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I created this thread to discuss everything about boxing, schedule fights, odds and prediction. Might be good to have just one thread in this community. It might not be very big as the other forum, but as we grow maybe this thread will also move as there could be a lot of boxing fans around this forum.
https://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-vs-buakaw-banchamek-exhibition-fight-set-april-20--180341
A date has been set down for the exhibition fight between Manny Pacquiao and Buakaw Banchamek.
According to the Banchamek Gym Facebook page, the date of April 20 has been finalized. The event is being organized by Thailand’s Fresh Air Festival Co Ltd and cinema operator SF Corporation.
The bout will be fought under traditional boxing rules.
So we will have the legendary Manny Pacquiao against another legend in Buakaw scheduled for April 20 this year.
Obviously, Manny will have the advantage here as the rules will be boxing and we all know that Manny during his prime is one of the best and always in the discussion for the GOAT.
Any thoughts on this fight?
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Did you guys see odds released on Francis Ngannou next boxing fight against Anthony Joshua?
They made Ngannou look like a total underdog and I think he is going to love this, so expect even better performance from him.
I am not sure if he can win with boxing refs against him again, but I know that Joshua is not as good as Tyson Fury.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/joshua-anthony-v-ngannou-francis-65988f077c9c2400015fdb47
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Did you guys see odds released on Francis Ngannou next boxing fight against Anthony Joshua?
They made Ngannou look like a total underdog and I think he is going to love this, so expect even better performance from him.
I am not sure if he can win with boxing refs against him again, but I know that Joshua is not as good as Tyson Fury.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/joshua-anthony-v-ngannou-francis-65988f077c9c2400015fdb47
Yes mate, thanks for posting it here, not sure what sports bookies was thinking when they gave that odds to Joshua and making Ngannou again a huge underdog in this fight. I know that they have been doing a great job on making odds but Ngannou shows that he can box and even knock down Fury. And if you look at Joshua's history, he doesn't have a good chin to begin with.
So just imagine if Ngannou hit Joshua with his power, I'm not seeing Joshua can recover from it as compare to Fury who can recover and regain his consciousness right away.
But in any case if sports bookies are right again then betting on Joshua at ML is not attractive to us.
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So just imagine if Ngannou hit Joshua with his power, I'm not seeing Joshua can recover from it as compare to Fury who can recover and regain his consciousness right away.
Ngannou can hurt him for sure, but it would be sensational if he manages to beat him somehow.
To be realistic I have to say that only way for him to win for sure is with a KO, because refs are not going to give him win with points easily.
No matter how this fight ends, Ngannou earned more money from his last two fights than what he totally earned in MMA and from junky Dana White in UFC.
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So just imagine if Ngannou hit Joshua with his power, I'm not seeing Joshua can recover from it as compare to Fury who can recover and regain his consciousness right away.
Ngannou can hurt him for sure, but it would be sensational if he manages to beat him somehow.
To be realistic I have to say that only way for him to win for sure is with a KO, because refs are not going to give him win with points easily.
No matter how this fight ends, Ngannou earned more money from his last two fights than what he totally earned in MMA and from junky Dana White in UFC.
Speaking of money, yes it's true he will earned more money that he did in his entire career in UFC. It was reported that in the Fury fight alone, he earn $10 million plus others, like PPV numbers.
And in this fight, reports says that might be bigger than that, $10-$20 million for him.
We all know that the major sponsor here is Saudi, and we all know that oil rich country doesn't care about the money. So maybe there are some truth about the numbers that we are seeing about this fight, Joshua about $50 million ++.
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To be realistic I have to say that only way for him to win for sure is with a KO, because refs are not going to give him win with points easily.
You are probably referring to the judges and not the refs. Judges controls the scoring unless the ref deducts a point off Ngannou but that unlikely to happen since he's not a dirty fighter. However, the ref could change the outcome of the fight in other ways like prolonging the count if Francis knocks down Anthony.
About the fight odds, I think the huge underdog is just about right. Everybody knows what he looks like in the boxing ring now and what he's capable of. There is no longer an element of surprise there unlike when he fought Fury.
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it wouldn't be surprising if Francis is now the favorite of bookmakers. he did knock down Fury, only a few had done it despite him not in boxing. some people have speculated Francis to win that fight though, the man is in combat sports for a long time so he does know how to box. he could win this time with AJ, if Francis can fight up to 10th round with the best HW in boxing, he can extend it to 12.
Francis career had changed for good after he got out of UFC, his 2nd fight proves he making big bucks. In FFury fight alone it was said he earn 10M.
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it wouldn't be surprising if Francis is now the favorite of bookmakers. he did knock down Fury, only a few had done it despite him not in boxing. some people have speculated Francis to win that fight though, the man is in combat sports for a long time so he does know how to box. he could win this time with AJ, if Francis can fight up to 10th round with the best HW in boxing, he can extend it to 12.
Francis career had changed for good after he got out of UFC, his 2nd fight proves he making big bucks. In FFury fight alone it was said he earn 10M.
Unfortunately it's not the case though, I just browse Stake and this is the odds as per ML,
Joshua - 1.20
Ngannou - 4.20
And so even with Francis performance against Fury, he is still a big underdog here, 4:1 against Joshua. But that's for those odd makers, but for us who have seen Francis performance, we might give him a good chance here, maybe we think it will be a 50/50 fight as Francis has a big power and we all know that AJ can't take punches very well and we might see that if Ngannou landed one of his power punches on the chin of Joshua it could be a knockout and one of the best upset this year.
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it wouldn't be surprising if Francis is now the favorite of bookmakers. he did knock down Fury, only a few had done it despite him not in boxing. some people have speculated Francis to win that fight though, the man is in combat sports for a long time so he does know how to box. he could win this time with AJ, if Francis can fight up to 10th round with the best HW in boxing, he can extend it to 12.
Francis career had changed for good after he got out of UFC, his 2nd fight proves he making big bucks. In FFury fight alone it was said he earn 10M.
Unfortunately it's not the case though, I just browse Stake and this is the odds as per ML,
Joshua - 1.20
Ngannou - 4.20
And so even with Francis performance against Fury, he is still a big underdog here, 4:1 against Joshua. But that's for those odd makers, but for us who have seen Francis performance, we might give him a good chance here, maybe we think it will be a 50/50 fight as Francis has a big power and we all know that AJ can't take punches very well and we might see that if Ngannou landed one of his power punches on the chin of Joshua it could be a knockout and one of the best upset this year.
bookmakers still under rate Francis despite how he executed his previous fight. its a good chance to win big by rooting for Francis. by having same game plan when he fought Fury, Francis could win.
the thought of Frank getting KOed is possible though. AJ still is far experienced in boxing and he fought hard boxers, having the balls to fight Usyk makes him a standup guy. among the HW, he surely fought the tough guys above him.
i would probably go for Ngannou, Francis By Decision 16.00 with a small amount.
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We have a upcoming fight this weekend, between Arthur Beterbiev vs Callum Smith.
They already make the official weigh-in here:
Beterbiev - 1.23
Smith - 3.95
I think this will not go to the judges scorecard as Beterbiev possesses a knockout power. I'm predicting that maybe 8-10 rounds that Beterbiev will score a referee stoppage or knocking down Smith to win.
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^^ Fight is over, the corner of Callum Smith stop the fight are round 7, because their boxer is taking too much punishment from Beterbiev. And with this one it cemented Arthur's status as one of the best LHW in the division.
But he has another one to beat and that is Dmitri Bivol who has a belt as well. In the post fight interview, he said that he wanted to fight Bivol for unification. So it's good thing that we hear it from him. But still depends on how their respective managers are going to negotiate. Nevertheless we do hope that this can happen this year.
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There is a upcoming fight between Loma and Kambosos,
Vasiliy Lomachenko and George Kambosos Jr. will fight a little later than anticipated, but their lightweight championship clash will still take place in Kambosos’ home country of Australia.
https://www.boxingscene.com/vasiliy-lomachenko-george-kambosos-deal-done-512-perth-moloneys-on-undercard--180712
This fight is supposed to happen before, but it's good to see that finally they are going to fight and will go for the IBF 135 lbs.
Who do you think will win this fight?
I have Loma winning in a unanimous decision here.
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There is a upcoming fight between Loma and Kambosos,
Vasiliy Lomachenko and George Kambosos Jr. will fight a little later than anticipated, but their lightweight championship clash will still take place in Kambosos’ home country of Australia.
https://www.boxingscene.com/vasiliy-lomachenko-george-kambosos-deal-done-512-perth-moloneys-on-undercard--180712
This fight is supposed to happen before, but it's good to see that finally they are going to fight and will go for the IBF 135 lbs.
Who do you think will win this fight?
I have Loma winning in a unanimous decision here.
why do it have to be in IBF, there's WBO which the champ is also vacant. loma is getting old though, its a risky bet to root for him. 5 years ago would have been a better loma but now its like of a 50/50 chance.
he can last the 12 rounds that for sure but so is kambosos. loma can absorb kambosos' punch without prob. so this fight can play out like stealing rounds every time there just 10 seconds left.
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There is a upcoming fight between Loma and Kambosos,
Vasiliy Lomachenko and George Kambosos Jr. will fight a little later than anticipated, but their lightweight championship clash will still take place in Kambosos’ home country of Australia.
https://www.boxingscene.com/vasiliy-lomachenko-george-kambosos-deal-done-512-perth-moloneys-on-undercard--180712
This fight is supposed to happen before, but it's good to see that finally they are going to fight and will go for the IBF 135 lbs.
Who do you think will win this fight?
I have Loma winning in a unanimous decision here.
why do it have to be in IBF, there's WBO which the champ is also vacant. loma is getting old though, its a risky bet to root for him. 5 years ago would have been a better loma but now its like of a 50/50 chance.
he can last the 12 rounds that for sure but so is kambosos. loma can absorb kambosos' punch without prob. so this fight can play out like stealing rounds every time there just 10 seconds left.
I assumed it's not financially wise for Loma to fight for the WBO belt, who is the WBO number 2? Denys Berinchyk? We haven't heard of this fighter before. But with the IBF, it's Kambosos their number 2 and then Loma number 3.
Besides it's all money for Top Rank, and so it make sense for them to go with this fight and I think IBF is fine with it obviously. Perhaps if Loma will win this fight, he can go after the WBO belt. But for now, financial and business wise, it make sense for this two to go for the IBF belt first.
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This is the promo for the Usyk vs Fury fight,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/19/3p3eo.png)
Undercards are also in, but fans are complaining because it's not as good as we expected.
Joe Cordina vs. Anthony Cacace
Sergey Kovalev vs. Robin Sirwan
Isaac Lowe vs. Hasibullah Ahmadi
Moses Itauma vs. TBA Bakhodir
Jalolov vs. TBA
David Nyika vs. TBA
So its obvious that this fighters are no name. They made a very poor choices of fighter to put as their undercard in this big fight.
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it wouldn't be surprising if Francis is now the favorite of bookmakers. he did knock down Fury, only a few had done it despite him not in boxing. some people have speculated Francis to win that fight though, the man is in combat sports for a long time so he does know how to box. he could win this time with AJ, if Francis can fight up to 10th round with the best HW in boxing, he can extend it to 12.
Francis career had changed for good after he got out of UFC, his 2nd fight proves he making big bucks. In FFury fight alone it was said he earn 10M.
Unfortunately it's not the case though, I just browse Stake and this is the odds as per ML,
Joshua - 1.20
Ngannou - 4.20
And so even with Francis performance against Fury, he is still a big underdog here, 4:1 against Joshua. But that's for those odd makers, but for us who have seen Francis performance, we might give him a good chance here, maybe we think it will be a 50/50 fight as Francis has a big power and we all know that AJ can't take punches very well and we might see that if Ngannou landed one of his power punches on the chin of Joshua it could be a knockout and one of the best upset this year.
bookmakers still under rate Francis despite how he executed his previous fight. its a good chance to win big by rooting for Francis. by having same game plan when he fought Fury, Francis could win.
the thought of Frank getting KOed is possible though. AJ still is far experienced in boxing and he fought hard boxers, having the balls to fight Usyk makes him a standup guy. among the HW, he surely fought the tough guys above him.
i would probably go for Ngannou, Francis By Decision 16.00 with a small amount.
I do agree that bookmakers are underestimating Francis capability to pull an upset. But for us bettors who think that Ngannou has a good chance, then maybe it's good to bet on him at ML.
But if you are looking for more attractive odds, yeah, why not Francis by decision as this is a long shot.
Because I do believed that if Francis if going to win, it will be a KO victory and Joshua winning could be via decision.
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Because I do believed that if Francis if going to win, it will be a KO victory and Joshua winning could be via decision.
Also agree that Francis's chance of winning this fight is through a knockout because he is more heavy-handed than Joshua I think and he might throw more bombs than AJ which in my opinion will be very careful on this one. AJ's confidence might be back but he will be extra cautious as to not suffer a devastating knockout to an MMA fighter hehe.
BTW, good to be here. One question though, how to become a legendary on this forum? What's needed, Karma? Have not explored much as of this moment but definitely, i will be staying a lot on this forum from now on.
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Because I do believed that if Francis if going to win, it will be a KO victory and Joshua winning could be via decision.
Also agree that Francis's chance of winning this fight is through a knockout because he is more heavy-handed than Joshua I think and he might throw more bombs than AJ which in my opinion will be very careful on this one. AJ's confidence might be back but he will be extra cautious as to not suffer a devastating knockout to an MMA fighter hehe.
Yes, and that's why we enjoyed seeing though, a knockout in a fight. AJ chin has been tested already and so he has to protect it. And we have seen the power of Ngannou from his UFC days and it's proven in boxing when he knock down Fury.
So everything is based on his power right now, if that landed, then AJ will be in trouble. And I don't think that AJ can boxed the full 12 rounds, he will get tired doing it and that will be that small opening that Francis might have to look.
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So it's becoming clearer now that the indefinite suspension of Luis Nery will be lifted by the Japanese Boxing Commission as the planned of holding this Inoue vs Nery fight is also becoming clearer. Don't know where they held the Tapales fight but this Nery fight is planned to be held in Tokyo Dome which i think could accommodate more audience and of course, more people means more revenue.
https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-luis-nery-122-pound-championship-clash-planned-6-tokyo-dome--180939
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So it's becoming clearer now that the indefinite suspension of Luis Nery will be lifted by the Japanese Boxing Commission as the planned of holding this Inoue vs Nery fight is also becoming clearer. Don't know where they held the Tapales fight but this Nery fight is planned to be held in Tokyo Dome which i think could accommodate more audience and of course, more people means more revenue.
https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-luis-nery-122-pound-championship-clash-planned-6-tokyo-dome--180939
Yes, mate it's official now, Nery's supposedly lifetime ban is lifted because he will be fighting Japan's number fighter in Inoue. So that JBC will have to adjust to their own rule against Nery and now will allow him to fight in Japan again.
I think the fight between Tapales vs Inoue is held on Saitama. The usual venue for Japanese fights, but it seems that they could be looking for bigger venues for Inoue moving forward.
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Weigh in for Munguia vs Ryder
Main event tomorrow night in Phoenix Arizona, WBC Silver Middleweight champion.
Munguia - 167.8 lbs
Ryder - 167.8 lbs
Going to be some spectacle in this fight, both are looking for a good payday next, maybe against the champion in Canelo or another young prospect in Berlanga.
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Weigh in for Munguia vs Ryder
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Main event tomorrow night in Phoenix Arizona, WBC Silver Middleweight champion.
Munguia - 167.8 lbs
Ryder - 167.8 lbs
Going to be some spectacle in this fight, both are looking for a good payday next, maybe against the champion in Canelo or another young prospect in Berlanga.
I thought at first that Ryder is the favorite but after browsing on my favorite sportsbook, it turns out that Munguia is the favorite to win of the two.
Yup, the winner will have a lucrative payday ahead of them if the winner will Canelo but i doubt it would happen sooner as Canelo got a plan of his own and both fighters are not on his hit list.
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Weigh in for Munguia vs Ryder
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Main event tomorrow night in Phoenix Arizona, WBC Silver Middleweight champion.
Munguia - 167.8 lbs
Ryder - 167.8 lbs
Going to be some spectacle in this fight, both are looking for a good payday next, maybe against the champion in Canelo or another young prospect in Berlanga.
I thought at first that Ryder is the favorite but after browsing on my favorite sportsbook, it turns out that Munguia is the favorite to win of the two.
Yup, the winner will have a lucrative payday ahead of them if the winner will Canelo but i doubt it would happen sooner as Canelo got a plan of his own and both fighters are not on his hit list.
Yes, it's the young boxer who is the favorite, but we all know that Ryder has good chance and being the undercard it could motivate him more. Munguia is the up and coming star of this division and that's why you will hear them saying that Canelo is their target.
It's true that Canelo has plans, even bigger than Munguia like Benavidez, but it seems that Canelo at least for now are not looking at it.
(Good to see you here mate getting active as well) ;D
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Jaime Munguia dominated John Ryder as he stops him in 9th round. He scored 4 knockdown in this fight. But for me I think Munguia is still raw, although he is working with coach Freddie in this fight, there are still a lot of room to improved.
But he has time, he is still very young.
As for Ryder, he said that he will retire if he lose in this fight. It's just bad match up from him. Munguia has power in both hands and good chin as he is not affected by the power jabs of Ryder.
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Jaime Munguia dominated John Ryder as he stops him in 9th round. He scored 4 knockdown in this fight. But for me I think Munguia is still raw, although he is working with coach Freddie in this fight, there are still a lot of room to improved.
But he has time, he is still very young.
As for Ryder, he said that he will retire if he lose in this fight. It's just bad match up from him. Munguia has power in both hands and good chin as he is not affected by the power jabs of Ryder.
I watched the replay on Youtube and you are right, there are still a lot to improve for Munguia's raw talent. They should not rush this kid to fight for a championship, 3 or 4 more fights like Ryder then he is good to go for the championship belt i think.
As for John Ryder, i think it's time for him to hang the gloves for good as he was made a stepping stone by young talents which could harm his physical health.
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We are getting closer to possibly the greatest fight in the modern era of boxing, Fury Vs Usuk, which will unify the following belts: WBC (Fury) and WBA, WBO, IBF, IBO (Usyk). So unless the fight ends with a draw, we will see the first undisputed heavyweight champion in over 20 years.
An interesting face-off style interview popped up 3 days ago:
I like this form of interview as it allows to assess who is more confident and has a mental advantage. I think it's clear that Fury appeared to be mentally dominating, but it's hard to imagine anyone being better than him in this element.
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I watched the replay on Youtube and you are right, there are still a lot to improve for Munguia's raw talent. They should not rush this kid to fight for a championship, 3 or 4 more fights like Ryder then he is good to go for the championship belt i think.
As for John Ryder, i think it's time for him to hang the gloves for good as he was made a stepping stone by young talents which could harm his physical health.
Munguia already has 43 fights. One of the criticisms he's faced is that his opposition has been too soft. If his promoter felt he was ready to fight Golovkin in 2018, when GGG was looking for a replacement opponent after Canelo was suspended, then he should be ready to fight that level of competition now that he has a lot more experience.
It is true that his defense needs a lot of improvement but he is still offensively very strong. It is time to step up his level of competition. Unfortunately for Munguia, PBC has most of the top fighters in the division and they don't like to work with other promoters. If politics weren't an issue then I would like to see him against Canelo, Jermall Charlo, or David Benavidez.
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I watched the replay on Youtube and you are right, there are still a lot to improve for Munguia's raw talent. They should not rush this kid to fight for a championship, 3 or 4 more fights like Ryder then he is good to go for the championship belt i think.
As for John Ryder, i think it's time for him to hang the gloves for good as he was made a stepping stone by young talents which could harm his physical health.
Munguia already has 43 fights. One of the criticisms he's faced is that his opposition has been too soft. If his promoter felt he was ready to fight Golovkin in 2018, when GGG was looking for a replacement opponent after Canelo was suspended, then he should be ready to fight that level of competition now that he has a lot more experience.
It is true that his defense needs a lot of improvement but he is still offensively very strong. It is time to step up his level of competition. Unfortunately for Munguia, PBC has most of the top fighters in the division and they don't like to work with other promoters. If politics weren't an issue then I would like to see him against Canelo, Jermall Charlo, or David Benavidez.
I have read the social media post of Benavidez after the fight of Munguia, the former have said that Munguia is an easy fight or knockout if they are to meet in the ring. Benavidez might have a point but as you have said that boxing politics will not allow the two to meet. One option for Munguia is to opt-out of his current promoter just like what Canelo did so he can have full control of his career.
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I like this form of interview as it allows to assess who is more confident and has a mental advantage. I think it's clear that Fury appeared to be mentally dominating, but it's hard to imagine anyone being better than him in this element.
Great interview and you deserved some positive karma!
I watched interviews like this in older Tyson Fury fights and I saw he is very smart both in talking and boxing.
Cant wait for this fight to get started, and I think this fight wont go to distance.
Betting on Fury to win is not bad, but fight to end early pays amazing, and I think someone is going down
Check the odds: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/fury-tyson-v-usyk-oleksandr-6554faff0a6c950001760aff
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Breaking news:
Shakur Stevenson announced in his tweeter account that he is retiring from the sport of boxing. Don't know the reason but i do think that he is not that hungry for a title anymore and that showed on his last performance against Edwin De Los Santos where he almost lost that one with a sub par performance.
Maybe a fight with Haney could make him unretire.
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Breaking news:
Shakur Stevenson announced in his tweeter account that he is retiring from the sport of boxing. Don't know the reason but i do think that he is not that hungry for a title anymore and that showed on his last performance against Edwin De Los Santos where he almost lost that one with a sub par performance.
Maybe a fight with Haney could make him unretire.
Teofimo and Tyson Fury also said they were retiring but then came back a few months later. If he is really serious then he should vacate his belt, otherwise it’s just a publicity stunt. He might be frustrated that so many fighters refuse to fight him. His style is so unappealing to watch that not many people will miss him.
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Breaking news:
Shakur Stevenson announced in his tweeter account that he is retiring from the sport of boxing. Don't know the reason but i do think that he is not that hungry for a title anymore and that showed on his last performance against Edwin De Los Santos where he almost lost that one with a sub par performance.
Maybe a fight with Haney could make him unretire.
Teofimo and Tyson Fury also said they were retiring but then came back a few months later. If he is really serious then he should vacate his belt, otherwise it’s just a publicity stunt. He might be frustrated that so many fighters refuse to fight him. His style is so unappealing to watch that not many people will miss him.
Yup, that's the problem of the fighting style of Shakur Stevenson, he can't draw crowds or even filled a stadium when his opponent is not so popular. He and Haney have almost the same style but the latter has the advantage as he is the unified champion and like you said, he might unretire a few months from now is the offer is good.
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Breaking news:
Shakur Stevenson announced in his tweeter account that he is retiring from the sport of boxing. Don't know the reason but i do think that he is not that hungry for a title anymore and that showed on his last performance against Edwin De Los Santos where he almost lost that one with a sub par performance.
Maybe a fight with Haney could make him unretire.
Teofimo and Tyson Fury also said they were retiring but then came back a few months later. If he is really serious then he should vacate his belt, otherwise it’s just a publicity stunt. He might be frustrated that so many fighters refuse to fight him. His style is so unappealing to watch that not many people will miss him.
Yup, that's the problem of the fighting style of Shakur Stevenson, he can't draw crowds or even filled a stadium when his opponent is not so popular. He and Haney have almost the same style but the latter has the advantage as he is the unified champion and like you said, he might unretire a few months from now is the offer is good.
is Fury the first to do this? seem like its their way for Top rank to offer them millions to fight again.
i don't think the promoters believe Shakur for saying this. he is too young to retire. he barely make millions like Fury so there is got to be a minimum price for him to go back. but this guy is not a KO artist though. he may be skillful like he could dance around an opponent but with a record of being a Decision artist, offer may not be as huge as he expect.
him and Teo should fight.
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Fury Vs Usyk is less than 3 weeks away. It will be a legendary fight.
Fury can definitely get knocked down, we've already seen it a few times. But he'd always just spring back up and win a fight. He also had some controversial wins, like the first one against Wilder that you mentioned or his last one against Ngannou. But he has a perfect personality for this profession. He truly believes that he's meant to be the undisputed champion, which gives him extra powers.
As for Usyk, his technique is second to none, but the size disadvantage will be the major factor here. You don't need to be an expert to know that Fury's main tactic will be throwing a LOT of jabs to keep Usyk at a safe distance.
The odds are quite close. Currently 1.76 for Fury and 2.12 for Usyk. I expected Fury to be more of a favourite, but maybe that fight with Francis played a role here.
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Breaking news:
Shakur Stevenson announced in his tweeter account that he is retiring from the sport of boxing. Don't know the reason but i do think that he is not that hungry for a title anymore and that showed on his last performance against Edwin De Los Santos where he almost lost that one with a sub par performance.
Maybe a fight with Haney could make him unretire.
Teofimo and Tyson Fury also said they were retiring but then came back a few months later. If he is really serious then he should vacate his belt, otherwise it’s just a publicity stunt. He might be frustrated that so many fighters refuse to fight him. His style is so unappealing to watch that not many people will miss him.
Yes, I read it but who knows, this could be another Teo Lopez "moments".
But after 30 days, Lopez announced that he is coming back and that his retirement is voided, then call out Devin Haney. Most likely he will do the same though, maybe he is just looking for the right opponent to return back in the ring.
@electronicash - Fury had mental issues that's why he quit (way back before it was like a norm today seeing athletes calling it a problem for them), but then he comeback and became a champion again.
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Fury Vs Usyk is less than 3 weeks away. It will be a legendary fight.
Fury can definitely get knocked down, we've already seen it a few times. But he'd always just spring back up and win a fight. He also had some controversial wins, like the first one against Wilder that you mentioned or his last one against Ngannou. But he has a perfect personality for this profession. He truly believes that he's meant to be the undisputed champion, which gives him extra powers.
As for Usyk, his technique is second to none, but the size disadvantage will be the major factor here. You don't need to be an expert to know that Fury's main tactic will be throwing a LOT of jabs to keep Usyk at a safe distance.
The odds are quite close. Currently 1.76 for Fury and 2.12 for Usyk. I expected Fury to be more of a favourite, but maybe that fight with Francis played a role here.
There's a saying in boxing or maybe this is applicable to all sports, "You are only as good as your last performance", that maybe the reason why the odds is close as Francis gives Fury a one hell of a fight whereas Usyk was superb in defeating AJ.
But size does matter and i think Fury will this fight so that 1.76 ML odds is attractive enough for me to push the bet button.
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Fury Vs Usyk is less than 3 weeks away. It will be a legendary fight.
Fury can definitely get knocked down, we've already seen it a few times. But he'd always just spring back up and win a fight. He also had some controversial wins, like the first one against Wilder that you mentioned or his last one against Ngannou. But he has a perfect personality for this profession. He truly believes that he's meant to be the undisputed champion, which gives him extra powers.
As for Usyk, his technique is second to none, but the size disadvantage will be the major factor here. You don't need to be an expert to know that Fury's main tactic will be throwing a LOT of jabs to keep Usyk at a safe distance.
The odds are quite close. Currently 1.76 for Fury and 2.12 for Usyk. I expected Fury to be more of a favourite, but maybe that fight with Francis played a role here.
There's a saying in boxing or maybe this is applicable to all sports, "You are only as good as your last performance", that maybe the reason why the odds is close as Francis gives Fury a one hell of a fight whereas Usyk was superb in defeating AJ.
But size does matter and i think Fury will this fight so that 1.76 ML odds is attractive enough for me to push the bet button.
And here is the official promo for the fight,
I was impressed by it to be honest. They needed something like this to really reach out to boxing fans.
And the Jerwin Ancajas and Takuma Inoue fight is also back on schedule on February 24.
https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/jerwin-ancajas-gears-up-title-fight-takuma-inoue-japan-february-2024/
It's a tough fight for Jerwin as he will go to Japan and try to win that belt.
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And here is the official promo for the fight,
I love the whole western-gladiator-pirate movie style and I saw other Fury family members in this promo video!
Only 16 days until the fight I am already preparing for this historic spectacle.
Now time for you to get some good karma. ;)
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I was impressed by it to be honest. They needed something like this to really reach out to boxing fans.
Same here and to be honest, this was my first time to see such a promotion video of that kind and I do hope that the real would live up to its expectations.
It's a tough fight for Jerwin as he will go to Japan and try to win that belt.
Agree, Jerwin is on a downfall of his career and this may be a make or break fight for him that a loss might be the reason for his early retirement from boxing.
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I was impressed by it to be honest. They needed something like this to really reach out to boxing fans.
Same here and to be honest, this was my first time to see such a promotion video of that kind and I do hope that the real would live up to its expectations.
It's a tough fight for Jerwin as he will go to Japan and try to win that belt.
Agree, Jerwin is on a downfall of his career and this may be a make or break fight for him that a loss might be the reason for his early retirement from boxing.
He really needs to get this win, he might have a hard time moving up in weight if he losses this one. So in any case, yeah, it could be a make or break for him but hopefully he can still come out on top.
He last name might be Inoue, but he is not the same as his brother who is more powerful that why we should give Jerwin a chance even if he is a big underdog in this fight. And for us who supported our own, we are going to bet on him.
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There's a saying in boxing or maybe this is applicable to all sports, "You are only as good as your last performance"
This could be the reason, but Tyson had plenty of fights when he looked careless, and was getting knocked down (e.g. Wilder fights) but would always come at the top.
I suspect experts see Usyk as a guy hard to catch and knock out, so are expecting the fight to be more technical and go to judges. In such case, Usyk have a decent chance.
But size does matter and i think Fury will this fight so that 1.76 ML odds is attractive enough for me to push the bet button.
I think so too, we have weight classes for a reason and Usyk is not a real heavyweight. The size/reach disadvantage will probably be too much to overcome.
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Damn, have you read the news about the Fury vs Usyk fight lately? News had it that it would be postponed to a later date due to the cut that Fury got and his cutman said that it would take at least 90 days to fully heal.
https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-usyk-fallout-entire-february-17-ring-fire-event-postponed--181159
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Damn, have you read the news about the Fury vs Usyk fight lately? News had it that it would be postponed to a later date due to the cut that Fury got and his cutman said that it would take at least 90 days to fully heal.
https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-usyk-fallout-entire-february-17-ring-fire-event-postponed--181159
Fury has had all kinds of misfortunes in his career. Some have been self-inflicted and some have not. There are some conspiracy theorists suggesting that Fury got himself intentionally injured because he doesn't want to fight Usyk. They were also saying he intentionally got Covid to avoid Wilder several years ago, or that it was fake and he never had Covid. With boxing fans being so tribal, there are many who will always believe the worst when something like this happens. Even if there's no evidence people will still repeat these theories if it makes a fighter who isn't from their favorite promotion or ethnic background look bad.
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Damn, have you read the news about the Fury vs Usyk fight lately? News had it that it would be postponed to a later date due to the cut that Fury got and his cutman said that it would take at least 90 days to fully heal.
https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-usyk-fallout-entire-february-17-ring-fire-event-postponed--181159
Just woke up to that news. What a bummer.
Michael Bisping's commentary, including the footage of unfortunate sparring:
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The fight will likely get postponed, although there are speculations of the replacement fight, possibly against Filip Hrgovic (17-0).
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Damn, have you read the news about the Fury vs Usyk fight lately? News had it that it would be postponed to a later date due to the cut that Fury got and his cutman said that it would take at least 90 days to fully heal.
https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-usyk-fallout-entire-february-17-ring-fire-event-postponed--181159
Yes, and as been discussed in the other forum, there is something odd in this fight and majority have been right as with that accidental cut on Fury is huge and it really will take days to fully close it up and healed before he can go back to active boxing.
@FinneysTrueVision - I heard those conspiracies, but not sure about it, I mean with all the money in the line here and obviously him and his Father are motivated by it, why would he self inflict and not go and push the fight? doesn't make sense.
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Filip is a younger and looks like he could KO Usyk. this is a bigger risk for Usyk.
what Bisping is saying that the event is going to be canceled because Usyk will also deny Filip because he is after a bigger payday than what he could get if he fights Fury. how disappointing can this be. but i would also not ignore the fact that Fury had been avoiding Usyk since. if the theories are to be believed, this is a massive duck. ;D
the video does look like the elbow hit the jaw.
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The fight will likely get postponed, although there are speculations of the replacement fight, possibly against Filip Hrgovic (17-0).
Anyone knows who was the Fury sparring partner?
That is one big cut and it sucks this incident happened, I was so getting ready mentally to watch this fight. :(
I want to see this fight soon, but it is going to be hard for it to happen in next few months, or it would be a big risk for cut to open during the fight.
My prediction if everything went good, maybe fight can happen in November or December.
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Filip is a younger and looks like he could KO Usyk. this is a bigger risk for Usyk.
what Bisping is saying that the event is going to be canceled because Usyk will also deny Filip because he is after a bigger payday than what he could get if he fights Fury. how disappointing can this be. but i would also not ignore the fact that Fury had been avoiding Usyk since. if the theories are to be believed, this is a massive duck. ;D
the video does look like the elbow hit the jaw.
It is good that they didn't totally cancel the card and a replacement for Fury is better than no fight for Usyk at all.
I don't think that the youth of Filip could make him win the fight as Usyk is a technical fighter and betting Joshua twice is not an easy task for everyone in this division so i think Usyk will remain a champion after their Saudi fight in the coming weeks.
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Bivol and Beterbiev fight is on:
Artur Beterbiev and Dmitry Bivol will finally meet for a fight that will crown the undisputed light heavyweight champion.
Turki Alalshikh, the chairman of the General Entertainment Authority of Saudi Arabia, announced the news Saturday, revealing that Beterbiev and Bivol will fight on June 1 in Saudi Arabia.
The event will also showcase the previously announced “five-versus-five” card featuring fighters from rival British promoters Matchroom Boxing and Queensberry Promotions.
In recent months, all signs have been pointing toward a bout between the WBC, WBO, and IBF champion Beterbiev and WBA titlist Bivol to be nearing a deal.
https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-bivol-on-june-1-saudi-arabia-matchroom-vs-queensberry-5-vs-5-featured-on-undercard--181193
This is going to be a unification fight, both are undefeated, Beterbiev still looks scary at his age, while Bivol is cool with his defeat of Canelo.
Who you got in this fight?
I think it will be a very close fight but I'm seeing Beterbiev might edge Bivol in a 12 full rounds, perhaps a split decision win. I haven't check the odds for this fight though.
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Bivol and Beterbiev fight is on:
Artur Beterbiev and Dmitry Bivol will finally meet for a fight that will crown the undisputed light heavyweight champion.
Turki Alalshikh, the chairman of the General Entertainment Authority of Saudi Arabia, announced the news Saturday, revealing that Beterbiev and Bivol will fight on June 1 in Saudi Arabia.
The event will also showcase the previously announced “five-versus-five” card featuring fighters from rival British promoters Matchroom Boxing and Queensberry Promotions.
In recent months, all signs have been pointing toward a bout between the WBC, WBO, and IBF champion Beterbiev and WBA titlist Bivol to be nearing a deal.
https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-bivol-on-june-1-saudi-arabia-matchroom-vs-queensberry-5-vs-5-featured-on-undercard--181193
This is going to be a unification fight, both are undefeated, Beterbiev still looks scary at his age, while Bivol is cool with his defeat of Canelo.
Who you got in this fight?
I think it will be a very close fight but I'm seeing Beterbiev might edge Bivol in a 12 full rounds, perhaps a split decision win. I haven't check the odds for this fight though.
Same as what you are seeing, going to be very close fight. Beterbiev though has been in a lot of this tough fights and come up on top without going into the judges scorecard.
So Bivol might uses his volume punching, but if he will be caught by Beterbiev in the middle round, just like in the Yarde fight, It will be over in 10 rounds. Bivol might find success early, but Beterviev engine could get hot in round 4 and up and then will keep the pressure on Bivol. Canelo wasn't able to pressure Bivol and that is a wrong strategy for him that's why Bivol felt confident and and score a upset win. But Beterbiev is a different boxer and with power, it's hard to avoid that in 12 rounds.
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Filip is a younger and looks like he could KO Usyk. this is a bigger risk for Usyk.
what Bisping is saying that the event is going to be canceled because Usyk will also deny Filip because he is after a bigger payday than what he could get if he fights Fury. how disappointing can this be. but i would also not ignore the fact that Fury had been avoiding Usyk since. if the theories are to be believed, this is a massive duck. ;D
the video does look like the elbow hit the jaw.
It is good that they didn't totally cancel the card and a replacement for Fury is better than no fight for Usyk at all.
I don't think that the youth of Filip could make him win the fight as Usyk is a technical fighter and betting Joshua twice is not an easy task for everyone in this division so i think Usyk will remain a champion after their Saudi fight in the coming weeks.
it is still very minimum to gain for Usyk to fight Filip but huge risk. he would prefer to wait even if it meant waiting a year. but its good to know they are just moving the schedule to May. i read the promotion will be adding $10M to boxers who will not back out in the event. i wouldn't let it pass if i were one of them. a generous offer like this is worth for everyone to just stick to the plan.
i think that cut above Fury's eyes will once gain open up this May.
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Filip is a younger and looks like he could KO Usyk. this is a bigger risk for Usyk.
what Bisping is saying that the event is going to be canceled because Usyk will also deny Filip because he is after a bigger payday than what he could get if he fights Fury. how disappointing can this be. but i would also not ignore the fact that Fury had been avoiding Usyk since. if the theories are to be believed, this is a massive duck. ;D
the video does look like the elbow hit the jaw.
It is good that they didn't totally cancel the card and a replacement for Fury is better than no fight for Usyk at all.
I don't think that the youth of Filip could make him win the fight as Usyk is a technical fighter and betting Joshua twice is not an easy task for everyone in this division so i think Usyk will remain a champion after their Saudi fight in the coming weeks.
it is still very minimum to gain for Usyk to fight Filip but huge risk. he would prefer to wait even if it meant waiting a year. but its good to know they are just moving the schedule to May. i read the promotion will be adding $10M to boxers who will not back out in the event. i wouldn't let it pass if i were one of them. a generous offer like this is worth for everyone to just stick to the plan.
i think that cut above Fury's eyes will once gain open up this May.
Yeah, risky but I think the compensation is worth the risk, imagine that Usyk will receive an additional $10M, that's huge, a 10 fights pay for an average boxer in this division.
That cut would be the target if he ever Usyk wins against Filip but it would not be easy to hit that part as for sure Fury will do his best to protect his eyes.
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The new date for the Fury Vs Usyk fight has been announced. It's scheduled to happen on 18th May. So a little over 3 months from now, not as bad as many have expected.
But it's getting more interesting this time:
Meanwhile, fight organiser Turki Al-Sheikh revealed that both boxers will face a $10m penalty if they withdraw in May, and that Anthony Joshua has agreed to step in if such a scenario occurs.
However, Joshua will only be paired with Fury, according to Al-Sheikh, who said Usyk can choose his opponent if Fury withdraws again.
Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/fury-usyk-rescheduled-new-date-anthony-joshua-b2490193.html
AJ is fighting Ngannou in March, if he defeats him easily, many would probably prefer to see Fury fighting AJ instead of Usyk. Maybe Ngannou should get an offer to be a replacement option for Fury if he pulls out again ;D
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The new date for the Fury Vs Usyk fight has been announced. It's scheduled to happen on 18th May. So a little over 3 months from now, not as bad as many have expected.
I saw this news yesterday but this is a new twist from the organizer ;D
Joshua managed to sneak in as a backup fighter but that $10m penalty will make both fighters very careful now.
Date is much earlier than I expected, now I am sure Usyk will target Fury injured eye trying to open the cut if possible.
Anyone watching MMA with Diaz brothers knows how old cuts open and bleed much easier.
AJ is fighting Ngannou in March, if he defeats him easily, many would probably prefer to see Fury fighting AJ instead of Usyk. Maybe Ngannou should get an offer to be a replacement option for Fury if he pulls out again ;D
Yes please.
Now we need Ngannou to win against Joshua ;D
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Bivol and Beterbiev fight is on:
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This is going to be a unification fight, both are undefeated, Beterbiev still looks scary at his age, while Bivol is cool with his defeat of Canelo.
Who you got in this fight?
It doesn't get much better than this. Bivol is ranked 1st in the global ranking and Beterbiev is 2nd.
Both are undefeated, with 22 and 20 wins respectively. Beterbiew has an unbelievable 100% KO rate (Bivol 50%). It will be a massive challenge for Dmitrii, but my money will still be on him.
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Bivol and Beterbiev fight is on:
Artur Beterbiev and Dmitry Bivol will finally meet for a fight that will crown the undisputed light heavyweight champion.
Turki Alalshikh, the chairman of the General Entertainment Authority of Saudi Arabia, announced the news Saturday, revealing that Beterbiev and Bivol will fight on June 1 in Saudi Arabia.
The event will also showcase the previously announced “five-versus-five” card featuring fighters from rival British promoters Matchroom Boxing and Queensberry Promotions.
In recent months, all signs have been pointing toward a bout between the WBC, WBO, and IBF champion Beterbiev and WBA titlist Bivol to be nearing a deal.
https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-bivol-on-june-1-saudi-arabia-matchroom-vs-queensberry-5-vs-5-featured-on-undercard--181193
This is going to be a unification fight, both are undefeated, Beterbiev still looks scary at his age, while Bivol is cool with his defeat of Canelo.
Who you got in this fight?
I think it will be a very close fight but I'm seeing Beterbiev might edge Bivol in a 12 full rounds, perhaps a split decision win. I haven't check the odds for this fight though.
Wow, this is the fight that i really wanted to see. Both Russsians are scary in this division though Bivol have the edge because of his youth but like you said, Beterbiev is still a force to reckon with. To be honest, i don't have the idea on whom to back as i'm a fan of both boxers.
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Bivol and Beterbiev fight is on:
(...)
This is going to be a unification fight, both are undefeated, Beterbiev still looks scary at his age, while Bivol is cool with his defeat of Canelo.
Who you got in this fight?
It doesn't get much better than this. Bivol is ranked 1st in the global ranking and Beterbiev is 2nd.
Both are undefeated, with 22 and 20 wins respectively. Beterbiew has an unbelievable 100% KO rate (Bivol 50%). It will be a massive challenge for Dmitrii, but my money will still be on him.
Yes and it's a battle between two Russians, and that's why it's going to be a solid fight indeed.
Beterbiev is one scary man, his looks alone and then his body, built like a tank. But we have the tall Bivol, with great IQ and again, upset Canelo when everyone write him off on that fight and says that he can't beat Canelo.
It's really hard to pick for now, but we all have our favorite already here in Beterbiev.
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Beterbiev is one scary man, his looks alone and then his body, built like a tank. But we have the tall Bivol, with great IQ and again, upset Canelo when everyone write him off on that fight and says that he can't beat Canelo.
It's really hard to pick for now, but we all have our favorite already here in Beterbiev.
The odds are identical, a perfect 50/50. Snippet from Unibet:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/06/vF4i9.png)
Doesn't happen very often in boxing.
My favourite is Bivol. Beterbiev is scary indeed, but you're only as good as your opponent allows you, and Dmitrii has what it takes to stop him.
Honestly, I think it could be a better fight than Fury Vs Usyk.
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Beterbiev is one scary man, his looks alone and then his body, built like a tank. But we have the tall Bivol, with great IQ and again, upset Canelo when everyone write him off on that fight and says that he can't beat Canelo.
It's really hard to pick for now, but we all have our favorite already here in Beterbiev.
The odds are identical, a perfect 50/50. Snippet from Unibet:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/06/vF4i9.png)
Doesn't happen very often in boxing.
My favourite is Bivol. Beterbiev is scary indeed, but you're only as good as your opponent allows you, and Dmitrii has what it takes to stop him.
Honestly, I think it could be a better fight than Fury Vs Usyk.
Thanks for the link,
See and the odds are right, right now boxing fans are divided as to who they are going to pick in this fight. Just like you said, your favorite is Bivol and I can't blame you for that if you are going to side with him in this fight.
As oppose to me wherein I reckon that Beterbiev is the better fighter and will here.
Hopefully we can hear what others are thinking, we might compare notes and have a healthy discussions. :)
No need to be argumentative or what, just pure boxing fans giving their thoughts about this great fight.
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Beterbiev is one scary man, his looks alone and then his body, built like a tank. But we have the tall Bivol, with great IQ and again, upset Canelo when everyone write him off on that fight and says that he can't beat Canelo.
It's really hard to pick for now, but we all have our favorite already here in Beterbiev.
The odds are identical, a perfect 50/50. Snippet from Unibet:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/06/vF4i9.png)
Doesn't happen very often in boxing.
My favourite is Bivol. Beterbiev is scary indeed, but you're only as good as your opponent allows you, and Dmitrii has what it takes to stop him.
Honestly, I think it could be a better fight than Fury Vs Usyk.
As I have posted on the other board,
a. Beterbiev is the obvious heavier puncher, and recently he still shows that he can stop or knockout everyone in the LHW
b. Bivol is the younger fighter, taller and have the reach advantage perhaps. And he has one of the best wins against the cash cow in Canelo Alvarez. So at least we have seen him how his style can go against a aggressive fighter. Not saying that Beterbiev and Canelo has the same style, but both loves to attack and aggressive and Bivol was able to neutralize it by his volume punching.
But I thought that Beterbiev is going to be the favorite here, slight maybe, but the favorite. So I'm surprised that it's a 50:50 fight for sport bookies. Maybe they have thought that Bivol has beaten Canelo before and so they make the odds close as possible.
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Beterbiev is one scary man, his looks alone and then his body, built like a tank. But we have the tall Bivol, with great IQ and again, upset Canelo when everyone write him off on that fight and says that he can't beat Canelo.
It's really hard to pick for now, but we all have our favorite already here in Beterbiev.
The odds are identical, a perfect 50/50. Snippet from Unibet:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/06/vF4i9.png)
Doesn't happen very often in boxing.
My favourite is Bivol. Beterbiev is scary indeed, but you're only as good as your opponent allows you, and Dmitrii has what it takes to stop him.
Honestly, I think it could be a better fight than Fury Vs Usyk.
Interesting odds but i expected this because both are talented boxers and neither of them had a clear edge over the other though Beterbiev is older than Bivol but his physical attributes doesn't show that he is now 38 years old.
Fury vs Usyk is also an interesting fight and they have the attention of the boxing community because their division (heavyweight) is special at least for me hehe.
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(...) Beterbiev is older than Bivol but his physical attributes doesn't show that he is now 38 years old.
I believe he's 39 now, so close to the normal retirement age, but could as well still perform great for another 2-3 years. People age differently and with the current medical knowledge and proper nutrition, boxers "shelf-life" can be extended.
Fury vs Usyk is also an interesting fight and they have the attention of the boxing community because their division (heavyweight) is special at least for me hehe.
Oh for sure. It's going to be a great year for boxing, which lost a lot of fans to MMA etc but seems to be making a comeback.
b. Bivol is the younger fighter, taller and have the reach advantage perhaps. And he has one of the best wins against the cash cow in Canelo Alvarez. So at least we have seen him how his style can go against a aggressive fighter. Not saying that Beterbiev and Canelo has the same style, but both loves to attack and aggressive and Bivol was able to neutralize it by his volume punching.
Agree. These were my thoughts too. If Bivol managed to dominate Canelo, he surely can do the same to Beterbiev.
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Teo Lopez vs Jamaine Ortiz weigh-in video,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLnLIDgbpWQ
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLnLIDgbpWQ)
Both make the weight requirements in this fight, 139.6 lbs.
So another good fight this weekend to fight, Ortiz though still a huge 5:1 underdog in this fight. Both look in shape and sharp, but I'm expecting the take over to win this fight.
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Teo Lopez vs Jamaine Ortiz weigh-in video,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLnLIDgbpWQ
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLnLIDgbpWQ)
Both make the weight requirements in this fight, 139.6 lbs.
So another good fight this weekend to fight, Ortiz though still a huge 5:1 underdog in this fight. Both look in shape and sharp, but I'm expecting the take over to win this fight.
I don't know, but it might be good to throw some money on the underdog Ortiz?
Style makes fight and I think that Ortiz might give Teo a hard time early on in this fight just like what he did against Loma. And I'm not sure if there will be rehydration clause here. If none then I think Ortiz will be the bigger guy, IMHO.
So it might not be as easy fight for Teo as everyone might have thought, at least this is how I would see the fight that Ortiz will have a chance and that odds should be at least closer.
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Teo Lopez vs Jamaine Ortiz weigh-in video,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLnLIDgbpWQ
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLnLIDgbpWQ)
Both make the weight requirements in this fight, 139.6 lbs.
So another good fight this weekend to fight, Ortiz though still a huge 5:1 underdog in this fight. Both look in shape and sharp, but I'm expecting the take over to win this fight.
I don't know, but it might be good to throw some money on the underdog Ortiz?
Style makes fight and I think that Ortiz might give Teo a hard time early on in this fight just like what he did against Loma. And I'm not sure if there will be rehydration clause here. If none then I think Ortiz will be the bigger guy, IMHO.
So it might not be as easy fight for Teo as everyone might have thought, at least this is how I would see the fight that Ortiz will have a chance and that odds should be at least closer.
For me its good to throw some few dollars on the underdog Ortiz as Teo for me is unpredictable in his fights. Unpredictable in the sense that if he fight a non-popular, his performance is not so impressive while on a championship fight where we expected him to lose, he showed up and give us an impressive fight. Ortiz is a keep busy fight for him so i think his performance here will be sub par, just my thought.
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Ortiz by Decision 13.00 on Stake. the bookie doesn't allow you to bet on him for bigger amount actually, a few USD won't hurt. but Teo still is the bigger puncher between the 2. it counts because it can win the fight. if its all he got, just one shot could turn the things around.
i would probably try the multibet by just picking few who has the highest KO ratings. who knows, this few USD can turn to thousands. this is the list of the full card.
(https://i.imgur.com/VlvM1z1.jpeg)
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^^ Lol at the picture of Pedraza there, hehehe.
Yeah, Ortiz is a huge underdog in this fight and although I think Teo might get the win here, but still if you love underdogs, Ortiz will be the perfect definition of it. Keyshawn Davis too at 135 lbs could be a good fight to watch against Pedraza.
He could be the next main man at this division, although it still has the best, Tank Davis and then Shakur Stevenson.
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There's not much option on this fight between Lopez vs Ortiz so i will just go for "under 8.5" @3.0. Though i have a feeling that this would end via decision but throwing a few dollars for that odds i think is worth the risk since Teo Lopez is a knockout artist.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/09/vyRyG.jpeg)
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There's not much option on this fight between Lopez vs Ortiz so i will just go for "under 8.5" @3.0. Though i have a feeling that this would end via decision but throwing a few dollars for that odds i think is worth the risk since Teo Lopez is a knockout artist.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/09/vyRyG.jpeg)
To be honest I didn't bet on this fight mate, as I know that Teo is going to win and that it can go to full 12 rounds but it doesn't have any value on it.
And as expected, he win and others says its a boring fight. And I can't blame them, Ortiz doesn't want to engage Lopez and he thought that he can win with that strategy of catching and then running.
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It's been obvious for a long time that Teo needs to switch trainers. He is too stubborn to actually do it but I don't see him going much further with Teo Sr. in his corner. With just a little bit of slickness any fighter can make him look bad. Because of his flaws and how much he thinks he's worth, there isn't too many options for him right now. Teofimo vs. Subriel Matias is a fight I would really like to see.
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Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney on April 20,
BoxingScene.com has confirmed that a deal was reached for the pair of young stars to meet atop an April 20 DAZN pay-per-view event. Both sides acknowledged to Boxing Scene that advanced talks rapidly progressed to agreed terms, in line with breaking news reports from Daily Star’s Chris McKenna and ESPN’s Mike Coppinger of the bout’s status.
Haney will defend his WBC junior welterweight title versus Garcia at a location to be determined in Las Vegas.
https://www.boxingscene.com/devin-haney-ryan-garcia-reach-terms-wbc-title-fight-headline-april-20-dazn-ppv-las-vegas--181316
Great fight for boxing fans, we have been hearing the name of Ryan Garcia lately and so this is the result of Ryan being in social media, hehehe. He can create the fight that he wanted.
So it was a blessing in disguise that Romero back down on their negotiations.
And then Haney accepting this challenge, his belt on the line to make this mega fight.
Garcia is a huge betting underdog as initially listed, 5:1.
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There's not much option on this fight between Lopez vs Ortiz so i will just go for "under 8.5" @3.0. Though i have a feeling that this would end via decision but throwing a few dollars for that odds i think is worth the risk since Teo Lopez is a knockout artist.
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To be honest I didn't bet on this fight mate, as I know that Teo is going to win and that it can go to full 12 rounds but it doesn't have any value on it.
And as expected, he win and others says its a boring fight. And I can't blame them, Ortiz doesn't want to engage Lopez and he thought that he can win with that strategy of catching and then running.
Just trying my luck there bro but Teo has been exposed big time in that fight. He got easily frustrated by the hit-and-run style of Ortiz and failed to cut the gap or cornered Ortiz. He can't expect every boxer to come to him and slug it out. Luckily for him, the judges gave him the fight as per Compubox, Ortiz has more punches landed than him.
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And now we have a huge fight at 140 lbs, Haney vs Garcia.
Last time I check the odds, it's Haney that is a huge favorite in this fight. But I will give Garcia a slight chance to win if he can hit that left hook of him. He had lived with it, he try to used it against Tank, but Tank is wise and smaller and so it's very hard to execute it perfectly.
But against Haney who is the same height with him, who knows, he might able to slip some and see if Haney is stronger as this weight division as he is not known to have a good chin.
And there is a pre-fight brawl already: https://talksport.com/sport/1744379/devin-haney-ryan-garcia-brawl-super-bowl/
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And now we have a huge fight at 140 lbs, Haney vs Garcia.
Last time I check the odds, it's Haney that is a huge favorite in this fight. But I will give Garcia a slight chance to win if he can hit that left hook of him. He had lived with it, he try to used it against Tank, but Tank is wise and smaller and so it's very hard to execute it perfectly.
But against Haney who is the same height with him, who knows, he might able to slip some and see if Haney is stronger as this weight division as he is not known to have a good chin.
And there is a pre-fight brawl already: https://talksport.com/sport/1744379/devin-haney-ryan-garcia-brawl-super-bowl/
Not sure about the brawl though, it looks like as setup to me. But in any case, and as I have said, Garcia is a long shot here, Haney's weight is no longer a problem for him at 140 lbs and his punch had some power now, he knock down Prograis in their last fight.
Money wise, this is great for them. Millions again for Ryan and could be another blockbuster in terms of PPV numbers.
Still a lot of time to digest the fight before we sealed our bet here. And maybe Garcia can close up that gap so for Garcia fights, this early is a good time to bet.
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And now we have a huge fight at 140 lbs, Haney vs Garcia.
Last time I check the odds, it's Haney that is a huge favorite in this fight. But I will give Garcia a slight chance to win if he can hit that left hook of him. He had lived with it, he try to used it against Tank, but Tank is wise and smaller and so it's very hard to execute it perfectly.
But against Haney who is the same height with him, who knows, he might able to slip some and see if Haney is stronger as this weight division as he is not known to have a good chin.
And there is a pre-fight brawl already: https://talksport.com/sport/1744379/devin-haney-ryan-garcia-brawl-super-bowl/
They have been bitter rivals since the amateur days, and maybe Ryan is envy of what Devin Haney has accomplished already. Unified champion at 135 lbs, which only Ryan can dream and the becoming a champion now as 140 lbs.
And now he challenge him for the belt and it's a total weight class as both are huge boxers and they can even mature and go as high as welterweight or even super welterweight. But the rival should be tested right now and I wouldn't be surprised since Haney, as they said feather fisted, might actually score a ko win here.
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And now he challenge him for the belt and it's a total weight class as both are huge boxers and they can even mature and go as high as welterweight or even super welterweight. But the rival should be tested right now and I wouldn't be surprised since Haney, as they said feather fisted, might actually score a ko win here.
A knockout victory for Haney is a slim possibility for me since i don't think he would risk himself slugging out with Ryan Garcia whom we knew could knockout opponents with one punch. I think Haney would wisely use the ring just to avoid Garcia's deadly left hooks.
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And now he challenge him for the belt and it's a total weight class as both are huge boxers and they can even mature and go as high as welterweight or even super welterweight. But the rival should be tested right now and I wouldn't be surprised since Haney, as they said feather fisted, might actually score a ko win here.
A knockout victory for Haney is a slim possibility for me since i don't think he would risk himself slugging out with Ryan Garcia whom we knew could knockout opponents with one punch. I think Haney would wisely use the ring just to avoid Garcia's deadly left hooks.
Haney also have the reach advantage which the bout would probably end Haney by decision. Haney seem to be anxious with his record so its the most probable outcome of that fight. He will not stand his ground, utilize footwork and move away but also use his reach advantage.
it would be fun to see an unexpected result though. Haney knocking down Ryan would be fun to watch. it will destroy Ryan's career from then on.
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Haney also have the reach advantage which the bout would probably end Haney by decision. Haney seem to be anxious with his record so its the most probable outcome of that fight. He will not stand his ground, utilize footwork and move away but also use his reach advantage.
it would be fun to see an unexpected result though. Haney knocking down Ryan would be fun to watch. it will destroy Ryan's career from then on.
Ryan Garcia's career was already destroyed by Tank Davis that is why he did not hesitate to call out Devin Haney because he has the puncher's chance while the money is massive too unlike fighting another unknown where the risk of losing is high but the reward is low.
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And now he challenge him for the belt and it's a total weight class as both are huge boxers and they can even mature and go as high as welterweight or even super welterweight. But the rival should be tested right now and I wouldn't be surprised since Haney, as they said feather fisted, might actually score a ko win here.
A knockout victory for Haney is a slim possibility for me since i don't think he would risk himself slugging out with Ryan Garcia whom we knew could knockout opponents with one punch. I think Haney would wisely use the ring just to avoid Garcia's deadly left hooks.
I agree, even if he knock down Prograis, the power should still favor Ryan Garcia here. And that's what makes Ryan Garcia deadly in this fight because of the vaunted left hook. And I think his trainer will play a big role here, he is now under Derrick James, and based on his last fight, it was a different Ryan that we have seen, he tries to be slick just like what other boxers in the stable of James, hehehe.
So it's a good sign that he is focusing more of his lateral movement because that is one of his weakness. His power is already there, he just need to perfectly executed it and then let's see how Haney will react to that power, if Garcia can land early.
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I agree, even if he knock down Prograis, the power should still favor Ryan Garcia here. And that's what makes Ryan Garcia deadly in this fight because of the vaunted left hook. And I think his trainer will play a big role here, he is now under Derrick James, and based on his last fight, it was a different Ryan that we have seen, he tries to be slick just like what other boxers in the stable of James, hehehe.
So it's a good sign that he is focusing more of his lateral movement because that is one of his weakness. His power is already there, he just need to perfectly executed it and then let's see how Haney will react to that power, if Garcia can land early.
I hope Garcia would land those hooks and hurt Devin Haney early so he can gain momentum into the championship rounds because if Ryan Garcia fails to hurt/knockout Haney he will lose to the latter via decision.
There is still time to work on those lateral movements to make him slick but if only he has a solid chin, no need to develop/improve his exissting laterals hehe.
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I agree, even if he knock down Prograis, the power should still favor Ryan Garcia here. And that's what makes Ryan Garcia deadly in this fight because of the vaunted left hook. And I think his trainer will play a big role here, he is now under Derrick James, and based on his last fight, it was a different Ryan that we have seen, he tries to be slick just like what other boxers in the stable of James, hehehe.
So it's a good sign that he is focusing more of his lateral movement because that is one of his weakness. His power is already there, he just need to perfectly executed it and then let's see how Haney will react to that power, if Garcia can land early.
I hope Garcia would land those hooks and hurt Devin Haney early so he can gain momentum into the championship rounds because if Ryan Garcia fails to hurt/knockout Haney he will lose to the latter via decision.
There is still time to work on those lateral movements to make him slick but if only he has a solid chin, no need to develop/improve his exissting laterals hehe.
Not sure about the solid chin, but he did absorb some before and was even knock down by Luke Campbell. But Ryan shows resiliency on that fight, get up from the canvass and won. And it just shows that Ryan can take punches and have good recovery from it.
But for Haney, he has been hurt before, and almost knock down. But this is 140 lbs, so it could be a very different story. But I still have Ryan has the punchers chance against Haney if he can hit that left hook of him, flush.
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I already posted it on the other thread,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/16/Yw3MD.png)
https://www.boxingscene.com/josh-taylor-vs-jack-catterall-rematch-finalized-april-27-leeds--181453
But I think for some members here who are fans of both, it's good to also see and discussed it here. Yeah, it's a rematch between this two, long overdue but I guess still good as they really hate each other here.
I might give Catterall the advantage in this rematch, I think Josh is no longer in his prime and he admitted that he has problems making weight at 140 lbs when he lost to Teo so I was surprised to see the fight going at this weight.
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I might give Catterall the advantage in this rematch, I think Josh is no longer in his prime and he admitted that he has problems making weight at 140 lbs when he lost to Teo so I was surprised to see the fight going at this weight.
Same here, i'll be backing Catterall since i think the first fight could go either way and with the recent performance of Josh Taylor which was not impressive against Teo Lopez, chances are he is going to lose this one. Josh Taylor is not on his prime anymore, this might be his last before retiring if he loses.
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With regards to Nova vs Foster fight, O’Shaquie has again need to rally late and beat Nova on the score cards, but it was thru UD.
Scores were Judge John McKaie scored 114-113 for Nova, Mark Constantino’s 115-112 and Kevin Morgan’s 116-111 for Foster. And with this win, Foster he had retain his belt again.
Foster target is to at least unify the belt, or maybe him the man his props and rematch Nova.
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Takuma Inoue vs Jerwin Ancajas
One week more to go and we can see this fight on a Saturday night, unlike most fights that they held on a weekday. Odds are out and as expected Ancajas is the underdog. Though i see a little chance of him upsetting the homeboy but i will still be backing him with a few dollars.
Ancajas ML @3.05
Inoue ML @1.35
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Takuma Inoue vs Jerwin Ancajas
One week more to go and we can see this fight on a Saturday night, unlike most fights that they held on a weekday. Odds are out and as expected Ancajas is the underdog. Though i see a little chance of him upsetting the homeboy but i will still be backing him with a few dollars.
Ancajas ML @3.05
Inoue ML @1.35
Yes, huge underdog but we all know that Takuma is not Inoue, which means he is beatable as he lost to Nordine a few years ago in Japan. And it just so happen that our boy Jerwin might attempt that one again, to beat him in his own native country.
Definitely, there will be value in our money here if Jerwin will upset Inoue.
And we will back him up no matter what, whether he is the underdog or not. Yes, it's in Japan so fights are not going to be held on weekend which is the usually fight night in the US.
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I might give Catterall the advantage in this rematch, I think Josh is no longer in his prime and he admitted that he has problems making weight at 140 lbs when he lost to Teo so I was surprised to see the fight going at this weight.
Same here, i'll be backing Catterall since i think the first fight could go either way and with the recent performance of Josh Taylor which was not impressive against Teo Lopez, chances are he is going to lose this one. Josh Taylor is not on his prime anymore, this might be his last before retiring if he loses.
I'll go with the opposite here, I think Josh will win this fight. Josh is a different level when he used to dominate this division, let's not forget that he beat all the great champion here and unified.
Maybe he lost his lust already when he accomplished it, but against his rival and with so many fans going to watch this fight in Leeds, it can motivate him to really shut up the mouth of Catterall for good with a big win here.
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Josh Taylor and Jack Catterall face-off:
They really hate each other hehehe, good for promotion though, but I don't think they need it in UK. They are already known in their country as domestic rivals but it gets the fans pump up for this fight.
As both of them wanted to take each other heads off even in the face-off, hehehehe.
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Josh Taylor and Jack Catterall face-off:
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They really hate each other hehehe, good for promotion though, but I don't think they need it in UK. They are already known in their country as domestic rivals but it gets the fans pump up for this fight.
As both of them wanted to take each other heads off even in the face-off, hehehehe.
Haha, another antics to sell the fight. Yeah they are already quite popular in the United Kingdom but an act like this could spark more interest to the ordinary fans of boxing in their place. Josh Taylor was coming from a lose so he need to sell himself more than Jack Catterall.
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Josh Taylor and Jack Catterall face-off:
~snip~
They really hate each other hehehe, good for promotion though, but I don't think they need it in UK. They are already known in their country as domestic rivals but it gets the fans pump up for this fight.
As both of them wanted to take each other heads off even in the face-off, hehehehe.
Haha, another antics to sell the fight. Yeah they are already quite popular in the United Kingdom but an act like this could spark more interest to the ordinary fans of boxing in their place. Josh Taylor was coming from a lose so he need to sell himself more than Jack Catterall.
Yes, it looks like they wanted to sell the fight by acting tough in the initial face off. Or it's that this is personal for Jack as he has been deprived of the rematch by Josh Taylor and Josh seems to be mocking him and his trainer.
So let's see how it goes here, hopefully they can live up the hype just like those other fighters from England who talk so much trash but then doesn't show anything in the ring.
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There are a lot of reports getting in like,
Canelo vs Munguia being offered to him with a $35 million guaranteed purse. Or Canelo choosing Charlo, no reports of how much he is getting, but this is what we have been hearing as the most likely route for Canelo.
And if no Canelo fight for David Benavidez, it is already circulating that he is moving to LHW and fighting the winner of the Bivol vs. Beterbiev.
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There are a lot of reports getting in like,
Canelo vs Munguia being offered to him with a $35 million guaranteed purse. Or Canelo choosing Charlo, no reports of how much he is getting, but this is what we have been hearing as the most likely route for Canelo.
And if no Canelo fight for David Benavidez, it is already circulating that he is moving to LHW and fighting the winner of the Bivol vs. Beterbiev.
I have read that article too that most likely Canelo will fight Munguia next and with that kind of amount and the not so impressive performance of Munguia on his last fight, probably Team Canelo will take this route rather than a fight with David Benavidez which is for me a 50-50 fight.
Cherry picking once again.
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There are a lot of reports getting in like,
Canelo vs Munguia being offered to him with a $35 million guaranteed purse. Or Canelo choosing Charlo, no reports of how much he is getting, but this is what we have been hearing as the most likely route for Canelo.
And if no Canelo fight for David Benavidez, it is already circulating that he is moving to LHW and fighting the winner of the Bivol vs. Beterbiev.
I saw that on my feed David Stated that he has his legacy and a show of his own to create so he need not or cannot wait for Canelo's availability, David could probably ruin Canelo's legacy because this guy is as tough as a nut, he is one pressure fighters that is hard to counter, the size difference is just enormous and Canelo's team is fully aware of that so he opted for a not popular choice which is the other Charlo.
It seems Canelo wants to hold on to those titles that he is cherry-picking his opponent.
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I do agree with you all, Canelo is now cherry picking his opponents and even if he is offered big money, he is clearly ducking Benavidez.
Speaking of Benavidez it is reported that he will be fighting Oleksandr Gvozdyk.
David Benavidez will continue to forge his own path.
The Ring has learned that plans are in place for the unbeaten former two-time WBC super middleweight titlist to next face Ukraine’s Oleksandr Gvozdyk, in a fight that would carry the interim WBC light heavyweight title.
https://www.ringtv.com/665241-david-benavidez-continues-to-target-canelo-oleksandr-gvozdyk-lined-up-as-contingency/#google_vignette
What's your thoughts on this one?
Winnable fight yet, but will it add something to David's legacy? Although the plan is to go and fight the winner of the superbowl of LHW division, Beterbiev vs. Bivol fight.
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I do agree with you all, Canelo is now cherry picking his opponents and even if he is offered big money, he is clearly ducking Benavidez.
Speaking of Benavidez it is reported that he will be fighting Oleksandr Gvozdyk.
David Benavidez will continue to forge his own path.
The Ring has learned that plans are in place for the unbeaten former two-time WBC super middleweight titlist to next face Ukraine’s Oleksandr Gvozdyk, in a fight that would carry the interim WBC light heavyweight title.
https://www.ringtv.com/665241-david-benavidez-continues-to-target-canelo-oleksandr-gvozdyk-lined-up-as-contingency/#google_vignette
What's your thoughts on this one?
Winnable fight yet, but will it add something to David's legacy? Although the plan is to go and fight the winner of the superbowl of LHW division, Beterbiev vs. Bivol fight.
If David Benavidez fails to land a fight with Canelo as the latter is doing its best to avoid him then Gvozdyk is a keep busy fight for him and yes this will add to his legacy if he continues his winning streak. Targeting the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev is also a good one but risky one.
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I posted this on the other thread,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/24/YhFld.png)
https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1761166060751929635
Ryan wanted his fight in Las Vegas, but GBP says that it's going to be in Barclays Center. I don't know what's wrong with Barclays since it has also a capacity of 20,000 people or at least around that numbers.
Maybe he is not comfortable though and really prefer Las Vegas as his place to fight or at least it in in West Coast.
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Inoue vs Ancajas:
End of round 4 and it seems not a good fight for our Filipino champ as he was always hit with Inoue's counters. Have all the round for Inoue and I think the judges as well, the only thing for Ancajas to win this fight is via knockout.
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Inoue vs Ancajas:
End of round 4 and it seems not a good fight for our Filipino champ as he was always hit with Inoue's counters. Have all the round for Inoue and I think the judges as well, the only thing for Ancajas to win this fight is via knockout.
It's over mate, Inoue won by a knockout, that body shot, Ancajas can't take it.
Unfortunately, that's it for Jerwin, he doesn't have the pop against Inoue. This is winnable fight for him, but it is what it is. Inoue is too much for him. Time for Ancajas now to take a rest and maybe think what will be the next move.
He will have to take tune up fights again but not sure if he will be given a chance to fight for a belt in the next couple of years.
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Inoue vs Ancajas:
End of round 4 and it seems not a good fight for our Filipino champ as he was always hit with Inoue's counters. Have all the round for Inoue and I think the judges as well, the only thing for Ancajas to win this fight is via knockout.
We all know what happened two prominent Filipino fighters just lost their respective matches in the same way, a well-placed kidney punch, Sultan looks good and is ready to go toe to toe until he is hit with a perfectly placed kidney punch and Ancajas is also tying to go toe to toe but a body punch find its way in the left side of the body.
This is a disheartening loss the Filipino boxing community had high hopes in this event but unfortunately, it didn't go their way, lets see what's stored for these two boxers in the future.
This is the perfectly timed body punch by Matsuda on Sultan https://www.facebook.com/stories/107685901948323/
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In the context of Ngannou Vs Joshua, the PFL announced (as a BREAKING NEWS) that Francis will return to MMA and will face the winner of Renan Ferriera vs Ryan Bader fight:
https://bloodyelbow.com/2024/02/22/francis-ngannous-first-pfl-fight/
PFL's tweet:
https://twitter.com/PFLMMA/status/1760729268596920462
Is it a sign that Ngannou doesn't have high hopes for his boxing career - I don't know. But apparently, his PFL contract doesn't prevent him from competing in boxing. So maybe he intends to compete in both sports simultaneously, or maybe his return to MMA is contingent on the result of his fight against AJ.
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Inoue vs Ancajas:
End of round 4 and it seems not a good fight for our Filipino champ as he was always hit with Inoue's counters. Have all the round for Inoue and I think the judges as well, the only thing for Ancajas to win this fight is via knockout.
It's over mate, Inoue won by a knockout, that body shot, Ancajas can't take it.
Unfortunately, that's it for Jerwin, he doesn't have the pop against Inoue. This is winnable fight for him, but it is what it is. Inoue is too much for him. Time for Ancajas now to take a rest and maybe think what will be the next move.
He will have to take tune up fights again but not sure if he will be given a chance to fight for a belt in the next couple of years.
I thought that it was the other way around when Ancajas was trying to go to the body of Inoue and he had some success by doing that but when Inoue countered with a body attack of his own, Ancajas just knell down and the fight is over, what a sad day for Philippine boxing. Sultan and Ancajas lost their respective fights and I guess it's time for them to hang the gloves, what do you think.
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Inoue vs Ancajas:
End of round 4 and it seems not a good fight for our Filipino champ as he was always hit with Inoue's counters. Have all the round for Inoue and I think the judges as well, the only thing for Ancajas to win this fight is via knockout.
It's over mate, Inoue won by a knockout, that body shot, Ancajas can't take it.
Unfortunately, that's it for Jerwin, he doesn't have the pop against Inoue. This is winnable fight for him, but it is what it is. Inoue is too much for him. Time for Ancajas now to take a rest and maybe think what will be the next move.
He will have to take tune up fights again but not sure if he will be given a chance to fight for a belt in the next couple of years.
I thought that it was the other way around when Ancajas was trying to go to the body of Inoue and he had some success by doing that but when Inoue countered with a body attack of his own, Ancajas just knell down and the fight is over, what a sad day for Philippine boxing. Sultan and Ancajas lost their respective fights and I guess it's time for them to hang the gloves, what do you think.
I think they can still fight, but not sure if they can be a world champion again. But we have to accept it, we need to developed more boxers from the South and hopefully we can see another Manny Pacquiao.
Dave Apolinario though won his fight, not after he himself gets knockdown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lIEGtHHS-4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lIEGtHHS-4)
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Inoue vs Ancajas:
End of round 4 and it seems not a good fight for our Filipino champ as he was always hit with Inoue's counters. Have all the round for Inoue and I think the judges as well, the only thing for Ancajas to win this fight is via knockout.
It's over mate, Inoue won by a knockout, that body shot, Ancajas can't take it.
Unfortunately, that's it for Jerwin, he doesn't have the pop against Inoue. This is winnable fight for him, but it is what it is. Inoue is too much for him. Time for Ancajas now to take a rest and maybe think what will be the next move.
He will have to take tune up fights again but not sure if he will be given a chance to fight for a belt in the next couple of years.
I thought that it was the other way around when Ancajas was trying to go to the body of Inoue and he had some success by doing that but when Inoue countered with a body attack of his own, Ancajas just knell down and the fight is over, what a sad day for Philippine boxing. Sultan and Ancajas lost their respective fights and I guess it's time for them to hang the gloves, what do you think.
I think they can still fight, but not sure if they can be a world champion again. But we have to accept it, we need to developed more boxers from the South and hopefully we can see another Manny Pacquiao.
Dave Apolinario though won his fight, not after he himself gets knockdown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lIEGtHHS-4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lIEGtHHS-4)
I saw the highlights of that fight, Dave Apolinario is regarding as one of the best prospects that we have in the Philippines at the moment, hope his momentum will continue and also hope he will work out on why he was knockdown.
The scenario of Philippine boxing is good at the moment with only Casimero as the hope to bring back the title but he is not young anymore.
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In the context of Ngannou Vs Joshua, the PFL announced (as a BREAKING NEWS) that Francis will return to MMA and will face the winner of Renan Ferriera vs Ryan Bader fight:
https://bloodyelbow.com/2024/02/22/francis-ngannous-first-pfl-fight/
PFL's tweet:
https://twitter.com/PFLMMA/status/1760729268596920462
Is it a sign that Ngannou doesn't have high hopes for his boxing career - I don't know. But apparently, his PFL contract doesn't prevent him from competing in boxing. So maybe he intends to compete in both sports simultaneously, or maybe his return to MMA is contingent on the result of his fight against AJ.
they have it in their PFL contract afaik that Francis can still fight in boxing while he can also fight in PFL and this is due to him as part of PFL Africa ambassador. before Ngannou, PFL does get much coverage on big media but this time its reaching my feed already. Dana missed the opportunity of the biggest cross promotional event in combat sport.
AJ and Fury are the biggest names in boxing and its dragging Francis up to be counted as one as well. Francis is fighting the winner between Renan Ferriera vs Ryan Bader fight regardless of whether he wins against AJ. to me, this is like reassuring he will win.
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In the context of Ngannou Vs Joshua, the PFL announced (as a BREAKING NEWS) that Francis will return to MMA and will face the winner of Renan Ferriera vs Ryan Bader fight:
https://bloodyelbow.com/2024/02/22/francis-ngannous-first-pfl-fight/
PFL's tweet:
https://twitter.com/PFLMMA/status/1760729268596920462
Is it a sign that Ngannou doesn't have high hopes for his boxing career - I don't know. But apparently, his PFL contract doesn't prevent him from competing in boxing. So maybe he intends to compete in both sports simultaneously, or maybe his return to MMA is contingent on the result of his fight against AJ.
they have it in their PFL contract afaik that Francis can still fight in boxing while he can also fight in PFL and this is due to him as part of PFL Africa ambassador. before Ngannou, PFL does get much coverage on big media but this time its reaching my feed already. Dana missed the opportunity of the biggest cross promotional event in combat sport.
AJ and Fury are the biggest names in boxing and its dragging Francis up to be counted as one as well. Francis is fighting the winner between Renan Ferriera vs Ryan Bader fight regardless of whether he wins against AJ. to me, this is like reassuring he will win.
Yep, good to hear that Francis has a fall back and that it was nice to hear the PFL is willing to give Francis a free will to fight in boxing with AJ. And as we all know that this is the biggest fight for Francis as we have witnessed that he can fight with the big boys of boxing and even put them down in the canvass.
But obviously, there are more money in boxing and I think after the contract with PFL, he might go full pro in boxing and chase that dream to become a Heavyweight champion and that will be a history in the making.
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Is it a sign that Ngannou doesn't have high hopes for his boxing career - I don't know. But apparently, his PFL contract doesn't prevent him from competing in boxing. So maybe he intends to compete in both sports simultaneously, or maybe his return to MMA is contingent on the result of his fight against AJ.
There is nobody else who can do what Ngannou is doing, and he deserves to be respected for this.
Boxers are never going make adventure for less money in MMA, and other MMA fighters are not attractive for boxing champions.
I want to see Jon Jones in boxing, this could be dream supefight that never happened in MMA, but Dana wont allow him to do that ;D
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This youtube channel just showed on my feed
ProBoxTV:
It's live streaming what looks like fights of up and coming boxers. I've only watched 2 matches (8-rounder and 10-rounder) so far and I can say that the card is quite good. One fight was only spoiled by one of the judges scoring 98-91 to a closely contested bout.
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It's live streaming what looks like fights of up and coming boxers. I've only watched 2 matches (8-rounder and 10-rounder) so far and I can say that the card is quite good. One fight was only spoiled by one of the judges scoring 98-91 to a closely contested bout.
Yeah, right, looks like they are up and coming boxers and to be honest it's the first time i saw the names of those boxers and not seen any of them in a live fight.
About your rant of the judges scores, it always happens in boxing where the judges score a one-sided fight when we thought it was close, part of boxing politics.
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About your rant of the judges scores, it always happens in boxing where the judges score a one-sided fight when we thought it was close, part of boxing politics.
I think it's normal for Zed0X to feel disappointed with the jury's assessment, which makes him a bit angry and makes him say harsh words. The jury sometimes plays political money games given by several groups. The next judge is the boxer's strength. to challenge the jury's decision.
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There is nobody else who can do what Ngannou is doing, and he deserves to be respected for this.
Boxers are never going make adventure for less money in MMA, and other MMA fighters are not attractive for boxing champions.
I want to see Jon Jones in boxing, this could be dream supefight that never happened in MMA, but Dana wont allow him to do that ;D
From other threads I thought you wanted to see Ngannou fighting Jones in an MMA fight. Matching them up for a boxing bout would be a bizarre move (and extremely unlikely). They both are complete fighters reaching the top, so why would they limit themselves to just one element of their game? What would that prove anyway? That would not confirm who's a better fighter overall, we could as well set them up for a power slap competition.
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Have you guys seen this small but cool retro boxing video game Knockout Chaos?
You can choose to select one fighter Joshua or Ngannou and try to win in the fight.
This is cool way to promote this fight and it is free:
https://www.knockoutchaos.com/
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Have you guys seen this small but cool retro boxing video game Knockout Chaos?
You can choose to select one fighter Joshua or Ngannou and try to win in the fight.
This is cool way to promote this fight and it is free:
https://www.knockoutchaos.com/
Yes, seen this links for the other forum, it's old school kind of games and I do agree that it's way cooler to see this kind of promotions and it's brilliant to the people who think of it.
As for Canelo and who is he fighting, it could really be Berlanga. David Benavidez name is out of the picture, as Canelo is really avoiding him at this point and choosing easy opponents for this supposedly "legacy". So for me there is no legacy and obviously, Canelo is looking for easy pacheck, like in his last two fights of John Ryder and Charlo.
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As for Canelo and who is he fighting, it could really be Berlanga. David Benavidez name is out of the picture, as Canelo is really avoiding him at this point and choosing easy opponents for this supposedly "legacy". So for me there is no legacy and obviously, Canelo is looking for easy pacheck, like in his last two fights of John Ryder and Charlo.
Wow, cherry-picking at its best if indeed Canelo's next opponent is Berlanga as this boxer has not proven anything yet in this sweet science and to think that his last few performances were not impressive, how come they decided to bring him up as Canelo's next opponent, boxing politics again hehe.
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Link to promo game if anyone is interested: https://www.knockoutchaos.com/
credit to Jating (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480577.msg63734438#msg63734438)
I had a go and managed to beat up Ngannou on the 2nd attempt.
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That's an interesting way of promoting a fight, I don't think anyone has done it in the past. They could have done a little better with playability, i.e. add body shots etc.
Only two days to go and not much has changed in terms of odds, AJ is still the favourite at x1.27, and betting on Francis you can get x3.75 which is not that much really considering it's only his 2nd boxing fight.
Link to the press conference:
Shorter version:
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^^ Yes saw the final press conference.
Ngannou is straight up gangsta when he talk to Fury and says that boxing rule protected him and that he will beat him twice in Sunday, hehehehe
Everyone for sure is very excited, just a couple of days from now and we will see it. There are group of boxing fans that think that Ngannou will have a great chance to knockout out Joshua if he can land that trade mark power of him.
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Report says that Canelo will be fighting Jaime Munguia next,
https://boxing-social.com/news/canelo-alvarez-jaime-munguia-two-networks/
And so two networks are going to cover this fight, and the last time we heard, this is the only issues that needs to be settled. I think this is still a easy fight for Canelo, no doubt that Munguia could be one of the best in the 168 lbs, but he is still too young to fight Canelo as this point of his career.
Although we have seen Canelo taking less risk in this career and this is another proof of it.
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Link to promo game if anyone is interested: https://www.knockoutchaos.com/
credit to Jating (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480577.msg63734438#msg63734438)
Thanks for the mentioned mate, (+1 for you)
Yes, this fight is near now, the last press conference is done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFx55fdyY8I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFx55fdyY8I)
Both are in great shapes, and you can hear a lot of fans of both sides in attendance. For sure boxing fans are very excited to see this fight in the next 24 hours.
Ngannou 272.6 lbs
Joshua 252.4 lbs
That's a huge difference in weight, and I think it will play a big role in this fight.
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Only two days to go and not much has changed in terms of odds, AJ is still the favourite at x1.27, and betting on Francis you can get x3.75 which is not that much really considering it's only his 2nd boxing fight.
I want odds to drop more on Joshua so that I could take a bet on Ngannou with better odds.
Joshua doesnt look confident to me and I think he is a little concerned about this fight, defeat against Ngannou can ruin his carrier and shake up the boxing world.
Maybe this would be good for both sports and I know Dana White hate to see Ngannou win ;D
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Short video from official weight-ins and the face-off:
i=LU5LGwkRUBVHT7IG
Ngannou weighed 272.6 pounds (123.6 kg), while Joshua was 252.4 pounds (114.5 kg) (as Jating has already mentioned above). Francis is noticeably heavier, but that's not a very significant advantage for a heavyweight fight. His weight is almost the same as in the fight with Fury.
AJ has some height advantage, but Ngannou has already proven he knows how to deal with that.
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One more news: apparently Jake Paul (wannabe boxer slash youtuber) will be fighting Mike Tyson on 20th July.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68504821
Tyson will be 58 at the date of the fight, Paul is 31 years younger than him (27 y.o). That's a huge age gap (possibly the biggest in boxing history?).
I am not surprised that Mike agreed to the fight, and from Paul's perspective that's also a good choice, as the fight is easy to hype, and if manages to avoid a KO by Tyson, he could then spin it as his success.
Any thoughts on that fight?
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One more news: apparently Jake Paul (wannabe boxer slash youtuber) will be fighting Mike Tyson on 20th July.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68504821
Tyson will be 58 at the date of the fight, Paul is 31 years younger than him (27 y.o). That's a huge age gap (possibly the biggest in boxing history?).
I am not surprised that Mike agreed to the fight, and from Paul's perspective that's also a good choice, as the fight is easy to hype, and if manages to avoid a KO by Tyson, he could then spin it as his success.
Any thoughts on that fight?
At age 58, i don't think Mike Tyson could hurt Jake Paul even though he is just a wannabe boxer. But you are right, this fight is not hard to sell as people will not to see how Mike Tyson could perform in this stage of his life.
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One more news: apparently Jake Paul (wannabe boxer slash youtuber) will be fighting Mike Tyson on 20th July.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68504821
Tyson will be 58 at the date of the fight, Paul is 31 years younger than him (27 y.o). That's a huge age gap (possibly the biggest in boxing history?).
I am not surprised that Mike agreed to the fight, and from Paul's perspective that's also a good choice, as the fight is easy to hype, and if manages to avoid a KO by Tyson, he could then spin it as his success.
Any thoughts on that fight?
At age 58, i don't think Mike Tyson could hurt Jake Paul even though he is just a wannabe boxer. But you are right, this fight is not hard to sell as people will not to see how Mike Tyson could perform in this stage of his life.
People are going to be excited hearing Mike Tyson going to fight again even it is just an exhibition match. I think Mike is still very active, we've seen him train Francis Ngannou against Tyson Fury.
And that famous defense of his, wobbling his head and the throwing that uppercut. Initial reports listed Jake Paul as the favorite, definitely he is the younger between the two the more active. But we all know that Tyson could still have that power behind his punch so we will see if that is true or not.
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One more news: apparently Jake Paul (wannabe boxer slash youtuber) will be fighting Mike Tyson on 20th July.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68504821
Tyson will be 58 at the date of the fight, Paul is 31 years younger than him (27 y.o). That's a huge age gap (possibly the biggest in boxing history?).
I am not surprised that Mike agreed to the fight, and from Paul's perspective that's also a good choice, as the fight is easy to hype, and if manages to avoid a KO by Tyson, he could then spin it as his success.
Any thoughts on that fight?
At age 58, i don't think Mike Tyson could hurt Jake Paul even though he is just a wannabe boxer. But you are right, this fight is not hard to sell as people will not to see how Mike Tyson could perform in this stage of his life.
People are going to be excited hearing Mike Tyson going to fight again even it is just an exhibition match. I think Mike is still very active, we've seen him train Francis Ngannou against Tyson Fury.
And that famous defense of his, wobbling his head and the throwing that uppercut. Initial reports listed Jake Paul as the favorite, definitely he is the younger between the two the more active. But we all know that Tyson could still have that power behind his punch so we will see if that is true or not.
Most of the people that posted their comments in social media think that Jake Paul is in danger of this exhibition fight as Mike Tyson, though old but still got the power. IMHO, i don't think that could be the scenario as Jake Paul will be very mindful of Tyson's power so as much as he could, he will try to avoid Tyson's punches to touch him.
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I created this thread to discuss everything about boxing, schedule fights, odds and prediction. Might be good to have just one thread in this community. It might not be very big as the other forum, but as we grow maybe this thread will also move as there could be a lot of boxing fans around this forum.
https://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-vs-buakaw-banchamek-exhibition-fight-set-april-20--180341
A date has been set down for the exhibition fight between Manny Pacquiao and Buakaw Banchamek.
According to the Banchamek Gym Facebook page, the date of April 20 has been finalized. The event is being organized by Thailand’s Fresh Air Festival Co Ltd and cinema operator SF Corporation.
The bout will be fought under traditional boxing rules.
So we will have the legendary Manny Pacquiao against another legend in Buakaw scheduled for April 20 this year.
Obviously, Manny will have the advantage here as the rules will be boxing and we all know that Manny during his prime is one of the best and always in the discussion for the GOAT.
Any thoughts on this fight?
Concerning boxing matches for this month and next month.for the month of March, we have one heavy weight and middleweight fight: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou, for the heavyweight fight why Tim Tszyu vs Keith Thurman for the middleweight.
For the month of April, we have to welterweight flights in the month of April:Devin Haney vs Ryan Gracia, and next Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall .
What are your prediction concerning the fights
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Ngannou vs Joshua fight is starting soon and I am hoping to see biggest surprise ever in boxing world.
I love the good underdog story and Ngannou looked better to me in all pre fight interviews and faceoffs.
Both fighters learned something from previous fights but I think Joshua has much more to lose.
I want to see Ngannou vs Fury rematch next and for that Ngannou needs to win today
Here is my bet for this fight: https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/65eb88aa582784001fd934ea
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Ngannou vs Joshua fight is starting soon and I am hoping to see biggest surprise ever in boxing world.
I love the good underdog story and Ngannou looked better to me in all pre fight interviews and faceoffs.
Both fighters learned something from previous fights but I think Joshua has much more to lose.
I want to see Ngannou vs Fury rematch next and for that Ngannou needs to win today
Here is my bet for this fight: https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/65eb88aa582784001fd934ea
Good bet but for me if the fight goes the distance, AJ might win so for Ngannou to win he should be aggressive and knockout Joshua. AJ's confidence wasn't fully in him yet so a win by Ngannou is high at least for me.
Does the fight already started? I did not see the odds on sportsbet as of this writing.
edit: the fight already ended with AJ butally knocking out Francis.
https://twitter.com/bjpenndotcom/status/1766261771969703957
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Ngannou vs Joshua fight is starting soon and I am hoping to see biggest surprise ever in boxing world.
I love the good underdog story and Ngannou looked better to me in all pre fight interviews and faceoffs.
Both fighters learned something from previous fights but I think Joshua has much more to lose.
I want to see Ngannou vs Fury rematch next and for that Ngannou needs to win today
Here is my bet for this fight: https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/65eb88aa582784001fd934ea
Good bet but for me if the fight goes the distance, AJ might win so for Ngannou to win he should be aggressive and knockout Joshua. AJ's confidence wasn't fully in him yet so a win by Ngannou is high at least for me.
Does the fight already started? I did not see the odds on sportsbet as of this writing.
edit: the fight already ended with AJ butally knocking out Francis.
https://twitter.com/bjpenndotcom/status/1766261771969703957
Yes, what a devastating knockout by Joshua over Ngannou. We haven't thought that he could be as this dominated against a heavy puncher in Ngannou. But I guess Joshua's boxing experience and IQ are more evident in this fight as he didn't give any chance for Ngannou to make a comeback. But in second knockdown alone, you can see the demeanor of Francis has shifted and as if he knows that he is going to lose this fight. Similar to the looks of Manny Pacquiao when JMM knock him down surprisingly.
Good win by Joshua, now he sits and relaxes and for the outcome of Usyk vs Fury. Tyson is the favorite on that fight and so if that proves correct then we will see Joshua vs Fury next in Saudi Arabia again.
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What a brutal KO win that was!
I thought Ngannou will decide to take a break from boxing after this fight, but in post fight press conference he said absolutely not, he plans to continue boxing :o
Now we know that he can be defeated with a KO and everyone else will try to repeat the same when fighting against him.
If you didnt watch the full fight Ngannou vs Joshua it is enough to watch this few minute long highlights, but you can find full fight online:
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What a brutal KO win that was!
I thought Ngannou will decide to take a break from boxing after this fight, but in post fight press conference he said absolutely not, he plans to continue boxing :o
Now we know that he can be defeated with a KO and everyone else will try to repeat the same when fighting against him.
Yes, majority could have been disappointed of the outcome as Francis is no match against AJ. I think he can go back to PFL or that was the agreement that's why he was allowed to go to pro-boxer.
It's good to hear that he has no plans to stop boxing. Maybe he just experience waking up in the wrong side of the bed. Or Joshua is really that good and his timing in this fight is impeccable.
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Yes, majority could have been disappointed of the outcome as Francis is no match against AJ. I think he can go back to PFL or that was the agreement that's why he was allowed to go to pro-boxer.
It's good to hear that he has no plans to stop boxing. Maybe he just experience waking up in the wrong side of the bed. Or Joshua is really that good and his timing in this fight is impeccable.
Yeah, it's not that Francis is bad but Anthony Joshua was the better fighter that night and his timing was awesome. On the other hand, I think Francis Ngannou needs to fight B-level fighters before fighting a championship-caliber fighter like AJ or Fury.
I just wonder what's the odds of AJ winning by KO, have not browse the bookies lately for that fight.
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It's good to hear that he has no plans to stop boxing. Maybe he just experience waking up in the wrong side of the bed. Or Joshua is really that good and his timing in this fight is impeccable.
He learned a lot from Ngannou first fight against Tyson Fury so he was more careful and he was prepared with better tactics.
Ngannou rushed to much and he was over confident, that was the reason he finished on the ground so easy.
Good thing for Johsua is that he can now wait and prepare to face winner of Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk.
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It's good to hear that he has no plans to stop boxing. Maybe he just experience waking up in the wrong side of the bed. Or Joshua is really that good and his timing in this fight is impeccable.
He learned a lot from Ngannou first fight against Tyson Fury so he was more careful and he was prepared with better tactics.
Ngannou rushed to much and he was over confident, that was the reason he finished on the ground so easy.
Good thing for Johsua is that he can now wait and prepare to face winner of Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk.
Yes, it's more on Joshua's preparation in this fight. Joshua uses his tools this night and not allow Ngannou anything. Even if Ngannou switches to south paw, still Joshua adjusted as well.
And for me this should stop any MMA/UFC fighters from fighting boxers. We've seen already what could have happen. MMA/UFC fighters should stay in their boundaries, just saying.
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Breaking news:
Shakur Stevenson will come out of retirement and is expected to fight on July 6. His retirement is short-lived as expected.
Hope that he could perform well this coming July and prove to the fans that his last fight was just an off night.
https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-return-july-6-im-best-fighter-boxing--182087
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New boxing fight announced between two MMA fighters Jorge Masvid and Nate Diaz on June 1 in Los Angeles!
They already faced each other in UFC back in 2019 and I think Masvidal won with a KO, but it was a very bloody fight.
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New boxing fight announced between two MMA fighters Jorge Masvid and Nate Diaz on June 1 in Los Angeles!
They already faced each other in UFC back in 2019 and I think Masvidal won with a KO, but it was a very bloody fight.
Jorge might still win again but this is boxing. not sure how prepare these guys are when it comes to the gloves they are used to. it wasn't a close fight in their first encounter and masvidal obviously is in good shape still while diaz is way passed his prime this time. i doubt nate will win its amusing they call this a rematch but they are big personalities in MMA so there's got to be a big money to profit since there are still people interested to watch thats why the ppv price is $80? fvckit. :o
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Breaking news:
Shakur Stevenson will come out of retirement and is expected to fight on July 6. His retirement is short-lived as expected.
Hope that he could perform well this coming July and prove to the fans that his last fight was just an off night.
https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-return-july-6-im-best-fighter-boxing--182087
Gonna be interesting on who is he fighting next. I was under the impression that he might come out of the retirement and fight the winner of Loma vs Kambosos. However, as far as I know he no longer with Top Rank and has turn down their contract.
Or probably this is just a get busy fight for Shakur, and will still fight the winner of Loma vs Kambosos. Hopefully, it will be Loma, as the styles of this two are contrasting and we will see if Shakur's defense can hold up against the technical prowess sof Loma. But then again, Loma is could be old and his age might shows against George Kambosos.
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All boxing fans, these are the schedules of matches from the month of March to June 2024.
Which of the fight will be a must watch Fight, among the least of the fight from March to June 2024.
https://ibb.co/1Jr82Xj
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Sandy Ryan vs Terri Harper -WBO welterweight title, it's a great fight between two great fighter, will Terri Harper become the three times WBO welterweight champion if she can defeat sandy Ryan.
Saturday 23rd March, Utilita Arena Sheffield.
https://ibb.co/XtB1g3M
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encountered this news just today. its yet not fixed but it seem to be finalizing. Zhang fought 2 weeks ago with Parker and lost as undercard on AJ vs Francis Chaos but here they are planing to fight 3 months from now.
Deontay Wilder and Zhilei Zhang are in the process of finalizing a deal for a June 1 fight in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, sources told @mikecoppinger.
The bout will take place on the undercard of the Artur Beterbiev-Dmitry Bivol undisputed light heavyweight championship bout.
both lost against Parker by decision. i think anyone who wins this fight will get a rematch against Parker
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I have posted this in the other forum, but it's also better to post it here as we have boxing fans that has teleported,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/23/Jpwad.png)
https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745
What do you think guys? It seems that Turki Alalshikh has a beautiful plan. Forget Canelo for now, it will be David Benavidez to fight the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev and it will be held on Saudi or course.
We have speculated though that him moving at 175 lbs, sooner or later will have to face the winner of that great fight.
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I have posted this in the other forum, but it's also better to post it here as we have boxing fans that has teleported,
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https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745
What do you think guys? It seems that Turki Alalshikh has a beautiful plan. Forget Canelo for now, it will be David Benavidez to fight the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev and it will be held on Saudi or course.
We have speculated though that him moving at 175 lbs, sooner or later will have to face the winner of that great fight.
Beautiful plan of Turki Alalshikh indeed and Benavidez is like winning the lottery without having to go through Canelo. The good thing about this Alalshikh is that he is very willing to shell out large amounts of money just to bring the best fights that fans wanted to see.
But this fight is going to be risky for Benavidez as either Bivol or Beterbiev is a monster at 175 so he must have a tune-up bout to acquaint himself to this division before facing the champion.
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I have posted this in the other forum, but it's also better to post it here as we have boxing fans that has teleported,
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https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745
What do you think guys? It seems that Turki Alalshikh has a beautiful plan. Forget Canelo for now, it will be David Benavidez to fight the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev and it will be held on Saudi or course.
We have speculated though that him moving at 175 lbs, sooner or later will have to face the winner of that great fight.
Beautiful plan of Turki Alalshikh indeed and Benavidez is like winning the lottery without having to go through Canelo. The good thing about this Alalshikh is that he is very willing to shell out large amounts of money just to bring the best fights that fans wanted to see.
Yes, they have deep pockets, and we have seen the Saudis really sponsoring big fights since 2019 if I'm not mistaken. And with their billions, recently, they are the hub for big fans, except for some boxers that they don't like. And Eddie Hearn and other promoters are really into it, except Oscar Dela Hoya.
But this fight is going to be risky for Benavidez as either Bivol or Beterbiev is a monster at 175 so he must have a tune-up bout to acquaint himself to this division before facing the champion.
He had sparred with Bivol before, if I'm not mistaken. Not sure about Beterbiev. He will have a fight with Gvozdyk in June. But I guess it might be scrapped as well as he will be waiting for the result of Beterbiev vs Bivol and they might go this June.
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I have posted this in the other forum, but it's also better to post it here as we have boxing fans that has teleported,
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https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745 (https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745)
What do you think guys? It seems that Turki Alalshikh has a beautiful plan. Forget Canelo for now, it will be David Benavidez to fight the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev and it will be held on Saudi or course.
We have speculated though that him moving at 175 lbs, sooner or later will have to face the winner of that great fight.
Beautiful plan of Turki Alalshikh indeed and Benavidez is like winning the lottery without having to go through Canelo. The good thing about this Alalshikh is that he is very willing to shell out large amounts of money just to bring the best fights that fans wanted to see.
But this fight is going to be risky for Benavidez as either Bivol or Beterbiev is a monster at 175 so he must have a tune-up bout to acquaint himself to this division before facing the champion.
That's the advantage of the Saudi, they have a lot of money, and he is also really a big fan of boxing and knows that fight make sense and what fight is just for pure hype. And I like what David Benavidez did here, he engage Saudi's big boss through social media and so he has to respond to it. And the good thing is that he is all on-board with Benavidez and not Canelo. I think he see Canelo as somewhat arrogant boxer (this is just my speculation), just by interpreting his response. Nevertheless it's a great fight, no question about it. Benavidez vs Bivol, or Benavidez vs Beterbiev. A potential to be fight of the year.
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I have posted this in the other forum, but it's also better to post it here as we have boxing fans that has teleported,
~snip~
https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745 (https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745)
What do you think guys? It seems that Turki Alalshikh has a beautiful plan. Forget Canelo for now, it will be David Benavidez to fight the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev and it will be held on Saudi or course.
We have speculated though that him moving at 175 lbs, sooner or later will have to face the winner of that great fight.
Beautiful plan of Turki Alalshikh indeed and Benavidez is like winning the lottery without having to go through Canelo. The good thing about this Alalshikh is that he is very willing to shell out large amounts of money just to bring the best fights that fans wanted to see.
But this fight is going to be risky for Benavidez as either Bivol or Beterbiev is a monster at 175 so he must have a tune-up bout to acquaint himself to this division before facing the champion.
That's the advantage of the Saudi, they have a lot of money, and he is also really a big fan of boxing and knows that fight make sense and what fight is just for pure hype. And I like what David Benavidez did here, he engage Saudi's big boss through social media and so he has to respond to it. And the good thing is that he is all on-board with Benavidez and not Canelo. I think he see Canelo as somewhat arrogant boxer (this is just my speculation), just by interpreting his response. Nevertheless it's a great fight, no question about it. Benavidez vs Bivol, or Benavidez vs Beterbiev. A potential to be fight of the year.
Canelo, in an interview said that it would take 150-200 million usd for him to have a fight with Benavidez, that alone for me is a sign of arrogance and an act cowardness, no offense to Canelo fans but that is how some of us saw that one. Good thing that Saudi's big boss is not offerring the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev to Canelo.
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I have posted this in the other forum, but it's also better to post it here as we have boxing fans that has teleported,
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https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745 (https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745)
What do you think guys? It seems that Turki Alalshikh has a beautiful plan. Forget Canelo for now, it will be David Benavidez to fight the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev and it will be held on Saudi or course.
We have speculated though that him moving at 175 lbs, sooner or later will have to face the winner of that great fight.
Beautiful plan of Turki Alalshikh indeed and Benavidez is like winning the lottery without having to go through Canelo. The good thing about this Alalshikh is that he is very willing to shell out large amounts of money just to bring the best fights that fans wanted to see.
But this fight is going to be risky for Benavidez as either Bivol or Beterbiev is a monster at 175 so he must have a tune-up bout to acquaint himself to this division before facing the champion.
That's the advantage of the Saudi, they have a lot of money, and he is also really a big fan of boxing and knows that fight make sense and what fight is just for pure hype. And I like what David Benavidez did here, he engage Saudi's big boss through social media and so he has to respond to it. And the good thing is that he is all on-board with Benavidez and not Canelo. I think he see Canelo as somewhat arrogant boxer (this is just my speculation), just by interpreting his response. Nevertheless it's a great fight, no question about it. Benavidez vs Bivol, or Benavidez vs Beterbiev. A potential to be fight of the year.
Canelo, in an interview said that it would take 150-200 million usd for him to have a fight with Benavidez, that alone for me is a sign of arrogance and an act cowardness, no offense to Canelo fans but that is how some of us saw that one. Good thing that Saudi's big boss is not offerring the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev to Canelo.
Yes, lately I will also say that Canelo is really being arrogant, or getting into someone's nerve with that ridiculous money that he wanted. He is even bending some rules as well like not fighting his mandatory and boxing organizations just say yes to his demand.
It will be his big loss if the Saudi big boss will ignore Canelo because of his attitude. What the Saudi want is the Benavidez fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev obviously in Saudi.
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I have posted this in the other forum, but it's also better to post it here as we have boxing fans that has teleported,
~snip~
https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745 (https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745)
What do you think guys? It seems that Turki Alalshikh has a beautiful plan. Forget Canelo for now, it will be David Benavidez to fight the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev and it will be held on Saudi or course.
We have speculated though that him moving at 175 lbs, sooner or later will have to face the winner of that great fight.
Beautiful plan of Turki Alalshikh indeed and Benavidez is like winning the lottery without having to go through Canelo. The good thing about this Alalshikh is that he is very willing to shell out large amounts of money just to bring the best fights that fans wanted to see.
But this fight is going to be risky for Benavidez as either Bivol or Beterbiev is a monster at 175 so he must have a tune-up bout to acquaint himself to this division before facing the champion.
That's the advantage of the Saudi, they have a lot of money, and he is also really a big fan of boxing and knows that fight make sense and what fight is just for pure hype. And I like what David Benavidez did here, he engage Saudi's big boss through social media and so he has to respond to it. And the good thing is that he is all on-board with Benavidez and not Canelo. I think he see Canelo as somewhat arrogant boxer (this is just my speculation), just by interpreting his response. Nevertheless it's a great fight, no question about it. Benavidez vs Bivol, or Benavidez vs Beterbiev. A potential to be fight of the year.
Canelo, in an interview said that it would take 150-200 million usd for him to have a fight with Benavidez, that alone for me is a sign of arrogance and an act cowardness, no offense to Canelo fans but that is how some of us saw that one. Good thing that Saudi's big boss is not offerring the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev to Canelo.
Yes, lately I will also say that Canelo is really being arrogant, or getting into someone's nerve with that ridiculous money that he wanted. He is even bending some rules as well like not fighting his mandatory and boxing organizations just say yes to his demand.
It will be his big loss if the Saudi big boss will ignore Canelo because of his attitude. What the Saudi want is the Benavidez fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev obviously in Saudi.
There is no one to blame but the organizations themselves. They let Canelo do everything he can without any repercussions, allowed him to choose his opponents and then not forcing mandatories for him.
Now Canelo has to pay the price literally as he is being sidestep by the Saudis and not even invited to any event on the Middle East. While Benavidez and Beterbiev and Bivol are getting special treatment for His Excellency Alalshikh, being the biggest broker in boxing right now.
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Good news for Philippine boxing, after a long drought, finally we have a championship belt courtesy of Melvin Jerusalem after he defeated Yudai Shigeoka for the WBO version of the minimum weight title. Hope this is beginning of the bright future of Philippine boxing and more championship belts to come.
Melvin Jerusalem (22-3, 12 KOs) squeezed out a hard fought split decision win on away soil to relieve Yudai Shigeoka (8-1, 5 KOs) WBC minimumweight world title.
Jerusalem becomes a two-time world champion. Japan has become a happy hunting ground for the Filipino, having knocked out Masataka Taniguchi last May in Osaka for the WBO 105 pound belt.
One judge scored in favour of Shigeoka with just a point in it at 114-113. The other two judges had it identical at 114-112 for Jerusalem to give the away fighter the split decision victory.
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Good news for Philippine boxing, after a long drought, finally we have a championship belt courtesy of Melvin Jerusalem after he defeated Yudai Shigeoka for the WBO version of the minimum weight title. Hope this is beginning of the bright future of Philippine boxing and more championship belts to come.
Melvin Jerusalem (22-3, 12 KOs) squeezed out a hard fought split decision win on away soil to relieve Yudai Shigeoka (8-1, 5 KOs) WBC minimumweight world title.
Jerusalem becomes a two-time world champion. Japan has become a happy hunting ground for the Filipino, having knocked out Masataka Taniguchi last May in Osaka for the WBO 105 pound belt.
One judge scored in favour of Shigeoka with just a point in it at 114-113. The other two judges had it identical at 114-112 for Jerusalem to give the away fighter the split decision victory.
Is Melvin the only Filipino champion right now? I think so. but I have been hearing his name for quite some time now and I don't know if he has lost the belt or regain it back from the Japanese boxer. So base on the score, it was really a very close fight, and one Japanese judge obviously favors Shigeoka. But it's good that for the PH, they still have a champion as we all know that some of their legends have retired and we haven't heard from Casimero as he is supposedly the big PH boxer.
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Good news for Philippine boxing, after a long drought, finally we have a championship belt courtesy of Melvin Jerusalem after he defeated Yudai Shigeoka for the WBO version of the minimum weight title. Hope this is beginning of the bright future of Philippine boxing and more championship belts to come.
Melvin Jerusalem (22-3, 12 KOs) squeezed out a hard fought split decision win on away soil to relieve Yudai Shigeoka (8-1, 5 KOs) WBC minimumweight world title.
Jerusalem becomes a two-time world champion. Japan has become a happy hunting ground for the Filipino, having knocked out Masataka Taniguchi last May in Osaka for the WBO 105 pound belt.
One judge scored in favour of Shigeoka with just a point in it at 114-113. The other two judges had it identical at 114-112 for Jerusalem to give the away fighter the split decision victory.
Is Melvin the only Filipino champion right now? I think so. but I have been hearing his name for quite some time now and I don't know if he has lost the belt or regain it back from the Japanese boxer. So base on the score, it was really a very close fight, and one Japanese judge obviously favors Shigeoka. But it's good that for the PH, they still have a champion as we all know that some of their legends have retired and we haven't heard from Casimero as he is supposedly the big PH boxer.
I think so, he is the only reigning Filipino champion.
Casimero might be working for another fight as he is quiet lately.
As for the Fundora vs Tsyzu fight, it was reported that Fundora was ordered by the WBO to defend his belt against Crawford and start the negotiation. So I guess we won't see the rematch against Tim. Or Tim will have to wait and he will have the first crack as who will win on that fight.
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Good news for Philippine boxing, after a long drought, finally we have a championship belt courtesy of Melvin Jerusalem after he defeated Yudai Shigeoka for the WBO version of the minimum weight title. Hope this is beginning of the bright future of Philippine boxing and more championship belts to come.
Melvin Jerusalem (22-3, 12 KOs) squeezed out a hard fought split decision win on away soil to relieve Yudai Shigeoka (8-1, 5 KOs) WBC minimumweight world title.
Jerusalem becomes a two-time world champion. Japan has become a happy hunting ground for the Filipino, having knocked out Masataka Taniguchi last May in Osaka for the WBO 105 pound belt.
One judge scored in favour of Shigeoka with just a point in it at 114-113. The other two judges had it identical at 114-112 for Jerusalem to give the away fighter the split decision victory.
Is Melvin the only Filipino champion right now? I think so. but I have been hearing his name for quite some time now and I don't know if he has lost the belt or regain it back from the Japanese boxer. So base on the score, it was really a very close fight, and one Japanese judge obviously favors Shigeoka. But it's good that for the PH, they still have a champion as we all know that some of their legends have retired and we haven't heard from Casimero as he is supposedly the big PH boxer.
Right now, Melvin Jerusalem is the lone Filipino boxer with a belt. He once hold the the WBO version of the minimum weight category but lost to Oscar Collazo by knockout last year. He is now holding the WBC belt and planning to unified the WBO and WBC by fighting the dangerous Collazo once again but i doubt he could defeat Collazo because the latter is so technical and heavy handed. If i were his manager i would rather let him fight in a mandatory first before fighting for a unified title fight.
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Good news for Philippine boxing, after a long drought, finally we have a championship belt courtesy of Melvin Jerusalem after he defeated Yudai Shigeoka for the WBO version of the minimum weight title. Hope this is beginning of the bright future of Philippine boxing and more championship belts to come.
Melvin Jerusalem (22-3, 12 KOs) squeezed out a hard fought split decision win on away soil to relieve Yudai Shigeoka (8-1, 5 KOs) WBC minimumweight world title.
Jerusalem becomes a two-time world champion. Japan has become a happy hunting ground for the Filipino, having knocked out Masataka Taniguchi last May in Osaka for the WBO 105 pound belt.
One judge scored in favour of Shigeoka with just a point in it at 114-113. The other two judges had it identical at 114-112 for Jerusalem to give the away fighter the split decision victory.
Is Melvin the only Filipino champion right now? I think so. but I have been hearing his name for quite some time now and I don't know if he has lost the belt or regain it back from the Japanese boxer. So base on the score, it was really a very close fight, and one Japanese judge obviously favors Shigeoka. But it's good that for the PH, they still have a champion as we all know that some of their legends have retired and we haven't heard from Casimero as he is supposedly the big PH boxer.
Right now, Melvin Jerusalem is the lone Filipino boxer with a belt. He once hold the the WBO version of the minimum weight category but lost to Oscar Collazo by knockout last year. He is now holding the WBC belt and planning to unified the WBO and WBC by fighting the dangerous Collazo once again but i doubt he could defeat Collazo because the latter is so technical and heavy handed. If i were his manager i would rather let him fight in a mandatory first before fighting for a unified title fight.
Ok thanks for that information, yeah, I heard his name before but I can't recall it whether he has belts before or a new champion for the PH. I haven't yet research on that Collazo guy, maybe Melvin will have a hard time against him or is that Collazo is too good for him. Like Ancajas wherein he can't win against Puma Martinez even if they fight for a rematch. And it just shows that there are certain fighters who likes like a kryptonite for this boxers as they can't win against them.
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I heard the news that Cris Cyborg is preparing for another boxing fight, after she didnt receive the date for her next MMA fight that she asked for.
Exact date for her third boxing fight is not announced yet but want to see her back in action against some strong opponent.
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And this is what Canelo says for his fans and detractors alike,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/05/VcQaN.png)
https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1775939676144115840
So this is just my personal opinion, sooner or later he will go after Benavidez, but it should be at 168 lbs and Benavidez is moving up to 175 lbs and stop chasing Canelo for now.
What are your thoughts? Canelo vs Benavidez in the future or no?
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And this is what Canelo says for his fans and detractors alike,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/05/VcQaN.png)
https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1775939676144115840
So this is just my personal opinion, sooner or later he will go after Benavidez, but it should be at 168 lbs and Benavidez is moving up to 175 lbs and stop chasing Canelo for now.
What are your thoughts? Canelo vs Benavidez in the future or no?
Why wait though when he can have Benavidez this year? He severe his ties with PBC so that he can stay away fro Benavidez, so that is a clear duck already. And then fighting Mexican in Jaime Munguia? Which he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican?
And the next schedule fight for him is Berlanga? So that clearly shows that Canelo doesn't want no part of David Benavidez at least for this year. But David is making his own, moving up to 175 lbs and not wanting to wait for Canelo as he might not have given Benavidez that chance next year.
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Why wait though when he can have Benavidez this year? He severe his ties with PBC so that he can stay away fro Benavidez, so that is a clear duck already. And then fighting Mexican in Jaime Munguia? Which he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican?
And the next schedule fight for him is Berlanga? So that clearly shows that Canelo doesn't want no part of David Benavidez at least for this year. But David is making his own, moving up to 175 lbs and not wanting to wait for Canelo as he might not have given Benavidez that chance next year.
Canelo is enjoying the ride of being champion, imagine fighting low-level fighters and at the same time making millions what could he ask for more, he is getting a lot of criticism because of
the boxing community doesn't like this, there is no challenge, this is the only Mexican champion that's ducking boxers who many people believe will beat him.
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Why wait though when he can have Benavidez this year? He severe his ties with PBC so that he can stay away fro Benavidez, so that is a clear duck already. And then fighting Mexican in Jaime Munguia? Which he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican?
And the next schedule fight for him is Berlanga? So that clearly shows that Canelo doesn't want no part of David Benavidez at least for this year. But David is making his own, moving up to 175 lbs and not wanting to wait for Canelo as he might not have given Benavidez that chance next year.
Canelo is enjoying the ride of being champion, imagine fighting low-level fighters and at the same time making millions what could he ask for more, he is getting a lot of criticism because of
the boxing community doesn't like this, there is no challenge, this is the only Mexican champion that's ducking boxers who many people believe will beat him.
Canelo is now starting to fight Mexican, so i think Benavidez is the next. he's gonna have to answer the people who sends the message that he is ducking David otherwise the boxing community will just be laughing behind him.
he doesn't have the perfect zero loss anyway, i think he should be going for the legit boxers who can really challenge the p4p. there is nowhere else to go for Canelo but 175 also, they may be able to meet there.
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Why wait though when he can have Benavidez this year? He severe his ties with PBC so that he can stay away fro Benavidez, so that is a clear duck already. And then fighting Mexican in Jaime Munguia? Which he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican?
And the next schedule fight for him is Berlanga? So that clearly shows that Canelo doesn't want no part of David Benavidez at least for this year. But David is making his own, moving up to 175 lbs and not wanting to wait for Canelo as he might not have given Benavidez that chance next year.
Canelo is enjoying the ride of being champion, imagine fighting low-level fighters and at the same time making millions what could he ask for more, he is getting a lot of criticism because of
the boxing community doesn't like this, there is no challenge, this is the only Mexican champion that's ducking boxers who many people believe will beat him.
Canelo is now starting to fight Mexican, so i think Benavidez is the next. he's gonna have to answer the people who sends the message that he is ducking David otherwise the boxing community will just be laughing behind him.
he doesn't have the perfect zero loss anyway, i think he should be going for the legit boxers who can really challenge the p4p. there is nowhere else to go for Canelo but 175 also, they may be able to meet there.
Canelo said though that he is not going to please anyone, so maybe he will fight Benavidez next or not. And it is reported that after this fight with Munguia and assuming he will win, next in line for him is Berlanga of Puerto Rico, another hype fighter and young in the mold of Jaime Munguia.
Benavidez has a fight now at Light HW and then if he wins he will challenge for the belt as whoever wins between the 2 Russians, Bivol and Beterbiev. The good thing for us fans is that it's going to be a busy year for this boxers and hopefully everyone will go in the mix and Canelo moving up to 175 lbs will create this noise fight again.
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Should not Canelo retire, at least for some time? I have been hearing his name for a long time already. I assume he has earned from boxing so much money already, that it takes him time to think where to spend them. Isnt he tired of winning everyone in his division? No matter who he faces, he wins in a dominant manner (if we talk only about his division). Almost 20 years in boxing, 60+ professional fights. How long is he planning to box more? Do people still interested in watching him winning? Because every time I see his name, people only discuss how he will win and who he will face next, and how he will win again.
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How time flies,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/08/VWc8C.png)
https://www.ringtv.com/665816-naoya-inoue-luis-nery-set-may-6-in-tokyo-three-title-fights-confirmed-for-undercard/
In just a month we will finally see Inoue again. Although Nery is a great fighter, I don't think that he can stop this version of Inoue who is about to reach his prime years. And I think everyone will agree that Nery has a slim chance.
Nery is a 7:1 underdog in this fight.
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Should not Canelo retire, at least for some time? I have been hearing his name for a long time already. I assume he has earned from boxing so much money already, that it takes him time to think where to spend them. Isnt he tired of winning everyone in his division? No matter who he faces, he wins in a dominant manner (if we talk only about his division). Almost 20 years in boxing, 60+ professional fights. How long is he planning to box more? Do people still interested in watching him winning? Because every time I see his name, people only discuss how he will win and who he will face next, and how he will win again.
He is what we call the "cash-cow" in boxing, meaning every fight, he is the A-side and can command huge amount of money because fans are willing to watch him live and thru PPV. Yes, he has been in the boxing for many years and enjoying his life as he could be worth millions already.
Really hard to say when he is going to quit because he can still fight. Maybe if he losses to Munguia, then he can contemplate of retiring. But as of now, perhaps a good 3-4 fights left in him.
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This is not one of the money fights that's commonly discussed in boxing thread and it's a bit controversial to some but have you heard/read about the trans who fought professionally and was knocked out inside 21 seconds? I don't mean to offend their group but I'm glad that the fighter experienced it early.
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This is not one of the money fights that's commonly discussed in boxing thread and it's a bit controversial to some but have you heard/read about the trans who fought professionally and was knocked out inside 21 seconds? I don't mean to offend their group but I'm glad that the fighter experienced it early.
And yet he said that he will continue to fight despite the lost. This is the first time that he had a L and so he still thinks that he can make it big in boxing as he was a great boxer in his previous life.
"I’m not one to hide my face no matter the outcome….I lost last night," Manuel wrote.
"I trained my a** off, had great sparring, cut no corners. But sometimes s*** doesn’t go your way.
"It’s a risk we all take when we step in the ring. It’s what is exciting about boxing - and also the most heartbreaking.
"The most important part is I am healthy. I am deeply disappointed and to be honest, my ego is bruised.
https://talksport.com/sport/1822351/transgender-boxer-patricio-manuel-knockout-loss/
We can't prevent him from pursuing his dreams, if it the right decision for him, then let it be. World is really changing nowadays and everyone has his/her own rights and go where they think is right for them.
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How time flies,
~snip~
https://www.ringtv.com/665816-naoya-inoue-luis-nery-set-may-6-in-tokyo-three-title-fights-confirmed-for-undercard/
In just a month we will finally see Inoue again. Although Nery is a great fighter, I don't think that he can stop this version of Inoue who is about to reach his prime years. And I think everyone will agree that Nery has a slim chance.
Nery is a 7:1 underdog in this fight.
Agree, Luis Nery has a slim chance of winning this fight. A consolation maybe if he can withstand the Japanese Monster's bombardment for the full 12 rounds. At the moment, Inoue for me is unbeatable in this division and like you said, he is at his peak and he is fighting in his comforn zone so the odds for Nery to capture the belts is very slim. Less than a month to go and we could see the monster fighting again, how time flies ;D.
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How time flies,
~snip~
https://www.ringtv.com/665816-naoya-inoue-luis-nery-set-may-6-in-tokyo-three-title-fights-confirmed-for-undercard/
In just a month we will finally see Inoue again. Although Nery is a great fighter, I don't think that he can stop this version of Inoue who is about to reach his prime years. And I think everyone will agree that Nery has a slim chance.
Nery is a 7:1 underdog in this fight.
Agree, Luis Nery has a slim chance of winning this fight. A consolation maybe if he can withstand the Japanese Monster's bombardment for the full 12 rounds. At the moment, Inoue for me is unbeatable in this division and like you said, he is at his peak and he is fighting in his comforn zone so the odds for Nery to capture the belts is very slim. Less than a month to go and we could see the monster fighting again, how time flies ;D.
Yes mate, and if by chance Nery lasted 12 rounds and we but a bet on it, odds are pretty high at 15.00, hehehehe. I know for sure that you will be looking at this odds ;D.
And really hard to think what kind of fighter should beat his version of Inoue. He could have the combination of speed and power and boxing IQ and should have a granite chin to stay with the monster. But I don't see the Nery has all of this tools in his arsenal.
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Yes mate, and if by chance Nery lasted 12 rounds and we but a bet on it, odds are pretty high at 15.00, hehehehe. I know for sure that you will be looking at this odds ;D.
And really hard to think what kind of fighter should beat his version of Inoue. He could have the combination of speed and power and boxing IQ and should have a granite chin to stay with the monster. But I don't see the Nery has all of this tools in his arsenal.
That's the good thing about Inoue, he doesn't only have the speed and power but he also possess a tough chin which is comparable to Manny Pacquiao. Even Casimero will be having a very hard time figuring on how to win against the Japanese Monster as the former is the only one left in the Philippines that have a chance to fight him.
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Yes mate, and if by chance Nery lasted 12 rounds and we but a bet on it, odds are pretty high at 15.00, hehehehe. I know for sure that you will be looking at this odds ;D.
And really hard to think what kind of fighter should beat his version of Inoue. He could have the combination of speed and power and boxing IQ and should have a granite chin to stay with the monster. But I don't see the Nery has all of this tools in his arsenal.
That's the good thing about Inoue, he doesn't only have the speed and power but he also possess a tough chin which is comparable to Manny Pacquiao. Even Casimero will be having a very hard time figuring on how to win against the Japanese Monster as the former is the only one left in the Philippines that have a chance to fight him.
Even if they meet in the ring, Casimero will be the heavy underdog and Casimero will have a hard time beating Inoue, people love to see them fight in the ring because Casimero keeps bragging that he has the means to beat Inue, but we all know he is just trolling and Casimero has been trolling him for years.
Inoue keeps ignoring him if Casimero is really serious he should renegotiate to be under MP Promotions who can make the fight possible, but Casimero is full of pride to renegotiate.
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Yes mate, and if by chance Nery lasted 12 rounds and we but a bet on it, odds are pretty high at 15.00, hehehehe. I know for sure that you will be looking at this odds ;D.
And really hard to think what kind of fighter should beat his version of Inoue. He could have the combination of speed and power and boxing IQ and should have a granite chin to stay with the monster. But I don't see the Nery has all of this tools in his arsenal.
That's the good thing about Inoue, he doesn't only have the speed and power but he also possess a tough chin which is comparable to Manny Pacquiao. Even Casimero will be having a very hard time figuring on how to win against the Japanese Monster as the former is the only one left in the Philippines that have a chance to fight him.
Even if they meet in the ring, Casimero will be the heavy underdog and Casimero will have a hard time beating Inoue, people love to see them fight in the ring because Casimero keeps bragging that he has the means to beat Inue, but we all know he is just trolling and Casimero has been trolling him for years.
Inoue keeps ignoring him if Casimero is really serious he should renegotiate to be under MP Promotions who can make the fight possible, but Casimero is full of pride to renegotiate.
I would say that Casimero's chances are very slim now, he don't have any power in the negotiating table and I think he is envy that Nery has the chance to crack at Inoue.
Him and Nery has been talking trash way before, when Casimero is still at his prime and his name on top of 118 lbs. But now it's totally different, they are in the same weight by Casimero's fight at 122 lbs is not that impressive and so Inoue passes him for Nery.
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I would say that Casimero's chances are very slim now, he don't have any power in the negotiating table and I think he is envy that Nery has the chance to crack at Inoue.
Him and Nery has been talking trash way before, when Casimero is still at his prime and his name on top of 118 lbs. But now it's totally different, they are in the same weight by Casimero's fight at 122 lbs is not that impressive and so Inoue passes him for Nery.
I do agree, Casimero's chance of dethroning Naoya Inoue is slim no because of lack in bargaining power plus the fact that his fights in the super bantamweight division were not so impressive. Casimero is 35 years old now, if his team wants to fight Inoue then they must make their move now as he will not be in his peak anymore because of old age.
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I would say that Casimero's chances are very slim now, he don't have any power in the negotiating table and I think he is envy that Nery has the chance to crack at Inoue.
Him and Nery has been talking trash way before, when Casimero is still at his prime and his name on top of 118 lbs. But now it's totally different, they are in the same weight by Casimero's fight at 122 lbs is not that impressive and so Inoue passes him for Nery.
I do agree, Casimero's chance of dethroning Naoya Inoue is slim no because of lack in bargaining power plus the fact that his fights in the super bantamweight division were not so impressive. Casimero is 35 years old now, if his team wants to fight Inoue then they must make their move now as he will not be in his peak anymore because of old age.
Right, he is 35 years old and we can see that his power is somewhat not carried on 122 lbs. The only thing that might give him a chance is that he is under a Japanese manager and so it will be easy to talk to Inoue's camp.
Nevertheless, if he has nothing to offer to Inoue, then he will not get a future chance.
And Casimero is not about to jump to 126 lbs as well, he will be too small for that weight class.
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So, everything is now set for the undisputed fight for the unification of the belts in the Light Heavyweight division as the fighters meet for the first press conference.
One thing i observed, Arthur Beterbiev is not much of a talker hehe, good thing that Bivol saves him on that area ;D.
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BTW as per press conference, the fight will be held on June 1 in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
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So, everything is now set for the undisputed fight for the unification of the belts in the Light Heavyweight division as the fighters meet for the first press conference.
One thing i observed, Arthur Beterbiev is not much of a talker hehe, good thing that Bivol saves him on that area ;D.
BTW as per press conference, the fight will be held on June 1 in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
It's probably the language barrier, that's why Beterview doesn't open his mouth that often. But nevertheless this is a big fight, in this division. I can't remember when was the last time we have a unified champion in the modern era in this division, so this could be the first.
Yeah, we have a date already and they also announce the undercard which included 2 HW fights.
We will see how Zhang will fare against the comebacking Wilder.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HzBqdKmXuY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HzBqdKmXuY)
And so Devin got his revenge against Ryan when he pushed him in their face off at Empire State. Not sure though if this is enough to push the fight to the masses and make some noises as there are reports that tickets are not selling out as it supposed to be.
Let's see if this is enough to make casual fans to buy and talk about this fight in social media.
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Updating this thread,
Ryan Garcia defeated Devin Haney,
Ryan Garcia revived his career by recording one of the most remarkable of all victories to dethrone Devin Haney as the WBC super-lightweight champion.
He will not leave the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York with the title, because his being overweight made him ineligible to win it, but he enhanced his reputation by earning the most unlikely of majority decisions, via scores of 112-112, 114-110 and 115-109.
https://www.boxingscene.com/bigger-make-better-ryan-garcia-overpowers-devin-haney-shocker--182995
I guess nobody saw it coming? He was a big underdog in this fight, going from as high as 8:1 underdog. But he proved that his left hook is still his main weapon as once it touches Haney, Devin always touches the floor.
Congrats to those who went and bet on the underdog Ryan "King Ry" Garcia.
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Updating this thread,
Ryan Garcia defeated Devin Haney,
Ryan Garcia revived his career by recording one of the most remarkable of all victories to dethrone Devin Haney as the WBC super-lightweight champion.
He will not leave the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York with the title, because his being overweight made him ineligible to win it, but he enhanced his reputation by earning the most unlikely of majority decisions, via scores of 112-112, 114-110 and 115-109.
https://www.boxingscene.com/bigger-make-better-ryan-garcia-overpowers-devin-haney-shocker--182995
I guess nobody saw it coming? He was a big underdog in this fight, going from as high as 8:1 underdog. But he proved that his left hook is still his main weapon as once it touches Haney, Devin always touches the floor.
Congrats to those who went and bet on the underdog Ryan "King Ry" Garcia.
didn't bet on fight fight. but i was planing to root for Haney, i would have lost too.
that left hook kept landing repeatedly.
after what ryan been doing on tweeter, a lot of people already thought his kid is demented and this fight wouldn't even be possible anymore because of it. but against all odds ryan beat the shit.
i kept following the interviews and in one video Ryan told Bill Haney to stop the fight because the referee was terrible but they didn't.
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What do you guys think about the Canelo Vs Munguia fight, which is not far away, on 4th May.
Bookies seem to be thinking it's going to be smooth sailing for Canelo. I'm not that big of a boxing fan and haven't been following Munguia's career that closely, but his record and KO rate (of almost 80%) look quite impressive.
Odds are very similar to Canelo Vs Bivol, when the Mexican was a big favorite but got outclassed by the Russian.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/22/jDdkP.png)
Are these fair or misplaced? Worth putting a few $ on Munguia?
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@pawel7777, this Munguia fight is different from that of Bivol because Canelo will be fighting in his own division and many individuals or analysts consider this fight as cherry picking for Canelo as he should fight David Benavidez who is eager on facing him and have the tools to dethrone Canelo.
I choose Canelo to win this fight but will be betting for Munguia because betting for the former is not practical as the odds is very low for him while it would be x5 for Munguia to win ML.
Who knows, Oscar might be 2-0 this coming Cinco-de-Mayo hehe. Ryan Garcia upsets Haney, maybe Munguia will also upsets Canelo.
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@pawel7777, this Munguia fight is different from that of Bivol because Canelo will be fighting in his own division and many individuals or analysts consider this fight as cherry picking for Canelo as he should fight David Benavidez who is eager on facing him and have the tools to dethrone Canelo.
I choose Canelo to win this fight but will be betting for Munguia because betting for the former is not practical as the odds is very low for him while it would be x5 for Munguia to win ML.
Who knows, Oscar might be 2-0 this coming Cinco-de-Mayo hehe. Ryan Garcia upsets Haney, maybe Munguia will also upsets Canelo.
I will be ironic if Oscar will score 2-0, back to back upsets and it could be one of the news this 2024. You can see the expression of Oscar in the post fight interview, he is very elated that Ryan wins and then he talks about Garcia as the new face of boxing because of this big win.
So let's see, maybe Munguia is inspired by Garcia's big win against Haney and will push himself to train harder to upset the current cash cow in Canelo. Why not throw some money in Munguia. Betting some money to Munguia's funds wouldn't cause any harm, hehehe.
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@pawel7777, this Munguia fight is different from that of Bivol because Canelo will be fighting in his own division and many individuals or analysts consider this fight as cherry picking for Canelo as he should fight David Benavidez who is eager on facing him and have the tools to dethrone Canelo.
I choose Canelo to win this fight but will be betting for Munguia because betting for the former is not practical as the odds is very low for him while it would be x5 for Munguia to win ML.
Thanks.
I also think Canelo is more likely to win (at least from my limited knowledge on those two), but the question is, aren't the odds for Munguia attractive enough to throw few $ on it.
But again, I'm not that deep into boxing and might be overestimating Jaime a little bit.
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Anyone heard about the lawsuit of Derrick James against his former pupil in Errol Spence?
Derrick James and Errol Spence have not only parted ways but have taken legal action against one another.
The Ring has confirmed that James filed a lawsuit against his now former client, seeking damages in excess of $5,000,000. A 19-page Breach of Contract, Fraud and Misrepresentation complaint was filed on April 17 with the 191st Judicial District Court of Dallas County, Texas.
https://www.ringtv.com/669039-derrick-james-errol-spence-embroiled-in-two-way-lawsuit-amidst-bitter-split/
It's just sad to hear that they are now in a bitter lawsuit, they used to be one of the best trainer-boxer, similar to the mold of Roach-Pacquaio. But not sure what happened to the two. Yes, Spence last to Crawford but I don't think that Errol should blame his James for that in my opinion.
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Anyone heard about the lawsuit of Derrick James against his former pupil in Errol Spence?
Derrick James and Errol Spence have not only parted ways but have taken legal action against one another.
The Ring has confirmed that James filed a lawsuit against his now former client, seeking damages in excess of $5,000,000. A 19-page Breach of Contract, Fraud and Misrepresentation complaint was filed on April 17 with the 191st Judicial District Court of Dallas County, Texas.
https://www.ringtv.com/669039-derrick-james-errol-spence-embroiled-in-two-way-lawsuit-amidst-bitter-split/
It's just sad to hear that they are now in a bitter lawsuit, they used to be one of the best trainer-boxer, similar to the mold of Roach-Pacquaio. But not sure what happened to the two. Yes, Spence last to Crawford but I don't think that Errol should blame his James for that in my opinion.
Have read this feud in the boxing news but i don't what's the root of all of these issues. On his lost to Crawford, i don't think that James would took the blame as Crawford is way above Spence in terms of boxing talent and even trainers couldn't change the outcome of that fight. I just hope that the two will settle their dispute off the court.
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Breaking news:
Ryan Garcia has found to be taking a banned substance as per report by ESPN. I don't what the complication this may bring to his win against Haney but definitely this is a bad news for the boxing community.
Ryan Garcia failed his doping test the day before and the day of his upset win over Devin Haney, per a Voluntary Anti-Doping Association letter obtained by ESPN.
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Breaking news:
Ryan Garcia has found to be taking a banned substance as per report by ESPN. I don't what the complication this may bring to his win against Haney but definitely this is a bad news for the boxing community.
Ryan Garcia failed his doping test the day before and the day of his upset win over Devin Haney, per a Voluntary Anti-Doping Association letter obtained by ESPN.
Yeah, not sure if this is true though, but I want to hear it from VADA itself on what their take on the sample from Ryan. Or at least make it official and see what substance it is or if it really help Ryan win because I doubt it.
I also read that even Regis accuse Haney of using illegal drugs as well but he wasn't caught because he cycles.
But I don't think that Ryan's performance here will diminishes because of this accusations. He did knock him out 3x and won and dominated the fight.
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what are they trying to achieve? weren't they tested before the fight and there were no issues like this PEDs bnut now that he won, he is being accused of it.
the mafia in boxing has presented itself. we really are living in crazy times when things like this is happening where morals are already flying out the windows. they were trolled big time by Ryan and they couldn't just shake hands and just move on to another fight. or is it just Haney feels like its his last and can't face the crowd because he causes the mafia lost a large sum.
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what are they trying to achieve? weren't they tested before the fight and there were no issues like this PEDs bnut now that he won, he is being accused of it.
the mafia in boxing has presented itself. we really are living in crazy times when things like this is happening where morals are already flying out the windows. they were trolled big time by Ryan and they couldn't just shake hands and just move on to another fight. or is it just Haney feels like its his last and can't face the crowd because he causes the mafia lost a large sum.
Lol, not sure about the Mafia scenario though, but it seems that everyone is transpiring against Ryan Garcia and they want to taint his win against Haney. Maybe they can't take the Ryan beat a prime boxer and dominate him and now they are discrediting his big wins with this accusations.
But let's see he has deny it already and have 10 days to submit to another test whether urine or blood to see if there are drugs in his system that will really colloborate his first failed drug test.
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what are they trying to achieve? weren't they tested before the fight and there were no issues like this PEDs bnut now that he won, he is being accused of it.
the mafia in boxing has presented itself. we really are living in crazy times when things like this is happening where morals are already flying out the windows. they were trolled big time by Ryan and they couldn't just shake hands and just move on to another fight. or is it just Haney feels like its his last and can't face the crowd because he causes the mafia lost a large sum.
Got your point there mate but if the mafia was involved on this fight then they should bet for Ryan Garcia to win because that's where the big money because he was the huge underdog while betting for Haney was not attractive because of low odds.
Yeah, they should have been tested before the fight to avoid complications but Team Haney was so confident that they would beat the crazy Ryan Garcia but it was the opposite that happened.
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Some sad news regarding the Bivol Vs Beterbiev fight. It got postponed due to Beterbiev's injury. He suffered a ruptured meniscus (knee injury), thet will put him off till at least September.
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/13128662/artur-beterbiev-vs-dmitry-bivol-undisputed-world-title-fight-postponed-after-beterbiev-suffers-injury
The remainder of the card, including Wilder Vs Zhang, is still expected to go ahead.
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what are they trying to achieve? weren't they tested before the fight and there were no issues like this PEDs bnut now that he won, he is being accused of it.
the mafia in boxing has presented itself. we really are living in crazy times when things like this is happening where morals are already flying out the windows. they were trolled big time by Ryan and they couldn't just shake hands and just move on to another fight. or is it just Haney feels like its his last and can't face the crowd because he causes the mafia lost a large sum.
Got your point there mate but if the mafia was involved on this fight then they should bet for Ryan Garcia to win because that's where the big money because he was the huge underdog while betting for Haney was not attractive because of low odds.
Yeah, they should have been tested before the fight to avoid complications but Team Haney was so confident that they would beat the crazy Ryan Garcia but it was the opposite that happened.
there is politics involve and Ryan was exposing some shits happening around like Diddy sex extortion. i didn't follow more of it but Ryan made lots of enemies in hollywood. and afaik he also have a beef with Oscar, he was threatened the fight was supposedly cancelled because of his trolling and his mental breakdowns on twitter. its why there were people claiming he shouldn't be allowed to fight but i'm guessing Haney wants to embarrass the kid. Unfortunately, it backfires its why this time Ryan's victory might just be discredit if they are successful with this.
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there is politics involve and Ryan was exposing some shits happening around like Diddy sex extortion. i didn't follow more of it but Ryan made lots of enemies in hollywood. and afaik he also have a beef with Oscar, he was threatened the fight was supposedly cancelled because of his trolling and his mental breakdowns on twitter. its why there were people claiming he shouldn't be allowed to fight but i'm guessing Haney wants to embarrass the kid. Unfortunately, it backfires its why this time Ryan's victory might just be discredit if they are successful with this.
Yes, I agree because Ryan did not follow the script that he should lose and Haney should dominate and humiliate him all so-called boxing experts including Bradley even stated that he would resign from their commentary job if Ryan won the match.
Every bet is on Haney to win and when Haney lose and is the one humiliated Ryan becomes the hated one when they have the opportunity to ruin him by this news they all joined the bandwagon
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Naoya Inoue vs Luis Nery:
We have a fight as both fighters made the scales in today's weigh-in. Inoue weighs 121.75 pounds while Nery weighs 121 lbs, the former is a little bit heavier but within the limit.
This fight is going to happen tomorrow in the next few hours. See below for the full video of the weigh-in.
By the way, this fight can be watch for free via Top Rank's youtube channel and FB account, for Philippines only.
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Below is the link for the live stream of this fight. It was being said that they would stream for free via youtube in the Philippines. So far it is working on my end.
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when Inoue fell, i think everyone who put their money on him must have been standing up and about to say goodbye to their money.
but then he won by KO again. it isn't surprising but Inoue knocked down was more surprising, it kept watching over and over and it sure can be a big hole in his defense. it may just be his fall next if he fights someone on their heavier division.
this is the first time i saw Inoue showboating by the way. i guess that knock down crawled under his skin.
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when Inoue fell, i think everyone who put their money on him must have been standing up and about to say goodbye to their money.
but then he won by KO again. it isn't surprising but Inoue knocked down was more surprising, it kept watching over and over and it sure can be a big hole in his defense. it may just be his fall next if he fights someone on their heavier division.
this is the first time i saw Inoue showboating by the way. i guess that knock down crawled under his skin.
It was a flash knockdown as he didn't saw that hook coming but i think he was not that hurt as he didn't even clinched to Nery and i admired Inoue's presence of mind and composure and the adjustment he made was awesome that Nery couldn't hit him anymore with his counter left hook.
I think he was showboating so that if Nery would take the bait he will be open for the counter straight of Inoue and yeah he seldom do that.
There are talks that Inoue's next fight will be in September against Sam Goodman so this means that Casimero is already out of the picture of getting/winning the Inoue sweepstakes.
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when Inoue fell, i think everyone who put their money on him must have been standing up and about to say goodbye to their money.
but then he won by KO again. it isn't surprising but Inoue knocked down was more surprising, it kept watching over and over and it sure can be a big hole in his defense. it may just be his fall next if he fights someone on their heavier division.
this is the first time i saw Inoue showboating by the way. i guess that knock down crawled under his skin.
It was a flash knockdown as he didn't saw that hook coming but i think he was not that hurt as he didn't even clinched to Nery and i admired Inoue's presence of mind and composure and the adjustment he made was awesome that Nery couldn't hit him anymore with his counter left hook.
I think he was showboating so that if Nery would take the bait he will be open for the counter straight of Inoue and yeah he seldom do that.
There are talks that Inoue's next fight will be in September against Sam Goodman so this means that Casimero is already out of the picture of getting/winning the Inoue sweepstakes.
giving a chance to casimero might be good thing for inoue but none seem to back this fight to happen. if inoue climbs the weight again, then he will not have any chance.
its crazy to see inoue will still be defending his belt after Nery, it would make sense to go all the way up already. but i'm guessing he could not request the fight to be in Japan if he climbs up to fight a champ from the upper weight class?
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when Inoue fell, i think everyone who put their money on him must have been standing up and about to say goodbye to their money.
but then he won by KO again. it isn't surprising but Inoue knocked down was more surprising, it kept watching over and over and it sure can be a big hole in his defense. it may just be his fall next if he fights someone on their heavier division.
this is the first time i saw Inoue showboating by the way. i guess that knock down crawled under his skin.
It was a flash knockdown as he didn't saw that hook coming but i think he was not that hurt as he didn't even clinched to Nery and i admired Inoue's presence of mind and composure and the adjustment he made was awesome that Nery couldn't hit him anymore with his counter left hook.
I think he was showboating so that if Nery would take the bait he will be open for the counter straight of Inoue and yeah he seldom do that.
There are talks that Inoue's next fight will be in September against Sam Goodman so this means that Casimero is already out of the picture of getting/winning the Inoue sweepstakes.
Yes, and Inoue looks hurt though, that's why he didn't stand up and just barely beat the 8 count. He could have been thinking that it's the wrong strategy lol, but he shows composure, get up from the canvass and then show what a Monster he is.
Casimero is out because he is not that impressive and not even in the top 5 as far as any governing bodies goes at 122 lbs if I'm not mistaken.
Sam Goodman but be the next one as he is a number 1 rated from 2 governing bodies so he could really be the next test for Inoue.
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They found a replacement for Artur Beterbiev.
Bivol will face Malik Zinad instead. Zinad is 30 year old with a 20-0 record (16 KOs), currently ranked 9th.
https://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/40085057/dmitry-bivol-defend-title-vs-malik-zinad-riyadh
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They found a replacement for Artur Beterbiev.
Bivol will face Malik Zinad instead. Zinad is 30 year old with a 20-0 record (16 KOs), currently ranked 9th.
https://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/40085057/dmitry-bivol-defend-title-vs-malik-zinad-riyadh
Quite unfortunate that Beterbiev suffered a meniscus injury and will be out for the fight. He will be out until September hence, a replacement is needed. Well, the replacement is also undefeated apparently so it's still a battle of undefeated boxers. I guess let's just see what will happen on this one, and let's expect that whoever win on this match will be the one that Beterbiev will be facing when he comes back in the ring. :)
when Inoue fell,i think everyone who put their money on him must have been standing up and about to say goodbye to their money.
but then he won by KO again. it isn't surprising but Inoue knocked down was more surprising, it kept watching over and over and it sure can be a big hole in his defense. it may just be his fall next if he fights someone on their heavier division.
this is the first time i saw Inoue showboating by the way. i guess that knock down crawled under his skin.
Not for me :D.
I also put some money on him even though the odds on Stake are only 1.20. I didn't expect him to be knocked down on the first round though and just for information, it's his first professional career knockdown but nevertheless, he got his revenge in the 2nd round, and continued to knock Nery down 2 more times until the 6th round.
I think even though it ended up as a decision, it's pretty obvious that Inoue will win on that one just because of how good he is per round. As for his showboating, it's not his first time doing it. He also did it with Stephen Fulton when they faced last time. I mean if you're fighting on your home country with more than 55,000 people watching, at least you need to entertain them a little bit and that's what he did. :D
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Lomachenko vs Kambosos
We almost forget that there will be a good fight this weekend, Loma vs Kambosos. This fight was overshadowed by the recent fight of Canelo and Munguia then just the other night there was a fight between Inoue and Nery.
I do think that this fight will go to the distance with Loma winning as Kambosos is a tough nut to crack.
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I good chance for Lomachenko to get on the track, because after that loss to Devin Haney, which looked like a robbery, he might be morally not ready fight. I am not quite sure that Kambosos is on the same level with Lomachenko to go full distance with him. If we look on their records, then Kambosos last fights were less convincing that he is the best, than Lomachenko. A questionable loss to Haney and two wins vs victory by majority decision and 2 losses. I am not surprised we have odds like that.
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I good chance for Lomachenko to get on the track, because after that loss to Devin Haney, which looked like a robbery, he might be morally not ready fight. I am not quite sure that Kambosos is on the same level with Lomachenko to go full distance with him. If we look on their records, then Kambosos last fights were less convincing that he is the best, than Lomachenko. A questionable loss to Haney and two wins vs victory by majority decision and 2 losses. I am not surprised we have odds like that.
It could be that promotions is cooking something that is why it resulted in a controversial fight? Because in the past years I've been watching boxing matches I've seen more questionable fights that happened against our country's team that is why a boxer should always have a knock out so anomaly could be prevented especially if the management's intention is to have a rematch so they can profit more from promotions. I could be wrong but yeah that is what I -observed.
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I good chance for Lomachenko to get on the track, because after that loss to Devin Haney, which looked like a robbery, he might be morally not ready fight. I am not quite sure that Kambosos is on the same level with Lomachenko to go full distance with him. If we look on their records, then Kambosos last fights were less convincing that he is the best, than Lomachenko. A questionable loss to Haney and two wins vs victory by majority decision and 2 losses. I am not surprised we have odds like that.
We will find out, but having a lot of amateur fights and almost a perfect amateur career as he avenge his lost, he should be mentally more ready that ever. I think that fight against Haney is 50/50, as there are fight fans who score the fight for Haney specially that Loma is taken over the last half of the fight.
Nevertheless as I have said, he has move forward already and now another chance to have a belt against Kambosos in Australia. And he is the favorite in this fight so everything is falling into pieces. He just need to show the old Loma and win this fight by decision.
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I good chance for Lomachenko to get on the track, because after that loss to Devin Haney, which looked like a robbery, he might be morally not ready fight. I am not quite sure that Kambosos is on the same level with Lomachenko to go full distance with him. If we look on their records, then Kambosos last fights were less convincing that he is the best, than Lomachenko. A questionable loss to Haney and two wins vs victory by majority decision and 2 losses. I am not surprised we have odds like that.
We will find out, but having a lot of amateur fights and almost a perfect amateur career as he avenge his lost, he should be mentally more ready that ever. I think that fight against Haney is 50/50, as there are fight fans who score the fight for Haney specially that Loma is taken over the last half of the fight.
Nevertheless as I have said, he has move forward already and now another chance to have a belt against Kambosos in Australia. And he is the favorite in this fight so everything is falling into pieces. He just need to show the old Loma and win this fight by decision.
I also think that Loma's time in boxing is not yet over, but so is Kambosos, so with this fight, we should expect to give each one everything they have; in terms of skill and experience, Loma has the advantage, but Kambosos has the Aussies behind him, and he will use that to motivate him.
This is the kind of fight worth watching because they are in dire need of a win to stay in the boxing
whoever wins here will have a career resurgence, and the winner will contemplate whether he wants to continue or retire.
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I good chance for Lomachenko to get on the track, because after that loss to Devin Haney, which looked like a robbery, he might be morally not ready fight. I am not quite sure that Kambosos is on the same level with Lomachenko to go full distance with him. If we look on their records, then Kambosos last fights were less convincing that he is the best, than Lomachenko. A questionable loss to Haney and two wins vs victory by majority decision and 2 losses. I am not surprised we have odds like that.
We will find out, but having a lot of amateur fights and almost a perfect amateur career as he avenge his lost, he should be mentally more ready that ever. I think that fight against Haney is 50/50, as there are fight fans who score the fight for Haney specially that Loma is taken over the last half of the fight.
Nevertheless as I have said, he has move forward already and now another chance to have a belt against Kambosos in Australia. And he is the favorite in this fight so everything is falling into pieces. He just need to show the old Loma and win this fight by decision.
I also think that Loma's time in boxing is not yet over, but so is Kambosos, so with this fight, we should expect to give each one everything they have; in terms of skill and experience, Loma has the advantage, but Kambosos has the Aussies behind him, and he will use that to motivate him.
This is the kind of fight worth watching because they are in dire need of a win to stay in the boxing
whoever wins here will have a career resurgence, and the winner will contemplate whether he wants to continue or retire.
Kambosos is young as 30. that's still a prime age for someone who has been in boxing for years while Loma is in his decline. while i would favor Loma to have this IBF belt, he may retire if he loses this fight. he got nowhere else to go.
but if he won, he should directly challenge Shakur right there after. no time to waste since this must be a fight that is the most exciting. they almost have same style.
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I good chance for Lomachenko to get on the track, because after that loss to Devin Haney, which looked like a robbery, he might be morally not ready fight. I am not quite sure that Kambosos is on the same level with Lomachenko to go full distance with him. If we look on their records, then Kambosos last fights were less convincing that he is the best, than Lomachenko. A questionable loss to Haney and two wins vs victory by majority decision and 2 losses. I am not surprised we have odds like that.
We will find out, but having a lot of amateur fights and almost a perfect amateur career as he avenge his lost, he should be mentally more ready that ever. I think that fight against Haney is 50/50, as there are fight fans who score the fight for Haney specially that Loma is taken over the last half of the fight.
Nevertheless as I have said, he has move forward already and now another chance to have a belt against Kambosos in Australia. And he is the favorite in this fight so everything is falling into pieces. He just need to show the old Loma and win this fight by decision.
I also think that Loma's time in boxing is not yet over, but so is Kambosos, so with this fight, we should expect to give each one everything they have; in terms of skill and experience, Loma has the advantage, but Kambosos has the Aussies behind him, and he will use that to motivate him.
This is the kind of fight worth watching because they are in dire need of a win to stay in the boxing
whoever wins here will have a career resurgence, and the winner will contemplate whether he wants to continue or retire.
Kambosos is young as 30. that's still a prime age for someone who has been in boxing for years while Loma is in his decline. while i would favor Loma to have this IBF belt, he may retire if he loses this fight. he got nowhere else to go.
but if he won, he should directly challenge Shakur right there after. no time to waste since this must be a fight that is the most exciting. they almost have same style.
Yep, he is still in his prime, but I think he has taken too damage already, from the Teo Lopez fight which he won and twice against Haney and it could scar him for good.
But we will see, yeah, it should be Shakur for them after this fight. Not sure though if Shakur is willing, he used to be a Top Rank fighter but he refuses to re-sign a contract with Bob Arum. And maybe Bob won't give Shakur a chance to win a belt at this weight class, sort of revenge story for Top Rank.
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Kambosos is young as 30. that's still a prime age for someone who has been in boxing for years while Loma is in his decline. while i would favor Loma to have this IBF belt, he may retire if he loses this fight. he got nowhere else to go.
but if he won, he should directly challenge Shakur right there after. no time to waste since this must be a fight that is the most exciting. they almost have same style.
Totally agree that Loma is now on a decline, performance-wise because of age as he is now 36 years of age, not that young if you are into this sport of sweet science but like what i said in my previous post that Loma's punch still got the sting and his technicality will pose problems for the younger Kambosos.
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Kambosos is young as 30. that's still a prime age for someone who has been in boxing for years while Loma is in his decline. while i would favor Loma to have this IBF belt, he may retire if he loses this fight. he got nowhere else to go.
but if he won, he should directly challenge Shakur right there after. no time to waste since this must be a fight that is the most exciting. they almost have same style.
Totally agree that Loma is now on a decline, performance-wise because of age as he is now 36 years of age, not that young if you are into this sport of sweet science but like what i said in my previous post that Loma's punch still got the sting and his technicality will pose problems for the younger Kambosos.
Have you guys seen the face-off it's one of the most intense face-offs I've seen, no one is blinking on their staredown as if both fighters are fighting on who will blink first and no one blinks, there's no thrash talk between the two, but you know the two is gearing for war because so much is at stake in this fight, their career is at stake on this fight, one will move on and the other will fall into oblivion.
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Kambosos is young as 30. that's still a prime age for someone who has been in boxing for years while Loma is in his decline. while i would favor Loma to have this IBF belt, he may retire if he loses this fight. he got nowhere else to go.
but if he won, he should directly challenge Shakur right there after. no time to waste since this must be a fight that is the most exciting. they almost have same style.
Totally agree that Loma is now on a decline, performance-wise because of age as he is now 36 years of age, not that young if you are into this sport of sweet science but like what i said in my previous post that Loma's punch still got the sting and his technicality will pose problems for the younger Kambosos.
Have you guys seen the face-off it's one of the most intense face-offs I've seen, no one is blinking on their staredown as if both fighters are fighting on who will blink first and no one blinks, there's no thrash talk between the two, but you know the two is gearing for war because so much is at stake in this fight, their career is at stake on this fight, one will move on and the other will fall into oblivion.
The face-off was record-breaking and it went viral on social media especially on Twitter hehe.
For those who want to watch the fight live for free, see below youtube link.
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Kambosos got schooled, he would have lost even if he wasn't TKO'd from the body shots. I don' t know what happened to him during the fight but maybe Lomachenko's constant pressure got to him.
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Kambosos got schooled, he would have lost even if he wasn't TKO'd from the body shots. I don' t know what happened to him during the fight but maybe Lomachenko's constant pressure got to him.
Loma is just a better fighter than Kambosos that's why he won.
That body shot is just too much for him and add also the fact that his eye is bloody as well.
Looking at the current titles at Lightweight, there's still WBO that's still vacant. I wonder who will get that title as well. I mean Shakur got one which is the WBC, Tank Davis got the WBA, and now Lomachenko got the IBF. Any good fighters at Lightweight still?
Anyway, I've been watching boxing events for quite some time already, but it's my first time to see an announcer making a wrong announcement and announcing a wrong fighter to win the fight. Anybody saw that blooper? When I watched that, I said to myself that they need to fire that announcer after this event. He's Steve Harvey 2.0 . :D
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Anyway, I've been watching boxing events for quite some time already, but it's my first time to see an announcer making a wrong announcement and announcing a wrong fighter to win the fight. Anybody saw that blooper? When I watched that, I said to myself that they need to fire that announcer after this event. He's Steve Harvey 2.0 . :D
It was also the first time I thought it only happens in pageants or in WWE or wrestling it should not happen in a title match because the other fighter will think that they are stealing his winning and the other fighter will think there's manipulation to make it appear she win, it steals the excitement from the real winner.
Anyway, the fight is too close. The fight could go either way, but one of the judges is very biased on how he scored the fight.
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Kambosos got schooled, he would have lost even if he wasn't TKO'd from the body shots. I don' t know what happened to him during the fight but maybe Lomachenko's constant pressure got to him.
It would be a wide margin decision win for Loma if Kambosos wasn't KOed, that was my expectation. Kambosos was frustrated that he can't hit Loma with his power punch while Loma hit him at will whenever and wherever Loma wants. That was Loma's style, goes to the head first then dig in the body on the championship rounds. That liver shot was not a lucky punch as that was also the punch that KOed Jorge Linares.
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Kambosos got schooled, he would have lost even if he wasn't TKO'd from the body shots. I don' t know what happened to him during the fight but maybe Lomachenko's constant pressure got to him.
It would be a wide margin decision win for Loma if Kambosos wasn't KOed, that was my expectation. Kambosos was frustrated that he can't hit Loma with his power punch while Loma hit him at will whenever and wherever Loma wants. That was Loma's style, goes to the head first then dig in the body on the championship rounds. That liver shot was not a lucky punch as that was also the punch that KOed Jorge Linares.
the footwork is making a huge difference in their fight. Loma is just better at it. and i thought he will actually lose this fight so i bet for Georgy.
what surfaces this time however is that its Tank Davis is Loma's next fight. this time this will divide fans whether which is which. while i like Tank, Loma shows he still got it and can deliver his will.
Tank vs Loma is still in progress if could change to Shakur. i think Tank is too much for Loma. Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.
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Tank vs Loma is still in progress if could change to Shakur. i think Tank is too much for Loma. Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.
Tank vs Loma is floating now and i think this is a fight that i think Loma should take because the latter has the advantage on the size though heavy handed but i do think he could avoid the power bombs of Tank Davis.
It now depends on Bob Arum on whom will he choose as the next opponent of Loma.
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Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.
It's going to be a snoozefest for some/many fans. I'm already reading comments about how boring this is going to be and I think that's also a factor whether the promoters want to push this fight or not. It will probably not generate the amount of PPV buys and Gate that they wanted.
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Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.
It's going to be a snoozefest for some/many fans. I'm already reading comments about how boring this is going to be and I think that's also a factor whether the promoters want to push this fight or not. It will probably not generate the amount of PPV buys and Gate that they wanted.
Style makes the fight, and that's likely to happen, but between the two, Loma has offense in his arsenal, so I expect him to be the one that goes on the offensive, and if the stake is too high between the two, they will abandon that kind of style and push for a more aggressive style that will earn points or knockouts, you can't be passive if there are titles, money and reputation on the line.
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Tank vs Loma is still in progress if could change to Shakur. i think Tank is too much for Loma. Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.
Tank vs Loma is floating now and i think this is a fight that i think Loma should take because the latter has the advantage on the size though heavy handed but i do think he could avoid the power bombs of Tank Davis.
Tank vs Loma, or Shakur vs Loma will be good in my opinion. Going to be explosive for a Tank vs Loma fight. Tank using his power and boxing IQ against Loma, technique. Loma though should start quick moving forward, he can't be a slow starter just like what his strategy against Haney then. That's why you can see in the Kambosos fight that he started fast and soften Kambosos in the later round.
It now depends on Bob Arum on whom will he choose as the next opponent of Loma.
Yes, whichever Bob Arum can easily talk to and sit down and laid up what they will get if they fight Loma. Shakur though should be a sho-in if he chooses to extend his contract with Top Rank, but it seems the doesn't want to and become a free agent after his last fight in July.
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Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.
It's going to be a snoozefest for some/many fans. I'm already reading comments about how boring this is going to be and I think that's also a factor whether the promoters want to push this fight or not. It will probably not generate the amount of PPV buys and Gate that they wanted.
This is the reason why i chooses Tank Davis over Shakur Stevenson because the latter is not a crowd drawer and his style is more on the defensive, snore fest indeed if Loma and Shakur would meet in the ring. At this stage of his career, Loma needs money fights and Tank Davis could give him that.
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Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.
It's going to be a snoozefest for some/many fans. I'm already reading comments about how boring this is going to be and I think that's also a factor whether the promoters want to push this fight or not. It will probably not generate the amount of PPV buys and Gate that they wanted.
This is the reason why i chooses Tank Davis over Shakur Stevenson because the latter is not a crowd drawer and his style is more on the defensive, snore fest indeed if Loma and Shakur would meet in the ring. At this stage of his career, Loma needs money fights and Tank Davis could give him that.
I do agree, I would love to see Davis vs Loma as well in the ring. But still depends on how Bob Arum will approach the camp of Tank for this great fight. And now that there are controversies as whether organizations are capping a 12 lbs in every fight moving forward are rehydration clause.
But anyways, let's see, a power puncher vs the technical skills of Loma that will be a great match-up to see and we will wait who will prevail in this kind of fights. And it's going to be unpredictable.
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Shakur vs Loma will give the fans about 12 rounds of because they are both good at avoiding getting hit. Shakurt however is not a finisher.
It's going to be a snoozefest for some/many fans. I'm already reading comments about how boring this is going to be and I think that's also a factor whether the promoters want to push this fight or not. It will probably not generate the amount of PPV buys and Gate that they wanted.
This is the reason why i chooses Tank Davis over Shakur Stevenson because the latter is not a crowd drawer and his style is more on the defensive, snore fest indeed if Loma and Shakur would meet in the ring. At this stage of his career, Loma needs money fights and Tank Davis could give him that.
I do agree, I would love to see Davis vs Loma as well in the ring. But still depends on how Bob Arum will approach the camp of Tank for this great fight. And now that there are controversies as whether organizations are capping a 12 lbs in every fight moving forward are rehydration clause.
But anyways, let's see, a power puncher vs the technical skills of Loma that will be a great match-up to see and we will wait who will prevail in this kind of fights. And it's going to be unpredictable.
The camp of Tank Davis will do its best to outsmart their opponent, that 12-pound rehydration clause is for me a coward act. They are fighting for a championship belt then why stipulate that in the contract, they should fight in the lower division if they don't want their opponent to be bigger than them.
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Taylor vs Catterall:
This fight will be on the weekend guys and as we can see on the betting odds, it shifted from Taylor being the favorite, he is now the underdog of this fight. As I have stated on the other forum, I'm more inclined to back Catterall to win this fight via decision.
@Baofeng, what is your take on this fight mate?
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/05/22/1bfKw.jpeg)
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^^ Here is the final press conference and face-off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlufTT97rjY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlufTT97rjY)
Since Josh Taylor is now the underdog, I will be looking for him to push himself and win this fight. He is on a must win here, otherwise, his name will be lost into oblivion as the fastest undisputed 140 lbs, who lost his belt and then wasn't the same before.
Odds for him are very attractive and hopefully he will have that one great fight, just like those champion in the past wherein before they retire, they have that one good fight that will cemented their legacy.
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^^ Here is the final press conference and face-off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlufTT97rjY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlufTT97rjY)
Since Josh Taylor is now the underdog, I will be looking for him to push himself and win this fight. He is on a must win here, otherwise, his name will be lost into oblivion as the fastest undisputed 140 lbs, who lost his belt and then wasn't the same before.
Odds for him are very attractive and hopefully he will have that one great fight, just like those champion in the past wherein before they retire, they have that one good fight that will cemented their legacy.
I'm backing Catterall for this fight I was going for Taylor weeks before the fight but I have seen Catterall's motivation, he was robbed of the titles because of the wrong decision and now when they are about to rematch there is no title on the line because Taylor loses it against Teofimo Lopez so its more of a personal because of what the opportunities he losses because of the decision.
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^^ Here is the final press conference and face-off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlufTT97rjY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlufTT97rjY)
Since Josh Taylor is now the underdog, I will be looking for him to push himself and win this fight. He is on a must win here, otherwise, his name will be lost into oblivion as the fastest undisputed 140 lbs, who lost his belt and then wasn't the same before.
Odds for him are very attractive and hopefully he will have that one great fight, just like those champion in the past wherein before they retire, they have that one good fight that will cemented their legacy.
I'm backing Catterall for this fight I was going for Taylor weeks before the fight but I have seen Catterall's motivation, he was robbed of the titles because of the wrong decision and now when they are about to rematch there is no title on the line because Taylor loses it against Teofimo Lopez so its more of a personal because of what the opportunities he losses because of the decision.
Congrats mate if you put a decent money on Jack Catterall as he won the fight in the judges scorecard, Kieran McCann and Mark Bates both scored 117-111 and Lee Every saw it 116-113 – all for Catterall.
I haven't seen the highlights yet, it just came to my feed right now. But I'm happy to see the Jack finally won and it just shows that the first win is really no fluke and that he should be declared the winner.
As for Josh, I think it's the end of the road for the Tartan Warrior, too much wear and tear already, but at least he had accomplished to be a unified champion at 140 lbs.
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As for Josh, I think it's the end of the road for the Tartan Warrior, too much wear and tear already, but at least he had accomplished to be a unified champion at 140 lbs.
I do agree, he should hang up his gloves for good now as his unfinished business with Catterall has been settled already and it was clear that he was on the losing side and there is no excitement anymore for the fans of boxing to have a trilogy.
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Here are the odds for the full card of the Bivol Vs Zinad next week:
Dmitry Bivol x1.06 vs. Malik Zinad x12.50
Daniel Dubois x2.70 vs. Filip Hrgovic x1.44
Zhilei Zhang x1.61 vs. Deontay Wilder x2.28
Nick Ball x2.38 vs. Ray Ford x1.57
Hamzah Sheeraz x1.44 vs. Austin Williams x2.75
Willy Hutchinson x2.07 vs. Craig Richards x1.73
Which of the above would you consider a good value bet?
I think it's possible that Wilder will redeem himself and could find a way to finish Zhang. Are odds of x2.28 good enough to make such bet? I'm not convinced.
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As for Josh, I think it's the end of the road for the Tartan Warrior, too much wear and tear already, but at least he had accomplished to be a unified champion at 140 lbs.
I do agree, he should hang up his gloves for good now as his unfinished business with Catterall has been settled already and it was clear that he was on the losing side and there is no excitement anymore for the fans of boxing to have a trilogy.
It's just the wear and tear on his body. Even in the weigh in or face-off, you can visibly see that somewhat Josh Taylor looks old. And he might have a hard time getting into the 140 lbs limit here, although he did make it in this fight, in the future as he gets old, his body needs those added weight.
So I do agree for those fans who are calling for him to quit. There's no sense of a 3rd fight when by now we clearly see the Jack Catterall should have won the first fight if not for the judges who gives favor for Josh Taylor. And then Taylor just avoiding him for years maybe because he knows that he can't beat Catterall, IMHO.
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Here are the odds for the full card of the Bivol Vs Zinad next week:
Dmitry Bivol x1.06 vs. Malik Zinad x12.50
Daniel Dubois x2.70 vs. Filip Hrgovic x1.44
Zhilei Zhang x1.61 vs. Deontay Wilder x2.28
Nick Ball x2.38 vs. Ray Ford x1.57
Hamzah Sheeraz x1.44 vs. Austin Williams x2.75
Willy Hutchinson x2.07 vs. Craig Richards x1.73
Which of the above would you consider a good value bet?
I think it's possible that Wilder will redeem himself and could find a way to finish Zhang. Are odds of x2.28 good enough to make such bet? I'm not convinced.
For me that 2.28 odds is very attractive because Wilder is very capable of beating Zhang as the latter is not as good as Tyson Fury. I even think that Wilder is the favorite in this fight so thanks for this info mate.
Good to know that Bivol will be fighting this weekend, he should win this with ease as to not complicate his future fight with Beterbiev.
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Here are the odds for the full card of the Bivol Vs Zinad next week:
Dmitry Bivol x1.06 vs. Malik Zinad x12.50
Daniel Dubois x2.70 vs. Filip Hrgovic x1.44
Zhilei Zhang x1.61 vs. Deontay Wilder x2.28
Nick Ball x2.38 vs. Ray Ford x1.57
Hamzah Sheeraz x1.44 vs. Austin Williams x2.75
Willy Hutchinson x2.07 vs. Craig Richards x1.73
Which of the above would you consider a good value bet?
I think it's possible that Wilder will redeem himself and could find a way to finish Zhang. Are odds of x2.28 good enough to make such bet? I'm not convinced.
For me that 2.28 odds is very attractive because Wilder is very capable of beating Zhang as the latter is not as good as Tyson Fury. I even think that Wilder is the favorite in this fight so thanks for this info mate.
Wilder is the underdog here, I think the odds maker might have considered his performance in his last outing against Parker. While on the other hand, Zhang was good against Parker in the early rounds, until he got tired and lost in the hands of the judges. But we will see if the Wilder can still pull the trigger and if he still possesses one of the scariest power that we have seen in this division. So it's good that he is the underdog and see a bet for him is very appealing and we are willing to take the risk.
Good to know that Bivol will be fighting this weekend, he should win this with ease as to not complicate his future fight with Beterbiev.
Tune-up fight for him, but he better win this in a spectacular manner so that the hype vs Beterbiev is still there.
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According to this report,
According to multiple boxing sources who spoke to BoxingScene Tuesday, Alvarez (61-2-2, 39 KOs) intends to relinquish his IBF belt rather than participate in an ordered June 6 purse bid at IBF offices in New Jersey for a fight against that sanctioning body’s mandatory contender, little-known William Scull of Cuba (22-0, 9 KOs).
https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-alvarez-set-relinquish-ibf-title-no-longer-undisputed-champion--183868
And so just like any other undisputed champion in the past, very hard to have all the belts and then defend it against each and every 4 organizations mandatory challengers.
I think it's good though, at least it will open up the belt and let others fight for it.
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Regarding the Usyk Vs IBF drama, I wonder how things are perceived from the boxing organisations point of view (be it the IBF or other). Is it better for them to have their belt being just a part of big bundle or would that rather have their own, unique champion.
The truth is, if not for the risk of Usyk getting stripped, the IBF or Hrgovic would not get half the media coverage that they did receive in recent time. So it wouldn't surprise me if the IBF wanted to take the belt away from Usyk, just to appear more prestigious and uncompromising.
From a purely sport perspective, holding up the division and making the mandatory contender wait for over, with no concrete date in sight does not sounds very fair.
Anyhow, with 1 day to go, it's safe to say that there will be no interim belt on the line in the Hrgovic Vs. Dubois bout, so let's see how will things unfold after the fight.
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Regarding the Vergil Ortiz fight, he is supposedly to fight Tim Tszyu, but Tim was not cleared medically to fight Vergil. And so the camp of Ortiz is looking for a new opponent and one name that pops up is Serhii Bohachuk..
Bohachuk is the WBC interim super welterweight champion from Ukraine. I think it is a good news if they will get him for Ortiz as he looks solid in his last fight when he beat Brian Mendoza. The man who scored a knockout against the current WBC champion Sebastian Fundora. And with the likes of Spence and Crawford moving up in this weight class, this division seems to be getting the attention now.
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Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson fight will be postponed to a yet unknown date, due to Mike's health problems (ulcer flare-up) that prevent him from training for a few weeks.
More info here: https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/13146341/jake-paul-vs-mike-tyson-boxing-fight-postponed-with-new-date-expected-to-be-announced-in-early-june
According to the article Tyson has said: "My body is in better overall shape than it has been since the 1990s, and I will be back to my full training schedule soon", which, to me, indicates that he might be a bit deluded about himself and refuses to acknowledge that he's old and will never be anywhere near to where he was in his prime.
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Bivol vs Zinad, - Bivol already won, round 6 stoppage. Kudos for Zinad for showing in this fight, but it was not enough, Bivol really pour everything in round 6 and it was just a mismatch. Although Zinad hit Bivol, it didn't have any effect on the Russian and he was really focus on this fight and still 100% of getting a good victory for the crowd.
Hopefully, Beterbiev's injury will be healed before the end of the year and so maybe we can see them fight in the last quarter of the year. Dubois against Hrgovic will be next so this is another great fight as it's going to be a make or break for either one of them in the HW division.
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Bivol vs Zinad, - Bivol already won, round 6 stoppage. Kudos for Zinad for showing in this fight, but it was not enough, Bivol really pour everything in round 6 and it was just a mismatch. Although Zinad hit Bivol, it didn't have any effect on the Russian and he was really focus on this fight and still 100% of getting a good victory for the crowd.
Hopefully, Beterbiev's injury will be healed before the end of the year and so maybe we can see them fight in the last quarter of the year. Dubois against Hrgovic will be next so this is another great fight as it's going to be a make or break for either one of them in the HW division.
It's just unfortunate though that it was not Beterbiev we saw as the opponent of Bivol but fortunate enough to see Bivol getting the work done easily as a loss on this fight would mean the cancellation or derail his mega-fight with Beterbiev.
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I think Zinad has gained a lot after that fight despite his first loss. I don't think many of us have ever heard about him before the fight was announced, so he gained a lot in terms of name recognition. I would imagine he got a payday of his lifetime, maybe enough to set him up for life, so he can't complain in this matter. In terms of performance, he didn't avoid exchanges and looked like he believed in his skills and was looking for a win rather than just to survive, that's what boxing fans like the most. And, he can always use the short notice as an excuse or blame the referee for premature stoppage as he didn't fall down etc.
But yeah, Bivol was just on another level and so it ended as expected. This was his first KO/TKO win since 2018.
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I think Zinad has gained a lot after that fight despite his first loss. I don't think many of us have ever heard about him before the fight was announced, so he gained a lot in terms of name recognition. I would imagine he got a payday of his lifetime, maybe enough to set him up for life, so he can't complain in this matter. In terms of performance, he didn't avoid exchanges and looked like he believed in his skills and was looking for a win rather than just to survive, that's what boxing fans like the most. And, he can always use the short notice as an excuse or blame the referee for premature stoppage as he didn't fall down etc.
But yeah, Bivol was just on another level and so it ended as expected. This was his first KO/TKO win since 2018.
Yeah, first time for me to hear Zinad's name and you are right, his stocks soar up north after that Bivol fight as he is now more popular than before. His performance was not that ugly though he lost to the better man but that was expected as Bivol needs a sparring partner after that injury to Arthur.
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And regarding Ryan Garcia's PED's used,
Supplement company fires back at Ryan Garcia's claim product contained banned substance. (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/supplement-company-claps-back-ryan-garcias-claim-product-contained-banned-substance)
The CEO said that they don't used Ostarine in their supplement. So it looks like the legal team of Ryan is trying to make them look like they are not telling the truth because they claim that they got that Ostarine from their supplements.
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And regarding Ryan Garcia's PED's used,
Supplement company fires back at Ryan Garcia's claim product contained banned substance. (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/supplement-company-claps-back-ryan-garcias-claim-product-contained-banned-substance)
The CEO said that they don't used Ostarine in their supplement. So it looks like the legal team of Ryan is trying to make them look like they are not telling the truth because they claim that they got that Ostarine from their supplements.
So they've got to test the supplements now to back Ryan Garcia's claim that indeed their product contains the banned substance but i think it is written on the label what's the ingredients on that particular product.
Now that it is proven that Garcia was indeed using that PED, do the boxing commission declare that bout to a "no contest"?
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And regarding Ryan Garcia's PED's used,
Supplement company fires back at Ryan Garcia's claim product contained banned substance. (https://www.foxnews.com/sports/supplement-company-claps-back-ryan-garcias-claim-product-contained-banned-substance)
The CEO said that they don't used Ostarine in their supplement. So it looks like the legal team of Ryan is trying to make them look like they are not telling the truth because they claim that they got that Ostarine from their supplements.
So they've got to test the supplements now to back Ryan Garcia's claim that indeed their product contains the banned substance but i think it is written on the label what's the ingredients on that particular product.
Now that it is proven that Garcia was indeed using that PED, do the boxing commission declare that bout to a "no contest"?
WBC says that they will look at it, and need more from Ryan Garcia. But in any case, if WBC uses VADA as a proof then most likely they might declare that fight as "no contest', but let's see.
The supplement company says that they don't used Ostarine so this could be the damaging statement that can really pin down Ryan as really taking PEDs here. Maybe this is the first time he used it, or mayeb cycling it to removed in his system prior to the fight. But this time, there are still traces found so they didn't cleanse his system or really caught by surprised by the VADA testing as usually it is unannounced drop to Ryan's house and he has not time to prepare because it's random visit.
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they can really revert those record? damn! Ryan really hurt their pride.
i'm thinking whether the money won in this fight will also be returned? Ryan did bet for himself which he earned $12M.
and then there are also betting for the upset during that time. although i find it not reasonable i'd still be asking whether its possible bookmakers will just subtract the amount from their accounts now that the result will be "|No Contest"
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The new date for the postponed Bivol Vs Beterbiev fight has been announced. It will happen on 12th October in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/announced-dmitry-bivol-vs-artur-beterbiev-on-october-12th-in-riyadh/278983
Hopefully that's enough time for Beterbiev to fully recover, resume trainings and show up fully prepared.
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The new date for the postponed Bivol Vs Beterbiev fight has been announced. It will happen on 12th October in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/announced-dmitry-bivol-vs-artur-beterbiev-on-october-12th-in-riyadh/278983
Hopefully that's enough time for Beterbiev to fully recover, resume trainings and show up fully prepared.
Yes, it has been announced last week if I'm not mistaken after the Bivol fight against Zinad. For sure many things have been considered, specially Beterbiev recovering already and 100% healthy in this fight because we needed them to be both in their peak condition so that there will be no excuses on how someone lost.
Just a couple of months from now, maybe Bivol could have recovered by this money or at least their is significant improvement already that Turki can declared with finally the October 12 date re-schedule.
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The new date for the postponed Bivol Vs Beterbiev fight has been announced. It will happen on 12th October in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/announced-dmitry-bivol-vs-artur-beterbiev-on-october-12th-in-riyadh/278983
Hopefully that's enough time for Beterbiev to fully recover, resume trainings and show up fully prepared.
Well, if this happens, it will be an easy "Fight of the year" candidate, and it might win it TBH.
The question now is, will it happen now, and if it happens, will Beterbiev will be at full shape at that time.
I mean Bivol just came out victorious against the replacement Malik and for him, that's a good warm-up already compared to Beterbiev who is still recovering from his injury. Like you, I really hope that the amount of time would be enough for him to recover, and to train of course.
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^ fight of the year i think we already seen, Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney. its one controversial fight that everyone got themselves reading all the news the next day.
whats all with these fights being postponed, it looks like they all are conspiring each other to delay the entertainment dose we need ;D
McGregor vs Chandler
Mike vs Jake
Bivol vs Beterbiev
what else is there to postponed?
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^ fight of the year i think we already seen, Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney. its one controversial fight that everyone got themselves reading all the news the next day.
whats all with these fights being postponed, it looks like they all are conspiring each other to delay the entertainment dose we need ;D
McGregor vs Chandler
Mike vs Jake
Bivol vs Beterbiev
what else is there to postponed?
Well, the first fight between Fury and Usyk was postponed and the rematch that was originally planned for October will happen in December.
As for the fight of the year, I think LogitechMouse didn't necessarily mean the entertainment value of the fight but what's at stake (the first four-belt unification in light heavyweight history) and the fact they are both undefeated until now.
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^ fight of the year i think we already seen, Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney. its one controversial fight that everyone got themselves reading all the news the next day.
whats all with these fights being postponed, it looks like they all are conspiring each other to delay the entertainment dose we need ;D
McGregor vs Chandler
Mike vs Jake
Bivol vs Beterbiev
what else is there to postponed?
Well, the first fight between Fury and Usyk was postponed and the rematch that was originally planned for October will happen in December.
As for the fight of the year, I think LogitechMouse didn't necessarily mean the entertainment value of the fight but what's at stake (the first four-belt unification in light heavyweight history) and the fact they are both undefeated until now.
Yep, that's what I mean when I say, "Fight of the Year". It's what's at stake on the fight.
The Haney Vs. Garcia fight isn't a fight of the year candidate (at least for me), and I know it's your opinion that it is, but for me, it isn't. It's all hype like what other fighters are doing. The Bivol Vs. Beterbiev fight will be focusing more on what's at stake, and the hype doesn't matter. After all, both are friends IRL, and I don't think they will fight themselves just to hype up the fight. This fight will be more of a "Gaethje Vs. Holloway" in the UFC.
Anyway, it's still early for the year. Maybe we might see fighters who will fight each other that can be a "Fight of the Year" candidate. Crawford Vs. Canelo? That might be "IF IT HAPPENS".
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In other news, it looks like Ryan Garcia is out of control,
In a venue where he typically is found conducting boxing news conferences, Ryan Garcia has strayed into trouble again – this time prompting his arrest.
Garcia on Saturday afternoon was reportedly arrested on suspicion of felony vandalism at the Beverly Hills Waldorf Astoria.
TMZ Sports posted video of a shirtless Garcia, 25, being taken into custody in handcuffs, the news agency reporting law enforcement sources saying that they apprehended the boxer for allegedly damaging property in his hotel room and a hallway.
https://www.boxingscene.com/report-ryan-garcia-arrested-on-charge-felony-vandalism--184119
Seriously, this kid really needs help right now as he might be undergoing another public meltdown because of the Peds issues on him. For sure he can get away with it by paying what he has damage. But still, he shouldn't be doing this as it will ruin his career.
He had a lot of money already, so I don't understand why he need to do this. And most famous celebrities really think that they are above the law and that they can get away with it vandalizing places.
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In other news, it looks like Ryan Garcia is out of control,
In a venue where he typically is found conducting boxing news conferences, Ryan Garcia has strayed into trouble again – this time prompting his arrest.
Garcia on Saturday afternoon was reportedly arrested on suspicion of felony vandalism at the Beverly Hills Waldorf Astoria.
TMZ Sports posted video of a shirtless Garcia, 25, being taken into custody in handcuffs, the news agency reporting law enforcement sources saying that they apprehended the boxer for allegedly damaging property in his hotel room and a hallway.
https://www.boxingscene.com/report-ryan-garcia-arrested-on-charge-felony-vandalism--184119
Seriously, this kid really needs help right now as he might be undergoing another public meltdown because of the Peds issues on him. For sure he can get away with it by paying what he has damage. But still, he shouldn't be doing this as it will ruin his career.
He had a lot of money already, so I don't understand why he need to do this. And most famous celebrities really think that they are above the law and that they can get away with it vandalizing places.
Now i started to believed that indeed indeed this kid has got some mental health issues and all he needs right now is a therapy. If this can't be contain early this might be the reason for the ruining of his career. He got away with his antics on the Haney fight and with that all eyes will be on him so he should be careful on the things that he is doing off the ring.
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Seriously, this kid really needs help right now as he might be undergoing another public meltdown because of the Peds issues on him. For sure he can get away with it by paying what he has damage. But still, he shouldn't be doing this as it will ruin his career.
He had a lot of money already, so I don't understand why he need to do this. And most famous celebrities really think that they are above the law and that they can get away with it vandalizing places.
With this, I have 2 things in my mind.
It's either he really is using drugs hence, he's doing things like this, or he is a clout chaser, and he wants people to remember him and for him, this is his way of being popular.
TBH, there's no surprise that he can do this. I mean we've seen him trolling on social media, a thing that a professional boxer isn't normally doing. Like you though, I'm a bit afraid that he might really need some help from experts because of what he's doing. For sure, he can do things that might be worse than this.
Or maybe this is his way of protesting because him and Haney still didn't get their pay cut from their fight? :D
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All I can say about Ryan Garcia that money and fame are destroying his talent. It all has started from being popular on social media. He has turned into being a prodigy boxer, into addicted for attention person. Imho he is more hungry for fame, then being a boxer. In addition he needs a mentor. A person who would aim him into right direction. Because right now, money, debauchery and vulgarity are killing him. Imho he will repeat faith of Mike Tyson, when he has earned a lot of money, but his promotor robbed him.
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All I can say about Ryan Garcia that money and fame are destroying his talent. It all has started from being popular on social media. He has turned into being a prodigy boxer, into addicted for attention person. Imho he is more hungry for fame, then being a boxer. In addition he needs a mentor. A person who would aim him into right direction. Because right now, money, debauchery and vulgarity are killing him. Imho he will repeat faith of Mike Tyson, when he has earned a lot of money, but his promotor robbed him.
he has a mentor when it comes to build his reputation and assets, i watched this before with Pat -David of Minnect. Ryan is just getting frustrated by the boxing organization that pushes him after he beat their biggest puppy Haney and then he began drinking. feel sorry for this kid.
and then the hotel call the police for this kind of offense when most of the time they usually just charges the person of the cost when they ruin something in the hotel. but then anyway, Ryan is going to prison for this?
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All I can say about Ryan Garcia that money and fame are destroying his talent. It all has started from being popular on social media. He has turned into being a prodigy boxer, into addicted for attention person. Imho he is more hungry for fame, then being a boxer. In addition he needs a mentor. A person who would aim him into right direction. Because right now, money, debauchery and vulgarity are killing him. Imho he will repeat faith of Mike Tyson, when he has earned a lot of money, but his promotor robbed him.
I totally agree with you, he is in for the fame and not solely for boxing. If he fails to get an adviser ASAP, most likely the controversies that were thrown to him might bring his career in boxing down. He may have the money and can afford to stay away from it but his talent is will be put into a waste.
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All I can say about Ryan Garcia that money and fame are destroying his talent. It all has started from being popular on social media. He has turned into being a prodigy boxer, into addicted for attention person. Imho he is more hungry for fame, then being a boxer. In addition he needs a mentor. A person who would aim him into right direction. Because right now, money, debauchery and vulgarity are killing him. Imho he will repeat faith of Mike Tyson, when he has earned a lot of money, but his promotor robbed him.
he has a mentor when it comes to build his reputation and assets, i watched this before with Pat -David of Minnect. Ryan is just getting frustrated by the boxing organization that pushes him after he beat their biggest puppy Haney and then he began drinking. feel sorry for this kid.
and then the hotel call the police for this kind of offense when most of the time they usually just charges the person of the cost when they ruin something in the hotel. but then anyway, Ryan is going to prison for this?
Of course he is not going to prison for that. I think nobody get into prison only for ruining hotel room. He will pay fine and will be released. Btw, people now can try to speculate and earn on his name. Now this hotel probably is getting a portion of fame. A think next will be some girls that will try to say that Ryan tried to harass them or punched them. Ryan can be seen often with Oscar De La Hoya, and that guy had series legal issues himself.
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What can you say about Tank Davis not showing on their supposedly grand arrivals today? And it was his trainer who gave the interviews? I reckon that he might be somewhere else or really doesn't want to attend it and promote the fight?
On the other hand, Oscar dela Hoya responded to Canelo Alvarez,
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4d3-V81Lk8k (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4d3-V81Lk8k)
And it seems the war is still ongoing between the two.
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The Liam Paro vs Subriel Matias weigh in has been completed, and they've make it at the limit of 140 lbs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARqydgu2bnE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARqydgu2bnE)
Matias reminds of his fellow Boricua, Felix "Tito", Trinidad, I mean they have a uncanny resemblance, but their style is totally different. And for this fight I predicted that Matias is going to stop Paro here, as he had ring rust. And I'm seeing a stoppage around round 7.
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Congratulations to our very own Mark Magsayo for winning his fight against Eduardo Ramirez. He won via judges decision, but the gap in the score is huge, 97-92 (twice) and 99-90.
So it means he has dominated the fight from the first round, and even scored a knockdown in the third. I thought that Ramirez will not that last long, but sure he is a tough fighter but Magsayo is too accurate in this fight although he also eat some from Ramirez.
Let's see what's up for Magsayo after this win, hopefully, he can go and fight for another title, or at least given the opportunity.
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Congratulations to our very own Mark Magsayo for winning his fight against Eduardo Ramirez. He won via judges decision, but the gap in the score is huge, 97-92 (twice) and 99-90.
So it means he has dominated the fight from the first round, and even scored a knockdown in the third. I thought that Ramirez will not that last long, but sure he is a tough fighter but Magsayo is too accurate in this fight although he also eat some from Ramirez.
Let's see what's up for Magsayo after this win, hopefully, he can go and fight for another title, or at least given the opportunity.
I'm browsing through some of the sports bookies but sadly they didn't cover this fight. I just wonder who is the favorite, Magsayo or Ramirez?
Anyway, congrats to Magsayo for winning the WBA Inter-continental Super Featherweight title and for sure his ranking goes up with this win and the chance to fight again for a world title is high.
On the main event, Tank Davis has KOed Frank Martin in the 8th round. The latter was leading in the scorecards but gassed out going into the championship rounds where Davis pummeled him out.
There are talks that Davis will fight Loma next as there is an on going negotiation for that fight.
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There are talks that Davis will fight Loma next as there is an on going negotiation for that fight.
loma is well known to boxing sure this is a big money for both. i'm just skeptical that it would happen since loma is clearly at his disadvantage being the old man that he is. if he is just in his prime it might just be a neck and neck fight. but there is always room for money talks in every match.
its very hard to find someone to fight davis since it requires his opponent to be as popular as him to make millions. if he could go down to 122lbs, i think inoue would fill the stadium of more than 50k people.
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All I can say about Ryan Garcia that money and fame are destroying his talent. It all has started from being popular on social media. He has turned into being a prodigy boxer, into addicted for attention person. Imho he is more hungry for fame, then being a boxer. In addition he needs a mentor. A person who would aim him into right direction. Because right now, money, debauchery and vulgarity are killing him. Imho he will repeat faith of Mike Tyson, when he has earned a lot of money, but his promotor robbed him.
Indeed, social media can actually have a double edge sword effect on people, as much as it has its own advantages, there are also several disadvantageous effects we can see in social media.
While social media can indeed increase a person's fame and visibility, social media pressure can also cause one to get distracted, which can actually affect the person's performance in his work or career, and I think that's exactly the phase of the social media that Ryan is facing.
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All I can say about Ryan Garcia that money and fame are destroying his talent. It all has started from being popular on social media. He has turned into being a prodigy boxer, into addicted for attention person. Imho he is more hungry for fame, then being a boxer. In addition he needs a mentor. A person who would aim him into right direction. Because right now, money, debauchery and vulgarity are killing him. Imho he will repeat faith of Mike Tyson, when he has earned a lot of money, but his promotor robbed him.
Indeed, social media can actually have a double edge sword effect on people, as much as it has its own advantages, there are also several disadvantageous effects we can see in social media.
While social media can indeed increase a person's fame and visibility, social media pressure can also cause one to get distracted, which can actually affect the person's performance in his work or career, and I think that's exactly the phase of the social media that Ryan is facing.
there was a study about this where social media affects more to someone who is famous since all eyes are watching them and judging them all the time. they become anxious most of the time when the attention is not on them. yet it becomes a torture to them when the attention is about the bed stuff they did.
in the case of garcia and fury, they are being talked negatively by every page of boxing discussion especially on youtube videos. regardless of what they say on interviews, people will find faults on them and its a mental pressure.
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Congratulations to our very own Mark Magsayo for winning his fight against Eduardo Ramirez. He won via judges decision, but the gap in the score is huge, 97-92 (twice) and 99-90.
So it means he has dominated the fight from the first round, and even scored a knockdown in the third. I thought that Ramirez will not that last long, but sure he is a tough fighter but Magsayo is too accurate in this fight although he also eat some from Ramirez.
Let's see what's up for Magsayo after this win, hopefully, he can go and fight for another title, or at least given the opportunity.
I'm browsing through some of the sports bookies but sadly they didn't cover this fight. I just wonder who is the favorite, Magsayo or Ramirez?
Anyway, congrats to Magsayo for winning the WBA Inter-continental Super Featherweight title and for sure his ranking goes up with this win and the chance to fight again for a world title is high.
On the main event, Tank Davis has KOed Frank Martin in the 8th round. The latter was leading in the scorecards but gassed out going into the championship rounds where Davis pummeled him out.
There are talks that Davis will fight Loma next as there is an on going negotiation for that fight.
I was not sure but it was Magsayo that I believed the favorite here.
As for the main event, yes, Tank Davis just uses his boxing IQ in this fight, and did try to chase Frank Martin with body shots and that perfect shot that he throw was like Leo Santa Cruz KO. Hopefully, Davis will go after Loma.
And we have a upset in the 140 lbs, as Paro beat Matias, The scores were 115-112, 115-112 and 116-111, all in favor of Paro. Short lived champion from Puerto Rico as he is exposed by Paro here using his boxing skills.
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As for the main event, yes, Tank Davis just uses his boxing IQ in this fight, and did try to chase Frank Martin with body shots and that perfect shot that he throw was like Leo Santa Cruz KO. Hopefully, Davis will go after Loma.
I wanna see how Loma will perform against a heavy hitter like Tank Davis. We all knew that he did not do well against Teofimo Lopez even if he was still in his prime at that time. I want to see Loma doing the matrix thing against Davis who is known as a slow starter.
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As for the main event, yes, Tank Davis just uses his boxing IQ in this fight, and did try to chase Frank Martin with body shots and that perfect shot that he throw was like Leo Santa Cruz KO. Hopefully, Davis will go after Loma.
I wanna see how Loma will perform against a heavy hitter like Tank Davis. We all knew that he did not do well against Teofimo Lopez even if he was still in his prime at that time. I want to see Loma doing the matrix thing against Davis who is known as a slow starter.
Exactly, that's what I also wanted to see, as I have said in the other community, Loma is aging already but this technical skills is still very high, while Tank has the power to knock anyone at this division.
https://www.boxingscene.com/bob-arum-tank-davis-vasiliy-lomachenko-talks-begin-this-week--184326
Arum said the meeting could easily take place this week because Davis’ team is in Las Vegas and Top Rank has a Friday fight in Las Vegas, with its WBO featherweight champion Rafael Espinoza set to meet Sergio Chirino Sanchez.
So potential meeting and sit down is underway and hopefully they can iron things out so that we can witnessed this super fight.
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Regarding the case of Ryan Garcia,
Ryan Garcia will find out this week what the New York State Athletic Commission will decide on what they’ll do about his positive PED test from last April in his fight against Devin Haney.
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/06/ryan-garcias-ped-test-ruling-new-york-commission-to-decide-this-week
So finally after weeks of speculation, we might found out what is the ramifications of Ryan caught using a banned substance. And as per the article, 3-6 months suspension could be handed down. I think it's fair though, at least it will not be a year and if that happens, we will not see one cash cow in boxing.
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Regarding the case of Ryan Garcia,
Ryan Garcia will find out this week what the New York State Athletic Commission will decide on what they’ll do about his positive PED test from last April in his fight against Devin Haney.
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/06/ryan-garcias-ped-test-ruling-new-york-commission-to-decide-this-week
So finally after weeks of speculation, we might found out what is the ramifications of Ryan caught using a banned substance. And as per the article, 3-6 months suspension could be handed down. I think it's fair though, at least it will not be a year and if that happens, we will not see one cash cow in boxing.
Devin Haney has hinted in his social media post the Ryan Garcia will get a two year suspension from the alleged PED use. Two years is a lot of time taken away from Ryan Garcia considering how popular he is that many would want to fight him as it sure will be a money fight if he is involve in that bout.
This is under the New York commission and if he will be suspended by that commission, could he still fight in Las Vegas where NY commission has no jurisdiction?
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Regarding the case of Ryan Garcia,
Ryan Garcia will find out this week what the New York State Athletic Commission will decide on what they’ll do about his positive PED test from last April in his fight against Devin Haney.
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/06/ryan-garcias-ped-test-ruling-new-york-commission-to-decide-this-week
So finally after weeks of speculation, we might found out what is the ramifications of Ryan caught using a banned substance. And as per the article, 3-6 months suspension could be handed down. I think it's fair though, at least it will not be a year and if that happens, we will not see one cash cow in boxing.
Devin Haney has hinted in his social media post the Ryan Garcia will get a two year suspension from the alleged PED use. Two years is a lot of time taken away from Ryan Garcia considering how popular he is that many would want to fight him as it sure will be a money fight if he is involve in that bout.
This is under the New York commission and if he will be suspended by that commission, could he still fight in Las Vegas where NY commission has no jurisdiction?
Perhaps it's imminent that Ryan will be suspended, or might have been suspended already, and so,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/06/20/hGT3m.png)
https://x.com/RyanGarcia/status/1803575601380598240
It's really up to the commission that he will fight for. But if they know that he has been suspended by NYSAC then it will stand and other commissions might look into it and not allow him to fight.
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Regarding the case of Ryan Garcia,
Ryan Garcia will find out this week what the New York State Athletic Commission will decide on what they’ll do about his positive PED test from last April in his fight against Devin Haney.
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/06/ryan-garcias-ped-test-ruling-new-york-commission-to-decide-this-week
So finally after weeks of speculation, we might found out what is the ramifications of Ryan caught using a banned substance. And as per the article, 3-6 months suspension could be handed down. I think it's fair though, at least it will not be a year and if that happens, we will not see one cash cow in boxing.
Devin Haney has hinted in his social media post the Ryan Garcia will get a two year suspension from the alleged PED use. Two years is a lot of time taken away from Ryan Garcia considering how popular he is that many would want to fight him as it sure will be a money fight if he is involve in that bout.
This is under the New York commission and if he will be suspended by that commission, could he still fight in Las Vegas where NY commission has no jurisdiction?
Perhaps it's imminent that Ryan will be suspended, or might have been suspended already, and so,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/06/20/hGT3m.png)
https://x.com/RyanGarcia/status/1803575601380598240
It's really up to the commission that he will fight for. But if they know that he has been suspended by NYSAC then it will stand and other commissions might look into it and not allow him to fight.
I have read in social media that Ryan Garcia has reached a settlement with the NYSAC. He will be suspended for at least a year and will forfeit $1.1M of his official contract purse and in addition to that, his fight with Haney is ruled a "no-contest".
Don't have the official link on the above news but i think this is true.
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I have read in social media that Ryan Garcia has reached a settlement with the NYSAC. He will be suspended for at least a year and will forfeit $1.1M of his official contract purse and in addition to that, his fight with Haney is ruled a "no-contest".
Don't have the official link on the above news but i think this is true.
Here's the link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2024/06/20/ryan-garcia-suspended-failed-drug-test-devin-haney-no-contest/74163795007/
The ruling is that the fight is considered a no-contest fight because of what happened, and I guess this is pretty fair knowing that Garcia broke the rules. He will be suspended for a year, but the fact that he said that he will retire, it doesn't matter to him "UNLESS" he's just trolling again with that retirement thing-y. As for Haney, I've seen some posts online saying that he will be out for 2 years to recover himself. With a title in his hand, I wonder what will happen to it especially now that it seems like WBC is ordering him to fight.
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I have read in social media that Ryan Garcia has reached a settlement with the NYSAC. He will be suspended for at least a year and will forfeit $1.1M of his official contract purse and in addition to that, his fight with Haney is ruled a "no-contest".
Don't have the official link on the above news but i think this is true.
Here's the link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2024/06/20/ryan-garcia-suspended-failed-drug-test-devin-haney-no-contest/74163795007/
The ruling is that the fight is considered a no-contest fight because of what happened, and I guess this is pretty fair knowing that Garcia broke the rules. He will be suspended for a year, but the fact that he said that he will retire, it doesn't matter to him "UNLESS" he's just trolling again with that retirement thing-y. As for Haney, I've seen some posts online saying that he will be out for 2 years to recover himself. With a title in his hand, I wonder what will happen to it especially now that it seems like WBC is ordering him to fight.
It is what it is, yeah it's one year suspension for Ryan Garcia, but I think he can handle it, he has so much money right now and not fight in a year and still have that deep pockets.
On the side of the Haney's they said that they are going to file cases for Ryan. I still don't know what the Haney's are still pursuing Ryan. Perhaps the humiliation that they got from Ryan, hehehe.
They should rematch after the suspension because that is going to be huge money again for sure.
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I have read in social media that Ryan Garcia has reached a settlement with the NYSAC. He will be suspended for at least a year and will forfeit $1.1M of his official contract purse and in addition to that, his fight with Haney is ruled a "no-contest".
Don't have the official link on the above news but i think this is true.
Here's the link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2024/06/20/ryan-garcia-suspended-failed-drug-test-devin-haney-no-contest/74163795007/
The ruling is that the fight is considered a no-contest fight because of what happened, and I guess this is pretty fair knowing that Garcia broke the rules. He will be suspended for a year, but the fact that he said that he will retire, it doesn't matter to him "UNLESS" he's just trolling again with that retirement thing-y. As for Haney, I've seen some posts online saying that he will be out for 2 years to recover himself. With a title in his hand, I wonder what will happen to it especially now that it seems like WBC is ordering him to fight.
It is what it is, yeah it's one year suspension for Ryan Garcia, but I think he can handle it, he has so much money right now and not fight in a year and still have that deep pockets.
On the side of the Haney's they said that they are going to file cases for Ryan. I still don't know what the Haney's are still pursuing Ryan. Perhaps the humiliation that they got from Ryan, hehehe.
They should rematch after the suspension because that is going to be huge money again for sure.
rematch at catch weight maybe. they thought ryan will lose again because the kid is already demented on social media and will not be able to think strategically in the ring.
ryan learned his lesson after his fight with tank. he'd rather pay a million so he'd fight without cutting waters. the haneys are hurt, definitely made a big promise to KO ryan to big bettors and suddenly bill sees his son crawling on the fight night. maybe the the high rollers behind haneys wants to get their money back and overturn this win into NC. conspiracy theory maybe.
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I have read in social media that Ryan Garcia has reached a settlement with the NYSAC. He will be suspended for at least a year and will forfeit $1.1M of his official contract purse and in addition to that, his fight with Haney is ruled a "no-contest".
Don't have the official link on the above news but i think this is true.
Here's the link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2024/06/20/ryan-garcia-suspended-failed-drug-test-devin-haney-no-contest/74163795007/
The ruling is that the fight is considered a no-contest fight because of what happened, and I guess this is pretty fair knowing that Garcia broke the rules. He will be suspended for a year, but the fact that he said that he will retire, it doesn't matter to him "UNLESS" he's just trolling again with that retirement thing-y. As for Haney, I've seen some posts online saying that he will be out for 2 years to recover himself. With a title in his hand, I wonder what will happen to it especially now that it seems like WBC is ordering him to fight.
It is what it is, yeah it's one year suspension for Ryan Garcia, but I think he can handle it, he has so much money right now and not fight in a year and still have that deep pockets.
On the side of the Haney's they said that they are going to file cases for Ryan. I still don't know what the Haney's are still pursuing Ryan. Perhaps the humiliation that they got from Ryan, hehehe.
They should rematch after the suspension because that is going to be huge money again for sure.
Money-wise, Ryan Garcia has no problem with that at all because per report, he earned $30 million on that fight. He forfeited only $1.8 million so he still got a whooping $28 millions left on his pocket.
Though Haney's record was reverted back to no losses but the damaged has been done, he was exposed big time by Garcia, that maybe the reason why he still planning of suing the latter hehe.
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I have read in social media that Ryan Garcia has reached a settlement with the NYSAC. He will be suspended for at least a year and will forfeit $1.1M of his official contract purse and in addition to that, his fight with Haney is ruled a "no-contest".
Don't have the official link on the above news but i think this is true.
Here's the link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2024/06/20/ryan-garcia-suspended-failed-drug-test-devin-haney-no-contest/74163795007/
The ruling is that the fight is considered a no-contest fight because of what happened, and I guess this is pretty fair knowing that Garcia broke the rules. He will be suspended for a year, but the fact that he said that he will retire, it doesn't matter to him "UNLESS" he's just trolling again with that retirement thing-y. As for Haney, I've seen some posts online saying that he will be out for 2 years to recover himself. With a title in his hand, I wonder what will happen to it especially now that it seems like WBC is ordering him to fight.
It is what it is, yeah it's one year suspension for Ryan Garcia, but I think he can handle it, he has so much money right now and not fight in a year and still have that deep pockets.
On the side of the Haney's they said that they are going to file cases for Ryan. I still don't know what the Haney's are still pursuing Ryan. Perhaps the humiliation that they got from Ryan, hehehe.
They should rematch after the suspension because that is going to be huge money again for sure.
Money-wise, Ryan Garcia has no problem with that at all because per report, he earned $30 million on that fight. He forfeited only $1.8 million so he still got a whooping $28 millions left on his pocket.
Though Haney's record was reverted back to no losses but the damaged has been done, he was exposed big time by Garcia, that maybe the reason why he still planning of suing the latter hehe.
It's not about the money, it's more on the damage that has been done by Garcia to the Haney's that's why they wanted to go and wanted to ban Ryan for more than a year and let him pay more. But it doesn't really look good for them, Devin has just work up from his "Dream" that he no longer has that 0 in his record although it was overturn to NC.
The fans have seen what Ryan did to him, embarassed in front of the boxing fans around the world, knockdown thrice and obviously losing to Ryan. That mental damage that the Haney's take in this one was too much. But I do agree that a rematch will create tons of money for the two and that should happen after the suspension.
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There are talks that Davis will fight Loma next as there is an on going negotiation for that fight.
loma is well known to boxing sure this is a big money for both. i'm just skeptical that it would happen since loma is clearly at his disadvantage being the old man that he is. if he is just in his prime it might just be a neck and neck fight. but there is always room for money talks in every match.
its very hard to find someone to fight davis since it requires his opponent to be as popular as him to make millions. if he could go down to 122lbs, i think inoue would fill the stadium of more than 50k people.
With 36 years of age, I guess that might affect a bit, but aside from that, Tank's power and his intelligence when he's inside the ring is just at the highest level. I wonder why he doesn't want to fight Pitbull again based on the interview after his win against Frank Martin.
Against Inoue, I don't think it will happen because it's hard to go down from 135 - 122 lbs. As for Davis - Loma fight, I don't think that Loma has a chance to win TBH. Tank is just unstoppable to this moment, and I can't hardly think of any fighter on his division that can stop him.
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It's not about the money, it's more on the damage that has been done by Garcia to the Haney's that's why they wanted to go and wanted to ban Ryan for more than a year and let him pay more. But it doesn't really look good for them, Devin has just work up from his "Dream" that he no longer has that 0 in his record although it was overturn to NC.
The fans have seen what Ryan did to him, embarassed in front of the boxing fans around the world, knockdown thrice and obviously losing to Ryan. That mental damage that the Haney's take in this one was too much. But I do agree that a rematch will create tons of money for the two and that should happen after the suspension.
Per report, Devin Haney is asking DAZN and Youtube to erase all the footage of that fight as if the fight did not happen. I think that was too much of them to ask that one. Even if the footage was erased, they can't deny that the boxing community already knows that Haney has a glass chin and got pillow punch hehe.
Haney got to rematch Garcia and win that one to regain the respect of the boxing community.
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It's not about the money, it's more on the damage that has been done by Garcia to the Haney's that's why they wanted to go and wanted to ban Ryan for more than a year and let him pay more. But it doesn't really look good for them, Devin has just work up from his "Dream" that he no longer has that 0 in his record although it was overturn to NC.
The fans have seen what Ryan did to him, embarassed in front of the boxing fans around the world, knockdown thrice and obviously losing to Ryan. That mental damage that the Haney's take in this one was too much. But I do agree that a rematch will create tons of money for the two and that should happen after the suspension.
Per report, Devin Haney is asking DAZN and Youtube to erase all the footage of that fight as if the fight did not happen. I think that was too much of them to ask that one. Even if the footage was erased, they can't deny that the boxing community already knows that Haney has a glass chin and got pillow punch hehe.
Haney got to rematch Garcia and win that one to regain the respect of the boxing community.
lol idk if this is really true. i only saw two articles about it, its insane. but i'm not goingto be surprise if its true though. the haneys been trying to nail ryan and taking his win from his pro record. ryan posted in his twitter saying he will file a case against them. his camp said there are have been many boxers proven to have been caught abusing PEDs but none of their wins were erased lie NC.
haney trying to erase his embarrassing knock downs from DAZN and on youtube is like erasing the past. this is kind of pdiddy level of narcissism.
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lol idk if this is really true. i only saw two articles about it, its insane. but i'm not goingto be surprise if its true though. the haneys been trying to nail ryan and taking his win from his pro record. ryan posted in his twitter saying he will file a case against them. his camp said there are have been many boxers proven to have been caught abusing PEDs but none of their wins were erased lie NC.
haney trying to erase his embarrassing knock downs from DAZN and on youtube is like erasing the past. this is kind of pdiddy level of narcissism.
You are right, Haney just can't move on from that lose to Ryan Garcia, it has taken away so much of his confidence that he can't fight anymore which is a sign that he is a weak boxer. Have nothing against him but he is the one that needs counselling as his mental health might be the one was affected not Ryan's.
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lol idk if this is really true. i only saw two articles about it, its insane. but i'm not goingto be surprise if its true though. the haneys been trying to nail ryan and taking his win from his pro record. ryan posted in his twitter saying he will file a case against them. his camp said there are have been many boxers proven to have been caught abusing PEDs but none of their wins were erased lie NC.
haney trying to erase his embarrassing knock downs from DAZN and on youtube is like erasing the past. this is kind of pdiddy level of narcissism.
You are right, Haney just can't move on from that lose to Ryan Garcia, it has taken away so much of his confidence that he can't fight anymore which is a sign that he is a weak boxer. Have nothing against him but he is the one that needs counselling as his mental health might be the one was affected not Ryan's.
And with that, he won't be fighting Sandor Martin, as Haney requested that he be a "Champion in Recess". So he won't be defending his belt for the meantime it will be Albert Puello relegated to a full champion status that will fight Sandor Martin.
https://www.ringtv.com/674610-devin-haney-named-champion-in-recess-wbc-orders-alberto-puello-sandor-martin/
They are still under going negotiation though but in less than 30 days we will find out if the plan are moving or it will go on another purse bid. Perhaps it was too much for Haney right now that he decided to just rest.
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lol idk if this is really true. i only saw two articles about it, its insane. but i'm not goingto be surprise if its true though. the haneys been trying to nail ryan and taking his win from his pro record. ryan posted in his twitter saying he will file a case against them. his camp said there are have been many boxers proven to have been caught abusing PEDs but none of their wins were erased lie NC.
haney trying to erase his embarrassing knock downs from DAZN and on youtube is like erasing the past. this is kind of pdiddy level of narcissism.
You are right, Haney just can't move on from that lose to Ryan Garcia, it has taken away so much of his confidence that he can't fight anymore which is a sign that he is a weak boxer. Have nothing against him but he is the one that needs counselling as his mental health might be the one was affected not Ryan's.
And with that, he won't be fighting Sandor Martin, as Haney requested that he be a "Champion in Recess". So he won't be defending his belt for the meantime it will be Albert Puello relegated to a full champion status that will fight Sandor Martin.
https://www.ringtv.com/674610-devin-haney-named-champion-in-recess-wbc-orders-alberto-puello-sandor-martin/
They are still under going negotiation though but in less than 30 days we will find out if the plan are moving or it will go on another purse bid. Perhaps it was too much for Haney right now that he decided to just rest.
If I remember correctly, he already said it to the public that he will have a 2-year rest in boxing because of what happened to him. He said way earlier than Garcia's announcement on his social media accounts.
Anyway, I'm just curious what will happen to the belt that Haney is holding. I think WBC wants a mandatory fight between him and Martin, and with him having a rest, will not making the fight means vacating the title? Well, with what happened to both Haney and Garcia, and with all the controversies around them, they can't handle the pressure anymore thus, having a rest/retiring in the game would be their best option.
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both ryan and haney will be out of boxing then. these guys truly put all their careers aside because of that embarrassing fight lol
ryan was offered to fight in UFC afaik, if he does, it would be really be making a big change in his life. hes been beefing UFC fighters like Conor and Suga, these 2 for up for big pay if they can arrange Ryan for it. i think ryan could win against these two. they are not up to takedown like wrestlers which ryan will have his fair fight even i he goes to UFC after all he is suspended in boxing indefinitely.
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both ryan and haney will be out of boxing then. these guys truly put all their careers aside because of that embarrassing fight lol
ryan was offered to fight in UFC afaik, if he does, it would be really be making a big change in his life. hes been beefing UFC fighters like Conor and Suga, these 2 for up for big pay if they can arrange Ryan for it. i think ryan could win against these two. they are not up to takedown like wrestlers which ryan will have his fair fight even i he goes to UFC after all he is suspended in boxing indefinitely.
That will be good, even Dana commented that Ryan might just be a victim of contamination and that he didn't take the performance enhancing drugs because we can clearly see that Ryan's power has been there with him.
As compare to Haney in which his chin is always suspected.
It will be good while Ryan is serving his suspension, maybe he can fight in the UFC. It will be one of the biggest fights if him and Conor can go in the ring, for sure fans are willing to buy that PPV and the trash talking to promote the fight is going to be huge, hehehe.
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both ryan and haney will be out of boxing then. these guys truly put all their careers aside because of that embarrassing fight lol
ryan was offered to fight in UFC afaik, if he does, it would be really be making a big change in his life. hes been beefing UFC fighters like Conor and Suga, these 2 for up for big pay if they can arrange Ryan for it. i think ryan could win against these two. they are not up to takedown like wrestlers which ryan will have his fair fight even i he goes to UFC after all he is suspended in boxing indefinitely.
I doubt - especially for Garcia. I mean what will be they're doing after the suspension?
They said that they will retire or stop from fighting in the boxing ring out of frustration after what happened, but at some point, in the future, I still believe that both of them will return in the boxing ring to fight. It's their career, and of course their job as well.
Garcia in the UFC? I can't remember a boxer who switched professions and became a successful UFC fighter. I've seen UFC fighters fought in the boxing ring, and they all ended up losing very badly. I hope Ryan will not accept this offer because I don't think that he can stay long in the Octagon. He can fight for entertainment purposes only maybe, but to have a new career in UFC? Nah.
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both ryan and haney will be out of boxing then. these guys truly put all their careers aside because of that embarrassing fight lol
ryan was offered to fight in UFC afaik, if he does, it would be really be making a big change in his life. hes been beefing UFC fighters like Conor and Suga, these 2 for up for big pay if they can arrange Ryan for it. i think ryan could win against these two. they are not up to takedown like wrestlers which ryan will have his fair fight even i he goes to UFC after all he is suspended in boxing indefinitely.
I doubt - especially for Garcia. I mean what will be they're doing after the suspension?
They said that they will retire or stop from fighting in the boxing ring out of frustration after what happened, but at some point, in the future, I still believe that both of them will return in the boxing ring to fight. It's their career, and of course their job as well.
Garcia in the UFC? I can't remember a boxer who switched professions and became a successful UFC fighter. I've seen UFC fighters fought in the boxing ring, and they all ended up losing very badly. I hope Ryan will not accept this offer because I don't think that he can stay long in the Octagon. He can fight for entertainment purposes only maybe, but to have a new career in UFC? Nah.
WBC banned Ryan forever as far as i know. and i don't know if any of those boxing organization is willing to take him back after all the things he been saying while drunk. this time he won't get away with this N word, he messed up with the black community. they make this a serious offense these days. The world gone mad already about the pronouns and he a tactless celeb.
anyway, Ryan will be accepted in UFC especially that he is famous, Dana will take care of him. recently Dan Ige show interest in fighting him as well. its still up to him though but he already expressed that he MAY.
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both ryan and haney will be out of boxing then. these guys truly put all their careers aside because of that embarrassing fight lol
ryan was offered to fight in UFC afaik, if he does, it would be really be making a big change in his life. hes been beefing UFC fighters like Conor and Suga, these 2 for up for big pay if they can arrange Ryan for it. i think ryan could win against these two. they are not up to takedown like wrestlers which ryan will have his fair fight even i he goes to UFC after all he is suspended in boxing indefinitely.
I doubt - especially for Garcia. I mean what will be they're doing after the suspension?
They said that they will retire or stop from fighting in the boxing ring out of frustration after what happened, but at some point, in the future, I still believe that both of them will return in the boxing ring to fight. It's their career, and of course their job as well.
Garcia in the UFC? I can't remember a boxer who switched professions and became a successful UFC fighter. I've seen UFC fighters fought in the boxing ring, and they all ended up losing very badly. I hope Ryan will not accept this offer because I don't think that he can stay long in the Octagon. He can fight for entertainment purposes only maybe, but to have a new career in UFC? Nah.
WBC banned Ryan forever as far as i know. and i don't know if any of those boxing organization is willing to take him back after all the things he been saying while drunk. this time he won't get away with this N word, he messed up with the black community. they make this a serious offense these days. The world gone mad already about the pronouns and he a tactless celeb.
anyway, Ryan will be accepted in UFC especially that he is famous, Dana will take care of him. recently Dan Ige show interest in fighting him as well. its still up to him though but he already expressed that he MAY.
If others are not aware of why Ryan was expelled from the WBC, it's because of Ryan's racial tirade in his social media post,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/07/07/okYK8.png)
https://x.com/wbcmoro/status/1808998644127051947
So now, it could be a combination of substance abuse (alcohol and drugs) that really push him to the brink of his mental issues again. So sorry that he had to be this way though and as if no one has been helping him.
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both ryan and haney will be out of boxing then. these guys truly put all their careers aside because of that embarrassing fight lol
ryan was offered to fight in UFC afaik, if he does, it would be really be making a big change in his life. hes been beefing UFC fighters like Conor and Suga, these 2 for up for big pay if they can arrange Ryan for it. i think ryan could win against these two. they are not up to takedown like wrestlers which ryan will have his fair fight even i he goes to UFC after all he is suspended in boxing indefinitely.
I doubt - especially for Garcia. I mean what will be they're doing after the suspension?
They said that they will retire or stop from fighting in the boxing ring out of frustration after what happened, but at some point, in the future, I still believe that both of them will return in the boxing ring to fight. It's their career, and of course their job as well.
Garcia in the UFC? I can't remember a boxer who switched professions and became a successful UFC fighter. I've seen UFC fighters fought in the boxing ring, and they all ended up losing very badly. I hope Ryan will not accept this offer because I don't think that he can stay long in the Octagon. He can fight for entertainment purposes only maybe, but to have a new career in UFC? Nah.
WBC banned Ryan forever as far as i know. and i don't know if any of those boxing organization is willing to take him back after all the things he been saying while drunk. this time he won't get away with this N word, he messed up with the black community. they make this a serious offense these days. The world gone mad already about the pronouns and he a tactless celeb.
anyway, Ryan will be accepted in UFC especially that he is famous, Dana will take care of him. recently Dan Ige show interest in fighting him as well. its still up to him though but he already expressed that he MAY.
If others are not aware of why Ryan was expelled from the WBC, it's because of Ryan's racial tirade in his social media post,
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https://x.com/wbcmoro/status/1808998644127051947
So now, it could be a combination of substance abuse (alcohol and drugs) that really push him to the brink of his mental issues again. So sorry that he had to be this way though and as if no one has been helping him.
Oh, thanks for the reminder @electronicash and @Baofeng.
I'm a bit late with those racial comments that he did on social media then. :D
Well, I guess this actions that he made further amplifies what he said regarding him retiring for boxing forever then. He doesn't want to return maybe that's why he did this. Like what others are thinking, I feel sorry and sad for him because he's one of the greatest boxers in his division and at one point, many are talking about him because of what he done in the ring. Now he's been talking because of these kinds of actions that he's done, and all of those trollings he made online. From one of the best to now banned forever.
Mental health issues sure is a thing folks. As for him going to UFC, I guess we might see it, but he must go to a rehab center first.
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On the fight between Shakur Stevenson vs. Artem Harutyunyan. Shakur Stevenson won via a one lopsided decision again, 119-109, 118-110 and 116-112. However, the fans who bought ticket to watch the fight live was not very happy with it, and this fight Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey, hometown of Shakur. But it didn't stop the fans from "booing" after the winner has announced and that their local hero won. It was expected of Shakur's fight, very boring as he didn't deliver any knockout performance here as he decided to just control the fight from the distance and his style was not appreciated by his own fans.
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On the fight between Shakur Stevenson vs. Artem Harutyunyan. Shakur Stevenson won via a one lopsided decision again, 119-109, 118-110 and 116-112. However, the fans who bought ticket to watch the fight live was not very happy with it, and this fight Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey, hometown of Shakur. But it didn't stop the fans from "booing" after the winner has announced and that their local hero won. It was expected of Shakur's fight, very boring as he didn't deliver any knockout performance here as he decided to just control the fight from the distance and his style was not appreciated by his own fans.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more with you mate that indeed it was a very boring fight and to be honest i fell asleep while watching the fight live on YouTube. I would not be surprised if that was his last fight with Top Rank and Bob Arum would not re-sign him anymore as Bob has been very vocal ever since about Shakur's boring style of fight.
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Nice win for Nate Diaz against Jorge Masvidal.
This was their first boxing fight, but in MMA Masvidal was better so they are now 1:1, maybe we can see trilogy and another boxing fight between them.
I dont like scoring system in boxing and Masvidal thinks he did enough to win this fight on points, but he should improve his boxing skills more.
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Nice win for Nate Diaz against Jorge Masvidal.
This was their first boxing fight, but in MMA Masvidal was better so they are now 1:1, maybe we can see trilogy and another boxing fight between them.
I dont like scoring system in boxing and Masvidal thinks he did enough to win this fight on points, but he should improve his boxing skills more.
I haven't seen the whole thing but have watched the highlights. It looked like Masvidal's strategy was to let Nate do his thing, being peppering Jorge with low-power punches, while Jorge was waiting to launch a powerful counter strike. He succeeded few times at the beginning but failed to put Nate down, so he ended up losing by a decision.
Not the greatest show in the world, Masvidal was creating an impression that he didn't really want to be there, but I could be reading him wrong.
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I haven't seen the whole thing but have watched the highlights. It looked like Masvidal's strategy was to let Nate do his thing, being peppering Jorge with low-power punches, while Jorge was waiting to launch a powerful counter strike. He succeeded few times at the beginning but failed to put Nate down, so he ended up losing by a decision.
Not the greatest show in the world, Masvidal was creating an impression that he didn't really want to be there, but I could be reading him wrong.
Masvidal was trying to strike few big punches that would bring him a win with KO, but we know that is very hard to do with Nate Diaz who lost only 2 MMA fights with KO.
I know MMA is different sport but Nate can accept much more damage than Masvidal, and Nate wants to continue improving in boxing.
After watching post fight press conference fromboth fighters I think they are going to fight again in boxing.
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They weren't really rivals in UFC from what I know it was Conor and Diaz whos rival right?
They used to have big fights that Diaz once beat Conor in UFC. Didn't watch actually. Can't say I will bet either if I seen the fight live since they are both old.
What you are say is Masvidal is putting all his luck in a one big shot hoping to KO a perso that has a titanium chin? Not a good strategy because they are in a different sport.
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Regarding the fight of Boot Ennis vs David Avanesyan,
It was a one side beating inflicted by Ennis, and although he has been out and could have ring rust, he has dominated the fight to forced the corner of David to stop the fight.
And after the fight, he called Terence Crawford, but Bud said that he won't fight Ennis as he is not a ppv star and obviously, he tasted big money with the mega fight against Spence. And he had move to 154 lbs and will be fighting Madrimov for another championship belt for him.
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Regarding the fight of Boot Ennis vs David Avanesyan,
It was a one side beating inflicted by Ennis, and although he has been out and could have ring rust, he has dominated the fight to forced the corner of David to stop the fight.
And after the fight, he called Terence Crawford, but Bud said that he won't fight Ennis as he is not a ppv star and obviously, he tasted big money with the mega fight against Spence. And he had move to 154 lbs and will be fighting Madrimov for another championship belt for him.
That's bad news for Boot Ennis as he can showcase his talent with top dog on this division. On the other hand, we could understand why Terrence Crawford won't fight him as his years in boxing is number as he is getting older. He wants money fights for the few remaining fights of his career.
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Regarding the fight of Boot Ennis vs David Avanesyan,
It was a one side beating inflicted by Ennis, and although he has been out and could have ring rust, he has dominated the fight to forced the corner of David to stop the fight.
And after the fight, he called Terence Crawford, but Bud said that he won't fight Ennis as he is not a ppv star and obviously, he tasted big money with the mega fight against Spence. And he had move to 154 lbs and will be fighting Madrimov for another championship belt for him.
That's bad news for Boot Ennis as he can showcase his talent with top dog on this division. On the other hand, we could understand why Terrence Crawford won't fight him as his years in boxing is number as he is getting older. He wants money fights for the few remaining fights of his career.
Yes, it's that simple, but you can also argue that Ennis wanted to have the bigger fight in his career that's why he is calling Bud, same with Teo Lopez. Just wondering though if Teo goes up to 147 lbs, he will be a polarizing figure in that division and it will become even more hype with him and Ennis and even Bud and Spence as well as there names are champion and contender. But I think Ennis will have to have another good fight that will impressed the fans or even the Saudis to have him fight Spence. And for Lopez, the same, it seems that he hasn't carry his power at 140 lbs and so what more at a higher weight?
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Before we forget, this weekend, we will have Jake Paul vs Mike Perry. We all know that it should be Mike Tyson here, but he has medical issues and so they moved the fight to November.
Nevertheless, Jake Paul decided to take a get busy fight against Mike Perry the face of Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship (BKFC).
Perry though is a 4:1 underdog here, and I do not see him beating Jake Paul as it derail his scheduled fight with Mike Tyson this November at Netflix.
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Before we forget, this weekend, we will have Jake Paul vs Mike Perry. We all know that it should be Mike Tyson here, but he has medical issues and so they moved the fight to November.
Nevertheless, Jake Paul decided to take a get busy fight against Mike Perry the face of Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship (BKFC).
Perry though is a 4:1 underdog here, and I do not see him beating Jake Paul as it derail his scheduled fight with Mike Tyson this November at Netflix.
I browsed through the betting websites to see the odds for this fight and there is only one odds that caught my attention, the over 6.5 @1.91". This is an attractive odds for those who believes that this fight will go the distance and i might consider on betting on this one.
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Before we forget, this weekend, we will have Jake Paul vs Mike Perry. We all know that it should be Mike Tyson here, but he has medical issues and so they moved the fight to November.
Nevertheless, Jake Paul decided to take a get busy fight against Mike Perry the face of Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship (BKFC).
Perry though is a 4:1 underdog here, and I do not see him beating Jake Paul as it derail his scheduled fight with Mike Tyson this November at Netflix.
I browsed through the betting websites to see the odds for this fight and there is only one odds that caught my attention, the over 6.5 @1.91". This is an attractive odds for those who believes that this fight will go the distance and i might consider on betting on this one.
Goodluck mate, I might be skipping this fight, I might be watching the Nakatani vs Astrolabio this weekend though. However, this is going to be very difficult fight for Vincent here as he is a huge underdog against the Japanese.
And the fight will be in Japan, so another homecourt advantage here. Hopefully, he will play spoiler and upset Nakatani. I wouldn't regret putting money on Vincent here by ML.
10 is to 1 underdog, gonna be huge if our very own Astrolabio pull a miracle here, ;D
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Before we forget, this weekend, we will have Jake Paul vs Mike Perry. We all know that it should be Mike Tyson here, but he has medical issues and so they moved the fight to November.
Nevertheless, Jake Paul decided to take a get busy fight against Mike Perry the face of Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship (BKFC).
Perry though is a 4:1 underdog here, and I do not see him beating Jake Paul as it derail his scheduled fight with Mike Tyson this November at Netflix.
I browsed through the betting websites to see the odds for this fight and there is only one odds that caught my attention, the over 6.5 @1.91". This is an attractive odds for those who believes that this fight will go the distance and i might consider on betting on this one.
Goodluck mate, I might be skipping this fight, I might be watching the Nakatani vs Astrolabio this weekend though. However, this is going to be very difficult fight for Vincent here as he is a huge underdog against the Japanese.
And the fight will be in Japan, so another homecourt advantage here. Hopefully, he will play spoiler and upset Nakatani. I wouldn't regret putting money on Vincent here by ML.
10 is to 1 underdog, gonna be huge if our very own Astrolabio pull a miracle here, ;D
Thanks for the notice of the Astrolabio vs Nakatani fight mate, will also put a few dollars for this fight. Though the chance of winning is very slim as the fight will be held in Japan and also a knockout is the only way for Vincent to win the fight.
Astrolabio's record is a bit deceiving, 19 wins, 4 losses but his last lose was about a year ago but that is a majority decision lose against Jason Moloney which was the champion on that fight then he bounced back by defeating a Japanese boxer for the title elimination match that's why we are seeing him fighting for this title.
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Before we forget, this weekend, we will have Jake Paul vs Mike Perry. We all know that it should be Mike Tyson here, but he has medical issues and so they moved the fight to November.
Nevertheless, Jake Paul decided to take a get busy fight against Mike Perry the face of Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship (BKFC).
Perry though is a 4:1 underdog here, and I do not see him beating Jake Paul as it derail his scheduled fight with Mike Tyson this November at Netflix.
I browsed through the betting websites to see the odds for this fight and there is only one odds that caught my attention, the over 6.5 @1.91". This is an attractive odds for those who believes that this fight will go the distance and i might consider on betting on this one.
Goodluck mate, I might be skipping this fight, I might be watching the Nakatani vs Astrolabio this weekend though. However, this is going to be very difficult fight for Vincent here as he is a huge underdog against the Japanese.
And the fight will be in Japan, so another homecourt advantage here. Hopefully, he will play spoiler and upset Nakatani. I wouldn't regret putting money on Vincent here by ML.
10 is to 1 underdog, gonna be huge if our very own Astrolabio pull a miracle here, ;D
Thanks for the notice of the Astrolabio vs Nakatani fight mate, will also put a few dollars for this fight. Though the chance of winning is very slim as the fight will be held in Japan and also a knockout is the only way for Vincent to win the fight.
Astrolabio's record is a bit deceiving, 19 wins, 4 losses but his last lose was about a year ago but that is a majority decision lose against Jason Moloney which was the champion on that fight then he bounced back by defeating a Japanese boxer for the title elimination match that's why we are seeing him fighting for this title.
Yeah, Astrolabio could be a live dog here, as you have said, his record is deceiving and with that, he could have a chance to pull a upset and lost by knockout here.
But I guess I will just go on the ML as he is a huge underdog, and we knows, there are quite a few upsets this year and maybe he could be one of the biggest if he beat Nakatani in Japan. And nothing like supporting our very own, win or lose.
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Both Nakatani and Astrolabio make the weight in their fight, however, Jonathan Rodriguez was not able to make the weight as he is over 6 lbs the limit against Kosei Tanaka. He was given 2 hours, to lose and try to make the weight, but with that huge amount, it's really impossible.
I already put my bet on Vincent Astrolabio, although the odds has been trim down to 6.x. But still it's a great odds as he is a underdog in this fight. Probably will just look on free streaming to watch the fight.
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Unfortunately, Astrolabio was knockout in the very first round with a body shot. I thought that he will account himself here and give Nakatani a good fight. However, Nakatani is too good and set a trap and feinting on the head and so Vincent cover up but his body is exposed.
With that, Nakatani says that he wants to go up and fight Naoya Inoue at 122 lbs.
Let's see if his fellow Japanese boxer are willing to give him that chance since there are news that Inoue might go up to 126 lbs next year after his fight with TJ this year.
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Unfortunately, Astrolabio was knockout in the very first round with a body shot. I thought that he will account himself here and give Nakatani a good fight. However, Nakatani is too good and set a trap and feinting on the head and so Vincent cover up but his body is exposed.
With that, Nakatani says that he wants to go up and fight Naoya Inoue at 122 lbs.
Let's see if his fellow Japanese boxer are willing to give him that chance since there are news that Inoue might go up to 126 lbs next year after his fight with TJ this year.
Vincent Astrolabio is not a elite level boxer, sad to say, he will be just a gate keeper and not be the next big fighter from the Philippines. I'm not sure how he can go with his career with this kind of lost. Nakatani didn't even break a sweat in this fight and if you look at the body shot, it's just like a jab but Astrolabio is all over the canvass and can't get up. I do love to see Nakatani vs Inoue for all the marbles of the Japanese boxing. I haven't seen any replies from Inoue himself regarding his name being called by Junto post fight interview.
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Before we forget, this weekend, we will have Jake Paul vs Mike Perry. We all know that it should be Mike Tyson here, but he has medical issues and so they moved the fight to November.
Nevertheless, Jake Paul decided to take a get busy fight against Mike Perry the face of Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship (BKFC).
Perry though is a 4:1 underdog here, and I do not see him beating Jake Paul as it derail his scheduled fight with Mike Tyson this November at Netflix.
The underdog we thought Perry was, left everyone disappointed with how he couldn't challenge Jake Paul in the equal fight, which led Jake Paul to deal with him mercilessly
If you had watched the fight, you would have seen how Jake Paul humbled the so-called underdog by a knockout at around 6. Perry is no match for Jake Paul. I don't know who choose him as the better option to fight Jake Paul until November when Mike Tyson would fight Jake Paul.
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Before we forget, this weekend, we will have Jake Paul vs Mike Perry. We all know that it should be Mike Tyson here, but he has medical issues and so they moved the fight to November.
Nevertheless, Jake Paul decided to take a get busy fight against Mike Perry the face of Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship (BKFC).
Perry though is a 4:1 underdog here, and I do not see him beating Jake Paul as it derail his scheduled fight with Mike Tyson this November at Netflix.
The underdog we thought Perry was, left everyone disappointed with how he couldn't challenge Jake Paul in the equal fight, which led Jake Paul to deal with him mercilessly
If you had watched the fight, you would have seen how Jake Paul humbled the so-called underdog by a knockout at around 6. Perry is no match for Jake Paul. I don't know who choose him as the better option to fight Jake Paul until November when Mike Tyson would fight Jake Paul.
Mike Perry was just a replacement fighter so that the scheduled bout would take place and that fight last night was just a tune-up fight of Jake Paul before facing Mike Tyson in November if i'm not mistake. This is a very risky fight for Mike Tyson in my opinion because is very old in terms of boxing, i do hope that Team Tyson would realized this and backed out of this promotion before suffering a brutal knockout in the hands of Jake Paul.
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Guys have you got a winning bet on Mayweather versus Gotti fight? Unfortunately for me I did not able to know earlier and was not able to place bet against my neighbor as well as I am not into platforms right now for some reason but yeah since I had missed the fight I saved a few dollars for that if ever I lost the bet with my neighbors. 😅
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Guys have you got a winning bet on Mayweather versus Gotti fight? Unfortunately for me I did not able to know earlier and was not able to place bet against my neighbor as well as I am not into platforms right now for some reason but yeah since I had missed the fight I saved a few dollars for that if ever I lost the bet with my neighbors. 😅
are they still up to it? even if floyd is old, i don't this mafia boy can win a fair fight against floyd. but he isn't quitting though if their match goes more than a trilogy i could really say gotti is in love to floyd.
i don't know why floyd is fighting this guy when there are lots of exhibition fight that he could try to make more millions to pay his Saudi friends. i read he still owe millions to those Saudi poker friends of his. he could fight Pacquiao, i'm sure it will make millions even i its an exhibitions.
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Guys have you got a winning bet on Mayweather versus Gotti fight? Unfortunately for me I did not able to know earlier and was not able to place bet against my neighbor as well as I am not into platforms right now for some reason but yeah since I had missed the fight I saved a few dollars for that if ever I lost the bet with my neighbors. 😅
are they still up to it? even if floyd is old, i don't this mafia boy can win a fair fight against floyd. but he isn't quitting though if their match goes more than a trilogy i could really say gotti is in love to floyd.
i don't know why floyd is fighting this guy when there are lots of exhibition fight that he could try to make more millions to pay his Saudi friends. i read he still owe millions to those Saudi poker friends of his. he could fight Pacquiao, i'm sure it will make millions even i its an exhibitions.
Yeah, i'm also wondering why Mayweather is avoiding Manny Pacquaio even if it is only an exhibition match. Maybe he had a feeling that if he fights Manny it could blemished his no defeat record. But if indeed he owes money to his Saudi friends then i think the lack of money could make him face Manny as this could earn ton of money even if it is only an exhibition match.
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Before we forget, this weekend, we will have Jake Paul vs Mike Perry. We all know that it should be Mike Tyson here, but he has medical issues and so they moved the fight to November.
Nevertheless, Jake Paul decided to take a get busy fight against Mike Perry the face of Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship (BKFC).
Perry though is a 4:1 underdog here, and I do not see him beating Jake Paul as it derail his scheduled fight with Mike Tyson this November at Netflix.
The underdog we thought Perry was, left everyone disappointed with how he couldn't challenge Jake Paul in the equal fight, which led Jake Paul to deal with him mercilessly
If you had watched the fight, you would have seen how Jake Paul humbled the so-called underdog by a knockout at around 6. Perry is no match for Jake Paul. I don't know who choose him as the better option to fight Jake Paul until November when Mike Tyson would fight Jake Paul.
It's just for the show for Jake Paul here, another circus fight and they try to hype the fight even at the weigh-in and after. But still we can't deny that Mike Perry has not prepared for this fight and Jake Paul wanted to show that he is prepared already for Mike Tyson and hopefully it can still make that happen this November. I didn't bet on this fight because we all know that Jake Paul is going to win anyway. And Paul now taunting Mike Tyson and said that he is worried about Mike Tyson in November because obviously he will give Mike Tyson a beating.
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Guys have you got a winning bet on Mayweather versus Gotti fight? Unfortunately for me I did not able to know earlier and was not able to place bet against my neighbor as well as I am not into platforms right now for some reason but yeah since I had missed the fight I saved a few dollars for that if ever I lost the bet with my neighbors. 😅
are they still up to it? even if floyd is old, i don't this mafia boy can win a fair fight against floyd. but he isn't quitting though if their match goes more than a trilogy i could really say gotti is in love to floyd.
i don't know why floyd is fighting this guy when there are lots of exhibition fight that he could try to make more millions to pay his Saudi friends. i read he still owe millions to those Saudi poker friends of his. he could fight Pacquiao, i'm sure it will make millions even i its an exhibitions.
If my memory serves me right, the first fight ended in brawl and so they scheduled a rematch. Not sure when it was though, and probably boxing fans might not aware of it or simply doesn't want to see this fight.
And yeah, we wanted a Pacman vs Floyd rematch even in exhibition fights.
Hopefully Saudi is going to cover for it because it could still be one of the biggest fights.
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There are reports that Canelo Alvarez vs Edgar Berlanga is being finalized this coming September 14.
If this gonna happen then i think the fight with Terrence Crawford will be scrap once again as Canelo is looking to cash-in with a very easy fight with Edgar Berlanga.
Another cherry-picking at its fullest lol.
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There are reports that Canelo Alvarez vs Edgar Berlanga is being finalized this coming September 14.
If this gonna happen then i think the fight with Terrence Crawford will be scrap once again as Canelo is looking to cash-in with a very easy fight with Edgar Berlanga.
Another cherry-picking at its fullest lol.
And with this news, David Benadivez as per report said that he will challenge the winner of the Bivol vs Beterbiev winner as Canelo Alvarez is simply ignoring him for now and will not give him the chance to have a money fight.
As for Canelo fighting Berlanga, I'm not surprised, he has laid down his plans for this year, to fight the two young and upcoming fighter in Munguia which he already beat and now Edgar Berlanga.
Talking about Munguia, he had signed a deal with Top Rank after 6 years with Oscar Dela Hoya's GBP. So I guess they have accomplished it already fighting Alvarez although it is not the result that they wanted.
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There are reports that Canelo Alvarez vs Edgar Berlanga is being finalized this coming September 14.
If this gonna happen then i think the fight with Terrence Crawford will be scrap once again as Canelo is looking to cash-in with a very easy fight with Edgar Berlanga.
Another cherry-picking at its fullest lol.
And with this news, David Benadivez as per report said that he will challenge the winner of the Bivol vs Beterbiev winner as Canelo Alvarez is simply ignoring him for now and will not give him the chance to have a money fight.
As for Canelo fighting Berlanga, I'm not surprised, he has laid down his plans for this year, to fight the two young and upcoming fighter in Munguia which he already beat and now Edgar Berlanga.
Talking about Munguia, he had signed a deal with Top Rank after 6 years with Oscar Dela Hoya's GBP. So I guess they have accomplished it already fighting Alvarez although it is not the result that they wanted.
Maybe it's just me, but I do believed that Canelo is reserving David Benavidez for his last fight. And it could be his biggest fight as he is building the hype and obviously Canelo has learn a lot from his previous fights.
Munguia to Top Rank? I don't think it's a night move for him as Top Rank doesn't have anyone from 168 lbs to offer for him. But I guess, he is done with GBP promotions and so Bob Arum will have to work again bringing Munguia to the masses and the new face of boxing in the higher weight class.
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There are reports that Canelo Alvarez vs Edgar Berlanga is being finalized this coming September 14.
If this gonna happen then i think the fight with Terrence Crawford will be scrap once again as Canelo is looking to cash-in with a very easy fight with Edgar Berlanga.
Another cherry-picking at its fullest lol.
And with this news, David Benadivez as per report said that he will challenge the winner of the Bivol vs Beterbiev winner as Canelo Alvarez is simply ignoring him for now and will not give him the chance to have a money fight.
As for Canelo fighting Berlanga, I'm not surprised, he has laid down his plans for this year, to fight the two young and upcoming fighter in Munguia which he already beat and now Edgar Berlanga.
Talking about Munguia, he had signed a deal with Top Rank after 6 years with Oscar Dela Hoya's GBP. So I guess they have accomplished it already fighting Alvarez although it is not the result that they wanted.
Maybe it's just me, but I do believed that Canelo is reserving David Benavidez for his last fight. And it could be his biggest fight as he is building the hype and obviously Canelo has learn a lot from his previous fights.
Munguia to Top Rank? I don't think it's a night move for him as Top Rank doesn't have anyone from 168 lbs to offer for him. But I guess, he is done with GBP promotions and so Bob Arum will have to work again bringing Munguia to the masses and the new face of boxing in the higher weight class.
If Canelo is planning to David Benavidez then the time is now because he is not getting any younger, the sooner this fight to take place the older he gets so he will be at a disadvantage. But if that is their plan then good luck to Canelo.
Speaking of Benavidez, reports had it that he is positioning himself now to be the mandatory of the winner of the fight between Bivol vs Betervieb.
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There are reports that Canelo Alvarez vs Edgar Berlanga is being finalized this coming September 14.
If this gonna happen then i think the fight with Terrence Crawford will be scrap once again as Canelo is looking to cash-in with a very easy fight with Edgar Berlanga.
Another cherry-picking at its fullest lol.
Crawford is fighting next week against Madrimov. There is still enough time to make Canelo vs. Crawford for the end of the year. Even if it does happen, it will be a really bad look for Canelo because he won’t fight Benavidez who was in his own division but he is making Crawford go up 2 weight classes to fight him.
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There are reports that Canelo Alvarez vs Edgar Berlanga is being finalized this coming September 14.
If this gonna happen then i think the fight with Terrence Crawford will be scrap once again as Canelo is looking to cash-in with a very easy fight with Edgar Berlanga.
Another cherry-picking at its fullest lol.
And with this news, David Benadivez as per report said that he will challenge the winner of the Bivol vs Beterbiev winner as Canelo Alvarez is simply ignoring him for now and will not give him the chance to have a money fight.
As for Canelo fighting Berlanga, I'm not surprised, he has laid down his plans for this year, to fight the two young and upcoming fighter in Munguia which he already beat and now Edgar Berlanga.
Talking about Munguia, he had signed a deal with Top Rank after 6 years with Oscar Dela Hoya's GBP. So I guess they have accomplished it already fighting Alvarez although it is not the result that they wanted.
Maybe it's just me, but I do believed that Canelo is reserving David Benavidez for his last fight. And it could be his biggest fight as he is building the hype and obviously Canelo has learn a lot from his previous fights.
Munguia to Top Rank? I don't think it's a night move for him as Top Rank doesn't have anyone from 168 lbs to offer for him. But I guess, he is done with GBP promotions and so Bob Arum will have to work again bringing Munguia to the masses and the new face of boxing in the higher weight class.
If Canelo is planning to David Benavidez then the time is now because he is not getting any younger, the sooner this fight to take place the older he gets so he will be at a disadvantage. But if that is their plan then good luck to Canelo.
Speaking of Benavidez, reports had it that he is positioning himself now to be the mandatory of the winner of the fight between Bivol vs Betervieb.
But Canelo is asking ridiculous money for a Benavidez fight and I'm only seeing the Saudi's that are willing to give it to him at $150 million. So perhaps yeah, it could be true that if he is offered that big money then it's for retirement.
I doubt that the fight with Crawford is going to happen, at least for this year. He is already scheduled to fight Berlanga this September. So perhaps if Crawford is willing to go 2 weight class and for the money, it could be May date for them.
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There are reports that Canelo Alvarez vs Edgar Berlanga is being finalized this coming September 14.
If this gonna happen then i think the fight with Terrence Crawford will be scrap once again as Canelo is looking to cash-in with a very easy fight with Edgar Berlanga.
Another cherry-picking at its fullest lol.
Crawford is fighting next week against Madrimov. There is still enough time to make Canelo vs. Crawford for the end of the year. Even if it does happen, it will be a really bad look for Canelo because he won’t fight Benavidez who was in his own division but he is making Crawford go up 2 weight classes to fight him.
Yes, Madrimov is a tough customer for Crawford, but we will see if he can knockout a durable fighter in Madrimov in a new weight class and then go up 2 weight classes for Canelo, going to be a superfight and most likely or at least the Saudis are interested on making this fight.
Canelo is fighting Berlanga next this September. Benavidez waiting for the winner of Beterbiev vs Bivol as he will be moving up to 175 lbs. But I still think he can go down to 168 lbs if Canelo will give him that chance.
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Yes, Madrimov is a tough customer for Crawford, but we will see if he can knockout a durable fighter in Madrimov in a new weight class and then go up 2 weight classes for Canelo, going to be a superfight and most likely or at least the Saudis are interested on making this fight.
Speaking of Crawford and Madrimov, it's fight week for them. I looked at the betting sites and there's not much option/market on their fight as of this writing.
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I think i will bet on the over 10.5 as i think this will go the distance. What's your thought mate?
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I'm thinking the opposite for now, it could be under 8.5 rounds for Crawford. Bud is too experienced here and in the face off I see Bud being the bigger guy and I was surprised to see that.
So again my initial analysis says that I might go with Bud under 8.5 to score a stoppage or even by a knockout.
In any case, good luck to all bettors and hopefully it's going to be a great fight here.
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I'm thinking the opposite for now, it could be under 8.5 rounds for Crawford. Bud is too experienced here and in the face off I see Bud being the bigger guy and I was surprised to see that.
So again my initial analysis says that I might go with Bud under 8.5 to score a stoppage or even by a knockout.
In any case, good luck to all bettors and hopefully it's going to be a great fight here.
No, the line is over/under 10.5 and they are very attractive already, at 1.86/1.84 currently at Stake. Crawford by a knockout is 1.69, still good odds but you have to throw a lot of money.
And obviously, Madrimov is a big underdog at 5:1 here. Very hard to bet on that one as we know that Crawford is one of the most skilled boxers that we have right now, he reads his opponent and can adjust during the fight itself. He can even shift to south paw if he wanted and then there's no difference in his power.
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I'm thinking the opposite for now, it could be under 8.5 rounds for Crawford. Bud is too experienced here and in the face off I see Bud being the bigger guy and I was surprised to see that.
So again my initial analysis says that I might go with Bud under 8.5 to score a stoppage or even by a knockout.
In any case, good luck to all bettors and hopefully it's going to be a great fight here.
Then i'm going to go with you mate but i would pick the under 9.50 @2.02. I agree that Terrence Crawford is too experienced and very tough for Madrimov that he could not last the full twelve rounds. Never mind my previous speculation that this will end up in a decision hehe.
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It is interesting to note that in the Crawford vs Madrimov undercard, Morrell, is moving up to 175 lbs and facesRadivoje Kalajdzic. He is another name that we would thought that Canelo might as he is a interim Super Middleweight champion and instead Canelo is going to face Edgar Berlanga, the number 1 rank fighter in WBA. That's why WBA should already strip of Canelo as he refuses to fight the interim champion. At least facing him, we will know who will be single champion. And so in this case, the same with Canelo's WBC belt wherein the interim is David Benavidez. So if there is no Canelo fight for either of this two, it might be good to see them fight at LHW, although there could be options them for sure to go down to 168 lbs if Canelo is willing to fight them.
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Terrence Crawford won via unanimous decision against a very tough opponent in Madrimov. Lost my bet as i'm betting that this fight would not go over 10.5 rounds but the style of Madrimov doesn't fit well on the counter punching style of Crawford and also the move in weight was one of the factors why Crawford struggled.
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Terrence Crawford won via unanimous decision against a very tough opponent in Madrimov. Lost my bet as i'm betting that this fight would not go over 10.5 rounds but the style of Madrimov doesn't fit well on the counter punching style of Crawford and also the move in weight was one of the factors why Crawford struggled.
Yeah, just part of the game against mate, I also lost my bet though and I thought that Crawford will take out Madrimov early. But he was very tough and although in the championship rounds I though that Madrimov will go down, he didn't and was able to hold.
I was watching some live updates and they think that Crawford lost the fight. So for now, I would say that Crawford should stay away from Canelo at 168 lbs. There's no way that he can beat a version of Canelo with this kind of performance at 154 lbs.
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Terrence Crawford won via unanimous decision against a very tough opponent in Madrimov. Lost my bet as i'm betting that this fight would not go over 10.5 rounds but the style of Madrimov doesn't fit well on the counter punching style of Crawford and also the move in weight was one of the factors why Crawford struggled.
Yeah, just part of the game against mate, I also lost my bet though and I thought that Crawford will take out Madrimov early. But he was very tough and although in the championship rounds I though that Madrimov will go down, he didn't and was able to hold.
I was watching some live updates and they think that Crawford lost the fight. So for now, I would say that Crawford should stay away from Canelo at 168 lbs. There's no way that he can beat a version of Canelo with this kind of performance at 154 lbs.
For the sake of money, he might do it, but I would agree with you that he should not go up anymore because I also find him struggling in this one as well.
The fact that there are some people saying that he could've lost that fight is a sign that he's having a hard time on that division. Well, it's his first time to fight at that division and he had a hard time against him. It would be better for him to maybe stay at that division and dominate it as well. Let's forget about him fighting Canelo because even Canelo himself said that he has no interest in fighting him. :)
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Terrence Crawford won via unanimous decision against a very tough opponent in Madrimov. Lost my bet as i'm betting that this fight would not go over 10.5 rounds but the style of Madrimov doesn't fit well on the counter punching style of Crawford and also the move in weight was one of the factors why Crawford struggled.
Yeah, just part of the game against mate, I also lost my bet though and I thought that Crawford will take out Madrimov early. But he was very tough and although in the championship rounds I though that Madrimov will go down, he didn't and was able to hold.
I was watching some live updates and they think that Crawford lost the fight. So for now, I would say that Crawford should stay away from Canelo at 168 lbs. There's no way that he can beat a version of Canelo with this kind of performance at 154 lbs.
For the sake of money, he might do it, but I would agree with you that he should not go up anymore because I also find him struggling in this one as well.
Yes, for the right amount of money, I think he might go up to 168 lbs to fight Canelo, but during his post fight interview, it was a different tune, he didn't directly answer that question but says "we will see". So for me it tells that Crawford is not ready and I think the Saudi's knows that.
The fact that there are some people saying that he could've lost that fight is a sign that he's having a hard time on that division. Well, it's his first time to fight at that division and he had a hard time against him. It would be better for him to maybe stay at that division and dominate it as well. Let's forget about him fighting Canelo because even Canelo himself said that he has no interest in fighting him. :)
You have a point, this is his first time at 154 lbs, he says that it's no different at 147 lbs but we have seen that he had a difficult fight here and he admitted that Israil Madrimov is very durable and he was not able to adjust because of the feint and they Madrimov although this is his 11 fights, have a good fight plan and it almost work. But in the end, I think Crawford edges him 8-4 rounds at least.
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Terrence Crawford won via unanimous decision against a very tough opponent in Madrimov. Lost my bet as i'm betting that this fight would not go over 10.5 rounds but the style of Madrimov doesn't fit well on the counter punching style of Crawford and also the move in weight was one of the factors why Crawford struggled.
Yeah, just part of the game against mate, I also lost my bet though and I thought that Crawford will take out Madrimov early. But he was very tough and although in the championship rounds I though that Madrimov will go down, he didn't and was able to hold.
I was watching some live updates and they think that Crawford lost the fight. So for now, I would say that Crawford should stay away from Canelo at 168 lbs. There's no way that he can beat a version of Canelo with this kind of performance at 154 lbs.
For the sake of money, he might do it, but I would agree with you that he should not go up anymore because I also find him struggling in this one as well.
The fact that there are some people saying that he could've lost that fight is a sign that he's having a hard time on that division. Well, it's his first time to fight at that division and he had a hard time against him. It would be better for him to maybe stay at that division and dominate it as well. Let's forget about him fighting Canelo because even Canelo himself said that he has no interest in fighting him. :)
he wouldn't get another belt if he stays in his division. the risk was worth while i think since he earned it but this time defending it might get him much trouble if there are bigger guys coming after the title while he looks terrible in this weight class.
or was it really his age that he looks like he is in decline. its smart for a boxer to retire if they feel like they might not be as good as they once were. buy the money to earn is too lucrative. but is crawford interested to fight canelo?
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he wouldn't get another belt if he stays in his division. the risk was worth while i think since he earned it but this time defending it might get him much trouble if there are bigger guys coming after the title while he looks terrible in this weight class.
or was it really his age that he looks like he is in decline. its smart for a boxer to retire if they feel like they might not be as good as they once were. buy the money to earn is too lucrative. but is crawford interested to fight canelo?
It is Terrence Crawford who has been calling out Canelo Alvarez to fight him as far as i remember but it is Canelo that is hesitant to fight for the reason that i don't know.
Maybe father time has already caught up Terrence Crawford as 37 years old in boxing is old and i think he should forgot the Canelo fight and focus on this 154-lbs division for now.
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he wouldn't get another belt if he stays in his division. the risk was worth while i think since he earned it but this time defending it might get him much trouble if there are bigger guys coming after the title while he looks terrible in this weight class.
or was it really his age that he looks like he is in decline. its smart for a boxer to retire if they feel like they might not be as good as they once were. buy the money to earn is too lucrative. but is crawford interested to fight canelo?
It is Terrence Crawford who has been calling out Canelo Alvarez to fight him as far as i remember but it is Canelo that is hesitant to fight for the reason that i don't know.
Maybe father time has already caught up Terrence Crawford as 37 years old in boxing is old and i think he should forgot the Canelo fight and focus on this 154-lbs division for now.
Yeah, it is Crawford that is calling Canelo Alvarez and it's obvious that he is going after the big money fight as Canelo is still the cash cow in boxing. And this is what Canelo says about it,
“So, he’s got that in the back of his head. ‘This guy [Crawford talking in the third person], for one, he’s tough. For two, he’s a boxer. He moves, he can punch, he can do it all. I can’t slip up and lose to this little guy. Then what will my fans think of me? What will my Mexican fans think of me?'” said Crawford about Canelo.
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/08/crawford-bitter-after-losing-canelo-fight-opportunity/)
So physically he knows that Crawford is small and we can argue that he fought Charlo who is also a career 154 lbs. But if we look at the argument of Canelo, yeah, Charlo is built bigger, has good bone density and compare to Crawford who struggled fighting at 154 lbs.
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he wouldn't get another belt if he stays in his division. the risk was worth while i think since he earned it but this time defending it might get him much trouble if there are bigger guys coming after the title while he looks terrible in this weight class.
or was it really his age that he looks like he is in decline. its smart for a boxer to retire if they feel like they might not be as good as they once were. buy the money to earn is too lucrative. but is crawford interested to fight canelo?
It is Terrence Crawford who has been calling out Canelo Alvarez to fight him as far as i remember but it is Canelo that is hesitant to fight for the reason that i don't know.
Maybe father time has already caught up Terrence Crawford as 37 years old in boxing is old and i think he should forgot the Canelo fight and focus on this 154-lbs division for now.
Yeah, it is Crawford that is calling Canelo Alvarez and it's obvious that he is going after the big money fight as Canelo is still the cash cow in boxing. And this is what Canelo says about it,
“So, he’s got that in the back of his head. ‘This guy [Crawford talking in the third person], for one, he’s tough. For two, he’s a boxer. He moves, he can punch, he can do it all. I can’t slip up and lose to this little guy. Then what will my fans think of me? What will my Mexican fans think of me?'” said Crawford about Canelo.
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/08/crawford-bitter-after-losing-canelo-fight-opportunity/)
So physically he knows that Crawford is small and we can argue that he fought Charlo who is also a career 154 lbs. But if we look at the argument of Canelo, yeah, Charlo is built bigger, has good bone density and compare to Crawford who struggled fighting at 154 lbs.
Hahaha, now Canelo is worried about on what the fans have to say if he fight Crawford while he ignores the call of the fans for him to fight David Benavidez and instead fight this less popular and inexperienced Edgar Berlanga. Crawford is after the money and he could get what he want if he fight Vergil Ortiz who defeated Serhii Bohachuk in a majority decision despite suffering two knockdowns.
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It is interesting to note that in the Crawford vs Madrimov undercard, Morrell, is moving up to 175 lbs and facesRadivoje Kalajdzic. He is another name that we would thought that Canelo might as he is a interim Super Middleweight champion and instead Canelo is going to face Edgar Berlanga, the number 1 rank fighter in WBA. That's why WBA should already strip of Canelo as he refuses to fight the interim champion. At least facing him, we will know who will be single champion. And so in this case, the same with Canelo's WBC belt wherein the interim is David Benavidez. So if there is no Canelo fight for either of this two, it might be good to see them fight at LHW, although there could be options them for sure to go down to 168 lbs if Canelo is willing to fight them.
I think it is strange that Canelo is avoiding fights with top contenders like Morrell and Benavidez. Instead he is choosing to fight others like Berlanga. This makes me wonder if Canelo really wants to be best champion.
If he keeps avoiding top fighters WBA and WBC should take away his titles. It would be great to see Morrell and Benavidez fight each other or move up to new weight class which could lead to some exciting matches. Fans want to see best fighters compete against each other and it is disappointing that Canelo is not doing that.
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I think it is strange that Canelo is avoiding fights with top contenders like Morrell and Benavidez. Instead he is choosing to fight others like Berlanga. This makes me wonder if Canelo really wants to be best champion.
If he keeps avoiding top fighters WBA and WBC should take away his titles. It would be great to see Morrell and Benavidez fight each other or move up to new weight class which could lead to some exciting matches. Fans want to see best fighters compete against each other and it is disappointing that Canelo is not doing that.
Those sanctioning bodies are on Canelo's side because whether we like it or not, Canelo still a cash cow on their eyes lol. Saudi Arabia's boxing power broker Turki Alalshikh is offering Canelo to fight Crawford which for me an easy task for him to accomplish since the latter is already 36 years old and have a smaller frame compared to him. Not a fight fans wanted but at least we could see what Crawford could offer in front of Canelo.
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I think it is strange that Canelo is avoiding fights with top contenders like Morrell and Benavidez. Instead he is choosing to fight others like Berlanga. This makes me wonder if Canelo really wants to be best champion.
If he keeps avoiding top fighters WBA and WBC should take away his titles. It would be great to see Morrell and Benavidez fight each other or move up to new weight class which could lead to some exciting matches. Fans want to see best fighters compete against each other and it is disappointing that Canelo is not doing that.
Those sanctioning bodies are on Canelo's side because whether we like it or not, Canelo still a cash cow on their eyes lol. Saudi Arabia's boxing power broker Turki Alalshikh is offering Canelo to fight Crawford which for me an easy task for him to accomplish since the latter is already 36 years old and have a smaller frame compared to him. Not a fight fans wanted but at least we could see what Crawford could offer in front of Canelo.
No Turki Alalshikh doesn't want to set up the fight between Canelo and Crawford. He already said it in a tweet,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/08/12/5qAT5.png)
https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1820700851528196362
And now there are a on-going social media fued between Turki and Canelo. Alvarez said if this fight is going to happen, he wanted it on his own terms. Damn, Canelo has the balls to say this to the power broker. So I guess he will be "black listed" by Turki or not be in Riyadh card just like Tank Davis.
You can see what Turki said here and he is telling what it is as what we see,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/08/12/5qSq2.png)
https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1821081354437849283
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I think it is strange that Canelo is avoiding fights with top contenders like Morrell and Benavidez. Instead he is choosing to fight others like Berlanga. This makes me wonder if Canelo really wants to be best champion.
If he keeps avoiding top fighters WBA and WBC should take away his titles. It would be great to see Morrell and Benavidez fight each other or move up to new weight class which could lead to some exciting matches. Fans want to see best fighters compete against each other and it is disappointing that Canelo is not doing that.
Those sanctioning bodies are on Canelo's side because whether we like it or not, Canelo still a cash cow on their eyes lol. Saudi Arabia's boxing power broker Turki Alalshikh is offering Canelo to fight Crawford which for me an easy task for him to accomplish since the latter is already 36 years old and have a smaller frame compared to him. Not a fight fans wanted but at least we could see what Crawford could offer in front of Canelo.
I don't think that we are going to see a Crawford vs Canelo fight in the future as per Turki Alalshikh. For sure he might have seen that Crawford will be at a big disadvantage at 168 lbs.
And that post of Turki Alalshikh and then what Canelo said after that. Canelo though can say that against Turki Alalshikh because he is the cash cow and he had amassed big money fights. But what Turki Alalshikh is saying is true, we all know that after Canelo lost to Bivol, he chooses easy and less risk fights but still get the money that he wanted.
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I think it is strange that Canelo is avoiding fights with top contenders like Morrell and Benavidez. Instead he is choosing to fight others like Berlanga. This makes me wonder if Canelo really wants to be best champion.
If he keeps avoiding top fighters WBA and WBC should take away his titles. It would be great to see Morrell and Benavidez fight each other or move up to new weight class which could lead to some exciting matches. Fans want to see best fighters compete against each other and it is disappointing that Canelo is not doing that.
Those sanctioning bodies are on Canelo's side because whether we like it or not, Canelo still a cash cow on their eyes lol. Saudi Arabia's boxing power broker Turki Alalshikh is offering Canelo to fight Crawford which for me an easy task for him to accomplish since the latter is already 36 years old and have a smaller frame compared to him. Not a fight fans wanted but at least we could see what Crawford could offer in front of Canelo.
I don't think that we are going to see a Crawford vs Canelo fight in the future as per Turki Alalshikh. For sure he might have seen that Crawford will be at a big disadvantage at 168 lbs.
And that post of Turki Alalshikh and then what Canelo said after that. Canelo though can say that against Turki Alalshikh because he is the cash cow and he had amassed big money fights. But what Turki Alalshikh is saying is true, we all know that after Canelo lost to Bivol, he chooses easy and less risk fights but still get the money that he wanted.
Thanks for the info mate, i really thought that the offer of his excellency Turki Alalshikh is still on. Yeah, i remember Canelo saying that it would take around $200-300 million for him to fight in Saudi Arabia and maybe that statement hurt the ego of Turki Alalshikh.
Canelo is on a downhill of his career that is why he chooses easy fight but the money is almost the same.
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Anyone see this?
https://x.com/dantheboxingman/status/1826704567666721042
We all know that Brian Norman has been put as the WBO welterweight champion as they have stripped Bud Crawford since Bud has move up in weight and now their interim champion.
And with that, it leaves one of the champion in Boots Ennis to fight Brian Norman for unification. But it seems that Boots Ennis or at least his father doesn't want to fight Brian Norman at this point. And probably will fight his mandatory face before fighting any of the champion at 147 lbs. Does it make sense for Boots to duck Brian Norman?
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Anyone see this?
https://x.com/dantheboxingman/status/1826704567666721042
We all know that Brian Norman has been put as the WBO welterweight champion as they have stripped Bud Crawford since Bud has move up in weight and now their interim champion.
And with that, it leaves one of the champion in Boots Ennis to fight Brian Norman for unification. But it seems that Boots Ennis or at least his father doesn't want to fight Brian Norman at this point. And probably will fight his mandatory face before fighting any of the champion at 147 lbs. Does it make sense for Boots to duck Brian Norman?
Maybe Team Ennis want to maximize the moment of him being a champion hehe. I mean, if he go directly to a unification fight and lost then that's it for him while if he fought a mandatory as that fight is very winnable then after fight Brian Norman for a unification fight, whatever happens at least he has been a champion for a longer time hehe.
Kidding aside, maybe there is an issue on the money on why the older Ennis refuses to fight Norman.
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Anyone see this?
https://x.com/dantheboxingman/status/1826704567666721042
We all know that Brian Norman has been put as the WBO welterweight champion as they have stripped Bud Crawford since Bud has move up in weight and now their interim champion.
And with that, it leaves one of the champion in Boots Ennis to fight Brian Norman for unification. But it seems that Boots Ennis or at least his father doesn't want to fight Brian Norman at this point. And probably will fight his mandatory face before fighting any of the champion at 147 lbs. Does it make sense for Boots to duck Brian Norman?
Maybe Team Ennis want to maximize the moment of him being a champion hehe. I mean, if he go directly to a unification fight and lost then that's it for him while if he fought a mandatory as that fight is very winnable then after fight Brian Norman for a unification fight, whatever happens at least he has been a champion for a longer time hehe.
Kidding aside, maybe there is an issue on the money on why the older Ennis refuses to fight Norman.
No mate, that is a good speculation I believed. Yeah, perhaps Ennis just want his stock to get higher first before looking to fight Brian Norman. But I think for Norman though, he is very happy to be relegated to a full champion and so he wants all the smoke at this division, including a unification fight for Ennis.
And Ennis has been saying that he is taking the division, so definitely he will be the target by Brian Norman. However, I would like other division as well to follow what the WBO did here, stripped of Bud Crawford because he doesn't want to fight the mandatory or interim champion. But so far, only the WBO has the balls to do it.
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^^ It's all about the money though, that's why Ennis or his father doesn't want Norman as this time. He could be a threat or what, but we all know that each boxer is trying to built up their career and so they might pick an easy fight first. Although if they are going to be upset, then all this money will be gone.
Just like the build up on AJ vs Wilder way back, even before the pandemic. But when AJ was upset by Andy Ruiz and then Wilder losing to Fury, then the fight didn't work as plan for them to have a mega fight and then now Wilder is done already.
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However, I would like other division as well to follow what the WBO did here, stripped of Bud Crawford because he doesn't want to fight the mandatory or interim champion. But so far, only the WBO has the balls to do it.
Yeah, that would be nice. Nobody should hold the division because the defending champ is picky or wants more benefit from the mandatory fight. Unfortunately, most fight organizers are willing to bend their own rules for the sake of more ticket sales and sponsorships.
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However, I would like other division as well to follow what the WBO did here, stripped of Bud Crawford because he doesn't want to fight the mandatory or interim champion. But so far, only the WBO has the balls to do it.
Yeah, that would be nice. Nobody should hold the division because the defending champ is picky or wants more benefit from the mandatory fight. Unfortunately, most fight organizers are willing to bend their own rules for the sake of more ticket sales and sponsorships.
Yes, no one should held a belt hostage for a long time, but as you have said, organizations are corrupt like WBC and they don't want to stripped their champions right away, like Canelo and Crawford.
So we might see them having interim champions at best and wait if Crawford will go down to 147 lbs to fight his mandatories or not or fight the interim champion.
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In another update:
Matchroom are continuing their efforts to make a unification fight between Jaron “Boots” Ennis and Brian Norman Jr.
https://www.boxingscene.com/eddie-hearn-still-talking-make-boots-ennis-brian-norman-jr--185616
So for now, it's really hard on who to believed, Eddie Hearn of Matchroom says that they are pursuing a unification fight. On the other hand Norman says that Ennis doesn't want to fight him.
And that they have sent Top Rank, Norman's manager a contract, so it means there are offers already not once but twice. So let's see, they have a date of November so we will have to wait if they can sit down and talk and agree to the details of the fight.
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And speaking of WBO, they are now ordering the fight between Fundora and Crawford,
The World Boxing Organization on Wednesday ordered World Boxing Association belt holder Crawford (41-0, 31 KOs) to meet Fundora (21-1-1, 13 KOs), declaring that the sides have 30 days to strike an agreement or the bout will be sent to purse bid.
https://www.boxingscene.com/wbo-orders-terence-crawford-face-sebastian-fundora--185627
So most likely in the next month, we will see if there will be an agreement between the two sides or both promoters of this fighters will have to go to purse bid and so with other promotions as well.
However, regardless of who is going to win the bid, still going to be a great fight and boxing fans are waiting for this kind of unification or at least interim (Crawford) vs regular champion (Fundora).
I think Crawford will be the slight favorite in this fight and it could happen as early as next year or maybe December end of this year.
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^^ I will very much going to favor Crawford in this fight. And I think Crawford like this kind of match up, we have seen him though struggles at 154 lbs but he survived the baptism of fire against Madrimov, so I think he will be find in this division. But he could be running out of time to unified a 3rd division. But the odds will not be huge, probably Crawford by 1.6x and then Fundora by 2.2x. Let's wait, it could be at the end of the year and it could have been the happenings of a fight of the year and they go back and forth but in the end, the hands of Crawford is going to be raised.
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^^ I will very much going to favor Crawford in this fight. And I think Crawford like this kind of match up, we have seen him though struggles at 154 lbs but he survived the baptism of fire against Madrimov, so I think he will be find in this division. But he could be running out of time to unified a 3rd division. But the odds will not be huge, probably Crawford by 1.6x and then Fundora by 2.2x. Let's wait, it could be at the end of the year and it could have been the happenings of a fight of the year and they go back and forth but in the end, the hands of Crawford is going to be raised.
Right, I think Crawford is still going to be the favorite in any fight of him, except maybe against Canelo but it's not going to happen after his not so good performance at 154 lbs.
But still though, we should give him credit and also the WBO for forcing this fight and I think neither boxer are going to say no for this mega-fight. Specially for Fundora, he had a break through year when he beat Tszyu and now maybe getting another career payday as he is the champion and Crawford the interim.
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Berlanga said in this interview that he might not stay at 168 lbs for good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvsokshsts8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvsokshsts8)
Although his plan is to unify all the belts at 168 lbs, and then it will only happen if he beats this version of Canelo Alvarez. And then rematch him (so there is rematch clause after all). But after that, he will go on the last belt as Canelo was stripped of. So let's see he seems to be very relaxed and positive that he will win against Canelo.
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Berlanga said in this interview that he might not stay at 168 lbs for good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvsokshsts8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvsokshsts8)
Although his plan is to unify all the belts at 168 lbs, and then it will only happen if he beats this version of Canelo Alvarez. And then rematch him (so there is rematch clause after all). But after that, he will go on the last belt as Canelo was stripped of. So let's see he seems to be very relaxed and positive that he will win against Canelo.
He seems to be overlooking Canelo here, it is not a sign of a good boxer, yeah, he could be taking about his plans, but he still a lot of works cut for him as he will be facing Alvarez in the next week or so.
As for moving in 175 lbs, still another dangerous weight class for him, there are a lot of big guys out there and then we have a unified champion fight between Bivol vs Beterbiev. Morrell has plans to move up as well and so is David Benavidez who already fought at LHW. So many good names to face at 175 lbs and so it's going to be messy for Berlanga. Might as well stay as 168 lbs for some time face Munguia and continue the PR vs Mexico rivalry.
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He seems to be overlooking Canelo here, it is not a sign of a good boxer, yeah, he could be taking about his plans, but he still a lot of works cut for him as he will be facing Alvarez in the next week or so.
As for moving in 175 lbs, still another dangerous weight class for him, there are a lot of big guys out there and then we have a unified champion fight between Bivol vs Beterbiev. Morrell has plans to move up as well and so is David Benavidez who already fought at LHW. So many good names to face at 175 lbs and so it's going to be messy for Berlanga. Might as well stay as 168 lbs for some time face Munguia and continue the PR vs Mexico rivalry.
I think Berlanga is making mistake by not taking Canelo seriously. He has hard fight against Alvarez coming up and should focus on that. Moving up to 175 pounds is also bad idea. There are many strong boxers in that weight class like yiu mentioned Bivol.. Beterbiev.. Morrell.. and Benavidez. It is a tough division and Berlanga might struggle.
It would be better for Berlanga to stay at 168 pounds and fight Munguia. This would let him keep fighting in rivalry between Puerto Rico and Mexico and gain more experience before moving up in weight. Berlanga should focus on what is happening now and not think too far ahead. He still has a lot to prove in boxing.
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He seems to be overlooking Canelo here, it is not a sign of a good boxer, yeah, he could be taking about his plans, but he still a lot of works cut for him as he will be facing Alvarez in the next week or so.
As for moving in 175 lbs, still another dangerous weight class for him, there are a lot of big guys out there and then we have a unified champion fight between Bivol vs Beterbiev. Morrell has plans to move up as well and so is David Benavidez who already fought at LHW. So many good names to face at 175 lbs and so it's going to be messy for Berlanga. Might as well stay as 168 lbs for some time face Munguia and continue the PR vs Mexico rivalry.
I think Berlanga is making mistake by not taking Canelo seriously. He has hard fight against Alvarez coming up and should focus on that. Moving up to 175 pounds is also bad idea. There are many strong boxers in that weight class like yiu mentioned Bivol.. Beterbiev.. Morrell.. and Benavidez. It is a tough division and Berlanga might struggle.
He might not be taking Canelo lightly, but he is very young and probably full of confidence that he can beat Canelo. It's a good idea for him to move up to LHW if his body can't fight anymore to SM. As per the structure of his body, he is a big guy, bone structure is big and so he can still squeeze that additional 7 lbs without any issues on his power and stamina I reckon.
It would be better for Berlanga to stay at 168 pounds and fight Munguia. This would let him keep fighting in rivalry between Puerto Rico and Mexico and gain more experience before moving up in weight. Berlanga should focus on what is happening now and not think too far ahead. He still has a lot to prove in boxing.
However, I will agree with you in this one, Berlanga vs Munguia is a great fight. This two has been rivals and there have been talks of them fighting. So we will see, both of them have and will fight Canelo and so they will have that experience under their belt and then we will see the rivalry between Mexico and Puerto Rico alive.
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He seems to be overlooking Canelo here, it is not a sign of a good boxer, yeah, he could be taking about his plans, but he still a lot of works cut for him as he will be facing Alvarez in the next week or so.
As for moving in 175 lbs, still another dangerous weight class for him, there are a lot of big guys out there and then we have a unified champion fight between Bivol vs Beterbiev. Morrell has plans to move up as well and so is David Benavidez who already fought at LHW. So many good names to face at 175 lbs and so it's going to be messy for Berlanga. Might as well stay as 168 lbs for some time face Munguia and continue the PR vs Mexico rivalry.
I think Berlanga is making mistake by not taking Canelo seriously. He has hard fight against Alvarez coming up and should focus on that. Moving up to 175 pounds is also bad idea. There are many strong boxers in that weight class like yiu mentioned Bivol.. Beterbiev.. Morrell.. and Benavidez. It is a tough division and Berlanga might struggle.
It would be better for Berlanga to stay at 168 pounds and fight Munguia. This would let him keep fighting in rivalry between Puerto Rico and Mexico and gain more experience before moving up in weight. Berlanga should focus on what is happening now and not think too far ahead. He still has a lot to prove in boxing.
Yeah, you really don't understand this kind of fighters, maybe they are just brandish and very positive, however, he is facing Canelo. Although we might have seen Canelo losing some steps, but still he had a couple of wins so it's hard to beat him unless your name is Bivol.
Probably Berlanga has seen the blue print already on how to bet Canelo in his own game. And this is what makes him very confident in this interview that is going to win and then move up in 175 lbs where there are a lot of monster fighters.
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Who else are in your listin the card to bet on?
1 Canelo
2 Mungia
Who else?
I'm trying to add some more for a parlay with jist a few bucks left in my account.
Winwood?
Marley?
The two at least does have the odds better than 1.10 which is worth consolidating.
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Who else are in your listin the card to bet on?
1 Canelo
2 Mungia
Who else?
I'm trying to add some more for a parlay with jist a few bucks left in my account.
Winwood?
Marley?
The two at least does have the odds better than 1.10 which is worth consolidating.
How about Joshua vs Dubois? Fight will be on the 22th of this month.
Joshua is the huge favorite @1.22. Perhaps that is good enough odds to add Canelo + Munguia + Joshua.
I try to sum it up right now at Stake and the results is 1.44. As Canelo is 1.04, and then Munguia at 1.14. So it's up to you whether you will go with that odds or add another one to make the odds higher.
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Who else are in your listin the card to bet on?
1 Canelo
2 Mungia
Who else?
I'm trying to add some more for a parlay with jist a few bucks left in my account.
Winwood?
Marley?
The two at least does have the odds better than 1.10 which is worth consolidating.
How about Joshua vs Dubois? Fight will be on the 22th of this month.
Joshua is the huge favorite @1.22. Perhaps that is good enough odds to add Canelo + Munguia + Joshua.
I try to sum it up right now at Stake and the results is 1.44. As Canelo is 1.04, and then Munguia at 1.14. So it's up to you whether you will go with that odds or add another one to make the odds higher.
That is a difficult fight for AJ in my opinion, Dubois is young and raw, and we don't know where he can bring that talent though. We might see Andy Ruiz vs AJ first fight again here.
And the odds if that is correct is too low for me to parlay, unless you are willing to throws thousands of dollars in that multi-bet. Best of luck though to your parlay, Canelo and then Munguia might be good enough for me but not AJ. But it is still your decision mate, so best of luck at this fight is going to be this weekend. Or if you want to get one, why not on the undercard of Canelo vs Berlanga.
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Probably Berlanga has seen the blue print already on how to bet Canelo in his own game. And this is what makes him very confident in this interview that is going to win and then move up in 175 lbs where there are a lot of monster fighters.
I don't know what he has seen but i doubt he could execute his game plan once he will get hit with those bombs that Canelo will threw to him. He is inexperience and that factor would cost him this fight. The betting here is if this fight would go over or under 8.5 rounds which i'm more incline on betting on the over @1.86.
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Probably Berlanga has seen the blue print already on how to bet Canelo in his own game. And this is what makes him very confident in this interview that is going to win and then move up in 175 lbs where there are a lot of monster fighters.
I don't know what he has seen but i doubt he could execute his game plan once he will get hit with those bombs that Canelo will threw to him. He is inexperience and that factor would cost him this fight. The betting here is if this fight would go over or under 8.5 rounds which i'm more incline on betting on the over @1.86.
I might go over 8.5 rounds, this fight might end up similar to Canelo vs Munguia. We might see Berlanga trying to be tough in the first 6 rounds and then try to survived after that.
So that over could be good though, Berlanga has been drop before, and with his inexperience as he might try to go toe to toe and if he believes that he has similar style of Bivol that can distract Canelo with volume, it might be a very difficult fight for him against the current Canelo, that can still fight and pull the trigger.
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Probably Berlanga has seen the blue print already on how to bet Canelo in his own game. And this is what makes him very confident in this interview that is going to win and then move up in 175 lbs where there are a lot of monster fighters.
I don't know what he has seen but i doubt he could execute his game plan once he will get hit with those bombs that Canelo will threw to him. He is inexperience and that factor would cost him this fight. The betting here is if this fight would go over or under 8.5 rounds which i'm more incline on betting on the over @1.86.
I will tail you on this one mate, over 8.5 is a good bet in my opinion. I think Berlanga will try to hold as long as he can against Canelo and it might go over the distance for full 12 rounds if he is lucky.
His youth might carry it for him in this fight, but I don't see it as a big factor against a very experience Canelo. And that's why Canelo loves to fight this young guys because he wanted to see and test himself if he still has it. A good barometer on how good Canelo is still up to this day.
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Probably Berlanga has seen the blue print already on how to bet Canelo in his own game. And this is what makes him very confident in this interview that is going to win and then move up in 175 lbs where there are a lot of monster fighters.
I don't know what he has seen but i doubt he could execute his game plan once he will get hit with those bombs that Canelo will threw to him. He is inexperience and that factor would cost him this fight. The betting here is if this fight would go over or under 8.5 rounds which i'm more incline on betting on the over @1.86.
I will tail you on this one mate, over 8.5 is a good bet in my opinion. I think Berlanga will try to hold as long as he can against Canelo and it might go over the distance for full 12 rounds if he is lucky.
His youth might carry it for him in this fight, but I don't see it as a big factor against a very experience Canelo. And that's why Canelo loves to fight this young guys because he wanted to see and test himself if he still has it. A good barometer on how good Canelo is still up to this day.
Canelo's last KO win was on the year 2021 against Caleb Plant and as Canelo gets older, the harder for him to knockout his opponents so that over 8.5 is a very good bet but i will be throwing some money on Canelo via decision @3.75, very risky but attractive odds IMO.
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Probably Berlanga has seen the blue print already on how to bet Canelo in his own game. And this is what makes him very confident in this interview that is going to win and then move up in 175 lbs where there are a lot of monster fighters.
I don't know what he has seen but i doubt he could execute his game plan once he will get hit with those bombs that Canelo will threw to him. He is inexperience and that factor would cost him this fight. The betting here is if this fight would go over or under 8.5 rounds which i'm more incline on betting on the over @1.86.
I mean he and his team could have seen what Bivol does to Canelo and how they beat Canelo that time. And so they could also have plan a similar strategy since he is bigger than Canelo and again very young.
But Berlanga might not be able to stay with that kind of volume punching though. He could get tired chasing Canelo in the ring. While Bivol is really trained very hard at 100% and they know what they are going to do. And he had a lot of experience plus Canelo is going up in his weight class. But let's see, it could be over 8.5 rounds or Canelo winning by decision.
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Exactly one month to go to the Beterbiev Vs Bivol fight, in my opinion. This is the biggest boxing fight this year, ex aequo with the Fury Vs Usyk bout, but I'm not seeing much hype around it, or maybe I'm just not getting it in my feed.
Not much changes in terms of odds, maybe except Bivol becoming even more of a favourite.
As reflected in the odds below, there seems to be a consensus in opinion that if Betrbiev is to win, it will be by a KO, and if Bivol will get his hand raised, he'll likely to win by decision.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/13/B5f5c.png)
I could imagine Artur winning by decision, e.g. he could score a few knockdowns during the fight and get the scorecards in his favour. So betting on Beterbiev winning by decision is looking fairly attractive.
Thoughts?
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Exactly one month to go to the Beterbiev Vs Bivol fight, in my opinion. This is the biggest boxing fight this year, ex aequo with the Fury Vs Usyk bout, but I'm not seeing much hype around it, or maybe I'm just not getting it in my feed.
Not much changes in terms of odds, maybe except Bivol becoming even more of a favourite.
As reflected in the odds below, there seems to be a consensus in opinion that if Betrbiev is to win, it will be by a KO, and if Bivol will get his hand raised, he'll likely to win by decision.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/13/B5f5c.png)
I could imagine Artur winning by decision, e.g. he could score a few knockdowns during the fight and get the scorecards in his favour. So betting on Beterbiev winning by decision is looking fairly attractive.
Thoughts?
Even if they point Bivol as the slight favorite, it's hard to imagine how the fight will go through, I mean Bivol could have the advantage in terms of volume punching, as he is very much active in every round and will keep on touching you with his jabs and power punches.
On the other hand, Beterbiev doesn't throw that much or just average puncher, but his punch has very much had bad intention, if it lands solidly, you either goes down and will not get up, or feel the power and then just trying to survived the fight.
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For the Danny Garcia vs Erislandy Lara weigh-in,
Here is the weigh-in for this fight. Danny Garcia making his debut fight.
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/PgUiysoFRjA/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgUiysoFRjA)
Danny Garcia - 156 1/4 lbs
Erislandy Lara - 156 3/4 lbs
Both weight below the 160 lbs limit, but for sure this two are going to rehydrate and be over 160 lbs fight night. I haven't bet on this one yet, both are way past their prime but still a good fight to watch as I have said, just for the nostalgia.
And it seems that boxing fans here see Danny Garcia winning this fight by decision.
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^^ I will go with the underdog here, Danny "Swift" Garcia, I think he has more staying power and even though he is not that active, Garcia still looks fresh in the weigh in and a lot of room to carry more weigh during the fight to give him more power in his left.
While Lara really looks old at 41 years old and if Danny can drag this fight the full 12 rounds, he could outpoint Lara in the scorecard. And he should not let Lara dictate and control the fight, he should go and try to overpower him with his left hook.
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And Jaime Munguia is back at the win column, win a knockout win against Erik Bazinyan. And as expected, in the beginning, both are trying to test each other's distance, but Munguia is the more accurate and target Bazinyan body.
It really soften him up in the later rounds as he has no more gas tank while Munguia continue to press on, until he caught Erik. Take note that Munguia's trainer is the former champion, Erik Morales.
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And Jaime Munguia is back at the win column, win a knockout win against Erik Bazinyan. And as expected, in the beginning, both are trying to test each other's distance, but Munguia is the more accurate and target Bazinyan body.
It really soften him up in the later rounds as he has no more gas tank while Munguia continue to press on, until he caught Erik. Take note that Munguia's trainer is the former champion, Erik Morales.
It's expected that Munguia will win against Bazinyan, just a matter of what rounds he will win. But give credit to Bazinyan as well, as he also give Munguia a good fight specially his counter in which Munguia was not comfortable and there are rounds that Bazinyan won to be honest.
But I guess Munguia is too good for Bazinyan, and with his new coach and trainer and a new promoter, it's just about time for Munguia to be in the discussion again as the new face of boxing.
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Damn, Dubois absolutely destroyed AJ last night at Wembley, in front of almost 100k fans, and retained his IBF belt.
Joshua got knocked down in round one and continued to get the beatings until the referee stopped it in round 5.
Honestly, did anyone expect the fight to go that way? AJ was a massive favourite. Media are already speculating on whether AJ has any future or if this is it for him.
Any thoughts on what's next for both of them?
Here are some 3 minutes fight highlights for those who haven't seen it:
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Damn, I missed this fight, I was literally caught sleeping, Lol, as I forget to bet on this one as I was looking for Dubois to win by knockout. Another missed opportunity, :(
In any case, it's forthcoming, leading up to the fight, you can see the Dubois is no pushover and will not be bullied by AJ in the pre-fight. And it translate in the fight itself as Dubois goes for head hunting early.
So congrats to those who bet on Dubois to win by ML as he was a huge favorite and by knockout as well.
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^ I didn't even know AJ had an upcoming fight ;D Anyway, his loss to Dubois is almost similar to his loss to Ruiz. He sensed blood after a good punch and went for a finish but he ended up the one being finished instead. He'll most likely get an instant rematch after this but with a lower payday.
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^ I didn't even know AJ had an upcoming fight ;D Anyway, his loss to Dubois is almost similar to his loss to Ruiz. He sensed blood after a good punch and went for a finish but he ended up the one being finished instead. He'll most likely get an instant rematch after this but with a lower payday.
Yes, I think everyone will agree that it's a very similar loss to Andy Ruiz. And as AJ's chin is broken already and he has been exposed to have a China chin, Dubois just target it in the fight and it's just a matter of time before he time AJ's chin with a big punch and that's what happen in round 5.
Yeah, that's what I heard as well that there will be a rematch, so let's see if AJ can adjust. Others have been saying that it's time for AJ to quit, as either Usyk or Fury will end his career if he wanted to face the winner of that fight.
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^ I didn't even know AJ had an upcoming fight ;D Anyway, his loss to Dubois is almost similar to his loss to Ruiz. He sensed blood after a good punch and went for a finish but he ended up the one being finished instead. He'll most likely get an instant rematch after this but with a lower payday.
A rampaging Dubois floored Joshua three times before sending him tumbling to the mat for a third time in the fifth round, when he was ruled out to complete an incredible defeat at Wembley Stadium. When comparing Joshua's performance to the previous world champion's stoppage loss against Andy Ruiz Jr. in New York in 2019, Sky Sports analyst Nelson criticized Joshua's strategies.
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^ I didn't even know AJ had an upcoming fight ;D Anyway, his loss to Dubois is almost similar to his loss to Ruiz. He sensed blood after a good punch and went for a finish but he ended up the one being finished instead. He'll most likely get an instant rematch after this but with a lower payday.
we don't have a particular thread here but the thread in BTT started by JollyGood has a date along with it. its hard to miss when you see it. it has a poll where AJ is the crowd's favorite. well they are in for a surprise to see AJ struggle to get up even in the first hit to his jaw.
i saw the thread yesterday but i didn't remember to bet and i'm glad i didn't because i'm one of those who also expect AJ to win. there's just a lot of things that could make a boxing fan favor AJ and he is good looking ;D
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Damn, Dubois absolutely destroyed AJ last night at Wembley, in front of almost 100k fans, and retained his IBF belt.
Joshua got knocked down in round one and continued to get the beatings until the referee stopped it in round 5.
Honestly, did anyone expect the fight to go that way? AJ was a massive favourite. Media are already speculating on whether AJ has any future or if this is it for him.
Any thoughts on what's next for both of them?
Here are some 3 minutes fight highlights for those who haven't seen it:
The fate of Anthony Joshua to remain in WBF is being questioned as to what next for him because the idea what for him to win Dubious, to face Usyk or Tyson Fury in whosever wins their December.
Now Anthony Joshua has lost to Dubious, he's now faced with a huge task to get his career back on track. However, Let's see what the future holds for him because, to him, it's not over yet. He wants to have more fights
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Damn, I missed this fight, I was literally caught sleeping, Lol, as I forget to bet on this one as I was looking for Dubois to win by knockout. Another missed opportunity, :(
In any case, it's forthcoming, leading up to the fight, you can see the Dubois is no pushover and will not be bullied by AJ in the pre-fight. And it translate in the fight itself as Dubois goes for head hunting early.
So congrats to those who bet on Dubois to win by ML as he was a huge favorite and by knockout as well.
Same here, I completely forgot about this fight since no one discussed it or made a thread on this forum. If I had placed a bet, I probably would have lost because I would have backed Anthony Joshua to win, either by decision or knockout, depending on the attractive odds.
I think AJ should retire, as a rematch would yield the same result. In my opinion, his boxing career is over.
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^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.
AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.
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It might actually be a smart move for AJ to retire early while he is still considered one of the top guys in the division. I think he is quickly losing his chin just as we saw in the multiple knockdowns against Dubois. Maybe he'll think about it after he suffers another KO/TKO loss in the rematch.
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^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.
AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.
I agree that he is too young to retire, but I’m uncertain if he can bounce back from this brutal loss to Daniel Dubois. I vividly recall his rematch with Ruiz; although he won, it seemed his confidence hadn’t fully returned. If they activate the rematch clause, I believe the outcome will be the same. Just my two cents.
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^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.
AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.
What do you mean young? AJ is already 35 years old and with a lot of wear and tear, and his chin easily to crack, I don't know how long can he hold himself in this sports. If he will be around 30 years old, then he could have a lot of years ahead of him, just like when he lost to Andy Ruiz, he was able to bounce back.
But losing to Usyk and then again him kissing the canvass for 4-5 times in a given fight, against a very young fighter in Dubois, I he has slowly sliding down and could be in the sunset of his career.
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^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.
AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.
What do you mean young? AJ is already 35 years old and with a lot of wear and tear, and his chin easily to crack, I don't know how long can he hold himself in this sports. If he will be around 30 years old, then he could have a lot of years ahead of him, just like when he lost to Andy Ruiz, he was able to bounce back.
But losing to Usyk and then again him kissing the canvass for 4-5 times in a given fight, against a very young fighter in Dubois, I he has slowly sliding down and could be in the sunset of his career.
They box for a living, what other options do they have? He doesn't need to be a champ again but just continue fighting and hope something good will come up like Zhang who is more than 40. Zhang is one hell of a giant Chinese boxer who made it to the top.
AJ is not broken. He overcome the blow after Ruiz and did it again after the loss against Usyk.
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^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.
AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.
What do you mean young? AJ is already 35 years old and with a lot of wear and tear, and his chin easily to crack, I don't know how long can he hold himself in this sports. If he will be around 30 years old, then he could have a lot of years ahead of him, just like when he lost to Andy Ruiz, he was able to bounce back.
But losing to Usyk and then again him kissing the canvass for 4-5 times in a given fight, against a very young fighter in Dubois, I he has slowly sliding down and could be in the sunset of his career.
They box for a living, what other options do they have? He doesn't need to be a champ again but just continue fighting and hope something good will come up like Zhang who is more than 40. Zhang is one hell of a giant Chinese boxer who made it to the top.
AJ is not broken. He overcome the blow after Ruiz and did it again after the loss against Usyk.
Well we can only say that he is not broken, but as you can see, this lost has cost him some good money in the future, like a potential fight with Fury or even a 3rd fight with Usyk.
So in my opinion, he is broken here, leading up to the fight, you will thought that he already won by the way he attack Dubois. Zhang is different case though, he become a contender in his late age, as compare to AJ who started very young and then lost to Ruiz, yeah for sure he was able to comeback, but against Usyk? You can see that he had mental breakdown when Usyk was announced as a winner.
They try to rebuild him by cherry picking opponents to gain his confidence back. But here, he is 35 years old, a lot of wear and tear, and his chin doesn't hold against a top puncher. And it will be very dangerous for him to go for a immediate rematch as it might end his career for good.
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^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.
AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.
I agree that he is too young to retire, but I’m uncertain if he can bounce back from this brutal loss to Daniel Dubois. I vividly recall his rematch with Ruiz; although he won, it seemed his confidence hadn’t fully returned. If they activate the rematch clause, I believe the outcome will be the same. Just my two cents.
He will need another cherry pick up if AJ wanted to bounce back. He could pick a boxer that he will knockout, but not sure if he can make a lot of money from it. Sort of like a Otto Wallin boxer, good in paper, but the risk is not that time.
As much as I think that we want him to retire, maybe he won't he will still have some good fights left for him. And maybe we will see Fury and AJ fight for the British title and it could be the last fight for either of the two.
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^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.
AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.
I agree that he is too young to retire, but I’m uncertain if he can bounce back from this brutal loss to Daniel Dubois. I vividly recall his rematch with Ruiz; although he won, it seemed his confidence hadn’t fully returned. If they activate the rematch clause, I believe the outcome will be the same. Just my two cents.
He will need another cherry pick up if AJ wanted to bounce back. He could pick a boxer that he will knockout, but not sure if he can make a lot of money from it. Sort of like a Otto Wallin boxer, good in paper, but the risk is not that time.
As much as I think that we want him to retire, maybe he won't he will still have some good fights left for him. And maybe we will see Fury and AJ fight for the British title and it could be the last fight for either of the two.
AJ vs Fury is very marketable match. I think they can make money out of it and it wouldn't matter AJ to lose again as long as he gets around more than $8M. Although it may not be this much, I believe it's still millions.
AJ can recover back again it may take time before he will try another fight but fighting as soon as possible will get him another leg up as long as he can cherry pick a fight.
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^ AJ is too young to retire. This isn't the first time he loses badly. He can recover back again just as he lost to Ruiz and Fury.
AJ has never back out from a fight against a top dog. Unfortunate, its going to be a battle for him to get a rematch for he will have to prove himself over again. He will need a few tuneups.
I agree that he is too young to retire, but I’m uncertain if he can bounce back from this brutal loss to Daniel Dubois. I vividly recall his rematch with Ruiz; although he won, it seemed his confidence hadn’t fully returned. If they activate the rematch clause, I believe the outcome will be the same. Just my two cents.
He will need another cherry pick up if AJ wanted to bounce back. He could pick a boxer that he will knockout, but not sure if he can make a lot of money from it. Sort of like a Otto Wallin boxer, good in paper, but the risk is not that time.
As much as I think that we want him to retire, maybe he won't he will still have some good fights left for him. And maybe we will see Fury and AJ fight for the British title and it could be the last fight for either of the two.
AJ vs Fury is very marketable match. I think they can make money out of it and it wouldn't matter AJ to lose again as long as he gets around more than $8M. Although it may not be this much, I believe it's still millions.
AJ can recover back again it may take time before he will try another fight but fighting as soon as possible will get him another leg up as long as he can cherry pick a fight.
It might take sometime though for that fight to happen, they need to realized that if Fury lost to Usyk again, and as we have seen, AJ lost to Dubois already, so they need to hype this fight before fans starts to be interested again. So both will have to fight someone that is good in paper, sort of their comeback fight then gain their confidence before they should face each other again in front of their fans in Wembley to see who is the greatest English boxer in this generation.
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Here are the press conference highlights for Bivol Vs Betterbiev:
As expected, there was not much trash-talking from either of them, and it was rather polite, with undercard fighters doing most of the talk + the second half of the video is the official trailer.
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Here are the press conference highlights for Bivol Vs Betterbiev:
As expected, there was not much trash-talking from either of them, and it was rather polite, with undercard fighters doing most of the talk + the second half of the video is the official trailer.
Seldom do we see fighters who are very respectful at each other. Although we all know that once they hear the ring in round 1, they are going to fight and will hit everything with bad intentions.
I hasn't seen much of the undercard, but for sure I will take a lot at it and see if there is something that we can parlay.
Just a couple of weeks, I'm really excited about this fight, and I will say that I might lean towards Bivol.
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Here are the press conference highlights for Bivol Vs Betterbiev:
As expected, there was not much trash-talking from either of them, and it was rather polite, with undercard fighters doing most of the talk + the second half of the video is the official trailer.
Seldom do we see fighters who are very respectful at each other. Although we all know that once they hear the ring in round 1, they are going to fight and will hit everything with bad intentions.
I hasn't seen much of the undercard, but for sure I will take a lot at it and see if there is something that we can parlay.
Just a couple of weeks, I'm really excited about this fight, and I will say that I might lean towards Bivol.
They are both Russians, so maybe that's where the respect is coming from. But you are right, once the bell rings, they will execute their game plan and try to win this fight. It is still Bivol the favorite and I do not see that it will change. Bivol will rely not on his power, as his power is just average, but with his sheer volume of punching. While on the other hand, despite his age, Beterbiev is considered right now as the best knockout artist with a perfect record. And that's why this is a very intriguing and interesting fight as it's really hard to see who will win and others despite the odds, thinks this is a 50-50 fight.
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As expected, there was not much trash-talking from either of them, and it was rather polite, with undercard fighters doing most of the talk + the second half of the video is the official trailer.
I'll give some time to watch the whole press conference, but as expected, both of these fighters have respect with one another. I mean correct me if I'm wrong but they're friends I think and there's no bad blood between the two of them whatsoever.
I hope this is what most of the boxers in the future will do. Enough of the trash talk shit already during the press conference. The problem is that fans always like trash talks and they're getting entertained whenever they see their man trash talking their opponent. These 2 fighters respect each other, and I wish that all of us will get entertained by this much anticipated fight. I hope there will also be no more postponement for the fight already like injuries whatever.
There's still no odds on different gambling websites still, but where will you put your bets if it opens? Or anybody here that wants to share who they will be betting with?
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There's still no odds on different gambling websites still, but where will you put your bets if it opens? Or anybody here that wants to share who they will be betting with?
I’m leaning towards betting on Dmitry Bivol, but the odds aren’t very appealing, especially since we’re not high rollers. I believe Bivol can withstand Beterbiev’s power, and if the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Bivol might come out on top.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/10/02/iRtSz.jpeg)
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There's still no odds on different gambling websites still, but where will you put your bets if it opens? Or anybody here that wants to share who they will be betting with?
I’m leaning towards betting on Dmitry Bivol, but the odds aren’t very appealing, especially since we’re not high rollers. I believe Bivol can withstand Beterbiev’s power, and if the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Bivol might come out on top.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/10/02/iRtSz.jpeg)
Go for Bivol winning by decision, hehehe, that's already what I put as my bet. And same with you, I think he can outlast Beterbiev and he will be very careful not to engage Beterbiev. Or if he will engage Beterbiev, he will be darting like going in and out, just like what he did against Canelo.
He also got a nice chin in my opinion, and it could be very hard to crack even with Beterbiev's power. So let's see, the line is still open, but I'm not expecting any swing odds for Beterbiev here.
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There's still no odds on different gambling websites still, but where will you put your bets if it opens? Or anybody here that wants to share who they will be betting with?
I’m leaning towards betting on Dmitry Bivol, but the odds aren’t very appealing, especially since we’re not high rollers. I believe Bivol can withstand Beterbiev’s power, and if the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Bivol might come out on top.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/10/02/iRtSz.jpeg)
Go for Bivol winning by decision, hehehe, that's already what I put as my bet. And same with you, I think he can outlast Beterbiev and he will be very careful not to engage Beterbiev. Or if he will engage Beterbiev, he will be darting like going in and out, just like what he did against Canelo.
He also got a nice chin in my opinion, and it could be very hard to crack even with Beterbiev's power. So let's see, the line is still open, but I'm not expecting any swing odds for Beterbiev here.
This is also what I have heard from many boxing analyst, that Bivol will take Beterbiev for a ride on a full 12 round fight and there will be no knockout or knockdown. It will be Bivol dictating the fight and will used his volume punching and his jab to take away Beterbiev's power and let Arthur gets tired in the championship round.
Personally, I see Beterbiev's weaknesses as maybe in the gas tank in his belly. He could be tired entering championship rounds while Bivol might still look fresh as he is the younger of the two.
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There's still no odds on different gambling websites still, but where will you put your bets if it opens? Or anybody here that wants to share who they will be betting with?
I’m leaning towards betting on Dmitry Bivol, but the odds aren’t very appealing, especially since we’re not high rollers. I believe Bivol can withstand Beterbiev’s power, and if the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Bivol might come out on top.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/10/02/iRtSz.jpeg)
Go for Bivol winning by decision, hehehe, that's already what I put as my bet. And same with you, I think he can outlast Beterbiev and he will be very careful not to engage Beterbiev. Or if he will engage Beterbiev, he will be darting like going in and out, just like what he did against Canelo.
He also got a nice chin in my opinion, and it could be very hard to crack even with Beterbiev's power. So let's see, the line is still open, but I'm not expecting any swing odds for Beterbiev here.
Yup, i'm going to tail you mate, betting fo Bivol to win via decision once they put that option on the bookie. Bivol has a decent chin while it is questionable if Beterbiev won't gas-out if the fight will last twelve rounds as all of his fight were all knockout wins.
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There's still no odds on different gambling websites still, but where will you put your bets if it opens? Or anybody here that wants to share who they will be betting with?
I’m leaning towards betting on Dmitry Bivol, but the odds aren’t very appealing, especially since we’re not high rollers. I believe Bivol can withstand Beterbiev’s power, and if the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Bivol might come out on top.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/10/02/iRtSz.jpeg)
Go for Bivol winning by decision, hehehe, that's already what I put as my bet. And same with you, I think he can outlast Beterbiev and he will be very careful not to engage Beterbiev. Or if he will engage Beterbiev, he will be darting like going in and out, just like what he did against Canelo.
He also got a nice chin in my opinion, and it could be very hard to crack even with Beterbiev's power. So let's see, the line is still open, but I'm not expecting any swing odds for Beterbiev here.
Yup, i'm going to tail you mate, betting fo Bivol to win via decision once they put that option on the bookie. Bivol has a decent chin while it is questionable if Beterbiev won't gas-out if the fight will last twelve rounds as all of his fight were all knockout wins.
It's seem that boxing fans are in unison to say that Beterbiev gas tank is being in question in this fight. And then we highlight the thing that Bivol did to Canelo, volume and high output every round and didn't give him any breathing room.
And Canelo doesn't have any answers for the volume punching and instead he just play dead and thinks that he can counter a counter puncher. So this fight might be the same, although Beterbiev has the power advantage, but I think Bivol is not going to be get caught in this fight.
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OK, so the Bivol's ex-wife drama is a real thing. I thought it was fake at first, but there is some press coverage already:
https://en.as.com/other_sports/dmitry-bivols-ex-wife-hits-below-the-belt-ahead-of-artur-beterbiev-bout-n/
https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-for-childrens-sake-dmitry-bivol-s-ex-wife-ekaterina-refuses-to-change-last-name-amid-alimony-dispute-this-is-my-complete-moral-and-legal-right/
https://www.si.com/fannation/boxing/dmitry-bivol-ex-wife-now-wants-him-defeated-by-opponent-artur-beterbiev-01j8whavp26s
What an utterly bitter c*nt she is. Publicly cheering for a father of her children to be beaten up by other guy just to get back at him for allegedly not paying her enough alimony.
She even posted this and tagged Beterbiev and his team:
https://x.com/diegomayra/status/1839487923135136145
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/10/03/isDyq.png)
Anybody knows when did they got divorced? Was it a long time ago ar is it a fresh thing? Things like that can really affect fighter's mentality and therefore the result of a fight.
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This is it, only 1 day to go to this epic fight.
Full weight in video:
Judging by the body language, both seem to be properly prepared and ready to go, with a slight advantage to Bivol who appeared to be a bit sharper and more focussed.
Beterbiev unnecessarily engaged in an argument with Hearn during the press conference, which made him look stressed and insecure.
I'm not going to bet on this one, but if I had to, my money would go on Bivol.
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^^ Yes, it looks like both of them are ready to rumble and 100% healthy. So there should be no excuses here, and if it live to the hype, a fight of the year candidate. And it seems that they don't have any problem making the weight as both of them are under 175 lbs.
Others says that it's a 50/50 fight which I do agree. But if you look at Beterbiev, he will be coming off from a injury and he is the older of the two. And it will be his first time to fight a caliber fighter like Bivol. While Bivol has battled the best of the 168 lbs and the cash cow Canelo and won. So for sure everyone is going to be up and going to watch this fight regardless or our time zone here.
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^^ Yes, it looks like both of them are ready to rumble and 100% healthy. So there should be no excuses here, and if it live to the hype, a fight of the year candidate. And it seems that they don't have any problem making the weight as both of them are under 175 lbs.
Others says that it's a 50/50 fight which I do agree. But if you look at Beterbiev, he will be coming off from a injury and he is the older of the two. And it will be his first time to fight a caliber fighter like Bivol. While Bivol has battled the best of the 168 lbs and the cash cow Canelo and won. So for sure everyone is going to be up and going to watch this fight regardless or our time zone here.
Yeah, the fight exceed to my expectation, that majority draw decision could go either way and both fighters were humble enough. Bivol didn't make the excuses that most boxers do after a close fight while Beterbiev accept the win with humility, what a guy.
There is no rematch clause in this fight, i wonder if HE Turki is willing to do a rematch as this will entail another huge amount just to bring these two fighters in one ring.
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Fresh news just came out that the IBF wants to force Beterbiev to fight the mandatory challenger Michael Eifert (does anyone even know who he is?), putting the potential rematch against Bivol in jeopardy:
https://talksport.com/boxing/2175966/artur-beterbiev-dmitry-bivol-rematch-ibf-michael-eifert/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/31148252/artur-beterbiev-dmitry-bivol-rematch-doubt-boxing/
Needless to say, fans are not happy with the IBF's decision. I wonder what Beterbiev will do next, I expect his team to ask the IBF to postpone the mandatory title defence, but if they don't agree, we might see Artur vacating the belt, similar to how Usyk has handled a similar situation.
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Tim Tszyu vs Bakhram Murtazaliev fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYmc7bVwOm0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYmc7bVwOm0)
Just hard to see Tim being knock down four times in this fight and eventually the referee and his corner has to stop the fight as he is no match from Bakhram Murtazaliev.
And I do think that Tim hasn't recover from the Fundora beating or that bloody fight. In the first knock down, it seems that he has exorcise the demon again and so he react different. With this defeat, I'm not really sure if he can come back though, he needs a tune up fight to bring his confidence back.
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Tim Tszyu vs Bakhram Murtazaliev fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYmc7bVwOm0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYmc7bVwOm0)
Just hard to see Tim being knock down four times in this fight and eventually the referee and his corner has to stop the fight as he is no match from Bakhram Murtazaliev.
And I do think that Tim hasn't recover from the Fundora beating or that bloody fight. In the first knock down, it seems that he has exorcise the demon again and so he react different. With this defeat, I'm not really sure if he can come back though, he needs a tune up fight to bring his confidence back.
That was a significant upset, especially since we fight fans hadn’t heard of Bakhram before his bout with Tim Tszyu. You’re right; he might need a tune-up fight to regain his confidence before challenging for a championship again, as another setback could derail his comeback.
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Tim Tszyu vs Bakhram Murtazaliev fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYmc7bVwOm0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYmc7bVwOm0)
Just hard to see Tim being knock down four times in this fight and eventually the referee and his corner has to stop the fight as he is no match from Bakhram Murtazaliev.
And I do think that Tim hasn't recover from the Fundora beating or that bloody fight. In the first knock down, it seems that he has exorcise the demon again and so he react different. With this defeat, I'm not really sure if he can come back though, he needs a tune up fight to bring his confidence back.
That was a significant upset, especially since we fight fans hadn’t heard of Bakhram before his bout with Tim Tszyu. You’re right; he might need a tune-up fight to regain his confidence before challenging for a championship again, as another setback could derail his comeback.
Yes, but if you look at Barkham, this guy is huge at 154 lbs and he had power in that left hand and Tim didn't anticipated that. So I do agree with your comments that he need to have a good tune up fight before fighting another good fighter. He can't just go and choose higher risk like Barkham next, otherwise it will be over for Tim and it is going to be very hard to come back from a back to back setbacks. For Barkham his name is on the mix again with the champion at super middleweight. I will like to see Crawford vs Fundora first as this is going to be the best fight at this division right now.
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Tim Tszyu vs Bakhram Murtazaliev fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYmc7bVwOm0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYmc7bVwOm0)
Just hard to see Tim being knock down four times in this fight and eventually the referee and his corner has to stop the fight as he is no match from Bakhram Murtazaliev.
And I do think that Tim hasn't recover from the Fundora beating or that bloody fight. In the first knock down, it seems that he has exorcise the demon again and so he react different. With this defeat, I'm not really sure if he can come back though, he needs a tune up fight to bring his confidence back.
That was a significant upset, especially since we fight fans hadn’t heard of Bakhram before his bout with Tim Tszyu. You’re right; he might need a tune-up fight to regain his confidence before challenging for a championship again, as another setback could derail his comeback.
Yeah, sometimes we have this kind of boxers, that relatively unknown and then try to break into the mainstream with a big win. And here it was Barkham who put a great fight and beat the the hell out of Tim Tszyu.
Tim hasn't been in a knockdown situation like this, that's why his eyes lighted because it was a different feeling for him. And he try to fight fire with fire, and it was just a bad matchup for him.
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(https://i.ibb.co/2NvsQ4k/Screenshot-2024-11-09-151017.png) (https://ibb.co/YZcyMsL)
For those who are not aware, there will be a rematch between two rugged Mexicans, Navarette vs Valdez at super featherweight. In the first fight, Navarette's height and length are too much for Oscar Valdez.
However, Valdez had a difficult fight when he goes up in weight and try to win another belt against Denys Berinchyk at Lightweight. But as expected, Valdez is 3:1 underdog and it's going to be very hard for him against Navarette in this rematch.
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^^ I think Navarette has all the advantage is this fight. And I agree that this fight could end just like in the first fight wherein Valdez is really fighting hard but he can't penetrate Navarette and every time he goes inside, Navarette caught him up with that left and that's why Valdez face was really in a messed in this fight. Perhaps though Valdez earn another shot, and so this fight if for Navarette's belt. The only thing that I can see Valdez winning is that if he caught Navarette napping and hit him with his signature left hand like what Liam Wilson did to Navarette that he almost scored a upset win.
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There was a fight that went under the radar, it was Boots Ennis defending his 147 lbs belt against Karen Chukhadzhian, who he had beaten already. The official scores were 119-107, 117-109 and 116-110.
On the other card, one of the most exciting fighter at the lower weight class, Bam Rodriguez scores a 3rd round knockout win against a experienced Pedro Guevara.
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/yuQpBpyCTCU/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuQpBpyCTCU)
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^^ Yes, Bam is a great fighter in the lower division, and I would like him to fight Chocolatito or Juan Estrada. Those two are the old guards of this 115 lbs weight class division. But since Bam's arrival, the picture has change obviously as he is one of the champion and he is like Inoue, who is very exciting and always look to score a knockout win.
Again, he could be fighting either of those guys if not then Japanese Kazuto Ioka and Kosei Tanaka is also a good test for him. He is also on the list of p4p so that is already a big accomplishment for this young fighter to be included on that great list.
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There was a fight that went under the radar, it was Boots Ennis defending his 147 lbs belt against Karen Chukhadzhian, who he had beaten already. The official scores were 119-107, 117-109 and 116-110.
On the other card, one of the most exciting fighter at the lower weight class, Bam Rodriguez scores a 3rd round knockout win against a experienced Pedro Guevara.
Forgot to create a thread for these fight but i managed to watched the highlights as i am curious about this kid, Bam Rodriguez and yeah, he lived up to the hype by beating Pedro Guevara who is a veteran on the super-flyweight division. I hope that one day Bam would be able to showcase his talent against Nakatani or Roman Gonzales in the near future.
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There was a fight that went under the radar, it was Boots Ennis defending his 147 lbs belt against Karen Chukhadzhian, who he had beaten already. The official scores were 119-107, 117-109 and 116-110.
On the other card, one of the most exciting fighter at the lower weight class, Bam Rodriguez scores a 3rd round knockout win against a experienced Pedro Guevara.
Forgot to create a thread for these fight but i managed to watched the highlights as i am curious about this kid, Bam Rodriguez and yeah, he lived up to the hype by beating Pedro Guevara who is a veteran on the super-flyweight division. I hope that one day Bam would be able to showcase his talent against Nakatani or Roman Gonzales in the near future.
Yeah, he is a great kid, and he beat a good fighter in Pedro Guevera. He could stay at 115 lbs or move up to 118 if he wanted to face the likes of Junto Nakatani, although 115 lbs is also loaded with some veterans as well.
There are a lot of options for him, like unifying the belt as well. So let's see what route he wanted to take or how high he can move up to those weight classes and face the champions and established himself as one of the best boxers that we have right now.
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There was a fight that went under the radar, it was Boots Ennis defending his 147 lbs belt against Karen Chukhadzhian, who he had beaten already. The official scores were 119-107, 117-109 and 116-110.
On the other card, one of the most exciting fighter at the lower weight class, Bam Rodriguez scores a 3rd round knockout win against a experienced Pedro Guevara.
Forgot to create a thread for these fight but i managed to watched the highlights as i am curious about this kid, Bam Rodriguez and yeah, he lived up to the hype by beating Pedro Guevara who is a veteran on the super-flyweight division. I hope that one day Bam would be able to showcase his talent against Nakatani or Roman Gonzales in the near future.
Yeah, he is a great kid, and he beat a good fighter in Pedro Guevera. He could stay at 115 lbs or move up to 118 if he wanted to face the likes of Junto Nakatani, although 115 lbs is also loaded with some veterans as well.
There are a lot of options for him, like unifying the belt as well. So let's see what route he wanted to take or how high he can move up to those weight classes and face the champions and established himself as one of the best boxers that we have right now.
His team is planning a fight with the veteran Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez which i think a good fight for though i'm thinking that Gonzales will bow to him as he is not on his peak anymore but nevetheless it would be a good test for the young Bam Rodriguez before moving up to the bantamweight division.
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There was a fight that went under the radar, it was Boots Ennis defending his 147 lbs belt against Karen Chukhadzhian, who he had beaten already. The official scores were 119-107, 117-109 and 116-110.
On the other card, one of the most exciting fighter at the lower weight class, Bam Rodriguez scores a 3rd round knockout win against a experienced Pedro Guevara.
Forgot to create a thread for these fight but i managed to watched the highlights as i am curious about this kid, Bam Rodriguez and yeah, he lived up to the hype by beating Pedro Guevara who is a veteran on the super-flyweight division. I hope that one day Bam would be able to showcase his talent against Nakatani or Roman Gonzales in the near future.
Yeah, he is a great kid, and he beat a good fighter in Pedro Guevera. He could stay at 115 lbs or move up to 118 if he wanted to face the likes of Junto Nakatani, although 115 lbs is also loaded with some veterans as well.
There are a lot of options for him, like unifying the belt as well. So let's see what route he wanted to take or how high he can move up to those weight classes and face the champions and established himself as one of the best boxers that we have right now.
His team is planning a fight with the veteran Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez which i think a good fight for though i'm thinking that Gonzales will bow to him as he is not on his peak anymore but nevetheless it would be a good test for the young Bam Rodriguez before moving up to the bantamweight division.
It will still be a good fight, Chocolatito has been in top of his game for many years though, so we all know that he could not be in his prime already although he could still pull the trigger.
But I don't want to see him getting knock the f**k out. I want the fight to last for full 12 rounds and it should be a war. Like Estrada vs Chocolatito before, they are rivals and deliver one of the best fights in this division for many years.
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It will still be a good fight, Chocolatito has been in top of his game for many years though, so we all know that he could not be in his prime already although he could still pull the trigger.
But I don't want to see him getting knock the f**k out. I want the fight to last for full 12 rounds and it should be a war. Like Estrada vs Chocolatito before, they are rivals and deliver one of the best fights in this division for many years.
Yeah, Chocolatito is a veteran but in his 4 losses, he was only defeated by two boxers, Juan Francisco Estrada and Wisaksil Wangek but the most unforgetable fight for me involving Chocolatito was his trilogy with Estrada.
If Bam Rodriguez will defeat Chocolatito then it another feather to his cap and i think that is very possible since the latter is clearly not on his prime.
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It will still be a good fight, Chocolatito has been in top of his game for many years though, so we all know that he could not be in his prime already although he could still pull the trigger.
But I don't want to see him getting knock the f**k out. I want the fight to last for full 12 rounds and it should be a war. Like Estrada vs Chocolatito before, they are rivals and deliver one of the best fights in this division for many years.
Yeah, Chocolatito is a veteran but in his 4 losses, he was only defeated by two boxers, Juan Francisco Estrada and Wisaksil Wangek but the most unforgetable fight for me involving Chocolatito was his trilogy with Estrada.
Yes, no one will forget that trilogy between rivals Estrada vs Gonzalez. But in the end it was Estrada who remain on top and beat Chocolatito, but now it could be the other way around as Estrada could be the older fighter vs Bam who is just barely 24 years old.
If Bam Rodriguez will defeat Chocolatito then it another feather to his cap and i think that is very possible since the latter is clearly not on his prime.
Either one or better yet, he beat the two of them, it will really cemented his legacy at this division. And maybe he should go for unification before eh moves up in weight class.
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Results of the fight this weekend.
Paro vs Hitchins - Hitchins pull a upset as he beat the champion Liam Paro by a decision, the scores were 117-111 (Paro), 116-112 (Hitchins), and 116-112 (Hitchins). Now he aim for a fight with Teo Lopez to unify belts.
As expected, it was a war between Navarette and Oscar Valdez again. But Navarette prevail as he battered Valdez in their rematch. Navarette score multiple knockdowns and so it's clear that Navarette being the bigger man and finishes off Oscar Valdez faster this time.
Ramirez says no mas against Ramirez in their own version of the rematch. He was complaining that Ramirez elbow him, and yeah, watching the fight, I saw some elbow in round 4. So he quit because he can't see or had double vision.
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Results of the fight this weekend.
Paro vs Hitchins - Hitchins pull a upset as he beat the champion Liam Paro by a decision, the scores were 117-111 (Paro), 116-112 (Hitchins), and 116-112 (Hitchins). Now he aim for a fight with Teo Lopez to unify belts.
As expected, it was a war between Navarette and Oscar Valdez again. But Navarette prevail as he battered Valdez in their rematch. Navarette score multiple knockdowns and so it's clear that Navarette being the bigger man and finishes off Oscar Valdez faster this time.
Ramirez says no mas against Ramirez in their own version of the rematch. He was complaining that Ramirez elbow him, and yeah, watching the fight, I saw some elbow in round 4. So he quit because he can't see or had double vision.
Of the three fights, i'm a bit surprised on why Ramirez quit against Espinoza. There might be some elbows but i think that was accidental and it could happen in boxing so he had to adjust. He was leading on the unofficial scorecards, i think he could have won the fight if he continued.
As for the Valdez vs Navarette fight, i think the latter is just too much for Oscar Valdez. The volume of punches that Navarette threw was too much for him to avoid but kudos to him for fighting till the end.
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Results of the fight this weekend.
Paro vs Hitchins - Hitchins pull a upset as he beat the champion Liam Paro by a decision, the scores were 117-111 (Paro), 116-112 (Hitchins), and 116-112 (Hitchins). Now he aim for a fight with Teo Lopez to unify belts.
As expected, it was a war between Navarette and Oscar Valdez again. But Navarette prevail as he battered Valdez in their rematch. Navarette score multiple knockdowns and so it's clear that Navarette being the bigger man and finishes off Oscar Valdez faster this time.
Ramirez says no mas against Ramirez in their own version of the rematch. He was complaining that Ramirez elbow him, and yeah, watching the fight, I saw some elbow in round 4. So he quit because he can't see or had double vision.
Of the three fights, i'm a bit surprised on why Ramirez quit against Espinoza. There might be some elbows but i think that was accidental and it could happen in boxing so he had to adjust. He was leading on the unofficial scorecards, i think he could have won the fight if he continued.
As for the Valdez vs Navarette fight, i think the latter is just too much for Oscar Valdez. The volume of punches that Navarette threw was too much for him to avoid but kudos to him for fighting till the end.
Each fight contains important experience that can help us learn something new about strategy and persistance in this type of fighting sport. When a boxer is in trouble inside the boxing ring, it’s the ability to remain calm & continue to try for a chance to create a winning vision.
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Results of the fight this weekend.
Paro vs Hitchins - Hitchins pull a upset as he beat the champion Liam Paro by a decision, the scores were 117-111 (Paro), 116-112 (Hitchins), and 116-112 (Hitchins). Now he aim for a fight with Teo Lopez to unify belts.
As expected, it was a war between Navarette and Oscar Valdez again. But Navarette prevail as he battered Valdez in their rematch. Navarette score multiple knockdowns and so it's clear that Navarette being the bigger man and finishes off Oscar Valdez faster this time.
Ramirez says no mas against Ramirez in their own version of the rematch. He was complaining that Ramirez elbow him, and yeah, watching the fight, I saw some elbow in round 4. So he quit because he can't see or had double vision.
Of the three fights, i'm a bit surprised on why Ramirez quit against Espinoza. There might be some elbows but i think that was accidental and it could happen in boxing so he had to adjust. He was leading on the unofficial scorecards, i think he could have won the fight if he continued.
I think Ramirez could have been suffering from double vision already, and so when Espinoza elbowed him, he somewhat felt that his eyes could be damage if he continue to fight. Nevertheless, he is a Cuban so what do we expect? If this is a Mexican, maybe he wouldn't quit and beaten as they are warriors. While Cuban has history of quitting like Rigo against Loma.
As for the Valdez vs Navarette fight, i think the latter is just too much for Oscar Valdez. The volume of punches that Navarette threw was too much for him to avoid but kudos to him for fighting till the end.
The volume and the accuracy as well, he scored two knock downs against Valdez in this fight. And he was just too big for Valdez, and again, Oscar has been in such wars in his career that his body is really deteriorating in his every fight.
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As for the Valdez vs Navarette fight, i think the latter is just too much for Oscar Valdez. The volume of punches that Navarette threw was too much for him to avoid but kudos to him for fighting till the end.
The volume and the accuracy as well, he scored two knock downs against Valdez in this fight. And he was just too big for Valdez, and again, Oscar has been in such wars in his career that his body is really deteriorating in his every fight.
Yeah, Navarette is too good and too big for Oscar Valdez to defeat. Maybe it is time now for Oscar to retire as his body has taken its toll on the years of banging or he could fight a non popular boxer which i think is not good for his career.
I hope that Onoue could go up to the 130-lb division and fight Navarette, this could be an interesting fight in the career of Inoue.
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As for the Valdez vs Navarette fight, i think the latter is just too much for Oscar Valdez. The volume of punches that Navarette threw was too much for him to avoid but kudos to him for fighting till the end.
The volume and the accuracy as well, he scored two knock downs against Valdez in this fight. And he was just too big for Valdez, and again, Oscar has been in such wars in his career that his body is really deteriorating in his every fight.
Yeah, Navarette is too good and too big for Oscar Valdez to defeat. Maybe it is time now for Oscar to retire as his body has taken its toll on the years of banging or he could fight a non popular boxer which i think is not good for his career.
That's what I'm also seeing in Oscar Valdez, his body might be showing signs that he might not be in his prime. Well, he can still fight boxers that are not contender or champion. Because if he do on his next couple of fights, he might take damage again.
I hope that Onoue could go up to the 130-lb division and fight Navarette, this could be an interesting fight in the career of Inoue.
I don't think that Navarette can stay at 130-lbs division, and then Inoue hasn't move up to 126-lbs although there is news that he will be doing that exactly next year.
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As for the Valdez vs Navarette fight, i think the latter is just too much for Oscar Valdez. The volume of punches that Navarette threw was too much for him to avoid but kudos to him for fighting till the end.
The volume and the accuracy as well, he scored two knock downs against Valdez in this fight. And he was just too big for Valdez, and again, Oscar has been in such wars in his career that his body is really deteriorating in his every fight.
Yeah, Navarette is too good and too big for Oscar Valdez to defeat. Maybe it is time now for Oscar to retire as his body has taken its toll on the years of banging or he could fight a non popular boxer which i think is not good for his career.
I'm not seeing Oscar Valdez retiring, he is too proud of a Mexican heritage to return despite the war that he had been throughout his career. I think there are still like 2-3 good fight in him before hanging the gloves.
I hope that Onoue could go up to the 130-lb division and fight Navarette, this could be an interesting fight in the career of Inoue.
It depends on Inoue, let see first if he can go up against the best of 126 lbs when he moves up next year. There are a lot of bigger names as well in the 126 lbs that Inoue will first need to conquer.
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Inoue has to fight at least someone popular and in Las Vegas because to test whether he can fill the arena. Its already hurting the profit when Saudi and Japan keeps promoting fights in their country.
Seeing Inoue going to make sales in US thats when they can decide to move up to find boxers to fight in US. Arum/Hearn doesn't have the leverage to make it somewhere else but in Japan for now.
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Murodjon Akhmadaliev and Ricardo Espinoza fight, here is the official weigh-in,
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/at1wzNPgDK4/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at1wzNPgDK4)
Both make the weight-in, Murodjon Akhmadaliev (121lbs) vs Ricardo Espinoza Franco (121.6lbs).
So let's see if MJ Akhmadaliev can get back into the picture in the super bantamweight division. It's not that Inoue doesn't want to fight or has duck him, it's that Inoue has better plans and that he will be fighting in the US next year.
And with that, if he vacated the belt, Akhmadaliev might be another fighting that will be given the chance since he is a former champion. So this is a test that he needs to pass in order to be in the contention next year.
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Inoue has to fight at least someone popular and in Las Vegas because to test whether he can fill the arena. Its already hurting the profit when Saudi and Japan keeps promoting fights in their country.
Yes, but as the saying goes, it takes two to tango. Meaning it's not that only Inoue will fill the arena, but it also depends on who he is going to face as opponents. If it is a champion, then definitely, everyone will be interested to see him.
Seeing Inoue going to make sales in US thats when they can decide to move up to find boxers to fight in US. Arum/Hearn doesn't have the leverage to make it somewhere else but in Japan for now.
They still have the leverage as Inoue has built his reputation already. Just to remind you, he had fights in the US already when he won the WBSS (World Bantamweight Super Series), so his names proceeds with such standing already. But US fans want to see him more and fight their as US is still the center of boxing.
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I don't know if we have a separate thread about this fight,
And during their media workout, Benavidez pushes Morrell,
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/xlznrFHAxY0/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlznrFHAxY0)
So fight is definitely on, as Benavidez added more fuel to a already heated fight. And Morrell throwing his belt in return though, Lol, that's crazy. But as fans, we love this kind of animosity.
That's what bring fans to watch this fight live as we are all interested and hype. ;)
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I will just put this one here,
Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney on the brink of a deal for trilogy series (https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-and-devin-haney-on-the-brink-of-a-deal-for-trilogy-series--201290/)
The fighters have already signed off on a non-binding memo of deal points crafted by Saudi Arabia’s events company Sela.
The top priority to move things forward now is for Garcia to enroll in a more than year-long comprehensive drug testing program supervised by an agency he has often criticized, the Nevada-based Voluntary Anti-Doping Association.
Believing that Garcia will do so, Haney had his attorney move Wednesday to put a 90-day hold on Haney’s multi-million-dollar lawsuit against Garcia that alleged battery, among other claims, connected to the dispute over their prior bout.
So not just for the rematch, but they are talking about a possible third fight.
There is a condition though, but if they really wanted to settle their differences inside the ring and at the same time makes a lot of money because again, the powerful Saudi broker will be in the middle, then this fight is going to be made this year.
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I will just put this one here,
Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney on the brink of a deal for trilogy series (https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-and-devin-haney-on-the-brink-of-a-deal-for-trilogy-series--201290/)
The fighters have already signed off on a non-binding memo of deal points crafted by Saudi Arabia’s events company Sela.
The top priority to move things forward now is for Garcia to enroll in a more than year-long comprehensive drug testing program supervised by an agency he has often criticized, the Nevada-based Voluntary Anti-Doping Association.
Believing that Garcia will do so, Haney had his attorney move Wednesday to put a 90-day hold on Haney’s multi-million-dollar lawsuit against Garcia that alleged battery, among other claims, connected to the dispute over their prior bout.
So not just for the rematch, but they are talking about a possible third fight.
There is a condition though, but if they really wanted to settle their differences inside the ring and at the same time makes a lot of money because again, the powerful Saudi broker will be in the middle, then this fight is going to be made this year.
If this plan goes through, it would be a great move by Devin Haney to redeem his career. Not only would they settle their differences in the ring, but they could also make a lot of money. It would be interesting if Haney won the second fight, leading to a trilogy. However, I have a feeling that Garcia would punish Haney, as he already knows how to beat him.
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I will just put this one here,
Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney on the brink of a deal for trilogy series (https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-and-devin-haney-on-the-brink-of-a-deal-for-trilogy-series--201290/)
The fighters have already signed off on a non-binding memo of deal points crafted by Saudi Arabia’s events company Sela.
The top priority to move things forward now is for Garcia to enroll in a more than year-long comprehensive drug testing program supervised by an agency he has often criticized, the Nevada-based Voluntary Anti-Doping Association.
Believing that Garcia will do so, Haney had his attorney move Wednesday to put a 90-day hold on Haney’s multi-million-dollar lawsuit against Garcia that alleged battery, among other claims, connected to the dispute over their prior bout.
So not just for the rematch, but they are talking about a possible third fight.
There is a condition though, but if they really wanted to settle their differences inside the ring and at the same time makes a lot of money because again, the powerful Saudi broker will be in the middle, then this fight is going to be made this year.
If this plan goes through, it would be a great move by Devin Haney to redeem his career. Not only would they settle their differences in the ring, but they could also make a lot of money. It would be interesting if Haney won the second fight, leading to a trilogy. However, I have a feeling that Garcia would punish Haney, as he already knows how to beat him.
Probably signing a trilogy is just an insurance from both sides and HE Turki himself.
So I'm exciting to see the rematch and for sure majority of the boxing fans. But I would agree that it will end up the same or worst for Haney. As Devin style is really suited up for Garcia.
He is really open up for that left hook, and once it land again, he is going down in the canvass and this time he might not beat the 10 count.
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I don't remember if we have discussed a fight between Darren Till vs Tom Fury. However, Tom Fury pulled out of the fight and Anthony Taylor replace him.
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/Miy_RpwBqFg/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Miy_RpwBqFg)
If was a dominant win by Till, he was the bigger and sharper between the two. He scored, three knockdowns before the referee wave off the fight as it was a complete mismatch. Although there were moments wherein it looks like Taylor is going to make a comeback but Till just eat all those shots.
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I don't remember if we have discussed a fight between Darren Till vs Tom Fury. However, Tom Fury pulled out of the fight and Anthony Taylor replace him.
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If was a dominant win by Till, he was the bigger and sharper between the two. He scored, three knockdowns before the referee wave off the fight as it was a complete mismatch. Although there were moments wherein it looks like Taylor is going to make a comeback but Till just eat all those shots.
Yeah, Till was the obvious bigger fighter of the two. Only watched the highlights of the fight as we don't have a thread that we could discuss about this fight and i could say that Till is a good boxer and performed well than expected of him. Just wonder though what's the odds of this fight and hopefully, he and Tom Fury would finally meet in the ring sooner.
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I don't remember if we have discussed a fight between Darren Till vs Tom Fury. However, Tom Fury pulled out of the fight and Anthony Taylor replace him.
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If was a dominant win by Till, he was the bigger and sharper between the two. He scored, three knockdowns before the referee wave off the fight as it was a complete mismatch. Although there were moments wherein it looks like Taylor is going to make a comeback but Till just eat all those shots.
Yeah, Till was the obvious bigger fighter of the two. Only watched the highlights of the fight as we don't have a thread that we could discuss about this fight and i could say that Till is a good boxer and performed well than expected of him. Just wonder though what's the odds of this fight and hopefully, he and Tom Fury would finally meet in the ring sooner.
Me too. I was just curious to see how the fight goes that I watched the highlights. They both are not so popular but they got into all these boxing match still. But it would have some fans watching it if it was Tom Fury.
Both are not real boxers so you can expect them to fight like how street fights play out. And obviously Til is the bigger guy.
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And so it Ryan Garcia will be back, and he is fighting Rolly Romero. Also, Devin Haney fighting Ramirez a former champion. This is being set up obviously but HE Turki and then if both win their fight, the will have their rematch or even a trilogy.
So let's see, we wanted the rematch as well because of the PEDs accusations on Ryan. But for me, it will still be the same outcome, and I'm seeing that Ryan will dominate the fight with knockdowns. And I wouldn't be surprises this time if he actually knockout Haney cold.
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And so it Ryan Garcia will be back, and he is fighting Rolly Romero. Also, Devin Haney fighting Ramirez a former champion. This is being set up obviously but HE Turki and then if both win their fight, the will have their rematch or even a trilogy.
So let's see, we wanted the rematch as well because of the PEDs accusations on Ryan. But for me, it will still be the same outcome, and I'm seeing that Ryan will dominate the fight with knockdowns. And I wouldn't be surprises this time if he actually knockout Haney cold.
Risky move for both Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney because what if one of them will lose of their respective fights, the rematch won't push through. Anyways, i agree on your thought that the outcome will be the same to their first fight as Ryan is already confident that he could take out Haney, all he needs to do is to be patience and wait for the opening. I'm a bit excited on this rematch and bet for Garcia to beat Haney by knockout, hope the odds is attractive for this option.
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And so it Ryan Garcia will be back, and he is fighting Rolly Romero. Also, Devin Haney fighting Ramirez a former champion. This is being set up obviously but HE Turki and then if both win their fight, the will have their rematch or even a trilogy.
So let's see, we wanted the rematch as well because of the PEDs accusations on Ryan. But for me, it will still be the same outcome, and I'm seeing that Ryan will dominate the fight with knockdowns. And I wouldn't be surprises this time if he actually knockout Haney cold.
Risky move for both Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney because what if one of them will lose of their respective fights, the rematch won't push through. Anyways, i agree on your thought that the outcome will be the same to their first fight as Ryan is already confident that he could take out Haney, all he needs to do is to be patience and wait for the opening. I'm a bit excited on this rematch and bet for Garcia to beat Haney by knockout, hope the odds is attractive for this option.
True mate, but I guess they really believed on their talent that they are going to win against their opponent and so they are willing to take that risk. And still it's like a tune up fight so they will have to fight someone to shake off that ring rusk.
But let's see if there will be an upset and what will be the plans after that.
Hopefully though, there are no derailing the big fight between Garcia and Haney as this could be one of the biggest fight for this year.
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Here is the final press conference,
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/5N9oYhlP_wk/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N9oYhlP_wk)
And the trash talking still continues, and if you look at it, Morrell acknowledge team Benavidez and thank them. But when it's time for Benavidez to take the stage he didn't mentioned team Morrell and then started to run his mouth off.
Tomorrow will be the weigh-in for sure there will be physical altercations as they really genuinely hate each other of they are doing it just for the hype and to sell tickets. But in the end they are going to take each other heads off so this is a much watch fight.
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Final weigh-in guys,
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/tUbPkIM24gg/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUbPkIM24gg)
Benavidez and Morrell came in on weight – both at 174.2lbs.
And there was rumor that Morrell was dropped during his sparring and that he got a black eye from one of them. But this has been shot down by his sparring partners himself and said that it is not true.
Anyway, it's less than 24 hours from now, both have re-hydrated already and so we will just wait and hopefully it will live up to the billing of a super fight as both are undefeated.
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Final weigh-in guys,
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Benavidez and Morrell came in on weight – both at 174.2lbs.
And there was rumor that Morrell was dropped during his sparring and that he got a black eye from one of them. But this has been shot down by his sparring partners himself and said that it is not true.
Anyway, it's less than 24 hours from now, both have re-hydrated already and so we will just wait and hopefully it will live up to the billing of a super fight as both are undefeated.
Good fight and as expected, it was a war and both guys give the fans a show but it was Benavidez who landed the most punches and a more telling blows. With this win i hope Benavidez could fight the winner of the Bivol vs Beterbiev rematch.
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Here's the face-off,
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/wXGynD3_hm0/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXGynD3_hm0)
Dubois though shouldn't understand Parker and his mindset should not be that Parker will be an easy fight for him because it's not. But we can't take away the confidence of Dubois as he thinks he is the new face of British Heavyweight.
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Here's the face-off,
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Dubois though shouldn't understand Parker and his mindset should not be that Parker will be an easy fight for him because it's not. But we can't take away the confidence of Dubois as he thinks he is the new face of British Heavyweight.
Dubios' confidence at the moment is sky-high with his recent victory against Anthony Joshua but he should not underestimate Parker because anything can happen in boxing and besides his ultimate goal now is the remach with Usyk, that can be derailed if he losses to Parker so he should keep that in mind.
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Oleksandr Usyk reveals he has just two fights left in his career & wants Daniel Dubois-Joseph Parker winner next
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/30964/13307874/oleksandr-usyk-reveals-he-has-just-two-fights-left-in-his-career-wants-daniel-dubois-joseph-parker-winner-next
There we go. Usyk confirmed he's willing to fight the winner of Dubois Vs. Parker next and also said he only expects to fight two more times before hanging off the gloves. We've seen many boxers announcing retirements and changing their minds later, but I think in Usyk's case, that's probably a well-thought decision and he meant what he said. That would make sense as he would be around 40 when that happens.
Dubois fights Parker on 22nd Feb and is an x1.35 favourite, which I think are fair odds, but it's possible that Parker will make a surprise.
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^^I believe Usyk is serious this time; he plans to retire for good after two more fights because there’s not much left for him in the heavyweight division, and age is catching up with him. I just hope Dubois will have a convincing win against Parker to set up a rematch with Usyk.
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^^I believe Usyk is serious this time; he plans to retire for good after two more fights because there’s not much left for him in the heavyweight division, and age is catching up with him. I just hope Dubois will have a convincing win against Parker to set up a rematch with Usyk.
3 more fights is even a lot, it could take a year or 2 for these fights and he will be 40 by that time. there is no one else to fight that's why they offer him to fight at 175lbs for him to be a champ in 3 division but he declined afaik.
he is already the goat in cruise and heavyweight, i think its time for him to actually retire. he doesn't have to experience loss to retire. though he knocked out Dubios, he is actually dangerous now that he is gaining more experience at 27.
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^^I believe Usyk is serious this time; he plans to retire for good after two more fights because there’s not much left for him in the heavyweight division, and age is catching up with him. I just hope Dubois will have a convincing win against Parker to set up a rematch with Usyk.
That's every boxer's dream to retire as the GOAT in his era and on the divisions he has conquered, and it may happen if he beat Dubois, who is now more dangerous than ever.
After the Dubois fight, if he beat Dubois, he should retire while he is on top of his game, like what Lennox Lewis did, so he can be considered the GOAT of your era.
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^^I believe Usyk is serious this time; he plans to retire for good after two more fights because there’s not much left for him in the heavyweight division, and age is catching up with him. I just hope Dubois will have a convincing win against Parker to set up a rematch with Usyk.
That's every boxer's dream to retire as the GOAT in his era and on the divisions he has conquered, and it may happen if he beat Dubois, who is now more dangerous than ever.
After the Dubois fight, if he beat Dubois, he should retire while he is on top of his game, like what Lennox Lewis did, so he can be considered the GOAT of your era.
And if that happens, then he has clean the division for good. Beat everyone, or at least the best fighter that he has a chance to fight like AJ and Fury and beat them twice.
But I do agree that Dubois is a dangerous opponent, although he beat him already, it was a very controversial result. So I think they still need a rematch or fight when Dubois bet Parker.
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Breaking news, Dubois is out,
Daniel Dubois withdraws from Joseph Parker fight due to viral infection (https://www.boxingscene.com/daniel-dubois-withdraws-from-joseph-parker-fight-due-to-viral-infection--205410)
A source close to the situation informed BoxingScene this evening that a viral infection is the cause of Dubois’ withdrawal, which unfortunately comes just days after Floyd Schofield withdrew from his scheduled fight against Shakur Stevenson on the same card.
And if you can see during the final press conference (and I was wondering why he is not there and so I feel anxious about it and think that something is not right), Dubois is not present but Parker says that he is still looking to fight him. However, hours later it was declared that Daniel has withdrawn and it will be Martin Bakole as the replacement fighter.
Very unfortunate event for Dubois and for boxing fans, but I guess we can't really anticipate or no one can stop this kind of thing happening before the fight like injuries and health issues.
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Breaking news, Dubois is out,
Daniel Dubois withdraws from Joseph Parker fight due to viral infection (https://www.boxingscene.com/daniel-dubois-withdraws-from-joseph-parker-fight-due-to-viral-infection--205410)
A source close to the situation informed BoxingScene this evening that a viral infection is the cause of Dubois’ withdrawal, which unfortunately comes just days after Floyd Schofield withdrew from his scheduled fight against Shakur Stevenson on the same card.
And if you can see during the final press conference (and I was wondering why he is not there and so I feel anxious about it and think that something is not right), Dubois is not present but Parker says that he is still looking to fight him. However, hours later it was declared that Daniel has withdrawn and it will be Martin Bakole as the replacement fighter.
Very unfortunate event for Dubois and for boxing fans, but I guess we can't really anticipate or no one can stop this kind of thing happening before the fight like injuries and health issues.
Another fighter out for card. I have also read on my social media feed that Shakur Stevenson's original opponent also withdraw because of illness or injury. But the good thing is that the main event fighter (Bivol and Beterbiev) are all well and raring to go.
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Breaking news, Dubois is out,
Daniel Dubois withdraws from Joseph Parker fight due to viral infection (https://www.boxingscene.com/daniel-dubois-withdraws-from-joseph-parker-fight-due-to-viral-infection--205410)
A source close to the situation informed BoxingScene this evening that a viral infection is the cause of Dubois’ withdrawal, which unfortunately comes just days after Floyd Schofield withdrew from his scheduled fight against Shakur Stevenson on the same card.
And if you can see during the final press conference (and I was wondering why he is not there and so I feel anxious about it and think that something is not right), Dubois is not present but Parker says that he is still looking to fight him. However, hours later it was declared that Daniel has withdrawn and it will be Martin Bakole as the replacement fighter.
Very unfortunate event for Dubois and for boxing fans, but I guess we can't really anticipate or no one can stop this kind of thing happening before the fight like injuries and health issues.
Another fighter out for card. I have also read on my social media feed that Shakur Stevenson's original opponent also withdraw because of illness or injury. But the good thing is that the main event fighter (Bivol and Beterbiev) are all well and raring to go.
Yes, and Josh Padley has been confirmed as a late replacement. I don't know what's happening with this fighters suddenly getting ill as the fight gets closer.
But still as you have said, we have the Bivol vs Beterbiev co main event so that is good enough for boxing fans.
And Dubois has been replaced as well so Parker will still be in the card.
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Here are the winners of the fight,
Dmitry Bivol beats Artur Beterbiev by majority decision (114-114, 116-112, 115-113)
Joseph Parker defeats Martin Bakole via knockout (2:17 of Round 2)
Shakur Stevenson defeats Josh Padley via TKO (3:oo of Round 9)
Carlos Adames vs. Hamzah Sheeraz ends in a split draw (115-114 (Sheeraz), 118-110 (Adames), 114-114)
Vergil Ortiz Jr defeats Israil Madrimov via unanimous decision (117-111, 115-113, 115-113)
Agit Kabayel defeats Zhilei Zhang via knockout (2:29 of Round 6)
Callum Smith defeats Joshua Buatsi via unanimous decision (119-110, 115-113, 116-112)
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Agit Kabayel defeats Zhilei Zhang via knockout (2:29 of Round 6)
Of all the fights in the card, i'm a bit surprised with this matchup. Kabayel took down the big Chinese guy, Zhang. Those body shots were just too lethal for Zhang. Kabayel is now the WBC interim champion, hope he can land a fight with Usyk soon.
Just wonder what are the odds for the Zhang vs Kabayel fight, who was the favorite to win?
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Agit Kabayel defeats Zhilei Zhang via knockout (2:29 of Round 6)
Of all the fights in the card, i'm a bit surprised with this matchup. Kabayel took down the big Chinese guy, Zhang. Those body shots were just too lethal for Zhang. Kabayel is now the WBC interim champion, hope he can land a fight with Usyk soon.
Just wonder what are the odds for the Zhang vs Kabayel fight, who was the favorite to win?
it must be Zhang he is biggest and have fought experienced fighters in the bigger boxing organization. this must have been an upset. i only saw the youtube highlights and it was Zhang who first knock down the German but the German is tougher. and Zhang gassed out as well.
he just kneel feeling the pain from the body punch. he is getting old as well. i think for a Chinese, his boxing achievement is way beyond any Chinese ever done in boxing.
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Chris Eubank vs Connor Benn
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/jzoGAl_sxHc/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzoGAl_sxHc)
There was a brawl in the face off as Chris Eubank slap Connor Benn with a egg in the face. So this makes the fight really personal between the two. If you guys remember, this two was supposed to fight in October 2022 but was found to have tested positive for a ban substance and was suspended.
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If boxing fans are looking for an update from Ryan Garcia, here is the latest,
https://x.com/ringmagazine/status/1894576428152492113
It was reported that he is working with his former coach and trainer, Eddy Reynoso. Maybe he did go back to Eddy for his preparation fight against Devin Haney, and it's good, it will really bring balance for him as he Eddy was his first training and did guide him to have a breakout in boxing.
He looks huge though, but plenty of time for him to trim and go back to fighting weight of 140 lbs or in a catchweight.
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Face-off,
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/AduD4bwI7zs/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AduD4bwI7zs)
The size difference between the two boxers is obviously huge.
And yes, there's no egg here, as Chris Eubank Jr has been scanned by a egg detector before the face off, Lol. Eubank though is still the slight favorite in this fight, 1.65 against Conor Benn 2.16.
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Face-off,
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The size difference between the two boxers is obviously huge.
And yes, there's no egg here, as Chris Eubank Jr has been scanned by a egg detector before the face off, Lol. Eubank though is still the slight favorite in this fight, 1.65 against Conor Benn 2.16.
I don't know if the news on my social media news feed were tru but it says that this fight is cancelled due to that incident where Chris Eubank slapped Connor Benn with an egg. I hope that was fake news as this fight is getting more exciting because of that incedent hehe.
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Here is the final weigh-in,
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/kV8SboxZBeo/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV8SboxZBeo)
Lamont Roach - 135 lbs
Tank Davis - 133.8 lbs
So everything is set for this fight. I do not see Lamont Roach though pulling a big upset here. Roach a huge underdog, almost 10:1. So it's obvious that this could be another easy fight for Davis.
And I think the best bet here is the over/under at 8.5 rounds.
Under 8.5 rounds is @1.85.
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Tank looks very different there, there's no swag in there, and maybe he was really complacent and might have taken this fight lightly. I don't know though if in the rematch Roach can win as Tank might fight and prepare this fight very differently.
So this is the first time that Tank looks vulnerable and I will say that we also underestimate Roach and the judges screw him up and make this fight a draw when it seems very clear that there is a knockdown scored by Lamont but the referee suddenly change that.
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^ Judges have to follow what the ref decides though. If he didn't intervene, judges would have given 10-8 to Roach's favor. Two judges actually gave the ninth to Davis.
I was wondering how taking a knee to interrupt the fight and have his face wiped was considered legal. The only time I know the fight would be interrupted like that is when one boxer drops his mouthpiece (intentional or not).
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Tank looks very different there, there's no swag in there, and maybe he was really complacent and might have taken this fight lightly. I don't know though if in the rematch Roach can win as Tank might fight and prepare this fight very differently.
So this is the first time that Tank looks vulnerable and I will say that we also underestimate Roach and the judges screw him up and make this fight a draw when it seems very clear that there is a knockdown scored by Lamont but the referee suddenly change that.
Tank's loss would have been a big financial loss also for the guys used to see Tank win a fight. They know they are losing it when they watched it live and Tank not able to knockdown Roach. And instead Tank almost surrender by kneeling which should have been counted as knock down.
When they the result is controversial I alraedy think Tank must have been in trouble so I look it up on youtube and upon reading the comments they are in rage.
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Tank looks very different there, there's no swag in there, and maybe he was really complacent and might have taken this fight lightly. I don't know though if in the rematch Roach can win as Tank might fight and prepare this fight very differently.
So this is the first time that Tank looks vulnerable and I will say that we also underestimate Roach and the judges screw him up and make this fight a draw when it seems very clear that there is a knockdown scored by Lamont but the referee suddenly change that.
Tank's loss would have been a big financial loss also for the guys used to see Tank win a fight. They know they are losing it when they watched it live and Tank not able to knockdown Roach. And instead Tank almost surrender by kneeling which should have been counted as knock down.
When they the result is controversial I alraedy think Tank must have been in trouble so I look it up on youtube and upon reading the comments they are in rage.
If that "taking a knee" thing was ruled as a knockdown, it could have been a win for Lamont Roach. Idiotic move for Tank Davis which could have cost him the title. If we are to base the judgement on total punches thrown and landed, Roach won that category slightly but i don't know what the judges are looking that they are favoring Davis more on this fight.
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It's all over the media today:
Dana White and Turki Alalshikh announce new boxing league
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/dana-white-turki-alalshikh-new-boxing-league-b2709626.html
Given Dana White's experience and Alalshikh's super deep pockets, this could be a big thing that has the potential of changing the old boxing scene as we know it. More details to be announced later, but it looks like they intend to create a league-style competition. I'm having a hard time imagining the top boxers would be excited by that idea, as it would probably mean having to fight more often.
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If that "taking a knee" thing was ruled as a knockdown, it could have been a win for Lamont Roach. Idiotic move for Tank Davis which could have cost him the title. If we are to base the judgement on total punches thrown and landed, Roach won that category slightly but i don't know what the judges are looking that they are favoring Davis more on this fight.
I wonder how much they paid for the referees and those idiot judges as well.
I smell a rematch between these 2 boxers.
Many didn't expect how the match will end up. With how dominating Tank is in his previous fights, many expected that it will be the same with Roach, and I also saw on a gambling website that the odds of Roach winning is at around 10.xx. That's how big of an underdog he is before the fight. For sure, many boxing fans will respect Roach now for what happened. I didn't watch those analysts with regards to their opinion to this fight, but I'm pretty sure, even they also now that Roach won on that fight.
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If that "taking a knee" thing was ruled as a knockdown, it could have been a win for Lamont Roach. Idiotic move for Tank Davis which could have cost him the title. If we are to base the judgement on total punches thrown and landed, Roach won that category slightly but i don't know what the judges are looking that they are favoring Davis more on this fight.
I wonder how much they paid for the referees and those idiot judges as well.
I smell a rematch between these 2 boxers.
Many didn't expect how the match will end up. With how dominating Tank is in his previous fights, many expected that it will be the same with Roach, and I also saw on a gambling website that the odds of Roach winning is at around 10.xx. That's how big of an underdog he is before the fight. For sure, many boxing fans will respect Roach now for what happened. I didn't watch those analysts with regards to their opinion to this fight, but I'm pretty sure, even they also now that Roach won on that fight.
Its not an idiotic move, he was hurt. We have seen it several times that a fighter is punched in the side the liver can be a painful as your knee hitting a corner of the table. its unbearable.
Some referee will even consider this as if he surrenders already. Of course Tank after a milli second realizes his belt is at stake as him being undisputed is over.
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If that "taking a knee" thing was ruled as a knockdown, it could have been a win for Lamont Roach. Idiotic move for Tank Davis which could have cost him the title. If we are to base the judgement on total punches thrown and landed, Roach won that category slightly but i don't know what the judges are looking that they are favoring Davis more on this fight.
I wonder how much they paid for the referees and those idiot judges as well.
I smell a rematch between these 2 boxers.
Many didn't expect how the match will end up. With how dominating Tank is in his previous fights, many expected that it will be the same with Roach, and I also saw on a gambling website that the odds of Roach winning is at around 10.xx. That's how big of an underdog he is before the fight. For sure, many boxing fans will respect Roach now for what happened. I didn't watch those analysts with regards to their opinion to this fight, but I'm pretty sure, even they also now that Roach won on that fight.
I think it's more of a mistake on the part of the referee and this is what WBA has to say,
From our perspective, Willis’ decision was not unreasonable or unjustifiable. He ruled in real-time that Davis had not been struck by a punch before going down, and therefore, no knockdown should be recorded. Judges, by regulation, must follow the referee’s rulings—they do not have the authority to override his decisions on knockdowns.
Some skeptics have suggested that Willis’ call benefited Davis unfairly, but we do not subscribe to that notion. In our long experience judging fights, we see no evidence of favoritism—only a referee prioritizing the physical safety of a fighter who appeared compromised by an eye injury.
THE NEXT STEP: A REMATCH?
One thing is clear: the boxing world is already clamoring for Gervonta Davis vs. Lamont Roach II. The controversy, the drama, and the high stakes demand a sequel. Now, it’s up to the promoters to make it happen.
https://www.wbaboxing.com/boxing-news/davis-retains-wba-crown-with-a-draw-and-a-rematch-looms
It's weird though, I just posted this link on the other community and it seems working. But now when I try to link it, it was deleted?
Lol, something is fishy here. Good that it has been in Twitter as well: https://x.com/ringmagazine/status/1897232925227135298
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Its not an idiotic move, he was hurt. We have seen it several times that a fighter is punched in the side the liver can be a painful as your knee hitting a corner of the table. its unbearable.
Some referee will even consider this as if he surrenders already. Of course Tank after a milli second realizes his belt is at stake as him being undisputed is over.
I would say that Tank Davis’s focus on the fight was not at 100 percent. If he had been more focused, he wouldn’t have done that ‘knee thing’ that could have cost him his title. Even if his eyes were irritated, he should have waited for the bell to sound before wiping off the grease he claimed was causing him trouble.
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Its not an idiotic move, he was hurt. We have seen it several times that a fighter is punched in the side the liver can be a painful as your knee hitting a corner of the table. its unbearable.
Some referee will even consider this as if he surrenders already. Of course Tank after a milli second realizes his belt is at stake as him being undisputed is over.
I would say that Tank Davis’s focus on the fight was not at 100 percent. If he had been more focused, he wouldn’t have done that ‘knee thing’ that could have cost him his title. Even if his eyes were irritated, he should have waited for the bell to sound before wiping off the grease he claimed was causing him trouble.
Wiping the grease off is just an excuse. He been in boxing for years, it happens all the time since their corners wipe grease on their eye browse. He knows the rules which kneeling is considered a knock down, even touching the ground is considered a knock down.
If it were Ryan Garcia kneeling, the referee would give him 8 counts. But then anyway, the fight is over and its decided NC so at least none will even feel complaining and they both get the money they fought for. They will also get a sum in their rematch.
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Latest news on the Davis vs Roach fight,
The New York State Athletic Commission has decided not to alter the draw between WBA lightweight champion Gervonta “Tank” Davis and super-featherweight champion Lamont Roach, individuals connected to both fighters told BoxingScene Friday.
Roach appealed to the commission to reconsider the 115-113, 114-114, 114-114 scorecards following the human errors committed by referee Steve Willis in the ninth round of Saturday’s bout at New York’s Barclays Center.
Washington’s Roach had landed a handful of blows on Baltimore’s unbeaten three-division champion Davis when Davis turned away from the action to take a knee, then walked to his corner, where co-trainer Calvin Ford wiped his face.
Davis, 30-0-1 (28 KOs), said his eyes stung from a hair chemical that was applied two days earlier.
https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-lamont-roach-to-remain-a-draw-as-nysac-declines-to-overturn-decision--205765
So I guess there's nothing more Roach can do on his side, but to rematch Tank Davis. Although Tank said he want to run it again, but we will have to wait as I don't see it happening as an immediate rematch.
It's just hard for Roach and his team to be taken away that victory because of the miscall by the referee but they will have to live with it.
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Its not an idiotic move, he was hurt. We have seen it several times that a fighter is punched in the side the liver can be a painful as your knee hitting a corner of the table. its unbearable.
Some referee will even consider this as if he surrenders already. Of course Tank after a milli second realizes his belt is at stake as him being undisputed is over.
I would say that Tank Davis’s focus on the fight was not at 100 percent. If he had been more focused, he wouldn’t have done that ‘knee thing’ that could have cost him his title. Even if his eyes were irritated, he should have waited for the bell to sound before wiping off the grease he claimed was causing him trouble.
This is the first time that we have seen slipped and not be 100% in a fight. So it's really hard why Tank is not focus here, did he underestimate Lamont Roach, or he is feeling some injury and just used the hair spray excuse?
And the girl that did his hair has responded and she said that she did his hair on a Wednesday.
One thing though that we didn't talk about is that this is the first time that he didn't have Calvin Ford as his trainer.
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This is the first time that we have seen slipped and not be 100% in a fight. So it's really hard why Tank is not focus here, did he underestimate Lamont Roach, or he is feeling some injury and just used the hair spray excuse?
And the girl that did his hair has responded and she said that she did his hair on a Wednesday.
One thing though that we didn't talk about is that this is the first time that he didn't have Calvin Ford as his trainer.
I could say that he wasn't fully focused on the fight. Additionally, a boxing analyst mentioned that the building he bought to start his real estate business was burned down, which might have contributed to his mental instability going into the fight.
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the building he bought to start his real estate business was burned down, which might have contributed to his mental instability going into the fight.
That could be the reason why he is not that focused compared to him from the previous fights that he is very cocky and aggressive. That latest fight for me need to get a rematch to get his ass cleared as we all know that fight was kinda boring at the end.
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This is the first time that we have seen slipped and not be 100% in a fight. So it's really hard why Tank is not focus here, did he underestimate Lamont Roach, or he is feeling some injury and just used the hair spray excuse?
And the girl that did his hair has responded and she said that she did his hair on a Wednesday.
One thing though that we didn't talk about is that this is the first time that he didn't have Calvin Ford as his trainer.
I could say that he wasn't fully focused on the fight. Additionally, a boxing analyst mentioned that the building he bought to start his real estate business was burned down, which might have contributed to his mental instability going into the fight.
And it just shows that this boxers are human as well, I mean there are a lot of things that goes into their mind before the fight and somewhat they might be influence by other things like this one.
So when the fight comes, they are not 100% on it and their mind is flying and thinking other things and it will really show in the fight like here. He almost lost it.
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For those who might have remembered that Keith Thurman has a fight in Australia, he won via 3rd round KO against Brock Jarvis. Here is the full fight,
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/XRoadSPAfWo/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRoadSPAfWo)
Obviously, Brock is not on Thurman's level, and after this win, he calls out another Australian in Tim Tszyu. The only story between him and Tim is that they supposedly to fight before until Thurman got injured and then he was replaced by Fundora. And we all know that Fundora vs Tszyu is one of the most bloodiest fight in recent years and Fundora won that fight. And he lost again to Bakhram Murtazaliev the next fight and so the hype on Tim has died down already.
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It looks like Uyk might get stripped of the WBO belt.
The WBO ordered him to fight a mandatory title defence against Parker:
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/13327564/oleksandr-usyk-wbo-orders-heavyweight-champion-to-face-joseph-parker-next
The problem is, Usyk is allegedly already in talks with Dubois' team, and he said previously in interviews that he wants Dubois as his next opponent, and I don't think the WBO's order will make much difference. I'm guessing his plan is to fight Dubois first and win the IBF belt, then win the WBO belt back and probably retire after that.
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It looks like Uyk might get stripped of the WBO belt.
The WBO ordered him to fight a mandatory title defence against Parker:
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/13327564/oleksandr-usyk-wbo-orders-heavyweight-champion-to-face-joseph-parker-next
The problem is, Usyk is allegedly already in talks with Dubois' team, and he said previously in interviews that he wants Dubois as his next opponent, and I don't think the WBO's order will make much difference. I'm guessing his plan is to fight Dubois first and win the IBF belt, then win the WBO belt back and probably retire after that.
I like Usyk vs Dubois first, this is a rematch and we want to see another rounds for this two as the first fight is controversial. For now, it doesn't matter of Usyk to have the unified belt again. He has proven in before.
And if he defeats Dubois then go for Parker for his retirement fight.
There's nothing to proved anymore as he has beaten all the best HW in this era.
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I like Usyk vs Dubois first, this is a rematch and we want to see another rounds for this two as the first fight is controversial. For now, it doesn't matter of Usyk to have the unified belt again. He has proven in before.
And if he defeats Dubois then go for Parker for his retirement fight.
There's nothing to proved anymore as he has beaten all the best HW in this era.
The Usyk rematch was the objective of Daniel Dubios while i think Usyk is more than willing to give him the rematch to settle the issue as Dubios claims that he knockdown Usyk in their first encounter so there is a hype for this rematch and after beating Danile, Usky could go on and beat Parker then retire for good as no more good fights for him in the HW division and for sure he already got the money for retirement as well.
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Edgar Berlanga trying to compare himself against the legendary Mike Tyson,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/19/0DYrw.png)
https://x.com/EdgarBerlangaJr/status/1902411577439010849
Lol, there are some fighters who have more first round knockouts too, but in the end we haven't heard of those fighters. Not sure why Berlanga compared himself to Mike. But it could be obvious that he wanted to hype his name again.
But this is just a bad way as you don't want to be controversial. Just become a fighter that you wanted to be, don't talk about the legends and compare yourself to them.
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Edgar Berlanga trying to compare himself against the legendary Mike Tyson,
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https://x.com/EdgarBerlangaJr/status/1902411577439010849
Lol, there are some fighters who have more first round knockouts too, but in the end we haven't heard of those fighters. Not sure why Berlanga compared himself to Mike. But it could be obvious that he wanted to hype his name again.
But this is just a bad way as you don't want to be controversial. Just become a fighter that you wanted to be, don't talk about the legends and compare yourself to them.
You are right; he is hyping himself up to create controversy and secure another big fight, similar to the one against Canelo. First-round knockouts aren't always a measure of a fighter's greatness; sometimes, they simply indicate that the opponents were not skilled enough to box competitively.
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Edgar Berlanga trying to compare himself against the legendary Mike Tyson,
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https://x.com/EdgarBerlangaJr/status/1902411577439010849
Lol, there are some fighters who have more first round knockouts too, but in the end we haven't heard of those fighters. Not sure why Berlanga compared himself to Mike. But it could be obvious that he wanted to hype his name again.
But this is just a bad way as you don't want to be controversial. Just become a fighter that you wanted to be, don't talk about the legends and compare yourself to them.
You are right; he is hyping himself up to create controversy and secure another big fight, similar to the one against Canelo. First-round knockouts aren't always a measure of a fighter's greatness; sometimes, they simply indicate that the opponents were not skilled enough to box competitively.
If I'm not mistaken, he might have a fight last weekend and won. But still, his lost to Canelo might be remembered as he has a lot of hype prior to the that until Canelo humbles him.
So he tries to create more hype again and hopefully him and Munguia will fight.
Love to see another PR vs Mexico rivalry with this boxers.
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Hey guys, how are you doing? How do you see the fight between Crawford and Canelo? There are a lot of predictions and debates throughout this month, I personally think that Crawford can spring a surprise, even Bivol himself gave him some advice on how to beat Canelo , that made me understand that Bivol is a real boss, the guy knows what he's doing and he's not afraid of absolutely anything, he said it out loud, that's what I like about boxing, for his part I think Canelo has prepared excellent, this fight looks very, very good.
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Hey guys, how are you doing? How do you see the fight between Crawford and Canelo? There are a lot of predictions and debates throughout this month, I personally think that Crawford can spring a surprise, even Bivol himself gave him some advice on how to beat Canelo , that made me understand that Bivol is a real boss, the guy knows what he's doing and he's not afraid of absolutely anything, he said it out loud, that's what I like about boxing, for his part I think Canelo has prepared excellent, this fight looks very, very good.
Let's wait for the official announcement yet, although it was reported that that fight might happen this September. Canelo though will have to win his fight against Scull this May and then maybe after that it will be announce by HE Turki.
Canelo has all the advantage, as he is the natural bigger guy and this is his comfortable weight. While Crawford a career 147 pounder, did go up in weight at 154 lbs won, although he didn't look good. So here, he will have to go 3 weight class, from 147 lbs to 168 lbs which might affect his performance, like his speed and endurance.
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Sad day for boxing fans as we lost one of the best Heavyweight,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/22/ldJQI.png)
https://www.instagram.com/p/DHe5UtIJ4IQ/?igsh=YWZmcTdyamNkeXh5
He passed away at age 76. Who would forget his fight with Muhammad Ali? Then came back in 1994 to beat the then champion Michael Moorer at age 45? And then turn business minded and in the late 90's to early 2000's seen in TV with his product "The George Foreman Grill".
RIP champ.
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Hey guys, how are you doing? How do you see the fight between Crawford and Canelo? There are a lot of predictions and debates throughout this month, I personally think that Crawford can spring a surprise, even Bivol himself gave him some advice on how to beat Canelo , that made me understand that Bivol is a real boss, the guy knows what he's doing and he's not afraid of absolutely anything, he said it out loud, that's what I like about boxing, for his part I think Canelo has prepared excellent, this fight looks very, very good.
You need to be naturally bigger and volume punching in order to beat Canelo. That is Bivol's trick when he beat him. And even bigger guys like Berlanga and Munguia wasn't able to take Canelo's punches. And then Crawford a smaller guy and haven't fought at super middle weight and even if he says that he is about the same height and size, still very different though when you have been walking around that weight class all throughout your lifetime.
So as much as how elite Crawford is and has a great boxing IQ, I do not think that he has what it takes to beat Canelo at any version at 168 lbs.
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Hey guys, how are you doing? How do you see the fight between Crawford and Canelo? There are a lot of predictions and debates throughout this month, I personally think that Crawford can spring a surprise, even Bivol himself gave him some advice on how to beat Canelo , that made me understand that Bivol is a real boss, the guy knows what he's doing and he's not afraid of absolutely anything, he said it out loud, that's what I like about boxing, for his part I think Canelo has prepared excellent, this fight looks very, very good.
I agree that Bivol had Canelo's number and now has the template on how to beat him. However, the proposed Canelo vs. Crawford fight is a different story. As I mentioned in another forum, Crawford needs to be fast if he wants to beat Canelo. But this fight is at 168 lbs, which is Canelo's comfort zone, while Crawford will need to add muscle, potentially compromising his speed. Nevertheless, this is still a very exciting fight to watch.
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Let's wait for the official announcement yet, although it was reported that that fight might happen this September. Canelo though will have to win his fight against Scull this May and then maybe after that it will be announce by HE Turki.
Canelo has all the advantage, as he is the natural bigger guy and this is his comfortable weight. While Crawford a career 147 pounder, did go up in weight at 154 lbs won, although he didn't look good. So here, he will have to go 3 weight class, from 147 lbs to 168 lbs which might affect his performance, like his speed and endurance.
It's a fact, although I really think it will happen in September, and knowing how Canelo is, he will want all the attention for himself, so it's very likely that it will be like that, with respect to Canelo's preparation, because he always trains to the limit, that makes me understand that he has a lot of chances of winning, but there's something that Crawford has, when he sets his mind to something he achieves it, so we will see a fight that more than anything before being about fucking strength and weight, we will have two titans who win fights intelligently.
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Let's wait for the official announcement yet, although it was reported that that fight might happen this September. Canelo though will have to win his fight against Scull this May and then maybe after that it will be announce by HE Turki.
Canelo has all the advantage, as he is the natural bigger guy and this is his comfortable weight. While Crawford a career 147 pounder, did go up in weight at 154 lbs won, although he didn't look good. So here, he will have to go 3 weight class, from 147 lbs to 168 lbs which might affect his performance, like his speed and endurance.
It's a fact, although I really think it will happen in September, and knowing how Canelo is, he will want all the attention for himself, so it's very likely that it will be like that, with respect to Canelo's preparation, because he always trains to the limit, that makes me understand that he has a lot of chances of winning, but there's something that Crawford has, when he sets his mind to something he achieves it, so we will see a fight that more than anything before being about fucking strength and weight, we will have two titans who win fights intelligently.
Yes, as reported here and many boxing forums, September is their target,
On February 2, Ring Magazine broke news that Canelo Alvarez had a deal in place to fight against Terence "Bud" Crawford in a blockbuster bout between two pound-for-pound greats in September 2025.
https://www.si.com/fannation/boxing/terence-crawford-responds-to-turki-alalshikh-tweet-canelo-alvarez-fight-deal
And Crawford has started to bulk up already as there are also video of him getting bigger and trying to be comfortable at 168 lbs. So he has the advantage to really get into that super middle weight limit and then see how his body will respond before the actual fight.
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And Crawford has started to bulk up already as there are also video of him getting bigger and trying to be comfortable at 168 lbs. So he has the advantage to really get into that super middle weight limit and then see how his body will respond before the actual fight.
The planned fight is in September, giving Terrence Crawford plenty of time to get comfortable at the 168-lb weight limit. However, I hope his speed won't be compromised, as it's his main advantage against Canelo Alvarez. This might be Crawford's last fight before retiring for good, and it could also be the biggest payday of his career.
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And Crawford has started to bulk up already as there are also video of him getting bigger and trying to be comfortable at 168 lbs. So he has the advantage to really get into that super middle weight limit and then see how his body will respond before the actual fight.
You're absolutely right , and I really like the way he's winning, because you can see he's working his muscles with weight and speed, That is, Crawford's punches will have more weight now, I hope he maintains or improves his speed, It's the only way he can get to the level. His training level must be at its best, He can't rest unless he's what he is.
Everyone is going around saying that Crawford doesn't have a chance right now. I still can't say who's better, but I like what I see in Crawford.
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And Crawford has started to bulk up already as there are also video of him getting bigger and trying to be comfortable at 168 lbs. So he has the advantage to really get into that super middle weight limit and then see how his body will respond before the actual fight.
You're absolutely right , and I really like the way he's winning, because you can see he's working his muscles with weight and speed, That is, Crawford's punches will have more weight now, I hope he maintains or improves his speed, It's the only way he can get to the level. His training level must be at its best, He can't rest unless he's what he is.
Everyone is going around saying that Crawford doesn't have a chance right now. I still can't say who's better, but I like what I see in Crawford.
this could be true. he need to get used to his weight. climbing up the weightclass is better than going down though which i think crawford will still have the chance.
dehydration causes a fighter to be weak during the fight but climbing up makes him healthier yet the speed may be affected. the riskier part is that this weightclass is his home. he will be faster and more than likely going to KO crawford.
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this could be true. he need to get used to his weight. climbing up the weightclass is better than going down though which i think crawford will still have the chance.
dehydration causes a fighter to be weak during the fight but climbing up makes him healthier yet the speed may be affected. the riskier part is that this weightclass is his home. he will be faster and more than likely going to KO crawford.
Many people who know about boxing have had the same opinion as you, there is talk of a possible knockout, but do they see Davis as that strong? I honestly see a lot of potential in Crawford, however the preparation, a new weight, all of that becomes a disadvantage for Crawford, while Davis trains freely and calmly, perfecting his punches, his speed, his strength, working on his resistance, working on his strategies, that is something that can happen, for me this fight will be very close.
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Good interview here, Canelo answer some questions that we have in my mind,
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/9y_Ae3nydi4/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y_Ae3nydi4)
Specially that we all know that him and HE Turki has some disagreement publicly. But it seems as what Canelo says, there is miscommunication. For Benavidez fight, he doesn't like him because he is disrespectful and somewhat brandish that why he doesn't like to give him that chance.
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Good interview here, Canelo answer some questions that we have in my mind,
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Specially that we all know that him and HE Turki has some disagreement publicly. But it seems as what Canelo says, there is miscommunication. For Benavidez fight, he doesn't like him because he is disrespectful and somewhat brandish that why he doesn't like to give him that chance.
He doesn't want to give Benavidez a shot at him because he knows that David is very capable of beating him and Canelo also said that at this stage of his career he could get whatever he wants so with that being said, he want easy fights from hereon.
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Good interview here, Canelo answer some questions that we have in my mind,
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Specially that we all know that him and HE Turki has some disagreement publicly. But it seems as what Canelo says, there is miscommunication. For Benavidez fight, he doesn't like him because he is disrespectful and somewhat brandish that why he doesn't like to give him that chance.
He doesn't want to give Benavidez a shot at him because he knows that David is very capable of beating him and Canelo also said that at this stage of his career he could get whatever he wants so with that being said, he want easy fights from hereon.
I also have the same speculation and I think this is the sentiments of most boxing fans. David is too big and too strong for Canelo that's why he doesn't recognized him although at the end he says that David is a good boxer. But how can we know how good he is if he doesn't want to give him a chance? And who will forget that he says that he will not fight another Mexican and then go on and fight Jaime Munguia. And if Canelo retired without fighting Benavidez, this could be like a question mark on his greatness. No doubt that he has cemented his legacy and can't please anyone, however there is one fighter that he could have fought but decided not to.
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Good interview here, Canelo answer some questions that we have in my mind,
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Specially that we all know that him and HE Turki has some disagreement publicly. But it seems as what Canelo says, there is miscommunication. For Benavidez fight, he doesn't like him because he is disrespectful and somewhat brandish that why he doesn't like to give him that chance.
He doesn't want to give Benavidez a shot at him because he knows that David is very capable of beating him and Canelo also said that at this stage of his career he could get whatever he wants so with that being said, he want easy fights from hereon.
In short, he is avoiding the Mexican monster at all cost. And the fight is very easy to make, as obviously Canelo is the A-side and everything should be in is favor like it could be 80/20 split and still he camp of Benavidez is going to accept it.
But Canelo refuses any of it, and now giving us reasons for why he chooses Scull. So that he could be twice undisputed champion? He says that he already believe in his accomplished so why do it the second time around?
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He doesn't want to give Benavidez a shot at him because he knows that David is very capable of beating him and Canelo also said that at this stage of his career he could get whatever he wants so with that being said, he want easy fights from hereon.
I also have the same speculation and I think this is the sentiments of most boxing fans. David is too big and too strong for Canelo that's why he doesn't recognized him although at the end he says that David is a good boxer. But how can we know how good he is if he doesn't want to give him a chance? And who will forget that he says that he will not fight another Mexican and then go on and fight Jaime Munguia. And if Canelo retired without fighting Benavidez, this could be like a question mark on his greatness. No doubt that he has cemented his legacy and can't please anyone, however there is one fighter that he could have fought but decided not to.
Yeah, David Benavidez is big and strong and have the skill set to beat him that is why he is avoiding him at all cost but i do hope that HE Turki would realize that Canelo needs Benavidez to further cement his legacy as he is the only one to advise Canelo on this.
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He doesn't want to give Benavidez a shot at him because he knows that David is very capable of beating him and Canelo also said that at this stage of his career he could get whatever he wants so with that being said, he want easy fights from hereon.
I also have the same speculation and I think this is the sentiments of most boxing fans. David is too big and too strong for Canelo that's why he doesn't recognized him although at the end he says that David is a good boxer. But how can we know how good he is if he doesn't want to give him a chance? And who will forget that he says that he will not fight another Mexican and then go on and fight Jaime Munguia. And if Canelo retired without fighting Benavidez, this could be like a question mark on his greatness. No doubt that he has cemented his legacy and can't please anyone, however there is one fighter that he could have fought but decided not to.
Yeah, David Benavidez is big and strong and have the skill set to beat him that is why he is avoiding him at all cost but i do hope that HE Turki would realize that Canelo needs Benavidez to further cement his legacy as he is the only one to advise Canelo on this.
This fight will eventually happen with the help of HE Turki. We all know that Canelo has sign up a 4 fight deal with him, and most likely one of those fights, beside Crawford will be David Benavidez himself.
And since Canelo is the A-side, he will demand the fight to go at Super middle weight, but I don't see Benavidez having issue going down to 168 lbs. He can still make it and probably betting division for him that at 175 lbs.
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Good interview here, Canelo answer some questions that we have in my mind,
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/9y_Ae3nydi4/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y_Ae3nydi4)
Specially that we all know that him and HE Turki has some disagreement publicly. But it seems as what Canelo says, there is miscommunication. For Benavidez fight, he doesn't like him because he is disrespectful and somewhat brandish that why he doesn't like to give him that chance.
He doesn't want to give a Benavidez the spotlight that he was wanting to. Benavidez however is almost a star though, he is the interim champ. I think he should just fight Bivol to be the real deal and all he just need to do is move down to 168. Canelo might not be able to evade from him.
But this is like Inoue vs Casimero. Inoue didn't like Casimero for his bravado. Anyone showing superiority may have to prove it. Benavidez and Casimero I think proved their worth but the money make in the fight isn't worth it for the champ.
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Good interview here, Canelo answer some questions that we have in my mind,
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/9y_Ae3nydi4/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y_Ae3nydi4)
Specially that we all know that him and HE Turki has some disagreement publicly. But it seems as what Canelo says, there is miscommunication. For Benavidez fight, he doesn't like him because he is disrespectful and somewhat brandish that why he doesn't like to give him that chance.
He doesn't want to give a Benavidez the spotlight that he was wanting to. Benavidez however is almost a star though, he is the interim champ. I think he should just fight Bivol to be the real deal and all he just need to do is move down to 168. Canelo might not be able to evade from him.
But this is like Inoue vs Casimero. Inoue didn't like Casimero for his bravado. Anyone showing superiority may have to prove it. Benavidez and Casimero I think proved their worth but the money make in the fight isn't worth it for the champ.
Yeah, might be similar scenario there. But here the difference is that Benavidez is also a champion and wanted that fight to Canelo, champion to champion. But Canelo is avoiding him like a plague for now as his next fight will be against Scull.
But maybe now that HE Turki and Canelo have their understanding on how boxing should go, I think HE Turki is going to set this up and Canelo can't do anything about it.
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Good interview here, Canelo answer some questions that we have in my mind,
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/9y_Ae3nydi4/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y_Ae3nydi4)
Specially that we all know that him and HE Turki has some disagreement publicly. But it seems as what Canelo says, there is miscommunication. For Benavidez fight, he doesn't like him because he is disrespectful and somewhat brandish that why he doesn't like to give him that chance.
He doesn't want to give a Benavidez the spotlight that he was wanting to. Benavidez however is almost a star though, he is the interim champ. I think he should just fight Bivol to be the real deal and all he just need to do is move down to 168. Canelo might not be able to evade from him.
But this is like Inoue vs Casimero. Inoue didn't like Casimero for his bravado. Anyone showing superiority may have to prove it. Benavidez and Casimero I think proved their worth but the money make in the fight isn't worth it for the champ.
Yeah, might be similar scenario there. But here the difference is that Benavidez is also a champion and wanted that fight to Canelo, champion to champion. But Canelo is avoiding him like a plague for now as his next fight will be against Scull.
But maybe now that HE Turki and Canelo have their understanding on how boxing should go, I think HE Turki is going to set this up and Canelo can't do anything about it.
One thing i was wondering though, at one time before David Benavidez move up to the light heavyweight division, he was the WBC 168-lb mandatory challenger to the belt in which the top honcho of that governing body didn't push for a mandatory fight between Canelo and Benavidez. is it that WBC is biased on that matter?
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^^ The Sulaiman's was more on Canelo nut's and that's why they didn't force him to fight his mandatory. Boxing politics as his finest. If your will remember, years ago during the WBC convention, Canelo requested that he be fighting at CW and fight their champion but it should be in a catch weight and the Suliaman immediately said yes to that.
https://fightnews.com/closing-meeting-of-the-59th-wbc-annual-convention/124393
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Can anyone help me get my head around what's going on with the WBO heavyweight belt?
It was held by Usyk and Parker got the interim one, but somehow, yesterday, Hrgovic defeated Joe Joyce and was announced WBO international heavyweight champion (?!). Is this a different belt, or did both Usyk and Parker get stripped of their belts? I haven't been following boxing lately so bit confused.
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Can anyone help me get my head around what's going on with the WBO heavyweight belt?
It was held by Usyk and Parker got the interim one, but somehow, yesterday, Hrgovic defeated Joe Joyce and was announced WBO international heavyweight champion (?!). Is this a different belt, or did both Usyk and Parker get stripped of their belts? I haven't been following boxing lately so bit confused.
Fight highlights:
Yes, as far as I know, Usyk is the regular champion and the Parker is the interim. But the funny thing is that Usyk is active, and I know that governing bodies have this interim belt if their regular champion is not that active but that is not the case on Usyk. I'm not familiar with Joyce and Hrgovic with the "international", Heavyweight champion. I have never heard that before, what I know is that another governing body has a lot of champions before, and that is WBC. With "champion in recess" perhaps similar to a interim, or a Diamond Champion as they crafted new belt if there is a big fight between two champions.
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Yes, as far as I know, Usyk is the regular champion and the Parker is the interim. But the funny thing is that Usyk is active, and I know that governing bodies have this interim belt if their regular champion is not that active but that is not the case on Usyk. I'm not familiar with Joyce and Hrgovic with the "international", Heavyweight champion. I have never heard that before, what I know is that another governing body has a lot of champions before, and that is WBC. With "champion in recess" perhaps similar to a interim, or a Diamond Champion as they crafted new belt if there is a big fight between two champions.
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From the response I got on the other forum, I understand the "international" belt is something that WBO created just to hype up contenders and make them look more prestigious, but it's got nothing to do with the "real" championship belt.
The explanation makes sense, but the concept of creating meaningless belts is just idiotic, if you ask me.
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https://x.com/DanRafael1/status/1909342883464818920
So Bivol intentionally vacated his WBC Belt, because he is supposed to be fighting Benavidez next as David is the mandatory and interim champion. Now, David is the full WBC champion.
Bivol vacated it not because he is afraid of Benavidez, but because he will be going out and fight Beterbiev for the trilogy before the end of the year and obviously, this is another big paycheck for him.
Make sense for him to pull this stunt and let Benavidez becoming the WBC champion for now.
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^^ Yes, Bivol vs Beterbiev needs a trilogy to settle everything. And HE Turki knows this that's why he is not also going to back the Benavidez vs Bivol fight for now. It's all about the money, on what fight is logical for this boxers to have a bigger paycheck than their last fight.
So with Benavidez becoming a regular champion, it's good for him to fight the next best fighter and so called defend the belt. Although if might not be good for him and his fans as it's just been handed to him. Nevertheless, I'm seeing in the future that either Bivol and Beterbiev can't avoid a potential fight with David Benavidez.
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So Bivol intentionally vacated his WBC Belt, because he is supposed to be fighting Benavidez next as David is the mandatory and interim champion. Now, David is the full WBC champion.
Bivol vacated it not because he is afraid of Benavidez, but because he will be going out and fight Beterbiev for the trilogy before the end of the year and obviously, this is another big paycheck for him.
Make sense for him to pull this stunt and let Benavidez becoming the WBC champion for now.
Not much of a surprise here. Mandatory defences rarely happen if a champion has better and more profitable options.
I think the trilogy with Beterbiev makes sense and is justified. Whoever wins can fight Benavidez next and win back the belt. And that scenario would probably work better for Benavidez too.
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https://x.com/DanRafael1/status/1909342883464818920
So Bivol intentionally vacated his WBC Belt, because he is supposed to be fighting Benavidez next as David is the mandatory and interim champion. Now, David is the full WBC champion.
Bivol vacated it not because he is afraid of Benavidez, but because he will be going out and fight Beterbiev for the trilogy before the end of the year and obviously, this is another big paycheck for him.
Make sense for him to pull this stunt and let Benavidez becoming the WBC champion for now.
But hardcore fans know that Bivol isn't avoiding anyone; it's the corrupt boxing governing bodies manipulating things to their advantage. Why didn't the WBC mandate Canelo to defend his belt against Benavidez when he was the mandatory challenger? In my opinion, the real loser here is the WBC, as they won't profit from a third fight between Bivol and Beterbiev.
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I've just learned that Usyk Vs Dubois 2 has officially been scheduled:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-14614719/Daniel-Dubois-Oleksandr-Usyk-fight-date-location.html
It will take place on 12th July at the Wembley Stadium.
Shame they couldn't get them to fight a bit sooner, but it's good to finally know the date.
I'm not sure if any bookies are taking bets yet and what the odds would be, but obviously Usyk will be the favourite.
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I've just learned that Usyk Vs Dubois 2 has officially been scheduled:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-14614719/Daniel-Dubois-Oleksandr-Usyk-fight-date-location.html
It will take place on 12th July at the Wembley Stadium.
Shame they couldn't get them to fight a bit sooner, but it's good to finally know the date.
I'm not sure if any bookies are taking bets yet and what the odds would be, but obviously Usyk will be the favourite.
It will still be Usyk as the favorite here, I just checked one sports bookies and there are still no odds. As for this fight, I pick Usyk to win by maybe another masterful fight just like what he did against Fury.
And the thing with Usyk is that he hasn't taken any damage in this previous fight. That's why he is still very strong and looks fresh. So lets wait for the official odds it might be Dubois could be a 3:1 underdog.
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I've just learned that Usyk Vs Dubois 2 has officially been scheduled:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-14614719/Daniel-Dubois-Oleksandr-Usyk-fight-date-location.html
It will take place on 12th July at the Wembley Stadium.
Shame they couldn't get them to fight a bit sooner, but it's good to finally know the date.
I'm not sure if any bookies are taking bets yet and what the odds would be, but obviously Usyk will be the favourite.
Ok, I just posted this on the other community as well.
At least we still have the rematch between the two, but this time, there's a lot at stake because Dubois is now a champion.
And with that it's another undisputed fight + Ring Magazines title. I will still go with Usyk, Dubois is too inexperience for me.
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I've just learned that Usyk Vs Dubois 2 has officially been scheduled:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-14614719/Daniel-Dubois-Oleksandr-Usyk-fight-date-location.html
It will take place on 12th July at the Wembley Stadium.
Shame they couldn't get them to fight a bit sooner, but it's good to finally know the date.
I'm not sure if any bookies are taking bets yet and what the odds would be, but obviously Usyk will be the favourite.
What do you mean sooner? They just come from a fight though, so they really need to take a rest and I think the timing is good. And it's not like going to happen in 2026. It will still be this year so no need to like get mad at the schedule this July. At least they have a date already and so fans are just going to wait for the next couple of months. Yes, no matter who Usyk's going to face in the HW division he will always be the favorite.
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Here is Ryan Garcia in the mitts,
(https://img.youtube.com/vi/ccORgZzPuTo/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccORgZzPuTo)
You can obviously hear the power in his left hook, scary if he can executed that in the fight itself and see how Rolly will take it. Romero is not known to have a good chin so I will not be surprised if Ryan can hit him and then he will go down and might not recover from that, hehehehe.
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Here is Ryan Garcia in the mitts,
You can obviously hear the power in his left hook, scary if he can executed that in the fight itself and see how Rolly will take it. Romero is not known to have a good chin so I will not be surprised if Ryan can hit him and then he will go down and might not recover from that, hehehehe.
Ryan seems to be in focus right now, and with Derrick James, I think he is going to knockout Rolly Romero in the middle to ten rounds. Ryan really looks huge and perhaps this is the right weight for him. I also saw a glimpse of one of his video's ripping Ennis, so for sure in the future if Ennis is still the 147 lbs, they will have to face each other. But it might be a difficult fight for Ryan as Ennis has a good lateral movement and power too.
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^^ I think it comes with maturity as well, I'm seeing that Ryan is really evolving from just a boxer to a somewhat more of really believing in his capacity to be a great one.
And with Derrick James still training him, for sure he will learn and re-learn his boxing skills and become a great boxer and a champion someday at 147 lbs.
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Here is Ryan Garcia in the mitts,
~snip~
You can obviously hear the power in his left hook, scary if he can executed that in the fight itself and see how Rolly will take it. Romero is not known to have a good chin so I will not be surprised if Ryan can hit him and then he will go down and might not recover from that, hehehehe.
Ryan Garcia's left hook has been his weapon of choice, delivering spectacular knockouts, especially with his left hook to the body, as seen in the Campbell fight. Imagine the impact if it lands on Rolly Romero's chin—it could be a fight ender :).
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Here is Ryan Garcia in the mitts,
~snip~
You can obviously hear the power in his left hook, scary if he can executed that in the fight itself and see how Rolly will take it. Romero is not known to have a good chin so I will not be surprised if Ryan can hit him and then he will go down and might not recover from that, hehehehe.
Ryan Garcia's left hook has been his weapon of choice, delivering spectacular knockouts, especially with his left hook to the body, as seen in the Campbell fight. Imagine the impact if it lands on Rolly Romero's chin—it could be a fight ender :).
Yes, not only Ryan, but we have seen a lot of great boxers who weaponized their left hand with this powerful hooks. And Ryan seems to have more power as he goes up in weight class and then executing it.
And Rolly doesn't have a good chin either, so yes, if it landed then it's going to be goodbye fight for Romero as he can't recover from this devastating blow.
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Here is Ryan Garcia in the mitts,
~snip~
You can obviously hear the power in his left hook, scary if he can executed that in the fight itself and see how Rolly will take it. Romero is not known to have a good chin so I will not be surprised if Ryan can hit him and then he will go down and might not recover from that, hehehehe.
Ryan Garcia's left hook has been his weapon of choice, delivering spectacular knockouts, especially with his left hook to the body, as seen in the Campbell fight. Imagine the impact if it lands on Rolly Romero's chin—it could be a fight ender :).
He developed that left hook as his main weapon and we have seen a lot of boxers tasting Ryan's power and they didn't like it as they go down. I remember that Campbell fight, Ryan did go down, but he comeback and then deliver that power left hook to the body. And he still developing that shot and so I think he will executed it against Rolly. Although the main target could be the face of Rolly as we've seen that it's not that good and has been crack by Tank Davis already.
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I'm not sure if there is a thread on Suarez fight against Navarette here. It will be in May 10 as this fight is going to be big for the Filipinos as they don't have a world champion or at least someone that will carry the torch when Pacquiao has left.
But he is going to be fighting a big Mexican brawler and somewhat Charly is old by today's standard as he is a late bloomer. And obviously he is a big underdog here but I will say that never underestimate the heart of a Filipino boxer.
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I'm not sure if there is a thread on Suarez fight against Navarette here. It will be in May 10 as this fight is going to be big for the Filipinos as they don't have a world champion or at least someone that will carry the torch when Pacquiao has left.
But he is going to be fighting a big Mexican brawler and somewhat Charly is old by today's standard as he is a late bloomer. And obviously he is a big underdog here but I will say that never underestimate the heart of a Filipino boxer.
Yup, Charly Suarez is a bit old as 36 is considered old in boxing. Though i don't underestimate his chances in this fight but i don't expect much from him though i would still be very happy if he pulls an upset. I would not bet on him on this one but rather will look for another option/market if the bookies will offer other options.
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I'm not sure if there is a thread on Suarez fight against Navarette here. It will be in May 10 as this fight is going to be big for the Filipinos as they don't have a world champion or at least someone that will carry the torch when Pacquiao has left.
But he is going to be fighting a big Mexican brawler and somewhat Charly is old by today's standard as he is a late bloomer. And obviously he is a big underdog here but I will say that never underestimate the heart of a Filipino boxer.
Yup, Charly Suarez is a bit old as 36 is considered old in boxing. Though i don't underestimate his chances in this fight but i don't expect much from him though i would still be very happy if he pulls an upset. I would not bet on him on this one but rather will look for another option/market if the bookies will offer other options.
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The bookmaker already undermined Charly, we can see it on the odds. That's got to be considered almost a sure win over Charly. Stake offers almost same odds.
Navarette has enormous KO rate so it wouldn;t be surprising to see Charly gets KOd. Even when Charly does have zero loss, he isn't going to escape the beating from a young fighter with so high KO rate.
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I'm not sure if there is a thread on Suarez fight against Navarette here. It will be in May 10 as this fight is going to be big for the Filipinos as they don't have a world champion or at least someone that will carry the torch when Pacquiao has left.
But he is going to be fighting a big Mexican brawler and somewhat Charly is old by today's standard as he is a late bloomer. And obviously he is a big underdog here but I will say that never underestimate the heart of a Filipino boxer.
Yup, Charly Suarez is a bit old as 36 is considered old in boxing. Though i don't underestimate his chances in this fight but i don't expect much from him though i would still be very happy if he pulls an upset. I would not bet on him on this one but rather will look for another option/market if the bookies will offer other options.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/04/24/U2nLZN.jpeg)
The bookmaker already undermined Charly, we can see it on the odds. That's got to be considered almost a sure win over Charly. Stake offers almost same odds.
Navarette has enormous KO rate so it wouldn;t be surprising to see Charly gets KOd. Even when Charly does have zero loss, he isn't going to escape the beating from a young fighter with so high KO rate.
Navarette is really a hard puncher, I'm thinking that this could be similar to Inoue vs Tapales fight (another Filipino). Tapales was really strong and wanted to pull an upset, but Inoue accurate punching really take a toll on Tapales as he was knockout. So maybe in the first couple of rounds, Suarez is a willing opponent that will engage Navarette, but once he taste his power, he will be soften up and this might not last the full 12 rounds.
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Navarette is really a hard puncher, I'm thinking that this could be similar to Inoue vs Tapales fight (another Filipino). Tapales was really strong and wanted to pull an upset, but Inoue accurate punching really take a toll on Tapales as he was knockout. So maybe in the first couple of rounds, Suarez is a willing opponent that will engage Navarette, but once he taste his power, he will be soften up and this might not last the full 12 rounds.
In his 39 wins, 32 of that were coming by knockout so yeah we can consider Emmanuel Navarrete a knock-out artist and i would not be surprise if Charly Suarez will not go the distance but as a Filipino i would bet that Suarez will go toe-to-toe and finish the fight standing. No other options yet in the bookies but if the odds for the fight to go the full twelve rounds then i might pull the trigger on that option.
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Navarette is really a hard puncher, I'm thinking that this could be similar to Inoue vs Tapales fight (another Filipino). Tapales was really strong and wanted to pull an upset, but Inoue accurate punching really take a toll on Tapales as he was knockout. So maybe in the first couple of rounds, Suarez is a willing opponent that will engage Navarette, but once he taste his power, he will be soften up and this might not last the full 12 rounds.
In his 39 wins, 32 of that were coming by knockout so yeah we can consider Emmanuel Navarrete a knock-out artist and i would not be surprise if Charly Suarez will not go the distance but as a Filipino i would bet that Suarez will go toe-to-toe and finish the fight standing. No other options yet in the bookies but if the odds for the fight to go the full twelve rounds then i might pull the trigger on that option.
Yeah, that's the blood of a warrior too for Filipinos as they will go out in everything and will give their best even if they are going to lose that fight. I don't know mate if you have seen "Bad Boy from Dadiangas" Rolando Navarette (not related to Emmanuel obviously). But when I saw his fights in the TV in the mid 80's he was the epitome of a Filipino Warrior. :). He was Manny before Manny Pacquiao was big for us.
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Navarette is really a hard puncher, I'm thinking that this could be similar to Inoue vs Tapales fight (another Filipino). Tapales was really strong and wanted to pull an upset, but Inoue accurate punching really take a toll on Tapales as he was knockout. So maybe in the first couple of rounds, Suarez is a willing opponent that will engage Navarette, but once he taste his power, he will be soften up and this might not last the full 12 rounds.
In his 39 wins, 32 of that were coming by knockout so yeah we can consider Emmanuel Navarrete a knock-out artist and i would not be surprise if Charly Suarez will not go the distance but as a Filipino i would bet that Suarez will go toe-to-toe and finish the fight standing. No other options yet in the bookies but if the odds for the fight to go the full twelve rounds then i might pull the trigger on that option.
Yeah, that's the blood of a warrior too for Filipinos as they will go out in everything and will give their best even if they are going to lose that fight. I don't know mate if you have seen "Bad Boy from Dadiangas" Rolando Navarette (not related to Emmanuel obviously). But when I saw his fights in the TV in the mid 80's he was the epitome of a Filipino Warrior. :). He was Manny before Manny Pacquiao was big for us.
You can go back to the lineage of Pancho Villa to the great Flash Elorde if we are going back to look at the history of Filipino boxers. And up to know they are still one of the best nationality as far as boxing goes.
It might be a tall order literally for Charly Suarez in this fight as he is facing a very good boxer. One thing that might be positive for Suarez is that he is willing to engage and fight till the end.
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It might be a tall order literally for Charly Suarez in this fight as he is facing a very good boxer. One thing that might be positive for Suarez is that he is willing to engage and fight till the end.
I agree, Charly Suarez won't go down without a fight as this is his first and hope not the last attempt to grab a world title. The fight is 10 days from now and i browse the odds, nothing changes as Navarrete is still the huge favorite while no other options yet except for the ML odds being released by the bookies.