headquarters.

Bayern Munich dominated the match but Borussia Dortmund were able to defend well and they were even able to score first. Then the situation turned around, but Borussia Dortmund were able to score another equalizer that lasted until the end.

Dortmund needs to focus on their league games in order to secure their position in the European competitions because they are already out the Champions League. They aren't the king of comeback in a major competition that we can expect to do better while hosting Barcelona, they were humiliated by conceding 4 goals.

However, Dortmund must give it their all in the remaining in the season, they can lose their chances to play in any European competition next season, they are currently in 8 positions, 6 away from the top four, and 3 points different from the conference qualifiers. I hope they do not miss the opportunity this season, since it would be a shame for a big club like Dortmund.
Evaluating the history and the identity of a club as giant as Dortmund, the current events did throw a dark shadow on many of its enthusiasts. When the positions are rarely seen before, concern always makes its way in, especially when the point region seems reachable at any given time. We are aware this club has been at a much better position, to which much of the recent results they have gotten suggest that some of their key pillar are unfavourable and at risk of being overthrown. It is not about the loss but how the team is competitive enough to face pressure that rises and falls like the ebb and flow of the ocean tides. If the mood in the dressing room becomes uninspiring then what is observed from the players will just be as uninspiring as it was in the dressing room. Maybe, it is not about the enemy anymore but what the enemy deems himself to be.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Gurujebs on April 15, 2025, 11:50:20 PM
Dortmund needs to focus on their league games in order to secure their position in the European competitions because they are already out the Champions League. They aren't the king of comeback in a major competition that we can expect to do better while hosting Barcelona, they were humiliated by conceding 4 goals.

However, Dortmund must give it their all in the remaining in the season, they can lose their chances to play in any European competition next season, they are currently in 8 positions, 6 away from the top four, and 3 points different from the conference qualifiers. I hope they do not miss the opportunity this season, since it would be a shame for a big club like Dortmund.
This season is a bad one for Dortmund because their performance declined drastically overtime. I hope that they can improve their performance and win a spot in European competition next season if not, they will only play in their domestic league.

I observed something about Dortmund performance this season, they only improved their game in the Champions League, but they lost league games against weak teams. Dortmund has turned to a average squad this season, with only 3 wins in their previous 6 league games. If they can finish in any European positions, Niko Kovac's job will be secure.

However, even their previous game against Bayern Munich, I didn't expect them to draw since they did not meet our expectations this season. This is not the Dortmund we've seen in the previous seasons, who have made it tough for Bayern Munich to maintain their league table position.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 16, 2025, 04:25:49 PM
Dortmund needs to focus on their league games in order to secure their position in the European competitions because they are already out the Champions League. They aren't the king of comeback in a major competition that we can expect to do better while hosting Barcelona, they were humiliated by conceding 4 goals.

However, Dortmund must give it their all in the remaining in the season, they can lose their chances to play in any European competition next season, they are currently in 8 positions, 6 away from the top four, and 3 points different from the conference qualifiers. I hope they do not miss the opportunity this season, since it would be a shame for a big club like Dortmund.
This season is a bad one for Dortmund because their performance declined drastically overtime. I hope that they can improve their performance and win a spot in European competition next season if not, they will only play in their domestic league.

I observed something about Dortmund performance this season, they only improved their game in the Champions League, but they lost league games against weak teams. Dortmund has turned to a average squad this season, with only 3 wins in their previous 6 league games. If they can finish in any European positions, Niko Kovac's job will be secure.

However, even their previous game against Bayern Munich, I didn't expect them to draw since they did not meet our expectations this season. This is not the Dortmund we've seen in the previous seasons, who have made it tough for Bayern Munich to maintain their league table position.

In the Champions League, I saw that the team finally gave everything. The second leg against Barcelona showed that the team is strong when the mindset is right.
After 2-0, I even started to believe that Dortmund could still do it.
Even though they failed to qualify, in the end, it was a crazy performance.
Making the fans, the stadium, and the team believe in miracles after a 0-4 defeat in the first leg was a huge success for Niko Kovac.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on April 16, 2025, 11:49:23 PM
And just like that, all German teams have finished their adventure in the Champions League. Dortmund got eliminated by Barcelona yesterday, and Bayern by Inter tonight.
But it's worth noting that both teams put up a really good fight in the 2nd leg. Who would have thought that Dortmund could beat Barcelona 3-1. Despite the massive advantage from the 1st leg and despite playing away, Barcelona was still the bookies' favourite to win the game, but Borussia refused to go down easily.

Bayern dominated in both games in terms of shots on goal and ball possession, but had a hard time converting. The luck was clearly not on their side, but they have nothing to be ashamed of. Reaching the quarter-finals of the most prestigious club cup is a success on its own.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on April 17, 2025, 05:44:32 PM
Even though they won, Borussia Dortmund had to be eliminated because they lost on aggregate goals.

But I still appreciate them, because with the defeat they got in the first leg, they still fought and were able to beat Barcelona in the second leg. Even though it was not enough, they were still able to work hard and not give up easily. Well, they can learn a lot from what they experienced in the Champions League.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on April 17, 2025, 11:06:21 PM
This weekend's round seems a bit boring with no exciting games between the top teams etc.
Heidenheim will be motivated by their willingness to escape relegation, and they will have a home-field advantage, but I don't expect them to earn any points on Bayern. Even a tired Bayern is still a level above them.
Similar thing with St Pauli Vs Leverkusen. I don't expect any surprise here either.

Borussia Dortmund Vs Borussia Mönchengladbach could be a fun game to watch. Despite being placed 8th at the moment, Dortmund is still within a range to even fight for the 4th place so they still have something to fight for. After beating Barcelona 3-1, the team's morale is probably high and they do tend to perform much better at home, so I expect 3 points for Dortmund.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 18, 2025, 12:59:36 AM
And just like that, all German teams have finished their adventure in the Champions League. Dortmund got eliminated by Barcelona yesterday, and Bayern by Inter tonight.
But it's worth noting that both teams put up a really good fight in the 2nd leg. Who would have thought that Dortmund could beat Barcelona 3-1. Despite the massive advantage from the 1st leg and despite playing away, Barcelona was still the bookies' favourite to win the game, but Borussia refused to go down easily.

Bayern dominated in both games in terms of shots on goal and ball possession, but had a hard time converting. The luck was clearly not on their side, but they have nothing to be ashamed of. Reaching the quarter-finals of the most prestigious club cup is a success on its own.

Bayern and Dortmund played a much better game than in the first leg, but in the end, it's not about giving everything, but turning it into a result, and Harry plain bottled once again. Bayern Munich is rapidly depleting the overseas fans they have accumulated over the past decades. lol
Good luck next season
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on April 18, 2025, 07:30:53 PM
This week Bayern Munich will get an easy opponent, they will face a team that is in a very unsafe zone, so they should be able to win easily.

They are also eliminated from the Champions League, so there is no reason for them not to focus on the Bundesliga. They must use this match to get a win so they can get the title early.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on April 20, 2025, 09:59:00 AM
This week Bayern Munich will get an easy opponent, they will face a team that is in a very unsafe zone, so they should be able to win easily.

They are also eliminated from the Champions League, so there is no reason for them not to focus on the Bundesliga. They must use this match to get a win so they can get the title early.
Even though I can see why you are considering this to be an easy game, I am approaching this a little differently. That is why sometimes teams that are in the bottom of the standings are capable of showing excellent performance when they no longer expect anything from themselves but a desperate desire to win. Bayern will definitely have more quality and longer rest but such games often produce surprises sometimes. However, the intensity of the game will depend on the mentality of the players and how much they would be able to keep it up all throughout the game. For example, if they treat the situation as some kind of formality, then there can always be a possibility of a mistake. In my view they can still clinch the title but they must be extra cautious.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 20, 2025, 03:24:45 PM

Borussia Dortmund Vs Borussia Mönchengladbach could be a fun game to watch. Despite being placed 8th at the moment, Dortmund is still within a range to even fight for the 4th place so they still have something to fight for. After beating Barcelona 3-1, the team's morale is probably high and they do tend to perform much better at home, so I expect 3 points for Dortmund.

Dortmund need a win today. No excuses!
A home win is a must for Dortmund if they want to play in the Champions League next season, they are currently 7 points behind 4th place.
Last chance for a potential UCL qualification. The players must go all out and grab this chance.
Niko Kovac must win this game for the fans and Show the same attitude as against Barca.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on April 20, 2025, 06:00:15 PM
This week Bayern Munich will get an easy opponent, they will face a team that is in a very unsafe zone, so they should be able to win easily.

They are also eliminated from the Champions League, so there is no reason for them not to focus on the Bundesliga. They must use this match to get a win so they can get the title early.
Even though I can see why you are considering this to be an easy game, I am approaching this a little differently. That is why sometimes teams that are in the bottom of the standings are capable of showing excellent performance when they no longer expect anything from themselves but a desperate desire to win. Bayern will definitely have more quality and longer rest but such games often produce surprises sometimes. However, the intensity of the game will depend on the mentality of the players and how much they would be able to keep it up all throughout the game. For example, if they treat the situation as some kind of formality, then there can always be a possibility of a mistake. In my view they can still clinch the title but they must be extra cautious.
I can also understand what you mean, because it's not just once or twice that we see a team that is not even considered at all can actually make a big surprise.

But in this match Bayern Munich successfully did their job very well, they won with a landslide score, 4 goals without reply. This is not something surprising because I think many people have predicted it.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on April 21, 2025, 11:40:59 AM
Leverkusen looked pale yesterday against St Pauli and have buried their chances of defending the championship. They couldn't dominate the game, went defensive after taking the lead but that backfired on them.
Now the gap between them and Bayern is 8 points (with Bayern having much better goal difference), with 4 games to go. Their 2nd place is not threatened, as the gap between Leverkusen and the 3rd Eintracht is 12 points.
The real battle will be fought for the 4th spot, the last one that grants participation in the Champions League. Dortmund is pressing hard, they did a good job yesterday by defeating Moenchengladbach. Out of the outstanding 4 games Dortmund have to play, 3 are fairly easy, against teams from the bottom of the table, and one is an away game against Leverkusen, but, at that stage, Leverkusen will have nothing left to play for, so they might go easy and let Dortmund win.
I expect Dortmund to finish in the top 5.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 22, 2025, 12:20:48 PM
Leverkusen looked pale yesterday against St Pauli and have buried their chances of defending the championship. They couldn't dominate the game, went defensive after taking the lead but that backfired on them.
Now the gap between them and Bayern is 8 points (with Bayern having much better goal difference), with 4 games to go. Their 2nd place is not threatened, as the gap between Leverkusen and the 3rd Eintracht is 12 points.
The real battle will be fought for the 4th spot, the last one that grants participation in the Champions League. Dortmund is pressing hard, they did a good job yesterday by defeating Moenchengladbach. Out of the outstanding 4 games Dortmund have to play, 3 are fairly easy, against teams from the bottom of the table, and one is an away game against Leverkusen, but, at that stage, Leverkusen will have nothing left to play for, so they might go easy and let Dortmund win.
I expect Dortmund to finish in the top 5.

I think the league is over and Bayern win the title...
New blood must be injected. Chelsea want to get rid of Nkunku, this is an opportunity for Leverkusen, go ahead. Plus Cherki from Lyon.
Inter want to get rid of de Vrij, he would be a good replacement for Jona.
But Leverkusen don't seem to want to spend a lot of money. So I think they will bring in some less big names and that's okay. It doesn't always have to be a lot of money, but it has to be reasonable
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 23, 2025, 03:50:39 PM
But in this match Bayern Munich successfully did their job very well, they won with a landslide score, 4 goals without reply. This is not something surprising because I think many people have predicted it.
I also think so, for me Bayern this time want to do everything right, win the Budensliga and also be among the best in the Club World Cup which is the other thing that is pending, so in view of these things it can be intuited that Leverkusen will have a very difficult time reaching them, their last game or drew, so I don't think they will be a pursuer that will not let them respect, I think that this time Kane will finally be able to achieve victories.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on April 24, 2025, 05:25:51 PM
Leverkusen are not as scary as last season, they are still quite good this season, but they are starting to have problems where other teams can bring the strategy they apply.

In the last week they had to share points when facing ST Pauli and this is their last 2 consecutive draws. Next season, I want to see them more ready to give competition to Bayern Munich again.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on April 24, 2025, 09:24:53 PM
I can't believe we're only 4 rounds away from the end of the season. Time flies.
This weekend, things are stacked pretty nicely for Borussia Dortmund. They are playing away against Hoffenheim, a team from the bottom of the table, which is placed quite safely above the relegation zone (8 points buffer from the 16th place), so it's Borussia who should be more determined to win.
At the same time, few teams ranked above Dortmund are underdogs in their games and are likely to lose some points: Leipzig is playing away against Eintracht, Mainz is playing away against Bayern and Freiburg is playing away against Wolfsburg (this one should be an even game, with Wolfsburg being a very slight favourite).

After a pretty horrible season, I'd like to see Dortmund finishing in style and making it to the top 4. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: debra on April 24, 2025, 11:39:53 PM
Leverkusen are not as scary as last season, they are still quite good this season, but they are starting to have problems where other teams can bring the strategy they apply.

In the last week they had to share points when facing ST Pauli and this is their last 2 consecutive draws. Next season, I want to see them more ready to give competition to Bayern Munich again.
Leverkusen has been declining their performance in this season. They got too many draws, they have got 10 draws until now. I think the main problems of this team that they have no strong attackers, they only have strong defenders and midfielders. Xabi seems too confident with his team, so he isn't aware of the weakness.

In the next season, Leverkusen must have stronger attackers if they want to challenge Bayern Munich. Honestly, there is no good strikers, there is no quality wingers. Leverkusen only has Florian Wirtz as a quality player in their attacking line.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 25, 2025, 11:08:28 AM
I can't believe we're only 4 rounds away from the end of the season. Time flies.
This weekend, things are stacked pretty nicely for Borussia Dortmund. They are playing away against Hoffenheim, a team from the bottom of the table, which is placed quite safely above the relegation zone (8 points buffer from the 16th place), so it's Borussia who should be more determined to win.
At the same time, few teams ranked above Dortmund are underdogs in their games and are likely to lose some points: Leipzig is playing away against Eintracht, Mainz is playing away against Bayern and Freiburg is playing away against Wolfsburg (this one should be an even game, with Wolfsburg being a very slight favourite).

After a pretty horrible season, I'd like to see Dortmund finishing in style and making it to the top 4. Fingers crossed.

In Kovac's period in charge, Dortmund were second in Expected Points, third in XGA, and second in XG in the Bundesliga.
He took over in 11th place and led Dortmund to 7th place, with a chance of reaching the Champions League, which was unimaginable when he was hired.
Niko Kovac will likely be Borussia Dortmund's coach next season. The team is playing more attractive football again. This development should be continued. The board likes his work.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: $crypto$ on April 25, 2025, 05:56:06 PM
Leverkusen are not as scary as last season, they are still quite good this season, but they are starting to have problems where other teams can bring the strategy they apply.

In the last week they had to share points when facing ST Pauli and this is their last 2 consecutive draws. Next season, I want to see them more ready to give competition to Bayern Munich again.
Leverkusen has been declining their performance in this season. They got too many draws, they have got 10 draws until now. I think the main problems of this team that they have no strong attackers, they only have strong defenders and midfielders. Xabi seems too confident with his team, so he isn't aware of the weakness.

In the next season, Leverkusen must have stronger attackers if they want to challenge Bayern Munich. Honestly, there is no good strikers, there is no quality wingers. Leverkusen only has Florian Wirtz as a quality player in their attacking line.
Yes I agree, they didn't bring in many new players and still trust most of the players who brought them the title last season. That's not wrong, but it also creates weaknesses that are starting to be realized by their opponents.

I think now Xabi has also realized that and when they are in the next season and Xabi is still in this team, I think he will make some changes including the players he will bring in.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on April 25, 2025, 11:24:41 PM
Many have already announced Borussia Dortmund as the biggest disappointment of the current season, but that was premature. Dortmund pulled themselves together and are still in the fight for the Champions League places, while that inglorious title should go to Stuttgart, who today lost at home to Heidenheim after Mathias Honsak scored the only goal in the 89th minute.
Stuttgart ended the last season in 2nd place, with one point above Bayern, so the expectations were set high for them this season, but they failed to advance from the UCL league stage and things are not looking much better in the Bundesliga.
They still have mathematical chances of finishing in European Cup places, but it doesn't look like they are even trying, with only one win in the last 5 league matches.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on April 26, 2025, 02:15:04 PM
But in this match Bayern Munich successfully did their job very well, they won with a landslide score, 4 goals without reply. This is not something surprising because I think many people have predicted it.
I also think so, for me Bayern this time want to do everything right, win the Budensliga and also be among the best in the Club World Cup which is the other thing that is pending, so in view of these things it can be intuited that Leverkusen will have a very difficult time reaching them, their last game or drew, so I don't think they will be a pursuer that will not let them respect, I think that this time Kane will finally be able to achieve victories.
Kane has a great chance to end his career with a trophy, meaning that the long wait he has been waiting for to win a title will most likely happen this season.

Believe it or not, when many people say he is a curse will disappear when he can actually win a title. And I'm sure there will be many people who congratulate him for his long wait and moreover he also deserves it.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on April 26, 2025, 11:41:14 PM
Dortmund didn't disappoint. They struggled a bit against Hoffenheim, and needed 5 minutes of the stoppage time to score the winning goal, but a win is a win.
They are now 6th in the table, they overtook Mainz and got closer to Leipzig, who got demolished 4-0 by Eintracht. They are still 3 points behind the 4th Freiburg, but Freiburg is playing Leverkusen next, so there's a chance they could catch up with them.

Bayern defeated Mainz easily 3-0. They are playing an away game against Leipzig next weekend, and they will have a chance to secure their championship. They either need a win, if Leverkusen also wins, but if Leverkusen loses points against Freiburg, Bayern will celebrate regardless of the result of their Leipzig match.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: UNIVERSE on April 26, 2025, 11:59:24 PM
Kane has a great chance to end his career with a trophy, meaning that the long wait he has been waiting for to win a title will most likely happen this season.

Believe it or not, when many people say he is a curse will disappear when he can actually win a title. And I'm sure there will be many people who congratulate him for his long wait and moreover he also deserves it.
This season, Bayern Munich will win the Bundesliga trophy and Kane will be the top scorer. This is a great season for Kane, he will win a trophy and be the most influential player in Bayern Munich. I think he won't end his career very soon, he will continue to be a football player for the next few years. I really hope Kane will end his career with an UCL trophy.

There is no a curse. Kane proves that he can win a prestigious trophy. When he moved to Bayern Munich, it was surely the right decision. He will never win any trophy with his previous club.

Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pieppiep on April 27, 2025, 07:53:00 AM
This season, Bayern Munich will win the Bundesliga trophy and Kane will be the top scorer. This is a great season for Kane, he will win a trophy and be the most influential player in Bayern Munich. I think he won't end his career very soon, he will continue to be a football player for the next few years. I really hope Kane will end his career with an UCL trophy.

There is no a curse. Kane proves that he can win a prestigious trophy. When he moved to Bayern Munich, it was surely the right decision. He will never win any trophy with his previous club.
I also want to mention that not only Kane has an excellent season, he is creating history. He has enjoyed his time at Bayern because there he is given credit for the kind of player he is and his dreams are given an avenue to be fulfilled. In how he plays there is this sense that there is new confidence that makes even more menacing than before. This is the first step to new successes and getting the Bundesliga title may awaken more ambitions in him and I am certain that with desire he wants to win the Champions League. It will therefore be my testimony, supported by the case of Kane that the bold moves are always most advantageous in the long run.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Amug123 on April 27, 2025, 01:17:16 PM
This season, Bayern Munich will win the Bundesliga trophy and Kane will be the top scorer. This is a great season for Kane, he will win a trophy and be the most influential player in Bayern Munich. I think he won't end his career very soon, he will continue to be a football player for the next few years. I really hope Kane will end his career with an UCL trophy.

There is no a curse. Kane proves that he can win a prestigious trophy. When he moved to Bayern Munich, it was surely the right decision. He will never win any trophy with his previous club.
I also want to mention that not only Kane has an excellent season, he is creating history. He has enjoyed his time at Bayern because there he is given credit for the kind of player he is and his dreams are given an avenue to be fulfilled. In how he plays there is this sense that there is new confidence that makes even more menacing than before. This is the first step to new successes and getting the Bundesliga title may awaken more ambitions in him and I am certain that with desire he wants to win the Champions League. It will therefore be my testimony, supported by the case of Kane that the bold moves are always most advantageous in the long run.
Bayern Munich performance so far shows that they are on track for a potential Bundesliga win. Which would be a great achievement for Harry Kane. Lerverkusen's recent point drop against st pauli has actually brought Bayern more closer in securing the title. Kane influence in the team is undeniable and it's visible for all to see his contribution towards every game. Wining this prestigious title would be proof to his skills, his goal scoring ability has been instrumental in Bayern Munich success.  I think his move to Bayern Munich seems to have been a great decision.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on April 27, 2025, 01:30:11 PM
Kane has a great chance to end his career with a trophy, meaning that the long wait he has been waiting for to win a title will most likely happen this season.

Believe it or not, when many people say he is a curse will disappear when he can actually win a title. And I'm sure there will be many people who congratulate him for his long wait and moreover he also deserves it.
This season, Bayern Munich will win the Bundesliga trophy and Kane will be the top scorer. This is a great season for Kane, he will win a trophy and be the most influential player in Bayern Munich. I think he won't end his career very soon, he will continue to be a football player for the next few years. I really hope Kane will end his career with an UCL trophy.

There is no a curse. Kane proves that he can win a prestigious trophy. When he moved to Bayern Munich, it was surely the right decision. He will never win any trophy with his previous club.
Since his old team he also proved himself as an individual and won individual titles, but he only lacked titles in a team where his previous teams always failed.

Yes I also agree, there is no curse. But I mean some people say that, especially when Bayern Munich failed to become champions last season which was the first time in more than a decade and at the same time it was Kane's first season with Bayern Munich.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: pawel7777 on April 27, 2025, 11:25:19 PM
Regarding Dortmund's chances for the 4th place:
Freiburg is almost guaranteed to lose at least one game as they are playing against Leverkusen and Eintracht.
Leipzig is playing against Bayern, so also likely to lose points.

Dortmund has a big chance of jumping into the 4th place, but the big question is whether Leverkusen will play at their 100% and if not, will they also go easy on Freiburg?
There are some theories that some clubs sometimes give other teams favours and expect them to return them later. Also, from the wider Bundesliga perspective, having Dortmund in the Champions League instead of Freiburg or Leipzig is much more preferred for German football as a whole.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: Asiska02 on April 27, 2025, 11:37:18 PM
I also want to mention that not only Kane has an excellent season, he is creating history. He has enjoyed his time at Bayern because there he is given credit for the kind of player he is and his dreams are given an avenue to be fulfilled. In how he plays there is this sense that there is new confidence that makes even more menacing than before. This is the first step to new successes and getting the Bundesliga title may awaken more ambitions in him and I am certain that with desire he wants to win the Champions League. It will therefore be my testimony, supported by the case of Kane that the bold moves are always most advantageous in the long run.

This season, Kane happen to be one of the most important player that Bayern Munich has and he has done his own part well to see the team going to win the Bundesliga trophy. This will also be his first time to win a trophy in his career despite being a top striker in the premier league for a long time. This will be the most joyous day for him in his career. It is hard to see such a great player till his age without winning any trophy yet, but we’ve seen in with Kane who is his thirties already if not more. This will be the best time for Bayern Munich’s new manager, Vincent Kompany also to make a good start to his career, his debut season happen to be the season he won his first trophy and this is a well commendable one for him.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 29, 2025, 07:30:39 AM
Regarding Dortmund's chances for the 4th place:
Freiburg is almost guaranteed to lose at least one game as they are playing against Leverkusen and Eintracht.
Leipzig is playing against Bayern, so also likely to lose points.

Dortmund has a big chance of jumping into the 4th place, but the big question is whether Leverkusen will play at their 100% and if not, will they also go easy on Freiburg?
There are some theories that some clubs sometimes give other teams favours and expect them to return them later. Also, from the wider Bundesliga perspective, having Dortmund in the Champions League instead of Freiburg or Leipzig is much more preferred for German football as a whole.

Dortmund are finding their way again under Niko Kovač. They are finally back on track! Kovač is doing a solid job so far.
Dortmund seem to have bounced back, If Kovac can keep up this momentum, they might just shake things up in the Bundesliga.
The best approach the team can take in treating every match is as a final! The absolute monster mode mentality of the team...
I can't emphasise that enough and I think it's partly true. I hope that this is a step in the right direction for Dortmund.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 29, 2025, 06:15:32 PM
Believe it or not, when many people say he is a curse will disappear when he can actually win a title. And I'm sure there will be many people who congratulate him for his long wait and moreover he also deserves it.
The truth is I wish Kane had his good opportunity to win not only the Budapest League but many more competitions, what they talk about the curse is something that can be removed, everything in this life can be achieved, and it is already starting to materialize, so in view of these things the Bundesliga is being very interesting, not only Bayern, we also see the great progress of Leverkusen and speaking of Leverkusen it is very likely that Xabi will leave the team to go to Madrid, in any case we will have to wait.
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: koang on April 30, 2025, 10:48:43 AM
Believe it or not, when many people say he is a curse will disappear when he can actually win a title. And I'm sure there will be many people who congratulate him for his long wait and moreover he also deserves it.
The truth is I wish Kane had his good opportunity to win not only the Budapest League but many more competitions, what they talk about the curse is something that can be removed, everything in this life can be achieved, and it is already starting to materialize, so in view of these things the Bundesliga is being very interesting, not only Bayern, we also see the great progress of Leverkusen and speaking of Leverkusen it is very likely that Xabi will leave the team to go to Madrid, in any case we will have to wait.

Xabi Alonso to Real Madrid feels like a perfect fit!
It's time to change things up at Madrid. Ancelotti is not the type of coach to do that.
Let him come and line up the same players (Mbappé, Vini Jr, and Rodrigo). At least the Madrid players will have no excuses for seeing that it is not the coach but rather the playing squad that is very bad.
And I think Leverkusen will not stand in Xabi’s way. So let's see...
Title: Re: ⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽
Post by: ajiz138 on April 30, 2025, 01:53:02 PM
Believe it or not, when many people say he is a curse will disappear when he can actually win a title. And I'm sure there will be many people who congratulate him for his long wait and moreover he also deserves it.
The truth is I wish Kane had his good opportunity to win not only the Budapest League but many more competitions, what they talk about the curse is something that can be removed, everything in this life can be achieved, and it is already starting to materialize, so in view of these things the Bundesliga is being very interesting, not only Bayern, we also see the great progress of Leverkusen and speaking of Leverkusen it is very likely that Xabi will leave the team to go to Madrid, in any case we will have to wait.
With the ability he has, I agree he should be able to get something bigger, but the problem is this is a team effort and it can't be pursued alone.

But what is clear is that this is a good step of course, a little late indeed, especially when he was late to choose to leave Tottenham because actually the opportunity was always there but he preferred every previous team.