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Title: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on November 24, 2020, 04:53:09 AM
I was planning to open this topic after the group stages but here we are...

Follow your team's standings and other stats at https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/
(no image as there are a lot of groups)

It would have been nice if we have the option to topen a poll for you to vote who do you think will win but we don't have that.
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Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on November 24, 2020, 05:13:13 AM
Match Day 4

Nov. 24, 2020

Group E
Rennes vs. Chelsea
Krasnodar vs. Sevilla
Group F
Lazio vs. Zenit
Dortmund vs. Club Brugge
Group G
Dynamo Kyiv vs. Barcelona
Juventus vs. Ferencváros
Group H
PSG vs. Leipzig
Man United vs. İstanbul Başakşehir

There are plenty of easy picks if you're going to bet here but what I'm more interested is the Man. U vs.IBFK. United lost in their previous meeting and surely they are looking to avenge their embarrassing defeat and they must do it on their home turf. Man U is currently the huge favorite at 1.29 - understandable but I don't like it as a bettor.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: hushpupppy on November 24, 2020, 01:14:31 PM
Match Day 4

Nov. 24, 2020

Group E
Rennes vs. Chelsea
Krasnodar vs. Sevilla
Group F
Lazio vs. Zenit
Dortmund vs. Club Brugge
Group G
Dynamo Kyiv vs. Barcelona
Juventus vs. Ferencváros
Group H
PSG vs. Leipzig
Man United vs. İstanbul Başakşehir

There are plenty of easy picks if you're going to bet here but what I'm more interested is the Man. U vs.IBFK. United lost in their previous meeting and surely they are looking to avenge their embarrassing defeat and they must do it on their home turf. Man U is currently the huge favorite at 1.29 - understandable but I don't like it as a bettor.

Another beautiful night is here; where football thrives and lives! The champions league groups are still up for grabs. Chelsea, Man united, Juventus and Dortmund needs a win to ensure that they will not be under pressure to qualify from the group stages.

I am rooting for the following score lines

Group E
Rennes vs. Chelsea               1:3
Krasnodar vs. Sevilla         0:4

Group F
Lazio vs. Zenit                    3:0
Dortmund vs. Club Brugge   3:1      

Group G
Dynamo Kyiv vs. Barcelona          1:1
Juventus vs. Ferencváros       3:1

Group H
PSG vs. Leipzig                           2:2
Man United vs. İstanbul Başakşehir 4:0

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on November 24, 2020, 03:31:09 PM
~ The champions league groups are still up for grabs. Chelsea, Man united, Juventus and Dortmund needs a win to ensure that they will not be under pressure to qualify from the group stages.
True that. With three matches remaining for the group stage, anything can happen. This is a crucial game for all groups. I might parlay all favorites here for $10 as the odds are just too low to even play single  ;D

I am rooting for the following score lines
Mate, I don't wanna mess with the score lines as it disappoints me most of the time. I'd rather do ML than over/under. Best of luck to you if you're gonna do it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Renampun on November 24, 2020, 10:18:25 PM
Chelsea and Sevilla made good results...
MU, Barca, PSG, and Dortmund have the upper hand and have a big chance of winning. Juve still has to work hard to win from Ferencravos.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: hushpupppy on November 24, 2020, 11:28:39 PM
~ The champions league groups are still up for grabs. Chelsea, Man united, Juventus and Dortmund needs a win to ensure that they will not be under pressure to qualify from the group stages.
True that. With three matches remaining for the group stage, anything can happen. This is a crucial game for all groups. I might parlay all favorites here for $10 as the odds are just too low to even play single  ;D

I am rooting for the following score lines
Mate, I don't wanna mess with the score lines as it disappoints me most of the time. I'd rather do ML than over/under. Best of luck to you if you're gonna do it.

It was an excellent performance all in all; with Chelsea, man utd, sevilla, juventus, and psg grinding out results to ensure their relevance in the champions league. It looks like Chelsea are through to the round of 16 already.

I agree with the scoreline struggles when it comes to betting lol. I have to admit that barca draw and Leipzig loss ruined the deal for me tonight. haha
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on November 25, 2020, 03:21:04 AM
~
I have to admit that barca draw and Leipzig loss ruined the deal for me tonight. haha
Too bad  ;D

Barca were missing a lot of key players but the replacements were equally hungry to prove their worth. I also contemplated on taking Leipzig but I was influenced by someone to choose PSG instead and it paid off. I had two parlays last night on all matches with the exception of Lazio-Zenit and they both went well.



Let's keep the ball rolling!

Match day 4 - November 25, 2020
Group A
Bayern Munich vs. Salzburg
Atlético Madrid vs. Lokomotiv Moskva
Group B
Mönchengladbach vs. Shakhtar Donetsk
Inter Milan vs. Rela Madrid
Group C
Olympiacos vs. Man City
Marseille vs. Porto
Group D
Ajax vs. Midtjylland
Liverpool vs. Atalanta

Group B (Inter vs RMA) sur looks interesting. The two teams expected to top their group are battling to get out of the bottom  ;D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Renampun on November 25, 2020, 07:23:25 PM


Let's keep the ball rolling!

Match day 4 - November 25, 2020
Group A
Bayern Munich vs. Salzburg
Atlético Madrid vs. Lokomotiv Moskva
Group B
Mönchengladbach vs. Shakhtar Donetsk
Inter Milan vs. Rela Madrid
Group C
Olympiacos vs. Man City
Marseille vs. Porto
Group D
Ajax vs. Midtjylland
Liverpool vs. Atalanta

Group B (Inter vs RMA) sur looks interesting. The two teams expected to top their group are battling to get out of the bottom  ;D
many big matches that we shouldn't miss...

my choice for bet today is;

Monchengladbach win
Man City win
Liverpool win
Inter win
Bayern win
ATM win
Ajax win
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 25, 2020, 07:56:59 PM


Let's keep the ball rolling!

Match day 4 - November 25, 2020
Group A
Bayern Munich vs. Salzburg
Atlético Madrid vs. Lokomotiv Moskva
Group B
Mönchengladbach vs. Shakhtar Donetsk
Inter Milan vs. Rela Madrid
Group C
Olympiacos vs. Man City
Marseille vs. Porto
Group D
Ajax vs. Midtjylland
Liverpool vs. Atalanta

Group B (Inter vs RMA) sur looks interesting. The two teams expected to top their group are battling to get out of the bottom  ;D
many big matches that we shouldn't miss...

my choice for bet today is;

Monchengladbach win
Man City win
Liverpool win
Inter win
Bayern win
ATM win
Ajax win

Well, if you have a good eye for betting, that's just how I would do my bets at this time, with respect to Real Madrid it is more my lifelong feelings than reason.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on November 26, 2020, 11:05:02 AM
Bad betting night for me. I lost both bets on parlay and single. Who would have thought Liverpool would be exposed at their home ground? I also had a +1 goal insurance for Shaktar but Monchengladbach just trashed them.

Congrats to whoever placed a bet on Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on December 01, 2020, 11:54:29 AM
Match Day 5 - December 1, 2020

(https://i.ibb.co/2vrFjcS/Untitled.png)

Group B:
Inter Milan is already eliminated but they can still make group B interesting if they defeat Mönchengladbach.
Real Madrid need to win this to seal their qualification for the next round but if Shakhtar Donetsk wins, well, we'll know who qualifies on Match Day 6.

Group D:
Liverpool needs to win at least one more match to qualify. They only have themselves to blame for losing to Atalanta at home.
Atalanta will most likely get all three points tonight and might be on top of the table if the other match ends up in a draw.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: hushpupppy on December 01, 2020, 08:33:56 PM
Match Day 5 - December 1, 2020

(https://i.ibb.co/2vrFjcS/Untitled.png)

Group B:
Inter Milan is already eliminated but they can still make group B interesting if they defeat Mönchengladbach.
Real Madrid need to win this to seal their qualification for the next round but if Shakhtar Donetsk wins, well, we'll know who qualifies on Match Day 6.

Group D:
Liverpool needs to win at least one more match to qualify. They only have themselves to blame for losing to Atalanta at home.
Atalanta will most likely get all three points tonight and might be on top of the table if the other match ends up in a draw.

Today is a decider night for Inter Milan; Conte needs a win or nothing away at Mochengladbach tonight to ensure that they have a small chance at qualifying for the next rounds. Also A win could take conte and his Milan boys a chance at europa league.

It is unsure what will happen to Liverpool tonight; change of tactics and squad players has brought about some little inconsistencies; it remains to see if they grind out a win at home.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Renampun on December 01, 2020, 10:33:34 PM
goodbye to Madrid from the champions league, they have already lost to Shakhtar...
shock mixed with sadness because my flagship team had to come home from the champions league, very hard homework for Zidane because Madrid's performance dropped when in his hands.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on December 02, 2020, 02:44:19 PM
Match Day 5 - December 2, 2020

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Timezone: PST

Chelsea vs Sevilla - nothing to lose in their match up as both are qualified already for the next stage.
Dortmund vs. Lazio - tricky as whoever wins is assured of qualification.
Barca and Juve should be able to win both their matches.

Man U vs. PSG - If Man U wins, they qualify. If PSG wins then Leipzig will get the job done, it'll be a three-way tie  ;D
Match day 6 will be fun for all three if that happens.



Don't wanna talk about last night's matches. I lost all my bets  >:(
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: hushpupppy on December 02, 2020, 11:13:27 PM
Match Day 5 - December 2, 2020

(https://i.ibb.co/9WgwLmB/Untitled.png)
Timezone: PST

Chelsea vs Sevilla - nothing to lose in their match up as both are qualified already for the next stage.
Dortmund vs. Lazio - tricky as whoever wins is assured of qualification.
Barca and Juve should be able to win both their matches.

Man U vs. PSG - If Man U wins, they qualify. If PSG wins then Leipzig will get the job done, it'll be a three-way tie  ;D
Match day 6 will be fun for all three if that happens.



Don't wanna talk about last night's matches. I lost all my bets  >:(

Terrible performances from martial, all he had to do was score. Shocking from Ole not to sub off Fred after psg scored. A very tactical approach not executed by Manchester united players.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on December 03, 2020, 11:39:39 AM
Another day, another loss for me (I bet on Man U) ;D

But it's more interesting now that their backs are against the wall again because of the three-way tie as I said above. As it is, PSG is on top and they're likely to beat IBFK on match day 6. Man U is second due to their goal difference advantage over RBL and they either draw or win on the last day to move to round of 16.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 03, 2020, 10:54:41 PM
Well, yes, I have a lot of faith in PSG, they are doing a good job, MU is always a great team, I think that in this December season the players are trying much more to go to the end of the year with some victories.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: hushpupppy on December 04, 2020, 05:17:34 PM
Well, yes, I have a lot of faith in PSG, they are doing a good job, MU is always a great team, I think that in this December season the players are trying much more to go to the end of the year with some victories.

I feel manchester united players have confidence issues; especially Anthony Martial, he spurned two glorious chances to put manchester united and i definitely believe it will be better. Ole has built a great team; that requires only 3-4 teams with proper consistencies to definitely challenge on all fronts. It remains to be seen if Ole can complete this dominance.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: cryptopediabd on December 06, 2020, 07:14:04 PM
Well, yes, I have a lot of faith in PSG, they are doing a good job, MU is always a great team, I think that in this December season the players are trying much more to go to the end of the year with some victories.
I have don't trust on MU. I have lots of faith in Barcelona, specially whole team members. I hope December will be great season for them. See u until next match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Renampun on December 07, 2020, 08:00:23 PM
Well, yes, I have a lot of faith in PSG, they are doing a good job, MU is always a great team, I think that in this December season the players are trying much more to go to the end of the year with some victories.
I have don't trust on MU. I have lots of faith in Barcelona, specially whole team members. I hope December will be great season for them. See u until next match.
in the EPL, MU has begun to rise, the next opponent is Leipzig...

my choice for tomorrow's bet;

Barca vs Juve = Juve
Chelsea vs Krasnodar = Chelsea
MU vs Leipzig = MU
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Alter on December 07, 2020, 10:38:55 PM
my choice for tomorrow's bet;

Barca vs Juve = Juve
Chelsea vs Krasnodar = Chelsea
MU vs Leipzig = MU

Good choices, it seems to be a correct prediction. This time looks easy to predict because there are quite big differences in the performance of the teams and also the quality of the players. Good luck, mate! I think you will win the bets for tomorrow. You choose good matches.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on December 08, 2020, 06:46:31 AM
This is it, the final match of the Group Stages.

Match day 6 of 6 (December 8, 2020):
(https://i.ibb.co/rcKzn7F/Untitled.png)
Timezone: PST

Dortmund just needs to draw to qualify.
It's a do or die game for Lazio vs. Brugge. Whoever wins moves on to R16.
Barca vs. Juve is just a match to see who will top the group. Both already qualified.
Chelsea match is a good chance for their bench as they already through.
Leipzig vs. Man U is the most anticipated match of the night. A draw is enough for Man U.
PSG vs. IBFK is the best scenario for PSG could have asked for as they are likely to win and qualify.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: hushpupppy on December 08, 2020, 10:08:07 AM
This is it, the final match of the Group Stages.

Match day 6 of 6 (December 8, 2020):
(https://i.ibb.co/rcKzn7F/Untitled.png)
Timezone: PST

Dortmund just needs to draw to qualify.
It's a do or die game for Lazio vs. Brugge. Whoever wins moves on to R16.
Barca vs. Juve is just a match to see who will top the group. Both already qualified.
Chelsea match is a good chance for their bench as they already through.
Leipzig vs. Man U is the most anticipated match of the night. A draw is enough for Man U.
PSG vs. IBFK is the best scenario for PSG could have asked for as they are likely to win and qualify.

Its another beautiful Champions league night and i believe there will be less drama. Dortmund would get a draw to go to the next stage; Lazio would get a resounding win at home against brugge.

Barcelona and Juventus would play out a 1:2 win in favor of juventus, while Chelsea would thrash Krasnodar with their B team with Kepa conceding a goal or 2.

Man United would get a win away in Germany; while psg looks most likely to lose or draw at home to IBFK from turkey who would be looking to end their champions league campaign on a high note.

Kyiv should win at home to ferencvaros; while Sevilla will get a draw at Rennes in France
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 08, 2020, 05:01:33 PM
Hey guys

I am already looking forward to the game of Barcelona Vs Juventus, the clash between Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi, without a doubt it has kept me very awake these days, the truth is I lean a lot towards Juve, it is for me a classic.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on December 09, 2020, 03:05:19 PM
Match day 6 of 6 (December 9, 2020)

(https://i.ibb.co/c27vKYD/Untitled.png)

Man U fans who are still hopeful will most likely going to watch the PSG vs. IBFK match as there's still a small chance ;D
If it remains a draw, MU is headed to the Europa League while PSG advances to the round of 16.

Group B is also interesting to follow as every team still has a chance. Real Madrid and Inter couldn't afford to lose or draw.

edit: I just read that PSG will advance regardless of the result of their match with IBFK. If the game resumes, PSG will be playing for top of the group or runner up.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 09, 2020, 05:12:13 PM
Match day 6 of 6 (December 9, 2020)

(https://i.ibb.co/c27vKYD/Untitled.png)

Man U fans who are still hopeful will most likely going to watch the PSG vs. IBFK match as there's still a small chance ;D
If it remains a draw, MU is headed to the Europa League while PSG advances to the round of 16.

Group B is also interesting to follow as every team still has a chance. Real Madrid and Inter couldn't afford to lose or draw.

What a downfall of Manchester, I can't believe they are so bad, but well that's football, I have faith in Real Madrid, they may do a very good job and can continue to climb.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on December 09, 2020, 06:05:05 PM
~
What a downfall of Manchester, I can't believe they are so bad, but well that's football,
To be honest with you, they've actually defied expectations. When the draw for the group stage was done, many pundits/fans have written them off and basically assumed they won't make it. Although they are "almost" eliminated now, I still think they made a good run.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: hushpupppy on December 09, 2020, 07:46:46 PM
This is it, the final match of the Group Stages.

Match day 6 of 6 (December 8, 2020):
(https://i.ibb.co/rcKzn7F/Untitled.png)
Timezone: PST

Dortmund just needs to draw to qualify.
It's a do or die game for Lazio vs. Brugge. Whoever wins moves on to R16.
Barca vs. Juve is just a match to see who will top the group. Both already qualified.
Chelsea match is a good chance for their bench as they already through.
Leipzig vs. Man U is the most anticipated match of the night. A draw is enough for Man U.
PSG vs. IBFK is the best scenario for PSG could have asked for as they are likely to win and qualify.

Manchester united has flopped their lines and it is a frustrating season already for Ole solkjaers and his boys, down to the europa league, a psg draw and its over for united.

Gilmour had a fantastic performance for Chelsea last night. He is a rare gem
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on December 10, 2020, 04:46:21 AM
Thanks to Atalanta and Atletico Madrid, I was able to recover my losses on Man U and IBFK. Now, some of us maybe upset of the results but let's move on to the next stage - Round of 16.

Here's the summary of qualified teams:

Seeded:
Bayern
Chelsea
Dortmund
Juventus
Liverpool
Man City
Paris SG
Real Madrid

Unseeded:
Atalanta
Atletico Madrid
Barcelona
Lazio
Leipzig
Mönchengladbach
Porto
Sevilla

The draw will be on December 14, 2020 (12:00 CET).

Atletico and Leipzig are the dark horses here IMO.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: hushpupppy on December 14, 2020, 11:22:00 PM
Thanks to Atalanta and Atletico Madrid, I was able to recover my losses on Man U and IBFK. Now, some of us maybe upset of the results but let's move on to the next stage - Round of 16.

Here's the summary of qualified teams:

Seeded:
Bayern
Chelsea
Dortmund
Juventus
Liverpool
Man City
Paris SG
Real Madrid

Unseeded:
Atalanta
Atletico Madrid
Barcelona
Lazio
Leipzig
Mönchengladbach
Porto
Sevilla

The draw will be on December 14, 2020 (12:00 CET).

Atletico and Leipzig are the dark horses here IMO.

The champions league draw for the round of 16 is done and below is the information.

(https://i.postimg.cc/1RLRvYDb/Ep-Mc4q5-XMAEXk-J5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/s14RXm6J)

I believe Bayern, Manchester City, juventus, Liverpool, Madrid and Atletico has all it takes to qualify for the quarter finals of the competition. The tie commences in February 2021. Wait for it !!!
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on December 15, 2020, 05:33:45 AM
^ I'm not sure about Liverpool because RBL is a tough team to beat.

Barcelona got a bit lucky in the draw as PSG is as inconsistent as them. We can also add the fact that PSG appears like a small team after the group stages. They reached the Finals for the very first time last season but let's see if that experience will help them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: hushpupppy on February 15, 2021, 03:33:13 PM
Tuesday ties
Barcelona ? - ? Paris Saint-Germain
RasenBallsport Leipzig ? - ? Liverpool


Wednesday ties
FC Porto ? - ? Juventus
Sevilla ? - ? Borussia Dortmund


The champions league is back this tuesday and it promises to be funfiled. What are your predictions ?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ife2020 on February 16, 2021, 03:07:45 PM
Tuesday ties
Barcelona ? - ? Paris Saint-Germain
RasenBallsport Leipzig ? - ? Liverpool

 

Barcelona can make a champions league statement with victory over PSG; While Pochetino can also prove his mettle as a world class boss by outwitting Barcelona; Who will come out on top / Struggling Liverpool will lose tonight to RB Leizpig
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on February 16, 2021, 10:24:03 PM
^ I also thought Liverpool doesn't have a chance to win against RBL but, oh boy, it seems they are a different team if they are playing in the Champions League. The match is still in play with less than 30 minutes but I'm just glad I skip betting on this match.

Current score:
RBL 0 - LFC 2
Barca 1 - PSG 2

edit: another goal by PSG. They now lead 3-1
edit 2: one late goal by Mbappé puts PSG 4-1 (that his third)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ife2020 on February 16, 2021, 10:51:04 PM
Barcelona 1:4 Paris SG
Leipzig 0:2 Liverpool


Champions league nights are beautiful and it is evident once again as last year finalist thrash Barcelona at the camp nou; while off form Liverpool team win away against german side leizpig
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on February 17, 2021, 01:46:13 PM
Today's matches:
Sevilla vs. Dortmund
Porto vs. Juventus

I'm having a hard time picking a team here. All four have been pretty inconsistent and I don't know what to expect. Maybe one or two teams will be like Liverpool who struggles at home league but excels on CL. I'll probably skip pre-match betting and see how the game goes live.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: kiwa on March 19, 2021, 09:16:04 PM
quarter final drawing result

1: Manchester City vs Borussia Dortmund
2: Porto vs Chelsea
3: Bayern Muenchen vs Paris Saint-Germain
4: Real Madrid vs Liverpool

my prediction to semifinal Manchester City, Bayern Muenchen , Liverpool
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 23, 2021, 07:51:03 AM
^ Bayern vs. PSG  is a toss up.

Why did you leave Chelsea vs. Porto? Chelsea is in a good form and confidence by players is high. It's going to be tough for Porto.

Real Madrid looks more solid than Liverpool at the moment but who knows what's going to happen in a week or two.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: kiwa on April 06, 2021, 08:15:37 PM
today match
real madrid vs liverpool
liverpool still can't play 3 center back, van dijk, martip,and joe gomez

goal keeper same quality
center back two team same bad real madrid over liverpool
foward liverpool over madrid
midfielders two team in 3 midfielder worker, but liverpool over madrid

lineup can play two team same use 4-3-3
real madrid
Courtois T. (G)
17 Lucas   
6 Nacho
3 Militao E.
23 Mendy F.

10 Modric L
14 Casemiro
8 Kroos T.

11 Asensio M.
9 Benzema K. (C)   
20 Junior Vinicius

liverpool   
1 Alisson (G)
66 Alexander-Arnold T.
19 Kabak O.
47 Phillips N.
26 Robertson A.

18 Keita N.
3 Fabinho
5 Wijnaldum G.    

20 Jota D.
11 Salah M
10 Mane S.   

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 16, 2021, 08:46:34 AM
QF is over. I'm a bit disappointed because I never won any match on the second leg but it's time to move on to the Semis.

Real Madrid vs. Chelsea
PSG vs. Man City

I don't about you but PSG deserves the title this year. They will host Man City first which is good for them. They already avenge their loss against Bayern for last year's Finals and I hope they won't lose focus.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Paragon2 on December 13, 2023, 10:15:58 AM

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/13/ENR0J.jpeg)
Manchester United is performing very poorly this season.  Despite winning, FC Bayern Munich did not perform well. 
The match was very competitive for a long time but Kingsley Coman for FC Bayern Munchen scored a goal in the seventy-first minute that left Manchester United completely helpless.  But despite attacking throughout the match, Manchester United could not succeed in any attack.  Failed at the last stage and was forced to lose.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on December 13, 2023, 02:03:13 PM
If there's anything positive to be taken from Man United's elimination from European competitions is that they have fewer matches now. At least they could expect fewer injuries and just focus on the Premier League. Maybe that could help them challenge for a top 4 finish.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: panjul07 on December 13, 2023, 04:07:18 PM
If there's anything positive to be taken from Man United's elimination from European competitions is that they have fewer matches now. At least they could expect fewer injuries and just focus on the Premier League. Maybe that could help them challenge for a top 4 finish.

Hopefully the result in UCL will not make them lose their motivation in EPL.
I cant really remember, was there a time when United got worst result in UCL than this season?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on December 14, 2023, 05:41:34 AM
How did you see the last Qualifier match last night?

Barcelona were humiliated by lowly Antwerp 3-2 even though it was a meaningless loss for them but I was annoyed that I picked Barcelona to bet on in the end they lost.

Newcastle were uncharacteristic, they played like they were tired some of the players might not be in shape so the game was so slow, despite having a 1 goal lead in the first half AC Milan were able to create two goal chances in the second half.

Dortmund vs PSG with a score of 1-1 the end of these two teams that qualify for the last 16, the same points as AC Milan but PSG's goal difference is more than Milan.

There were many other matches last night.

In last night's combo bet, it must lose because some of the favored teams lost. >:(
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Papusha20 on December 14, 2023, 11:03:35 AM

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Manchester United is performing very poorly this season.  Despite winning, FC Bayern Munich did not perform well. 
The match was very competitive for a long time but Kingsley Coman for FC Bayern Munchen scored a goal in the seventy-first minute that left Manchester United completely helpless.  But despite attacking throughout the match, Manchester United could not succeed in any attack.  Failed at the last stage and was forced to lose.

Manchester United are so short of players this season that they cannot perform well without the right players. Of course, Manchester United needs a star while the defense is strong, but the attack is not so strong. So it definitely needs a star in the attack department.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on December 14, 2023, 01:39:50 PM
If there's anything positive to be taken from Man United's elimination from European competitions is that they have fewer matches now. At least they could expect fewer injuries and just focus on the Premier League. Maybe that could help them challenge for a top 4 finish.
Hopefully the result in UCL will not make them lose their motivation in EPL.
I cant really remember, was there a time when United got worst result in UCL than this season?
I think so. No time to dig records but I read something like the most goals ever conceded and only having 1 win in six matches could make it their worst campaign yet.

When it comes to motivation, it's not like they were completely hopeless and never had a chance to qualify for R16. They scored goals and took the lead on multiple occasions but they just couldn't close out games. It would have been different if they were trashed like 2-0 or more.

Barcelona were humiliated by lowly Antwerp 3-2 even though it was a meaningless loss for them but I was annoyed that I picked Barcelona to bet on in the end they lost.
Tough loss for you eh? I try to avoid matches like this as much as possible. Since they're already qualified and will finish at the top of the group regardless of the result, there's little incentive for them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: johnsaributua on December 14, 2023, 02:33:15 PM
If only manchaster united had a better time, I mean in terms of mental readiness and players, confidence does not increase if it continues to be forced and fatal results in defeat, I agree that the final score and a strong defensive attitude (balanced formation) will be more fair, indeed the early season match with good results is what is expected but maybe in the future man united can improve with his portion until the end of the season, I'm not betting. but man united coach I think will take action and evaluate.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Martyns on January 08, 2024, 09:44:24 PM
This period is when most of the teams in the champions league are giving themselves rest,and are waiting for the next round of games in the champions league.The big teams are looking at the possibility of winning the league,while they are also looking at improving their current squad during this season's transfer window.Most teams have started improving their squad by bring ing in some new players who will help them finish the campaign well.Real Madrid,Mancity,Bayern,Arsenal, Dortmund,Barca and Inter Milan are some possible candidate to the Champions league tittle.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Asiska02 on January 09, 2024, 02:40:00 PM
This period is when most of the teams in the champions league are giving themselves rest,and are waiting for the next round of games in the champions league.The big teams are looking at the possibility of winning the league,while they are also looking at improving their current squad during this season's transfer window.Most teams have started improving their squad by bring ing in some new players who will help them finish the campaign well.Real Madrid,Mancity,Bayern,Arsenal, Dortmund,Barca and Inter Milan are some possible candidate to the Champions league tittle.

We can’t all wait for the champions league competition to be back because that is the most exciting and most competitive competition to follow up. It is full of a lot of drama that will make you curious to know what next will happen after every minutes of play in the game. All the teams that have qualified to the round of 16 are anticipating to continue their journey in the league and are all preparing fervently for it. The best teams wil qualify from this round to the quarterfinals. Based on how each team plays the round of 16 games will determine if they will make it to the next round of the competition. There are favourite teams in this competition but no team should be underestimated again because wonders does now cease to happen again and again in football.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 09, 2024, 05:18:37 PM
This period is when most of the teams in the champions league are giving themselves rest,and are waiting for the next round of games in the champions league.The big teams are looking at the possibility of winning the league,while they are also looking at improving their current squad during this season's transfer window.Most teams have started improving their squad by bring ing in some new players who will help them finish the campaign well.Real Madrid,Mancity,Bayern,Arsenal, Dortmund,Barca and Inter Milan are some possible candidate to the Champions league tittle.

We can’t all wait for the champions league competition to be back because that is the most exciting and most competitive competition to follow up. It is full of a lot of drama that will make you curious to know what next will happen after every minutes of play in the game. All the teams that have qualified to the round of 16 are anticipating to continue their journey in the league and are all preparing fervently for it. The best teams wil qualify from this round to the quarterfinals. Based on how each team plays the round of 16 games will determine if they will make it to the next round of the competition. There are favourite teams in this competition but no team should be underestimated again because wonders does now cease to happen again and again in football.

Well that's normal, in football a lot of things can happen, but in reality I'm seeing Real Madrid with many possibilities of winning the title, now I believe that if they can bring in a striker like Haaland, then it would be ideal, I don't I see another possibility, with Mbappé things are different, it is assumed that he already said no to the pre-contract that Forentino Pérez can give, now things have to focus more on improving the squad, but of course they have a team with Rodrygo , with Vinicius, Bellingham, they are very high-level players, I think that nothing more than they do anything possible, of course when thinking about a Haaland he can fit perfectly into the team, City is not doing very well in the PL, we all know what Pep Guardiola has blocked his emergence a bit, by not wanting Messi's record to be broken, by being very biased on Pepe's part and for me personally, people like that are a bit annoying to me.

Well, just like Bayern, and other teams, they grow a lot in the UCL, the reason? Maybe they are the best of the best, but in their local leagues they are sometimes not given as much importance as in the UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Martyns on January 09, 2024, 06:08:11 PM
Two teams I'm really looking forward to seeing them grow and do well in the champions league this season is Dortmund and Arsenal.For Dortmund,they finished ontop of their group in the group stage,and what really attracts me is the mumentum they have,and the team spirit that is among the players.They are a team that really want to go far in the tournament,and I won't be surprised if they get to semi final or final.While for Arsenal,they've had a little drop in form in the premier league,which makes them to Currently sit fourth on the table,but I don't think that is going to hampar their performance in the champions league,they did so well finishing top of their group also,and I hope they continue to play well till they get to the final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on January 09, 2024, 07:32:57 PM
You are putting your hope on weak teams, I do2aee any of these two teams in the final as they wouldn't be able to survive the league if they should play with Real Madrid or Bayern or even Inter. This is because these clubs that I mentioned are stronger than them. Man city will win Arsenal or Dortmund, I am looking forward to see Real Madrid win the title this season because they look more desperate on winning the league and they are the league favorite. However, nobody knows what will happen next and it is possible that surprises can be made in this year UCL competition.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on January 10, 2024, 01:19:14 PM
~ While for Arsenal,they've had a little drop in form in the premier league,which makes them to Currently sit fourth on the table,but I don't think that is going to hampar their performance in the champions league,they did so well finishing top of their group also,
Remember that that they are going to face the top teams from other groups. If they cannot win against smaller teams in the Premier league, what makes you think they could do it against the tougher clubs in Europe? With their current form, I think the best they could do is the quarter-finals. Their squad simply do not have the depth to compete on both ends.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Litzki1990 on January 10, 2024, 03:43:27 PM
This period is when most of the teams in the champions league are giving themselves rest,and are waiting for the next round of games in the champions league.The big teams are looking at the possibility of winning the league,while they are also looking at improving their current squad during this season's transfer window.Most teams have started improving their squad by bring ing in some new players who will help them finish the campaign well.Real Madrid,Mancity,Bayern,Arsenal, Dortmund,Barca and Inter Milan are some possible candidate to the Champions league tittle.
When it comes to the Champions League, the names of several big teams flash in our eyes and every season we see one of these big teams winning the Champions League trophy. This season too, the big teams in the list are going to do well in the Champions League. Bayern Munich have enriched their team Manchester City is in good form Real Madrid although lack of a good quality finisher still this team is great overall it is assumed that any of these three teams is going to be the champion team of 23-24 season. Manchester City won the Champions League trophy last season and wouldn't be too surprised if they win the Champions League final or the trophy again this season. Along with Manchester City, Real Madrid are also likely to win the Champions League trophy this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Ris88 on January 10, 2024, 04:26:22 PM
Well, just like Bayern, and other teams, they grow a lot in the UCL, the reason? Maybe they are the best of the best, but in their local leagues they are sometimes not given as much importance as in the UCL.
The difference between Bayern München in the Bundesliga and in the UCL is that Bayern München is more developed in the UCL because they get equal competition, not in the Bundesliga they always dominate every match they face so it is very clear because of the factor that several clubs are able to push further, only clubs from the UCL which is suitable for Bayern Munich..
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on January 29, 2024, 11:31:52 PM
The difference between Bayern München in the Bundesliga and in the UCL is that Bayern München is more developed in the UCL because they get equal competition, not in the Bundesliga they always dominate every match they face so it is very clear because of the factor that several clubs are able to push further, only clubs from the UCL which is suitable for Bayern Munich..
Have you checked Bundesliga standings?
Leverkusen is in the top of the table, it is not Bayern Munich. How can you state Bayern Munich has no equal competitor in Bundesliga? It is totally wrong.  :-\

Not every team in UCL is in the same level with Bayern Munich. The different thing in UCL that there is often a surprising thing. If you always watched UCL every season, you must realize there are too many surprising results in UCL.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on January 30, 2024, 11:07:49 PM
When it comes to the Champions League, the names of several big teams flash in our eyes and every season we see one of these big teams winning the Champions League trophy. This season too, the big teams in the list are going to do well in the Champions League. Bayern Munich have enriched their team Manchester City is in good form Real Madrid although lack of a good quality finisher still this team is great overall it is assumed that any of these three teams is going to be the champion team of 23-24 season. Manchester City won the Champions League trophy last season and wouldn't be too surprised if they win the Champions League final or the trophy again this season. Along with Manchester City, Real Madrid are also likely to win the Champions League trophy this season.
The most favorite candidates include Man City, Real Madrid and also Bayern Munich. I agree with this candidate. But for me, Real Madrid is still the one I most hope to win. However, this is definitely not an easy matter, because Man City is now complete with their key players, who will certainly be much different and stronger than at the start of the season without several key players. Bayern Munich too, even though they are sometimes inconsistent, they are actually very strong and definitely quite troublesome. If the club's front line is not strong, it will be quite difficult to penetrate Bayern Munich's defense. so this will be very interesting to look forward to.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Obari on January 31, 2024, 03:00:14 PM
The champions league his season is really going to surprise people because the people who we think can win the trophy will soon be eliminated,and the ones whom we weren't expecting will win it,Some persons are placing Real Madrid and Bayern Munich to be the two too teams whom they chose for this trophy,but I am seeing Durtmund  as the people who can get to the final of this competition,and win it.They dominated their group stage in a group of death and survived,and were first in their table,and with what I've seen,I can project them to be the people who can lift this trophy as well.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on January 31, 2024, 03:44:50 PM
When it comes to the Champions League, the names of several big teams flash in our eyes and every season we see one of these big teams winning the Champions League trophy. This season too, the big teams in the list are going to do well in the Champions League. Bayern Munich have enriched their team Manchester City is in good form Real Madrid although lack of a good quality finisher still this team is great overall it is assumed that any of these three teams is going to be the champion team of 23-24 season. Manchester City won the Champions League trophy last season and wouldn't be too surprised if they win the Champions League final or the trophy again this season. Along with Manchester City, Real Madrid are also likely to win the Champions League trophy this season.
The most favorite candidates include Man City, Real Madrid and also Bayern Munich. I agree with this candidate. But for me, Real Madrid is still the one I most hope to win. However, this is definitely not an easy matter, because Man City is now complete with their key players, who will certainly be much different and stronger than at the start of the season without several key players. Bayern Munich too, even though they are sometimes inconsistent, they are actually very strong and definitely quite troublesome. If the club's front line is not strong, it will be quite difficult to penetrate Bayern Munich's defense. so this will be very interesting to look forward to.
In terms of team readiness, Manchester City in my opinion has a better preparation, they have formed this team for a long time, there are some changes but the changes are not too significant.

On the other hand, Real Madrid can actually be said to be experiencing the transition of the generation of players, interestingly the young players they have also shown very good development so far.

Bayern Munich, I think they are still in the groping stage, I mean they are with a relatively new coach compared to the 2 teams discussed earlier. They also experienced some changes in the composition of the players, in short, the overall solidity of this team is not better than Manchester City.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 31, 2024, 11:32:26 PM
When it comes to the Champions League, the names of several big teams flash in our eyes and every season we see one of these big teams winning the Champions League trophy. This season too, the big teams in the list are going to do well in the Champions League. Bayern Munich have enriched their team Manchester City is in good form Real Madrid although lack of a good quality finisher still this team is great overall it is assumed that any of these three teams is going to be the champion team of 23-24 season. Manchester City won the Champions League trophy last season and wouldn't be too surprised if they win the Champions League final or the trophy again this season. Along with Manchester City, Real Madrid are also likely to win the Champions League trophy this season.
The most favorite candidates include Man City, Real Madrid and also Bayern Munich. I agree with this candidate. But for me, Real Madrid is still the one I most hope to win. However, this is definitely not an easy matter, because Man City is now complete with their key players, who will certainly be much different and stronger than at the start of the season without several key players. Bayern Munich too, even though they are sometimes inconsistent, they are actually very strong and definitely quite troublesome. If the club's front line is not strong, it will be quite difficult to penetrate Bayern Munich's defense. so this will be very interesting to look forward to.
In terms of team readiness, Manchester City in my opinion has a better preparation, they have formed this team for a long time, there are some changes but the changes are not too significant.

On the other hand, Real Madrid can actually be said to be experiencing the transition of the generation of players, interestingly the young players they have also shown very good development so far.

Bayern Munich, I think they are still in the groping stage, I mean they are with a relatively new coach compared to the 2 teams discussed earlier. They also experienced some changes in the composition of the players, in short, the overall solidity of this team is not better than Manchester City.

Without a doubt the things in these teams are the ones that sound the most so that they are the favorites to be able to go very far, as far as I think the greatest of all those that can make a Difference is Madrid , for me things can be and look like this because they have always had the experience, this means that now Ancelotti is very Focused on his team, they not only want to win the League, but they also want to win the UCL, they have very good teams, on the other Hand there is City with the Pep Guariola, who I see much more focused, things are going very well for Haaland's side, and more like the way they were entertained in Arabia, because the truth is they are believing it-

And I would say that now things are Trying to be done Differently , because one has Bayern in Their sights, Bayern is another of my favorite teams, they are Suffering in the Bundeliega next to a Leverkusen that is plugged in with victories , but in general terms Bayern is very Good.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on January 31, 2024, 11:52:47 PM
The champions league his season is really going to surprise people because the people who we think can win the trophy will soon be eliminated,and the ones whom we weren't expecting will win it,Some persons are placing Real Madrid and Bayern Munich to be the two too teams whom they chose for this trophy,but I am seeing Durtmund  as the people who can get to the final of this competition,and win it.They dominated their group stage in a group of death and survived,and were first in their table,and with what I've seen,I can project them to be the people who can lift this trophy as well.
I don't know if the current UCL is really surprising for many people. But I assume everyone must have the same favorite teams to be the candidate of UCL champion. Man City, Real Madrid, and Bayern Munich are 3 teams to be the candidates of the teams to be in the final round. There are still no other teams that can make us to feel confident about them. Even Arsenal, Inter Milan, and Barcelona look not really convincing to reach the final round. No, Dortmund is very unlikely to be in the final of UCL. However, it is just a personal view, it doesn't guarantee at all.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on January 31, 2024, 11:53:06 PM
In terms of team readiness, Manchester City in my opinion has a better preparation, they have formed this team for a long time, there are some changes but the changes are not too significant.

On the other hand, Real Madrid can actually be said to be experiencing the transition of the generation of players, interestingly the young players they have also shown very good development so far.

Bayern Munich, I think they are still in the groping stage, I mean they are with a relatively new coach compared to the 2 teams discussed earlier. They also experienced some changes in the composition of the players, in short, the overall solidity of this team is not better than Manchester City.
Manchester City has solid composition between their main and reserve players, in phase group matches Pep Guardiola losses many main players but its not problem for him how the same level with reserve players and The Citizen easily manage group standings position. I think has opportunity for Manchester City for defending their UEFA Champion League tittle in this season but depend on drawing match schedule on quarter final until semifinal round.

I doubt with Bayern Munich performance in Champion League this season, seems less opportunity for winning Champion League actually after looking their inconsistency performance in Bundesliga. Has easy opponent team in 16 round against Lazio but doubt chance for Bayern when facing Man City or Real Madrid in quarter final or semifinal round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on February 01, 2024, 10:16:00 PM
The most favorite candidates include Man City, Real Madrid and also Bayern Munich. I agree with this candidate. But for me, Real Madrid is still the one I most hope to win. However, this is definitely not an easy matter, because Man City is now complete with their key players, who will certainly be much different and stronger than at the start of the season without several key players.
In terms of team readiness, Manchester City in my opinion has a better preparation, they have formed this team for a long time, there are some changes but the changes are not too significant.
Yes, as long as Man City no longer loses their key players due to injury, then Man City will be able to get them to the final. because so far, the contribution of the main players has been very important, like de Bruyne who was absent for a long time yesterday, this really has an influence on their potential. Thankfully, now he has returned and Man City has a full main squad. So, they will definitely be able to make it difficult for other clubs to survive. So, it would be even more exciting if Man City were in the final, especially if that is possible with Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 05, 2024, 05:52:52 AM
The most favorite candidates include Man City, Real Madrid and also Bayern Munich. I agree with this candidate. But for me, Real Madrid is still the one I most hope to win. However, this is definitely not an easy matter, because Man City is now complete with their key players, who will certainly be much different and stronger than at the start of the season without several key players.
In terms of team readiness, Manchester City in my opinion has a better preparation, they have formed this team for a long time, there are some changes but the changes are not too significant.
Yes, as long as Man City no longer loses their key players due to injury, then Man City will be able to get them to the final. because so far, the contribution of the main players has been very important, like de Bruyne who was absent for a long time yesterday, this really has an influence on their potential. Thankfully, now he has returned and Man City has a full main squad. So, they will definitely be able to make it difficult for other clubs to survive. So, it would be even more exciting if Man City were in the final, especially if that is possible with Real Madrid.

Well, I would like to be able to see Madrid in the finals, you also have to consider that City when they are in the UCL is another level, things get tough, because that is where I see a Haaland, DeBruyne shine, I see them very well there, I don't know, I always have my doubts with a PSG, if Mbappé leaves, I think that's the case and it's a fact, in fact I've seen on social networks that it's a fact that Mabppé is already going to Madid, which is not It seems to me, and which disappoints me on Florentio's part, because I liked a Haaland much more than Mbappé himself.

However, I see that these guys can do well for Bayern, they have a lot of experience bringing these teams to a very high rank, and they can make the difference, in fact last season I thought that the finalists were going to be Madrid and Bayern, but things took such a different turn, that City ended up being champion, and well they are a great defending champion, they are proving that it is not just luck.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on February 06, 2024, 12:19:38 AM
Manchester City has solid composition between their main and reserve players, in phase group matches Pep Guardiola losses many main players but its not problem for him how the same level with reserve players and The Citizen easily manage group standings position. I think has opportunity for Manchester City for defending their UEFA Champion League tittle in this season but depend on drawing match schedule on quarter final until semifinal round.
If Man City has no problem with injured players, Man City has a perfect squad to reach the final round. Even, Cristiano Ronaldo stated that Man City is one of his favorite teams to win the trophy of UCL this season. So, it is clear that Man City has everything to reach the final and may win again the trophy. But we don't know if they really can defend the winning status or not.

I doubt with Bayern Munich performance in Champion League this season, seems less opportunity for winning Champion League actually after looking their inconsistency performance in Bundesliga. Has easy opponent team in 16 round against Lazio but doubt chance for Bayern when facing Man City or Real Madrid in quarter final or semifinal round.
The performance in domestic league sometimes can't determine the performance in UCL. Bayern Munich may performance unsatisfying in Bundesliga, but they performed quite well in UCL. I think we have no reason to feel doubt with Bayern Munich, they are a strong team. If they won't face Man City or Real Madrid in semi-final, Bayern Munich has a big chance to be in the final round.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on February 06, 2024, 05:13:17 AM
Yes, as long as Man City no longer loses their key players due to injury, then Man City will be able to get them to the final. because so far, the contribution of the main players has been very important, like de Bruyne who was absent for a long time yesterday, this really has an influence on their potential. Thankfully, now he has returned and Man City has a full main squad. So, they will definitely be able to make it difficult for other clubs to survive. So, it would be even more exciting if Man City were in the final, especially if that is possible with Real Madrid.
In domestic league and Champion League performance, Manchester City not get problem no longer their key players after Kevin De bruyne injured more than several months. Its important how to make one team has the same level between main and substitute players, Pep Guardiola not face much problem yet when many main players injury because the substitute player can replacing well.
Against Copenhagen, Manchester City has full team because last match Haaland had return after absent last several matches with injury, seems most danger with Man City performance in this season and their appearance in Champion League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on February 08, 2024, 11:39:04 PM
In domestic league and Champion League performance, Manchester City not get problem no longer their key players after Kevin De bruyne injured more than several months. Its important how to make one team has the same level between main and substitute players, Pep Guardiola not face much problem yet when many main players injury because the substitute player can replacing well.
Against Copenhagen, Manchester City has full team because last match Haaland had return after absent last several matches with injury, seems most danger with Man City performance in this season and their appearance in Champion League.
Even though you might say it's not that big of a problem, the fact is that the EPL has very tight competition. There are Liverpool and Arsenal who are Man City's toughest rivals in their domestic matches. And after the Man City team was truly complete, in the end Man City was able to play even more optimally.

Well, in this UCL, I think that Man City also has a big chance to advance to at least the semi-finals or even the final again. This will provide a real challenge for Man City. But this does not mean that the path will be easy. In the first Man City vs Copenhagen match, I am quite sure that Man City can excel and win, but it will not be easy.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on February 10, 2024, 11:09:46 PM
Well, in this UCL, I think that Man City also has a big chance to advance to at least the semi-finals or even the final again. This will provide a real challenge for Man City. But this does not mean that the path will be easy. In the first Man City vs Copenhagen match, I am quite sure that Man City can excel and win, but it will not be easy.
Man City is still one of the most favorite team to reach the final round. Moreover, Man City has no more a problem with injury players. When Man City plays with their best players, no doubt they will have the chance to win the match. I also agree that Man City probably reaches the semi-final at least. But I think they will reach the final round if they won't meet Bayern Munich or Real Madrid in the semi-final.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: kulkhan on February 13, 2024, 02:59:37 PM
Copenhagen Vs Man City
Defending champion Man City is Favorite today's match. Copenhagen will be slightly ahead mentally because today's match will be played in Their home ground. Possible Playing Formation : 4-3-3 for Copenhagen. (7) Cleesson and (33) Falk best players in Copenhagen. They play wonderful.

Man City Possible Playing Formation : 4-1-3-2. Man City no any player in injured. So this match they will be played fantastic there has no doubt. Moreover (9) Haaland and (19) julian alvarez will play today. Even (17) De Bruyne. They Play fantastic. I think they will major contribute to win the team in this match.
My Prediction :
Copenhagen 1-3 Man City.
And i will bet for Man City. I think there will be total 4 goal today match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on February 13, 2024, 05:35:23 PM
Well, in this UCL, I think that Man City also has a big chance to advance to at least the semi-finals or even the final again. This will provide a real challenge for Man City. But this does not mean that the path will be easy. In the first Man City vs Copenhagen match, I am quite sure that Man City can excel and win, but it will not be easy.
Man City is still one of the most favorite team to reach the final round. Moreover, Man City has no more a problem with injury players. When Man City plays with their best players, no doubt they will have the chance to win the match. I also agree that Man City probably reaches the semi-final at least. But I think they will reach the final round if they won't meet Bayern Munich or Real Madrid in the semi-final.
Their chances of being able to defend the title are wide open this season, it happens when they are able to maintain their appearance this season, especially when their mainstay players have returned after previously suffering injuries.

Manchester City and Real Madrid are the most talked about teams as well as they are the favorites to win the Champions League title. I think it is a very reasonable thing, because judging from their appearance they are good or above the average of other teams.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 13, 2024, 09:07:33 PM
Well, in this UCL, I think that Man City also has a big chance to advance to at least the semi-finals or even the final again. This will provide a real challenge for Man City. But this does not mean that the path will be easy. In the first Man City vs Copenhagen match, I am quite sure that Man City can excel and win, but it will not be easy.
Man City is still one of the most favorite team to reach the final round. Moreover, Man City has no more a problem with injury players. When Man City plays with their best players, no doubt they will have the chance to win the match. I also agree that Man City probably reaches the semi-final at least. But I think they will reach the final round if they won't meet Bayern Munich or Real Madrid in the semi-final.
Their chances of being able to defend the title are wide open this season, it happens when they are able to maintain their appearance this season, especially when their mainstay players have returned after previously suffering injuries.

Manchester City and Real Madrid are the most talked about teams as well as they are the favorites to win the Champions League title. I think it is a very reasonable thing, because judging from their appearance they are good or above the average of other teams.

You are absolutely right, for now I am watching Madrid's game, they have very good plays, ah, now Leipzig looks with a lot of energy, they are attacking a lot and putting pressure up, Ancelotti's boys cannot be outgoing with that ease that they always have What happened is that MADRID no longer comes out with that ease, now with 3 passes they are stepping on the German team's ground, for me it is a game that has very good energy, and it is a tough game and it is basically in vain to play the mistake and whatever gap Madrid leaves, Leipzig has very good players who are making the difference, and that is what I like, of course long passes have not favored them, but I like what they are doing.

On the other hand, I'm not aware of how things are going in Citym, but if they score a goal in that game, they'll surely make a short clip on ESPN to see it. I like these round of 16, we're only in the first leg, now we're missing the second back.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on February 13, 2024, 11:36:46 PM
Man City as usual is able to do their best whenever it is.
They won from Copenhagen quite easily. Starting from dominating the match to 3 goals scored to injury times. Man City players can really optimize their performance even when they are playing away in Copenhagen.
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On the other hand, Real Madrid faced Leipzig quite hard.
I think they will win easily with lots of goals. but it turns out this is wrong. They did win, but only by 1 goal. Leipzig was able to withstand quite a large attack from Real Madrid. Salute to them. In the second leg, Real Madrid must compete even more optimally so that they can win the aggregate even further and not worry.
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Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on February 13, 2024, 11:38:21 PM
Copenhagen Vs Man City

My Prediction :
Copenhagen 1-3 Man City.
And i will bet for Man City. I think there will be total 4 goal today match.
Your prediction is correct. The final score : Copenhagen 1 vs 3 Man City.
If you bet on the gambling site, you already won it.  :D

It is clear that Man City is the favorite team to be the champion. There is no chance for Copenhagen to win against them. I even think the score should be bigger.

Manchester City and Real Madrid are the most talked about teams as well as they are the favorites to win the Champions League title. I think it is a very reasonable thing, because judging from their appearance they are good or above the average of other teams.
Yep. Man City and Real Madrid have the quality of squads and also have the top coach for UCL competition. These teams must be the favorite teams to reach the final round. Well, both teams won the match today.  :)

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Papusha20 on February 14, 2024, 12:04:36 AM

On the other hand, Real Madrid faced Leipzig quite hard.
I think they will win easily with lots of goals. but it turns out this is wrong. They did win, but only by 1 goal. Leipzig was able to withstand quite a large attack from Real Madrid. Salute to them. In the second leg, Real Madrid must compete even more optimally so that they can win the aggregate even further and not worry.
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I expected more goals in this Real Madrid game, but Real Madrid's team was so competitive that a draw was more likely. The opposite side Leipzig attacked with so many attacks and counter attacks that chances of scoring were high. But due to the strength of Real Madrid's goalkeeper and defenders, Leipzig's players were unable to score. If you look at the attacks of this match, the performances of the two teams are almost equal.

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Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on February 14, 2024, 01:00:18 AM
City played well and won just as expected, but Madrid had harder time for some reason. I really expected them to have an easier win, but I guess we could just assume that they got tired from the Girona game, couldn't even play Jude (wasn't in the roster) due to injury, so I can see why they might have won barely, its fatigue. At this stage of the season, fatigue is a big deal, many of the players played near 30 to 40 games, not all but the main ones who didn't get injured did get that many games, between league, and ucl, and cup, they are nearly 30 games or maybe more. 24 in the league, 6 at group stages for ucl, that's 30 already, some cup and supercup, so its getting there. This is why most players get injured during the season, its fatigue.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Bitcoin_people on February 14, 2024, 06:55:29 AM

On the other hand, Real Madrid faced Leipzig quite hard.
I think they will win easily with lots of goals. but it turns out this is wrong. They did win, but only by 1 goal. Leipzig was able to withstand quite a large attack from Real Madrid. Salute to them. In the second leg, Real Madrid must compete even more optimally so that they can win the aggregate even further and not worry.
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I expected more goals in this Real Madrid game, but Real Madrid's team was so competitive that a draw was more likely. The opposite side Leipzig attacked with so many attacks and counter attacks that chances of scoring were high. But due to the strength of Real Madrid's goalkeeper and defenders, Leipzig's players were unable to score. If you look at the attacks of this match, the performances of the two teams are almost equal.

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/13/vDX0P.jpeg)

(Photo Collection to Sofascore)
It was expected by the Madrid fans that there could be more goals in this match but it didn't work out either way instead they won by one goal. Although the match was the most exciting and Leipzig tried enough to win the match but could not draw the game due to which Real Madrid won the first leg. However, the game was at Leipzig's home ground, which meant that they attacked well and played strongly, so Madrid could not attack too much. However, if Real Madrid perform better in the second leg and make their exciting attack, they will definitely beat the opposition and qualify for the knock out stage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on February 14, 2024, 11:46:08 AM
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I expected more goals in this Real Madrid game, but Real Madrid's team was so competitive that a draw was more likely. The opposite side Leipzig attacked with so many attacks and counter attacks that chances of scoring were high. But due to the strength of Real Madrid's goalkeeper and defenders, Leipzig's players were unable to score. If you look at the attacks of this match, the performances of the two teams are almost equal.
I expected them to win but I foresaw that it's going to be a tough match because their squad was incomplete due to injuries. They still played well after all that but the game was mired in controversy because of the disallowed Leipzig goal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on February 14, 2024, 03:17:31 PM
Actually the match was balanced, even in terms of opportunities Leipzig could actually create more opportunities, but unfortunately they did not manage to create a single goal in this match.

The only goal that could be created in this match was born from a young Real Madrid player, yes that could make Real Madrid secure victory at Leipzig headquarters.

This result makes Real Madrid more comfortable when playing the second meeting which will be held in front of their own supporters, it is an advantage for them to easily qualify for the next round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Bitcoin_people on February 15, 2024, 06:20:42 AM
Bayern Munich lost badly against Lazio in the UEFA Champions League Leg-1 match. Bayern Munich's style of play was perhaps not as good and the attacking force was not as exciting as it was not able to level the game from start to finish. And after losing the first match, Bayern Munich fell into a lot of losses, of course they have to perform better in the next match and beat the opponent team by double goals, but they will be selected in the knockout stage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on February 15, 2024, 07:07:20 AM
Bayern Munich lost badly against Lazio in the UEFA Champions League Leg-1 match. Bayern Munich's style of play was perhaps not as good and the attacking force was not as exciting as it was not able to level the game from start to finish. And after losing the first match, Bayern Munich fell into a lot of losses, of course they have to perform better in the next match and beat the opponent team by double goals, but they will be selected in the knockout stage.
Bayern Munich performance poorly in last match against Lazio and can't make any one shot on target more than 90 minutes games play. Had bad finishing last match although with 17 shots but there are not one shot or target and make Bayern Munich can't scoring any one goal yet.
Actually Bayern Munich still has opportunity for second leg match and winning above two goals will qualify to quarter final round, not close for Bayern lead to next round but they must play more aggressive on second leg match and make many shot on target than the first leg match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on February 15, 2024, 11:07:01 PM
Well, in this UCL, I think that Man City also has a big chance to advance to at least the semi-finals or even the final again. This will provide a real challenge for Man City. But this does not mean that the path will be easy. In the first Man City vs Copenhagen match, I am quite sure that Man City can excel and win, but it will not be easy.
Man City is still one of the most favorite team to reach the final round. Moreover, Man City has no more a problem with injury players. When Man City plays with their best players, no doubt they will have the chance to win the match. I also agree that Man City probably reaches the semi-final at least. But I think they will reach the final round if they won't meet Bayern Munich or Real Madrid in the semi-final.
Yes, there is no doubt if you look at the quality of Man City players. At least we will see them in the UCL final later. As for his opponent, hemm, it's still quite a mystery. I thought Bayern or Real Madrid would be one of them, but in the first leg yesterday, they were not quite satisfactory. especially Bayern Munich, they are really down at the moment. Meanwhile, Real Madrid is actually capable, but sometimes they are not able to consistently make their attacks effective. It was quite unfortunate in the first leg yesterday. Hopefully it won't always be like that.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on February 16, 2024, 11:09:30 PM
Yes, there is no doubt if you look at the quality of Man City players. At least we will see them in the UCL final later. As for his opponent, hemm, it's still quite a mystery. I thought Bayern or Real Madrid would be one of them, but in the first leg yesterday, they were not quite satisfactory. especially Bayern Munich, they are really down at the moment. Meanwhile, Real Madrid is actually capable, but sometimes they are not able to consistently make their attacks effective. It was quite unfortunate in the first leg yesterday. Hopefully it won't always be like that.
Man City has great players and coach. The squad may change, but it looks still in good form. As long as there is no many injured players, I think Man City will be in the final round. They may fight with Real Madrid or Bayern Munich in the final round. If this happens, it will be an interesting final of UCL this season. I don't expect Man City will play against a team like Inter Milan. The final this year seems quite predictable.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on February 16, 2024, 11:28:07 PM
I expected them to win but I foresaw that it's going to be a tough match because their squad was incomplete due to injuries. They still played well after all that but the game was mired in controversy because of the disallowed Leipzig goal.
Just hope that Real Madrid will really do their best in the second leg. Supposedly, Leipzig will not be an obstacle for Real Madrid to advance to the next round, but that doesn't mean it will be easy. In the second leg, Real Madrid will play home games so this is expected to be much better. And I'm very sure of that.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on February 17, 2024, 12:13:06 AM
From a bettor's perspective, what hapened to Munich against Lazio is a good thing. The odds for moneyline should be better for the second leg. I will be one to bet pre-game for Munich advancing to the next stage.


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Just hope that Real Madrid will really do their best in the second leg. Supposedly, Leipzig will not be an obstacle for Real Madrid to advance to the next round, but that doesn't mean it will be easy. In the second leg, Real Madrid will play home games so this is expected to be much better. And I'm very sure of that.
There's no need to hope for that to happen. I think the worst result is a draw but 90% a win even if they use the same line up.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on February 17, 2024, 11:20:35 PM
From a bettor's perspective, what hapened to Munich against Lazio is a good thing. The odds for moneyline should be better for the second leg. I will be one to bet pre-game for Munich advancing to the next stage.


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Just hope that Real Madrid will really do their best in the second leg. Supposedly, Leipzig will not be an obstacle for Real Madrid to advance to the next round, but that doesn't mean it will be easy. In the second leg, Real Madrid will play home games so this is expected to be much better. And I'm very sure of that.
There's no need to hope for that to happen. I think the worst result is a draw but 90% a win even if they use the same line up.
In the second leg, they will play at the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium, so this provides an independent advantage for Real Madrid and creates mental pressure for Leipzig. I'm pretty sure that in the second leg Real Madrid will also win, with more goals. They just need to focus their play to attack more effectively and strengthen their back line again. As long as their main team is all fit, including Bellingham, everyone is fit, then the opportunity to do so is much greater.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on February 17, 2024, 11:42:33 PM
In the second leg, they will play at the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium, so this provides an independent advantage for Real Madrid and creates mental pressure for Leipzig. I'm pretty sure that in the second leg Real Madrid will also win, with more goals. They just need to focus their play to attack more effectively and strengthen their back line again. As long as their main team is all fit, including Bellingham, everyone is fit, then the opportunity to do so is much greater.
Indeed. Playing at home will be always an advantage, Real Madrid must play easier. Since Real Madrid succeed to win the first Leg, I'm sure they will win the second Leg. Real Madrid understands how to exploit the weakness of Leipzig. They don't have very strong strikers, they have not too strong defenders. In this matter, Real Madrid doesn't too worried they will get conceded goals. They must focus on the attacking, they should target to score more goals.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on February 20, 2024, 09:15:51 AM
Today and next tomorrow, have four UEFA Champion League matches first leg round of 16 after last middle week had play four matches before, there are some interested matches and I am waiting with how excited match between Inter Milan vs Atletico Madrid. Inter had consistent performance in domestic league will face Atletico Madrid actually their performance not really bad in La Liga, I ge difficult for predicting which one team will win first leg match are Inter or Atletico?

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on February 20, 2024, 10:17:55 AM
In the second leg, they will play at the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium, so this provides an independent advantage for Real Madrid and creates mental pressure for Leipzig. I'm pretty sure that in the second leg Real Madrid will also win, with more goals. They just need to focus their play to attack more effectively and strengthen their back line again. As long as their main team is all fit, including Bellingham, everyone is fit, then the opportunity to do so is much greater.
Indeed. Playing at home will be always an advantage, Real Madrid must play easier. Since Real Madrid succeed to win the first Leg, I'm sure they will win the second Leg. Real Madrid understands how to exploit the weakness of Leipzig. They don't have very strong strikers, they have not too strong defenders. In this matter, Real Madrid doesn't too worried they will get conceded goals. They must focus on the attacking, they should target to score more goals.
Real Madrid are one step further than their opponents Leipzig in this round of 16. The 1 goal advantage they got in the first leg when they travel to Leipzig headquarters makes them even more comfortable when playing the second leg match. This is in line with their status as one of the favorites to become champions this season.

But even though they act as the host and have a 1-goal advantage, they must remain cautious. I'm sure Leipzig will play with all their might or appear all out to be able to win stealing goals at Real Madrid headquarters. they must anticipate the motivation that Leipzig brings.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 20, 2024, 09:12:17 PM
For today the main course is between Atlético and Inter, where my bet could be totally on Inter, Atlético is very good, but this time I will give all my credibility to a team like Inter, I think Inzhagui's team They have a better lineup than everyone and for that reason I see them better, they are also leaders in Serie A, the ATM is not bad, but I don't know, I think that for now in the UCL, I see them better.

As for the game, they are starting, Inzhagui are giving very clear indications, it is a team very focused on attack, it does not seem like an Italian team, they are in the middle of the pack attacking the ATM, I find this very interesting, good in itself , all the UCL games are very good, for me these games are very key, and so far Thuram is already making himself known with a somewhat deviated header, but I like how they are attacking, the ATM is putting up a lot of fight, but They are defending themselves quite well.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on February 20, 2024, 11:14:25 PM
Inter made it.
Congratulations to Inter for winning from Atletico Madrid in the first leg.
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The match was very tight. Both Inter and Atletico Madrid fought for the ball very tightly. However, Atletico Madrid seemed to have great difficulty breaking through their level of defense during the match. Even Inter didn't even give Atletico Madrid a chance to attack. This is a victory for Inter, but in the second leg, they still have to remain alert.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 20, 2024, 11:36:36 PM
Inter made it.
Congratulations to Inter for winning from Atletico Madrid in the first leg.
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The match was very tight. Both Inter and Atletico Madrid fought for the ball very tightly. However, Atletico Madrid seemed to have great difficulty breaking through their level of defense during the match. Even Inter didn't even give Atletico Madrid a chance to attack. This is a victory for Inter, but in the second leg, they still have to remain alert.
There is still a lot left, because the second leg is missing, but things could be very different, Inter already has something partially assured, that is to say they have one foot more here than outside, however Cholo's team is going to go with everything and will play in Spain, so psychology is very much in their favor, the good thing is that at least they didn't allow themselves to be tied in Italy, but Morata was very close, in the end Morata gave a lot of fight, in fact I don't know why the cholo didn't score Morata from the beginning, that was a serious mistake, however I think they have to make the pertinent adjustments so that they can't do things wrong.

On the other hand, for me the best player of the game was the Argentine Lautaro, and he did make the difference, that is why for me he was the best, on the other hand I would not count on Thuram anymore because I saw him slow, well it's time to see how He behaves during intermissions, but I saw him very out of time in everything.

Thuram suffers injury blow during Inter-Atletico Madrid

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Marcus Thuram was forced off at half-time in the Champions League Round of 16 against Barcelona with an adductor issue, so Inter brought on Marko Arnautovic.

The France international was trying to finish off a promising attacking move just before the break, resulting in a Jan Oblak save, but pulled up straight afterwards and needed treatment.

He held on until half-time, but was shaking his head as he walked off and it was immediately apparent he would not be able to continue.

Source: https://football-italia.net/thuram-suffers-injury-blow-during-inter-atletico-madrid/ (https://football-italia.net/thuram-suffers-injury-blow-during-inter-atletico-madrid/)

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: trendcoin on February 20, 2024, 11:45:04 PM
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The match was very tight. Both Inter and Atletico Madrid fought for the ball very tightly. However, Atletico Madrid seemed to have great difficulty breaking through their level of defense during the match. Even Inter didn't even give Atletico Madrid a chance to attack. This is a victory for Inter, but in the second leg, they still have to remain alert.

Atletico Madrid managed to stop Inter with one goal. Atletico Madrid didn't play a good game in this match but I'm sure Diego Simeone is not too upset about this score and has a good plan for the second match. Inter are one of my favorite teams this season, they dominated this game but it won't be easy for them in Spain. Atletico Madrid have very bright home statistics. I think we may see a surprise result in the second leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on February 21, 2024, 12:19:37 AM
I miss those days when keeping a clean sheet at home actually matters. There was more pride in protecting your own turf during those days. If that rule was still in place, Inter's one goal and zero goals allowed would look more impressive. Anyway, I think they can still get the job done in Spain.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on February 21, 2024, 03:23:09 AM
Atletico Madrid managed to stop Inter with one goal. Atletico Madrid didn't play a good game in this match but I'm sure Diego Simeone is not too upset about this score and has a good plan for the second match. Inter are one of my favorite teams this season, they dominated this game but it won't be easy for them in Spain. Atletico Madrid have very bright home statistics. I think we may see a surprise result in the second leg.
Atletico Madrid performed last night very poor how possibilities with 90 minutes without any one shot on target, I don't think easily  come back on second leg match by winning above two goals how bad performed Atletico Madrid difficult create shot on target.
I don't think an surprised result for second leg match regarding current statistic, but they have benefit with playing home and Atletico Madrid must win above two goals if want get quarter final UEFA Champion League spot.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 21, 2024, 05:06:27 PM
Today's pardios are interesting, I don't know how I could say which is the best to watch, for me I think the highlight will be between Arsenal and Porto, I don't know, but I see Porto much stronger, of course we've all seen How is Arsenal playing, which is in first place, they are fighting for first place with Liveprool and City, now things can be very different if we see things from another fucking perspective, we have total attention on In fact, Asenal believe that many bets will go in favor of Arsenal in the match, the most likely thing is that they will win, but the Portuguese team may surprise.

For me things could be very decisive if these two win, because the second leg will be heart-stopping, now with Barcelona and Napoli, for me these teams are at the same level, I wouldn't be able to say which team is stronger, Barcelona has The level has dropped a lot and so has Napoli.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 21, 2024, 09:16:12 PM
I miss those days when keeping a clean sheet at home actually matters. There was more pride in protecting your own turf during those days. If that rule was still in place, Inter's one goal and zero goals allowed would look more impressive. Anyway, I think they can still get the job done in Spain.

Inter's luck with the goalkeeper is unbelievable. They have had Zenga, Pagluica, Peruzzi, Toldo, Cesar, Handanovic, Onana and now Sommer
Yann Sommer even recorded one more clean sheet than he conceded for Inter this season.
Inter sold Onana to Manchester United for 50m and signed Sommer for 6m. I don't have any idea. I'm crying

Inter Milan secured their first-leg lead with a well-deserved win. All to play for in Spain.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on February 21, 2024, 10:48:40 PM
We have the match Napoli vs Barcelona now.
The current score is Napoli 1 vs 1 Barcelona. Barcelona is dominating the match but Napoli could equalize it. Both the players who scored goals are the strikers (Lewandowski and Osimhen). Since the match is already in the injury time, I assume the match will end with a draw result. It is quite good match for a new coach of Napoli. He doesn't get a lose in the first match at least.


Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on February 21, 2024, 11:24:22 PM
Update UCL Match:
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Arsenal lost to Porto. Tis is very shocking. because most of us make Arsenal as the favorite team to  win this first leg.
This goal also occurred at the end of the match. This time, Arsenal were not good enough, because they even had difficulty getting into Porto's defense. And even Arsenal failed several times to try. Porto may have unlimited access, but in the end, Porto is the one that is able to optimize the chance to score goals and win.

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/02/21/YYGE8.png)
Barcelona also has drawn math against Napoli. Barcelona was leading at first, but Osimhen was able to follow  up and the scored a goal in 15 minutes after Barcelona goal. This is  quite interesting to see both matches.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: notblox1 on February 21, 2024, 11:43:53 PM
Arsenal cant expect to go in next round if they continue playing like this again.
This was a boring match to watch but Port had better chances and they deserved to win.
As a result I lost my bet placed on Arsenal so I am not happy with final outcome  :P
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on February 21, 2024, 11:54:40 PM
Wow, unbelievable, Porto can beat Arsenal. This is something that is certainly very surprising. How strong was Porto that in the end Arsenal had to admit defeat. Hmm, this must be very bad for Arsenal who is definitely the favorite. Porto played very well too, so Arsenal were quite overwhelmed in attacking Porto themselves.

It turns out that in this first leg there were some quite surprising match results. Not only Arsenal, but also several others such as Bayern Munich and others. It seems like they haven't been too optimal in this first leg. This will be the interesting of the second leg later.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on February 22, 2024, 02:15:16 AM
It was a humiliating defeat to Arsenal if you ask me. I do not care if they have a chance to recover, I do not care if it was just unlucky or something. If you are trying to win the premier league, you have to beat Porto, the fact that they lost that game is just beyond my understanding, they are not really playing like a premier league level team at all. I can totally understand Barcelona getting a tie against Napoli, sure Napoli is not doing that well and seems like they are not all that great, but when you consider the situation they are in right now themselves, it makes sense that they would be losing that game as well, at least they got a tie at an away game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on February 22, 2024, 04:13:45 AM
Wow, unbelievable, Porto can beat Arsenal. This is something that is certainly very surprising. How strong was Porto that in the end Arsenal had to admit defeat. Hmm, this must be very bad for Arsenal who is definitely the favorite. Porto played very well too, so Arsenal were quite overwhelmed in attacking Porto themselves.

It turns out that in this first leg there were some quite surprising match results. Not only Arsenal, but also several others such as Bayern Munich and others. It seems like they haven't been too optimal in this first leg. This will be the interesting of the second leg later.
Unbelievable result match for Arsenal defeated by Porto, actually Arsenal's performance in Premier League match most fantastic but facing Porto they have losses over 1-0 and make difficult for second leg match. Arsenal won six consecutives matches in Premier league but Porto success stopping their winning trend. The same with Bayern Munich performed when defeating by Lazio, Arsenal has not shot on target and very bad for winning second leg match.

Other match Napoli vs Barcelona have draw and second leg match will be crucial both team have the same chance for qualifying to quarter final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on February 22, 2024, 01:44:53 PM
I don't understand the shock of other members with Arsenal's loss to Porto. It's one thing if you lost a bet but to think that the result is unbelievable? This is the Champions League and, from the last few years, Arsenal hasn't been that strong in this competition. They do not have a player like Henry that could turn the match around.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on February 22, 2024, 02:56:56 PM
I don't understand the shock of other members with Arsenal's loss to Porto. It's one thing if you lost a bet but to think that the result is unbelievable? This is the Champions League and, from the last few years, Arsenal hasn't been that strong in this competition. They do not have a player like Henry that could turn the match around.
I'm not surprised, especially since I saw a lot of luck on Porto's side so that they could win this match with the narrow score they created at the end of the match.

However, it is a bit disappointing and you are right Arsenal are not as strong as they used to be, they are now in transition under Arteta. Despite losing this match, they still have a chance to win in the second match later.

I hope they can play better, and if not maybe they will be eliminated early.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on February 22, 2024, 06:02:04 PM
I don't understand the shock of other members with Arsenal's loss to Porto. It's one thing if you lost a bet but to think that the result is unbelievable? This is the Champions League and, from the last few years, Arsenal hasn't been that strong in this competition. They do not have a player like Henry that could turn the match around.
I'm not surprised, especially since I saw a lot of luck on Porto's side so that they could win this match with the narrow score they created at the end of the match.

However, it is a bit disappointing and you are right Arsenal are not as strong as they used to be, they are now in transition under Arteta. Despite losing this match, they still have a chance to win in the second match later.

I hope they can play better, and if not maybe they will be eliminated early.
I was not shocked at the final result because Arsenal didn't play as people that want to win the match. They don't have the strategy on how they can break into Porto's defense, and when you cannot penetrate their defense how will they score. It was unfortunate that we underestimated Porto, and out place Arsenal higher than them, which led to the disappointment yesterday, because a lot of people must have bet on Arsenal to win the game. Arsenal have been performing very poor in champions league and that is what we should put into consideration when placing your bet on Arsenal in the champions league.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on February 22, 2024, 09:19:37 PM
I'm not surprised, especially since I saw a lot of luck on Porto's side so that they could win this match with the narrow score they created at the end of the match.

However, it is a bit disappointing and you are right Arsenal are not as strong as they used to be, they are now in transition under Arteta. Despite losing this match, they still have a chance to win in the second match later.

I hope they can play better, and if not maybe they will be eliminated early.
Actually, Arsenal fans was shocked with the match result in Champion League regarding how consistent Arsenal performance in domestic league.
But losses over one goal in the first leg can't close yet Arsenal opportunity on second leg match, they must improve performance and have to win with two margin goals if want get place in quarter final round.
Arsenal's manager Milkel Arteta must get advantage with home match on second leg, pressure on the early minute how to make easily score above two goals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 22, 2024, 09:22:16 PM
Arsenal cant expect to go in next round if they continue playing like this again.
This was a boring match to watch but Port had better chances and they deserved to win.
As a result I lost my bet placed on Arsenal so I am not happy with final outcome  :P

Disappointed. Cry more Arsenal. Zero shot on target..shame.
Arteta must think like a pilot. A smooth takeoff is fabulous, but the landing that counts.
Possession is beautiful, but the goal is to win the games. I thought Arsenal was finally learning that lesson.
And for Arsenal fans...  Don't place your trust in the team just celebrate when your expectation is met in any match.
It may be cruel to judge, but it’s valid.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Obari on February 22, 2024, 10:16:12 PM
Arsenal cant expect to go in next round if they continue playing like this again.
This was a boring match to watch but Port had better chances and they deserved to win.
As a result I lost my bet placed on Arsenal so I am not happy with final outcome  :P

Disappointed. Cry more Arsenal. Zero shot on target..shame.
Arteta must think like a pilot. A smooth takeoff is fabulous, but the landing that counts.
Possession is beautiful, but the goal is to win the games. I thought Arsenal was finally learning that lesson.
And for Arsenal fans...  Don't place your trust in the team just celebrate when your expectation is met in any match.
It may be cruel to judge, but it’s valid.
The tactical approach to the match was really poor.Keeping a player like Karl Hervetz in the match till the end of the game is something I didn't understand.The other players who could have made impact on the pitch,was left on the bench,and Arteta made just one change.He left Martinelli who was a flop on the pitch and forgot to bring in another player, someone like Nelson to come and try whether he would be able to beat the person in front of him knowing fully well that he always deliver them when things looks rough.It is a lesson,and they are lucky that they have a second chance to try again,but to me,I think Arsenal is gone already.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on February 22, 2024, 11:16:40 PM
Wow, unbelievable, Porto can beat Arsenal. This is something that is certainly very surprising. How strong was Porto that in the end Arsenal had to admit defeat. Hmm, this must be very bad for Arsenal who is definitely the favorite. Porto played very well too, so Arsenal were quite overwhelmed in attacking Porto themselves.
Unbelievable result match for Arsenal defeated by Porto, actually Arsenal's performance in Premier League match most fantastic but facing Porto they have losses over 1-0 and make difficult for second leg match. Arsenal won six consecutives matches in Premier league but Porto success stopping their winning trend. The same with Bayern Munich performed when defeating by Lazio, Arsenal has not shot on target and very bad for winning second leg match.

Other match Napoli vs Barcelona have draw and second leg match will be crucial both team have the same chance for qualifying to quarter final.
Yes, Arsenal will definitely regret it after this match. Even looking at their tired faces at the end of the match, we can already feel what they felt at that time. but what else can you do? In fact, Arsenal can only be like that, even Arsenal can be said to be very bad at playing. Did they feel that Porto would be easy to beat so that from the start they underestimated Porto? I don't think it should. However, it is true that Arsenal is performing very badly, until now I have seen that they are unable to even attack the opponent's goal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on February 23, 2024, 04:53:20 PM
I'm not surprised, especially since I saw a lot of luck on Porto's side so that they could win this match with the narrow score they created at the end of the match.

However, it is a bit disappointing and you are right Arsenal are not as strong as they used to be, they are now in transition under Arteta. Despite losing this match, they still have a chance to win in the second match later.

I hope they can play better, and if not maybe they will be eliminated early.
I was not shocked at the final result because Arsenal didn't play as people that want to win the match. They don't have the strategy on how they can break into Porto's defense, and when you cannot penetrate their defense how will they score. It was unfortunate that we underestimated Porto, and out place Arsenal higher than them, which led to the disappointment yesterday, because a lot of people must have bet on Arsenal to win the game. Arsenal have been performing very poor in champions league and that is what we should put into consideration when placing your bet on Arsenal in the champions league.
Maybe in the second leg they will be better, because later they will play at home, and they will definitely play all out to be able to win a match that really determines their journey in the Champions League this season. The choice is only one, which is to win.

They seem to be different when they are in the Champions League and when they are in the Premier League, in the Premier League I see their game more promising, while here there seems to be something missing from their game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on February 23, 2024, 06:00:51 PM
The tactical approach to the match was really poor.Keeping a player like Karl Hervetz in the match till the end of the game is something I didn't understand.The other players who could have made impact on the pitch,was left on the bench,and Arteta made just one change.He left Martinelli who was a flop on the pitch and forgot to bring in another player, someone like Nelson to come and try whether he would be able to beat the person in front of him knowing fully well that he always deliver them when things looks rough.It is a lesson,and they are lucky that they have a second chance to try again,but to me,I think Arsenal is gone already.

Arsenal had a good game, controlling the game; however, I can't blame the attackers because Porto's low block tactics made it impossible for the attackers to operate; they were extremely compact at the back, making the free flow of games impossible. Arsenal needs to improve in the second leg, score an early goal, and pull them out. This way, they can get something out of the game, but I do not see them qualifying.

I'm not sure those subs were going to impact the game in any way, honestly.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on February 23, 2024, 09:51:53 PM
Arsenal cant expect to go in next round if they continue playing like this again.
This was a boring match to watch but Port had better chances and they deserved to win.
As a result I lost my bet placed on Arsenal so I am not happy with final outcome  :P
Arsenal seemed not ready to play against Porto yesterday. They really played under performance, they made 0 shot on target. I still can't believe it, Arsenal attackers can't do anything. Yep, it was a boring match because there were not much attacking from both teams, specifically from Arsenal attackers.

However, I still trust Arsenal, they still has a chance to win in the Leg 2. It will be in Arsenal home, I am sure Arsenal will win the match and qualify for the next round.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: notblox1 on February 23, 2024, 10:05:58 PM
Arsenal had a good game, controlling the game; however, I can't blame the attackers because Porto's low block tactics made it impossible for the attackers to operate; they were extremely compact at the back, making the free flow of games impossible. Arsenal needs to improve in the second leg, score an early goal, and pull them out. This way, they can get something out of the game, but I do not see them qualifying.
Controlling the game how?
I didnt saw any good chances from them, and they had zero shots on goal, with ball possession that means nothing :P
Porto was better team and they deserved this surprise win, but they need to do the same in two weeks if they want to go in next round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 23, 2024, 10:11:33 PM
Arsenal needs to improve in the second leg, score an early goal, and pull them out. This way, they can get something out of the game, but I do not see them qualifying.


Yep. it's not over yet, but Arsenal must be careful while doing so
The Gunners have had the first leg but blew it, and the second leg will come with a lot of pressure. It's not so much about home advantage but more about home pressure.
Arsenal have never won a game at home to Porto, but they've also always lost at the Emirates.
I hope what happened in the first leg doesn't happen again at the Emirates, and they can do it and bounce back.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on February 23, 2024, 11:34:41 PM
Arsenal had a good game, controlling the game; however, I can't blame the attackers because Porto's low block tactics made it impossible for the attackers to operate; they were extremely compact at the back, making the free flow of games impossible. Arsenal needs to improve in the second leg, score an early goal, and pull them out. This way, they can get something out of the game, but I do not see them qualifying.
Controlling the game how?
I didnt saw any good chances from them, and they had zero shots on goal, with ball possession that means nothing :P
Porto was better team and they deserved this surprise win, but they need to do the same in two weeks if they want to go in next round.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Arsenal  only had the ball, but wasn't even able to pass to the back lines of Porto. This means that their ball control was very bad. Oh, mentality and others things' here, were also bad enough. We, in the football match, always need victory at the first thing, and good performance is after the victory. No matter how good a club playing, but if they don't win, this means nothing.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on February 24, 2024, 03:27:20 PM
Arsenal needs to improve in the second leg, score an early goal, and pull them out. This way, they can get something out of the game, but I do not see them qualifying.


Yep. it's not over yet, but Arsenal must be careful while doing so
The Gunners have had the first leg but blew it, and the second leg will come with a lot of pressure. It's not so much about home advantage but more about home pressure.
Arsenal have never won a game at home to Porto, but they've also always lost at the Emirates.
I hope what happened in the first leg doesn't happen again at the Emirates, and they can do it and bounce back.
Arsenal's chances of qualifying for the next round are still great, provided they can play as well as possible in the second leg later. Otherwise they might be eliminated from the Champions League. They must be able to create a quick goal to equalize the aggregate first, after that they can play more comfortably.

But on the other hand Porto themselves must have targeted at least a draw in this match. And thus maybe they will focus more on their defense rather than having to come out to attack. But it's all uncertain because this is still a prediction and when the match later anything can happen.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Martyns on February 26, 2024, 11:48:29 PM
I'm not surprised, especially since I saw a lot of luck on Porto's side so that they could win this match with the narrow score they created at the end of the match.

However, it is a bit disappointing and you are right Arsenal are not as strong as they used to be, they are now in transition under Arteta. Despite losing this match, they still have a chance to win in the second match later.

I hope they can play better, and if not maybe they will be eliminated early.
Actually, Arsenal fans was shocked with the match result in Champion League regarding how consistent Arsenal performance in domestic league.
But losses over one goal in the first leg can't close yet Arsenal opportunity on second leg match, they must improve performance and have to win with two margin goals if want get place in quarter final round.
Arsenal's manager Milkel Arteta must get advantage with home match on second leg, pressure on the early minute how to make easily score above two goals.
I believe Arsenal have what it takes to qualify for the the next round which is the qualter final of the competition.I believe they can win Porto at Emirates stadium and get to the next stage.They were beaten by Porto because they lacked that experience,and how to play against a strong side like that in the Champions league round of 16,and I think history also had a way of playing it role in their loss.They have not won or qualified from the round of 16 for a couple number of years now,but the jinx might get broken at the Emirate stadium where Arsenal will be all out for the three points and to score two goals past Porto.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 27, 2024, 09:28:50 PM

But on the other hand Porto themselves must have targeted at least a draw in this match. And thus maybe they will focus more on their defense rather than having to come out to attack. But it's all uncertain because this is still a prediction and when the match later anything can happen.

The norm for all coaches is to give their best in home games as home advantage, but let's not celebrate now and keep preparing to face Arsenal at the Emirates.
To be precise, come to the Emirates for the second leg and finish the job.
And a draw is a realistic target as they have Pepe as their captain.
Pepe is still putting in elite performances in 2024. Pepe at this age... The older spicy ginger.
A high-quality professional respected by everyone.
Pepe continues to be one of the few people who carry the club's mystique.
I bet he's not talked about enough because he is a defender.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on February 27, 2024, 11:18:25 PM
Controlling the game how?
I think he means "dominating" the match. It refers to the total shots and the ball possessions.  :D


I didnt saw any good chances from them, and they had zero shots on goal, with ball possession that means nothing :P
Porto was better team and they deserved this surprise win, but they need to do the same in two weeks if they want to go in next round.
It is true. Arsenal made 0 shot on target. We can't expect them to make a goal if they do the same way in the next match. I agree that Porto deserves to win the match, they truly made great efforts. They have 2 shots on target from total 8 shot attempts.

Arsenal  only had the ball, but wasn't even able to pass to the back lines of Porto. This means that their ball control was very bad.
Yep. They were only dominating the ball possessions, but they have no good chance for scoring goals.
They have good ball control, they only have bad shoot accuracy.  ;)

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on February 28, 2024, 12:39:49 AM

I didnt saw any good chances from them, and they had zero shots on goal, with ball possession that means nothing :P
Porto was better team and they deserved this surprise win, but they need to do the same in two weeks if they want to go in next round.
It is true. Arsenal made 0 shot on target. We can't expect them to make a goal if they do the same way in the next match. I agree that Porto deserves to win the match, they truly made great efforts. They have 2 shots on target from total 8 shot attempts.

Porto would maintain its low block defensive tactics in the second leg, and Arsenal's best chance of breaking through would be to use G. Jesus up front to sprint in between those narrow spaces with his pace; Kai Havertz was too weak to run in between those thin spaces, this way they will be able to create chances and probably pull an early goal, this way they could get something out of the game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on February 28, 2024, 03:26:06 AM
It is true. Arsenal made 0 shot on target. We can't expect them to make a goal if they do the same way in the next match. I agree that Porto deserves to win the match, they truly made great efforts. They have 2 shots on target from total 8 shot attempts.
I can't believe it with Arsenal quit well performance in domestic league and most productivities teams for scoring goal but 0 shots on target when facing FC Porto on first leg of Champion League knock out round.
Currently before facing FC Porto, Arsenal made 15 goals of 3 last matches in Premier League but their performance not effective in Champion League when facing Porto. I don't enough sure with Arsenal has opportunity for second leg match with Porto will full defensive on second leg match and make Arsenal will get another zero shots on target again?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 28, 2024, 09:55:38 AM
In fact, in the group stage, the majority of football fans began to have high hopes for Bayern as part of the list of teams that would compete in the race for the UCL title. but now it seems everyone is starting to doubt Bayern after seeing Bayern lose to Lazio in the round of 16 first leg. And yes, that makes sense. But I personally still think that Bayern will turn things around and qualify for the next stage by beating Lazio in the second leg.

But I also doubt that Bayern will be the team that has a chance of winning the UCL title this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on February 28, 2024, 08:01:19 PM
In fact, in the group stage, the majority of football fans began to have high hopes for Bayern as part of the list of teams that would compete in the race for the UCL title. but now it seems everyone is starting to doubt Bayern after seeing Bayern lose to Lazio in the round of 16 first leg. And yes, that makes sense. But I personally still think that Bayern will turn things around and qualify for the next stage by beating Lazio in the second leg.

But I also doubt that Bayern will be the team that has a chance of winning the UCL title this season.
Yes Bayern Munich is one of the favorites to win, but unfortunately they did not show that they deserve to be champions, even now they must be behind Lazio on aggregate.

But even so their chances of turning things around are still there, it's just that it will be more difficult than them. I'm also starting to doubt them now. Maybe they can qualify and turn things around in this round, but after that I doubt them because the opponents they will face may be better than their current opponents.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 28, 2024, 09:07:56 PM
In fact, in the group stage, the majority of football fans began to have high hopes for Bayern as part of the list of teams that would compete in the race for the UCL title. but now it seems everyone is starting to doubt Bayern after seeing Bayern lose to Lazio in the round of 16 first leg. And yes, that makes sense. But I personally still think that Bayern will turn things around and qualify for the next stage by beating Lazio in the second leg.

But I also doubt that Bayern will be the team that has a chance of winning the UCL title this season.
Yes Bayern Munich is one of the favorites to win, but unfortunately they did not show that they deserve to be champions, even now they must be behind Lazio on aggregate.

But even so their chances of turning things around are still there, it's just that it will be more difficult than them. I'm also starting to doubt them now. Maybe they can qualify and turn things around in this round, but after that I doubt them because the opponents they will face may be better than their current opponents.

Well, I think that Bayern will improve more and more, what happens is that Bayern for now has a very big emotional blow because they have been affected because Leverkusen and a team that has run over them as if it were a steamroller and This has made things different for them, because they have always been champions of Germany and now they are taking away the Bundeliga is something that affects their way of playing and everything, I could think that things are more difficult, It is now, the whole world was expecting that Dormtund was the team that was going to make the difference, but we see that it was not like that and that things can be different.

Leverkusen is a team that now has everything to be champions and that hits the ego very hard, they also have very good players playing, that is what has affected them the most, it is not easy for them to accept that their leadership is taken away like this almost from night to morning.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on February 29, 2024, 04:53:52 AM
Well, I think that Bayern will improve more and more, what happens is that Bayern for now has a very big emotional blow because they have been affected because Leverkusen and a team that has run over them as if it were a steamroller and This has made things different for them, because they have always been champions of Germany and now they are taking away the Bundeliga is something that affects their way of playing and everything, I could think that things are more difficult, It is now, the whole world was expecting that Dormtund was the team that was going to make the difference, but we see that it was not like that and that things can be different.

I just can't agree with this in every sense. Bayern Munich isn't affected emotionally with the outclass of other teams, because they clearly understands that the title has slipped through their hands. The truth behind Bayern Munich's poor performance this season lies in the disunity and problems within their locker room. Thomas Tuchel has really caused chaos for the team.

I wouldn't be surprised to see players like Muller, Matthijs de Ligt, and Kimmich leave at the end of the season. Things haven't been working too well with the coach and the few players I mentioned. The disunity has shattered the bond, trust, and the ability to surpass the opposition of other teams. Sadio Mane was the first to leave the very moment Tuchel stepped in, providing some information already.

We have to understand that Bayern Munich has a very strong team, but the locker room isn't at peace.

Leverkusen is a team that now has everything to be champions and that hits the ego very hard, they also have very good players playing, that is what has affected them the most, it is not easy for them to accept that their leadership is taken away like this almost from night to morning.

Many underperforming teams today need the right coach to boost the confidence of existing players. The way a coach communicates and interacts with the players is crucial, as it greatly influences team performance. Leverkusen, in the last season, had average players, but with unity and boldness, they are now perceived as good players. Surely, the league is within their grasp, and I believe they have what it takes to win the Europa League ahead of Liverpool. They might end up securing 2-3 trophies this season, who knows?.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on February 29, 2024, 11:44:57 AM
Yes Bayern Munich is one of the favorites to win, but unfortunately they did not show that they deserve to be champions, even now they must be behind Lazio on aggregate.

But even so their chances of turning things around are still there, it's just that it will be more difficult than them. I'm also starting to doubt them now. Maybe they can qualify and turn things around in this round, but after that I doubt them because the opponents they will face may be better than their current opponents.

Well, I think that Bayern will improve more and more, what happens is that Bayern for now has a very big emotional blow because they have been affected because Leverkusen and a team that has run over them as if it were a steamroller and This has made things different for them, because they have always been champions of Germany and now they are taking away the Bundeliga is something that affects their way of playing and everything, I could think that things are more difficult, It is now, the whole world was expecting that Dormtund was the team that was going to make the difference, but we see that it was not like that and that things can be different.

Leverkusen is a team that now has everything to be champions and that hits the ego very hard, they also have very good players playing, that is what has affected them the most, it is not easy for them to accept that their leadership is taken away like this almost from night to morning.
I don't think it's because Leverkusen are slowly eroding their mentality, but it's their own fault for not being able to improve more this season, the result is what we see now, they are struggling in the Bundesliga and they are also struggling in the Champions League.

In the Bundesliga it is very difficult to catch Leverkusen and they are likely to have to give up the title they have held. But in the Champions League, the opportunity is still there, it's just that they must be able to utilize it very well, do not let the mistakes they made in the first leg be repeated in this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on February 29, 2024, 01:03:17 PM
Many underperforming teams today need the right coach to boost the confidence of existing players. The way a coach communicates and interacts with the players is crucial, as it greatly influences team performance. Leverkusen, in the last season, had average players, but with unity and boldness, they are now perceived as good players. Surely, the league is within their grasp, and I believe they have what it takes to win the Europa League ahead of Liverpool. They might end up securing 2-3 trophies this season, who knows?.
At least this is the result of Leverkusen's hard training which has always been underestimated from year to year until now Leverkusen has managed to get up and slap everyone who underestimates Leverkusen's strength. Usually Bayern Munich leads the match from year to year but currently Bayer Leverkusen has managed to lead the standings by a distance quite a far point.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 29, 2024, 03:39:04 PM
In fact, in the group stage, the majority of football fans began to have high hopes for Bayern as part of the list of teams that would compete in the race for the UCL title. but now it seems everyone is starting to doubt Bayern after seeing Bayern lose to Lazio in the round of 16 first leg. And yes, that makes sense. But I personally still think that Bayern will turn things around and qualify for the next stage by beating Lazio in the second leg.

But I also doubt that Bayern will be the team that has a chance of winning the UCL title this season.
Yes Bayern Munich is one of the favorites to win, but unfortunately they did not show that they deserve to be champions, even now they must be behind Lazio on aggregate.

But even so their chances of turning things around are still there, it's just that it will be more difficult than them. I'm also starting to doubt them now. Maybe they can qualify and turn things around in this round, but after that I doubt them because the opponents they will face may be better than their current opponents.
Well maybe Bayern will just repeat what they got last season in the UCL. Last season, Bayern were only able to reach the quarter-finals. And maybe this season will be the same. because even against Lazio they would be overwhelmed. So of course Bayern will have more difficulty when facing a stronger team in the quarter-finals. But if Bayern doesn't qualify for the quarter-finals it won't be a surprise either. Because they also lost in the first leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: notblox1 on March 01, 2024, 11:39:18 AM
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There is an amazing prediction competition sponsored by Rollbit and managed by buwaytress, with great rewards.
All you need is to pay small participation fee, and make Supebru and google account for posting predictions each round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on March 01, 2024, 12:02:34 PM
I can't believe it with Arsenal quit well performance in domestic league and most productivities teams for scoring goal but 0 shots on target when facing FC Porto on first leg of Champion League knock out round.
Currently before facing FC Porto, Arsenal made 15 goals of 3 last matches in Premier League but their performance not effective in Champion League when facing Porto. I don't enough sure with Arsenal has opportunity for second leg match with Porto will full defensive on second leg match and make Arsenal will get another zero shots on target again?

As an Arsenal fan, I can say that I was more shocked than you. However, the thing is that I believe in the manager so much. A similar situation happened in December when West Ham visited the Gunners at the Emirates. We had over 30 touches in their box but couldn't attempt a shot. West Ham went on to defeat us 2-0 due to how defensive they were. The whole situation turned around when we paid a visit to their stadium, ending 6-0 in favor of Arsenal.

Porto FC thinks they can play a defensive game. Arteta and his boys are really looking forward to that match because it's going to get ugly for them. I won't be surprised if Arsenal scores up to 5 goals and keeps a clean sheet in that game. RC Lens can testify to a similar situation.

And also, arsenal has a upper hand in the game, as most of their players have made important recovery for the team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 02, 2024, 05:09:21 AM
Yes Bayern Munich is one of the favorites to win, but unfortunately they did not show that they deserve to be champions, even now they must be behind Lazio on aggregate.

But even so their chances of turning things around are still there, it's just that it will be more difficult than them. I'm also starting to doubt them now. Maybe they can qualify and turn things around in this round, but after that I doubt them because the opponents they will face may be better than their current opponents.

Well, I think that Bayern will improve more and more, what happens is that Bayern for now has a very big emotional blow because they have been affected because Leverkusen and a team that has run over them as if it were a steamroller and This has made things different for them, because they have always been champions of Germany and now they are taking away the Bundeliga is something that affects their way of playing and everything, I could think that things are more difficult, It is now, the whole world was expecting that Dormtund was the team that was going to make the difference, but we see that it was not like that and that things can be different.

Leverkusen is a team that now has everything to be champions and that hits the ego very hard, they also have very good players playing, that is what has affected them the most, it is not easy for them to accept that their leadership is taken away like this almost from night to morning.
I don't think it's because Leverkusen are slowly eroding their mentality, but it's their own fault for not being able to improve more this season, the result is what we see now, they are struggling in the Bundesliga and they are also struggling in the Champions League.

In the Bundesliga it is very difficult to catch Leverkusen and they are likely to have to give up the title they have held. But in the Champions League, the opportunity is still there, it's just that they must be able to utilize it very well, do not let the mistakes they made in the first leg be repeated in this match.

The truth is it's a shame because basically when you try to see things differently, Bayern has always tried by all means to do things better, they even brought in the great Harry Kane and he has proven his worth a lot, but he has They lacked a lot of luck, because I see that no matter how much they have fought or they are not given things, then this is something that we must see, for me Leverkusen has been unstoppable, and there is the handling of Xabi Alonso and he is a good coach, the The truth is that I always liked how he played for Madrid, perhaps having gone through the best coaches in the world made him the coach he is now.

For Btyaern they have a lot of opportunity in the UCL, they should not back down or believe that they are less, they have a lot of quality, maybe this is not the Bundeliga, but they can fight for the UCL, which only the best in Europe are in, so no They can lose hope, I believe that many teams go through a crisis, this time it affected them a lot, but they have the quality to get out of this.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on March 02, 2024, 08:15:18 AM
Porto FC thinks they can play a defensive game. Arteta and his boys are really looking forward to that match because it's going to get ugly for them. I won't be surprised if Arsenal scores up to 5 goals and keeps a clean sheet in that game. RC Lens can testify to a similar situation.

And also, arsenal has a upper hand in the game, as most of their players have made important recovery for the team.
Huge pressure on the first minutes and Porto more playing with defensive make Arsenal difficult for creating many attempts and I don't sure how easily for winning the second leg match. Its difference with Lens performance because FC Porto lead one goal and enough for playing more defensive with waiting draw result.
Some time when the opponent teams get negative football playing by more defensive will make difficult for scoring goals and Porto will try counter attack for scoring their goals although keep focus how solid on defensive game play.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 02, 2024, 09:50:59 AM
I added a poll in the OP to get a general idea of the favorites here. Vote on which team do you think will lift the trophy this season. If one of the teams in the options is eliminated after the R16 second leg, I'll update it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 02, 2024, 12:16:13 PM
I don't think it's because Leverkusen are slowly eroding their mentality, but it's their own fault for not being able to improve more this season, the result is what we see now, they are struggling in the Bundesliga and they are also struggling in the Champions League.

In the Bundesliga it is very difficult to catch Leverkusen and they are likely to have to give up the title they have held. But in the Champions League, the opportunity is still there, it's just that they must be able to utilize it very well, do not let the mistakes they made in the first leg be repeated in this match.

The truth is it's a shame because basically when you try to see things differently, Bayern has always tried by all means to do things better, they even brought in the great Harry Kane and he has proven his worth a lot, but he has They lacked a lot of luck, because I see that no matter how much they have fought or they are not given things, then this is something that we must see, for me Leverkusen has been unstoppable, and there is the handling of Xabi Alonso and he is a good coach, the The truth is that I always liked how he played for Madrid, perhaps having gone through the best coaches in the world made him the coach he is now.

For Btyaern they have a lot of opportunity in the UCL, they should not back down or believe that they are less, they have a lot of quality, maybe this is not the Bundeliga, but they can fight for the UCL, which only the best in Europe are in, so no They can lose hope, I believe that many teams go through a crisis, this time it affected them a lot, but they have the quality to get out of this.
All teams will definitely try their best to get something good, but it doesn't always go smoothly as expected, sometimes the efforts they make are not in line with the results they get, it is something normal in football, all teams have experienced something like this.

Regarding the quality they have, I can say that they are one of the best in the Champions League, and in the Bundesliga I think they are still the best. But in football it's not always about that, there are still many factors that ultimately make a difference to a team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 02, 2024, 09:04:33 PM

Regarding the quality they have, I can say that they are one of the best in the Champions League, and in the Bundesliga I think they are still the best. But in football it's not always about that, there are still many factors that ultimately make a difference to a team.

This team fell off. and yeah, Tuchel must do something about it.
But Tuchel is not a competent coach for Bayern.
Competency is not just tactics, training, or any other set of coaching points. It's about building relationships with players. IMO
In the end, the way this team plays and the way this season has progressed is a reflection of the coach.

Bayern did not perform well this season, and they were not good enough to win anything this season
Significant personnel changes are needed for next season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on March 02, 2024, 09:25:50 PM
I added a poll in the OP to get a general idea of the favorites here. Vote on which team do you think will lift the trophy this season. If one of the teams in the options is eliminated after the R16 second leg, I'll update it.
I've voted, it seems I'm the first one who voted the candidate of the UCL champion.
Why we only have a chance to vote 1 team? I think it is no problem to vote 2 teams as the candidate of the champion.  :D

Regarding the quality they have, I can say that they are one of the best in the Champions League, and in the Bundesliga I think they are still the best. But in football it's not always about that, there are still many factors that ultimately make a difference to a team.
Yep. Bayern Munich is always one of the strongest teams in UCL. No team can underestimate Bayern Munich, they have proved it many times. Even when Barcelona has Messi and it was in prime era, Bayern Munich could beat them with big scores. In Bundesliga, Leverkusen is the best team in this season. But Bayern Munich is still a strong team as well.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on March 02, 2024, 09:41:32 PM
I added a poll in the OP to get a general idea of the favorites here. Vote on which team do you think will lift the trophy this season. If one of the teams in the options is eliminated after the R16 second leg, I'll update it.

I happened to be the second voter. I strongly believe in our manager and his process. Despite losing the first leg, I anticipate a victory in the second leg with a massive margin. I am well aware of how challenging the Champions League can be, and I'm confident that the players understand it too. In my view, two teams pose a threat in this competition: Manchester City and Real Madrid. It's quite likely that they could face each other in the semi-final, adding more excitement to the UCL.

Regarding Bayern, I don't see them as a threat due to their poor performance this season. Their recent game against Freiburg ended in a late draw, which they could have easily won. With a few weeks to go, let's hope for the best.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 03, 2024, 01:45:50 AM
I added a poll in the OP to get a general idea of the favorites here. Vote on which team do you think will lift the trophy this season. If one of the teams in the options is eliminated after the R16 second leg, I'll update it.
Good initiative sir. I have also voted in the voting. And my choice is Man City. Because so far this is the only team that has always performed solidly in every competition, whether domestic league or not. And Pep still looks trustworthy to make Man City lift the trophy again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 03, 2024, 09:05:02 AM

Regarding the quality they have, I can say that they are one of the best in the Champions League, and in the Bundesliga I think they are still the best. But in football it's not always about that, there are still many factors that ultimately make a difference to a team.

This team fell off. and yeah, Tuchel must do something about it.
But Tuchel is not a competent coach for Bayern.
Competency is not just tactics, training, or any other set of coaching points. It's about building relationships with players. IMO
In the end, the way this team plays and the way this season has progressed is a reflection of the coach.

Bayern did not perform well this season, and they were not good enough to win anything this season
Significant personnel changes are needed for next season.
I agree with you that football is not just about strategy and so on, but football is more than that. The 11 players who play on the field must have good chemistry that will make the strategy work very well.

From some of the teams I have seen, they have quality players, good coaches but they still fail. I wonder what the real problem is so that with such a composition they still fail. I found the answer from teamwork which is closely related to the relationship between the players or the chemistry between the players.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on March 03, 2024, 10:07:16 AM
Yep. Bayern Munich is always one of the strongest teams in UCL. No team can underestimate Bayern Munich, they have proved it many times. Even when Barcelona has Messi and it was in prime era, Bayern Munich could beat them with big scores. In Bundesliga, Leverkusen is the best team in this season. But Bayern Munich is still a strong team as well.
Last two season Bayern Munich is not strongest teams any more, they had losses first leg from Lazio and difficult for winning and come back on second leg match in this middle week. Bayern Munich performance had difference since last season eliminated by Manchester City in quarter final and had very poor performance in domestic league remaining many points left from Bayern Leverkusen.
I think the era of Bayern Munich in Champion League over with difficult to lead higher stage until the final round in champion league, I don't sure will Bayern easily come back against Lazio and qualify from 16 of round?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 04, 2024, 02:44:47 PM
Last two season Bayern Munich is not strongest teams any more, they had losses first leg from Lazio and difficult for winning and come back on second leg match in this middle week. Bayern Munich performance had difference since last season eliminated by Manchester City in quarter final and had very poor performance in domestic league remaining many points left from Bayern Leverkusen.
I think the era of Bayern Munich in Champion League over with difficult to lead higher stage until the final round in champion league, I don't sure will Bayern easily come back against Lazio and qualify from 16 of round?

Bayer has 90 minutes to make it count and no time to waste. Time is on Lazio's side.
And if Lazio qualifies, they reach the quarter-finals for the first time in two decades.
It won't be an easy game, but I think Die Roten will come back
The supporters and the atmosphere at the Allianz Arena will be energizing and give the team a boost so they can achieve their target of winning by at least two goals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 04, 2024, 10:50:30 PM
Last two season Bayern Munich is not strongest teams any more, they had losses first leg from Lazio and difficult for winning and come back on second leg match in this middle week. Bayern Munich performance had difference since last season eliminated by Manchester City in quarter final and had very poor performance in domestic league remaining many points left from Bayern Leverkusen.
I think the era of Bayern Munich in Champion League over with difficult to lead higher stage until the final round in champion league, I don't sure will Bayern easily come back against Lazio and qualify from 16 of round?

Bayer has 90 minutes to make it count and no time to waste. Time is on Lazio's side.
And if Lazio qualifies, they reach the quarter-finals for the first time in two decades.
It won't be an easy game, but I think Die Roten will come back
The supporters and the atmosphere at the Allianz Arena will be energizing and give the team a boost so they can achieve their target of winning by at least two goals.
That game is very exciting and promises, the truth is I don't know which team to go for, if Bayern passes then fine, but if Lazio passes don't be scared as you advance, of course, for me Bayern has much more experience and They know how to handle themselves in these Championships very well, so on that side I would like them to be able to pass, in addition to Bayern as they get or position themselves in a better position in the classification because they grow much more.

So I would like to see Bayern much higher, not that they get there, well the game will be very good, because of the way the Almenaes are I think they will go for the game from the second 1 and it will be a continuous attack, that's it It will be like that, and they will have Kane ready to take those very hard shots to see how many goals he can concede, I would really like to see that game and with Muller and everyone playing with everything they have, for me it is one of the best things that can happen. do.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 04, 2024, 11:45:41 PM
I added a poll in the OP to get a general idea of the favorites here. Vote on which team do you think will lift the trophy this season. If one of the teams in the options is eliminated after the R16 second leg, I'll update it.

I happened to be the second voter. I strongly believe in our manager and his process. Despite losing the first leg, I anticipate a victory in the second leg with a massive margin. I am well aware of how challenging the Champions League can be, and I'm confident that the players understand it too. In my view, two teams pose a threat in this competition: Manchester City and Real Madrid. It's quite likely that they could face each other in the semi-final, adding more excitement to the UCL.
Between Real Madrid and Manchester City, whatever team that wins in their semi-final meetings with each other is going to have my support to lift the Champions League trophy.

Real Madrid and Manchester City are two teams that I  believe that can lift the UEFA trophy, but now they will meet each other in the semi-finals, makes it worse to choose from. Still, yet, a team will leave and my support is for Manchester City to win the Champions League again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: DragonF on March 05, 2024, 03:03:25 AM
I added a poll in the OP to get a general idea of the favorites here. Vote on which team do you think will lift the trophy this season. If one of the teams in the options is eliminated after the R16 second leg, I'll update it.

I happened to be the second voter. I strongly believe in our manager and his process. Despite losing the first leg, I anticipate a victory in the second leg with a massive margin. I am well aware of how challenging the Champions League can be, and I'm confident that the players understand it too. In my view, two teams pose a threat in this competition: Manchester City and Real Madrid. It's quite likely that they could face each other in the semi-final, adding more excitement to the UCL.
Between Real Madrid and Manchester City, whatever team that wins in their semi-final meetings with each other is going to have my support to lift the Champions League trophy.

Real Madrid and Manchester City are two teams that I  believe that can lift the UEFA trophy, but now they will meet each other in the semi-finals, makes it worse to choose from. Still, yet, a team will leave and my support is for Manchester City to win the Champions League again.

Save this. Arsenal is winning the UCL. Arsenal is currently on fire. Arsenal's major test is against Porto. Porto winning Benfica 5 goals to nil and Arsenal winning 6 goals to nil shows how good both teams are in their leagues. Following records between both teams at the Emirates, I will back Arsenal to overcome the test and have an easy ride to the UCL finals. I look forward to Timber being featured in that game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on March 05, 2024, 04:10:50 AM
Save this. Arsenal is winning the UCL. Arsenal is currently on fire. Arsenal's major test is against Porto. Porto winning Benfica 5 goals to nil and Arsenal winning 6 goals to nil shows how good both teams are in their leagues. Following records between both teams at the Emirates, I will back Arsenal to overcome the test and have an easy ride to the UCL finals. I look forward to Timber being featured in that game.
Before losing on the first leg match, Arsenal had impressive performance but unbelievable FC Porto success winning over 1-0 although in domestic league matches Arsenal dominance won over many goals every match. Last night, Arsenal won over 6-0 over Sheffield United and I doubt they can win above three until five goals when facing FC Porto.
Had difference atmosphere between domestic league and champion league exactly with Porto motivate qualified to quarter final will earn more profitable, one step closer for Porto to secure second leg match and playing negative football by more defensive to secure the one winning goal on the first leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 05, 2024, 09:42:51 AM
Finally today the round of 16 for the second leg in UCL will begin. With the Bayern vs Lazio match and the Real Sociedad vs PSG match. In this match I will favor Bayern. But for the Real Sociedad vs PSG match I might prefer to bet on a draw. Because even though PSG is a tough team, sometimes they don't play optimally at home to their opponents. And Real Sociedad is also not a weak team when hosting.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 05, 2024, 12:40:44 PM
I have no dog in the upcoming matches but I'm tempted to bet on Lazio because the current odds is @10. Even the 1 handicap for Lazio @2.90 is also attractive. Maybe a little miracle will happen later ;D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on March 05, 2024, 09:30:28 PM
We have 2 matches in UCL today.

Bayern Munich vs Lazio

Real Sociedad vs PSG

Bayern Munich and Lazio still couldn't score a single goal. Both teams played carefully but Bayern Munich looks playing more offensive and aggressively. They seem to score goal as fast as possible but Lazio defense is strong enough. I'm not sure if Bayern Munich can score a goal in the first half of the match.

PSG has scored 1 goal, Mbappe made the goal. The Aggregate is already 3-0 for PSG, PSG qualifies for the next round. I think it is very difficult for Real Sociedad to score 4 goals now.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 05, 2024, 09:32:38 PM
For now, Lazio are defending as best they can, because Bayern has made some very strong attacks, Bayern's defense is very solid, I wouldn't say much about Lazio having many chances of winning, personally I think they are doing well, If Lazio manages to pass, it would be an Italian team that would be making the difference, so it's not bad at all, as far as I'm concerned I see that Bayern is looking for a tie, they're barely in the order of 31 minutes and still nothing.

The great Harry Kane is doing everything possible to score a goal, but the balls are not reaching him, I would like to see more action from them, because they promise, and they are playing in anticipation of Lazio's departure, but we all know what the teams are like Italians with their defense, I see that everyone from Bayern is very focused, this game is closed for now.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on March 05, 2024, 09:34:14 PM
Finally today the round of 16 for the second leg in UCL will begin. With the Bayern vs Lazio match and the Real Sociedad vs PSG match. In this match I will favor Bayern. But for the Real Sociedad vs PSG match I might prefer to bet on a draw. Because even though PSG is a tough team, sometimes they don't play optimally at home to their opponents. And Real Sociedad is also not a weak team when hosting.
It has been playing.
PSG is already 1 goal ahead of Sociedad. In fact, it can be assumed that PSG will advance to the next round, because if you look at the match, Real Sociedad has not been able to match PSG.

On the other hand. Bayern Munich still looks very difficult to score goals. However, as usual, they had lots of opportunities, and look, they also dominated the match very well. So, their attacks were not effective enough. If it continues like this, is it possible for them to win?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 05, 2024, 09:51:46 PM
Well, a tremendous goal, but Muller scores, it is something impressive, they gave 1 minute to be able to make the discount, and precisely in the 21-22 minute, Muller scores the second goal, or which would lead Bayern to pass partially, I did say that This match was going to be very good, because Bayern is a team that plays much more under pressure and that is something we all notice, the Germans show all their talent at the moment of seeing themselves lost, I think this is working well under pressure , I'm partly happy, but I also praise Lazio's work.

With this game plan, I think the Italians have to risk much more, because basically the things they are doing have to change everything, the panorama is no longer in their favor, the Almenaes already have everything so that whatever happens, they have to Play with much more power if you want to turn this game around, at least one goal if you score, to change the face of the game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Woodie on March 05, 2024, 10:18:20 PM
Bayern Munich have pulled themselves back into the champions league after looking like they were on the verge of being eliminated out of the Champions league and with this win I wouldn't be surprised if they are now considered as favourites to win it...but it will be a tough one to write off the likes of experienced and we'll decorated Real Madrid, and on the other hand we have in form Manchester City who seem to have cemented their presence in this competition. Otherwise I wouldn't mind City winning it after playing some great football week in, week out!
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: DragonF on March 06, 2024, 07:14:29 AM
What a great performance from Bayern. Kudos to Harry Kane for his brace. Well, I wasn`t expecting Bayern to leave the UCL at this stage because Bayern is one of the giant teams when it comes to Champions League Football. I considered the home factor and even experience and it became clear that Lazio wouldn`t have anything at Allianz Arena. Mbappe continues to prove himself and take PSG forward. I think it was an easy pass for them against the Real Sociedad side with an aggregate of 1-4 in favour of PSG. Today, I look forward to Manchester City and Real Madrid advancing as well.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 06, 2024, 08:50:10 AM
What a great performance from Bayern. Kudos to Harry Kane for his brace. Well, I wasn`t expecting Bayern to leave the UCL at this stage because Bayern is one of the giant teams when it comes to Champions League Football. I considered the home factor and even experience and it became clear that Lazio wouldn`t have anything at Allianz Arena. Mbappe continues to prove himself and take PSG forward. I think it was an easy pass for them against the Real Sociedad side with an aggregate of 1-4 in favour of PSG. Today, I look forward to Manchester City and Real Madrid advancing as well.
Well, Bayern and PSG managed to advance to the next stage in the UCL and it was in accordance with what many of us predicted. But Bayern scoring 3 goals is quite a big improvement. Considering that Lazio's defense was quite strong in the first leg, it turned out that Bayern could destroy it in the second leg.

today Real Madrid and Man City will also be favorites. And I think Man City is certain to qualify, because they managed to build a fairly large aggregate since the first leg. And Real Madrid will also be a favourite. But recently Real Madrid has experienced a decline in performance. I hope this doesn't happen in today's match. Because in today's match as hosts Real Madrid must win convincingly.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: EthereumDev_ on March 06, 2024, 01:20:08 PM
Well, Bayern and PSG managed to advance to the next stage in the UCL and it was in accordance with what many of us predicted. But Bayern scoring 3 goals is quite a big improvement. Considering that Lazio's defense was quite strong in the first leg, it turned out that Bayern could destroy it in the second leg.

today Real Madrid and Man City will also be favorites. And I think Man City is certain to qualify, because they managed to build a fairly large aggregate since the first leg. And Real Madrid will also be a favourite. But recently Real Madrid has experienced a decline in performance. I hope this doesn't happen in today's match. Because in today's match as hosts Real Madrid must win convincingly.
Bayern Munich's victory against Lazio shows that Bayern Munich still has the strength to spare for the UEFA Champions League match this season. The way Bayern Munich has done it is quite good because in the Bundesliga they are in second place and cannot win first place at least in UEFA Champions League Bayern Munich can be in first place until the League is finished and Bayern Munich emerges as champions.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 06, 2024, 03:16:48 PM
Well, a tremendous goal, but Muller scores, it is something impressive, they gave 1 minute to be able to make the discount, and precisely in the 21-22 minute, Muller scores the second goal, or which would lead Bayern to pass partially, I did say that This match was going to be very good, because Bayern is a team that plays much more under pressure and that is something we all notice, the Germans show all their talent at the moment of seeing themselves lost, I think this is working well under pressure , I'm partly happy, but I also praise Lazio's work.


Muller is the heart of the team. When all the players disappear, there is Thomas Muller, the catalyst in the game.
And Müller has scored in 11 Champions League round of 16 ties for Bayern.
Good game, and congrats for Bayer...
From now on, Bayer needs to increase spirit and performance as opponents in the next round won't be easy.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 06, 2024, 04:17:03 PM
Upcoming matches:

Man City vs. Copenhagen
Real Madrid vs. Leipzig

It's almost a done deal for City and it's 99% that they will make it to the next round. On the other hand, Real Madrid still has a lot of job to do. Anyone betting on these games? A City + Madrid parlay looks like a good bet but I would be careful. I think one of the games will end up in a draw.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on March 06, 2024, 04:18:33 PM
Well, Bayern and PSG managed to advance to the next stage in the UCL and it was in accordance with what many of us predicted. But Bayern scoring 3 goals is quite a big improvement. Considering that Lazio's defense was quite strong in the first leg, it turned out that Bayern could destroy it in the second leg.

today Real Madrid and Man City will also be favorites. And I think Man City is certain to qualify, because they managed to build a fairly large aggregate since the first leg. And Real Madrid will also be a favourite. But recently Real Madrid has experienced a decline in performance. I hope this doesn't happen in today's match. Because in today's match as hosts Real Madrid must win convincingly.
Bayern Munich's victory against Lazio shows that Bayern Munich still has the strength to spare for the UEFA Champions League match this season. The way Bayern Munich has done it is quite good because in the Bundesliga they are in second place and cannot win first place at least in UEFA Champions League Bayern Munich can be in first place until the League is finished and Bayern Munich emerges as champions.
Indeed, Bayern Munich have been one of the favorites in the Champions League from the start, only this faded after they failed to win in the first leg. Also their performance in the Bundesliga also experienced a decline which ultimately made confidence in them fade.

However, they were successful in the second leg by winning the match with a fairly landslide score too. They managed to turn things around and succeeded in eliminating their opponents in the round of 16. Now that they are in the quarter-finals, their task will be even harder.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: giammangiato on March 06, 2024, 04:44:22 PM
Well, Bayern and PSG managed to advance to the next stage in the UCL and it was in accordance with what many of us predicted. But Bayern scoring 3 goals is quite a big improvement. Considering that Lazio's defense was quite strong in the first leg, it turned out that Bayern could destroy it in the second leg.

today Real Madrid and Man City will also be favorites. And I think Man City is certain to qualify, because they managed to build a fairly large aggregate since the first leg. And Real Madrid will also be a favourite. But recently Real Madrid has experienced a decline in performance. I hope this doesn't happen in today's match. Because in today's match as hosts Real Madrid must win convincingly.
Bayern Munich's victory against Lazio shows that Bayern Munich still has the strength to spare for the UEFA Champions League match this season. The way Bayern Munich has done it is quite good because in the Bundesliga they are in second place and cannot win first place at least in UEFA Champions League Bayern Munich can be in first place until the League is finished and Bayern Munich emerges as champions.
Indeed, Bayern Munich have been one of the favorites in the Champions League from the start, only this faded after they failed to win in the first leg. Also their performance in the Bundesliga also experienced a decline which ultimately made confidence in them fade.

However, they were successful in the second leg by winning the match with a fairly landslide score too. They managed to turn things around and succeeded in eliminating their opponents in the round of 16. Now that they are in the quarter-finals, their task will be even harder.
Lazio strangely managed to make such a result in the house of a great Bayern Munich must be considered that if it has been reassembled in the house as a team like Lazio then for the next games it will be all uphill
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 06, 2024, 10:01:50 PM
Things are Relaxed for some and somewhat Difficult or hard for others, on the Man City side in the first half they are 3 to 1 against Copenhagen, with the goals for City by:

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Source: google

And for Madrid they are 0-0, but overall they are 1-0 in favor of Madrid, I think that at this moment Madrid has to look for a quick goal because if Leipzig scores it could complicate things, it would be very sad if they scored Madid at the moment, many things are at stake, especially the UCL, they cannot be left by force, City is already securing their pass, Ancelotti cannot be neglected, if I were Ancelotti I would send everyone to the attack, I would only stay with the formation ready to withstand any counterattack, but I would go on the attack, with City there is no problem, they are relaxed, Pep Guardiola has this game very well controlled.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 06, 2024, 10:40:23 PM
Upcoming matches:

Man City vs. Copenhagen
Real Madrid vs. Leipzig

It's almost a done deal for City and it's 99% that they will make it to the next round. On the other hand, Real Madrid still has a lot of job to do. Anyone betting on these games? A City + Madrid parlay looks like a good bet but I would be careful. I think one of the games will end up in a draw.
Well, Vinicius Junior has just scored Real Madrid's most anticipated goal to seal their quarter-final qualification to face Manchester City next.

Leipzig really gave Real Madrid a tough time in the first half, to have them draw with them. I anticipated a goal to be scored in the second half, which happened. However, Real Madrid should get prepared to face Manchester City because it will be the clash of the titans of who owes the Champions League title this season.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on March 06, 2024, 11:09:24 PM
Manchester City got an easy win and looked like it was never a contest to begin with, I am quite happy with that. However, I would like to point out that Real didn't had the game they wanted to have. I hope they find a way to get back on form because they look like they are a bit complacent these days, and that can happen during a season, sometimes you feel like you need a rest a bit, and maybe they are there right now. I am sure that by the time quarter finals come, they will be back on top form again. However, that doesn't change the fact that they should have won, this wasn't a good performance by them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Woodie on March 06, 2024, 11:13:47 PM
Rb Leipzig put up a brave fight against the most decorated team of Champions league games, and I feel Vinicius Junior dodged a bullet after that foul which looked like was a choke which should have seen him sent off and I blame VAR for doing a terrible job here...had VINi seen red here, that goal would have never come and with the amount of pressure we saw coming from Leipzig I think the game would have had a different ending...

But what the heck, what's football without any of these controversial moments...if people don't have anything to talk about then the fun is over  :P
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on March 06, 2024, 11:39:41 PM
Leipzig really gave Real Madrid a tough time in the first half, to have them draw with them. I anticipated a goal to be scored in the second half, which happened. However, Real Madrid should get prepared to face Manchester City because it will be the clash of the titans of who owes the Champions League title this season.
Leipzig played better than Real Madrid in this match. Although the result of the match was a draw, Leipzig already gave their best. I'm surprised Real Madrid looks like more defensive in this match, Leipzig made more attacks. Just look at the stats, Lipzig even could make 20 shots. All the goals were made in second half of the match. Real Madrid was lucky that Leipzig failed to score another goal. They have more chances for more goals until the end of the match.

Real Madrid must improve their game if they want to face Man City. They can't play like this match if they want to have a chance winning against Man City.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on March 06, 2024, 11:40:10 PM
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This result is not too surprising because Man City performed quite brilliantly in the first leg yesterday. So in this second leg, they just have to perfect their big win. However, the difference in strength between Man City and Copenhagen is very visible. Man City dominates in various aspects and this is very troublesome for Copenhagen. And, yes, they just have to wait for their next opponent.

Real Madrid vs Leipzig : 1 - 1
Who feels disappointed with the results of this match? Me personally yes. quite disappointed. Although indeed, in the end. Real Madrid is still the one who advanced to the next round, however, Real Madrid's performance in the second leg was not as optimal as we thought. In fact, they were quite troubled by the attacks from Leipzig. This is just Leipzig, not the other top clubs which will definitely be more troublesome.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: DragonF on March 06, 2024, 11:51:30 PM
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This result is not too surprising because Man City performed quite brilliantly in the first leg yesterday. So in this second leg, they just have to perfect their big win. However, the difference in strength between Man City and Copenhagen is very visible. Man City dominates in various aspects and this is very troublesome for Copenhagen. And, yes, they just have to wait for their next opponent.

Real Madrid vs Leipzig : 1 - 1
Who feels disappointed with the results of this match? Me personally yes. quite disappointed. Although indeed, in the end. Real Madrid is still the one who advanced to the next round, however, Real Madrid's performance in the second leg was not as optimal as we thought. In fact, they were quite troubled by the attacks from Leipzig. This is just Leipzig, not the other top clubs which will definitely be more troublesome.

All games have their uniqueness so whatever the outcome of a game I don`t feel surprised. I have been a football fan for years and I have witnessed different unpredictable results. Today, even though I expected an easy game and a very clear win for Madrid at Santiago Bernabeu, I will still applaud them for advancing to the next stage of the tournament and then hope they have a good fight against a deadly Manchester City. Manchester City and Real Madrid are my favourites but unfortunately only one is likely to get to the finals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on March 07, 2024, 12:24:24 AM
Smooth sailing for Man City. Copenhagen just wasn't a match for them, the Danish team is not in its peak form, even in their league they lost 3 out of the last 5 games.

City is a massive favourite to win the Champions League. Odds are as follows:

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Of course this will change after next week's 2nd leg games are completed. I wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal moved to the top spot. They are having an absolutely great time in the Premier League, scoring an average of 4.8 goals per game in their last 5 league games. And that's including defeating Liverpool 3-1.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 07, 2024, 01:19:09 AM
Upcoming matches:

Man City vs. Copenhagen
Real Madrid vs. Leipzig

It's almost a done deal for City and it's 99% that they will make it to the next round. On the other hand, Real Madrid still has a lot of job to do. Anyone betting on these games? A City + Madrid parlay looks like a good bet but I would be careful. I think one of the games will end up in a draw.
Well, Vinicius Junior has just scored Real Madrid's most anticipated goal to seal their quarter-final qualification to face Manchester City next.

Leipzig really gave Real Madrid a tough time in the first half, to have them draw with them. I anticipated a goal to be scored in the second half, which happened. However, Real Madrid should get prepared to face Manchester City because it will be the clash of the titans of who owes the Champions League title this season.
Well, Leipzig quickly struck back after that and it made the match harder for Madrid.

Madrid and City are now confirmed quarter finalist but it is still unknown if they will face each other in the QF. It looks like you're not aware of this yet but for your info, there will be a draw next week and that's the only time we'll know who will be facing off.

As I have predicted, one of the games ended up in a draw. Those who parlayed a what looked like a sure bet lost on that one.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 07, 2024, 09:18:09 AM
Smooth sailing for Man City. Copenhagen just wasn't a match for them, the Danish team is not in its peak form, even in their league they lost 3 out of the last 5 games.

City is a massive favourite to win the Champions League. Odds are as follows:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/06/ysrx9.png)

Of course this will change after next week's 2nd leg games are completed. I wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal moved to the top spot. They are having an absolutely great time in the Premier League, scoring an average of 4.8 goals per game in their last 5 league games. And that's including defeating Liverpool 3-1.
Real Madrid finally qualified, even though they only drew in the second leg. And this actually makes me doubt whether Real Madrid will be ready to go further. And I think that after the second leg of the round of 16 is finished, the table you attached will experience quite drastic changes. But for Man City, this team will definitely remain the favorite and remain at the top.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 07, 2024, 06:05:36 PM
Real Madrid finally qualified, even though they only drew in the second leg. And this actually makes me doubt whether Real Madrid will be ready to go further.

Poor performance yesterday. Madrid needs to Improve finishing and add some power to shots…
Good squad, playing attractive football but too inconsistent. Madrid should be far ahead of Leipzig.
It's time to wake up! Madrid is a big team and must show their quality.
All players must focus on the game and return to being the best.
The next game must be better...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on March 07, 2024, 07:39:07 PM
I think City looks like they already got the whole team and system down after this many years, that could be one of the reasons why they are so great. I agree that their players are awesome and all, but if you just got all these players this season, and it was their first ever year playing together, with Pep managing them for the first time, they would not be this good at all, they would not be even remotely near this level. But most of these players have been playing together for many years now, I do not know who is new, Doku maybe? I couldn't remember him to be fair, but majority of that team is the same from last year and many of them have bene there for man years. This makes them so powerful, and they will probably win it again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on March 07, 2024, 08:22:08 PM
Poor performance yesterday. Madrid needs to Improve finishing and add some power to shots…
Good squad, playing attractive football but too inconsistent. Madrid should be far ahead of Leipzig.
It's time to wake up! Madrid is a big team and must show their quality.
All players must focus on the game and return to being the best.
The next game must be better...
Currently, Real Madrid have weakness with attacking line performance with less productivities goals every match, last the bigger score winning in La Liga when defeating Girona over 4-0 and most the winning matches of Madrid last several matches above one or two goals.
Its home work for Carlo Ancelotti when playing without real striker, he always put Joselu on the bench and use false nine for giving Rodrygo to filled central forward position. Can't help more for Madrid in Champion League lack productivities goals exactly first and second leg must win above two or three goals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on March 07, 2024, 10:40:17 PM
Leipzig really gave Real Madrid a tough time in the first half, to have them draw with them. I anticipated a goal to be scored in the second half, which happened. However, Real Madrid should get prepared to face Manchester City because it will be the clash of the titans of who owes the Champions League title this season.

Real Madrid must improve their game if they want to face Man City. They can't play like this match if they want to have a chance winning against Man City.
Indeed, I will say that Leipzig were the better side. They were able to make good one-two touches, but lack the finishing ability when given a chance. It's quite unfortunately for Leipzig, but they've already made their statement by letting other UCL teams know that Real Madrid ain't dominant at the Bernabéu stadium.

I see Madrid facing mancity maybe in the semi-finals, which might give city the upper hand in going further. Wingers ain't enough for the Madrid side. They need a fearless nine(9) to lead their attack, but unfortunately they don't have one. Let's sit across and wait for next week's fixtures.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on March 08, 2024, 12:58:21 AM
Real Madrid finally qualified, even though they only drew in the second leg. And this actually makes me doubt whether Real Madrid will be ready to go further. And I think that after the second leg of the round of 16 is finished, the table you attached will experience quite drastic changes. But for Man City, this team will definitely remain the favorite and remain at the top.

That's for sure. I think if Inter knocks out Atletico next week, probably they'll jump up to number 2 or at least 3.
Inter is doing really well in Serie A, and it's almost certain at this point that they'll win it. But I still think Man City is a better team, they are very consistent in the toughest league in the world.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 08, 2024, 02:16:57 AM
Real Madrid finally qualified, even though they only drew in the second leg. And this actually makes me doubt whether Real Madrid will be ready to go further. And I think that after the second leg of the round of 16 is finished, the table you attached will experience quite drastic changes. But for Man City, this team will definitely remain the favorite and remain at the top.

That's for sure. I think if Inter knocks out Atletico next week, probably they'll jump up to number 2 or at least 3.
Inter is doing really well in Serie A, and it's almost certain at this point that they'll win it. But I still think Man City is a better team, they are very consistent in the toughest league in the world.
Well, talking about consistency, Man City has always been the best. Just look at when De Bruyne wasn't back and when Haaland was injured, it turns out that Man City was able to stay strong and didn't experience much decline. Because they have second tier players who also have very good quality. Pep is indeed a coach who has double preparation. He seems to be ready for the worst that could come to Man City.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on March 08, 2024, 09:53:59 PM
Well, talking about consistency, Man City has always been the best. Just look at when De Bruyne wasn't back and when Haaland was injured, it turns out that Man City was able to stay strong and didn't experience much decline.
Indeed, Man City is currently not as weak as when they were left behind by de Bruyne and their main players due to injury. So, their performance wasn't good enough at that time.

In contrast to current conditions, Man City is back in its heyday. With de Bruyne's return, Man City has become much stronger, more convincing, and also made Man City get used to it a lot.

And it's natural that when you see the two of them, I think who will be the next host.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on March 08, 2024, 11:51:14 PM
Just watched the highlights of Inter-Atletico, as I didn't have a chance to watch the full game earlier. The 1-0 result is a bit misleading and suggests it was an even game, but it was not. Inter was dominating and had plenty of great scoring chances, they just were out of luck and couldn't convert them into goals.
If not for bad luck, it would probably be something like 3-0.
Looking at Inter's past games this season, it doesn't make much difference for them if they play at home or away. And with 15 points advantage in Serie A over the 2nd Juventus, they can now focus primarily on the Champions League.

Anything is possible, but I think Inter is still a massive favourite to go through to the next round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 09, 2024, 01:33:22 AM
Well, talking about consistency, Man City has always been the best. Just look at when De Bruyne wasn't back and when Haaland was injured, it turns out that Man City was able to stay strong and didn't experience much decline.
Indeed, Man City is currently not as weak as when they were left behind by de Bruyne and their main players due to injury. So, their performance wasn't good enough at that time.

In contrast to current conditions, Man City is back in its heyday. With de Bruyne's return, Man City has become much stronger, more convincing, and also made Man City get used to it a lot.

And it's natural that when you see the two of them, I think who will be the next host.
After De Bruyne returned Man City really had a better level of attacking effectiveness. In fact, they become more productive. And when Haaland returned everything was even better. In essence, this team has really become like a monster on the field for other clubs. But somehow I see Inter Milan will be a surprise again this season. Because their performance has continued to be consistent since the start of the season until now in Serie A. And I see Inter Milan will also do it in the Champions League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on March 09, 2024, 06:06:20 AM
After De Bruyne returned Man City really had a better level of attacking effectiveness. In fact, they become more productive. And when Haaland returned everything was even better. In essence, this team has really become like a monster on the field for other clubs. But somehow I see Inter Milan will be a surprise again this season. Because their performance has continued to be consistent since the start of the season until now in Serie A. And I see Inter Milan will also do it in the Champions League.
Had positive impact after Kevin De Bruyne returning from injury not only with quit well performance from Manchester City in Premier League and UEFA Champion League matches but also Erling Haaland never absent scoring goals on every match. Not any weakness side yet with Manchester City performance in this season but get bit difficult with their current standings in domestic league under Liverpool's position will make separated their focus between Champion League or domestic league.
The champion League journey still longer time from quarter final until final and Pep Guardiola must smart to make rotation to avoid if De Bruyne have ack injury will be crucial for winning champion league this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: giammangiato on March 09, 2024, 04:39:48 PM
as I wrote in another post I wanted to communicate under this post some wonderful news for the Italian teams apparently in the next season Italy could have 7 teams participating in the competition it seems incredible if this were the case there would be quite a few problems for the other European teams haha
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 09, 2024, 04:53:07 PM
After De Bruyne returned Man City really had a better level of attacking effectiveness. In fact, they become more productive. And when Haaland returned everything was even better. In essence, this team has really become like a monster on the field for other clubs. But somehow I see Inter Milan will be a surprise again this season. Because their performance has continued to be consistent since the start of the season until now in Serie A. And I see Inter Milan will also do it in the Champions League.
It could be said that Kelvin de Bruyne is the lifeblood of Manchester City's midfield, his creativity is truly a mainstay for Pep Guardiola. We have also seen that when he is absent and cannot play, Manchester City becomes less good in attack.

Haaland also said that when KDB couldn't play he couldn't do anything like when he played with KDB, which proves that this player's role is very vital in Manchester City's game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on March 10, 2024, 10:32:43 PM
Well, talking about consistency, Man City has always been the best. Just look at when De Bruyne wasn't back and when Haaland was injured, it turns out that Man City was able to stay strong and didn't experience much decline.
Indeed, Man City is currently not as weak as when they were left behind by de Bruyne and their main players due to injury. So, their performance wasn't good enough at that time.

In contrast to current conditions, Man City is back in its heyday. With de Bruyne's return, Man City has become much stronger, more convincing, and also made Man City get used to it a lot.

And it's natural that when you see the two of them, I think who will be the next host.
After De Bruyne returned Man City really had a better level of attacking effectiveness. In fact, they become more productive. And when Haaland returned everything was even better. In essence, this team has really become like a monster on the field for other clubs. But somehow I see Inter Milan will be a surprise again this season. Because their performance has continued to be consistent since the start of the season until now in Serie A. And I see Inter Milan will also do it in the Champions League.
Yes, de Bruyne is a key player for Man City, apart from Haaland. Indeed, in Man City there are actually many great and strong players. However, the key player who can make Man City more stable and on track is de Bruyne, one of them. That's why, for now, they have returned again. Even though when talking about the EPL, Man City is not at the top of the standings, but when it comes to the UCL, Man City is still one of the favorites. What is clear is that Man City can breathe a sigh of relief because they can enter the next round, looking forward to the next opponent they will face.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on March 10, 2024, 10:41:57 PM
Have four teams qualified to quarter final of Champion League from Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and PSG. Next batch on middle week there are have four teams are waiting for to completed the quarter final teams participants, looking the first leg matches result dominance with draw and lead over one goal make interested for second leg matches and I don't sure FC Porto and Inter Milan had one goal easily qualify to next round.
Barcelona and PSV will play in their home still not secure yet with their position after home and away format goal removing all teams has the same opportunity qualifying to quarter final.

Pick your prediction which one will be four teams completed the quarter final participants?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 11, 2024, 09:35:40 PM
Well, talking about consistency, Man City has always been the best. Just look at when De Bruyne wasn't back and when Haaland was injured, it turns out that Man City was able to stay strong and didn't experience much decline.
Indeed, Man City is currently not as weak as when they were left behind by de Bruyne and their main players due to injury. So, their performance wasn't good enough at that time.

In contrast to current conditions, Man City is back in its heyday. With de Bruyne's return, Man City has become much stronger, more convincing, and also made Man City get used to it a lot.

And it's natural that when you see the two of them, I think who will be the next host.
After De Bruyne returned Man City really had a better level of attacking effectiveness. In fact, they become more productive. And when Haaland returned everything was even better. In essence, this team has really become like a monster on the field for other clubs. But somehow I see Inter Milan will be a surprise again this season. Because their performance has continued to be consistent since the start of the season until now in Serie A. And I see Inter Milan will also do it in the Champions League.
Yes, de Bruyne is a key player for Man City, apart from Haaland. Indeed, in Man City there are actually many great and strong players. However, the key player who can make Man City more stable and on track is de Bruyne, one of them. That's why, for now, they have returned again. Even though when talking about the EPL, Man City is not at the top of the standings, but when it comes to the UCL, Man City is still one of the favorites. What is clear is that Man City can breathe a sigh of relief because they can enter the next round, looking forward to the next opponent they will face.
So true. Even Man City was able to escape from the round of 16 without any difficulty at all. Qualifying with an aggregate of 6-2 really shows that Man City is still a team that their opponents in the UCL will fear. And also shows that they are indeed the favorite club to lift the UCL trophy again this season.

I am now curious whether Arsenal will qualify or not. They lost in the first leg. And tomorrow Arsenal will compete again in the second leg. And as the host I hope Arsenal can turn things around and win the match. Because I think Arsenal deserves to qualify for the next stage if they play better.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 11, 2024, 10:58:11 PM
I don't think it's because Leverkusen are slowly eroding their mentality, but it's their own fault for not being able to improve more this season, the result is what we see now, they are struggling in the Bundesliga and they are also struggling in the Champions League.

In the Bundesliga it is very difficult to catch Leverkusen and they are likely to have to give up the title they have held. But in the Champions League, the opportunity is still there, it's just that they must be able to utilize it very well, do not let the mistakes they made in the first leg be repeated in this match.

Currently Leverkusen has gone very far behind Bayern, I don't think and I don't know if they will give up on the Bundesliga, the truth is it's a shame, I always thought that the one who would take the Bundesliga title away from Bayern It was going to be Dortmund, but Leverkusen arrived like a tornado that caught many by surprise, it is still the date and they are still undefeated, that is something that is very surprising, for me the Bundeliga belongs to Leverkusen, Baeyern has to improve a lot, they are already thinking or looking for a job. Tuchel apparently is leaving at the end of the season, because I read an article somewhere that Mourinho had said no to Bayern.

In the UCL they have very good hopes, none of the remaining teams are easy, the others that pass will also be very tough teams, I don't see weaknesses in any of them, I think that Bayern already has to get the caste, it was difficult for them to obtain the great Harry Kane, it's time he proves his worth.




The truth is it's a shame because basically when you try to see things differently, Bayern has always tried by all means to do things better, they even brought in the great Harry Kane and he has proven his worth a lot, but he has They lacked a lot of luck, because I see that no matter how much they have fought or they are not given things, then this is something that we must see, for me Leverkusen has been unstoppable, and there is the handling of Xabi Alonso and he is a good coach, the The truth is that I always liked how he played for Madrid, perhaps having gone through the best coaches in the world made him the coach he is now.

For Btyaern they have a lot of opportunity in the UCL, they should not back down or believe that they are less, they have a lot of quality, maybe this is not the Bundeliga, but they can fight for the UCL, which only the best in Europe are in, so no They can lose hope, I believe that many teams go through a crisis, this time it affected them a lot, but they have the quality to get out of this.
All teams will definitely try their best to get something good, but it doesn't always go smoothly as expected, sometimes the efforts they make are not in line with the results they get, it is something normal in football, all teams have experienced something like this.

Regarding the quality they have, I can say that they are one of the best in the Champions League, and in the Bundesliga I think they are still the best. But in football it's not always about that, there are still many factors that ultimately make a difference to a team.

Currently Leverkusen has gone very far behind Bayern, I don't think and I don't know if they will give up on the Bundesliga, the truth is it's a shame, I always thought that the one who would take the Bundesliga title away from Bayern It was going to be Dortmund, but Leverkusen arrived like a tornado that caught many by surprise, it is still the date and they are still undefeated, that is something that is very surprising, for me the Bundeliga belongs to Leverkusen, Baeyern has to improve a lot, they are already thinking or looking for a job. Tuchel apparently is leaving at the end of the season, because I read an article somewhere that Mourinho had said no to Bayern.

In the UCL they have very good hopes, none of the remaining teams are easy, the others that pass will also be very tough teams, I don't see weaknesses in any of them, I think that Bayern already has to get the caste, it was difficult for them to obtain the great Harry Kane, it's time he proves his worth.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on March 12, 2024, 05:09:14 AM
So true. Even Man City was able to escape from the round of 16 without any difficulty at all. Qualifying with an aggregate of 6-2 really shows that Man City is still a team that their opponents in the UCL will fear. And also shows that they are indeed the favorite club to lift the UCL trophy again this season.

I am now curious whether Arsenal will qualify or not. They lost in the first leg. And tomorrow Arsenal will compete again in the second leg. And as the host I hope Arsenal can turn things around and win the match. Because I think Arsenal deserves to qualify for the next stage if they play better.
Manchester City become the first Premier league team qualified to quarter final with the aggregate winning over 6-2 against Copenhagen, its very poor performance with premier league team in champion league this season, left two team in 16 of round and Arsenal can't guarantee will qualify to next round after losing on the first leg match.
Tonight Arsenal will face Porto on second leg match, need to win above two goals after losing on the first leg not easy with Porto have bigger chance and will play more defensive. Its bad achievement if the only Manchester City are qualifying to quarter final as premier league teams only.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 12, 2024, 08:12:37 AM
So true. Even Man City was able to escape from the round of 16 without any difficulty at all. Qualifying with an aggregate of 6-2 really shows that Man City is still a team that their opponents in the UCL will fear. And also shows that they are indeed the favorite club to lift the UCL trophy again this season.

I am now curious whether Arsenal will qualify or not. They lost in the first leg. And tomorrow Arsenal will compete again in the second leg. And as the host I hope Arsenal can turn things around and win the match. Because I think Arsenal deserves to qualify for the next stage if they play better.
Manchester City become the first Premier league team qualified to quarter final with the aggregate winning over 6-2 against Copenhagen, its very poor performance with premier league team in champion league this season, left two team in 16 of round and Arsenal can't guarantee will qualify to next round after losing on the first leg match.
Tonight Arsenal will face Porto on second leg match, need to win above two goals after losing on the first leg not easy with Porto have bigger chance and will play more defensive. Its bad achievement if the only Manchester City are qualifying to quarter final as premier league teams only.
Porto, which is quite famous for its strong defense, will definitely strengthen their defense even more in the second leg. And this will be a tougher challenge for Arsenal to penetrate this defense. But I am optimistic that as hosts Arsenal will definitely surprise us all. Because recently we can see Arsenal starting to increase their goal productivity in the EPL. In fact, Arsenal is the team that has scored the most goals in the EPL at the moment.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 12, 2024, 01:08:47 PM
We have more interesting matches later. Since the first leg resulted in a draw or just a one point differential, it's still anyone's game. I might take more risk betting against Arsenal and Barcelona. I think of of them will not reach the quarter-finals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: DragonF on March 12, 2024, 03:40:33 PM
Today`s Champions League Matches

(https://i.ibb.co/3sqW6Tb/Screenshot-20240312-153406.png) (https://ibb.co/j52G08Y)

My interest is in the Arsenal vs FC Porto game. Despite the goal deficit, I expect Arsenal to put up an electrifying performance and advance to the next round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 12, 2024, 07:59:14 PM

My interest is in the Arsenal vs FC Porto game. Despite the goal deficit, I expect Arsenal to put up an electrifying performance and advance to the next round.

Great game tonight. This is the gunners’ time. And they cannot afford to disgrace English football by not qualifying for the next round.
I can't wait to see them do it tonight at Emirates Stadium. Give the fans a victory.
And I hope the players go into the match with courage, making the right decisions, not just waiting for the moment to score a goal.

I’m backing Arsenal to win at least so Arsenal can get Bayern or Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 12, 2024, 08:43:01 PM
Today for me the highlight will be Arsenal vs Porto, because they are teams that have a lot to define, the truth is that I would like Porto to win, because it is a team that I see with great intensity, very good power and the truth is I see it with heart, I don't know if the others will go in favor of Arnseal because of the good action they are doing in the PL, but I would like Porto to be the one Leading the charge at the moment, and it would also be something different.

Seeing Pepe in the UCL is something great, I like him because he is a veteran player who has a lot to give, on the other hand with the match Between Barcelona and Napoli, I lean more towards either of the two, they don't hurt me much, because I think that these two Teams have greatly decreased their performance.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 12, 2024, 08:54:40 PM
Have four teams qualified to quarter final of Champion League from Manchester City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and PSG. Next batch on middle week there are have four teams are waiting for to completed the quarter final teams participants, looking the first leg matches result dominance with draw and lead over one goal make interested for second leg matches and I don't sure FC Porto and Inter Milan had one goal easily qualify to next round.
Barcelona and PSV will play in their home still not secure yet with their position after home and away format goal removing all teams has the same opportunity qualifying to quarter finals
You are mistaken. The Champions League is in the round of 16, not the quarter-finals. For your notice, Porto hasn't won against Arsenal in their second-leg encounter, it will be taken today(a few minutes to it) at Arsenal's home. You know what it means, a win for Arsenal, even though they lost to Porto by a goal.

Today's round of 16 Champions League matches for today: 
Arsenal vs Porto
Barcelona vs SSC Napoli
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on March 12, 2024, 09:28:55 PM
Today's round of 16 Champions League matches for today: 
Arsenal vs Porto
Barcelona vs SSC Napoli
I'm quite surprise when watching Barcelona performance this time. They are exactly, leading the match.
Barcelona and Napoli may have equal control of the ball, both also seem to be trying to keep getting into their respective clubs' back zones.

But, Barcelona..... wow, they scored 2 goals so far.
It's great.
right?
I think that the match may be a draw.
But, seeing this result, it seems... Barcelona can win this match.

But well, it's still early time, Barcelona shouldn't underestimate Napoli.
The match still has many times ongoing.

Results for minute of 28:
Arsenal vs Porto : 0 - 0
Barcelona vs SSC Napoli : 2 - 0
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Emmanuel1 on March 12, 2024, 11:58:10 PM
I was planning to open this topic after the group stages but here we are...

Follow your team's standings and other stats at https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/
(no image as there are a lot of groups)

It would have been nice if we have the option to topen a poll for you to vote who do you think will win but we don't have that.
(https://cdnuploads.aa.com.tr/uploads/Contents/2020/08/08/thumbs_b_c_fe121d8eb2c916ce253f48261b7aa99f.jpg?v=021933)
Match review between Barca vs Napoli :It was a wonderful start for Barca tonight , but Barca experience a tough 45 minutes in the first half but the letter came back strong and got a 3-1win over Napoli, that brought the scores aggregate to 4-2 which make Barca to advance, to the next stage of the UEFA champions League 2023/2024 season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: notblox1 on March 12, 2024, 11:59:13 PM
Barcelona played much better than Napoli today, but next round is going to be much harder for them.
Arsenal won against Porto only after extra time and penalties, and we have only two more matches left in this round.
Inter and Dortmund are my favorites but anything can happen and I expect to see lot of goals tomorow.


Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Emmanuel1 on March 13, 2024, 12:20:32 AM
I was planning to open this topic after the group stages but here we are...

Follow your team's standings and other stats at https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/
(no image as there are a lot of groups)

It would have been nice if we have the option to topen a poll for you to vote who do you think will win but we don't have that.
(https://cdnuploads.aa.com.tr/uploads/Contents/2020/08/08/thumbs_b_c_fe121d8eb2c916ce253f48261b7aa99f.jpg?v=021933)
It was a tough one between Porto and Arsenal in UEFA champions League second league 2023/2024 season tonight, the both team have a second leg tied on aggregate. Arsenal won through penalty shootout to move pass porto to qualify for the UEFA champions League 2023-2024 season, quarter finals tonight. Excitement in the air for Arsenal  fans tonight,thanks to Michael Arteta.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on March 13, 2024, 12:22:35 AM
That was definitely a game to watch. I really didn't expected Arsenal to win it in the end by some point, I thought they would win before the game, but when you watch the game it became a little bit confusing, it looked like they might actually lose. In any case, I got my bet winning so I am happy either case, but Arsenal really needs to work on this tournament schedule thing, they are so great when its league, but when it comes to cups, they are not so great at knock out stage games. They got by with very thin margins this time around, but they could face so much trouble in next stages if they keep this up.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on March 13, 2024, 12:43:00 AM
It was a great few days for Arsenal. First, they overtook both Liverpool and Man City in the Premier League and moved to the top spot, and today they got to the Champions League quarter-finals after 14 years of waiting.
I think winning the league will be their main focus but they've proven they're more than capable of winning both trophies, even know today's game against Porto wasn't their best.
Penalty shoot-outs are always a lottery, but winning them tends to give teams some extra morale boost.

I don't see them as a favourite to win the CL, but they could make a surprise.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 13, 2024, 09:28:32 AM
It was a great few days for Arsenal. First, they overtook both Liverpool and Man City in the Premier League and moved to the top spot, and today they got to the Champions League quarter-finals after 14 years of waiting.
I think winning the league will be their main focus but they've proven they're more than capable of winning both trophies, even know today's game against Porto wasn't their best.
Penalty shoot-outs are always a lottery, but winning them tends to give teams some extra morale boost.

I don't see them as a favourite to win the CL, but they could make a surprise.
Well, even though Arsenal actually won only because they had better luck than Porto, they still deserved to go further in the UCL. Porto is a really tough opponent and it's natural that Arsenal had difficulty in yesterday's match.

today we still have two games left. Namely Dortmund vs PSV and Atletico Mdrid vs Inter Milan. This will be a match that is difficult to predict but I choose Dortmund and Inter Milan as favorites.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on March 13, 2024, 10:05:26 AM

My interest is in the Arsenal vs FC Porto game. Despite the goal deficit, I expect Arsenal to put up an electrifying performance and advance to the next round.

We should give Mikel Arteta's boys the credit they deserve for securing a quarterfinal spot after 14 years. It's the first time for the majority of the players aside from Havertz and Jorginho. Arteta's ability to do amazing things with young players is incredible. Sincerely, FC Porto is a very good side with fast and incredible players. They understood Arteta's style of play, which led them to play defensively in both legs.

Arsenal might likely face Barcelona from my calculations, which I think they can win to secure a spot in the semifinal. I hope for the best for them, as they seem to be the stronger side in the competition even though the experience isn't there.

COYG!
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on March 13, 2024, 11:50:52 AM
It was a tough one between Porto and Arsenal in UEFA champions League second league 2023/2024 season tonight, the both team have a second leg tied on aggregate. Arsenal won through penalty shootout to move pass porto to qualify for the UEFA champions League 2023-2024 season, quarter finals tonight. Excitement in the air for Arsenal  fans tonight,thanks to Michael Arteta.
Basically, I never imagined that Porto can play quite strong, they even forced Arsenal to play until penalty shootout. Arsenal is in its good form, they are in the top of EPL standings. Porto doesn't perform quite well in its domestic league, they are only in 3rd place. It is surprising that Porto makes Arsenal be difficult to qualify for the next round. We know that EPL is much better than Portugal league. However, Arsenal finally goes to the next round, they won penalty shootout. Congratulation for Arsenal fans!

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 13, 2024, 01:46:14 PM
That was definitely a game to watch. I really didn't expected Arsenal to win it in the end by some point, I thought they would win before the game, but when you watch the game it became a little bit confusing, it looked like they might actually lose. In any case, I got my bet winning so I am happy either case, but Arsenal really needs to work on this tournament schedule thing, they are so great when its league, but when it comes to cups, they are not so great at knock out stage games. They got by with very thin margins this time around, but they could face so much trouble in next stages if they keep this up.

They were lucky to win yesterday but Raya was a good goalkeeper and a Great save last night. David Raya proves his worth
Arsenal have reached the last eight of the Champions League for the first time since 2010.
Most of Arsenal's players have not played in the Champions League until now so they get more experience now because they are in it now.

Congrats on your bet...

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 13, 2024, 02:39:04 PM
It was a tough one between Porto and Arsenal in UEFA champions League second league 2023/2024 season tonight, the both team have a second leg tied on aggregate. Arsenal won through penalty shootout to move pass porto to qualify for the UEFA champions League 2023-2024 season, quarter finals tonight. Excitement in the air for Arsenal  fans tonight,thanks to Michael Arteta.
Basically, I never imagined that Porto can play quite strong, they even forced Arsenal to play until penalty shootout. Arsenal is in its good form, they are in the top of EPL standings. Porto doesn't perform quite well in its domestic league, they are only in 3rd place. It is surprising that Porto makes Arsenal be difficult to qualify for the next round. We know that EPL is much better than Portugal league. However, Arsenal finally goes to the next round, they won penalty shootout. Congratulation for Arsenal fans!
It was a tight match played by both teams, and Arsenal was lucky enough because they managed to win the match on penalties. Their defeat in the first leg required them to work harder in the second leg and the results were quite encouraging for them.

Porto itself actually played not bad, but considering Arsenal were playing at their own home it was a pressure for Porto. Despite Porto's defeat and their elimination in this round, overall their game did not disappoint.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 13, 2024, 03:29:53 PM
Napoli has been removed from the poll since they're already eliminated.

I won't be betting on the last two matches in R16 because I find them a bit tricky for me. I think Atletico Madrid could still win on aggregate against Inter while PSV vs. Dortmund could be decided by a penalty shootout.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on March 13, 2024, 08:18:58 PM
It was a tough one between Porto and Arsenal in UEFA champions League second league 2023/2024 season tonight, the both team have a second leg tied on aggregate. Arsenal won through penalty shootout to move pass porto to qualify for the UEFA champions League 2023-2024 season, quarter finals tonight. Excitement in the air for Arsenal  fans tonight,thanks to Michael Arteta.
Basically, I never imagined that Porto can play quite strong, they even forced Arsenal to play until penalty shootout. Arsenal is in its good form, they are in the top of EPL standings. Porto doesn't perform quite well in its domestic league, they are only in 3rd place. It is surprising that Porto makes Arsenal be difficult to qualify for the next round. We know that EPL is much better than Portugal league. However, Arsenal finally goes to the next round, they won penalty shootout. Congratulation for Arsenal fans!
It was a tight match played by both teams, and Arsenal was lucky enough because they managed to win the match on penalties. Their defeat in the first leg required them to work harder in the second leg and the results were quite encouraging for them.

Porto itself actually played not bad, but considering Arsenal were playing at their own home it was a pressure for Porto. Despite Porto's defeat and their elimination in this round, overall their game did not disappoint.
Arsenal for the first time after 2010, was able to qualify to the quarter finals stage yesterday with a penalty shootout. Porto shouldn't be upset, because penalty is a game of luck, and the unexpected team wins sometimes. Arsenal need to improve on their attackers, if they want to qualify from the quarter final stage, because they might meet a stronger club than Porto, who Arsenal managed to win. It was an interesting 120 minutes match, and each of the team played pretty good.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on March 13, 2024, 09:38:07 PM
Napoli has been removed from the poll since they're already eliminated.
Barcelona played much better in the second leg, moreover they played at home. So, this really gave certain influences to both teams.
Even though they may not be much different in terms of ball control, Barcelona played more aggressively. This made it quite difficult for Napoli to withstand their attacks. Even though Napoli actually provided enough defense.

Remaining matches are playing right now. Ongoing matches:
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/13/JXEWT.png)
Dortmund seems to have bigger chances to win. They are leading and more dominant in the match. I am sure that Dortmund will win this match and continue to quarter final.

Atletico Madrid vs Inter, it's quite tricky. But, I am sure that Inter will win the match. The aggregate at least right now is 2 - 1, Inter leading. This match is very interesting.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 13, 2024, 09:40:29 PM
Well, in today's match we have Atletico vs Inter and Dortmund, where basically for me the highlight is ATM vs Inter, where in the general they go 2-1 in favor of Inter and in the game they go 1 to 1 and this It seems interesting, immediately after Inter vaccinated Atlético and they scored a goal, which seems quite strong to me, it is a very good match, I had not seen such emotions, on the other hand PSV and Dortmund are in the general classification (1-2) where Dortmun has a good chance of passing, this is getting good, both Atlético and PSV are fighting hard for a place, they want to tie, they want extra time and they want a penalty, everything is for that precious place in the quarterfinals In the final, only the 8 best will pass this time, it is a great emcoin, the UCL is getting better every time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on March 13, 2024, 11:13:12 PM
I thought it's going to be an easy one for Inter, but I was very wrong.
We have 104th minute of the game and there's a big chance we're about to see another penalty shootout. If that happens, Atletico should have psychological advantage of playing at home + mental boost for scoring that goal just before the final whistle.
Judging by the statistics (I haven't been watching the game) Atletico was far more offensive, with 20 shots on goal (8 on target) Vs Inter's 11(5).
Not much left to go...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: notblox1 on March 13, 2024, 11:50:49 PM
I thought it's going to be an easy one for Inter, but I was very wrong.
I was thinking the same thing and all predictions I had was for Inter to go in next round.
Atletico Madrid was much better in second half and I think home crowd helped them a lot in extra times and penalties.
Quarter Finals draw is in few days so lets see who they will play next.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 13, 2024, 11:59:35 PM
 :P
Barcelona played much better than Napoli today, but next round is going to be much harder for them.
Arsenal won against Porto only after extra time and penalties, and we have only two more matches left in this round. :'(
Inter and Dortmund are my favorites but anything can happen and I expect to see lot of goals tomorow.
There won't be any next round for Barcelona and Napoli since they have met against each other twice, which Barcelona won by 4-2  aggregate.
As Arsenal and Barcelona won their match yesterday, it's like both of them will meet against each other in the next round of the quarter-finals of the Champions League.

In today's Champions League match, Dortmund won PSV by 2 goals, to make it 3-1 aggregate.
Athletic Madrid 2 vs 1 Inter (2-2 aggregate). But it ended in a penalty shootout of 5-4, in favor of Athletic Madrid
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on March 14, 2024, 12:09:52 AM
What a shame. I thought Inter was in a very good spot to win the CL, they were among my favourites. They are almost sure to win Serie-A with 16 points advantage over 2nd Milan and only 1 loss in the league, so they could focus entirely on the CL. But Atletico decided not to go down easy and it paid off. Well done to them, but I don't give them much chance of getting to the final.

The quarter-final, semi-final and final draws will take place this Friday. Whatever happens, there won't be any boring games.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on March 14, 2024, 12:15:34 AM
What a shame. I thought Inter was in a very good spot to win the CL, they were among my favourites. They are almost sure to win Serie-A with 16 points advantage over 2nd Milan and only 1 loss in the league, so they could focus entirely on the CL. But Atletico decided not to go down easy and it paid off. Well done to them, but I don't give them much chance of getting to the final.

The quarter-final, semi-final and final draws will take place this Friday. Whatever happens, there won't be any boring games.
You are right mate, there wouldn't be any boring game anymore as all the clubs that qualified to the quarter finals are very strong. However, I wouldn't blame Inter that much for not qualifying to the next round because they game ended up in a penalty, and penalty is a game of luck. Of course Inter should have started attacking from the beginning of the match, but rather they choose to play a defenseive game which have cost them their exit from the champions league.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Emmanuel1 on March 14, 2024, 12:24:08 AM
I was planning to open this topic after the group stages but here we are...

Follow your team's standings and other stats at https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/
(no image as there are a lot of groups)

It would have been nice if we have the option to topen a poll for you to vote who do you think will win but we don't have that.
(https://cdnuploads.aa.com.tr/uploads/Contents/2020/08/08/thumbs_b_c_fe121d8eb2c916ce253f48261b7aa99f.jpg?v=021933)
It was an exciting game today for Dortmund as the advance over PSV,to the quarter finals of the UEFA champions League, for the first time in 3 years. Let's give it off for Jordan Sancho and Marco Reus, for helping borussia dortmundo advance to the quarter-final of the UEFA champions League 2023/ 2024 season. PSV have the opportunity to equalize but they fail to utilize their opportunity, and they were knockout of the UEFA champions League round of 16.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on March 14, 2024, 04:47:42 AM
Atletico Madrid and Dortmund completed the quarter final teams, next Sunday we are waiting the schedule drawing match and which one become the most interested match in quarter final. La Liga have many teams participants in quarter final than Premier League or Bundesliga, but have bad result for Serie A without participants after Inter Milan and Napoli eliminating from 16 round. Need waiting up to several weeks later for watching the quarter final match and as Madrid fans expected not face Manchester City in quarter final round.

here the quarter final UEFA Champion League participants teams.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: DragonF on March 14, 2024, 08:40:58 AM
What a shame. I thought Inter was in a very good spot to win the CL, they were among my favourites. They are almost sure to win Serie-A with 16 points advantage over 2nd Milan and only 1 loss in the league, so they could focus entirely on the CL. But Atletico decided not to go down easy and it paid off. Well done to them, but I don't give them much chance of getting to the final.

The quarter-final, semi-final and final draws will take place this Friday. Whatever happens, there won't be any boring games.

There is nothing shameful about Inter Milan not advancing. The better team won and that is the nature of football. Everything playing in the Champions League is a giant in their local league and so offset cannot be ruled out. Congrats to Atletico Madrid and the rest teams that qualified.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 14, 2024, 08:56:08 AM
What a shame. I thought Inter was in a very good spot to win the CL, they were among my favourites. They are almost sure to win Serie-A with 16 points advantage over 2nd Milan and only 1 loss in the league, so they could focus entirely on the CL. But Atletico decided not to go down easy and it paid off. Well done to them, but I don't give them much chance of getting to the final.

The quarter-final, semi-final and final draws will take place this Friday. Whatever happens, there won't be any boring games.
I didn't even expect that Inter Milan would be eliminated so quickly. Even though I also favor them in the UCL this season. And I didn't expect Atletico Madrid to be able to beat them. Even though Atletico Madrid last season even failed in the group stage. But this season it seems like everything has changed. Because now Atletico Madrid has also managed to advance to the quarter-finals. And now the teams from LaLiga are the ones who have progressed to the quarter-finals the most. And yes, this is progress for Spanish clubs.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Obari on March 14, 2024, 01:17:51 PM
What a shame. I thought Inter was in a very good spot to win the CL, they were among my favourites. They are almost sure to win Serie-A with 16 points advantage over 2nd Milan and only 1 loss in the league, so they could focus entirely on the CL. But Atletico decided not to go down easy and it paid off. Well done to them, but I don't give them much chance of getting to the final.

The quarter-final, semi-final and final draws will take place this Friday. Whatever happens, there won't be any boring games.

There is nothing shameful about Inter Milan not advancing. The better team won and that is the nature of football. Everything playing in the Champions League is a giant in their local league and so offset cannot be ruled out. Congrats to Atletico Madrid and the rest teams that qualified.
I'm really surprised that Athletico Madrid were able to eliminate inform Inter Milan at the end,the game was so tough that I thought Milan might win at the later end,but the reverse is the case.Congratulations to Athletico for qualifying,they will be hoping not to meet a team like Mancity,Real Madrid or Arsenal, because if they do,they  know they are going to be eliminated.
Mancity have a good chance of winning this champions league again,but if that will happen,I think their avoidance of Real Madrid  will make them get to the final of the  tournament,but I pray they should meet Madrid so one of those teams will be eliminated immediately before the semi final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 14, 2024, 01:31:58 PM
It was a tight match played by both teams, and Arsenal was lucky enough because they managed to win the match on penalties. Their defeat in the first leg required them to work harder in the second leg and the results were quite encouraging for them.

Porto itself actually played not bad, but considering Arsenal were playing at their own home it was a pressure for Porto. Despite Porto's defeat and their elimination in this round, overall their game did not disappoint.
Arsenal for the first time after 2010, was able to qualify to the quarter finals stage yesterday with a penalty shootout. Porto shouldn't be upset, because penalty is a game of luck, and the unexpected team wins sometimes. Arsenal need to improve on their attackers, if they want to qualify from the quarter final stage, because they might meet a stronger club than Porto, who Arsenal managed to win. It was an interesting 120 minutes match, and each of the team played pretty good.
Yes, it is a very long time that Arsenal need to be able to return to even tighter competition in the Champions League and thank you for reminding me, because I myself can't remember the last time Arsenal was in this round in the Champions League.

Arsenal's task is still very difficult, they need to prepare themselves better, because in the quarter-finals the opponents they will face will be much tougher than the opponents they faced in the last 16, keep in mind that these are the 8 best teams in Europe this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 14, 2024, 03:18:39 PM
Two teams have been removed from the poll (Napoli and Inter). I can't say I'm disappointed with the teams that's moving to the QF. Hopefully, the draw would result mostly in ENG vs. ESP teams or vs. GER teams.

~ next Sunday we are waiting the schedule drawing match and which one become the most interested match in quarter final.
The draw for the quarter finals is on March 15 at 11am (UK time).
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on March 14, 2024, 04:56:44 PM
Atletico Madrid and Dortmund completed the quarter final teams, next Sunday we are waiting the schedule drawing match and which one become the most interested match in quarter final. La Liga have many teams participants in quarter final than Premier League or Bundesliga, but have bad result for Serie A without participants after Inter Milan and Napoli eliminating from 16 round. Need waiting up to several weeks later for watching the quarter final match and as Madrid fans expected not face Manchester City in quarter final round.

here the quarter final UEFA Champion League participants teams.
  • Real Madrid
  • Atletico Madrid
  • Barcelona
  • Manchester City
  • Arsenal
  • Bayern Munich
  • Dortmund
  • PSG
All the Italian clubs are put from the Champions League, and Inter was supposed to be the club to represent them, but they could not make it through the round of 16. We have 3 Spanish clubs, 3 German clubs, and 2 English clubs. By tomorrow we will see the draw result and know which clubs will play against themselves in the quarter finals stage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on March 14, 2024, 09:39:24 PM
here the quarter final UEFA Champion League participants teams.
  • Real Madrid
  • Atletico Madrid
  • Barcelona
  • Manchester City
  • Arsenal
  • Bayern Munich
  • Dortmund
  • PSG
La Liga sent 3 clubs to the quarter finals. That's exactly great. But, we really admit that they are clubs that really deserve to enter this round. Although perhaps, many people think or hope that Inter will be one of them. However, reality cannot be denied. Atletico Madrid could make it better and they deserve this.

The draw for the quarter finals is on March 15 at 11am (UK time).
We are really waiting for this.
There are many big clubs, that will compete for their best performance. every club may not expect to face the strongest one in this quarter, but, we will see it this day.
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Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 14, 2024, 10:06:56 PM
All the Italian clubs are put from the Champions League, and Inter was supposed to be the club to represent them, but they could not make it through the round of 16. We have 3 Spanish clubs, 3 German clubs, and 2 English clubs. By tomorrow we will see the draw result and know which clubs will play against themselves in the quarter finals stage.

Italian league clubs only qualify for the Europa League, the second League :(
PSG is from France, not Germany. So the Bundesliga is only represented by two clubs, namely Bayer and Dortmund.
And yeah, the draw will be a long-awaited time, I hope Real Madrid and City will not meet in the quarter-finals.
The semifinals or final round are worthy places for both teams
Let's wait and see...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 15, 2024, 02:51:11 AM
All the Italian clubs are put from the Champions League, and Inter was supposed to be the club to represent them, but they could not make it through the round of 16. We have 3 Spanish clubs, 3 German clubs, and 2 English clubs. By tomorrow we will see the draw result and know which clubs will play against themselves in the quarter finals stage.

Italian league clubs only qualify for the Europa League, the second League :(
PSG is from France, not Germany. So the Bundesliga is only represented by two clubs, namely Bayer and Dortmund.
And yeah, the draw will be a long-awaited time, I hope Real Madrid and City will not meet in the quarter-finals.
The semifinals or final round are worthy places for both teams
Let's wait and see...
I hope Atletico Madrid will face Arsenal. The reason I want it is because these two clubs qualified for the quarter-finals thanks to winning in the penalty shootout. So the two deserve to meet. But yeah, everything will depend on the draw later. And yes, I also hope that big teams like Real Madrid and Man City don't meet directly.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 15, 2024, 11:51:41 AM
I don't know if they have fans here but out of respect to the efforts of Atletico Madrid and Dortmund, I added them to the poll.

The draw will be starting soon. Since there are no seeding, draws like Man City vs Liverpool or Real Madrid vs Barcelona could happen as early as the quarter-finals. That would be wild ;D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 15, 2024, 12:17:08 PM
The draw is done and here are the match ups for the Quarter-Finals:

QF1 - Arsenal vs. Bayern Munich
QF2 - Atletico Madrid vs. Dortmund
QF3 - Real Madrid vs. Manchester City
QF4 - PSG vs. Barcelona

All games are going to be fireworks but Q3 is definitely the biggest one. Too early for them to face each other?

Semi-finals draw:
SF1 - QF2 Winner vs. QF4 Winner
SF2 - QF1 Winner vs. QF3 Winner
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Bitcoin_people on March 15, 2024, 04:44:21 PM
All the teams currently in the quarter finals in the uefa champions league are strong. And these matches will be played with the most competition and each team will make a strong attack to advance to the semi-finals. And it is very difficult for all the teams who have drawn the match to reach the semi-final match by winning the match. So every match of Champions League which is going to be held now is going to be interesting.
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Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on March 15, 2024, 06:12:37 PM
It's a shame that 2 team that have been anticipated to have a highest chance of winning, Man City and Real Madrid will play against each other in the quarter final. I think many were hoping for these two to meet in the final.
I think, Man City will make it to go through, but it won't be easy, especially given the competition in Premier League is super-tight, with 3 teams having almost the same number of points. Real currently has a comfy 7 points advantage over Girona in LaLiga. If they keep it they would be able to rest their key players before games against Man City.
My picks/guesses for winners of other pairs: PSG, Atletico, Bayern
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 15, 2024, 07:20:06 PM
It's a shame that 2 team that have been anticipated to have a highest chance of winning, Man City and Real Madrid will play against each other in the quarter final. I think many were hoping for these two to meet in the final.
I think, Man City will make it to go through, but it won't be easy, especially given the competition in Premier League is super-tight, with 3 teams having almost the same number of points. Real currently has a comfy 7 points advantage over Girona in LaLiga. If they keep it they would be able to rest their key players before games against Man City.

Damn...This will be the final.  Every year Madrid gets the hardest drawing.
I'm not ready for this match and I hope Don Carlo won’t fuck up on the starting line-up.
But this is an exciting game, A fascinating clash of titans showcasing contrasting styles and philosophies, sparking debates on football strategy and execution.
The beauty of the sport lies in these intricate battles unfolding on the grand stage. Let’s hope for the best...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on March 15, 2024, 07:25:42 PM
Little disappointed with the quarter final Champion League drawing match because the most ideal final dreaming between Manchester City vs Real Madrid have been over. Both team will face on quarter final round and the winner will face Bayern Munich or Arsenal in the semifinal round.
I so excited to see Manchester City vs Real Madrid in the final round of Champion League season 2023/24 but both team have face early on quarter final round. Madrid's fans had bad memorize last season defeated by Manchester City on the semifinal round, will the same result for this season or Madrid will success beat Manchester City?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on March 15, 2024, 09:42:53 PM
I reeeaally hate it when City and Madrid face each other before finals. In any case, one of the teams that is probably the highest favorites to win it, will not even see semi finals, that feels horrible. In any case, I think its normal for people to be happy about these quarter finalists, its definitely going to be fun to watch without a doubt, and I think its going to mean so much for people when they can take a break and watch some high quality football. Life is already as hard as it is, to take 2 hours or so from your life to watch these games, and relax for just two hours, is an amazing feeling. My only regret is that, each game is not at different times, so we could have watched it all.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: MRY on March 15, 2024, 10:35:08 PM
Little disappointed with the quarter final Champion League drawing match because the most ideal final dreaming between Manchester City vs Real Madrid have been over. Both team will face on quarter final round and the winner will face Bayern Munich or Arsenal in the semifinal round.
I so excited to see Manchester City vs Real Madrid in the final round of Champion League season 2023/24 but both team have face early on quarter final round. Madrid's fans had bad memorize last season defeated by Manchester City on the semifinal round, will the same result for this season or Madrid will success beat Manchester City?
Before Manchester City vs Real Madrid is reached, it looks like there are still several matches in other tournaments. If one of these teams does not maintain their performance well then in this match they will lose. I predict that both of them will exert their strength, especially as you have said, Real Last season, Madrid lost to Manchester City, so I am sure that when that match occurs, Real Madrid will use all its best strength to face Manchester City.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on March 15, 2024, 11:14:05 PM
I reeeaally hate it when City and Madrid face each other before finals. In any case, one of the teams that is probably the highest favorites to win it, will not even see semi finals, that feels horrible. In any case, I think its normal for people to be happy about these quarter finalists, its definitely going to be fun to watch without a doubt, and I think its going to mean so much for people when they can take a break and watch some high quality football. Life is already as hard as it is, to take 2 hours or so from your life to watch these games, and relax for just two hours, is an amazing feeling. My only regret is that, each game is not at different times, so we could have watched it all.
The most important thing between Manchester City and Real Madrid is not whether they meet in the finals or not. The most important thing is who wins irrespective of where they meet be it in group match or during the round 16 or and 8. When will just remember that Real Madrid and Manchester City must surely meet in the Champions League it makes our expectation high and Champions League more fun. About two seasons ago the met and it favored Real Madrid, just last season Manchester City mad mess of Real Madrid we are just very anxious of what happens next this time around. I will always enjoy the meeting of the English giant and Spanish giant irrespective of the timing of the meeting it will surely be interesting.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Obari on March 16, 2024, 12:41:13 AM
All the teams currently in the quarter finals in the uefa champions league are strong. And these matches will be played with the most competition and each team will make a strong attack to advance to the semi-finals. And it is very difficult for all the teams who have drawn the match to reach the semi-final match by winning the match. So every match of Champions League which is going to be held now is going to be interesting.
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This is are all interesting draws that one can't afford to miss.So many eyes are on the Arsenal vs Bayern Munich,and they think Bayern will end the existence in the Champions league this season,but with Arsenal's form,and with what Bayern 've done to Arsenal in the past,I think Arsenal will  be out to prove doubters wrong,and to show them they are more than capable of winning something great this season.The spirit is there,the team work is there,the unity and love is there,and I think they also have the quality they never had before to be able to challenge for the tittle this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 16, 2024, 12:16:24 PM
It's a shame that 2 team that have been anticipated to have a highest chance of winning, Man City and Real Madrid will play against each other in the quarter final. I think many were hoping for these two to meet in the final.
I think, Man City will make it to go through, but it won't be easy, especially given the competition in Premier League is super-tight, with 3 teams having almost the same number of points. Real currently has a comfy 7 points advantage over Girona in LaLiga. If they keep it they would be able to rest their key players before games against Man City.

Damn...This will be the final.  Every year Madrid gets the hardest drawing.
I'm not ready for this match and I hope Don Carlo won’t fuck up on the starting line-up.
But this is an exciting game, A fascinating clash of titans showcasing contrasting styles and philosophies, sparking debates on football strategy and execution.
The beauty of the sport lies in these intricate battles unfolding on the grand stage. Let’s hope for the best...
It's the beauty of an open draw. You get whatever comes and that includes the strongest teams clashing early in the tournament. Both teams can only hope that their best players will be available in both legs.

If anyone has any problem with the draw, then complain to Jan Obi Mikel ;D

It looks like Barcelona or PSG (whoever wins in their QF match) will have an easier march to the Finals. They will be facing either Atletico or Dortmund.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on March 16, 2024, 12:44:33 PM
Updated odds for the outright Champions' League winner:

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Man City, the current champion, being the favourite here does not surprise me, but the disproportions between their odds and the odds for other teams seem a bit strange to me. I don't think Man City is that much better than Arsenal or Real Madrid. I'd expect pay-out rates to be much closer to each other.
Placing bet on Real could be a good opportunity. If they somehow manage to get passed the City, it should be smooth sailing from there.
Any thoughts?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on March 16, 2024, 02:20:08 PM
Updated odds for the outright Champions' League winner:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/16/J6A61.png)

Man City, the current champion, being the favourite here does not surprise me, but the disproportions between their odds and the odds for other teams seem a bit strange to me. I don't think Man City is that much better than Arsenal or Real Madrid. I'd expect pay-out rates to be much closer to each other.
Placing bet on Real could be a good opportunity. If they somehow manage to get passed the City, it should be smooth sailing from there.
Any thoughts?
For Manchester City, I wasn't surprised, but I was surprised when Real Madrid was behind Arsenal to win the title this season, because in my opinion Real Madrid actually had a bigger chance than Arsenal. But they may have other thoughts about this.

The interesting thing is when Real Madrid will face Manchester City in this round. Whoever wins, in my opinion, they will have a greater chance of winning the title, especially if Manchester City wins.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunderland on March 16, 2024, 06:06:35 PM
Updated odds for the outright Champions' League winner:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/16/J6A61.png)

Man City, the current champion, being the favourite here does not surprise me, but the disproportions between their odds and the odds for other teams seem a bit strange to me. I don't think Man City is that much better than Arsenal or Real Madrid. I'd expect pay-out rates to be much closer to each other.
Placing bet on Real could be a good opportunity. If they somehow manage to get passed the City, it should be smooth sailing from there.
Any thoughts?

The odds are looks normal considering Arsenal, Atletico and PSG will play at home in the 1st leg.
And the odds will change depends on the 1st leg result later, but I agree about Mancity - Idk why the bookmaker put Mancity as the heavy favorite while they are playing away in the first leg.
Perhaps they predict Madrid vs Mancity will be a draw or Mancity able to win with a decent score at their home later.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 16, 2024, 08:26:24 PM
This is are all interesting draws that one can't afford to miss.So many eyes are on the Arsenal vs Bayern Munich,and they think Bayern will end the existence in the Champions league this season,but with Arsenal's form,and with what Bayern 've done to Arsenal in the past,I think Arsenal will  be out to prove doubters wrong,and to show them they are more than capable of winning something great this season.The spirit is there,the team work is there,the unity and love is there,and I think they also have the quality they never had before to be able to challenge for the tittle this season.

The crucial is Arteta’s decision on the lineup.
I have found the inexperience of some players in UCL, especially Saka when against Porto.
And if Trossard was not there then Arsenal won’t be talking about the UCL quarter-final.
BTW. Bayern was chasing Raya, Rice, and Havertz in the summer, but now they are forced to face them in the Champions League.
Get ready for some intense action...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on March 16, 2024, 11:57:16 PM
This is are all interesting draws that one can't afford to miss.So many eyes are on the Arsenal vs Bayern Munich,and they think Bayern will end the existence in the Champions league this season,but with Arsenal's form,and with what Bayern 've done to Arsenal in the past,I think Arsenal will  be out to prove doubters wrong,and to show them they are more than capable of winning something great this season.
Bayern Munich should be the favorite team to win although Arsenal is in a good form in the last few seasons. Bayern Munich always has a good history in UCL every season although they may fail to win the trophy. With Harry Kane in Bayern Munich squad this season, I think Bayern Munich has the ability to reach the final. Against Arsenal, Harry Kane must know well how to deal with Arsenal defense. Harry Kane was playing in EPL, he must be familiar with Arsenal game style.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 17, 2024, 04:23:11 AM
It's a shame that 2 team that have been anticipated to have a highest chance of winning, Man City and Real Madrid will play against each other in the quarter final. I think many were hoping for these two to meet in the final.
I think, Man City will make it to go through, but it won't be easy, especially given the competition in Premier League is super-tight, with 3 teams having almost the same number of points. Real currently has a comfy 7 points advantage over Girona in LaLiga. If they keep it they would be able to rest their key players before games against Man City.
My picks/guesses for winners of other pairs: PSG, Atletico, Bayern
One thing I also hope is that Man City will not meet Real Madrid in the quarter-finals. But in reality the two of them actually had to meet each other in the quarter-finals. I'm also pretty sure Man City will win. Real Madrid they are strong. But sometimes the effectiveness of their attacks decreases. In contrast to Man City, they rarely lose focus in attacking.

As for the other matches, it's still difficult for me to guess. But about PSG I'm not sure they can go further.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on March 17, 2024, 10:43:08 AM
One thing I also hope is that Man City will not meet Real Madrid in the quarter-finals. But in reality the two of them actually had to meet each other in the quarter-finals. I'm also pretty sure Man City will win. Real Madrid they are strong. But sometimes the effectiveness of their attacks decreases. In contrast to Man City, they rarely lose focus in attacking.

As for the other matches, it's still difficult for me to guess. But about PSG I'm not sure they can go further.
I think too early with Madrid have to face Manchester City and the drawing quarter final format not balance yet to be final with other batch most of weakness team. In the other batch Manchester City, Madrid, Bayern Munich are the top teams will be eliminated in the final because one of them will qualify to final round.

Last season, Madrid faced Manchester City in the semifinal and have eliminated with aggregate bigger score above 5-1 and wish this time Madrid can defeat Manchester City and qualify until final stage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 17, 2024, 02:18:54 PM
One thing I also hope is that Man City will not meet Real Madrid in the quarter-finals. But in reality the two of them actually had to meet each other in the quarter-finals. I'm also pretty sure Man City will win. Real Madrid they are strong. But sometimes the effectiveness of their attacks decreases. In contrast to Man City, they rarely lose focus in attacking.

As for the other matches, it's still difficult for me to guess. But about PSG I'm not sure they can go further.
I think too early with Madrid have to face Manchester City and the drawing quarter final format not balance yet to be final with other batch most of weakness team. In the other batch Manchester City, Madrid, Bayern Munich are the top teams will be eliminated in the final because one of them will qualify to final round.

Last season, Madrid faced Manchester City in the semifinal and have eliminated with aggregate bigger score above 5-1 and wish this time Madrid can defeat Manchester City and qualify until final stage.
Well, it's true, I think their meeting was too soon, because I also expected them to meet in the final round, but the results of the draw say they have to meet in the quarter-finals. Of course this is not in accordance with what we expected.

Last season it was Manchester City who got rid of Real Madrid, and 2 seasons before that it was Real Madrid who got rid of Manchester City. It will be very interesting to see who is eliminated in this round, and it is definitely difficult for us to predict that.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 17, 2024, 03:25:48 PM
Last season it was Manchester City who got rid of Real Madrid, and 2 seasons before that it was Real Madrid who got rid of Manchester City. It will be very interesting to see who is eliminated in this round, and it is definitely difficult for us to predict that.

The big day is ahead, I have to stock up on snacks and stress balls. It's like a rollercoaster with extra anxiety and fewer seatbelts :)

This is a fierce match and I don't think there is a favorite team in this match.
Real Madrid has extra motivation to beat Manchester City. because last season, City eliminated Real Madrid in the Champions League semifinals.
In the quarter-final match, Real Madrid will host the first leg.
And this must be maximized well by Madrid and I think Real Madrid is better than ever
Moreover, Courtois and Militao could be available to face Manchester City in the Champions League quarter-finals.
So no excuse, the fans want Madrid to win at home...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on March 17, 2024, 08:12:09 PM
I think too early with Madrid have to face Manchester City and the drawing quarter final format not balance yet to be final with other batch most of weakness team. In the other batch Manchester City, Madrid, Bayern Munich are the top teams will be eliminated in the final because one of them will qualify to final round.

Last season, Madrid faced Manchester City in the semifinal and have eliminated with aggregate bigger score above 5-1 and wish this time Madrid can defeat Manchester City and qualify until final stage.

This is football, so we should understand that UEFA is trying to give us exciting fixtures every season. From the recent draws, we can understand that there could be an underdog who might possibly make it to the finals. City vs. Madrid, Arsenal vs. Bayern are indeed two crackers to watch out for.

The crucial is Arteta’s decision on the lineup.
I have found the inexperience of some players in UCL, especially Saka when against Porto.
And if Trossard was not there then Arsenal won’t be talking about the UCL quarter-final.
BTW. Bayern was chasing Raya, Rice, and Havertz in the summer, but now they are forced to face them in the Champions League.
Get ready for some intense action...

Should we be talking about inexperience now? If we are to do so, Lazio shouldn't have defeated Bayern in the first leg. We can't just judge a player's poor performance with one game. FC Porto were very good. If they were to play other top teams like City and Real Madrid, it could have been the same result. The reason why Arsenal found it very difficult was because FC Porto played only defensive football. Unlike Leipzig, which played attacking football and made things very difficult for Real Madrid.

As it stands, Arsenal is a better side this season than Bayern. Even with Bayern's experience, it would take a moment to eliminate them, and that moment might be this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on March 17, 2024, 10:05:04 PM
Last season it was Manchester City who got rid of Real Madrid, and 2 seasons before that it was Real Madrid who got rid of Manchester City. It will be very interesting to see who is eliminated in this round, and it is definitely difficult for us to predict that.

The big day is ahead, I have to stock up on snacks and stress balls. It's like a rollercoaster with extra anxiety and fewer seatbelts :)
I'm not sure what will happen in this season. Sometimes, they are beyond our expectations.
But, I don't think Real Madrid will make it this season. If we consider several reasons, Man City should be much further ready, stronger lineups, and also squad entirely. They have Haaland, de Bruyne, and you can see more on lineup, they are much more tough.

But, surely, it seems like an early final, again.

As it stands, Arsenal is a better side this season than Bayern. Even with Bayern's experience, it would take a moment to eliminate them, and that moment might be this season.
I also thought like this. But, if Arsenal's performance is not far from the previous match in Round 16, I am not sure they will beat Bayern easily.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Emmanuel1 on March 18, 2024, 07:53:59 AM
The draws for the quarter finals of UEFA champions League 2023-2024 season has been done and dusted.
*Arsenal vs Bayern Munich
*Real Madrid vs Manchester City
*PSG vs Barcelona
*Dortmund vs Atletico Madrid
The draws of the quarter-finals for the UEFA champions League 2023-2024 season,is a nice one.
These are my predictions for all the games: Arsenal advance, real Madrid advance, Barcelona advance and Atletico advance to semi-finals. There's my opinion.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 18, 2024, 10:45:10 AM
Last season it was Manchester City who got rid of Real Madrid, and 2 seasons before that it was Real Madrid who got rid of Manchester City. It will be very interesting to see who is eliminated in this round, and it is definitely difficult for us to predict that.

The big day is ahead, I have to stock up on snacks and stress balls. It's like a rollercoaster with extra anxiety and fewer seatbelts :)
I'm not sure what will happen in this season. Sometimes, they are beyond our expectations.
But, I don't think Real Madrid will make it this season. If we consider several reasons, Man City should be much further ready, stronger lineups, and also squad entirely. They have Haaland, de Bruyne, and you can see more on lineup, they are much more tough.
Man City looks like the better team right now but there are still other factors to consider in this match up. One of that is their current position in the domestic league. Real Madrid has at least two games in La Liga to rest their best players and prepare for the Champions League but Man City do not have the same luxury because of Arsenal and Liverpool.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: joniboini on March 18, 2024, 03:25:45 PM
These are my predictions for all the games: Arsenal advance, real Madrid advance, Barcelona advance and Atletico advance to semi-finals. There's my opinion.
That's some brave picks. What makes you believe Bayern Munich will lose to Arsenal, or PSG beating Barca? City vs Madrid is also quite different from my personal prediction. Bayern Munich is in an upward trend recently, and while they don't always play good football it is evident that Arsenal is not that great on the UCL. Needing to win on extra time against Porto shows that they can struggle against team that defend well. Against City and Liverpool, they managed to win due to defensive errors iirc, so they need a little bit luck if they want to do the same thing against Bayern.

Personally, I hope there will be an upset so two favorites get kicked out early to make the finals more interesting to watch.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on March 18, 2024, 05:00:10 PM
Last season it was Manchester City who got rid of Real Madrid, and 2 seasons before that it was Real Madrid who got rid of Manchester City. It will be very interesting to see who is eliminated in this round, and it is definitely difficult for us to predict that.

The big day is ahead, I have to stock up on snacks and stress balls. It's like a rollercoaster with extra anxiety and fewer seatbelts :)
I'm not sure what will happen in this season. Sometimes, they are beyond our expectations.
But, I don't think Real Madrid will make it this season. If we consider several reasons, Man City should be much further ready, stronger lineups, and also squad entirely. They have Haaland, de Bruyne, and you can see more on lineup, they are much more tough.
Man City looks like the better team right now but there are still other factors to consider in this match up. One of that is their current position in the domestic league. Real Madrid has at least two games in La Liga to rest their best players and prepare for the Champions League but Man City do not have the same luxury because of Arsenal and Liverpool.
Who knows if it will be a revenge time for Madrid to City. It is just too soon for us to see these two giants clash in the quarter finals, which will make one of them to be eliminated out of the league. Walker will not be giving Vini any chance to penetrate their defense from his wing, and we saw that last season. However, Vini has improved better than last season, and he can strike from outside the 18 yard box without getting into the box, which makes him more dangerous. I feel that the winner in this match will be the club to win the Champions League, because that day will be like the final day match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 18, 2024, 09:22:53 PM
Last season it was Manchester City who got rid of Real Madrid, and 2 seasons before that it was Real Madrid who got rid of Manchester City. It will be very interesting to see who is eliminated in this round, and it is definitely difficult for us to predict that.

The big day is ahead, I have to stock up on snacks and stress balls. It's like a rollercoaster with extra anxiety and fewer seatbelts :)
I'm not sure what will happen in this season. Sometimes, they are beyond our expectations.
But, I don't think Real Madrid will make it this season. If we consider several reasons, Man City should be much further ready, stronger lineups, and also squad entirely. They have Haaland, de Bruyne, and you can see more on lineup, they are much more tough.
Man City looks like the better team right now but there are still other factors to consider in this match up. One of that is their current position in the domestic league. Real Madrid has at least two games in La Liga to rest their best players and prepare for the Champions League but Man City do not have the same luxury because of Arsenal and Liverpool.
Who knows if it will be a revenge time for Madrid to City. It is just too soon for us to see these two giants clash in the quarter finals, which will make one of them to be eliminated out of the league. Walker will not be giving Vini any chance to penetrate their defense from his wing, and we saw that last season. However, Vini has improved better than last season, and he can strike from outside the 18 yard box without getting into the box, which makes him more dangerous. I feel that the winner in this match will be the club to win the Champions League, because that day will be like the final day match.

The truth is that it is a shame that there has to be an Early final, of all your teams it seems to me that PSG benefited the most, and Dortmund , because a final would have been very good between Madrid and City, all this has a lot of influence on it new champion now, it seems to me that it is difficult, I couldn't say that between Madrid and City, Madrid will pass easily, because it won't be easy , but by now An Celotti will have Studied each and every one of Pep's training and strategies and that will do something Guariola is not known.

For me Ancelotti is one of the best in the world and this will make things different so that they can have the best possible from this confrontation, I think the difference will be made quickly from the beginning, I think Madrid will come out with everything wanting to make sure of a beginning and they will come out hard, with Bellingham, with Vinicius, Rodry, they will leave with everything they have.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on March 18, 2024, 09:59:43 PM
I'm not sure what will happen in this season. Sometimes, they are beyond our expectations.
But, I don't think Real Madrid will make it this season. If we consider several reasons, Man City should be much further ready, stronger lineups, and also squad entirely. They have Haaland, de Bruyne, and you can see more on lineup, they are much more tough.
If we analyze the squad quality, I agree that Man City seems more ready to win the UCL trophy this season. Man City looks having good players in every line, they are still the strongest squad in UCL. Man City also has no problem with injured players now, the injured players have recovered. Meanwhile Real Madrid still has some key players who are injured for a long time. I doubt they will miss the chance to play in important match against Man City.

When Man City has Haaland and De Bruyne in their lineup, it is not difficult to beat another team. It is great that both these players have recovered quickly from the injury.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 19, 2024, 08:32:33 AM
One thing I also hope is that Man City will not meet Real Madrid in the quarter-finals. But in reality the two of them actually had to meet each other in the quarter-finals. I'm also pretty sure Man City will win. Real Madrid they are strong. But sometimes the effectiveness of their attacks decreases. In contrast to Man City, they rarely lose focus in attacking.

As for the other matches, it's still difficult for me to guess. But about PSG I'm not sure they can go further.
I think too early with Madrid have to face Manchester City and the drawing quarter final format not balance yet to be final with other batch most of weakness team. In the other batch Manchester City, Madrid, Bayern Munich are the top teams will be eliminated in the final because one of them will qualify to final round.

Last season, Madrid faced Manchester City in the semifinal and have eliminated with aggregate bigger score above 5-1 and wish this time Madrid can defeat Manchester City and qualify until final stage.
yeah, it's too early. And many were disappointed with the lottery results. But this is what makes things interesting. Even last season I hoped that Real Madrid would not meet Man City in the semi-finals. But instead they met. And this time they even met earlier, namely in the quarter-finals and well, this was beyond everyone's expectations.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunderland on March 19, 2024, 11:54:54 AM
I hope we don't see another 1-0 full time result in the final round, for 4 consecutive seasons the final result in the Champions League has always been 1-0.
2019/2020 - Bayern vs PSG   1 - 0
2020/2021 - Chelsea vs Mancity    1 - 0
2021/2022 - Madrid vs Liverpool    1 - 0
2022.2023 - Mancity vs Inter    1 - 0

And for 3 consecutive years there have always been England clubs in the final round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 19, 2024, 01:57:47 PM
I hope we don't see another 1-0 full time result in the final round, for 4 consecutive seasons the final result in the Champions League has always been 1-0.
2019/2020 - Bayern vs PSG   1 - 0
2020/2021 - Chelsea vs Mancity    1 - 0
2021/2022 - Madrid vs Liverpool    1 - 0
2022.2023 - Mancity vs Inter    1 - 0
What's wrong with the 1-0 score line? I would rather see Finals like that than a high scoring game with plenty of defensive lapses. If you cannot appreciate the defense from these types of games, then you are free to switch to watching the NBA.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on March 19, 2024, 06:00:46 PM
Bayern Munich is in an upward trend recently, and while they don't always play good football it is evident that Arsenal is not that great on the UCL. Needing to win on extra time against Porto shows that they can struggle against team that defend well. Against City and Liverpool, they managed to win due to defensive errors iirc, so they need a little bit luck if they want to do the same thing against Bayern.

Lol, I really don't understand what you meant by defensive error. Do you mean Arsenal taking 4 points from Liverpool both home and away is a defensive error? Even beating Man City on penalties to win the Community Shield and taking 3 points in the EPL is also a defensive error? ;D. In the rules of football, 'if you don't take your chances, your opponent will torment you.'

My question: Is error not part of football? Arsenal choosing not to make such errors shows that they were the better side. Besides, Arsenal even gifted Liverpool a goal during their away game, which means Liverpool never scored any.

When a team plays defensive football, it's very difficult for them to transition to attacking football, which means their backline is never exposed and their frontline lacks momentum. Don't forget that Bayern Munich lost to Lazio 1-0 in the first leg, and Leipzig gave Madrid a tough time in the second leg, making Madrid look like a local club.

Inter Milan happens to be the only team that plays good attacking and defensive football, but sadly, they are out. Have you not wondered why City concede so much even with their good team? They choose to play more attacking football, thereby risking their backline. But I think Arsenal knows how to keep every position steady more in the Premier League, which means they have a lot to offer in this Champions League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunderland on March 20, 2024, 04:27:51 PM
I hope we don't see another 1-0 full time result in the final round, for 4 consecutive seasons the final result in the Champions League has always been 1-0.
2019/2020 - Bayern vs PSG   1 - 0
2020/2021 - Chelsea vs Mancity    1 - 0
2021/2022 - Madrid vs Liverpool    1 - 0
2022.2023 - Mancity vs Inter    1 - 0
What's wrong with the 1-0 score line? I would rather see Finals like that than a high scoring game with plenty of defensive lapses. If you cannot appreciate the defense from these types of games, then you are free to switch to watching the NBA.

There is nothing wrong with a 1-0 final result, and there is nothing wrong with expecting to see a different result to the previous 4 finals.
Why was I advised to watch the NBA because of that comment lol, everyone has their own way of enjoying a match.
A result of 1-0 = does not mean the match will definitely be boring or tense, and a high-scoring game doesn't necessarily mean there are a lot of mistakes with the defense.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on March 20, 2024, 04:36:52 PM
I hope we don't see another 1-0 full time result in the final round, for 4 consecutive seasons the final result in the Champions League has always been 1-0.
2019/2020 - Bayern vs PSG   1 - 0
2020/2021 - Chelsea vs Mancity    1 - 0
2021/2022 - Madrid vs Liverpool    1 - 0
2022.2023 - Mancity vs Inter    1 - 0
What's wrong with the 1-0 score line? I would rather see Finals like that than a high scoring game with plenty of defensive lapses. If you cannot appreciate the defense from these types of games, then you are free to switch to watching the NBA.
In fact, I would like to see the final match go to extra rounds and they can win in the extra rounds. I agree with you that I would like to see the final match be tight like that. But of course they have to play openly and attack, not play too carefully which will make the game monotonous.

Whoever will be in the final, I want them to be in their best condition, because that can make us watch the match more enthusiastically.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on March 21, 2024, 09:27:17 PM
There is nothing wrong with a 1-0 final result, and there is nothing wrong with expecting to see a different result to the previous 4 finals.
Why was I advised to watch the NBA because of that comment lol, everyone has their own way of enjoying a match.
A result of 1-0 = does not mean the match will definitely be boring or tense, and a high-scoring game doesn't necessarily mean there are a lot of mistakes with the defense.
Yep. It is not a big deal if the match ends with 1-0.
In the final match, both teams will play very carefully to minimize the chance of mistakes. So, the number of goals probably will be lower than the common matches. And both teams in the final must have almost the same strength, so the game of each teams will be equal. That's why we rarely saw the final match with big scores.

You can say it is a boring match, other can say it is a tight match. It is just a personal perception, dude!

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on March 21, 2024, 11:36:04 PM
I hope we don't see another 1-0 full time result in the final round, for 4 consecutive seasons the final result in the Champions League has always been 1-0.
2019/2020 - Bayern vs PSG   1 - 0
2020/2021 - Chelsea vs Mancity    1 - 0
2021/2022 - Madrid vs Liverpool    1 - 0
2022.2023 - Mancity vs Inter    1 - 0

And for 3 consecutive years there have always been England clubs in the final round.
Is it a coincidence that over four seasons the final has ended 1-0.  :o

English teams are always the best teams to qualify for the final phase of the final because we know clubs from the EPL have much better quality but I feel this season there is also one where they can finish in the final again.

My prediction is that Real Madrid or Manchester City will qualify for the final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 22, 2024, 10:24:24 AM
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What's wrong with the 1-0 score line? I would rather see Finals like that than a high scoring game with plenty of defensive lapses. If you cannot appreciate the defense from these types of games, then you are free to switch to watching the NBA.
In fact, I would like to see the final match go to extra rounds and they can win in the extra rounds. I agree with you that I would like to see the final match be tight like that. But of course they have to play openly and attack, not play too carefully which will make the game monotonous.
I don't mind extra time or penalty shootouts. I don't know about playing openly because important games like this are usually a mix of tight defense and counter-attacks. I won't be surprised if a single and winning goal is scored via a free kick, a corner, or a penalty.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on March 22, 2024, 10:50:30 PM
English teams are always the best teams to qualify for the final phase of the final because we know clubs from the EPL have much better quality but I feel this season there is also one where they can finish in the final again.
It is no problem whether the English teams or the teams from other leagues to be in the final.
I'm sure the strongest teams will be in the final. I don't think EPL teams are better, the teams from other leagues are also good. They won't reach the current round if they are not good enough.

My prediction is that Real Madrid or Manchester City will qualify for the final.
Agree. The winner of the match between Man City vs Real Madrid will be as the candidate of the champion.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on March 23, 2024, 09:46:47 AM
Agree. The winner of the match between Man City vs Real Madrid will be as the candidate of the champion.
Right, the strong candidate become the Champion League winner is Manchester City or Real Madrid will face each other on quarter final round. For Manchester City, they had faced difficult drawing match since last season,
face Bayern Munich in quarter final and defeated Madrid in semifinal. For this season has the same drawing but face Madrid early in quarter final than possibility will face Bayern Munich in semifinal.
For this season, I think madrid has better chance for qualifying to final and winning the champion league tittle this season than Manchester City, they has focus on domestic league because huge pressure from Arsenal and Liverpool.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 23, 2024, 11:01:32 AM
I hope we don't see another 1-0 full time result in the final round, for 4 consecutive seasons the final result in the Champions League has always been 1-0.
2019/2020 - Bayern vs PSG   1 - 0
2020/2021 - Chelsea vs Mancity    1 - 0
2021/2022 - Madrid vs Liverpool    1 - 0
2022.2023 - Mancity vs Inter    1 - 0

And for 3 consecutive years there have always been England clubs in the final round.
Well I understand what you mean. Because in the final match both teams played very carefully. But even though the result was more 1-0. But strangely the Finals are always very interesting. In a normal match, a 1-0 result is always boring. But in a 1-0 final it also still showed good play from both clubs. But I understand that sometimes we need different things that can make the atmosphere in the final match hotter. And matches that produce a lot of goals are always more interesting.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on March 23, 2024, 05:27:10 PM
I hope we don't see another 1-0 full time result in the final round, for 4 consecutive seasons the final result in the Champions League has always been 1-0.
2019/2020 - Bayern vs PSG   1 - 0
2020/2021 - Chelsea vs Mancity    1 - 0
2021/2022 - Madrid vs Liverpool    1 - 0
2022.2023 - Mancity vs Inter    1 - 0

And for 3 consecutive years there have always been England clubs in the final round.
Well I understand what you mean. Because in the final match both teams played very carefully. But even though the result was more 1-0. But strangely the Finals are always very interesting. In a normal match, a 1-0 result is always boring. But in a 1-0 final it also still showed good play from both clubs. But I understand that sometimes we need different things that can make the atmosphere in the final match hotter. And matches that produce a lot of goals are always more interesting.
Like you said, 1-0 shows that both teams are strong, amd they are worth to play the finals. This is because any finals that ha e so much goal would not be interesting. But the 1-0 will put everyone in tension and hope that the losing team might be able to equalize the goal. Let's see how this season final would end and the amount of goals. I cannot predict who will win the finals until the quarter final plays out.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 23, 2024, 11:05:31 PM
For this season, I think madrid has better chance for qualifying to final and winning the champion league tittle this season than Manchester City, they has focus on domestic league because huge pressure from Arsenal and Liverpool.
Manchester City can still focus on the Premier League and Champions League, and by the end of the season, you see them winning both league's trophies.

We saw them do that last season by winning Tremble trophies, we can see them repeating the same thing this season if possible.

Manchester City is not a small club you would say because of the pressure they are facing from the Premier League to lift its trophy would make them not focus on lifting the Champions League if possible.

If Manchester City should win Real Madrid in their home and away match, consider them the Champions League winner without losing their Premier League
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on March 24, 2024, 04:09:15 PM
For this season, I think madrid has better chance for qualifying to final and winning the champion league tittle this season than Manchester City, they has focus on domestic league because huge pressure from Arsenal and Liverpool.
Manchester City can still focus on the Premier League and Champions League, and by the end of the season, you see them winning both league's trophies.

We saw them do that last season by winning Tremble trophies, we can see them repeating the same thing this season if possible.

Manchester City is not a small club you would say because of the pressure they are facing from the Premier League to lift its trophy would make them not focus on lifting the Champions League if possible.

If Manchester City should win Real Madrid in their home and away match, consider them the Champions League winner without losing their Premier League
Are you aware the Manchester City player Kyle Walker is on injury, during the match played yesterday in Wembly stadium against Brazil. This will affect the performance of the club in the two competitions. I don't think that this season would be like last season for City, because they were more stronger last season than this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on March 24, 2024, 04:20:46 PM
I feel like the whole "teams should focus on just one thing" was basically broken last year. City won all three major ucps and that should show you that not all teams have that trouble. I understand that some teams may barely win one, most teams win none, so this is basically a defensive statement regards to those teams, like Arsenal being able to win premier league would be more than enough, they do not need anything else. But if you are a team like Bayern, City, Madrid then these three could win multiple a year, or they could just win none but they don't have to focus on just one of them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Obari on March 24, 2024, 10:45:04 PM
I hope we don't see another 1-0 full time result in the final round, for 4 consecutive seasons the final result in the Champions League has always been 1-0.
2019/2020 - Bayern vs PSG   1 - 0
2020/2021 - Chelsea vs Mancity    1 - 0
2021/2022 - Madrid vs Liverpool    1 - 0
2022.2023 - Mancity vs Inter    1 - 0
What's wrong with the 1-0 score line? I would rather see Finals like that than a high scoring game with plenty of defensive lapses. If you cannot appreciate the defense from these types of games, then you are free to switch to watching the NBA.

There is nothing wrong with a 1-0 final result, and there is nothing wrong with expecting to see a different result to the previous 4 finals.
Why was I advised to watch the NBA because of that comment lol, everyone has their own way of enjoying a match.
A result of 1-0 = does not mean the match will definitely be boring or tense, and a high-scoring game doesn't necessarily mean there are a lot of mistakes with the defense.
I think in the quater finals,there won't be much goals,and every team will be careful  of not conceding goals so that they can stand a chance of qualifying from that round of the game.
I don't think any of the teams will be able to play an over 2.5 goals in each of these games.The Arsenal vs Bayern Munich's game would have been filled with goals,but due to the strong defence of Arsenal,I think  the goals coming will be limited because Bayern won't be able to score more than one goal against Arsenal,where as Arsenal can get about two goals and just keep defending till the game gets over.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on March 25, 2024, 11:38:46 PM
I'm not surprised at all that Arsenal is a favourite against Bayern. Arsenal's stats in the Champions League group stage look better than Bayern's. Although Bayern has earned 16 points, and Arsenal 13, I think the German team had an easier group. In terms of average goals per game scored and lost, the stats suggest Arsenal is better in both offence and defence:
Arsenal: 2.7 scored and 0.7 lost
Bayern: 2.0 scored and 1.0 lost

The same stats for league games are at a similar level, but it's hard to disagree that the Premier League is much stronger than the Bundesliga.

That being said, it's a bit concerning that Arsenal struggled to get past Porto, as they needed a penalty shootout to go through, and I think Bayern is a better team than Porto.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 26, 2024, 03:20:51 AM
I'm not surprised at all that Arsenal is a favourite against Bayern. Arsenal's stats in the Champions League group stage look better than Bayern's. Although Bayern has earned 16 points, and Arsenal 13, I think the German team had an easier group. In terms of average goals per game scored and lost, the stats suggest Arsenal is better in both offence and defence:
Arsenal: 2.7 scored and 0.7 lost
Bayern: 2.0 scored and 1.0 lost

The same stats for league games are at a similar level, but it's hard to disagree that the Premier League is much stronger than the Bundesliga.

That being said, it's a bit concerning that Arsenal struggled to get past Porto, as they needed a penalty shootout to go through, and I think Bayern is a better team than Porto.
Well, I think this is normal. considering that Arsenal is in the Premier League and is even at the top of the current standings, even above Man City. So it is very natural to see that Arsenal will be favourites. But this season, Bayern is not even at the top of the Bundesliga. It's just that the performance of both at UCL is actually quite equal. but if i had to bet then i would choose to bet on arsenal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 26, 2024, 06:47:09 AM
^ There are teams that won the Champions League even though they struggled to compete in their respective domestic league. Di Matteo's 2012 Chelsea comes to mind and who could forget how many times Real Madrid had done that too?

Bayern could be satisfied settling for second place in Bundesliga while Arsenal do not have that same option in the Premier League right now. How do you think that's going to affect preparation of both teams?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: MRY on March 26, 2024, 08:12:50 AM
Well, I think this is normal. considering that Arsenal is in the Premier League and is even at the top of the current standings, even above Man City. So it is very natural to see that Arsenal will be favourites. But this season, Bayern is not even at the top of the Bundesliga. It's just that the performance of both at UCL is actually quite equal. but if i had to bet then i would choose to bet on arsenal.
Bayern Munich seems to have no enthusiasm anymore and prefers to remain in second place in the Bundesliga this season, because if you look at the difference in points between the positions of Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich, there is a 10 point difference in victory.
This means that Bayern Munich must always win in the next match until this season ends. I am sure for Bayern Munich this is not easy to do, therefore I am sure they will only maintain their position in second place until this season's Bundesliga is finished.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 26, 2024, 04:29:34 PM
^ There are teams that won the Champions League even though they struggled to compete in their respective domestic league. Di Matteo's 2012 Chelsea comes to mind and who could forget how many times Real Madrid had done that too?

Bayern could be satisfied settling for second place in Bundesliga while Arsenal do not have that same option in the Premier League right now. How do you think that's going to affect preparation of both teams?
This will not affect the preparations of these two teams, I mean they will still prepare as well as possible for the match they will play, there is no reason for them not to prepare for this match as well as possible.

Maybe Bayern Munich will focus more on the Champions League, because in the Bundsliga their chances can be said to be closed, but Arsenal will do the same thing, even though in the Premier League they will also go all out to win the title this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 26, 2024, 06:42:34 PM
Well, I think this is normal. considering that Arsenal is in the Premier League and is even at the top of the current standings, even above Man City. So it is very natural to see that Arsenal will be favourites. But this season, Bayern is not even at the top of the Bundesliga. It's just that the performance of both at UCL is actually quite equal. but if i had to bet then i would choose to bet on arsenal.
Bayern Munich seems to have no enthusiasm anymore and prefers to remain in second place in the Bundesliga this season, because if you look at the difference in points between the positions of Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich, there is a 10 point difference in victory.
This means that Bayern Munich must always win in the next match until this season ends. I am sure for Bayern Munich this is not easy to do, therefore I am sure they will only maintain their position in second place until this season's Bundesliga is finished.

You are right, things can sometimes get complicated even for the teams that have the most experience of everything, I have always seen Bayern as one of the best teams, however when I compare with Leverkusen things usually change because they are now second. , when in previous seasons they were somewhat bad but recovered quickly, then this means that things can be seen in a different way, Leverkusen champion of the Bundeslia, and Bayern putting all their efforts so that in the UCL they do things better , this is similar to what happened to Madrid in one season, they put all their effort into the UCL and dropped the League, where Barcelona won it, the curious thing about all this is that I believed that Bayern's main contender was Dortmund, but without a doubt Xabi's team makes the difference.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 26, 2024, 10:09:04 PM
I hope we don't see another 1-0 full time result in the final round, for 4 consecutive seasons the final result in the Champions League has always been 1-0.
2019/2020 - Bayern vs PSG   1 - 0
2020/2021 - Chelsea vs Mancity    1 - 0
2021/2022 - Madrid vs Liverpool    1 - 0
2022.2023 - Mancity vs Inter    1 - 0

And for 3 consecutive years there have always been England clubs in the final round.
Well, the expectation of finals is to witness a tough match and not the one to see many goals happening in the said final match. What people are after is to see who wins the finals and go home with the trophy. Whether the finals ends in a goal or many goals or even penalty shootout, it doesn't matter because what would enter into history is that said team wins the finals and that's what counts and not by the number of goals scored.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 27, 2024, 04:31:56 AM
Well, I think this is normal. considering that Arsenal is in the Premier League and is even at the top of the current standings, even above Man City. So it is very natural to see that Arsenal will be favourites. But this season, Bayern is not even at the top of the Bundesliga. It's just that the performance of both at UCL is actually quite equal. but if i had to bet then i would choose to bet on arsenal.
Bayern Munich seems to have no enthusiasm anymore and prefers to remain in second place in the Bundesliga this season, because if you look at the difference in points between the positions of Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich, there is a 10 point difference in victory.
This means that Bayern Munich must always win in the next match until this season ends. I am sure for Bayern Munich this is not easy to do, therefore I am sure they will only maintain their position in second place until this season's Bundesliga is finished.
Correct. Maybe for Bayern they just need to maintain their current position in second place in the Bundesliga. Because Leverkusen has not been defeated there until now. And with such a large difference in points, Bayern also realized that this season would belong to Leverkusen in the Bundesliga. So Bayern might fight harder in the UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on March 27, 2024, 11:23:09 AM
Bayern Munich seems to have no enthusiasm anymore and prefers to remain in second place in the Bundesliga this season, because if you look at the difference in points between the positions of Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich, there is a 10 point difference in victory.
This means that Bayern Munich must always win in the next match until this season ends. I am sure for Bayern Munich this is not easy to do, therefore I am sure they will only maintain their position in second place until this season's Bundesliga is finished.
Correct. Maybe for Bayern they just need to maintain their current position in second place in the Bundesliga. Because Leverkusen has not been defeated there until now. And with such a large difference in points, Bayern also realized that this season would belong to Leverkusen in the Bundesliga. So Bayern might fight harder in the UCL.
[/quote]Bayern Munich opportunity by winning Bundesliga almost over after remaining 10 points from Bayern Leverkusen with unbeaten performance, seems forget for winning domestic league and Bayern have to fight with Champion League as the only one tittle left. Its become bad record for Thomas Tuchel and Bayern Munich always get one or two trophies every season but after losing from Bayern Leverkusen in domestic league I think they have focus for winning champion league.
In quarter final lead head to head when facing Arsenal could be good capital for winning on the first and second legs matches before facing Manchester City or Real Madrid in semifinal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Litzki1990 on March 27, 2024, 01:32:28 PM
Well, I think this is normal. considering that Arsenal is in the Premier League and is even at the top of the current standings, even above Man City. So it is very natural to see that Arsenal will be favourites. But this season, Bayern is not even at the top of the Bundesliga. It's just that the performance of both at UCL is actually quite equal. but if i had to bet then i would choose to bet on arsenal.
Bayern Munich seems to have no enthusiasm anymore and prefers to remain in second place in the Bundesliga this season, because if you look at the difference in points between the positions of Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich, there is a 10 point difference in victory.
This means that Bayern Munich must always win in the next match until this season ends. I am sure for Bayern Munich this is not easy to do, therefore I am sure they will only maintain their position in second place until this season's Bundesliga is finished.
Instead of focusing entirely on the Bundesliga, Bayern Munich should be focusing entirely on the Champions League right now. Bundesliga Bayern Munich is not in a good position at all and is in the second position of the points table. At the moment, they have enough points gap with the team that is number one in the points table. It is assumed that until the end of the season, the position of Bayern Munich may be in the second position of the points table. Since Bayern Munich's position is more likely to be second in the points table, if they fully focus on the Champions League, Bayern Munich will have a lot of chances to do well in the Champions League. Bayern Munich are trying to regain the Bundesliga title but this season may prove to be a tough one for them to regain the title.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on March 27, 2024, 05:00:05 PM
Well, I think this is normal. considering that Arsenal is in the Premier League and is even at the top of the current standings, even above Man City. So it is very natural to see that Arsenal will be favourites. But this season, Bayern is not even at the top of the Bundesliga. It's just that the performance of both at UCL is actually quite equal. but if i had to bet then i would choose to bet on arsenal.
Bayern Munich seems to have no enthusiasm anymore and prefers to remain in second place in the Bundesliga this season, because if you look at the difference in points between the positions of Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich, there is a 10 point difference in victory.
This means that Bayern Munich must always win in the next match until this season ends. I am sure for Bayern Munich this is not easy to do, therefore I am sure they will only maintain their position in second place until this season's Bundesliga is finished.
Bayern Munich is no more interested in winning their domestic league, because the chance of winning it is very slim. This will make them focus more on the champions league to see how far they can go this season. This is why it might be difficult for Arsenal to win them and qualify to the semifinals, because Arsenal is still chasing EPL title as they are still first on the day, and that can be a distraction for them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on March 27, 2024, 07:14:57 PM
Well, I think this is normal. considering that Arsenal is in the Premier League and is even at the top of the current standings, even above Man City. So it is very natural to see that Arsenal will be favourites. But this season, Bayern is not even at the top of the Bundesliga. It's just that the performance of both at UCL is actually quite equal. but if i had to bet then i would choose to bet on arsenal.
Bayern Munich seems to have no enthusiasm anymore and prefers to remain in second place in the Bundesliga this season, because if you look at the difference in points between the positions of Bayer Leverkusen and Bayern Munich, there is a 10 point difference in victory.
This means that Bayern Munich must always win in the next match until this season ends. I am sure for Bayern Munich this is not easy to do, therefore I am sure they will only maintain their position in second place until this season's Bundesliga is finished.
Instead of focusing entirely on the Bundesliga, Bayern Munich should be focusing entirely on the Champions League right now. Bundesliga Bayern Munich is not in a good position at all and is in the second position of the points table. At the moment, they have enough points gap with the team that is number one in the points table. It is assumed that until the end of the season, the position of Bayern Munich may be in the second position of the points table. Since Bayern Munich's position is more likely to be second in the points table, if they fully focus on the Champions League, Bayern Munich will have a lot of chances to do well in the Champions League. Bayern Munich are trying to regain the Bundesliga title but this season may prove to be a tough one for them to regain the title.
Your opinion concerning why Bayern Munich should be more focused on the UEFA Champions League competition instead of the German Bundesliga is absolutely valid and I buy the same idea with you mate. Bayern Munich started the season on a very good note both in the German Bundesliga and in the UEFA Champions League but during the course of the season, they started underperforming in the German league which mafe them to drop so many points which resulted to their current position in the league. Bayern Munich is 10 points behind league leaders Bayer Leverkusen and considering the fact that Bayer Leverkusen which is managed by Xabi is yet to lose lla league game after 26 matches, I don't think they're gonna let Bayern Munich catch up with them in the league title table talk more winning the league ahead of them.
So it is in the UEFA Champions League competition that Bayern Munich have the chance of finishing the season with a major trophy this season. They play English Premier League club Arsenal in the quarter finals of the competition and considering the experience of players in both teams, I'm of the opinion that Bayern Munich will progress at the expense of Arsenal
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: DaNNy001 on March 27, 2024, 07:25:55 PM
I hope we don't see another 1-0 full time result in the final round, for 4 consecutive seasons the final result in the Champions League has always been 1-0.
2019/2020 - Bayern vs PSG   1 - 0
2020/2021 - Chelsea vs Mancity    1 - 0
2021/2022 - Madrid vs Liverpool    1 - 0
2022.2023 - Mancity vs Inter    1 - 0

And for 3 consecutive years there have always been England clubs in the final round.
Well, the expectation of finals is to witness a tough match and not the one to see many goals happening in the said final match. What people are after is to see who wins the finals and go home with the trophy. Whether the finals ends in a goal or many goals or even penalty shootout, it doesn't matter because what would enter into history is that said team wins the finals and that's what counts and not by the number of goals scored.
That's true but playing out a magical drama in the finals of every competition is most welcomed. One of the most magical finals in the champions league I have witnessed would be the Real Madrid LaDecima final game, I mean the atmosphere was filled with emotions as Madrid manage to squeeze themselves and get a goal in the hours of the game at normal time but later destroyed Athletico Madrid during the added extra times
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on March 27, 2024, 11:30:19 PM
Right, the strong candidate become the Champion League winner is Manchester City or Real Madrid will face each other on quarter final round.
Indeed. It is because most people predicted Man City and Real Madrid will be in the final round. People have a strong reason to predict this because Man City and Real Madrid have the strongest squads and they have good history in UCL. Sadly, they must fight one another in this round.

For this season, I think madrid has better chance for qualifying to final and winning the champion league tittle this season than Manchester City, they has focus on domestic league because huge pressure from Arsenal and Liverpool.
I don't know which team to have a higher chance. I only see both Man City and Real Madrid have the same chance.
Sure, in domestic league, Real Madrid can feel relaxed because they only have quite easy remaining matches. It is different with Man City which has some big matches.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 29, 2024, 01:48:45 PM
That's true but playing out a magical drama in the finals of every competition is most welcomed. One of the most magical finals in the champions league I have witnessed would be the Real Madrid LaDecima final game, I mean the atmosphere was filled with emotions as Madrid manage to squeeze themselves and get a goal in the hours of the game at normal time but later destroyed Athletico Madrid during the added extra times
That was the moment when Real Madrid destroyed Atletico Madrid, where actually Atletico Madrid was at the forefront of becoming champions in the Champions League. However, the goal from Ramos' header buried their dreams because it was a disaster goal.

In the extra round Atletico Madrid's mentality seemed to shrink and in the end Real Madrid was able to score a goal and ensure they could become champions. That day, all Atletico Madrid supporters were completely silenced by Ramos' goal. It was one of those games that was full of emotions.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 29, 2024, 06:45:10 PM
Correct. Maybe for Bayern they just need to maintain their current position in second place in the Bundesliga. Because Leverkusen has not been defeated there until now. And with such a large difference in points, Bayern also realized that this season would belong to Leverkusen in the Bundesliga. So Bayern might fight harder in the UCL.
Bayern Munich opportunity by winning Bundesliga almost over after remaining 10 points from Bayern Leverkusen with unbeaten performance, seems forget for winning domestic league and Bayern have to fight with Champion League as the only one tittle left. Its become bad record for Thomas Tuchel and Bayern Munich always get one or two trophies every season but after losing from Bayern Leverkusen in domestic league I think they have focus for winning champion league.
In quarter final lead head to head when facing Arsenal could be good capital for winning on the first and second legs matches before facing Manchester City or Real Madrid in semifinal.
Yes, and it is possible that with Bayern focusing more on the UCL, it could make Bayern superior to Arsenal, who actually still have to concentrate on the Premier League because they are competing closely with Man City and Liverpool. But the UCL is always difficult to predict, especially when talking about the quarter-finals, semi-finals and finals in the UCL which are always full of surprises.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on March 29, 2024, 09:45:33 PM
Yes, and it is possible that with Bayern focusing more on the UCL, it could make Bayern superior to Arsenal, who actually still have to concentrate on the Premier League because they are competing closely with Man City and Liverpool. But the UCL is always difficult to predict, especially when talking about the quarter-finals, semi-finals and finals in the UCL which are always full of surprises.
UCL always difficult to predict although some team bad performed in domestic league has motivate for winning in champion league, Atletico Madrid show us how difference motivate between domestic league and champion league although has inconsistency performance in domestic league success defeating Inter Milan has quit well performance in domestic league and lead top position with many points left.
Bayern get motivate defeating Arsenal and UCL the last chance for getting tittle this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on March 30, 2024, 03:50:58 PM
Yes, and it is possible that with Bayern focusing more on the UCL, it could make Bayern superior to Arsenal, who actually still have to concentrate on the Premier League because they are competing closely with Man City and Liverpool. But the UCL is always difficult to predict, especially when talking about the quarter-finals, semi-finals and finals in the UCL which are always full of surprises.
UCL always difficult to predict although some team bad performed in domestic league has motivate for winning in champion league, Atletico Madrid show us how difference motivate between domestic league and champion league although has inconsistency performance in domestic league success defeating Inter Milan has quit well performance in domestic league and lead top position with many points left.
Bayern get motivate defeating Arsenal and UCL the last chance for getting tittle this season.
Of course the Champions League is a place where all the big surprises can happen. No matter how bad their performance is in the domestic league, when they are in the Champions League they will perform as well as possible.

Atletico Madrid proved it to us in the round of 16 when they beat Inter Milan. In terms of performance, Inter Milan is actually better than Atletico Madrid, but the match is not determined by their performance, but is determined by what they can do on the field.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr. Allcrypto on March 30, 2024, 09:56:33 PM
Yes, and it is possible that with Bayern focusing more on the UCL, it could make Bayern superior to Arsenal, who actually still have to concentrate on the Premier League because they are competing closely with Man City and Liverpool. But the UCL is always difficult to predict, especially when talking about the quarter-finals, semi-finals and finals in the UCL which are always full of surprises.
UCL always difficult to predict although some team bad performed in domestic league has motivate for winning in champion league, Atletico Madrid show us how difference motivate between domestic league and champion league although has inconsistency performance in domestic league success defeating Inter Milan has quit well performance in domestic league and lead top position with many points left.
Bayern get motivate defeating Arsenal and UCL the last chance for getting tittle this season.
Of course the Champions League is a place where all the big surprises can happen. No matter how bad their performance is in the domestic league, when they are in the Champions League they will perform as well as possible.

The champions league is like another world entirely for some team and no matter how bad they perform in their respective league their performance always changes when they face  any team in the champions league. Sometimes you might want to judge a team by how badly they have been performing in their league and maybe the other have been doing exceedingly well but when the two teams face off the end result might shock you because the poorly performed team might turn out to be the winner.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on March 31, 2024, 03:43:50 PM
Of course the Champions League is a place where all the big surprises can happen. No matter how bad their performance is in the domestic league, when they are in the Champions League they will perform as well as possible.

The champions league is like another world entirely for some team and no matter how bad they perform in their respective league their performance always changes when they face  any team in the champions league. Sometimes you might want to judge a team by how badly they have been performing in their league and maybe the other have been doing exceedingly well but when the two teams face off the end result might shock you because the poorly performed team might turn out to be the winner.
One of the things that can make us see this is when they have very high motivation when they are in the Champions League, because they know that this is the biggest competition in Europe and it is very difficult to get a place there.

This is something that makes the Champions League so popular. There are even several teams that continue to chase the title in the Champions League and they don't seem to prioritize the Domestic League because they are very strong there.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 31, 2024, 08:58:57 PM
The champions league is like another world entirely for some team and no matter how bad they perform in their respective league their performance always changes when they face  any team in the champions league. Sometimes you might want to judge a team by how badly they have been performing in their league and maybe the other have been doing exceedingly well but when the two teams face off the end result might shock you because the poorly performed team might turn out to be the winner.
One of the things that can make us see this is when they have very high motivation when they are in the Champions League, because they know that this is the biggest competition in Europe and it is very difficult to get a place there.


Yep. The Champions League is the main caste championship on the European Continent and is a championship full of prestige.
The Champions League is also a benchmark for a club's success in achieving achievements.
Apart from that, the financial factor or value of the prizes is quite tempting for the participating clubs.
Prize money incentives are calculated from each stage of the competition, from the preliminary round to the final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on March 31, 2024, 09:56:01 PM
Of course the Champions League is a place where all the big surprises can happen. No matter how bad their performance is in the domestic league, when they are in the Champions League they will perform as well as possible.

Atletico Madrid proved it to us in the round of 16 when they beat Inter Milan. In terms of performance, Inter Milan is actually better than Atletico Madrid, but the match is not determined by their performance, but is determined by what they can do on the field.
Bigger reward for teams success qualified until largest round make many team motivates for winning every match in champion league, its not problem with poor performance in domestic league but they have high motivation for winning in champion League.
Inter Milan become victim of Atletico Madrid with very poor performance in domestic league and their position outside from top fourth but success make Inter for the first time eliminated on 16 of round although lead top position in Serie A.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 02, 2024, 05:53:18 PM
One of the things that can make us see this is when they have very high motivation when they are in the Champions League, because they know that this is the biggest competition in Europe and it is very difficult to get a place there.


Yep. The Champions League is the main caste championship on the European Continent and is a championship full of prestige.
The Champions League is also a benchmark for a club's success in achieving achievements.
Apart from that, the financial factor or value of the prizes is quite tempting for the participating clubs.
Prize money incentives are calculated from each stage of the competition, from the preliminary round to the final.
So that's what makes many teams fight for at least a place in the Champions League, it is a stage for them even though they failed in the group stage, but at least they can show that they are capable of breaking through and being there.

Of course, the financial factors they will receive are also tempting, they can use this as capital to improve their squad in the coming season. Because one of the factors that cannot be separated from football is the financial factor.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 03, 2024, 03:38:57 AM
So that's what makes many teams fight for at least a place in the Champions League, it is a stage for them even though they failed in the group stage, but at least they can show that they are capable of breaking through and being there.

Of course, the financial factors they will receive are also tempting, they can use this as capital to improve their squad in the coming season. Because one of the factors that cannot be separated from football is the financial factor.
Financial factors are always important in everything. Including in the world of football, of course. For example, Barcelona also experienced a setback after they were in an unstable financial situation. And Juventus is also experiencing the same thing this season. But there are also teams that have strong financial strength but are still unable to maximize the strength of the squad they have. Well it's quite varied. but if a club wins in the UCL then it is certain that they will also get big financial benefits. Apart from prizes as champion, there are also many other things. Like from advertisements and so on.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Paragon2 on April 03, 2024, 04:13:29 AM
So that's what makes many teams fight for at least a place in the Champions League, it is a stage for them even though they failed in the group stage, but at least they can show that they are capable of breaking through and being there.

Of course, the financial factors they will receive are also tempting, they can use this as capital to improve their squad in the coming season. Because one of the factors that cannot be separated from football is the financial factor.
Financial factors are always important in everything. Including in the world of football, of course. For example, Barcelona also experienced a setback after they were in an unstable financial situation. And Juventus is also experiencing the same thing this season. But there are also teams that have strong financial strength but are still unable to maximize the strength of the squad they have. Well it's quite varied. but if a club wins in the UCL then it is certain that they will also get big financial benefits. Apart from prizes as champion, there are also many other things. Like from advertisements and so on.

Usually if the clubs win they get huge benefits as a last minute prize and many big companies advertise with them. There is a lot of money in these ads that generate huge sums of money, and gambling sites in particular gravitate towards them. So it is very easy for a club to be financially strong if it can perform well throughout the season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunderland on April 03, 2024, 03:59:39 PM
So that's what makes many teams fight for at least a place in the Champions League, it is a stage for them even though they failed in the group stage, but at least they can show that they are capable of breaking through and being there.

Of course, the financial factors they will receive are also tempting, they can use this as capital to improve their squad in the coming season. Because one of the factors that cannot be separated from football is the financial factor.
Financial factors are always important in everything. Including in the world of football, of course. For example, Barcelona also experienced a setback after they were in an unstable financial situation. And Juventus is also experiencing the same thing this season. But there are also teams that have strong financial strength but are still unable to maximize the strength of the squad they have. Well it's quite varied. but if a club wins in the UCL then it is certain that they will also get big financial benefits. Apart from prizes as champion, there are also many other things. Like from advertisements and so on.

Usually if the clubs win they get huge benefits as a last minute prize and many big companies advertise with them. There is a lot of money in these ads that generate huge sums of money, and gambling sites in particular gravitate towards them. So it is very easy for a club to be financially strong if it can perform well throughout the season.

Because every club that manages to qualify for the Champions League will get $17M, win in group match get $3M and draw get $1M.
And the prize money is definitely bigger in the Rounds of 16 and above.
There is also another prize of around $650 million divided among all clubs (32) competing in the Champions League, the amount depends on their ranking in European competitions over the last 10 years.
Not to mention there is an additional prize around $325M from the Champions League live broadcast collaboration.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 03, 2024, 04:19:49 PM
So that's what makes many teams fight for at least a place in the Champions League, it is a stage for them even though they failed in the group stage, but at least they can show that they are capable of breaking through and being there.

Of course, the financial factors they will receive are also tempting, they can use this as capital to improve their squad in the coming season. Because one of the factors that cannot be separated from football is the financial factor.
Financial factors are always important in everything. Including in the world of football, of course. For example, Barcelona also experienced a setback after they were in an unstable financial situation. And Juventus is also experiencing the same thing this season. But there are also teams that have strong financial strength but are still unable to maximize the strength of the squad they have. Well it's quite varied. but if a club wins in the UCL then it is certain that they will also get big financial benefits. Apart from prizes as champion, there are also many other things. Like from advertisements and so on.
You give a good example when you say Barcelona, because as we can see Barcelona's current problems are closely related to their finances, and that has a big influence on their performance.

This is an example for other teams, because if they cannot manage their finances well then they will have financial problems in the future. And that will have a huge impact on their overall appearance. This is something that football clubs must not forget.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 03, 2024, 05:23:00 PM
You give a good example when you say Barcelona, because as we can see Barcelona's current problems are closely related to their finances, and that has a big influence on their performance.

This is an example for other teams, because if they cannot manage their finances well then they will have financial problems in the future. And that will have a huge impact on their overall appearance. This is something that football clubs must not forget.

Football is an industry that not only provides entertainment for society but also provides a living for millions of people throughout the world.
Football clubs as industry players must have more careful and accountable financial management.
Barcelona is a bad example of a club management system that does not limit their spending within normal limits.
If they had followed UEFA's rules regarding financial fair play more strictly, the problems they are currently facing would not have occurred
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on April 03, 2024, 05:27:49 PM
If City played against a weaker team this time around so that they could face a harder opponent later on the season when the schedule is less compact, they may had a chance, and to be fair they are Manchester City so they always have a chance. But looking at the current moment, even without a proper striker, I feel like Real Madrid has a better chance. Give City a break before the game and you will see their best, but they are going to play their third game within a week or something when they play against Madrid, which is a lot and I fear that they may not be at their best on the long run.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Litzki1990 on April 04, 2024, 04:41:52 PM
Yes, and it is possible that with Bayern focusing more on the UCL, it could make Bayern superior to Arsenal, who actually still have to concentrate on the Premier League because they are competing closely with Man City and Liverpool. But the UCL is always difficult to predict, especially when talking about the quarter-finals, semi-finals and finals in the UCL which are always full of surprises.
UCL always difficult to predict although some team bad performed in domestic league has motivate for winning in champion league, Atletico Madrid show us how difference motivate between domestic league and champion league although has inconsistency performance in domestic league success defeating Inter Milan has quit well performance in domestic league and lead top position with many points left.
Bayern get motivate defeating Arsenal and UCL the last chance for getting tittle this season.
Of course the Champions League is a place where all the big surprises can happen. No matter how bad their performance is in the domestic league, when they are in the Champions League they will perform as well as possible.

Atletico Madrid proved it to us in the round of 16 when they beat Inter Milan. In terms of performance, Inter Milan is actually better than Atletico Madrid, but the match is not determined by their performance, but is determined by what they can do on the field.
In every stage of Champions League every team tries their best and after trying their best those who perform very well go to the next round but those whose performance is of average quality do not go to the next round. A total of eight teams have now qualified for the quarter finals out of 16 teams in the Champions League competition. The top four teams from these 8 teams will again qualify for the semi-finals and the best two teams from the four teams will qualify for the finals and the best team from the tournament will win the title. Out of the 8 teams that have qualified for the quarter finals, any team like Manchester City or Real Madrid is going to be eliminated as Manchester City and Real Madrid will meet each other in the quarter finals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 04, 2024, 05:17:34 PM
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A total of eight teams have now qualified for the quarter finals out of 16 teams in the Champions League competition. The top four teams from these 8 teams will again qualify for the semi-finals and the best two teams from the four teams will qualify for the finals and the best team from the tournament will win the title.
You should stop posting the obvious things to make it appear you are posting something that is of value to the thread. Who doesn't know the tournament set up? You are not talking to noobs/newbies of Champions League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 04, 2024, 08:12:47 PM
You give a good example when you say Barcelona, because as we can see Barcelona's current problems are closely related to their finances, and that has a big influence on their performance.

This is an example for other teams, because if they cannot manage their finances well then they will have financial problems in the future. And that will have a huge impact on their overall appearance. This is something that football clubs must not forget.

Football is an industry that not only provides entertainment for society but also provides a living for millions of people throughout the world.
Football clubs as industry players must have more careful and accountable financial management.
Barcelona is a bad example of a club management system that does not limit their spending within normal limits.
If they had followed UEFA's rules regarding financial fair play more strictly, the problems they are currently facing would not have occurred
It's true, business and football cannot be separated from each other, they will continue to go hand in hand so the team must be able to have very good management to be able to manage it, because if not then be prepared for a situation where their finances will be difficult.

You are right, this has become an industry where not only players are involved, but also many people do business or work in it. It's a huge industry, and in fact I think it's probably the biggest industry especially in sports.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 04, 2024, 08:33:41 PM
If City played against a weaker team this time around so that they could face a harder opponent later on the season when the schedule is less compact, they may had a chance, and to be fair they are Manchester City so they always have a chance. But looking at the current moment, even without a proper striker, I feel like Real Madrid has a better chance. Give City a break before the game and you will see their best, but they are going to play their third game within a week or something when they play against Madrid, which is a lot and I fear that they may not be at their best on the long run.

Yep. Real Madrid was fortunate because they acted as hosts in the first leg. Apart from the home advantage, Real Madrid had a longer preparation time than City in this match.
And Real Madrid also has a better record against Manchester City when competing at the Santiago Bernabeu.
Los Galacticos has won three of five meetings at the Santiago Bernabeu since the 2012/13 season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on April 04, 2024, 11:43:10 PM
Yep. Real Madrid was fortunate because they acted as hosts in the first leg. Apart from the home advantage, Real Madrid had a longer preparation time than City in this match.
And Real Madrid also has a better record against Manchester City when competing at the Santiago Bernabeu.
Los Galacticos has won three of five meetings at the Santiago Bernabeu since the 2012/13 season.
Madrid has advantage with host for the first leg match and get free schedule one week more after last match against Athletic Bilbao on 1st April and get 10 days left before facing Manchester City. But problem with Manchester City have three days rest after facing Crystal Palace will away against Real Madrid.
For top teams have adapt well with busy schedule match and their manager make rotation before on domestic league match, but Real Madrid get advantage and must win for the first leg match if want make more easy with second leg if can win above two or three goals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on April 05, 2024, 12:10:49 AM
Yep. Real Madrid was fortunate because they acted as hosts in the first leg. Apart from the home advantage, Real Madrid had a longer preparation time than City in this match.
And Real Madrid also has a better record against Manchester City when competing at the Santiago Bernabeu.
Los Galacticos has won three of five meetings at the Santiago Bernabeu since the 2012/13 season.
Madrid has advantage with host for the first leg match and get free schedule one week more after last match against Athletic Bilbao on 1st April and get 10 days left before facing Manchester City. But problem with Manchester City have three days rest after facing Crystal Palace will away against Real Madrid.
For top teams have adapt well with busy schedule match and their manager make rotation before on domestic league match, but Real Madrid get advantage and must win for the first leg match if want make more easy with second leg if can win above two or three goals.
As a Real Madrid fan, I don't think it's an advantage to play the first leg of the UEFA Champions League quarter final game at home while playing the last game of the tie at Manchester City home. Unless Real Madrid wins the first leg with a convincing goal difference, I don't think they'll be able to win the tie because the second leg of the encounter which will take place at Etihad stadium will be played in front of Manchester City supporters so I expect them to get a good result in the second leg. However, I'm very optimistic that Real Madrid will eliminate Manchester City and progress to the next round
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 06, 2024, 10:43:50 AM
It doesn't look like last weekend's league results had any impact on the odds of an outright UCL winner. Odds for Man City dropped slightly from x2.80 to 2.85 after 0-0 draw against Arsenal at home.
Odds for Bayern and Dortmund remain unchanged despite Borussia surprisingly beating Bayern 0-2 in an away game and are x8.0 and x26.0 respectively. I guess bookies either don't put too much weight on the direct league games between teams still participating in the UCL, or maybe they consider Borussia's win as pure luck.
Odds for Borussia winning the next game in Madrid against Atletico are x4.70 which is starting to look like a potentially good bet.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 06, 2024, 02:08:57 PM
It doesn't look like last weekend's league results had any impact on the odds of an outright UCL winner. Odds for Man City dropped slightly from x2.80 to 2.85 after 0-0 draw against Arsenal at home.
Odds for Bayern and Dortmund remain unchanged despite Borussia surprisingly beating Bayern 0-2 in an away game and are x8.0 and x26.0 respectively. I guess bookies either don't put too much weight on the direct league games between teams still participating in the UCL, or maybe they consider Borussia's win as pure luck.
Odds for Borussia winning the next game in Madrid against Atletico are x4.70 which is starting to look like a potentially good bet.
Even though there is a decrease in opportunities, it is not a very deep decrease and in my opinion it is still normal when Manchester City decreases in opportunities. However, even if their chances decrease, it will not affect the course of the match.

They will try to improve what they did when they faced Arsenal. Real Madrid on the other hand, they brought valuable capital before the match took place. and whatever the results they receive in the last match, this match will be hot in my opinion.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 06, 2024, 08:17:23 PM
For top teams have adapt well with busy schedule match and their manager make rotation before on domestic league match, but Real Madrid get advantage and must win for the first leg match if want make more easy with second leg if can win above two or three goals.
Real Madrid just like Arsenal will have to make good use of the home advantage in the first leg before going for the second leg which will not be easier. The games are just a few days left, and the coaches have been getting ready for this game by ensuring not to over play the key players they have to prevent injuries and fatigue.

Manchester City still have Kyle Walker who is important injured, Nathan Ake also. Real Madrid have most key players fit for the game. Bayern have injury concerns, Sane and Manuel Neuer are the latest injury problems for Tuchel, their absence can affect the teams play.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on April 06, 2024, 10:19:50 PM
As a Real Madrid fan, I don't think it's an advantage to play the first leg of the UEFA Champions League quarter final game at home while playing the last game of the tie at Manchester City home. Unless Real Madrid wins the first leg with a convincing goal difference, I don't think they'll be able to win the tie because the second leg of the encounter which will take place at Etihad stadium will be played in front of Manchester City supporters so I expect them to get a good result in the second leg. However, I'm very optimistic that Real Madrid will eliminate Manchester City and progress to the next round
Agree. Actually, it is better to play away first for the Leg 1. The result of Leg 1 won't be the final aggregate, so there is still a chance in Leg 2. But the result in Leg 2 will determine whether a team to qualify or be eliminated from the competition. That's why in Leg 2, both teams will try to play all out, specifically for the team which is behind by the number of goals.

I just expect that Real Madrid can score at least 2 goals in Leg 1. And they should try to have no conceded goals. If this can happen, the chance to qualify for the next round will be higher. But if Real Madrid only scored a single goal, it will be very difficult to defend it in Leg 2. Well, I also support Real Madrid to qualify for the semi-final round.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 07, 2024, 11:11:58 PM
Things are not looking too rosy for Bayern ahead of their Tuesday's away game against Arsenal. First, they suffered a 0-2 loss to Dortmund last week and now they've lost 3-2 to Heidenheim, despite leading 0-2 in the first half.
In contrast, Arsenal scored another easy 3 points by comfortably beating Brighton 0-3 in an away game, which put them in the Premier League leading position, meaning the team's morale is probably super high right now.
Unless Bayern manages to snap out of their poorer form, they could get executed by Arsenal on Tuesday, as the London's team is very consistent this season and they surely know how to capitalise on opponents' mistakes.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 08, 2024, 06:14:06 AM
Things are not looking too rosy for Bayern ahead of their Tuesday's away game against Arsenal. First, they suffered a 0-2 loss to Dortmund last week and now they've lost 3-2 to Heidenheim, despite leading 0-2 in the first half.
In contrast, Arsenal scored another easy 3 points by comfortably beating Brighton 0-3 in an away game, which put them in the Premier League leading position, meaning the team's morale is probably super high right now.
Unless Bayern manages to snap out of their poorer form, they could get executed by Arsenal on Tuesday, as the London's team is very consistent this season and they surely know how to capitalise on opponents' mistakes.
Bayern continues to get bad results in the Bundesliga. And now everyone is starting to doubt Bayern. It's just that sometimes performance in the domestic league can be different from performance in the UCL. But Arsenal now really makes us trust them more. Holding Man City to a draw and beating Brighton with a big score is proof that Arteta's squad can indeed be the team that surprises everyone in the UCL this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunderland on April 09, 2024, 08:01:15 PM
Bayern continues to get bad results in the Bundesliga. And now everyone is starting to doubt Bayern. It's just that sometimes performance in the domestic league can be different from performance in the UCL. But Arsenal now really makes us trust them more. Holding Man City to a draw and beating Brighton with a big score is proof that Arteta's squad can indeed be the team that surprises everyone in the UCL this season.

Its time for Arsenal to break their curse in the Champions League, as the only big club from the Premier League who never won the Champions League.
Yep Arsenal must win tonight, also they must be able to win with a margin of more than 2 goals.
It would be very dangerous if they only won by 1 goal difference, Bayern could turn things around at home in the 2nd leg later.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on April 09, 2024, 10:07:36 PM
Update score Champions League

It's ongoing

Arsenal   vs  Bayern Munich
    1                       2


and also

Real Madrid   vs  Man City
    2                       1


It's still on minute of 50' and 47'.

Real Madrid is playing more dominantly this time. I know that being a host for  this match is exactly influencing. But, neither Man City or Real Madrid  will be influenced enough by  the place they are playing. Both are great and excellent clubs. None  doubts their strength. Now, whichever that becomes much stronger, able to optimiz3 the chance, and also get more chances to score who will  win this match.

Although right now, both Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are ahead or leading, this doesn't guarantee that they are the winner. Still many times to even be changing the result 
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunderland on April 09, 2024, 11:11:04 PM
Huh what a crazy game 2-2 and 3-3

I have to admit that Madrid vs Mancity match is a final too early, very intense and very entertaining.
Hopefully in the 2nd leg later, both of the teams will be plays attacking again

For Arsenal vs Bayern, even though there is still hope, it looks like it will be difficult for Arsenal to qualify.
Arsenal was playing better in the first 15 minutes, but it change after Bayern make it 1-1.
They looked panicked and wanted to score as soon as possible which lead to another goal from Bayern.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on April 09, 2024, 11:20:35 PM
Update score Champions League

It's ongoing

Arsenal   vs  Bayern Munich
    1                       2


and also

Real Madrid   vs  Man City
    2                       1


It's still on minute of 50' and 47'.

Real Madrid is playing more dominantly this time. I know that being a host for  this match is exactly influencing. But, neither Man City or Real Madrid  will be influenced enough by  the place they are playing. Both are great and excellent clubs. None  doubts their strength. Now, whichever that becomes much stronger, able to optimiz3 the chance, and also get more chances to score who will  win this match.

Although right now, both Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are ahead or leading, this doesn't guarantee that they are the winner. Still many times to even be changing the result
The scoreline tonight in the game between Real Madrid and Manchester City is something I never thought of would happen because I fancied the home team to crush Pep Guardiola Manchester City. This is without doubt one of the toughest games of the season in the UEFA Champions League competition. The away team opened the scoring but couldn't maintain their lead for long time as they allowed Real Madrid to equalize and even take the lead before halftime. In the second half of the game, I thought Real Madrid would further extend their lead but to my surprise, Manchester City scored two more goals in the game to overturn the deficit before Federico Valverde scored the last goal of the game. The second leg will take place at Manchester City's home ground and I expect a tougher game than we saw tonight.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on April 09, 2024, 11:23:55 PM
These were some super fun games. One ended 3-3 and the other ended 2-2. It was really great, specially the Man City vs Real game started like a rocket, 2-1 within first 15 minutes, that was some serious battle going on there. I do believe that its going to be very very fun second legs for these games, I can't think of any other teams that could have been this type of entertaining game like this. These are the best teams in the world who are having these type of games. Even at a tie, they are bringing so much of it right away. I hope that it could be at least this much fun for second leg as well.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: DaNNy001 on April 09, 2024, 11:25:16 PM
If City played against a weaker team this time around so that they could face a harder opponent later on the season when the schedule is less compact, they may had a chance, and to be fair they are Manchester City so they always have a chance. But looking at the current moment, even without a proper striker, I feel like Real Madrid has a better chance. Give City a break before the game and you will see their best, but they are going to play their third game within a week or something when they play against Madrid, which is a lot and I fear that they may not be at their best on the long run.

Yep. Real Madrid was fortunate because they acted as hosts in the first leg. Apart from the home advantage, Real Madrid had a longer preparation time than City in this match.
And Real Madrid also has a better record against Manchester City when competing at the Santiago Bernabeu.
Los Galacticos has won three of five meetings at the Santiago Bernabeu since the 2012/13 season.
Even at that real Madrid still tried and getting the draw is still not as bad as losing at home to Manchester city because when they get to Etihad stadium, the standard will be up and the they would need a straight win for them to qualify, I know even now a win is needed but at least the two teams are going to be the ones fighting for the win . From Manchester city point of view, they really out did themselves and played exceedingly well and with this results the pressure is now on real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 09, 2024, 11:45:01 PM
If City played against a weaker team this time around so that they could face a harder opponent later on the season when the schedule is less compact, they may had a chance, and to be fair they are Manchester City so they always have a chance. But looking at the current moment, even without a proper striker, I feel like Real Madrid has a better chance. Give City a break before the game and you will see their best, but they are going to play their third game within a week or something when they play against Madrid, which is a lot and I fear that they may not be at their best on the long run.

Yep. Real Madrid was fortunate because they acted as hosts in the first leg. Apart from the home advantage, Real Madrid had a longer preparation time than City in this match.
And Real Madrid also has a better record against Manchester City when competing at the Santiago Bernabeu.
Los Galacticos has won three of five meetings at the Santiago Bernabeu since the 2012/13 season.
Even at that real Madrid still tried and getting the draw is still not as bad as losing at home to Manchester city because when they get to Etihad stadium, the standard will be up and the they would need a straight win for them to qualify, I know even now a win is needed but at least the two teams are going to be the ones fighting for the win . From Manchester city point of view, they really out did themselves and played exceedingly well and with this results the pressure is now on real Madrid.
Of course, there is nobody that is having a higher advantage than the other, because it was a 3-3 draw. Etihad stadium would determine who will be the winner of the quarter finals. However, Manchester City can say that they have more advantage of winning the match than Real Madrid, because they are playing at home. Both clubs played impressively, but I never expected much goals in the match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 10, 2024, 08:57:15 AM
Of course, there is nobody that is having a higher advantage than the other, because it was a 3-3 draw. Etihad stadium would determine who will be the winner of the quarter finals. However, Manchester City can say that they have more advantage of winning the match than Real Madrid, because they are playing at home. Both clubs played impressively, but I never expected much goals in the match.
With the level of quality that both team showed the winner of the game will not be determined by the home and away advantage but by the team with the best strategy and tactics. Six goals were recorded in the game, that's a huge record, which proofs that the attackers from the two teams are sound. Real Madrid will plan to do in Etihad what Manchester City came to do in the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium, just as Arsenal will be planning a raid in Germany.

Manchester City played well without KDB, I am certain that Pep will introduce KDB for the second leg, he can be the difference.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 10, 2024, 09:39:11 AM
City has to be more confident now when they head home knowing they did well despite missing some of their key players in the first leg. I think they will open up as the huge favorite in the second leg. It's the same with Bayern Munich after drawing against Arsenal.

Depending on the the odds, I might bet on parlay for City and Bayern Munich to advance after leg 2.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 10, 2024, 12:40:29 PM
City has to be more confident now when they head home knowing they did well despite missing some of their key players in the first leg. I think they will open up as the huge favorite in the second leg. It's the same with Bayern Munich after drawing against Arsenal.

Depending on the the odds, I might bet on parlay for City and Bayern Munich to advance after leg 2.
What I didn't expect was Arsenal being held to a draw by Bayern. But for the draw between Man City and Madrid, I think it is no longer surprising. Because last season the same thing happened. And yes, Man City must now be more confident for the second leg. because they could hold the home team to a draw. So Man City should be superior when they host the second leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on April 10, 2024, 02:12:28 PM
City has to be more confident now when they head home knowing they did well despite missing some of their key players in the first leg. I think they will open up as the huge favorite in the second leg. It's the same with Bayern Munich after drawing against Arsenal.

Depending on the the odds, I might bet on parlay for City and Bayern Munich to advance after leg 2.
What I didn't expect was Arsenal being held to a draw by Bayern. But for the draw between Man City and Madrid, I think it is no longer surprising. Because last season the same thing happened. And yes, Man City must now be more confident for the second leg. because they could hold the home team to a draw. So Man City should be superior when they host the second leg.
Little surprised with Arsenal success being held draw Bayern Munich with usually always got loss bigger score although with home match. Bayern Munich performance very poor in this season from domestic league and had not quit well. Arsenal must improving thier performance on second leg match and seems they have chance for this time make Bayern Munich eliminated from quarter final.
Real Madrid always fail get advantage when playing on their home against Manchester City, being held draw must working hard for second leg match and need to win if want qualify.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 10, 2024, 03:51:36 PM
City has to be more confident now when they head home knowing they did well despite missing some of their key players in the first leg. I think they will open up as the huge favorite in the second leg. It's the same with Bayern Munich after drawing against Arsenal.

Depending on the the odds, I might bet on parlay for City and Bayern Munich to advance after leg 2.
What I didn't expect was Arsenal being held to a draw by Bayern. But for the draw between Man City and Madrid, I think it is no longer surprising. Because last season the same thing happened. And yes, Man City must now be more confident for the second leg. because they could hold the home team to a draw. So Man City should be superior when they host the second leg.
This victory will be something that will boost Manchester City's morality, because they can hold Real Madrid to a draw and it will be an advantage for them because in the second leg Manchester City will play as hosts.

I think their job was to be successful in this match, even though they didn't win, they managed to prevent Real Madrid from having the upper hand in the second leg. Because Real Madrid must be able to play under the pressure of Manchester City fans. This is getting interesting.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 10, 2024, 04:48:09 PM
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What I didn't expect was Arsenal being held to a draw by Bayern.
I wasn't that surprised. One thing I've realized is that Bayern probably gave up their challenge for the title and shifted their focus on the Champions League. They are only doing enough in Bundesliga to keep their second position but they are full force on CL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunderland on April 10, 2024, 07:51:45 PM
Feel a bit surprised after seeing the market for the 2nd leg of Bayern vs Arsenal, I thought Bayern would only get around 1.7x
It turns out that Arsenal is still the favorite if we look at the market today with the odds 2.51x and Bayern 2.55x.
Is this a sign that Arsenal will be qualify into the next round?

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Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: DaNNy001 on April 10, 2024, 08:20:15 PM
Of course, there is nobody that is having a higher advantage than the other, because it was a 3-3 draw. Etihad stadium would determine who will be the winner of the quarter finals. However, Manchester City can say that they have more advantage of winning the match than Real Madrid, because they are playing at home. Both clubs played impressively, but I never expected much goals in the match.
With the level of quality that both team showed the winner of the game will not be determined by the home and away advantage but by the team with the best strategy and tactics. Six goals were recorded in the game, that's a huge record, which proofs that the attackers from the two teams are sound. Real Madrid will plan to do in Etihad what Manchester City came to do in the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium, just as Arsenal will be planning a raid in Germany.

Manchester City played well without KDB, I am certain that Pep will introduce KDB for the second leg, he can be the difference.
Well am still a believer of what the home team crowd can do and I still stand strongly corrected that the home team fans at the Etihad might also offer an edge over the likes of their opponent come the return leg of this fixture.  Manchester City have really done well by not losing in the first place so the heat will be on Madrid to simulate what their opponent did at the bernabue of which I strongly believe they can also do because of the vibrant and attacking nature of their team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on April 10, 2024, 10:13:27 PM
City has to be more confident now when they head home knowing they did well despite missing some of their key players in the first leg. I think they will open up as the huge favorite in the second leg. It's the same with Bayern Munich after drawing against Arsenal.

Depending on the the odds, I might bet on parlay for City and Bayern Munich to advance after leg 2.
Real Madrid having a draw match at home with Manchester City is not a good result on their side because that will give Manchester the advantage to do everything within their power to make sure they win Real Madrid in the second leg.

I am looking at Real Madrid to qualify for the semi-finals, but as for Arsenal and Bayern Munich, let the best team win

 
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on April 10, 2024, 10:42:34 PM
.....Although right now, both Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are ahead or leading, this doesn't guarantee that they are the winner. Still many times to even be changing the result
The scoreline tonight in the game between Real Madrid and Manchester City is something I never thought of would happen because I fancied the home team to crush Pep Guardiola Manchester City. This is without doubt one of the toughest games of the season in the UEFA Champions League competition. The away team opened the scoring but couldn't maintain their lead for long time as they allowed Real Madrid to equalize and even take the lead before halftime. In the second half of the game, I thought Real Madrid would further extend their lead but to my surprise, Manchester City scored two more goals in the game to overturn the deficit before Federico Valverde scored the last goal of the game. The second leg will take place at Manchester City's home ground and I expect a tougher game than we saw tonight.
It makes perfect sense when they end up drawing. Because both Real Madrid and Man City are cool, they are all strong and tough. Even though the tactics Ancelotti used might be quite different, this is the result. Whether in the second leg, he will continue to use the same or different tactics. Of course, if you want to win, neither Real Madrid nor Man City can afford to be careless at all. I don't know, because they are both strong and effective, maybe whoever gets a much bigger profit factor, they will win. Yes, because they are both equally strong, it feels like watching the final is just as exciting.

Now, Currently competing are:
PSG vs Barcelona
  2              3

and Atlético Madrid vs Dortmund
               2                   1


Is it possible for La Liga clubs to get away with it all this time?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 10, 2024, 11:08:07 PM
.....Although right now, both Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are ahead or leading, this doesn't guarantee that they are the winner. Still many times to even be changing the result
The scoreline tonight in the game between Real Madrid and Manchester City is something I never thought of would happen because I fancied the home team to crush Pep Guardiola Manchester City. This is without doubt one of the toughest games of the season in the UEFA Champions League competition. The away team opened the scoring but couldn't maintain their lead for long time as they allowed Real Madrid to equalize and even take the lead before halftime. In the second half of the game, I thought Real Madrid would further extend their lead but to my surprise, Manchester City scored two more goals in the game to overturn the deficit before Federico Valverde scored the last goal of the game. The second leg will take place at Manchester City's home ground and I expect a tougher game than we saw tonight.
It makes perfect sense when they end up drawing. Because both Real Madrid and Man City are cool, they are all strong and tough. Even though the tactics Ancelotti used might be quite different, this is the result. Whether in the second leg, he will continue to use the same or different tactics. Of course, if you want to win, neither Real Madrid nor Man City can afford to be careless at all. I don't know, because they are both strong and effective, maybe whoever gets a much bigger profit factor, they will win. Yes, because they are both equally strong, it feels like watching the final is just as exciting.

Now, Currently competing are:
PSG vs Barcelona
  2              3

and Atlético Madrid vs Dortmund
               2                   1


Is it possible for La Liga clubs to get away with it all this time?
It is quite interesting to see that the two Spanish teams won their matches today. The one that surprised me was Barcelona winning PSG. I never expected PSG to allow this happen as k was thinking that it would be a draw game. Barcelona now have a upper hand of qualifying to the semifinals, as the return leg would be in Spain. Raphina is a good player and he showed his qualities in today's match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 10, 2024, 11:56:30 PM
Pretty horrible game by Dortmund to be honest. Both goals for Athletico were scored after rookie mistakes in defence. I guess the pressure paid off for the Spaniards.
Borussia should feel lucky for only losing by one goal, which will make the 2nd leg pretty interesting.
For what it's worth, Borussia managed to get 67% possession, which was a bit surprising, but that's probably due to Athletico's tactic.

Very precious win by Barcelona, the only team that managed to win an away game this leg. This puts them in a nice position for the 2nd leg game at home.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on April 11, 2024, 12:01:42 AM
Barcelona, Bayern, Real Madrid, Manchester City, PSG, Arsenal I mean what more could anyone ever want from this stage. All four games were amazing and it brought so much joy to everyone. Considering most games were a tie, I would say Barcelona vs PSG was the most entertaining one for me. I would never imagine Barcelona to have this win. Once again, it is proven that Xavi should stay, being second in the league is not bad at all, they won last year, second this year, maybe they can win next year? Plus they might go to semi finals of UCL, in any season Barcelona finishes like that, I would call that a success.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 11, 2024, 01:28:15 AM
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What I didn't expect was Arsenal being held to a draw by Bayern.
I wasn't that surprised. One thing I've realized is that Bayern probably gave up their challenge for the title and shifted their focus on the Champions League. They are only doing enough in Bundesliga to keep their second position but they are full force on CL.

Bayer impressed me, the fate of both teams will be determined in the second leg which will be held next week.

It would be great to win at home but a draw is not bad. Now Arsenal are going to Munich to finish the job.
And Arsenal's mission to qualify for the next round is possible, even if they play away.
But Arteta must find another formula that will exclude Martineli from starting games. He's no longer performing at the elite level and has not been doing enough for the team lately.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: MRY on April 11, 2024, 04:46:34 AM
Barcelona, Bayern, Real Madrid, Manchester City, PSG, Arsenal I mean what more could anyone ever want from this stage. All four games were amazing and it brought so much joy to everyone. Considering most games were a tie, I would say Barcelona vs PSG was the most entertaining one for me. I would never imagine Barcelona to have this win. Once again, it is proven that Xavi should stay, being second in the league is not bad at all, they won last year, second this year, maybe they can win next year? Plus they might go to semi finals of UCL, in any season Barcelona finishes like that, I would call that a success.
Barcelona managed to get a win against PSG because PSG had problems internally which ultimately made them lose the figure of Kylian Mbappé who often gave PSG wins. This was a very bad result for PSG because it was unusual for PSG to be defeated by Barcelona. Hopefully Luis Enrique can evaluate this problem and immediately find a replacement player who has almost the same strength as Mbappe.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 11, 2024, 09:30:54 AM
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Barcelona managed to get a win against PSG because PSG had problems internally which ultimately made them lose the figure of Kylian Mbappé who often gave PSG wins. This was a very bad result for PSG because it was unusual for PSG to be defeated by Barcelona. Hopefully Luis Enrique can evaluate this problem and immediately find a replacement player who has almost the same strength as Mbappe.
Lose Kylian Mbappé? What are you talking about? If you didn't watch the match, you should at least check the stats/results. For your info, Kylian Mbappé is still part of the team and was actually in the line up that lost against Barcelona in the first leg.

It's also not unusual for Barca to beat PSG. Their head-to-head record before the game is 4 wins for Barca and 4 for PSG (draw 4). Now, Barca has 1 win over PSG.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 11, 2024, 11:08:28 AM
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Barcelona managed to get a win against PSG because PSG had problems internally which ultimately made them lose the figure of Kylian Mbappé who often gave PSG wins. This was a very bad result for PSG because it was unusual for PSG to be defeated by Barcelona. Hopefully Luis Enrique can evaluate this problem and immediately find a replacement player who has almost the same strength as Mbappe.
Lose Kylian Mbappé? What are you talking about? If you didn't watch the match, you should at least check the stats/results. For your info, Kylian Mbappé is still part of the team and was actually in the line up that lost against Barcelona in the first leg.

It's also not unusual for Barca to beat PSG. Their head-to-head record before the game is 4 wins for Barca and 4 for PSG (draw 4). Now, Barca has 1 win over PSG.

Yep, you are right. Kylian Mbappé is still part of the team but throughout the match, Mbappe was locked by Jules Kounde.
He was unable to move freely and even recorded bad statistics.
Barcelona was sensational and PSG fans were disappointed
This win is an important asset for Barcelona to qualify for the next round.
And now, all eyes of PSG supporters are on the second leg match scheduled for April 17, 2024, and they hope PSG can turn things around.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 11, 2024, 11:51:58 AM
Yep, you are right. Kylian Mbappé is still part of the team but throughout the match, Mbappe was locked by Jules Kounde.
He was unable to move freely and even recorded bad statistics.
Barcelona was sensational and PSG fans were disappointed
This win is an important asset for Barcelona to qualify for the next round.
And now, all eyes of PSG supporters are on the second leg match scheduled for April 17, 2024, and they hope PSG can turn things around.
Maybe PSG's journey in the UCL will feel even harder with this defeat in the first leg. Because we can imagine if they fail when playing at home then of course it will be even more difficult for them if they play away at Barcelona's headquarters. But 2-3 on aggregate is not so bad if they can turn things around in the second leg. but we have seen how Xavi's team made a good game in the first leg. So Barcelona in the second leg will certainly be more difficult to face because they are also the hosts of the second leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Litzki1990 on April 11, 2024, 02:48:24 PM
For top teams have adapt well with busy schedule match and their manager make rotation before on domestic league match, but Real Madrid get advantage and must win for the first leg match if want make more easy with second leg if can win above two or three goals.
Real Madrid just like Arsenal will have to make good use of the home advantage in the first leg before going for the second leg which will not be easier. The games are just a few days left, and the coaches have been getting ready for this game by ensuring not to over play the key players they have to prevent injuries and fatigue.

Manchester City still have Kyle Walker who is important injured, Nathan Ake also. Real Madrid have most key players fit for the game. Bayern have injury concerns, Sane and Manuel Neuer are the latest injury problems for Tuchel, their absence can affect the teams play.
There is not much time left for the quarter finals of the Champions League and by this time every team has started preparing their squads and working on their weaknesses and the weaknesses of their opponents. While every team is busy preparing their squads, Manchester City and Real Madrid are probably the most tense as these two teams are the strongest teams in the Champions League and these two teams are going to face each other in the quarter finals. The first and second legs between Real Madrid and Manchester City will be the most exciting and perhaps the most watched match between the two teams. Manchester City won the Champions League title last season, so as a Real Madrid fan, I expect Real Madrid to win the Champions League title this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 11, 2024, 03:10:46 PM
Atletico Madrid managed to win when they hosted Borussia Dortmund in this first leg, 2-1 was the final score of the match. Atletico Madrid can take advantage of their status as hosts, because with this win they only need to achieve a draw in the second leg.

However, it is not easy for them to do that, because winning by 1 goal does not make them feel very comfortable. Maybe they are more relaxed, but considering that the second leg match will be held at Borussia Dortmund headquarters, it makes them have to work even harder.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 11, 2024, 03:15:29 PM
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Barcelona managed to get a win against PSG because PSG had problems internally which ultimately made them lose the figure of Kylian Mbappé who often gave PSG wins. This was a very bad result for PSG because it was unusual for PSG to be defeated by Barcelona. Hopefully Luis Enrique can evaluate this problem and immediately find a replacement player who has almost the same strength as Mbappe.
Lose Kylian Mbappé? What are you talking about? If you didn't watch the match, you should at least check the stats/results. For your info, Kylian Mbappé is still part of the team and was actually in the line up that lost against Barcelona in the first leg...
Yep, you are right. Kylian Mbappé is still part of the team but throughout the match, Mbappe was locked by Jules Kounde.
He was unable to move freely and even recorded bad statistics.
Well, regardless if he was non-existent during the match because he was well defended, it is still inaccurate to say he is no longer part of the PSG team.

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And now, all eyes of PSG supporters are on the second leg match scheduled for April 17, 2024, and they hope PSG can turn things around.
Goodluck with that. Odds for PSG is currently @3.10 for winning the second leg while Barca is @2.10 Those are already good numbers for the home team but I'm pondering on a draw (@3.70)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunderland on April 11, 2024, 04:24:45 PM
Atletico Madrid managed to win when they hosted Borussia Dortmund in this first leg, 2-1 was the final score of the match. Atletico Madrid can take advantage of their status as hosts, because with this win they only need to achieve a draw in the second leg.

However, it is not easy for them to do that, because winning by 1 goal does not make them feel very comfortable. Maybe they are more relaxed, but considering that the second leg match will be held at Borussia Dortmund headquarters, it makes them have to work even harder.

Atletico is not that strong when away, in the Champions League (this season) they have won once, draw 2 times and lost once.
And from 15 away games in Laliga, they have won 5 times, draw 3 times and lost 7 times.
The Germany clubs are usually very strong and difficult to beat when playing at home,
I guess Dortmund will win with 1-0 or 2-1 and goes to a penalty shootout to determine who will advance to the semifinals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: DaNNy001 on April 11, 2024, 05:20:52 PM
Barcelona, Bayern, Real Madrid, Manchester City, PSG, Arsenal I mean what more could anyone ever want from this stage. All four games were amazing and it brought so much joy to everyone. Considering most games were a tie, I would say Barcelona vs PSG was the most entertaining one for me. I would never imagine Barcelona to have this win. Once again, it is proven that Xavi should stay, being second in the league is not bad at all, they won last year, second this year, maybe they can win next year? Plus they might go to semi finals of UCL, in any season Barcelona finishes like that, I would call that a success.
Barcelona managed to get a win against PSG because PSG had problems internally which ultimately made them lose the figure of Kylian Mbappé who often gave PSG wins. This was a very bad result for PSG because it was unusual for PSG to be defeated by Barcelona. Hopefully Luis Enrique can evaluate this problem and immediately find a replacement player who has almost the same strength as Mbappe.
Well I don't know about the context of that statement saying it's unusual seeing Barcelona beat PSG, well I would like to refresh your memory that the both teams are currently not in their strongest position although Barcelona looks alot better and even in the game yesterday Barcelona played more with all the possession and holding the ball more so I think the win they had at Paris was indeed a worthy one and I think uts going to very hard for PSG to win at the nou camp in Spain.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sunderland on April 11, 2024, 07:00:20 PM
Barcelona managed to get a win against PSG because PSG had problems internally which ultimately made them lose the figure of Kylian Mbappé who often gave PSG wins. This was a very bad result for PSG because it was unusual for PSG to be defeated by Barcelona. Hopefully Luis Enrique can evaluate this problem and immediately find a replacement player who has almost the same strength as Mbappe.
Well I don't know about the context of that statement saying it's unusual seeing Barcelona beat PSG, well I would like to refresh your memory that the both teams are currently not in their strongest position although Barcelona looks alot better and even in the game yesterday Barcelona played more with all the possession and holding the ball more so I think the win they had at Paris was indeed a worthy one and I think uts going to very hard for PSG to win at the nou camp in Spain.

Yes, Barcelona and PSG have met 13 times, including yesterday match.
And from those meetings, Barca won 5 times, Draw 4 times and PSG won 4 times.
So the two clubs had actually beaten each other 4 times before yesterday match, and Mbappe will still be there and play for PSG until the end of the season/June.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on April 11, 2024, 09:25:59 PM
Now, Currently competing are:
PSG vs Barcelona
  2              3

and Atlético Madrid vs Dortmund
               2                   1


Is it possible for La Liga clubs to get away with it all this time?
It is quite interesting to see that the two Spanish teams won their matches today. The one that surprised me was Barcelona winning PSG. I never expected PSG to allow this happen as k was thinking that it would be a draw game. Barcelona now have a upper hand of qualifying to the semifinals, as the return leg would be in Spain. Raphina is a good player and he showed his qualities in today's match.
Yes, it was quite unexpected that both of them won. Moreover, Barcelona was able to beat PSG. That seems quite extraordinary. In the end, Barcelona was able to win with a 2 - 3 win over PSG, even when playing at the PSG stadium. and also Atletico Madrid were also able to beat Dortmund at their own home with a score of 2 - 1.

Yes. at least both have a higher aggregate. However, even so, the aggregate is still at risk of being taken over in the second leg, because the difference is only 1 goal. So, both Xavi and Simeone must be wary of their future matches in the second leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 11, 2024, 09:45:30 PM
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Maybe PSG's journey in the UCL will feel even harder with this defeat in the first leg. Because we can imagine if they fail when playing at home then of course it will be even more difficult for them if they play away at Barcelona's headquarters. But 2-3 on aggregate is not so bad if they can turn things around in the second leg. but we have seen how Xavi's team made a good game in the first leg. So Barcelona in the second leg will certainly be more difficult to face because they are also the hosts of the second leg.

There's still hope, Enrique has one shot to get it right. It's more than possible
It's time to learn from mistakes make a few adjustments in 2nd leg, have proper formation, go all out, and the Barca team can be beaten at home.
But It will be over if PSG makes the same mistakes as in the first leg.
Barcelona is in Good Form They out-classed PSG in everything yesterday.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on April 11, 2024, 11:43:15 PM
Barcelona managed to get a win against PSG because PSG had problems internally which ultimately made them lose the figure of Kylian Mbappé who often gave PSG wins. This was a very bad result for PSG because it was unusual for PSG to be defeated by Barcelona. Hopefully Luis Enrique can evaluate this problem and immediately find a replacement player who has almost the same strength as Mbappe.
I don't know if it is because of the internal problem in PSG. I think it can be internal problem or other things. Only the coach who knows it very well. But in my point of view, I see the Barcelona players looked more experienced in UCL match. They can have a better mentality during the match. Although PSG could lead first, Barcelona continued playing with their confidence. Finally, they could win the match with 3 goals. But it is not over yet, there is still Leg 2 in Barcelona home. Barcelona players must be careful, PSG still has the chance to eliminate them.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Litzki1990 on April 12, 2024, 04:42:20 AM
Barcelona, Bayern, Real Madrid, Manchester City, PSG, Arsenal I mean what more could anyone ever want from this stage. All four games were amazing and it brought so much joy to everyone. Considering most games were a tie, I would say Barcelona vs PSG was the most entertaining one for me. I would never imagine Barcelona to have this win. Once again, it is proven that Xavi should stay, being second in the league is not bad at all, they won last year, second this year, maybe they can win next year? Plus they might go to semi finals of UCL, in any season Barcelona finishes like that, I would call that a success.
Barcelona managed to get a win against PSG because PSG had problems internally which ultimately made them lose the figure of Kylian Mbappé who often gave PSG wins. This was a very bad result for PSG because it was unusual for PSG to be defeated by Barcelona. Hopefully Luis Enrique can evaluate this problem and immediately find a replacement player who has almost the same strength as Mbappe.
Barcelona got the win against PSG but the good news for PSG is that they didn't lose by a big margin against Barcelona. If psg can do well in the second leg match and if Mbappe can play at his best then reducing this one goal gap is not a very difficult task. PSG lost the first leg and it's all over but it's not like that, PSG still have time and PSG still have chances but they should use those chances properly. The second leg must be treated as a Champions League final for those who have never lost a second leg but must plan to beat Barcelona by a minimum margin of two goals. Since Luis Enrique is at PSG we can expect a second leg match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 12, 2024, 12:29:38 PM
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Maybe PSG's journey in the UCL will feel even harder with this defeat in the first leg. Because we can imagine if they fail when playing at home then of course it will be even more difficult for them if they play away at Barcelona's headquarters. But 2-3 on aggregate is not so bad if they can turn things around in the second leg. but we have seen how Xavi's team made a good game in the first leg. So Barcelona in the second leg will certainly be more difficult to face because they are also the hosts of the second leg.

There's still hope, Enrique has one shot to get it right. It's more than possible
It's time to learn from mistakes make a few adjustments in 2nd leg, have proper formation, go all out, and the Barca team can be beaten at home.
But It will be over if PSG makes the same mistakes as in the first leg.
Barcelona is in Good Form They out-classed PSG in everything yesterday.
Maybe you're right. Well, the opportunity is still wide open even for PSG. I started to have more open thoughts after seeing Liverpool lose at home to visiting team Atalanta in the Europa League. So PSG might surprise us by beating Barcelona at the Olimpiade Lluís Companys Stadium.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 12, 2024, 02:05:29 PM
Atletico Madrid managed to win when they hosted Borussia Dortmund in this first leg, 2-1 was the final score of the match. Atletico Madrid can take advantage of their status as hosts, because with this win they only need to achieve a draw in the second leg.

However, it is not easy for them to do that, because winning by 1 goal does not make them feel very comfortable. Maybe they are more relaxed, but considering that the second leg match will be held at Borussia Dortmund headquarters, it makes them have to work even harder.

Atletico is not that strong when away, in the Champions League (this season) they have won once, draw 2 times and lost once.
And from 15 away games in Laliga, they have won 5 times, draw 3 times and lost 7 times.
The Germany clubs are usually very strong and difficult to beat when playing at home,
I guess Dortmund will win with 1-0 or 2-1 and goes to a penalty shootout to determine who will advance to the semifinals.
With their record not being very good when playing away matches, it will be a challenge for Atletico Madrid in the second leg match, they must prepare themselves as best as possible in this match.

Borussia Dortmund will also not simply provide a comfortable game for Atletico Madrid. It is very possible for them to catch an aggregate of 1 goal, especially as they will get full support from the supporters in their stadium.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 13, 2024, 02:36:31 PM
With their record not being very good when playing away matches, it will be a challenge for Atletico Madrid in the second leg match, they must prepare themselves as best as possible in this match.
If Atletico Madrid had been able to finish that game with their two goal lead they would have been traveling to Germany a little more confident than they are right now knowing that before the German club Dortmund will be able to  score two goals they would have been able to add some more goals, or adjust their game tactics. Atletico Madrid will be dominated in Germany and will most likely loose that game to Dortmund who will mount the tension from the beginning.

Atletico Madrid were lucky to have won the first leg still, Dortmund would have gotten a draw.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Google+ on April 13, 2024, 05:46:36 PM
With their record not being very good when playing away matches, it will be a challenge for Atletico Madrid in the second leg match, they must prepare themselves as best as possible in this match.
If Atletico Madrid had been able to finish that game with their two goal lead they would have been traveling to Germany a little more confident than they are right now knowing that before the German club Dortmund will be able to  score two goals they would have been able to add some more goals, or adjust their game tactics. Atletico Madrid will be dominated in Germany and will most likely loose that game to Dortmund who will mount the tension from the beginning.

Atletico Madrid were lucky to have won the first leg still, Dortmund would have gotten a draw.
Luckily Atletico Madrid managed to get a win against Girona, winning 3-1 making Atletico Madrid unbeatable in this match. With Atletico Madrid's victory, they managed to get into the top four of the standings and only have a difference of 4 points or at least need two more wins. Atletico will overtake Girona.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on April 13, 2024, 10:02:06 PM
Barcelona got the win against PSG but the good news for PSG is that they didn't lose by a big margin against Barcelona. If psg can do well in the second leg match and if Mbappe can play at his best then reducing this one goal gap is not a very difficult task. PSG lost the first leg and it's all over but it's not like that, PSG still have time and PSG still have chances but they should use those chances properly.
It was not good for PSG although they lost with 1 goal difference only. You must know the Leg 2 will be held in Barcelona home, it should be harder than Leg 1. Barcelona has the advantage for the next match, they must know better their home stadium and will be supported by more fans. Personally, I doubt if PSG can destroy Barcelona in Leg 2, they have missed the opportunity to win at their home. Next match is for Barcelona, they won't miss the chance to go to the next round.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: CryptoLaila on April 13, 2024, 10:38:29 PM

It was not good for PSG although they lost with 1 goal difference only. You must know the Leg 2 will be held in Barcelona home, it should be harder than Leg 1. Barcelona has the advantage for the next match, they must know better their home stadium and will be supported by more fans. Personally, I doubt if PSG can destroy Barcelona in Leg 2, they have missed the opportunity to win at their home. Next match is for Barcelona, they won't miss the chance to go to the next round.
If Barcelona could got the win in psg home , then I don't  see them not winning  in their  home too but there's  something  about  PSG they are always after their second  leg which will always be more furious  than expected. They are always after attacking and this is done with full effect, Ince their goals are secured, they always changed their gaming  style to defensive  . That's  why it always easy to beat them if the opponent  counter attack  them in the early  time othe match .
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 14, 2024, 01:54:18 PM
With their record not being very good when playing away matches, it will be a challenge for Atletico Madrid in the second leg match, they must prepare themselves as best as possible in this match.
If Atletico Madrid had been able to finish that game with their two goal lead they would have been traveling to Germany a little more confident than they are right now knowing that before the German club Dortmund will be able to  score two goals they would have been able to add some more goals, or adjust their game tactics. Atletico Madrid will be dominated in Germany and will most likely loose that game to Dortmund who will mount the tension from the beginning.

Atletico Madrid were lucky to have won the first leg still, Dortmund would have gotten a draw.
It won't be easy for Atletico Madrid to increase the number of goals in the second leg, because Borussia Dormund will certainly not allow their opponents to easily win at their own headquarters.

Borussia Dortmund is only 1 goal behind in the first leg, and that 1 goal is a very likely distance for Borussia Doertmund to catch up in the second leg. Atletico Madrid must be able to prepare themselves as best as possible, at least they must achieve a draw to enable them to qualify.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 14, 2024, 09:38:37 PM

It was not good for PSG although they lost with 1 goal difference only. You must know the Leg 2 will be held in Barcelona home, it should be harder than Leg 1. Barcelona has the advantage for the next match, they must know better their home stadium and will be supported by more fans. Personally, I doubt if PSG can destroy Barcelona in Leg 2, they have missed the opportunity to win at their home. Next match is for Barcelona, they won't miss the chance to go to the next round.
If Barcelona could got the win in psg home , then I don't  see them not winning  in their  home too but there's  something  about  PSG they are always after their second  leg which will always be more furious  than expected. They are always after attacking and this is done with full effect, Ince their goals are secured, they always changed their gaming  style to defensive  . That's  why it always easy to beat them if the opponent  counter attack  them in the early  time othe match
Barcelona winning PSG at home is a sure bet, because they were able to win PSG in France, what will PSG play in Spain that will make them win with 2 goals. Barcelona attackers are sharp and there is no way that we would not see a goal from Barcelona. I must say the fact that Barcelona will win them home and away this season. I cannot wait to watch the matches, because this second leg will be tougher than the first leg, since whoever loses based on goal aggregate will go home
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on April 14, 2024, 09:51:15 PM
Barcelona winning PSG at home is a sure bet, because they were able to win PSG in France, what will PSG play in Spain that will make them win with 2 goals. Barcelona attackers are sharp and there is no way that we would not see a goal from Barcelona. I must say the fact that Barcelona will win them home and away this season. I cannot wait to watch the matches, because this second leg will be tougher than the first leg, since whoever loses based on goal aggregate will go home
Barcelona has good capital for second leg match against PSG, the victory on away match and second leg will play on home get more benefit for Barcelona secure the semifinal place in Champion League for this season. PSG always has good moment success come back against Barcelona but this time the second leg match play at Barcelona's home will make difficult for away team.
Barcelona vs PSG match will play early in this middle week, so excited to know which one teams will qualify to semifinal will Barcelona or PSG make come back?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 15, 2024, 11:35:33 PM
Updated odds for the outright Champions' League winner:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/16/J6A61.png)

Man City, the current champion, being the favourite here does not surprise me, but the disproportions between their odds and the odds for other teams seem a bit strange to me. I don't think Man City is that much better than Arsenal or Real Madrid. I'd expect pay-out rates to be much closer to each other.
Placing bet on Real could be a good opportunity. If they somehow manage to get passed the City, it should be smooth sailing from there.
Any thoughts?

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/15/jIYRJ.png)
Updated odds for the UCL winner.
There have been some changes since the last time, but Man City is still the favourite, with odds reduced to x2.60.
Betting on Borussia can now earn you x34.0
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on April 16, 2024, 12:07:45 AM
Barcelona got the win against PSG but the good news for PSG is that they didn't lose by a big margin against Barcelona. If psg can do well in the second leg match and if Mbappe can play at his best then reducing this one goal gap is not a very difficult task. PSG lost the first leg and it's all over but it's not like that, PSG still have time and PSG still have chances but they should use those chances properly.
It's a goal defeat margin to PSG but how sure are we that PSG will be able to score more than a goal in Barcelona's home, when Barcelona will be defending with their might that maintaining a goal lead to PSG will keep them ahead and also qualify them to next round of the Champions League match.

PSG gats to strategies and has good tactics in this second leg if they consider winning against Barcelona at their home
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on April 16, 2024, 12:26:05 AM
Barcelona got the win against PSG but the good news for PSG is that they didn't lose by a big margin against Barcelona. If psg can do well in the second leg match and if Mbappe can play at his best then reducing this one goal gap is not a very difficult task. PSG lost the first leg and it's all over but it's not like that, PSG still have time and PSG still have chances but they should use those chances properly.
It's a goal defeat margin to PSG but how sure are we that PSG will be able to score more than a goal in Barcelona's home, when Barcelona will be defending with their might that maintaining a goal lead to PSG will keep them ahead and also qualify them to next round of the Champions League match.

PSG gats to strategies and has good tactics in this second leg if they consider winning against Barcelona at their home
Barcelona is leading in their UEFA Champions League quarter tie with a goal after winning their first leg with 3:2 scoreline but many people are of the opinion that Barcelona will find it very difficult to win the tie when they host Paris Saint Germaine on Tuesday night.
In my own opinion, I think Barcelona will go through even when I know Paris Saint Germaine will give them a tough time. The only factor that can make Paris Saint Germaine win the tie is if Barcelona failed to stop their talisman Kylian Mbappe from performing just like the way he was stopped in the first leg of the tie. Defeating Barcelona at Camp Nou is one of the most difficult task for any club in Europe and I don't think PSG will be able to do that on Tuesday night
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on April 16, 2024, 04:46:20 AM
Barcelona is leading in their UEFA Champions League quarter tie with a goal after winning their first leg with 3:2 scoreline but many people are of the opinion that Barcelona will find it very difficult to win the tie when they host Paris Saint Germaine on Tuesday night.
In my own opinion, I think Barcelona will go through even when I know Paris Saint Germaine will give them a tough time. The only factor that can make Paris Saint Germaine win the tie is if Barcelona failed to stop their talisman Kylian Mbappe from performing just like the way he was stopped in the first leg of the tie. Defeating Barcelona at Camp Nou is one of the most difficult task for any club in Europe and I don't think PSG will be able to do that on Tuesday night
Barcelona has advantage after the winning games on the first leg match over 3-2, tonight will face PSG on second leg match and playing on their home make more advantage to secure one place in semifinal round. Although loss on the first leg match but PSG get advantage more taking rest than Barcelona, PSG not plays in domestic league match in this week and they have almost seven days for recovery their physical after the first leg match.
Barcelona has few days left after facing Cadiz and want to defend their winning result for tonight match, difficult for predictable who will qualify to semifinal round between Barcelona or PSG?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 16, 2024, 08:44:16 AM
Barcelona is leading in their UEFA Champions League quarter tie with a goal after winning their first leg with 3:2 scoreline but many people are of the opinion that Barcelona will find it very difficult to win the tie when they host Paris Saint Germaine on Tuesday night.
In my own opinion, I think Barcelona will go through even when I know Paris Saint Germaine will give them a tough time. The only factor that can make Paris Saint Germaine win the tie is if Barcelona failed to stop their talisman Kylian Mbappe from performing just like the way he was stopped in the first leg of the tie. Defeating Barcelona at Camp Nou is one of the most difficult task for any club in Europe and I don't think PSG will be able to do that on Tuesday night
Barcelona has advantage after the winning games on the first leg match over 3-2, tonight will face PSG on second leg match and playing on their home make more advantage to secure one place in semifinal round. Although loss on the first leg match but PSG get advantage more taking rest than Barcelona, PSG not plays in domestic league match in this week and they have almost seven days for recovery their physical after the first leg match.
Barcelona has few days left after facing Cadiz and want to defend their winning result for tonight match, difficult for predictable who will qualify to semifinal round between Barcelona or PSG?

All eyes are on the return leg. For PSG, winning with a difference of two goals is a must and Mbappe is the hope.

Luis Enrique is very familiar with Barcelona and the atmosphere of the Estadi Olimpic Lluis Companys, this might be an advantage for PSG.
However, I will refrain from predicting the outcome of the game. My only desire is to enjoy the match and see the players give it their all, I want to see soldier on for 90 minutes.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 16, 2024, 09:09:57 AM
Barcelona has advantage after the winning games on the first leg match over 3-2, tonight will face PSG on second leg match and playing on their home make more advantage to secure one place in semifinal round. Although loss on the first leg match but PSG get advantage more taking rest than Barcelona, PSG not plays in domestic league match in this week and they have almost seven days for recovery their physical after the first leg match.
Barcelona has few days left after facing Cadiz and want to defend their winning result for tonight match, difficult for predictable who will qualify to semifinal round between Barcelona or PSG?
Currently Xavi Hernandez has strong motivation to give his best for Barcelona. Because this is his last season at Barcelona. because he will leave after this season is over. And Xavi seems eager to give his best for Barcelona in the UCL. Because in Laliga it seems that Barcelona is already behind Real Madrid by a fairly large difference, namely 8 points. Although the opportunity to overtake Real Madrid still exists with the remaining matches this season. But expecting Real Madrid to drop points in the remainder of the season in Laliga is very difficult. So Xavi will definitely be more enthusiastic about chasing the UCL title. Although very few people like them. But we'll see if Barcelona can be the same surprise as Inter Milan last season, who managed to get to the final without any of us expecting it at all.

PSG might have more difficulty at Barcelona headquarters. But their opportunities are still quite open with only 1 goal behind. Because now it is no longer strange to see the home team losing. but I will favorite Barcelona of course. Because the biggest possibility is that victory will still be on the home side.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 16, 2024, 12:33:54 PM
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The only factor that can make Paris Saint Germaine win the tie is if Barcelona failed to stop their talisman Kylian Mbappe from performing just like the way he was stopped in the first leg of the tie.
Yeah, containing him or limiting his opportunities will be the key for Barca. I'm looking forward to the battle of wits between the managers on how they will make use of their key players. I can also see the game to be decided by a penalty shootout.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 16, 2024, 10:03:42 PM
Borussia Dortmund is only 1 goal behind in the first leg, and that 1 goal is a very likely distance for Borussia Doertmund to catch up in the second leg. Atletico Madrid must be able to prepare themselves as best as possible, at least they must achieve a draw to enable them to qualify.
Dominant first half from Dortmund, made good use of the goal opportunity that they have created, and now they ended the first half with two goals, to now be the winning team on total goals (3-2). The game can still change, If Atletico can get one goal early enough before Dortmund score the third goal to put them at a more comfortable position.

Atletico struggled in the first half, it is going to be difficult to shake off the pressure from the Dortmund players, and play under the atmosphere filled with chants from the Home club (Dortmund).

Dortmund have to make sure not to make any crazy mistakes, their tactics should be more of the first half performnace.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 16, 2024, 10:24:52 PM
The aggregate of the two matches is now the same. Namely Dortmund and Atletico have an aggregate of 3-3. And likewise, Barcelona and PSG have an aggregate of 4-4. It's just that Barcelona is in a difficult position because they only play with 10 players. And just now Mbappe scored a goal through a penalty and made PSG now ahead with an aggregate of 4-5.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 16, 2024, 11:49:54 PM
The aggregate of the two matches is now the same. Namely Dortmund and Atletico have an aggregate of 3-3. And likewise, Barcelona and PSG have an aggregate of 4-4. It's just that Barcelona is in a difficult position because they only play with 10 players. And just now Mbappe scored a goal through a penalty and made PSG now ahead with an aggregate of 4-5.
Mbappe scored two scores the which made it 4-6 aggregate. He scored the penalty and the last goal from a close range inside the box of Barcelona. I will put the blame of Araujo who was the last man standing and decided to make the foul. No one expected that PSG will come from behind and win the game away from home. Congratulations to PSG for qualifying for the semifinals. Dortmund was played impressively and won Atletico.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on April 17, 2024, 12:10:07 AM
Dortmund have to make sure not to make any crazy mistakes, their tactics should be more of the first half performnace.
Dortmund really had their game plan mapped out for them from the first half of the match to its second half, in which they were able to two goals in the first and two goals also in the second half.

Dortmund just made Atletico Madrid to be less performed in this second leg. Atleast this their 4-2 win against Atletico is their first time reaching the semi finals in 11 years. They will now begin to think of facing PSG next since PSG won Barcelona by 4-1(6-4 aggregate)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 17, 2024, 06:53:21 AM
Mbappe scored two scores the which made it 4-6 aggregate. He scored the penalty and the last goal from a close range inside the box of Barcelona. I will put the blame of Araujo who was the last man standing and decided to make the foul. No one expected that PSG will come from behind and win the game away from home. Congratulations to PSG for qualifying for the semifinals. Dortmund was played impressively and won Atletico.

I love this game... It was an impressive comeback from PSG but a Painful night for Barca and complaining about the referee handling their game against PSG is a lame excuse.
Dembele coming back to Barcelona to knock them out of the Champions League. Mbappè and Dembele is the star
Could this be the season PSG has been waiting for?
Congrats PSG...Enjoy your semifinal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 17, 2024, 06:54:02 AM
From the voting results, it seems nobody in here is a fan of Barcelona. Well, that's good I guess because no one will be venting out their frustration (unless you placed a bet on them) ;D PSG took full advantage of Araújo's red card and who could fault them? Now that they disposed Barcelona, I think their road to the Finals is 80% assured but that's just my prediction.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 17, 2024, 08:58:44 AM
The aggregate of the two matches is now the same. Namely Dortmund and Atletico have an aggregate of 3-3. And likewise, Barcelona and PSG have an aggregate of 4-4. It's just that Barcelona is in a difficult position because they only play with 10 players. And just now Mbappe scored a goal through a penalty and made PSG now ahead with an aggregate of 4-5.
Mbappe scored two scores the which made it 4-6 aggregate. He scored the penalty and the last goal from a close range inside the box of Barcelona. I will put the blame of Araujo who was the last man standing and decided to make the foul. No one expected that PSG will come from behind and win the game away from home. Congratulations to PSG for qualifying for the semifinals. Dortmund was played impressively and won Atletico.
Well I didn't expect Barcelona to lose. Maybe if Barcelona continues to play with 11 players then Barcelona can maintain their lead. But unfortunately they only played with 10 players from the 29th minute. And that was a nightmare for this club.

Laliga's only hope now is Real Madrid. And Real Madrid has the most feared opponent, namely Man City. In fact, I doubt that Real Madrid can succeed in beating Man City. But if PSG can make a surprise, then Real Madrid also has the same opportunity. Moreover, Real Madrid is still evenly matched on aggregate with Man City. So the opportunities are still wide open.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 17, 2024, 04:17:56 PM
The aggregate of the two matches is now the same. Namely Dortmund and Atletico have an aggregate of 3-3. And likewise, Barcelona and PSG have an aggregate of 4-4. It's just that Barcelona is in a difficult position because they only play with 10 players. And just now Mbappe scored a goal through a penalty and made PSG now ahead with an aggregate of 4-5.
Mbappe scored two scores the which made it 4-6 aggregate. He scored the penalty and the last goal from a close range inside the box of Barcelona. I will put the blame of Araujo who was the last man standing and decided to make the foul. No one expected that PSG will come from behind and win the game away from home. Congratulations to PSG for qualifying for the semifinals. Dortmund was played impressively and won Atletico.
Well I didn't expect Barcelona to lose. Maybe if Barcelona continues to play with 11 players then Barcelona can maintain their lead. But unfortunately they only played with 10 players from the 29th minute. And that was a nightmare for this club.

Laliga's only hope now is Real Madrid. And Real Madrid has the most feared opponent, namely Man City. In fact, I doubt that Real Madrid can succeed in beating Man City. But if PSG can make a surprise, then Real Madrid also has the same opportunity. Moreover, Real Madrid is still evenly matched on aggregate with Man City. So the opportunities are still wide open.
I think that it was lack of experience on Barcelona young players that caused them not to be able to fight strong even with 10 men. The young boys were filled with fear and tension, and that made the situation worst to the extent that they were unable to put themselves together. Enriquez saw that in the first half, and that was why when his team came back in the second half, they attacked Barcelona aggressively and shattered their defense,which lead to PSG scoring 4 goals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 17, 2024, 05:48:16 PM
Paris Saint Germain managed to secure a ticket to the semifinals after winning a landslide and turning things around in the second leg. The red card received by Araujo really affected the course of the match for Barcelona

At first they controlled the game and were even able to score an early goal in the 12th minute. However, after they played with 10 men, Paris Saint Germain was able to take advantage and turn the situation around. Ultimately, they were able to equalize before the first half ended. In the second half they successfully took advantage of their superior number of players so they were able to win 4-1 and reverse the aggregate to 6-4.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on April 17, 2024, 05:56:48 PM
I think that it was lack of experience on Barcelona young players that caused them not to be able to fight strong even with 10 men. The young boys were filled with fear and tension, and that made the situation worst to the extent that they were unable to put themselves together. Enriquez saw that in the first half, and that was why when his team came back in the second half, they attacked Barcelona aggressively and shattered their defense,which lead to PSG scoring 4 goals.

Was this not the same players that were used in the first leg when Barcelona visited PSG and they won by 1 goal margin and even in the second leg, they made PSG conceded the first goal but the game change and favoured PSG after Barcelona got a red card which was a very bad omen for Barcelona. Not just that, even the Referee didn't help th situation, he was harsh to Barcelona in that game that's why they didn't win this second leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 17, 2024, 09:53:00 PM
Not just that, even the Referee didn't help th situation, he was harsh to Barcelona in that game that's why they didn't win this second leg.
Barcelona did not win because they could not win the game, no need blaming the referee when his decision could have gone any way.

In the other games for today, Real Madrid lead Manchester City at the Etihad into half time and Arsenal still hold Bayern to a goalless draw in Germany. I am watching the Arsenal game because I am a gunner by club, we have tried containing Sane in this leg with Martinelli constantly helping out Tomiyasu. Martinelli's wing is also working well this time unlike the first leg where Kimmich kept him mute.

A big second half coming, Arsenal can win this!
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on April 17, 2024, 10:44:57 PM
Ongoing matches this time.

Man City vs Real Madrid
      1                  1


The match is running very high tension, Real Madrid was leading, but Man City finally could draw the position. t's still a very exciting match.

Bayern Munich vs Arsenal
      1                      0

I think that Bayern will be leading until the end.

Update:
Bayern Munich has won the match with score 1 - 0.
Arsenal must stop the race here. Thanks to Arsenal and congratulations to Bayern Munich.

now, we are still waiting for the match between man City vs Real Madrid that is still ongoing.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 17, 2024, 11:31:43 PM
I have bad feelings about Man City. Only 5 minutes till the end of overtime. They had plenty of chances but couldn't score a winner.
If you dominate like this:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/17/jJiwN.png)
but still let the game go to a penalty shootout, that gives the other team a massive psychological advantage.
Hope I'm wrong though.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 17, 2024, 11:40:22 PM
I have bad feelings about Man City. Only 5 minutes till the end of overtime. They had plenty of chances but couldn't score a winner.
If you dominate like this:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/17/jJiwN.png)
but still let the game go to a penalty shootout, that gives the other team a massive psychological advantage.
Hope I'm wrong though.
It will be a penalty shootout as the two teams have played 120 minutes without any winner. I really wished this was the finals, but the quarter finals is like a final. However, penalty is a game of luck, and whoever wins the penalty is lucky. I really enjoyed the game from the beginning to the end as it was more lively than that of Bayern Munich and Arsenal. It is a pity that Arsenal could not fight back to remain in in the competition.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on April 17, 2024, 11:49:41 PM
This was seriously a game for the ages like they say. All the way to the penalties, and definitely looked amazing, all of 120 minutes and ever other moment looked amazing, watching this game made me realize why I liked this game for decades now, they really played like amazing. I believe they are really doing a great job. City lost, and that's a shame but whoever lost would have been a shame, not like if City won, Real would have been not a shame, I believe both teams deserved to go up and unfortunately they can't, so only one did, and today that was Real Madrid. I am so thankful for both teams for giving us such a great game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 18, 2024, 09:15:20 AM
Semi-Finals:

PSG vs. Dortmund
Real Madrid vs. Bayern Munich

Who among you expected this? I'm pretty sure many here were rooting for Arsenal and Man City to advance but it wasn't meant to be.

I think this season's Finals will be a match between PSG and Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on April 18, 2024, 11:56:24 AM
Semi-Finals:

PSG vs. Dortmund
Real Madrid vs. Bayern Munich

Who among you expected this? I'm pretty sure many here were rooting for Arsenal and Man City to advance but it wasn't meant to be.

I think this season's Finals will be a match between PSG and Real Madrid.
Its time for Real Madrid winning their 15 UEFA Champion League tittle, unpredictable with many prediction make Manchester City is favorite team but more defensive games play last night helped Madrid win over Manchester City trough penalty kick after both teams playing draw until extra additional time.
Seems your prediction is true with the final of Champion League match between PSG vs Madrid, but Dortmund had good head to head on the group phase round against PSG, will they can make another magical until leading to final round?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 18, 2024, 02:07:05 PM
Semi-Finals:

PSG vs. Dortmund
Real Madrid vs. Bayern Munich

Who among you expected this? I'm pretty sure many here were rooting for Arsenal and Man City to advance but it wasn't meant to be.

I think this season's Finals will be a match between PSG and Real Madrid.
Exactly mate, you are right and that was my conclusion yesterday the moment Real Madrid won the match with a penalty shootout. Dortmund will not be able to play PSG, and Bayern is just too weak for Real Madrid, which makes the finals to be played by these two strong clubs in their various leagues. What surprises me is that, when PSG have all three stars last season, which are Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, they did not go this far.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 18, 2024, 04:11:40 PM
What surprises me is that, when PSG have all three stars last season, which are Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, they did not go this far.
There was divided attention in the team when the club had three big players, now things are less complicated for them because they only have one key player that they can look to for performance and luckily for them they've got a perfect one for that a player, he is big and very effective in big games unlike Erling Halaand who he has often been compared with. PSG also have a good coach with champions league experience, and the honors' of winning it. This season can be their season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 18, 2024, 05:46:27 PM
What surprises me is that, when PSG have all three stars last season, which are Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, they did not go this far.
There was divided attention in the team when the club had three big players, now things are less complicated for them because they only have one key player that they can look to for performance and luckily for them they've got a perfect one for that a player, he is big and very effective in big games unlike Erling Halaand who he has often been compared with. PSG also have a good coach with champions league experience, and the honors' of winning it. This season can be their season.
Usually when a team has a lot of star players, it will actually make their teamwork unhealthy, especially if one of the players has a high ego, and I saw this at Paris Saint Germain.

How they always feel problems are closely related to their players, whether between players, coaches or even management. To be honest, I prefer teams that have an even squad without any special ones, because usually teamwork will be more pronounced.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 18, 2024, 08:27:10 PM
After seeing how Real Madrid prevented Man City from winning at the Etihad stadium, I think that is enough to measure Real Madrid's strength this season, which is much better than last season. And I think Real Madrid really has the biggest chance of being able to continue going further and reaching the Final. Even Real Madrid could become favorites this season.

But the problem is that in the semi-finals, Real Madrid had to face Bayern, who could even beat Arsenal, who also had extraordinary performance this season. Arsenal even received great appreciation this season because in the Premier League, Man City couldn't beat Arsenal. But Bayern can do it. This indicates that Bayern and Real Madrid also have almost the same level. But Real Madrid felt like they deserved to go further and reach the final. And PSG might go further too. But Dortmund also looks very strong and I can't see which is better between PSG and Dortmund.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on April 18, 2024, 10:08:56 PM
Semi-Finals:
PSG vs. Dortmund
Real Madrid vs. Bayern Munich

Who among you expected this? I'm pretty sure many here were rooting for Arsenal and Man City to advance but it wasn't meant to be.

I think this season's Finals will be a match between PSG and Real Madrid.
There are many people who expect to see Arsenal and Man City in the semi-final but they must feel unsatisfied because it is totally wrong.  ;D

Real Madrid destroyed Man City, Haaland is no longer be a sharp striker this season. However, De Bruyne made it very difficult for Real Madrid to win the match.

I also have the same prediction that we probably have Real Madrid vs PSG in the final. I hope Real Madrid can win the match and it will be a big reason for Mbappe to come to Real Madrid for the next season.

Anyway, it is surprising to see 2 teams from Bundesliga in the semi-final. I'm sure no one expects this!

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on April 18, 2024, 11:05:57 PM
Semi-Finals:

PSG vs. Dortmund
Real Madrid vs. Bayern Munich

Who among you expected this? I'm pretty sure many here were rooting for Arsenal and Man City to advance but it wasn't meant to be.

I think this season's Finals will be a match between PSG and Real Madrid.
It will be perfect if we get to see PSG and Real Madrid at the finals of the UEFA. But we never can tell what comes up later if they can advance to the next round and face each other in the finals.

PSG and Real Madrid had us all surprised as they beat Barcelona and Manchester City at their home. Who could have believed such a turnaround result for PSG and Real Madrid to beat big teams like them when they were playing at home
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 18, 2024, 11:43:23 PM
Updated odds for the outright UCL winner:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/18/j10qg.png)

No surprise here, after eliminating the current champions Real is now a new favourite with odds of x2.40
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Power420 on April 19, 2024, 12:34:30 PM
Updated odds for the outright UCL winner:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/18/j10qg.png)

No surprise here, after eliminating the current champions Real is now a new favourite with odds of x2.40

Among these four teams, two teams will surely enter the final, among which PSG and Real Madrid are the most likely to enter the final. Because from the beginning, these four teams have defeated many strong teams of this season and reached the semi-finals. Among them, Real Madrid defeated Manchester City team, while PSG defeated Barcelona team. So considering the history of these two teams, they certainly look very strong and have made it to the finals with a lot of hard work. So I placed the bet between these two teams and it was a huge amount.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on April 19, 2024, 12:58:13 PM
Updated odds for the outright UCL winner:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/18/j10qg.png)

No surprise here, after eliminating the current champions Real is now a new favourite with odds of x2.40
Comparison with domestic league and UEFA Champion League team performance since group phase until quarter final its not really surprising Real Madrid lead the first standings as favorite team for winning Champion League in this season. Actually Real Madrid always has good achieving become the winner after success beating the last champion league winner in last several season.
But its not close opportunity for another surprise about final champion league with Dortmund has chance lead to final or PSG can lead until final round in this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 19, 2024, 02:16:54 PM
Updated odds for the outright UCL winner:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/18/j10qg.png)

No surprise here, after eliminating the current champions Real is now a new favourite with odds of x2.40
Comparison with domestic league and UEFA Champion League team performance since group phase until quarter final its not really surprising Real Madrid lead the first standings as favorite team for winning Champion League in this season. Actually Real Madrid always has good achieving become the winner after success beating the last champion league winner in last several season.
But its not close opportunity for another surprise about final champion league with Dortmund has chance lead to final or PSG can lead until final round in this season.
Real Madrid is a team that has the status of a monster team in the Champions League, they are the team that has won the most titles with 14 Champions League titles, so it is not surprising that they are the team that is always the favorite in the Champions League.

This season they beat the defending champions, even though previously their chances were not greater than Manchester City, but they were able to get rid of them at their own headquarters through the penalty round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 19, 2024, 09:46:30 PM
Real Madrid is a team that has the status of a monster team in the Champions League, they are the team that has won the most titles with 14 Champions League titles, so it is not surprising that they are the team that is always the favorite in the Champions League.

This season they beat the defending champions, even though previously their chances were not greater than Manchester City, but they were able to get rid of them at their own headquarters through the penalty round.
Real Madrid have the better chance, but Bayern are not to be underrated because they have experience in this competition and have quick attackers too, with a striker that does not ghost in big games. I want PSG in the finals because I believe that they will be a better opponent for either Real Madrid or Bayern that makes it to the finals.
If PSG wins the champions league, Mbappe will be immortalized in the club.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 19, 2024, 09:52:08 PM
Updated odds for the outright UCL winner:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/18/j10qg.png)

No surprise here, after eliminating the current champions Real is now a new favourite with odds of x2.40
Prefer Real Madrid as the odds-on champions league champions this season over Bayern Munich they failed to make it to the Bundeliga and I don't expect the UCL to either.

Maybe in the final only PSG will meet Real Madrid this is what I think now about the final, but I will not bet on the champion league champion whatever the result can change.

The more challenging bets in the first and second leg between the Bayern vs Real Madrid match will be exciting.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on April 19, 2024, 10:36:48 PM
Semi-Finals:

PSG vs. Dortmund
Real Madrid vs. Bayern Munich

Who among you expected this? I'm pretty sure many here were rooting for Arsenal and Man City to advance but it wasn't meant to be.
At first I thought it would be Man City, not Real Madrid. However, when the half was over and the penalty shootout was taken, I was sure that Real Madrid would win. So far, Real Madrid have had an extraordinary experience in penalty shootouts, and there is no doubt that they have always been successful. Because of that, when the final whistle sounds and the position is level, I personally am very confident, Real Madrid will definitely win.

I think this season's Finals will be a match between PSG and Real Madrid.
It seems to  be like this. Mbappe will certainly be very happy with his achievement because he has long hoped to win the UCL. And this is PSG's step to get this far, being in the semi-finals and having a big enough chance to enter the final. This is certainly very impressive as he is, even in his career, the last season he was with PSG. and what is even more interesting is that his opponent is Real Madrid, which is his dream club and rumors always mention Mbappe moving to Real Madrid. This would be something that would be very interesting too, right?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: notblox1 on April 19, 2024, 11:21:47 PM
No surprise here, after eliminating the current champions Real is now a new favourite with odds of x2.40
I saw that odds and I think Real can do it again but I would not underestimate German teams Borussia Dortmund and Bayern.
In Champions League things are not always going according to plan and favorites dont always win, some of this teams had to think about domestic league matches also.
PSG is in best position with ten points more than Brest so they can prepare and rest some players.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 19, 2024, 11:41:45 PM
I saw that odds and I think Real can do it again but I would not underestimate German teams Borussia Dortmund and Bayern.
In Champions League things are not always going according to plan and favorites dont always win, some of this teams had to think about domestic league matches also.

Talking from a betting perspective only, I don't think betting on any other team other than Borussia is a good option. Are they likely to win the whole thing? Probably not, but x10 is still attractive enough to consider putting a small wager.
As for Real, they didn't look particularly great in the last game, but I agree that, on paper, they're the strongest of the remaining four.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 20, 2024, 10:47:38 AM
As for Real, they didn't look particularly great in the last game, but I agree that, on paper, they're the strongest of the remaining four.
They are the strongest simply because they have won the competition the most, and also because they were the team that knocked out the defending champions Manchester City. As I keep saying, I will not be surprised if they loose to Bayern because the Bayern coach has a very good record against Real Madrid with the other teams he has coached in the champions league.

The area of the Bayern team that he needs to improve on before the game is the defense.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 20, 2024, 01:55:36 PM
Real Madrid is a team that has the status of a monster team in the Champions League, they are the team that has won the most titles with 14 Champions League titles, so it is not surprising that they are the team that is always the favorite in the Champions League.

This season they beat the defending champions, even though previously their chances were not greater than Manchester City, but they were able to get rid of them at their own headquarters through the penalty round.
Real Madrid have the better chance, but Bayern are not to be underrated because they have experience in this competition and have quick attackers too, with a striker that does not ghost in big games. I want PSG in the finals because I believe that they will be a better opponent for either Real Madrid or Bayern that makes it to the finals.
If PSG wins the champions league, Mbappe will be immortalized in the club.
They agree that they cannot underestimate Bayern Munich. Even though Bayern Munich is currently experiencing a slight decline, they are still very sharp on the front line. If they underestimate Bayern Munich then they will get something they don't want.

In fact, whoever the opponent is, they cannot be underestimated, especially as we know that this is a very competitive Champions League. All the teams here will go all out to get the best results to become champions.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 21, 2024, 05:30:39 PM
After seeing how Real Madrid prevented Man City from winning at the Etihad stadium, I think that is enough to measure Real Madrid's strength this season, which is much better than last season. And I think Real Madrid really has the biggest chance of being able to continue going further and reaching the Final. Even Real Madrid could become favorites this season.

But the problem is that in the semi-finals, Real Madrid had to face Bayern, who could even beat Arsenal, who also had extraordinary performance this season. Arsenal even received great appreciation this season because in the Premier League, Man City couldn't beat Arsenal. But Bayern can do it. This indicates that Bayern and Real Madrid also have almost the same level. But Real Madrid felt like they deserved to go further and reach the final. And PSG might go further too. But Dortmund also looks very strong and I can't see which is better between PSG and Dortmund.

Facing Bayern is not an easy match for Real Madrid, Bayern is the same as Manchester City, a strong team that is very difficult to beat.
Real Madrid versus Bayern is the match that has historically been played most often in the Champions League with 26 matches
Bayern recorded 11 wins, Real Madrid 12, and the other three matches ended in draws.
And I predict the team that wins this match will win the Champions League title this season.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 21, 2024, 05:55:17 PM
Facing Bayern is not an easy match for Real Madrid, Bayern is the same as Manchester City, a strong team that is very difficult to beat.
Real Madrid versus Bayern is the match that has historically been played most often in the Champions League with 26 matches
Bayern recorded 11 wins, Real Madrid 12, and the other three matches ended in draws.
And I predict the team that wins this match will win the Champions League title this season.
H2H Bayern Munich vs Real Madrid can be said to be quite balanced because their victory is only a little difference and Real Madrid is clearly favored, but in my personal assumption where the semifinals between them prefer Real Madrid to win rather than Bayern Munich there are other reasons behind it including Bayern Munich failing in the Bundesliga although not as a reference.

Broadly speaking, it is indeed the strongest candidate where the team that has the potential to win rather than PSG or Dortmund, we never know the final result later, it's just that as a guess we believe Bayern or Madrid as one of the winners.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on April 21, 2024, 10:24:39 PM
H2H Bayern Munich vs Real Madrid can be said to be quite balanced because their victory is only a little difference and Real Madrid is clearly favored, but in my personal assumption where the semifinals between them prefer Real Madrid to win rather than Bayern Munich there are other reasons behind it including Bayern Munich failing in the Bundesliga although not as a reference.
Yes, although it cannot be denied, Bayern Munich is also one of the strongest clubs in the UCL, with their various advantages, Bayern cannot be underestimated. Its strength is not far from Man City, but overall, Man City is more equal in terms of strength in all lines, strong in all.
Here, Real Madrid needs to try optimally again, like they did with Man City and must be even better. They really understand Dortmund's ability to gain possession of the ball, as well as their significant attacks. So, surely Ancelotti has considered all this. Even better if you look at the H2H of their matches so far.

However, I am also the same as you, I still believe and support Real Madrid to qualify for the final round, meeting PSG, that will be very interesting.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 22, 2024, 12:31:06 PM
After seeing how Real Madrid prevented Man City from winning at the Etihad stadium, I think that is enough to measure Real Madrid's strength this season, which is much better than last season. And I think Real Madrid really has the biggest chance of being able to continue going further and reaching the Final. Even Real Madrid could become favorites this season.

But the problem is that in the semi-finals, Real Madrid had to face Bayern, who could even beat Arsenal, who also had extraordinary performance this season. Arsenal even received great appreciation this season because in the Premier League, Man City couldn't beat Arsenal. But Bayern can do it. This indicates that Bayern and Real Madrid also have almost the same level. But Real Madrid felt like they deserved to go further and reach the final. And PSG might go further too. But Dortmund also looks very strong and I can't see which is better between PSG and Dortmund.

Facing Bayern is not an easy match for Real Madrid, Bayern is the same as Manchester City, a strong team that is very difficult to beat.
Real Madrid versus Bayern is the match that has historically been played most often in the Champions League with 26 matches
Bayern recorded 11 wins, Real Madrid 12, and the other three matches ended in draws.
And I predict the team that wins this match will win the Champions League title this season.
I also think the same as you that the team that wins the match is likely to be the one who will ultimately win the UCL title this season. And Bayern is just as strong and at the same level. So it seems that it will be difficult to make predictions for this match. But Real Madrid in Laliga also just won in El Classico and this shows that Real Madrid is getting stronger. I can't wait to see this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on April 22, 2024, 01:21:06 PM
After seeing how Real Madrid prevented Man City from winning at the Etihad stadium, I think that is enough to measure Real Madrid's strength this season, which is much better than last season. And I think Real Madrid really has the biggest chance of being able to continue going further and reaching the Final. Even Real Madrid could become favorites this season.

But the problem is that in the semi-finals, Real Madrid had to face Bayern, who could even beat Arsenal, who also had extraordinary performance this season. Arsenal even received great appreciation this season because in the Premier League, Man City couldn't beat Arsenal. But Bayern can do it. This indicates that Bayern and Real Madrid also have almost the same level. But Real Madrid felt like they deserved to go further and reach the final. And PSG might go further too. But Dortmund also looks very strong and I can't see which is better between PSG and Dortmund.

Facing Bayern is not an easy match for Real Madrid, Bayern is the same as Manchester City, a strong team that is very difficult to beat.
Real Madrid versus Bayern is the match that has historically been played most often in the Champions League with 26 matches
Bayern recorded 11 wins, Real Madrid 12, and the other three matches ended in draws.
And I predict the team that wins this match will win the Champions League title this season.
Curretnly Real Madrid lead head to head against Bayern Munich and success defeating any Bundesliga teams in their participants in UEFA Champion League matches. In my viewed, Real Madrid has chance for defeating Bayern Munich such as make impossible prediction after success eliminating Manchester City as most favorite teams in Champion League. Regarding Manchester City opponent teams in quarter final, I think Real Madrid has easily opponent teams in semifinal than their quarter final teams.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on April 23, 2024, 12:57:13 AM
H2H Bayern Munich vs Real Madrid can be said to be quite balanced because their victory is only a little difference and Real Madrid is clearly favored, but in my personal assumption where the semifinals between them prefer Real Madrid to win rather than Bayern Munich there are other reasons behind it including Bayern Munich failing in the Bundesliga although not as a reference.
Yes, although it cannot be denied, Bayern Munich is also one of the strongest clubs in the UCL, with their various advantages, Bayern cannot be underestimated. Its strength is not far from Man City, but overall, Man City is more equal in terms of strength in all lines, strong in all.
Here, Real Madrid needs to try optimally again, like they did with Man City and must be even better. They really understand Dortmund's ability to gain possession of the ball, as well as their significant attacks. So, surely Ancelotti has considered all this. Even better if you look at the H2H of their matches so far.

However, I am also the same as you, I still believe and support Real Madrid to qualify for the final round, meeting PSG, that will be very interesting.
Bayern Munich and Real Madrid have endured great rivalry between them in the UEFA Champions League competition over the years with the Spanish club a little better than their German counterparts in terms of head to head record. They'll be meeting each other again in the semi finals of the competition and just like the bookmakers, I'm backing Real Madrid to progress to the final at the expense of Bayern Munich. Real Madrid's performance this season is clearly better when compared to Bayern Munich but that I don't think is going to be the main determinant in the tie however, I think it's definitely going to be a Real Madrid victory
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 23, 2024, 05:16:12 AM
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I also think the same as you that the team that wins the match is likely to be the one who will ultimately win the UCL title this season. And Bayern is just as strong and at the same level. So it seems that it will be difficult to make predictions for this match. But Real Madrid in Laliga also just won in El Classico and this shows that Real Madrid is getting stronger. I can't wait to see this match.

Real Madrid's league and Champions League performances have been outstanding so far.
The victory over Barca was a big step towards the La Liga title, Real Madrid has practically confirmed the league title, as well as increasing confidence when away to the Allianz Arena Stadium to play the semifinal leg 1 match.
And yeah, me too. I can't wait to see this match.
But honestly, it always excites me whenever Real Madrid plays on the pitch :)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 23, 2024, 03:35:02 PM
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I also think the same as you that the team that wins the match is likely to be the one who will ultimately win the UCL title this season. And Bayern is just as strong and at the same level. So it seems that it will be difficult to make predictions for this match. But Real Madrid in Laliga also just won in El Classico and this shows that Real Madrid is getting stronger. I can't wait to see this match.

Real Madrid's league and Champions League performances have been outstanding so far.
The victory over Barca was a big step towards the La Liga title, Real Madrid has practically confirmed the league title, as well as increasing confidence when away to the Allianz Arena Stadium to play the semifinal leg 1 match.
And yeah, me too. I can't wait to see this match.
But honestly, it always excites me whenever Real Madrid plays on the pitch :)
Well, it's the same feeling for those of us who really like Real Madrid. So seeing every match they play is always an interesting thing for us to watch. Especially if it is a match against another strong team. This always makes us more impatient to be able to see it soon.  ;D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on April 24, 2024, 10:31:45 AM
You are on the wrong thread!
This is the UEFA Champions League thread, not the Football League Championship thread. You make me sad
Really? Wow! Please don't be saddened. When I saw the thread I thought it is the football league championship. Because I was captivated by Match. Please can you drop the link.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on April 24, 2024, 12:03:32 PM
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I also think the same as you that the team that wins the match is likely to be the one who will ultimately win the UCL title this season. And Bayern is just as strong and at the same level. So it seems that it will be difficult to make predictions for this match. But Real Madrid in Laliga also just won in El Classico and this shows that Real Madrid is getting stronger. I can't wait to see this match.

Real Madrid's league and Champions League performances have been outstanding so far.
The victory over Barca was a big step towards the La Liga title, Real Madrid has practically confirmed the league title, as well as increasing confidence when away to the Allianz Arena Stadium to play the semifinal leg 1 match.
And yeah, me too. I can't wait to see this match.
But honestly, it always excites me whenever Real Madrid plays on the pitch :)
Real Madrid had capital after victory over Barcelona in el clasico match, in domestic league Real Madrid leading awhile the first position standing and few matches later has opportunity with La Liga trophy. Giving benefit for Real Madrid to improve their performance in La Liga and secure the final place to make Madrid become most ever team success lead final round and collected 15 UCL trophies. First leg, Madrid will away to Allianz Arena before second leg on Bernabeu, its benefit for Madrid to get goals first leg and winning trend when away match against Bundesliga team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 24, 2024, 02:29:07 PM
Real Madrid had capital after victory over Barcelona in el clasico match, in domestic league Real Madrid leading awhile the first position standing and few matches later has opportunity with La Liga trophy. Giving benefit for Real Madrid to improve their performance in La Liga and secure the final place to make Madrid become most ever team success lead final round and collected 15 UCL trophies. First leg, Madrid will away to Allianz Arena before second leg on Bernabeu, its benefit for Madrid to get goals first leg and winning trend when away match against Bundesliga team.
They are ready to increase their number of Champions League trophies, yes, if they are successful this season they will collect 15 Champions League trophies, and become the team with the most Champions League wins.

Their next challenge is that Bayern Munich is one of the biggest teams in Europe. They are one of the teams that has never missed the Champions League. Real Madrid's chances are currently above Bayern Munich, but they have to keep working hard to win the match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 24, 2024, 10:31:09 PM
Real Madrid had capital after victory over Barcelona in el clasico match, in domestic league Real Madrid leading awhile the first position standing and few matches later has opportunity with La Liga trophy. Giving benefit for Real Madrid to improve their performance in La Liga and secure the final place to make Madrid become most ever team success lead final round and collected 15 UCL trophies. First leg, Madrid will away to Allianz Arena before second leg on Bernabeu, its benefit for Madrid to get goals first leg and winning trend when away match against Bundesliga team.
They are ready to increase their number of Champions League trophies, yes, if they are successful this season they will collect 15 Champions League trophies, and become the team with the most Champions League wins.

Their next challenge is that Bayern Munich is one of the biggest teams in Europe. They are one of the teams that has never missed the Champions League. Real Madrid's chances are currently above Bayern Munich, but they have to keep working hard to win the match.
Real Madrid has been the club with the most highest champion league trophy due to their commitment, dedication, and love for the league. I it very certain that they will be the club to win this season league too, because I don't see any club that will stop them this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on April 24, 2024, 10:32:59 PM
I believe that Perez made Real Madrid who they are, of course Real Madrid was a great team before him as well, we can't say that they were nobody, of course they were always great, but after him as their president? They became a team that's unreal, they became a team that is consistent and that's the biggest benefit. There aren't any team in the last 25 years that had the same type of success not only on their own league, but at UCL at the same time. They always end up building a team that could be title winners at la liga, and they have won so many of it in the last 25 years, even with a Messi Barcelona right there, but also they won so many UCL's as well. What they are doing is "unreal" :D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 25, 2024, 04:17:27 PM
They are ready to increase their number of Champions League trophies, yes, if they are successful this season they will collect 15 Champions League trophies, and become the team with the most Champions League wins.

Their next challenge is that Bayern Munich is one of the biggest teams in Europe. They are one of the teams that has never missed the Champions League. Real Madrid's chances are currently above Bayern Munich, but they have to keep working hard to win the match.
Real Madrid has been the club with the most highest champion league trophy due to their commitment, dedication, and love for the league. I it very certain that they will be the club to win this season league too, because I don't see any club that will stop them this season.
In terms of opportunities, they are indeed the team that has the highest chance of winning the Champions League title this season. However, this is still something that cannot be predicted with certainty, because the opponent they will face will not be an easy opponent.

Yes, their management is very serious about making this team always at its peak. They will do everything they can to make Real Madrid always the best team in Europe. and they have successfully proven that.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on April 25, 2024, 11:28:10 PM
Real Madrid has been the club with the most highest champion league trophy due to their commitment, dedication, and love for the league. I it very certain that they will be the club to win this season league too, because I don't see any club that will stop them this season.
Yep. Real Madrid is the king of UCL, they are the most winning of UCL trophies. I think it is not only about dedication and commitment in building a strong squad, Real Madrid also has a good luck and has a great mentality. There are no other teams that can be very consistent like Real Madrid. So far, Real Madrid is the only consistent team in UCL. However, it is not impossible that in the future we may see other teams with the same luck as Real Madrid, too.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 27, 2024, 01:02:28 AM
Real Madrid has been the club with the most highest champion league trophy due to their commitment, dedication, and love for the league. I it very certain that they will be the club to win this season league too, because I don't see any club that will stop them this season.
Yep. Real Madrid is the king of UCL, they are the most winning of UCL trophies. I think it is not only about dedication and commitment in building a strong squad, Real Madrid also has a good luck and has a great mentality. There are no other teams that can be very consistent like Real Madrid. So far, Real Madrid is the only consistent team in UCL. However, it is not impossible that in the future we may see other teams with the same luck as Real Madrid, too.

I very much agree with you, not only in the UCL, today they also beat Real Sociedad and they are practically caressing the league and that is something that Everyone saw, or well those of us who saw a lot, this time he used me as Ancelotti proposed, because he played a game of scoring a goal and defending himself completely, and something that Ancelott can do is defend himself very well, he is Italian and he is from the old school, he knows how to do things well, so In this other order of ideas, it can be said that Madrid is one of the best in the world and that is Something that no team can surpass Barcelona, they would have to stop winning UCL and Leagues to be able to achieve the other. teams an opportunity, both in the League and in the UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Litzki1990 on April 27, 2024, 06:18:13 AM
Real Madrid had capital after victory over Barcelona in el clasico match, in domestic league Real Madrid leading awhile the first position standing and few matches later has opportunity with La Liga trophy. Giving benefit for Real Madrid to improve their performance in La Liga and secure the final place to make Madrid become most ever team success lead final round and collected 15 UCL trophies. First leg, Madrid will away to Allianz Arena before second leg on Bernabeu, its benefit for Madrid to get goals first leg and winning trend when away match against Bundesliga team.
They are ready to increase their number of Champions League trophies, yes, if they are successful this season they will collect 15 Champions League trophies, and become the team with the most Champions League wins.

Their next challenge is that Bayern Munich is one of the biggest teams in Europe. They are one of the teams that has never missed the Champions League. Real Madrid's chances are currently above Bayern Munich, but they have to keep working hard to win the match.
Real Madrid has been the club with the most highest champion league trophy due to their commitment, dedication, and love for the league. I it very certain that they will be the club to win this season league too, because I don't see any club that will stop them this season.
Real Madrid's Champions League title win seems to be their tradition and they might just be there to win the Champions League title. The number of times Real Madrid has won the Champions League title so far, even if they do not win another title for another ten seasons from now, no team will be able to surpass Real Madrid in terms of title wins. Real Madrid are heavy favorites to win the title this season because there are no teams as strong as Real Madrid in this tournament. Apart from Real Madrid, Real Madrid is definitely the strongest among the three teams that are still in the Champions League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 27, 2024, 06:57:41 AM
Really? Wow! Please don't be saddened. When I saw the thread I thought it is the football league championship. Because I was captivated by Match. Please can you drop the link.

I think you should create one :)
Football is the most popular sport, and every match is entertainment that attracts many people.

BTW. The semi-final leg 1 of the Champions League between Real Madrid and Bayern will take place on May 1, Bayern will act as hosts.
I think this match will end in a draw. What do you think? Please share your opinion. I would appreciate it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on April 27, 2024, 09:36:47 AM
Real Madrid's Champions League title win seems to be their tradition and they might just be there to win the Champions League title. The number of times Real Madrid has won the Champions League title so far, even if they do not win another title for another ten seasons from now, no team will be able to surpass Real Madrid in terms of title wins. Real Madrid are heavy favorites to win the title this season because there are no teams as strong as Real Madrid in this tournament. Apart from Real Madrid, Real Madrid is definitely the strongest among the three teams that are still in the Champions League.
Real Madrid has unique record of winning the Champions League title, in the knockout round if they are able to get kick out the defending champion, they always have a chance to become champions and it seems that this season Madrid is one step closer to adding to its 15 Champions League titles after beating defending champion Manchester City in the quarter-finals.
Real Madrid is second favorite team for winning Champion League in this season under Manchester City, after Pep Guardiola team got eliminated automatically Madrid is the first favorite team will be the champion in this season and waiting the first leg match three days later will madrid easily get win or not?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 28, 2024, 03:06:27 PM
Borussia Dortmund will first play their home game in the first leg against Paris Saint Germain. This is something that benefits them, but it is also not easy. What is clear is that they must be able to take advantage of this match to achieve victory.

If they can win this match, then they will be able to open up even greater opportunities when they face each other in the second leg. However, if they lose in the first leg, it will be a much bigger pressure that they will feel.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on April 28, 2024, 03:17:22 PM
Real Madrid has been the club with the most highest champion league trophy due to their commitment, dedication, and love for the league. I it very certain that they will be the club to win this season league too, because I don't see any club that will stop them this season.

Real Madrid play Champions League as if they need it with their own life, it's that dedication timeline even the new players in the club dream up to today, they always look hungry that is why I think they have high hopes in winning this Champions League this season. Bayern has history of eliminating Real Madrid but this time is different.

Imagine if Real Madrid finally meet PSG and they flog them in the final, I will like to see Mbape reaction so bad if h is going to leave PSG or will be coming to Real Madrid next season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Primo1760 on April 28, 2024, 03:46:30 PM
Real Madrid had capital after victory over Barcelona in el clasico match, in domestic league Real Madrid leading awhile the first position standing and few matches later has opportunity with La Liga trophy. Giving benefit for Real Madrid to improve their performance in La Liga and secure the final place to make Madrid become most ever team success lead final round and collected 15 UCL trophies. First leg, Madrid will away to Allianz Arena before second leg on Bernabeu, its benefit for Madrid to get goals first leg and winning trend when away match against Bundesliga team.
They are ready to increase their number of Champions League trophies, yes, if they are successful this season they will collect 15 Champions League trophies, and become the team with the most Champions League wins.

Their next challenge is that Bayern Munich is one of the biggest teams in Europe. They are one of the teams that has never missed the Champions League. Real Madrid's chances are currently above Bayern Munich, but they have to keep working hard to win the match.
Real Madrid has been the club with the most highest champion league trophy due to their commitment, dedication, and love for the league. I it very certain that they will be the club to win this season league too, because I don't see any club that will stop them this season.
Currently, Real Madrid is the most likely to win the title. They are working hard and taking whatever steps are necessary to win. But if you think that the opponent is weak, then I think that Real Madrid will have a very low chance of winning because the opponents who will come with Real Madrid will be very strong. However, when Real Madrid's management is strong, they always try to do something good. I am a real madrid supporter and always predict real madrid champions.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 28, 2024, 08:29:33 PM
BTW. The semi-final leg 1 of the Champions League between Real Madrid and Bayern will take place on May 1, Bayern will act as hosts.
I think this match will end in a draw. What do you think? Please share your opinion. I would appreciate it.
Leg 1 draw is still very possible but there are some obstacles where the Bayern Munich squad has several injured players, of course this can be called worrying if it is a major player but I feel Bayern Munich is still ready to face Real Madrid at Allianz.

Maybe here Real Madrid can't do much in the sense that a draw is more than enough because in the second leg it could be decisive for Real Madrid at the Bernabeu, I feel that's the most important thing in the first leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 30, 2024, 01:28:34 PM
Leg 1 draw is still very possible but there are some obstacles where the Bayern Munich squad has several injured players, of course this can be called worrying if it is a major player but I feel Bayern Munich is still ready to face Real Madrid at Allianz.

Maybe here Real Madrid can't do much in the sense that a draw is more than enough because in the second leg it could be decisive for Real Madrid at the Bernabeu, I feel that's the most important thing in the first leg.

I agree, even though Konrad Laimer was able to overcome the injury he suffered last weekend, Matthijs de Light, Kingsley Coman, Dayot Upamecano, and Sacha Boey were not so lucky, they are still on the absent list.
And the experience of both teams will help them qualify. They are now within striking distance of Wembley and it could be a sensational end to the season for both.

Well, Then I will bet a draw. Hopefully, the bet will make me money :)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 30, 2024, 05:12:24 PM
Already placed your bets? I read that several of Bayern Munich's key players are carrying injuries and I cannot believe that they are currently the favorite in the first leg @2.28 (Real Madrid @3.1). Anyway, odds are good for both teams. This could end in a draw or a RM win by a single goal margin.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 30, 2024, 07:16:39 PM
This could end in a draw or a RM win by a single goal margin.
Bayern Munich were able to play better football against Arsenal than they played in their local league; they were more defensively compact and more difficult for Arsenal attackers to run through. If they're able to defend very well, as they did against Arsenal, then they may be able to win this first leg by a little margin or not concede enough goals to give them a chance still in the second leg. Regardless of everything, I still see Real Madrid qualifying for the finals at the end.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 30, 2024, 11:31:09 PM
This could end in a draw or a RM win by a single goal margin.
Bayern Munich were able to play better football against Arsenal than they played in their local league; they were more defensively compact and more difficult for Arsenal attackers to run through. If they're able to defend very well, as they did against Arsenal, then they may be able to win this first leg by a little margin or not concede enough goals to give them a chance still in the second leg. Regardless of everything, I still see Real Madrid qualifying for the finals at the end.
Of course, Bayern Munich were able to play an impressive game tonight despite the fact that a lot of people thought that they will lose the match to Madrid. But this was not so as Bayern Munich was able to stand on their ground and see that the match ended in a 2-2. A balanced game tonight, and both players made the game interesting. The problem now lies in the second leg, as Bayern will be going to Spain to meet with their fate.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on April 30, 2024, 11:42:54 PM
Definitely was a lot closer than I expected, I assumed Real would win, but beating Bayern at their home ground is never easy, even o their worst season they are still good and I believe that we are going to end up with something decent one way or another, that has to be the most common thing. I believe that we are going to see UCL being something quite fun no matter what, it always has that kind of shocking results but this was a little expected. I mean I did expected Real to win, but tie wasn't that far off, it looked liked it would be possible to get a draw as well. Glad that I watched the game, it was super fun.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 01, 2024, 09:32:46 AM
Definitely was a lot closer than I expected, I assumed Real would win, but beating Bayern at their home ground is never easy, even o their worst season they are still good and I believe that we are going to end up with something decent one way or another, that has to be the most common thing. I believe that we are going to see UCL being something quite fun no matter what, it always has that kind of shocking results but this was a little expected. I mean I did expected Real to win, but tie wasn't that far off, it looked liked it would be possible to get a draw as well. Glad that I watched the game, it was super fun.
The draw at home Bayern is actually also a positive sign for Real Madrid. Who will indeed be more favored when playing in the second leg as hosts. Meanwhile, Bayern, who could only hold Real Madrid to a draw in the first leg, was really not a good result for Bayern. because in the second leg everything will be more difficult. Because Real Madrid usually plays better at their own home.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on May 01, 2024, 09:50:28 AM
Of course, Bayern Munich were able to play an impressive game tonight despite the fact that a lot of people thought that they will lose the match to Madrid. But this was not so as Bayern Munich was able to stand on their ground and see that the match ended in a 2-2. A balanced game tonight, and both players made the game interesting. The problem now lies in the second leg, as Bayern will be going to Spain to meet with their fate.

Great match as expected, power to power. The Champions League is so cold.
The match was excellent and respect was shown on both sides.
Bayern Munich played a great match and the referee did his job well
Viní and Rodrygo are good players. They are too dangerous.
Bayern needs to be careful with them in the 2nd leg, they can hurt you in a split second.

See you at the Bernabéu next week and I hope Matthijs de Ligt will be available to play
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on May 01, 2024, 10:10:03 AM
The draw at home Bayern is actually also a positive sign for Real Madrid. Who will indeed be more favored when playing in the second leg as hosts. Meanwhile, Bayern, who could only hold Real Madrid to a draw in the first leg, was really not a good result for Bayern. because in the second leg everything will be more difficult. Because Real Madrid usually plays better at their own home.
Being draw on first leg match against Bayern Munich on their home is good capital for Real Madrid second leg match will play as home match, I think Carlo Ancelotti will play more aggressive and offensive on the early minute at second leg matches. But being draw still has opportunity for Bayern Munich because they won't loss one opportunity for winning Champion League tittle as only one left trophy in this season.

Tonight Dortmund vs PSG, both teams have faced in group phase but the semifinal match will be difference and each team want to get good result for first leg match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Power420 on May 01, 2024, 12:34:52 PM
Real Madrid team performed very well, only Vinicius Junior scored two goals with his magic of feet. Bayern Munich had the most attacks in the game with a total of 14 attacks and two successful attacks, but the opposite team Real Madrid performed very strongly with a total of 10 attacks. However, the second game will give an idea of ​​their performance, as both the teams are going forward with similar performances.  But I think Bayern munich team is very strong at home but in the end real madrid team will be more likely to win this game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on May 01, 2024, 01:20:06 PM
As expected, PSG opened up as the favorite @2.41 (Dortmund @2.9). Like the other semi-finals, odds are pretty good for both teams. I don't think this will be a draw but it will be close, maybe a low scoring match with 1-0 goal. If you're unsure of who would win, the odds for total score (under) are also attractive.

under 2.0 @3.9
under 2.5 @2.4
under 3.0 @1.94
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on May 01, 2024, 01:27:52 PM
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Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on May 01, 2024, 04:44:59 PM
As expected, PSG opened up as the favorite @2.41 (Dortmund @2.9). Like the other semi-finals, odds are pretty good for both teams. I don't think this will be a draw but it will be close, maybe a low scoring match with 1-0 goal. If you're unsure of who would win, the odds for total score (under) are also attractive.

under 2.0 @3.9
under 2.5 @2.4
under 3.0 @1.94
I am also not expecting a draw from this match tonight, and I believe that PSG should be able to win Dortmund. However, the game might change and we will see a surprise, apart from any surprises, PSG should be able to win the match. Dortmund should not be underestimated for the to have come this far to the semifinals, it means that they are in their best form and ready to win any club that crosses their line.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on May 01, 2024, 05:35:22 PM
As expected, PSG opened up as the favorite @2.41 (Dortmund @2.9). Like the other semi-finals, odds are pretty good for both teams. I don't think this will be a draw but it will be close, maybe a low scoring match with 1-0 goal. If you're unsure of who would win, the odds for total score (under) are also attractive.

under 2.0 @3.9
under 2.5 @2.4
under 3.0 @1.94
I am also not expecting a draw from this match tonight, and I believe that PSG should be able to win Dortmund. However, the game might change and we will see a surprise, apart from any surprises, PSG should be able to win the match. Dortmund should not be underestimated for the to have come this far to the semifinals, it means that they are in their best form and ready to win any club that crosses their line.
It is not easy for Paris Saint Germain to win this match, because even though they can be said to be better than Borussia Dortmund, Borussia Dortmund is still a real threat to Paris Siant Germain, especially since they will also be playing at their own headquarters in this match.

Borussia Dortmund will also definitely be aiming for victory, because winning will allow them to further increase their chances of being in the final. However, if Paris Siant Germain can get good results, then of course that will benefit them in the second leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on May 01, 2024, 05:47:01 PM
The draw at home Bayern is actually also a positive sign for Real Madrid. Who will indeed be more favored when playing in the second leg as hosts. Meanwhile, Bayern, who could only hold Real Madrid to a draw in the first leg, was really not a good result for Bayern. because in the second leg everything will be more difficult. Because Real Madrid usually plays better at their own home.

Bayern Munich played Real Madrid but Madrid is smart enough to stand their ground and refuse to concede more goals than what they score Munich and now I don't expect them Bayern Munich to be this bold to win Real Madrid in Bernabeu, they will concede more goals than Real Madrid even if they eventually try their best.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on May 01, 2024, 09:56:46 PM
Dortmund 1  vs PSG 0
It is still ongoing in half-time'

It turns out that what happened in the field was quite surprising. Because many predictions say that PSG will definitely win. But this time, they were still 1 goal behind from Dortmund and couldn't make sense of the position until half-time ended. This certainly won't be easy and it would be one of the surprising things if PSG were to lose. But let's just leave it be, this is still the first leg and there are still opportunities in the future. So, actually we need to keep calm down as long as the match hasn't ended yet, so there are still many possibilities regarding UCL in this semi-final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on May 01, 2024, 10:52:20 PM
Borussia Dortmund will also definitely be aiming for victory, because winning will allow them to further increase their chances of being in the final. However, if Paris Siant Germain can get good results, then of course that will benefit them in the second leg.
From what I have seen in today's Champions League match, is like Borussia Dortmund is having a home victory against PSG. They scored in the 36 minutes of play, and since then no other goal has entered but attempts to score have been made from both teams, which had Borussia Dortmund having 4 shots on target and PSG 3.

We wait for the second leg encounter between both teams when PSG host Borussia Dortmund at their home. Winning will be their best option so that they can advance to the finals of the Champions League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on May 01, 2024, 11:23:24 PM
Borussia Dortmund will also definitely be aiming for victory, because winning will allow them to further increase their chances of being in the final. However, if Paris Siant Germain can get good results, then of course that will benefit them in the second leg.
From what I have seen in today's Champions League match, is like Borussia Dortmund is having a home victory against PSG. They scored in the 36 minutes of play, and since then no other goal has entered but attempts to score have been made from both teams, which had Borussia Dortmund having 4 shots on target and PSG 3.

We wait for the second leg encounter between both teams when PSG host Borussia Dortmund at their home. Winning will be their best option so that they can advance to the finals of the Champions League.
A good advantage for Dortmund as they are on one point ahead of Real Madrid, and this will be a motivation for them in the second leg. The second half was filled with many missed opportunities, and no goal was able to pass through into the nets of either of the team. The only goal scored by Dortmund in the second half made a difference in today's match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: notblox1 on May 01, 2024, 11:38:46 PM
Crazy how many chances PSG missed today against Dortmund and I expected to see a lot more goals, but next match will decide everything.
I think that PSG is still a big favorite and they will play better at home stadium, this should be the same for Real Madrid against Bayern.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on May 01, 2024, 11:46:16 PM
Borussia was the biggest underdog out of the 4 remaining teams, but they say there are no weak teams at this stage of the tournament and BvB proved this statement to be right.
The outright odds for Borussia to win UCL were x10.0 before today's game and I wonder if the bookies will still give them the least chance when the odds get updated.
The 1-0 win might not sound like a lot, but it'll put PSG under a lot of pressure. Moreover (as per the league statistics) BvB tends to perform slightly better at away games.

Bayern fans must feel disappointed. It was a pretty even game but it looked like Bayern could drive the win to the end until that completely unnecessary foul in the penalty area by Kim. The rematch in Mardid is not going to be easy.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on May 02, 2024, 01:46:03 AM
To be fair, PSG dropping the ball just as they have a chance is such a PSG thing to do and not really that unexpected. I know that its not really that complicated situation we are in right now, and its quite obvious to say that we are not going to end up with PSG getting a guaranteed win. Don't know what will happen in the second game though, they could very well do what they did to Barcelona and get an easy win too, or they could just lose even bigger, what PSG will do is so inconsistent that nobody has any idea. If the second game ends with 3-0 PSG result, I would not be surprised, but if it ends with Dortmund 3-0 win I would equally not be surprised at all.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on May 02, 2024, 07:38:17 AM
I don't think this will be a draw but it will be close, maybe a low scoring match with 1-0 goal. If you're unsure of who would win, the odds for total score (under) are also attractive.

under 2.0 @3.9
under 2.5 @2.4
under 3.0 @1.94
Anyone who followed this prediction? I won some from picking the under 2.5. Honestly, I was thinking it would be PSG that would come out as the winner but I didn't take the risk and I opted for the total score instead. Anyway, I expect the second leg to produce more goals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on May 02, 2024, 04:28:33 PM
Borussia Dortmund successfully secured victory in the first leg of the Champions League semi-final against Paris Saint Germain. The goal scored by Niclas Fullkrug in the first half was the only goal that made them successful in securing victory.

This result makes them more comfortable in the second leg, because they only need to get a draw to advance to the final. However, that is not an easy thing for them to do, because they also have to play at Paris Saint Germain's headquarters and it is certain that Paris Saint Germain will go all out.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 02, 2024, 07:31:55 PM
Borussia Dortmund successfully secured victory in the first leg of the Champions League semi-final against Paris Saint Germain. The goal scored by Niclas Fullkrug in the first half was the only goal that made them successful in securing victory.

This result makes them more comfortable in the second leg, because they only need to get a draw to advance to the final. However, that is not an easy thing for them to do, because they also have to play at Paris Saint Germain's headquarters and it is certain that Paris Saint Germain will go all out.
Dortmund played beyond all of our expectations in the first leg.
But PSG in the first leg actually also had several opportunities which almost became a goal if they didn't hit the goal post. But somehow PSG seemed to have lost sharpness in completing attacks. Dortmund made more attacks that could endanger PSG's goal. So the score of 1-0 was very appropriate. And yes, in the second leg we will definitely see PSG who are much more aggressive. because in the second leg PSG must catch up by scoring at least 2 goals and not conceding. The position as host can be an advantage and PSG must make good use of it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on May 02, 2024, 07:45:11 PM
Crazy how many chances PSG missed today against Dortmund and I expected to see a lot more goals, but next match will decide everything.
I think that PSG is still a big favorite and they will play better at home stadium, this should be the same for Real Madrid against Bayern.

Dortmund is not small in the eyes of PSG and plus they hosted PSG, conceding goals is bound to happen but PSG didn't make use of all the opportunities they had but who know what will happen in the second leg if they visit PSG stadium. I know for a fact that PSG will not let go of this tournament without a fight especially how silent Mbape has been, there might be some sort of changes we might no see coming they will use to knockdown Dortmund in the second leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 02, 2024, 07:53:50 PM
Crazy how many chances PSG missed today against Dortmund and I expected to see a lot more goals, but next match will decide everything.
I think that PSG is still a big favorite and they will play better at home stadium, this should be the same for Real Madrid against Bayern.

Dortmund is not small in the eyes of PSG and plus they hosted PSG, conceding goals is bound to happen but PSG didn't make use of all the opportunities they had but who know what will happen in the second leg if they visit PSG stadium. I know for a fact that PSG will not let go of this tournament without a fight especially how silent Mbape has been, there might be some sort of changes we might no see coming they will use to knockdown Dortmund in the second leg.
Mbappe is always closely guarded by his opponents. But in yesterday's match Mbappe also almost scored a goal but his shot hit the goalpost at that time. Even though the Dortmund goalkeeper was fooled at that time. And maybe in the second leg we will finally see a more aggressive PSG. But Dortmund will definitely be prepared to face all of that. Because after all, Dortmund is also quite good at maintaining their lead.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on May 02, 2024, 11:09:43 PM
Mbappe is always closely guarded by his opponents. But in yesterday's match Mbappe also almost scored a goal but his shot hit the goalpost at that time. Even though the Dortmund goalkeeper was fooled at that time. And maybe in the second leg we will finally see a more aggressive PSG. But Dortmund will definitely be prepared to face all of that. Because after all, Dortmund is also quite good at maintaining their lead.
Yes, we can see that Mbappe's guard is really tight. Unfortunately, other players at PSG have not yet been able to optimize these chances, by making breakthroughs on the other side, because perhaps the opposing players are quite focused on Mbappe. And it's true, Mbappe has also endangered the opponent's goal several times, but unfortunately it wasn't good enough, so he lost, completely closed and almost scored a goal. but unfortunately, it was really thwarted by the Dortmund goalkeeper. Honestly, this time, Kobel played very well.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on May 03, 2024, 02:14:36 PM
Borussia Dortmund successfully secured victory in the first leg of the Champions League semi-final against Paris Saint Germain. The goal scored by Niclas Fullkrug in the first half was the only goal that made them successful in securing victory.

This result makes them more comfortable in the second leg, because they only need to get a draw to advance to the final. However, that is not an easy thing for them to do, because they also have to play at Paris Saint Germain's headquarters and it is certain that Paris Saint Germain will go all out.
Dortmund played beyond all of our expectations in the first leg.
But PSG in the first leg actually also had several opportunities which almost became a goal if they didn't hit the goal post. But somehow PSG seemed to have lost sharpness in completing attacks. Dortmund made more attacks that could endanger PSG's goal. So the score of 1-0 was very appropriate. And yes, in the second leg we will definitely see PSG who are much more aggressive. because in the second leg PSG must catch up by scoring at least 2 goals and not conceding. The position as host can be an advantage and PSG must make good use of it.
Actually, this game was a draw, neither team dominated more, except for Paris Saint Germain's effort in the final minutes, but that didn't result in a goal for them.

I think this result is a good result, because Borussia Dortmund also played well so they were able to score a goal in the first half which they were able to defend until the end of the match.

I can't say that Borussia Dortmund's game exceeded expectations, because they are also a good team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 03, 2024, 06:23:46 PM
Mbappe is always closely guarded by his opponents. But in yesterday's match Mbappe also almost scored a goal but his shot hit the goalpost at that time. Even though the Dortmund goalkeeper was fooled at that time. And maybe in the second leg we will finally see a more aggressive PSG. But Dortmund will definitely be prepared to face all of that. Because after all, Dortmund is also quite good at maintaining their lead.
Yes, we can see that Mbappe's guard is really tight. Unfortunately, other players at PSG have not yet been able to optimize these chances, by making breakthroughs on the other side, because perhaps the opposing players are quite focused on Mbappe. And it's true, Mbappe has also endangered the opponent's goal several times, but unfortunately it wasn't good enough, so he lost, completely closed and almost scored a goal. but unfortunately, it was really thwarted by the Dortmund goalkeeper. Honestly, this time, Kobel played very well.
Mbappe is always a player who is closely guarded by opposing players in any match. So it's not surprising that Dortmund also did it. And when Dortmund took a 1 goal lead in the match, Mbappe's guard actually became looser so that several times Mbappe almost scored a goal. Luckily the Dortmund players returned their focus to defending better. And yes, their goalkeeper, Kobel, did make a very good save in that match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on May 03, 2024, 06:32:36 PM
Mbappe is always a player who is closely guarded by opposing players in any match. So it's not surprising that Dortmund also did it. And when Dortmund took a 1 goal lead in the match, Mbappe's guard actually became looser so that several times Mbappe almost scored a goal. Luckily the Dortmund players returned their focus to defending better. And yes, their goalkeeper, Kobel, did make a very good save in that match.
Dortmund may not remain lucky in the second leg, and Mbappe will not be easier to hold just because they did it in the first leg. Those men will need to work extra hard because playing PSG at home will not be as easy as playing PSG in Germany.

I am proud of Sancho, and how important he has turned out to be for Dortmund after Erik Ten Hag humiliated him. In the second leg, it will be necessary for PSG defenders to find a way to deal with him because he was a menace to them in the first leg, and if allowed to do so again in the second leg, it can be very instrumental to Dortmund's qualification to the finals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Power420 on May 03, 2024, 07:02:54 PM
PSG will get another chance here and if they can perform well then they will definitely have a high chance of making it to the final. Because these two teams are composed of very strong and experienced players, although in this match the Dortmund team made a call before half time, there were no further scoring opportunities. But both teams made attack after attack without succeeding, especially PSG team had 14 attacks in the whole match but their attacks were simple.  But if they can seize another opportunity to enter the final match, this game will surely be full of competition.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 04, 2024, 08:57:03 AM
PSG will get another chance here and if they can perform well then they will definitely have a high chance of making it to the final. Because these two teams are composed of very strong and experienced players, although in this match the Dortmund team made a call before half time, there were no further scoring opportunities. But both teams made attack after attack without succeeding, especially PSG team had 14 attacks in the whole match but their attacks were simple.  But if they can seize another opportunity to enter the final match, this game will surely be full of competition.

I think that in the DORTMUND game they read their Strategies very well, and here Luis Enrique has to innovate, try something else , the German team has very good football, great physical resistance and if they play him in FRANCE, Mbappé will hardly be able to do it defensively. something, it's because PSG couldn't do much because Dortmund knew that they attack from the sides and always throw the ball to Mbappé, that was the team's reading, so what Dortmund did was counteract those intentions and they did things very well. Better because Luis Enrique had planned them , and well they have already shown in France that they are capable of turning the result around, so this is going to be very good.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on May 04, 2024, 09:57:22 AM
PSG will get another chance here and if they can perform well then they will definitely have a high chance of making it to the final. Because these two teams are composed of very strong and experienced players, although in this match the Dortmund team made a call before half time, there were no further scoring opportunities. But both teams made attack after attack without succeeding, especially PSG team had 14 attacks in the whole match but their attacks were simple.  But if they can seize another opportunity to enter the final match, this game will surely be full of competition.
It should be an important match in the second leg but because they have been in the same group before, they have the experience of playing at home where PSG is more favored and it won 2-0 when it was still in the group phase but I hope in the second semifinal PSG can do the same.

Maybe Dortmund will keep an eye on how they fare away from home, it's certainly a tough game for Dortmund but 1-0 on aggregate is enough because PSG will do more than two goals.

Maybe Dortmund will play defense and strengthen their defense.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on May 04, 2024, 11:13:40 AM
It should be an important match in the second leg but because they have been in the same group before, they have the experience of playing at home where PSG is more favored and it won 2-0 when it was still in the group phase but I hope in the second semifinal PSG can do the same.

Maybe Dortmund will keep an eye on how they fare away from home, it's certainly a tough game for Dortmund but 1-0 on aggregate is enough because PSG will do more than two goals.

Maybe Dortmund will play defense and strengthen their defense.

Luis Enrique should come up with better tactics and stop focusing all the attention on Kylian Mbappe. Certainly, Dortmund wouldn't want to give up a 1-0 lead advantage, but that doesn't mean they should travel to France to solely defend and prevent PSG from scoring. They should also aim to attack, create chances, and capitalize on their opportunities. If PSG manages to score first, making the aggregate score 1-1, then one would expect more pressure from them, which could potentially lead them to victory and the finals.

I'm not sure if home advantage always plays a significant role, especially in Champions League fixtures. If that were the case, then City would have qualified ahead of Real Madrid. I really hope to see Dortmund in the finals, and perhaps Bayern joining them. Football can be unpredictable at times. A club's performance or form doesn't always determine outcomes, especially in competitions like this.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on May 05, 2024, 04:42:54 AM
Real Madrid clinching the La Liga title early means bad news for Bayern Munich in the second leg because they can go all out without thinking of potential injuries. If you're planning to bet on this match, then now is probably a good time while the odds are still high @1.85 for RM.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Litzki1990 on May 05, 2024, 06:56:24 AM
Real Madrid clinching the La Liga title early means bad news for Bayern Munich in the second leg because they can go all out without thinking of potential injuries. If you're planning to bet on this match, then now is probably a good time while the odds are still high @1.85 for RM.
Real Madrid has long gone ahead to win the La Liga title to focus only on the Champions League and Real Madrid confirmed the La Liga title with the last match. Real Madrid have no worries about the next La Liga match, now their only thought and only plan is the Champions League second leg match. First leg match Real Madrid drew with Bayern Munich that was Bayern Munich's home venue but the second match will be held at Real Madrid's home ground where the fans home advantage will take everything Real Madrid and in the second leg match Real Madrid will definitely be ahead. Since Real Madrid's thoughts and plans are only about the Champions League semi-final match, they will surely succeed in this plan.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on May 07, 2024, 10:13:29 PM
          PSG 0-0 BVB

It was a goalless first half in Paris, as Dortmund were a le to hold down PSG from scoring any goal in the first half. Perhaps PSG had good opportunities but it was not possible for them to find the back of the net because Dortmund defense is strong. The second half have just begun and PSG needs to score a goal in order to make the game more interesting or will they accept defeat just like that?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on May 07, 2024, 10:44:13 PM
          PSG 0-0 BVB
It is now currently
PSG 0 - 1 Dortmund

PSG are still unable to optimize the various mechanisms they have to score goals. And it was too late because Dortmund actually scored the goal. And what's worse, PSG was completely unable to apply a deadly attack. And it's really too late. Because, Dortmund has currently implemented a defensive strategy, so it will be much more difficult for PSG to break through Dortmund's defense line.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on May 07, 2024, 11:48:42 PM
It is now currently
PSG 0 - 1 Dortmund
Maybe Dortmund will be a better opponent for Real Madrid if they are the team to make it to the finals tomorrow because they are defensively strong.

With PSG out of the way, and Mbappe out of the race for the Ballon d'or with this exit from the UCL, who among Vini, Bellingham or Harry kane do you think will win the award?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on May 08, 2024, 04:38:30 AM
Maybe Dortmund will be a better opponent for Real Madrid if they are the team to make it to the finals tomorrow because they are defensively strong.

With PSG out of the way, and Mbappe out of the race for the Ballon d'or with this exit from the UCL, who among Vini, Bellingham or Harry kane do you think will win the award?
I doubt Harry Kane will race for winning Ballon D'Or despite winning the Champion League trophy because he failed win Bundesliga tittle with Bayern Munich. I think if Madrid will qualify for Champion League final match and winning over Dortmund have bigger chance not only Jude Bellingham but also Vinicius Jr are favorite players for winning Ballon D'Or if not FIFA giving to Lionel Messi.
Dortmund success kick out PSG in the semifinal round after winning second leg match and aggregate over 2-0, I don't know what happen with PSG played as home match but difficult for winning against Dortmund.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on May 08, 2024, 05:16:02 AM
Real Madrid clinching the La Liga title early means bad news for Bayern Munich in the second leg because they can go all out without thinking of potential injuries. If you're planning to bet on this match, then now is probably a good time while the odds are still high @1.85 for RM.
Real Madrid has long gone ahead to win the La Liga title to focus only on the Champions League and Real Madrid confirmed the La Liga title with the last match. Real Madrid have no worries about the next La Liga match, now their only thought and only plan is the Champions League second leg match. First leg match Real Madrid drew with Bayern Munich that was Bayern Munich's home venue but the second match will be held at Real Madrid's home ground where the fans home advantage will take everything Real Madrid and in the second leg match Real Madrid will definitely be ahead. Since Real Madrid's thoughts and plans are only about the Champions League semi-final match, they will surely succeed in this plan.
Real Madrid will surely focus more on this Semi final match with Bayern Munich, since they've already secured the La Liga title, their focus would be mainly on the Champions league title now.
The team can actually devote their time now to make all the necessary preparations for the second leg of the semi final.
Again since they'll also be playing the match at their home, they also have the home advantage as well as the full support of their fans, perhaps this will give Real Madrid an edge and a great boost to display an outstanding performance on the second leg today.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on May 08, 2024, 07:40:42 AM

Dortmund success kick out PSG in the semifinal round after winning second leg match and aggregate over 2-0, I don't know what happen with PSG played as home match but difficult for winning against Dortmund.

There were too many attempts in the second half with no goal... It looks like PSG is out of luck. It hurts, but the best team wins.
The appearance of the Dortmund squad was impressive,  Mats Hummels played well. He is the real definition of age is just a number :)

If Bayern can beat Real Madrid in the second leg, this will repeat the 2013 UCL final.
And the Dortmund 2013 team is still kicking, Now they have the chance to win it. And the revenge finale is the title
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on May 08, 2024, 09:05:13 AM
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There were too many attempts in the second half with no goal... It looks like PSG is out of luck.
PSG players were also fighting the woodwork and the crossbar that time ;D I completely got it wrong with my betting but this is football, anything can happen.

For real Madrid vs. Bayern, I also think this is going be RM but I'm looking at over 2.5 goals
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on May 08, 2024, 01:02:02 PM
I'm kicking myself for not making a small bet on Borussia to win, when the odds were at something like x25.0.
Great win by the Dortmund team, they might not be doing that great in the Bundeliga (currently occupying 5th place), but if they manage to win the UCL I'm sure their fans will forgive them. It would be their second time to win the UCL Cup, the first time was in 1997, so quite a long time ago.

As for the game itself, PSG was extremely unlucky, I think they had like 4 shots that went off the post/cross-bar, but it's fair to say that the Dortmund's win is fully deserved.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 08, 2024, 02:08:04 PM
I'm kicking myself for not making a small bet on Borussia to win, when the odds were at something like x25.0.
Great win by the Dortmund team, they might not be doing that great in the Bundeliga (currently occupying 5th place), but if they manage to win the UCL I'm sure their fans will forgive them. It would be their second time to win the UCL Cup, the first time was in 1997, so quite a long time ago.

As for the game itself, PSG was extremely unlucky, I think they had like 4 shots that went off the post/cross-bar, but it's fair to say that the Dortmund's win is fully deserved.
What surprised me in this match was that PSG continued to create good opportunities. But everything failed to become a goal. And several shots always hit the goal post. Dortmund was very lucky in this match and PSG was unlucky in this match. But Dortmund from the start always made quick counterattacks and always troubled PSG's defense. PSG was a little careless in defense in this match. Because PSG is focused on attacking to score goals because they have been behind since the first leg.

The Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich match will definitely be a difficult match like the PSG vs Dortmund match. I'm now even less sure who will win. After seeing Dortmund make it to the Final, I am not sure who will next make it to the Final to meet Dortmund.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on May 08, 2024, 02:11:24 PM
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There were too many attempts in the second half with no goal... It looks like PSG is out of luck.
PSG players were also fighting the woodwork and the crossbar that time ;D I completely got it wrong with my betting but this is football, anything can happen.

For real Madrid vs. Bayern, I also think this is going be RM but I'm looking at over 2.5 goals
Indeed, in my opinion they are also very unlucky in this match, because their efforts are always thwarted by the crossbar and goalposts, this match is a match between Paris Saint Germain vs Crossbar

They looked very frustrated with what they experienced in this match. It can be seen that the players have tried their best, but if luck is not on their side, then they will face unpleasant situations like this.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on May 08, 2024, 10:05:30 PM
          PSG 0-0 BVB
It is now currently
PSG 0 - 1 Dortmund
With this defeat of PSG against Dortmund, the Champions League final has become a sure deal for Dortmund. Dortmund will gat to play against any team that wins in today's game between Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.

Currently, Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich has finished playing the first half without a goal. The second half will begin in a short time, and I anticipate goals to be scored either from Real Madrid or Bayern Munich before the end of the second half. However, let's see how the match will turn out to be since it is Real Madrid's home to win by all means to reach the finals of UEFA
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on May 08, 2024, 11:19:29 PM
Currently, Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich has finished playing the first half without a goal. The second half will begin in a short time, and I anticipate goals to be scored either from Real Madrid or Bayern Munich before the end of the second half. However, let's see how the match will turn out to be since it is Real Madrid's home to win by all means to reach the finals of UEFA
The match is over and Real Madrid managed to win the match with two goals scored by Joselu. The first goal was scored on the 89th minutes, while the second one was scored on 90+1 minutes of the extra time. Tuchel gambled with this match by substituting his strikers and brought in defenders. He was a shock to him, when he saw Real Madrid took the lead.
Congratulations to Real Madrid.

R.Madrid 2-1 Munich
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on May 09, 2024, 01:05:17 AM
Currently, Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich has finished playing the first half without a goal. The second half will begin in a short time, and I anticipate goals to be scored either from Real Madrid or Bayern Munich before the end of the second half. However, let's see how the match will turn out to be since it is Real Madrid's home to win by all means to reach the finals of UEFA
The match is over and Real Madrid managed to win the match with two goals scored by Joselu. The first goal was scored on the 89th minutes, while the second one was scored on 90+1 minutes of the extra time. Tuchel gambled with this match by substituting his strikers and brought in defenders. He was a shock to him, when he saw Real Madrid took the lead.
Congratulations to Real Madrid.

R.Madrid 2-1 Munich
A gambling game we can call it, but that's the best move Tuchel could think of at that time because his team was leading by a goal against Real Madrid and Real Madrid was pressuring them to equalize before the end of the second half.

Tuchel was unlucky that his defensive tactics didn't work out as planned the moment Bayern Munich scored first against Real Madrid in the 68 minutes of play. Had it been it worked, we would have congratulated him for adopting a defensive game his team was winning by 0-1. Nevertheless, Real Madrid just showed that they are superior and formidable to Bayern Munich when it about Champions League match encounters
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on May 09, 2024, 01:15:44 AM
I am not even shocked about the fact that Real Madrid made a very last minute comeback, they do that quite often to be fair and that wasn't a shock for me. However, what was shocking was the fact that we have seen Joselu was the one who made that happen, dude had two goals back to back, this dude didn't had back to back goals all season long and he had it at the very last minutes of a semi-finals UCL game to get the winner.

I do also believe that Bayern goal was not offside, that was such a shame that their goal was stopped, at this point we all know that you just let the position go before you decide later on, and referee didn't do that for some reason. But such is life and while it might be unfair, there isn't really anything we can do to change this, so we just have to accept a mistake was made. I am glad it was made :D I had money on the line and won thanks to that mistake lol.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on May 09, 2024, 05:21:42 AM
I am not even shocked about the fact that Real Madrid made a very last minute comeback, they do that quite often to be fair and that wasn't a shock for me. However, what was shocking was the fact that we have seen Joselu was the one who made that happen, dude had two goals back to back, this dude didn't had back to back goals all season long and he had it at the very last minutes of a semi-finals UCL game to get the winner.

I do also believe that Bayern goal was not offside, that was such a shame that their goal was stopped, at this point we all know that you just let the position go before you decide later on, and referee didn't do that for some reason. But such is life and while it might be unfair, there isn't really anything we can do to change this, so we just have to accept a mistake was made. I am glad it was made :D I had money on the line and won thanks to that mistake lol.
Apart from the controversy over Bayern Munich's last goal being disallowed for offside, I think Bayern Munich's tactician Thomas Tuchel made several mistakes in his substitutions. They were ahead until the 87th minute but Bayern failed to maintain their victory after Madrid made a successful comeback in the final minute.
After taking the lead in the 68th minute through a goal from Alphonso Davies, Bayern Munich's game got even worse and there were many game delays. I think difference result if Bayern Munich keep playing such as the first minutes keep focus defense not only full defense
Congrats for Madrid reached 15 champion league final match and one important thing Madrid never loss yet in the final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on May 09, 2024, 06:33:37 AM
I am not even shocked about the fact that Real Madrid made a very last minute comeback, they do that quite often to be fair and that wasn't a shock for me. However, what was shocking was the fact that we have seen Joselu was the one who made that happen, dude had two goals back to back, this dude didn't had back to back goals all season long and he had it at the very last minutes of a semi-finals UCL game to get the winner.

I do also believe that Bayern goal was not offside, that was such a shame that their goal was stopped, at this point we all know that you just let the position go before you decide later on, and referee didn't do that for some reason. But such is life and while it might be unfair, there isn't really anything we can do to change this, so we just have to accept a mistake was made. I am glad it was made :D I had money on the line and won thanks to that mistake lol.

It's happened again and It is a miraculous goal. Others call it Luck :)
Joselu is wearing 14, taking Madrid to 15!
Congratulations on reaching the final...

The 23/24 season was not easy for Bayern, with managerial and board issues, and injuries, I didn't expect Bayern to make it this far.
However, they have managed to overcome these obstacles, and I would like to credit the players and Tuchel.
It's time to get your head up, get things under control, and focus on planning for next season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on May 09, 2024, 10:08:11 AM
Another epic loss for Munich. This reminds of their Finals loss to United (98-99 season).

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Apart from the controversy over Bayern Munich's last goal being disallowed for offside, I think Bayern Munich's tactician Thomas Tuchel made several mistakes in his substitutions.
What do you think were the errors in his substitutions? Who should have been subbed out or subbed in? Their goalkeeper made a huge mistake in the first RM goal. It looked like a routine stop but the ball somehow escaped from his hands.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Power420 on May 09, 2024, 01:37:27 PM
I thought from the beginning and almost until the end of the game that Real Madrid would lose. But I bet on Real Madrid but I lost because Real Madrid secured the win after going to extra minutes. But I believe that Real Madrid team is really strong whenever they can perform well offensively. Joselu has shown how to take the team to victory in moments, he alone played enough to take Real Madrid to the final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 09, 2024, 02:26:34 PM
Last season's final was very interesting because Inter Milan was like a dark horse last season. And Man City was the opponent who finally became champion last season. And this season almost the same situation is repeated. Because Dortmund, which is like a dark horse this season, will also have a tough opponent, namely Real Madrid. Last season the dark horse, Inter Milan, failed in the Final. And now I wonder whether Dortmund will also fail in the final because they were defeated by Real Madrid. I think it's very interesting. considering that the scenarios of last season and current season are almost similar. But the final result may be different. Where last season Man City won the title as everyone expected. And this season, Real Madrid will also win the title as the majority of people expect.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on May 09, 2024, 05:35:53 PM
Joselu has shown how to take the team to victory in moments, he alone played enough to take Real Madrid to the final.
He made history; nobody expected that. Ancelloti got his substitutions right, and it earned them a place in the finals. Dortmund, even though they are seen as the underdog, should not be written off because they are very capable of an upset with how well they defend and how well they can attack.

Sancho can be as dangerous as Vinicius Jr.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on May 09, 2024, 05:53:34 PM
Joselu has shown how to take the team to victory in moments, he alone played enough to take Real Madrid to the final.
He made history; nobody expected that. Ancelloti got his substitutions right, and it earned them a place in the finals. Dortmund, even though they are seen as the underdog, should not be written off because they are very capable of an upset with how well they defend and how well they can attack.

Sancho can be as dangerous as Vinicius Jr.
Even before there was criticism of Joselu why Real Madrid recruited him even though it was only a loan status but now he knows that Joselu brought Real Madrid to the final with two goals from him of course this is something extraordinary while Ancelotti already understands how Joselu plays for Real Madrid.

Yes Dortmund are the underdogs but when Real Madrid are in the final then there is no doubt that the champions may only have Real Madrid they have a strong mentality, see how the situation against Bayern Munich yesterday made the atmosphere change in an instant.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on May 09, 2024, 05:53:53 PM
What do you guys think about the odds for the UCL winner:

Real Madrid: x1.30
Borussia Dortmund: x3.50

Looks like oddsmakers are not convinced by the German team eliminating Atletico and PSG and still consider them to be the underdog.
Personally I think it's anyone's game and I think Real will only be slightly better if both teams perform at their 100%.
BvB did quite well in the semi-final and the quarter-final while Real barely made it past Man City and Bayern. You could say that Real had tougher opponents (which is true) but, for what it's worth, Borussia did beat Bayern 2-0 in their last league game.
The mental advantage will definitely be on Dortmund's side.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on May 09, 2024, 10:29:37 PM
It is now currently
PSG 0 - 1 Dortmund
With PSG out of the way, and Mbappe out of the race for the Ballon d'or with this exit from the UCL, who among Vini, Bellingham or Harry kane do you think will win the award?
After PSG and Bayern Munich exited the Champions League, yes, currently, Vini JR and Belingham are the main candidates to win the Baloon d'Or. However, we understand that currently the game is focused on preparing for the final of the big league UCL. This must not interfere with their struggle in the final, because it is for personal gain. Whether Vini JR or Bellingham, both are quite potential. It's just that, maybe their game in the final could have an impact on their rating in the future.

Now, we will be seeing the final of Champions League between Dortmund vs Real Madrid.
I am sure that Real Madrid will be the winner of this UCL this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on May 10, 2024, 03:32:49 AM
What do you guys think about the odds for the UCL winner:

Real Madrid: x1.30
Borussia Dortmund: x3.50

Looks like oddsmakers are not convinced by the German team eliminating Atletico and PSG and still consider them to be the underdog.
Personally I think it's anyone's game and I think Real will only be slightly better if both teams perform at their 100%.
BvB did quite well in the semi-final and the quarter-final while Real barely made it past Man City and Bayern. You could say that Real had tougher opponents (which is true) but, for what it's worth, Borussia did beat Bayern 2-0 in their last league game.
The mental advantage will definitely be on Dortmund's side.
I can see why the odds are hugely in favor of Real Madrid. It's not because bookies don't value what Dortmund did to reach the Finals but it's because they are facing REAL MADRID.

It seems you are also underestimating Real's win over City and Bayern. Have you ever thought that if it was Dortmund who faced City, they would have been eliminated in the earlier stages?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 10, 2024, 10:58:04 AM
What do you guys think about the odds for the UCL winner:

Real Madrid: x1.30
Borussia Dortmund: x3.50

Looks like oddsmakers are not convinced by the German team eliminating Atletico and PSG and still consider them to be the underdog.
Personally I think it's anyone's game and I think Real will only be slightly better if both teams perform at their 100%.
BvB did quite well in the semi-final and the quarter-final while Real barely made it past Man City and Bayern. You could say that Real had tougher opponents (which is true) but, for what it's worth, Borussia did beat Bayern 2-0 in their last league game.
The mental advantage will definitely be on Dortmund's side.
I feel that Real Madrid's mentality will still be superior because Real Madrid is much more experienced in the UCL Final. Even in terms of performance, we can see that Real Madrid is indeed better. So there is no doubt that Real Madrid is the favorite in the UCL Final this season. Dortmund might just be like Inter Milan last season. Where they were ultimately defeated by the superior team, namely Man City. But I don't want to underestimate this team. because I see an advantage that Dortmund has is that they are good at taking advantage of the opportunities they get. So I also won't be surprised if Dortmund wins in the end. But I think that's a very slim possibility.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on May 10, 2024, 12:00:38 PM
I feel that Real Madrid's mentality will still be superior because Real Madrid is much more experienced in the UCL Final. Even in terms of performance, we can see that Real Madrid is indeed better. So there is no doubt that Real Madrid is the favorite in the UCL Final this season. Dortmund might just be like Inter Milan last season. Where they were ultimately defeated by the superior team, namely Man City. But I don't want to underestimate this team. because I see an advantage that Dortmund has is that they are good at taking advantage of the opportunities they get. So I also won't be surprised if Dortmund wins in the end. But I think that's a very slim possibility.

Yep. Real has this particular type of unbreakable spirit when it comes to finals. Vini and Bellingham are unstoppable if they can keep their momentum.
And I think Madrid will win, but It is not expected to be easy
However, it’s one match anything can happen if Dortmund keeps playing well and working together.
Dortmund's spirit may bring some surprises and Reus lifts the cup before leaving
I'm just hoping to see a decent battle.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on May 10, 2024, 02:05:34 PM
I feel that Real Madrid's mentality will still be superior because Real Madrid is much more experienced in the UCL Final. Even in terms of performance, we can see that Real Madrid is indeed better. So there is no doubt that Real Madrid is the favorite in the UCL Final this season. Dortmund might just be like Inter Milan last season. Where they were ultimately defeated by the superior team, namely Man City. But I don't want to underestimate this team. because I see an advantage that Dortmund has is that they are good at taking advantage of the opportunities they get. So I also won't be surprised if Dortmund wins in the end. But I think that's a very slim possibility.

Yep. Real has this particular type of unbreakable spirit when it comes to finals. Vini and Bellingham are unstoppable if they can keep their momentum.
And I think Madrid will win, but It is not expected to be easy
However, it’s one match anything can happen if Dortmund keeps playing well and working together.
Dortmund's spirit may bring some surprises and Reus lifts the cup before leaving
I'm just hoping to see a decent battle.
This is the final match, of course it will not be easy for Real Madrid to win this match, because Borussia Dortmund will also appear with their highest motivation who hope they can win the Champions League title this season.

Both teams will go all out to ensure they can win. However, based on the existing opportunities, Real Madrid is the favorite to win. In fact, it was a very natural thing, because in the quarter-finals when they met Manchester City, many people said that whoever wins that match, they will become champions.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on May 10, 2024, 10:35:32 PM
I thought from the beginning and almost until the end of the game that Real Madrid would lose. But I bet on Real Madrid but I lost because Real Madrid secured the win after going to extra minutes. But I believe that Real Madrid team is really strong whenever they can perform well offensively. Joselu has shown how to take the team to victory in moments, he alone played enough to take Real Madrid to the final.
Many people believed that Real Madrid would win from the start of the match because they were the host team while Bayern Munich was the visiting team.

When Bayern Munich was leading Real Madrid by a goal at the 70 Minutes of play, that's the time when I think, people were having doubts about whether Real Madrid would equalize or win Bayern Munich at the end of the match.

Joselu was substituted in, the second half and scored two goals for Real Madrid was very surprising, because that gave Real Madrid the winning goal that took them to the finals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on May 10, 2024, 10:57:52 PM
I'm just hoping to see a decent battle.
The Real Madrid game against Manchester City was entertaining, and the Real Madrid game against Bayern was entertaining. I expect the same level of entertainment in the finals, as I hope Dortmund will be putting in their very best and also not surrendering to Real Madrid so easily even if they go a goal down early. With Mbappe's move to Real Madrid now almost at completion, as he has formally announced he will not be continuing at PSG, they will have a very good chance of winning it next season too, with Vinicius, Mbappe and Bellingham in one team. If Dortmund win's this one, it will be good.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 11, 2024, 07:05:30 AM
I'm just hoping to see a decent battle.
The Real Madrid game against Manchester City was entertaining, and the Real Madrid game against Bayern was entertaining. I expect the same level of entertainment in the finals, as I hope Dortmund will be putting in their very best and also not surrendering to Real Madrid so easily even if they go a goal down early. With Mbappe's move to Real Madrid now almost at completion, as he has formally announced he will not be continuing at PSG, they will have a very good chance of winning it next season too, with Vinicius, Mbappe and Bellingham in one team. If Dortmund win's this one, it will be good.
Since it is a Final match I have no doubt that it will be a match worth watching and will definitely be very entertaining. Because I'm sure Dortmund will be highly motivated in this match. Because after all this time they were finally able to reach the final again. And I'm sure Dortmund will put up a good fight against Real Madrid. Although Real Madrid might indeed be the favorite.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on May 11, 2024, 04:00:34 PM
Since it is a Final match I have no doubt that it will be a match worth watching and will definitely be very entertaining. Because I'm sure Dortmund will be highly motivated in this match. Because after all this time they were finally able to reach the final again. And I'm sure Dortmund will put up a good fight against Real Madrid. Although Real Madrid might indeed be the favorite.
I hope so, even though many say this is not a balanced match, but I hope Borussia Dortmund can answer with something good for them. Even though they will ultimately lose, their defeat must not come easily, or they must put up a worthy fight.

Real Madrid emerged as favourites, that's something we've seen for a long time. they will probably get the title according to Valverde's jersey number this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Power420 on May 12, 2024, 05:20:03 PM
Dortmund team is working hard to win this trophy, I think this game will be the most competitive game.  Because both teams have participated in hard-fought finals, Real Madrid know how to take the title in their hands, having won the title several times before.  That's why only the team with good performance can win this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on May 12, 2024, 10:28:22 PM
Dortmund team is working hard to win this trophy, I think this game will be the most competitive game.  Because both teams have participated in hard-fought finals, Real Madrid know how to take the title in their hands, having won the title several times before.  That's why only the team with good performance can win this match.
Dortmund really understands that Real Madrid is different from PSG, where Real Madrid has experience in the UCL and they are a very strong and solid club. Dormtund understands this, that's why they have to try even stronger and more significantly than when they played against PSG before. They know this won't be easy, because they have to prepare their best and most suitable strategy to face and beat Real Madrid, that's the hope.

And on the other hand, Real Madrid also has quite big ambitions to motivate all parties to be able to win the Champions League trophy and add to their list of wins. They are also aware that this season, many people underestimate them or think that Real Madrid will not be able to make the UCL final because the composition of their players in the squad is not as significant as before. However, Real Madrid was able to silence it all until they reached this stage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on May 12, 2024, 10:47:28 PM
Dortmund team is working hard to win this trophy, I think this game will be the most competitive game.  Because both teams have participated in hard-fought finals, Real Madrid know how to take the title in their hands, having won the title several times before.  That's why only the team with good performance can win this match.
Dortmund really understands that Real Madrid is different from PSG, where Real Madrid has experience in the UCL and they are a very strong and solid club. Dormtund understands this, that's why they have to try even stronger and more significantly than when they played against PSG before. They know this won't be easy, because they have to prepare their best and most suitable strategy to face and beat Real Madrid, that's the hope.

And on the other hand, Real Madrid also has quite big ambitions to motivate all parties to be able to win the Champions League trophy and add to their list of wins. They are also aware that this season, many people underestimate them or think that Real Madrid will not be able to make the UCL final because the composition of their players in the squad is not as significant as before. However, Real Madrid was able to silence it all until they reached this stage.
From the statistics of both clubs it shows that Real Madrid has the higher chance of winning the Dortmund, because Dortmund might not be able to withstand Real Madrid's pressure, and that will be a big challenge for Dortmund. Dortmund need to know the kind of players that they are playing with and shoukd not relax if they are winning until the final whistle, otherwise, they might end up losing the match just as Bayern did. Madrid are like Leverkusen, they don't give up until the final whistle.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 12, 2024, 11:48:52 PM
Since it is a Final match I have no doubt that it will be a match worth watching and will definitely be very entertaining. Because I'm sure Dortmund will be highly motivated in this match. Because after all this time they were finally able to reach the final again. And I'm sure Dortmund will put up a good fight against Real Madrid. Although Real Madrid might indeed be the favorite.
I hope so, even though many say this is not a balanced match, but I hope Borussia Dortmund can answer with something good for them. Even though they will ultimately lose, their defeat must not come easily, or they must put up a worthy fight.

Real Madrid emerged as favourites, that's something we've seen for a long time. they will probably get the title according to Valverde's jersey number this season.
Well, it's true that all we hope for is that Dortmund can play well and can give Real Madrid a tough fight. Although I also believe that Real Madrid will ultimately succeed in winning this match. Because when Real Madrid makes it to the final it is very rare for them to lose the trophy that season. Because we all know that Real Madrid owns the most titles in the UCL. But I would be surprised if Dortmund win the final. And I'm sure everyone will be surprised too.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on May 14, 2024, 12:19:09 AM
It's going to be an intensive week for Leverkusen: the last league game on Sat 18th, Europa League final on Wed 22nd and the DFB Pokal final on Sat 25th to finish the season off.
They could rest the key players in the league game but there's a risk attached to that. If Leverkusen were to lose to Augsburg and end their games without loss run, that could crush the team spirit just before the EL final.

Atalanta is in a bit tougher spot when it comes to resting time. They play the Copa Italia final against Juventus and then an away league game against Lecce on Saturday. And their 5th place in the league is still not secured, so they have to approach it seriously.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on May 14, 2024, 07:24:30 AM
Well, it's true that all we hope for is that Dortmund can play well and can give Real Madrid a tough fight. Although I also believe that Real Madrid will ultimately succeed in winning this match. Because when Real Madrid makes it to the final it is very rare for them to lose the trophy that season. Because we all know that Real Madrid owns the most titles in the UCL. But I would be surprised if Dortmund win the final. And I'm sure everyone will be surprised too.
I am interested with final match more offensive and Dortmund not playing more defensive, scoring many goals for both team will make final more attractive than Dortmund performance last match against PSG more defensive. Actually all teams can play well as offensive or defensive but when both teams playing more defensive make too boring watching the final match.
Jude Bellingham have good good memorize with Dortmund and seems too emotional for him if can scoring goal in the final match, other player Vinicius Jr will be main problem for Dortmund how his speed can make Dortmund defense difficult for stopping him.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on May 14, 2024, 10:23:06 AM
I'm just hoping to see a decent battle.
The Real Madrid game against Manchester City was entertaining, and the Real Madrid game against Bayern was entertaining. I expect the same level of entertainment in the finals, as I hope Dortmund will be putting in their very best and also not surrendering to Real Madrid so easily even if they go a goal down early. With Mbappe's move to Real Madrid now almost at completion, as he has formally announced he will not be continuing at PSG, they will have a very good chance of winning it next season too, with Vinicius, Mbappe and Bellingham in one team. If Dortmund win's this one, it will be good.

Everything is possible, or it can shock and Dortmund pulls off a miracle.
Dortmund will go to the final without fear, they have nothing to lose.
But I will say,Don't ever celebrate too early against Real Madrid because Real Madrid scares me more than my ex ;D

The two teams have previously met often. Of the 14 meetings, Madrid excelled with 6 wins, 3 defeats, and five draws.
So, This is another Champions League for Real Madrid? I think Yes...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on May 14, 2024, 05:45:49 PM
I'm just hoping to see a decent battle.
The Real Madrid game against Manchester City was entertaining, and the Real Madrid game against Bayern was entertaining. I expect the same level of entertainment in the finals, as I hope Dortmund will be putting in their very best and also not surrendering to Real Madrid so easily even if they go a goal down early. With Mbappe's move to Real Madrid now almost at completion, as he has formally announced he will not be continuing at PSG, they will have a very good chance of winning it next season too, with Vinicius, Mbappe and Bellingham in one team. If Dortmund win's this one, it will be good.

Everything is possible, or it can shock and Dortmund pulls off a miracle.
Dortmund will go to the final without fear, they have nothing to lose.
But I will say,Don't ever celebrate too early against Real Madrid because Real Madrid scares me more than my ex ;D

The two teams have previously met often. Of the 14 meetings, Madrid excelled with 6 wins, 3 defeats, and five draws.
So, This is another Champions League for Real Madrid? I think Yes...
I would not think twice of placing my bet on Real Madrid on the match day, because I see Real Madrid in a better position of winning the league than Dortmund. Real Madrid have quality players and they play quality football more than Dortmund, and for this reason I don't think that we will see any surprises from this match. The expected club will win the league and Dortmund got to the finals by luck in the semifinals, because PSG balls on target was hitting the goal post.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on May 14, 2024, 07:44:36 PM
I hope so, even though many say this is not a balanced match, but I hope Borussia Dortmund can answer with something good for them. Even though they will ultimately lose, their defeat must not come easily, or they must put up a worthy fight.

Real Madrid emerged as favourites, that's something we've seen for a long time. they will probably get the title according to Valverde's jersey number this season.
Well, it's true that all we hope for is that Dortmund can play well and can give Real Madrid a tough fight. Although I also believe that Real Madrid will ultimately succeed in winning this match. Because when Real Madrid makes it to the final it is very rare for them to lose the trophy that season. Because we all know that Real Madrid owns the most titles in the UCL. But I would be surprised if Dortmund win the final. And I'm sure everyone will be surprised too.
It doesn't matter when we finally see that Borussia Dortmund really loses, but their defeat shouldn't happen so easily, or in other words, they have to show a good game that will make the game very interesting.

Winning or losing or something normal in football, there won't just be the word win. But at least there is an interesting spectacle that we can see, no matter who loses. And when they lose, they will lose with satisfaction later because they played well, unlike when they played badly.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Litzki1990 on May 14, 2024, 07:54:51 PM
I'm just hoping to see a decent battle.
The Real Madrid game against Manchester City was entertaining, and the Real Madrid game against Bayern was entertaining. I expect the same level of entertainment in the finals, as I hope Dortmund will be putting in their very best and also not surrendering to Real Madrid so easily even if they go a goal down early. With Mbappe's move to Real Madrid now almost at completion, as he has formally announced he will not be continuing at PSG, they will have a very good chance of winning it next season too, with Vinicius, Mbappe and Bellingham in one team. If Dortmund win's this one, it will be good.
Since it is a Final match I have no doubt that it will be a match worth watching and will definitely be very entertaining. Because I'm sure Dortmund will be highly motivated in this match. Because after all this time they were finally able to reach the final again. And I'm sure Dortmund will put up a good fight against Real Madrid. Although Real Madrid might indeed be the favorite.
Real Madrid seem pretty carefree ahead of the Champions League final and have been seen taking part in various photo shoots online. The celebration they usually do after winning the title is what they're doing now and it's really cool. They have been able to overcome the major challenges that they had for the Champions League right away so the challenge of the final match will not be too difficult for them which is probably why they are in a very cheerful mood. Maybe Real Madrid is going to win the title again in the final match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 14, 2024, 09:21:43 PM
I hope so, even though many say this is not a balanced match, but I hope Borussia Dortmund can answer with something good for them. Even though they will ultimately lose, their defeat must not come easily, or they must put up a worthy fight.

Real Madrid emerged as favourites, that's something we've seen for a long time. they will probably get the title according to Valverde's jersey number this season.
Well, it's true that all we hope for is that Dortmund can play well and can give Real Madrid a tough fight. Although I also believe that Real Madrid will ultimately succeed in winning this match. Because when Real Madrid makes it to the final it is very rare for them to lose the trophy that season. Because we all know that Real Madrid owns the most titles in the UCL. But I would be surprised if Dortmund win the final. And I'm sure everyone will be surprised too.
It doesn't matter when we finally see that Borussia Dortmund really loses, but their defeat shouldn't happen so easily, or in other words, they have to show a good game that will make the game very interesting.

Winning or losing or something normal in football, there won't just be the word win. But at least there is an interesting spectacle that we can see, no matter who loses. And when they lose, they will lose with satisfaction later because they played well, unlike when they played badly.
That's right because it would be very boring if Dortmund lost easily. So we hope that Dortmund can provide good resistance in this match. because after all they have fought well to get to the final. And they must not waste the opportunity to play in the final. Even though in the end they lost, well, that's a normal thing that happens.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Litzki1990 on May 15, 2024, 12:35:34 PM
I'm just hoping to see a decent battle.
The Real Madrid game against Manchester City was entertaining, and the Real Madrid game against Bayern was entertaining. I expect the same level of entertainment in the finals, as I hope Dortmund will be putting in their very best and also not surrendering to Real Madrid so easily even if they go a goal down early. With Mbappe's move to Real Madrid now almost at completion, as he has formally announced he will not be continuing at PSG, they will have a very good chance of winning it next season too, with Vinicius, Mbappe and Bellingham in one team. If Dortmund win's this one, it will be good.
You will never see the kind of competition that Real Madrid did in the two matches against Manchester City and the competition that Real Madrid did in the two matches against Bayern Munich in the finals. Real Madrid's opponents Manchester City and Bayern Munich were strong enough but the opponents of the final match but not that strong, the margin of victory could be bigger. Real Madrid will be very pleased with their final match opponents as they have overcome tough hurdles in the quarter-finals and semi-finals, but in the final they have a relatively easy opponent against whom they are likely to win
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on May 15, 2024, 02:54:28 PM
It doesn't matter when we finally see that Borussia Dortmund really loses, but their defeat shouldn't happen so easily, or in other words, they have to show a good game that will make the game very interesting.

Winning or losing or something normal in football, there won't just be the word win. But at least there is an interesting spectacle that we can see, no matter who loses. And when they lose, they will lose with satisfaction later because they played well, unlike when they played badly.
That's right because it would be very boring if Dortmund lost easily. So we hope that Dortmund can provide good resistance in this match. because after all they have fought well to get to the final. And they must not waste the opportunity to play in the final. Even though in the end they lost, well, that's a normal thing that happens.
This is the final match, which means that the 2 best teams who can survive until the final round will compete, and everyone definitely wants to see their very interesting game that can be demonstrated.

Everyone sees that the end of this season's Champions League will present something they can enjoy with good play from both teams of course. And if they are able, it would actually be better if they succeeded in winning. If that happens then everyone's predictions will be wrong and it will be something unforgettable in my opinion.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on May 15, 2024, 03:45:08 PM
I am interested with final match more offensive and Dortmund not playing more defensive, scoring many goals for both team will make final more attractive than Dortmund performance last match against PSG more defensive. Actually all teams can play well as offensive or defensive but when both teams playing more defensive make too boring watching the final match.
Jude Bellingham have good good memorize with Dortmund and seems too emotional for him if can scoring goal in the final match, other player Vinicius Jr will be main problem for Dortmund how his speed can make Dortmund defense difficult for stopping him.
Real Madrid must dominate the match, they will initiate to attack Dortmund. That will make Dortmund to play more defensive, they will focus on their defense firstly. I'm not sure if Dortmund will play more offensive against Real Madrid, they must know it is not a good idea. However, it is not about which team to play offensive or defensive. But it is about which team to play more effectively.

Well, Real Madrid has great stats when they are playing in the final of UCL. They almost win all the final UCL, they only got a failure in few matches only. But note that Real Madrid is already a long time to fail in the final UCL.

Anyway, it is true that this will be a dramatic match for Bellingham. However, I believe Bellingham will show everyone that he is better in Real Madrid. I assume Bellingham will be the key player of Real Madrid to defeat Dortmund in the final UCL.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on May 15, 2024, 05:08:11 PM
I am interested with final match more offensive and Dortmund not playing more defensive, scoring many goals for both team will make final more attractive than Dortmund performance last match against PSG more defensive. Actually all teams can play well as offensive or defensive but when both teams playing more defensive make too boring watching the final match.
Jude Bellingham have good good memorize with Dortmund and seems too emotional for him if can scoring goal in the final match, other player Vinicius Jr will be main problem for Dortmund how his speed can make Dortmund defense difficult for stopping him.
Real Madrid must dominate the match, they will initiate to attack Dortmund. That will make Dortmund to play more defensive, they will focus on their defense firstly. I'm not sure if Dortmund will play more offensive against Real Madrid, they must know it is not a good idea. However, it is not about which team to play offensive or defensive. But it is about which team to play more effectively.

Well, Real Madrid has great stats when they are playing in the final of UCL. They almost win all the final UCL, they only got a failure in few matches only. But note that Real Madrid is already a long time to fail in the final UCL.

Anyway, it is true that this will be a dramatic match for Bellingham. However, I believe Bellingham will show everyone that he is better in Real Madrid. I assume Bellingham will be the key player of Real Madrid to defeat Dortmund in the final UCL.

Dortmund all the way, but I know Real Madrid are going to win it :)
Just one more good game for Madrid and they are winning the 15th UCL
I don't want to underestimate Dortmund but Madrid has players and coaches who are all top-class, so winning the UCL is something they deserve.
Jude Bellingham is a good player and I hope he scores goals in the final and will probably win the Balon d'Or.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on May 15, 2024, 05:26:36 PM
Dortmund all the way, but I know Real Madrid are going to win it :)
Just one more good game for Madrid and they are winning the 15th UCL
I don't want to underestimate Dortmund but Madrid has players and coaches who are all top-class, so winning the UCL is something they deserve.
Jude Bellingham is a good player and I hope he scores goals in the final and will probably win the Balon d'Or.

You guys never wanted Real Madrid to make it this far from the beginning ;D but they manage to maneuver to the final, it's funny how PSG, Barcelona, Manchester City, and Bayern Munich fans has form a coalition to see Real Madrid lose but it's crystal clear that Real Madrid has bag this Champions League to their trophy to make it 15 trophy.

The way Anceloti is trying to fix Cortois in the final match, I'm not too cool with it but if they can be able to reach this far with just a single loss for the season, then I'm going to respect his decision for starting Courtois.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 16, 2024, 04:16:08 PM
It doesn't matter when we finally see that Borussia Dortmund really loses, but their defeat shouldn't happen so easily, or in other words, they have to show a good game that will make the game very interesting.

Winning or losing or something normal in football, there won't just be the word win. But at least there is an interesting spectacle that we can see, no matter who loses. And when they lose, they will lose with satisfaction later because they played well, unlike when they played badly.
That's right because it would be very boring if Dortmund lost easily. So we hope that Dortmund can provide good resistance in this match. because after all they have fought well to get to the final. And they must not waste the opportunity to play in the final. Even though in the end they lost, well, that's a normal thing that happens.
This is the final match, which means that the 2 best teams who can survive until the final round will compete, and everyone definitely wants to see their very interesting game that can be demonstrated.

Everyone sees that the end of this season's Champions League will present something they can enjoy with good play from both teams of course. And if they are able, it would actually be better if they succeeded in winning. If that happens then everyone's predictions will be wrong and it will be something unforgettable in my opinion.
Currently, the majority of people are convinced of Real Madrid's superiority in the final match. But it would be very surprising if Dortmund managed to win. then it will be a moment or event that is difficult to forget. because from the start Dortmund didn't get any attention at all. Even since the group stage, we all know that Dortmund is not talked about much at all. But now Dortmund has made it to the final. And that was also something that surprised everyone.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on May 16, 2024, 09:04:50 PM
Currently, the majority of people are convinced of Real Madrid's superiority in the final match. But it would be very surprising if Dortmund managed to win. then it will be a moment or event that is difficult to forget. because from the start Dortmund didn't get any attention at all. Even since the group stage, we all know that Dortmund is not talked about much at all. But now Dortmund has made it to the final. And that was also something that surprised everyone.
The finals will not be an easy game for Real Madrid; Dortmund will give it all they have, not just because of the financial gain that winning the trophy has, but for the record. If it is just for the finances, Dortmund will still earn a very good amount of money even higher than what they stand to win, from Real Madrid if Bellingham lifts the champions league trophy according to their agreement.


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Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on May 17, 2024, 06:09:05 PM
This is the final match, which means that the 2 best teams who can survive until the final round will compete, and everyone definitely wants to see their very interesting game that can be demonstrated.

Everyone sees that the end of this season's Champions League will present something they can enjoy with good play from both teams of course. And if they are able, it would actually be better if they succeeded in winning. If that happens then everyone's predictions will be wrong and it will be something unforgettable in my opinion.
Currently, the majority of people are convinced of Real Madrid's superiority in the final match. But it would be very surprising if Dortmund managed to win. then it will be a moment or event that is difficult to forget. because from the start Dortmund didn't get any attention at all. Even since the group stage, we all know that Dortmund is not talked about much at all. But now Dortmund has made it to the final. And that was also something that surprised everyone.
There is no doubt that Real Madrid has been trusted by many people to become champions again this season. Especially when they managed to beat Manchester City. The match was like determining who would be the champion, I mean whoever won the match was believed to be the champion, and Real Madrid managed to win the match well.

Indeed, when Real Madrid met Manchester City in the quarter-finals, many said it was a too early final, but the draw results said so.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 17, 2024, 08:36:37 PM
This is the final match, which means that the 2 best teams who can survive until the final round will compete, and everyone definitely wants to see their very interesting game that can be demonstrated.

Everyone sees that the end of this season's Champions League will present something they can enjoy with good play from both teams of course. And if they are able, it would actually be better if they succeeded in winning. If that happens then everyone's predictions will be wrong and it will be something unforgettable in my opinion.
Currently, the majority of people are convinced of Real Madrid's superiority in the final match. But it would be very surprising if Dortmund managed to win. then it will be a moment or event that is difficult to forget. because from the start Dortmund didn't get any attention at all. Even since the group stage, we all know that Dortmund is not talked about much at all. But now Dortmund has made it to the final. And that was also something that surprised everyone.
There is no doubt that Real Madrid has been trusted by many people to become champions again this season. Especially when they managed to beat Manchester City. The match was like determining who would be the champion, I mean whoever won the match was believed to be the champion, and Real Madrid managed to win the match well.

Indeed, when Real Madrid met Manchester City in the quarter-finals, many said it was a too early final, but the draw results said so.
It's true that the Real Madrid vs Man City match is like an early final. Because the two teams should have met in the final. but unfortunately the match schedule required them to meet earlier. And Madrid won quite well. And it is natural that many are optimistic that Real Madrid will win the title this season. Because Real Madrid has succeeded in beating Man City, which is also the most favorite team this season and also won last season. but now everyone is curious about what Dortmund will do to face Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on May 17, 2024, 10:34:09 PM
There is no doubt that Real Madrid has been trusted by many people to become champions again this season. Especially when they managed to beat Manchester City. The match was like determining who would be the champion, I mean whoever won the match was believed to be the champion, and Real Madrid managed to win the match well.
Yes, because compared to Dortmund, Real Madrid has much more experience in UCL finals, in fact this seems like Dortmund's first final in the UCL, right? Apart from that, so far, Real Madrid's performance is also considered much better and stronger than Dortmund's, not only in the UCL but also in their respective domestic leagues. We no longer doubt how Real Madrid can do it, especially with their coach who is truly excellent, there is no doubt that Ancelotti is very smart in making decisions that are sometimes quite different and surprising, but they work.

It just doesn't mean we underestimate Dortmund. Because they also have high motivation to win the match and take the UCL trophy. They may seem underestimated for some particular reasons when looking at their poor performance in the Bundesliga, but in the UCL, they look quite different from their abilities so far.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on May 18, 2024, 05:28:13 PM
There is no doubt that Real Madrid has been trusted by many people to become champions again this season. Especially when they managed to beat Manchester City. The match was like determining who would be the champion, I mean whoever won the match was believed to be the champion, and Real Madrid managed to win the match well.

Indeed, when Real Madrid met Manchester City in the quarter-finals, many said it was a too early final, but the draw results said so.
It's true that the Real Madrid vs Man City match is like an early final. Because the two teams should have met in the final. but unfortunately the match schedule required them to meet earlier. And Madrid won quite well. And it is natural that many are optimistic that Real Madrid will win the title this season. Because Real Madrid has succeeded in beating Man City, which is also the most favorite team this season and also won last season. but now everyone is curious about what Dortmund will do to face Real Madrid.
I was also one of the people who actually wanted to see them meet in the final, and to be honest I was a little disappointed when I saw they had to meet in the quarter-finals, because it buried my hopes of seeing them in the final.

But apart from all that, I am also quite satisfied with their performance in the quarter-finals, because they showed an interesting game, in the first leg they drew and in the second leg they also had to finish the match in the penalty shootout round to determine who would advance. to the next round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on May 18, 2024, 06:19:40 PM
It's true that the Real Madrid vs Man City match is like an early final. Because the two teams should have met in the final. but unfortunately the match schedule required them to meet earlier. And Madrid won quite well. And it is natural that many are optimistic that Real Madrid will win the title this season. Because Real Madrid has succeeded in beating Man City, which is also the most favorite team this season and also won last season. but now everyone is curious about what Dortmund will do to face Real Madrid.
Its ideal final between Real Madrid vs Manchester City, but drawing format since quarter final right now difficult to predict with top team will face in the final match because most of them have kicked out since quarter final round. Madrid have defeated two top teams from Man City in quarter final and Bayern Munich in semifinal, I think has learned more how defeated Bundesliga team make Madrid get bigger chance for winning champion league this season.

Madrid is more favorable team but Dortmund always make unpredictable result by eliminating PSG in the semifinal match, I see not easy to predict with Madrid will win against Dortmund.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on May 18, 2024, 09:31:09 PM
It's true that the Real Madrid vs Man City match is like an early final. Because the two teams should have met in the final. but unfortunately the match schedule required them to meet earlier. And Madrid won quite well. And it is natural that many are optimistic that Real Madrid will win the title this season. Because Real Madrid has succeeded in beating Man City, which is also the most favorite team this season and also won last season. but now everyone is curious about what Dortmund will do to face Real Madrid.
Its ideal final between Real Madrid vs Manchester City, but drawing format since quarter final right now difficult to predict with top team will face in the final match because most of them have kicked out since quarter final round. Madrid have defeated two top teams from Man City in quarter final and Bayern Munich in semifinal, I think has learned more how defeated Bundesliga team make Madrid get bigger chance for winning champion league this season.

Madrid is more favorable team but Dortmund always make unpredictable result by eliminating PSG in the semifinal match, I see not easy to predict with Madrid will win against Dortmund.
It's happened so what we hoped for before didn't materialize but for next season we can expect them to meet again in the semifinals or finals.

But for me the final now is no less interesting even though it's with Dortmund who in fact in the Bundesliga are also less than optimal but BVB are able to reach the final so that's something extraordinary, right?
We expect the final to be competitive even if at the end of the day it comes down to Real Madrid winning.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on May 18, 2024, 10:05:52 PM
It's true that the Real Madrid vs Man City match is like an early final. Because the two teams should have met in the final. but unfortunately the match schedule required them to meet earlier. And Madrid won quite well. And it is natural that many are optimistic that Real Madrid will win the title this season. Because Real Madrid has succeeded in beating Man City, which is also the most favorite team this season and also won last season. but now everyone is curious about what Dortmund will do to face Real Madrid.
Its ideal final between Real Madrid vs Manchester City, but drawing format since quarter final right now difficult to predict with top team will face in the final match because most of them have kicked out since quarter final round. Madrid have defeated two top teams from Man City in quarter final and Bayern Munich in semifinal, I think has learned more how defeated Bundesliga team make Madrid get bigger chance for winning champion league this season.

Madrid is more favorable team but Dortmund always make unpredictable result by eliminating PSG in the semifinal match, I see not easy to predict with Madrid will win against Dortmund.
There is nothing that Dortmund will play on that match day that they will be able to outperform Real Madrid and win the league. This is because I don't think that Dortmund will be able to lock their defense till 90 minutes without Real Madrid scoring. All Real Madrid frontliners both first eleven and on bench are deadly strikers, and they are ever ready to net the post.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on May 19, 2024, 03:35:01 PM
There is nothing that Dortmund will play on that match day that they will be able to outperform Real Madrid and win the league. This is because I don't think that Dortmund will be able to lock their defense till 90 minutes without Real Madrid scoring. All Real Madrid frontliners both first eleven and on bench are deadly strikers, and they are ever ready to net the post.
This is also one of the advantages that Real Madrid has, because they have good squad depth, so that their main players and substitute players can do the same job when given the opportunity.

Squad depth is very important for a team, because they can rotate if something is not good for them. and also coaches can have many strategies based on the abilities of the players they have. Carlo Ancelotti can change his strategy at any time as needed, and don't forget that they have players who can be the difference when given the opportunity to play.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Power420 on May 19, 2024, 05:33:34 PM
The Real Madrid team can attack any team at any time with ease, and they have beaten many strong teams to enter the final.  Real Madrid team players are more experienced and they are more aggressive against stronger teams.  But in this case, Borussia Dortmund came from the opposite side, they also faced the toughest matches and entered the final.  But in this case I will speak for the Real Madrid team because they are the strongest this season and they have won more cups.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 20, 2024, 06:24:01 PM
There is no doubt that Real Madrid has been trusted by many people to become champions again this season. Especially when they managed to beat Manchester City. The match was like determining who would be the champion, I mean whoever won the match was believed to be the champion, and Real Madrid managed to win the match well.

Indeed, when Real Madrid met Manchester City in the quarter-finals, many said it was a too early final, but the draw results said so.
It's true that the Real Madrid vs Man City match is like an early final. Because the two teams should have met in the final. but unfortunately the match schedule required them to meet earlier. And Madrid won quite well. And it is natural that many are optimistic that Real Madrid will win the title this season. Because Real Madrid has succeeded in beating Man City, which is also the most favorite team this season and also won last season. but now everyone is curious about what Dortmund will do to face Real Madrid.
I was also one of the people who actually wanted to see them meet in the final, and to be honest I was a little disappointed when I saw they had to meet in the quarter-finals, because it buried my hopes of seeing them in the final.

But apart from all that, I am also quite satisfied with their performance in the quarter-finals, because they showed an interesting game, in the first leg they drew and in the second leg they also had to finish the match in the penalty shootout round to determine who would advance. to the next round.
And in the quarter-final match, everyone was disappointed because they had to meet earlier. But in the end he felt satisfied with the performance of the two teams who played very fiercely at that time.

Now I hope that the real final match between Real Madrid vs Dortmund can be as lively as when Man City played against Real Madrid in the quarter-finals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on May 20, 2024, 11:40:36 PM
Now I hope that the real final match between Real Madrid vs Dortmund can be as lively as when Man City played against Real Madrid in the quarter-finals.
I don't anticipate the finals of UEFA to be as lively as thought. The finals are going to be a tough one and it will come with back-and-forth aggressiveness attacks that Real Madrid and Dortmund will give each other space to dominate the match more than the other. It will be the team that the God of soccer is for, should have the better play and win the match because the finals of a league match is taken very seriously
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on May 20, 2024, 11:53:05 PM
Now I hope that the real final match between Real Madrid vs Dortmund can be as lively as when Man City played against Real Madrid in the quarter-finals.
I don't anticipate the finals of UEFA to be as lively as thought. The finals are going to be a tough one and it will come with back-and-forth aggressiveness attacks that Real Madrid and Dortmund will give each other space to dominate the match more than the other. It will be the team that the God of soccer is for, should have the better play and win the match because the finals of a league match is taken very seriously
The match shoukd be in favor of Real Madrid even though Dortmund might be difficult because they have a good defense. Real Madrid will look for a way to breakthrough Dortmund defense to find the back of the net. It will be a surprise to a lot of people if Dortmund win the champions league and a lot of people will lose their bet. Real Madrid gat what it takes to win this finals than Dortmund.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on May 21, 2024, 12:31:54 AM
When it comes to finals, it is not that easy to really discredit any team, so I am sure that it is going to be still a very entertaining game. I do not remember many finals where the winner got it by many goals. Last four years has been 1-0 results in a row, I think since the title is so important and the consequences are so profitable that any team who scores, just parks the bus on an epic level no matter how good they are. The last game that had more than 2 goal margins was in 16-17 (once again Madrid) so it is quite clear that we are talking about possibly just having a game with very low amount of goals and close all game long.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on May 21, 2024, 05:01:40 AM
Left two weeks later before the final match of Champion League between Dortmund vs Real Madrid, Dortmund have played all domestic league match last week and getting almost two week recovery time for facing Madrid.
Difference with La Liga and Real Madrid still has one match left against Real Betis on next week before facing Dortmund in the final six days later. Its advantage moment for Dortmund has more time get recovery than Madrid but Madrid will get advantage of physical condition behind Dortmund without match in two week left before the final match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 21, 2024, 10:04:28 AM
Now I hope that the real final match between Real Madrid vs Dortmund can be as lively as when Man City played against Real Madrid in the quarter-finals.
I don't anticipate the finals of UEFA to be as lively as thought. The finals are going to be a tough one and it will come with back-and-forth aggressiveness attacks that Real Madrid and Dortmund will give each other space to dominate the match more than the other. It will be the team that the God of soccer is for, should have the better play and win the match because the finals of a league match is taken very seriously
So true. It will definitely be a very fierce match. Even Dortmund, who are not actually favorites, might surprise us. because they will definitely prepare everything to perform better than usual. Dortmund also has more rest time. But Real Madrid is now also preparing. Even in the last match in Laliga I saw Real Madrid playing more second-string players and giving rest to the main players, and that was definitely in preparation for the UCL Final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 21, 2024, 10:24:10 PM
Left two weeks later before the final match of Champion League between Dortmund vs Real Madrid, Dortmund have played all domestic league match last week and getting almost two week recovery time for facing Madrid.
Difference with La Liga and Real Madrid still has one match left against Real Betis on next week before facing Dortmund in the final six days later. Its advantage moment for Dortmund has more time get recovery than Madrid but Madrid will get advantage of physical condition behind Dortmund without match in two week left before the final match.


Well, the advantage is that it doesn't matter if Madrid wins the games or not, they are already champions, it is because they must meet the date, but personally Ancelotti could afford to put the entire team as substitutes to play, and the players starters who are actually the ones who make up the team to face Dortmund are having a very hard, strong training because they want to secure the championship, the physical condition of Madrid right now in these members of the starting team must be very high, because it is already a fact that things with this confrontation will be on another level, there is little left, and I know that many are eager for Saturday to arrive.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on May 22, 2024, 05:38:37 PM
I was also one of the people who actually wanted to see them meet in the final, and to be honest I was a little disappointed when I saw they had to meet in the quarter-finals, because it buried my hopes of seeing them in the final.

But apart from all that, I am also quite satisfied with their performance in the quarter-finals, because they showed an interesting game, in the first leg they drew and in the second leg they also had to finish the match in the penalty shootout round to determine who would advance. to the next round.
And in the quarter-final match, everyone was disappointed because they had to meet earlier. But in the end he felt satisfied with the performance of the two teams who played very fiercely at that time.

Now I hope that the real final match between Real Madrid vs Dortmund can be as lively as when Man City played against Real Madrid in the quarter-finals.
Yes, that will be our hope, we definitely want to see an extraordinary final match that can be shown by these two teams, both Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund.

Even though some people doubt Borussia Dortmund because they think this is not an ideal match, I also hope that they will be able to prove that they can also provide very fierce competition to Real Madrid. Nothing is impossible, as long as they still have a chance, then hope is still there.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on May 23, 2024, 04:57:48 PM
Even though some people doubt Borussia Dortmund because they think this is not an ideal match, I also hope that they will be able to prove that they can also provide very fierce competition to Real Madrid. Nothing is impossible, as long as they still have a chance, then hope is still there.
Just in the same manner that Atalanta pulled off a surprise against the very in-form Xabi Alonso's side, Dortmund can do the same against Real Madrid. The Europa Finals brought people to that realization. Atalanta played a very strategic football game yesterday, and as soon as they pressed and made sure to score the first goal, they did not just sit back and allow Leverkusen to come and attack them; they maintained their pressure and consistency throughout the game even when they were two goals up.

If Dortmund press and get the first goal in the game, it can be a problem to Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on May 23, 2024, 05:07:49 PM
I don't anticipate the finals of UEFA to be as lively as thought. The finals are going to be a tough one and it will come with back-and-forth aggressiveness attacks that Real Madrid and Dortmund will give each other space to dominate the match more than the other. It will be the team that the God of soccer is for, should have the better play and win the match because the finals of a league match is taken very seriously

Looking at how Europa League ended yesterday, who would have thought that Atlanta would lead with goals yesterday but they made history against Bayern Leverkusen that were unbeaten this season only to conceded 3 good goals from Ademola yesterday, Leverkusen didn't just lost, the conceded historical goals in the history of European leagues with a hatrick.

Real Madrid are good but they need to cautious of Dortmund, they are equally good as well and should not be joke with, they can pull any hard game for them especially that they are playing final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on May 23, 2024, 07:46:15 PM

Real Madrid are good but they need to cautious of Dortmund, they are equally good as well and should not be joke with, they can pull any hard game for them especially that they are playing final.

Of course, underestimating the opponent will lead to disaster.
This is a pretty intense final, Both teams want it and I never expected less.
Real Madrid has creativity when they have the ball, there is hard work, sacrifice, and concentration, but creativity is fundamental. Especially in Real Madrid's players, they have so much talent.
And Don Carlo is not Xabi. His coaching style has survived the test of time.
He's a great coach, and his management style is still relevant in football.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on May 23, 2024, 09:34:27 PM
Looking at how Europa League ended yesterday, who would have thought that Atlanta would lead with goals yesterday but they made history against Bayern Leverkusen that were unbeaten this season only to conceded 3 good goals from Ademola yesterday, Leverkusen didn't just lost, the conceded historical goals in the history of European leagues with a hatrick.

Real Madrid are good but they need to cautious of Dortmund, they are equally good as well and should not be joke with, they can pull any hard game for them especially that they are playing final.
I think it is because Xabi Alonso seemed like a bit underestimate Atalanta. He didn't choose a proper starting lineup, he didn't use the tactic to play offensively but rather defensively since the early of he match. I think this won't happen with Ancelotti, he must know how to choose the right lineup for the final match. Ancelotti and Real Madrid are very experienced in the final UCL, they won't make something that will harm them. So, I'm not worried to favor Real Madrid to be the champion. Although there is a chance for Dortmund, I still believe Real Madrid won't make the same mistake like Leverkusen.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on May 23, 2024, 09:41:50 PM
Looking at how Europa League ended yesterday, who would have thought that Atlanta would lead with goals yesterday but they made history against Bayern Leverkusen that were unbeaten this season only to conceded 3 good goals from Ademola yesterday, Leverkusen didn't just lost, the conceded historical goals in the history of European leagues with a hatrick.

Real Madrid are good but they need to cautious of Dortmund, they are equally good as well and should not be joke with, they can pull any hard game for them especially that they are playing final.
I think it is because Xabi Alonso seemed like a bit underestimate Atalanta. He didn't choose a proper starting lineup, he didn't use the tactic to play offensively but rather defensively since the early of he match. I think this won't happen with Ancelotti, he must know how to choose the right lineup for the final match. Ancelotti and Real Madrid are very experienced in the final UCL, they won't make something that will harm them. So, I'm not worried to favor Real Madrid to be the champion. Although there is a chance for Dortmund, I still believe Real Madrid won't make the same mistake like Leverkusen.
That's why Real Madrid's mentality is unquestionable because they've been in the final so many times that they've won 14 trophies, meaning they know what to do and they're unlikely to make the same mistake as Leverkusen.

The Real Madrid players have been rested for a long time in preparation for the final with BVB some of the players are also mature so I here will not doubt Real Madrid to lose even though BVB will fight Real Madrid's defense but so far they can be consistent.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 24, 2024, 10:07:38 AM
I was also one of the people who actually wanted to see them meet in the final, and to be honest I was a little disappointed when I saw they had to meet in the quarter-finals, because it buried my hopes of seeing them in the final.

But apart from all that, I am also quite satisfied with their performance in the quarter-finals, because they showed an interesting game, in the first leg they drew and in the second leg they also had to finish the match in the penalty shootout round to determine who would advance. to the next round.
And in the quarter-final match, everyone was disappointed because they had to meet earlier. But in the end he felt satisfied with the performance of the two teams who played very fiercely at that time.

Now I hope that the real final match between Real Madrid vs Dortmund can be as lively as when Man City played against Real Madrid in the quarter-finals.
Yes, that will be our hope, we definitely want to see an extraordinary final match that can be shown by these two teams, both Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund.

Even though some people doubt Borussia Dortmund because they think this is not an ideal match, I also hope that they will be able to prove that they can also provide very fierce competition to Real Madrid. Nothing is impossible, as long as they still have a chance, then hope is still there.
But now it looks like Dortmund will find greater motivation after seeing Atalanta win in the European League Final. Atalanta managed to beat Leverkusen, which was favored by almost everyone. And Atalanta won and surprised everyone.

Now Dortmund will definitely be motivated to do the same. But even so, Real Madrid is on a different level. But yeah anything is still possible. Surprises in football are what always make things more interesting. So it is not impossible if surprises occur in the UCL, just like in the European League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on May 24, 2024, 12:13:21 PM
But now it looks like Dortmund will find greater motivation after seeing Atalanta win in the European League Final. Atalanta managed to beat Leverkusen, which was favored by almost everyone. And Atalanta won and surprised everyone.

Now Dortmund will definitely be motivated to do the same. But even so, Real Madrid is on a different level. But yeah anything is still possible. Surprises in football are what always make things more interesting. So it is not impossible if surprises occur in the UCL, just like in the European League.
No doubt, Dortmund get more motivate after looking the impossible possibility Atalanta success defeating favorite team Bayern Leverkusen in Europe League final match. I think Dortmund has the same motivate for defeating Real Madrid in the final and win the impossible thing of Champion League trophy.
In other side, Real Madrid must be careful and playing more aggressive on the first minutes how to win the final match and won't loss great opportunity such as Bayern Leverkusen have been favorite team but unbelievable success defeating by not favorite team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Power420 on May 24, 2024, 01:37:29 PM
The Dortmund team is the strongest in this match, as they have worked hard to reach the final match.  But Real Madrid have been performing well throughout the season and have beaten many strong teams. Whenever you notice the Real Madrid team wins by a wide margin with only the Manchester City team winning on penalties.  But also they have performed well against other teams so I think they will do well in the finals.  Because any team can perform aggressively at any time to win the title.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on May 24, 2024, 04:57:19 PM
The Dortmund team is the strongest in this match, as they have worked hard to reach the final match.  But Real Madrid have been performing well throughout the season and have beaten many strong teams. Whenever you notice the Real Madrid team wins by a wide margin with only the Manchester City team winning on penalties.  But also they have performed well against other teams so I think they will do well in the finals.  Because any team can perform aggressively at any time to win the title.
It is the club that will be able to outperform the other with their own strategy that will win the match, because what I have come to understand this season is that it is not by being strong but also smartness from the coach side matters a lot. Strategy is very essential in football, because you might have all the best players but a club with a smart strategy to overpower yours will win the game. Real Madrid is very strong with an experienced coach in this league and on final matches, so I believe that should be a big advantage to them. On the other hand Dortmund might come up with their own football pattern that will not be in favor to Madrid and if they don't find a way out and come up with something new very fast, it will be a problem to Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on May 24, 2024, 06:41:29 PM
Yes, that will be our hope, we definitely want to see an extraordinary final match that can be shown by these two teams, both Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund.

Even though some people doubt Borussia Dortmund because they think this is not an ideal match, I also hope that they will be able to prove that they can also provide very fierce competition to Real Madrid. Nothing is impossible, as long as they still have a chance, then hope is still there.
But now it looks like Dortmund will find greater motivation after seeing Atalanta win in the European League Final. Atalanta managed to beat Leverkusen, which was favored by almost everyone. And Atalanta won and surprised everyone.

Now Dortmund will definitely be motivated to do the same. But even so, Real Madrid is on a different level. But yeah anything is still possible. Surprises in football are what always make things more interesting. So it is not impossible if surprises occur in the UCL, just like in the European League.
Yes, that can be a motivation for them, if Atalanta can surprise them, of course they can too. However, the difference is that some succeed and some fail, and we don't know whether they will succeed in providing that surprise or not.

Now that the opportunity is still there, they must ensure that they are ready for this match. They don't have to think about anything, because it will be a burden for them, they can play freely so they can carry out the strategy given by the coach as well as possible.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on May 24, 2024, 07:17:13 PM
The Dortmund team is the strongest in this match, as they have worked hard to reach the final match.  But Real Madrid have been performing well throughout the season and have beaten many strong teams. Whenever you notice the Real Madrid team wins by a wide margin with only the Manchester City team winning on penalties.  But also they have performed well against other teams so I think they will do well in the finals.  Because any team can perform aggressively at any time to win the title.

The UEFA Champions League final is a big match and this is the last dance to be one of the best, a final full of respect and admiration. And London will be hit by a football fever like never before.
If Dortmund wins against  Madrid, it will be a dream coming true and Dortmund players will take an example from Atalanta, that's how it is done against the favorite teams.
But Real Madrid is incredible, Even when we think they’re not that strong they still somehow win the Champions League.
So I will bet on Madrid, Championship 15 is coming.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Power420 on May 24, 2024, 07:31:21 PM
I bet for real madrid team because i believe real our team will definitely win this match.  In the few games that Real Madrid have played against Burussia Dortmund in the past, Real Madrid have won most of the matches and the margin of the game has been wide.  That's why I am confident that Real Madrid team will definitely win this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on May 24, 2024, 08:23:29 PM
Yes, that can be a motivation for them, if Atalanta can surprise them, of course they can too. However, the difference is that some succeed and some fail, and we don't know whether they will succeed in providing that surprise or not.

Now that the opportunity is still there, they must ensure that they are ready for this match. They don't have to think about anything, because it will be a burden for them, they can play freely so they can carry out the strategy given by the coach as well as possible.

Dortmund are different in this situation, the way Atalanta played Bayern Leverkusen, you will think they weren't ready because there defenders were looking like guys that ate heavy food, Xabi might have his reasons for not making substitution for those guys but they look weak, heavy and lose because when player score a goal for the first time. You need to make a quick adjustments without compromising the where the rest of the players are protecting yet he never did anything about them.

I'm not sure if Dortmund will stand for the same ginger but Real Madrid will do more than what Atalanta played against Leverkusen as winning this is a going to be a history in Spain, 15 Champions League in the history of of European football.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on May 24, 2024, 08:47:51 PM
I'm not sure if Dortmund will stand for the same ginger but Real Madrid will do more than what Atalanta played against Leverkusen as winning this is a going to be a history in Spain, 15 Champions League in the history of of European football.
Indeed Dortmund has motivate after watching the unpredictable winner in Europe League I don't think easy for defeating Real Madrid with solid defense performance in this season. Difficult how to stop faster counter attack from Real Madrid had most effective when getting attempt for scoring goals. But Dortmund had advantage after Real Madrid holding midfielder Aurélien Tchouaméni will out in Champion League final after getting injury.
Dortmund can take advantage with lack of holding midfielder for Real Madrid and must focus how Madrid can scoring goals at late minutes.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on May 24, 2024, 10:58:14 PM
I bet for real madrid team because i believe real our team will definitely win this match.  In the few games that Real Madrid have played against Burussia Dortmund in the past, Real Madrid have won most of the matches and the margin of the game has been wide.  That's why I am confident that Real Madrid team will definitely win this match.
There will be more people favoring Real Madrid because this team will not lose in theory.
But anything can happen in the final and I wouldn't underestimate Dortmund but I wouldn't bet on Dortmund even if the odds are very tempting because the win ratio is still low compared to Real Madrid.

Actually, the scenario could be that the match ends in a draw until the 90th minute of normal time, but in the end Real Madrid will still win.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on May 25, 2024, 08:05:31 PM
Yes, that can be a motivation for them, if Atalanta can surprise them, of course they can too. However, the difference is that some succeed and some fail, and we don't know whether they will succeed in providing that surprise or not.

Now that the opportunity is still there, they must ensure that they are ready for this match. They don't have to think about anything, because it will be a burden for them, they can play freely so they can carry out the strategy given by the coach as well as possible.

Dortmund are different in this situation, the way Atalanta played Bayern Leverkusen, you will think they weren't ready because there defenders were looking like guys that ate heavy food, Xabi might have his reasons for not making substitution for those guys but they look weak, heavy and lose because when player score a goal for the first time. You need to make a quick adjustments without compromising the where the rest of the players are protecting yet he never did anything about them.

I'm not sure if Dortmund will stand for the same ginger but Real Madrid will do more than what Atalanta played against Leverkusen as winning this is a going to be a history in Spain, 15 Champions League in the history of of European football.
Of course Real Madrid will do everything they can to win this match, because winning is something they must get, and I also see that the motivation of the players is very high now.

The Real Madrid players are very enthusiastic about winning their 15th title and that is a high mentality that every Real Madrid player has. So they will ensure that Borussia Dortmund will not become Atalanta v2 in European competitions.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on May 25, 2024, 11:48:45 PM
There will be more people favoring Real Madrid because this team will not lose in theory.
But anything can happen in the final and I wouldn't underestimate Dortmund but I wouldn't bet on Dortmund even if the odds are very tempting because the win ratio is still low compared to Real Madrid.
Real Madrid can be superior in theory, but it doesn't guarantee anything. Dortmund isn't a weak team, Real Madrid must be more careful to prepare the strategy. Dortmund defense is quite strong, this is one of the key of their success in UCL this year. If Real Madrid players feel frustrated, they can be easier to beat with a counter-attack strategy. I hope Real Madrid players to do their best and they can keep good motivation in playing. However, I also still believe that Real Madrid can do it.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Power420 on May 26, 2024, 03:58:41 PM
And just a few days very soon, the game will be played with the team Real Madrid vs. Borussia Dortmund.  Both the teams are strong in this game as both the teams beat very strong teams to enter the finals. The best performance of this season is Real Madrid as they always perform at their best, as this match will see both teams trying hard to win the cup. Because it is normal for them to be aggressive at any time when they come to the final match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on May 26, 2024, 08:57:16 PM
And just a few days very soon, the game will be played with the team Real Madrid vs. Borussia Dortmund.  Both the teams are strong in this game as both the teams beat very strong teams to enter the finals. The best performance of this season is Real Madrid as they always perform at their best, as this match will see both teams trying hard to win the cup. Because it is normal for them to be aggressive at any time when they come to the final match.
I can't wait to see the match, but for now I have to be patient because the match will take place next month, there is at least a week left.

Both teams are also preparing for this final match. Real Madrid will be the favourites, that is normal. However, Borussia Dortmund are also not playing to lose, they will definitely try their best to play well in this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on May 26, 2024, 10:23:58 PM
There will be more people favoring Real Madrid because this team will not lose in theory.
But anything can happen in the final and I wouldn't underestimate Dortmund but I wouldn't bet on Dortmund even if the odds are very tempting because the win ratio is still low compared to Real Madrid.
Real Madrid can be superior in theory, but it doesn't guarantee anything. Dortmund isn't a weak team, Real Madrid must be more careful to prepare the strategy. Dortmund defense is quite strong, this is one of the key of their success in UCL this year. If Real Madrid players feel frustrated, they can be easier to beat with a counter-attack strategy. I hope Real Madrid players to do their best and they can keep good motivation in playing. However, I also still believe that Real Madrid can do it.
For guarantees, no one knows, we can never be completely sure because in any match there can be surprises worthy of the previous two fina FA and Europa League.

But I am confident in Real Madrid because they have a strong mentality so when the players are already in the squad they will not be afraid of opponents like in the semifinals against Bayern Munich able to change the situation.

This is just my own view of course I will not underestimate BVB they have made careful preparations for this final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on May 26, 2024, 11:27:26 PM
That's why Real Madrid's mentality is unquestionable because they've been in the final so many times that they've won 14 trophies, meaning they know what to do and they're unlikely to make the same mistake as Leverkusen.
Yep. Real Madrid already achieved the final UCL 17 times, and they only got a defeat 3 times. They already won 14 times UCL finals, they even win all the final UCL since the season 1997-1998. Real Madrid is very clear to dominate UCL finals, their chance is very high to win the trophy when they can reach the final UCL. Leverkusen has no history like Real Madrid in UCL.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4176668/2022/05/27/how-many-champions-league-finals-have-real-madrid-won/

The Real Madrid players have been rested for a long time in preparation for the final with BVB some of the players are also mature so I here will not doubt Real Madrid to lose even though BVB will fight Real Madrid's defense but so far they can be consistent.
Real Madrid players have enough time to take a rest. There is no serious problem about the physical of the players, only 2 players got injured. This won't be a problem because Ancelotti has many options to replace the injured players. Real Madrid players are 100% ready to face Dortmund in the upcoming final.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/real-madrid/kader/verein/418

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 27, 2024, 01:32:52 AM
And just a few days very soon, the game will be played with the team Real Madrid vs. Borussia Dortmund.  Both the teams are strong in this game as both the teams beat very strong teams to enter the finals. The best performance of this season is Real Madrid as they always perform at their best, as this match will see both teams trying hard to win the cup. Because it is normal for them to be aggressive at any time when they come to the final match.
Well I think that Madrid has a lot to prove, one of their best stars like Toni Kross is leaving, so they want to win this competition in part so that Kross's farewell in the UCL is epic, I think Ancelotti has known how to prepare with his team, as far as I know they have had a very hardTraining , now that they have less than 1 week left, I think the state of preparation and different strategies will be very good, or we can forget that Dortmund comes with everything, they are not looking for anything but glory, they want to leave with their heads held high and what Better than with a UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 28, 2024, 12:01:22 PM
Yes, that will be our hope, we definitely want to see an extraordinary final match that can be shown by these two teams, both Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund.

Even though some people doubt Borussia Dortmund because they think this is not an ideal match, I also hope that they will be able to prove that they can also provide very fierce competition to Real Madrid. Nothing is impossible, as long as they still have a chance, then hope is still there.
But now it looks like Dortmund will find greater motivation after seeing Atalanta win in the European League Final. Atalanta managed to beat Leverkusen, which was favored by almost everyone. And Atalanta won and surprised everyone.

Now Dortmund will definitely be motivated to do the same. But even so, Real Madrid is on a different level. But yeah anything is still possible. Surprises in football are what always make things more interesting. So it is not impossible if surprises occur in the UCL, just like in the European League.
Yes, that can be a motivation for them, if Atalanta can surprise them, of course they can too. However, the difference is that some succeed and some fail, and we don't know whether they will succeed in providing that surprise or not.

Now that the opportunity is still there, they must ensure that they are ready for this match. They don't have to think about anything, because it will be a burden for them, they can play freely so they can carry out the strategy given by the coach as well as possible.
Dortmund is definitely making very thorough preparations at the moment. But their careful preparation will not necessarily make them superior. But at least they have to provide strong resistance to Real Madrid. And didn't disappoint the crowd in the UCL Final. And Dortmund should also be able to enjoy the match more. Because it was a rare moment for them to get to the UCL Final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on May 28, 2024, 04:02:45 PM
Yes, that will be our hope, we definitely want to see an extraordinary final match that can be shown by these two teams, both Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund.

Even though some people doubt Borussia Dortmund because they think this is not an ideal match, I also hope that they will be able to prove that they can also provide very fierce competition to Real Madrid. Nothing is impossible, as long as they still have a chance, then hope is still there.
But now it looks like Dortmund will find greater motivation after seeing Atalanta win in the European League Final. Atalanta managed to beat Leverkusen, which was favored by almost everyone. And Atalanta won and surprised everyone.

Now Dortmund will definitely be motivated to do the same. But even so, Real Madrid is on a different level. But yeah anything is still possible. Surprises in football are what always make things more interesting. So it is not impossible if surprises occur in the UCL, just like in the European League.
Yes, that can be a motivation for them, if Atalanta can surprise them, of course they can too. However, the difference is that some succeed and some fail, and we don't know whether they will succeed in providing that surprise or not.

Now that the opportunity is still there, they must ensure that they are ready for this match. They don't have to think about anything, because it will be a burden for them, they can play freely so they can carry out the strategy given by the coach as well as possible.
Dortmund is definitely making very thorough preparations at the moment. But their careful preparation will not necessarily make them superior. But at least they have to provide strong resistance to Real Madrid. And didn't disappoint the crowd in the UCL Final. And Dortmund should also be able to enjoy the match more. Because it was a rare moment for them to get to the UCL Final.
Dortmund are very lucky to be in the finals this season, and they need to take advantage of this opportunity to see how they can play and if possible win Real Madrid. Real Madrid is a hard nut to crack which will make it impossible for Dortmund only if this season is theirs by fate. Real Madrid is known to be the favorite in the league and they have not lost any final match so I don't see this season a different one for them, because they are use to winning the league.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on May 28, 2024, 07:50:45 PM
Considering this is going to be something special, I am guessing that there isn't really any game left to matter aside from this (is there?). Meaning, if you want to watch club football before euro 2024 starts, then we are going to just watch this one. That typ of expectation is big too, not that UCL finals would ever be boring, but if it was like 3 weeks ago or something during the season, it would have gained a little bit less probably, and they know this so that's why they put it at the end. I believe that we are going to see Real Madrid for sure, but in any case, its always fun to watch, and almost always very close game, so I will be ready in front of my TV.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on May 28, 2024, 10:50:12 PM
Dortmund is definitely making very thorough preparations at the moment. But their careful preparation will not necessarily make them superior. But at least they have to provide strong resistance to Real Madrid. And didn't disappoint the crowd in the UCL Final. And Dortmund should also be able to enjoy the match more. Because it was a rare moment for them to get to the UCL Final.
The rumors are that Dortmund coach Edin Terzić is really thinking outside the box for the training, making his first team players train against the second team set up in the formation that Real Madrid plays and making them all wear white so that the first team players become used to Real Madrid and their traditional white attire before the finals. All the statistics favor Real Madrid but I would not doubt that money and their ability to cause an upset. Their journey to the final is not just luck they have worked hard for it and they deserve to be here.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on May 29, 2024, 07:10:43 AM
Dortmund are very lucky to be in the finals this season, and they need to take advantage of this opportunity to see how they can play and if possible win Real Madrid. Real Madrid is a hard nut to crack which will make it impossible for Dortmund only if this season is theirs by fate. Real Madrid is known to be the favorite in the league and they have not lost any final match so I don't see this season a different one for them, because they are use to winning the league.
I think Dortmund not get pressure yet for the Champion League final match than Real Madrid have expected must win their 15th Champion League trophies. I think give advantage for Dortmund for enjoying the final game without any huge pressure and exactly success qualifying to Champion League final is very good perform for teams finished on 5th standings place at domestic league.
In not fair comparison with Madrid success winning the domestic league because difference intention between Champion League and domestic league. I think Dortmund get benefit with not favorite team will play without pressure yet when facing Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 29, 2024, 12:02:59 PM
Dortmund is definitely making very thorough preparations at the moment. But their careful preparation will not necessarily make them superior. But at least they have to provide strong resistance to Real Madrid. And didn't disappoint the crowd in the UCL Final. And Dortmund should also be able to enjoy the match more. Because it was a rare moment for them to get to the UCL Final.
The rumors are that Dortmund coach Edin Terzić is really thinking outside the box for the training, making his first team players train against the second team set up in the formation that Real Madrid plays and making them all wear white so that the first team players become used to Real Madrid and their traditional white attire before the finals. All the statistics favor Real Madrid but I would not doubt that money and their ability to cause an upset. Their journey to the final is not just luck they have worked hard for it and they deserve to be here.
It's a pretty unique training method. And it seems that this training is also designed to make the players mentally stronger. Well, the coach realizes that it is very rare for Dortmund to reach the Final. So he definitely realizes that very thorough preparation is needed and it's not just about performance but the players' mentality also needs to be strengthened. So it is very natural that the training methods used are also slightly different.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on May 29, 2024, 02:52:55 PM
Dortmund is definitely making very thorough preparations at the moment. But their careful preparation will not necessarily make them superior. But at least they have to provide strong resistance to Real Madrid. And didn't disappoint the crowd in the UCL Final. And Dortmund should also be able to enjoy the match more. Because it was a rare moment for them to get to the UCL Final.
The rumors are that Dortmund coach Edin Terzić is really thinking outside the box for the training, making his first team players train against the second team set up in the formation that Real Madrid plays and making them all wear white so that the first team players become used to Real Madrid and their traditional white attire before the finals. All the statistics favor Real Madrid but I would not doubt that money and their ability to cause an upset. Their journey to the final is not just luck they have worked hard for it and they deserve to be here.
It's a pretty unique training method. And it seems that this training is also designed to make the players mentally stronger. Well, the coach realizes that it is very rare for Dortmund to reach the Final. So he definitely realizes that very thorough preparation is needed and it's not just about performance but the players' mentality also needs to be strengthened. So it is very natural that the training methods used are also slightly different.
I'm still confused as to how that method is out of the box or unique? Don't football teams around the world use their reserves to train with the first team from time to time? Changing the color of their shirt doesn't look like it makes any difference. These players had a lot of games under their belt already that they wouldn't be bothered what their opponent wears.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on May 29, 2024, 03:17:59 PM
Dortmund are very lucky to be in the finals this season, and they need to take advantage of this opportunity to see how they can play and if possible win Real Madrid. Real Madrid is a hard nut to crack which will make it impossible for Dortmund only if this season is theirs by fate. Real Madrid is known to be the favorite in the league and they have not lost any final match so I don't see this season a different one for them, because they are use to winning the league.
I think Dortmund not get pressure yet for the Champion League final match than Real Madrid have expected must win their 15th Champion League trophies. I think give advantage for Dortmund for enjoying the final game without any huge pressure and exactly success qualifying to Champion League final is very good perform for teams finished on 5th standings place at domestic league.
In not fair comparison with Madrid success winning the domestic league because difference intention between Champion League and domestic league. I think Dortmund get benefit with not favorite team will play without pressure yet when facing Real Madrid.

The Champions League finals have been nothing short of a rollercoaster ride but in the last 10 years, Real Madrid has been dominant,  three times have a club scored more than 2 goals in a final, and in the Champions League era, Real Madrid had never lost in the finals, but in the Champions Cup era, they lost 3 Times.
And I still bet next it will go with Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on May 29, 2024, 08:03:51 PM
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Dortmund is definitely making very thorough preparations at the moment. But their careful preparation will not necessarily make them superior. But at least they have to provide strong resistance to Real Madrid. And didn't disappoint the crowd in the UCL Final. And Dortmund should also be able to enjoy the match more. Because it was a rare moment for them to get to the UCL Final.
Dortmund are very lucky to be in the finals this season, and they need to take advantage of this opportunity to see how they can play and if possible win Real Madrid. Real Madrid is a hard nut to crack which will make it impossible for Dortmund only if this season is theirs by fate. Real Madrid is known to be the favorite in the league and they have not lost any final match so I don't see this season a different one for them, because they are use to winning the league.
Regardless of whether this is luck for Borussia Dortmund or not, their achievements in the Champions League this season are something good, they have provided something that is actually beyond everyone's predictions.

The opportunity came to them this season, but this is not something easy for them, because the opponents they will face are the strongest opponents currently in the Champions League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on May 29, 2024, 11:11:35 PM
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Dortmund is definitely making very thorough preparations at the moment. But their careful preparation will not necessarily make them superior. But at least they have to provide strong resistance to Real Madrid. And didn't disappoint the crowd in the UCL Final. And Dortmund should also be able to enjoy the match more. Because it was a rare moment for them to get to the UCL Final.
Dortmund are very lucky to be in the finals this season, and they need to take advantage of this opportunity to see how they can play and if possible win Real Madrid. Real Madrid is a hard nut to crack which will make it impossible for Dortmund only if this season is theirs by fate. Real Madrid is known to be the favorite in the league and they have not lost any final match so I don't see this season a different one for them, because they are use to winning the league.
Regardless of whether this is luck for Borussia Dortmund or not, their achievements in the Champions League this season are something good, they have provided something that is actually beyond everyone's predictions.

The opportunity came to them this season, but this is not something easy for them, because the opponents they will face are the strongest opponents currently in the Champions League.
It happens that during this time that Dortmund got to the finals, they will be playing with Real Madrid wh is the league favorite. Assuming it was not Real Madrid that will be playing with Dortmund in the finals, I would have say that Dortmund would be the winner of this season champions league. Dortmund needs to try their best to what the outcome of their best will be like.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on May 30, 2024, 06:48:40 AM
Regardless of whether this is luck for Borussia Dortmund or not, their achievements in the Champions League this season are something good, they have provided something that is actually beyond everyone's predictions.

The opportunity came to them this season, but this is not something easy for them, because the opponents they will face are the strongest opponents currently in the Champions League.
Its not luck after Dortmund success reaching to final round of Champion League season 2024-25 because success defeating many top teams from Atletico Madrid and PSG. Dortmund achievement lead until final because their hard work since phase round have many top teams and unbelievable success qualifying to knock out round as first standings position team and make Milan have been eliminated on phase group.
Dortmund will face Madrid in the final match and its not easy for Dortmund because Madrid success eliminating two top team Manchester City and Bayern Munich.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on May 30, 2024, 01:48:47 PM
Regardless of whether this is luck for Borussia Dortmund or not, their achievements in the Champions League this season are something good, they have provided something that is actually beyond everyone's predictions.

The opportunity came to them this season, but this is not something easy for them, because the opponents they will face are the strongest opponents currently in the Champions League.
Its not luck after Dortmund success reaching to final round of Champion League season 2024-25 because success defeating many top teams from Atletico Madrid and PSG. Dortmund achievement lead until final because their hard work since phase round have many top teams and unbelievable success qualifying to knock out round as first standings position team and make Milan have been eliminated on phase group.
Dortmund will face Madrid in the final match and its not easy for Dortmund because Madrid success eliminating two top team Manchester City and Bayern Munich.
But on the other hand, I also can't say that it wasn't luck, because if we look at the opportunities that Paris Saint Germain were able to create in the semifinals, it is something that can be said to be very lucky at the moment.

But it's also not pure luck, because they also worked hard to get it all. In the first leg they were able to win by a narrow score, and in the second leg they managed to win with the help of a little luck.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on May 30, 2024, 11:09:34 PM
Surprises in football are what always make things more interesting. So it is not impossible if surprises occur in the UCL, just like in the European League.
Surprises are bound to happen in every football match, and It is not every team that was predicted to win, wins as predicted.

The Champions League final match is in two days. The prediction is for Real Madrid to win as the strong contestant over Dortmund, and Dortmund on the other hand will try to prove to be worthy of having a loggerheads with Real Madrid for the UCL trophy. That will be really interesting to watch
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on May 30, 2024, 11:49:53 PM
Dortmund are very lucky to be in the finals this season, and they need to take advantage of this opportunity to see how they can play and if possible win Real Madrid. Real Madrid is a hard nut to crack which will make it impossible for Dortmund only if this season is theirs by fate. Real Madrid is known to be the favorite in the league and they have not lost any final match so I don't see this season a different one for them, because they are use to winning the league.
There is no term of "lucky", Dortmund has done hard efforts to reach the final. Dortmund also defeated strong teams in the previous rounds. Real Madrid can be the favorite team to win the final match but Dortmund won't be an easy opponent, they must play aggressively in the final to end up this season with a big trophy. However, it is true that Real Madrid has a great history in the UCL final, it looks like they will do it again. Since Real Madrid has a better squad, I also think that Real Madrid can deal with Dortmund in the UCL final. Let's see if Real Madrid is really superior in the final.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on May 31, 2024, 02:27:48 AM
To be fair Dortmund deserved to be at the finals this season. They had a tough group, managed to finish above Milan and Newcastle, which is a great deal of success already. Then they beat PSV, which arguably was their easiest matchup which tells you how great they are, because even PSV is a great team without a doubt. After that they managed to win against Athletico Madrid when nobody gave them a chance, which was a great success for them, and after that they managed to beat PSG as well when they were not the favorites yet again. So they have deserved to be here without a doubt. Doesn't mean they will win, but they deserved it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on May 31, 2024, 05:12:19 AM
To be fair Dortmund deserved to be at the finals this season. They had a tough group, managed to finish above Milan and Newcastle, which is a great deal of success already. Then they beat PSV, which arguably was their easiest matchup which tells you how great they are, because even PSV is a great team without a doubt. After that they managed to win against Athletico Madrid when nobody gave them a chance, which was a great success for them, and after that they managed to beat PSG as well when they were not the favorites yet again. So they have deserved to be here without a doubt. Doesn't mean they will win, but they deserved it.
I doubt with Dortmund will success qualifying from group stage because have Milan, Newcastle United and PSG as top teams recently, but unbelievable Dortmund success qualifying to knock out round as first standing teams and made Milan failed reach knock out round.
Since their performance in group phase Dortmund has potential make another surprise and finally beating two top teams Atletico Madrid and PSG before leading to final round.
Indeed not favorite team appearance in Champion League this season, Dortmund had show their consistency performance until success reach the final round and waiting will make Madrid get difficult for becoming the winner?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on May 31, 2024, 01:00:20 PM
Surprises in football are what always make things more interesting. So it is not impossible if surprises occur in the UCL, just like in the European League.
Surprises are bound to happen in every football match, and It is not every team that was predicted to win, wins as predicted.

The Champions League final match is in two days. The prediction is for Real Madrid to win as the strong contestant over Dortmund, and Dortmund on the other hand will try to prove to be worthy of having a loggerheads with Real Madrid for the UCL trophy. That will be really interesting to watch
It doesn't feel like the time is almost here. And tomorrow we will see the UCL final match. I hope Dortmund can put up a strong fight against Real Madrid. because everything will be more exciting if the two teams can compete closely. Real Madrid will definitely remain the favorites in this match. And surely many will bet on Real Madrid in this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on May 31, 2024, 07:48:55 PM
It doesn't feel like the time is almost here. And tomorrow we will see the UCL final match. I hope Dortmund can put up a strong fight against Real Madrid. because everything will be more exciting if the two teams can compete closely. Real Madrid will definitely remain the favorites in this match. And surely many will bet on Real Madrid in this match.
I also hope that Borussia Dortmund will provide very fierce resistance to Real Madrid in this Champions League final match.

Even though in the end they really lost, I hope at least they can provide meaningful resistance to make things difficult for Real Madrid. This is the final match and everyone wants to see a very interesting spectacle of the two teams who will face each other in this final match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on May 31, 2024, 09:53:10 PM
I hope Dortmund can put up a strong fight against Real Madrid. because everything will be more exciting if the two teams can compete closely. Real Madrid will definitely remain the favorites in this match. And surely many will bet on Real Madrid in this match.
Dortmund must try to play with their best to win the match. You don't need to doubt them, they must try all out. However, the quality of Dortmund squad and the experience to play in the UCL final are quite different. In theory, Real Madrid must be superior, they probably dominate the match so much. However, there is always a chance for a surprise, it is not impossible if Dortmund can give something unpredictable. The status of the favorite team sometimes doesn't influence anything in the match.

Even though in the end they really lost, I hope at least they can provide meaningful resistance to make things difficult for Real Madrid. This is the final match and everyone wants to see a very interesting spectacle of the two teams who will face each other in this final match.
I think Dortmund shouldn't be easy to be defeated. Each team which can reach the final, they must be ready to play all out for the trophy. It is just the final match for the trophy, the last step to be the champion. Even if Real Madrid is the favorite, I don't see it will be an easy match for them because Dortmund has a strong defense. I believe this will be an interesting final, but it looks like the trophy still for Real Madrid.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on May 31, 2024, 11:29:09 PM
Tomorrow we will witness the Champions League final that we are waiting for have you bet with the odds you want?

I see Real Madrid's chances are quite high despite the small odds of 1.66 but that's fair enough with what we've seen that Real Madrid is a strong team while Dortmund is unpredictable.

Dortmund might give a good fight but I on the other hand think Real Madrid's defense will be solid and they have a good counter attack, Vinicius and Rodrygo are two wingers who can find gaps in the defense.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on May 31, 2024, 11:45:06 PM
I see Real Madrid's chances are quite high despite the small odds of 1.66 but that's fair enough with what we've seen that Real Madrid is a strong team while Dortmund is unpredictable.
Real Madrid always becomes the favorite team in UCL. When they can reach the final, they have a very high chance to win the trophy. It is proven for many years, Real Madrid always win in the last 8 final matches. Real Madrid only got 3 losses from 17 final matches, they won 14 final matches. So, it is normal if most people will bet for Real Madrid.

Dortmund might give a good fight but I on the other hand think Real Madrid's defense will be solid and they have a good counter attack, Vinicius and Rodrygo are two wingers who can find gaps in the defense.
Dortmund has quite good players, we can expect the match will be interesting. Real Madrid must try to dominate the match by winning the ball possessions, they have better midfielders. Bellingham will be the key players in this final match, he knows how to deal with Dortmund players because he was a part of Dortmund player. Vinicius and Rodrygo will be the machine goals, these players should try to score as many as possible.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on May 31, 2024, 11:55:56 PM
I read some parts of the interview of the Dortmund manager, I must say he doesn't exude confidence. I don't a real winning mentality there but I don't know if that's just him trying to be humble and passive or just someone content on a good performance. Anyway, I think his approach to the game will be to defend and defend and defend  ;D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on June 01, 2024, 04:00:37 AM
It doesn't feel like the time is almost here. And tomorrow we will see the UCL final match. I hope Dortmund can put up a strong fight against Real Madrid. because everything will be more exciting if the two teams can compete closely. Real Madrid will definitely remain the favorites in this match. And surely many will bet on Real Madrid in this match.
I also hope that Borussia Dortmund will provide very fierce resistance to Real Madrid in this Champions League final match.

Even though in the end they really lost, I hope at least they can provide meaningful resistance to make things difficult for Real Madrid. This is the final match and everyone wants to see a very interesting spectacle of the two teams who will face each other in this final match.
Even though Real Madrid seems to be the favorite, we still hope for the best performance from Dortmund too. But of course every team that can reach the final is a strong team. And likewise, Dortmund is certainly also a strong team that even managed to beat PSG in the semi-finals. So of course Real Madrid will definitely not win easily. It could even be Dortmund who lifts the trophy this season. Even though the chances are very small.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on June 01, 2024, 01:36:16 PM
I also hope that Borussia Dortmund will provide very fierce resistance to Real Madrid in this Champions League final match.

Even though in the end they really lost, I hope at least they can provide meaningful resistance to make things difficult for Real Madrid. This is the final match and everyone wants to see a very interesting spectacle of the two teams who will face each other in this final match.
Even though Real Madrid seems to be the favorite, we still hope for the best performance from Dortmund too. But of course every team that can reach the final is a strong team. And likewise, Dortmund is certainly also a strong team that even managed to beat PSG in the semi-finals. So of course Real Madrid will definitely not win easily. It could even be Dortmund who lifts the trophy this season. Even though the chances are very small.
It doesn't feel like the moment we have been waiting for will soon come and in just a matter of hours we will be at the final that we have been waiting for so long.

I can't wait to see how this match goes and hopefully what I hope for really happens in this match. I want to see an open match and mutual attacks from the two teams that will compete. Hopefully there will also be surprises which will make the match more interesting.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on June 01, 2024, 05:50:45 PM
It doesn't feel like the moment we have been waiting for will soon come and in just a matter of hours we will be at the final that we have been waiting for so long.

I can't wait to see how this match goes and hopefully what I hope for really happens in this match. I want to see an open match and mutual attacks from the two teams that will compete. Hopefully there will also be surprises which will make the match more interesting.
Few hours left for the most expected waiting final match of Champion League between Dortmund vs Real Madrid, both teams fans I saw on social media arrived at Wembley stadium and most of them wearing their iconic jersey of their favorite teams.
We are watching in TV and keep interested because Madrid or Dortmund fans want to see their team can reach good result for Champion League final match. I have choose Madrid as favorite team for winning Champion League and I see many football fans keep believing with Dortmund potential.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on June 01, 2024, 07:38:02 PM
It doesn't feel like the moment we have been waiting for will soon come and in just a matter of hours we will be at the final that we have been waiting for so long.

I can't wait to see how this match goes and hopefully what I hope for really happens in this match. I want to see an open match and mutual attacks from the two teams that will compete. Hopefully there will also be surprises which will make the match more interesting.
Few hours left for the most expected waiting final match of Champion League between Dortmund vs Real Madrid, both teams fans I saw on social media arrived at Wembley stadium and most of them wearing their iconic jersey of their favorite teams.
We are watching in TV and keep interested because Madrid or Dortmund fans want to see their team can reach good result for Champion League final match. I have choose Madrid as favorite team for winning Champion League and I see many football fans keep believing with Dortmund potential.
In less than 2 hours we will be at the kick off of the first half, I think everyone is ready to watch this match, including me.

Tension will arise, especially for those who bet on this match. I think many people try their luck by betting on Borussia Dortmund, they hope the same thing will happen as in the Europa League final match.

I want to see the line up that both teams will field and they will definitely field their best squad.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on June 01, 2024, 09:50:30 PM
I want to see the line up that both teams will field and they will definitely field their best squad.
The line up for Dortmund has performed very well in the fight half and have just been able to keep Real Madrid quite even Vini Jr. They have not just defended well, but have also had the better chances of the game. Tactical wise, Dortmund has had it spot on, and their players have really been disciplined.

Carlo Ancelloti has a lot to tell his players because they have not been the superior team in this first half. Dortmund has been the better team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on June 01, 2024, 11:11:00 PM
Congratulations to Real Madrid!!!
The Champions of UCL 2024.

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https://x.com/ChampionsLeague

Carlo Ancelloti has a lot to tell his players because they have not been the superior team in this first half. Dortmund has been the better team.
Yes, in the first half Dortmund seemed to dominate the match. But whatever it is, Real Madrid's mentality is that good. When they reach the final round of the UCL, the chances of them winning are above 90%. And in the last 9 finals in which Real Madrid was one of the finalists, they won the UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on June 01, 2024, 11:13:08 PM
The line up for Dortmund has performed very well in the fight half and have just been able to keep Real Madrid quite even Vini Jr. They have not just defended well, but have also had the better chances of the game. Tactical wise, Dortmund has had it spot on, and their players have really been disciplined.

Carlo Ancelloti has a lot to tell his players because they have not been the superior team in this first half. Dortmund has been the better team.
In the first half of the match, Dortmund made a good lineup and they could play consistently. Dortmund can surprise us because they can dominate the match. I saw Dortmund can make more shot attempts. Unfortunately, the scored 0 goal, Real Madrid defense looked good. But it in the second half of the match, Real Madrid could play better. They changed the situation, they dominated the match. Finally Real Madrid scored 2 goals and won the match.

Congratulations, Real Madrid won the match with 2 goals.  :)

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on June 01, 2024, 11:26:14 PM
Congratulations to Real Madrid for winning again, we never doubted it before because Dortmund were no match for them.

Although in the first half the game was a bit boring....and Dortmund did quite well but Courtois kept a good clean sheet so he made a few saves.

When Real Madrid are in the final, they never fail and that has been the case for 20 years.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on June 01, 2024, 11:27:25 PM
Congratulations, Real Madrid won the match with 2 goals.  :)
Hala Madrid. This is the 15th time, they will be crowned the Champions League winners. It was a well deserved victory and they have displayed that they own the Champions League trophy more than any other club. A big congratulations to them. Real Madrid team should go and celebrate because their hard work pays(training). it wasn't really an easy journey from the start of the Champions League matches
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on June 01, 2024, 11:35:38 PM
Hala Madrid. This is the 15th time, they will be crowned the Champions League winners. It was a well deserved victory and they have displayed that they own the Champions League trophy more than any other club.
Dortmund should have been the team to celebrate in this game, they created many chances in the first half but later gave Real Madrid the opportunity to balance up their play and find their rhythm in the second half.

In the second half, immediately after Real Madrid started playing comfortably, Dortmund were already losing the game because giving Real Madrid the opportunity to pass the ball around would surely end in a goal.

The Ballon d'or is sure now for Vini Jr, his goal in the finals assures that.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on June 01, 2024, 11:49:14 PM
Hala Madrid. This is the 15th time, they will be crowned the Champions League winners. It was a well deserved victory and they have displayed that they own the Champions League trophy more than any other club.
Dortmund should have been the team to celebrate in this game, they created many chances in the first half but later gave Real Madrid the opportunity to balance up their play and find their rhythm in the second half.

In the second half, immediately after Real Madrid started playing comfortably, Dortmund were already losing the game because giving Real Madrid the opportunity to pass the ball around would surely end in a goal.

The Ballon d'or is sure now for Vini Jr, his goal in the finals assures that.
Of course there will be no any other player than Vini to win the Ballon d'or because he has performed impressively this season and he was also able to seal up the match with his last goal this season. I think that Dortmund lacks the champions league final experience and that was why they were unable to take advantage of their chances in the first half to win the game. Real Madrid is still the league favorite, and they have added another trophy to their record this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on June 02, 2024, 12:30:34 AM
The Ballon d'or is sure now for Vini Jr, his goal in the finals assures that.

The English mainstream would do everything to put up Bellingham in power ranking, well it's Euros and Copa America year so the results of how their respective countries performs would also be taken into consideration. If Brazil flops and England somehow win the Euros Bellingham chances of winning would be high.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on June 02, 2024, 04:35:33 AM
Of course there will be no any other player than Vini to win the Ballon d'or because he has performed impressively this season and he was also able to seal up the match with his last goal this season. I think that Dortmund lacks the champions league final experience and that was why they were unable to take advantage of their chances in the first half to win the game. Real Madrid is still the league favorite, and they have added another trophy to their record this season.
I can't imagine if Ballon D'or winner not Vinicius Junior or Jude Bellingham after success winning domestic league and champion league trophies. Can't acceptable if Lionel Messi become the winner of Ballon D'or with his downtrend performance and playing for not higher level competition.
Last night, Real Madrid play as usually their habit on the first half not show with serious mode but second half with few minutes match left success scoring two goals. Its not required with most beautiful game because Carlo Ancelotti tactician how to win the match and winning the UCL trophy.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on June 02, 2024, 06:31:13 AM
It was unfortunate for the Dortmund player whose effort hit the post in the first half. It's a great chance which could have changed their fate if converted into goal.

Congrats to both teams for an entertaining Finals that finished 2-0 but the game was closer than it looks.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on June 02, 2024, 01:29:34 PM
It was unfortunate for the Dortmund player whose effort hit the post in the first half. It's a great chance which could have changed their fate if converted into goal.

Congrats to both teams for an entertaining Finals that finished 2-0 but the game was closer than it looks.
Several opportunities that Borussia Dortmund had could not be converted into goals. In fact, they could match Real Madrid's game, but they couldn't match Real Madrid's ability to score goals, so that was what ultimately caused them to fail.

Disappointed for sure, but they shouldn't dwell on that disappointment because their opponents are indeed a very strong team and they are the best team at the moment.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on June 02, 2024, 05:01:00 PM
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I nearly lost my mind yesterday for the first half and another 10 minutes in the second half until Carvajal gave a leading goal and then Vinicious later followed.

If Dortmund forward has utilized most of the opportunities gotten yesterday, I counted Dortmund goal to be 3 but all weren't used, even though I bet for Real Madrid to win, I still felt for them but game is game. I had this strong belive that they were going to win Dortmund but it wasn't upto my expectations because Real Madrid didn't turn up on time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on June 02, 2024, 07:03:49 PM
It was unfortunate for the Dortmund player whose effort hit the post in the first half. It's a great chance which could have changed their fate if converted into goal.

Congrats to both teams for an entertaining Finals that finished 2-0 but the game was closer than it looks.
Several opportunities that Borussia Dortmund had could not be converted into goals. In fact, they could match Real Madrid's game, but they couldn't match Real Madrid's ability to score goals, so that was what ultimately caused them to fail.

Disappointed for sure, but they shouldn't dwell on that disappointment because their opponents are indeed a very strong team and they are the best team at the moment.
Real Madrid is has more luck that Dortmund and that was why you see that Dortmund was unable to score in the first half with the opportunities that they had. This was how Dortmund also was able to win PSG but not Madrid. Real Madrid turned the game around in the second half after the pressure that they got from Dortmund in the first half. Experience matters a lot in whatever we are doing. It was experience that Real Madrid used to put themselves together in order to stand the pressure of Dortmund in the first half without panic.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on June 02, 2024, 09:30:52 PM
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I nearly lost my mind yesterday for the first half and another 10 minutes in the second half until Carvajal gave a leading goal and then Vinicious later followed.

If Dortmund forward has utilized most of the opportunities gotten yesterday, I counted Dortmund goal to be 3 but all weren't used, even though I bet for Real Madrid to win, I still felt for them but game is game. I had this strong belive that they were going to win Dortmund but it wasn't upto my expectations because Real Madrid didn't turn up on time.
Get used to watching Real Madrid matches until the end is what people say because Madrid always score at the end of time like beating Bayern Munich and in the final beating Dortmund.

Perhaps Real Madrid fans will be tense in the first half because Dortmund's attack is much better than Madrid's but maybe it was Ancelotti's tactics to see the situation of Dortmund's game in the first half and in the second half it was a change where Real Madrid pressed more in the end to collect two goals for his victory.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on June 02, 2024, 09:58:10 PM
Congratulations, Real Madrid won the match with 2 goals.  :)
Hala Madrid. This is the 15th time, they will be crowned the Champions League winners. It was a well deserved victory and they have displayed that they own the Champions League trophy more than any other club. A big congratulations to them. Real Madrid team should go and celebrate because their hard work pays(training). it wasn't really an easy journey from the start of the Champions League matches
Well it's not an easy journey even for a strong squad like Real Madrid. Because this team even had to face two strong teams along the way. Like facing last season's champion Man City in the quarter-finals and then facing Bayern in the semi-finals. but Real Madrid managed to get through it all with their hard work and consistency on the field. So it is not surprising that they are now champions in the Champions League. And maybe next season Real Madrid will do the same thing. But other teams will definitely evaluate themselves so they don't lose again. Next season will be a season that should be filled with tougher competition. But for now, congratulations to Madrid for winning their 15th UCL title.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on June 02, 2024, 11:08:04 PM
I can't imagine if Ballon D'or winner not Vinicius Junior or Jude Bellingham after success winning domestic league and champion league trophies. Can't acceptable if Lionel Messi become the winner of Ballon D'or with his downtrend performance and playing for not higher level competition.
This would be shit if the winner was Messi. Because, after all, this year. Real Madrid champions La Liga as well as the Champions League. The most prestigious league among other club leagues. Not only looking at the title, but also Vini JR and Bellingham's performance for Real Madrid so far is that good. Whether Vini JR or Bellingham, they deserve this. It has to be between the two people if it is based on their performance results. I don't know if, for example, there is a chaotic cart involving various parties who want a certain player to be the winner. This will be different again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on June 02, 2024, 11:16:14 PM
I had a bet on Borussia winning the UCL as well as an earlier bet on a German team being the winner, so I didn't quite like the outcome.
Borussia fought well and proved they can compete at the same level as the Spanish giant, but they were out of luck in the first half. They had really good chances and if everything went right, they could have taken an early 2-0 lead, which would massively shift the odds in their favour, but unfortunately, that's not how it went down.
Anyhow, they still made it to the final, which is a success on its own. Everyone expected them to drop off at earlier stages, but they showed some perseverance and climbed up all the way to the final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on June 03, 2024, 12:58:03 AM
Real Madrid adding Mbappe will definitely be insane, I do not think that Endrick will have that much time playing right off the bat, I think that he is going to be someone who will gradually get more and more time, I do not expect it to be this much of a situation that easily, I think it should be something that will take a bit of time, and that means he is going to be subbed it later in games for a season at least, maybe a few seasons. But Mbappe will start playing right away, like from the first game, he doesn't need to get ready, he is already as great as he can be at that level and he will make a big difference to a team that already won UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on June 03, 2024, 06:49:18 AM
Real Madrid adding Mbappe will definitely be insane, I do not think that Endrick will have that much time playing right off the bat, I think that he is going to be someone who will gradually get more and more time, I do not expect it to be this much of a situation that easily, I think it should be something that will take a bit of time, and that means he is going to be subbed it later in games for a season at least, maybe a few seasons. But Mbappe will start playing right away, like from the first game, he doesn't need to get ready, he is already as great as he can be at that level and he will make a big difference to a team that already won UCL.
Mbappe will definitely immediately get the spotlight there. In fact, there is no doubt that Mbappe will immediately become the player who is considered the most important there. And Mbappe actually has the speed that Real Madrid has really needed for a long time. And yes, this could really make Real Madrid the most difficult team to stop next season. In fact, I'm starting to feel that in the UCL next season Real Madrid will be very favored with the presence of Mbappe.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on June 03, 2024, 12:42:01 PM
I had a bet on Borussia winning the UCL as well as an earlier bet on a German team being the winner, so I didn't quite like the outcome.
Borussia fought well and proved they can compete at the same level as the Spanish giant, but they were out of luck in the first half. They had really good chances and if everything went right, they could have taken an early 2-0 lead, which would massively shift the odds in their favour, but unfortunately, that's not how it went down.
Anyhow, they still made it to the final, which is a success on its own. Everyone expected them to drop off at earlier stages, but they showed some perseverance and climbed up all the way to the final.

Losing the Champions League final against Real Madrid was not a major blow.
All Dortmund players have tried their best. Failing, whining, complaining, and giving up don't help when it comes down to it.
Many people predict Dortmund will be eliminated in the round of 16, and I think all fans are proud of what this team has achieved, this season Dortmund has had great success internationally.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on June 03, 2024, 12:54:04 PM
Losing the Champions League final against Real Madrid was not a major blow.
All Dortmund players have tried their best. Failing, whining, complaining, and giving up don't help when it comes down to it.
Many people predict Dortmund will be eliminated in the round of 16, and I think all fans are proud of what this team has achieved, this season Dortmund has had great success internationally.

Dortmund has a lot of fan base I respected, more than. 60,000 fans travel all the way from their home I West London to watch that final match, even Real Madrid fans weren't upto that numbers that turn up for that match and they still won the league. From the chants, you could hear their voices from all corner and even invited Klopp and Mourinho to come watch.

A match mostly end with a winner and a loser, Real Madrid has won and Dortmund loss but aside from not been recognized as winners, there is a special reward that do go to their place, they should celebrate on that and come back next time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on June 03, 2024, 01:46:50 PM
Losing the Champions League final against Real Madrid was not a major blow.
All Dortmund players have tried their best. Failing, whining, complaining, and giving up don't help when it comes down to it.
Many people predict Dortmund will be eliminated in the round of 16, and I think all fans are proud of what this team has achieved, this season Dortmund has had great success internationally.

Dortmund has a lot of fan base I respected, more than. 60,000 fans travel all the way from their home I West London to watch that final match, even Real Madrid fans weren't upto that numbers that turn up for that match and they still won the league. From the chants, you could hear their voices from all corner and even invited Klopp and Mourinho to come watch.

A match mostly end with a winner and a loser, Real Madrid has won and Dortmund loss but aside from not been recognized as winners, there is a special reward that do go to their place, they should celebrate on that and come back next time.

The love by the fans 8) I Love Football...
It's not always about the result, it's about the journey.
Dortmund is one of the biggest clubs in Germany and Europe, Even Madrid fans respect this club, Dortmund plays a great game. Thank you for a year we won’t forget

24/25 Everything is reset to zero, there is no one, Who comes who goes Transfer time begins and Everything else is in the past. See ya on the next season
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on June 03, 2024, 08:47:44 PM
Losing the Champions League final against Real Madrid was not a major blow.
All Dortmund players have tried their best. Failing, whining, complaining, and giving up don't help when it comes down to it.
Many people predict Dortmund will be eliminated in the round of 16, and I think all fans are proud of what this team has achieved, this season Dortmund has had great success internationally.

Dortmund has a lot of fan base I respected, more than. 60,000 fans travel all the way from their home I West London to watch that final match, even Real Madrid fans weren't upto that numbers that turn up for that match and they still won the league. From the chants, you could hear their voices from all corner and even invited Klopp and Mourinho to come watch.

A match mostly end with a winner and a loser, Real Madrid has won and Dortmund loss but aside from not been recognized as winners, there is a special reward that do go to their place, they should celebrate on that and come back next time.
Since the history of Dortmund, this is their second time they will reach the finals and that is why you saw all those crowd of fans coming all the way both far and near to watch the finals in order to cheer up their club, but it was quite unfortunate that Dortmund was unable to win the match. However, it was a beautiful season for them to see themselves in the finals, and this will motivate them next season to see how far they can go.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on June 03, 2024, 11:57:08 PM
However, it was a beautiful season for them to see themselves in the finals, and this will motivate them next season to see how far they can go.
They did not loose out completely, they still earned some good amount of money from Jude Bellingham who they sold go Real Madrid. Still a win for them.

With Mbappe to Real Madrid, I still think they will win the UCL next season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on June 04, 2024, 12:48:45 AM
Terzic and Dortmund had a bit of falling off during the first half of the season, and Terzic even stated that he was doubting staying as manager and wanted a little bit of a break after this season ends to give him some time to look back on this. But in the second half of the season when they reached the finals, that made both sides actually think of this as something of a blessing, they liked the game back and Terzic looked to be a good candidate to stay for Dortmund. They did not end "that" great at Bundesliga, but even Bayern failed this year, so its understandable. I think they are going to extend the contract and stay a few more years.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on June 04, 2024, 04:35:13 PM
Since the history of Dortmund, this is their second time they will reach the finals and that is why you saw all those crowd of fans coming all the way both far and near to watch the finals in order to cheer up their club, but it was quite unfortunate that Dortmund was unable to win the match. However, it was a beautiful season for them to see themselves in the finals, and this will motivate them next season to see how far they can go.
reaching the final was something extraordinary for them, even though in the end they lost to Real Madrid. However, I'm sure they are still quite proud of what Borussia Dortmund achieved this season.

In my opinion, Borussia Dortmund should start thinking about achievements now, because they prioritize business over achievements, because I'm sure if they focus on achieving achievements they will be able to get them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on June 04, 2024, 05:36:40 PM
Terzic and Dortmund had a bit of falling off during the first half of the season, and Terzic even stated that he was doubting staying as manager and wanted a little bit of a break after this season ends to give him some time to look back on this. But in the second half of the season when they reached the finals, that made both sides actually think of this as something of a blessing, they liked the game back and Terzic looked to be a good candidate to stay for Dortmund. They did not end "that" great at Bundesliga, but even Bayern failed this year, so its understandable. I think they are going to extend the contract and stay a few more years.

Terzic changed his feelings towards his job and the approach that Terzic took was extraordinary, in the second half of the season, he improved the mentality and confidence of the players, they played bravely and overall performed well except in scoring goals.
Terzic's contract will expire in the summer of 2025, if management of the club extends Edin Terzic's contract, I think he deserves it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on June 04, 2024, 06:24:01 PM
reaching the final was something extraordinary for them, even though in the end they lost to Real Madrid. However, I'm sure they are still quite proud of what Borussia Dortmund achieved this season.

In my opinion, Borussia Dortmund should start thinking about achievements now, because they prioritize business over achievements, because I'm sure if they focus on achieving achievements they will be able to get them.
Dortmund still priority with business than great achievement and this season success qualified to Champion League final become good bonuses because has great opportunity for selling some top players. I believe Dortmund will sell some their players for next window transfer and will promote youth players to senior team for giving them more minutes playing with bigger opportunity has higher values in the future.
For next season, Champion League will use new format and its not easy for Dortmund if can sign any new players reach again until final round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on June 04, 2024, 08:04:43 PM
Since the history of Dortmund, this is their second time they will reach the finals and that is why you saw all those crowd of fans coming all the way both far and near to watch the finals in order to cheer up their club, but it was quite unfortunate that Dortmund was unable to win the match. However, it was a beautiful season for them to see themselves in the finals, and this will motivate them next season to see how far they can go.
reaching the final was something extraordinary for them, even though in the end they lost to Real Madrid. However, I'm sure they are still quite proud of what Borussia Dortmund achieved this season.

In my opinion, Borussia Dortmund should start thinking about achievements now, because they prioritize business over achievements, because I'm sure if they focus on achieving achievements they will be able to get them.
Yea, of course there nothing that you focus on and work towards your goal that will not be achieved. Dortmund was able to reach the finals, and that should not stop there. They should also have plans to win UCL, in order to mae them build a strong team to make it possible for them. With their current performance in the finals, it shows that they are strong to get whatever they are determined to, because they almost got it, but Real Madrid was the obstacle.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on June 04, 2024, 09:03:35 PM
However, it was a beautiful season for them to see themselves in the finals, and this will motivate them next season to see how far they can go.
They did not loose out completely, they still earned some good amount of money from Jude Bellingham who they sold go Real Madrid. Still a win for them.

With Mbappe to Real Madrid, I still think they will win the UCL next season.
Real Madrid, which will be even stronger next season after Mbappe's arrival, may indeed have the potential to win the UCL title again. Because he imagined the attack pattern that Ancelotti would make there after Mbappe was there. it would really be quite frightening for their opponents. Now they have very fast players. Which will make Real Madrid difficult to stop. So it is not surprising if we start to assume that next season the UCL could belong to Real Madrid again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on June 05, 2024, 01:34:29 PM
reaching the final was something extraordinary for them, even though in the end they lost to Real Madrid. However, I'm sure they are still quite proud of what Borussia Dortmund achieved this season.

In my opinion, Borussia Dortmund should start thinking about achievements now, because they prioritize business over achievements, because I'm sure if they focus on achieving achievements they will be able to get them.
Dortmund still priority with business than great achievement and this season success qualified to Champion League final become good bonuses because has great opportunity for selling some top players. I believe Dortmund will sell some their players for next window transfer and will promote youth players to senior team for giving them more minutes playing with bigger opportunity has higher values in the future.
For next season, Champion League will use new format and its not easy for Dortmund if can sign any new players reach again until final round.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Borussia Dortmund sell their valuable players, because that's what I often see almost every season they do. Actually, it doesn't matter either, because after all business will not be separated from football.

But do I think they can't make business and achievement targets work together? that's what they haven't done now. If they don't think about that, then I won't be surprised when they can no longer compete at the top of the Bundesliga.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on June 05, 2024, 11:12:35 PM
I had a bet on Borussia winning the UCL as well as an earlier bet on a German team being the winner, so I didn't quite like the outcome.
Borussia fought well and proved they can compete at the same level as the Spanish giant, but they were out of luck in the first half. They had really good chances and if everything went right, they could have taken an early 2-0 lead, which would massively shift the odds in their favour, but unfortunately, that's not how it went down.
Anyhow, they still made it to the final, which is a success on its own. Everyone expected them to drop off at earlier stages, but they showed some perseverance and climbed up all the way to the final.

Losing the Champions League final against Real Madrid was not a major blow.
All Dortmund players have tried their best. Failing, whining, complaining, and giving up don't help when it comes down to it.
Many people predict Dortmund will be eliminated in the round of 16, and I think all fans are proud of what this team has achieved, this season Dortmund has had great success internationally.
Much respect to Dortmund team for taking the silver metal of the champions League because it was never expected for them to reach the finals, and hold Real Madrid on a draw in the first half before Real Madrid scored their two winning goals in the late minute of the second half.

It would have been a shock and a history that Dortmund won Real Madrid in the finals of the Champions League. Real Madrid didnt agreed to that because it would make Dortmund to be among  clubs that have won against Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on June 05, 2024, 11:17:14 PM
Much respect to Dortmund team for taking the silver metal of the champions League because it was never expected for them to reach the finals, and hold Real Madrid on a draw in the first half before Real Madrid scored their two winning goals in the late minute of the second half.

It would have been a shock and a history that Dortmund won Real Madrid in the finals of the Champions League. Real Madrid didnt agreed to that because it would make Dortmund to be among  clubs that have won against Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League.
Many thought that Dortmund would cause an upset but it never happened because Real Madrid always retain the title when they are in the final, but for BVB it is a great achievement that they are in the final this season despite not being able to face Madrid.

Real Madrid will not let that history be taken away from them, they will continue to carve up the trophy cabinet, but next season we will still be favoring Real Madrid again because they have a good squad.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on June 06, 2024, 11:47:53 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Borussia Dortmund sell their valuable players, because that's what I often see almost every season they do. Actually, it doesn't matter either, because after all business will not be separated from football.

But do I think they can't make business and achievement targets work together? that's what they haven't done now. If they don't think about that, then I won't be surprised when they can no longer compete at the top of the Bundesliga.
Dortmund is a team that very often sells their star players. They prefer to get the money than keeping the players. They know the players have the dream to play in a bigger team, Dortmund never hinders their players to move. Even the players move to Bayern Munich, Dortmund has no problem. In same cases, Dortmund star players joined Bayern Munich and become the big players there. It never make Dortmund to be disappointed because they believe they can grow new star players.  :D

Dortmund isn't in their best shape in this season, there are many teams that can perform well, too. Leverkusen and Stuttgart performed amazing, even Bayern Munich can compete with them. So, It is not surprising to see Dortmund in a bad situation during the previous season. Let's see what Dortmund can do in the next season.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on June 07, 2024, 05:30:45 AM
Many thought that Dortmund would cause an upset but it never happened because Real Madrid always retain the title when they are in the final, but for BVB it is a great achievement that they are in the final this season despite not being able to face Madrid.

Real Madrid will not let that history be taken away from them, they will continue to carve up the trophy cabinet, but next season we will still be favoring Real Madrid again because they have a good squad.
Never any history or Real Madrid loss in the final match on Champion League, its make me believing 100% for Madrid will win their 15 of Champion League tittle than  Dortmund failed on their last final match season 2013 against Bayern Munich.

Madrid has dominance with composition teams than Dortmund and make them over confidence for winning Champion League trophy, next season they have signed Kylian Mbappe and make more than 80% ratio for winning the Champion League trophy and no doubt for put Madrid on the first list teams as strong candidate become the winner next season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on June 07, 2024, 02:50:35 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Borussia Dortmund sell their valuable players, because that's what I often see almost every season they do. Actually, it doesn't matter either, because after all business will not be separated from football.

But do I think they can't make business and achievement targets work together? that's what they haven't done now. If they don't think about that, then I won't be surprised when they can no longer compete at the top of the Bundesliga.
Dortmund is a team that very often sells their star players. They prefer to get the money than keeping the players. They know the players have the dream to play in a bigger team, Dortmund never hinders their players to move. Even the players move to Bayern Munich, Dortmund has no problem. In same cases, Dortmund star players joined Bayern Munich and become the big players there. It never make Dortmund to be disappointed because they believe they can grow new star players.  :D

Dortmund isn't in their best shape in this season, there are many teams that can perform well, too. Leverkusen and Stuttgart performed amazing, even Bayern Munich can compete with them. So, It is not surprising to see Dortmund in a bad situation during the previous season. Let's see what Dortmund can do in the next season.
Well, this is also what their supporters are concerned about, because Borussia Dortmund will sell their players even to their rivals in the Bundesliga. And the supporters think this is ridiculous, on the other hand, they also think that Bayern Munich always coups their star players.

But that's what Borussia Dortmund is like, it wouldn't be Borussia Dortmund if they didn't sell their star players. They actually have a very good ability to find new talent, but they only use it for their business interests.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on June 07, 2024, 11:15:57 PM
Never any history or Real Madrid loss in the final match on Champion League, its make me believing 100% for Madrid will win their 15 of Champion League tittle than  Dortmund failed on their last final match season 2013 against Bayern Munich.
If you checked the history of Real Madrid in the UCL final, they already reached the final for 18 times (including the current final). They got 3 defeats, they won 15 UCL finals. Sure, they never got losses in the UCL final since the season 1997-1998. So far, they always won the last 9 UCL finals. It is surely amazing records.

Madrid has dominance with composition teams than Dortmund and make them over confidence for winning Champion League trophy, next season they have signed Kylian Mbappe and make more than 80% ratio for winning the Champion League trophy and no doubt for put Madrid on the first list teams as strong candidate become the winner next season.
Real Madrid always has strong squad. They know very well how to build their squad and choose the right coach to manage the players. Ancelotti understands what the teams wants, they can manage the team wisely. Now, most of the players in Real Madrid are young players, the current squad will last a long time. For the next season, Real Madrid squad looks more convincing because they have Mbappe in their squad.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on June 07, 2024, 11:21:05 PM
Many thought that Dortmund would cause an upset but it never happened because Real Madrid always retain the title when they are in the final, but for BVB it is a great achievement that they are in the final this season despite not being able to face Madrid.

Real Madrid will not let that history be taken away from them, they will continue to carve up the trophy cabinet, but next season we will still be favoring Real Madrid again because they have a good squad.
Never any history or Real Madrid loss in the final match on Champion League, its make me believing 100% for Madrid will win their 15 of Champion League tittle than  Dortmund failed on their last final match season 2013 against Bayern Munich.

Madrid has dominance with composition teams than Dortmund and make them over confidence for winning Champion League trophy, next season they have signed Kylian Mbappe and make more than 80% ratio for winning the Champion League trophy and no doubt for put Madrid on the first list teams as strong candidate become the winner next season.
Real Madrid have never failed in a final in the last 20 years and have always won, so there's no doubt about it.

Real Madrid must lose in the semifinals or before because if it is in the final it will definitely never fail, this team has been nicknamed the king of Europe so I agree with the next season there is Mbappe Real Madrid will be even more powerful.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on June 08, 2024, 07:36:37 PM
Madrid has dominance with composition teams than Dortmund and make them over confidence for winning Champion League trophy, next season they have signed Kylian Mbappe and make more than 80% ratio for winning the Champion League trophy and no doubt for put Madrid on the first list teams as strong candidate become the winner next season.
Real Madrid always has strong squad. They know very well how to build their squad and choose the right coach to manage the players. Ancelotti understands what the teams wants, they can manage the team wisely. Now, most of the players in Real Madrid are young players, the current squad will last a long time. For the next season, Real Madrid squad looks more convincing because they have Mbappe in their squad.
Real Madrid is a team that can manage its team well, from coaches to players, so that is one of the keys to their success.

They know very well what they have to do if they want to achieve an achievement and this is also supported by good management. Because after all, in a team there must be continuity between management, coaches and players, because if they don't have a good relationship then it will make them fall apart too.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on June 08, 2024, 09:20:37 PM
I really do not think that many people really thought that Dortmund would win, I do not have like all the data in the world on who bet on which team and how much, but I would assume that more people probably bet on Real Madrid to win, and they were pretty right. Sportsbooks do not like those kinds of finals, like last year, and this year, because its usually a great team like City or Madrid, versus "smaller" teams like Inter and Dortmund. Don't get me wrong, both Inter and Dortmund are great teams, just not as great as the other two, those are just insanely better than anyone else in the world.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on June 08, 2024, 09:29:04 PM
I really do not think that many people really thought that Dortmund would win, I do not have like all the data in the world on who bet on which team and how much, but I would assume that more people probably bet on Real Madrid to win, and they were pretty right. Sportsbooks do not like those kinds of finals, like last year, and this year, because its usually a great team like City or Madrid, versus "smaller" teams like Inter and Dortmund. Don't get me wrong, both Inter and Dortmund are great teams, just not as great as the other two, those are just insanely better than anyone else in the world.
Well in reality both Inter Milan and Dortmund were two teams that we didn't expect at all to qualify for the final. Last season Inter Milan qualified for the final by surprise. And this season Dortmund is also doing the same thing. but the end result is always the same. Namely, they will lose to the favorite team who also qualified for the final. Last season Man City won the final because they beat Inter Milan. And this season Real Madrid won because they managed to beat Dortmund. And yes, next season Real Madrid will be even more difficult to stop after having Mbappe.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on June 09, 2024, 02:40:21 PM
Well in reality both Inter Milan and Dortmund were two teams that we didn't expect at all to qualify for the final. Last season Inter Milan qualified for the final by surprise. And this season Dortmund is also doing the same thing. but the end result is always the same. Namely, they will lose to the favorite team who also qualified for the final. Last season Man City won the final because they beat Inter Milan. And this season Real Madrid won because they managed to beat Dortmund. And yes, next season Real Madrid will be even more difficult to stop after having Mbappe.
Regarding Inter Milan, in fact I see that this season they are better than the previous season, but they couldn't reach the final, even though previously they could achieve that, even though in the end they had to lose too.

However, this is something that is not surprising, because several of the favorite teams actually have to meet in the knockout round matches where they have to beat each other.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on June 09, 2024, 11:13:51 PM
Well, this is also what their supporters are concerned about, because Borussia Dortmund will sell their players even to their rivals in the Bundesliga. And the supporters think this is ridiculous, on the other hand, they also think that Bayern Munich always coups their star players.
Borussia Dortmund do it for many years, they already sold many star players to Bayern Munich. Only new supporters who are surprised with this fact, old supporters must understand it. There is nothing wrong with Bayern Munich, it is okay to give offers to any player. If the players are loyal with Dortmund, they won't move to Bayern Munich. Marco Reus is one of the players who never left Dortmund, it is a perfect example of a loyal player.

But that's what Borussia Dortmund is like, it wouldn't be Borussia Dortmund if they didn't sell their star players. They actually have a very good ability to find new talent, but they only use it for their business interests.
Yep. Dortmund is a seller, they very often sold a star player. But they never stopped to raise other star players. Dortmund is a team that really knows how to make a business in growing star payers. They bought the players with cheap prices and sell them to get huge money.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on June 09, 2024, 11:35:03 PM
Well, this is also what their supporters are concerned about, because Borussia Dortmund will sell their players even to their rivals in the Bundesliga. And the supporters think this is ridiculous, on the other hand, they also think that Bayern Munich always coups their star players.
Borussia Dortmund do it for many years, they already sold many star players to Bayern Munich. Only new supporters who are surprised with this fact, old supporters must understand it. There is nothing wrong with Bayern Munich, it is okay to give offers to any player.
It's not just the new fans that reacts negatively to that but also their emotional (maybe passionate?) fans. They have their favorites and also want the best for their teams but they do not see things from the team's business perspective. As time tells us, can still remain in the top 4 of Bundesliga and play for CL after selling their top players.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on June 12, 2024, 02:41:28 PM
It's not just the new fans that reacts negatively to that but also their emotional (maybe passionate?) fans. They have their favorites and also want the best for their teams but they do not see things from the team's business perspective. As time tells us, can still remain in the top 4 of Bundesliga and play for CL after selling their top players.
Maybe their target is just that, competing at the top to be able to get tickets to go to the Champions League, and after they have had enough and are no longer targeting the championship title that their supporters have longed for.

They should also give offerings to the supporters, because we can see how loyal they are to the team, we even know that Borussia Dortmund is one of the teams that has supporters who have very high loyalty to their favorite team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on June 12, 2024, 02:59:10 PM
Real Madrid is a team that can manage its team well, from coaches to players, so that is one of the keys to their success.
Real Madrid understands about the principle to build a good team. They always find our proper players to be the successors. Not only the president and the coaches who know well to build the team, the scouts also have a big role to select the players. The insight and seriousness in building a team are the keys to Real Madrid success.

Because after all, in a team there must be continuity between management, coaches and players, because if they don't have a good relationship then it will make them fall apart too.
The president or the owner of the club has a big role for the continuity of the club. The club management, coaches, and players are selected by the president or the owner, too. There is no good future of the club if they have no ability to choose the right club management, coaches, and the player. And they must be very serious to choose all the parties of the club by spending a lot of money. The financial of the club is also very crucial here.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on June 13, 2024, 09:56:22 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Borussia Dortmund sell their valuable players, because that's what I often see almost every season they do. Actually, it doesn't matter either, because after all business will not be separated from football.

But do I think they can't make business and achievement targets work together? that's what they haven't done now. If they don't think about that, then I won't be surprised when they can no longer compete at the top of the Bundesliga.
Dortmund is a team that very often sells their star players. They prefer to get the money than keeping the players. They know the players have the dream to play in a bigger team, Dortmund never hinders their players to move. Even the players move to Bayern Munich, Dortmund has no problem. In same cases, Dortmund star players joined Bayern Munich and become the big players there. It never make Dortmund to be disappointed because they believe they can grow new star players.  :D

Dortmund isn't in their best shape in this season, there are many teams that can perform well, too. Leverkusen and Stuttgart performed amazing, even Bayern Munich can compete with them. So, It is not surprising to see Dortmund in a bad situation during the previous season. Let's see what Dortmund can do in the next season.
Well, this is also what their supporters are concerned about, because Borussia Dortmund will sell their players even to their rivals in the Bundesliga. And the supporters think this is ridiculous, on the other hand, they also think that Bayern Munich always coups their star players.

But that's what Borussia Dortmund is like, it wouldn't be Borussia Dortmund if they didn't sell their star players. They actually have a very good ability to find new talent, but they only use it for their business interests.
The truth is that it makes me sad that he is ending his player, because it is a team that was consolidated as it is, this season that passed very emotional things happened, what happened with Klopp, what happened with many players who are retiring from German football, the truth is it is the end of a cycle of great football stars and coaches, for me Dortmund is one of the teams that should be respected the most, they have never lost their prestige and have always known how to keep their heads held high, what happened in the UCL was something that is normal, it is not a reason for shame, they played against a team that is very connected with players who are very in tune with everything, for me Dortmund is a worthy representation of  German football.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on June 13, 2024, 11:10:37 PM
Real Madrid is a team that can manage its team well, from coaches to players, so that is one of the keys to their success.
Real Madrid understands about the principle to build a good team. They always find our proper players to be the successors. Not only the president and the coaches who know well to build the team, the scouts also have a big role to select the players. The insight and seriousness in building a team are the keys to Real Madrid success.
It cannot be denied that so far, Real Madrid has always been a solid team. And so far, it seems like they have never been hit by a specific case, such as a financial crisis or something else, right? This is because well management really has an influence. And this makes all units within Real Madrid even better.

Even though it was previously doubted after the era of Ronaldo and his friends, that Real Madrid's performance would decline, that was not proven at all. Because, they have also given birth and have various very talented players again and again. So, Real Madrid remains strong.

But that's what Borussia Dortmund is like, it wouldn't be Borussia Dortmund if they didn't sell their star players. They actually have a very good ability to find new talent, but they only use it for their business interests.
Dortmund has been famous like that for a long time. For some reason, they often sell talented players, whatever the condition. And after moving from Dortmund, many of these players skyrocketed their careers and even became top players who were always introduced by their new clubs. And again, Dortmund will remain like that.

But after they reach the UCL final this season, will they also do the same thing by selling their own players who are being targeted by other clubs? Hmmm, maybe this business is more promising.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on June 13, 2024, 11:53:19 PM
It's not just the new fans that reacts negatively to that but also their emotional (maybe passionate?) fans. They have their favorites and also want the best for their teams but they do not see things from the team's business perspective. As time tells us, can still remain in the top 4 of Bundesliga and play for CL after selling their top players.
I can imagine how the feeling of the fans when their favorite players moving to another team. I was a fan of Ronaldo when he played in Real Madrid, I am very sad when he decided to move to Juventus. I can understand if there are some fanatic fans of Dortmund that feel unsatisfied when the club sell them to Bayern Munich or other teams. Even if there will be new star players, it may not as well as the previous star players. However, Dortmund management has their own way, they always focus on the business. But they are good that they still can survive in the top 5 even if they lose many star players. They even can reach the final UCL this season although they sold Bellingham. I really appreciate Dortmund, this team is amazing.  ;)

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on June 16, 2024, 02:21:29 PM
But that's what Borussia Dortmund is like, it wouldn't be Borussia Dortmund if they didn't sell their star players. They actually have a very good ability to find new talent, but they only use it for their business interests.
Dortmund has been famous like that for a long time. For some reason, they often sell talented players, whatever the condition. And after moving from Dortmund, many of these players skyrocketed their careers and even became top players who were always introduced by their new clubs. And again, Dortmund will remain like that.

But after they reach the UCL final this season, will they also do the same thing by selling their own players who are being targeted by other clubs? Hmmm, maybe this business is more promising.
Borussia Dortmund can only stay where they are because of their own actions, I mean when they want to change their current habits then I'm sure they will be able to do better than what we see from them now.

You are right, several of the players sold by Borussia Dortmund became stars in their respective teams. The latest is Jude Bellingham who performed very well and could contribute to bringing Real Madrid to the Champions League title.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on June 16, 2024, 06:39:18 PM
Borussia Dortmund can only stay where they are because of their own actions, I mean when they want to change their current habits then I'm sure they will be able to do better than what we see from them now.

You are right, several of the players sold by Borussia Dortmund became stars in their respective teams. The latest is Jude Bellingham who performed very well and could contribute to bringing Real Madrid to the Champions League title.
Dortmund is very good at finding potential players who can be developed into star players. And every player who develops at that club ultimately becomes a star player at the other club that brought him in. Jude Bellingham and Haaland have been the most prominent in this regard in recent seasons. If this team chooses to retain every potential player they have managed to collect then perhaps Dortmund will indeed be a strong contender again in the UCL next season. But it's not surprising that Dortmund always sell their players who are improving their performance.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on June 16, 2024, 08:25:24 PM
Dortmund is very good at finding potential players who can be developed into star players. And every player who develops at that club ultimately becomes a star player at the other club that brought him in. Jude Bellingham and Haaland have been the most prominent in this regard in recent seasons. If this team chooses to retain every potential player they have managed to collect then perhaps Dortmund will indeed be a strong contender again in the UCL next season. But it's not surprising that Dortmund always sell their players who are improving their performance.
Dortmund has great scouts, that's probably the reason why they always can get potential players. They also have good trainers, they know how to optimize the ability of the players. Sure, there are already many big players from Dortmund. Haaland, Bellingham, Lewandowski, and many other big players. However, they never try to keep the players for a long time, they often sell the players when they have good market values.

Dortmund understand that it is better to sell the players because they can find out other new potential players. Dortmund also don't want to keep them a long time because they may ask for huge salaries at Dortmund. Dortmund may have no big funds to pay their players with big salaries. So, the best option is to sell them.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on June 16, 2024, 10:31:25 PM
Borussia Dortmund can only stay where they are because of their own actions, I mean when they want to change their current habits then I'm sure they will be able to do better than what we see from them now.

You are right, several of the players sold by Borussia Dortmund became stars in their respective teams. The latest is Jude Bellingham who performed very well and could contribute to bringing Real Madrid to the Champions League title.
Dortmund is very good at finding potential players who can be developed into star players. And every player who develops at that club ultimately becomes a star player at the other club that brought him in. Jude Bellingham and Haaland have been the most prominent in this regard in recent seasons. If this team chooses to retain every potential player they have managed to collect then perhaps Dortmund will indeed be a strong contender again in the UCL next season. But it's not surprising that Dortmund always sell their players who are improving their performance.
Dortmund is very promising team for developing star players and every season always earned much profit after promoting their youth player to senior team and has huge amount for transfer values to sell them. Jude Bellingham and Haaland as the last two players reach above 100 million euro of their values and Dortmund earned much profitable by selling both of them to Manchester City and Real Madrid.
But the habit of Dortmund more prepare sell their star player for selling make them difficult compete in domestic league although in this season success qualified until final round in champion league but their performance in domestic league out expectation by finish on 5th standings place.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on June 18, 2024, 01:28:52 PM
Borussia Dortmund can only stay where they are because of their own actions, I mean when they want to change their current habits then I'm sure they will be able to do better than what we see from them now.

You are right, several of the players sold by Borussia Dortmund became stars in their respective teams. The latest is Jude Bellingham who performed very well and could contribute to bringing Real Madrid to the Champions League title.
Dortmund is very good at finding potential players who can be developed into star players. And every player who develops at that club ultimately becomes a star player at the other club that brought him in. Jude Bellingham and Haaland have been the most prominent in this regard in recent seasons. If this team chooses to retain every potential player they have managed to collect then perhaps Dortmund will indeed be a strong contender again in the UCL next season. But it's not surprising that Dortmund always sell their players who are improving their performance.
Yes, they are one of the teams with the ability to find very good new seeds. They are very sharp in seeing the potential of a player and making him a very valuable big player.

However, they prefer to make a profit by selling it to another team at a very high price. When they retain the players they have been selling, I think not only can they compete fiercely in the Champions League, win the title and dominate, I think it is not impossible.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on June 19, 2024, 08:45:40 PM
It's not just the new fans that reacts negatively to that but also their emotional (maybe passionate?) fans. They have their favorites and also want the best for their teams but they do not see things from the team's business perspective. As time tells us, can still remain in the top 4 of Bundesliga and play for CL after selling their top players.
I can imagine how the feeling of the fans when their favorite players moving to another team. I was a fan of Ronaldo when he played in Real Madrid, I am very sad when he decided to move to Juventus. I can understand if there are some fanatic fans of Dortmund that feel unsatisfied when the club sell them to Bayern Munich or other teams. Even if there will be new star players, it may not as well as the previous star players. However, Dortmund management has their own way, they always focus on the business. But they are good that they still can survive in the top 5 even if they lose many star players. They even can reach the final UCL this season although they sold Bellingham. I really appreciate Dortmund, this team is amazing.  ;)

I also remember the time when Ronaldo was there, Madrid is a team that makes any player great, whoever comes there must take advantage of all his virtues, sometimes it can be the dream of many and few manage to fulfill it, in the case of Dortmund, wow it is an incredible team, it has exceptional players, and above all Marco Reus, for me one of the greats, I remember when he shared with the Venezuelan Juan Arango where he taught him a couple of tricks when taking some free kicks, they are players who appreciate each other a lot, and the friendship between him and LEWA? WOW another level, really these ties are what make me love Dortmund.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on June 20, 2024, 01:57:22 PM
Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on June 20, 2024, 05:00:40 PM
Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.

All European football clubs are part of UEFA and they follow the same rules, UEFA rules.
All big clubs have the same problems, like Financial Fairplay, fan expectations, etc...
Some clubs can solve their problems in one season, while others need more time but There are many reasons why they can be called a big club :)
So there is no reason to be pessimistic about the current condition of the club, trust the process, Barca has good management and knows exactly what they have to do to return to success at the highest level.
Enjoy the journey. Don't be pessimistic
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on June 21, 2024, 08:01:02 PM
Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.

All European football clubs are part of UEFA and they follow the same rules, UEFA rules.
All big clubs have the same problems, like Financial Fairplay, fan expectations, etc...
Some clubs can solve their problems in one season, while others need more time but There are many reasons why they can be called a big club :)
So there is no reason to be pessimistic about the current condition of the club, trust the process, Barca has good management and knows exactly what they have to do to return to success at the highest level.
Enjoy the journey. Don't be pessimistic
Maybe we have different thoughts on this, because the problems they are currently experiencing are their management errors in the past which brought them into the bad situation they are in now.

Of course they are one of the big teams, and in my opinion being pessimistic about them is valid because we definitely have our own reasons. but we shouldn't claim they will play badly, if that is a prediction then I think it is valid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on June 21, 2024, 10:32:34 PM
All European football clubs are part of UEFA and they follow the same rules, UEFA rules.
All big clubs have the same problems, like Financial Fairplay, fan expectations, etc...
Some clubs can solve their problems in one season, while others need more time but There are many reasons why they can be called a big club :)
So there is no reason to be pessimistic about the current condition of the club, trust the process, Barca has good management and knows exactly what they have to do to return to success at the highest level.
Enjoy the journey. Don't be pessimistic
Financial fair play is bullshit problem facing by mediocre or small team only but the top team although their financial not balance yet with outcome and income always safe and never get suspended from UEFA or each domestic league association. Did you see how much money spending by PSG and not balance yet between buying or selling players but every season never faced with FFP rule.
The same with Manchester City, since acquisition they must spent much money but never break out the rule of financial fair play and never get suspended from UEFA.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on June 21, 2024, 11:13:49 PM
Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.
A new coach may not have players adapt to his style easily, so Barcelona are expected to struggle next season in the La Liga and every other competition that they play. Of all the teams in the Champions league that I expect a lot from, Barcelona is not one them. Manchester City failed to defend it this season, but next season in the Champions League, they will go for it again because Pep is a very ambitious coach who will like to win the champions league again with City.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on June 21, 2024, 11:39:10 PM
Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.
Of course, this will be very difficult for Barcelona with the club's current condition. especially with the new coach. Yes, it is true that Hansi Flick has to work extra carefully in taking all actions related to purchases so that they don't go to waste and seem rushed. We understand that Barcelona's financial condition is very difficult, so Flick has to do extra work to do his best.

So, at UCL in 2024-2025, this will definitely be very difficult. More big and consistent clubs will also be included in the UCL qualifiers next season. So, every club must be ready and prepare everything to be the best at this prestigious club event.

Source:
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/028a-1a4c5f292492-f6d3a5ee82bd-1000--2024-25-champions-league-who-has-qualified-directly-for-t/
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on June 22, 2024, 01:29:28 PM
Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.
A new coach may not have players adapt to his style easily, so Barcelona are expected to struggle next season in the La Liga and every other competition that they play. Of all the teams in the Champions league that I expect a lot from, Barcelona is not one them. Manchester City failed to defend it this season, but next season in the Champions League, they will go for it again because Pep is a very ambitious coach who will like to win the champions league again with City.
Of course they need adaptation to be able to implement the style of play desired by a coach. The reason is, as said, coaches have their own style of play.

Maybe they should lower their expectations of Barcelona a little this season, at least before we see how they play. Because it doesn't rule out the possibility that they can play better than expected. Nothing is impossible, as long as brands are willing to work harder.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on June 26, 2024, 03:06:50 PM
Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.

All European football clubs are part of UEFA and they follow the same rules, UEFA rules.
All big clubs have the same problems, like Financial Fairplay, fan expectations, etc...
Some clubs can solve their problems in one season, while others need more time but There are many reasons why they can be called a big club :)
So there is no reason to be pessimistic about the current condition of the club, trust the process, Barca has good management and knows exactly what they have to do to return to success at the highest level.
Enjoy the journey. Don't be pessimistic
I am a Madrid native, but right now I want things to go well for Barcelona in terms of players and for them to have enough money to recruit the best players so they can make their team the most competitive as always and for the rivalry between Barcelona and Madrid to continue. You have to see that now the teams in the League are getting very strong and are doing everything possible to make them play better and better, that's why every time we see that many are generating better football, it can be predicted that the level of football is getting higher and higher , that's why I want Barcelona to do well in this transfer season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on June 26, 2024, 06:25:39 PM
Next season Barcelona will have to work harder to be able to compete in the Champions League. Now their problems are not over, but they have to take part in the competition no matter what their current situation is.

If they can't play a good game, then I won't be surprised when they fail in the Champions League next season. Moreover, they are also with a new coach now. I don't mean to underestimate Flick, but he has many limitations from the team he handles.
I want to come in from the aspect of the former coach of Barcelona Xavi Hernandez. He took over the club when they were in financial crisis and I believe it is only a few coach that will agree to take up such a challenge. Due to he is the legend of the club, he took over there headship of that club in the coaching aspect and did excellently well. Yes, I will not deny the fact that he did well and was even competing with Real Madrid and beating them in many occasions. Where he had his limitation was in the Champions League and other European competitions. Who knows if the new coach have better idea on how to approach the Champions League competition and he could be lucky to go far. But then, even if such a thing has to happen it must not be this season. He needs time to synchronize with the team and find a head way. He is quite unfortunate that his rival club is very much formidable now.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on June 26, 2024, 11:15:38 PM
I am a Madrid native, but right now I want things to go well for Barcelona in terms of players and for them to have enough money to recruit the best players so they can make their team the most competitive as always and for the rivalry between Barcelona and Madrid to continue. You have to see that now the teams in the League are getting very strong and are doing everything possible to make them play better and better, that's why every time we see that many are generating better football, it can be predicted that the level of football is getting higher and higher , that's why I want Barcelona to do well in this transfer season.

Barcelona will have to fill a 130 million euro 'hole' in their account before the end of June if they want to sign new players this summer but they can be creative with loan players and free transfers.
Barcelona already has a squad containing quality players, but it looks like Flick still wants to bring in some new payer to complete the team and on loan, Hull City winger Jaden Philogene is a sensible choice.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on June 27, 2024, 04:09:28 PM
I want to come in from the aspect of the former coach of Barcelona Xavi Hernandez. He took over the club when they were in financial crisis and I believe it is only a few coach that will agree to take up such a challenge. Due to he is the legend of the club, he took over there headship of that club in the coaching aspect and did excellently well. Yes, I will not deny the fact that he did well and was even competing with Real Madrid and beating them in many occasions. Where he had his limitation was in the Champions League and other European competitions. Who knows if the new coach have better idea on how to approach the Champions League competition and he could be lucky to go far. But then, even if such a thing has to happen it must not be this season. He needs time to synchronize with the team and find a head way. He is quite unfortunate that his rival club is very much formidable now.
Even now when they kicked Xavi Hernandez they still had the same problems, namely they still had financial problems. However, it was different, because when Xavi was appointed, Barcelona at that time was in the middle of the table. And Xavi's arrival brought them to continue to improve and be able to return to the top flight.

It would definitely be difficult for anyone to handle a team that is having difficulties like this and actually Xavi has carried out his duties well, it's just that the management has a little problem with him.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on June 27, 2024, 04:22:27 PM
Barcelona will have to fill a 130 million euro 'hole' in their account before the end of June if they want to sign new players this summer but they can be creative with loan players and free transfers.
Barcelona already has a squad containing quality players, but it looks like Flick still wants to bring in some new payer to complete the team and on loan, Hull City winger Jaden Philogene is a sensible choice.


yes I had read about this very heavy balance of Barcelona
I'm very sorry, but this problem of modern football with too much money has gotten out of hand
there is too much money, there are too high salaries and players cost too much

something like this can't last forever
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on June 27, 2024, 07:05:15 PM
Even now when they kicked Xavi Hernandez they still had the same problems, namely they still had financial problems. However, it was different, because when Xavi was appointed, Barcelona at that time was in the middle of the table. And Xavi's arrival brought them to continue to improve and be able to return to the top flight.

It would definitely be difficult for anyone to handle a team that is having difficulties like this and actually Xavi has carried out his duties well, it's just that the management has a little problem with him.
Still do not know when the end era of Barcelona financial problem since leaving by Lionel Messi last several years ago until right now the classic problem faced by Barcelona every season. Sack Xavi Hernandez from his position actually left much problem with compensation not paid yet behind several years contract left but Xavi only as to management for paying his staff only not for him.

Believe or not, Xavi Hernandez is the only one success manager winning La Liga trophy when Barcelona on financial crisis, I think difficult did by any manager else and I doubt Hansi Flick will repeat success achievement did by Xavi.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Roseline492 on June 27, 2024, 07:44:01 PM
Barcelona will have to fill a 130 million euro 'hole' in their account before the end of June if they want to sign new players this summer but they can be creative with loan players and free transfers.
Barcelona already has a squad containing quality players, but it looks like Flick still wants to bring in some new payer to complete the team and on loan, Hull City winger Jaden Philogene is a sensible choice.

Is actually a big problem for Barcelona because financial issues is not something a club should go through because that's one of the factors that brings clubs to there kneel, however I'm still wondering how come a club as big as Barcelona will be having financial issues because I can't really picture it out, perhaps it could be there financial management faults.

Well whichever way they need to upgrade before the new season started if not they will not have the chance to win any league or get to the second position of there local league, though I heard they have some players in mind to hire but they are still not okay with the amount of money they tag him, perhaps they will be reasoning to use the money they have to get some Academy players than spending it on one player.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on June 27, 2024, 11:48:46 PM
Is actually a big problem for Barcelona because financial issues is not something a club should go through because that's one of the factors that brings clubs to there kneel, however I'm still wondering how come a club as big as Barcelona will be having financial issues because I can't really picture it out, perhaps it could be there financial management faults.
Yes, the facts are like that. Barcelona has been experiencing a financial crisis for several years. In fact, this condition has started to get worse since 2014/2015, it's just that at that time, they still had a variety of top players and they still often won matches. So it doesn't have too much of a bad impact. And it got worse during the Covid-19 pandemic. They have less and less income, but on the other hand, there are lots of expenses that they have to fulfill. So, Barcelona was in huge debt. Not only do they owe debts to certain parties to cover other debts, but they also have debts to each player. And that also results in a cut in player fees.

Ah, the point is, Barcelona's finances are really down and they are really under pressure from very large debts. And they are currently still fighting for it. Fortunately, they currently have big sponsors, so this can be enough to help them with some operations. Yes, if you think about it, a club as big as Barcelona can experience financial problems so bad that they become a crisis, but that's what happened. And this has a big impact on their ability to buy players at high fees. that's why they always set purchases with a limited budget.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/39956504/barcelona-finances-laporta-laliga-palanca-assets-transfers
https://www.goal.com/en/lists/barcelona-run-out-financial-levers-mess-disaster-inevitable/blt3bf95b8c81325102
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on June 28, 2024, 03:22:35 PM
Even now when they kicked Xavi Hernandez they still had the same problems, namely they still had financial problems. However, it was different, because when Xavi was appointed, Barcelona at that time was in the middle of the table. And Xavi's arrival brought them to continue to improve and be able to return to the top flight.

It would definitely be difficult for anyone to handle a team that is having difficulties like this and actually Xavi has carried out his duties well, it's just that the management has a little problem with him.
Still do not know when the end era of Barcelona financial problem since leaving by Lionel Messi last several years ago until right now the classic problem faced by Barcelona every season. Sack Xavi Hernandez from his position actually left much problem with compensation not paid yet behind several years contract left but Xavi only as to management for paying his staff only not for him.

Believe or not, Xavi Hernandez is the only one success manager winning La Liga trophy when Barcelona on financial crisis, I think difficult did by any manager else and I doubt Hansi Flick will repeat success achievement did by Xavi.
Even if I'm not mistaken, they sold Messi at that time because they also needed money so they decided to sell their star player to Paris Saint Germain who did make a very high offer.

Now they need fresh funds to get them out of this problem, the problem is that they themselves are having difficulty getting it. And in reality, their owners don't want to make any sacrifices by selling Barcelona, ​​for example.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on July 10, 2024, 02:52:36 PM
The new Champions League format will be implemented next season, there will be more teams taking part in this competition. Several leagues also have additional quotas for teams that can appear in the Champions League, one of which is the Bundesliga.

Previously, the Bundesliga only had 4 quotas for its teams to go to the Champions League, but next season they have 1 additional slot and can send 5 representatives to compete in the biggest competition in Europe.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: notblox1 on July 10, 2024, 11:41:37 PM
The new Champions League format will be implemented next season, there will be more teams taking part in this competition. Several leagues also have additional quotas for teams that can appear in the Champions League, one of which is the Bundesliga.
They did the same thing with EURO 2024 with adding more national teams.
I dont think this will bring more quality to Champions League competition and it can create more problems in future.
If many teams are easier to get in Champions League than it is not going to be so special to participate in this competition.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on July 11, 2024, 02:06:52 PM
The new Champions League format will be implemented next season, there will be more teams taking part in this competition. Several leagues also have additional quotas for teams that can appear in the Champions League, one of which is the Bundesliga.
They did the same thing with EURO 2024 with adding more national teams.
I dont think this will bring more quality to Champions League competition and it can create more problems in future.
If many teams are easier to get in Champions League than it is not going to be so special to participate in this competition.
The new format will also apply to the 2026 World Cup, now many countries are increasing their chances of qualifying for the World Cup. This is actually something that has advantages and on the other hand there is a risk that competition may decrease more competitively.

However, this format has been inaugurated, we just need to wait to see whether this new format does not reduce the competitive level or vice versa. However, what is clear is that all teams must be able to show their improvement so that they can add new colors to the competition.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: giammangiato on July 11, 2024, 02:22:34 PM
The new Champions League format will be implemented next season, there will be more teams taking part in this competition. Several leagues also have additional quotas for teams that can appear in the Champions League, one of which is the Bundesliga.

Previously, the Bundesliga only had 4 quotas for its teams to go to the Champions League, but next season they have 1 additional slot and can send 5 representatives to compete in the biggest competition in Europe.


They do it to give us more matches and therefore increase the audience and the advertising and TV revenues.
For me it is enough to watch good matches of my beloved Juventus and I am happy, this summer I was less bored with the European Championships. So I can say that from my point of view, I am happy with these changes in the Champions League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: notblox1 on July 11, 2024, 11:38:40 PM
The new format will also apply to the 2026 World Cup, now many countries are increasing their chances of qualifying for the World Cup.
This is stupid in my opinion, but I am sure many small countries will have nice tourist time in United States, Mexico and Canada during WC 2026  ;D
But I have a hunch they could postpone this World Cup because of some war or other events like we saw few years ago when EURO 2020 was postponed.
More teams and more countries doesnt mean better and more quality competition.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on July 12, 2024, 02:44:52 AM
The new Champions League format will be implemented next season, there will be more teams taking part in this competition. Several leagues also have additional quotas for teams that can appear in the Champions League, one of which is the Bundesliga.

Previously, the Bundesliga only had 4 quotas for its teams to go to the Champions League, but next season they have 1 additional slot and can send 5 representatives to compete in the biggest competition in Europe.


They do it to give us more matches and therefore increase the audience and the advertising and TV revenues.
For me it is enough to watch good matches of my beloved Juventus and I am happy, this summer I was less bored with the European Championships. So I can say that from my point of view, I am happy with these changes in the Champions League.

I am also happy, and this is something that has been decided not only for the UCL, but also for the World Cup, where more teams can qualify, and that is something that is very beneficial for many, because it hurts to see teams that give their all and are good but due to lack of luck they cannot qualify. The same thing happens in the local leagues in Europe for the UCL qualification. It is really good that they are expanded, not only for the opportunity for other Teams, but also because there will be much more football.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on July 12, 2024, 01:32:42 PM
The new format will also apply to the 2026 World Cup, now many countries are increasing their chances of qualifying for the World Cup.
This is stupid in my opinion, but I am sure many small countries will have nice tourist time in United States, Mexico and Canada during WC 2026  ;D
But I have a hunch they could postpone this World Cup because of some war or other events like we saw few years ago when EURO 2020 was postponed.
More teams and more countries doesnt mean better and more quality competition.
That's the point I also want to convey, a lot of teams taking part in a competition doesn't mean the competition will be more interesting. Maybe on the one hand, teams that previously had a very small chance of qualifying, now they have a greater chance of qualifying.

The question is are they capable of competing? Or will they just be a complementary team and become a goal reservoir for a team that is already used to being in this World Cup?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on July 12, 2024, 02:14:04 PM
The new Champions League format will be implemented next season, there will be more teams taking part in this competition. Several leagues also have additional quotas for teams that can appear in the Champions League, one of which is the Bundesliga.

Previously, the Bundesliga only had 4 quotas for its teams to go to the Champions League, but next season they have 1 additional slot and can send 5 representatives to compete in the biggest competition in Europe.
Serie A and the Bundesliga are the ones who get the opportunity to send 5 team representatives to the UCL. In fact, you can actually get 6 slots from Serie A as long as Atalanta wins the European league and is also outside the UCL zone in the Serie A standings. but unfortunately Atalanta ended the season in 4th place which automatically means Serie A only gets 5 places.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on July 13, 2024, 02:58:17 PM
The new Champions League format will be implemented next season, there will be more teams taking part in this competition. Several leagues also have additional quotas for teams that can appear in the Champions League, one of which is the Bundesliga.

Previously, the Bundesliga only had 4 quotas for its teams to go to the Champions League, but next season they have 1 additional slot and can send 5 representatives to compete in the biggest competition in Europe.
Serie A and the Bundesliga are the ones who get the opportunity to send 5 team representatives to the UCL. In fact, you can actually get 6 slots from Serie A as long as Atalanta wins the European league and is also outside the UCL zone in the Serie A standings. but unfortunately Atalanta ended the season in 4th place which automatically means Serie A only gets 5 places.
If only at that time AS Roma could perform well at the end of the season and Bologna could also perform well so that they could be above Atalanta at the end of the season, then Serie A would place 6 representatives in the Champions League this season.

But Atalanta is so strong and better last season. They reached the final of the Copa Italia even though they had to lose to Juventus in the final match. They managed to reach the Europa League final and beat Leverkusen so they succeeded in becoming champions.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on July 20, 2024, 02:42:26 PM
There are 36 teams that will compete in the Champions League this season. Usually we only see 32 teams competing in the Champions League, but with the new format there is an additional quota of 4 teams entering the Champions League.

The group format that we usually see has also changed, because now they will apply a league system with the same standings. Later they will play 8 matches and fight for position to qualify for the next round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on July 20, 2024, 03:58:38 PM
There are 36 teams that will compete in the Champions League this season. Usually we only see 32 teams competing in the Champions League, but with the new format there is an additional quota of 4 teams entering the Champions League.

The group format that we usually see has also changed, because now they will apply a league system with the same standings. Later they will play 8 matches and fight for position to qualify for the next round.
UEFA Champion League season 2024/25 adopt new format and have several additional teams participants from usually 32 teams become 36 teams. For next season, each team on group stage will play 8 matches with four home and four away matches its difference woth old Champion League format play six matches in group phase.
New format adopt with league system seems less interested than competition format only two top standing teams each group are qualified to 16 of round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on July 20, 2024, 08:48:31 PM
There are 36 teams that will compete in the Champions League this season. Usually we only see 32 teams competing in the Champions League, but with the new format there is an additional quota of 4 teams entering the Champions League.

The group format that we usually see has also changed, because now they will apply a league system with the same standings. Later they will play 8 matches and fight for position to qualify for the next round.
UEFA Champion League season 2024/25 adopt new format and have several additional teams participants from usually 32 teams become 36 teams. For next season, each team on group stage will play 8 matches with four home and four away matches its difference woth old Champion League format play six matches in group phase.
New format adopt with league system seems less interested than competition format only two top standing teams each group are qualified to 16 of round.
It will be interesting because only the best teams will qualify to the round of 16. I like the concept because it gives room for more clubs to participate in the Champions League and who knows if the clubs on the 5th position that qualified to UCL will perform better than the clubs that was in the 3rd and 4th position. Changes is constant in life and here is one.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on July 20, 2024, 10:14:15 PM
It will be interesting because only the best teams will qualify to the round of 16. I like the concept because it gives room for more clubs to participate in the Champions League and who knows if the clubs on the 5th position that qualified to UCL will perform better than the clubs that was in the 3rd and 4th position. Changes is constant in life and here is one.
With the new format of the Champions League will give other clubs a chance but clearly we already know which teams will qualify it is not much different from last season that's what I think and Real Madrid remains the most favorite.

Now for the Champions League qualifiers it's not over yet, this is a lowly team so they won't be going any further for the Champions League but they're hoping that getting into this zone will be better for them even though it will be an early exit.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on July 21, 2024, 02:13:01 PM
There are 36 teams that will compete in the Champions League this season. Usually we only see 32 teams competing in the Champions League, but with the new format there is an additional quota of 4 teams entering the Champions League.

The group format that we usually see has also changed, because now they will apply a league system with the same standings. Later they will play 8 matches and fight for position to qualify for the next round.
UEFA Champion League season 2024/25 adopt new format and have several additional teams participants from usually 32 teams become 36 teams. For next season, each team on group stage will play 8 matches with four home and four away matches its difference woth old Champion League format play six matches in group phase.
New format adopt with league system seems less interested than competition format only two top standing teams each group are qualified to 16 of round.
It will be interesting because only the best teams will qualify to the round of 16. I like the concept because it gives room for more clubs to participate in the Champions League and who knows if the clubs on the 5th position that qualified to UCL will perform better than the clubs that was in the 3rd and 4th position. Changes is constant in life and here is one.
In the old format, the best team would definitely qualify for the next round. Actually, the way it works is still the same, there is a draw as to who will be their opponent and they also have to get as many points as possible to qualify for the next round.

Here there will also be 8 teams that automatically qualify for the next round, while the other 16 teams must go through the play-off round which is determined based on their ranking in the standings (ranks 9 to 24).
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on July 21, 2024, 10:18:10 PM
It will be interesting because only the best teams will qualify to the round of 16. I like the concept because it gives room for more clubs to participate in the Champions League and who knows if the clubs on the 5th position that qualified to UCL will perform better than the clubs that was in the 3rd and 4th position. Changes is constant in life and here is one.
In the old format, the best team would definitely qualify for the next round. Actually, the way it works is still the same, there is a draw as to who will be their opponent and they also have to get as many points as possible to qualify for the next round.

Here there will also be 8 teams that automatically qualify for the next round, while the other 16 teams must go through the play-off round which is determined based on their ranking in the standings (ranks 9 to 24).
[/quote]Mechanism of new format just difference on group phase only from competition format with two top teams standings qualify to knock out and become league format each teams will play 8 matches. Its not matter for finish on first or second place because the six top position standings automatically qualify to knock out round and the under teams position will get playoff round match from other group.
Seems still confusing with new format but waiting when the match begin and we can see any potential top teams will face each other on group phase?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on July 22, 2024, 06:16:42 AM
With the new format of the Champions League will give other clubs a chance but clearly we already know which teams will qualify it is not much different from last season that's what I think and Real Madrid remains the most favorite.

Now for the Champions League qualifiers it's not over yet, this is a lowly team so they won't be going any further for the Champions League but they're hoping that getting into this zone will be better for them even though it will be an early exit.

There is a reason that European football is one of the world's most successful and popular sports.
UEFA has continuously evolved, adapted, and paced with wider changes in the game.
And the new format is another proof that European football is more united than ever.
Welcome to the new season UEFA Champions League 2024-2025...

Will this new format create many surprises this season? very interesting to wait for
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Roseline492 on July 22, 2024, 02:28:27 PM
There is a reason that European football is one of the world's most successful and popular sports.
UEFA has continuously evolved, adapted, and paced with wider changes in the game.
And the new format is another proof that European football is more united than ever.
Welcome to the new season UEFA Champions League 2024-2025...

Will this new format create many surprises this season? very interesting to wait for

UEFA Champions League is the best league ever, one of the things that makes it more interesting is the clubs involves because it comprises of all the best clubs from the various local leagues to face each other and of course we know what it means when champions meet each others in one particular league, so that's why no league will be able to beat champions League in terms fun and interesting.

However we should expect more surprising things on this upcoming season because is going to be one of the most challenging season ever because already all the clubs that has qualified for the champions League have already worked on there clubs hoping to get a good results this upcoming season but let's see how is going to be because there has been so many speculation of the best team that has the best performance of wining.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: giammangiato on July 22, 2024, 04:58:07 PM
..Here there will also be 8 teams that automatically qualify for the next round, while the other 16 teams must go through the play-off round which is determined based on their ranking in the standings (ranks 9 to 24).
honestly I dont know if I will like the new format and the new rules, I cant say until I see it in action and if this causes a lowering of the quality of the matches.  quantity and quality often dont go together, but we will find out soon in our tv screen :) (for me tv)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on July 22, 2024, 06:37:21 PM
It will be interesting because only the best teams will qualify to the round of 16. I like the concept because it gives room for more clubs to participate in the Champions League and who knows if the clubs on the 5th position that qualified to UCL will perform better than the clubs that was in the 3rd and 4th position. Changes is constant in life and here is one.
With the new format of the Champions League will give other clubs a chance but clearly we already know which teams will qualify it is not much different from last season that's what I think and Real Madrid remains the most favorite.

Now for the Champions League qualifiers it's not over yet, this is a lowly team so they won't be going any further for the Champions League but they're hoping that getting into this zone will be better for them even though it will be an early exit.
Yea, of course the stronger team will be the ones to qualify to the next round but at least these new teams will also have the experience of playing in the champion league and that can motivate them to retain their positions on their domestic league so that they can qualify to the champions league next two seasons and who knows if they will do better than their first time. Although, we might still see some surprises from these weak clubs that newly joined UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on July 23, 2024, 05:29:53 AM
UEFA Champions League is the best league ever, one of the things that makes it more interesting is the clubs involves because it comprises of all the best clubs from the various local leagues to face each other and of course we know what it means when champions meet each others in one particular league, so that's why no league will be able to beat champions League in terms fun and interesting.

However we should expect more surprising things on this upcoming season because is going to be one of the most challenging season ever because already all the clubs that has qualified for the champions League have already worked on there clubs hoping to get a good results this upcoming season but let's see how is going to be because there has been so many speculation of the best team that has the best performance of wining.

Yep. The UEFA Champions League is where the kings are made and become the best team in football history, The trophy every club wants.
The third qualifying round draw was held on Monday 22 July and Match dates and kick-off times are to be announced by: 26 July. Enjoy the football action!
Real Madrid is still the favorite, but who do you think will win next season?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on July 23, 2024, 08:19:30 AM
The new Champions League format will be implemented next season, there will be more teams taking part in this competition. Several leagues also have additional quotas for teams that can appear in the Champions League, one of which is the Bundesliga.

Previously, the Bundesliga only had 4 quotas for its teams to go to the Champions League, but next season they have 1 additional slot and can send 5 representatives to compete in the biggest competition in Europe.
Serie A and the Bundesliga are the ones who get the opportunity to send 5 team representatives to the UCL. In fact, you can actually get 6 slots from Serie A as long as Atalanta wins the European league and is also outside the UCL zone in the Serie A standings. but unfortunately Atalanta ended the season in 4th place which automatically means Serie A only gets 5 places.
If only at that time AS Roma could perform well at the end of the season and Bologna could also perform well so that they could be above Atalanta at the end of the season, then Serie A would place 6 representatives in the Champions League this season.

But Atalanta is so strong and better last season. They reached the final of the Copa Italia even though they had to lose to Juventus in the final match. They managed to reach the Europa League final and beat Leverkusen so they succeeded in becoming champions.
It's quite unfortunate. even though if Serie gets 6 slots then Roma can also qualify for the UCL. And in the end, Roma, as usual, could only get tickets to the European League. Roma haven't qualified for the UCL for quite a long time. Maybe in the next season with De Rossi Roma will have to fight better so they can get a ticket to the UCL. But this season's UCL with a new format will indeed make the matches even fiercer. Competition will become hotter. but I still believe Real Madrid is still the favorite in the upcoming UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: giammangiato on July 23, 2024, 05:49:04 PM
... The UEFA Champions League is where the kings are made and become the best team in football history, The trophy every club wants...
All the clubs want that damn cup, for so many valid reasons: prestige, honour, money, fame.  Everyone wants it and therefore they are committed, Real Madrid has always set the Champions League as its first objective and has never hidden this thing.  Obviously he did well.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on July 23, 2024, 11:41:12 PM
Lugano Vs Fenerbahce was quite an interesting one (3:4).
And Lugano made it Bitcoin-related by having "Lugano's Plan B" on their jerseys.
It made me google what that was all about. For all interested here's the link:
https://planb.lugano.ch/
Spoiler: Lugano wants to attract cryptocurrency and other tech start-ups to make their headquarters in their city.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on July 24, 2024, 08:23:42 AM
Lugano Vs Fenerbahce was quite an interesting one (3:4).
And Lugano made it Bitcoin-related by having "Lugano's Plan B" on their jerseys.
It made me google what that was all about. For all interested here's the link:
https://planb.lugano.ch/
Spoiler: Lugano wants to attract cryptocurrency and other tech start-ups to make their headquarters in their city.

Edin Dzeko on fire, Jose Mourinho's first win over Lugano in the 1st leg of the 2nd qualifying Champions League.
This result makes it easier for Fenerbahce in the 2nd leg because they will play at home. The special one is back.

Plan B is a strategic initiative between Lugano and Tether, and they have partnered with GoCrypto to implement the payment system in the city.
Will Lugano be The next  European Crypto Hub?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: notblox1 on July 24, 2024, 12:21:37 PM
I dont like new format of Champions league, they allowed many clubs to participate that dont deserve to he in there.
This is like hyperinflation.

Lugano Vs Fenerbahce was quite an interesting one (3:4).
And Lugano made it Bitcoin-related by having "Lugano's Plan B" on their jerseys.
I didnt know this about Lugano club, but Bitcoin is spreading everywhere in sport.
In Europa League there is club Botev Plovid and they are promoting Bitcoin on their shirts, stadium and everywhere.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Yamzakid on July 24, 2024, 12:44:48 PM
With the new format of the Champions League will give other clubs a chance but clearly we already know which teams will qualify it is not much different from last season that's what I think and Real Madrid remains the most favorite.
Yes, the new format presents a chance for other teams, but in my opinion, Real Madrid or Manchester City are the most likely to qualify because Pep Guardiola will give the Champions League more of his attention this season than the Premier League, and if you watch Manchester city games from the previous two seasons, you can see that they are a headache to real madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on July 24, 2024, 02:35:40 PM
With the new format of the Champions League will give other clubs a chance but clearly we already know which teams will qualify it is not much different from last season that's what I think and Real Madrid remains the most favorite.
Yes, the new format presents a chance for other teams, but in my opinion, Real Madrid or Manchester City are the most likely to qualify because Pep Guardiola will give the Champions League more of his attention this season than the Premier League, and if you watch Manchester city games from the previous two seasons, you can see that they are a headache to real madrid.
It seems like the rivalry between Real Madrid and Man City will continue even in the upcoming UCL. And I also still feel that the favorites for the UCL next season will still be Man City and Real Madrid, because so far these two teams still look the strongest among all the clubs. But currently Real Madrid are the favorites because now they have an additional new strength in their attack line, namely Mbappe. And I think Real Madrid is the most likely to win the title again next season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on July 24, 2024, 03:43:24 PM
Lugano Vs Fenerbahce was quite an interesting one (3:4).
And Lugano made it Bitcoin-related by having "Lugano's Plan B" on their jerseys.
It made me google what that was all about. For all interested here's the link:
https://planb.lugano.ch/
Spoiler: Lugano wants to attract cryptocurrency and other tech start-ups to make their headquarters in their city.


all of Switzerland is pro cryptocurrencies, starting from the citizens and ending with the banks who have understood that cryptocurrencies are the next evolution they have to face
I find this evaluation interesting
not to mention that for years it has been possible to pay taxes in bitcoin and ethereum in a simple, immediate and transparent way!
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Yamzakid on July 24, 2024, 04:20:12 PM
With the new format of the Champions League will give other clubs a chance but clearly we already know which teams will qualify it is not much different from last season that's what I think and Real Madrid remains the most favorite.
Yes, the new format presents a chance for other teams, but in my opinion, Real Madrid or Manchester City are the most likely to qualify because Pep Guardiola will give the Champions League more of his attention this season than the Premier League, and if you watch Manchester city games from the previous two seasons, you can see that they are a headache to real madrid.
It seems like the rivalry between Real Madrid and Man City will continue even in the upcoming UCL. And I also still feel that the favorites for the UCL next season will still be Man City and Real Madrid, because so far these two teams still look the strongest among all the clubs. But currently Real Madrid are the favorites because now they have an additional new strength in their attack line, namely Mbappe. And I think Real Madrid is the most likely to win the title again next season.

Madrid had better players previous season, and their match against Manchester City was a terrible match for Real Madrid, even though Madrid qualified, and their winning in that match was a narrow escape. I accept that Mbappe in the means of Madrid players again will make a lot of changes since he's the kind of player who puts fear in the minds of opponents, but we need to understand that he cannot do it alone, especially if they want to play against Manchester City.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: giammangiato on July 24, 2024, 05:58:07 PM
I dont like new format of Champions league, they allowed many clubs to participate that dont deserve to he in there..
I am still trying to understand how it works, honestly I also see it as an inflationary way to sell more games to TV and to push them to us by obviously making us pay their weight in gold.
Not if all these matches will end up making me bored so I still see how it plays out, but I am starting to not like it very much.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on July 24, 2024, 06:16:15 PM
If only at that time AS Roma could perform well at the end of the season and Bologna could also perform well so that they could be above Atalanta at the end of the season, then Serie A would place 6 representatives in the Champions League this season.

But Atalanta is so strong and better last season. They reached the final of the Copa Italia even though they had to lose to Juventus in the final match. They managed to reach the Europa League final and beat Leverkusen so they succeeded in becoming champions.
It's quite unfortunate. even though if Serie gets 6 slots then Roma can also qualify for the UCL. And in the end, Roma, as usual, could only get tickets to the European League. Roma haven't qualified for the UCL for quite a long time. Maybe in the next season with De Rossi Roma will have to fight better so they can get a ticket to the UCL. But this season's UCL with a new format will indeed make the matches even fiercer. Competition will become hotter. but I still believe Real Madrid is still the favorite in the upcoming UCL.
Yes, they haven't been in the Champions League for a long time, almost every season they fail to get tickets to go there, both from their failure in Serie A and their failure in the Europa League final.

Next season they have to try harder to win a ticket to the Champions League. I'm sure they can do it as long as they can maintain a balance to play well and consistently throughout the season. Last season, one of the factors that prevented them from qualifying for the Champions League was their lack of consistency.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Roseline492 on July 24, 2024, 06:19:27 PM
I dont like new format of Champions league, they allowed many clubs to participate that dont deserve to he in there.
This is like hyperinflation.

The new format is not actually bad after all because since they understand how strong most clubs is on there league that always makes them to qualifying for the champions League every season without giving other clubs a chance to also showcase there performance, this new format will certainly give other clubs a chance because for several seasons now it has been almost the same clubs all the time.

So actually I think this format will likely make the champions League more interesting because we would be expecting new things from the new players, actually if we think about it on this direction it will certainly help the smaller clubs to improve on there performance, though even with the new format it will not prevent the bigger teams from performing the way they normally do.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on July 24, 2024, 06:35:22 PM
..Here there will also be 8 teams that automatically qualify for the next round, while the other 16 teams must go through the play-off round which is determined based on their ranking in the standings (ranks 9 to 24).
honestly I dont know if I will like the new format and the new rules, I cant say until I see it in action and if this causes a lowering of the quality of the matches.  quantity and quality often dont go together, but we will find out soon in our tv screen :) (for me tv)
You, I and all of us don't know yet whether with this new format there will be a more competitive presentation or whether everything will actually experience a decrease in competitive level.

This is our first season to see the format of the competition change after we have been in the old format for many years. Many people also question this, what we can do is hope that with this new format we will see more competitive competition or at least the competition will remain like the previous season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on July 25, 2024, 04:13:08 PM
I dont like new format of Champions league, they allowed many clubs to participate that dont deserve to he in there.
This is like hyperinflation.
I see some people also don't like UCL new format, they think it has too many matches. However, we can't judge it too early, let's see the new season begins firstly. Regarding there are teams which don't deserve to join UCL, I think it can be our own perception only. Every team joins UCL, they must be selected and qualified through trusted approach.

Manchester City are the most likely to qualify because Pep Guardiola will give the Champions League more of his attention this season than the Premier League, and if you watch Manchester city games from the previous two seasons, you can see that they are a headache to real madrid.
Guardiola must expect to win UCL, but it seems harder to win it because Real Madrid looks stronger. Meanwhile Man City is no longer as strong as in the season 2022-2023. Some players left Man City, the last rumor De Bruyne may leave Man City to Saudi league. If it happens, I think it will bring big impacts to Man City game.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: giammangiato on July 26, 2024, 04:58:06 PM
This is our first season to see the format of the competition change after we have been in the old format for many years. Many people also question this, what we can do is hope that with this new format we will see more competitive competition or at least the competition will remain like the previous season.
True you are right about it, it is still the first season in which we are facing this change and we cannot decide whether we like it or not at the beginning of this new format.
However, I am already perplexed now, I will be able to say better when the season is over obviously.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on July 26, 2024, 08:27:57 PM
..Here there will also be 8 teams that automatically qualify for the next round, while the other 16 teams must go through the play-off round which is determined based on their ranking in the standings (ranks 9 to 24).
honestly I dont know if I will like the new format and the new rules, I cant say until I see it in action and if this causes a lowering of the quality of the matches.  quantity and quality often dont go together, but we will find out soon in our tv screen :) (for me tv)
You, I and all of us don't know yet whether with this new format there will be a more competitive presentation or whether everything will actually experience a decrease in competitive level.

This is our first season to see the format of the competition change after we have been in the old format for many years. Many people also question this, what we can do is hope that with this new format we will see more competitive competition or at least the competition will remain like the previous season.
I think the discontent is general because we basically like games that are of very high quality where there are strong emotions, and well, if we look at it from the point of view that we will see more football, yes, it is a fact, that sometimes the teams have bad times, crises and that can affect their way of playing, yes, but it must be considered that with the normal format, not the new one, it was much better, well let's hope that the more football, the more bets, the more fun.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on July 27, 2024, 07:47:09 AM
I dont like new format of Champions league, they allowed many clubs to participate that dont deserve to he in there..
I am still trying to understand how it works, honestly I also see it as an inflationary way to sell more games to TV and to push them to us by obviously making us pay their weight in gold.
Not if all these matches will end up making me bored so I still see how it plays out, but I am starting to not like it very much.

The new format will be less jeopardy for the big hitters because the top 24 teams will all progress to the knockout stage.
And the new format also makes more games, More games mean more money, both for UEFA and the clubs involved.
So this is about money. Quality, Sportifity, yes they are important but in the football industry, money is everything
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on July 27, 2024, 02:32:03 PM
This is our first season to see the format of the competition change after we have been in the old format for many years. Many people also question this, what we can do is hope that with this new format we will see more competitive competition or at least the competition will remain like the previous season.
True you are right about it, it is still the first season in which we are facing this change and we cannot decide whether we like it or not at the beginning of this new format.
However, I am already perplexed now, I will be able to say better when the season is over obviously.
At first I was also confused with this existing format, but after reading about the new format that will be used, I became more open and began to understand it slowly.

The quite clear difference is actually in the early stages, where we will see only one standings table and we will get 8 teams that qualify for the next round and 16 teams in the standings will play a play-off match. After that, everything goes as usual.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on August 10, 2024, 02:28:52 PM
Now the Champions League is playing the qualifying round to compete for the remaining 7 places in this season. Several teams are fighting to be able to really win the place.

One of them is Fenerbahce who is still fighting to be able to be in the play off round. now they are in the 3rd round and facing Lille from France, in the first leg they were 2-1 behind. This is a pressure for them because in the second leg they must be able to win by at least 2 goals to be in the playoff round. or at least they can win 1 goal to bring the match to extra time and penalties.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on August 14, 2024, 09:40:57 PM
Champions League winners are currently playing against the winners of the Europa League. Real Madrid started brightly, looked sharp, but Atalanta have defended very well to stop Mbappe from scoring an early goal in his debut for Real Madrid. Atalanta have had some good chances too, but Real Madrid's defense is not easy to breakdown.\

Some few minutes to the end of the first Half, no goals yet.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on August 14, 2024, 09:43:54 PM
Champions League winners are currently playing against the winners of the Europa League. Real Madrid started brightly, looked sharp, but Atalanta have defended very well to stop Mbappe from scoring an early goal in his debut for Real Madrid. Atalanta have had some good chances too, but Real Madrid's defense is not easy to breakdown.\

Some few minutes to the end of the first Half, no goals yet.
Both teams seemed to play more carefully in this first half. And the match was quite boring. Initially I thought both teams would immediately play aggressively from the start but it seems my guess was wrong. but I was quite surprised because Atalanta could also match Real Madrid well. And Real Madrid is also still having difficulty penetrating Atalanta's defense. In the second half, maybe the fun will only begin. Because in the first half the two teams were just testing each other's strengths and trying to observe the opponents' weaknesses. So that in the second half all teams will have finished analyzing and a better strategy will definitely be used. But if it turns out that in the second half the match is still running the same as in the first half then it looks like this match will not be as lively as we expected.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on August 14, 2024, 09:56:49 PM
Honestly, seeing Atalanta losing so many awesome players, and still end up being drawn at the half against Real Madrid with Mbappe added to last season? That seems like its impossible for something like this to make sense to me and yet Atalanta is raelly doing very well, should be somethign that will get great and we are going to see this to grow as much as we are going to see this become a very good game unless something changes. I hope that no team scores a lot right back to back, its going to be good till the end.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Salahmu on August 14, 2024, 10:22:07 PM
Champions League winners are currently playing against the winners of the Europa League. Real Madrid started brightly, looked sharp, but Atalanta have defended very well to stop Mbappe from scoring an early goal in his debut for Real Madrid. Atalanta have had some good chances too, but Real Madrid's defense is not easy to breakdown.\

Some few minutes to the end of the first Half, no goals yet.

Yeah Atalanta defense is very strong on this match and I love the way they comport themselves on this match against real Madrid, actually looking at the performance of Atalanta you will see that they really understand the play pattern of real Madrid that is why in as much as real Madrid is dominating on that match but they find it very difficult to penetrate Atalanta.

So actually before real Madrid will win Atalanta on this match they would need to identify there weak point and use it against them because if they failed to improve on the second half that means they may likely end up playing draw, actually Atalanta is not doing bad at all on this match because non of real Madrid fans will believe that Atalanta has the performance to wage real and draw the first half.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on August 14, 2024, 11:27:50 PM
So actually before real Madrid will win Atalanta on this match they would need to identify there weak point and use it against them because if they failed to improve on the second half that means they may likely end up playing draw, actually Atalanta is not doing bad at all on this match because non of real Madrid fans will believe that Atalanta has the performance to wage real and draw the first half.
It was quite unbelievable to many of us that Atalanta were able to hold off Real Madrid with a very good attacking force for so long, even into the second half. Vinicius cut the defender off and beat him with his quick feet and pace. The goal really discouraged the Atalanta team, dropped their morale a bit and gave Real Madrid something to capitalize on because they had lots of chances that followed immediately after they scored the first goal.

Real Madrid wins the super cup.
Mbappe scores on his debut and wins first trophy with Real Madrid.
Endrick has something to smile about too.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on August 14, 2024, 11:52:57 PM
So actually before real Madrid will win Atalanta on this match they would need to identify there weak point and use it against them because if they failed to improve on the second half that means they may likely end up playing draw, actually Atalanta is not doing bad at all on this match because non of real Madrid fans will believe that Atalanta has the performance to wage real and draw the first half.
It was quite unbelievable to many of us that Atalanta were able to hold off Real Madrid with a very good attacking force for so long, even into the second half. Vinicius cut the defender off and beat him with his quick feet and pace. The goal really discouraged the Atalanta team, dropped their morale a bit and gave Real Madrid something to capitalize on because they had lots of chances that followed immediately after they scored the first goal.

Real Madrid wins the super cup.
Mbappe scores on his debut and wins first trophy with Real Madrid.
Endrick has something to smile about too.
Atalanta only tried  their best in the first half but they were unable to penetrate Madrid's defense. It was during the second half that Real Na did showed Atalanta what they are made of, because it was easy for them to score two goals with many lost chances that was supposed to be converted to a goal. Mbappe must be very happy for finding the back of the net when the chance came. That shows that he is a good striker. With this current Real Madrid squad, it will be a problem for any team that they clash with.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on August 15, 2024, 12:10:48 PM
Yeah Atalanta defense is very strong on this match and I love the way they comport themselves on this match against real Madrid, actually looking at the performance of Atalanta you will see that they really understand the play pattern of real Madrid that is why in as much as real Madrid is dominating on that match but they find it very difficult to penetrate Atalanta.

So actually before real Madrid will win Atalanta on this match they would need to identify there weak point and use it against them because if they failed to improve on the second half that means they may likely end up playing draw, actually Atalanta is not doing bad at all on this match because non of real Madrid fans will believe that Atalanta has the performance to wage real and draw the first half.
Atalanta's defense on the first half very strong after Real Madrid getting difficult make any attempt yet, on the first half Madrid only has one attempt but on second half sems easily for Real Madrid get scoring two goals.
First goal how brilliant skill from Vinicius Jr easily give assist for Valverde for scoring goal and the same scheme for second goals score by Kylian Mbappe.

Nice debut for Klyan Mbappe although not playing until 90 minutes but success scoring his first goal and winning his UEFA Super Cup trophy. Its more confidence for Madrid get prepare to Champion League match although more than several month later and Atalanta still need to improve their performance exactly with defense.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: giammangiato on August 15, 2024, 12:41:05 PM
Atalanta only tried  their best in the first half but they were unable to penetrate Madrid..

Obviously I had no doubts that Real Madrid would win but since I am Italian I supported Atalanta. Obviously Real Madrid is a stone crusher, he destroys everything and breaks everything.
In fact they only lost 2 to 0, so all in all it wasnt a bad performance.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on August 15, 2024, 04:30:52 PM
Atalanta only tried  their best in the first half but they were unable to penetrate Madrid..

Obviously I had no doubts that Real Madrid would win but since I am Italian I supported Atalanta. Obviously Real Madrid is a stone crusher, he destroys everything and breaks everything.
In fact they only lost 2 to 0, so all in all it wasnt a bad performance.
Atalanta tried to hold off every attack made by Real Madrid, but their strength in the back line was not enough to be able to survive without conceding against Real Madrid's frightening attack line.

Overall this was a result that could have been predicted before and Real Madrid could do it very well. Atalanta was actually not that disappointing, it's just that the opponent they faced was not a weak team, but a team that was ready to dominate Europe.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on August 15, 2024, 07:14:25 PM

Overall this was a result that could have been predicted before and Real Madrid could do it very well. Atalanta was actually not that disappointing, it's just that the opponent they faced was not a weak team, but a team that was ready to dominate Europe.

I thought Atalanta would play in defense with 10 players, as everyone does when they play against the strongest team in the world, but I'm wrong, Atalanta played very well.
For the fans of Atalanta, losing any final isn’t nice. but I'm pretty sure they enjoyed every second of the match.
And it's great to see an ex-Everton, Ben Godfrey make his debut playing in a final like this, he playing well and working hard.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on August 15, 2024, 09:59:13 PM
Nice debut for Klyan Mbappe although not playing until 90 minutes but success scoring his first goal and winning his UEFA Super Cup trophy. Its more confidence for Madrid get prepare to Champion League match although more than several month later and Atalanta still need to improve their performance exactly with defense.
Last season, Real Madrid were tactically brilliant, that is why they were able to beat Manchester City. This season, they have better squad depth and still maintain their tactical brilliance. They have improved a step further from last season, which will make them even more formidable in the Champions League this new season. I do not see any other team even Pep's Manchester City being able to take the Champions League away form them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on August 15, 2024, 10:12:32 PM

Overall this was a result that could have been predicted before and Real Madrid could do it very well. Atalanta was actually not that disappointing, it's just that the opponent they faced was not a weak team, but a team that was ready to dominate Europe.

I thought Atalanta would play in defense with 10 players, as everyone does when they play against the strongest team in the world, but I'm wrong, Atalanta played very well.
For the fans of Atalanta, losing any final isn’t nice. but I'm pretty sure they enjoyed every second of the match.
And it's great to see an ex-Everton, Ben Godfrey make his debut playing in a final like this, he playing well and working hard.
Atalanta tried very well yesterday for not conceding a goal in the first half. They could not understand Real Madrid game in the second half which made it uneasy for them to hold down Real Madrid like they disc in the second half. However, I was not surprised at their defeat because that was what I was expecting but for them to play impressive was what I did not expect.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: MainIbem on August 15, 2024, 10:45:15 PM
Atalanta tried very well yesterday for not conceding a goal in the first half. They could not understand Real Madrid game in the second half which made it uneasy for them to hold down Real Madrid like they disc in the second half. However, I was not surprised at their defeat because that was what I was expecting but for them to play impressive was what I did not expect.

Yeah they really tried, I was impressed with their performance, they showed same energy as when they played the Europa Cup final against Leverkusen, just that Madrid was greater when it comes to quality players and that's what they used in defeating Atalanta yesterday, even though Atalanta showed that they're capable of playing against Madrid I didn't expect them to win against a squad that has Vinicius Jr, Jude Bellingham, Rodrygo and Kylian Mbappé. But they really tried to hold them in the 1st half and had some good chances, atleast they've shown that there's hope for them in getting past the group stage and even if they don't they'll go into the Europa and do better.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on August 15, 2024, 11:18:25 PM
Now the Champions League is playing the qualifying round to compete for the remaining 7 places in this season. Several teams are fighting to be able to really win the place.
The qualifying round is over and now we are just waiting for the play-off round. There are some familiar names in this squad and there is a possibility that they will enter. Examples are: Galatasaray and LOSC.

Atalanta tried very well yesterday for not conceding a goal in the first half. They could not understand Real Madrid game in the second half which made it uneasy for them to hold down Real Madrid like they disc in the second half. However, I was not surprised at their defeat because that was what I was expecting but for them to play impressive was what I did not expect.
Yes, however, in the first half, Atalanta had shown their best effort by holding off various attacks from Real Madrid's attackers who were very sharp. However, in the second leg, Real Madrid were more aggressive and their movements were much faster to make Atalanta's defense more open. Well, however, both of them had tried very well. And Real Madrid becoming the champion of the UEFA Super Cup was not surprising.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 16, 2024, 03:11:44 AM
Atalanta only tried  their best in the first half but they were unable to penetrate Madrid..

Obviously I had no doubts that Real Madrid would win but since I am Italian I supported Atalanta. Obviously Real Madrid is a stone crusher, he destroys everything and breaks everything.
In fact they only lost 2 to 0, so all in all it wasnt a bad performance.
Atalanta tried to hold off every attack made by Real Madrid, but their strength in the back line was not enough to be able to survive without conceding against Real Madrid's frightening attack line.

Overall this was a result that could have been predicted before and Real Madrid could do it very well. Atalanta was actually not that disappointing, it's just that the opponent they faced was not a weak team, but a team that was ready to dominate Europe.

To be honest, I expected a lot less from Atalanta, but I was very surprised. They played like they played against Leverkusen in the final and I really liked that because they have kept that style of play intact, Of course , they have certain vulnerabilities , which they have to correct if they want to shine more, but in general terms I see them as much better than some other teams that also have a high level. If this team gets better, I think it will be a thorn in the side of Many.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on August 16, 2024, 11:48:08 AM
Atalanta tried very well yesterday for not conceding a goal in the first half. They could not understand Real Madrid game in the second half which made it uneasy for them to hold down Real Madrid like they disc in the second half. However, I was not surprised at their defeat because that was what I was expecting but for them to play impressive was what I did not expect.

Yeah they really tried, I was impressed with their performance, they showed same energy as when they played the Europa Cup final against Leverkusen, just that Madrid was greater when it comes to quality players and that's what they used in defeating Atalanta yesterday, even though Atalanta showed that they're capable of playing against Madrid I didn't expect them to win against a squad that has Vinicius Jr, Jude Bellingham, Rodrygo and Kylian Mbappé. But they really tried to hold them in the 1st half and had some good chances, atleast they've shown that there's hope for them in getting past the group stage and even if they don't they'll go into the Europa and do better.

Quality Both teams' Players are Very Different. Collectively Atalanta was better than Madrid, even though Atalanta is an Italian team, they played like men and did not defend, and They did everything they could but the quality of the individual players took over with the slightest mistake.
Real Madrid wins on the pitch, but Atalanta fans win off the pitch. They create a fantastic atmosphere. Yea the fans showed out
All the best for Atalanta in the new season in the League
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Yamzakid on August 16, 2024, 02:35:52 PM
Atlanta performed well in the first half, and the second half came out as I predicted it because I knew Real Madrid would do anything necessary to win the match. The match was a fantastic honor for Kylian Mbappe because it was his first match, and he scored a goal and lifted a trophy. I believe this is a terrific start for him and a nice performance for other players too.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on August 16, 2024, 02:44:16 PM
Atalanta tried to hold off every attack made by Real Madrid, but their strength in the back line was not enough to be able to survive without conceding against Real Madrid's frightening attack line.

Overall this was a result that could have been predicted before and Real Madrid could do it very well. Atalanta was actually not that disappointing, it's just that the opponent they faced was not a weak team, but a team that was ready to dominate Europe.

To be honest, I expected a lot less from Atalanta, but I was very surprised. They played like they played against Leverkusen in the final and I really liked that because they have kept that style of play intact, Of course , they have certain vulnerabilities , which they have to correct if they want to shine more, but in general terms I see them as much better than some other teams that also have a high level. If this team gets better, I think it will be a thorn in the side of Many.
If they can maintain and improve it to be even better, then it is not impossible that they will become a very dangerous team in the Champions League. Atalanta has the capital for that, they just need to improve it again.

They are not a team that is much talked about, but after last season, they are worth considering. We will see how far they can develop and provide decent competition in the Champions League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on August 16, 2024, 04:47:44 PM
Since your favorite top leagues will be starting with the 2024-2025 season soon, why don't we start placing our vote for this season's winner? The usual favorites are there on the list but feel free to mention if your team is not there.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on August 17, 2024, 02:22:04 PM
Since your favorite top leagues will be starting with the 2024-2025 season soon, why don't we start placing our vote for this season's winner? The usual favorites are there on the list but feel free to mention if your team is not there.
No need to rush, we are still in the first week so it will still take a very long time so we can see who has a big chance based on their performance this season.

From the beginning there were definitely favorites, but sometimes they had difficulties and did not meet expectations. It also takes time to see how they really are, because the first 1 or 2 games usually they are still finding their game form.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on August 17, 2024, 07:04:59 PM
Since your favorite top leagues will be starting with the 2024-2025 season soon, why don't we start placing our vote for this season's winner? The usual favorites are there on the list but feel free to mention if your team is not there.
Polls are locked why don't you open them? So that others can vote for their favorite team.

Inter Milan not in the poll? I think this team has a lot of fans especially for Serie A lovers.

I will vote for Real Madrid after seeing their squad now with Mbappe.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on August 20, 2024, 11:40:01 PM
If they can maintain and improve it to be even better, then it is not impossible that they will become a very dangerous team in the Champions League. Atalanta has the capital for that, they just need to improve it again.
Indeed, they must, ya, they must do more efforts and consistency in order to be able to compete very well in UCL, because, all clubs are here selected from top clubs in each league. Atalanta, made not much changes in their squad, so their solidity should be change very much.

Anyway, now, we have started leg 1 play-off Champions League.
From some of those that have played, LOSC caught my attention.

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/08/20/71nPm.png)
Goolge/losc-vs-slavia-praha

LOSC won 3 - 0
So I am very sure that they will win, because in the second leg, their opponent, Slavia Praha must score at least 3 goals without reply, or even more if they want to secure their position and enter the qualification. But it seems like this will be difficult. Because LOSC is currently quite good in their progress, as well as their performance progress in Ligue 1.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on August 20, 2024, 11:57:35 PM
Since your favorite top leagues will be starting with the 2024-2025 season soon, why don't we start placing our vote for this season's winner? The usual favorites are there on the list but feel free to mention if your team is not there.
Polls are locked why don't you open them? So that others can vote for their favorite team.

Inter Milan not in the poll? I think this team has a lot of fans especially for Serie A lovers.

I will vote for Real Madrid after seeing their squad now with Mbappe.
Real Madrid has the highest odds of winning the league amd they are the favorite because last season hey won it without Mbappe and now that Mbappe is in the team, it will be difficult for them to be kicked out by any team. I don't know how it will happen but I know that Real Madrid will still win UCL again this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on August 21, 2024, 09:52:32 AM
Real Madrid has the highest odds of winning the league amd they are the favorite because last season hey won it without Mbappe and now that Mbappe is in the team, it will be difficult for them to be kicked out by any team. I don't know how it will happen but I know that Real Madrid will still win UCL again this season.

The champions are always the favorites :) and Madrid still has great players and a team.
But change is healthy and healthy completion is what we need now and we can enjoy the show.
Beyond that, this cup deserves only hardworking players and teams.
I'm intrigued to see how this new format works out.
So take some time and relax... The Champions League is gonna be on fire
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Yamzakid on August 21, 2024, 12:21:48 PM
I don't know how it will happen but I know that Real Madrid will still win UCL again this season.

Do you think Pep Guardiola will give Ancelotti that opportunity this season? To me, Manchester City have a great probability of winning the UCL this season. Kylian Mbappe can't perform every job on the field for Real Madrid, he's only good at scoring, and if Manchester City puts in the same effort they did with Real Madrid last season, I'm confident the league will be theirs.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on August 21, 2024, 01:20:03 PM
If they can maintain and improve it to be even better, then it is not impossible that they will become a very dangerous team in the Champions League. Atalanta has the capital for that, they just need to improve it again.
Indeed, they must, ya, they must do more efforts and consistency in order to be able to compete very well in UCL, because, all clubs are here selected from top clubs in each league. Atalanta, made not much changes in their squad, so their solidity should be change very much.

Anyway, now, we have started leg 1 play-off Champions League.
From some of those that have played, LOSC caught my attention.

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/08/20/71nPm.png)
Goolge/losc-vs-slavia-praha

LOSC won 3 - 0
So I am very sure that they will win, because in the second leg, their opponent, Slavia Praha must score at least 3 goals without reply, or even more if they want to secure their position and enter the qualification. But it seems like this will be difficult. Because LOSC is currently quite good in their progress, as well as their performance progress in Ligue 1.
LOSC has a very good capital for them to be in the Champions League with the victory they achieved in the first leg. Slavia Praha must pursue the aggregate goal in the second leg later.

However, LOSC must still be careful in the second leg later, because I am sure Slavia Praha will play as well as possible and they will come out more attacking to catch up on the deficit they received in the first leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 22, 2024, 05:56:37 PM
I don't know how it will happen but I know that Real Madrid will still win UCL again this season.

Do you think Pep Guardiola will give Ancelotti that opportunity this season? To me, Manchester City have a great probability of winning the UCL this season. Kylian Mbappe can't perform every job on the field for Real Madrid, he's only good at scoring, and if Manchester City puts in the same effort they did with Real Madrid last season, I'm confident the league will be theirs.
I see it as very difficult for City to take the title from Madrid, now Madrid has very good players, and for me with the help of a player with the characteristics of Mbappé it will be much harder, also I think that Ancelotti gave Pep a lesson when they played only defensively, like a good Italian he showed him that Madrid is multifaceted, they can not only play attack, counterattack, when they say they are playing defensively they are a wall, now if they play the same leaving Mbappé alone in point who when he runs leaves everyone in his way, it will be more interesting
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on August 22, 2024, 07:16:31 PM
I don't know how it will happen but I know that Real Madrid will still win UCL again this season.

Do you think Pep Guardiola will give Ancelotti that opportunity this season? To me, Manchester City have a great probability of winning the UCL this season. Kylian Mbappe can't perform every job on the field for Real Madrid, he's only good at scoring, and if Manchester City puts in the same effort they did with Real Madrid last season, I'm confident the league will be theirs.
I see it as very difficult for City to take the title from Madrid, now Madrid has very good players, and for me with the help of a player with the characteristics of Mbappé it will be much harder, also I think that Ancelotti gave Pep a lesson when they played only defensively, like a good Italian he showed him that Madrid is multifaceted, they can not only play attack, counterattack, when they say they are playing defensively they are a wall, now if they play the same leaving Mbappé alone in point who when he runs leaves everyone in his way, it will be more interesting
Most good coaches knows that the best way to play City is using a defensive method and counter attack, because Pep football pattern is a dominating one and if you feel that you are strong, before you know it they will penetrate your defense because they will always dominate the game and there is nothing you can do to stop them. This was the lesson that Ancelotti learned from his mistakes last two season when he lost to Pep in the semifinals. Arsenal coach also showed Ancelotti how to play City and draw the match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on August 22, 2024, 07:30:52 PM
Most good coaches knows that the best way to play City is using a defensive method and counter attack, because Pep football pattern is a dominating one and if you feel that you are strong, before you know it they will penetrate your defense because they will always dominate the game and there is nothing you can do to stop them. This was the lesson that Ancelotti learned from his mistakes last two season when he lost to Pep in the semifinals. Arsenal coach also showed Ancelotti how to play City and draw the match.
But the method shown by Arsenal last season was actually much more effective because Arsenal beat Man City several times last season. So the strategy used by Arteta is quite good, but that's only in the domestic league. But Ancelotti and Real Madrid know better the strategies that can be used to beat all the clubs they face. That is the strength of Ancelotti. And yes, he always learns from mistakes and corrects them in the following season. So Real Madrid finally won the title again in the UCL last season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on August 23, 2024, 02:59:39 PM
Most good coaches knows that the best way to play City is using a defensive method and counter attack, because Pep football pattern is a dominating one and if you feel that you are strong, before you know it they will penetrate your defense because they will always dominate the game and there is nothing you can do to stop them. This was the lesson that Ancelotti learned from his mistakes last two season when he lost to Pep in the semifinals. Arsenal coach also showed Ancelotti how to play City and draw the match.
But the method shown by Arsenal last season was actually much more effective because Arsenal beat Man City several times last season. So the strategy used by Arteta is quite good, but that's only in the domestic league. But Ancelotti and Real Madrid know better the strategies that can be used to beat all the clubs they face. That is the strength of Ancelotti. And yes, he always learns from mistakes and corrects them in the following season. So Real Madrid finally won the title again in the UCL last season.
Each coach has their own strategy to face a team that is considered very strong, they might learn from other teams and adopt the strategy they use. But will it work like before? I don't think so.

They will also definitely adjust based on the squad they have, and they will also give a little touch based on their respective strategies. The same strategy carried out by two different coaches does not guarantee the same thing will happen.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: debra on August 23, 2024, 04:06:14 PM
I see it as very difficult for City to take the title from Madrid, now Madrid has very good players, and for me with the help of a player with the characteristics of Mbappé it will be much harder, also I think that Ancelotti gave Pep a lesson when they played only defensively, like a good Italian he showed him that Madrid is multifaceted, they can not only play attack, counterattack, when they say they are playing defensively they are a wall, now if they play the same leaving Mbappé alone in point who when he runs leaves everyone in his way, it will be more interesting
Even if Real Madrid has many good players, it doesn't guarantee Real Madrid to play better this season. You must watch their first match in La Liga, they got a surprising result against Mallorca. They got a draw result against a small team in La Liga, it is not impossible if Man City can defeat them in UCL. Mbappe seems to take time to adjust to Real Madrid's game style. Considering the match against Mallorca, it won't be easy for Mbappe to play with his best with Real Madrid.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on August 23, 2024, 11:59:14 PM
Each coach has their own strategy to face a team that is considered very strong, they might learn from other teams and adopt the strategy they use. But will it work like before? I don't think so.
Yep. Every coach has own tactics, specifically when playing against a strong team. Mostly the coach will prefer to play a more defensive if he will face a stronger team. Whether it will work well or not, it purely depends on the performance of the players in the field. Arteta looks having good strategy when they play against Man City. This also can be applied when Arsenal will play against a stronger team in UCL matches.

They will also definitely adjust based on the squad they have, and they will also give a little touch based on their respective strategies. The same strategy carried out by two different coaches does not guarantee the same thing will happen.
If you refer this to Arsenal team, I think Arsenal has great squad. Arteta has quality players in their squad, so it won't be difficult to deal with a strong team like Man City or Real Madrid. But Arteta needs to ensure that Arsenal players having good mentality. This sometimes has a bigger role in a big match.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on August 24, 2024, 01:23:38 PM
Each coach has their own strategy to face a team that is considered very strong, they might learn from other teams and adopt the strategy they use. But will it work like before? I don't think so.
Yep. Every coach has own tactics, specifically when playing against a strong team. Mostly the coach will prefer to play a more defensive if he will face a stronger team. Whether it will work well or not, it purely depends on the performance of the players in the field. Arteta looks having good strategy when they play against Man City. This also can be applied when Arsenal will play against a stronger team in UCL matches.

They will also definitely adjust based on the squad they have, and they will also give a little touch based on their respective strategies. The same strategy carried out by two different coaches does not guarantee the same thing will happen.
If you refer this to Arsenal team, I think Arsenal has great squad. Arteta has quality players in their squad, so it won't be difficult to deal with a strong team like Man City or Real Madrid. But Arteta needs to ensure that Arsenal players having good mentality. This sometimes has a bigger role in a big match.
Well, a good mentality is also really needed, it's useless for them to have a luxurious squad but they don't have the mentality. At first glance, it has no direct connection to the game, but psychology works in situations like this.

If they go down to the field to win the game, then that will be good for them. But if they go down to the field with a pessimistic feeling, that's what will have a bad impact on their mentality.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on August 26, 2024, 12:24:36 PM
Well, a good mentality is also really needed, it's useless for them to have a luxurious squad but they don't have the mentality. At first glance, it has no direct connection to the game, but psychology works in situations like this.

If they go down to the field to win the game, then that will be good for them. But if they go down to the field with a pessimistic feeling, that's what will have a bad impact on their mentality.
So true. And actually the biggest concern and weakness in the Arsenal squad is not in the depth of the squad or in the strategy that Arteta uses for the team. But Arsenal's weakness in the last few seasons lies in the mentality of their players themselves. Everything has been proven in several seasons where Arsenal are only able to play well in the domestic league but in big competitions like the UCL they always lose their best performance. As if they weren't a strong team. Even though they should be able to play with the same quality as Man City.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on August 26, 2024, 07:42:47 PM
Well, a good mentality is also really needed, it's useless for them to have a luxurious squad but they don't have the mentality. At first glance, it has no direct connection to the game, but psychology works in situations like this.

If they go down to the field to win the game, then that will be good for them. But if they go down to the field with a pessimistic feeling, that's what will have a bad impact on their mentality.
So true. And actually the biggest concern and weakness in the Arsenal squad is not in the depth of the squad or in the strategy that Arteta uses for the team. But Arsenal's weakness in the last few seasons lies in the mentality of their players themselves. Everything has been proven in several seasons where Arsenal are only able to play well in the domestic league but in big competitions like the UCL they always lose their best performance. As if they weren't a strong team. Even though they should be able to play with the same quality as Man City.
City is a club that has no fear and wl not panic when playing in UCL with big clubs because the players and coach have the zeal to brk g home the trophy and that is what motivates them. I don't knowable why Arsenal is finding it difficult to understand how to play their opponents in UCL. Maybe it is because they are not use to playing a club from differenteague, it shows that they are weak and only strong with clubs that they are used to in the same league with them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on August 27, 2024, 12:03:25 AM
So I've just learned that the group stage of the UCL will be replaced by the new format, the League stage:
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-ne/
with similar changes done to the Europa League and the Conference League.

What's the community consensus on those changes? Do you think it's a step in the right direction? I have mixed feelings about this.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on August 28, 2024, 12:23:33 AM
I guess we won't see any Turkish teams in the Champions League this season. First, Fenerbahce got eliminated by Lille, and today Galatasaray failed to win against the Swiss champions, Young Boys.
As much as Lille is a strong team from the top of the French league, one of the strongest in Europe, you would expect more from Galatasaray against YB. Galatasaray dominated the league last season, scoring an impressive 102 points, but tonight, they were unable to do anything and the game must've been a disappointment for the Turkish fans.
Something bad happened to Turkish football over the recent years, it could be that due to tough economic situation in the country (high inflation and all that) clubs got poorer and can't attract or retain talented players.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on August 28, 2024, 01:11:58 AM
It is seriously humiliating that we couldn't beat a team that is quarter of our value, and the amount of money we spend just to lose to them is insane when you look at the salaries of both teams and how much money they spend on transfers as well. The reality is that we built a team just for champions league, and we failed to even go there, which means that we spent money that we will not be getting. Galatasaray is a much better team than this and I have no idea why we sucked so badly for both games, don't be fooled by the two goals, that was unexpected, this game we looked like the game could be 5 hours long and we would still not score. Such a terrible game, such a terrible result.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on August 28, 2024, 02:19:48 PM
Well, a good mentality is also really needed, it's useless for them to have a luxurious squad but they don't have the mentality. At first glance, it has no direct connection to the game, but psychology works in situations like this.

If they go down to the field to win the game, then that will be good for them. But if they go down to the field with a pessimistic feeling, that's what will have a bad impact on their mentality.
So true. And actually the biggest concern and weakness in the Arsenal squad is not in the depth of the squad or in the strategy that Arteta uses for the team. But Arsenal's weakness in the last few seasons lies in the mentality of their players themselves. Everything has been proven in several seasons where Arsenal are only able to play well in the domestic league but in big competitions like the UCL they always lose their best performance. As if they weren't a strong team. Even though they should be able to play with the same quality as Man City.
In the last 2 seasons that I have seen, they always lose their balance when the competition is at the end of the season, that is what ultimately makes them fail to get something very big.

Now I want to see if they are much better or not, but I see there is a positive development that they showed last season. Their mentality is slowly forming, but the problem is that it is not enough to make them win the title.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on August 28, 2024, 11:36:25 PM
Since your favorite top leagues will be starting with the 2024-2025 season soon, why don't we start placing our vote for this season's winner? The usual favorites are there on the list but feel free to mention if your team is not there.
Polls are locked why don't you open them? So that others can vote for their favorite team.

Inter Milan not in the poll? I think this team has a lot of fans especially for Serie A lovers.
My bad, I came to check the result of the poll but noticed just now that I forgot to unlock it after editing.
Anyway, members can start voting now. Inter Milan already added and the list is still open for your favorite team (if not yet included).
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 29, 2024, 12:20:00 AM
I see it as very difficult for City to take the title from Madrid, now Madrid has very good players, and for me with the help of a player with the characteristics of Mbappé it will be much harder, also I think that Ancelotti gave Pep a lesson when they played only defensively, like a good Italian he showed him that Madrid is multifaceted, they can not only play attack, counterattack, when they say they are playing defensively they are a wall, now if they play the same leaving Mbappé alone in point who when he runs leaves everyone in his way, it will be more interesting
Even if Real Madrid has many good players, it doesn't guarantee Real Madrid to play better this season. You must watch their first match in La Liga, they got a surprising result against Mallorca. They got a draw result against a small team in La Liga, it is not impossible if Man City can defeat them in UCL. Mbappe seems to take time to adjust to Real Madrid's game style. Considering the match against Mallorca, it won't be easy for Mbappe to play with his best with Real Madrid.

You're right, what Madrid did against Mallorca did disconcert me a little. We've seen that they have a great team, but they've been through things like that before. I remember that a long time ago Madrid had a fall like that and even though they had very good players they couldn't win, and most of them were pure stars, and it cost them a lot. By the way, it was when Barcelona had Dinho in their ranks, and wow, in Madrid there was Ronaldo, Zidane, Roberto Carlos, Beckham, among other good ones and they couldn't win. I hope that doesn't happen now.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on August 29, 2024, 04:26:12 AM
Finally 36 teams participants for UEFA Champion League season 2024/25 completed after last three teams Slovan Bratislava, Crvena zvezda and Lille are qualified.
Upcoming few days later will draw and waiting with new format which one team will face each other, are there any big match with phase league format of Champion League because only the top eight teams are directly qualified. The 9th until 24th standings team will face each other on playoff round for getting eight place left qualify to knock out round and new format taken eight matches with four home and four away matches.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on August 29, 2024, 12:38:12 PM
Finally 36 teams participants for UEFA Champion League season 2024/25 completed after last three teams Slovan Bratislava, Crvena zvezda and Lille are qualified.
Upcoming few days later will draw and waiting with new format which one team will face each other, are there any big match with phase league format of Champion League because only the top eight teams are directly qualified. The 9th until 24th standings team will face each other on playoff round for getting eight place left qualify to knock out round and new format taken eight matches with four home and four away matches.

Yep. New Champions League, new challenges. Big change from the previous.
Every team plays 8 games. 2 opponents from each pot, home and away Against pot 1, pot 2, pot 3, and pot 4 teams.
This season's Champions League is gonna be a fire but no slot for Manchester United and Chelsea, they are not good enough for the Champions League
The Champions League is the creme de la creme of European football
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on August 30, 2024, 12:21:25 AM
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/08/29/9T0Xa.png)

Here's the table of all the pots and fixtures for the "eague stage.
Credit to naira for his post on BTT: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498806.msg64476408#msg64476408

The way this table is presented is quite confusing, i.e. the first column listing all the teams is separate to the fixtures part of the table.
But the main takeaway from the tournament structure changes is that the league (or pot) stage will not feature teams playing 2 games against each other (home/away) but, instead, each team will play 8 games against 8 different teams.
Some could say it's not necessarily fair, but I can live with that.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zaguru12 on August 30, 2024, 12:42:41 AM

Yep. New Champions League, new challenges. Big change from the previous.
Every team plays 8 games. 2 opponents from each pot, home and away Against pot 1, pot 2, pot 3, and pot 4 teams.
This season's Champions League is gonna be a fire but no slot for Manchester United and Chelsea, they are not good enough for the Champions League
The Champions League is the creme de la creme of European football

I don’t want to sound like someone who doesn’t appreciate change but this new format of the champions league doesn’t just sit well with me, yes it means more teams and also more games but why can’t they leave the old format to make it understandable for everyone. Right now what I see here is just the UEFA body trying to maximize profits here and nothing more.

Looking at this thing at the moment i only feel for the players they will be playing more than the usual which means more wages but the health implications is still there, the FIFA World Cup had been increased and now this again
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on August 30, 2024, 09:07:34 AM
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I don’t want to sound like someone who doesn’t appreciate change but this new format of the champions league doesn’t just sit well with me, yes it means more teams and also more games but why can’t they leave the old format to make it understandable for everyone. Right now what I see here is just the UEFA body trying to maximize profits here and nothing more.

Looking at this thing at the moment i only feel for the players they will be playing more than the usual which means more wages but the health implications is still there, the FIFA World Cup had been increased and now this again

It’s a bit debatable. Fixture congestion is a bad negative, but other than that the format is more entertaining and the fans watch more matches as the top clubs often play against each other
More players don't get enough playing time with the group stage format, now it's their time.
The transfer window hasn't closed yet, the clubs must sign more players and I hope UEFA allows more players to be registered.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on August 30, 2024, 02:15:36 PM
It’s a bit debatable. Fixture congestion is a bad negative, but other than that the format is more entertaining and the fans watch more matches as the top clubs often play against each other
More players don't get enough playing time with the group stage format, now it's their time.
The transfer window hasn't closed yet, the clubs must sign more players and I hope UEFA allows more players to be registered.
Well, this is also one of the hot topics of conversation regarding the greater number of matches. Some people have a problem with it because they see it will make the players tired, because they also need time to rest.

There is indeed a break from one match to another, but it is still a highlight for some people. Apart from that, they do have players and can rotate, but they will still prefer to play with their best composition.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on August 30, 2024, 03:23:09 PM
Champion League new format become league I doubt how regulation with any team have the same points and difference goals for standings regulation. We know only 8 teams are qualifying to knock out round and left 8 teams from 9th to 24th have fight trough playoff round, every team not face each other and difficult with head to head point for position standings.

Still difficult for understanding with new format of Champion League, I think its interested because qualify to knock out round will be difficult than using old format.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 30, 2024, 09:27:16 PM
Champion League new format become league I doubt how regulation with any team have the same points and difference goals for standings regulation. We know only 8 teams are qualifying to knock out round and left 8 teams from 9th to 24th have fight trough playoff round, every team not face each other and difficult with head to head point for position standings.

Still difficult for understanding with new format of Champion League, I think its interested because qualify to knock out round will be difficult than using old format.

This has been a topic of debate for many fans, and yes , it seems a bit complicated, but as I have said in many topics, what I like about this is that there is more football, more games and more opportunities for those teams that are left there on the road that still can't get going and that are left Because they were short of the penny for the dollar, I think that in this new format those teams manage to qualify and show if they are fit or not, that is what I like the most, for the Rest I think that with time it will Seem easy, it is like everything when there are changes, they always Affect.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on August 30, 2024, 09:42:48 PM
This has been a topic of debate for many fans, and yes , it seems a bit complicated, but as I have said in many topics, what I like about this is that there is more football, more games and more opportunities for those teams that are left there on the road that still can't get going and that are left Because they were short of the penny for the dollar, I think that in this new format those teams manage to qualify and show if they are fit or not, that is what I like the most, for the Rest I think that with time it will Seem easy, it is like everything when there are changes, they always Affect.
The new format seems a little bit complicated, but as time goes on, we will become used to it. I'm a bit optimistic about it because it means that the competition is now open to all competitors and predicting who may end up as winner has become more difficult. Manchester City and Real Madrid that remain strong favorites for the competition, we have to work really hard to ensure that they make it to the finals. All teams have tough fixtures, the quality and mentality of players in each team will be very important.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on August 31, 2024, 09:10:17 AM
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Well, this is also one of the hot topics of conversation regarding the greater number of matches. Some people have a problem with it because they see it will make the players tired, because they also need time to rest.

There is indeed a break from one match to another, but it is still a highlight for some people. Apart from that, they do have players and can rotate, but they will still prefer to play with their best composition.

New things always appear that way, and then we get used to it and wonder why it took so long to change :)
It's only two extra matches. In the new Champions League format, the winner now plays 15 games instead of 13, With 8 league matches against 8 different opponents replacing the old 6-group games against 3 opponents.
The new format also allows clubs against a wider range of opponents and it will be more entertaining for the fans
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on August 31, 2024, 01:43:56 PM

Well, this is also one of the hot topics of conversation regarding the greater number of matches. Some people have a problem with it because they see it will make the players tired, because they also need time to rest.

There is indeed a break from one match to another, but it is still a highlight for some people. Apart from that, they do have players and can rotate, but they will still prefer to play with their best composition.

New things always appear that way, and then we get used to it and wonder why it took so long to change :)
It's only two extra matches. In the new Champions League format, the winner now plays 15 games instead of 13, With 8 league matches against 8 different opponents replacing the old 6-group games against 3 opponents.
The new format also allows clubs against a wider range of opponents and it will be more entertaining for the fans
You are right that with time such talk will surely disappear by itself, it is just that some people are not yet accustomed to the changes that exist, and that is normal because they have to adapt and get used to what exists.

What is interesting is that when there are many big matches in this early period, we will see matches that will be considered as matches that deserve to be in the knockout stages at least.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on September 03, 2024, 03:20:42 AM
This has been a topic of debate for many fans, and yes , it seems a bit complicated, but as I have said in many topics, what I like about this is that there is more football, more games and more opportunities for those teams that are left there on the road that still can't get going and that are left Because they were short of the penny for the dollar, I think that in this new format those teams manage to qualify and show if they are fit or not, that is what I like the most, for the Rest I think that with time it will Seem easy, it is like everything when there are changes, they always Affect.
The new format seems a little bit complicated, but as time goes on, we will become used to it. I'm a bit optimistic about it because it means that the competition is now open to all competitors and predicting who may end up as winner has become more difficult. Manchester City and Real Madrid that remain strong favorites for the competition, we have to work really hard to ensure that they make it to the finals. All teams have tough fixtures, the quality and mentality of players in each team will be very important.

Yes, it is as you say, there is also a point that is not favourable for these teams that are considered great, or the best, that for them more games, more opportunities for the Other teams means that these teams are going to end up much more exhausted and that means they Have to do their job better and with more concentration, so teams like City and Madrid do need to secure and be more precise , they are the ones that have to do very well as things get more towards that funnel of the final, these teams or rather the players will end up much more tired than Before.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on September 03, 2024, 03:45:50 PM
So 1st out of 8 matchdays will take place between Tue 17th Sep and Thu 19th Sep.
We'll see a total of 18 games, so plenty to choose from. The biggest one is probably Man City Vs Inter in Manchester. The champions of England and last year Champion's League finalists against the champions of Italy who almost made it to the UCL quarter finals (lost to Atletico Madrid on penalties).
Liverpool Vs Milan also sounds interesting, but Milan does not impress with their league games, with only 2 points earned in the first 3 Serie A games. Haven't checked the odds for this one yet but expect Liverpool to be a big favourite.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on September 03, 2024, 10:47:37 PM
So 1st out of 8 matchdays will take place between Tue 17th Sep and Thu 19th Sep.
We'll see a total of 18 games, so plenty to choose from. The biggest one is probably Man City Vs Inter in Manchester.
Manchester City still look to be in a very comfortable position to compete for the Champions league again this season. The Italians are tactical, but I believe that City will find a way through to win that game. Betting on City is almost too boring, they mostly win their games.

Liverpool Vs Milan also sounds interesting, but Milan does not impress with their league games, with only 2 points earned in the first 3 Serie A games. Haven't checked the odds for this one yet but expect Liverpool to be a big favourite.

I expect that odds will be adjusted before then, Liverpool will still be favorites to win.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on September 04, 2024, 01:37:14 PM
So 1st out of 8 matchdays will take place between Tue 17th Sep and Thu 19th Sep.
We'll see a total of 18 games, so plenty to choose from. The biggest one is probably Man City Vs Inter in Manchester. The champions of England and last year Champion's League finalists against the champions of Italy who almost made it to the UCL quarter finals (lost to Atletico Madrid on penalties).
Liverpool Vs Milan also sounds interesting, but Milan does not impress with their league games, with only 2 points earned in the first 3 Serie A games. Haven't checked the odds for this one yet but expect Liverpool to be a big favourite.

I like the new format more than the old one and feel the league phase table is heating up. Much more power and the Titans will clash…
Can't wait to see who makes it to the knockout stages
But It looks like a high school report card some teams are straight A’s while others are just trying to avoid getting grounded :)
The only issue with the Champions League is that so many matches are played at the same time that we can only watch one match, and of course, we watch our team or the best match available.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 04, 2024, 01:49:52 PM
So 1st out of 8 matchdays will take place between Tue 17th Sep and Thu 19th Sep.
We'll see a total of 18 games, so plenty to choose from. The biggest one is probably Man City Vs Inter in Manchester. The champions of England and last year Champion's League finalists against the champions of Italy who almost made it to the UCL quarter finals (lost to Atletico Madrid on penalties).
Liverpool Vs Milan also sounds interesting, but Milan does not impress with their league games, with only 2 points earned in the first 3 Serie A games. Haven't checked the odds for this one yet but expect Liverpool to be a big favourite.
In the 1st match, perhaps the Man City vs Inter Milan match will be the most interesting match for us to see. But I'm not sure which team to bet on in that match. Maybe at first glance Man City will be the clear favorite in this match. but I always see lots of surprises from Serie A teams in the UCL. So I always can't underestimate teams from Italy. And Inter Milan is also a very strong club in Serie A as champions last season. So maybe I will just enjoy the match and skip the bet.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on September 04, 2024, 03:20:53 PM
In the 1st match, perhaps the Man City vs Inter Milan match will be the most interesting match for us to see. But I'm not sure which team to bet on in that match. Maybe at first glance Man City will be the clear favorite in this match. but I always see lots of surprises from Serie A teams in the UCL. So I always can't underestimate teams from Italy. And Inter Milan is also a very strong club in Serie A as champions last season. So maybe I will just enjoy the match and skip the bet.
Its very interested match and become reunion of the UEFA Champion League final season 2023/24 when Inter Milan got loss, have difference format in this season with UEFA Champion League and make all teams must secure three points every home and away matches if want get top eight standings place who directly qualify to knock out round.
Manchester City still impressive performance in domestic league and Inter Milan get bad start on the first matc after being draw but have recovery top quit well perform in last two matches. I think difficult for predicting the winner between Man City or Inter Milan although Man City lead head to head when both team face each other.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on September 04, 2024, 06:08:59 PM
In the 1st match, perhaps the Man City vs Inter Milan match will be the most interesting match for us to see. But I'm not sure which team to bet on in that match. Maybe at first glance Man City will be the clear favorite in this match. but I always see lots of surprises from Serie A teams in the UCL. So I always can't underestimate teams from Italy. And Inter Milan is also a very strong club in Serie A as champions last season. So maybe I will just enjoy the match and skip the bet.
Its very interested match and become reunion of the UEFA Champion League final season 2023/24 when Inter Milan got loss, have difference format in this season with UEFA Champion League and make all teams must secure three points every home and away matches if want get top eight standings place who directly qualify to knock out round.
Manchester City still impressive performance in domestic league and Inter Milan get bad start on the first matc after being draw but have recovery top quit well perform in last two matches. I think difficult for predicting the winner between Man City or Inter Milan although Man City lead head to head when both team face each other.
Inter Milan will certainly want to avenge their defeat in the Champions League final, although they will not do it in the final but they will still be motivated to avenge their previous defeat.

It will be difficult, but Manchester City are still the favorites. They have looked more solid than Inter Milan in the last few seasons, the peak when they managed to win in the final. But that does not mean Inter Milan can't win, their chances are open to be able to do that.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on September 04, 2024, 11:56:23 PM
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As expected, after a pretty bad start of the season, the odds makers don't have faith in Milan being able to defeat Liverpool even considering home advantage.
But who knows, maybe it's a good betting opportunity. For a double-chance bet (1X) you can now get x1.83.
It's worth to remind that AC Milan has a new manager, Paulo Fonseca, and maybe the poor start is just due to the time it take for the team to adjust to new style etc.
Milan is playing a potentially easy game against Venezia on Saturday. If they win it easily, their confidence might grow and the odds will probably get adjusted, so maybe it's worth to take the risk and place a bet before the weekend.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on September 05, 2024, 12:23:34 AM
I don’t want to sound like someone who doesn’t appreciate change but this new format of the champions league doesn’t just sit well with me, yes it means more teams and also more games but why can’t they leave the old format to make it understandable for everyone. Right now what I see here is just the UEFA body trying to maximize profits here and nothing more.

Looking at this thing at the moment i only feel for the players they will be playing more than the usual which means more wages but the health implications is still there, the FIFA World Cup had been increased and now this again

I think it is now answering it's real name "Champions League". I don't really know what UEFA is thinking, because these players will be on the receiving end. Just imagine, they literally have lots of games waiting for them ahead of the season, and they are currently playing in various international qualifiers. Having 38 games(for epl), 8 group stage games(UCL), domestic cup games, etc. Clubs with less number of players won't find this funny, especially when injuries and fatigue starts surfacing. I can't really imagine the club I support playing 8-10 games in a month. I think UEFA might want to make a review of this rule, because these players are not robot.

In the 1st match, perhaps the Man City vs Inter Milan match will be the most interesting match for us to see. But I'm not sure which team to bet on in that match. Maybe at first glance Man City will be the clear favorite in this match. but I always see lots of surprises from Serie A teams in the UCL. So I always can't underestimate teams from Italy. And Inter Milan is also a very strong club in Serie A as champions last season. So maybe I will just enjoy the match and skip the bet.

After watching Atlanta vs Leverkusen (Europa League final), I stopped underestimating all serie a teams. They are clearly underdogs that we all need to watch out for because they might make things very difficult for big teams. Just imagine bologna from the serie a, qualifying for the UCL ahead of Napoli. I see heavy competition in this UCL, but maybe more of fatigue kind of game. As for city - inter, I can't really predict, but I think inter will like to return a favor from the finals
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Yamzakid on September 05, 2024, 01:39:12 PM
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I like the old format, and don't know if I'm the only one confused by this new Champions League format, while we will get to enjoy it when it starts. In my opinion, this time around, Champions League will be tough and enjoyable due to the increased number of teams, and the more teams there are, the more matches they'll play.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on September 05, 2024, 05:25:19 PM
There are at least 10 more days before we enter the opening match in the Champions League. Can't wait to be in the opening match, because this is what we have been waiting for for a long time.

Juventus vs PSV will be the opening match of the Champions League this season and the other match is Young Boys vs Aston Villa at the same time. There will definitely be a lot of betting on that match and I'm sure there will be a lot of multi or parlay bets made.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on September 05, 2024, 06:07:27 PM
There are at least 10 more days before we enter the opening match in the Champions League. Can't wait to be in the opening match, because this is what we have been waiting for for a long time.

Juventus vs PSV will be the opening match of the Champions League this season and the other match is Young Boys vs Aston Villa at the same time. There will definitely be a lot of betting on that match and I'm sure there will be a lot of multi or parlay bets made.
UEFA Champion League first match will start on Tuesday September 17 and Juventus vs PSV become the opening match, as usually after one match in domestic league after international break out Champion League match will begin. I am so excited how the opening match because UEFA Champion League adopt new format from competition become league phase for any team need reach top position if won't eliminated to Europe League.

New format make UEFA Champion League have many matches and difficult position which one priority match have to watch, I am still waiting the opening match Juventus vs PSV and then continues watching Madrid vs Stuttgart as debut team for their first appearance after absent longer time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on September 06, 2024, 05:32:14 PM
There are at least 10 more days before we enter the opening match in the Champions League. Can't wait to be in the opening match, because this is what we have been waiting for for a long time.

Juventus vs PSV will be the opening match of the Champions League this season and the other match is Young Boys vs Aston Villa at the same time. There will definitely be a lot of betting on that match and I'm sure there will be a lot of multi or parlay bets made.
UEFA Champion League first match will start on Tuesday September 17 and Juventus vs PSV become the opening match, as usually after one match in domestic league after international break out Champion League match will begin. I am so excited how the opening match because UEFA Champion League adopt new format from competition become league phase for any team need reach top position if won't eliminated to Europe League.

New format make UEFA Champion League have many matches and difficult position which one priority match have to watch, I am still waiting the opening match Juventus vs PSV and then continues watching Madrid vs Stuttgart as debut team for their first appearance after absent longer time.
Yes we will see more matches in the Champions League with this new format implemented, so we also have more opportunities to bet on the teams that are predicted to win.

One of the differences in this phase of the league is that there are no 2-legged matches like last season. Now they will face each other once and play 8 games, there will be no revenge drama in the second leg like we saw last season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: debra on September 06, 2024, 11:18:28 PM
New format make UEFA Champion League have many matches and difficult position which one priority match have to watch, I am still waiting the opening match Juventus vs PSV and then continues watching Madrid vs Stuttgart as debut team for their first appearance after absent longer time.
Yes, we have more matches and more teams in UCL. The new format of UCL may be more interested because we have no group stage. In new format, we have league stage, not really sure how this stage is like. But it seems to have many teams in league stage, and there are 8 teams only that automatically to go to the next round/stage.

Juventus vs PSV, I am sure Juventus will win the match. Juventus looks better in this season. Madrid vs Stuttgart, Madrid should be the favorite to win the match. I think there will no surprise in these matches.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on September 07, 2024, 05:46:32 AM
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As expected, after a pretty bad start of the season, the odds makers don't have faith in Milan being able to defeat Liverpool even considering home advantage.
But who knows, maybe it's a good betting opportunity. For a double-chance bet (1X) you can now get x1.83.
It's worth to remind that AC Milan has a new manager, Paulo Fonseca, and maybe the poor start is just due to the time it take for the team to adjust to new style etc.
Milan is playing a potentially easy game against Venezia on Saturday. If they win it easily, their confidence might grow and the odds will probably get adjusted, so maybe it's worth to take the risk and place a bet before the weekend.

An epic clash of European giants at San Siro and I do not want to miss this titanic match-up.
Milan is my club and you are right, Bet for Milan might be a good betting opportunity but I will wait for Milan's result against Venezia first to place a bet. I'm tired of watching my team celebrate draws.
Hopefully, Tammy Abraham can be a good recruit, even though he is only on loan but this season he can provide help.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on September 10, 2024, 10:58:32 PM
Do you guys think any of the Italian teams could win the UCL this season?
It's about time. It has been 14 years since the last Italian team raised the cup (Inter in the 2009/10 season). It's a bit odd since Serie A is considered one of the strongest leagues in Europe.
We have 5 Italian teams participating: Inter, AC Milan, Juventus, Atalanta and Bologna.
Obviously Inter is rated as the strongest of them all. Still, Atalanta did very well in European competition last season and won the Europa Cup beating undefeated Leverkusen in the final. Maybe they can replicate their success in the UCL, but the start of the league season doesn't spark much optimism, they've lost 2 out of the first 3 games.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 10, 2024, 11:13:14 PM
There are at least 10 more days before we enter the opening match in the Champions League. Can't wait to be in the opening match, because this is what we have been waiting for for a long time.

Juventus vs PSV will be the opening match of the Champions League this season and the other match is Young Boys vs Aston Villa at the same time. There will definitely be a lot of betting on that match and I'm sure there will be a lot of multi or parlay bets made.
Now just counting the days until UCL starts. And actually the opening match of the UCL this time seems to be quite easy to predict. I think Juventus will win quite easily against PSV, and likewise Aston Villa will definitely be able to beat Young Boys even though with a narrow score. But what makes me most curious is the PSG vs Girona and Man City vs Inter Milan matches. I think it will be a difficult match to predict. So I might even just choose to enjoy it by watching it without betting on who will win.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on September 11, 2024, 11:15:59 AM
Do you guys think any of the Italian teams could win the UCL this season?
It's about time. It has been 14 years since the last Italian team raised the cup (Inter in the 2009/10 season). It's a bit odd since Serie A is considered one of the strongest leagues in Europe.
We have 5 Italian teams participating: Inter, AC Milan, Juventus, Atalanta and Bologna.
Obviously Inter is rated as the strongest of them all. Still, Atalanta did very well in European competition last season and won the Europa Cup beating undefeated Leverkusen in the final. Maybe they can replicate their success in the UCL, but the start of the league season doesn't spark much optimism, they've lost 2 out of the first 3 games.

I am not a Juventus fan but I have a good feeling that Juventus will move far in the Champions League this season, their performance in the league so far also looks promising.
And the official squad that they announced to compete in the Champions League looks quite solid.
Thiago Motta included eight newly recruited players, such as Koopmeiners, Nico Gonzalez, Conceicao, Khephren Thuram, Douglas Luiz, Pierre Kalulu, Juan Cabal, and Michele Di Gregorio but Kenan Yildiz, and Samuel Mbangula included in the B list.
And Juve is a club with a rich winning history but right now, the most important thing is to take it step by step, game by game. Good luck...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on September 11, 2024, 01:47:39 PM
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As expected, after a pretty bad start of the season, the odds makers don't have faith in Milan being able to defeat Liverpool even considering home advantage.
But who knows, maybe it's a good betting opportunity. For a double-chance bet (1X) you can now get x1.83.
It's worth to remind that AC Milan has a new manager, Paulo Fonseca, and maybe the poor start is just due to the time it take for the team to adjust to new style etc.
Milan is playing a potentially easy game against Venezia on Saturday. If they win it easily, their confidence might grow and the odds will probably get adjusted, so maybe it's worth to take the risk and place a bet before the weekend.

An epic clash of European giants at San Siro and I do not want to miss this titanic match-up.
Milan is my club and you are right, Bet for Milan might be a good betting opportunity but I will wait for Milan's result against Venezia first to place a bet. I'm tired of watching my team celebrate draws.
Hopefully, Tammy Abraham can be a good recruit, even though he is only on loan but this season he can provide help.

honestly I think Milan has a lot of problems
there are big problems with the players and the coach, very few points taken in the first games
in short, the crisis is serious, and I don't think he can win... in my opinion Liverpool are the favorites unless there are major upheavals ;)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on September 11, 2024, 03:48:47 PM
There are at least 10 more days before we enter the opening match in the Champions League. Can't wait to be in the opening match, because this is what we have been waiting for for a long time.

Juventus vs PSV will be the opening match of the Champions League this season and the other match is Young Boys vs Aston Villa at the same time. There will definitely be a lot of betting on that match and I'm sure there will be a lot of multi or parlay bets made.
Now just counting the days until UCL starts. And actually the opening match of the UCL this time seems to be quite easy to predict. I think Juventus will win quite easily against PSV, and likewise Aston Villa will definitely be able to beat Young Boys even though with a narrow score. But what makes me most curious is the PSG vs Girona and Man City vs Inter Milan matches. I think it will be a difficult match to predict. So I might even just choose to enjoy it by watching it without betting on who will win.
I think it won't be easy, because this is just the beginning and usually a team starting a competition will need a little adaptation, especially if in the domestic league they haven't fully found their game form.

However, on paper we should have been able to predict who would win, it's just that it's an advantage on paper that sometimes what will happen on the field will be a little different from what we predicted.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on September 12, 2024, 07:29:06 AM
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honestly I think Milan has a lot of problems
there are big problems with the players and the coach, very few points taken in the first games
in short, the crisis is serious, and I don't think he can win... in my opinion Liverpool are the favorites unless there are major upheavals ;)

I agree, Liverpool is the favorite but Milan is Milan, a big club with history. Milan is not a regular football team.
Yes, they struggled at the start of the season but the journey is a long way, many things can happen.
And if the parameters are the first three games, Roma is also in a serious crisis :)
I only support the name AC Milan in Serie A, nothing else.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on September 12, 2024, 03:02:00 PM
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honestly I think Milan has a lot of problems
there are big problems with the players and the coach, very few points taken in the first games
in short, the crisis is serious, and I don't think he can win... in my opinion Liverpool are the favorites unless there are major upheavals ;)

I agree, Liverpool is the favorite but Milan is Milan, a big club with history. Milan is not a regular football team.
Yes, they struggled at the start of the season but the journey is a long way, many things can happen.
And if the parameters are the first three games, Roma is also in a serious crisis :)
I only support the name AC Milan in Serie A, nothing else.

Ok Milan is Milan, I understand what you want to tell me
you want to tell me about the history, about the fact that he won many Champions Leagues... I understand what you mean

but I saw a very low quality of play and a less than low education of some players
it doesn't go on like this ... we can bet :)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on September 12, 2024, 06:18:51 PM

but I saw a very low quality of play and a less than low education of some players
it doesn't go on like this ... we can bet :)

I know, I'm not a good gambler, but okay. let's bet. Just on who wins, excluding draws
I bet $10 that Milan will win this match. It's just for fun, not about money :)
I support AC Milan, I hope they don't let me down...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on September 12, 2024, 06:45:11 PM
I agree, Liverpool is the favorite but Milan is Milan, a big club with history. Milan is not a regular football team.
Yes, they struggled at the start of the season but the journey is a long way, many things can happen.
And if the parameters are the first three games, Roma is also in a serious crisis :)
I only support the name AC Milan in Serie A, nothing else.

Ok Milan is Milan, I understand what you want to tell me
you want to tell me about the history, about the fact that he won many Champions Leagues... I understand what you mean

but I saw a very low quality of play and a less than low education of some players
it doesn't go on like this ... we can bet :)
Talking about history is actually a different thing, I will give an example of what happened to Manchester United for example. They are a big team that also has history in the past, but we can see what they are like now.

All of that will apply to all teams, especially if they still have problems. Both financial problems, coaching and so on. We cannot look at the history of a team and always want to see them as they used to be, because everything has changed.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on September 12, 2024, 10:36:17 PM

but I saw a very low quality of play and a less than low education of some players
it doesn't go on like this ... we can bet :)

I know, I'm not a good gambler, but okay. let's bet. Just on who wins, excluding draws
I bet $10 that Milan will win this match. It's just for fun, not about money :)
I support AC Milan, I hope they don't let me down...
Fun with $10 is no problem, you support AC Milan I am here supporting Liverpool in their away game, but I still haven't checked the odds offered by the bookmaker, can someone show here the odds for Liverpool and AC Milan?

I am accessing my favorite casino a little bit difficult because the internet is bad right now.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on September 12, 2024, 11:13:39 PM
I know, I'm not a good gambler, but okay. let's bet. Just on who wins, excluding draws
I bet $10 that Milan will win this match. It's just for fun, not about money :)
I support AC Milan, I hope they don't let me down...
Fun with $10 is no problem, you support AC Milan I am here supporting Liverpool in their away game, but I still haven't checked the odds offered by the bookmaker, can someone show here the odds for Liverpool and AC Milan?

I am accessing my favorite casino a little bit difficult because the internet is bad right now.

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Here is the odd. Milan vs Liverpool will be a very interesting game to watch. Though, Milan has been poor in their last three games, but I don't think we should just write them off just because there are facing a very good Premier League side(Liverpool). I have always known serie a teams as underdogs, as they know how to pull up surprises even when we less expect. But from Head to Head, and current performance, Liverpool has always to been the better side...

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Personally, I will only give my support to any side that has a had a better season so far from all games, which means Liverpool is my favorite. I will definitely play them in my game ahead of the UCL opening, but won't be too disappointed if the serie a side decides to pull up a good fight.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on September 12, 2024, 11:18:24 PM
I agree, Liverpool is the favorite but Milan is Milan, a big club with history. Milan is not a regular football team.
Yes, they struggled at the start of the season but the journey is a long way, many things can happen.
And if the parameters are the first three games, Roma is also in a serious crisis :)
I only support the name AC Milan in Serie A, nothing else.
Even if Milan has great history, it can't help a lot Milan. We must realize the current performance of Milan, they look hard to win any match in UCL. Moreover, it is the match against Liverpool, honestly I think Milan has no chance to win. Liverpool performed well in EPL, they started this season perfectly, they won every match in EPL. Meanwhile AC Milan, they never won a single match so far, how can we expect they win against Liverpool? Sure, the favorite team to win should be Liverpool. It is quite strange if there are people who want to try betting on AC Milan.  :D

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on September 12, 2024, 11:32:55 PM
Personally, I will only give my support to any side that has a had a better season so far from all games, which means Liverpool is my favorite. I will definitely play them in my game ahead of the UCL opening, but won't be too disappointed if the serie a side decides to pull up a good fight.
In fact, both Milan and Liverpool are top clubs in their respective leagues. However, if we look at how both of them performed at the beginning of this season, we can check from this data:

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/12/B18eZ.png)
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/champions-league/ac-milan-vs-liverpool_game_216189.html

Liverpool is quite good at starting this season with consistent wins. They are getting more solid and stronger even though they are with a new coach.

While on the other hand, AC Milan? How bad they are. So far, even their performance is really under-performed. They also lost to small, middle, and top teams, so what else is expected? Unless Milan can really learn from their previous under-performances in Serie A and have high hopes and motivation in this UCL. Maybe they will improve their performance a little.

However, I still believe that Liverpool will win this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on September 12, 2024, 11:55:24 PM
Personally, I will only give my support to any side that has a had a better season so far from all games, which means Liverpool is my favorite. I will definitely play them in my game ahead of the UCL opening, but won't be too disappointed if the serie a side decides to pull up a good fight.
In fact, both Milan and Liverpool are top clubs in their respective leagues. However, if we look at how both of them performed at the beginning of this season, we can check from this data:

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/12/B18eZ.png)
https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/champions-league/ac-milan-vs-liverpool_game_216189.html

Liverpool is quite good at starting this season with consistent wins. They are getting more solid and stronger even though they are with a new coach.

While on the other hand, AC Milan? How bad they are. So far, even their performance is really under-performed. They also lost to small, middle, and top teams, so what else is expected? Unless Milan can really learn from their previous under-performances in Serie A and have high hopes and motivation in this UCL. Maybe they will improve their performance a little.

However, I still believe that Liverpool will win this match.
Liverpool is well experienced in the champions league and their performance is good too compared to that of Milan which should be an advantage for them to win Milan. I don't know the strategy Fonseca will be using but he is finding it difficult to win mediocre clubs in Italy and i don't see how he will be able to win Liverpool a big club with consistency.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on September 13, 2024, 05:33:15 AM
I agree, Liverpool is the favorite but Milan is Milan, a big club with history. Milan is not a regular football team.
Yes, they struggled at the start of the season but the journey is a long way, many things can happen.
And if the parameters are the first three games, Roma is also in a serious crisis :)
I only support the name AC Milan in Serie A, nothing else.
Even if Milan has great history, it can't help a lot Milan. We must realize the current performance of Milan, they look hard to win any match in UCL. Moreover, it is the match against Liverpool, honestly I think Milan has no chance to win. Liverpool performed well in EPL, they started this season perfectly, they won every match in EPL. Meanwhile AC Milan, they never won a single match so far, how can we expect they win against Liverpool? Sure, the favorite team to win should be Liverpool. It is quite strange if there are people who want to try betting on AC Milan.  :D

Hahaha... I know this is a bad business idea :)
But this is football, it promises thrills and uncertainties, there is always a chance to win for both teams and I support my home team. Pray for Milan
And I hope Morata and Abraham are fit, the idea of ​​playing 2 strikers is the best option, assisted by Jovic as a substitute. it can be used when time is running out
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Asiska02 on September 13, 2024, 09:51:50 AM
Liverpool is well experienced in the champions league and their performance is good too compared to that of Milan which should be an advantage for them to win Milan. I don't know the strategy Fonseca will be using but he is finding it difficult to win mediocre clubs in Italy and i don't see how he will be able to win Liverpool a big club with consistency.

Both teams have experience in the champions league and we can’t deny the fact that both teams are going to give each other a tough time before winning the game. The champions league is a very competitive game and you can’t always tell which team has the best tendency to win the game until it’s played. How both teams played in their league games is different from how they’re going to be playing in the champions league. Irrespective of their performance in the domestic league, they can still be the toughest teams in the champions league.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on September 14, 2024, 12:05:05 AM
AC Milan Vs Liverpool will kick-off on Tue, but the biggest game of the first round of the new league stage will take place on Wed.
Inter is coming to Manchester to take on Man City. Champions of England Vs Champions of Italy - it doesn't get any better than that.
Inter won Serie A last season with a whopping 19 points advantage over AC Milan and made it to the round of 16 in the Chamions League (unexpectedly losing to Atletico on penalties), but bookies don't give them much chances of winning:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/13/B5zRv.png)

Man City very rarely loses at home, so 1 point is probably the most that Inter can hope for.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on September 14, 2024, 11:13:27 AM
Inter is coming to Manchester to take on Man City. Champions of England Vs Champions of Italy - it doesn't get any better than that.
Inter won Serie A last season with a whopping 19 points advantage over AC Milan and made it to the round of 16 in the Chamions League (unexpectedly losing to Atletico on penalties), but bookies don't give them much chances of winning:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/13/B5zRv.png)

Man City very rarely loses at home, so 1 point is probably the most that Inter can hope for.

The big match in the first round 8) and this game is rematched from the 2023 finals.
Inter will be the first hurdle in Manchester City’s quest to win the UCL this season, and Guardiola knew it would be a difficult match for Manchester City.
And Nathan Ake's injury will worry Guardiola because it will weaken City's defense
Getting one point is good for Inzaghi but City still has a great chance to win this game, City will win by 1 - 0. IMO

Btw, The Cityzen will don their 4th kit "Definitely City" for the first time against Inter Milan, It will be the first time the club hasn't used their home kit at home since 2005.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on September 14, 2024, 04:13:53 PM
AC Milan Vs Liverpool will kick-off on Tue, but the biggest game of the first round of the new league stage will take place on Wed.
Inter is coming to Manchester to take on Man City. Champions of England Vs Champions of Italy - it doesn't get any better than that.
Inter won Serie A last season with a whopping 19 points advantage over AC Milan and made it to the round of 16 in the Chamions League (unexpectedly losing to Atletico on penalties), but bookies don't give them much chances of winning:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/13/B5zRv.png)

Man City very rarely loses at home, so 1 point is probably the most that Inter can hope for.
You are right, at least Inter Milan must succeed in stealing points from Manchester City's headquarters, I think that is the most realistic target for now. Because it is not easy to win when facing Manchester City who are playing at their home ground.

Inter Milan must take advantage of the slightest opportunity, or at least they must maintain their defense so that it is not easy to concede, because we know Manchester City has a productive front line.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on September 15, 2024, 05:27:16 PM
Liverpool is well experienced in the champions league and their performance is good too compared to that of Milan which should be an advantage for them to win Milan. I don't know the strategy Fonseca will be using but he is finding it difficult to win mediocre clubs in Italy and i don't see how he will be able to win Liverpool a big club with consistency.

Both teams have experience in the champions league and we can’t deny the fact that both teams are going to give each other a tough time before winning the game. The champions league is a very competitive game and you can’t always tell which team has the best tendency to win the game until it’s played. How both teams played in their league games is different from how they’re going to be playing in the champions league. Irrespective of their performance in the domestic league, they can still be the toughest teams in the champions league.
Usually we will see 2 legs in the first round of the Champions League, but this time it is a little different because of the change in format. Now they can't get revenge on each other in the home game, so they have to be at their best in this one and only meeting.

Point by point is important, because only 8 teams will qualify directly, while for the 9th to 24th place they have to go through the play off round which will be very challenging too.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 15, 2024, 06:16:22 PM
AC Milan Vs Liverpool will kick-off on Tue, but the biggest game of the first round of the new league stage will take place on Wed.
Inter is coming to Manchester to take on Man City. Champions of England Vs Champions of Italy - it doesn't get any better than that.
Inter won Serie A last season with a whopping 19 points advantage over AC Milan and made it to the round of 16 in the Chamions League (unexpectedly losing to Atletico on penalties), but bookies don't give them much chances of winning:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/13/B5zRv.png)

Man City very rarely loses at home, so 1 point is probably the most that Inter can hope for.
I'm pretty sure Man City will win the match. Because if we look at Man City's current level of play, which is really great, it looks like they will be able to destroy last season's Serie A champions, namely Inter Milan. One of the goal scoring machines in the Man City squad, Haaland, is even in his best condition this season in the Premier League. And I think he will do the same at UCL. So I think betting on Man City is my choice.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on September 15, 2024, 09:30:54 PM
I'm pretty sure Man City will win the match. Because if we look at Man City's current level of play, which is really great, it looks like they will be able to destroy last season's Serie A champions, namely Inter Milan. One of the goal scoring machines in the Man City squad, Haaland, is even in his best condition this season in the Premier League. And I think he will do the same at UCL. So I think betting on Man City is my choice.
Surely, Manchester City will win the opening UEFA Champion League match against Inter Milan, have good capital after winning all domestic league matches make The Citizen more confidence for winning match against Inter Milan with lead head to head after winning last meet at Champion League final season 2022/23.
Manchester City have advantage for the first match in Champion League because get more day rest than Inter Milan have to play in domestic league match few hours later and The Citizen have played last yesterday. my prediction Manchester City not get difficult for winning above one or two goals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on September 15, 2024, 10:04:22 PM
AC Milan Vs Liverpool will kick-off on Tue, but the biggest game of the first round of the new league stage will take place on Wed.
Inter is coming to Manchester to take on Man City. Champions of England Vs Champions of Italy - it doesn't get any better than that.
Inter won Serie A last season with a whopping 19 points advantage over AC Milan and made it to the round of 16 in the Chamions League (unexpectedly losing to Atletico on penalties), but bookies don't give them much chances of winning:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/13/B5zRv.png)

Man City very rarely loses at home, so 1 point is probably the most that Inter can hope for.
Naturally, if Manchester City remains the bookies' favorite in terms of odds, it is far different in the sense that this will win the host over the away team, but for me it is definitely an interesting match.
I don't expect much from Inter Milan because we know Manchester City are more dominant so betting on the English team is more realistic.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Themepen on September 15, 2024, 10:05:44 PM
Surely, Manchester City will win the opening UEFA Champion League match against Inter Milan, have good capital after winning all domestic league matches make The Citizen more confidence for winning match against Inter Milan with lead head to head after winning last meet at Champion League final season 2022/23.
Manchester City have advantage for the first match in Champion League because get more day rest than Inter Milan have to play in domestic league match few hours later and The Citizen have played last yesterday. my prediction Manchester City not get difficult for winning above one or two goals.
I also think Manchester City will beat Inter Milan in their first Champions League match. Manchester City has been playing very well in their domestic league which gives them confidence. They also beat Inter Milan in their last meeting.
Manchester City has advantage because they havr more time to rest. Inter Milan played league match recently so they might be tired. This will make it harder for Inter Milan to win.

I predict Manchester City will win by one or two goals. They are in great form and have advantages. But, football can be surprising and Inter Milan is still strong team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on September 15, 2024, 10:37:03 PM
I'm pretty sure Man City will win the match. Because if we look at Man City's current level of play, which is really great, it looks like they will be able to destroy last season's Serie A champions, namely Inter Milan. One of the goal scoring machines in the Man City squad, Haaland, is even in his best condition this season in the Premier League. And I think he will do the same at UCL. So I think betting on Man City is my choice.
I also think the same, Man City looks more convincing to win the match. So far, Man City wins every match, meanwhile Inter Milan looks harder to win the matches currently. I think Inter Milan is experiencing a decrease of their performance. It is because Martinez can't play with their best anymore. He gets difficulty to score goals. In UCL, Man City is also a favorite team, Inter Milan level is still below Man City. Because of this matter, it is true that it is better to bet on Man City.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on September 16, 2024, 05:02:48 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/sFgS4t3/Screenshot-20240916-122338-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D71XFLK)

The games for match day one are finally out. We will have a total of 18 games, which will be played from Tuesday to Thursday. Surprisingly, we will be seeing some UCL games on the same day as Europa League games due to the recent changes in the number of participants in the UCL.

Let's drop all predictions for match day one, as there are lots of interesting fixtures to watch out for. I will go first.

The teams I think will secure all points for match day one are Munich, Real Madrid, Dortmund, PSG, Leverkusen, and Barcelona. I personally don't write off any Serie A teams, so predicting City and Arsenal’s games will be quite difficult. Maybe Arsenal might get all the points, but they currently lack a complete midfield, as their captain is absent due to injury.

While City might also get all the points, but I don’t think Inter will make it easy for them because I feel they still have some unfinished business.

Good luck to every team, and for those teams I didn’t make predictions on, I don’t plan on including them in my ticket either.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on September 16, 2024, 06:52:05 PM
my beloved team, Atalanta, is already facing a really strong team, Arsenal
I don't know if Atalanta is ready to play the Champions League at a good level, but we will try
We didn't make such a bad impression against Real Madrid, after all we were playing with the defending champions
We will see
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on September 16, 2024, 11:10:17 PM
AC Milan Vs Liverpool will kick-off on Tue, but the biggest game of the first round of the new league stage will take place on Wed.
Inter is coming to Manchester to take on Man City. Champions of England Vs Champions of Italy - it doesn't get any better than that.
Inter won Serie A last season with a whopping 19 points advantage over AC Milan and made it to the round of 16 in the Chamions League (unexpectedly losing to Atletico on penalties), but bookies don't give them much chances of winning:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/13/B5zRv.png)

Man City very rarely loses at home, so 1 point is probably the most that Inter can hope for.
Naturally, if Manchester City remains the bookies' favorite in terms of odds, it is far different in the sense that this will win the host over the away team, but for me it is definitely an interesting match.
I don't expect much from Inter Milan because we know Manchester City are more dominant so betting on the English team is more realistic.
The last time that ghis these two teams vame in vlash was in last two seasons UCL finals and City won that match. City has being in a good performance since the beginning of this season and Haaland is on form as he keep scoring and increasing his number of goals in every match. There is a high odds that Haaland will score in this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 17, 2024, 03:34:46 PM
I'm pretty sure Man City will win the match. Because if we look at Man City's current level of play, which is really great, it looks like they will be able to destroy last season's Serie A champions, namely Inter Milan. One of the goal scoring machines in the Man City squad, Haaland, is even in his best condition this season in the Premier League. And I think he will do the same at UCL. So I think betting on Man City is my choice.
I also think the same, Man City looks more convincing to win the match. So far, Man City wins every match, meanwhile Inter Milan looks harder to win the matches currently. I think Inter Milan is experiencing a decrease of their performance. It is because Martinez can't play with their best anymore. He gets difficulty to score goals. In UCL, Man City is also a favorite team, Inter Milan level is still below Man City. Because of this matter, it is true that it is better to bet on Man City.
So true. Currently, the performance of the Man City players also seems to be in their best condition, especially Haaland, who has been the top scorer in the Premier League at the start of this season. Man City also has very experienced midfielders such as De Bruyne and Gundogan who can always make the attack flow look very neat. And Haaland can also be pampered thanks to these two players. Overall, Man City has the best squad whose quality is beyond doubt. Meanwhile, Inter Milan did not make many changes, but they did seem to have experienced a slight decline in performance at the start of this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on September 17, 2024, 05:57:52 PM
Odds for all the 6 today evening's games:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/17/ga8ff.png)

The biggest favourite is Bayern, who will be playing at home against Croatian champions, Dinamo Zagreb.
Bayern looked sharp in their last league game with Holstein-Kiel (they won 6-1), while Dinamo couldn't win any of their last 3 games. But who knows, maybe we'll see a football cinderella story tonight.

The biggest game is of course AC Milan Vs Liverpool. I have a feeling that despite being the favourite, Liverpool will not win it. After the bad start, Milan finally noted a decent game with a 4-0 win over Venezia last Saturday, while Liverpool tripped over Nottm Forest and lost 1-0 at home.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Asiska02 on September 17, 2024, 09:42:19 PM
my beloved team, Atalanta, is already facing a really strong team, Arsenal
I don't know if Atalanta is ready to play the Champions League at a good level, but we will try
We didn't make such a bad impression against Real Madrid, after all we were playing with the defending champions
We will see

An Atalanta fan here, I like your enthusiasm about your team and how you’re so sure that they can do well in the champions league when facing a team like Arsenal. The game is going to be a tough one seeing how Atalanta played against Real Madrid in the Super Cup finals. If they can be as good as they were when they played in the Europa League, they can give Arsenal a tough time and can be the winner in this encounter. The champions league is such that you can’t actually have a good prediction on who the winner is, all teams try their best and they can come out good when you least expect it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on September 17, 2024, 10:30:04 PM
Odds for all the 6 today evening's games:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/17/ga8ff.png)

The biggest favourite is Bayern, who will be playing at home against Croatian champions, Dinamo Zagreb.
Bayern looked sharp in their last league game with Holstein-Kiel (they won 6-1), while Dinamo couldn't win any of their last 3 games. But who knows, maybe we'll see a football cinderella story tonight.
It's a fantastic first-half win for Bayern Munich. They have successfully won Dinamo Zagreb by 3 goals. I don't think they will stop at the 3 goals scored against Dinamo Zagreb because more goals are to come on the way against Dinamo Zagreb. However, let's see how Dinamo Zagreb will turn around the second-half table whether they are to concede more goals wins or try to reiterate in scoring back against Bayern Munch to reduce the score gap


It is very surprising that, second half of the match, Zagreb has scored against Bayern 2 goals, just a few minutes of the start of the second half. It is impossible that the match may end in a draw match with the way Zagreb is attacking Bayern
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on September 17, 2024, 10:39:44 PM
Real Madrid looks difficult to score goals, the current score Real Madrid 1-1 Stuttgart. I'm starting to doubt if Real Madrid can win UCL trophy again this season.

Bayern Munich looks very convincing, they are leading with 7 goals. It seems everyone to change their perspective about Bayern Munich. Under Kompany's management, Bayern Munich looks performing very impressive so far. They are leading Bundesliga standings and they seems to lead UCL league table as well.

Another match AC Milan vs Liverpool, Liverpool leads with 3 goals. AC Milan only could score 1 goal so far. I think Liverpool will win this match, it will be over soon.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on September 17, 2024, 11:12:09 PM
Real Madrid looks difficult to score goals, the current score Real Madrid 1-1 Stuttgart. I'm starting to doubt if Real Madrid can win UCL trophy again this season.
Real Madrid, as they usually did last season, still found a way to win. Endrick stole the headline for me, scoring the goal that seals the lead Real Madrid had after just coming on as a substitute and on his debut performance in the Champions League. Stuttgart players did very well all through the game until the final minutes; it looked like they ran out of gas.

Bayern Munich looks very convincing, they are leading with 7 goals. It seems everyone to change their perspective about Bayern Munich. Under Kompany's management, Bayern Munich looks performing very impressive so far. They are leading Bundesliga standings and they seems to lead UCL league table as well.
They ended the game with nine goals! I cannot wait to see this Bayern team against a big team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: debra on September 17, 2024, 11:19:16 PM
Real Madrid looks difficult to score goals, the current score Real Madrid 1-1 Stuttgart. I'm starting to doubt if Real Madrid can win UCL trophy again this season.
Real Madrid won the match. The final score was Real Madrid 3-1 VfB Stuttgart. Mbappe scored again in this match, he scored 1 goal. Endrick also scored 1 goal. These new strikers did good work today.

Bayern Munich looks very convincing, they are leading with 7 goals. It seems everyone to change their perspective about Bayern Munich. Under Kompany's management, Bayern Munich looks performing very impressive so far. They are leading Bundesliga standings and they seems to lead UCL league table as well.
Bayern Munich scored 9 goals. Kane scored 4 goals. It was a crazy match, Bayern Munich looks better now. I think Bayern Munich is very possible to reach the final round in this season. If they can keep good performance, they may be the champion in UCL this season. Nice game for Bayern Munich..




Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on September 17, 2024, 11:23:50 PM
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/17/gdTZl.png)
goolge/champions elague

The winners of the Champions League match on matchday 1 for several clubs that have played are in accordance with predictions. Juventus, Aston Villa, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Sporting, and also Liverpool. So far there have been no surprises that have shocked.

Bayern Munich this time is really a goal scorer, I didn't expect that they would really humiliate their opponents very well. Even 9 goals, and Harry Kane quattrick in this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on September 17, 2024, 11:24:12 PM
Real Madrid looks difficult to score goals, the current score Real Madrid 1-1 Stuttgart. I'm starting to doubt if Real Madrid can win UCL trophy again this season.
Real Madrid won the match. The final score was Real Madrid 3-1 VfB Stuttgart. Mbappe scored again in this match, he scored 1 goal. Endrick also scored 1 goal. These new strikers did good work today.
Real Madrid was able to seal up the game wirh their last goal from a super sub Endrick to ease the pressure their opponent was mounting on them. Assuming Stuttgart had a good finisher, they should have scored more goals. Real Madrid didn't play too good today but they were able to score three goals to get all three points.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on September 17, 2024, 11:36:19 PM
(...)
The biggest game is of course AC Milan Vs Liverpool. I have a feeling that despite being the favourite, Liverpool will not win it. After the bad start, Milan finally noted a decent game with a 4-0 win over Venezia last Saturday, while Liverpool tripped over Nottm Forest and lost 1-0 at home.

Damn, I'm really not good at predictions.
I haven't watched the game and can't find any decent highlights at the moment, but looking at the match stats, it was a walk in the park for Liverpool.
AC Milan scored an early one, but it didn't take long for the Reds to equalise and then take the lead.
Liverpool has almost 3 times more shots on goal and over 5 times more shots on target.
I guess Milan are not as good as I thought they are...

Has anyone seen the whole game? Was Liverpool as dominating as the stats suggest?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on September 17, 2024, 11:53:02 PM
(...)
The biggest game is of course AC Milan Vs Liverpool. I have a feeling that despite being the favourite, Liverpool will not win it. After the bad start, Milan finally noted a decent game with a 4-0 win over Venezia last Saturday, while Liverpool tripped over Nottm Forest and lost 1-0 at home.

Damn, I'm really not good at predictions.
I haven't watched the game and can't find any decent highlights at the moment, but looking at the match stats, it was a walk in the park for Liverpool.
AC Milan scored an early one, but it didn't take long for the Reds to equalise and then take the lead.
Liverpool has almost 3 times more shots on goal and over 5 times more shots on target.
I guess Milan are not as good as I thought they are...

Has anyone seen the whole game? Was Liverpool as dominating as the stats suggest?

Liverpool literally dominated the hell out of Milan. At a point, I was wondering who was at home and who was away. Good header from Van dijk and Konate. Liverpool really showed some quality tonight, and it's good to have them back in the game.
Aside that, the entire match day one fixtures were very exciting. Goals coming from both sides, except Villa that kept a clean sheet. Some teams choose not to be friendly in anyway, as they destroyed their opponent in a very embarrassing manner. We saw the qualities of Harry Kane today, as he better 4 goals for himself, making him the current highest goal scorer in the competition. I will be waiting for Haaland's response.

Today's games have been concluded. Over to those that will be in action tomorrow
(https://i.ibb.co/DzN7cH5/Screenshot-20240917-224758-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BcmgW5q)

I made some predictions earlier, but here is my new prediction:
Shakhtar Donetsk, Salzburg, Celtic, Dortmund and PSG to win. While City to draw Inter. Let's see how it goes.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on September 18, 2024, 11:01:10 AM
Bayern Munich looks very convincing, they are leading with 7 goals. It seems everyone to change their perspective about Bayern Munich. Under Kompany's management, Bayern Munich looks performing very impressive so far. They are leading Bundesliga standings and they seems to lead UCL league table as well.
Bayern Munich scored 9 goals. Kane scored 4 goals. It was a crazy match, Bayern Munich looks better now. I think Bayern Munich is very possible to reach the final round in this season. If they can keep good performance, they may be the champion in UCL this season. Nice game for Bayern Munich..

9 goals wow...Incredible, That's a top performance
The biggest Bayern win in their UCL history and the first team to score 9 goals in one game in UCL history
Harry Kane becomes the first player to score a hat-trick of penalties in a single UCL match and Vincent Kompany gets the biggest result ever by a coach in his UCL debut
Good start to surely a special season... Congrats
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on September 18, 2024, 12:45:36 PM
I've just watched the extended highlights of the Real Vs Stuttgart and frankly, despite the result, Stuttgart looked like a better team. They absolutely dominated the first half, they had a lot of great chances to score but were just out of luck.
The second half was more even and it was Real who came on the top, but we have to give Stuttgart a due credit. They played a really good football, dominated in ball possession and created better chances. If they keep playing like this, they could turn out to be a dark horse of this season UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on September 18, 2024, 03:12:02 PM
Bayern Munich looks very convincing, they are leading with 7 goals. It seems everyone to change their perspective about Bayern Munich. Under Kompany's management, Bayern Munich looks performing very impressive so far. They are leading Bundesliga standings and they seems to lead UCL league table as well.
Bayern Munich scored 9 goals. Kane scored 4 goals. It was a crazy match, Bayern Munich looks better now. I think Bayern Munich is very possible to reach the final round in this season. If they can keep good performance, they may be the champion in UCL this season. Nice game for Bayern Munich..

9 goals wow...Incredible, That's a top performance
The biggest Bayern win in their UCL history and the first team to score 9 goals in one game in UCL history
Harry Kane becomes the first player to score a hat-trick of penalties in a single UCL match and Vincent Kompany gets the biggest result ever by a coach in his UCL debut
Good start to surely a special season... Congrats

wow for real, really incredible.. 9 goals is so much
clearly they also exaggerated a little, they could have stopped after a while, scoring 9 goals also means humiliating the opponent
which certainly was totally owned

clearly one at the beginning says wow, but think about who lost, a real humiliation
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on September 18, 2024, 03:20:33 PM
I've just watched the extended highlights of the Real Vs Stuttgart and frankly, despite the result, Stuttgart looked like a better team. They absolutely dominated the first half, they had a lot of great chances to score but were just out of luck.
The second half was more even and it was Real who came on the top, but we have to give Stuttgart a due credit. They played a really good football, dominated in ball possession and created better chances. If they keep playing like this, they could turn out to be a dark horse of this season UCL.
Overall Stuttgart's game was good, it's just that they were not so strong in holding back the attacks launched by Real Madrid, on the other hand the attacks carried out by Real Madrid in this match were more effective than before.

The first 3 points for Real Madrid in the Champions League this season, this is a good step for them to face the next match in the Champions League, yes even though they still have problems with their squad.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on September 18, 2024, 06:25:05 PM
It started just as imagined and there werent really that many shocking results so far. Real Madrid got an easy win, which everyone assumed it would be like that anyway since stuttgart had absolutely no chance of winning that game unless some shocking miracle happened. Liverpool beat Milan as we assumed as well, sure Milan was once a big team and they won many titles but they are far away from that level right now. One big shock was Bayern Munich, while it was expected them to win, a 9 goal win was soöething nobody could assume, that was an epic game without a doubt
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on September 18, 2024, 07:44:09 PM
Here are the odds for today's Chamipons League matches (except for those 2 that have already started):

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/18/gSdHg.png)

Yesterday, all the favourites won their matches. I expect it could be the same story today, although it's statistically unlikely that there will not be a single surprise in so many games.
Man City Vs Inter is the biggest one, and I think the Italian team could cause some trouble to Guardiola's team. A lot will be down to the luck in this one.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 18, 2024, 10:06:29 PM
It looks like today's match is different from yesterday's opening match. In today's match, all teams appeared to be careful both in attacking and defending. especially in the PSG vs Girona match where there are still minimal attempts that can result in goals. Meanwhile, for the Man City vs Inter Milan match, both teams are still superior with their respective strategies so that no one has scored a goal. Maybe in the second half someone has to break the deadlock in today's match. Because 3 of today's 4 matches all still have a score of 0-0. Only the Celtic vs Slovan Bratislava match had the score showing superiority for one of the teams, namely with a score of 1-0 in the first half. Meanwhile, the PSG vs Girona, Club Brugge vs Dortmund matches and the Man City vs Inter match are all still 0-0. And now the second half begins, I hope there will be better excitement in the second half.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on September 18, 2024, 10:32:14 PM
Manchester vs Inter Milan - still a tense match several times attacks from both clubs to create goal opportunities but failed, and well indeed these two teams are strong when viewed in terms of their game.

Maybe the result will be goalless? Will Inter Milan surprise at the end? Inter Milan odds are big if they win bettors will be happy.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 18, 2024, 10:41:07 PM
Manchester vs Inter Milan - still a tense match several times attacks from both clubs to create goal opportunities but failed, and well indeed these two teams are strong when viewed in terms of their game.

Maybe the result will be goalless? Will Inter Milan surprise at the end? Inter Milan odds are big if they win bettors will be happy.
I think Simone Inzaghi will really make a surprise with Inter Milan in the UCL. because if Man City has difficulty penetrating Inter Milan's defense then I think other teams will definitely have more difficulty when facing Inter Milan. For today's match I am not sure whether Man City will score a goal. but I hope there will be goals in this match. because it's really quite boring. Similar things happened in other matches except for the Celtic vs Slovan match and the Club Brugge vs Dortmund match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on September 18, 2024, 10:44:40 PM
Maybe the result will be goalless? Will Inter Milan surprise at the end? Inter Milan odds are big if they win bettors will be happy.
This is definitely not the fixture we expect that no team will be able to find the next, I was almost picking this game to gamble on and putting a bet on both teams to score, but no goals still. This will not be how Pep Guardiola would have imagined his first game in the Champions League this season.

Girona have also not made it easy for PSG, who would have been expecting to be winning this home game. Many chances have been missed, and some saved by Girona's goalkeeper. I feel there will be a goal before the end.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 18, 2024, 10:54:37 PM
It seems like many will be disappointed if Man City fails to beat Inter Milan in today's match. Because this is a home match for Man City. But they still had difficulty scoring goals in today's match. Even now the time has entered additional minutes. And it looks like the score won't change. And the match will end in a draw. For Inter Milan a draw would still be quite good. Because being able to hold Man City to a draw will definitely be a matter of pride. And now the match has ended as I type this message. And yeah, Man City really couldn't do much in this match thanks to the strong defense built by Simone Inzaghi's troops.

Other matches have also ended. But only the Man City vs Inter Milan match ended in a goalless draw.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on September 18, 2024, 10:55:48 PM
Maybe the result will be goalless? Will Inter Milan surprise at the end? Inter Milan odds are big if they win bettors will be happy.
This is definitely not the fixture we expect that no team will be able to find the next, I was almost picking this game to gamble on and putting a bet on both teams to score, but no goals still. This will not be how Pep Guardiola would have imagined his first game in the Champions League this season.

Girona have also not made it easy for PSG, who would have been expecting to be winning this home game. Many chances have been missed, and some saved by Girona's goalkeeper. I feel there will be a goal before the end.
It ended that the Manchester vs Inter match ended with a draw that was an advantage for Inter Milan they could win 1 point at home to Manchester City.

But for bettors may not be happy.

PSG won due to an own goal from Girona goalkeeper? I didn't see the replay, maybe in a few minutes I'll know.

Dortmund did a good job in the second half.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on September 18, 2024, 10:59:24 PM
Bayern Munich scoring 9 goals and still nobody voting for them to win this season? ;D Just kidding. I know it's just one game but that shows a lot already and will continue boost their confidence as the tournament progresses. First day of matchday 1 must have been a great start for those who parlay all the big teams (favorites).
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on September 18, 2024, 11:17:48 PM
It ended that the Manchester vs Inter match ended with a draw that was an advantage for Inter Milan they could win 1 point at home to Manchester City.
This was a very tight match. Man City was very attacking, only, Inter gave tough resistance. Both really showed the ability of their respective top clubs in their leagues. Both had met before in the 2022/2023 Championa League final, only, Man City came out as the winner at that time. And now, Inter Milan was able to hold Man City to a very good draw.

Actually, there were many missed opportunities by both parties, even when Gundogan almost got his moment, only that was failed again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on September 18, 2024, 11:18:09 PM
It ended that the Manchester vs Inter match ended with a draw that was an advantage for Inter Milan they could win 1 point at home to Manchester City.
But for bettors may not be happy.
I think it is a fair result because Man City and Inter Milan are 2 strong teams. They get 1 point, there are still many chances to get more points. I think it is not a really bad result for both teams. Sure bettors aren't happy because they want Man City to win the match. But the result is a draw.  ;D

PSG won due to an own goal from Girona goalkeeper? I didn't see the replay, maybe in a few minutes I'll know.
Dortmund did a good job in the second half.
Even if PSG wins the match, it is not really satisfying because the goal was made by the mistake of Girona's goalkeeper. PSG made 26 shots, there is 1 goal only. They actually wasted too many shot attempts.

Dortmund successfully won the match after some changes in second half of the match. However, it is a great match for Dortmund. Winning with 3 goals is a good sign for them.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on September 18, 2024, 11:18:18 PM
It seems like many will be disappointed if Man City fails to beat Inter Milan in today's match. Because this is a home match for Man City. But they still had difficulty scoring goals in today's match.
Final Score
Man City   0   -   0 Inter Milan

It's draw.
Of course many people disappointed with the result, moreover the one who favorite Man City as the winner. I personally also prefer Man City as the winner of this match, like what happened in the previous match of Champions League. But this time, Man City performance was not that kind of optimal.

What's more annoying is that they can really attack repeatedly, but really it can all be thwarted by Inter Milan, cool though. Moreover, the accuracy of Man City's attacking lines this time is not too optimal. Haaland and his friends really have a hard time this time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 18, 2024, 11:19:57 PM
Bayern Munich scoring 9 goals and still nobody voting for them to win this season? ;D Just kidding. I know it's just one game but that shows a lot already and will continue boost their confidence as the tournament progresses. First day of matchday 1 must have been a great start for those who parlay all the big teams (favorites).
In fact, many match results went as expected. because every favorite team seems to have won the match. Only the Man City vs Inter Milan match has ended in a draw so far.

Their Bayern started superbly. But like previous seasons, Bayern are always not favorites at the start but then everyone will start to see Bayern as one of the strongest candidates to win the title when looking at the results of their matches in the UCL. But the problem is that Bayern always fails to reach the final. So it's natural that not many people favor them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on September 18, 2024, 11:40:34 PM
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The UEFA Champions League continued today, and the games just ended. From the result of today, it seems so many predictions were right. I got four of my predictions right from the reply I gave yesterday ahead of today's games.

I made some predictions earlier, but here is my new prediction:
Shakhtar Donetsk, Salzburg, Celtic, Dortmund and PSG to win. While City to draw Inter. Let's see how it goes.

Manchester city vs Inter Milan was the game of the night. My guts told me to predict a draw, because I know how things went down the last time in the UCl final. From today's game, city dominated inter, but where not lucky enough to score. Haaland's presence wasn't too felt as inter were defensively strong. I noticed fatigue among the players towards the late minute.of the game, which I think slow down the momentum. And surprisingly, foden didn't start today's game. Maybe his presence in the early hours of the game would have done something, but good job to inter for neutralizing city to an extent. They seem to rely on counter, and do more of the defensive work.

(https://i.ibb.co/YRLxH6k/Screenshot-20240918-223054-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HFHj50z)

So my final prediction for game day 1:
Leverkusen, Benfica, Arsenal, A.Madrid and Barcelona to win their games. I'm not familiar with Brest and Sturm Graz, so I will give them a draw. I understand that the Atalanta game won't be an easy fixture for the gunners, but I see them going back to the Emirates with all 3 points.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on September 18, 2024, 11:57:15 PM
It ended that the Manchester vs Inter match ended with a draw that was an advantage for Inter Milan they could win 1 point at home to Manchester City.
But for bettors may not be happy.
I think it is a fair result because Man City and Inter Milan are 2 strong teams. They get 1 point, there are still many chances to get more points. I think it is not a really bad result for both teams. Sure bettors aren't happy because they want Man City to win the match. But the result is a draw.  ;D
It's a fair result, but not a good result for Manchester City. Manchester City is at home, while Milan is playing away. The tension will be much for Manchester City when they play against Milan at their home because Milan will do their might to have 3 points win against Manchester City. What Manchester City will think of is to defend and have a counterattack against Milan
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on September 19, 2024, 08:13:01 AM
Final Score
Man City   0   -   0 Inter Milan

It's draw.
Of course many people disappointed with the result, moreover the one who favorite Man City as the winner. I personally also prefer Man City as the winner of this match, like what happened in the previous match of Champions League. But this time, Man City performance was not that kind of optimal.

What's more annoying is that they can really attack repeatedly, but really it can all be thwarted by Inter Milan, cool though. Moreover, the accuracy of Man City's attacking lines this time is not too optimal. Haaland and his friends really have a hard time this time.

City looked good in their new shirt but not in the field, What a boring game.
Shocking tactics how can playing slow for 80 and then decide want to speed the game up?
And I don’t know what Pep sees in Grealish that makes him start him all the time, Doku is better on the left wing. Grealish is so fond of making back passes. No incisive passes at all, Doku is way more effective there.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Bhigdaddy on September 19, 2024, 10:37:19 AM
I've just watched the extended highlights of the Real Vs Stuttgart and frankly, despite the result, Stuttgart looked like a better team. They absolutely dominated the first half, they had a lot of great chances to score but were just out of luck.
The second half was more even and it was Real who came on the top, but we have to give Stuttgart a due credit. They played a really good football, dominated in ball possession and created better chances. If they keep playing like this, they could turn out to be a dark horse of this season UCL.
You should know Real Madrid by now, Madrid will never do the playing, they only score and that the most important thing in matches. In recent years especially during this Carlo Ancelloti time, Madrid only win matches for you and that it.

Like your said Stuttgart played well but for them to beat Madrid at Santiago Benebaue will be a dream that is almost impossible but it football Sha anything can happen.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: joniboini on September 19, 2024, 02:36:23 PM
You should know Real Madrid by now, Madrid will never do the playing, they only score and that the most important thing in matches. In recent years especially during this Carlo Ancelloti time, Madrid only win matches for you and that it.
I agree with this. I think their fans like that, but the way they play can get a bit tiring to watch for neutral since it's hard to entertain people just because you score. I don't think things can change much though. Changing the coach doesn't guarantee that will change how they play, not to mention most of their fans want to win a match. It's enough to win trophies including the UCL, but I wish they played entertaining matches more often.

City looked good in their new shirt but not in the field, What a boring game.
Surprisingly, my feeds are full of people complaining about their shirts.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on September 19, 2024, 02:42:10 PM
It seems like many will be disappointed if Man City fails to beat Inter Milan in today's match. Because this is a home match for Man City. But they still had difficulty scoring goals in today's match.
Final Score
Man City   0   -   0 Inter Milan

It's draw.
Of course many people disappointed with the result, moreover the one who favorite Man City as the winner. I personally also prefer Man City as the winner of this match, like what happened in the previous match of Champions League. But this time, Man City performance was not that kind of optimal.

What's more annoying is that they can really attack repeatedly, but really it can all be thwarted by Inter Milan, cool though. Moreover, the accuracy of Man City's attacking lines this time is not too optimal. Haaland and his friends really have a hard time this time.

definitely boring match, which I didn't see
however there is some important information to extrapolate
Either Manchester City has lost a little strength, or Inter Milan has gained some to reach the level of Pep Guardiola's team
This information is useful to me for the next bets I want to make
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on September 19, 2024, 03:03:04 PM
Final Score
Man City   0   -   0 Inter Milan

It's draw.
Of course many people disappointed with the result, moreover the one who favorite Man City as the winner. I personally also prefer Man City as the winner of this match, like what happened in the previous match of Champions League. But this time, Man City performance was not that kind of optimal.

What's more annoying is that they can really attack repeatedly, but really it can all be thwarted by Inter Milan, cool though. Moreover, the accuracy of Man City's attacking lines this time is not too optimal. Haaland and his friends really have a hard time this time.

City looked good in their new shirt but not in the field, What a boring game.
Shocking tactics how can playing slow for 80 and then decide want to speed the game up?
And I don’t know what Pep sees in Grealish that makes him start him all the time, Doku is better on the left wing. Grealish is so fond of making back passes. No incisive passes at all, Doku is way more effective there.
If we look at their previous meeting in the Champions League final, Manchester City could only score 1 goal, from there we can see how Inter Milan's defense also worked well even though they had to lose 1 goal which made them lose.

Well, in this match, Inter Milan can certainly anticipate what Manchester City can do and they managed to implement it well. In my opinion, this draw is beneficial for Inter Milan because they managed to steal points from one of the away games they played.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on September 19, 2024, 04:09:45 PM
It ended that the Manchester vs Inter match ended with a draw that was an advantage for Inter Milan they could win 1 point at home to Manchester City.
This was a very tight match. Man City was very attacking, only, Inter gave tough resistance. Both really showed the ability of their respective top clubs in their leagues. Both had met before in the 2022/2023 Championa League final, only, Man City came out as the winner at that time. And now, Inter Milan was able to hold Man City to a very good draw.

Actually, there were many missed opportunities by both parties, even when Gundogan almost got his moment, only that was failed again.
Inter is the best club currently in Seria A and you don't expect them to be defeated by City again after they have learnt their mistakes from the finals which City won them two seasons ago. It was a good result because none of the clubs conceded any goal but they played very well even though some good chances were loat. Inter goalkeeper is very good ans we saw how many times that he stopped City balls from entering his post. It is quite unbelievable that no goal was scored in this match even with Haaland on the pitch.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on September 19, 2024, 04:22:59 PM
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If we look at their previous meeting in the Champions League final, Manchester City could only score 1 goal, from there we can see how Inter Milan's defense also worked well even though they had to lose 1 goal which made them lose.

Well, in this match, Inter Milan can certainly anticipate what Manchester City can do and they managed to implement it well. In my opinion, this draw is beneficial for Inter Milan because they managed to steal points from one of the away games they played.

Yep. A great start for Inter in their first game in the Champions League Inter played well, they could have hurt City but the Nerazzurri failed to convert the chances into goals.
There is something Inzaghi needs to improve, at least in the final third of the pitch, Inter needs to show the skill and technique they do have in the squad.
And congratulations to Nicolo Barella for the Man of the Match in this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on September 19, 2024, 05:57:47 PM
Yep. A great start for Inter in their first game in the Champions League Inter played well, they could have hurt City but the Nerazzurri failed to convert the chances into goals.
There is something Inzaghi needs to improve, at least in the final third of the pitch, Inter needs to show the skill and technique they do have in the squad.
And congratulations to Nicolo Barella for the Man of the Match in this match.
Watching the match highlight, Inter Milan looks dominance against Manchester City and success being draw as away match, Henrikh Mkhitaryan have very good opportunity for scoring goal but his shots too high and Inter Milan just getting one away point for UEFA Champion league opening match. Inter Milan have many difficult opponent team will face in Champion League because have to face Arsenal and Bayern Leverkusen are left difficult teams.
But success being draw against Manchester City have chance lead the top eight position place and directly qualify to knock out round if won't playing on play off round anymore.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on September 19, 2024, 06:12:48 PM
Yep. A great start for Inter in their first game in the Champions League Inter played well, they could have hurt City but the Nerazzurri failed to convert the chances into goals.
There is something Inzaghi needs to improve, at least in the final third of the pitch, Inter needs to show the skill and technique they do have in the squad.
And congratulations to Nicolo Barella for the Man of the Match in this match.

If not for the fact that Haaland ghosted himself yesterday, Manchester City had more opportunity to be converted than Inter, they did try considering it was a home match to City but they couldn't return the pressure and they forsake defense for attack and that's how they couldn't manage to score a goal yesterday but if Onana were to be in Inter yesterday, the story will be different now.

Neither Inter or Manchester City I think has done well in this match, both teams have a good play in their respective domestic league but just one point, remember that to have a point here is very important to move forward in the Champions League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on September 19, 2024, 06:26:40 PM
So here we are, the last day of the first round of the new, group stage.
Here are the odds for today's games:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/19/gQD2f.png)

The most interesting match for the most is probably Monaco Vs Barcelona, but personally, I'm more interested in Atalanta Vs Arsenal. Atalanta might not be doing that great in the Serie A (9th place after 4 rounds, 2 wins and 2 losses), but they've won the Europa League cup last season, so should not be underestimated, especially when playing at home.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on September 19, 2024, 08:02:01 PM
Manchester City failing to win definitely looked weak for them and very good for Inter and I believe that this could mean something for City and their future as well. I am not saying that they will be bad or anything, obviously they will be good and they will go far but I doubt they will win the whole thing and will fail to lift tge trophy. The main reason is that they built a team that dominates and destroys the hell out of teams smaller than them and been like that fır many seasons but whebever they meet a team that is evem remoteky in their vicinity they end up getting harder time winning and that is why when its quarter finals or semi finals they will end up losing this season as well. I can be wrong too, I just assume it will be very tough for them
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on September 19, 2024, 09:02:37 PM
So here we are, the last day of the first round of the new, group stage.
Here are the odds for today's games:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/09/19/gQD2f.png)

The most interesting match for the most is probably Monaco Vs Barcelona, but personally, I'm more interested in Atalanta Vs Arsenal. Atalanta might not be doing that great in the Serie A (9th place after 4 rounds, 2 wins and 2 losses), but they've won the Europa League cup last season, so should not be underestimated, especially when playing at home.
Leverkusen have already played their own match and they won Feyenoord 4-0.
Atalanta should not be understimated but them winning Europa is not a criterion than they will outperform Arsenal who is in a good form. One problem that I have with Arsenal is that they're unpredictable in UCL. The game has kcked off and in no time we will see who wins the match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 19, 2024, 09:06:43 PM
Man City and Inter Milan both showed a strong level of defense. And they actually also showed a pretty good level of attack too. But because their strengths can be said to be quite balanced at the moment, it is natural to see them draw without a goal. But at first I thought Man City could win the match but it turns out that Inter Milan can always surprise us. Because their strength is always something to be reckoned with.

Meanwhile, about Girona vs PSG. The match was quite tough for Girona. Meanwhile for PSG they are also having quite a difficult time. But PSG's difficulty is only in scoring goals or completing attacks. Meanwhile, Girona, on the other hand, had difficulty building attacks because they also couldn't lose focus on their defense.

Currently the Atalanta vs Arsenal match has started
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on September 19, 2024, 09:53:49 PM
Currently the Atalanta vs Arsenal match has started
This is halftime, and the game is goalless. Atalanta started the game very promising and dominated the possession, but Atalanta settled in and created some chances for themselves. The second half will be more serious, Arsenal will try to make more attacking changes, trying Trossard in Martinelli's place to increase our scoring chances since he has been our best goal scorer.

Barcelona, in their own game against Monaco, have done well to ensure that even with the red card, they did not let Monaco dominate them so much that they will not be able to score. Barcelona will still win that game; the Barcelona players are serious minded.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 19, 2024, 10:08:01 PM
Barcelona, in their own game against Monaco, have done well to ensure that even with the red card, they did not let Monaco dominate them so much that they will not be able to score. Barcelona will still win that game; the Barcelona players are serious minded.
There is still a chance for Barcelona to win this match even though it will be very difficult because they can only rely on 10 players. but seeing how they responded to the goal in the first half, they should have been able to score again in the second half.

Apart from Barcelona who managed to equalize the score in the first half. It turns out that Atletico Madrid also managed to do the same thing by equalizing the score at 1-1 in the match against Leipzig.

So the temporary scores for the 4 matches currently taking place are as follows

- Brest vs Sturm (score 1-1 in the first half)
- Atalanta vs Arsenal (score 0-0 in the first half)
- Atletico Madrid vs Leipzig (score 1-1 in the first half)
- Monaco vs Barcelona (score 1-1 in the first half)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on September 19, 2024, 10:37:38 PM
Barcelona, in their own game against Monaco, have done well to ensure that even with the red card, they did not let Monaco dominate them so much that they will not be able to score. Barcelona will still win that game; the Barcelona players are serious minded.
There is still a chance for Barcelona to win this match even though it will be very difficult because they can only rely on 10 players. but seeing how they responded to the goal in the first half, they should have been able to score again in the second half.
Yeah it's unfortunate that Barcelona are down to 10 men and now they're a goal down again to Monaco, it wasn't the game we wanted but it happened because Eric Garcia was given a red card.

Not a good start for Barcelona, if they manage to hold a draw in this match then that's good enough, if Barcelona didn't have a red card then their game could be more attacking and win this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 19, 2024, 10:44:29 PM
There is still a chance for Barcelona to win this match even though it will be very difficult because they can only rely on 10 players. but seeing how they responded to the goal in the first half, they should have been able to score again in the second half.
Yeah it's unfortunate that Barcelona are down to 10 men and now they're a goal down again to Monaco, it wasn't the game we wanted but it happened because Eric Garcia was given a red card.

Not a good start for Barcelona, if they manage to hold a draw in this match then that's good enough, if Barcelona didn't have a red card then their game could be more attacking and win this match.
Well this is really very unfortunate. Because it looks like Barcelona is very unlucky in today's match. Because losing 1 player due to a red card in the early minutes is really detrimental to them. Now they are even left behind. Because the current score is 2-1. and it looks like Barcelona must now try again to equalize the goal in this match. This is really a quite tense match for Barcelona. Because unexpectedly they had to undergo a difficult match like this.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on September 19, 2024, 11:08:12 PM
This was a very tight match. Man City was very attacking, only, Inter gave tough resistance. Both really showed the ability of their respective top clubs in their leagues. Both had met before in the 2022/2023 Championa League final, only, Man City came out as the winner at that time. And now, Inter Milan was able to hold Man City to a very good draw.

Actually, there were many missed opportunities by both parties, even when Gundogan almost got his moment, only that was failed again.
Inter is the best club currently in Seria A and you don't expect them to be defeated by City again after they have learnt their mistakes from the finals which City won them two seasons ago. It was a good result because none of the clubs conceded any goal but they played very well even though some good chances were loat. Inter goalkeeper is very good ans we saw how many times that he stopped City balls from entering his post. It is quite unbelievable that no goal was scored in this match even with Haaland on the pitch.
That's why it became a tough match. And draw is the best result for them. At least they will try much better to gain more full points in the next matches, and they are able to.

Yeah it's unfortunate that Barcelona are down to 10 men and now they're a goal down again to Monaco, it wasn't the game we wanted but it happened because Eric Garcia was given a red card.
Barcelona was really unlucky this time. They should have had a much bigger chance to win, but the world said otherwise. In the end, after only playing with 10 players, it was an incredibly difficult thing, because this is the UCL class. Even though their opponent was Monaco, it doesn't mean they are considered easy. This is why the UCL match is always interesting. Barcelona's defeat makes us realize that sometimes the match is not as expected, but once again, Barcelona was really unlucky this time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on September 19, 2024, 11:27:19 PM
How did your bet go? It looks like many lost their bets from the latest matches ;D Honestly, I would have parlayed Leverkusen, Arsenal, and Barca but good thing I got busy and forgot about the games.

Looking at the Monaco - Barca stats, I think they're lucky enough to lose only by one goal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on September 19, 2024, 11:31:14 PM
There is still a chance for Barcelona to win this match even though it will be very difficult because they can only rely on 10 players. but seeing how they responded to the goal in the first half, they should have been able to score again in the second half.
Yeah it's unfortunate that Barcelona are down to 10 men and now they're a goal down again to Monaco, it wasn't the game we wanted but it happened because Eric Garcia was given a red card.

Not a good start for Barcelona, if they manage to hold a draw in this match then that's good enough, if Barcelona didn't have a red card then their game could be more attacking and win this match.
Well this is really very unfortunate. Because it looks like Barcelona is very unlucky in today's match. Because losing 1 player due to a red card in the early minutes is really detrimental to them. Now they are even left behind. Because the current score is 2-1. and it looks like Barcelona must now try again to equalize the goal in this match. This is really a quite tense match for Barcelona. Because unexpectedly they had to undergo a difficult match like this.
This is really unlucky... :(
Barcelona lost points in the match, because most people this team will win it, it seems like Barcelona's path in UCL will be difficult in the upcoming match they will face a tough team, Bayern Munich even though playing at home we know how Bayern humiliated Barcelona before with a big score.
If Barcelona loses points again then it will be even more difficult.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: vegasus on September 19, 2024, 11:49:26 PM
How did your bet go? It looks like many lost their bets from the latest matches ;D Honestly, I would have parlayed Leverkusen, Arsenal, and Barca but good thing I got busy and forgot about the games.

Looking at the Monaco - Barca stats, I think they're lucky enough to lose only by one goal.
I think many people lost this time. Yes, because Barcelona must be favored to win against Monaco, right? But Lady Luck was not on their side. Because of a red card, everything was ruined. wkwkkwkw

Luckily I didn't make a bet like this, but seeing how many comments there were on social media, it was quite varied, various curses of defeat were there and also disappointment.

Actually, Barcelona always fought well, it's just that once again, this was really bad luck.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on September 19, 2024, 11:51:15 PM
I called it. I knew it won't be an easy game for Arsenal, they were the favourite but should be lucky to earn even that 1 point. The major credit for that goes to Arsenal's goalkeeper, Raya who made a fantastic double save of Retegui's penalty. Retegui should've done better on that rebound, he seemed to have enough time to take a better aim with that header, but it went right in the middle of the goal, making it possible for Raya to save it.
Apparently it was Atalanta's first ever goalless draw in their Champion's League history. What's a bit strange, it's Arsenal's 3rd away Champion's League game in a row, when they failed to score a goal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on September 19, 2024, 11:58:10 PM
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Actually, Barcelona always fought well, it's just that once again, this was really bad luck.
I don't know about bad luck but I agree that they still fought well despite the numerical disadvantage. Who would have thought they could still equalize and hold on for so long. If the red card happened in the last 20 or even 30 minutes, they would probably get away with a point.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: joniboini on September 20, 2024, 04:11:31 AM
I don't know about bad luck but I agree that they still fought well despite the numerical disadvantage. Who would have thought they could still equalize and hold on for so long. If the red card happened in the last 20 or even 30 minutes, they would probably get away with a point.
I think we can agree that the poor performance from Ter Stegen cost the game to some extent. People argued that he should have saved that second shot, considering it's not a tricky shot. He did manage to touch the ball but failed to punch it properly. I do agree with that analysis. You could even argue that he played a huge role in the red card too.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on September 20, 2024, 02:33:19 PM
How did your bet go? It looks like many lost their bets from the latest matches ;D Honestly, I would have parlayed Leverkusen, Arsenal, and Barca but good thing I got busy and forgot about the games.

Looking at the Monaco - Barca stats, I think they're lucky enough to lose only by one goal.
I think many people lost this time. Yes, because Barcelona must be favored to win against Monaco, right? But Lady Luck was not on their side. Because of a red card, everything was ruined. wkwkkwkw

Luckily I didn't make a bet like this, but seeing how many comments there were on social media, it was quite varied, various curses of defeat were there and also disappointment.

Actually, Barcelona always fought well, it's just that once again, this was really bad luck.

Yes but I see them playing more. relaxed and even more aggressive than last year.
I see them in form with Robert Lewandwski truly inspired and never seems to want to stop.
Very lucky for Barcelona to have him as a striker, truly an excellent element to have in the team.   
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on September 20, 2024, 04:49:17 PM
If we look at their previous meeting in the Champions League final, Manchester City could only score 1 goal, from there we can see how Inter Milan's defense also worked well even though they had to lose 1 goal which made them lose.

Well, in this match, Inter Milan can certainly anticipate what Manchester City can do and they managed to implement it well. In my opinion, this draw is beneficial for Inter Milan because they managed to steal points from one of the away games they played.

Yep. A great start for Inter in their first game in the Champions League Inter played well, they could have hurt City but the Nerazzurri failed to convert the chances into goals.
There is something Inzaghi needs to improve, at least in the final third of the pitch, Inter needs to show the skill and technique they do have in the squad.
And congratulations to Nicolo Barella for the Man of the Match in this match.
There should always be an evaluation after finishing a match, whether it is a big evaluation or just a few evaluations that they have to do, in this case it is the final settlement.

I think this will not only be experienced by Inter Milan, because Manchester City must do the same thing. Pep Guardiola will certainly not remain silent seeing this result, because this must be a loss for them because one of their home games failed to get full points.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on September 20, 2024, 05:26:22 PM
I called it. I knew it won't be an easy game for Arsenal, they were the favourite but should be lucky to earn even that 1 point. The major credit for that goes to Arsenal's goalkeeper, Raya who made a fantastic double save of Retegui's penalty. Retegui should've done better on that rebound, he seemed to have enough time to take a better aim with that header, but it went right in the middle of the goal, making it possible for Raya to save it.
Apparently it was Atalanta's first ever goalless draw in their Champion's League history. What's a bit strange, it's Arsenal's 3rd away Champion's League game in a row, when they failed to score a goal.

With yesterday's performance from the gunners, I've began to question their champions league mentality. Atalanta really dominated arsenal. They where literally operating through the arsenal's defense through the wings, though arsenal continue to prove their quality defensive wise. Jorginho hasn't being his best for sometime now, and I noticed that in yesterday's game. I also noticed that arsenal couldn't complete their passes in the game. Well, I think they where lucky enough snatch a point, and all thanks to raya for that brilliant save.

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Actually, Barcelona always fought well, it's just that once again, this was really bad luck.
I don't know about bad luck but I agree that they still fought well despite the numerical disadvantage. Who would have thought they could still equalize and hold on for so long. If the red card happened in the last 20 or even 30 minutes, they would probably get away with a point.

That red card actually changed the game. I was even surprised to see Barce score before the 30minn of the game, which actually gave me a better hope that they will secure 3 points, but sadly, they didn't. I wouldn't blame ten stegen much, because that was a one-on-one play, which means there was a 50% chance that he could save that shot. Barce defense were a little bit high, leaving the opponents number 9 in an exposed position, which lead to that late win for Monaco. There are still more games to come. Wishing barce the best in their next game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 20, 2024, 06:08:26 PM
Barcelona really played outside their plan. Because they were forced to face Monaco by relying on only 10 players. Hansi Flick really cannot be blamed for Barcelona's defeat in that match. Because this defeat is quite normal. Because after all, playing with only 10 players since the first half must have been a very difficult moment for the Barcelona squad and also for Hansi Flick who had to re-arrange his strategy. But just losing by a narrow score is proof that Barcelona will be able to win if they play with 11 players. And yes, we can hope that Barcelona will win in the next matches.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on September 20, 2024, 06:12:18 PM
I think many people lost this time. Yes, because Barcelona must be favored to win against Monaco, right? But Lady Luck was not on their side. Because of a red card, everything was ruined. wkwkkwkw

Luckily I didn't make a bet like this, but seeing how many comments there were on social media, it was quite varied, various curses of defeat were there and also disappointment.

Actually, Barcelona always fought well, it's just that once again, this was really bad luck.
Unbeaten five matches in domestic league make Barcelona become favorite team against Monaco, but early red card receiving by Eric Garcia make Barcelona difficult anticipation huge pressure from AS Monaco players and become first loss in this season. Barcelona must secure seven matches left with three points if won't kicking out more early because new format very difficult reach the higher top position standings who 8 top teams are directly qualify.
Have many weeks left for second match in Champion League, Hansi Flick must winning next match because have many difficult matches left in Champion League phase round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on September 20, 2024, 06:19:04 PM
I called it. I knew it won't be an easy game for Arsenal, they were the favourite but should be lucky to earn even that 1 point. The major credit for that goes to Arsenal's goalkeeper, Raya who made a fantastic double save of Retegui's penalty. Retegui should've done better on that rebound, he seemed to have enough time to take a better aim with that header, but it went right in the middle of the goal, making it possible for Raya to save it.
Apparently it was Atalanta's first ever goalless draw in their Champion's League history. What's a bit strange, it's Arsenal's 3rd away Champion's League game in a row, when they failed to score a goal.

Fantastic saves from Raya. He's been immense so far this season but we know a club performs poorly if their goalkeeper is their man of the match.
And If everyone in this team puts in a shift the David Raya is doing, then Arsenal is destined for great things.
Unfortunately, the players are not creative and no longer Impose themselves in games.
Arteta needs to improve on the attack, it seems they are playing just defensive football these days.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 20, 2024, 06:45:45 PM
Atletico Madrid, which was 1 goal behind at the start, has made those of us who bet on them a little pessimistic. But fortunately Atletico Madrid was able to turn things around and win the match. And I am quite optimistic that in the next match Atletico Madrid will also be successful in winning the match again. Because their next opponent is Benfica and I don't think it will be a big threat to this team. even though Benfica is a pretty strong club. But with a very capable squad depth, Atletico Madrid should not lose to Benfica in the next match.

Atalanta and Arsenal must be willing to share points in this match. And actually Arsenal might not get full points in their next match against PSG. Because PSG is a tough team that is difficult to beat. It's just that because Arsenal are the hosts in the next match, Arteta's hopes of getting full points in that match are quite high.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on September 20, 2024, 08:12:02 PM
Leverkusen definitely looks like they are doing great at the moment and won this game as well and that is why I think its going to be something that will take a while for it to grow bigger as well. I think we should be considering this getting a different result because they can't be this good for a very long time, I mean sure they are good but they look like they are awesome and great, like one of the biggest teams and that is why I think we should be considering this to get worse eventually, or at least it should.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on September 20, 2024, 08:53:23 PM
Atalanta and Arsenal must be willing to share points in this match. And actually Arsenal might not get full points in their next match against PSG. Because PSG is a tough team that is difficult to beat. It's just that because Arsenal are the hosts in the next match, Arteta's hopes of getting full points in that match are quite high.
PSG is a big team, but PSG are not unbeatable. Arsenal can do the task if we can find a creative option in our midfield. That Atalanta game was a game for Arteta to try out Ethan Nwaneri since Fabio Veira is already on loan and Merino is still unable to play. Maybe he will have a chance in the game against PSG; I just hope he is not overwhelmed when he has his shot.  PSG should be conscious of Arsenal as much as Arsenal is conscious of them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on September 20, 2024, 09:01:15 PM
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Unbeaten five matches in domestic league make Barcelona become favorite team against Monaco, but early red card receiving by Eric Garcia make Barcelona difficult anticipation huge pressure from AS Monaco players and become first loss in this season. Barcelona must secure seven matches left with three points if won't kicking out more early because new format very difficult reach the higher top position standings who 8 top teams are directly qualify.
Have many weeks left for second match in Champion League, Hansi Flick must winning next match because have many difficult matches left in Champion League phase round.

I'm not sure if winning all 7 games(21 points),  might be the only ticket to qualifying for the next round, but I think they should try their best to do that so as to be on a safer side. Games that involves red card usually don't go well for the team at fault, because they are with a player down, which means they must compete with only 10 players. If that red card was actually issued late, I think Barce would have find a way to win the game, but unfortunately Monaco had all 3 points. In football, we win some, while other times lose some.

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The image above shows all teams that barce will come against, and Bayern happens to be a very strong side and the biggest test. Let's see how they will manage the game as a team that is currently on form.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on September 20, 2024, 10:27:40 PM
If we look at their previous meeting in the Champions League final, Manchester City could only score 1 goal, from there we can see how Inter Milan's defense also worked well even though they had to lose 1 goal which made them lose.

Well, in this match, Inter Milan can certainly anticipate what Manchester City can do and they managed to implement it well. In my opinion, this draw is beneficial for Inter Milan because they managed to steal points from one of the away games they played.

Yep. A great start for Inter in their first game in the Champions League Inter played well, they could have hurt City but the Nerazzurri failed to convert the chances into goals.
There is something Inzaghi needs to improve, at least in the final third of the pitch, Inter needs to show the skill and technique they do have in the squad.
And congratulations to Nicolo Barella for the Man of the Match in this match.
There should always be an evaluation after finishing a match, whether it is a big evaluation or just a few evaluations that they have to do, in this case it is the final settlement.

I think this will not only be experienced by Inter Milan, because Manchester City must do the same thing. Pep Guardiola will certainly not remain silent seeing this result, because this must be a loss for them because one of their home games failed to get full points.
I was thinking that City will win at home with their current performance in EPL but I was wrong because Inter defense was so strong that they deprived City from penetrating their defense which led to a goalless draw. However, both teams game was balanced and none of them made any mistakes that would have cost them to lose the match. Personally, I think that this season in UCL might be a big challenge for City who couldn't their first match at home but choose to share points with the away team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on September 20, 2024, 10:34:24 PM
Atalanta and Arsenal must be willing to share points in this match. And actually Arsenal might not get full points in their next match against PSG. Because PSG is a tough team that is difficult to beat. It's just that because Arsenal are the hosts in the next match, Arteta's hopes of getting full points in that match are quite high.
PSG is a big team, but PSG are not unbeatable. Arsenal can do the task if we can find a creative option in our midfield. That Atalanta game was a game for Arteta to try out Ethan Nwaneri since Fabio Veira is already on loan and Merino is still unable to play. Maybe he will have a chance in the game against PSG; I just hope he is not overwhelmed when he has his shot.  PSG should be conscious of Arsenal as much as Arsenal is conscious of them.
Arsenal vs PSG which is the favorite then of course Arsenal.
It is true that PSG is a big team that always brings in expensive players but in UCL matches they always struggle and they can only survive winning streaks in their own league.
Now Arsenal are much better than my own view so it should be a win at home, but the match will be interesting and PSG could win, but I'm not sure about that. :D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on September 20, 2024, 11:22:23 PM
Barcelona really played outside their plan. Because they were forced to face Monaco by relying on only 10 players. Hansi Flick really cannot be blamed for Barcelona's defeat in that match. Because this defeat is quite normal. Because after all, playing with only 10 players since the first half must have been a very difficult moment for the Barcelona squad and also for Hansi Flick who had to re-arrange his strategy. But just losing by a narrow score is proof that Barcelona will be able to win if they play with 11 players. And yes, we can hope that Barcelona will win in the next matches.
I think Hansi Flick has planned everything well. But the players in the field did a very bad mistake. I don't know why the goalkeeper did a fool mistake, it leads to a red card got by Eric Garcia. I don't blame Eric Garcia, he may think to try stop the players from scoring a goal. It was purely a mistake done by Ter Stegen.

Yep, it is very difficult to play with 10 players. Moreover, it is in the Monaco home. Monaco has an extra support, they have more players in the field as well. I think we can understand if Barcelona got a defeat in this match. Well, Barcelona still has many chances to get points in the next matches.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on September 20, 2024, 11:36:02 PM
Arsenal vs PSG which is the favorite then of course Arsenal.
It is true that PSG is a big team that always brings in expensive players but in UCL matches they always struggle and they can only survive winning streaks in their own league.
If Arsenal can really be that optimal, maybe they will win against PSG. but if their performance is like when they played against Atalanta in the first match, well, it might not be that optimal. PSG, even without Mbappe, is also a top club that must be watched out for. Arsenal on the other hand, but they are not consistent enough, and if they are as bad as when they could not optimize various chances like against Atalanta, maybe they will also fail against PSG later. Arteta must prepare his squad more tightly so that they really have a much more solid and high motivation to achieve more wins
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 20, 2024, 11:47:06 PM
Atalanta and Arsenal must be willing to share points in this match. And actually Arsenal might not get full points in their next match against PSG. Because PSG is a tough team that is difficult to beat. It's just that because Arsenal are the hosts in the next match, Arteta's hopes of getting full points in that match are quite high.
PSG is a big team, but PSG are not unbeatable. Arsenal can do the task if we can find a creative option in our midfield. That Atalanta game was a game for Arteta to try out Ethan Nwaneri since Fabio Veira is already on loan and Merino is still unable to play. Maybe he will have a chance in the game against PSG; I just hope he is not overwhelmed when he has his shot.  PSG should be conscious of Arsenal as much as Arsenal is conscious of them.
Yeah right. And if we remember again, Arsenal did not play with maximum strength in their match against Atalanta. Because Odegaard is still absent due to injury. And it seems that Odegaard's role as captain at Arsenal is quite influential. So Arteta also used a slightly different strategy in the match against Atalanta.

But in the next UCL match, I'm sure Arsenal will play with maximum strength. Because by then it is likely that Odegaard will also have recovered from his injury. So Arsenal and PSG will definitely play fiercely.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on September 21, 2024, 11:52:04 AM
Barcelona really played outside their plan. Because they were forced to face Monaco by relying on only 10 players. Hansi Flick really cannot be blamed for Barcelona's defeat in that match. Because this defeat is quite normal. Because after all, playing with only 10 players since the first half must have been a very difficult moment for the Barcelona squad and also for Hansi Flick who had to re-arrange his strategy. But just losing by a narrow score is proof that Barcelona will be able to win if they play with 11 players. And yes, we can hope that Barcelona will win in the next matches.
I think Hansi Flick has planned everything well. But the players in the field did a very bad mistake. I don't know why the goalkeeper did a fool mistake, it leads to a red card got by Eric Garcia. I don't blame Eric Garcia, he may think to try stop the players from scoring a goal. It was purely a mistake done by Ter Stegen.


That red card completely ruined the game for Barca. sad facts
But the team showed fight and character after going down to 10, they still managed to put up a good fight. Lamine Yamal was fantastic.
Now that the game has passed, the players can learn from their mistakes and make sure that the same mistakes are not repeated.
Let's make it count recover, and go back to work. The next game will be interesting.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on September 21, 2024, 05:22:16 PM
There should always be an evaluation after finishing a match, whether it is a big evaluation or just a few evaluations that they have to do, in this case it is the final settlement.

I think this will not only be experienced by Inter Milan, because Manchester City must do the same thing. Pep Guardiola will certainly not remain silent seeing this result, because this must be a loss for them because one of their home games failed to get full points.
I was thinking that City will win at home with their current performance in EPL but I was wrong because Inter defense was so strong that they deprived City from penetrating their defense which led to a goalless draw. However, both teams game was balanced and none of them made any mistakes that would have cost them to lose the match. Personally, I think that this season in UCL might be a big challenge for City who couldn't their first match at home but choose to share points with the away team.
That's the important point, both teams did not make mistakes that made them suffer defeat, be it Manchester City or Inter Milan. Both played with very high discipline so they could minimize mistakes.

Actually, what makes a team have to suffer defeat in a tight match like this is because of their own mistakes. The defense they created worked well and that finally made both teams have to share points.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on September 21, 2024, 09:01:05 PM
There should always be an evaluation after finishing a match, whether it is a big evaluation or just a few evaluations that they have to do, in this case it is the final settlement.

I think this will not only be experienced by Inter Milan, because Manchester City must do the same thing. Pep Guardiola will certainly not remain silent seeing this result, because this must be a loss for them because one of their home games failed to get full points.
I was thinking that City will win at home with their current performance in EPL but I was wrong because Inter defense was so strong that they deprived City from penetrating their defense which led to a goalless draw. However, both teams game was balanced and none of them made any mistakes that would have cost them to lose the match. Personally, I think that this season in UCL might be a big challenge for City who couldn't their first match at home but choose to share points with the away team.
That's the important point, both teams did not make mistakes that made them suffer defeat, be it Manchester City or Inter Milan. Both played with very high discipline so they could minimize mistakes.

Actually, what makes a team have to suffer defeat in a tight match like this is because of their own mistakes. The defense they created worked well and that finally made both teams have to share points.
Sharing point shows that none of them currently is stonger than the other. Another match that baffles me is that of Arsenal vs Atalanta, I was expecting Arsenal to win Atalanta but it Atalanta was good and take their European games more serious than their domestic games because in Seria A Atalanta does not always play better compared to European competitions. Arsenal should try their best to win their next UCL match because it is important for them let it no be that what people are sayong about Arsenal poor performance in UCL is true.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on September 21, 2024, 09:58:46 PM
That red card completely ruined the game for Barca. sad facts
But the team showed fight and character after going down to 10, they still managed to put up a good fight. Lamine Yamal was fantastic.
Now that the game has passed, the players can learn from their mistakes and make sure that the same mistakes are not repeated.
Let's make it count recover, and go back to work. The next game will be interesting.

Scoring goal immediately been given a red card shows how strong the team is against other teams. They would have tarnish Monaco by many goals but the red card ruin the party and instead of focusing on the goal, they were defending at the same time couldn't do much but they show commitment that's why they had that goal scorer by Yawal Lamine.

If they can okay 10 man with an additional goal, the team can make a come back and if they win their next match tomorrow against Villareal then win, there is every tendency they are still in form, Champions League was just a distraction from their success but they will come back and stronger.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 21, 2024, 10:06:08 PM
Barcelona really played outside their plan. Because they were forced to face Monaco by relying on only 10 players. Hansi Flick really cannot be blamed for Barcelona's defeat in that match. Because this defeat is quite normal. Because after all, playing with only 10 players since the first half must have been a very difficult moment for the Barcelona squad and also for Hansi Flick who had to re-arrange his strategy. But just losing by a narrow score is proof that Barcelona will be able to win if they play with 11 players. And yes, we can hope that Barcelona will win in the next matches.
I think Hansi Flick has planned everything well. But the players in the field did a very bad mistake. I don't know why the goalkeeper did a fool mistake, it leads to a red card got by Eric Garcia. I don't blame Eric Garcia, he may think to try stop the players from scoring a goal. It was purely a mistake done by Ter Stegen.

Yep, it is very difficult to play with 10 players. Moreover, it is in the Monaco home. Monaco has an extra support, they have more players in the field as well. I think we can understand if Barcelona got a defeat in this match. Well, Barcelona still has many chances to get points in the next matches.
Yes, it is true that there was a mistake at that moment which caused Barcelona to lose 1 player due to a red card. But one important fact is that Barcelona can play quite normally when facing Monaco. As if Barcelona were playing with 11 players. Unfortunately, it can be said that Monaco is in its best performance even in the Bundesliga. So Barcelona still won't be able to win by relying on 10 players. But yes, there are still many opportunities for Barcelona to collect points in the next matches.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on September 21, 2024, 11:42:23 PM
With this new format of the Champions league, I believe that we are yet to know how these teams are faring. If we judge based on the last format, we would have been knowing which teams are likely going to join the Europa league. But with the current format, you can be surprised how far the table will change by the next round. In order for a team to succeed in this format, they most be somwhat consistent throughout the Champions league.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Bhigdaddyjr on September 22, 2024, 02:40:29 AM
I think many people lost this time. Yes, because Barcelona must be favored to win against Monaco, right? But Lady Luck was not on their side. Because of a red card, everything was ruined. wkwkkwkw

Luckily I didn't make a bet like this, but seeing how many comments there were on social media, it was quite varied, various curses of defeat were there and also disappointment.

Actually, Barcelona always fought well, it's just that once again, this was really bad luck.
Unbeaten five matches in domestic league make Barcelona become favorite team against Monaco, but early red card receiving by Eric Garcia make Barcelona difficult anticipation huge pressure from AS Monaco players and become first loss in this season. Barcelona must secure seven matches left with three points if won't kicking out more early because new format very difficult reach the higher top position standings who 8 top teams are directly qualify.
Have many weeks left for second match in Champion League, Hansi Flick must winning next match because have many difficult matches left in Champion League phase round.
Barcelona's unbeaten start to the new campaign came to an end on Thursday in their Champions League opener against AS Monaco at the Stade Louis II. The Catalans lost 2-1. Barça played catch-up the rest of the game and, despite playing nearly the whole match with 10 men, were unable to salvage at least a point after Eric García was sent off after just 10 minutes.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on September 22, 2024, 09:02:39 AM
That red card completely ruined the game for Barca. sad facts
But the team showed fight and character after going down to 10, they still managed to put up a good fight. Lamine Yamal was fantastic.
Now that the game has passed, the players can learn from their mistakes and make sure that the same mistakes are not repeated.
Let's make it count recover, and go back to work. The next game will be interesting.

Scoring goal immediately been given a red card shows how strong the team is against other teams. They would have tarnish Monaco by many goals but the red card ruin the party and instead of focusing on the goal, they were defending at the same time couldn't do much but they show commitment that's why they had that goal scorer by Yawal Lamine.

If they can okay 10 man with an additional goal, the team can make a come back and if they win their next match tomorrow against Villareal then win, there is every tendency they are still in form, Champions League was just a distraction from their success but they will come back and stronger.

Football is the best game in the world, and also a tough game. So go out there and have fun :)
Always ready for an exciting match, the next opponent, Villarreal.
Villarreal are known for their tactical discipline and strong attacking play, especially their ability to counter quickly.
Both teams are in top form and Villarreal will be a tough challenge for Barcelona, ​​but I feel Barcelona might edge it out with their current momentum.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on September 22, 2024, 03:59:41 PM
That's the important point, both teams did not make mistakes that made them suffer defeat, be it Manchester City or Inter Milan. Both played with very high discipline so they could minimize mistakes.

Actually, what makes a team have to suffer defeat in a tight match like this is because of their own mistakes. The defense they created worked well and that finally made both teams have to share points.
Sharing point shows that none of them currently is stonger than the other. Another match that baffles me is that of Arsenal vs Atalanta, I was expecting Arsenal to win Atalanta but it Atalanta was good and take their European games more serious than their domestic games because in Seria A Atalanta does not always play better compared to European competitions. Arsenal should try their best to win their next UCL match because it is important for them let it no be that what people are sayong about Arsenal poor performance in UCL is true.
Statistically they drew, so this result is a fair result for both teams. But Arsenal did not play as usual, it seems like what happened in their squad has had quite an effect.

There is still time, this is only the first match for them in the Champions League. They have to focus on looking at the next match, because it will be a very crucial point. It is quite difficult with this new format if you want to qualify directly without playing a play-off match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 24, 2024, 09:23:19 PM
The draw that Arsenal got in their first UCL match was actually not that disappointing. Because we are all used to seeing the surprises that Italian teams always present. Likewise, Barcelona's defeat by Monaco was not that surprising. Because this defeat can be said to be quite natural. because Barcelona played with only 10 players for almost the entire match from the start of the first half. Because in normal time Barcelona only plays with 11 players for 10 minutes. And the rest they played with 10 players until the match was over. In fact, I want to give appreciation to Barcelona because they didn't concede many goals when they were in a difficult position. because a lack of players on the field is usually a big problem for other teams. I think Arsenal and Barcelona will both win in the next match. But Arsenal was a little unlucky because in the next match a very strong enemy awaited them, namely PSG.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on September 25, 2024, 11:29:50 PM
With this new format of the Champions league, I believe that we are yet to know how these teams are faring.
Every team must adapts with the new format. This looks harder because they need to play more matches. Every coach must be careful to use the players, the coach needs to rotate the players. This is the only way to avoid injured or fatigue. However, for the fans, I think this new format makes it more interesting.

Barcelona's unbeaten start to the new campaign came to an end on Thursday in their Champions League opener against AS Monaco at the Stade Louis II.
Barcelona is still unbeaten in domestic competition. But in UCL, Barcelona still couldn't win a single match. It is the first match in UCL, Barcelona was defeated by Monaco. Barcelona may not really focus on UCL, they seems to priority the La Liga.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: joniboini on September 26, 2024, 04:52:18 AM
Barcelona is still unbeaten in domestic competition. But in UCL, Barcelona still couldn't win a single match. It is the first match in UCL, Barcelona was defeated by Monaco. Barcelona may not really focus on UCL, they seems to priority the La Liga.
I believe it's still too early to say anything about their UCl form, not to mention they got a red card on that first match. I think it's too quick to judge they're not trying to compete in the UCL just because of that. You could even argue that Ter Stegen's mistakes cost them that match, but the rest of the players tried to score even after they were down to 10 men.

I think I've made the same comment about this on another forum. The consensus seems to be that Barca is still one of the favorites to go through the league stage and probably end up in the quarter or semi-final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on September 26, 2024, 08:21:00 PM
Barcelona is still unbeaten in domestic competition. But in UCL, Barcelona still couldn't win a single match. It is the first match in UCL, Barcelona was defeated by Monaco. Barcelona may not really focus on UCL, they seems to priority the La Liga.
I believe it's still too early to say anything about their UCl form, not to mention they got a red card on that first match. I think it's too quick to judge they're not trying to compete in the UCL just because of that. You could even argue that Ter Stegen's mistakes cost them that match, but the rest of the players tried to score even after they were down to 10 men.

I think I've made the same comment about this on another forum. The consensus seems to be that Barca is still one of the favorites to go through the league stage and probably end up in the quarter or semi-final.
Yes, their defeat was inseparable from the red card they received at the beginning of the match, so it became more difficult for them because they had to face a team that was superior in number of players.

Any team will have difficulty if they lack players and even that happened when the time was only a few minutes after the first half kick off. They still have many opportunities, because this is only their first match, as long as they can play well in the remaining 7 matches.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on September 26, 2024, 09:48:14 PM
Barcelona may not really focus on UCL, they seems to priority the La Liga.
Barcelona have won the champions league before, if there is another opportunity to win another one, I am sure they will gladly take it. Don't interpret or take Barcelona's first game in the Champions League to mean that they are not so interested in it, many teams have lost their first games in a competition and went on to win it, Barcelona have a squad and a coach that can do that. Barcelona remains one of the contenders for the champions League this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on September 26, 2024, 09:56:59 PM
Barcelona may not really focus on UCL, they seems to priority the La Liga.
Barcelona have won the champions league before, if there is another opportunity to win another one, I am sure they will gladly take it. Don't interpret or take Barcelona's first game in the Champions League to mean that they are not so interested in it, many teams have lost their first games in a competition and went on to win it, Barcelona have a squad and a coach that can do that. Barcelona remains one of the contenders for the champions League this season.

Of course he has won the Champions League in the past, but he doesn't consider it a primary objective.
In Italy it was Milan that always had priority over the Champions League and the other teams, like Barcelona, ​​gave priority to something else.
A question of priority, not of the skill of the team or the coach
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 26, 2024, 11:45:59 PM
In the new UCL system we see that strong teams are just more careful when playing against other strong teams. Well, because there were lots of matches between strong teams that took place at the start of the UCL this time. Thanks to this new format we can see Man City and Inter Milan even meet earlier. And in the next match we will also see a strong team against another strong team, namely Arsenal will face PSG. Yes, and there are several other matches that seem to deliberately bring together the big teams first. The new system is actually quite easy to understand, but actually I am more comfortable with the old system. Although the new system can provide more interesting challenges for all teams and make it fair for all teams. But for big teams they will try not to lose points from the start. And a draw is much better for them when facing other strong teams.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on September 27, 2024, 07:41:17 AM
In any case I don't like this new format. More matches are played but the teams are tired, they are people not machines and consequently this is reflected in the quality of the matches played
we're trading quantity for quality, so they can get more TV rights... I don't like it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Nheer on September 27, 2024, 09:05:23 AM
In any case I don't like this new format. More matches are played but the teams are tired, they are people not machines and consequently this is reflected in the quality of the matches played
we're trading quantity for quality, so they can get more TV rights... I don't like it.
You are absolutely right, these players are not machines and with too much work load they will definitely knock down along the way. They are not considerate of how this will affect the players they are just selfish about their own benefits.

The Champions League old format was very simple and straightforward and with lesser matches to play which made it easy for coaches to manage their players fatigue level but with this new format it will be difficult to manage the fatigue level which will see a lot of players out injured.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on September 27, 2024, 02:51:13 PM
In any case I don't like this new format. More matches are played but the teams are tired, they are people not machines and consequently this is reflected in the quality of the matches played
we're trading quantity for quality, so they can get more TV rights... I don't like it.
You are absolutely right, these players are not machines and with too much work load they will definitely knock down along the way. They are not considerate of how this will affect the players they are just selfish about their own benefits.

The Champions League old format was very simple and straightforward and with lesser matches to play which made it easy for coaches to manage their players fatigue level but with this new format it will be difficult to manage the fatigue level which will see a lot of players out injured.


Good thing I'm not the only one who thought this way because I was feeling a bit stupid
but as you play more, should you be happier?
no they are not because they are all played by tired players and therefore I just find less quality..
less quality for me means less fun!
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on September 27, 2024, 06:04:15 PM
In any case I don't like this new format. More matches are played but the teams are tired, they are people not machines and consequently this is reflected in the quality of the matches played
we're trading quantity for quality, so they can get more TV rights... I don't like it.
Ah, that's right... you have the same thoughts as me, sir. I also feel more suited to the old format. Looking at the system currently used, it only makes the UCL like an ordinary domestic league. And the previous system was much simpler.

But somehow I have to get used to this new format. And maybe as time goes by I will get used to it and start to like it too.  ;D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on September 27, 2024, 06:51:50 PM
In any case I don't like this new format. More matches are played but the teams are tired, they are people not machines and consequently this is reflected in the quality of the matches played
we're trading quantity for quality, so they can get more TV rights... I don't like it.
Ah, that's right... you have the same thoughts as me, sir. I also feel more suited to the old format. Looking at the system currently used, it only makes the UCL like an ordinary domestic league. And the previous system was much simpler.

But somehow I have to get used to this new format. And maybe as time goes by I will get used to it and start to like it too.  ;D
Yes, this will definitely happen, when you are used to the old format, then there will be pros and cons when switching to the new format. We have talked about this a lot, even before the season started.

But whatever has happened now, and as you said, we have to get used to this new format. Although we will see the players have a tighter schedule and that will definitely drain their energy.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on September 27, 2024, 07:28:56 PM
Personally, I do not have much issue with the expansion of CL and the new format that's necessary to accommodate the four new teams. For the top 8, the additional 2 games (from 6 to 8) would not really make much of a difference. For the knockout phase (teams 9th to 16th), I prefer only one instead of the current two-legged playoff.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on September 27, 2024, 07:29:37 PM
In any case I don't like this new format. More matches are played but the teams are tired, they are people not machines and consequently this is reflected in the quality of the matches played
we're trading quantity for quality, so they can get more TV rights... I don't like it.
You are absolutely right, these players are not machines and with too much work load they will definitely knock down along the way. They are not considerate of how this will affect the players they are just selfish about their own benefits.

The Champions League old format was very simple and straightforward and with lesser matches to play which made it easy for coaches to manage their players fatigue level but with this new format it will be difficult to manage the fatigue level which will see a lot of players out injured.


Good thing I'm not the only one who thought this way because I was feeling a bit stupid
but as you play more, should you be happier?
no they are not because they are all played by tired players and therefore I just find less quality..
less quality for me means less fun!

If you actually check some of my old replies on this thread, you will definitely find some compliant I made before the competition started. I clearly don't understand why the football governing ball would allow this. It's obvious that they want to reduce the quality of the UEFA champions league, because I don't understand why a team will have to play 8 games just for the so called group stage. Some players like Rodri from Manchester city has made complaint sometime last season concerning the too many number of games, and now UEFA has added more, just to entertain more participants. We haven't even talked about teams that don't have good squad depth.

If at the end of the day, we start seeing draws in most of the games, then I won't be surprised at all, because these players are literally playing both their league games, domestic cups, and even going for international break where they also have to feature in a national friendly/competition. Let's just assume that UEFA wants to check out how well the new strategy will work, and they might make a review and decide if to continue with it or not after the end of the season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on September 27, 2024, 08:22:34 PM
Can't wait to watch the Champions League matches again this week.

There was one parlay bet that was disappointed because it had to lose due to some of the teams entered not winning, maybe this time I will try a few matches but the bet is a single bet rather than with multi bets.

Because it is quite difficult to choose a team sometimes cannot be predicted, yeah maybe a single bet will be better.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on September 27, 2024, 08:45:55 PM
Can't wait to watch the Champions League matches again this week.

There was one parlay bet that was disappointed because it had to lose due to some of the teams entered not winning, maybe this time I will try a few matches but the bet is a single bet rather than with multi bets.

Because it is quite difficult to choose a team sometimes cannot be predicted, yeah maybe a single bet will be better.

I will advice that you select 4-5 games, rather than just betting a single game. Though, due to too many teams in the competition, there are some games that we might not want to go for because there are some underdogs in this competition.

We can't just bet multiple games based on what we think. This is champions league, where every team is willing to pull up a surprise, even if it has to be against a every professional side.

Take game like Monaco vs Barcelona for example. It ended in 2-1 in favor of Monaco. Monaco here were the underdogs, as they proved that the UEFA champions league is a competition where anybody can take the win. So I won't advice that you should book a single game just because you think that they might likely win. But rather, just take a better risk by adding few games to it, even if the certainty isn't there.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on September 27, 2024, 11:15:19 PM
In any case I don't like this new format. More matches are played but the teams are tired, they are people not machines and consequently this is reflected in the quality of the matches played
we're trading quantity for quality, so they can get more TV rights... I don't like it.
Yep, more matches in UCL makes a big challenge for any team. They must deal with the possibility of fatigue and injury problem. I personally assume the previous format is better, but I think UEFA wants to have a new challenging format. With more matches, the teams must have a good way in rotating the whole players. In this way, substituted players will have a big role as well.

True, the players are human, they aren't machine. If there are too many matches, they will easily get injured or feel tired to play. Considering this, how EPL teams to deal with this challenge? In EPL there are more domestic competitions, they must be very busy because of the new UCL format.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on September 28, 2024, 08:13:45 AM
Yep, more matches in UCL makes a big challenge for any team. They must deal with the possibility of fatigue and injury problem. I personally assume the previous format is better, but I think UEFA wants to have a new challenging format. With more matches, the teams must have a good way in rotating the whole players. In this way, substituted players will have a big role as well.

True, the players are human, they aren't machine. If there are too many matches, they will easily get injured or feel tired to play. Considering this, how EPL teams to deal with this challenge? In EPL there are more domestic competitions, they must be very busy because of the new UCL format.
Coaches must have many options, because they have to do a lot of rotation to maintain the fitness of their players, not to mention when they are hit by a storm of injuries, it will certainly be very difficult for them.

Actually, some time ago there was also a protest about the tight schedule, even before the new Champions League format was implemented. But in fact all of that did not get any response.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on October 01, 2024, 08:47:24 AM
Coming up this week!
(https://i.ibb.co.com/sgQhw7Q/Champion-League.png)


Arsenal vs PSG
Leverkusen vs Milan
Aston Villa vs Bayern Munchen
Benfica vs Atletico
Leipzig vs Juventus
Liverpool vs Bologna

6 Good matches for betting?


The Leverkusen vs Milan duel is predicted to be heated. Because at the press conference, Xabi Alonso had made Paulo Fonseca angry.
Interestingly, this is the first meeting of the two clubs in European competition.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Foden on October 01, 2024, 10:12:54 AM
Coming up this week!
(https://i.ibb.co.com/sgQhw7Q/Champion-League.png)


Arsenal vs PSG
Leverkusen vs Milan
Aston Villa vs Bayern Munchen
Benfica vs Atletico
Leipzig vs Juventus
Liverpool vs Bologna

6 Good matches for betting?


The Leverkusen vs Milan duel is predicted to be heated. Because at the press conference, Xabi Alonso had made Paulo Fonseca angry.
Interestingly, this is the first meeting of the two clubs in European competition.
yeah a perfect match to bet on I hope the bet come in winnings . Trying to bet on this team is really a good idea and I trust it will be a great opportunity to win a good price but atleast bet with what you can afford to lose . I guess this week will be perfect and hopefully week
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 01, 2024, 12:02:04 PM
Ah, that's right... you have the same thoughts as me, sir. I also feel more suited to the old format. Looking at the system currently used, it only makes the UCL like an ordinary domestic league. And the previous system was much simpler.

But somehow I have to get used to this new format. And maybe as time goes by I will get used to it and start to like it too.  ;D
Yes, this will definitely happen, when you are used to the old format, then there will be pros and cons when switching to the new format. We have talked about this a lot, even before the season started.

But whatever has happened now, and as you said, we have to get used to this new format. Although we will see the players have a tighter schedule and that will definitely drain their energy.
Well, in the end we have to get used to or get used to this. But there is also a positive thing that can be obtained, namely that we can see a fierce match from the start. Namely, several strong teams met earlier with this new format.

Don't forget that today the UCL match will start again. And the match I am most looking forward to is the Arsenal vs PSG match. I think the heat in this match will really be felt.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on October 01, 2024, 12:07:03 PM
If you actually check some of my old replies on this thread, you will definitely find some compliant I made before the competition started. I clearly don't understand why the football governing ball would allow this. It's obvious that they want to reduce the quality of the UEFA champions league, because I don't understand why a team will have to play 8 games just for the so called group stage. Some players like Rodri from Manchester city has made complaint sometime last season concerning the too many number of games, and now UEFA has added more, just to entertain more participants. We haven't even talked about teams that don't have good squad depth.

If at the end of the day, we start seeing draws in most of the games, then I won't be surprised at all, because these players are literally playing both their league games, domestic cups, and even going for international break where they also have to feature in a national friendly/competition. Let's just assume that UEFA wants to check out how well the new strategy will work, and they might make a review and decide if to continue with it or not after the end of the season.

I trust what you say, because it is objective and not subjective.
Clearly the football market is greedy and pushes for more and more money, with ever higher wages and ever higher compensation.
This can't last forever.
Subscriptions cost a lot and not everyone can afford them.
This will break sooner or later...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on October 01, 2024, 07:13:54 PM
Don't forget that today the UCL match will start again. And the match I am most looking forward to is the Arsenal vs PSG match. I think the heat in this match will really be felt.
Super big match Arsenal vs PSG, its first time for both teams face each other in Champion League but Arsenal failed secure three points on the first match. Difficult for predicting will PSG continue the winning in Champion League because Arsenal have advantage with playing home and have consistent performance in domestic league.
I am waiting two match have to watch as Barcelona's fans waiting to watch our favorite team but in other side Arsenal vs PSG become most interested match regarding both teams have top performance and have many star players.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on October 01, 2024, 07:41:15 PM
I believe Arsenal started to look better, PSG isn't bad neither, betting on this game isn't an easy one and should be quite tough. I believe that we are going to see a ton of mistakes done by both teams because the stress will be high and everyone will be looking into this as some of the most important games on the group stages and we should probably see mistakes decide the game. In that regard, PSG makes easier mistakes and I feel like Arsenal makes mistakes too but they will make less. Hopefully it will be a fun game and I am going to avoid betting for now, just don't feel like I know what will happen.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on October 01, 2024, 08:23:35 PM
I believe Arsenal started to look better, PSG isn't bad neither, betting on this game isn't an easy one and should be quite tough. I believe that we are going to see a ton of mistakes done by both teams because the stress will be high and everyone will be looking into this as some of the most important games on the group stages and we should probably see mistakes decide the game. In that regard, PSG makes easier mistakes and I feel like Arsenal makes mistakes too but they will make less. Hopefully it will be a fun game and I am going to avoid betting for now, just don't feel like I know what will happen.

The arsenal's defense always show their quality especially when playing against a big side. The game is quite difficult to predict, but I might just give it to arsenal considering the fact that they are at home. And the lineup was released few minutes ago, which wasn't different from what they used against Leicester city on Saturday. Dembele won't be in action, so the arsenal defense have more advantage. And Merino makes the list of players to feature tonight, but he is currently on the bench. Good luck to both sides.

And for those that are currently playing, surprisingly, brest is leading RB Salzburg by 3 goals to nothing. This is a team that I don't even rate much. They've successfully secured 6 points in the two UCl games they've featured and are currently topping the UCl table. This is the same team that struggles in the French league one. Well, UCl is full of surprises. Good luck to the others that will be in action.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Foden on October 01, 2024, 09:25:22 PM
Wow a wonderful performance from lewandoski a perfect assist from rafinha . We expect more goals from Yamal also he has been performing greatly and also moving on the highes goal scorer.
Barcelona seems to have more advantage on young boys we pray they finish this up as soon as possible . Barca are really proving more possessions on the match we expect more goals soon
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 01, 2024, 09:27:03 PM
Well, at the moment Arsenal is winning against a PSG team that I see is having a hard time getting out of where it is. Arsenal is a team that is attacking and attacking, Arsenal is besieging them and wherever the PSG goalkeeper goes, they attack him. You can really see the desire of this team. It's only been 26 minutes of the game and everything they're doing looks interesting. Therefore, the attacks that PSG are making are not forceful enough, they are committing fouls or something, they are feeling pressed by PSG. What is going through Luis Enrique's mind?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: MainIbem on October 01, 2024, 09:41:20 PM
Well, at the moment Arsenal is winning against a PSG team that I see is having a hard time getting out of where it is. Arsenal is a team that is attacking and attacking, Arsenal is besieging them and wherever the PSG goalkeeper goes, they attack him. You can really see the desire of this team. It's only been 26 minutes of the game and everything they're doing looks interesting. Therefore, the attacks that PSG are making are not forceful enough, they are committing fouls or something, they are feeling pressed by PSG. What is going through Luis Enrique's mind?
The bookies were right to give PSG a bigger odds than Arsenal, I was wondering why the gave PSG 5 odds but now I see why, Arsenal performance shows it all they're really a team to be worried about, Arteta has shaped Arsenal to very fierce and bold enough to face other big teams, from the stats I think Arsenal are the favourites to score the next goal, they're leading by 2 goals now and could add another one before the end of the 1st half. PSG might be more possessive in the game but they're not putting enough energy to find the back of the next they've had 4 shots with only 1 on target whereas, Arsenal have 2 out of their 3 shots so far.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on October 01, 2024, 10:26:42 PM
Well, at the moment Arsenal is winning against a PSG team that I see is having a hard time getting out of where it is. Arsenal is a team that is attacking and attacking, Arsenal is besieging them and wherever the PSG goalkeeper goes, they attack him. You can really see the desire of this team. It's only been 26 minutes of the game and everything they're doing looks interesting. Therefore, the attacks that PSG are making are not forceful enough, they are committing fouls or something, they are feeling pressed by PSG. What is going through Luis Enrique's mind?
The bookies were right to give PSG a bigger odds than Arsenal, I was wondering why the gave PSG 5 odds but now I see why, Arsenal performance shows it all they're really a team to be worried about, Arteta has shaped Arsenal to very fierce and bold enough to face other big teams, from the stats I think Arsenal are the favourites to score the next goal, they're leading by 2 goals now and could add another one before the end of the 1st half. PSG might be more possessive in the game but they're not putting enough energy to find the back of the next they've had 4 shots with only 1 on target whereas, Arsenal have 2 out of their 3 shots so far.
PSG is weak in defense and they don't also have good strikers who can easily score goals when he has the opportunities. Their attackers are very weak and lack creativity of converting their chances into goals. Arsenal is taking advantage of their weaknesses currently in this match to favor themselves.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on October 01, 2024, 10:43:51 PM
Wow a wonderful performance from lewandoski a perfect assist from rafinha . We expect more goals from Yamal also he has been performing greatly and also moving on the highes goal scorer.
Barcelona seems to have more advantage on young boys we pray they finish this up as soon as possible . Barca are really proving more possessions on the match we expect more goals soon
Let's call it a match-win for the Barcelona team because they are already leading with 5 goals against Young Boys in 10 minutes to stoppage time.  Lewandoski scored 2 goals, while Raphinha and Martinez scored the remaining two goals, plus the OG conceded.

I already predicted the match to be must win for the Barcelona team because they can't afford to lose to Young Boys that is no match for them to have good football wins
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Asiska02 on October 01, 2024, 10:54:50 PM
I believe Arsenal started to look better, PSG isn't bad neither, betting on this game isn't an easy one and should be quite tough. I believe that we are going to see a ton of mistakes done by both teams because the stress will be high and everyone will be looking into this as some of the most important games on the group stages and we should probably see mistakes decide the game. In that regard, PSG makes easier mistakes and I feel like Arsenal makes mistakes too but they will make less. Hopefully it will be a fun game and I am going to avoid betting for now, just don't feel like I know what will happen.

This game is very hard to decide because both teams are really good and you can’t tell which of them will prevail in this match. They are both doing well in their respective leagues and maintaining the top positions on the table. The Arsenal two goals lead that was recorded in the first half of the game was not something even I expected to happen. Arsenal winning and dominating the game was something of shock because I expected PSG to do better to keep their chances in the league high. Seeing results like this could weak their morale, hope they do better in their coming games and not conceded goals as they did in this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Foden on October 01, 2024, 10:58:18 PM
Dortmund performance was very superb today they really played a very excellent game. The goals being scored was unbelievable no one expected the match to be like this . An accurate performance from them .
Adeyemi scored hat-rick a very superb goal , adeyemi is a consistent player with a lot of potential, he really worked for the goal and he got it . Celtic a try there best but unfortunately it was all in vein the match was closed 7:1 . Guirassy scores a perfunctory goal also he did well with the two goals the match was unbelievable and unpredictable.
Dortmund really performed very impressive
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on October 01, 2024, 11:34:08 PM
I really enjoyed today's game I must same. Beautiful football from Manchester city, Arsenal, Barcelona, Dortmund, Inter and few others that won in style. Wasn't a pleasant day for some top teams like ac milan, as they failed to get a point. Leverkusen was able to snatch all 3 points with a goal from their striker(Boniface). Lewandowski can't just stop scoring as he netted twice for Barcelona, and they ended up winning the game with 5goals to nothing.

Arsenal on the hand played well, but with less possession, as they took their chances In the first half. Goals from havertz and Saka gave arsenal their first ucl win this season. Manchester city as well also got their first win, after drawing to inter in their last game. The ucl table is gradually taking shape, but some games awaits us tomorrow.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on October 01, 2024, 11:54:35 PM
I really enjoyed today's game I must same. Beautiful football from Manchester city, Arsenal, Barcelona, Dortmund, Inter and few others that won in style.
Yes, all of them, those top clubs' results are indeed in accordance with predictions. And the gamblers who bet on them are certainly in the mood right now. There have been no surprising matches so far. Maybe PSG and Arsenal, but I think from the start Arsenal will still be superior to PSG, whether they are with a full team or not. The point is Arsenal has also won against PSG 0 - 2.

Not only that, the results of the number of goals that each of the top clubs won were all with a large number of goals. They really optimized their chances to have a goal party.

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La Liga source google

Now just waiting for the results of the other top clubs' matches which are certainly also highly anticipated, namely: Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, and also Bayern. If you look at their opponents, the three top clubs should normally win. But on the field, no one knows. Hopefully there will be no carelessness in the match. Because this is the UCL where every club must really optimize their chances.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on October 01, 2024, 11:56:56 PM
What looked like a potentially even game, turned out to be a totally one-sided performance. Borussia humiliated Scottish champions by destroying them 7-1. Celtic managed to respond to Dortmund's first goal only two minutes later, with Maeda equalising 1-1 (by what looked like a goal scored with an elbow to me, but whatever), but it was downhill from there.
Celtic looked really pale, like they were multiple levels below, especially in terms of mistakes they were making in defence. I think they just mentally gave up around 40th minute when they lost the 4th goal.

Borussia is now leading the table with six points and unlikely will be topped by any other team tomorrow as they now have +9 goal difference unless Bayern manages to win with more than 2 goals advantage against Aston Villa tomorrow, but I seriously doubt that. Bayern is the bookies' favourite, but my money would go on Villa.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on October 02, 2024, 10:27:48 AM
What looked like a potentially even game, turned out to be a totally one-sided performance. Borussia humiliated Scottish champions by destroying them 7-1. Celtic managed to respond to Dortmund's first goal only two minutes later, with Maeda equalising 1-1 (by what looked like a goal scored with an elbow to me, but whatever), but it was downhill from there.
Celtic looked really pale, like they were multiple levels below, especially in terms of mistakes they were making in defence. I think they just mentally gave up around 40th minute when they lost the 4th goal.


What a fantastic night by Dortmund, Karim Adeyemi made a hat trick in the first half, A man on fire...
The entire range of attacking firepower was displayed at Westfalenstadion, Everything for the attack, Passion with aggression.
Pure class is written in all the performances in this match, Celtic will remember Dortmund for a long time
Danke Dortmund for this attacking football, and Thank you, Sahin for his work.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Woodie on October 02, 2024, 12:08:16 PM
I think last night's games seem to have been easy to predict, 90% of the games went in favour of the bookies favourite which tells me Tuesday games are easy to predict unlike what follows through for Wednesday and Thursday, as can be seen from the other weeks results.

Disappointed with that PSG result because I thought they would catch Arsenal napping, but instead it's PSG that was caught napping to allow them 2 first half goals  :'(

RB Salzburg also produced a disappointing performance to be beaten 4 nil at home which was clearly not a champions league performance!

Barcelona, Manchester City, Dortmund all breezed through easily and I expect this to continue and find themselves in the group of 16
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Foden on October 02, 2024, 01:41:09 PM
I think last night's games seem to have been easy to predict, 90% of the games went in favour of the bookies favourite which tells me Tuesday games are easy to predict unlike what follows through for Wednesday and Thursday, as can be seen from the other weeks results.

Disappointed with that PSG result because I thought they would catch Arsenal napping, but instead it's PSG that was caught napping to allow them 2 first half goals  :'(

RB Salzburg also produced a disappointing performance to be beaten 4 nil at home which was clearly not a champions league performance!

Barcelona, Manchester City, Dortmund all breezed through easily and I expect this to continue and find themselves in the group of 16
yesterdays match all were very impressive a lot of goals and assist many chances and passes. Almost all the match played yesterday scored very amazing goals and they all score more than usual , the performance were very unbelievable from the teams. Teams should keep going like this I guess even the least player will be encouraged and very committed to the teams
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on October 02, 2024, 03:16:56 PM
I think last night's games seem to have been easy to predict, 90% of the games went in favour of the bookies favourite which tells me Tuesday games are easy to predict unlike what follows through for Wednesday and Thursday, as can be seen from the other weeks results.

Disappointed with that PSG result because I thought they would catch Arsenal napping, but instead it's PSG that was caught napping to allow them 2 first half goals  :'(

RB Salzburg also produced a disappointing performance to be beaten 4 nil at home which was clearly not a champions league performance!

Barcelona, Manchester City, Dortmund all breezed through easily and I expect this to continue and find themselves in the group of 16

the bookmarkers' odds spoke clearly for the PSG match
I don't understand how a team with so much talent and so much money spent can't take off and play properly
it was clear that the opponent was very strong, but there was no chance of a reply
PSG conceded the match without even reacting .. zero reactions
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on October 02, 2024, 04:41:57 PM
This is not a match for Leverkusen, but they managed to secure 3 points from one of the big teams from Serie A, Ac Milan. They managed to win with a narrow score of 1 goal.

Leverkusen seems to be able to talk a lot in the Champions League, this is their second win and get perfect points from the 2 matches they have played. This result is a very valuable result for them, because they have the opportunity to go far in the Champions League this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on October 02, 2024, 05:56:42 PM
To me the 2 biggest games tonight are Lille Vs Real Madrid and Aston Villa Vs Bayern Munich.
In both cases, home teams are underdogs and we have a very similar odds in both matches. You could get around x1.60 for an away team to win.
I'm not sure about Lille Vs Real, as I don't follow the French league, but as for the second game, I don't think it will be an easy game for Bayern, I think the odds are misplaced and AV should not be that much of an underdog. I wouldn't go as far as to say AV should be the favourite, but I expect it to be a quite even game, and therefore I think a double-chance bet for AV to win or draw is a good value bet and could yield you around x2.20.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on October 02, 2024, 06:05:59 PM
I think last night's games seem to have been easy to predict, 90% of the games went in favour of the bookies favourite which tells me Tuesday games are easy to predict unlike what follows through for Wednesday and Thursday, as can be seen from the other weeks results.

Disappointed with that PSG result because I thought they would catch Arsenal napping, but instead it's PSG that was caught napping to allow them 2 first half goals  :'(

RB Salzburg also produced a disappointing performance to be beaten 4 nil at home which was clearly not a champions league performance!

Barcelona, Manchester City, Dortmund all breezed through easily and I expect this to continue and find themselves in the group of 16
yesterdays match all were very impressive a lot of goals and assist many chances and passes. Almost all the match played yesterday scored very amazing goals and they all score more than usual , the performance were very unbelievable from the teams. Teams should keep going like this I guess even the least player will be encouraged and very committed to the teams
Of course, there was no surprises from yesterday games because all the strong teams won their match because they were playing with weak clubs. The only club that lost their match is Milan. Although, Leverkusen performance this season is much better than Milan which was why Leverkusen was able to gain full three points in the match. Milan performance is not improving at all, and they might not be able to qualify from the group stage if they continue in such poor performance.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 02, 2024, 08:04:49 PM
Arsenal's victory over PSG was a well-deserved victory. Because they played very effectively and didn't waste many of the opportunities they got. But if someone says PSG wasn't lucky enough in that match then I will also understand that. Because PSG's several shot attempts were always unlucky because several times they only hit the crossbar. But in terms of attack quality, I think Arsenal is much better. They were so calm when they penetrated the PSG defense. And besides that, PSG's defense doesn't seem to be as good as Arsenal's. So Arsenal's victory was indeed deserved in this match. And I think Arsenal will continue to go further this time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Foden on October 02, 2024, 09:12:44 PM
Bayern vs Aston villa is on
What do you people think about the match who will win the match seems both team have great players and record
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 02, 2024, 09:33:54 PM
Liverpool rarely disappoints us. And currently Liverpool have also managed to take a 1 goal lead in the match against Bologna. And I don't think this will be the only goal in this match. Because I believe Liverpool will win this match with more goals.

The match that made me quite disappointed was the Benfica vs Atletico Madrid match because at this time I didn't expect Atletico Madrid to be caught off guard by 1 goal behind. And Benfica even played better with several of their attack attempts that managed to penetrate Atletico Madrid's defense. I hope Atletico Madrid can turn things around quickly.

The Aston Villa vs Bayern match really attracted a lot of people's attention. but I'm sure Bayern will win the match. Because in terms of squad quality and depth, I think Bayern is indeed superior to Aston Villa.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Foden on October 02, 2024, 10:03:08 PM
Liverpool rarely disappoints us. And currently Liverpool have also managed to take a 1 goal lead in the match against Bologna. And I don't think this will be the only goal in this match. Because I believe Liverpool will win this match with more goals.

The match that made me quite disappointed was the Benfica vs Atletico Madrid match because at this time I didn't expect Atletico Madrid to be caught off guard by 1 goal behind. And Benfica even played better with several of their attack attempts that managed to penetrate Atletico Madrid's defense. I hope Atletico Madrid can turn things around quickly.

The Aston Villa vs Bayern match really attracted a lot of people's attention. but I'm sure Bayern will win the match. Because in terms of squad quality and depth, I think Bayern is indeed superior to Aston Villa.
Yeah definitely Liverpool is taking the lead we expected much more than the one goal . They are really playing an impressive game , more possession and much passes , definitely they will close the match up with winning . A great goal from allister.


Bayern at the other hand are trying to play a good game and making chances , the first goal was cancel it was offside and it was very unfortunate. We are expecting more from Bayern soon
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on October 02, 2024, 10:42:46 PM
Bayern at the other hand are trying to play a good game and making chances , the first goal was cancel it was offside and it was very unfortunate. We are expecting more from Bayern soon
Super Sub Duran scores for Aston Villa again this season, and a very important goal for Aston Villa, Bayern are trailing by a goal. Imagine Betting on Aston Villa to win this game and they actually do end this game in a victory.

Aston Villa have the lead! Astonishing!!!
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Woodie on October 02, 2024, 11:20:01 PM
Aston Villa where did that come from  :o

I know Wednesday fixtures usually come with surprise results but I didn't think Villa would get maximum points against a giant like Bayern, and btw big teams lose by narrow margins and that's what we witnessed this evening, well played Villa.

Another disappointing team has to be Atletico Madrid, boy I gat no words for these lads ...conceding 4 goals without a reply against a team like Benfica wtf..worst result should have been say 2-1, 1-0, 2-0 not 4nil in a champions leagues fixture :'( !!!
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on October 02, 2024, 11:43:39 PM
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I'm not sure about Lille Vs Real, as I don't follow the French league, but as for the second game, I don't think it will be an easy game for Bayern, I think the odds are misplaced and AV should not be that much of an underdog. I wouldn't go as far as to say AV should be the favourite, but I expect it to be a quite even game, and therefore I think a double-chance bet for AV to win or draw is a good value bet and could yield you around x2.20.

The main reason I thought Bayern will have a hard time playing Villa, is that Villa is a top 5 premier league team, and I don't think many people understand how much stronger the premier league is than other European leagues.

But, to be perfectly honest, despite AV winning 1-0 and my prediction turning out to be correct, I think I was wrong to think it would be an even game. I haven't watched it yet, but looking only at the stats, Bayern clearly was a dominating team, with possession of 70% and shots/shots on target of 17/7 compared to Villa's 5/2. So looks like AV's win was mostly due to luck.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on October 02, 2024, 11:43:49 PM
I know Wednesday fixtures usually come with surprise results but I didn't think Villa would get maximum points against a giant like Bayern, and btw big teams lose by narrow margins and that's what we witnessed this evening, well played Villa.
Today's match is very different from yesterday's match. Even some are very different from the results of the top clubs that competed yesterday, although not all, but there are some top clubs whose results are really surprising.

LOSC vs Real Madrid -> Real Madrid LOST 1 - 0
Benfica vs Atletico Madrid -> Benfica humiliated Atletico Madrid 4 - 0
Aston Villa vs Bayern Munich -> Aston Villa defeated Bayern Munich 1 - 0

Well, Real Madrid really misses Kross, who controls the ball in the club during the match, no matter how strong the front line is, but the movement of the ball is quite different from when Kross was still there.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on October 03, 2024, 05:54:01 AM
The main reason I thought Bayern will have a hard time playing Villa, is that Villa is a top 5 premier league team, and I don't think many people understand how much stronger the premier league is than other European leagues.

But, to be perfectly honest, despite AV winning 1-0 and my prediction turning out to be correct, I think I was wrong to think it would be an even game. I haven't watched it yet, but looking only at the stats, Bayern clearly was a dominating team, with possession of 70% and shots/shots on target of 17/7 compared to Villa's 5/2. So looks like AV's win was mostly due to luck.
Aston Villa success continues two consecutive winning in UEFA Champion League and Bayern Munich have got first loss in this season from the top five Premier League top standings position. Unbelievable after looking the match statistic, Bayern Munich have more dominance with 70% ball possession and 17 shots of 7 on target but difficult for scoring goal.
Aston Villa although not play dominance with 2 shots on target but success scoring one goal and secure three home points get opportunity reach the top standings position in Champion League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on October 03, 2024, 09:35:17 AM

Another disappointing team has to be Atletico Madrid, boy I gat no words for these lads ...conceding 4 goals without a reply against a team like Benfica wtf..worst result should have been say 2-1, 1-0, 2-0 not 4nil in a champions leagues fixture :'( !!!

Worst game of the Simeone era and I fear there will be more to come.
The players have not done things well, they have been bad even the team playing worse than last year.
There is no excuse for today's loss, the mentality team is very weak.
No phrase motivates me to believe in what the team is doing.
Another bad thing is that we think that everything will go well for this team it doesn't, they win or draw by pure luck and the game was played just as badly as today.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain Corporate on October 03, 2024, 07:34:07 PM
Having this type of shocking result isn't really a new thing in champions league. Due to new format we are seeing more and more. Back in the day we saw big teams play with bad teams a few games and they just won, here we see a lot of games between bad teams and big teams, and a few of them could be shocking like this based on the odds. I mean look at the odds, bad teams have like 5-6-7 odds, rarely more than 8, and that means since there are 8 games, it entails one game could be shocking result. The real shocking part it was three games that were shocking, so obviously everyone lost money.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on October 03, 2024, 08:49:02 PM
I know Wednesday fixtures usually come with surprise results but I didn't think Villa would get maximum points against a giant like Bayern, and btw big teams lose by narrow margins and that's what we witnessed this evening, well played Villa.
Today's match is very different from yesterday's match. Even some are very different from the results of the top clubs that competed yesterday, although not all, but there are some top clubs whose results are really surprising.

LOSC vs Real Madrid -> Real Madrid LOST 1 - 0
Benfica vs Atletico Madrid -> Benfica humiliated Atletico Madrid 4 - 0
Aston Villa vs Bayern Munich -> Aston Villa defeated Bayern Munich 1 - 0

Well, Real Madrid really misses Kross, who controls the ball in the club during the match, no matter how strong the front line is, but the movement of the ball is quite different from when Kross was still there.
This week's UCL was a shocker, I think a lot of people were frustrated because they bet on big teams Real Madrid and Bayern Munich to lose surprisingly while Atletico Madrid lost so badly to Benfica.

Aston Villa's victory at Villa Park stadium was so anticipated especially this win over an elite team like Bayern Munich, I really saw them celebrating after this victory.

Because after 42 years of absence in the UCL and now they are back again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on October 03, 2024, 09:39:32 PM
I know Wednesday fixtures usually come with surprise results but I didn't think Villa would get maximum points against a giant like Bayern, and btw big teams lose by narrow margins and that's what we witnessed this evening, well played Villa.
Today's match is very different from yesterday's match. Even some are very different from the results of the top clubs that competed yesterday, although not all, but there are some top clubs whose results are really surprising.

LOSC vs Real Madrid -> Real Madrid LOST 1 - 0
Benfica vs Atletico Madrid -> Benfica humiliated Atletico Madrid 4 - 0
Aston Villa vs Bayern Munich -> Aston Villa defeated Bayern Munich 1 - 0

Well, Real Madrid really misses Kross, who controls the ball in the club during the match, no matter how strong the front line is, but the movement of the ball is quite different from when Kross was still there.

This Champions League day is scary
I never expected Real Madrid to lose, so it confirms the fact that I don't see him in good health
I never expected this humiliation for Atletico Madrid
And I never expected Aston Villa to beat Bayern
incredible, i not bet in champions league usually, hard game to predict
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 03, 2024, 10:17:51 PM
The Champions League is never boring because of this. That is, sometimes the favorite team loses and a team that is considered weak can actually win. Even though it's quite annoying. Because we have bet with great confidence. But the results were not as expected. On the other hand, a club like Dortmund can actually play an extraordinary game which makes them win with a big score. The big teams that were favorites but suffered defeat yesterday, such as Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid and Bayern Munich, were not all lucky. especially Real Madrid and Bayern who have fought well but are not good at finishing. Meanwhile, Atletico Madrid experienced defeat because they did not play well enough and only continued to receive attacks from their opponents in greater numbers.

In the third UCL match, which is 3 weeks from now, there are 2 matches that will be very interesting for us to look forward to. Namely the Real Madrid match against Dortmund and also the Barcelona vs Bayern match which everyone will definitely be looking forward to. Let's see whether when facing fellow strong teams, Real Madrid and Bayern will win or not.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on October 03, 2024, 11:16:04 PM
Coaches must have many options, because they have to do a lot of rotation to maintain the fitness of their players, not to mention when they are hit by a storm of injuries, it will certainly be very difficult for them.
For the teams with proper number of players, it won't be a big problem to rotate them. But there are some teams with quite small number of players, it won't be easy to rotate them. Moreover if the level of main players and second tier players are too different. It will be a big challenge, too. Because of this, I think each team in UCL will try to get quality players more than the the previous seasons.

Actually, some time ago there was also a protest about the tight schedule, even before the new Champions League format was implemented. But in fact all of that did not get any response.
There is always a protest about the schedule but I don't see any change. UEFA may think they have done their best, they can't change the schedules. But now, UEFA also change the format. Not sure why the format must be changed this season.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on October 03, 2024, 11:19:18 PM
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Aston Villa's victory at Villa Park stadium was so anticipated especially this win over an elite team like Bayern Munich, I really saw them celebrating after this victory.

Because after 42 years of absence in the UCL and now they are back again.
Well, who wouldn't? ;D It's a dream start for Villa and it's only right that they celebrate while they are on the winning side. If they were playing with the old tournament format, they are most likely to advance to the next stage after two wins. Since UEFA added more games in the new format, we still won't know how this will turn out.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on October 03, 2024, 11:50:34 PM
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Aston Villa's victory at Villa Park stadium was so anticipated especially this win over an elite team like Bayern Munich, I really saw them celebrating after this victory.

Because after 42 years of absence in the UCL and now they are back again.
Well, who wouldn't? ;D It's a dream start for Villa and it's only right that they celebrate while they are on the winning side. If they were playing with the old tournament format, they are most likely to advance to the next stage after two wins. Since UEFA added more games in the new format, we still won't know how this will turn out.

This new format is going to deny some top teams from going into the round of 16. Two games have been played so far, and some top teams that we are familiar with are not even present in top 10. Well, I won't be surprise if Aston villa moves on to the next round. They're literally playing with confidence. At the beginning, they where looking like the underdogs, but after two games, it seems like they've been playing the UCl for years. Brilliant display against Munich yesterday. And if a club knows how to take every chances, then they won't find it difficult to win their games.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on October 04, 2024, 12:09:45 AM
Having this type of shocking result isn't really a new thing in champions league. Due to new format we are seeing more and more. Back in the day we saw big teams play with bad teams a few games and they just won, here we see a lot of games between bad teams and big teams, and a few of them could be shocking like this based on the odds. I mean look at the odds, bad teams have like 5-6-7 odds, rarely more than 8, and that means since there are 8 games, it entails one game could be shocking result. The real shocking part it was three games that were shocking, so obviously everyone lost money.
In this week's Champions League results, none of us saw the match losses coming in that way. For the three big teams we all expected to win their match would later lose to small teams, making everyone who bet for the big team to win end up losing their bets.

It's very unbelievable that Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, and Bayern Munich would lose to their opponents. Next in their Champions League match, who knows whether they will win if someone should place a bet win on their head. It's hard to say because their wins in the Champions League are no longer guaranteed
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on October 04, 2024, 06:35:22 AM
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Aston Villa's victory at Villa Park stadium was so anticipated especially this win over an elite team like Bayern Munich, I really saw them celebrating after this victory.

Because after 42 years of absence in the UCL and now they are back again.
Well, who wouldn't? ;D It's a dream start for Villa and it's only right that they celebrate while they are on the winning side. If they were playing with the old tournament format, they are most likely to advance to the next stage after two wins. Since UEFA added more games in the new format, we still won't know how this will turn out.

Yep, It hasn't happened like this for years. People think it was luck but for me no, Unai Emery is a good coach and this is not Unai's first win over Bayern, when coaching PSG and Villareal he also did it.
To win against a mastodont as Bayern is, is something worth celebrating but There are still a lot of games to come and Villa needs all of them, It's still early in the season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on October 04, 2024, 10:52:12 AM
Lille's match against Real Madrid left me amazed and speechless
I never thought that Real Madrid would lose against a team, let's be clear and honest, inferior in everything
inferior in terms of staff
inferior in history
inferior in experience

yet Lille won, thanks to them and also a demerit of Real Madrid, it seems to me to be in crisis
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on October 04, 2024, 03:43:26 PM
Actually, some time ago there was also a protest about the tight schedule, even before the new Champions League format was implemented. But in fact all of that did not get any response.
There is always a protest about the schedule but I don't see any change. UEFA may think they have done their best, they can't change the schedules. But now, UEFA also change the format. Not sure why the format must be changed this season.
Yes, we will always see, because there will always be pros and cons, we cannot stop some people who are pro and some people who are against, because that is their right. And actually we can't do much, because there are already provisions and it is agreed by those involved, the club for example.

I prefer to just enjoy it, because if there is something that is not right, there will definitely be changes again, or try to change the schedule so that the break can be longer, yes, but that also has to adjust to the FIFA agenda.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on October 05, 2024, 09:23:03 AM
Yes, we will always see, because there will always be pros and cons, we cannot stop some people who are pro and some people who are against, because that is their right. And actually we can't do much, because there are already provisions and it is agreed by those involved, the club for example.

I prefer to just enjoy it, because if there is something that is not right, there will definitely be changes again, or try to change the schedule so that the break can be longer, yes, but that also has to adjust to the FIFA agenda.

Pros and cons are normal, Just enjoy it :)
But I know football never disappoints, The Champions League is pure magic and drama, Always exciting every single Time!
And so many memorable moments this week, a Great comeback from Juventus, Lille's amazing win (What a memory for the Lille supporters), and Durán's majestic lob.
This is quite amazing, Seriously this is quite amazing and It's a good thing.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on October 05, 2024, 03:52:08 PM
Yes, we will always see, because there will always be pros and cons, we cannot stop some people who are pro and some people who are against, because that is their right. And actually we can't do much, because there are already provisions and it is agreed by those involved, the club for example.

I prefer to just enjoy it, because if there is something that is not right, there will definitely be changes again, or try to change the schedule so that the break can be longer, yes, but that also has to adjust to the FIFA agenda.

Pros and cons are normal, Just enjoy it :)
But I know football never disappoints, The Champions League is pure magic and drama, Always exciting every single Time!
And so many memorable moments this week, a Great comeback from Juventus, Lille's amazing win (What a memory for the Lille supporters), and Durán's majestic lob.
This is quite amazing, Seriously this is quite amazing and It's a good thing.
The Champions League is a competition that we always look forward to every season, this is the biggest competition in Europe but it has spread throughout the world, I mean all eyes are watching this competition.

There are always surprises, there is always drama and so on. We can enjoy this and indeed this is a form of entertainment for us football lovers. Every season we will wait and wonder what will happen at the end of the season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 05, 2024, 04:32:30 PM
Lille's match against Real Madrid left me amazed and speechless
I never thought that Real Madrid would lose against a team, let's be clear and honest, inferior in everything
inferior in terms of staff
inferior in history
inferior in experience

yet Lille won, thanks to them and also a demerit of Real Madrid, it seems to me to be in crisis
Lille gives us information that Real Madrid is not in good condition. The depth of these two squads is actually quite different. And Lille's consistency in Ligue 1 is also not that good. This is different from Real Madrid, which is quite consistent and they also have squad depth whose quality is never in doubt. But Real Madrid's defeat really makes us think that in the UCL, even teams that are not favorites can bring big surprises. Last season Dortmund also did it, surprising everyone by making it to the final. And maybe there will be a team that we don't expect that will make it to the UCL final this time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Asiska02 on October 05, 2024, 07:36:36 PM
This Champions League day is scary
I never expected Real Madrid to lose, so it confirms the fact that I don't see him in good health
I never expected this humiliation for Atletico Madrid
And I never expected Aston Villa to beat Bayern
incredible, i not bet in champions league usually, hard game to predict

Champions leagues are the most unpredictable games to predict and are also the best games to watch because they’re always enticing. When the format of the competition was changed, it was clear that many things will happen this time around that many won’t expect to happen, this is just the beginning of it because I expect more of this surprises going forward. The competition is now about resilience and the best team to keep up with that winning mentality and consistency. If you don’t have that qualities, you’ll be eliminated from the first round. Both small and big teams are in this together and if any one of them falls, they will definitely not see the next round in the competition. Every team will try to be at their best and that’s what makes the competition more interesting.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on October 05, 2024, 08:37:03 PM
This Champions League day is scary
I never expected Real Madrid to lose, so it confirms the fact that I don't see him in good health
I never expected this humiliation for Atletico Madrid
And I never expected Aston Villa to beat Bayern
incredible, i not bet in champions league usually, hard game to predict

Champions leagues are the most unpredictable games to predict and are also the best games to watch because they’re always enticing. When the format of the competition was changed, it was clear that many things will happen this time around that many won’t expect to happen, this is just the beginning of it because I expect more of this surprises going forward. The competition is now about resilience and the best team to keep up with that winning mentality and consistency. If you don’t have that qualities, you’ll be eliminated from the first round. Both small and big teams are in this together and if any one of them falls, they will definitely not see the next round in the competition. Every team will try to be at their best and that’s what makes the competition more interesting.
In the group stage there is no best team because all of them are best. The weak is winning the strong which would have not been possible if it was the old format. The new format is still giving many clubs tough time to understand how they can strategize properly to win their next match because they will be playing with different club entirely, and you must be able to understand the game tactics of your opponent and their strenght which is not that easy.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on October 05, 2024, 09:46:53 PM
Although the Champions League is still a few weeks away the one to watch is Barcelona vs Bayern Munich.

In the last 6 meetings Bayern Munich has won in a row let alone the embarrassment in the 2019/20 quarterfinals with a score of 2-8 win at Camp Now.

The overall total is 2-8 Bayern Munich has more wins.
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/history/h2h/50080/50037/

This time Bayern Munich team as a guest again, and still the same Bayern Munich is mighty even though yesterday lost to Aston Villa but I don't think they will lose again in the following matches.

Do you think Barcelona will lose again? For me Bayern Munich is likely to still win.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on October 05, 2024, 10:20:57 PM
In the third UCL match, which is 3 weeks from now, there are 2 matches that will be very interesting for us to look forward to. Namely the Real Madrid match against Dortmund and also the Barcelona vs Bayern match which everyone will definitely be looking forward to. Let's see whether when facing fellow strong teams, Real Madrid and Bayern will win or not.
You're right. These 2 matches will be very interesting because this will provide 3 important points for each teams, specifically for Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Bayern Munich. Since they already got 1 lose, they shouldn't get another lose if they want to be safe to qualify to the next round. Meanwhile for Dortmund, they are leading the table, it won't bring big impact if they fail in the next match. However, since Real Madrid and Barcelona will play at home, I think these teams will have higher chances to win and get crucial 3 points.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on October 05, 2024, 11:05:46 PM
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Do you think Barcelona will lose again? For me Bayern Munich is likely to still win.
Honestly, it's a toss up. It's a match where you'll have to see updates on injuries or how they perform in their last game to have a better idea of the possible outcome. I haven't seen the odds yet but I'm confident it will be close. I'll take a look after the weekend.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Cantsay on October 05, 2024, 11:11:21 PM

Do you think Barcelona will lose again? For me Bayern Munich is likely to still win.

For some reason I don’t think Barcelona is going to lose against Bayern Munich this time around - let’s just hope nothing happens to the players. I might later change my opinion as times goes on and as I carry out more analysis and take core look at both teams but for now as it is I think Barcelona will be victorious in their match against Bayern.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on October 06, 2024, 06:20:54 PM
Honestly, it's a toss up. It's a match where you'll have to see updates on injuries or how they perform in their last game to have a better idea of the possible outcome. I haven't seen the odds yet but I'm confident it will be close. I'll take a look after the weekend.
Bayern Munich has a pretty good record when facing Barcelona, ​​so that is a good capital even though the match record is not a guarantee that they will actually be able to win the match.

Bayern Munich with a new coach, as well as Barcelona, ​​but both new coaches can show something good at the beginning of their coaching. I also think this will be a difficult match to predict and maybe luck will be the deciding factor.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on October 06, 2024, 10:25:29 PM
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Do you think Barcelona will lose again? For me Bayern Munich is likely to still win.
Honestly, it's a toss up. It's a match where you'll have to see updates on injuries or how they perform in their last game to have a better idea of the possible outcome. I haven't seen the odds yet but I'm confident it will be close. I'll take a look after the weekend.
We know what the final result in the Champions League looked like last week.
Barcelona win over Young boys
Bayern Munich lost to Aston Villa unexpectedly.
This could also be a preview for the coming week.

So far, we have not seen the odds offered by the bookies which one is more favored although it is not a guarantee of anything.
I only judge from my own view that Bayern Munich will be better than Barcelona.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 08, 2024, 03:04:00 PM
Bayern Munich has a pretty good record when facing Barcelona, ​​so that is a good capital even though the match record is not a guarantee that they will actually be able to win the match.

Bayern Munich with a new coach, as well as Barcelona, ​​but both new coaches can show something good at the beginning of their coaching. I also think this will be a difficult match to predict and maybe luck will be the deciding factor.
We really can't miss this match. Because it looks like Barcelona's battle against Bayern will be quite tense and yes, it will be very exciting to watch. but I think it is very risky if we bet on one of them. And we better enjoy the match. Both teams will both display aggressive play which will usually result in a match filled with goals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on October 08, 2024, 04:27:23 PM
Bayern Munich has a pretty good record when facing Barcelona, ​​so that is a good capital even though the match record is not a guarantee that they will actually be able to win the match.

Bayern Munich with a new coach, as well as Barcelona, ​​but both new coaches can show something good at the beginning of their coaching. I also think this will be a difficult match to predict and maybe luck will be the deciding factor.
We really can't miss this match. Because it looks like Barcelona's battle against Bayern will be quite tense and yes, it will be very exciting to watch. but I think it is very risky if we bet on one of them. And we better enjoy the match. Both teams will both display aggressive play which will usually result in a match filled with goals.


Coming soon there are some matches not to be missed, this is one to watch because I also think that in the end it will be a very fun match.
Even El Classico, which will be there "soon" will be a match to absolutely watch, any fan of football and good football will certainly not miss it.
I look at it as I look at this one but I dont bet
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on October 09, 2024, 04:24:26 PM
Bayern Munich has a pretty good record when facing Barcelona, ​​so that is a good capital even though the match record is not a guarantee that they will actually be able to win the match.

Bayern Munich with a new coach, as well as Barcelona, ​​but both new coaches can show something good at the beginning of their coaching. I also think this will be a difficult match to predict and maybe luck will be the deciding factor.
We really can't miss this match. Because it looks like Barcelona's battle against Bayern will be quite tense and yes, it will be very exciting to watch. but I think it is very risky if we bet on one of them. And we better enjoy the match. Both teams will both display aggressive play which will usually result in a match filled with goals.
In a match like this, the risk will be much greater, because at this time their chances of winning are equally large and maybe they will finish the match without a winner or in other words they will share points.

But on the other hand, betting on a match will make us feel the match more, I mean the sensation will be very different because the match is predicted to be tight and that will be a joy in itself.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on October 09, 2024, 06:19:39 PM
without taking anything away from Bayern, I like Barcelona more
not for any particular reason, I like the style they have more: phrasing and dribbling done very well and then quick cutting actions
I find the rocky style very boring
that's all, I like watching football shows 
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 09, 2024, 10:40:52 PM
without taking anything away from Bayern, I like Barcelona more
not for any particular reason, I like the style they have more: phrasing and dribbling done very well and then quick cutting actions
I find the rocky style very boring
that's all, I like watching football shows
Actually, I also prefer the Barcelona squad's playing style this season. Because they display an aggressive attack style that is truly more targeted with certainty. And I like the way they will immediately cause problems for the opponent's defense with their fast attacking style.

I think Bayern even have to prepare their back line better to withstand Barcelona's quite frightening attack. Even Lewandowski seems to have returned to his youth this season. It gets sharper there.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on October 09, 2024, 11:34:50 PM
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Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on October 09, 2024, 11:35:40 PM
without taking anything away from Bayern, I like Barcelona more
not for any particular reason, I like the style they have more: phrasing and dribbling done very well and then quick cutting actions
I find the rocky style very boring
that's all, I like watching football shows
Actually, I also prefer the Barcelona squad's playing style this season. Because they display an aggressive attack style that is truly more targeted with certainty. And I like the way they will immediately cause problems for the opponent's defense with their fast attacking style.

I think Bayern even have to prepare their back line better to withstand Barcelona's quite frightening attack. Even Lewandowski seems to have returned to his youth this season. It gets sharper there.

And the things is, we haven't seen a complete Barce squad since flick came in. Flick has literally been working with what he met, as so many of the players have been injured for long. I can't just imagine the magic flick will perform when all his players returns from injury. Dani olmo is a crazy talent I've always liked to watch alongside Yamal. There combination is out of this planet. But unfortunately for Barce, Dani is an Injury prone player, but that doesn't change the fact that he is so talented. 3goals in 3matches for a midfielder is enough to brag with.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 09, 2024, 11:58:59 PM
Actually, I also prefer the Barcelona squad's playing style this season. Because they display an aggressive attack style that is truly more targeted with certainty. And I like the way they will immediately cause problems for the opponent's defense with their fast attacking style.

I think Bayern even have to prepare their back line better to withstand Barcelona's quite frightening attack. Even Lewandowski seems to have returned to his youth this season. It gets sharper there.

And the things is, we haven't seen a complete Barce squad since flick came in. Flick has literally been working with what he met, as so many of the players have been injured for long. I can't just imagine the magic flick will perform when all his players returns from injury. Dani olmo is a crazy talent I've always liked to watch alongside Yamal. There combination is out of this planet. But unfortunately for Barce, Dani is an Injury prone player, but that doesn't change the fact that he is so talented. 3goals in 3matches for a midfielder is enough to brag with.
The collaboration between Yamal and Dani Olmo is clearly the most interesting combination since they proved themselves when they played together for their national team, namely Spain. And now they are united in Barcelona. It's clear they will still be able to work together well and everyone is very curious about all of that. I am also really looking forward to the moment when Barcelona plays with their main squad to the maximum. Well, Hansi Flick might surprise us a lot more.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 10, 2024, 12:12:09 AM
I only judge from my own view that Bayern Munich will be better than Barcelona.

It's a fact, things are like that, I see it that way too, if a Braclona faces a Man City or a really good team, let's say a Liverpool, things will not be so favorable, or I say nothing about PSG, but Barcelona did not really have such a difficult time, but it seemed to me that last week was a very strange UCL, the teams that never lose did so this time, so this adds a good spice to everything and I like it for the simple fact that now everything will be seen from another point of view , at least the bets will not be as open as they were before, there will be a little more care when betting.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on October 10, 2024, 08:33:23 AM
Actually, I also prefer the Barcelona squad's playing style this season. Because they display an aggressive attack style that is truly more targeted with certainty. And I like the way they will immediately cause problems for the opponent's defense with their fast attacking style.

I think Bayern even have to prepare their back line better to withstand Barcelona's quite frightening attack. Even Lewandowski seems to have returned to his youth this season. It gets sharper there.

I have always liked the Spanish and Brazilian teams for their style of play, which i think is more fun
I watch football to have fun, so seeing Ronaldinho tricks makes me happy, even if it means my team loses
so fixed modules and strategies bore me a lot
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on October 10, 2024, 05:36:33 PM
I have always liked the Spanish and Brazilian teams for their style of play, which i think is more fun
I watch football to have fun, so seeing Ronaldinho tricks makes me happy, even if it means my team loses
so fixed modules and strategies bore me a lot
In football the ultimate goal is to win, but winning will not be achieved if a team plays badly, they may win by being lucky if they play badly. Barcelona for example, they are famous for having a tiki taka style of play, it has stuck with them.

Many strategies, such as their rivals Real Madrid. Real Madrid has a different style of play from them, because Real Madrid relies more on effectiveness in building attacks.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Asiska02 on October 10, 2024, 07:10:38 PM
I only judge from my own view that Bayern Munich will be better than Barcelona.

It's a fact, things are like that, I see it that way too, if a Braclona faces a Man City or a really good team, let's say a Liverpool, things will not be so favorable, or I say nothing about PSG, but Barcelona did not really have such a difficult time, but it seemed to me that last week was a very strange UCL, the teams that never lose did so this time, so this adds a good spice to everything and I like it for the simple fact that now everything will be seen from another point of view , at least the bets will not be as open as they were before, there will be a little more care when betting.

This new format of champions league have really changed a lot of things in the game. Even when a team does not have that zeal to compete well in a match, with the happenings to the other elite teams and victory gotten from them from smaller teams, it gives confidence to other smaller teams coming to play against them next. Football is all about what you can offer at the field that time, and when you’re able to achieve that, the narratives changes and how people view and see you will also change. I am really enjoying this champions league and I’m also expecting to see some changes in the coming games like so many unexpected scenarios prevailing from the competition soon again and again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 11, 2024, 03:12:38 PM
I feel that this time PSG will have quite a hard time getting straight through to the next stage. But that doesn't mean this team can't do it. It's just that they have to work harder to get it. And perhaps it is more likely that PSG will only qualify through the playoffs first. Let's see what matches PSG will face at this stage. The opponents they face will really make PSG lose points. For example, in the 4th match they will face Atletico Madrid, then in the 5th match they will face Bayern Munich and then in the 7th match they will have to face the most difficult opponent, namely Man City. So it will be quite difficult for PSG to get full points in these matches. But because this is the Champions League, it could turn out that my guess is wrong. And even PSG was able to qualify smoothly.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on October 11, 2024, 11:34:45 PM
The collaboration between Yamal and Dani Olmo is clearly the most interesting combination since they proved themselves when they played together for their national team, namely Spain. And now they are united in Barcelona. It's clear they will still be able to work together well and everyone is very curious about all of that. I am also really looking forward to the moment when Barcelona plays with their main squad to the maximum. Well, Hansi Flick might surprise us a lot more.
Yamal, Olmo, Raphinha, and Lewandowski are the best attackers of Barcelona this season. The combination of these players to have great productivity in scoring goals. Flick really knows to optimize these players' ability. So Barcelona is strong again in this season, they are leading the La Liga table since the early season. I am very sure that Flick can surprise us more, Barcelona can have a chance to win few trophies this season.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 12, 2024, 01:55:04 AM
The collaboration between Yamal and Dani Olmo is clearly the most interesting combination since they proved themselves when they played together for their national team, namely Spain. And now they are united in Barcelona. It's clear they will still be able to work together well and everyone is very curious about all of that. I am also really looking forward to the moment when Barcelona plays with their main squad to the maximum. Well, Hansi Flick might surprise us a lot more.
Yamal, Olmo, Raphinha, and Lewandowski are the best attackers of Barcelona this season. The combination of these players to have great productivity in scoring goals. Flick really knows to optimize these players' ability. So Barcelona is strong again in this season, they are leading the La Liga table since the early season. I am very sure that Flick can surprise us more, Barcelona can have a chance to win few trophies this season.
It's true, I also really believe in all of that. And after all, what Hansi Flick did for Barcelona exceeded everyone's expectations. In fact, some people, even me personally, might have thought that firing Xavi Hernandez was a bad decision. And then I underestimated Hansi Flick a little. because he once talked about changing Barcelona's playing style. But as it seems, I think I was wrong and yeah Hansi Flick really made a big change there and the results are quite satisfying.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on October 12, 2024, 01:43:20 PM
The collaboration between Yamal and Dani Olmo is clearly the most interesting combination since they proved themselves when they played together for their national team, namely Spain. And now they are united in Barcelona. It's clear they will still be able to work together well and everyone is very curious about all of that. I am also really looking forward to the moment when Barcelona plays with their main squad to the maximum. Well, Hansi Flick might surprise us a lot more.
Yamal, Olmo, Raphinha, and Lewandowski are the best attackers of Barcelona this season. The combination of these players to have great productivity in scoring goals. Flick really knows to optimize these players' ability. So Barcelona is strong again in this season, they are leading the La Liga table since the early season. I am very sure that Flick can surprise us more, Barcelona can have a chance to win few trophies this season.
Even though Barcelona is working with a new coach, they can show something good when they are at the beginning of this season, this is something that brings great hope, yes even though they are in a condition that is actually not good. Even when compared to their rivals, they are still better now. While Real Madrid got something unexpected. This is a good start for them, hopefully they can be consistent.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on October 12, 2024, 03:54:54 PM
The collaboration between Yamal and Dani Olmo is clearly the most interesting combination since they proved themselves when they played together for their national team, namely Spain. And now they are united in Barcelona. It's clear they will still be able to work together well and everyone is very curious about all of that. I am also really looking forward to the moment when Barcelona plays with their main squad to the maximum. Well, Hansi Flick might surprise us a lot more.
Yamal, Olmo, Raphinha, and Lewandowski are the best attackers of Barcelona this season. The combination of these players to have great productivity in scoring goals. Flick really knows to optimize these players' ability. So Barcelona is strong again in this season, they are leading the La Liga table since the early season. I am very sure that Flick can surprise us more, Barcelona can have a chance to win few trophies this season.

Agree. They're all set to make their mark on the field, there's so much to appreciate.
It's great for fans to have so many talented players on one team, which keeps them happy.
Win the few trophies this season might sound a bit excessive but I don't think it's an empty hope, They are Barca, and they are obliged to win trophies.
And Ronald Araujo's recovery from injury is great news for the defense and will give Barca a better chance of winning the title.
But the season is still ongoing, keep focused and hard working...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on October 12, 2024, 05:31:50 PM
Even though Barcelona is working with a new coach, they can show something good when they are at the beginning of this season, this is something that brings great hope, yes even though they are in a condition that is actually not good. Even when compared to their rivals, they are still better now. While Real Madrid got something unexpected. This is a good start for them, hopefully they can be consistent.
The third match in Champion League, Barcelona have most difficult opponent team will face Bayern Munich always lead head to head in last several matches. I can't remember well when the last time Barcelona got winning over Bayern Munich in Champion League because last several season Bayern seems easily get three points when facing Barcelona not matter as home or away match.
Bayern and Barcelona have three points of two matches in Champion League, I think both team will play more aggressive to get three points and Barcelona under Hansi Flick era seems drastically difference.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on October 12, 2024, 10:35:47 PM
The collaboration between Yamal and Dani Olmo is clearly the most interesting combination since they proved themselves when they played together for their national team, namely Spain. And now they are united in Barcelona. It's clear they will still be able to work together well and everyone is very curious about all of that. I am also really looking forward to the moment when Barcelona plays with their main squad to the maximum. Well, Hansi Flick might surprise us a lot more.
Yamal, Olmo, Raphinha, and Lewandowski are the best attackers of Barcelona this season. The combination of these players to have great productivity in scoring goals. Flick really knows to optimize these players' ability. So Barcelona is strong again in this season, they are leading the La Liga table since the early season. I am very sure that Flick can surprise us more, Barcelona can have a chance to win few trophies this season.
Barcelona have never been short of players and now they have a good squad depth, maybe Flick will organize the best possible strategy against Bayern Munich later.
Because it is not an easy opponent Bayern itself has many great players in it, so it can be said that it can be balanced with Barcelona.
Yeah it could be Barcelona have a chance to get the trophy this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: debra on October 12, 2024, 11:59:08 PM
The third match in Champion League, Barcelona have most difficult opponent team will face Bayern Munich always lead head to head in last several matches. I can't remember well when the last time Barcelona got winning over Bayern Munich in Champion League because last several season Bayern seems easily get three points when facing Barcelona not matter as home or away match.
Bayern and Barcelona have three points of two matches in Champion League, I think both team will play more aggressive to get three points and Barcelona under Hansi Flick era seems drastically difference.
Barcelona should have the chance to win against Bayern Munich. It is not as strong as Man City. Flick must understands the tactic or game play of Bayern players because he ever became the coach of Bayern Munich. We don't forget that Flick is also a German coach who knows well Bundesliga. Another reason, Lewandowski was a player of Bayern Munich. He should know the weakness of Bayern Munich defense line. The match will be held in Barcelona home. So in theory Barcelona will have a better opportunity to win the match and get 3 points.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on October 13, 2024, 02:43:47 PM
Even though Barcelona is working with a new coach, they can show something good when they are at the beginning of this season, this is something that brings great hope, yes even though they are in a condition that is actually not good. Even when compared to their rivals, they are still better now. While Real Madrid got something unexpected. This is a good start for them, hopefully they can be consistent.
The third match in Champion League, Barcelona have most difficult opponent team will face Bayern Munich always lead head to head in last several matches. I can't remember well when the last time Barcelona got winning over Bayern Munich in Champion League because last several season Bayern seems easily get three points when facing Barcelona not matter as home or away match.
Bayern and Barcelona have three points of two matches in Champion League, I think both team will play more aggressive to get three points and Barcelona under Hansi Flick era seems drastically difference.
I immediately gave their head2head record, and the last time Barcelona could win a match when facing Bayern Munich was in 2015, that means 9 years they can no longer beat Bayern Munich, even though they meet quite often in the Champions League.

This is an opportunity for Hansi Flick to be able to break Barcelona's negative record, but no one knows for sure whether he will succeed or not.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 13, 2024, 02:51:08 PM
I immediately gave their head2head record, and the last time Barcelona could win a match when facing Bayern Munich was in 2015, that means 9 years they can no longer beat Bayern Munich, even though they meet quite often in the Champions League.

This is an opportunity for Hansi Flick to be able to break Barcelona's negative record, but no one knows for sure whether he will succeed or not.
Bayern this season even looks very trustworthy. Their goal productivity has also increased rapidly. So it is very difficult to predict whether Bayern will lose to Barcelona or not. But it would indeed be a very satisfying result if Hansi Flick managed to break the streak of defeats that Barcelona has mostly experienced when meeting Bayern so far. But a draw could happen. because considering the performance of both teams is currently at its best.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on October 15, 2024, 06:59:13 PM
Bayern this season even looks very trustworthy. Their goal productivity has also increased rapidly. So it is very difficult to predict whether Bayern will lose to Barcelona or not. But it would indeed be a very satisfying result if Hansi Flick managed to break the streak of defeats that Barcelona has mostly experienced when meeting Bayern so far. But a draw could happen. because considering the performance of both teams is currently at its best.

Maybe but I still don't like them as a team
I don't know why I don't like it, maybe it's the style of play or the fact of being a square team
I like a good game and entertainment, that's why I watch the matches
if the match is boring and my favorite team is playing, I turn off the television
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 15, 2024, 07:11:18 PM
Bayern this season even looks very trustworthy. Their goal productivity has also increased rapidly. So it is very difficult to predict whether Bayern will lose to Barcelona or not. But it would indeed be a very satisfying result if Hansi Flick managed to break the streak of defeats that Barcelona has mostly experienced when meeting Bayern so far. But a draw could happen. because considering the performance of both teams is currently at its best.

Maybe but I still don't like them as a team
I don't know why I don't like it, maybe it's the style of play or the fact of being a square team
I like a good game and entertainment, that's why I watch the matches
if the match is boring and my favorite team is playing, I turn off the television
Do you mean the Bayern club's style of play?
If yes then I understand that. But I quite like Barcelona's style of play because currently their style of play is a bit similar to the Spanish national team's style of play. Which makes me like their style of play. Even though it's a little different after being changed by Hansi Flick, Barcelona is still an entertaining team when we watch them play. Meanwhile, Bayern is a bit monotonous, although sometimes they can also make big surprises by scoring lots of goals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on October 16, 2024, 04:08:00 PM
I immediately gave their head2head record, and the last time Barcelona could win a match when facing Bayern Munich was in 2015, that means 9 years they can no longer beat Bayern Munich, even though they meet quite often in the Champions League.

This is an opportunity for Hansi Flick to be able to break Barcelona's negative record, but no one knows for sure whether he will succeed or not.
Bayern this season even looks very trustworthy. Their goal productivity has also increased rapidly. So it is very difficult to predict whether Bayern will lose to Barcelona or not. But it would indeed be a very satisfying result if Hansi Flick managed to break the streak of defeats that Barcelona has mostly experienced when meeting Bayern so far. But a draw could happen. because considering the performance of both teams is currently at its best.
Yes you are right, a draw is not impossible, especially since the performance of both teams also looks good and it is difficult for us to predict who will emerge as the winner in this match.

However, usually something we don't think about happens in football, usually due to technical or non-technical factors. We cannot see what will happen in the match, because one of them could experience something unexpected, a red card, a strategy that doesn't work and so on. That can be felt by Bayern Munich or Barcelona.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 16, 2024, 06:09:04 PM
I immediately gave their head2head record, and the last time Barcelona could win a match when facing Bayern Munich was in 2015, that means 9 years they can no longer beat Bayern Munich, even though they meet quite often in the Champions League.

This is an opportunity for Hansi Flick to be able to break Barcelona's negative record, but no one knows for sure whether he will succeed or not.
Bayern this season even looks very trustworthy. Their goal productivity has also increased rapidly. So it is very difficult to predict whether Bayern will lose to Barcelona or not. But it would indeed be a very satisfying result if Hansi Flick managed to break the streak of defeats that Barcelona has mostly experienced when meeting Bayern so far. But a draw could happen. because considering the performance of both teams is currently at its best.
Yes you are right, a draw is not impossible, especially since the performance of both teams also looks good and it is difficult for us to predict who will emerge as the winner in this match.

However, usually something we don't think about happens in football, usually due to technical or non-technical factors. We cannot see what will happen in the match, because one of them could experience something unexpected, a red card, a strategy that doesn't work and so on. That can be felt by Bayern Munich or Barcelona.
The only thing that will be considered a surprise in the Barcelona vs Bayern match is perhaps if one of the teams loses with a big defeat or with a large number of goals. But the chances of that happening seem quite difficult. Because the performance of the two teams seems balanced at the moment. So that a fierce match will really happen. but I hope the match will be exciting, showing high aggressiveness from both teams. I always feel bored when I see both teams being too careful and playing the ball more in the middle.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on October 17, 2024, 06:28:26 PM
Yes you are right, a draw is not impossible, especially since the performance of both teams also looks good and it is difficult for us to predict who will emerge as the winner in this match.

However, usually something we don't think about happens in football, usually due to technical or non-technical factors. We cannot see what will happen in the match, because one of them could experience something unexpected, a red card, a strategy that doesn't work and so on. That can be felt by Bayern Munich or Barcelona.
The only thing that will be considered a surprise in the Barcelona vs Bayern match is perhaps if one of the teams loses with a big defeat or with a large number of goals. But the chances of that happening seem quite difficult. Because the performance of the two teams seems balanced at the moment. So that a fierce match will really happen. but I hope the match will be exciting, showing high aggressiveness from both teams. I always feel bored when I see both teams being too careful and playing the ball more in the middle.
Well, this is something we can't predict yet, because in my opinion, even if one of them can win, the victory will be by a narrow score, but if the score is a landslide, it will be a surprise.

But it could happen, Barcelona once experienced a very embarrassing defeat, even until now that score is still a laughing stock for many people, and now when they meet again, the score 8-2 is still the spice before the match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on October 17, 2024, 11:50:04 PM
Do you mean the Bayern club's style of play?
If yes then I understand that. But I quite like Barcelona's style of play because currently their style of play is a bit similar to the Spanish national team's style of play. Which makes me like their style of play. Even though it's a little different after being changed by Hansi Flick, Barcelona is still an entertaining team when we watch them play. Meanwhile, Bayern is a bit monotonous, although sometimes they can also make big surprises by scoring lots of goals.
Every coach is different in his tactical style - some are interesting and some are boring depending on how you perceive them.

I like Bayern Munich's game because it always appears to attack so with a lot of attacking this team can score more goals in addition to the great ability of the squad can do more goal productivity.

And curious how they meet Barcelona now, will there be another goal party from this match?
In my prediction maybe the game will remain and remain interesting to watch.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on October 18, 2024, 01:39:32 AM
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Every coach is different in his tactical style - some are interesting and some are boring depending on how you perceive them.

I like Bayern Munich's game because it always appears to attack so with a lot of attacking this team can score more goals in addition to the great ability of the squad can do more goal productivity.

And curious how they meet Barcelona now, will there be another goal party from this match?
In my prediction maybe the game will remain and remain interesting to watch.

Bayern plays a quality attacking football with their wingers and some other key players in the midfield and defense (RB). Signing Olise was a very good signing that they maybe this season. He is just too technically sound as a player. Musiala and kimmich are also two players that I like to watch in every Bayern game. Their qualities is unmatched.

But even with this top level of performance, I won't give them that easy win against Barcelona. If it were to be Barce of last season, then we might easily agree that Bayern can come out victorious, but since the introduction of flick, Barce has been good and should not be underrated.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on October 18, 2024, 08:59:11 AM

I like Bayern Munich's game because it always appears to attack so with a lot of attacking this team can score more goals in addition to the great ability of the squad can do more goal productivity.

And curious how they meet Barcelona now, will there be another goal party from this match?
In my prediction maybe the game will remain and remain interesting to watch.

Based on statistics, Bayern won 11-2-2 against Barca and Barca has a 6-match losing streak against Bayern, but Barcelona will give them a better fight this time.
Bayern Scored 6 in their last game, they have scored 9 today, and Barcelona has also won the last two games beating opponents 7-0 and  4-1.
And yeah, Barca vs Bayern is going to be a cracker but I don't want to predict the result, I just want to watch this game and enjoy the football... :)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on October 18, 2024, 06:48:59 PM

I like Bayern Munich's game because it always appears to attack so with a lot of attacking this team can score more goals in addition to the great ability of the squad can do more goal productivity.

And curious how they meet Barcelona now, will there be another goal party from this match?
In my prediction maybe the game will remain and remain interesting to watch.

Based on statistics, Bayern won 11-2-2 against Barca and Barca has a 6-match losing streak against Bayern, but Barcelona will give them a better fight this time.
Bayern Scored 6 in their last game, they have scored 9 today, and Barcelona has also won the last two games beating opponents 7-0 and  4-1.
And yeah, Barca vs Bayern is going to be a cracker but I don't want to predict the result, I just want to watch this game and enjoy the football... :)
That's what Barcelona's H2H is worse when meeting Bayern Munich including at home they lost and were humiliated before and now they meet again like a nightmare, of course people say this will be a little different he said.

No problem, I have confidence that Bayern Munich will win again mentally they meet Barcelona like a tiger that is preying, therefore the possibility of watching is certain but will bet on Bayern Munich.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on October 18, 2024, 07:22:04 PM
I immediately gave their head2head record, and the last time Barcelona could win a match when facing Bayern Munich was in 2015, that means 9 years they can no longer beat Bayern Munich, even though they meet quite often in the Champions League.

This is an opportunity for Hansi Flick to be able to break Barcelona's negative record, but no one knows for sure whether he will succeed or not.
Bayern this season even looks very trustworthy. Their goal productivity has also increased rapidly. So it is very difficult to predict whether Bayern will lose to Barcelona or not. But it would indeed be a very satisfying result if Hansi Flick managed to break the streak of defeats that Barcelona has mostly experienced when meeting Bayern so far. But a draw could happen. because considering the performance of both teams is currently at its best.
Yes you are right, a draw is not impossible, especially since the performance of both teams also looks good and it is difficult for us to predict who will emerge as the winner in this match.

However, usually something we don't think about happens in football, usually due to technical or non-technical factors. We cannot see what will happen in the match, because one of them could experience something unexpected, a red card, a strategy that doesn't work and so on. That can be felt by Bayern Munich or Barcelona.
Barcelona are found of having red card in their critical matches which always lead to their defeat. I hope that they will avoid such recklessness in this match so that it will not be an opportunity for Bayern to win them hands down. However, Barcelona is in a good form with sharp attackers, so I expect much from them. On the other hand, Bayern are known to be the husband of Barcelona because in all their meetings, Bayern have won the most.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: debra on October 18, 2024, 11:49:41 PM
That's what Barcelona's H2H is worse when meeting Bayern Munich including at home they lost and were humiliated before and now they meet again like a nightmare, of course people say this will be a little different he said.

No problem, I have confidence that Bayern Munich will win again mentally they meet Barcelona like a tiger that is preying, therefore the possibility of watching is certain but will bet on Bayern Munich.
Bayern Munich is indeed more superior when they played against Barcelona. They have good stats in the last matches. It is different when they played against Real Madrid, they often get bad results. However, it is the stats of the past matches, the current situation can be different. Moreover, the next match will be held in Barcelona home. I think Barcelona gets the advantage in this match.

I don't doubt the mentality of Bayern players, they are top players. But we must know that Barcelona have some players who know well Bayern Munich, especially Lewandowski. I think Lewandowski will be the nightmare for Bayern Munich.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on October 19, 2024, 04:10:19 PM
Liverpool will visit RB Leipzig's headquarters in the 3rd match of the Champions League this season, although they will act as the away team, but their chances of winning are quite large.

Leipzig have always lost in the 2 matches they have played in the Champions League, while Liverpool is one of the teams that has won 2 matches. I also think they will be able to win as long as they can be consistent with their current performance.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on October 19, 2024, 06:27:18 PM
Liverpool will visit RB Leipzig's headquarters in the 3rd match of the Champions League this season, although they will act as the away team, but their chances of winning are quite large.

Leipzig have always lost in the 2 matches they have played in the Champions League, while Liverpool is one of the teams that has won 2 matches. I also think they will be able to win as long as they can be consistent with their current performance.
Leipzig are not a match for Liverpool this season if Liverpool take the game seriously Leipzig will stand no chance. Liverpool coach will try todo a lot of team rotation to make sure that that his players are not exhausted by the tough fixture against Chelsea.

Difficult predicting the team that will win the Champions League this season, it is not even looking sure for Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on October 19, 2024, 07:03:52 PM
Liverpool will visit RB Leipzig's headquarters in the 3rd match of the Champions League this season, although they will act as the away team, but their chances of winning are quite large.

Leipzig have always lost in the 2 matches they have played in the Champions League, while Liverpool is one of the teams that has won 2 matches. I also think they will be able to win as long as they can be consistent with their current performance.
Leipzig got loss last two matches in UEFA Champion League from Atletico Madrid and Juventus, actually should be motivate for Liverpool get three consecutives winning in Champion League when facing Leipzig to secure the top standings with directly qualify to knock out round.
But Liverpool have to play on difficult match in domestic league tomorrow will face Liverpool, get loss concentration for Champion League match if Liverpool not make rotation and playing full team for domestic league match. Its important match between domestic league and champion league because Liverpool want to secure top position standings.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on October 20, 2024, 03:48:06 PM
Liverpool will visit RB Leipzig's headquarters in the 3rd match of the Champions League this season, although they will act as the away team, but their chances of winning are quite large.

Leipzig have always lost in the 2 matches they have played in the Champions League, while Liverpool is one of the teams that has won 2 matches. I also think they will be able to win as long as they can be consistent with their current performance.
Leipzig got loss last two matches in UEFA Champion League from Atletico Madrid and Juventus, actually should be motivate for Liverpool get three consecutives winning in Champion League when facing Leipzig to secure the top standings with directly qualify to knock out round.
But Liverpool have to play on difficult match in domestic league tomorrow will face Liverpool, get loss concentration for Champion League match if Liverpool not make rotation and playing full team for domestic league match. Its important match between domestic league and champion league because Liverpool want to secure top position standings.
Chelsea will be their opponent this week in the Premier League, it will not be an easy match for them because Chelsea is also in a pretty good condition right now. They can improve further than last season which was a bad season for them.

But Liverpool will be the host in this match, it is advantageous for them because they will get full support from their supporters. Their chances of winning are quite big, so they must take advantage of it well.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: GbitG on October 21, 2024, 01:10:29 AM

Bayern this season even looks very trustworthy. Their goal productivity has also increased rapidly. So it is very difficult to predict whether Bayern will lose to Barcelona or not. But it would indeed be a very satisfying result if Hansi Flick managed to break the streak of defeats that Barcelona has mostly experienced when meeting Bayern so far. But a draw could happen. because considering the performance of both teams is currently at its best.
Yes you are right, a draw is not impossible, especially since the performance of both teams also looks good and it is difficult for us to predict who will emerge as the winner in this match.

However, usually something we don't think about happens in football, usually due to technical or non-technical factors. We cannot see what will happen in the match, because one of them could experience something unexpected, a red card, a strategy that doesn't work and so on. That can be felt by Bayern Munich or Barcelona.
Hmmm that pretty interesting !
The match will be so much fun. Both teams looks so good there is 50/50 chance to get the chance for victory because both are just dominated the ex matches with goals as well as possession.

Bayern Munich's head 2 head record is better, which means that Barcelona has not won a match against Bayern Munich in 9 years. But now there is a chance that Hansi Flick can take revenge against Bayern Munich by twisting the h2h record. Squad wise also Barcelona is perfect because all the injured players have recovered especially Gavi who played a crucial role in Barcelona's team build up. And Barcelona put pressure on Bayern Munich by scoring a big number of goals. The rest let's see what happened next. Who becomes the winner and who becomes the loser?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 22, 2024, 05:27:53 PM
In the Real Madrid vs Dortmund match. I think as hosts Real Madrid will really make their supporters happy by winning the match against Dortmund. I want to see Mbappe's development in the Real Madrid squad in this match. Previously, Mbappe was absent from playing for the French national team. And I think Mbappe has trained hard enough to perform his best for Real Madrid. So I'm more curious about this. Because even though this match will be fierce, I think Real Madrid will win this match.

And regarding the Juventus vs VfB match, I think this will indeed be a match that is quite easy for us to predict. Namely, victory looks like it will belong to Juventus. So betting on Juventus is not a bad choice. And another match that might be quite easy to predict the outcome of is the Arsenal vs Shaktar match. Because I think Arteta's troops will win this match convincingly.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on October 22, 2024, 06:39:16 PM
And another match that might be quite easy to predict the outcome of is the Arsenal vs Shaktar match. Because I think Arteta's troops will win this match convincingly.
This is the must-win game for Arsenal if we must bounce back from the loss from the weekend in the Premier League. I don't underestimate any team in the champions league because they earned their place, so I hope that Shaktar do not become another bone for us to handle. We are obviously struggling in attack; based on the injury challenges we have, Arteta needs to raid the market for new players in January if we will do better in this Champions League campaign.

Saka will miss this game too, so we may still struggle if Arteta does not make a better choice than Sterling to fill that position.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 22, 2024, 06:55:20 PM
And another match that might be quite easy to predict the outcome of is the Arsenal vs Shaktar match. Because I think Arteta's troops will win this match convincingly.
This is the must-win game for Arsenal if we must bounce back from the loss from the weekend in the Premier League. I don't underestimate any team in the champions league because they earned their place, so I hope that Shaktar do not become another bone for us to handle. We are obviously struggling in attack; based on the injury challenges we have, Arteta needs to raid the market for new players in January if we will do better in this Champions League campaign.

Saka will miss this game too, so we may still struggle if Arteta does not make a better choice than Sterling to fill that position.
In the upcoming transfer market, Arsenal must make good use of it. Because they need more thorough preparation for the second half of this season which will be much more difficult.



The Milan vs Club Brugge match has now started. And actually, if AC Milan is in its best condition, Milan should win this match quite comfortably. But we know that under the new coaching, it is now a little difficult for us to predict AC Milan's performance. Fonseca may be starting to make progress little by little for AC Milan in Serie A. But I'm still not sure about AC Milan in the UCL with Fonseca. So I think it's difficult to predict the result of this match.

Meanwhile, for the Monaco vs Red Star match, I will think the same as most people, namely favoring Monaco. Because Monaco is always superior when facing Red Star.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on October 22, 2024, 07:14:26 PM
Maybe but I still don't like them as a team
I don't know why I don't like it, maybe it's the style of play or the fact of being a square team
I like a good game and entertainment, that's why I watch the matches
if the match is boring and my favorite team is playing, I turn off the television

If I'm watching match and I don't see much performance going on, I don't switch off the TV. Instead of staying on the TV, I just divide my focus and put half on the TV and the rest on the forum where I can share my idea on what is going on the match, it saves my time and instead of wasting the 90minutes on matches, I spend it on important football discussion here.

But when I have a bet on the game that is been played, whether they are my favorite club or not, I don't switch of the TV neither do I do another thing. My attention will be on seeing my predictions coming to realization, when my bet is won, I close the TV and do something else with my dear life.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Bhigdaddyjr on October 22, 2024, 10:02:12 PM
Today match isn’t going has we planed Dortmund vs Real Madrid the first half is going quite disappointing Madrid have lose the first half . Dortmund really perform very well and a perfect assist from Gurrassy and Malen finished it up which was the first goal from dortmund . The second goal was unaware by Madrid defense they never expected the goal . A perfect goal from Gittens . Madrid needs to put more pressure and perform a perfect come back a little pressure from Bellingham and mbappe this first half they really try to equalize but unfortunately it was failure.
We expect to see more from Madrid next half they really need to equalize and perform well we are looking forward to Madrid next half . Am expecting a goal from mbappe or Vinicius
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: debra on October 22, 2024, 10:31:08 PM
Real Madrid and Dortmund look like to end the match with a draw. Currently, each team scored 2 goals. Real Madrid almost missed points in this match because they failed scoring goals in the first half of the match, they just scored 2 goals in the early of second half. I think Ancelotti made a good change in Real Madrid game, they become more offensive now. Honestly, I want to see Real Madrid win in this match because they need points to improve their position in the UCL table. However, Dortmund is surely not a weak team, Dortmund is really strong in UCL.


Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Bhigdaddyjr on October 22, 2024, 10:55:17 PM
Real Madrid and Dortmund look like to end the match with a draw. Currently, each team scored 2 goals. Real Madrid almost missed points in this match because they failed scoring goals in the first half of the match, they just scored 2 goals in the early of second half. I think Ancelotti made a good change in Real Madrid game, they become more offensive now. Honestly, I want to see Real Madrid win in this match because they need points to improve their position in the UCL table. However, Dortmund is surely not a weak team, Dortmund is really strong in UCL.
Real Madrid have done it currently 5: 2 Madrid has done a perfect come back and still top it up with extra 3 and the match have been sealed already but it pains me that mbappe didn’t see enough chance to score unfortunately he didn’t scored.
Vinicius is very magnificent and and very impressive Vinci has done a hat-trick he really hit the game well he really impressed me he is very talented and good . Vinicius is very critical and very important in the team and the match has come to the end and Madrid was lift up by Vinicius a very talented and perfect player.
Seems Vinicius will really take the Ballon d’or he has really prove it in many match he really deserves it the boy is talented.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Asiska02 on October 22, 2024, 11:17:44 PM
In the Real Madrid vs Dortmund match. I think as hosts Real Madrid will really make their supporters happy by winning the match against Dortmund. I want to see Mbappe's development in the Real Madrid squad in this match. Previously, Mbappe was absent from playing for the French national team. And I think Mbappe has trained hard enough to perform his best for Real Madrid. So I'm more curious about this. Because even though this match will be fierce, I think Real Madrid will win this match.

Real Madrid have shown again that they’re the best in this competition. From two goals behind to leading with three goals ahead by the end of the match, isn’t that just too spectacular as a team? They are already giving us the instinct that they’re going to still be the winner of the champions league this season because they look very prepared and determined for that with what they played in this match. I thought Dortmund will give them a very tough time which they did give in a while and lost it all in the second half of the game which is very bad for them because they end up losing. Good comeback from Real Madrid in this match.

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And regarding the Juventus vs VfB match, I think this will indeed be a match that is quite easy for us to predict. Namely, victory looks like it will belong to Juventus. So betting on Juventus is not a bad choice. And another match that might be quite easy to predict the outcome of is the Arsenal vs Shaktar match. Because I think Arteta's troops will win this match convincingly.

Juventus were not able to win this game. Their performance was very great and I never for once thought that they won’t be able to win this match but unfortunately a final minute goal for  Stuttgart gave them the lead and they eventually won the match. Juventus should improve their performance as they’ve not been performing well in both league’s competitions they’re participating in.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on October 22, 2024, 11:30:19 PM
Real Madrid and Dortmund look like to end the match with a draw. Currently, each team scored 2 goals. Real Madrid almost missed points in this match because they failed scoring goals in the first half of the match, they just scored 2 goals in the early of second half. I think Ancelotti made a good change in Real Madrid game, they become more offensive now. Honestly, I want to see Real Madrid win in this match because they need points to improve their position in the UCL table. However, Dortmund is surely not a weak team, Dortmund is really strong in UCL.
Real Madrid have done it currently 5: 2 Madrid has done a perfect come back and still top it up with extra 3 and the match have been sealed already but it pains me that mbappe didn’t see enough chance to score unfortunately he didn’t scored.
Vinicius is very magnificent and and very impressive Vinci has done a hat-trick he really hit the game well he really impressed me he is very talented and good . Vinicius is very critical and very important in the team and the match has come to the end and Madrid was lift up by Vinicius a very talented and perfect player.
Seems Vinicius will really take the Ballon d’or he has really prove it in many match he really deserves it the boy is talented.
Real Madrid knows how to go about with their UCL matches, I saw the same spirit of Real Madrid in them today as the scored five goals in 50 minutes including 5 minutes extra time, and got all three points. What a magnificent come back by Ancelotti men. Vini is an incredible player.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on October 22, 2024, 11:34:46 PM
~snip

Real Madrid have shown again that they’re the best in this competition. From two goals behind to leading with three goals ahead by the end of the match, isn’t that just too spectacular as a team? They are already giving us the instinct that they’re going to still be the winner of the champions league this season because they look very prepared and determined for that with what they played in this match. I thought Dortmund will give them a very tough time which they did give in a while and lost it all in the second half of the game which is very bad for them because they end up losing. Good comeback from Real Madrid in this match.

From the look of things, it seems the other name for Champions league is real Madrid. I really don't know what more this team will have to do before they can convince those that are sceptical, that they are still the favorite to win the trophy. What a brilliant display from the Madrid side today. Dortmund would surely have themselves to blame, as they where unable to complete the task they already started well. In the first half, Dortmund literally played like a team at home, but the whole thing took a U-turn when they started losing focus. Congrats to madrid because they needed the win most, and they got what they worked hard for.



As for other games, quite surprising with Arsenal's performance. If they can't learn to play without certain players, then they might struggle in all competitions. Football is far beyond having all possessions. The end result is what matters most, and arteta needs to understand that. Congrats to every other team that won tonight. Can't wait for other exciting fixtures tomorrow night.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on October 22, 2024, 11:42:05 PM
Real Madrid and Dortmund look like to end the match with a draw.
Real Madrid have done it currently 5: 2 Madrid has done a perfect come back and still top it up with extra 3 and the match have been sealed already but it pains me that mbappe didn’t see enough chance to score unfortunately he didn’t scored.
For some reason, Dortmund were too quick to be confident and replace the player who scored the goal. However, this time, Real Madrid's performance was like returning to the previous era, dangerous in the second half and unstoppable.

Although Mbappe did not score, he also provided good assists for the goals that were created. And this time, really, Vini JR did an extraordinary hat trick. He proved that his quality is still that good. Even in extra time, he further completed the victory with an additional goal from him.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on October 23, 2024, 12:16:00 AM
Real Madrid and Dortmund look like to end the match with a draw. Currently, each team scored 2 goals. Real Madrid almost missed points in this match because they failed scoring goals in the first half of the match, they just scored 2 goals in the early of second half. I think Ancelotti made a good change in Real Madrid game, they become more offensive now. Honestly, I want to see Real Madrid win in this match because they need points to improve their position in the UCL table. However, Dortmund is surely not a weak team, Dortmund is really strong in UCL.
Real Madrid have done it currently 5: 2 Madrid has done a perfect come back and still top it up with extra 3 and the match have been sealed already but it pains me that mbappe didn’t see enough chance to score unfortunately he didn’t scored.
Vinicius is very magnificent and and very impressive Vinci has done a hat-trick he really hit the game well he really impressed me he is very talented and good . Vinicius is very critical and very important in the team and the match has come to the end and Madrid was lift up by Vinicius a very talented and perfect player.
Seems Vinicius will really take the Ballon d’or he has really prove it in many match he really deserves it the boy is talented.
What more can we say about the boy named Vinicius Junior? He has shown beyond doubt that he deserves the Ballon d'Or. I was thrilled with how he scored hat tricks, giving Real Madrid their well-deserved victory against Dortmund to seal the scoreline to 5-2. Dortmund thought they could play a defensive formation in the second half to have their 3-point win against Real Madrid. They never knew Real Madrid wouldn't allow such a thing to happen at their home. However, Dortmund should get ready to face their next opponent "Sturm Graz" rather than dwell on the lost victory they allowed to slip from their hands because their second-half performance was just horrible.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 23, 2024, 05:16:36 AM
In the Real Madrid vs Dortmund match. I think as hosts Real Madrid will really make their supporters happy by winning the match against Dortmund. I want to see Mbappe's development in the Real Madrid squad in this match. Previously, Mbappe was absent from playing for the French national team. And I think Mbappe has trained hard enough to perform his best for Real Madrid. So I'm more curious about this. Because even though this match will be fierce, I think Real Madrid will win this match.

Real Madrid have shown again that they’re the best in this competition. From two goals behind to leading with three goals ahead by the end of the match, isn’t that just too spectacular as a team? They are already giving us the instinct that they’re going to still be the winner of the champions league this season because they look very prepared and determined for that with what they played in this match. I thought Dortmund will give them a very tough time which they did give in a while and lost it all in the second half of the game which is very bad for them because they end up losing. Good comeback from Real Madrid in this match.
Real Madrid made a very dramatic victory. because they were 2 goals behind in the first half but responded with more goals in the second half. Dortmund seems caught off guard. They felt too calm about the 2 goals they scored in the first half. Meanwhile, Real Madrid changed strategy and made the second half theirs. Well Real Madrid showed that they can always come back even after being behind by more than 1 goal. They always know how to make the match more enjoyable for those watching.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 23, 2024, 05:30:11 PM
Hmmm that pretty interesting !
The match will be so much fun. Both teams looks so good there is 50/50 chance to get the chance for victory because both are just dominated the ex matches with goals as well as possession.

Bayern Munich's head 2 head record is better, which means that Barcelona has not won a match against Bayern Munich in 9 years. But now there is a chance that Hansi Flick can take revenge against Bayern Munich by twisting the h2h record. Squad wise also Barcelona is perfect because all the injured players have recovered especially Gavi who played a crucial role in Barcelona's team build up. And Barcelona put pressure on Bayern Munich by scoring a big number of goals. The rest let's see what happened next. Who becomes the winner and who becomes the loser?

Well Bayern can do better, this time I think they have everything to do better, I could say that Bayer is doing very well now, both in the Bundesliga and in the UCL, I think things can be done well if they get to the semi-finals more or less and can get past any team, expensive with Harry Kane who can generate more forward football to score goals, I think that is the formula that can be given, I don't see any other way, what I can say is that if we look at the games in the UCL, the focus is on Madrid, Barcelona, ​​City, now Bayern can make the difference.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on October 23, 2024, 05:52:42 PM
Real Madrid made a very dramatic victory. because they were 2 goals behind in the first half but responded with more goals in the second half. Dortmund seems caught off guard. They felt too calm about the 2 goals they scored in the first half. Meanwhile, Real Madrid changed strategy and made the second half theirs. Well Real Madrid showed that they can always come back even after being behind by more than 1 goal. They always know how to make the match more enjoyable for those watching.
Many say that when watching a Real Madrid match, make sure to watch until the match is completely finished, and that's what happened in this match.

Borussia Dortmund were on top after the 2-goal advantage they created in the first half, but in the second half they had to experience how Real Madrid played. Yes, that's how they are, they are one of the best teams that can make impressive comebacks.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on October 23, 2024, 06:03:44 PM
(https://i.ibb.co.com/3mzQxv0/Villa.png)

While everyone was mesmerized by Real Madrid's performance, I was intrigued by Aston Villa's brilliant performance, they won again...
3 matches 3 wins, 9 points out of 9, three clean sheets, six goals & counting...
This Champions League business seems too easy for them :)
The perfect performance from the Unai squad, Aston Villa is proving their strength on the big stage, Villa goes TOP of the UEFA Champions League table!
The Villans have a marvelous season, better than the Newcastle stretch a few years back.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on October 23, 2024, 07:41:57 PM
For some reason, Dortmund were too quick to be confident and replace the player who scored the goal. However, this time, Real Madrid's performance was like returning to the previous era, dangerous in the second half and unstoppable.

Although Mbappe did not score, he also provided good assists for the goals that were created. And this time, really, Vini JR did an extraordinary hat trick. He proved that his quality is still that good. Even in extra time, he further completed the victory with an additional goal from him.
Imagine 5 goals in the second half, that's Real Madrid who can always make a comeback under any circumstances, including last season how they fell behind Bayern Munich and were able to turn things around.

Meanwhile, Dortmund's chances of winning were great at the Santiago Bernabeu with the first half already 2 goals, but unfortunately in the second half they had many gaps and Real Madrid scored more easily.

Vini is indeed a great and extraordinary player.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on October 23, 2024, 09:10:12 PM

Vini is indeed a great and extraordinary player.
He showed without a doubt that he deserves to be the world best, there will be no doubt now about his eligibility.

Hot game today with Hansi Flick facing his old club Bayern that are also doing very well by their own standards. Within the first 10 minutes, Barcelona have a lead already.

The game is going to be intense from start to end.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on October 23, 2024, 09:32:28 PM
(https://i.ibb.co.com/3mzQxv0/Villa.png)

While everyone was mesmerized by Real Madrid's performance, I was intrigued by Aston Villa's brilliant performance, they won again...
3 matches 3 wins, 9 points out of 9, three clean sheets, six goals & counting...
This Champions League business seems too easy for them :)
The perfect performance from the Unai squad, Aston Villa is proving their strength on the big stage, Villa goes TOP of the UEFA Champions League table!
The Villans have a marvelous season, better than the Newcastle stretch a few years back.

I didn't see the match, i only saw the summary and i want say, as a football fan, that Aston Villa deserved the victory
Bologna was practically a ghost, non-existent, inconsistent

by losing its coach the team Bologna lost the soul that pulled it by the hair towards victory
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on October 23, 2024, 10:50:03 PM
It has been an interesting match between Bayern Munich and Barcelona in Camp Nou, but the host are dealing with their visitors mercilessly without reserve, as Barcelona is currently on four goal and Baywen have only scored one goal. Raphina is the player who scored a hat-trick and that has put Bayern in a very tight corner of equalizing all three goals before the next 10 minutes that the match will come to an end. I thought it will be a difficult match for Barcelona but it was as easy as playing with a mediocre club. Bayern lost their sensation in this game. It is 4-1.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on October 23, 2024, 11:34:24 PM
It has been an interesting match between Bayern Munich and Barcelona in Camp Nou, but the host are dealing with their visitors mercilessly without reserve, as Barcelona is currently on four goal and Baywen have only scored one goal. Raphina is the player who scored a hat-trick and that has put Bayern in a very tight corner of equalizing all three goals before the next 10 minutes that the match will come to an end. I thought it will be a difficult match for Barcelona but it was as easy as playing with a mediocre club. Bayern lost their sensation in this game. It is 4-1.

Even though Bayern had a better possession of the ball, Barcelona had just one thing in mind, and that was to win the game comfortably. Barcelona played a typical Barcelona type of football tonight. Love the way they played the Tiki-taka, and also made some crazy transitions at some point. I think that same transition was what Yamal used in providing an assist to Raphina's third goal. Bayern where able to match the energy of Barcelona, but they couldn't create good chances for themselves. With the way Barcelona played tonight, the El Clasico fixture is a must watch game for me. Flick is indeed a good coach.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on October 23, 2024, 11:43:20 PM
F----
Imagine 5 goals in the second half, that's Real Madrid who can always make a comeback under any circumstances, including last season how they fell behind Bayern Munich and were able to turn things around.
Yes, really satisfied with their performance, really like the real Real Madrid, who played their opponents by giving them hope first, and finally the epic comeback happened in the second half until extra time. It was very satisfying to see this result, especially when Vini completed his hat trick, wow, he was really cool, and still cool.


It has been an interesting match between Bayern Munich and Barcelona in Camp Nou, but the host are dealing with their visitors mercilessly without reserve, as Barcelona is currently on four goal and Baywen have only scored one goal.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/10/23/KGaho.png)

Bayern Munich seemed to dominate the match, but unfortunately they often failed to bring their attacks to the Barcelona defense line so that again and again they were hit by a comeback from Barcelona. Unlike before, usually Bayern Munich will play Barcelona, ​​but this time, Barcelona has a combination of Hansi Flick and also Lewandowski who are graduates of Bayern Munich, so Flick especially can understand Bayern Munich's tactics better. and finally can make Barcelona superior this time, and slaughter Bayern Munich without mercy.
Great performance by Rapinha, a hattrick for him
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on October 23, 2024, 11:49:57 PM
I didn't get a chance to see any of the ECL games and just catching up with the results from yesterday and today.
Looks like we have an unexpected leader of the table, Aston Villa, who are emerging as the dark horse of this tournament.
In fact, all 4 Premier League clubs have won their games in this round, and they now occupy the top 3, with Arsenal lagging a bit behind in 9th position, but with the same amount of points as 3rd Man City.

In contrast, only one of the 4 German teams has won their game. Stuttgart, a much underrated team in my opinion, has finally managed to earn 3 points after the additional time winner by Toure. I don't know what the odds were, but I'm sure Juventus was the favourite.

I think the gap between Premier League teams and the rest will get wider as the league progresses. I think only Real and Barcelona can perform at a similarly high level, but they might not be as consistent as the English teams.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: examplens on October 24, 2024, 12:11:22 AM
Bayern Munich seemed to dominate the match, but unfortunately they often failed to bring their attacks to the Barcelona defense line so that again and again they were hit by a comeback from Barcelona. Unlike before, usually Bayern Munich will play Barcelona, ​​but this time, Barcelona has a combination of Hansi Flick and also Lewandowski who are graduates of Bayern Munich, so Flick especially can understand Bayern Munich's tactics better. and finally can make Barcelona superior this time, and slaughter Bayern Munich without mercy.
I'm glad to see that someone is humiliating Bayern, I'm just sorry that Barcelona didn't score more goals. Those cunts Bayern humiliate whenever they can, it's nice to see things turn around a bit.
Just a few weeks earlier, they gave 9 goals to Dinamo Zagreb, they were looking forward to that victory even though the opponent was undersized and obviously had a very bad day. They show zero respect to their opponents, that's how they should be treated.

By the way, I'm not a fan of Barcelona, ​​I have an equal antipathy towards that club.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on October 24, 2024, 03:12:25 PM
The 3rd match of the Champions League has been played in full by all teams and we can start to see how the situation is in the standings. We can start to see which teams will be eliminated in this league round.

However, there is still very fierce competition, especially in positions 8 and above and 9 and below. The distance between the teams is only 1 point and it is filled by many teams, so each match result will be very decisive.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on October 24, 2024, 08:20:46 PM

Bayern Munich seemed to dominate the match, but unfortunately they often failed to bring their attacks to the Barcelona defense line so that again and again they were hit by a comeback from Barcelona. Unlike before, usually Bayern Munich will play Barcelona, ​​but this time, Barcelona has a combination of Hansi Flick and also Lewandowski who are graduates of Bayern Munich, so Flick especially can understand Bayern Munich's tactics better. and finally can make Barcelona superior this time, and slaughter Bayern Munich without mercy.
Great performance by Rapinha, a hattrick for him

It was a proper revenge back against Bayern not just by winning but by actually outplaying them, and it funnily enough took the same manager that embarrassed Barca to begin with, so poetic..
Bayern came prepared for Yamal and Lewandowski but Rapinha came out of the syllabus :)
And Rapinha is the real Barcelona material, his 100th appearance for Barcelona that too against Bayern and he scored a hat-trick!
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: lombok on October 24, 2024, 08:57:45 PM
The 3rd match of the Champions League has been played in full by all teams and we can start to see how the situation is in the standings. We can start to see which teams will be eliminated in this league round.

However, there is still very fierce competition, especially in positions 8 and above and 9 and below. The distance between the teams is only 1 point and it is filled by many teams, so each match result will be very decisive.
Definitely, We notice that in global world football the battle in the Champions League becomes interesting after the 3rd meeting where patterns begin to emerge. But it is not over yet, at least regarding the middle part of the standings table where the fight is very condensed. The competitive gap between the teams is just one point and therefore every match in the cycle has a huge difference between the rankings. This increases the level of competition and we are well aware that even the smallest aspect in each match determines which position the team is going to be at the end of the tournament. The teams that are at the lower end of the rankings now should be really grabbing every chance just to stay in this competition.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on October 24, 2024, 09:24:13 PM
Many say that when watching a Real Madrid match, make sure to watch until the match is completely finished, and that's what happened in this match.

Borussia Dortmund were on top after the 2-goal advantage they created in the first half, but in the second half they had to experience how Real Madrid played. Yes, that's how they are, they are one of the best teams that can make impressive comebacks.

If you want to watch Real Madrid players match in Champions league and they are losing, just take that risk and bet high that Real Madrid are going to win and you will be surprised how they are going to make the come back. They have done that countless times even with almighty Bayern Munich and Manchester City, definitely Dortmund were learning from them.

The way Real Madrid was playing, you can see that Rodrigo was even injured and that guy made a good ball control than even someone that was fit and sitting outside the match. I just love the way these guys play with dedication, it's what they do that's why they called them Halla Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on October 24, 2024, 10:19:51 PM

Vini is indeed a great and extraordinary player.
He showed without a doubt that he deserves to be the world best, there will be no doubt now about his eligibility.

Hot game today with Hansi Flick facing his old club Bayern that are also doing very well by their own standards. Within the first 10 minutes, Barcelona have a lead already.

The game is going to be intense from start to end.
Bayern against Barcelona is really an interesting treat because with the victory Barcelona got in this match we can indirectly see that in the end Barcelona was able to throw away the previous h2h by not being able to win against Bayern and that happened because Flick managed to provide the best scheme in this match.

Flick has been at Bayern for a long time and he knows how Bayern attack and how to deal with Bayern's attacks so that they do more Conter atack than try open play with tiki-taka that they always do and the results are very good where Bayern are very troubled by what they do and have to lose with a fairly large score.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on October 24, 2024, 11:10:25 PM
Bayern is getting a lot of bashing after their last game, but I don't think it's all that bad.
If they have any performance problems at all, that would be a problem with consistency not the lack of skills.
In all fairness, they performed better than I expected from them, given the not-so-great league performance last season and the fact the club took a gamble with a manager with very little experience in the highest level of competition.

They could've done better in the league game against Eintracht, and one point in an away game against Leverkusen was a decent outcome (they've one all the other league games), considering how dominant Leverkusen have been in the prior season.
The 4-1 loss to Barcelone might indeed look like they got outclassed, but if you look at the game stats, Bayern dominated in ball possession and had a similar number of shots on goal, so it wasn't as one-sided performance as many seem to think.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on October 24, 2024, 11:24:12 PM
Bayern Munich seemed to dominate the match, but unfortunately they often failed to bring their attacks to the Barcelona defense line so that again and again they were hit by a comeback from Barcelona.
I'm glad to see that someone is humiliating Bayern, I'm just sorry that Barcelona didn't score more goals. Those cunts Bayern humiliate whenever they can, it's nice to see things turn around a bit.
Just a few weeks earlier, they gave 9 goals to Dinamo Zagreb, they were looking forward to that victory even though the opponent was undersized and obviously had a very bad day. They show zero respect to their opponents, that's how they should be treated.

By the way, I'm not a fan of Barcelona, ​​I have an equal antipathy towards that club.
In the last match yesterday, Barcelona really saw a change when they played against Bayern Munich. Usually, this big Bundesliga club is one of the annoying clubs for Barcelona, ​​which usually humiliates Barcelona without mercy, even Barcelona was once slaughtered 8-2 by Bayern Munich. and even if you look at H2H, from the previous 6 matches, Bayern Munich always won. and this time this year, with Lewandowski and also Hansi Flcik ex Bayern Munich in Barcelona, ​​they can really turn things around to be that good, with a big win over Barcelona. This is quite satisfying, yes, even though there is still a big gap when viewed from the H2H history.

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/10/24/KREcb.png)
https://www.sofascore.ro/ro/football/match/barcelona-fc-bayern-munchen/xdbsrgb
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on October 24, 2024, 11:38:24 PM
Bayern Munich seemed to dominate the match, but unfortunately they often failed to bring their attacks to the Barcelona defense line so that again and again they were hit by a comeback from Barcelona.
I'm glad to see that someone is humiliating Bayern, I'm just sorry that Barcelona didn't score more goals. Those cunts Bayern humiliate whenever they can, it's nice to see things turn around a bit.
Just a few weeks earlier, they gave 9 goals to Dinamo Zagreb, they were looking forward to that victory even though the opponent was undersized and obviously had a very bad day. They show zero respect to their opponents, that's how they should be treated.

By the way, I'm not a fan of Barcelona, ​​I have an equal antipathy towards that club.
In the last match yesterday, Barcelona really saw a change when they played against Bayern Munich. Usually, this big Bundesliga club is one of the annoying clubs for Barcelona, ​​which usually humiliates Barcelona without mercy, even Barcelona was once slaughtered 8-2 by Bayern Munich. and even if you look at H2H, from the previous 6 matches, Bayern Munich always won. and this time this year, with Lewandowski and also Hansi Flcik ex Bayern Munich in Barcelona, ​​they can really turn things around to be that good, with a big win over Barcelona. This is quite satisfying, yes, even though there is still a big gap when viewed from the H2H history.
It's all good. It was Barca's time to hit back and dominate their European rivals. Both teams are in the knockout phase in the table but I still expect both teams to advance to the round of 16 and who knows if they will face each other again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: examplens on October 24, 2024, 11:52:42 PM
In the last match yesterday, Barcelona really saw a change when they played against Bayern Munich. Usually, this big Bundesliga club is one of the annoying clubs for Barcelona, ​​which usually humiliates Barcelona without mercy, even Barcelona was once slaughtered 8-2 by Bayern Munich. and even if you look at H2H, from the previous 6 matches, Bayern Munich always won. and this time this year, with Lewandowski and also Hansi Flcik ex Bayern Munich in Barcelona, ​​they can really turn things around to be that good, with a big win over Barcelona. This is quite satisfying, yes, even though there is still a big gap when viewed from the H2H history.
It's all good. It was Barca's time to hit back and dominate their European rivals. Both teams are in the knockout phase in the table but I still expect both teams to advance to the round of 16 and who knows if they will face each other again.
Both teams are the same cunt there. If they have the opportunity, they will certainly try to humiliate someone, especially when there are smaller clubs on the other side. For this reason, I love it when embarrassing results happen to them too, and I hope there will be more of them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on October 25, 2024, 04:25:27 PM
The 3rd match of the Champions League has been played in full by all teams and we can start to see how the situation is in the standings. We can start to see which teams will be eliminated in this league round.

However, there is still very fierce competition, especially in positions 8 and above and 9 and below. The distance between the teams is only 1 point and it is filled by many teams, so each match result will be very decisive.
Definitely, We notice that in global world football the battle in the Champions League becomes interesting after the 3rd meeting where patterns begin to emerge. But it is not over yet, at least regarding the middle part of the standings table where the fight is very condensed. The competitive gap between the teams is just one point and therefore every match in the cycle has a huge difference between the rankings. This increases the level of competition and we are well aware that even the smallest aspect in each match determines which position the team is going to be at the end of the tournament. The teams that are at the lower end of the rankings now should be really grabbing every chance just to stay in this competition.
There are still 5 matches left, which means that even the teams that are currently in a better position cannot be comfortable just like that, because the number of matches still allows them to be shifted if they cannot play well in the remaining matches.

What is interesting is when I see that positions 1,2 and 3 are all filled by teams from the Premier League, and even now the standings are led by Aston Villa who are actually not much taken into account.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on October 25, 2024, 06:57:14 PM


What is interesting is when I see that positions 1,2 and 3 are all filled by teams from the Premier League, and even now the standings are led by Aston Villa who are actually not much taken into account.

Yep. The top three are Premier League teams. Liverpool and Villa are joint top but Villa has 1 more goal and the two teams under Villa are miles ahead of them in the PL.
But there is no guarantee that a Premier League club will win the Champions League this season.
And yeah we know that it's only three games, the Champions League has just started. In more games Barcelona and Madrid are coming for that first position because they have made big statements in the last matches.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 25, 2024, 07:04:20 PM



What is interesting is when I see that positions 1,2 and 3 are all filled by teams from the Premier League, and even now the standings are led by Aston Villa who are actually not much taken into account.
It seems like teams from the Premier League do have an advantage over teams from other leagues, but what caught my attention was Aston Villa who made 3 consecutive wins with a pretty good score without conceding a single goal. And we know that the opponents that Aston Villa faces are not weak opponents, but they are Young Boys, Bayern and Bologna.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on October 25, 2024, 09:39:15 PM



What is interesting is when I see that positions 1,2 and 3 are all filled by teams from the Premier League, and even now the standings are led by Aston Villa who are actually not much taken into account.
It seems like teams from the Premier League do have an advantage over teams from other leagues, but what caught my attention was Aston Villa who made 3 consecutive wins with a pretty good score without conceding a single goal. And we know that the opponents that Aston Villa faces are not weak opponents, but they are Young Boys, Bayern and Bologna.
Anyway, Unai Emery is doing a great job for his team so that it has not conceded and is temporarily in the top position.
The next match against Club Brugge which Aston Villa can say will win again considering the performance is quite good and I think Aston Villa will qualify not need to enter the playoffs later if they continue to collect many points.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on October 25, 2024, 10:45:18 PM
Anyway, Unai Emery is doing a great job for his team so that it has not conceded and is temporarily in the top position.
The next match against Club Brugge which Aston Villa can say will win again considering the performance is quite good and I think Aston Villa will qualify not need to enter the playoffs later if they continue to collect many points.
Who would have expected Aston Villa to be the club having this kind of result in the Champions League? The supporters of the football club will be very proud of the result that the club has achieved, as they are benefiting from the tactical intelligence of the coach and then the form that some players are on, like Duran. I am not expecting Aston Villa to win the Champions League but I believe that they can achieve an amazing result that is unexpected.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on October 25, 2024, 11:20:08 PM
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Who would have expected Aston Villa to be the club having this kind of result in the Champions League? The supporters of the football club will be very proud of the result that the club has achieved, as they are benefiting from the tactical intelligence of the coach and then the form that some players are on, like Duran. I am not expecting Aston Villa to win the Champions League but I believe that they can achieve an amazing result that is unexpected.

I don't think that they are getting this result based on the tactics of the manager alone. I feel the manager has being able to build confidence in this players, making them very resistive and treat to bigger teams as well. Just imagine, they already have two strikers, and the manager is using them both in an effective way. They don't even have the best defense, but they play a defensive ball like a team, and also attack like a team. I agree with you that they will definitely go far in the competition, but they are not the favorite to win the trophy. I think they have a bigger Chance to win other title in their league, and definitely not the UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on October 25, 2024, 11:55:00 PM
In the last match yesterday, Barcelona really saw a change when they played against Bayern Munich. Usually, this big Bundesliga club is one of the annoying clubs for Barcelona,
It's all good. It was Barca's time to hit back and dominate their European rivals. Both teams are in the knockout phase in the table but I still expect both teams to advance to the round of 16 and who knows if they will face each other again.
Hansi Flick's ability to change Barcelona is truly reliable even though it's only early in the season but he can come in and make the club that solid. He has proven his quality and with his experience he has made Barcelona more productive this season. This makes them much better in the UCL and ready to face various other top clubs in Europe, both from La Liga and other leagues.

Who would have expected Aston Villa to be the club having this kind of result in the Champions League? The supporters of the football club will be very proud of the result that the club has achieved, as they are benefiting from the tactical intelligence of the coach and then the form that some players are on, like Duran. I am not expecting Aston Villa to win the Champions League but I believe that they can achieve an amazing result that is unexpected.
Honestly I did not expect that it would be Aston Villa who became the top standing UCL at the beginning of the season. and moreover, because they play very consistently and solidly. they can optimize all chances to win, especially when playing against teams below them, they can really optimize getting points from them, because I am sure that Aston Villa must realize that it will be quite difficult to overcome the top clubs, so they are that solid to always get 3 points when playing against clubs that they can handle. This proves their seriousness in UCL this time, Rivals with Liverpool who have also never lost in UCL. yes this is very interesting, the greatness of their coach and also the players who have high motivation in this UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 26, 2024, 02:47:51 AM



What is interesting is when I see that positions 1,2 and 3 are all filled by teams from the Premier League, and even now the standings are led by Aston Villa who are actually not much taken into account.
It seems like teams from the Premier League do have an advantage over teams from other leagues, but what caught my attention was Aston Villa who made 3 consecutive wins with a pretty good score without conceding a single goal. And we know that the opponents that Aston Villa faces are not weak opponents, but they are Young Boys, Bayern and Bologna.
Anyway, Unai Emery is doing a great job for his team so that it has not conceded and is temporarily in the top position.
The next match against Club Brugge which Aston Villa can say will win again considering the performance is quite good and I think Aston Villa will qualify not need to enter the playoffs later if they continue to collect many points.
I also think the same about Aston Villa. That is, they will qualify for the next stage without any significant difficulties in the sense that they will not go through the playoffs if they continue to get maximum winning results in the remaining matches of this round. against Club Brugge it doesn't seem like it will be a big problem for Aston Villa either. because AC Milan, which is not in good form, was able to beat Club Brugge. So I think Aston Villa will also be able to do what AC Milan did in the match against Club Brugge.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on October 26, 2024, 02:08:40 PM


What is interesting is when I see that positions 1,2 and 3 are all filled by teams from the Premier League, and even now the standings are led by Aston Villa who are actually not much taken into account.

Yep. The top three are Premier League teams. Liverpool and Villa are joint top but Villa has 1 more goal and the two teams under Villa are miles ahead of them in the PL.
But there is no guarantee that a Premier League club will win the Champions League this season.
And yeah we know that it's only three games, the Champions League has just started. In more games Barcelona and Madrid are coming for that first position because they have made big statements in the last matches.
It is true that there is no guarantee that by placing many teams at the top of the standings they will be able to become champions this season. The journey is still very long and we do not know what will happen next.

Actually, we have seen many situations like this, even when Manchester City became champions, there were many teams from Serie A in the last 8, even though they sent one representative in the final but they failed to become champions.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on October 26, 2024, 07:21:03 PM
It is true that there is no guarantee that by placing many teams at the top of the standings they will be able to become champions this season. The journey is still very long and we do not know what will happen next.

Actually, we have seen many situations like this, even when Manchester City became champions, there were many teams from Serie A in the last 8, even though they sent one representative in the final but they failed to become champions.
Nowadays the dominance winner teams in Champion League between La Liga and Premier League teams, for Serie A have been longer time since Inter Milan become the winner on season 2010 never have any Serie A teams success become the winner although have opportunity when Juventus success leading to the final but defeated by Barcelona on season 2013/14.

Last great another achievement from Inter Milan when success qualifying until final round at season 2022/23 but in the final defeating by Manchester City, in this season only Inter Milan have consistent performance after Milan, Juventus and Atalanta seems difficult will reach the top 8 standings place.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on October 26, 2024, 07:33:15 PM
Last great another achievement from Inter Milan when success qualifying until final round at season 2022/23 but in the final defeating by Manchester City, in this season only Inter Milan have consistent performance after Milan, Juventus and Atalanta seems difficult will reach the top 8 standings place.
There are still 5 more matches in this round and we will see how far they will get points if they continue to lose then they will not qualify or enter the playoffs.
For now it is still difficult to guess which will qualify but obviously the teams from the premier league have a chance to qualify all of them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on October 27, 2024, 03:23:09 PM
It is true that there is no guarantee that by placing many teams at the top of the standings they will be able to become champions this season. The journey is still very long and we do not know what will happen next.

Actually, we have seen many situations like this, even when Manchester City became champions, there were many teams from Serie A in the last 8, even though they sent one representative in the final but they failed to become champions.
Nowadays the dominance winner teams in Champion League between La Liga and Premier League teams, for Serie A have been longer time since Inter Milan become the winner on season 2010 never have any Serie A teams success become the winner although have opportunity when Juventus success leading to the final but defeated by Barcelona on season 2013/14.

Last great another achievement from Inter Milan when success qualifying until final round at season 2022/23 but in the final defeating by Manchester City, in this season only Inter Milan have consistent performance after Milan, Juventus and Atalanta seems difficult will reach the top 8 standings place.

The Clubs from La Liga and the Premier League are currently of slightly higher quality than clubs from other leagues, but that could change at any time.
However, the tight Premier League fixtures or the absence of a winter break means they cannot rest players over the weekend to maintain their fitness for midweek Champions League matches. This is one of the reasons why English top-flight clubs often fail to compete with mid-table European clubs, let alone against top-tier European clubs.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on October 27, 2024, 04:41:28 PM
It is true that there is no guarantee that by placing many teams at the top of the standings they will be able to become champions this season. The journey is still very long and we do not know what will happen next.

Actually, we have seen many situations like this, even when Manchester City became champions, there were many teams from Serie A in the last 8, even though they sent one representative in the final but they failed to become champions.
Nowadays the dominance winner teams in Champion League between La Liga and Premier League teams, for Serie A have been longer time since Inter Milan become the winner on season 2010 never have any Serie A teams success become the winner although have opportunity when Juventus success leading to the final but defeated by Barcelona on season 2013/14.

Last great another achievement from Inter Milan when success qualifying until final round at season 2022/23 but in the final defeating by Manchester City, in this season only Inter Milan have consistent performance after Milan, Juventus and Atalanta seems difficult will reach the top 8 standings place.
Yes, the Champions League dominance is held by teams from La Liga and the English League, in more than a decade there has not been a team from another league other than La Liga and the English League able to become champions here.

This proves that the English League and La Liga have a very strong mentality to compete in the Champions League. I am waiting for who will be the next champion.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on October 28, 2024, 03:59:48 AM
Yes, the Champions League dominance is held by teams from La Liga and the English League, in more than a decade there has not been a team from another league other than La Liga and the English League able to become champions here.

This proves that the English League and La Liga have a very strong mentality to compete in the Champions League. I am waiting for who will be the next champion.
In the last few seasons, it has been clubs from the Premier League and Laliga that have dominated the UCL. but long before that the Bundesliga and Serie A also always dominated the UCL. Even in the 2023 season we will see more Serie A teams going further in the UCL even though in the end Man City won the UCL. But for now it's like clubs from the Premier League will dominate more. Because there are Aston Villa, Liverpool and Man City who are still performing extraordinary to this day. and currently tops the points standings in the UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on October 30, 2024, 03:03:25 PM
Yes, the Champions League dominance is held by teams from La Liga and the English League, in more than a decade there has not been a team from another league other than La Liga and the English League able to become champions here.

This proves that the English League and La Liga have a very strong mentality to compete in the Champions League. I am waiting for who will be the next champion.
In the last few seasons, it has been clubs from the Premier League and Laliga that have dominated the UCL. but long before that the Bundesliga and Serie A also always dominated the UCL. Even in the 2023 season we will see more Serie A teams going further in the UCL even though in the end Man City won the UCL. But for now it's like clubs from the Premier League will dominate more. Because there are Aston Villa, Liverpool and Man City who are still performing extraordinary to this day. and currently tops the points standings in the UCL.
Yes, the 3 teams you mentioned are now residents of the top of the Champions League standings this season, so they have a great chance of qualifying for the next round and we look forward to that.

Here it takes a team with a very strong mentality, because if not then it will make it much more difficult for them to talk a lot in the Champions League, especially when they meet the best teams from each league.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on October 31, 2024, 04:31:44 PM
Real Madrid will host AC Milan in the 4th match of the Champions League this season, this is not an easy match for them or for AC Milan.

Maybe there will be more people who believe that Real Madrid will be able to win this match, but that is not a guarantee. Because they are also in a bad condition lately. Although AC Milan also feels the same way. So maybe this will be a difficult match to predict.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on October 31, 2024, 05:04:03 PM
Maybe there will be more people who believe that Real Madrid will be able to win this match, but that is not a guarantee. Because they are also in a bad condition lately. Although AC Milan also feels the same way. So maybe this will be a difficult match to predict.
Real Madrid will only win the game because AC Milan will not be at their best, not because Real Madrid are really good this season. The problem Real Madrid may face may be an internal crisis between the players. With Vinicius missing out on the Ballon d'Or, it may stir him to want the spotlight more to still make himself eligible for the next award, and the other Real Madrid players will not just fold hands and watch him have his way. Players like Mbappe, Bellingham, and others who have eyes on that price as well may all more become focused on personal glory than a good team record.

AC Milan have been very poor in the Serie A; they should have every reason to want to do well in the Champions League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on October 31, 2024, 05:42:25 PM
Maybe there will be more people who believe that Real Madrid will be able to win this match, but that is not a guarantee. Because they are also in a bad condition lately. Although AC Milan also feels the same way. So maybe this will be a difficult match to predict.
Real Madrid will only win the game because AC Milan will not be at their best, not because Real Madrid are really good this season. The problem Real Madrid may face may be an internal crisis between the players. With Vinicius missing out on the Ballon d'Or, it may stir him to want the spotlight more to still make himself eligible for the next award, and the other Real Madrid players will not just fold hands and watch him have his way. Players like Mbappe, Bellingham, and others who have eyes on that price as well may all more become focused on personal glory than a good team record.

AC Milan have been very poor in the Serie A; they should have every reason to want to do well in the Champions League.

Milan is my club and I hope they will give something good in this match but Madrid is Madrid, Real Madrid is a balanced side and Ancelotti will get them on the right track again.

Vini is the best and nothing will change that fact, when it's his turn to have the Ballon d'Or, he will have it, for now, he just needs to work harder and  he looks ok now after the rant
To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on November 01, 2024, 03:01:40 AM
Real Madrid will host AC Milan in the 4th match of the Champions League this season, this is not an easy match for them or for AC Milan.

Maybe there will be more people who believe that Real Madrid will be able to win this match, but that is not a guarantee. Because they are also in a bad condition lately. Although AC Milan also feels the same way. So maybe this will be a difficult match to predict.
Well, with Real Madrid's current condition, which is sometimes not at its maximum strength, a match that should be easy for Real Madrid also seems to be a match that will be quite difficult for Real Madrid. So this match will indeed be a little more difficult to predict. It's just that I think AC Milan is in worse condition. Meanwhile, Real Madrid is still in good condition, just not as good as expected. so I will still favor Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on November 01, 2024, 09:30:55 AM
In the next nice match to watch in the Champions League we have Milan against Real Madrid
although Real Madrid suffered a huge humiliation by Barcelona, ​​according to bookmakers they have the best chance of winning, with odds at 1.8
Milan still have to understand what they want to do in life, I give it a loser
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on November 01, 2024, 12:14:53 PM
Real Madrid will host AC Milan in the 4th match of the Champions League this season, this is not an easy match for them or for AC Milan.

Maybe there will be more people who believe that Real Madrid will be able to win this match, but that is not a guarantee. Because they are also in a bad condition lately. Although AC Milan also feels the same way. So maybe this will be a difficult match to predict.
Well, with Real Madrid's current condition, which is sometimes not at its maximum strength, a match that should be easy for Real Madrid also seems to be a match that will be quite difficult for Real Madrid. So this match will indeed be a little more difficult to predict. It's just that I think AC Milan is in worse condition. Meanwhile, Real Madrid is still in good condition, just not as good as expected. so I will still favor Real Madrid.
Looking at their statistics this season, Real Madrid is indeed better than AC Milan, that's what they have to take advantage of to win 3 points from AC Milan.

However, they also have to be careful of AC Milan, because AC Milan also has the potential to win 3 points in the match. Each team will definitely look for the weaknesses of the opponents they face. That is a common thing for coaches to do.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on November 01, 2024, 04:04:00 PM
Looking at their statistics this season, Real Madrid is indeed better than AC Milan, that's what they have to take advantage of to win 3 points from AC Milan.

However, they also have to be careful of AC Milan, because AC Milan also has the potential to win 3 points in the match. Each team will definitely look for the weaknesses of the opponents they face. That is a common thing for coaches to do.
Releasing from La Liga match schedule, Real Madrid have advantage after the upcoming match against Valencia in domestic league have been postponed and now focus for facing Milan in Champion League. Got advantage more than one weeks get rest make Madrid most favorable than Milan have to play three matches in one week after defeating by Napoli in this middle week have to face Monza at this weekend.
No doubt for Madrid get secure three home points against Milan and I think get busy schedule match giving huge pressure for Milan keep perform well at Champion League match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on November 01, 2024, 08:55:50 PM
Real Madrid will host AC Milan in the 4th match of the Champions League this season, this is not an easy match for them or for AC Milan.

Maybe there will be more people who believe that Real Madrid will be able to win this match, but that is not a guarantee. Because they are also in a bad condition lately. Although AC Milan also feels the same way. So maybe this will be a difficult match to predict.
Well, with Real Madrid's current condition, which is sometimes not at its maximum strength, a match that should be easy for Real Madrid also seems to be a match that will be quite difficult for Real Madrid. So this match will indeed be a little more difficult to predict. It's just that I think AC Milan is in worse condition. Meanwhile, Real Madrid is still in good condition, just not as good as expected. so I will still favor Real Madrid.
Looking at their statistics this season, Real Madrid is indeed better than AC Milan, that's what they have to take advantage of to win 3 points from AC Milan.

However, they also have to be careful of AC Milan, because AC Milan also has the potential to win 3 points in the match. Each team will definitely look for the weaknesses of the opponents they face. That is a common thing for coaches to do.
Madrid has a better chance of winning Milan on this match, because Real Madrid have players that are more experienced in UCL and can score easily than Milan. Milan needs to hold to their ground and make sure that they don't give Real Madrid too much chance for them to increase their striking force. Milan might try their best to draw the match, and the chance of that happening is very small. I am betting on Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on November 01, 2024, 09:42:00 PM
In the next nice match to watch in the Champions League we have Milan against Real Madrid
although Real Madrid suffered a huge humiliation by Barcelona, ​​according to bookmakers they have the best chance of winning, with odds at 1.8
Milan still have to understand what they want to do in life, I give it a loser
That's the biggest insult Barcelona have done at the Bernabeu. Lol
This is a CL match so it is more important, anyways Milan will not be strong against Real Madrid at home I feel Milan is nothing not only underestimating but seeing the quality of Real Madrid's game now.
Who dares to bet on Milan in his single bet?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on November 02, 2024, 01:24:47 PM
Looking at their statistics this season, Real Madrid is indeed better than AC Milan, that's what they have to take advantage of to win 3 points from AC Milan.

However, they also have to be careful of AC Milan, because AC Milan also has the potential to win 3 points in the match. Each team will definitely look for the weaknesses of the opponents they face. That is a common thing for coaches to do.
Madrid has a better chance of winning Milan on this match, because Real Madrid have players that are more experienced in UCL and can score easily than Milan. Milan needs to hold to their ground and make sure that they don't give Real Madrid too much chance for them to increase their striking force. Milan might try their best to draw the match, and the chance of that happening is very small. I am betting on Real Madrid.
I think I don't agree with what you said about Real Madrid, on the point where they can score goals more easily. Because at the moment they also have problems in putting together attacks. Their midfield hasn't been working well and that has an impact on their front line.

Apart from that, actually their front line has also found the right strategy. Sometimes they can be very sharp and sometimes they struggle.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on November 02, 2024, 02:09:16 PM
Inter Milan vs Arsenal will be one of the big matches. Yes, in this 4th match, 2 big teams from England and Italy will meet.

Currently, they both have collected 7 points from 2 wins and 1 draw, so the result of this match will greatly affect where they will be after finishing the match.

It is not easy for both teams to achieve maximum results, because it is certain that both will appear all out to win the match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on November 02, 2024, 04:32:16 PM
Inter Milan vs Arsenal will be one of the big matches. Yes, in this 4th match, 2 big teams from England and Italy will meet.

Currently, they both have collected 7 points from 2 wins and 1 draw, so the result of this match will greatly affect where they will be after finishing the match.

It is not easy for both teams to achieve maximum results, because it is certain that both will appear all out to win the match.
Actually should be big match the UEFA Champion League match between Inter Milan vs Arsenal but recently the Gunner have bad capital after defeating by Newcastle United in domestic league will give bad perform when facing Inter Milan. The game plan of Arteta not running well yet when defeating by Newcastle United and have loss three points make Arsenal have three consecutives matches not winning yet in domestic league.
Surely inter milan not difficult with three points achievement when facing Arsenal at Champion League matchday 4.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on November 02, 2024, 05:25:38 PM
Inter Milan vs Arsenal will be one of the big matches. Yes, in this 4th match, 2 big teams from England and Italy will meet.

Currently, they both have collected 7 points from 2 wins and 1 draw, so the result of this match will greatly affect where they will be after finishing the match.

It is not easy for both teams to achieve maximum results, because it is certain that both will appear all out to win the match.
Actually should be big match the UEFA Champion League match between Inter Milan vs Arsenal but recently the Gunner have bad capital after defeating by Newcastle United in domestic league will give bad perform when facing Inter Milan. The game plan of Arteta not running well yet when defeating by Newcastle United and have loss three points make Arsenal have three consecutives matches not winning yet in domestic league.
Surely inter milan not difficult with three points achievement when facing Arsenal at Champion League matchday 4.

Yep. Newcastle won at St James' Park and Arsenal only had one shot on target in the whole game. lol
And Arsenal had some key players injured like Odegaard and White, and some unfortunate incidents on the pitch due to red cards. It's not looking good this season.
The league and the Champions League are two parallel things.
If they are doing badly in the league, how can we be sure they will do well in the Champions League? So I agree with you, Inter will win this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Asiska02 on November 02, 2024, 05:33:01 PM
Inter Milan vs Arsenal will be one of the big matches. Yes, in this 4th match, 2 big teams from England and Italy will meet.

Currently, they both have collected 7 points from 2 wins and 1 draw, so the result of this match will greatly affect where they will be after finishing the match.

It is not easy for both teams to achieve maximum results, because it is certain that both will appear all out to win the match.

Champions league will continue with another exciting round on the fourth round of the competition. This season has been full with a lot of tough matches with big teams facing one another that we’ve not seen in a while in the competition from the first round of games. Arsenal against Inter Milan will be a very big match to watch in this fourth round and they’re two big teams from two different top leagues in Europe involved, it’ll be very hard to tell the team that has the more chances to win than the other in this match. Until the match is played and each team put in their best performance we can tell who gets to take the three points in this stage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on November 03, 2024, 02:51:54 PM
Inter Milan vs Arsenal will be one of the big matches. Yes, in this 4th match, 2 big teams from England and Italy will meet.

Currently, they both have collected 7 points from 2 wins and 1 draw, so the result of this match will greatly affect where they will be after finishing the match.

It is not easy for both teams to achieve maximum results, because it is certain that both will appear all out to win the match.
Actually should be big match the UEFA Champion League match between Inter Milan vs Arsenal but recently the Gunner have bad capital after defeating by Newcastle United in domestic league will give bad perform when facing Inter Milan. The game plan of Arteta not running well yet when defeating by Newcastle United and have loss three points make Arsenal have three consecutives matches not winning yet in domestic league.
Surely inter milan not difficult with three points achievement when facing Arsenal at Champion League matchday 4.
Before Inter Milan face Arsenal who received their defeat in the Premier League, they will first face one of the promotion teams this season, Venezia. This should be a match that can be won.

Venezia has only won 2 times and suffered more defeats at the beginning of this season. This is also reinforced by Intr Milan's host status in this match. So if they manage to beat Venezia, then they get good capital before facing Arsenal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on November 04, 2024, 02:26:42 AM
Two matches between two Italian clubs against Laliga and Premier League clubs will take place in this round of matches. Namely the Real Madrid vs AC Milan match and the Inter Milan vs Arsenal match.

Maybe many predict that Real Madrid will beat Milan. And that is quite reasonable considering Milan's inconsistent performance this season. It's just that at UCL we are no strangers to surprises from Italian clubs. So I don't think I would underestimate Milan. Likewise in the Inter Milan vs Arsenal match. I really find it difficult to predict the match. What do you think?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on November 04, 2024, 04:34:31 PM
Two matches between two Italian clubs against Laliga and Premier League clubs will take place in this round of matches. Namely the Real Madrid vs AC Milan match and the Inter Milan vs Arsenal match.

Maybe many predict that Real Madrid will beat Milan. And that is quite reasonable considering Milan's inconsistent performance this season. It's just that at UCL we are no strangers to surprises from Italian clubs. So I don't think I would underestimate Milan. Likewise in the Inter Milan vs Arsenal match. I really find it difficult to predict the match. What do you think?

Real Madrid and Milan are trying hard to improve their positions in the Champions League table.
I love Milan and hope they put in a good performance, if they can hold the home team to a draw, it's a win, but it looks like it's going to be a tough job.
Inter vs Arsenal will be more difficult to predict, Inter is very strong, especially in defense!
Inter have Hakan Calhanoglu back and Francesco Acerbi will also be available on Wednesday, but Arsenal need this win as a turning point.
If Arteta can pull it off, the players will gain a much-needed psychological advantage to get back on track in the EPL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on November 04, 2024, 10:05:03 PM
Inter vs Arsenal will be more difficult to predict, Inter is very strong, especially in defense!
Inter have Hakan Calhanoglu back and Francesco Acerbi will also be available on Wednesday, but Arsenal need this win as a turning point.
If Arteta can pull it off, the players will gain a much-needed psychological advantage to get back on track in the EPL.
Arsenal has to win against Inter, no matter how hard it is. They can't afford to have another loss match in a row after losing in the domestic league against Newcastle. I just hope they break free into Inter defense with a win to boost their morale that they can win the EPL trophy if they can put all their efforts into each of their remaining matches without having unwanted red cards and injuries that are affecting the team's progress in winning matches.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: rby on November 05, 2024, 08:52:14 AM
The UEFA Champions League competition returns today and the biggest game of the day and as well of the match week will be the game between Real Madrid who is the most successful club in the competition vs AC Milan who happens to the second most successful club in the competition. Both teams have been struggling this season if we must be honest but considering how important the competition is to both teams, I expect them to play at their best tonight at the famous Santiago Bernabeu. Real Madrid is the home team so I expect them to get all three points in the game.

What's your take on the game and who do you think will win? Share your opinions

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Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: rby on November 05, 2024, 08:52:54 AM
The UEFA Champions League competition returns today and the biggest game of the day and as well of the match week will be the game between Real Madrid who is the most successful club in the competition vs AC Milan who happens to the second most successful club in the competition. Both teams have been struggling this season if we must be honest but considering how important the competition is to both teams, I expect them to play at their best tonight at the famous Santiago Bernabeu. Real Madrid is the home team so I expect them to get all three points in the game.

What's your take on the game and who do you think will win? Share your opinions
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on November 05, 2024, 09:42:15 AM
Two matches between two Italian clubs against Laliga and Premier League clubs will take place in this round of matches. Namely the Real Madrid vs AC Milan match and the Inter Milan vs Arsenal match.

Maybe many predict that Real Madrid will beat Milan. And that is quite reasonable considering Milan's inconsistent performance this season. It's just that at UCL we are no strangers to surprises from Italian clubs. So I don't think I would underestimate Milan. Likewise in the Inter Milan vs Arsenal match. I really find it difficult to predict the match. What do you think?

Real Madrid and Milan are trying hard to improve their positions in the Champions League table.
I love Milan and hope they put in a good performance, if they can hold the home team to a draw, it's a win, but it looks like it's going to be a tough job.
Inter vs Arsenal will be more difficult to predict, Inter is very strong, especially in defense!
Inter have Hakan Calhanoglu back and Francesco Acerbi will also be available on Wednesday, but Arsenal need this win as a turning point.
If Arteta can pull it off, the players will gain a much-needed psychological advantage to get back on track in the EPL.
Milan is in an unstable condition currently in Serie A. But still they are one of the big teams and strong teams from Serie A that should not be underestimated. But because the opponent is Real Madrid and Real Madrid will also be the host of the match, it will put Milan in quite a difficult condition if they want to win the match.

Well, Inter Milan vs Arsenal will be really difficult to predict. But I think both teams will score.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Yamzakid on November 05, 2024, 11:15:36 AM
So far this season, Lille has been in very good shape, they can be outstanding in that match and defeat Juventus,though, Juventus is also in a strong side but not that good this season, their problem is a lack of attacking, chiesa was Juventus best player last season, but I don't know why scoring is difficult for him this season.

Sturm Graz will play Borussia Dortmund at the stadium signal. Dortmund is the stronger team here because they have experienced players that are fast in attacking, especially Kareem Adeymi, and they can turn most of their opportunities into goals, and are also skilled at defense. They also have the most craziest supporters, so in my opinion, Dortmund is the best team here to have victory.

Inter vs Arsenal will be more difficult to predict, Inter is very strong, especially in defense!
Inter have Hakan Calhanoglu back and Francesco Acerbi will also be available on Wednesday, but Arsenal need this win as a turning point.
If Arteta can pull it off, the players will gain a much-needed psychological advantage to get back on track in the EPL.
Arsenal has to win against Inter, no matter how hard it is. They can't afford to have another loss match in a row after losing in the domestic league against Newcastle. I just hope they break free into Inter defense with a win to boost their morale that they can win the EPL trophy if they can put all their efforts into each of their remaining matches without having unwanted red cards and injuries that are affecting the team's progress in winning matches.

It will be a tough match because Arsenal and Inter are now in fantastic form and to be honest their both managers are tactical, and in my opinion it will be difficult to identify the winner between them. It will be very competitive match.
They only played a few games in their H2H records, but if I had to bet, I would pick Arsenal to win because they have better H2H records than Inter and will work hard to maintain those records.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on November 05, 2024, 11:41:15 AM
Today, Madrid will face Milan on UEFA Champion League matchday 4 and have huge ambition keep securing three points behind Madrid still dropped to 12th standings position awhile with 6 points of two winning matches.
Madrid got advantage after having more than one week taking rest due postponed match in domestic league when facing Valencia and have motivate take three home points. Milan still not o the top perform in Champion League after having one winning result of three matches and their position dropping to 25th standings place only have three points.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on November 05, 2024, 01:22:10 PM
Inter vs Arsenal will be more difficult to predict, Inter is very strong, especially in defense!
Inter have Hakan Calhanoglu back and Francesco Acerbi will also be available on Wednesday, but Arsenal need this win as a turning point.
If Arteta can pull it off, the players will gain a much-needed psychological advantage to get back on track in the EPL.
Arsenal has to win against Inter, no matter how hard it is. They can't afford to have another loss match in a row after losing in the domestic league against Newcastle. I just hope they break free into Inter defense with a win to boost their morale that they can win the EPL trophy if they can put all their efforts into each of their remaining matches without having unwanted red cards and injuries that are affecting the team's progress in winning matches.

I hope so. Teams from Serie A this season have often struggled whenever they've met representatives from the Premier League But Arteta's squad is still limping and in a minor trend, while Inter has been in a positive trend so far and has a full team which is good for the UCL.
However, The finishing touch is not good. They need to be more clinical.
Inter only scored one goal in the last match, from a total of 14 shots (8 on target).
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on November 05, 2024, 01:35:56 PM
Today, Madrid will face Milan on UEFA Champion League matchday 4 and have huge ambition keep securing three points behind Madrid still dropped to 12th standings position awhile with 6 points of two winning matches.
Madrid got advantage after having more than one week taking rest due postponed match in domestic league when facing Valencia and have motivate take three home points. Milan still not o the top perform in Champion League after having one winning result of three matches and their position dropping to 25th standings place only have three points.
AC Milan's condition is also not good in Serie A. So normally we might be able to favor Real Madrid quite confidently. It's just that surprises from Serie A teams sometimes always happen in the UCL. But Madrid is the host this time so Real Madrid should really play more comfortably and be able to win with a pretty good score.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on November 05, 2024, 02:14:29 PM
Today, Madrid will face Milan on UEFA Champion League matchday 4 and have huge ambition keep securing three points behind Madrid still dropped to 12th standings position awhile with 6 points of two winning matches.
Madrid got advantage after having more than one week taking rest due postponed match in domestic league when facing Valencia and have motivate take three home points. Milan still not o the top perform in Champion League after having one winning result of three matches and their position dropping to 25th standings place only have three points.

it will certainly be a very interesting match to watch to understand the state of both Real Madrid and Milan
honestly I think it will be boring, both teams know each other and fear each other, but I hope I'm wrong and see a good match full of lots of goals
We hope for this
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on November 05, 2024, 10:31:17 PM
Well, Inter Milan vs Arsenal will be really difficult to predict. But I think both teams will score.
Milan against Arsenal would be a very difficult game to predict, but I will be able to see the outcome easily more than this Manchester City game against Sporting because I always knew that Manchester City again in this game have a very high chance of losing considering that Sporting's very good Manchester City are currently struggling with injury problems. Gyokores almost on a hattrick to seal the win and his performance in this game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on November 05, 2024, 10:41:50 PM
I was just checking the score while the games are still live

Real Madrid - 1
Milan - 3

Man City - 1
Sporting CP - 3

It seems both Madrid and City are still finding it difficult after losing their previous game in their respective domestic league. I bet many gamblers who thought it would be an easy win are scratching their head right now ;D

On the other hand, Liverpool keeps winning.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on November 05, 2024, 10:58:23 PM
I was just checking the score while the games are still live

Real Madrid - 1
Milan - 3

Man City - 1
Sporting CP - 3

It seems both Madrid and City are still finding it difficult after losing their previous game in their respective domestic league. I bet many gamblers who thought it would be an easy win are scratching their head right now ;D

On the other hand, Liverpool keeps winning.
Wonders shall never end in football. Imagine two favorite clubs to win the league are using their matches tonight. Sporting has made it to four goals already and it is now 4-1 against City. This shows that Amorim will be a good coach for Manchester united and he will make the competition tough for other clubs, if he can win City easily with Sporting. Liverpool were able to score three goals against Leverkusen.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on November 05, 2024, 11:05:34 PM
I was just checking the score while the games are still live
Real Madrid - 1
Milan - 3
Man City - 1
Sporting CP - 3

It seems both Madrid and City are still finding it difficult after losing their previous game in their respective domestic league. I bet many gamblers who thought it would be an easy win are scratching their head right now ;D

On the other hand, Liverpool keeps winning.
Real Madrid has a serious problem, this team seems lost their spirit to win the match. I don't know why Real Madrid turned to be a very weak team now. Honestly, I'm very disappointed with the result today, how can AC Milan defeats them with 3 goals. Since Courtois gets injured, Real Madrid defense looks very poor. I think Lunin deserves to put on transfer list. Meanwhile for Man City, I think Guardiola a bit underestimates Sporting. There are some key players on the bench, including De Bruyne and Kyle Walker. Well, it is surprising that a big team like Man City was conceded 4 goals and Haaland scored 0 goal.

Well. Liverpool always won the matches so far. If Aston villa also wins the match tomorrow, Aston Villa will be unbeaten, too. These 2 EPL teams performed perfectly until now.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on November 05, 2024, 11:06:01 PM
I was just checking the score while the games are still live

Real Madrid - 1
Milan - 3

Man City - 1
Sporting CP - 3

It seems both Madrid and City are still finding it difficult after losing their previous game in their respective domestic league. I bet many gamblers who thought it would be an easy win are scratching their head right now ;D

On the other hand, Liverpool keeps winning.
Matches ended...

And here is the result: what a ..........
Real Madrid 1 vs 3   AC Milan
Sporting      4 vs 1  Man City

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(sorry I actually attached a picture, but it is not visible here)

See the results of the UCL match this time?
This is really surprising to see that the top clubs are completely slaughtered by his opposing team which incidentally is predicted to be overcome well. Especially Man City and also Real Madrid. They are a giant club that has always been linked to always be in the final round of UCL, but so far, their performance this season is quite bad. This is a very embarrassing defeat. Man City, losing successively in various leagues from the opponent. And Real Madrid, the same, was slaughtered pathetic. Really, the arrival of Mbappe and Kroos keeping it looks like a curse for Real Madrid so that their performance was really stumbling this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on November 05, 2024, 11:18:40 PM
We've seen two major surprises today:
Sporting beating Man City 4:1, and the current Champion's League cup holders, Real Madrid, losing at home to AC Milan 3-1. That's Real's 2nd defeat in this league stage and they are now placed 17th and might drop further after tomorrow's round.

Fixtures and odds for tomorrow games:

Club Brugge KV x3.25; Draw x3.60; Aston Villa FC x2.14
FC Shakhtar Donetsk x2.00; Draw x3.66; BSC Young Boys x3.60
FC Bayern München x1.27; Draw x6.50; SL Benfica x9.00
AC Sparta Prague x2.40; Draw x3.30; Stade Brestois 29 x3.00
FC Inter Milan x2.71; Draw x3.14; Arsenal FC x2.75
Feyenoord x1.57; Draw x4.33; FC Salzburg x5.50
Paris Saint-Germain x1.70; Draw x4.00; Atletico Madrid x4.75
Red Star x14.00; Draw x7.50; FC Barcelona x1.14
VfB Stuttgart x2.36; Draw x3.80; Atalanta BC x2.88
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on November 05, 2024, 11:31:26 PM
I was just checking the score while the games are still live

Real Madrid - 1
Milan - 3

Man City - 1
Sporting CP - 3

It seems both Madrid and City are still finding it difficult after losing their previous game in their respective domestic league. I bet many gamblers who thought it would be an easy win are scratching their head right now ;D

On the other hand, Liverpool keeps winning.
Wonders shall never end in football. Imagine two favorite clubs to win the league are using their matches tonight. Sporting has made it to four goals already and it is now 4-1 against City. This shows that Amorim will be a good coach for Manchester united and he will make the competition tough for other clubs, if he can win City easily with Sporting. Liverpool were able to score three goals against Leverkusen.

In my country, when people wants to make fun of you, they tell you that "you will have to learn the hard way", and that's what manchester city and madrid has just experienced. I want to believe that everybody's betting ticket has gone down the drain, and all thanks real madrid and machester city. Things hasn't been easy for madrid since they lost to barce, and city also have suffer a back-to-back loss. Haaland missing a penalty is another topic entirely. It's very clear that Rodri is the star man at manchester city.

And as for Viktor Gyokeres, i literally can't describe what kind of player he his. Scoring an hattrick tonight against a very tough side like City is quite incredible. They've been long term remors that Arsenal is very much interested in him. I think after tonight's game, Arsenal might want to finalize that deal in January, no matter the amount. As stands, Madrid's chance of making it to the round of 16 is getting thinner because they will be facing liverpool next. 
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on November 05, 2024, 11:47:24 PM
I was just checking the score while the games are still live

Real Madrid - 1
Milan - 3

Man City - 1
Sporting CP - 3

It seems both Madrid and City are still finding it difficult after losing their previous game in their respective domestic league. I bet many gamblers who thought it would be an easy win are scratching their head right now ;D

On the other hand, Liverpool keeps winning.
I couldn't believe with my eyes that Manchester City and Real Madrid would have an unexpected disgracing match loss again. It is really hard to believe that people's favorite clubs for the Champions League trophy are the ones losing in this manner, while the ones viewed as small teams are smiling all through because of their good performances that they are winning the big teams. So many match bettors would lose their bets to this match loss Manchester City and Manchester City had. Who could have thought of this kind of loss match that both teams had? This is well unbelievable and unimaginable
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on November 06, 2024, 12:50:58 PM
I couldn't believe with my eyes that Manchester City and Real Madrid would have an unexpected disgracing match loss again. It is really hard to believe that people's favorite clubs for the Champions League trophy are the ones losing in this manner, while the ones viewed as small teams are smiling all through because of their good performances that they are winning the big teams. So many match bettors would lose their bets to this match loss Manchester City and Manchester City had. Who could have thought of this kind of loss match that both teams had? This is well unbelievable and unimaginable
Well, everyone certainly wouldn't have expected that result. Moreover, both of them lost simultaneously in the same round of the match. Real Madrid may not be in the best condition because they still haven't found a good balance after Mbappe's arrival. But Man City is much more surprising when they actually still have the same squad and are in pretty good condition with full strength. Although some of the main players were not played from the start, such as Gundogan and De Bruyne. But still, this is not like the usual Man City.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on November 06, 2024, 01:20:18 PM
I was just checking the score while the games are still live

Real Madrid - 1
Milan - 3

Man City - 1
Sporting CP - 3

It seems both Madrid and City are still finding it difficult after losing their previous game in their respective domestic league. I bet many gamblers who thought it would be an easy win are scratching their head right now ;D

On the other hand, Liverpool keeps winning.
The defeat of these 2 big teams that are very favored is proof that the Champions League is not easy, anything can happen and there are teams that can feel it.

Manchester City's defeat for me is more surprising than Real Madrid, because looking at the level of the two teams that are their opponents, it can be said that Manchester City's opponents are still below the opponents faced by Real Madrid. I am not underestimating Sporting at all, but that is my view.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on November 06, 2024, 04:06:04 PM
Wonders shall never end in football. Imagine two favorite clubs to win the league are using their matches tonight. Sporting has made it to four goals already and it is now 4-1 against City. This shows that Amorim will be a good coach for Manchester united and he will make the competition tough for other clubs, if he can win City easily with Sporting. Liverpool were able to score three goals against Leverkusen.

I Love football... Ruben Amorim's ball makes City look like a small club :)
They only needed 8 passes to get into City's penalty area and score, Also notice how each player didn't touch the ball more than 2 touches. Incredible...
I imagine United will play with this style of football.
Football is a very basic game, those players on the pitch do something how they are told to play, I mean United has the players with the brains to play this style of football, and they will be well-drilled.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on November 06, 2024, 04:28:51 PM
Why did Real Madrid have to lose both times at the Bernabeu? I believed before that Real Madrid would win at home against Milan, but what happened was beyond expectations they had to submit to Milan and this is embarrassing after the defeat to Barcelona before.

I'm sure many here lost their bets, even though it was quite a big bet on Real Madrid. :'(
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on November 06, 2024, 04:36:37 PM
Why did Real Madrid have to lose both times at the Bernabeu? I believed before that Real Madrid would win at home against Milan, but what happened was beyond expectations they had to submit to Milan and this is embarrassing after the defeat to Barcelona before.

I'm sure many here lost their bets, even though it was quite a big bet on Real Madrid. :'(
Well, everyone felt the same disappointment regarding the result of the match. Because it is quite rare for Real Madrid to continue to experience defeat in front of their own supporters. It is clear that currently Real Madrid is really embarrassed in front of its own supporters. And I hope they can get up soon and not continue to fall like now. because this is not like the usual Real Madrid. They are too different now.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Yamzakid on November 06, 2024, 05:11:24 PM
I was just checking the score while the games are still live
Real Madrid - 1
Milan - 3
Man City - 1
Sporting CP - 3

It seems both Madrid and City are still finding it difficult after losing their previous game in their respective domestic league. I bet many gamblers who thought it would be an easy win are scratching their head right now ;D

On the other hand, Liverpool keeps winning.
Real Madrid has a serious problem, this team seems lost their spirit to win the match. I don't know why Real Madrid turned to be a very weak team now. Honestly, I'm very disappointed with the result today, how can AC Milan defeats them with 3 goals. Since Courtois gets injured, Real Madrid defense looks very poor. I think Lunin deserves to put on transfer list. Meanwhile for Man City, I think Guardiola a bit underestimates Sporting. There are some key players on the bench, including De Bruyne and Kyle Walker. Well, it is surprising that a big team like Man City was conceded 4 goals and Haaland scored 0 goal.

Madrid's performance was very poor, and Ac Milan controlled the game throughout, which helped them win. Their defense was excellent, and they didn't give Madrid's attackers any room. Only Vinicius Jr. tried to lead Madrid's attack, and if Ancelotti keeps doing this, he will have an issue with the supporters, which has already begun.
Honestly, Manchester City looks down on sporting. I didn't even watch the game because I thought it is going to be a winning match for Manchester city. I don't have problem with their losing, but the goals they conceded was so embarrassing, and I hope Pep Guardiola will not underestimate any team  again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on November 06, 2024, 05:12:29 PM
Why did Real Madrid have to lose both times at the Bernabeu? I believed before that Real Madrid would win at home against Milan, but what happened was beyond expectations they had to submit to Milan and this is embarrassing after the defeat to Barcelona before.

I'm sure many here lost their bets, even though it was quite a big bet on Real Madrid. :'(
Well, everyone felt the same disappointment regarding the result of the match. Because it is quite rare for Real Madrid to continue to experience defeat in front of their own supporters. It is clear that currently Real Madrid is really embarrassed in front of its own supporters. And I hope they can get up soon and not continue to fall like now. because this is not like the usual Real Madrid. They are too different now.
Expected because they were hit by injuries to so many players including in the defense, but this is too bad that I see now, this defeat clearly silenced the fans at home.
Ancelotti must think of a way to get up again, they have lost a lot of points in the Champions League and LaLiga so they can get up.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on November 06, 2024, 05:56:13 PM
I was just checking the score while the games are still live

Real Madrid - 1
Milan - 3

Man City - 1
Sporting CP - 3

It seems both Madrid and City are still finding it difficult after losing their previous game in their respective domestic league. I bet many gamblers who thought it would be an easy win are scratching their head right now ;D

On the other hand, Liverpool keeps winning.

There are two teams that are going down this period
Real Madrid and Arsenal
they really had a change of pace, in a scary negative way, I was also shocked to see what happened to them

I'm shocked that Real Madrid for example lost to Milan, by 3 goals!
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: smartaction on November 06, 2024, 06:27:24 PM
Today's match of UEFA Champions League, Bologna vs Monaco, two teams entered the field. Enjoyed a tough fight between the two teams before the half time because before the half time the players of both teams tried hard to score. But after the half time, Monaco team player T. Kehrer scored the 1st in 86 minutes.  scored a goal and then there were no more goals in this match. Because of this, Monaco team won the match by 1 goal. If we look at the points table of the two teams, Monaco team is much ahead of Bologna team. Monaco team is much stronger than Bologna team. The previous match  The Monaco team performed very well.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on November 06, 2024, 10:04:50 PM
I'm shocked that Real Madrid for example lost to Milan, by 3 goals!
I'm not exactly shocked by it, because Real Madrid are experiencing a lot of defensive problems, so they could easily concede goals. AC Milan is still a very good team to consider, even though their performance in the Italian league this season has not been as expected of them. This season hasn't  brought joy to supporters of Real Madrid; they will be very disappointed and angry because failure is not something that they are used to.

Arsenal losing by a goal to Inter Milan. A last minute penalty kick from Inter Milan after a handball in the penalty box. Arsenal will struggle in the second half because Inter Milan's defense is very disciplined. I will like to see Martin Ødegaard. If he comes back and gets an assist or a goal, it is a banger of a way to announce your return.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on November 06, 2024, 10:20:02 PM
There are two teams that are going down this period
Real Madrid and Arsenal
they really had a change of pace, in a scary negative way, I was also shocked to see what happened to them

I'm shocked that Real Madrid for example lost to Milan, by 3 goals!
Actually Man City also experienced it, they even lost in the last 3 matches they played in several different leagues, even though their opponents were usually able to overcome them well before. And yes, what happened to Real Madrid was the same, their performance really declined since Kroos left, as the masterplan of the match. and unfortunately, this coincided with the presence of Mbappe at the club, this was really unexpected when many people thought that Real Madrid would be that overpowering, but it turned out that they were confused and could not be as optimal as the previous season.

Anyway, now, champions League are still several clubs playing.
The most interesting is":
PSG 1 vs 1 Atletico Madrid
Inter 1 vs 0 Arsenal
Bayern Munich 0 vs 0 Benfica


Yes, it's still in the half-time minutes, so there is still a possibility of another score change in the second half.

Oh yeah, there's no need to doubt Barcelona anymore, they are even slaughtering FK Crvena zvezda with a temporary core of 1 - 4
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on November 06, 2024, 11:07:18 PM
A day full of surprises. Out of the 9 today's games, 5 have been won by the underdogs (two games are still going with few minutes to go but the favourites are leading).

To me, the biggest surprise was Feyenoord losing to Salzburg in Rotterdam. The Dutch team hasn't been playing super-impressive football lately, but I thought it would be easy 3 points, but things just didn't work as planned. Nadje's red card in the 79th minute didn't help either.

Another surprise was Atletico's 2-1 win over PSG in Paris despite PSG being very dominant and creating many more chances. Atletico proved they are no pushovers and that their success in reaching the quarterfinals last year was no coincidence.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on November 06, 2024, 11:38:25 PM
All UCL games for today has been concluded. Some disappointing results while others were as i expected. Villa losing to club brugge was what i never sawing coming because they've had a perfect record since first game week. Barce's game was as i expected. They continued with their fine performance as they scored 5goals. The two star men (Raphina and Lewandoski) continue with a fine performance tonight. And as for the inter game, well knew they were going to win because arsenal has not being the arsenal we all use to know this season. Though arsenal had more of the ball possession, but inter came to the party to get all 3 points. Brilliant performance from Atlanta and the nigerian sensation(Lookman).
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Yamzakid on November 07, 2024, 11:22:55 AM
Inter Milan deserves congratulations because it is uncommon for teams to withstand the kind of pressure they received from Arsenal yesterday. This was the toughest game I have seen this season, Arsenal applied pressure and they played their best to have the victory, but luck was not on their side. Both teams put on fantastic performances.

Barcelona scored 5-2 over Red Star, with R.Lewandowski scoring the most goals in the match. He scored a brace but was not honored Man of the match due to excellent performance from his teammate J.Kounde, who did great assists that were converted into goals. He genuinely deserves the title.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on November 07, 2024, 11:35:30 AM
Inter Milan deserves congratulations because it is uncommon for teams to withstand the kind of pressure they received from Arsenal yesterday. This was the toughest game I have seen this season, Arsenal applied pressure and they played their best to have the victory, but luck was not on their side. Both teams put on fantastic performances.

Barcelona scored 5-2 over Red Star, with R.Lewandowski scoring the most goals in the match. He scored a brace but was not honored Man of the match due to excellent performance from his teammate J.Kounde, who did great assists that were converted into goals. He genuinely deserves the title.

I have to say that Arsenal didn't play badly to have the problems thye have
clearly i see a lot of nervousness in the players, nervousness combined with malice means fouls, and dangerous fouls
Inter did well to take advantage of it and make a slew of victories this round
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on November 07, 2024, 12:37:25 PM
Inter Milan deserves congratulations because it is uncommon for teams to withstand the kind of pressure they received from Arsenal yesterday. This was the toughest game I have seen this season, Arsenal applied pressure and they played their best to have the victory, but luck was not on their side. Both teams put on fantastic performances.

Barcelona scored 5-2 over Red Star, with R.Lewandowski scoring the most goals in the match. He scored a brace but was not honored Man of the match due to excellent performance from his teammate J.Kounde, who did great assists that were converted into goals. He genuinely deserves the title.

I have to say that Arsenal didn't play badly to have the problems thye have
clearly i see a lot of nervousness in the players, nervousness combined with malice means fouls, and dangerous fouls
Inter did well to take advantage of it and make a slew of victories this round
Actually, if we look at the course of the match, Arsenal actually deserves to get points in this match. However, football is not only about playing better than the opponent, but also what is seen from the final score.

I can't say whether Arsenal was unlucky in this match, because if you look at their game, they weren't bad either. Even in terms of opportunities, they were also able to create more opportunities than Inter Milan.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on November 07, 2024, 09:35:50 PM
Another surprise was Atletico's 2-1 win over PSG in Paris despite PSG being very dominant and creating many more chances. Atletico proved they are no pushovers and that their success in reaching the quarterfinals last year was no coincidence.
PSG is a club that has never been favored in Champion League matches so anyone who bets on this team will be a little risky to take.
We can see playing at home with a higher dominance of the game PSG than the opponent but they still lose, what hurts this is at the end of the match they are careless and cannot maintain at least a draw.
For me it's clear Enrique can't bring better for PSG.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on November 07, 2024, 11:42:32 PM
PSG is a club that has never been favored in Champion League matches so anyone who bets on this team will be a little risky to take.
We can see playing at home with a higher dominance of the game PSG than the opponent but they still lose, what hurts this is at the end of the match they are careless and cannot maintain at least a draw.
For me it's clear Enrique can't bring better for PSG.
Even since there were many star players in PSG like Mbappe, Messi, and also Neymar at that time, they couldn't really give a significant effect in the UCL match. and finally again couldn't reach the UCL trophy. so this season, even without Mbappe, it's even more impossible. and PSG's defeat to Atletico Madrid was also a pretty ridiculous defeat because in fact PSG was very dominant, only in injury time, their defense seemed to weaken and maybe because it was considered almost finished, meaning PSG wasn't too focused. so it was actually affected by the winning goal from Atletico Madrid. For now, several top clubs are also experiencing a decline in performance such as Man City and also Real Madrid who are always rumored to be the winners of the UCL from season to season
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on November 08, 2024, 10:03:21 PM
PSG is a club that has never been favored in Champion League matches so anyone who bets on this team will be a little risky to take.
We can see playing at home with a higher dominance of the game PSG than the opponent but they still lose, what hurts this is at the end of the match they are careless and cannot maintain at least a draw.
For me it's clear Enrique can't bring better for PSG.
Even since there were many star players in PSG like Mbappe, Messi, and also Neymar at that time, they couldn't really give a significant effect in the UCL match. and finally again couldn't reach the UCL trophy. so this season, even without Mbappe, it's even more impossible. and PSG's defeat to Atletico Madrid was also a pretty ridiculous defeat because in fact PSG was very dominant, only in injury time, their defense seemed to weaken and maybe because it was considered almost finished, meaning PSG wasn't too focused. so it was actually affected by the winning goal from Atletico Madrid. For now, several top clubs are also experiencing a decline in performance such as Man City and also Real Madrid who are always rumored to be the winners of the UCL from season to season
Even though PSG owners have poured a lot of money to be able to get the UCL trophy but this is still difficult, and indeed by declaring Neymar and Messi who they have high salaries it does not guarantee anything, they lose.
PSG can only win the domestic league, while to win the UCL trophy is still difficult to do some say that PSG management is still not good including the coach.
I don't know about that, which is clear seeing yesterday's defeat is ridiculous.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on November 09, 2024, 06:45:49 PM
Liverpool is still the toughest team until the 4th match, they are the only team that can collect perfect points from all the matches they have played.

However, they still can't be calm even though they are in the top position in the standings, because if they want to go to the last 16 without going through the play-off round they still have to collect a few more points. With their current performance, it seems like they will be able to do it all.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on November 09, 2024, 11:26:37 PM
Even since there were many star players in PSG like Mbappe, Messi, and also Neymar at that time, they couldn't really give a significant effect in the UCL match. and finally again couldn't reach the UCL trophy. so this season, even without Mbappe, it's even more impossible. and PSG's defeat to Atletico Madrid was also a pretty ridiculous defeat because in fact PSG was very dominant, only in injury time, their defense seemed to weaken and maybe because it was considered almost finished, meaning PSG wasn't too focused. so it was actually affected by the winning goal from Atletico Madrid. For now, several top clubs are also experiencing a decline in performance such as Man City and also Real Madrid who are always rumored to be the winners of the UCL from season to season
Even though PSG owners have poured a lot of money to be able to get the UCL trophy but this is still difficult, and indeed by declaring Neymar and Messi who they have high salaries it does not guarantee anything, they lose.
PSG can only win the domestic league, while to win the UCL trophy is still difficult to do some say that PSG management is still not good including the coach.
I don't know about that, which is clear seeing yesterday's defeat is ridiculous.
One thing for sure is that PSG is always strong in the domestic league, but when entering the champions match, they are really weak. Their mental spirit is not that good. That's why, PSG often can't be that optimal in the match. And especially this season in the UCL, it's really bad, PSG has only won 1x. And yesterday's defeat, it was really disappointing.

And for the next match in the UCL, PSG will face Bayern Munich, and this will definitely be very tight again. Both have new elements, which makes the club a hot topic of conversation too. Bayern Munich with its new coach, Kompany. and PSG with its new formation, without Mbappe. That's why it will be exciting, we'll see how each club can handle it all and can win 3 points to boost their position, without losing or sharing points, this will be a tight match, it should be, unless PSG slumps again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: joniboini on November 10, 2024, 03:45:31 AM
However, they still can't be calm even though they are in the top position in the standings, because if they want to go to the last 16 without going through the play-off round they still have to collect a few more points. With their current performance, it seems like they will be able to do it all.
Their next games are against Real Madrid, Girona, PSV, and LOSC Lille afaik. I think only the Madrid game will give them a hard test, other than that I can see them winning at least two more. I thought Girona would surprise us, but they seem to struggle domestically and in the UCL.

And especially this season in the UCL, it's really bad, PSG has only won 1x. And yesterday's defeat, it was really disappointing.
To be fair I do think they got a little bit unlucky. They have many chances to score but Atleti's defense is quite solid judging from the stats. I mean having 1.92 xG is nothing to scoff at, although this number doesn't matter since they failed to score goals with 9 shots on target. CMIIW.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on November 10, 2024, 09:24:30 AM
And especially this season in the UCL, it's really bad, PSG has only won 1x. And yesterday's defeat, it was really disappointing.
To be fair I do think they got a little bit unlucky. They have many chances to score but Atleti's defense is quite solid judging from the stats. I mean having 1.92 xG is nothing to scoff at, although this number doesn't matter since they failed to score goals with 9 shots on target. CMIIW.

Luck is part of football but fans want results, they want to change.
PSG bossed that game from start to finish but why did they force Dembele to be the focus point of the entire attack?
Mbappe leaves, causing problems for PSG. Meanwhile, his presence causes problems in Madrid. lol
Enrique must look for another striker in the January transfer window. IMO
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on November 10, 2024, 02:41:15 PM
However, they still can't be calm even though they are in the top position in the standings, because if they want to go to the last 16 without going through the play-off round they still have to collect a few more points. With their current performance, it seems like they will be able to do it all.
Their next games are against Real Madrid, Girona, PSV, and LOSC Lille afaik. I think only the Madrid game will give them a hard test, other than that I can see them winning at least two more. I thought Girona would surprise us, but they seem to struggle domestically and in the UCL.

Yes, the meeting with Real Madrid will be their toughest match in the remaining matches. But that doesn't mean the other matches are easy, it's just that in terms of the level of the opponent, Real Madrid is the hardest.

However, Real Madrid is also in a bad condition, so that could be a momentum for them to be able to get 3 full points. It just depends on their own performance in the 5th match later.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on November 10, 2024, 07:43:43 PM
Yes, the meeting with Real Madrid will be their toughest match in the remaining matches. But that doesn't mean the other matches are easy, it's just that in terms of the level of the opponent, Real Madrid is the hardest.

However, Real Madrid is also in a bad condition, so that could be a momentum for them to be able to get 3 full points. It just depends on their own performance in the 5th match later.
The matchday 5, Madrid have very difficult opponent team facing Liverpool who lead the first standing position in Champion league and won 4 of 4 matches. Madrid loss many points in Champion League after loss 2 of 4 matches and their position drop drastically out from the top eight place.
Have confidence perform after winning in domestic league, Madrid must secure all three points at UEFA Champion League matches left if won't loss the knock out qualify stage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on November 11, 2024, 01:46:45 AM
The matchday 5, Madrid have very difficult opponent team facing Liverpool who lead the first standing position in Champion league and won 4 of 4 matches. Madrid loss many points in Champion League after loss 2 of 4 matches and their position drop drastically out from the top eight place.
Have confidence perform after winning in domestic league, Madrid must secure all three points at UEFA Champion League matches left if won't loss the knock out qualify stage.
Real Madrid cannot afford to lose again because currently Real Madrid is in a quite critical position because it is ranked 19th. If Real Madrid loses again, it is possible that Real Madrid will be eliminated from the play-off zone. But the opponents that Real Madrid will face are quite tough. Because Liverpool is still the team that looks the strongest in the UCL so far. So yeah I think it will be really difficult for Real Madrid. Meanwhile, Liverpool seems to remain calm. Because Liverpool have never lost until now in the UCL. So one defeat will not be a problem for them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on November 11, 2024, 03:50:25 PM
The matchday 5, Madrid have very difficult opponent team facing Liverpool who lead the first standing position in Champion league and won 4 of 4 matches. Madrid loss many points in Champion League after loss 2 of 4 matches and their position drop drastically out from the top eight place.
Have confidence perform after winning in domestic league, Madrid must secure all three points at UEFA Champion League matches left if won't loss the knock out qualify stage.
Real Madrid cannot afford to lose again because currently Real Madrid is in a quite critical position because it is ranked 19th. If Real Madrid loses again, it is possible that Real Madrid will be eliminated from the play-off zone. But the opponents that Real Madrid will face are quite tough. Because Liverpool is still the team that looks the strongest in the UCL so far. So yeah I think it will be really difficult for Real Madrid. Meanwhile, Liverpool seems to remain calm. Because Liverpool have never lost until now in the UCL. So one defeat will not be a problem for them.

The status as a favorite in the 2024/2025 Champions League seems to have made Madrid players complacent, Real Madrid battered in the Spanish League and the Champions League.
Real Madrid is currently in a difficult situation but Real Madrid is one of the best clubs in the world, they must continue to fight to get out of this slump and difficult situation. They must not give up.
And Liverpool will be a real test. We can see how hard the Madrid players are trying to compete in the Champions League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on November 13, 2024, 06:02:07 PM
The matchday 5, Madrid have very difficult opponent team facing Liverpool who lead the first standing position in Champion league and won 4 of 4 matches. Madrid loss many points in Champion League after loss 2 of 4 matches and their position drop drastically out from the top eight place.
Have confidence perform after winning in domestic league, Madrid must secure all three points at UEFA Champion League matches left if won't loss the knock out qualify stage.
It's not an easy task for Real Madrid to beat a team that is still unbeaten in the Champions League, and they also look very good, of course it comes from great confidence after they were able to display a good game.

For Liverpool, it will be the same, this will be a difficult match for them, because they will face Real Madrid who, although not in good shape, are still Real Madrid who cannot be underestimated.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on November 13, 2024, 06:57:56 PM
The matchday 5, Madrid have very difficult opponent team facing Liverpool who lead the first standing position in Champion league and won 4 of 4 matches. Madrid loss many points in Champion League after loss 2 of 4 matches and their position drop drastically out from the top eight place.
Have confidence perform after winning in domestic league, Madrid must secure all three points at UEFA Champion League matches left if won't loss the knock out qualify stage.
It's not an easy task for Real Madrid to beat a team that is still unbeaten in the Champions League, and they also look very good, of course it comes from great confidence after they were able to display a good game.

For Liverpool, it will be the same, this will be a difficult match for them, because they will face Real Madrid who, although not in good shape, are still Real Madrid who cannot be underestimated.
Liverpool has nothing to lose if the win the match or been defeated. Perhaps, it will be a very interesting match to watch and Liverpool would prefer to win Madrid for record sake. On the other hand Real Madrid needs this win badly to put back a smile on their face, otherwise, their chance of qualifying to tje next round is very slim. I am confused on who to bet on.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on November 13, 2024, 09:08:16 PM
Liverpool has nothing to lose if the win the match or been defeated. Perhaps, it will be a very interesting match to watch and Liverpool would prefer to win Madrid for record sake. On the other hand Real Madrid needs this win badly to put back a smile on their face, otherwise, their chance of qualifying to tje next round is very slim. I am confused on who to bet on.

Personally, i will be risking it all for Liverpool considering how good they've been in both the English premier and the UEFA Champions league. Real madrid on the other hand hasn't been too good in the champions league, as they've gotten only 6 points out of 12. They lost another key man to injury in their last game, and from the look of things, it might be a massive problem if they fail to find a player that can play that same position. I think liverpool will be at home, which is already another advantage to their path. Madrid might just find this year's UCL very difficult to compete in. But, you should go with a team you believe in, because stats sometimes might be wrong.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Chilwell on November 14, 2024, 07:21:35 PM
UEFA issues statement on suspended referee David Coote after new video of alleged cocaine use at Euro 2024 emerges

WHAT HAPPENED?
The PGMOL suspended Premier League referee Coote earlier this week after a video surfaced showing him calling former Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp a 'German c**t'. The 42-year-old is now facing a separate probe as another leaked video has allegedly shown the referee snorting what appears to be cocaine during Euro 2024.

THE BIGGER PICTURE
The video appears to show Coote ingesting a 'white powder' from a rolled-up United States bank note during the European Championship in Germany earlier this year. The Premier League referee had been working as a video review specialist at the tournament. UEFA has now revealed that they have launched an investigation into Coote and confirmed the appointment of an Ethics and Disciplinary Inspector to assess whether Coote has breached the Disciplinary Regulations.

WHAT UEFA'S STATEMENT READ
In a statement made on Thursday afternoon, the UEFA said: “A UEFA ethics and disciplinary inspector has been appointed to evaluate a potential violation of the UEFA disciplinary regulations by the referee, Mr. David Coote”.

Source link: https://www.goal.com/en-ng/lists/uefa-statement-suspended-referee-david-coote-new-video-alleged-cocaine-use-euro-2024/blt27469970cdeaffcb#csceea8e45e4ab816d
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on November 14, 2024, 11:41:38 PM
Looks like the bookies are unphased by Man City's recent 4 losses streak and still see them as a favourite for raising the cup.
As of today, the odds for the outright winner (per duelbits) are as follows:

Man City x4.50
Real Madrid x5.60
Barcelona x6.60
Liverpool x7.00
Bayern München x10.00
Arsenal x10.00
Inter x19.00
Bayer Leverkusen x29.00
Paris Saint-Germain x40.00
Aston Villa x40.00
Atalanta x40.00
Sporting x40.00
Borussia Dortmund x40.00
Juventus x40.00
Atletico Madrid x50.00
AC Milan x70.00
Monaco x80.00
Lille x100.00
Benfica x120.00
PSV x150.00
Brest x200.00
Celtic x240.00
Stuttgart x240.00
Feyenoord x250.00
RB Leipzig x300.00
Club Brugge x350.00
FC Shakhtar Donetsk x500.00
Girona x700.00
Bologna x700.00
Sparta Prague x800.00
Dinamo Zagreb x800.00
Salzburg x800.00
Young Boys x2500.00
Sturm Graz x2500.00
Red Star x4000.00
Slovan Bratislava x4000.00

Do you see any dark horse with massive odds that could actually win the whole thing?
Dinamo Zagreb is x800 and are currently placed 16th, so above teams like Bayern, Real Madrid or Milan. It could be worth putting $1 bet on them  ;D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on November 15, 2024, 10:31:44 AM
Looks like the bookies are unphased by Man City's recent 4 losses streak and still see them as a favourite for raising the cup.
As of today, the odds for the outright winner (per duelbits) are as follows:

Man City x4.50
..

The odds for the last ones make me laugh, x4000 :) it would be funny
when Leichester won the Premier League it was priced at 5000:1 think about that
very funny

In any case, I have never made a bet like this, that is, betting on who will win the Champions League, have you ever done it?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on November 15, 2024, 01:47:52 PM
Liverpool has nothing to lose if the win the match or been defeated. Perhaps, it will be a very interesting match to watch and Liverpool would prefer to win Madrid for record sake. On the other hand Real Madrid needs this win badly to put back a smile on their face, otherwise, their chance of qualifying to tje next round is very slim. I am confused on who to bet on.

Personally, i will be risking it all for Liverpool considering how good they've been in both the English premier and the UEFA Champions league. Real madrid on the other hand hasn't been too good in the champions league, as they've gotten only 6 points out of 12. They lost another key man to injury in their last game, and from the look of things, it might be a massive problem if they fail to find a player that can play that same position. I think liverpool will be at home, which is already another advantage to their path. Madrid might just find this year's UCL very difficult to compete in. But, you should go with a team you believe in, because stats sometimes might be wrong.
Maybe if Real Madrid played with its main squad in full and with maximum strength, maybe I would bet on Real Madrid. But because currently Real Madrid is unstable, especially in the back line due to the number of their players who are still injured. So that means I probably won't like to favorite them. And Liverpool seems to have a better chance.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pieppiep on November 15, 2024, 02:15:21 PM
Liverpool has nothing to lose if the win the match or been defeated. Perhaps, it will be a very interesting match to watch and Liverpool would prefer to win Madrid for record sake. On the other hand Real Madrid needs this win badly to put back a smile on their face, otherwise, their chance of qualifying to tje next round is very slim. I am confused on who to bet on.

Personally, i will be risking it all for Liverpool considering how good they've been in both the English premier and the UEFA Champions league. Real madrid on the other hand hasn't been too good in the champions league, as they've gotten only 6 points out of 12. They lost another key man to injury in their last game, and from the look of things, it might be a massive problem if they fail to find a player that can play that same position. I think liverpool will be at home, which is already another advantage to their path. Madrid might just find this year's UCL very difficult to compete in. But, you should go with a team you believe in, because stats sometimes might be wrong.
Maybe if Real Madrid played with its main squad in full and with maximum strength, maybe I would bet on Real Madrid. But because currently Real Madrid is unstable, especially in the back line due to the number of their players who are still injured. So that means I probably won't like to favorite them. And Liverpool seems to have a better chance.
This is quite understandable now that several key players are missing in Real Madrid’s back line, yet we are still reluctant to give them our full support. Team stability is usually an element of it and when that is shaken in anyway then their opportunities of producing their utmost are most definitely impeded. Liverpool who seems to be in better prepared form gives us more faith to support them. To be more confident about the actions we take in tackling situations like this it is important to assess situations like this by checking on the conditions of the team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on November 15, 2024, 02:23:17 PM
Maybe if Real Madrid played with its main squad in full and with maximum strength, maybe I would bet on Real Madrid. But because currently Real Madrid is unstable, especially in the back line due to the number of their players who are still injured. So that means I probably won't like to favorite them. And Liverpool seems to have a better chance.
This is quite understandable now that several key players are missing in Real Madrid’s back line, yet we are still reluctant to give them our full support. Team stability is usually an element of it and when that is shaken in anyway then their opportunities of producing their utmost are most definitely impeded. Liverpool who seems to be in better prepared form gives us more faith to support them. To be more confident about the actions we take in tackling situations like this it is important to assess situations like this by checking on the conditions of the team.
The absence of several key players owned by Real Madrid has had a big impact. Even their defense could be said to have experienced a drastic decline. This proves that so far Real Madrid has relied too much on their main players and not made thorough preparations for their second tier players. And yes it is very risky to bet on Real Madrid at the moment. So betting on Liverpool is much better.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on November 15, 2024, 05:29:23 PM
Bayern Munich vs Paris Saint Germain will be one of the matches that will be played in the 5th match of the Champions League this season. Of course this will be an interesting match from both teams that have the status of being big teams from each league.

But every time I see Paris Saint Germain in the Champions League, I always doubt them. Well, in this match, Bayern Munich will be more favored than them, it is quite difficult to steal a victory for Paris Saint Germain.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: joniboini on November 17, 2024, 06:13:08 AM
But every time I see Paris Saint Germain in the Champions League, I always doubt them. Well, in this match, Bayern Munich will be more favored than them, it is quite difficult to steal a victory for Paris Saint Germain.
That's not surprising. I think most people also think that way. They underachieved in the UCL so many times, even when they had Mbappe and other star players. Not to mention they failed to find a suitable coach to manage the dressing room and the fans. I think people also say the same thing about City before they won the UCL, at least that's what I heard in my circle.

This proves that so far Real Madrid has relied too much on their main players and not made thorough preparations for their second tier players.
Is there a team that managed to play their bench players without a significant impact on their results? Even City is struggling without Rodri as of now.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on November 17, 2024, 02:09:10 PM
But every time I see Paris Saint Germain in the Champions League, I always doubt them. Well, in this match, Bayern Munich will be more favored than them, it is quite difficult to steal a victory for Paris Saint Germain.
That's not surprising. I think most people also think that way. They underachieved in the UCL so many times, even when they had Mbappe and other star players. Not to mention they failed to find a suitable coach to manage the dressing room and the fans. I think people also say the same thing about City before they won the UCL, at least that's what I heard in my circle.
Yes, it turns out that there are many people who have the same thoughts as what I think. And that is based on a very basic reason when we look at Paris Saint Germain's performance in the Champions League.

Even now they are also listed as one of the teams that have never won a title in the Champions League, even though they are a giant of Ligue 1. But that alone is not enough to make them achieve something they really want.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on November 19, 2024, 02:00:33 PM
This proves that so far Real Madrid has relied too much on their main players and not made thorough preparations for their second tier players.
Is there a team that managed to play their bench players without a significant impact on their results? Even City is struggling without Rodri as of now.
This season, it seems like there isn't any. But last season Man City managed to do it. At that time De Bruyne had not returned and then Haaland was also injured. And we know that even last season Man City didn't have Gundogan. But Pep managed to play several second tier players whose quality was not much different from the main players. And at that time, one of Man City's second tier players was Alvarez. but currently if Haaland is injured then Man City will have difficulties because Alvarez has moved. But this season everything looks different. Because Man City even failed to maintain consistency when one of their main players was injured. And Real Madrid actually quite often experiences situations where several of their main players are injured. It's just that it's quite rare for their back line to be hit by a storm of injuries. And that's what makes Real Madrid look unprepared.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pieppiep on November 19, 2024, 02:14:53 PM
This proves that so far Real Madrid has relied too much on their main players and not made thorough preparations for their second tier players.
Is there a team that managed to play their bench players without a significant impact on their results? Even City is struggling without Rodri as of now.
This season, it seems like there isn't any. But last season Man City managed to do it. At that time De Bruyne had not returned and then Haaland was also injured. And we know that even last season Man City didn't have Gundogan. But Pep managed to play several second tier players whose quality was not much different from the main players. And at that time, one of Man City's second tier players was Alvarez. but currently if Haaland is injured then Man City will have difficulties because Alvarez has moved. But this season everything looks different. Because Man City even failed to maintain consistency when one of their main players was injured. And Real Madrid actually quite often experiences situations where several of their main players are injured. It's just that it's quite rare for their back line to be hit by a storm of injuries. And that's what makes Real Madrid look unprepared.
In every great team, there is always a period that someone or several important players may get dropped and this is rabbit that challenges the profonndity of the bench and the versatility in the tactics. For teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid this can be seen as part of the nature of the constant evolution of a competition. Thus, it is apparent that backup premiers are highly desirable as well as mandatory to constant team’s performance for the entire campaign. Furthermore, continuity is not achieved by the efficacy of those unique key players, but through the overall organised tactical formation in both offence and defence. Based on this, it is possible to focus on the achievements of this situation – to look for new possibilities in the existing team and move forward.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on November 20, 2024, 07:58:35 PM
This season, it seems like there isn't any. But last season Man City managed to do it. At that time De Bruyne had not returned and then Haaland was also injured. And we know that even last season Man City didn't have Gundogan. But Pep managed to play several second tier players whose quality was not much different from the main players. And at that time, one of Man City's second tier players was Alvarez. but currently if Haaland is injured then Man City will have difficulties because Alvarez has moved. But this season everything looks different. Because Man City even failed to maintain consistency when one of their main players was injured. And Real Madrid actually quite often experiences situations where several of their main players are injured. It's just that it's quite rare for their back line to be hit by a storm of injuries. And that's what makes Real Madrid look unprepared.
In every great team, there is always a period that someone or several important players may get dropped and this is rabbit that challenges the profonndity of the bench and the versatility in the tactics. For teams like Manchester City and Real Madrid this can be seen as part of the nature of the constant evolution of a competition. Thus, it is apparent that backup premiers are highly desirable as well as mandatory to constant team’s performance for the entire campaign. Furthermore, continuity is not achieved by the efficacy of those unique key players, but through the overall organised tactical formation in both offence and defence. Based on this, it is possible to focus on the achievements of this situation – to look for new possibilities in the existing team and move forward.
The readiness of all teams will really be tested throughout the season. Both in terms of core players and reserve players. But if a team is hit by an injury storm in the sense that the number of injured players is too large then it will still be really difficult to deal with. And currently Man City is even having difficulties because too many of their core players are injured. Real Madrid is also the same, only Real Madrid only had several defenders and midfield players injured. The current condition of Man City is much more worrying. I hope they can get through it well.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on November 20, 2024, 10:22:28 PM
The readiness of all teams will really be tested throughout the season. Both in terms of core players and reserve players. But if a team is hit by an injury storm in the sense that the number of injured players is too large then it will still be really difficult to deal with. And currently Man City is even having difficulties because too many of their core players are injured. Real Madrid is also the same, only Real Madrid only had several defenders and midfield players injured. The current condition of Man City is much more worrying. I hope they can get through it well.

I think Manchester city has one problem, and that's the absence of Rodri. So, it's not as if they are currently having too many injuries. Manchester city can of course play without certain players like KDB and Haaland in front, but the absence of Rodri is the beginning of their down fall. And as for Real Madrid, the injury list is definitely a problem. And it's not just a regular injury list, but the injuries of their key players. I'm just waiting to see how Ancelotti will play the next game without his CBs, because it seems only Rudiger is active for the now. Alaba might be fit to return next year.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Yamzakid on November 20, 2024, 11:24:33 PM
Manchester city can of course play without certain players like KDB and Haaland in front, but the absence of Rodri is the beginning of their down fall.

I completely disagree with this. Pep Guardiola won't make this mistake because Haaland and Kelvin Debruyne are the team's pillars, and Debruyne provided the majority of the assists that were turned into goals for Manchester City. Haaland is the player with the most goals, and even though Manchester City has a second striker, I don't think he can perform as well as Haaland. given their poor play right now, If Pep Guardiola makes the mistake of benching KDB and Haaland, fans around the world will insult him because the Manchester City does not have a striker like Haaland and the player that'll create assists like KDB.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on November 21, 2024, 01:08:46 AM
I completely disagree with this. Pep Guardiola won't make this mistake because Haaland and Kelvin Debruyne are the team's pillars, and Debruyne provided the majority of the assists that were turned into goals for Manchester City. Haaland is the player with the most goals, and even though Manchester City has a second striker, I don't think he can perform as well as Haaland. given their poor play right now, If Pep Guardiola makes the mistake of benching KDB and Haaland, fans around the world will insult him because the Manchester City does not have a striker like Haaland and the player that'll create assists like KDB.

Disagreeing to this seems like you started following up with Manchester city since when Haaland joined. You might want to check out some of city's game before the arrival of Haaland. I'm not saying that these players are not important, but I'm just trying to bring out priorities here. Haven't you watched games where Haaland goes missing?. Since the start of the season, what has become of KDB?. Even Gundogan starts ahead of him(though Gundogan isn't even playing at the level compared to before his previous departure).

I will say it again, Manchester city can win games without KDB and Haaland, but same thing won't happen if Rodri is absent. Ooh I see, it seems you are still using last two season's rating to evaluate the current team. It doesn't work that way. No doubt, KDB is very good, but his performance dropped since two seasons ago (maybe due to that long term injury that he had). I believe you know how to use your search engine, so check out the stats and  make an evaluation.

You've to understand that pep needs a consistent player maker in his team. KDB has been doing that for long, but it seems pep has opted to use a winger this time, and that happens to be savinho.

Haaland on the other hand is also very good, but you and I knows what happens when Manchester city plays against a very defensive side. And, also try to evaluate Manchester city 's last four games that they lost, and see who the true pillar is, because I believe both Haaland and KDB where fit.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on November 21, 2024, 02:06:09 PM
The readiness of all teams will really be tested throughout the season. Both in terms of core players and reserve players. But if a team is hit by an injury storm in the sense that the number of injured players is too large then it will still be really difficult to deal with. And currently Man City is even having difficulties because too many of their core players are injured. Real Madrid is also the same, only Real Madrid only had several defenders and midfield players injured. The current condition of Man City is much more worrying. I hope they can get through it well.

I think Manchester city has one problem, and that's the absence of Rodri. So, it's not as if they are currently having too many injuries. Manchester city can of course play without certain players like KDB and Haaland in front, but the absence of Rodri is the beginning of their down fall. And as for Real Madrid, the injury list is definitely a problem. And it's not just a regular injury list, but the injuries of their key players. I'm just waiting to see how Ancelotti will play the next game without his CBs, because it seems only Rudiger is active for the now. Alaba might be fit to return next year.
The absence of a valuable player for a team will be quite noticeable, especially if they do not have a replacement that is quite comparable to the missing player. So this affects their game.

I agree that Rodri's absence creates an open gap for Manchester City, which ultimately makes their game no longer like before. This actually happened when they lost KDB last season, but they were still able to recover quickly.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on November 22, 2024, 09:43:33 AM
Manchester city can of course play without certain players like KDB and Haaland in front, but the absence of Rodri is the beginning of their down fall.

I completely disagree with this. Pep Guardiola won't make this mistake because Haaland and Kelvin Debruyne are the team's pillars, and Debruyne provided the majority of the assists that were turned into goals for Manchester City. Haaland is the player with the most goals, and even though Manchester City has a second striker, I don't think he can perform as well as Haaland. given their poor play right now, If Pep Guardiola makes the mistake of benching KDB and Haaland, fans around the world will insult him because the Manchester City does not have a striker like Haaland and the player that'll create assists like KDB.


it could be that he has to rest them, you shouldn't forget that the players play a lot of games and therefore get tired
Leaving him on the bench to rest is therefore not such a stupid idea
maybe Haaland is tired so he is resting him, but on the bench in case he is needed
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Yamzakid on November 22, 2024, 11:21:44 PM
I completely disagree with this. Pep Guardiola won't make this mistake because Haaland and Kelvin Debruyne are the team's pillars, and Debruyne provided the majority of the assists that were turned into goals for Manchester City. Haaland is the player with the most goals, and even though Manchester City has a second striker, I don't think he can perform as well as Haaland. given their poor play right now, If Pep Guardiola makes the mistake of benching KDB and Haaland, fans around the world will insult him because the Manchester City does not have a striker like Haaland and the player that'll create assists like KDB.

Disagreeing to this seems like you started following up with Manchester city since when Haaland joined. You might want to check out some of city's game before the arrival of Haaland. I'm not saying that these players are not important, but I'm just trying to bring out priorities here. Haven't you watched games where Haaland goes missing?. Since the start of the season, what has become of KDB?. Even Gundogan starts ahead of him(though Gundogan isn't even playing at the level compared to before his previous departure).
It is impossible to compare KDB and Gundugann because, when you look at Debruyne performance in every season, he has more assists than any other Man City player. Also when it comes to scoring goals, since the arrival of KDB no Man City midfielder has ever scored more goals than KDB. I agree with you that there are games where Haaland is missing, but the reason for this is that KDB and Haaland understand each other, and if one of them is not playing, City used to struggle before they win. If you look at their past games this season, you can see that Manchester City used to struggled before they score.
If you look at City's performance at the beginning of the season, they were performing better than they are now. This was due to KDB's presence, because KDB gave Haland the most assists, but since his injury, City has been struggling.

I will say it again, Manchester city can win games without KDB and Haaland, but same thing won't happen if Rodri is absent. Ooh I see, it seems you are still using last two season's rating to evaluate the current team. It doesn't work that way. No doubt, KDB is very good, but his performance dropped since two seasons ago (maybe due to that long term injury that he had). I believe you know how to use your search engine, so check out the stats and  make an evaluation.

What you can tell me is that Rodri is the most active player in Manchester City and is a fantastic defensive midfielder, but he lacks creativity unless he is paired with KDB, that is when they will create more chances. Rodri and other players would not treat the opponent well if KDB and Haaland are not there because City lacks a second striker like Haaland.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on November 23, 2024, 04:22:03 PM
What you can tell me is that Rodri is the most active player in Manchester City and is a fantastic defensive midfielder, but he lacks creativity unless he is paired with KDB, that is when they will create more chances. Rodri and other players would not treat the opponent well if KDB and Haaland are not there because City lacks a second striker like Haaland.
I think completing when De bruyne and Rodry play together how to make Manchester City midfielder get creativity, Rodry have strong with defense but several time success scoring amazing goals from out penalty box. But De Bruyne more creativities players for Manchester City how creating assists and make easily for Haaland scoring goals every match when De Bruyne not absent.
Manchester City must adapt well without Rodry and they have Kovacic or Gundogan are playing well for holding midfielder, right now De Bruyne have return from injury and City need to win in champion league after defeating by Sporting Lisbon as last game week match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on November 24, 2024, 05:54:37 PM
In the Premier League, Liverpool just recorded another win when facing Southampton. The next match is against Real Madrid in the Champions League. This is clearly not easy for them.

I am curious about them, whether they will be able to maintain their winning record in this Champions League, or will they suffer their first defeat. Honestly, it is difficult to predict this match, because both teams that will meet are big teams, although one of them is in a bad situation.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on November 26, 2024, 09:09:47 AM
Don't forget, friends, today UCL is being held again. There will be around 9 matches today. And the match that most interests us all is probably the same match between Bayern and PSG. It will definitely be a fierce match. And I'm curious which team will be your favorite in this match?

Bayern as the host might be the favorite. And I might take that risk.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pieppiep on November 26, 2024, 11:29:49 AM
In the Premier League, Liverpool just recorded another win when facing Southampton. The next match is against Real Madrid in the Champions League. This is clearly not easy for them.

I am curious about them, whether they will be able to maintain their winning record in this Champions League, or will they suffer their first defeat. Honestly, it is difficult to predict this match, because both teams that will meet are big teams, although one of them is in a bad situation.
While Real Madrid presents a big test for a Liverpool team that has impressed in the domestic league, so impressive are they they have the quality and potential to come away with a positive result. A note within a note is every game in the tournament, but I think the team is very decisive, the mentality of winning is decisive, and a strategy is very decisive. We can still see a fierce match because Real Madrid are still a team full of experience and potential. But if Liverpool can offer enough defence, as well as focus, they can remain in the game and make a surprise match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on November 26, 2024, 05:26:48 PM
Don't forget, friends, today UCL is being held again. There will be around 9 matches today. And the match that most interests us all is probably the same match between Bayern and PSG. It will definitely be a fierce match. And I'm curious which team will be your favorite in this match?

Bayern as the host might be the favorite. And I might take that risk.
This is a serious match and it's expected to be explosive as ever because the two teams needs the win so it will be a end to end match both teams have the same rate of winning the game, maybe Bayern Munich will only use the home advantage to apart from that the each of them can win the match.both Bayern Munich and PSG won their last league matches so both of them are coming to this match with confidence and the right mindset so it will be difficult for any of them to win I personally think this match will likely end in a draw
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on November 26, 2024, 07:19:30 PM
Odds for all games for today's round (from DuelBits), except for those 2 games that started early and are already in play:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/11/26/bOrdC.png)

The big question: is anyone brave enough to bet against Man City, who are on a 5-long losing streak and that failed miserably last Saturday, losing at home to Tottenham 4-0?
Feyenoord is not as good as Tottenham, but they are doing OK in the league recently and, on a good day, could defeat teams like Benfica (3-1 away win).
Given Man City's players' and manager's morale might not be very high, it's possible the Dutch team could take advantage of City's recent dip in form and actually left Manchester with 3 points. I wouldn't be betting any serious money on that, but throwing a few bucks just for fun might not be the worst idea.

I hope the City will bounce back and win tonight though.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on November 26, 2024, 10:44:37 PM
Odds for all games for today's round (from DuelBits), except for those 2 games that started early and are already in play:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/11/26/bOrdC.png)

The big question: is anyone brave enough to bet against Man City, who are on a 5-long losing streak and that failed miserably last Saturday, losing at home to Tottenham 4-0?
Feyenoord is not as good as Tottenham, but they are doing OK in the league recently and, on a good day, could defeat teams like Benfica (3-1 away win).
Given Man City's players' and manager's morale might not be very high, it's possible the Dutch team could take advantage of City's recent dip in form and actually left Manchester with 3 points. I wouldn't be betting any serious money on that, but throwing a few bucks just for fun might not be the worst idea.

I hope the City will bounce back and win tonight though.
Manchester City is on the lead as I am typing this post with 3-2 score line. Arsenal is not having it funny with Sporting, because they are winning Sporting 5-1 currently. This was what City couldn't do in their last UCL match. Barcelona is winning their visitors 2-0. Bayern on the other hand is winning PSG with one goal to nothing. Most big teams are winning tonight.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on November 26, 2024, 10:58:06 PM
Odds for all games for today's round (from DuelBits), except for those 2 games that started early and are already in play:

The big question: is anyone brave enough to bet against Man City, who are on a 5-long losing streak and that failed miserably last Saturday, losing at home to Tottenham 4-0?
Feyenoord is not as good as Tottenham, but they are doing OK in the league recently and, on a good day, could defeat teams like Benfica (3-1 away win).
Given Man City's players' and manager's morale might not be very high, it's possible the Dutch team could take advantage of City's recent dip in form and actually left Manchester with 3 points. I wouldn't be betting any serious money on that, but throwing a few bucks just for fun might not be the worst idea.

I hope the City will bounce back and win tonight though.

Am I permitted to say that Manchester city is so f*cked this season?. Just bottled a 3nil game and settled for a draw. I see this as a loss to them and not even a draw. I shouldn't even waste much time talking about them because as it stands, they might not even make it to the round of 16.

As for Arsenal, it's obvious that they are back on track, as they traveled down to Portugal and destroyed the same team that destroyed Manchester City. Brilliant performance from the gunners today and congrats to them. Other teams like Atlanta and Barce also secured all points. Next on is the cracker for tomorrow night.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on November 26, 2024, 11:41:22 PM
Odds for all games for today's round (from DuelBits), except for those 2 games that started early and are already in play:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/11/26/bOrdC.png)

The big question: is anyone brave enough to bet against Man City, who are on a 5-long losing streak and that failed miserably last Saturday, losing at home to Tottenham 4-0?
Feyenoord is not as good as Tottenham, but they are doing OK in the league recently and, on a good day, could defeat teams like Benfica (3-1 away win).
Given Man City's players' and manager's morale might not be very high, it's possible the Dutch team could take advantage of City's recent dip in form and actually left Manchester with 3 points. I wouldn't be betting any serious money on that, but throwing a few bucks just for fun might not be the worst idea.

I hope the City will bounce back and win tonight though.
Manchester City is on the lead as I am typing this post with 3-2 score line. Arsenal is not having it funny with Sporting, because they are winning Sporting 5-1 currently. This was what City couldn't do in their last UCL match. Barcelona is winning their visitors 2-0. Bayern on the other hand is winning PSG with one goal to nothing. Most big teams are winning tonight.
From a 3-2 lead against Feyenoord, Manchester City ended up with a 3-3 draw. It seems that Manchester City is becoming weaker as the weeks go by. Pep Guardiola’s tactics no longer appear to be effective for the current squad. I’m unsure if they can rely on this poor performance to win any trophies this season. For now, I don’t think it’s wise to bet on Manchester City to win any of their matches in the Premier League or the Champions League, as they seem likely to draw or lose.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on November 26, 2024, 11:49:44 PM
From a 3-2 lead against Feyenoord, Manchester City ended up with a 3-3 draw. It seems that Manchester City is becoming weaker as the weeks go by. Pep Guardiola’s tactics no longer appear to be effective for the current squad. I’m unsure if they can rely on this poor performance to win any trophies this season. For now, I don’t think it’s wise to bet on Manchester City to win any of their matches in the Premier League or the Champions League, as they seem likely to draw or lose.
And in the end, Pep Guardiola still couldn't bring Man City back to their best performance. Luckily the result was still a draw, if they lost again, it would be a new history for Pep. and here, it is very clear that Man City's performance has dropped drastically, they were really 3 goals ahead, but it seems that after the 3rd goal, Pep decided too quickly, and in the end they were hit by a counter attack and ended in a draw. Feyenoord was able to score 3 goals in a row to equalize the position that was previously 3-0 behind. this is really impossible to happen usually with Man City, and now, they are really bad at maintaining their best position even though they are far ahead.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on November 27, 2024, 04:33:27 AM
It was very disappointing to see Man City fail to win again. Usually the mentality of Man City players is always strong. But this season they look different and well, in terms of mentality, they seem to lack motivation and it seems like they also panic more easily and lose their cool when the opposing team manages to make a surprise, such as returning a goal. I really don't understand Man City this season. They look very different from Man City last season. Pep Guardiola seems to have lost his ability to revive the team he coaches. The draw result was truly beyond predictions. Because Man City has also been far superior from the start. But the first goal scored by Feyenoord in the 75th minute really changed the situation there. And it has really made Man City lose the solidity of their game. With this, Man City has never won in the last 6 matches. And this clearly indicates that Man City is not doing well.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on November 27, 2024, 12:21:25 PM
It was very disappointing to see Man City fail to win again. Usually the mentality of Man City players is always strong. But this season they look different and well, in terms of mentality, they seem to lack motivation and it seems like they also panic more easily and lose their cool when the opposing team manages to make a surprise, such as returning a goal. I really don't understand Man City this season. They look very different from Man City last season. Pep Guardiola seems to have lost his ability to revive the team he coaches. The draw result was truly beyond predictions. Because Man City has also been far superior from the start. But the first goal scored by Feyenoord in the 75th minute really changed the situation there. And it has really made Man City lose the solidity of their game. With this, Man City has never won in the last 6 matches. And this clearly indicates that Man City is not doing well.
It was  very very disappointing  seeing Manchester city dropping point at home feyernood yesterday at home after going through goals up no body expected it to happen after loosing their last five games everyone expected them to win but allot of people where disappointed especially people who gamble on them to win on their tickets, I think pep has lost the dressing room and their is something fundamentally wrong with the team there's no longer hunger in the players to win matches
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on November 27, 2024, 03:26:09 PM
The long-awaited match will soon be witnessed, yes, it is the meeting between Liverpool and Real Madrid in the 5th match of the Champions League this season.

Liverpool's position has now been shifted by Inter Milan and Barcelona who have already played this week. So to be able to return to the top of the standings, Liverpool must win this match. Actually, a draw is enough for them, but in terms of points it will be the same as Inter Milan and they are only superior in goal productivity.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on November 27, 2024, 03:51:12 PM
The long-awaited match will soon be witnessed, yes, it is the meeting between Liverpool and Real Madrid in the 5th match of the Champions League this season.

Liverpool's position has now been shifted by Inter Milan and Barcelona who have already played this week. So to be able to return to the top of the standings, Liverpool must win this match. Actually, a draw is enough for them, but in terms of points it will be the same as Inter Milan and they are only superior in goal productivity.
This match is going to be exciting and interesting as both teams are in great forms , this match is going to be a block booster to watch as both teams needs the win to  solidify their place in the league table I think this is the right time for Liverpool to get their pound of flesh for their lose in the hands of Madrid in the champions league final some years ago
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on November 27, 2024, 06:09:47 PM
It seems that Manchester City's problems continue. Things looked quite good for the first 70 minutes, but what happened next was a total disaster.

Big win by Bayern, they weren't doing that great in the UCL this season, but an away win against PSG is a powerful statement. PSG has now dropped to a disappointing 26th place in the UCL table, so, as of now, they don't even qualify for play-offs. They might drop even further down after today's round is completed.

The most interesting game tonight has to be Liverpool Vs Real Madrid. Bookies are favouring Liverpool with odds at x1.68, while paying x4.40 for Real. I think that's fair given Liverpool's 100% UCL win rate so far and their great performance in the Premier League. Real have seen better seasons, but they are always dangerous.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on November 27, 2024, 06:23:21 PM
Big win by Bayern, they weren't doing that great in the UCL this season, but an away win against PSG is a powerful statement.
It was not an away win for Bayern Munich as they where the home team at the alienz Arena in Germany is was a good way of coming back from that lose against Barcelona at the last match day this win has helped Bayarn Munich to up higher on the table it will really help them get the needed confidence moving forward going to the next match days
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on November 27, 2024, 08:01:15 PM
It seems that Manchester City's problems continue. Things looked quite good for the first 70 minutes, but what happened next was a total disaster.



Must feel bad to have been so close to winning and then the second they fall off, I don't want to witness a generational collapse.
Pep desperately needs to find form soon or else it's the end for them this season in all competitions.
The City is not looking good at all and I think It was an error on Pep's part, subbing off Ake and Gundo brought this madness, they maintained the pace till they went off.
Unlike Pep to made this change with plenty of time left in the match.
And now City is ranked 15th in the table with 8 points. Meanwhile, Feyenoord with seven points is now ranked 20th.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on November 27, 2024, 09:53:25 PM
Big win by Bayern, they weren't doing that great in the UCL this season, but an away win against PSG is a powerful statement.
It was not an away win for Bayern Munich as they where the home team at the alienz Arena in Germany is was a good way of coming back from that lose against Barcelona at the last match day this win has helped Bayarn Munich to up higher on the table it will really help them get the needed confidence moving forward going to the next match days
Winning at home is pretty good even if it's 1 goal even I predict in this match more than 2 goals.
Bayern Munich is likely to qualify for the next round, they have a neat game so far, it's just that losing to Barcelona is much in doubt.

Now the struggling Real Madrid, seeing the first half game Liverpool had many opportunities Liverpool's pressure was stronger than Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on November 27, 2024, 10:00:53 PM
Now the struggling Real Madrid, seeing the first half game Liverpool had many opportunities Liverpool's pressure was stronger than Madrid.
Liverpool's attack has been far better; Nunez has been sublime and has been a problem to the defense of Real Madrid. Mbappe is playing his favorite position, but with zero impact from his side so far in the first half, even Arda Guller has been wasteful. Mbappe is still not a fit in this club; they must regret buying him. If we see a goal from Real Madrid, I believe it will come from the midfielders because the attackers have not delivered at all.

I have a bet placed on Madrid on Betfury. This odd is too tempting.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/11/27/bqvVG.png)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on November 27, 2024, 10:58:36 PM
Now the struggling Real Madrid, seeing the first half game Liverpool had many opportunities Liverpool's pressure was stronger than Madrid.
Liverpool's attack has been far better; Nunez has been sublime and has been a problem to the defense of Real Madrid. Mbappe is playing his favorite position, but with zero impact from his side so far in the first half, even Arda Guller has been wasteful. Mbappe is still not a fit in this club; they must regret buying him. If we see a goal from Real Madrid, I believe it will come from the midfielders because the attackers have not delivered at all.

I have a bet placed on Madrid on Betfury. This odd is too tempting.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/11/27/bqvVG.png)
You have lost your bet mate, because Liverpool was able to outplay Madrid in the game and scored two goals on a clean sheet. It's was since 2009 that Liverpool have won Madrid last but this season Liverpool broke that record with the opportunity they have since they're in a good form and Madrid is not. I feel for Madrid because their chance of qualifying to the next round is slim.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on November 27, 2024, 11:27:29 PM
Now the struggling Real Madrid, seeing the first half game Liverpool had many opportunities Liverpool's pressure was stronger than Madrid.
Liverpool's attack has been far better; Nunez has been sublime and has been a problem to the defense of Real Madrid. Mbappe is playing his favorite position, but with zero impact from his side so far in the first half, even Arda Guller has been wasteful. Mbappe is still not a fit in this club; they must regret buying him. If we see a goal from Real Madrid, I believe it will come from the midfielders because the attackers have not delivered at all.

I have a bet placed on Madrid on Betfury. This odd is too tempting.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/11/27/bqvVG.png)
You have lost your bet mate, because Liverpool was able to outplay Madrid in the game and scored two goals on a clean sheet. It's was since 2009 that Liverpool have won Madrid last but this season Liverpool broke that record with the opportunity they have since they're in a good form and Madrid is not. I feel for Madrid because their chance of qualifying to the next round is slim.
I think you got it wrong on this one. This 2-0 defeat of Real Madrid by Liverpool, is the first time Liverpool is winning against Real Madrid. Liverpool hasn't won against Real Madrid before, it was only a draw they were able to achieve, the rest were lost matches they had against Real Madrid. You can verify this by checking the head-to-head statistics of both teams.

It’s fantastic to see Liverpool remain unbeaten in their last five Champions League matches, with no draws or losses. It seems that previous champions like Real Madrid and Manchester City, who are known to be strong contenders for the Champions League title, are struggling this season. This suggests that the Champions League title may not be destined for them this time around.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on November 27, 2024, 11:28:03 PM
You have lost your bet mate, because Liverpool was able to outplay Madrid in the game and scored two goals on a clean sheet. It's was since 2009 that Liverpool have won Madrid last but this season Liverpool broke that record with the opportunity they have since they're in a good form and Madrid is not. I feel for Madrid because their chance of qualifying to the next round is slim.
I didn't bet on this match. But even if I did, I think Liverpool would be superior to Real Madrid for this match. And it turned out, Liverpool won against Real Madrid 2-0.
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In addition to Real Madrid's performance not being as sharp as last season, this time, the number of their main players who are injured is quite a lot. Even Vini JR is the same. With the absence of Vini JR, it turns out that Real Madrid's front line is quite weak, they are unable to attack. even possession is also far behind. This is increasingly convincing that Mbappe's presence has not been able to be a solid in the club.

And not only that, Real Madrid's defense is also quite weak, yes because most of their defenders are injured. I actually hope the result is a draw, but seeing the current conditions, it is quite realistic if Real Madrid loses.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on November 27, 2024, 11:48:02 PM
I think you got it wrong on this one. This 2-0 defeat of Real Madrid by Liverpool, is the first time Liverpool is winning against Real Madrid. Liverpool hasn't won against Real Madrid before, it was only a draw they were able to achieve, the rest were lost matches they had against Real Madrid. You can verify this by checking the head-to-head statistics of both teams.
Correct. It is the first time Liverpool won against Real Madrid. However, Liverpool deserves to win the match in this time because they played will full team, meanwhile Real Madrid played without many of key players. But if all Real Madrid main players can play today, I think it will be difficult for Liverpool to win. Sadly for Real Madrid, they only could play with many second tier players.

It seems that previous champions like Real Madrid and Manchester City, who are known to be strong contenders for the Champions League title, are struggling this season. This suggests that the Champions League title may not be destined for them this time around.
Real Madrid and Man City have been declining their performance. Both teams have some problems, they will be difficult to reach the final. I just hope Real Madrid won't be eliminated very early. Real Madrid should reach semi-final at least.  :D

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on November 28, 2024, 12:00:21 AM
Liverpool is unstoppable this season. They are now on a 6-long winning streak (all competitions) and out of 19 games they played this season, they only failed to win 2, one unexpected loss to Nottm Forest and a draw against Arsenal.
Who would have thought they'd be performing that well following the departure of Jurgen Klopp. Hiring Arne Slot was a bit of a risky move, as he had never managed a club outside of the Dutch Eredivisie, but, so far, he's doing an amazing job.

Liverpool leads the UCL table with a perfect score of 15 points. Their next Champions League game is against Girona, who lost 4 out of their 5 UCL games, so I expect another 3 points there.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Asiska02 on November 28, 2024, 01:33:54 AM
You have lost your bet mate, because Liverpool was able to outplay Madrid in the game and scored two goals on a clean sheet. It's was since 2009 that Liverpool have won Madrid last but this season Liverpool broke that record with the opportunity they have since they're in a good form and Madrid is not. I feel for Madrid because their chance of qualifying to the next round is slim.

Real Madrid have just recorded two win, three loss and zero draws in their five games played so far in the champions league competition. They are currently on the 24th position after the champions league round five game has been played successfully. They only have three more games to go from now, I don’t know who their opponents may be to know their chances of qualifying for the next round of the competition. These team always performs wonders in the champions league and even with this their performance, they can still try and qualify for the next round of the competition.

Liverpool really did them dirty today also and outplayed them and won them with two goals to none. I feel very sad for them because of the name given to them as kings of the champions league, they’ve really faced a lot of shame so far this season in the champions league but I know they will not give up on this just so easy yet. Real Madrid are full of wonders, I’m expecting them to show one soon and see how they’ll make it to the next round of the competition soon.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on November 28, 2024, 02:06:13 PM
The long-awaited match will soon be witnessed, yes, it is the meeting between Liverpool and Real Madrid in the 5th match of the Champions League this season.

Liverpool's position has now been shifted by Inter Milan and Barcelona who have already played this week. So to be able to return to the top of the standings, Liverpool must win this match. Actually, a draw is enough for them, but in terms of points it will be the same as Inter Milan and they are only superior in goal productivity.
This match is going to be exciting and interesting as both teams are in great forms , this match is going to be a block booster to watch as both teams needs the win to  solidify their place in the league table I think this is the right time for Liverpool to get their pound of flesh for their lose in the hands of Madrid in the champions league final some years ago
Congratulations to Liverpool who have managed to win the match with a score of 2-0 in this match. This victory returned them to the top of the standings after Inter Milan previously took over.

They played well in the match and managed to create many chances, even though they had a penalty that failed, but they were still able to win. On the other hand, Real Madrid had to swallow a bitter pill for the second time in a row in the Champions League after losing in this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on November 28, 2024, 03:58:32 PM
Real Madrid, which immediately fell in ranking to 24th and is the ranking at the end of the play-off zone after their defeat against Liverpool, is quite sad. This is not like Real Madrid. It's just that we don't know what surprising things Real Madrid will do. because I hope this team can immediately get up and win all the remaining matches. because if not then Real Madrid could even be eliminated from the Play-off Zone too. And it seems that it will be quite difficult for us to believe.

We were all initially looking forward to Mbappe's arrival at Real Madrid, which we hoped would make Real Madrid even sharper in attack. But now what is happening is the opposite. Real Madrid is a team that is not very sharp in attack at the moment. Especially after Vini Jr was injured. Mbappe has not shown the quality he has seen so far at PSG and in his own national team. But at Real Madrid we haven't seen that.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on November 28, 2024, 04:41:48 PM
Liverpool is unstoppable this season. They are now on a 6-long winning streak (all competitions) and out of 19 games they played this season, they only failed to win 2, one unexpected loss to Nottm Forest and a draw against Arsenal.
Who would have thought they'd be performing that well following the departure of Jurgen Klopp. Hiring Arne Slot was a bit of a risky move, as he had never managed a club outside of the Dutch Eredivisie, but, so far, he's doing an amazing job.

Liverpool leads the UCL table with a perfect score of 15 points. Their next Champions League game is against Girona, who lost 4 out of their 5 UCL games, so I expect another 3 points there.
Liverpool is in there best form right now and it was a good revenge against real Madrid as they have not won against them for a while now this win is going to make Liverpool to cement their first position in the Champions league table, I think their new coach came and is doing well because not everyone expected this kind of performance and form from Liverpool on his fist season at the club but he has manege to keep things working at the club

Madrid this season is not at their best back to back champions league defeat for them and it's not a good one for them at the champions league table as they go further down the table
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on November 28, 2024, 05:07:52 PM
You have lost your bet mate, because Liverpool was able to outplay Madrid in the game and scored two goals on a clean sheet. It's was since 2009 that Liverpool have won Madrid last but this season Liverpool broke that record with the opportunity they have since they're in a good form and Madrid is not. I feel for Madrid because their chance of qualifying to the next round is slim.

Real Madrid have just recorded two win, three loss and zero draws in their five games played so far in the champions league competition. They are currently on the 24th position after the champions league round five game has been played successfully. They only have three more games to go from now, I don’t know who their opponents may be to know their chances of qualifying for the next round of the competition. These team always performs wonders in the champions league and even with this their performance, they can still try and qualify for the next round of the competition.

Liverpool really did them dirty today also and outplayed them and won them with two goals to none. I feel very sad for them because of the name given to them as kings of the champions league, they’ve really faced a lot of shame so far this season in the champions league but I know they will not give up on this just so easy yet. Real Madrid are full of wonders, I’m expecting them to show one soon and see how they’ll make it to the next round of the competition soon.
If Real Madrid and City is out from the group stage, we will see a different club winning the league this season. I don't know how possible Madrid will escape not going home in the group stage if they cannot win all the rest of their matches. It's a pity that most of their first choice players couldn't come out to defend their club due to injury. A very bad season for the defending champions, and a wonderful season for Liverpool.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on November 28, 2024, 05:20:28 PM

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If Real Madrid and City is out from the group stage, we will see a different club winning the league this season. I don't know how possible Madrid will escape not going home in the group stage if they cannot win all the rest of their matches. It's a pity that most of their first choice players couldn't come out to defend their club due to injury. A very bad season for the defending champions, and a wonderful season for Liverpool.
[/quote] There's still time for them to recover and come back stronger I think this is just match day five and with the new format there are allot of matches still left before the play off rounds so there's time for both Manchester city and real Madrid to get better I think what is happening to these two teams is that you can't stay at the top for ever so this is not just their season to win maybe they will have to come back next season because this i don't see them either Madrid or Manchester city wining the champions league
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Paragon2 on November 28, 2024, 05:23:23 PM
Real Madrid team performed the worst and missed penalties, I think Real Madrid fans will never forgive. Because Liverpool faced the most snakes in this match, and failed them from reaching a higher level. Because Mbappe still has a long way to go to reach his success, let's see if this season's championship will be in favor of Liverpool team. So far, Liverpool team has occupied the first place in the points table by winning this match today.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on November 28, 2024, 09:08:07 PM
Liverpool is unstoppable this season. They are now on a 6-long winning streak (all competitions) and out of 19 games they played this season, they only failed to win 2, one unexpected loss to Nottm Forest and a draw against Arsenal.
Who would have thought they'd be performing that well following the departure of Jurgen Klopp. Hiring Arne Slot was a bit of a risky move, as he had never managed a club outside of the Dutch Eredivisie, but, so far, he's doing an amazing job.

Liverpool leads the UCL table with a perfect score of 15 points. Their next Champions League game is against Girona, who lost 4 out of their 5 UCL games, so I expect another 3 points there.
Liverpool is in there best form right now and it was a good revenge against real Madrid as they have not won against them for a while now this win is going to make Liverpool to cement their first position in the Champions league table, I think their new coach came and is doing well because not everyone expected this kind of performance and form from Liverpool on his fist season at the club but he has manege to keep things working at the club

Madrid this season is not at their best back to back champions league defeat for them and it's not a good one for them at the champions league table as they go further down the table

Yep, because there's a new Don in town.
Don Arne's flawless Champions League campaign continues following his victory over Don Carlo :)
Slot changes the system, There's a lot of confidence in and around the team. Not just the player but the team.
Sometimes I don't even get to predict the approach he wants to take, something I can guess during Klopp's time at Liverpool.
Liverpool played well in this game, it’s not like Madrid has the worst performance just that Liverpool is that good.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on November 28, 2024, 09:17:32 PM
To be honest, it's nice to see Liverpool win at home against Real Madrid it's a victory that fans are waiting for, although this week against Manchester City we will not be afraid if we see a brilliant game.

Real Madrid are fighting it out to stay in the play-offs in the final table, although it will be a little more to qualify automatically if only relying on 3 more matches it will be a little difficult.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on November 28, 2024, 10:36:41 PM
Yep, because there's a new Don in town.
Don Arne's flawless Champions League campaign continues following his victory over Don Carlo :)
Slot changes the system, There's a lot of confidence in and around the team. Not just the player but the team.
Sometimes I don't even get to predict the approach he wants to take, something I can guess during Klopp's time at Liverpool.
Liverpool played well in this game, it’s not like Madrid has the worst performance just that Liverpool is that good.

Liverpool under klopp play a counter football, which is unlike slot that plays a possession type of football and counter as well. The thing is, this Liverpool team is already used to counter due to the fast moving players. And as for the madrid game against Liverpool, I believe no one was actually expecting Madrid to win right?, Because they haven't being that good this season. Mbappe was literally laughed at on social media. Missing penalty even made things worst for him. I'm actually feeling bad for him because he has really struggled to meet up to expectations.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on November 29, 2024, 01:12:15 PM
Liverpool under klopp play a counter football, which is unlike slot that plays a possession type of football and counter as well. The thing is, this Liverpool team is already used to counter due to the fast moving players. And as for the madrid game against Liverpool, I believe no one was actually expecting Madrid to win right?, Because they haven't being that good this season. Mbappe was literally laughed at on social media. Missing penalty even made things worst for him. I'm actually feeling bad for him because he has really struggled to meet up to expectations.
Surely every coach has a different philosophy with their game. But what I appreciate is when Arne Slot did it in a good way, their transition was not so visible from Klopp's coaching relay to Slot.

This is a success, because something that was worried at the beginning did not happen and even Liverpool could show something extraordinary from the game they showed under Slot's direction.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on November 29, 2024, 04:36:27 PM
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 both klopp and Slot play a similar kind of football that is why this Liverpool team is doing well because klopp too played a possession and counter football which is almost thesame kind of game pattern, both both manegers played counter attack and pressing their opponent so the player's are already used to that and it's working perfectly good for the team in general I the departure of klopp is not really felt by the club because the new coach is playing just like klopp and that is what others club's are lacking when a coach is going they should bring a coach that has similar playing pattern to the one that is leaving so that the player's can quickly adapt to the playing pattern of the new coach
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on November 29, 2024, 06:21:46 PM
Yep, because there's a new Don in town.
Don Arne's flawless Champions League campaign continues following his victory over Don Carlo :)
Slot changes the system, There's a lot of confidence in and around the team. Not just the player but the team.
Sometimes I don't even get to predict the approach he wants to take, something I can guess during Klopp's time at Liverpool.
Liverpool played well in this game, it’s not like Madrid has the worst performance just that Liverpool is that good.

Liverpool under klopp play a counter football, which is unlike slot that plays a possession type of football and counter as well. The thing is, this Liverpool team is already used to counter due to the fast moving players. And as for the madrid game against Liverpool, I believe no one was actually expecting Madrid to win right?, Because they haven't being that good this season. Mbappe was literally laughed at on social media. Missing penalty even made things worst for him. I'm actually feeling bad for him because he has really struggled to meet up to expectations.

Yeah, you are right. Slot attacking style and impressive performances have caught the eye, everyone's touch is near perfect too.
Seeing how they continue to develop and perform throughout the season is exciting.

I'm genuinely concerned about what’s going on with Mbappé. A player of his caliber fading like this doesn’t sit right with me but we know, Real Madrid is not PSG [regarding the pressure]. There is a different environment and Ancelotti isn’t helping by starting him despite poor performances. It was obvious that night something was wrong with him.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on November 29, 2024, 10:47:50 PM
I'm genuinely concerned about what’s going on with Mbappé. A player of his caliber fading like this doesn’t sit right with me but we know, Real Madrid is not PSG [regarding the pressure]. There is a different environment and Ancelotti isn’t helping by starting him despite poor performances. It was obvious that night something was wrong with him.

I believe no player will want to be in his place currently. The truth is, football sometimes works in a mysterious way. That's why, somethings, we see some players that are 100% prone to injury, but when they join another club, they play well without injury. A player like Emile Smith Rowe is a perfect example. Since leaving Arsenal to join Fulham, he has been consistent, which is unlike when he was with Arsenal.

While there are other players that perform well in a club, but fail to replicate same in other clubs, and mbappe happens to be in this position. It's so sad.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on November 30, 2024, 09:28:36 AM
It's weird to see Real Madrid so low in the UCL table, it's clearly not their best season, but they still have 3 games left to play, which are:
Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)

Salzburg should be an easy 3 points. Atalanta is really strong this season, currently 2nd in Serie A and 5th in the UCL, it will be hard to earn any points on them. Brest is struggling in Ligue 1 with only 4 wins and 7 losses, they are doing OK in the UCL but that's due to the 3 wins over a relatively weak team, I think Real should be able to win.
I expect Real to finish the league stage with at least 12 points, which would put them in the play-offs.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on November 30, 2024, 10:43:50 PM
I'm genuinely concerned about what’s going on with Mbappé. A player of his caliber fading like this doesn’t sit right with me but we know, Real Madrid is not PSG [regarding the pressure]. There is a different environment and Ancelotti isn’t helping by starting him despite poor performances. It was obvious that night something was wrong with him.

I believe no player will want to be in his place currently. The truth is, football sometimes works in a mysterious way. That's why, somethings, we see some players that are 100% prone to injury, but when they join another club, they play well without injury. A player like Emile Smith Rowe is a perfect example. Since leaving Arsenal to join Fulham, he has been consistent, which is unlike when he was with Arsenal.

While there are other players that perform well in a club, but fail to replicate same in other clubs, and mbappe happens to be in this position. It's so sad.

The mystery of football :) And yeah, Emile Smith Rowe has been a great addition to Fulham, he's finally getting a chance to play in the first team consistently and I think he's found his level and is enjoying his time in West London.
No pressure at Fulham like at Arsenal, he’s clearly enjoying his football, Very bittersweet to watch Emile Smith Rowe flourish at Fulham.
Oh wait.. next week it’s Saka vs Emile Smith Rowe 8)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on November 30, 2024, 11:54:47 PM
Liverpool under klopp play a counter football, which is unlike slot that plays a possession type of football and counter as well. The thing is, this Liverpool team is already used to counter due to the fast moving players. And as for the madrid game against Liverpool, I believe no one was actually expecting Madrid to win right?, Because they haven't being that good this season. Mbappe was literally laughed at on social media. Missing penalty even made things worst for him. I'm actually feeling bad for him because he has really struggled to meet up to expectations.
Surely every coach has a different philosophy with their game. But what I appreciate is when Arne Slot did it in a good way, their transition was not so visible from Klopp's coaching relay to Slot.

This is a success, because something that was worried at the beginning did not happen and even Liverpool could show something extraordinary from the game they showed under Slot's direction.
I even marveled how Arne Slot is making good use of Liverpool players without making any new signings of players other than sticking with Liverpool players Klopp left in the team.

There are coaches it would be, they will try to sign new players or have a poor start at the beginning of the season. Here we are seeing a beautiful performance from Liverpool in Premier League and Champions League matches. They are even topping both leagues, being the title race contenders of both leagues
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on December 01, 2024, 12:47:33 PM
It's weird to see Real Madrid so low in the UCL table, it's clearly not their best season, but they still have 3 games left to play, which are:
Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)

Salzburg should be an easy 3 points. Atalanta is really strong this season, currently 2nd in Serie A and 5th in the UCL, it will be hard to earn any points on them. Brest is struggling in Ligue 1 with only 4 wins and 7 losses, they are doing OK in the UCL but that's due to the 3 wins over a relatively weak team, I think Real should be able to win.
I expect Real to finish the league stage with at least 12 points, which would put them in the play-offs.
My hope is the same, namely that Real Madrid can qualify for the next stage. because I'm also not used to seeing Real Madrid have a pretty bad performance in the UCL. 3 defeats from 5 matches really makes Real Madrid look like they are not Real Madrid. Against Atalanta it might be difficult but against Brest and Salzburg it shouldn't be that difficult for Real Madrid. So you should get full points from these two matches. And it would be great if Real Madrid also managed to beat Atalanta.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on December 01, 2024, 01:08:14 PM
Surely every coach has a different philosophy with their game. But what I appreciate is when Arne Slot did it in a good way, their transition was not so visible from Klopp's coaching relay to Slot.

This is a success, because something that was worried at the beginning did not happen and even Liverpool could show something extraordinary from the game they showed under Slot's direction.
I even marveled how Arne Slot is making good use of Liverpool players without making any new signings of players other than sticking with Liverpool players Klopp left in the team.

There are coaches it would be, they will try to sign new players or have a poor start at the beginning of the season. Here we are seeing a beautiful performance from Liverpool in Premier League and Champions League matches. They are even topping both leagues, being the title race contenders of both leagues
I see there are advantages here, one of which is the chemistry of the players has been created so that it is very beneficial for Arne Slot when he does not make many major changes from within his squad.

It is undeniable that chemistry is one of the things that can make a team successful and it will be very helpful for the coach. Because the coach can more easily implement the desired strategy when his players already have very good chemistry.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on December 01, 2024, 03:20:04 PM
It's weird to see Real Madrid so low in the UCL table, it's clearly not their best season, but they still have 3 games left to play, which are:
Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)

Salzburg should be an easy 3 points. Atalanta is really strong this season, currently 2nd in Serie A and 5th in the UCL, it will be hard to earn any points on them. Brest is struggling in Ligue 1 with only 4 wins and 7 losses, they are doing OK in the UCL but that's due to the 3 wins over a relatively weak team, I think Real should be able to win.
I expect Real to finish the league stage with at least 12 points, which would put them in the play-offs.
My hope is the same, namely that Real Madrid can qualify for the next stage. because I'm also not used to seeing Real Madrid have a pretty bad performance in the UCL. 3 defeats from 5 matches really makes Real Madrid look like they are not Real Madrid. Against Atalanta it might be difficult but against Brest and Salzburg it shouldn't be that difficult for Real Madrid. So you should get full points from these two matches. And it would be great if Real Madrid also managed to beat Atalanta.

I like the part where the wingers have the ball but nobody is in the box.. Or when they are on a counter but pass the ball backward or laterally for no reason. lol
Without Kross Madrid is just an ordinary club and even worse without Vini then Mbappe came and the team went to shit.
I hate to sound pessimistic but I think Madrid should focus on La Liga now. They have a chance there. It's over for them in the Champions League. IMO
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on December 01, 2024, 09:31:32 PM
It's weird to see Real Madrid so low in the UCL table, it's clearly not their best season, but they still have 3 games left to play, which are:
Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)
My prediction is that the remaining 3 matches will be won by Real Madrid.
But we never know the results later, but Real Madrid is now under performance.

After this result, it can be seen whether Real Madrid will qualify directly or continue this play-off round also depends on the victory of other teams because other clubs are trying to win points to qualify so as not to enter the playof zone.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on December 01, 2024, 09:34:11 PM
It's weird to see Real Madrid so low in the UCL table, it's clearly not their best season, but they still have 3 games left to play, which are:
Atalanta (away)
Salzburg (home)
Brest (away)

Salzburg should be an easy 3 points. Atalanta is really strong this season, currently 2nd in Serie A and 5th in the UCL, it will be hard to earn any points on them. Brest is struggling in Ligue 1 with only 4 wins and 7 losses, they are doing OK in the UCL but that's due to the 3 wins over a relatively weak team, I think Real should be able to win.
I expect Real to finish the league stage with at least 12 points, which would put them in the play-offs.
My hope is the same, namely that Real Madrid can qualify for the next stage. because I'm also not used to seeing Real Madrid have a pretty bad performance in the UCL. 3 defeats from 5 matches really makes Real Madrid look like they are not Real Madrid. Against Atalanta it might be difficult but against Brest and Salzburg it shouldn't be that difficult for Real Madrid. So you should get full points from these two matches. And it would be great if Real Madrid also managed to beat Atalanta.

I like the part where the wingers have the ball but nobody is in the box.. Or when they are on a counter but pass the ball backward or laterally for no reason. lol
Without Kross Madrid is just an ordinary club and even worse without Vini then Mbappe came and the team went to shit.
I hate to sound pessimistic but I think Madrid should focus on La Liga now. They have a chance there. It's over for them in the Champions League. IMO
I don't think that it is over yet for Madrid despite their poor performance in most of their UCL matches, because if they lose to Atalanta, and win the rest of their matches, Madrid might qualify with play off for the best losers. However, I think there's more hope for Madrid in Laliga than UCL, because Barcelona have failed to keep up with their consistency.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on December 01, 2024, 10:56:40 PM
both klopp and Slot play a similar kind of football that is why this Liverpool team is doing well because klopp too played a possession and counter football which is almost thesame kind of game pattern, both both manegers played counter attack and pressing their opponent so the player's are already used to that and it's working perfectly good for the team in general I the departure of klopp is not really felt by the club because the new coach is playing just like klopp and that is what others club's are lacking when a coach is going they should bring a coach that has similar playing pattern to the one that is leaving so that the player's can quickly adapt to the playing pattern of the new coach
I think huge difference tactician between Klopp and Arne Slot then impact both of them for Liverpool, under Arne Slot era have instant impact how Liverpool dominance not only in premier league but also Liverpool success winning all matches in Champion League.
Must memorize under Arne Slot Liverpool not make huge recruitment new player and only few players but success bring dominance Liverpool in premier league from Manchester City and seems bigger potential for winning domestic league trophy in this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on December 02, 2024, 11:46:42 AM
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 both klopp and Slot play a similar kind of football that is why this Liverpool team is doing well because klopp too played a possession and counter football which is almost thesame kind of game pattern, both both manegers played counter attack and pressing their opponent so the player's are already used to that and it's working perfectly good for the team in general I the departure of klopp is not really felt by the club because the new coach is playing just like klopp and that is what others club's are lacking when a coach is going they should bring a coach that has similar playing pattern to the one that is leaving so that the player's can quickly adapt to the playing pattern of the new coach
Well, basically Arne Slot and Jurgen Klopp have almost the same coaching style and indeed this was prepared from the start before Klopp left. And Klopp also seemed very happy when Slot was the name of the coach who would replace him. and the players at Liverpool don't need much adaptation because there haven't been many changes at the club apart from the coach who also has the same pattern and strategy as Klopp. Even Liverpool was not very active in adding new players in the transfer market yesterday. And this is what makes the Liverpool squad remain the same and can develop more maturely because there are no updates that require a lot of adaptation there.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on December 03, 2024, 09:18:00 AM
I don't think that it is over yet for Madrid despite their poor performance in most of their UCL matches, because if they lose to Atalanta, and win the rest of their matches, Madrid might qualify with play off for the best losers. However, I think there's more hope for Madrid in Laliga than UCL, because Barcelona have failed to keep up with their consistency.

Mathematically, Yes, Madrid still has a chance of qualifying, perhaps through the playoffs, but with three matches remaining, Madrid must win all matches to increase their chances.
However, it seems that the new format of the Champions League this season is very difficult for Real Madrid.
And Carlo Ancelotti's job has been made even harder after losing Vinicius Junior and Rodrygo to injury.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 04, 2024, 05:29:43 PM
I'm genuinely concerned about what’s going on with Mbappé. A player of his caliber fading like this doesn’t sit right with me but we know, Real Madrid is not PSG [regarding the pressure]. There is a different environment and Ancelotti isn’t helping by starting him despite poor performances. It was obvious that night something was wrong with him.
The best answer to that is simple, don't put him in as a starter, he's not up to par yet, they should go with the lineup they had before he arrived at Madrid, for me Vinicius does 100% better than him, but that's my opinion, when something goes wrong it wouldn't hurt to put Mbappe in to play, but when the game has developed better, because the truth is he's not doing anything, you can't see that he's playing with effort, with desire, and it's a shame that he doesn't take advantage of such an opportunity that many would like to have, if he's there, he has to improve, if not, unfortunately he shouldn't be a starter.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 04, 2024, 06:04:42 PM
You should leave Mourinho out of this and not think of him coming back because he is currently doing great in fenarbach in turkey the problem with Mourinho is that his style of football has been outdated and he can't make any meaningful progress with his defensive kind of football one thing he needs to know is that football is dynamic and also evolving that's what he has come to terms with if Mourinho is to make any meaningful progress in his carrier going forward then he has to change tactics and play more of an attacking kind of football as the era of defending and getting teams on the counter is gone now adays team's play possession and pressing football he is also struggling with this his style of play in turkey and if he continues this way I see him being sacked again in turkey

Well I wouldn't dare to say that their football is obsolete just because it is more focused on being defensive, because the most defensive football in the world is the Italian one and it still seems that it gives good results, I think that Mou's moment could be any one, rather what Mou is missing is that he links other strategies that are more aggressive but maintaining a defensive focus because the counterattacks that he plans are very effective, but instead of focusing on a game from the middle down, they should do it from the middle up, always pressing, that's all I can say about him and that clearly he could direct not only in Turkey but in any elite team in the world.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on December 05, 2024, 02:29:49 PM
You should leave Mourinho out of this and not think of him coming back because he is currently doing great in fenarbach in turkey the problem with Mourinho is that his style of football has been outdated and he can't make any meaningful progress with his defensive kind of football one thing he needs to know is that football is dynamic and also evolving that's what he has come to terms with if Mourinho is to make any meaningful progress in his carrier going forward then he has to change tactics and play more of an attacking kind of football as the era of defending and getting teams on the counter is gone now adays team's play possession and pressing football he is also struggling with this his style of play in turkey and if he continues this way I see him being sacked again in turkey

Well I wouldn't dare to say that their football is obsolete just because it is more focused on being defensive, because the most defensive football in the world is the Italian one and it still seems that it gives good results, I think that Mou's moment could be any one, rather what Mou is missing is that he links other strategies that are more aggressive but maintaining a defensive focus because the counterattacks that he plans are very effective, but instead of focusing on a game from the middle down, they should do it from the middle up, always pressing, that's all I can say about him and that clearly he could direct not only in Turkey but in any elite team in the world.
There is always a debate about this, because it depends on strategy and each coach has his own style. Regarding Mourinho, some people say so, but some others say different things.

I personally can't say this is right or wrong, because when you win there won't be a discussion like this. This only happens when the team handled by Mourinho loses. So overall I think this is subjective.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on December 05, 2024, 03:11:37 PM
You should leave Mourinho out of this and not think of him coming back because he is currently doing great in fenarbach in turkey the problem with Mourinho is that his style of football has been outdated and he can't make any meaningful progress with his defensive kind of football one thing he needs to know is that football is dynamic and also evolving that's what he has come to terms with if Mourinho is to make any meaningful progress in his carrier going forward then he has to change tactics and play more of an attacking kind of football as the era of defending and getting teams on the counter is gone now adays team's play possession and pressing football he is also struggling with this his style of play in turkey and if he continues this way I see him being sacked again in turkey

Well I wouldn't dare to say that their football is obsolete just because it is more focused on being defensive, because the most defensive football in the world is the Italian one and it still seems that it gives good results, I think that Mou's moment could be any one, rather what Mou is missing is that he links other strategies that are more aggressive but maintaining a defensive focus because the counterattacks that he plans are very effective, but instead of focusing on a game from the middle down, they should do it from the middle up, always pressing, that's all I can say about him and that clearly he could direct not only in Turkey but in any elite team in the world.
There is always a debate about this, because it depends on strategy and each coach has his own style. Regarding Mourinho, some people say so, but some others say different things.

I personally can't say this is right or wrong, because when you win there won't be a discussion like this. This only happens when the team handled by Mourinho loses. So overall I think this is subjective.
weather subjective or not the fact is football has really changed allot few years now that is why coaches like pep is dominant any league he goes that's simple traceable to his approach and style of possession and attracting kind of play yes you can defend and get results but that is not guarantee that your going to be doing well with that kind of pattern of play because you can't be defending and start building from the back in football right now allot of teams are strengthening their attack so when you're defense is cut open you will definitely suffer and that is what is happening to Mourinho
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 05, 2024, 07:39:34 PM
weather subjective or not the fact is football has really changed allot few years now that is why coaches like pep is dominant any league he goes that's simple traceable to his approach and style of possession and attracting kind of play yes you can defend and get results but that is not guarantee that your going to be doing well with that kind of pattern of play because you can't be defending and start building from the back in football right now allot of teams are strengthening their attack so when you're defense is cut open you will definitely suffer and that is what is happening to Mourinho
Well, you can say that up until now Pep has been seen to have done much more than Mourinho, not for nothing but every time City plays poor Pep feels those games as if he were right there playing, this could mean that Coah is going through a lot of anxiety problems, at least they won 3 points in the PL, which is why he can sleep well after a very losing streak, but there is still a long way to go, I know that teams go through disappointments, but Man City are defending Champions, they must do something quickly , because as far as I know, they want to be champions again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on December 06, 2024, 03:19:12 PM
There is always a debate about this, because it depends on strategy and each coach has his own style. Regarding Mourinho, some people say so, but some others say different things.

I personally can't say this is right or wrong, because when you win there won't be a discussion like this. This only happens when the team handled by Mourinho loses. So overall I think this is subjective.
weather subjective or not the fact is football has really changed allot few years now that is why coaches like pep is dominant any league he goes that's simple traceable to his approach and style of possession and attracting kind of play yes you can defend and get results but that is not guarantee that your going to be doing well with that kind of pattern of play because you can't be defending and start building from the back in football right now allot of teams are strengthening their attack so when you're defense is cut open you will definitely suffer and that is what is happening to Mourinho
I remember when Mourinho was at Real Madrid, at that time he was criticized a lot for the strategy he implemented, and in one match (I don't remember which team it was against) and at that time he implemented tactics that were not in accordance with his wishes, the result was they lost.

Here it became a weapon for Mou that with a strategy that was not in accordance with what he thought did not make his team play better.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on December 06, 2024, 09:48:55 PM
I'm genuinely concerned about what’s going on with Mbappé. A player of his caliber fading like this doesn’t sit right with me but we know, Real Madrid is not PSG [regarding the pressure]. There is a different environment and Ancelotti isn’t helping by starting him despite poor performances. It was obvious that night something was wrong with him.
The best answer to that is simple, don't put him in as a starter, he's not up to par yet, they should go with the lineup they had before he arrived at Madrid, for me Vinicius does 100% better than him, but that's my opinion, when something goes wrong it wouldn't hurt to put Mbappe in to play, but when the game has developed better, because the truth is he's not doing anything, you can't see that he's playing with effort, with desire, and it's a shame that he doesn't take advantage of such an opportunity that many would like to have, if he's there, he has to improve, if not, unfortunately he shouldn't be a starter.

Yep, It should be a heat map for Mbappe for a few games, and never to touch a penalty again, he must eat the bench until he's serious.
It's time to admit that he has destroyed the team, it's time to put him on the bench and give Endrick space.
But the world doesn’t work like that. Mbappe is a player wanted by the president directly, there’s no way the coach can bench him.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on December 10, 2024, 08:49:58 PM
I just finished watching Liverpool match versus Girona, and it was very interesting. Only one scored by Sallah through a penalty kick made the difference in the match as Liverpool has won all their matches. In the next few minutes, Real Madrid vs Atalanta match will kick off and that's the match of the day.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on December 10, 2024, 09:38:54 PM
I just finished watching Liverpool match versus Girona, and it was very interesting. Only one scored by Sallah through a penalty kick made the difference in the match as Liverpool has won all their matches. In the next few minutes, Real Madrid vs Atalanta match will kick off and that's the match of the day.
Liverpool became an unbeaten team for 6 matches, it is interesting that this team really showed great performance, although 1 goal against Girona but it brought full points.

Atalanta vs Real Madrid 1 goal led by Madrid through Mbappe's goal.
But why was Mbappe substituted? Is he injured? Like it's not bad? I have to see this news.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on December 10, 2024, 10:32:59 PM
I just finished watching Liverpool match versus Girona, and it was very interesting. Only one scored by Sallah through a penalty kick made the difference in the match as Liverpool has won all their matches. In the next few minutes, Real Madrid vs Atalanta match will kick off and that's the match of the day.
Liverpool became an unbeaten team for 6 matches, it is interesting that this team really showed great performance, although 1 goal against Girona but it brought full points.

Atalanta vs Real Madrid 1 goal led by Madrid through Mbappe's goal.
But why was Mbappe substituted? Is he injured? Like it's not bad? I have to see this news.
Nice win for Liverpool this night with a convincing 1:0 victory over Girona this is one of Liverpool best start in the champion's league Hans slopt is really doing a great job at Liverpool,  the interesting part of it is that Liverpool is playing just like when they were under klopp with high pressing kind of game, even though they didn't score much goals today it was really a convincing win for Liverpool with three points on the bag for therm it will help them on the table standing in the champion's league this season knowing that the format has changed unlike previous years where it used to be in groups of four teams each
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on December 10, 2024, 10:39:12 PM
Atalanta making it difficult for Madrid to gain three points and improve their position in the knock off stage ;D With how aggressive they are playing now and enough time to play, there's a high likelihood of a 3-3 draw.

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But why was Mbappe substituted? Is he injured? Like it's not bad? I have to see this news.
Yeah, he appears to be injured but we'll have to wait for an official statement to explain the extent of the injury.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on December 10, 2024, 11:13:22 PM
Atalanta vs Real Madrid 1 goal led by Madrid through Mbappe's goal.
But why was Mbappe substituted? Is he injured? Like it's not bad? I have to see this news.
The final result, Real Madrid won against Atalanta with a score of 2 - 3


Atalanta almost equalized after their second goal in the 65th minute by Ademoia Lookman. However, in the end, Real Madrid was able to maintain the score until the end.

Very impressed with Vini JR who just returned from injury, and immediately contributed 1 goal and an assist too. This time, the Real Madrid trio Mbappe, Vini JR, and Bellingham made the fans satisfied with their contributions.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on December 11, 2024, 12:25:15 AM
Atalanta and Real put on a good show tonight. Real with 3-2 win, but I think a draw would be a fairer result. And they would be splitting points if not for the wasted chance by Retegui in the additional time.

Liverpool with another win. They are unstoppable in the UCL this season, with six straight wins.

Odds for all games of tomorrow's round (from duelbits):
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Pretty decent payout for Barcelona (x1.90). Their performance in La Liga has dropped a bit recently, but they are still at the top of the table. Dortmund is definitely underperforming in the Bundesliga, but they are doing really well in the Champions League, at least so far (4 wins and 1 loss, same as Barcelona).
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: 20Bet on December 11, 2024, 12:45:04 PM
As we may noticed, Dortmund has problems with consistency and injuries, but their strong home supporters at Signal Iduna Park will give them a nice boost tonight. Although Barcelona is leading La Liga, their players look and some of them like Marc-Andre ter Stegen and Ansu Fati are still injured (high % Ronald Araujo will be back today). Well, I believe Dortmund will win 3-2 because of their home advantage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on December 11, 2024, 03:51:12 PM
As we may noticed, Dortmund has problems with consistency and injuries, but their strong home supporters at Signal Iduna Park will give them a nice boost tonight. Although Barcelona is leading La Liga, their players look and some of them like Marc-Andre ter Stegen and Ansu Fati are still injured (high % Ronald Araujo will be back today). Well, I believe Dortmund will win 3-2 because of their home advantage.
I might have a different prediction. Because I think Barcelona will really win this match. In fact, I estimate that Barcelona will score more than 2 goals. Dortmund might be a very tough opponent. In fact, their toughness was able to surprise everyone last season because this team made it to the final in the UCL last season. but I think Barcelona is still much tougher. And yes I will favorite Barcelona.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on December 11, 2024, 05:02:13 PM
As we may noticed, Dortmund has problems with consistency and injuries, but their strong home supporters at Signal Iduna Park will give them a nice boost tonight. Although Barcelona is leading La Liga, their players look and some of them like Marc-Andre ter Stegen and Ansu Fati are still injured (high % Ronald Araujo will be back today). Well, I believe Dortmund will win 3-2 because of their home advantage.
I might have a different prediction. Because I think Barcelona will really win this match. In fact, I estimate that Barcelona will score more than 2 goals. Dortmund might be a very tough opponent. In fact, their toughness was able to surprise everyone last season because this team made it to the final in the UCL last season. but I think Barcelona is still much tougher. And yes I will favorite Barcelona.
It will be really difficult for Barcelona to go to the signage Iduna park  to win against Dortmund of all clubs because Dortmund at home can be difficult to beat as they have made their home a slather ground for many teams even Bayern Munich finds it difficult to beat Dortmund when they are at home, so I really don't see Barcelona going away with three points from this match, it will be a good match to watch because both teams play a high pressing and attack minded football so it'll be a matter of which defense is better and which attack is more clinical in front of goal
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on December 11, 2024, 05:43:52 PM
Atalanta making it difficult for Madrid to gain three points and improve their position in the knock off stage ;D With how aggressive they are playing now and enough time to play, there's a high likelihood of a 3-3 draw.

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But why was Mbappe substituted? Is he injured? Like it's not bad? I have to see this news.
Yeah, he appears to be injured but we'll have to wait for an official statement to explain the extent of the injury.
It was a triller in the champion's league yesterday night as Madrid got a needed win against Atlanta in Italy it was an interesting game to watch as both teams show's their class and attacking prowess with Madrid scoring three past an inspired Atlanta team, It would have ended in a Three all draw if Atlanta where more clinical at goal they wasted most of their chances in front of goal it was nice seeing vinicious and mppape in the score sheet I think Madrid was the better team and they deserve the win as they took all the chances that came their way. Atlanta is really a team to watch out for this season both in the champion's league and in the Italian Seria because with the way they are playing they can take any team in Europe on
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on December 11, 2024, 08:42:49 PM
It will be really difficult for Barcelona to go to the signage Iduna park  to win against Dortmund of all clubs because Dortmund at home can be difficult to beat as they have made their home a slather ground for many teams even Bayern Munich finds it difficult to beat Dortmund when they are at home, so I really don't see Barcelona going away with three points from this match, it will be a good match to watch because both teams play a high pressing and attack minded football so it'll be a matter of which defense is better and which attack is more clinical in front of goal
Barcelona will not be lacking in creativity because Lamine Yamal will play, and of course, although he is just a single player, he can be the difference in that game as he has been in some games before. Raphinha, Olmo, and Lewandoski in the starting lineup improve the chances they have against Dortmund. Arsenal need a win in our game too. We have defensive challenges too because of injuries; hopefully we can win with the home advantage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on December 11, 2024, 09:02:24 PM
It will be really difficult for Barcelona to go to the signage Iduna park  to win against Dortmund of all clubs because Dortmund at home can be difficult to beat as they have made their home a slather ground for many teams even Bayern Munich finds it difficult to beat Dortmund when they are at home, so I really don't see Barcelona going away with three points from this match, it will be a good match to watch because both teams play a high pressing and attack minded football so it'll be a matter of which defense is better and which attack is more clinical in front of goal
Barcelona will not be lacking in creativity because Lamine Yamal will play, and of course, although he is just a single player, he can be the difference in that game as he has been in some games before. Raphinha, Olmo, and Lewandoski in the starting lineup improve the chances they have against Dortmund. Arsenal need a win in our game too. We have defensive challenges too because of injuries; hopefully we can win with the home advantage.
Arsenal are expected to win against Monaco this night and there's no excuse that arsenal fan's will give if they don't win against Monaco of all clubs at the Emirate stadium tonight, injuries or not I don't personally see Monaco as a threat to arsenal this night I see arsenal taking the three points this night because it will be very very difficult for Monaco to cause an upset at the Emirate stadium tonight, Arteta and all the Arsenal player's knows what is at stake and will have to put in their best to see that they get all three points and move up higher at the champion's league table tonight, I see arsenal wining by 2:0
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on December 11, 2024, 09:24:46 PM
Who are your betting favorites in tonight's match? I think Benfica and AC Milan are sure winners.
While the other matches are still difficult, not distrusting these big teams is difficult where they can draw and that is rarely bet on in football.
But I will enjoy this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on December 11, 2024, 09:38:56 PM
Who are your betting favorites in tonight's match? I think Benfica and AC Milan are sure winners.
While the other matches are still difficult, not distrusting these big teams is difficult where they can draw and that is rarely bet on in football.
But I will enjoy this match.
I favor AC Milan, Barcelona and Arsenal. Meanwhile, I skipped the rest. especially the Juventus vs Man City match, I think the result will be difficult to predict. But because this is the Champions League, don't be surprised if we see the favorite team lose. Because all of that usually happens.

Currently the Juventus vs Man City match is still in the first half and the score is still 0-0.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on December 11, 2024, 09:48:55 PM
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It looks like Arsenal will win the match against Monaco. Even though we are currently still in the first round. But as can be seen Arsenal have a superior statistical record and now the score has also changed to 1-0. Bukayo Saka managed to score 1 goal against Monaco and put Arsenal ahead 1-0 for a while. Well, now we are still in the first half and Monaco still has a chance to get a goal back. But I think one of my favorite teams, namely Arsenal, will really win and won't let Monaco score a goal back. Unfortunately I didn't watch this match. Because for now I am more focused on the Juventus vs Man City match.  At first it was quite boring but now the tension of the game is getting higher. And I think in the second half maybe we will start to see goals scored for the Juventus vs Man City match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Asiska02 on December 11, 2024, 10:21:25 PM
It will be really difficult for Barcelona to go to the signage Iduna park  to win against Dortmund of all clubs because Dortmund at home can be difficult to beat as they have made their home a slather ground for many teams even Bayern Munich finds it difficult to beat Dortmund when they are at home, so I really don't see Barcelona going away with three points from this match, it will be a good match to watch because both teams play a high pressing and attack minded football so it'll be a matter of which defense is better and which attack is more clinical in front of goal
Barcelona will not be lacking in creativity because Lamine Yamal will play, and of course, although he is just a single player, he can be the difference in that game as he has been in some games before. Raphinha, Olmo, and Lewandoski in the starting lineup improve the chances they have against Dortmund. Arsenal need a win in our game too. We have defensive challenges too because of injuries; hopefully we can win with the home advantage.

It is halftime now and Arsenal are already leading with a goal. The game still doesn’t look well settled on one part and anything can happen in the second half of the game that has began already. Until now, we are yet to see any more goals from Arsenal and Monaco are also yet to qualify the one goal too. Monaco’s possession is not as good as that of Arsenal but the Arsenal team are still showing their best performances in this games and will likely get more goals if Monaco fails to equalises to reduce the pressure on them by that goal. Playing from home is also a big advantage for the team and I am very certain that they won’t lose this match but will probably get a draw as a least in this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on December 11, 2024, 11:07:08 PM
Arsenal are expected to win against Monaco this night and there's no excuse that arsenal fan's will give if they don't win against Monaco of all clubs at the Emirate stadium tonight, injuries or not I don't personally see Monaco as a threat to arsenal this night I see arsenal taking the three points this night because it will be very very difficult for Monaco to cause an upset at the Emirate stadium tonight, Arteta and all the Arsenal player's knows what is at stake and will have to put in their best to see that they get all three points and move up higher at the champion's league table tonight, I see arsenal wining by 2:0
Instead of 2-0, Arsenal won against Monaco by 3-0. Saka scored two goals, and Havertz scored the third goal. Arsenal has advanced to the third spot in the Champions League table because of the 3-0 goals victory against Monaco. Arsenal would face Dinamo Zagreb and Girona in their upcoming matches, although that will be by next year.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on December 11, 2024, 11:38:24 PM
It will be really difficult for Barcelona to go to the signage Iduna park  to win against Dortmund of all clubs because Dortmund at home can be difficult to beat as they have made their home a slather ground for many teams even Bayern Munich finds it difficult to beat Dortmund when they are at home,
Well, this is not an easy match for Barcelona. However, finally Barcelona can do it well, get a win at Dortmund's home, this is a very good result, Barcelona is very consistent in UCL and now in 2nd place, cool.

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Dortmund actually managed to equalize the score 2-2 initially in the 78th minute, 3 minutes after Barcelona's advantage. However, this time Torres made it very good and ended the victory with another goal from him in the 85th minute.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on December 11, 2024, 11:39:38 PM
Man City received another beating, indicating their performance problems are far from over.
But, in all fairness, they did play quite well today. They dominated in possession (69%) and created a lot of chances, but were completely out of luck in finding the way to the net. I also think they were robbed a penalty after Lewis' shot was partially blocked by Gatti's hand. It was so late in the game that I don't expect it would make much impact on result (but we'll never know I guess).

Anyhow, bookies are still not writing Man City off, as they're 5th in the ranking of the favourites to win (with odds of x8.0), with Liverool being first with the odds of x5.0.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on December 12, 2024, 02:38:02 PM
Man City received another beating, indicating their performance problems are far from over.
But, in all fairness, they did play quite well today. They dominated in possession (69%) and created a lot of chances, but were completely out of luck in finding the way to the net. I also think they were robbed a penalty after Lewis' shot was partially blocked by Gatti's hand. It was so late in the game that I don't expect it would make much impact on result (but we'll never know I guess).

Anyhow, bookies are still not writing Man City off, as they're 5th in the ranking of the favourites to win (with odds of x8.0), with Liverool being first with the odds of x5.0.
Man City was really disappointing even though in fact they played quite well. But the problem is that Man City is quite bad at taking advantage of opportunities and their defense is also not as good as usual. Juventus, whose conditions are equally inconsistent, can actually beat Man City. I think Man City's defeat was a little unexpected. Pep seems to be having difficulty getting this team back to its best condition.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on December 12, 2024, 04:10:16 PM
Man City was really disappointing even though in fact they played quite well. But the problem is that Man City is quite bad at taking advantage of opportunities and their defense is also not as good as usual. Juventus, whose conditions are equally inconsistent, can actually beat Man City. I think Man City's defeat was a little unexpected. Pep seems to be having difficulty getting this team back to its best condition.
Lately Manchester City has a performance that often makes them have to swallow negative results, and that happened in their Champions League matches.

In the Champions League itself, this is the 3rd negative result in a row that they have achieved, and if we go to the English League, they also got it in the last few matches that were unable to achieve victory. Pep Guardiola must rack his brains to restore his team's lost performance.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on December 12, 2024, 05:30:06 PM
Man City was really disappointing even though in fact they played quite well. But the problem is that Man City is quite bad at taking advantage of opportunities and their defense is also not as good as usual. Juventus, whose conditions are equally inconsistent, can actually beat Man City. I think Man City's defeat was a little unexpected. Pep seems to be having difficulty getting this team back to its best condition.
Lately Manchester City has a performance that often makes them have to swallow negative results, and that happened in their Champions League matches.

In the Champions League itself, this is the 3rd negative result in a row that they have achieved, and if we go to the English League, they also got it in the last few matches that were unable to achieve victory. Pep Guardiola must rack his brains to restore his team's lost performance.
Manchester City has only gotten 5 points in their total UCL matches. It is true that Thebes club is not back to its feet and the players are getting demoralized with their poor performance over and over again. I don't think that they will have hope of qualifying to the round of 16. Juventus is not that consistent but they were able to defeat City on a clean sheet. I don't understand what's wrong with City because most of their injured players are back.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on December 12, 2024, 06:43:56 PM
Man City was really disappointing even though in fact they played quite well. But the problem is that Man City is quite bad at taking advantage of opportunities and their defense is also not as good as usual. Juventus, whose conditions are equally inconsistent, can actually beat Man City. I think Man City's defeat was a little unexpected. Pep seems to be having difficulty getting this team back to its best condition.
Lately Manchester City has a performance that often makes them have to swallow negative results, and that happened in their Champions League matches.

In the Champions League itself, this is the 3rd negative result in a row that they have achieved, and if we go to the English League, they also got it in the last few matches that were unable to achieve victory. Pep Guardiola must rack his brains to restore his team's lost performance.
Manchester City has only gotten 5 points in their total UCL matches. It is true that Thebes club is not back to its feet and the players are getting demoralized with their poor performance over and over again. I don't think that they will have hope of qualifying to the round of 16. Juventus is not that consistent but they were able to defeat City on a clean sheet. I don't understand what's wrong with City because most of their injured players are back.

It's a tough period for Pep and City. After 10 games, I can't say anything more. He can't fix the problem unless his players return and I fear they might not be up to speed.
But we know, Pep’s mentality makes him one of the best, he will keep fighting.
The team needs support from the fans more than ever, The team needs support to regain confidence.
And the constant insults to players or even the manager after every game won’t help. Yes, they are bad at the moment but City has what it takes to return to the best.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on December 12, 2024, 06:54:14 PM
Instead of 2-0, Arsenal won against Monaco by 3-0. Saka scored two goals, and Havertz scored the third goal. Arsenal has advanced to the third spot in the Champions League table because of the 3-0 goals victory against Monaco. Arsenal would face Dinamo Zagreb and Girona in their upcoming matches, although that will be by next year.

Arsenal cam for business and said it's now or never, it's really sad that Arsenal don't get what they really wish they could have, there are is this team that you just know by their performance that they are not winning this and that's the vibe Arsenal usually display in most their matches, not that I don't want them to progress but they are not taking the trophy.

It's very common for teams to struggle to get to the highest place so they don't get caught off by line but they are struggling and you can't struggle in Champions league this way and win the trophy, no way.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on December 12, 2024, 07:52:38 PM
Instead of 2-0, Arsenal won against Monaco by 3-0. Saka scored two goals, and Havertz scored the third goal. Arsenal has advanced to the third spot in the Champions League table because of the 3-0 goals victory against Monaco. Arsenal would face Dinamo Zagreb and Girona in their upcoming matches, although that will be by next year.

Arsenal cam for business and said it's now or never, it's really sad that Arsenal don't get what they really wish they could have, there are is this team that you just know by their performance that they are not winning this and that's the vibe Arsenal usually display in most their matches, not that I don't want them to progress but they are not taking the trophy.

It's very common for teams to struggle to get to the highest place so they don't get caught off by line but they are struggling and you can't struggle in Champions league this way and win the trophy, no way.
It was a dominating win for Arsenal as they over came As Monaco by 3:0 at the Emirate stadium in London yesterday night to move up higher at the champion's league table, it was a convincing win as they put back their weekend draw back to winning ways I really saw it coming as Monaco currently can't go toe to toe with Arsenal in their current form congratulations to Arteta and his boys as the forge ahead in the champion's league this season
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on December 12, 2024, 08:08:37 PM
It will be really difficult for Barcelona to go to the signage Iduna park  to win against Dortmund of all clubs because Dortmund at home can be difficult to beat as they have made their home a slather ground for many teams even Bayern Munich finds it difficult to beat Dortmund when they are at home,
Well, this is not an easy match for Barcelona. However, finally Barcelona can do it well, get a win at Dortmund's home, this is a very good result, Barcelona is very consistent in UCL and now in 2nd place, cool.

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Dortmund actually managed to equalize the score 2-2 initially in the 78th minute, 3 minutes after Barcelona's advantage. However, this time Torres made it very good and ended the victory with another goal from him in the 85th minute.
Personally speaking I didn't really saw it coming as Barcelona over came all odds to go to the signa iduna park at the home ground of Burissia Dortmund with their intimidating fan's to win 2:3 away from home this is really commendable as this kind of results don't come often, This win has moved Barcelona to second place on the table it's really looking good for them at this season champion's league campaign. I think Dortmund deserved a point from this game but this is football so is who takes their chances that wins the game and that is what Barcelona did yesterday night they created allot of chances from the midfield I think the inclusion of yamal back to the starting line up made the difference for Barcelona in this game
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on December 12, 2024, 10:08:59 PM
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Arsenal cam for business and said it's now or never, it's really sad that Arsenal don't get what they really wish they could have, there are is this team that you just know by their performance that they are not winning this and that's the vibe Arsenal usually display in most their matches, not that I don't want them to progress but they are not taking the trophy.
No Arsenal fan would want to hear that ;D I can understand that they do not give that commanding presence unlike other big teams in Europe but it's too early to conclude don't you think? Although we usually see the huge favorites take the trophy but we've also seen surprises before.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on December 13, 2024, 02:29:49 PM
Lately Manchester City has a performance that often makes them have to swallow negative results, and that happened in their Champions League matches.

In the Champions League itself, this is the 3rd negative result in a row that they have achieved, and if we go to the English League, they also got it in the last few matches that were unable to achieve victory. Pep Guardiola must rack his brains to restore his team's lost performance.
Manchester City has only gotten 5 points in their total UCL matches. It is true that Thebes club is not back to its feet and the players are getting demoralized with their poor performance over and over again. I don't think that they will have hope of qualifying to the round of 16. Juventus is not that consistent but they were able to defeat City on a clean sheet. I don't understand what's wrong with City because most of their injured players are back.
Their morale is disturbed by the series of negative results they get, and like it or not, it will certainly affect their performance in the next match.

I don't think they will be this bad this season, because in terms of squad, they are actually not too different and also still with the same coach. However, one of the influences is the absence of their mainstay players, that's what I think is very noticeable.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Lucius on December 13, 2024, 05:50:13 PM
Instead of 2-0, Arsenal won against Monaco by 3-0. Saka scored two goals, and Havertz scored the third goal. Arsenal has advanced to the third spot in the Champions League table because of the 3-0 goals victory against Monaco. Arsenal would face Dinamo Zagreb and Girona in their upcoming matches, although that will be by next year.

I don't know about Girona, but Dinamo ZG are in pretty bad shape and haven't beaten anyone in the domestic championship or CL for a long time - so I imagine they will be easy prey for Arsenal. Although with this format of the competition there are a lot of strange results and perhaps we shouldn't write anyone off in advance.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on December 13, 2024, 08:29:27 PM
Lately Manchester City has a performance that often makes them have to swallow negative results, and that happened in their Champions League matches.

In the Champions League itself, this is the 3rd negative result in a row that they have achieved, and if we go to the English League, they also got it in the last few matches that were unable to achieve victory. Pep Guardiola must rack his brains to restore his team's lost performance.
Manchester City has only gotten 5 points in their total UCL matches. It is true that Thebes club is not back to its feet and the players are getting demoralized with their poor performance over and over again. I don't think that they will have hope of qualifying to the round of 16. Juventus is not that consistent but they were able to defeat City on a clean sheet. I don't understand what's wrong with City because most of their injured players are back.
Their morale is disturbed by the series of negative results they get, and like it or not, it will certainly affect their performance in the next match.

I don't think they will be this bad this season, because in terms of squad, they are actually not too different and also still with the same coach. However, one of the influences is the absence of their mainstay players, that's what I think is very noticeable.

Guardiola's squad is like a deck of cards, missing the aces but still in the game.
City is playing this season without Rodri, It's a tough situation without key players like Rodri.
The team can not play well without elements that made it possible to outsmart others are no longer avail
It's a big challenge for any team to cope with such a significant absence
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on December 13, 2024, 08:46:34 PM
Guardiola's squad is like a deck of cards, missing the aces but still in the game.
City is playing this season without Rodri, It's a tough situation without key players like Rodri.
The team can not play well without elements that made it possible to outsmart others are no longer avail
It's a big challenge for any team to cope with such a significant absence
So Pep Guardiola shouldn't have to rely on Rodri even though he is an important player there are still other reserves who can fill his void, what about De Bruyne? Although he is not a defensive midfielder.

This is the mess that Pep Guardiola is in, he still can't overcome it maybe he is still trying hard to get his team back to the way it used to be, but right now it is indeed in a slump.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on December 13, 2024, 09:01:36 PM
Guardiola's squad is like a deck of cards, missing the aces but still in the game.
City is playing this season without Rodri, It's a tough situation without key players like Rodri.
The team can not play well without elements that made it possible to outsmart others are no longer avail
It's a big challenge for any team to cope with such a significant absence
So Pep Guardiola shouldn't have to rely on Rodri even though he is an important player there are still other reserves who can fill his void, what about De Bruyne? Although he is not a defensive midfielder.

This is the mess that Pep Guardiola is in, he still can't overcome it maybe he is still trying hard to get his team back to the way it used to be, but right now it is indeed in a slump.
It's not about Rodri but the entire team because the team currently lack creativity, motivation and hunger to play and win games pep has to try and bring hunger to the Manchester city team that was once dreaded by other clubs to come against there is something fundamental wrong with the team or maybe the players are tired of pep and they want him out of the team that is why they are playing this way, if not I don't see the reason why one of the best teams in the world just turned into a team where small teams can comfortable beat
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on December 13, 2024, 11:17:54 PM
I don't see the reason why one of the best teams in the world just turned into a team where small teams can comfortable beat
I am thinking out loud here because if Manchester City are out of the race and Real Madrid are not looking very convincing, which team do you think is in more of a position to win the competition even though it is too early to start spoeculating?

I am thinking Liverpool has a pretty good chance.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: joniboini on December 14, 2024, 06:51:28 AM
I am thinking out loud here because if Manchester City are out of the race and Real Madrid are not looking very convincing, which team do you think is in more of a position to win the competition even though it is too early to start spoeculating?
Liverpool is a safe bet. That being said I'm not really impressed with the way the play in the last 2 games. Not sure what's the issue but Slot also comments that their standard has dropped. It's definitely too much to ask them to play like the way they play against City every week, but I'd expect more from them. Maybe some players have issues with their confidence, or maybe the fatigue gets to them, but who knows? I believe they have a much better chance compared to Madrid and City as of now though. Hopefully they'll improve.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on December 14, 2024, 10:29:17 AM
I don't see the reason why one of the best teams in the world just turned into a team where small teams can comfortable beat
I am thinking out loud here because if Manchester City are out of the race and Real Madrid are not looking very convincing, which team do you think is in more of a position to win the competition even though it is too early to start spoeculating?

I am thinking Liverpool has a pretty good chance.
About Liverpool I think there is no doubt. But we have to remember that every season there are always surprises. We sometimes favor teams that look strong from the start. But in the end, the one who makes it to the final is sometimes not the team we expected for one of them.

The only interesting phenomenon in the UCL this season is what happened to the 3 big clubs who found it difficult. Namely Real Madrid, Man City and PSG. For some reason, these three teams are currently struggling to qualify for the playoffs and are not one of the teams that have been confirmed to qualify for the next stage. This is a strange phenomenon this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on December 14, 2024, 01:39:39 PM
Their morale is disturbed by the series of negative results they get, and like it or not, it will certainly affect their performance in the next match.

I don't think they will be this bad this season, because in terms of squad, they are actually not too different and also still with the same coach. However, one of the influences is the absence of their mainstay players, that's what I think is very noticeable.

Guardiola's squad is like a deck of cards, missing the aces but still in the game.
City is playing this season without Rodri, It's a tough situation without key players like Rodri.
The team can not play well without elements that made it possible to outsmart others are no longer avail
It's a big challenge for any team to cope with such a significant absence
Well some people say KDB is the key to Manchester City's game, and that's true because when they lost this player, Manchester City slipped a bit. But in a short time they were able to overcome it.

However, when Rodri was lost it was more pronounced, I don't mean to compare the two, because they both contributed. However, some people started to say that Rodri was the key to Manchester City's game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on December 14, 2024, 02:28:23 PM
Their morale is disturbed by the series of negative results they get, and like it or not, it will certainly affect their performance in the next match.

I don't think they will be this bad this season, because in terms of squad, they are actually not too different and also still with the same coach. However, one of the influences is the absence of their mainstay players, that's what I think is very noticeable.

Guardiola's squad is like a deck of cards, missing the aces but still in the game.
City is playing this season without Rodri, It's a tough situation without key players like Rodri.
The team can not play well without elements that made it possible to outsmart others are no longer avail
It's a big challenge for any team to cope with such a significant absence
Well some people say KDB is the key to Manchester City's game, and that's true because when they lost this player, Manchester City slipped a bit. But in a short time they were able to overcome it.

However, when Rodri was lost it was more pronounced, I don't mean to compare the two, because they both contributed. However, some people started to say that Rodri was the key to Manchester City's game.
Both player's are exceptional player's in Manchester city but let not compare because kdb has been the main engine room of Manchester city and I don't personally think that it's because of any of the players that they are currently struggling yes they players have there influence in the team but looking at the city situation critically I can say that they have been in their peak for a while and it's natural that they will experience this kind of situation so it will take a while before they will get back to their former glory, because even  if Rodri come back today Manchester city is going to still struggle
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on December 14, 2024, 08:39:40 PM
Guardiola's squad is like a deck of cards, missing the aces but still in the game.
City is playing this season without Rodri, It's a tough situation without key players like Rodri.
The team can not play well without elements that made it possible to outsmart others are no longer avail
It's a big challenge for any team to cope with such a significant absence
So Pep Guardiola shouldn't have to rely on Rodri even though he is an important player there are still other reserves who can fill his void, what about De Bruyne? Although he is not a defensive midfielder.

This is the mess that Pep Guardiola is in, he still can't overcome it maybe he is still trying hard to get his team back to the way it used to be, but right now it is indeed in a slump.

The team is not currently in form, that's the reality.
City’s depth is their strength, without the key players, even the best can struggle. Once those key players are back, City could go on a run. Pep's always been good at making comebacks.
A top manager like Pep doesn't give excuses, he gives solutions, and we all know the City team when all the players are available.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on December 15, 2024, 01:35:31 PM
Well some people say KDB is the key to Manchester City's game, and that's true because when they lost this player, Manchester City slipped a bit. But in a short time they were able to overcome it.

However, when Rodri was lost it was more pronounced, I don't mean to compare the two, because they both contributed. However, some people started to say that Rodri was the key to Manchester City's game.
Both player's are exceptional player's in Manchester city but let not compare because kdb has been the main engine room of Manchester city and I don't personally think that it's because of any of the players that they are currently struggling yes they players have there influence in the team but looking at the city situation critically I can say that they have been in their peak for a while and it's natural that they will experience this kind of situation so it will take a while before they will get back to their former glory, because even  if Rodri come back today Manchester city is going to still struggle
You are right, they were at their peak, especially when they won the Champions League for the first time, that was their peak. Well after that the decline was felt, and this season it is even more visible.

I am afraid this has something to do with the psychology of the players, I mean when they are at their peak, sometimes they do things they shouldn't do, like underestimating opponents and so on, and psychologically that can happen.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on December 15, 2024, 08:19:06 PM
Well some people say KDB is the key to Manchester City's game, and that's true because when they lost this player, Manchester City slipped a bit. But in a short time they were able to overcome it.

However, when Rodri was lost it was more pronounced, I don't mean to compare the two, because they both contributed. However, some people started to say that Rodri was the key to Manchester City's game.
Both player's are exceptional player's in Manchester city but let not compare because kdb has been the main engine room of Manchester city and I don't personally think that it's because of any of the players that they are currently struggling yes they players have there influence in the team but looking at the city situation critically I can say that they have been in their peak for a while and it's natural that they will experience this kind of situation so it will take a while before they will get back to their former glory, because even  if Rodri come back today Manchester city is going to still struggle
You are right, they were at their peak, especially when they won the Champions League for the first time, that was their peak. Well after that the decline was felt, and this season it is even more visible.

I am afraid this has something to do with the psychology of the players, I mean when they are at their peak, sometimes they do things they shouldn't do, like underestimating opponents and so on, and psychologically that can happen.
I don't think so, the problem is that most clubs have understood their game pattern and how to outsmart them on the field to take advantage of them. Pep needs to try a new game pattern and see if that will work for him. It's useless having all your players back and still losing. Imagine United won City today from one goal down.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on December 16, 2024, 02:21:59 PM

You are right, they were at their peak, especially when they won the Champions League for the first time, that was their peak. Well after that the decline was felt, and this season it is even more visible.

I am afraid this has something to do with the psychology of the players, I mean when they are at their peak, sometimes they do things they shouldn't do, like underestimating opponents and so on, and psychologically that can happen.
Your theory could be correct. And maybe it could have been like that at first. Or it could also be because this team is too used to good results, so when they experience bad results their self-confidence easily falls. Because they are not used to losing. So it is quite difficult to restore their self-confidence. This could happen not to the players but to the coach, namely Pep, who even looks quite burdened.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on December 16, 2024, 07:10:01 PM
Well some people say KDB is the key to Manchester City's game, and that's true because when they lost this player, Manchester City slipped a bit. But in a short time they were able to overcome it.

However, when Rodri was lost it was more pronounced, I don't mean to compare the two, because they both contributed. However, some people started to say that Rodri was the key to Manchester City's game.
Both player's are exceptional player's in Manchester city but let not compare because kdb has been the main engine room of Manchester city and I don't personally think that it's because of any of the players that they are currently struggling yes they players have there influence in the team but looking at the city situation critically I can say that they have been in their peak for a while and it's natural that they will experience this kind of situation so it will take a while before they will get back to their former glory, because even  if Rodri come back today Manchester city is going to still struggle
You are right, they were at their peak, especially when they won the Champions League for the first time, that was their peak. Well after that the decline was felt, and this season it is even more visible.

I am afraid this has something to do with the psychology of the players, I mean when they are at their peak, sometimes they do things they shouldn't do, like underestimating opponents and so on, and psychologically that can happen.
Pep really needs to get his players psychological state back to before as they seems to be confused and down casted psychologically speaking because they are losing self esteem and confidence as the day is going by just imagine Manchester City losing a match that they where already a goal ahead to Manchester United of all teams that are fighting for their survival in the Premier League and even in Europe
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on December 17, 2024, 07:44:09 AM
Well some people say KDB is the key to Manchester City's game, and that's true because when they lost this player, Manchester City slipped a bit. But in a short time they were able to overcome it.

However, when Rodri was lost it was more pronounced, I don't mean to compare the two, because they both contributed. However, some people started to say that Rodri was the key to Manchester City's game.
Both player's are exceptional player's in Manchester city but let not compare because kdb has been the main engine room of Manchester city and I don't personally think that it's because of any of the players that they are currently struggling yes they players have there influence in the team but looking at the city situation critically I can say that they have been in their peak for a while and it's natural that they will experience this kind of situation so it will take a while before they will get back to their former glory, because even  if Rodri come back today Manchester city is going to still struggle
You are right, they were at their peak, especially when they won the Champions League for the first time, that was their peak. Well after that the decline was felt, and this season it is even more visible.

I am afraid this has something to do with the psychology of the players, I mean when they are at their peak, sometimes they do things they shouldn't do, like underestimating opponents and so on, and psychologically that can happen.
I don't think so, the problem is that most clubs have understood their game pattern and how to outsmart them on the field to take advantage of them. Pep needs to try a new game pattern and see if that will work for him. It's useless having all your players back and still losing. Imagine United won City today from one goal down.
Exactly. Most teams have to understand their game patterns. Pep Guardiola never knew a time like this would come when teams will study them, and win them in a match like a mediocre team. Their yesterday's lost match to Manchester United was the height of it, for Pep Guardiola to think of what other football tactics he would introduce Manchester City to because it is no longer the excuse that his key players are injured because they are all back except for Rodri
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on December 17, 2024, 08:17:34 AM
Pep really needs to get his players psychological state back to before as they seems to be confused and down casted psychologically speaking because they are losing self esteem and confidence as the day is going by just imagine Manchester City losing a match that they where already a goal ahead to Manchester United of all teams that are fighting for their survival in the Premier League and even in Europe
I think Pep and the Man City players are both experiencing psychological pressure. Because everyone is definitely not used to bad situations like what happened this season. Because this team has been in its glory days for too long. So when this team is in a bad situation, we immediately see that the team's psychology is experiencing a decline. The crisis of confidence in this team must be immediately restored. If not, Man City could really fail to advance to the next stage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pieppiep on December 17, 2024, 12:59:17 PM
I think Pep and the Man City players are both experiencing psychological pressure. Because everyone is definitely not used to bad situations like what happened this season. Because this team has been in its glory days for too long. So when this team is in a bad situation, we immediately see that the team's psychology is experiencing a decline. The crisis of confidence in this team must be immediately restored. If not, Man City could really fail to advance to the next stage.
The main thing to think about is not to be the best, but to be together with the team at a bad moment and to wish to continue together. We understand this each year is a new narrative and oftentimes coaching success is defined by how they respond to various challenges. Man City have a great deal of quality and experience, and that is always handy to have when coming through experiences such as the ones above. When everyone encourages one another and stays in touch and keeps on believing in what we are doing, this team should get back to the best. In my opinion this is a test that, when confronted with hard work and belief, can be the genesis of something larger.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on December 18, 2024, 08:44:07 AM
I doubt Man city for this season. But I hope they can at least qualify for the next stage even though they have to go through the play-offs first. And actually this week Man City really faced a tough challenge. because they have to collect full points so they can stay in the play-off zone. But it will be a little difficult with their current condition considering that the team they will face is also a strong team, namely PSG.

Luckily, PSG also experienced a series of poor results in the UCL. So I will not favor anyone in this match. Because for me these two teams make me doubt.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on December 18, 2024, 12:59:11 PM
I doubt Man city for this season. But I hope they can at least qualify for the next stage even though they have to go through the play-offs first. And actually this week Man City really faced a tough challenge. because they have to collect full points so they can stay in the play-off zone. But it will be a little difficult with their current condition considering that the team they will face is also a strong team, namely PSG.

Luckily, PSG also experienced a series of poor results in the UCL. So I will not favor anyone in this match. Because for me these two teams make me doubt.
I think city should focus more on getting back to their form than planning of qualifying for the next round in the champion's league because with the way their current form is and where they find them self it's clear that they can't go far in this year's campaign so they should forget about the champions league and focus more on home and how they can finish at a good position in the premier league so they can play in the champions league next season as they are in a very bad form currently and even if they make it to the playoffs the probability of them qualifying from the playoff will be hard
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on December 18, 2024, 01:49:37 PM
I doubt Man city for this season. But I hope they can at least qualify for the next stage even though they have to go through the play-offs first. And actually this week Man City really faced a tough challenge. because they have to collect full points so they can stay in the play-off zone. But it will be a little difficult with their current condition considering that the team they will face is also a strong team, namely PSG.

Luckily, PSG also experienced a series of poor results in the UCL. So I will not favor anyone in this match. Because for me these two teams make me doubt.

I also have doubts, in the Premier League he has sunk to -9 points from the top
I don't think there are any particular problems in Manchester City so even worse, I really don't understand this absolutely negative trend
maybe the players are simply tired
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on December 18, 2024, 03:13:40 PM

You are right, they were at their peak, especially when they won the Champions League for the first time, that was their peak. Well after that the decline was felt, and this season it is even more visible.

I am afraid this has something to do with the psychology of the players, I mean when they are at their peak, sometimes they do things they shouldn't do, like underestimating opponents and so on, and psychologically that can happen.
Your theory could be correct. And maybe it could have been like that at first. Or it could also be because this team is too used to good results, so when they experience bad results their self-confidence easily falls. Because they are not used to losing. So it is quite difficult to restore their self-confidence. This could happen not to the players but to the coach, namely Pep, who even looks quite burdened.
yes, that could be the first trigger and after that they have some more problems. Like you said about Pep for example, he could be under a lot of pressure, although I am not so sure because he is a very experienced coach.

But the opportunity is still there, they have to evaluate everything before it gets worse. It is never too late because the competition will continue every year.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on December 18, 2024, 08:27:35 PM
I doubt Man city for this season. But I hope they can at least qualify for the next stage even though they have to go through the play-offs first. And actually this week Man City really faced a tough challenge. because they have to collect full points so they can stay in the play-off zone. But it will be a little difficult with their current condition considering that the team they will face is also a strong team, namely PSG.

Luckily, PSG also experienced a series of poor results in the UCL. So I will not favor anyone in this match. Because for me these two teams make me doubt.

I also have doubts, in the Premier League he has sunk to -9 points from the top
I don't think there are any particular problems in Manchester City so even worse, I really don't understand this absolutely negative trend
maybe the players are simply tired
I think that their problem is that clubs have known how to play City and they're now vulnerable to their opponents because their opponents know their weak point. If not, I don't see any reason why the problem isn't solved yet despite that most of the players are back from injury.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on December 18, 2024, 09:53:48 PM
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I think Pep and the Man City players are both experiencing psychological pressure. Because everyone is definitely not used to bad situations like what happened this season. Because this team has been in its glory days for too long. So when this team is in a bad situation, we immediately see that the team's psychology is experiencing a decline. The crisis of confidence in this team must be immediately restored. If not, Man City could really fail to advance to the next stage.
It's not that they are not used to bad situations because we've also seen them struggle in the past seasons but still recovered towards the end and won the title. I can agree that winning for so long probably made some of the long time players like Halaand become lazy and unmotivated. I've seen a video analysis on how they lost to Man United in the Premier League and it highlighted how poor he was.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on December 19, 2024, 12:33:23 PM
at the moment I see a slightly difficult situation for all the big teams in Europe
Manchester City went backwards
Real Madrid has several problems, including Mbappe's injury
Even Inter, Milan and Juventus in Italy are not doing well at all

it becomes difficult to understand who could win 
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on December 19, 2024, 02:06:47 PM
at the moment I see a slightly difficult situation for all the big teams in Europe
Manchester City went backwards
Real Madrid has several problems, including Mbappe's injury
Even Inter, Milan and Juventus in Italy are not doing well at all

it becomes difficult to understand who could win
I think with the current position of teams in the champions league this season it's still too far for us to be talking about who is favorite and who is going to win because with the current form that we are seeing almost all big teams are struggling and is in a very dicey situation, but let say after the playoffs we can really talk about who is likely to win based on the performance of the teams that played in the play off we still have a long way to go and we are not even up to the half of the footballing season
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on December 20, 2024, 12:56:24 PM
at the moment I see a slightly difficult situation for all the big teams in Europe
Manchester City went backwards
Real Madrid has several problems, including Mbappe's injury
Even Inter, Milan and Juventus in Italy are not doing well at all

it becomes difficult to understand who could win
Yes you are right, some big teams that are favored have internal problems that affect their performance. I rarely see this happening at the same time, but this season I see it.

Maybe this is a bad season for some teams that have problems at the same time. Even though in terms of preparation at the beginning of the season we saw that they had made good preparations, but this is football, sometimes it cannot be predicted.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on December 20, 2024, 01:11:04 PM
at the moment I see a slightly difficult situation for all the big teams in Europe
Manchester City went backwards
Real Madrid has several problems, including Mbappe's injury
Even Inter, Milan and Juventus in Italy are not doing well at all

it becomes difficult to understand who could win
The new system or new format also makes the results more unpredictable this season. And what was most unexpected was seeing some of the strongest clubs struggling to qualify for the play-offs. This seems like a joke but this is what is happening. Man City and PSG will even fight in the next match and it looks like one of them could fail to qualify for the Play-offs if they lose. Meanwhile, we know that these two teams are one of the strongest here. And yes, Real Madrid, which should be the strongest team here, can only occupy the play-off zone and have to fight through the play-off round to get to the next stage. What an unexpected season. And I didn't even know there would be any surprises, especially in the next stage. The worst thing is if these teams fail in the play-off round.  ;D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on December 20, 2024, 01:48:18 PM
at the moment I see a slightly difficult situation for all the big teams in Europe
Manchester City went backwards
Real Madrid has several problems, including Mbappe's injury
Even Inter, Milan and Juventus in Italy are not doing well at all

it becomes difficult to understand who could win
The new system or new format also makes the results more unpredictable this season. And what was most unexpected was seeing some of the strongest clubs struggling to qualify for the play-offs. This seems like a joke but this is what is happening. Man City and PSG will even fight in the next match and it looks like one of them could fail to qualify for the Play-offs if they lose. Meanwhile, we know that these two teams are one of the strongest here. And yes, Real Madrid, which should be the strongest team here, can only occupy the play-off zone and have to fight through the play-off round to get to the next stage. What an unexpected season. And I didn't even know there would be any surprises, especially in the next stage. The worst thing is if these teams fail in the play-off round.  ;D
The new format has really exposed the the flaws of a lot of Big teams as they are currently struggling to qualify for the next rounds the the previous format you will see one big team in a group of four so they will easily qualify for the next round easily but this season the table has turned for a lot of Big teams because you will have to play a lot of teams to get off the play off zone for you a team to automatically qualify for the next rounds I for see either Manchester City or PSG leaving the competition early this year
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on December 20, 2024, 01:52:58 PM
The new format has really exposed the the flaws of a lot of Big teams as they are currently struggling to qualify for the next rounds the the previous format you will see one big team in a group of four so they will easily qualify for the next round easily but this season the table has turned for a lot of Big teams because you will have to play a lot of teams to get off the play off zone for you a team to automatically qualify for the next rounds I for see either Manchester City or PSG leaving the competition early this year

The new format made us realize that not everyone that pass the group stage is actually that strong, they just happen to be favour because the teams in that group are not as strong as many expected but now that all teams has to battle together, they can no longer hide and take advantage of minor clubs anymore, that's why even the previous tops teams are now struggling.

Another thing you also need to consider is the fact that there is a play off place big enough for a second chance for many teams. Unlike when third place in the group are the ones that used to qualify.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on December 22, 2024, 05:06:12 PM
Once again Paris Saint Germain's performance in the Champions League this season is not good, they are now in an unfavorable position and even they have to get out of the top 24. This is clearly not good for them.

On the other hand, teams from the same league can actually perform well this season, LOSC and Brest for example. Even the two teams I mentioned are in a safer place in the top 8. This is clearly a very reverse difference when looking at them in the Domestic League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on December 22, 2024, 09:31:37 PM
Once again Paris Saint Germain's performance in the Champions League this season is not good, they are now in an unfavorable position and even they have to get out of the top 24. This is clearly not good for them.

On the other hand, teams from the same league can actually perform well this season, LOSC and Brest for example. Even the two teams I mentioned are in a safer place in the top 8. This is clearly a very reverse difference when looking at them in the Domestic League.
In my opining, PSG opportunity qualify to knock out round directly have been over after the achievement until games week 6 and have two difficult matches left. but not close opportunity get one spot for playoff round depend the next match result against Manchester City, if can beat City have bigger opportunity for playoff round spot but the last match opponent team Stuttgart have the same position with PSG reach to knock out round by finish on playoff round spot standings.
In this season, PSG performance in Champion League not quit well yet just winning 2 of 6 matches is not good result for PSG if want secure to 16 of round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on December 25, 2024, 06:30:37 PM
Once again Paris Saint Germain's performance in the Champions League this season is not good, they are now in an unfavorable position and even they have to get out of the top 24. This is clearly not good for them.

On the other hand, teams from the same league can actually perform well this season, LOSC and Brest for example. Even the two teams I mentioned are in a safer place in the top 8. This is clearly a very reverse difference when looking at them in the Domestic League.
In my opining, PSG opportunity qualify to knock out round directly have been over after the achievement until games week 6 and have two difficult matches left. but not close opportunity get one spot for playoff round depend the next match result against Manchester City, if can beat City have bigger opportunity for playoff round spot but the last match opponent team Stuttgart have the same position with PSG reach to knock out round by finish on playoff round spot standings.
In this season, PSG performance in Champion League not quit well yet just winning 2 of 6 matches is not good result for PSG if want secure to 16 of round.
Yes, they still have a chance to at least be in the play-off round even though they have to fight tooth and nail to get a win in the last 2 matches. But I also won't be surprised when in the end they have to fail to win and bury their hopes of being in the last 16 and once again they have to fail to compete in the Champions League.
They have to fix and evaluate everything, because in the Champions League they are not a team that can be said to be special.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 27, 2024, 02:42:57 AM

Yes, they still have a chance to at least be in the play-off round even though they have to fight tooth and nail to get a win in the last 2 matches. But I also won't be surprised when in the end they have to fail to win and bury their hopes of being in the last 16 and once again they have to fail to compete in the Champions League.
They have to fix and evaluate everything, because in the Champions League they are not a team that can be said to be special.

I can only say one thing, with respect to PSG, they have to play as if it were a final, or there is another way, if they do not play that way things will hardly go well for them, if PSG draw it is the same as losing, they have to win, the tremendous pressure that Luis Enrique must be feeling at this moment is not normal, it is very strong, that is why I think he has to do something urgent, and the most urgent thing is to win these games that they have left, because there is no other way, mathematically they have a chance but it is very difficult to achieve it although it is not impossible.



Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on December 27, 2024, 01:43:34 PM
The new system or new format also makes the results more unpredictable this season. And what was most unexpected was seeing some of the strongest clubs struggling to qualify for the play-offs. This seems like a joke but this is what is happening. Man City and PSG will even fight in the next match and it looks like one of them could fail to qualify for the Play-offs if they lose. Meanwhile, we know that these two teams are one of the strongest here. And yes, Real Madrid, which should be the strongest team here, can only occupy the play-off zone and have to fight through the play-off round to get to the next stage. What an unexpected season. And I didn't even know there would be any surprises, especially in the next stage. The worst thing is if these teams fail in the play-off round.  ;D
The new format has really exposed the the flaws of a lot of Big teams as they are currently struggling to qualify for the next rounds the the previous format you will see one big team in a group of four so they will easily qualify for the next round easily but this season the table has turned for a lot of Big teams because you will have to play a lot of teams to get off the play off zone for you a team to automatically qualify for the next rounds I for see either Manchester City or PSG leaving the competition early this year
And actually this season I think it's quite surprising. Because looking at the current UCL standings is really hard to believe. Because most of the strong teams are struggling in the play-off zone, even PSG is outside the Play-off zone. Real Madrid, Man City, Juventus AC Milan, Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid and Dortmund. All of them are currently in the play-off zone. And the new format seems to have succeeded in bringing a surprise to everyone.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on December 27, 2024, 02:46:30 PM

Yes, they still have a chance to at least be in the play-off round even though they have to fight tooth and nail to get a win in the last 2 matches. But I also won't be surprised when in the end they have to fail to win and bury their hopes of being in the last 16 and once again they have to fail to compete in the Champions League.
They have to fix and evaluate everything, because in the Champions League they are not a team that can be said to be special.

I can only say one thing, with respect to PSG, they have to play as if it were a final, or there is another way, if they do not play that way things will hardly go well for them, if PSG draw it is the same as losing, they have to win, the tremendous pressure that Luis Enrique must be feeling at this moment is not normal, it is very strong, that is why I think he has to do something urgent, and the most urgent thing is to win these games that they have left, because there is no other way, mathematically they have a chance but it is very difficult to achieve it although it is not impossible.
I agree with you, sometimes a draw is like a defeat and that applies to Paris Saint Germain right now. There is no other choice for them than to win.

I also sometimes wonder at them, why they always fail in the Champions League, although on some occasions I can also find reasons why they always have to fail. What is even more unfortunate is when they cannot maximize their financially healthy condition.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: joniboini on December 28, 2024, 07:17:47 AM
I also sometimes wonder at them, why they always fail in the Champions League, although on some occasions I can also find reasons why they always have to fail. What is even more unfortunate is when they cannot maximize their financially healthy condition.
Yeah, I saw at least 5 videos talking about PSG failures a few months ago. I think people are just throwing darts because they don't know the inside story. Some people argue that their squad building is terrible, individual players can't work together due to their ego (especially when they have Neymar, Mbappe, etc), the coach can't control the dressing room because the players don't trust him, etc. I guess all of them can be true, but you can also argue that they got unlucky at times. That's just how football is. Somehow result is the deciding factor even though you can't really control the scoreline, especially in the Champions League. CMIIW.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on December 28, 2024, 03:28:26 PM
I also sometimes wonder at them, why they always fail in the Champions League, although on some occasions I can also find reasons why they always have to fail. What is even more unfortunate is when they cannot maximize their financially healthy condition.
Yeah, I saw at least 5 videos talking about PSG failures a few months ago. I think people are just throwing darts because they don't know the inside story. Some people argue that their squad building is terrible, individual players can't work together due to their ego (especially when they have Neymar, Mbappe, etc), the coach can't control the dressing room because the players don't trust him, etc. I guess all of them can be true, but you can also argue that they got unlucky at times. That's just how football is. Somehow result is the deciding factor even though you can't really control the scoreline, especially in the Champions League. CMIIW.
Yes what you said could be the reason why they keep failing in the Champions League, including luck. Because like it or not sometimes luck works in football.

Although it might be considered a reason that will come for other reasons, but we also can't eliminate it from one of the factors. Looking back when they had the 3 best players in the attack line, logically it was a very big opportunity for them, but in football logic doesn't always work.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on December 28, 2024, 07:41:55 PM
at the moment I see a slightly difficult situation for all the big teams in Europe
Manchester City went backwards
Real Madrid has several problems, including Mbappe's injury
Even Inter, Milan and Juventus in Italy are not doing well at all

it becomes difficult to understand who could win
I think the current struggling form of most big teams in Europe is due to improved performance from the traditional small teams, these teams have improved and strengthen their squad and has become more ambitious in the various leagues and the big teams didn't see it coming that is why they are struggling to find their form in their respective leagues
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on December 28, 2024, 09:10:19 PM
And actually this season I think it's quite surprising. Because looking at the current UCL standings is really hard to believe. Because most of the strong teams are struggling in the play-off zone, even PSG is outside the Play-off zone. Real Madrid, Man City, Juventus AC Milan, Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid and Dortmund. All of them are currently in the play-off zone. And the new format seems to have succeeded in bringing a surprise to everyone.
There may be more big teams in the playoffs now because of the difficulty of competing in the UCL with the new format.
Maybe only Liverpool and a few other teams will qualify while other teams will try hard to qualify in the playoffs.
Although 2 matches are left now and which teams will survive the playoffs.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on December 29, 2024, 12:05:24 AM
And actually this season I think it's quite surprising. Because looking at the current UCL standings is really hard to believe. Because most of the strong teams are struggling in the play-off zone, even PSG is outside the Play-off zone. Real Madrid, Man City, Juventus AC Milan, Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid and Dortmund. All of them are currently in the play-off zone. And the new format seems to have succeeded in bringing a surprise to everyone.
There may be more big teams in the playoffs now because of the difficulty of competing in the UCL with the new format.
Maybe only Liverpool and a few other teams will qualify while other teams will try hard to qualify in the playoffs.
Although 2 matches are left now and which teams will survive the playoffs.
Well that's right. But if you look again at this time, the difference in points between 3rd place and the ranking of the teams in the playoff zone is actually really thin. So it's possible that the results of 1 match will quickly change the ranking. Because the difference between 3rd place and 12th place is only 1 point. with rank 14 also only 2 points. Which means one match result can make a drastic change between rankings 3 to 14. The last two matches will be really hot, I think.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on December 29, 2024, 06:15:45 PM
Well that's right. But if you look again at this time, the difference in points between 3rd place and the ranking of the teams in the playoff zone is actually really thin. So it's possible that the results of 1 match will quickly change the ranking. Because the difference between 3rd place and 12th place is only 1 point. with rank 14 also only 2 points. Which means one match result can make a drastic change between rankings 3 to 14. The last two matches will be really hot, I think.
clearly, the result of 1 match will be able to change the standings of several teams, it can be seen when the distance between their points is not far from each other. This makes the competition more intense because they have to ensure victory to ensure their position remains safe and can even be in a better position.

now there are only 2 matches left, it will be a determinant for several teams, who will qualify automatically and who will be thrown into the play-off round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on December 29, 2024, 06:45:55 PM
Well that's right. But if you look again at this time, the difference in points between 3rd place and the ranking of the teams in the playoff zone is actually really thin. So it's possible that the results of 1 match will quickly change the ranking. Because the difference between 3rd place and 12th place is only 1 point. with rank 14 also only 2 points. Which means one match result can make a drastic change between rankings 3 to 14. The last two matches will be really hot, I think.
The game week 7 result matches we can easily for predictable about which one teams have bigger opportunity will set playoff round standings or reach the top eight position. Latest standings position only Liverpool and Barcelona have secure their spot as top eight standings teams finish but the other teams have thin points difference and difficult for predicting will get slot for qualifying to knock out round.
Looking left two opponent team, I think Inter Milan favorable team for directly qualifying to knock out round because have easily opponent teams against Sparta Praha and Monaco.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on December 29, 2024, 08:27:52 PM
And actually this season I think it's quite surprising. Because looking at the current UCL standings is really hard to believe. Because most of the strong teams are struggling in the play-off zone, even PSG is outside the Play-off zone. Real Madrid, Man City, Juventus AC Milan, Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid and Dortmund. All of them are currently in the play-off zone. And the new format seems to have succeeded in bringing a surprise to everyone.
There may be more big teams in the playoffs now because of the difficulty of competing in the UCL with the new format.
Maybe only Liverpool and a few other teams will qualify while other teams will try hard to qualify in the playoffs.
Although 2 matches are left now and which teams will survive the playoffs.
Well that's right. But if you look again at this time, the difference in points between 3rd place and the ranking of the teams in the playoff zone is actually really thin. So it's possible that the results of 1 match will quickly change the ranking. Because the difference between 3rd place and 12th place is only 1 point. with rank 14 also only 2 points. Which means one match result can make a drastic change between rankings 3 to 14. The last two matches will be really hot, I think.

16 points from a possible 24 would almost certainly be enough to finish in the top eight, guaranteeing a last-16 spot in the new year, five wins and a draw from eight matches, or other combinations.
So the teams will target at least three wins from eight to give them the best chance of reaching the Champions League knockout rounds.
And I agree, The last two matches will be hot
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 29, 2024, 09:54:32 PM
I agree with you, sometimes a draw is like a defeat and that applies to Paris Saint Germain right now. There is no other choice for them than to win.

I also sometimes wonder at them, why they always fail in the Champions League, although on some occasions I can also find reasons why they always have to fail. What is even more unfortunate is when they cannot maximize their financially healthy condition.

I think about this is what many of us call "lack of luck" and that is something that is very valid, when they were with Messi and Neymar together with Mbappé they did not win any UCL, so if these monsters did nothing and that being almost the best trident in the world, then nothing can be done, for me it was lack of luck, for the others I don't know, they played badly, they did not do badly, in view of this this is what I conclude, and for now they still Continue counting on that same luck, I see them very far from being able to get a UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on December 31, 2024, 07:42:43 PM
Plenty of time till the next round, scheduled for 21st/22nd January, but we only have two rounds to go in the first-ever league stage.
I don't expect there to be any major changes in the top 8 (which will progress to the next round without play-offs). Some ay Brest, currently ranked 7th, doesn't belong there and expect them to drop down, but I think they can handle Shakhtar Donetsk in the next round, and even if they lose to Real in the final round, they should still have enough points to go through.
Similar thing with Aston Villa. Their Premier League performance was far from impressive recently, but the remaining UCL games are not the hardest ones (Monaco away and Celtic at home) so they'll probably earn at least 3-4 points which should be enough to stay in the top 8.

LOSC Lille might struggle to hold on to their current 8th place, as they're playing their next game against Liverpool, who are unstoppable lately, but, as the British team is already guaranteed to go through to the next round, they might go easier on the French.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on December 31, 2024, 07:53:24 PM
I think about this is what many of us call "lack of luck" and that is something that is very valid, when they were with Messi and Neymar together with Mbappé they did not win any UCL, so if these monsters did nothing and that being almost the best trident in the world, then nothing can be done, for me it was lack of luck, for the others I don't know, they played badly, they did not do badly, in view of this this is what I conclude, and for now they still Continue counting on that same luck, I see them very far from being able to get a UCL.

Some combinations aren't necessarily in my opinion. PSG has money to give obviously otherwise I don't see any reason why they have to combine Messi and Mbape with Neymar, it was a bad combination because we Messi is a light since he started his football career and Mbape been lucky to win the World cup at young age has alot of hype around him, the comparism to Messi and disrespect was too much and I'm glad he left after 2 years.

It's the same reason Real Madrid are having difficult time now, that club doesn't need Mbape but they forcedly take him as free transfer just to make it looks like they are not desperate but they are, that's why the team is also struggling now, when you have too much of I too know players, you will have under performance.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on December 31, 2024, 07:57:48 PM
I agree with you, sometimes a draw is like a defeat and that applies to Paris Saint Germain right now. There is no other choice for them than to win.

I also sometimes wonder at them, why they always fail in the Champions League, although on some occasions I can also find reasons why they always have to fail. What is even more unfortunate is when they cannot maximize their financially healthy condition.

I think about this is what many of us call "lack of luck" and that is something that is very valid, when they were with Messi and Neymar together with Mbappé they did not win any UCL, so if these monsters did nothing and that being almost the best trident in the world, then nothing can be done, for me it was lack of luck, for the others I don't know, they played badly, they did not do badly, in view of this this is what I conclude, and for now they still Continue counting on that same luck, I see them very far from being able to get a UCL.
I don't think it's lack of luck, because during the time of Mbappe, Messi and Neymar in the club, they didn't go far in UCL. It's lack of commitment to take UCL serious so that they can build the team to the standards of UCL strong clubs. UCL is bigger than PSG, so they should improve their performance if they want to win UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pieppiep on December 31, 2024, 08:26:14 PM
I agree with you, sometimes a draw is like a defeat and that applies to Paris Saint Germain right now. There is no other choice for them than to win.

I also sometimes wonder at them, why they always fail in the Champions League, although on some occasions I can also find reasons why they always have to fail. What is even more unfortunate is when they cannot maximize their financially healthy condition.

I think about this is what many of us call "lack of luck" and that is something that is very valid, when they were with Messi and Neymar together with Mbappé they did not win any UCL, so if these monsters did nothing and that being almost the best trident in the world, then nothing can be done, for me it was lack of luck, for the others I don't know, they played badly, they did not do badly, in view of this this is what I conclude, and for now they still Continue counting on that same luck, I see them very far from being able to get a UCL.
I don't think it's lack of luck, because during the time of Mbappe, Messi and Neymar in the club, they didn't go far in UCL. It's lack of commitment to take UCL serious so that they can build the team to the standards of UCL strong clubs. UCL is bigger than PSG, so they should improve their performance if they want to win UCL.
Fierce competition requires that such a problem always raises high-quality consistency, effective teamwork, and a mature approach at each stage. The strength of a team is not only the combination of the famous sportsmen into the team’s membership list, but also the co-ordination of the whole club into a single system which has a specific aim to achieve. Each player has his partner and every coach, success is achieved often through how well one can handle so much pressure while still being able to work hard. To pursue the possibility to win this honourable title one should strive for further improvement of the game to not only on par with the opponent, but to overwhelm him. With such spirit, each team should be able to write a proud storey in history.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 01, 2025, 05:48:28 PM
And I agree, The last two matches will be hot

For me the most crucial games will be for Madrid and PSG, who are on the tightrope, well PSG even more so Madrid did get some fresh air when they won, but they can't compete any more. They have to win everything that comes their way if they want to go through, because they don't have a direct pass and a team like Madrid shouldn't be left out, that's something that many expect, so in view of this these games won't be normal, they will be finals for them, or well at least that's how I see them. I think Ancestilli is clear about that, as is Luis Enrique with PSG.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on January 01, 2025, 06:04:15 PM
Well that's right. But if you look again at this time, the difference in points between 3rd place and the ranking of the teams in the playoff zone is actually really thin. So it's possible that the results of 1 match will quickly change the ranking. Because the difference between 3rd place and 12th place is only 1 point. with rank 14 also only 2 points. Which means one match result can make a drastic change between rankings 3 to 14. The last two matches will be really hot, I think.
clearly, the result of 1 match will be able to change the standings of several teams, it can be seen when the distance between their points is not far from each other. This makes the competition more intense because they have to ensure victory to ensure their position remains safe and can even be in a better position.

now there are only 2 matches left, it will be a determinant for several teams, who will qualify automatically and who will be thrown into the play-off round.
Yes, and the remaining two matches will feel like a final match for some teams who are struggling to qualify for the Play-off round like PSG. And in the middle ranks everyone will fight to get up to 8th place so they can qualify without having to go through the play-off round. I don't know how but I'm starting to like the new format of UCL now. Because the atmosphere becomes more exciting and more unpredictable.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 02, 2025, 12:38:24 AM
Some combinations aren't necessarily in my opinion. PSG has money to give obviously otherwise I don't see any reason why they have to combine Messi and Mbape with Neymar, it was a bad combination because we Messi is a light since he started his football career and Mbape been lucky to win the World cup at young age has alot of hype around him, the comparism to Messi and disrespect was too much and I'm glad he left after 2 years.

It's the same reason Real Madrid are having difficult time now, that club doesn't need Mbape but they forcedly take him as free transfer just to make it looks like they are not desperate but they are, that's why the team is also struggling now, when you have too much of I too know players, you will have under performance.
Well that's an excellent point of view and what you say is valid because Madrid's performance isn't very good, I don't know if you remember when Madrid had Zidane, Ronaldo, Beckham and others who were very good, Barcelona beat them because they only had one star and it was Dinho, not even Messi, because Messi was just starting, Messi only started to shine when Dinho left, that's when Messi began to be seen and to become what he is, but why? Because Barcelona played for him, on the other hand MADRID Ancelotti has Mbappé as his savior and that's something I don't agree with , I really hope they move forward.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on January 02, 2025, 01:54:34 PM
clearly, the result of 1 match will be able to change the standings of several teams, it can be seen when the distance between their points is not far from each other. This makes the competition more intense because they have to ensure victory to ensure their position remains safe and can even be in a better position.

now there are only 2 matches left, it will be a determinant for several teams, who will qualify automatically and who will be thrown into the play-off round.
Yes, and the remaining two matches will feel like a final match for some teams who are struggling to qualify for the Play-off round like PSG. And in the middle ranks everyone will fight to get up to 8th place so they can qualify without having to go through the play-off round. I don't know how but I'm starting to like the new format of UCL now. Because the atmosphere becomes more exciting and more unpredictable.
Yes, you could say that, it's like a final match where some teams can't lose if they want to be in the next round, or at least they can qualify automatically.

In this new format, the Champions League forces teams to compete with all the other teams in the early rounds. This is different from the previous format where in the old format, there were only 4 teams competing to be in the last 16.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on January 02, 2025, 02:50:31 PM
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In this new format, the Champions League forces teams to compete with all the other teams in the early rounds. This is different from the previous format where in the old format, there were only 4 teams competing to be in the last 16.
Yeah, this is good for advertisers and maybe to most spectators. Personally, I prefer the old format because I find it more competitive. Less games also means they cannot slack around. The current set up allows top teams to take it easy from the early rounds because there are many games to take points.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on January 02, 2025, 03:48:28 PM
Yes, you could say that, it's like a final match where some teams can't lose if they want to be in the next round, or at least they can qualify automatically.

In this new format, the Champions League forces teams to compete with all the other teams in the early rounds. This is different from the previous format where in the old format, there were only 4 teams competing to be in the last 16.
New format of UEFA Champion League have to play until 8 games and each teams will face difference opponent teams since first games weeks until the last games weeks. Its one unique side of new Champion League format although have many complaint before every team have to play until 8 matches than old format just playing 6 matches only.
I think new format looks fair and every teams have the same opportunity with face any top teams since first until the last games week, teams have collected many points get opportunity for directly qualify to knock out round and bad result for top teams after games week 6 many teams drop to bottom place standing awhile.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on January 02, 2025, 03:59:57 PM
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Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on January 02, 2025, 04:10:22 PM
For me the most crucial games will be for Madrid and PSG, who are on the tightrope, well PSG even more so Madrid did get some fresh air when they won, but they can't compete any more. They have to win everything that comes their way if they want to go through, because they don't have a direct pass and a team like Madrid shouldn't be left out, that's something that many expect, so in view of this these games won't be normal, they will be finals for them, or well at least that's how I see them. I think Ancestilli is clear about that, as is Luis Enrique with PSG.
Currently, without us realizing it, we have been discussing more about the teams fighting to win tickets to the play-off round. And most of the teams currently in the play-off zone are strong teams. It's quite ironic and that makes this season difficult to understand. And the definite answer will begin to appear after the seventh match. And PSG they have to really win the match if they want to enter the play-off zone. Because if they lose, PSG will remain outside the play-off zone and it could even make PSG fail more quickly if all the teams currently in the play-off zone manage to win. About Real Madrid, actually the result of the 7th match will still make them safe in the play-off zone whether they lose or win. It's just that if they win, Real Madrid will be certain to qualify for the play-offs and will fight for the next stage.

PSG seems unlucky because in their 7th match they have to face Man City. And I think PSG could even lose even though Man City is not at their best either.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 03, 2025, 01:40:52 AM
PSG seems unlucky because in their 7th match they have to face Man City. And I think PSG could even lose even though Man City is not at their best either.

I really hope this doesn't happen, I see that PSG is much better than City, although of course we have to remember that things are not going well for City right now, in their local league they are worse than PSG, so I think that this match will be very balanced if we base ourselves on levels, that is why I don't see so much complication for this team, if PSG wins they would be demonstrating many things, even in their own local league, but there is still a long way to go and I want to see how things develop.

For me it is easy, City is not well, and they do not get out of their crises so quickly, it is already very well demonstrated.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on January 03, 2025, 12:06:43 PM
PSG seems unlucky because in their 7th match they have to face Man City. And I think PSG could even lose even though Man City is not at their best either.

I really hope this doesn't happen, I see that PSG is much better than City, although of course we have to remember that things are not going well for City right now, in their local league they are worse than PSG, so I think that this match will be very balanced if we base ourselves on levels, that is why I don't see so much complication for this team, if PSG wins they would be demonstrating many things, even in their own local league, but there is still a long way to go and I want to see how things develop.

For me it is easy, City is not well, and they do not get out of their crises so quickly, it is already very well demonstrated.

PSG and City desperately need a win to finish in the last eight of the Champions League.
A team with 11 points or more is almost certain to secure a place in the top 24 and has a great chance of competing in the top eight.
So I think this match will be exciting because it is like a final for both teams.
PSG has the advantage of playing at home, but City is City, a big team ready to bounce back to avoid early failure in this season's Champions League. So it's not an easy game...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on January 03, 2025, 12:49:34 PM
PSG and City desperately need a win to finish in the last eight of the Champions League.
A team with 11 points or more is almost certain to secure a place in the top 24 and has a great chance of competing in the top eight.
So I think this match will be exciting because it is like a final for both teams.
PSG has the advantage of playing at home, but City is City, a big team ready to bounce back to avoid early failure in this season's Champions League. So it's not an easy game...
I said it is impossible for Paris Saint-Germain to finish in the top 8 of the standings, they are far apart and now there are only 2 games left, so it is impossible for them.

Also I feel that if they do not qualify for the play-off round, it is not a surprising result at all. Their performance this season is much worse than previous seasons, plus their performance in the Champions League has always been like that (cannot be better) every season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on January 03, 2025, 01:15:21 PM
Yes, you could say that, it's like a final match where some teams can't lose if they want to be in the next round, or at least they can qualify automatically.

In this new format, the Champions League forces teams to compete with all the other teams in the early rounds. This is different from the previous format where in the old format, there were only 4 teams competing to be in the last 16.
New format of UEFA Champion League have to play until 8 games and each teams will face difference opponent teams since first games weeks until the last games weeks. Its one unique side of new Champion League format although have many complaint before every team have to play until 8 matches than old format just playing 6 matches only.
I think new format looks fair and every teams have the same opportunity with face any top teams since first until the last games week, teams have collected many points get opportunity for directly qualify to knock out round and bad result for top teams after games week 6 many teams drop to bottom place standing awhile.
to say this is fairer or something, actually the old format is also fair, because all groups or teams that are included in one group are determined by the results of the draw. This season is also the same, all teams that meet each other are determined by the draw.

And each pot also has its own assessment depending on which pot they will be placed in based on their achievements. Although true, the more match schedules are a complaint.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pieppiep on January 04, 2025, 07:48:05 AM
PSG seems unlucky because in their 7th match they have to face Man City. And I think PSG could even lose even though Man City is not at their best either.

I really hope this doesn't happen, I see that PSG is much better than City, although of course we have to remember that things are not going well for City right now, in their local league they are worse than PSG, so I think that this match will be very balanced if we base ourselves on levels, that is why I don't see so much complication for this team, if PSG wins they would be demonstrating many things, even in their own local league, but there is still a long way to go and I want to see how things develop.

For me it is easy, City is not well, and they do not get out of their crises so quickly, it is already very well demonstrated.
When two giant teams are together like PSG and City what we anticipate is competition that depicts class respectable. However, as it is seen City seems to be struggling at the moment, but the capacity of the team is enormous enough to deliver and the nature is that in every team of their capacity can bring the surprise element. PSG also have the chance to demonstrate their performance both on national level but also European and international level. The match like this is not only who is stronger at the given moment and better competing another one but who is able to perform the pressure and take every chance to win. I think both teams can give an interesting performance, therefore the outcome depends on their activities during the match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on January 04, 2025, 09:30:37 AM

Also I feel that if they do not qualify for the play-off round, it is not a surprising result at all. Their performance this season is much worse than previous seasons, plus their performance in the Champions League has always been like that (cannot be better) every season.

Yeah. PSG is struggling this season in the Champions League, 25th place, with low goals, and tough losses. Luis Enrique is bleeding.
PSG has had a tough Champions League run so far, which isn't very comfortable and embarrassing for such a big club.
PSG needs a serious turnaround to avoid early elimination this season. A big challenges ahead. We'll wait for the rest.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on January 04, 2025, 09:49:06 AM
Yeah. PSG is struggling this season in the Champions League, 25th place, with low goals, and tough losses. Luis Enrique is bleeding.
PSG has had a tough Champions League run so far, which isn't very comfortable and embarrassing for such a big club.
PSG needs a serious turnaround to avoid early elimination this season. A big challenges ahead. We'll wait for the rest.
PSG can qualify one they may win with 2 remaining matches and it will also enter the playoffs but at the end PSG will fall because this team does not have a good mentality in the champions league.
PSG still has no achievements in the Champions League and that is their main target, whether until when it is clear that they still fail.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on January 04, 2025, 10:13:46 AM
Yeah. PSG is struggling this season in the Champions League, 25th place, with low goals, and tough losses. Luis Enrique is bleeding.
PSG has had a tough Champions League run so far, which isn't very comfortable and embarrassing for such a big club.
PSG needs a serious turnaround to avoid early elimination this season. A big challenges ahead. We'll wait for the rest.
PSG can qualify one they may win with 2 remaining matches and it will also enter the playoffs but at the end PSG will fall because this team does not have a good mentality in the champions league.
PSG still has no achievements in the Champions League and that is their main target, whether until when it is clear that they still fail.

PSG’s road to UCL survival just got even tougher, I think they should spend more money  ;D The team's performance doesn't look good.
Enrique better get busy and figure things out. It's like the skylight is open and it is raining.
Luis Enrique needs to pull off a miracle here to keep his job and Dembele needs to put the team on his back to deserve to be in this competition.
Anyway, Good luck to PSG and take care for the future matches.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on January 04, 2025, 11:58:33 AM

Also I feel that if they do not qualify for the play-off round, it is not a surprising result at all. Their performance this season is much worse than previous seasons, plus their performance in the Champions League has always been like that (cannot be better) every season.

Yeah. PSG is struggling this season in the Champions League, 25th place, with low goals, and tough losses. Luis Enrique is bleeding.
PSG has had a tough Champions League run so far, which isn't very comfortable and embarrassing for such a big club.
PSG needs a serious turnaround to avoid early elimination this season. A big challenges ahead. We'll wait for the rest.
After their star players left, they experienced a decline like this, it means they rely heavily on the star players who have been in the team. A team should not do that, because the impact will be like what they are showing now.

I hope this can be a very valuable lesson for them, in the future they should not do the same thing, and they can even use this to form a more even team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on January 05, 2025, 02:30:51 PM
There are still many possibilities in the remaining 2 matches that can change the standings of the teams, so this will be very decisive for them, both those in the top 8 positions, or those in the top 24 positions.

They need to be careful and they also have to make sure that they can get the victory in the last 2 matches. This will be interesting because I'm sure there will be a surprise.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 05, 2025, 10:00:28 PM
PSG and City desperately need a win to finish in the last eight of the Champions League.
A team with 11 points or more is almost certain to secure a place in the top 24 and has a great chance of competing in the top eight.
So I think this match will be exciting because it is like a final for both teams.
PSG has the advantage of playing at home, but City is City, a big team ready to bounce back to avoid early failure in this season's Champions League. So it's not an easy game...

I see City's path as very difficult, the truth is that everyone says that City is City but lately the way they have played is not convincing, the performance of PG does not convince me either, so I could not give a winner here, for me both teams are playing equally, here the one that will win is the one that has the most desire to win, otherwise I do not believe that a winner can emerge with that spirit, and as they want to stay in the round of 16 it will be very tight, it is difficult to see these two teams in this situation, the truth is that I did not think that this panorama would occur.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on January 06, 2025, 08:00:38 PM
PSG and City desperately need a win to finish in the last eight of the Champions League.
A team with 11 points or more is almost certain to secure a place in the top 24 and has a great chance of competing in the top eight.
So I think this match will be exciting because it is like a final for both teams.
PSG has the advantage of playing at home, but City is City, a big team ready to bounce back to avoid early failure in this season's Champions League. So it's not an easy game...

I see City's path as very difficult, the truth is that everyone says that City is City but lately the way they have played is not convincing, the performance of PG does not convince me either, so I could not give a winner here, for me both teams are playing equally, here the one that will win is the one that has the most desire to win, otherwise I do not believe that a winner can emerge with that spirit, and as they want to stay in the round of 16 it will be very tight, it is difficult to see these two teams in this situation, the truth is that I did not think that this panorama would occur.

The Citizens are gradually getting back to their winning ways. The race to the knockout round is not over yet.
The good news for City is that Savinho is starting to show his quality, he is in good shape, Savinho's passing in the box is better than any other winger in his position, and he’s producing the goals and assists in the last two games
He should play when City is against PSG, Savinho deserves to play. IMO
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on January 11, 2025, 04:01:05 PM
The Citizens are gradually getting back to their winning ways. The race to the knockout round is not over yet.
The good news for City is that Savinho is starting to show his quality, he is in good shape, Savinho's passing in the box is better than any other winger in his position, and he’s producing the goals and assists in the last two games
He should play when City is against PSG, Savinho deserves to play. IMO
Their last 2 matches in the Champions League will be very decisive for their fate in the Champions League this season. If they can't win those 2 matches then they won't be able to advance further, and even if they only get 1 win it's still at risk.

Yes, slowly they can rise by getting wins, but will they be able to continue like that? because I haven't seen them be as consistent as last season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on January 11, 2025, 04:22:07 PM
The Citizens are gradually getting back to their winning ways. The race to the knockout round is not over yet.
The good news for City is that Savinho is starting to show his quality, he is in good shape, Savinho's passing in the box is better than any other winger in his position, and he’s producing the goals and assists in the last two games
He should play when City is against PSG, Savinho deserves to play. IMO
Their last 2 matches in the Champions League will be very decisive for their fate in the Champions League this season. If they can't win those 2 matches then they won't be able to advance further, and even if they only get 1 win it's still at risk.

Yes, slowly they can rise by getting wins, but will they be able to continue like that? because I haven't seen them be as consistent as last season.
City has started getting results and are really playing well so in the remaining two matches that are left in the champions League this season in the group phase city has a very high mountain to climb as they are in a very risky position because they could be eliminated this early in this years competition

It's left for city to do the job because they know what is at stake so they have to be in their best form going into these remaining two games because they are crucial to their survival in the champions League this season but with the experience at the disposal of city i see them maki it to the second phase of the champions League
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on January 11, 2025, 05:16:10 PM
Their last 2 matches in the Champions League will be very decisive for their fate in the Champions League this season. If they can't win those 2 matches then they won't be able to advance further, and even if they only get 1 win it's still at risk.

Yes, slowly they can rise by getting wins, but will they be able to continue like that? because I haven't seen them be as consistent as last season.
Manchester City have 1 point left from PSG and Stuttgart are outside from playoff round spot standings, if Manchester City losses three points or loss one match and other side both teams have lower standings success winning two matches left will make City eliminate from Champion League this season.
Important for Manchester City for winning two matches left if want secure one place for playoff round qualifying, if loss one or two matches left seems over for Man City and new Champion League format looks not friendly for several top teams.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on January 11, 2025, 09:08:47 PM
Manchester City have 1 point left from PSG and Stuttgart are outside from playoff round spot standings, if Manchester City losses three points or loss one match and other side both teams have lower standings success winning two matches left will make City eliminate from Champion League this season.
Important for Manchester City for winning two matches left if want secure one place for playoff round qualifying, if loss one or two matches left seems over for Man City and new Champion League format looks not friendly for several top teams.
Basically the remaining two matches in the current phase of the UCL are really important for all teams. And yes, especially for Man City and also PSG and even Real Madrid. PSG, who are outside the play-off zone, will definitely try harder. Likewise, Man City, which is still in an unsafe position, cannot lose in the last two matches. but the results will really be difficult to predict. Because the remaining two matches will feel like a final in this phase.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pieppiep on January 11, 2025, 10:24:53 PM
Manchester City have 1 point left from PSG and Stuttgart are outside from playoff round spot standings, if Manchester City losses three points or loss one match and other side both teams have lower standings success winning two matches left will make City eliminate from Champion League this season.
Important for Manchester City for winning two matches left if want secure one place for playoff round qualifying, if loss one or two matches left seems over for Man City and new Champion League format looks not friendly for several top teams.
Basically the remaining two matches in the current phase of the UCL are really important for all teams. And yes, especially for Man City and also PSG and even Real Madrid. PSG, who are outside the play-off zone, will definitely try harder. Likewise, Man City, which is still in an unsafe position, cannot lose in the last two matches. but the results will really be difficult to predict. Because the remaining two matches will feel like a final in this phase.
Of course the competition in the remaining matches of the UCL does create immense pressure on all teams especially the teams involved in a delicate situation. What is even more striking is that every change made within the match at such moment as in this particular case becomes crucial. PSG coming into this match still occupying a place in the outside of the play-off zone must definitely put up a great deal of effort to sustain his team’s chances, Manchester City on the other hand can also not afford to relax if they are to guarantee place in the next round of the tournaments. Of course, the stakes of the last two matches will be raised to the highest level because for many teams this will be the final of the competition. However, for sure we’ll be able to see an emotional match, the wonderful incredible battle of each and every participant.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on January 11, 2025, 11:35:26 PM
Basically the remaining two matches in the current phase of the UCL are really important for all teams. And yes, especially for Man City and also PSG and even Real Madrid. PSG, who are outside the play-off zone, will definitely try harder. Likewise, Man City, which is still in an unsafe position, cannot lose in the last two matches. but the results will really be difficult to predict. Because the remaining two matches will feel like a final in this phase.
Of course, those teams are not in a safe position on the table. I am sure they will try all out to have a better position in the end of the league phase. We don't know which team will be eliminated in this league phase. But I still expect that Man City and Real Madrid will continue to the next round. They are always favorite teams in UCL. It will be very unfortunate if we miss them in the next round. I'm sure these teams still have a chance to play in the final UCL.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on January 12, 2025, 01:44:58 PM
Their last 2 matches in the Champions League will be very decisive for their fate in the Champions League this season. If they can't win those 2 matches then they won't be able to advance further, and even if they only get 1 win it's still at risk.

Yes, slowly they can rise by getting wins, but will they be able to continue like that? because I haven't seen them be as consistent as last season.
City has started getting results and are really playing well so in the remaining two matches that are left in the champions League this season in the group phase city has a very high mountain to climb as they are in a very risky position because they could be eliminated this early in this years competition

It's left for city to do the job because they know what is at stake so they have to be in their best form going into these remaining two games because they are crucial to their survival in the champions League this season but with the experience at the disposal of city i see them maki it to the second phase of the champions League
If you count their chances in the Premier League, they have a 12-point gap from the current leaders Liverpool. This is a difficult thing to catch up, because they also need a defeat from the team they are chasing.

In the Champions League, they must at least be able to secure the play-off round to be able to advance to the next round. The point is they have to focus on their next match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on January 12, 2025, 06:27:35 PM
Basically the remaining two matches in the current phase of the UCL are really important for all teams. And yes, especially for Man City and also PSG and even Real Madrid. PSG, who are outside the play-off zone, will definitely try harder. Likewise, Man City, which is still in an unsafe position, cannot lose in the last two matches. but the results will really be difficult to predict. Because the remaining two matches will feel like a final in this phase.
Of course, those teams are not in a safe position on the table. I am sure they will try all out to have a better position in the end of the league phase. We don't know which team will be eliminated in this league phase. But I still expect that Man City and Real Madrid will continue to the next round. They are always favorite teams in UCL. It will be very unfortunate if we miss them in the next round. I'm sure these teams still have a chance to play in the final UCL.
I am sure of Madrid qualifying to the round of 16 than Manchester City because Madrid is playing their next two matches with clubs that they are syronger than, and Madrid is also improving in performance. City is playing with PSG, and nobody knows if City is capable of winning the match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on January 12, 2025, 08:25:39 PM
The Citizens are gradually getting back to their winning ways. The race to the knockout round is not over yet.
The good news for City is that Savinho is starting to show his quality, he is in good shape, Savinho's passing in the box is better than any other winger in his position, and he’s producing the goals and assists in the last two games
He should play when City is against PSG, Savinho deserves to play. IMO
Their last 2 matches in the Champions League will be very decisive for their fate in the Champions League this season. If they can't win those 2 matches then they won't be able to advance further, and even if they only get 1 win it's still at risk.

Yes, slowly they can rise by getting wins, but will they be able to continue like that? because I haven't seen them be as consistent as last season.

It's what happens when Pep stubbornly refuses to refresh the team and runs a bunch of older players into the ground.

We can rule out City as a strong contender in the Premier League and UCL with their current form, but they are not missing half their squad.
And January is mental recharging, Manchester City is advancing strongly on the market and the next steps are ready…
This is a strong indication that they are serious about fixing the team so that they can continue to compete in all existing competitions. Qualifying for the round of 16 of the UCL is not impossible for them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on January 16, 2025, 04:13:55 PM
Their last 2 matches in the Champions League will be very decisive for their fate in the Champions League this season. If they can't win those 2 matches then they won't be able to advance further, and even if they only get 1 win it's still at risk.

Yes, slowly they can rise by getting wins, but will they be able to continue like that? because I haven't seen them be as consistent as last season.

It's what happens when Pep stubbornly refuses to refresh the team and runs a bunch of older players into the ground.

We can rule out City as a strong contender in the Premier League and UCL with their current form, but they are not missing half their squad.
And January is mental recharging, Manchester City is advancing strongly on the market and the next steps are ready…
This is a strong indication that they are serious about fixing the team so that they can continue to compete in all existing competitions. Qualifying for the round of 16 of the UCL is not impossible for them.
I don't know for sure if it's because of internal problems or something else, but as far as I see now other teams are starting to realize what their strategy is like and the opponent can anticipate it better.

Because in terms of their game they are still fine, they still dominate the game and so on, but their problem is in the way they create goals which I think has decreased, also the defense looks more fragile.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on January 16, 2025, 05:11:23 PM
but I have to say that despite all this I'm happy with the league, come on
it's getting very animated with the fact that the teams aren't perfectly at the top
you know how boring it would be if they were always the same, at least this season there are three competing for the title :)

I hope someone thinks like me, or i going to feel stupid
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: debra on January 16, 2025, 11:29:04 PM
It's what happens when Pep stubbornly refuses to refresh the team and runs a bunch of older players into the ground.
We can rule out City as a strong contender in the Premier League and UCL with their current form, but they are not missing half their squad.
Pep may think Man City squad is still strong enough. But in fact, Man City squad seems no longer as strong as in the previous seasons.
We can't rule out Man City from UCL title race if they still can continue to the next round. But if they are eliminated in this league phase of UCL, we can rule out them. Man City still has a chance to play in the final if they can win in the 2 remaining matches. So they can go to the plays off round.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on January 17, 2025, 09:48:54 PM
It's what happens when Pep stubbornly refuses to refresh the team and runs a bunch of older players into the ground.
We can rule out City as a strong contender in the Premier League and UCL with their current form, but they are not missing half their squad.
Pep may think Man City squad is still strong enough. But in fact, Man City squad seems no longer as strong as in the previous seasons.
We can't rule out Man City from UCL title race if they still can continue to the next round. But if they are eliminated in this league phase of UCL, we can rule out them. Man City still has a chance to play in the final if they can win in the 2 remaining matches. So they can go to the plays off round.
I think no body should rule out Manchester City just yet in the champions League and even the premier League because I can say with all confidence that Manchester City still has some squad dept and quality in the team what is happening to them is that 80 percent of their first team players is not in form this season and some of their key players suffered injury at the start of the season and they are just recovering from those problems the main task for them now is to make sure that they win their remaining two matches that are left in the champions League campaign so they can make it to the NB next phase of the champions League but i still have the believe that Manchester City is still a threat in the champions League any day under pep
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pieppiep on January 17, 2025, 11:52:31 PM
It's what happens when Pep stubbornly refuses to refresh the team and runs a bunch of older players into the ground.
We can rule out City as a strong contender in the Premier League and UCL with their current form, but they are not missing half their squad.
Pep may think Man City squad is still strong enough. But in fact, Man City squad seems no longer as strong as in the previous seasons.
We can't rule out Man City from UCL title race if they still can continue to the next round. But if they are eliminated in this league phase of UCL, we can rule out them. Man City still has a chance to play in the final if they can win in the 2 remaining matches. So they can go to the plays off round.
I think no body should rule out Manchester City just yet in the champions League and even the premier League because I can say with all confidence that Manchester City still has some squad dept and quality in the team what is happening to them is that 80 percent of their first team players is not in form this season and some of their key players suffered injury at the start of the season and they are just recovering from those problems the main task for them now is to make sure that they win their remaining two matches that are left in the champions League campaign so they can make it to the NB next phase of the champions League but i still have the believe that Manchester City is still a threat in the champions League any day under pep
Man City is still the team capable of fighting for the championship, but the recent years have proved that the task facing the team becomes more and more difficult. They still have a good shot in the UCL, and provided they win their remaining two games, they may well be on their way to the next stage. The most important thing is how they play during a match, and as long as they manage to be good, they will have a chance for the next round. Even then nothing is ended, provided that there are still matches remaining. If they want to force themselves, and with an excellent battle spirit from all the football players participating, Man City still has a large probability to qualify themselves to be one of the strong teams worthy of entering the final stage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on January 18, 2025, 01:54:38 AM
but I have to say that despite all this I'm happy with the league, come on
it's getting very animated with the fact that the teams aren't perfectly at the top
you know how boring it would be if they were always the same, at least this season there are three competing for the title :)

I hope someone thinks like me, or i going to feel stupid
I'm sure in reality many of us feel the same way about this.

It's just that on the one hand, as people who bet a lot on the favorite teams, many of us will definitely feel disappointed. Because the favorite teams in the UCL last season turned out to be the disappointing teams in the UCL this season.

But yeah, the new format brings a different kind of fun and to be honest, I also feel that UCL has become more lively this time. Where competition has become tight even since the initial phase. Usually we only see favorite teams continue to dominate in one group and qualify for the next stage easily. But this time things were completely different. And yeah, that's the fun part.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on January 18, 2025, 07:03:25 PM
It's what happens when Pep stubbornly refuses to refresh the team and runs a bunch of older players into the ground.
We can rule out City as a strong contender in the Premier League and UCL with their current form, but they are not missing half their squad.
Pep may think Man City squad is still strong enough. But in fact, Man City squad seems no longer as strong as in the previous seasons.
We can't rule out Man City from UCL title race if they still can continue to the next round. But if they are eliminated in this league phase of UCL, we can rule out them. Man City still has a chance to play in the final if they can win in the 2 remaining matches. So they can go to the plays off round.
I think no body should rule out Manchester City just yet in the champions League and even the premier League because I can say with all confidence that Manchester City still has some squad dept and quality in the team what is happening to them is that 80 percent of their first team players is not in form this season and some of their key players suffered injury at the start of the season and they are just recovering from those problems the main task for them now is to make sure that they win their remaining two matches that are left in the champions League campaign so they can make it to the NB next phase of the champions League but i still have the believe that Manchester City is still a threat in the champions League any day under pep
Man City is still the team capable of fighting for the championship, but the recent years have proved that the task facing the team becomes more and more difficult. They still have a good shot in the UCL, and provided they win their remaining two games, they may well be on their way to the next stage. The most important thing is how they play during a match, and as long as they manage to be good, they will have a chance for the next round. Even then nothing is ended, provided that there are still matches remaining. If they want to force themselves, and with an excellent battle spirit from all the football players participating, Man City still has a large probability to qualify themselves to be one of the strong teams worthy of entering the final stage.

Manchester City is rebuilding its team for the future by bringing quality young players like Khusanov, Vitor Reis, and Omar Marmoush.
This is the City formula for Pep to rebuild their team for the future.
And Rodri has been crowned the world's best footballer of 2024 by The Guardian. Meanwhile, Abdukodir Khusanov is a rising star becoming the first Uzbek player to join the Premier League with City.
Looks like Pep is ready to be in the top league again :)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on January 19, 2025, 02:40:50 PM
One of the interesting matches in the Champions League match 7 is the match between Atletico Madrid vs Leverkusen. Atletico Madrid is one of the big teams in La Liga and is always a regular in the Champions League. While Leverkusen is a team that has just won the Bundesliga title in a very extraordinary way and now they are also in very good form. Who do you think will be able to win this match?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on January 19, 2025, 05:14:44 PM
One of the interesting matches in the Champions League match 7 is the match between Atletico Madrid vs Leverkusen. Atletico Madrid is one of the big teams in La Liga and is always a regular in the Champions League. While Leverkusen is a team that has just won the Bundesliga title in a very extraordinary way and now they are also in very good form. Who do you think will be able to win this match?
Atletico Madrid have bad capital for upcoming match in Champion League after defeating by Leganes in domestic league macth and have potential dropping to 2nd place. Facing Bayern Leverkusen is most important match for Atletico Madrid behind have one match left against Salzburg because Atletico still not secure yet at playoff round spot place or have motivate for get directly qualifying position.
Bayern Leverkusen looks one winning match left to secure their top eight standings place, have 13 points awhile and will secure their position if can beat Atletico upcoming match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on January 19, 2025, 05:57:27 PM
It's what happens when Pep stubbornly refuses to refresh the team and runs a bunch of older players into the ground.
We can rule out City as a strong contender in the Premier League and UCL with their current form, but they are not missing half their squad.
Pep may think Man City squad is still strong enough. But in fact, Man City squad seems no longer as strong as in the previous seasons.
We can't rule out Man City from UCL title race if they still can continue to the next round. But if they are eliminated in this league phase of UCL, we can rule out them. Man City still has a chance to play in the final if they can win in the 2 remaining matches. So they can go to the plays off round.
I think no body should rule out Manchester City just yet in the champions League and even the premier League because I can say with all confidence that Manchester City still has some squad dept and quality in the team what is happening to them is that 80 percent of their first team players is not in form this season and some of their key players suffered injury at the start of the season and they are just recovering from those problems the main task for them now is to make sure that they win their remaining two matches that are left in the champions League campaign so they can make it to the NB next phase of the champions League but i still have the believe that Manchester City is still a threat in the champions League any day under pep
Man City is still the team capable of fighting for the championship, but the recent years have proved that the task facing the team becomes more and more difficult. They still have a good shot in the UCL, and provided they win their remaining two games, they may well be on their way to the next stage. The most important thing is how they play during a match, and as long as they manage to be good, they will have a chance for the next round. Even then nothing is ended, provided that there are still matches remaining. If they want to force themselves, and with an excellent battle spirit from all the football players participating, Man City still has a large probability to qualify themselves to be one of the strong teams worthy of entering the final stage.
City qualification is in their hands, because if they van win their next game with PSG, then they can have hope of qualifying to thw round of 16.if they fail to win PSG, it means that they are already out of the competition. PSG on the other hand is also striving to qualify to the round of 16, and their match will be a do or die affair with City.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on January 20, 2025, 12:04:09 PM
Atletico Madrid have bad capital for upcoming match in Champion League after defeating by Leganes in domestic league macth and have potential dropping to 2nd place. Facing Bayern Leverkusen is most important match for Atletico Madrid behind have one match left against Salzburg because Atletico still not secure yet at playoff round spot place or have motivate for get directly qualifying position.
Bayern Leverkusen looks one winning match left to secure their top eight standings place, have 13 points awhile and will secure their position if can beat Atletico upcoming match.
Against Leverkusen will indeed be a very difficult match even for Atletico Madrid. Because Leverkusen's performance in the UCL deserves appreciation. They are even now ranked 4th because they have only lost 1 time and won 4 times. But the difference in points between Leverkusen and Atletico Madrid is only 1 point. This will cause one match result and even cause their positions to change. So for Leverkusen, which is ranked 4th, it is actually not safe to qualify directly for the next stage because if they lose, Leverkusen could fall into the play-off zone.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on January 21, 2025, 07:31:45 PM
Atletico Madrid have bad capital for upcoming match in Champion League after defeating by Leganes in domestic league macth and have potential dropping to 2nd place. Facing Bayern Leverkusen is most important match for Atletico Madrid behind have one match left against Salzburg because Atletico still not secure yet at playoff round spot place or have motivate for get directly qualifying position.
Bayern Leverkusen looks one winning match left to secure their top eight standings place, have 13 points awhile and will secure their position if can beat Atletico upcoming match.
Against Leverkusen will indeed be a very difficult match even for Atletico Madrid. Because Leverkusen's performance in the UCL deserves appreciation. They are even now ranked 4th because they have only lost 1 time and won 4 times. But the difference in points between Leverkusen and Atletico Madrid is only 1 point. This will cause one match result and even cause their positions to change. So for Leverkusen, which is ranked 4th, it is actually not safe to qualify directly for the next stage because if they lose, Leverkusen could fall into the play-off zone.
Today's champions League match between Athletico Madrid and Leverkusen will be a cracker to watch because both teams needs the win to cement their places in the knock round of the champions League this season especially athletico Madrid that is not too sure about qualification to the next round of the competition

A win for athletico Madrid will be good as it will see them to the qualifying phase and playing at home with their home crowd supporting them they will have to do everything possible to beat Leverkusen but it will be a difficult task for athletico Madrid because Leverkusen is one team that is difficult to beat both at home and away because they are a very strong side with good players who are always ready to give their all athletico Madrid has to be more offensive in this game because with the performance that they showed this weekend it was nothing to right home about
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on January 21, 2025, 10:04:34 PM
Benfica's Pavlidis already has a hat trick against Barca and that's just in the first half! When he decides to hang it up, this has to be one of the highlights of his entire career ;D I expect Barca to be more aggressive in the second half while Benfica to play deep into their own half and counter.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: DragonF on January 21, 2025, 10:21:26 PM
Today's champions League match between Athletico Madrid and Leverkusen will be a cracker to watch because both teams needs the win to cement their places in the knock round of the champions League this season especially athletico Madrid that is not too sure about qualification to the next round of the competition

A win for athletico Madrid will be good as it will see them to the qualifying phase and playing at home with their home crowd supporting them they will have to do everything possible to beat Leverkusen but it will be a difficult task for athletico Madrid because Leverkusen is one team that is difficult to beat both at home and away because they are a very strong side with good players who are always ready to give their all athletico Madrid has to be more offensive in this game because with the performance that they showed this weekend it was nothing to right home about

It is the first half, Atletico Madrid has a red card, and Bayer Leverkusen is dominating every aspect of the game. The "Neverkusen" had a good first half. Bayer Leverkusen clearly has an advantage in this game, and I believe they will win and secure the three points.

If Bayer Leverkusen can secure this victory, they will be in a good position going into the final game of the first round of the Champions League. If Atletico Madrid loses this game, they will have to win their final game and hope that other teams slip off, or they will have to play in the playoffs. 
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on January 21, 2025, 11:28:56 PM
It is the first half, Atletico Madrid has a red card, and Bayer Leverkusen is dominating every aspect of the game. The "Neverkusen" had a good first half. Bayer Leverkusen clearly has an advantage in this game, and I believe they will win and secure the three points.

If Bayer Leverkusen can secure this victory, they will be in a good position going into the final game of the first round of the Champions League. If Atletico Madrid loses this game, they will have to win their final game and hope that other teams slip off, or they will have to play in the playoffs.
Yes, Atletico Madrid got a red card in minute 25'. It was actually the big chance for Leverkusen to score many goals. But Leverkusen only could score 1 goal only. And they made a mistake in minute 76', Leverkusen also got a read card. In this situation, Atletico Madrid could take the advantage. Atletico Madrid succeeded to score 1 goal again in minute 90'. Well, it was a brilliant performance from Julian Alvarez.

With this result, Leverkusen can be out of the top 8 in the end of the league table phase. There are 3 teams which can overtake Leverkusen points.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on January 21, 2025, 11:45:55 PM
Benfica Vs Barcelona was considered to be potentially the most exciting game of today's round and they didn't disappoint. 9 goals, a red card, 3 penalties, embarrassing goalkeepers' mistakes on both sides, and a very last-minute winner - you couldn't asked for a better show.
Barcelona came up victorious 5-4 and secured a spot in the next phase.

Fixtures + odds (by Duelbits) for all of tomorrow's games:

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Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on January 22, 2025, 02:03:24 AM
Benfica Vs Barcelona was considered to be potentially the most exciting game of today's round and they didn't disappoint. 9 goals, a red card, 3 penalties, embarrassing goalkeepers' mistakes on both sides, and a very last-minute winner - you couldn't asked for a better show.
Barcelona came up victorious 5-4 and secured a spot in the next phase.

It was a fantastic game of football, but the officiating was biased--two soft penalties were awarded, a questionable bookings decision was made, and the foul on the Benfica attackers prior to the counter-last goal was ignored, a goal that should not have stood. On the other side, Benfica deserved to be humiliated for failing to defend a +2 goals margin with less than 30 minutes remaining.

The ref was bad, but conceding three goals in less than 30 minutes speaks much about their defence.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on January 22, 2025, 05:41:12 AM
Benfica Vs Barcelona was considered to be potentially the most exciting game of today's round and they didn't disappoint. 9 goals, a red card, 3 penalties, embarrassing goalkeepers' mistakes on both sides, and a very last-minute winner - you couldn't asked for a better show.
Barcelona came up victorious 5-4 and secured a spot in the next phase.
That was one of the matches that made those of us who bet on Barcelona feel pessimistic when Barcelona fell behind in the first half with a score of 3-1. But the extraordinary comeback in the second half was a little unexpected. And I think Barcelona had many lucky moments in that match. Like Rapinha who accidentally scored a goal in the 64th minute due to A. Trubin's mistake.  And yes, the Barcelona goalkeeper also made several mistakes due to his overly bold steps which resulted in him colliding with Barcelona's own players. And made Benfica score a goal. But I think it was the most entertaining match. And I'm glad I didn't miss the match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on January 22, 2025, 06:52:45 AM
Regarding the games week 7 result, Liverpool and Barcelona are the top current standings awhile have automatically qualify to the next round because not any team can't catch points got by both teams. Interested waiting for the bottom standings teams awhile with Manchester City, PSG and Real Madrid after last match Stuttgart get three points and right now now moving to the 21th with 10 points.
Today Madrid will face Salzburg and important three points keep get opportunity qualify to next round and most important match between PSG vs Manchester City, both teams have to win this match if won't loss the playoff round spot standings position.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on January 22, 2025, 06:57:29 AM
Regarding the games week 7 result, Liverpool and Barcelona are the top current standings awhile have automatically qualify to the next round because not any team can't catch points got by both teams. Interested waiting for the bottom standings teams awhile with Manchester City, PSG and Real Madrid after last match Stuttgart get three points and right now now moving to the 21th with 10 points.
Today Madrid will face Salzburg and important three points keep get opportunity qualify to next round and most important match between PSG vs Manchester City, both teams have to win this match if won't loss the playoff round spot standings position.
Barcelona and Liverpool will now be the first to qualify for the next stage with the points they currently have. But it is quite strange that this season we actually see 3 strong teams fighting just to win tickets to the play-off round. PSG and Man City, however, one of them must win and one of them may fail sooner this season. Meanwhile, Real Madrid, I think they can win the last two matches, so I'm not worried about Real Madrid at the moment. Because their performance seems to have improved again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on January 22, 2025, 09:47:46 AM
Benfica Vs Barcelona was considered to be potentially the most exciting game of today's round and they didn't disappoint. 9 goals, a red card, 3 penalties, embarrassing goalkeepers' mistakes on both sides, and a very last-minute winner - you couldn't asked for a better show.
Barcelona came up victorious 5-4 and secured a spot in the next phase.


The best Barca comeback, the best match! The match was a thriller, a roller coaster… Thanks to all the team it was such an amazing game.
Robert Lewandowski's goal-scoring prowess in the Champions League is truly amazing. Lewa leads the Champions League in scoring, but what happens to the defense, Barca must be stronger at the back.
And congratulations to Rapinha who was named MOTM against Benfica. He certainly deserved it...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pieppiep on January 22, 2025, 01:26:27 PM
Regarding the games week 7 result, Liverpool and Barcelona are the top current standings awhile have automatically qualify to the next round because not any team can't catch points got by both teams. Interested waiting for the bottom standings teams awhile with Manchester City, PSG and Real Madrid after last match Stuttgart get three points and right now now moving to the 21th with 10 points.
Today Madrid will face Salzburg and important three points keep get opportunity qualify to next round and most important match between PSG vs Manchester City, both teams have to win this match if won't loss the playoff round spot standings position.
Well, Liverpool and Barcelona have displayed a very stable and reliable performance this season and confirmed that both teams have a rather sound and highly valuable play. However, the head to heading match will be PSG and Manchester City because both the teams are under pressure of performing well. Real Madrid has the same possibility but for Salzburg, they could prove a hard nut to crack if Madrid are not at their best. The effect of teams on the standings also brings certain dramatic conflict with regard to the teams still at the bottom of the rankings. Times like this really demonstrate how cut throat things get for those playing at the upper level of the game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on January 22, 2025, 01:49:42 PM
We must not miss this match, namely PSG vs Man City. Because I'm sure this match will feel like a final match. Because both teams really need a win or full points from this match. Because if they fail then it is the same as they will most likely fail to enter the play-off round. At the same time Real Madrid will face RB Salzburg. But because I am sure Real Madrid will win this match. So I might miss watching that one match. And focus more on the PSG vs Man City match which will definitely be very exciting.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on January 22, 2025, 05:27:19 PM
We must not miss this match, namely PSG vs Man City. Because I'm sure this match will feel like a final match.
Manchester city versus PSG game will be very interesting but I'll be focusing more on arsenal's game because that's my football club and I'm more interested in the results we get than Manchester city that put themselves in that difficult position that they currently are in.

It will be another day to hope that we are able to finish off the chances that we create.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on January 22, 2025, 06:52:38 PM
We must not miss this match, namely PSG vs Man City. Because I'm sure this match will feel like a final match.
Manchester city versus PSG game will be very interesting but I'll be focusing more on arsenal's game because that's my football club and I'm more interested in the results we get than Manchester city that put themselves in that difficult position that they currently are in.

It will be another day to hope that we are able to finish off the chances that we create.
PSG vs Manchester City will be more interesting than Arsenal vs Dinamo, this is my own opinion.

PSG are trying to get out of the red zone because if they lose again then there is no hope of qualifying for the playoffs.
Well so this is the match to wait for, even the two odds are not much different meaning almost balanced.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on January 22, 2025, 08:39:17 PM
Manchester City vs Paris Saint German will be a cracker because both teams needs a win badly due to their current standings in the champions League table this season because they are at the brinks of elimination so this match is crucial to both teams survival in the champions League this season

A draw will not be a good one for both teams as a draw will further compound their problems I think this game will produce a lot of goals as both teams will come out to score because they need a win at all costs
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on January 22, 2025, 08:56:06 PM
We must not miss this match, namely PSG vs Man City. Because I'm sure this match will feel like a final match.
Manchester city versus PSG game will be very interesting but I'll be focusing more on arsenal's game because that's my football club and I'm more interested in the results we get than Manchester city that put themselves in that difficult position that they currently are in.

It will be another day to hope that we are able to finish off the chances that we create.
PSG vs Manchester City will be more interesting than Arsenal vs Dinamo, this is my own opinion.

PSG are trying to get out of the red zone because if they lose again then there is no hope of qualifying for the playoffs.
Well so this is the match to wait for, even the two odds are not much different meaning almost balanced.
There are whole lot of interesting match to play tonight, everyone would watch tonight match according to the team they are a fan to. To watch how the club they are a fan to, would perform today against their Champions League opponent. Whether they will win or lose because it is important to have that 3 points to help in qualifying the team to round of 16

As for me, I am supporting Manchester City to win against PSG, Arsenal to win theirs against Dinamo, Real Madrid to win against Salzburg, Milan to win against Girona
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on January 22, 2025, 09:25:37 PM
It 22minutes of play in the champions League game between Manchester City and Paris Saint German and it's still goalless with both teams trying to create chances so they can score but with the looks of things Manchester City seems to be in control of the game as they have been pressing so hard on the defense line of PSG trying to score but PSG has been defensive enough to repel all their attacks
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on January 22, 2025, 09:39:53 PM
It 22minutes of play in the champions League game between Manchester City and Paris Saint German and it's still goalless with both teams trying to create chances so they can score but with the looks of things Manchester City seems to be in control of the game as they have been pressing so hard on the defense line of PSG trying to score but PSG has been defensive enough to repel all their attacks
I just notice that both teams are playing for the unseeded knockout phase or the elimination ;D It's like watching a movie on how the once mighty teams have fallen this season.

Anyway, it seems to be that PSG are the more aggressive side with more possession and more attacks/attempts.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on January 22, 2025, 10:56:09 PM
We must not miss this match, namely PSG vs Man City. Because I'm sure this match will feel like a final match.
Manchester city versus PSG game will be very interesting but I'll be focusing more on arsenal's game because that's my football club and I'm more interested in the results we get than Manchester city that put themselves in that difficult position that they currently are in.

It will be another day to hope that we are able to finish off the chances that we create.

What's going on with Man City's defence after they blew another 2-0 league lead in two straight games? Pep is genuinely poor at player development; it appears he cannot achieve anything without world-class players; he's been at City for more than 7 years and hasn't developed any talent. When things aren't going well, he simply buys.

At this moment, his past success is all that is keeping him going.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on January 22, 2025, 11:01:57 PM
We must not miss this match, namely PSG vs Man City. Because I'm sure this match will feel like a final match.
Manchester city versus PSG game will be very interesting but I'll be focusing more on arsenal's game because that's my football club and I'm more interested in the results we get than Manchester city that put themselves in that difficult position that they currently are in.

It will be another day to hope that we are able to finish off the chances that we create.

What's going on with Man City's defence after they blew another 2-0 league lead in two straight games? Pep is genuinely poor at player development; it appears he cannot achieve anything without world-class players; he's been at City for more than 7 years and hasn't developed any talent. When things aren't going well, he simply buys.

At this moment, his past success is all that is keeping him going.
A beautiful come back from PSG in the secind half gave them more hope to fight for their qualification to ths roundog 16. City is finished with same set of players who are getting old and weak. Pep reign is coming to an end because he gat nothing to offer anymore. The match ended 4-2.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: DragonF on January 22, 2025, 11:13:36 PM
Manchester City vs Paris Saint German will be a cracker because both teams needs a win badly due to their current standings in the champions League table this season because they are at the brinks of elimination so this match is crucial to both teams survival in the champions League this season

A draw will not be a good one for both teams as a draw will further compound their problems I think this game will produce a lot of goals as both teams will come out to score because they need a win at all costs

What a surprising result in the match between Manchester City and PSG. I never saw that flaw in Man City. What a remarkable comeback for PSG. With Man City's weekend result, I thought they had returned to winning ways, but there is clearly a lot that needs to be fixed in the Man City camp. Perhaps the recent signing will improve the team's performance, but I do not see Man City winning a trophy this season.

Arsenal's win came as no surprise to me, but it was a good one with goals from Havertz and Odegaard. Both players have struggled to find the back of the net, so I believe that this goal will help them gain confidence. It is a good result for the Gunners, who have advanced to the next round of the Champions League.

I was surprised to see Bayern Munich lose the game against Feyenoord, as they were my favorite to win. 
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on January 22, 2025, 11:28:32 PM

What's going on with Man City's defence after they blew another 2-0 league lead in two straight games? Pep is genuinely poor at player development; it appears he cannot achieve anything without world-class players; he's been at City for more than 7 years and hasn't developed any talent. When things aren't going well, he simply buys.

At this moment, his past success is all that is keeping him going.
A beautiful come back from PSG in the secind half gave them more hope to fight for their qualification to ths roundog 16. City is finished with same set of players who are getting old and weak. Pep reign is coming to an end because he gat nothing to offer anymore. The match ended 4-2.

Pep's life must be extremely difficult after losing both his wife and his home, as well as not performing well with the team.I'm not sure, but he really needs to take a break; he appears frustrated which is a vulnerability you don't want to display to the the players.

 If there's one thing I've discovered from Pep this season, it's that he can't do it without investing heavily in players. He cannot do without those chequebooks.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on January 22, 2025, 11:31:42 PM
I think the biggest surprise of the day was Feyenoord beating Bayern 3-0, as Bayern was a pretty big favourite in that game, with odds of x1.37 (x7.50 for Feyenoord).

But it's not like they played horribly bad, the game stats show they were dominating:
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But maybe it's just due to Feyenoord taking a defensive strategy after taking the lead in the 21st minute.

Bayern are playing Slovan Bratislava on Wed (the last game of the league stage) which should be an easy 3 points, but probably won't be enough to avoid playoffs.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on January 22, 2025, 11:33:20 PM
We must not miss this match, namely PSG vs Man City. Because I'm sure this match will feel like a final match.
Manchester city versus PSG game will be very interesting but I'll be focusing more on arsenal's game because that's my football club and I'm more interested in the results we get than Manchester city that put themselves in that difficult position that they currently are in.

It will be another day to hope that we are able to finish off the chances that we create.
The bad season is not over yet for Pep and Man City. Even against PSG, they had to be slaughtered quite painfully. This is a very bad season for them.

Even though Man City had already taken the lead 2-0, it's just that their defense was very bad, so they were unable to maintain the advantage, instead they were hit by a significant counter attack from PSG. Now, Man City is temporarily thrown out of the playoff qualification zone, with only 1 match left.
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Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: debra on January 22, 2025, 11:58:40 PM
The bad season is not over yet for Pep and Man City. Even against PSG, they had to be slaughtered quite painfully. This is a very bad season for them.

Even though Man City had already taken the lead 2-0, it's just that their defense was very bad, so they were unable to maintain the advantage, instead they were hit by a significant counter attack from PSG. Now, Man City is temporarily thrown out of the playoff qualification zone, with only 1 match left.
Everyone must predict that Man City will defeat PSG. But today PSG was very clear that they are stronger than Man City. PSG very dominated the match, they made Man City like an average team. PSG scored 4 goals, it can be more than 5 goals if PSG players have a better accuracy in shooting. And even Man City already scored 2 goals, they are conceded 4 goals. Man City defense looked very poor. Man City must rebuild again their defense because it looks very badly.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on January 23, 2025, 02:43:31 AM
The bad season is not over yet for Pep and Man City. Even against PSG, they had to be slaughtered quite painfully. This is a very bad season for them.

Even though Man City had already taken the lead 2-0, it's just that their defense was very bad, so they were unable to maintain the advantage, instead they were hit by a significant counter attack from PSG. Now, Man City is temporarily thrown out of the playoff qualification zone, with only 1 match left.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/01/22/Wk8F9.png)
The result of this match was actually what I thought. Because from the start I didn't dare to take the risk of favoring one of the teams. because the match is predicted to be fierce. So from the start I just expected there to be lots of goals in this match and both teams scored goals. And apparently it worked.

But it is quite sad to see Man City experiencing failure this season in the UCL. and I actually thought this team had improved again. It's just that because they have been inconsistent this season, it would not be surprising if they ended up losing in the UCL this season. Even though there is 1 match remaining, I think hope is very slim. Because if Man City wants to qualify for the play-offs, Man City must win the last match and also hope that one of these teams, namely Benfica, PSG, Sporting and VfB, will lose in the last match. And that will be difficult to make happen.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pieppiep on January 23, 2025, 12:46:19 PM
The bad season is not over yet for Pep and Man City. Even against PSG, they had to be slaughtered quite painfully. This is a very bad season for them.

Even though Man City had already taken the lead 2-0, it's just that their defense was very bad, so they were unable to maintain the advantage, instead they were hit by a significant counter attack from PSG. Now, Man City is temporarily thrown out of the playoff qualification zone, with only 1 match left.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/01/22/Wk8F9.png)
The result of this match was actually what I thought. Because from the start I didn't dare to take the risk of favoring one of the teams. because the match is predicted to be fierce. So from the start I just expected there to be lots of goals in this match and both teams scored goals. And apparently it worked.

But it is quite sad to see Man City experiencing failure this season in the UCL. and I actually thought this team had improved again. It's just that because they have been inconsistent this season, it would not be surprising if they ended up losing in the UCL this season. Even though there is 1 match remaining, I think hope is very slim. Because if Man City wants to qualify for the play-offs, Man City must win the last match and also hope that one of these teams, namely Benfica, PSG, Sporting and VfB, will lose in the last match. And that will be difficult to make happen.
In the football world, the case is that the performance is not always good as expected, but this is what makes football very exciting to watch. We avail ourselves to the trends of the game with all the events that transpire in every set. Despite such state feels hard for Man City, we can admire the number of attempts and coordinated work of the team that tries to the end. Something that is good to know is that there is no chance to lose and every match can be an occasion to improve in next practises. Benefit should continue seeing it is valuable regardless of the outcome gotten. As it must be said, hope does look thin yet there is nothing in football apparently clear till the final last note. The spirit and desire to fight are things that love and must be cherished.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on January 23, 2025, 01:07:16 PM
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Now, Man City is temporarily thrown out of the playoff qualification zone, with only 1 match left.
It's a must win for them. Even a draw against Club Brugge means elimination from the competition already. I don't know exactly how Pep will approach this match but I'm expecting City to be aggressive early on, put pressure on the other team, and take control of the game. They need to take the risk.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on January 23, 2025, 02:53:59 PM
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Now, Man City is temporarily thrown out of the playoff qualification zone, with only 1 match left.
It's a must win for them. Even a draw against Club Brugge means elimination from the competition already. I don't know exactly how Pep will approach this match but I'm expecting City to be aggressive early on, put pressure on the other team, and take control of the game. They need to take the risk.
They have to accept the defeat and they also have to face a more difficult situation, because they have to win the last match and that victory must also be accompanied by the defeat of the team above them.

Will they be eliminated in this league round? It could happen and it could not. But they should not give up easily with what they are facing now, because if they lose their spirit, it means they will be eliminated.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on January 23, 2025, 05:19:02 PM
I think the biggest surprise of the day was Feyenoord beating Bayern 3-0, as Bayern was a pretty big favourite in that game, with odds of x1.37 (x7.50 for Feyenoord).
Somehow in the Champions League, the inexperience of new coaches in the competition always shows. I think this is the case with Bayern Munich because their young coach is doing very well in the Bundesliga, but in the Champions League competition they are not as strong as they used to be under other coaches.

Next season will be another time for them even if they do not make this one. The coach still has the time as Bayern will surely still be in the competition next season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on January 23, 2025, 05:46:04 PM
City is in a very dicey situation as things are not working for their favour and losing a game that they where two goals up is something that calls for concern with the current situation that they find themselves it's now a fifty fifty probability because city this season has been struggling very badly so the probability of city winning the last game too will be difficult for but let see how city will approach the game in the last day if they manege to get a win it will put them in a some how good position to qualify depending on how other teams will play if the results will favour them
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on January 23, 2025, 07:37:15 PM
I think the biggest surprise of the day was Feyenoord beating Bayern 3-0, as Bayern was a pretty big favourite in that game, with odds of x1.37 (x7.50 for Feyenoord).
Somehow in the Champions League, the inexperience of new coaches in the competition always shows. I think this is the case with Bayern Munich because their young coach is doing very well in the Bundesliga, but in the Champions League competition they are not as strong as they used to be under other coaches.

Next season will be another time for them even if they do not make this one. The coach still has the time as Bayern will surely still be in the competition next season.
Kompany is new and I don't expect him to be excelling in both domestic and European competitions, because he needs time to broaden his experience in all competitions. He is doing great in Bundesliga and let him focus more there because it's impossible for him to win UCL, so that he does not lose focus.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on January 23, 2025, 08:46:51 PM
I think the biggest surprise of the day was Feyenoord beating Bayern 3-0, as Bayern was a pretty big favourite in that game, with odds of x1.37 (x7.50 for Feyenoord).
Somehow in the Champions League, the inexperience of new coaches in the competition always shows. I think this is the case with Bayern Munich because their young coach is doing very well in the Bundesliga, but in the Champions League competition they are not as strong as they used to be under other coaches.

Next season will be another time for them even if they do not make this one. The coach still has the time as Bayern will surely still be in the competition next season.

Conceding 3 goals to an underdog, Bayern's performance was very embarrassing.
Kompany is a young coach, he learned a lot from this match. If your team can't find a solution in attack at least he shouldn't make such mistakes in defense. So not only did you not win, but you also lost For the umpteenth time. lol
But we also have to admit that Feyenoord played amazingly and the opponent's goalkeeper was amazing, that must be.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on January 23, 2025, 08:50:56 PM
City is in a very dicey situation as things are not working for their favour and losing a game that they where two goals up is something that calls for concern with the current situation that they find themselves it's now a fifty fifty probability because city this season has been struggling very badly so the probability of city winning the last game too will be difficult for but let see how city will approach the game in the last day if they manege to get a win it will put them in a some how good position to qualify depending on how other teams will play if the results will favour them
Don't expect Manchester City to be able to perform better, in fact, poor performance continues to exist in their squad even after a 2-goal lead that cannot be maintained means something is wrong not in his defense?

In the last match against Brugge will also be difficult where both want to win to qualify, so it will be a difficult match again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on January 23, 2025, 09:06:08 PM
City is in a very dicey situation as things are not working for their favour and losing a game that they where two goals up is something that calls for concern with the current situation that they find themselves it's now a fifty fifty probability because city this season has been struggling very badly so the probability of city winning the last game too will be difficult for but let see how city will approach the game in the last day if they manege to get a win it will put them in a some how good position to qualify depending on how other teams will play if the results will favour them

It took me a lot of time to recover from the disbelief Manchester City put me through. I was having them on my mind to win the match but the more I keep trying that they were going to work something out, the more it's difficult because it was getting bad. The last time Manchester City lost match to PSG isn't even on this occasion but this came early.

There is no way they can get there again because they have drop below the mark line of play off. They need to now go back to premier league and make sure they stay at top 4 otherwise there is no Champions League for them next season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: debra on January 23, 2025, 11:33:30 PM
City is in a very dicey situation as things are not working for their favour and losing a game that they where two goals up is something that calls for concern with the current situation that they find themselves it's now a fifty fifty probability because city this season has been struggling very badly so the probability of city winning the last game too will be difficult for but let see how city will approach the game in the last day if they manege to get a win it will put them in a some how good position to qualify depending on how other teams will play if the results will favour them
Indeed, they only have 1 more chance in the last match to determine whether they are really eliminated or not. It will also depend on the results of their match and also other clubs. Man City's defeat from PSG has indeed thrown Man City's position into the elimination zone. Unfortunately, it was PSG, a club that was actually not in its best condition, it's just that, this time, City really played very badly. Finally, PSG was able to take advantage of all the chances to win and this was very satisfying for them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on January 23, 2025, 11:33:43 PM
Don't expect Manchester City to be able to perform better, in fact, poor performance continues to exist in their squad even after a 2-goal lead that cannot be maintained means something is wrong not in his defense?
Yep. We don't expect too much on Man City for this season. They have a very serious problem in all lines. I don't think it is only on the defense line, they also have a problem in the midfield and attacking line. We can see that Man City can't score many goals as the previous season although Halaand always can play full-time.

In the last match against Brugge will also be difficult where both want to win to qualify, so it will be a difficult match again.
It shouldn't be a hard match for Man City. They will play against Brugge at Etihad stadium (Man City home). But there is always a chance for a surprise. It is not impossible that Man City fails to get full points.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on January 24, 2025, 12:12:13 PM
The 7th match in the Champions League has been played, one of which is Leverkusen who had to suffer a defeat when they faced Atletico Madrid. The defeat threatened their position and there was no other choice but they had to win the match in the last week.

Looking at the opponent they will face in week 8, they should be able to win this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rengga Jati on January 24, 2025, 01:39:06 PM
The 7th match in the Champions League has been played, one of which is Leverkusen who had to suffer a defeat when they faced Atletico Madrid. The defeat threatened their position and there was no other choice but they had to win the match in the last week.
Leverkusen is still in a safe zone, they are in 8th place. If they won the next match, they will be automatically qualified for the next round. In the latest match of this league phase, they will play against Sparta Praha at home. It is very unlikely that Sparta Praha to steal points from Leverkusen. So, I'm very sure that Leverkusen will go to the next round. However, the defeat against Atletico Madrid indicated that Leverkusen isn't quite strong to be the candidate of the champion. So far, Liverpool which looks like to be the winner of UCL 2024-2025.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on January 24, 2025, 05:08:03 PM
The 7th match in the Champions League has been played, one of which is Leverkusen who had to suffer a defeat when they faced Atletico Madrid. The defeat threatened their position and there was no other choice but they had to win the match in the last week.
Leverkusen is still in a safe zone, they are in 8th place. If they won the next match, they will be automatically qualified for the next round. In the latest match of this league phase, they will play against Sparta Praha at home. It is very unlikely that Sparta Praha to steal points from Leverkusen. So, I'm very sure that Leverkusen will go to the next round. However, the defeat against Atletico Madrid indicated that Leverkusen isn't quite strong to be the candidate of the champion. So far, Liverpool which looks like to be the winner of UCL 2024-2025.
There's no call for alarm for xabi Alonso and his team because Sparta is not a team that will pose a threat to Leverkusen in this present form that they find themselves Leverkusen will qualify for the automatic qualifying phase of the competition because they are in a very good form this season even though they lost against Athletico madrid in their last game they are still in a good position to make it to the automatic qualifying phase of the competition one of the team's to watch out for in this competition this season is Leverkusen because they play a very good brand of football
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on January 24, 2025, 05:21:40 PM
Yep. We don't expect too much on Man City for this season. They have a very serious problem in all lines. I don't think it is only on the defense line, they also have a problem in the midfield and attacking line. We can see that Man City can't score many goals as the previous season although Halaand always can play full-time.
Yehhh that's what I think, where all lines are having problems so bad problems appear now because the whole squad does not appear solid anymore so their goal productivity is now small, different from last season.

It shouldn't be a hard match for Man City. They will play against Brugge at Etihad stadium (Man City home). But there is always a chance for a surprise. It is not impossible that Man City fails to get full points.
So don't be surprised if for example they draw or lose at Etihad, their performance is not so consistent, therefore doubting Manchester City to win, but our hope is of course Pep Guardiola's team wants to win in order to enter the playoffs.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on January 24, 2025, 11:19:07 PM
The bad season is not over yet for Pep and Man City. Even against PSG, they had to be slaughtered quite painfully. This is a very bad season for them.
Everyone must predict that Man City will defeat PSG. But today PSG was very clear that they are stronger than Man City. PSG very dominated the match, they made Man City like an average team.
Even Man City also lost in ball possession and all lines. And for their front line too, their winning spirit really dropped so that the results of the match were very inconsistent. While on the other hand, PSG is also not that good, it's just that, this time, they are really motivated to beat a top club, especially a class like Man City,

The result of this match was actually what I thought. Because from the start I didn't dare to take the risk of favoring one of the teams. because the match is predicted to be fierce. So from the start I just expected there to be lots of goals in this match and both teams scored goals. And apparently it worked.
Each team has their own predictions. It's just that for the number of scores, this is indeed that good, PSG tried very hard to penetrate Man City's defense so many times. It's just that they can only play as hard as possible, because if they lose, PSG will be eliminated more easily, but their winning spirit is really visible, so they won from Man City.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on January 24, 2025, 11:28:26 PM
It shouldn't be a hard match for Man City. They will play against Brugge at Etihad stadium (Man City home). But there is always a chance for a surprise. It is not impossible that Man City fails to get full points.

Club Brugge are already in a safe zone wether they lose or win, the only way they would lose out on the playoff is if PSG, Sporting, Stugart and Benfica all win their games and the City beat Club Brugge to dump them out of the playoffs position.

But I really don't see any of these scenario happening, one club must drop a point to favour Club Brugge
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on January 24, 2025, 11:34:56 PM
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Now, Man City is temporarily thrown out of the playoff qualification zone, with only 1 match left.
It's a must win for them. Even a draw against Club Brugge means elimination from the competition already. I don't know exactly how Pep will approach this match but I'm expecting City to be aggressive early on, put pressure on the other team, and take control of the game. They need to take the risk.
They have to accept the defeat and they also have to face a more difficult situation, because they have to win the last match and that victory must also be accompanied by the defeat of the team above them.

Will they be eliminated in this league round? It could happen and it could not. But they should not give up easily with what they are facing now, because if they lose their spirit, it means they will be eliminated.
This is a difficult situation Manchester City found themselves in. Their match loss to PSG placed them in a kind of situation where they anticipated the club above them to lose before they qualified if they won against Club Brugge.

Well, I see it as a must-win anyway for Manchester City against Club Brugge. But what if VFB Stuttgart wins their own match against PSG that Manchester City couldn't win. I crossed my hands, waiting for a surprise to fall from the match
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on January 25, 2025, 08:28:22 AM
Club Brugge are already in a safe zone wether they lose or win, the only way they would lose out on the playoff is if PSG, Sporting, Stugart and Benfica all win their games and the City beat Club Brugge to dump them out of the playoffs position.

But I really don't see any of these scenario happening, one club must drop a point to favour Club Brugge
If Man City wins the last match in this phase, namely against Club Brugge, then automatically the points earned by Man City and Club Brugge will be the same but Man City will be ahead thanks to the number of goals and the number of goals conceded. But if Club Brugge manages to hold Man City to a draw then Club Brugge will qualify for the play-off round. This is like a final again that Man City and Club Brugge have to face just to fight for one seat in the play-off round. But I also wouldn't be surprised if Club Brugge was able to collect full points.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on January 25, 2025, 12:49:38 PM
The 7th match in the Champions League has been played, one of which is Leverkusen who had to suffer a defeat when they faced Atletico Madrid. The defeat threatened their position and there was no other choice but they had to win the match in the last week.
Leverkusen is still in a safe zone, they are in 8th place. If they won the next match, they will be automatically qualified for the next round. In the latest match of this league phase, they will play against Sparta Praha at home. It is very unlikely that Sparta Praha to steal points from Leverkusen. So, I'm very sure that Leverkusen will go to the next round. However, the defeat against Atletico Madrid indicated that Leverkusen isn't quite strong to be the candidate of the champion. So far, Liverpool which looks like to be the winner of UCL 2024-2025.
Yes, there is no other choice for them but to win this match if they want to qualify directly to the round of 16. This is something they must make sure they get, because after all it would be a shame if they had to go to the play-off round.

If they are in the play-off round, it means they will have more matches than the other teams. In general, it is something that is not profitable at all.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on January 25, 2025, 05:40:47 PM
Leverkusen will definitely win their last game at home to qualify automatically into the second phase of the competition without going through playoffs because the opposition before them is not that strong that will give them much headaches Leverkusen is one team that has been consistent with their performance this season and with the way they have been playing they will be going far in this competition this season
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on January 25, 2025, 10:06:20 PM
Leverkusen will definitely win their last game at home to qualify automatically into the second phase of the competition without going through playoffs because the opposition before them is not that strong that will give them much headaches Leverkusen is one team that has been consistent with their performance this season and with the way they have been playing they will be going far in this competition this season

I hope so, but their league form has been less than impressive, and throwing away a two-goal lead to draw 2-2 at Leipzig makes me worry.
If only Leipzig had five minutes more, they might have done more. Comebacks are everywhere this season. lol
Maybe Xabi should focus on reaching the DFB Pokal final and UCL cause their Bundesliga dream is over. IMO
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on January 25, 2025, 11:02:27 PM
If Man City wins the last match in this phase, namely against Club Brugge, then automatically the points earned by Man City and Club Brugge will be the same but Man City will be ahead thanks to the number of goals and the number of goals conceded. But if Club Brugge manages to hold Man City to a draw then Club Brugge will qualify for the play-off round. This is like a final again that Man City and Club Brugge have to face just to fight for one seat in the play-off round. But I also wouldn't be surprised if Club Brugge was able to collect full points.
Manchester City look to have found their footing again even though they lost to PSG last time in the champions league, they did not let it set them back against Chelsea that they were able to win even after conceding first. Manchester City’s new signing Omar Marmoush played very well in the EPL against Chelsea, his enthusiasm to deliver would have been useful and important for City against Brugge.

You are never too sure of what to expect from Champions League games, Manchester City need not underrate Brugge.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on January 25, 2025, 11:39:13 PM
Leverkusen will definitely win their last game at home to qualify automatically into the second phase of the competition without going through playoffs because the opposition before them is not that strong that will give them much headaches Leverkusen is one team that has been consistent with their performance this season and with the way they have been playing they will be going far in this competition this season
In the last match against Atletico Madrid, to be honest, Leverkusen did not play optimally. Atletico played with 10 men since the first half, but Leverkusen has not been able to optimize that chance. Yes, because Atletico Madrid is currently on fire and they are also in very good form.

Well, in the next match, Leverkusen will face Sparta Prague. This is actually a bit tricky, because sometimes clubs like this actually surprise many parties. Xabi must optimally develop the best strategy for his club's victory. Currently Leverkusen is in 8th place and this is good enough, if they can win then they can qualify for the next playoffs.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on January 26, 2025, 06:29:02 PM
If Man City wins the last match in this phase, namely against Club Brugge, then automatically the points earned by Man City and Club Brugge will be the same but Man City will be ahead thanks to the number of goals and the number of goals conceded. But if Club Brugge manages to hold Man City to a draw then Club Brugge will qualify for the play-off round. This is like a final again that Man City and Club Brugge have to face just to fight for one seat in the play-off round. But I also wouldn't be surprised if Club Brugge was able to collect full points.
Manchester City look to have found their footing again even though they lost to PSG last time in the champions league, they did not let it set them back against Chelsea that they were able to win even after conceding first. Manchester City’s new signing Omar Marmoush played very well in the EPL against Chelsea, his enthusiasm to deliver would have been useful and important for City against Brugge.

You are never too sure of what to expect from Champions League games, Manchester City need not underrate Brugge.

Marmoush is a wonderful player full of confidence, his presence is impactful and his energy was felt.
I believe he has the talent to make a name for himself in European football.
Pep bounced back well to beat Chelsea, That will give City confidence when against Brugge but yeah, City should not underestimate Brugge.
However, if City played like they did against Chelsea, they would win this game easily.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on January 28, 2025, 06:45:01 PM
We're going to see a lot of action tomorrow. 18 games in one day and it's a final round of the league stage, so for many it will be all or nothing game.

A word of warning to all casual gamblers who don't tend to do much research before betting - make sure the team you're betting for has actually any reason to approach the game seriously. For example, Liverpool is said to give a chance to their second-suit players and will let the main squad have a rest:
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-champions-league-squad-confirmed-30884696
They've already secured their spot in the final 16 so have not much left to play for tomorrow.
This could be a great chance for PSV to earn 3 points to bump their position in the table, although they are almost guaranteed to end up in the play-offs despite the outcome.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on January 28, 2025, 09:28:01 PM
Tomorrow final round of games in this preliminary rounds will be interesting because it's going to be deciding as some teams who has not done well will be looking for a way to remedy the situation so that they can qualify for the next round of the competition because already some teams has qualified automatically while others will be looking at a way to qualify through the play off so it's going to be explosive action as all teams will decide their Faith with their performance tomorrow good luck to teams like real Madrid and Manchester City because they don't look good in their current standings on the league table especially Manchester City that most their last champions League game against PSG
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on January 29, 2025, 05:03:24 AM
In the 8th UCL match, Liverpool may not play their main players full time. It is possible that there will be a rotation of players and give playing opportunities to second tier players who need experience playing in the UCL. So I wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool didn't get maximum results in the 8th match, namely against PSV.

And I might also pass on this one bet. Even though Liverpool will actually be very favorites, sometimes it is quite risky to favor a team that has already secured a safe place and perhaps no longer cares about winning or losing. Especially if Liverpool has another very important schedule that they must win.

Meanwhile, PSV really needs a win in the match against Liverpool. Because PSV is not yet in a safe position to qualify for the Play-off round. They must secure full points or a draw to get a ticket to the play-off round.

What do you think about this match, namely PSV vs Liverpool? A match that looks easy to predict, right? But I chose to skip it. Maybe.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on January 29, 2025, 07:34:18 AM
Tomorrow final round of games in this preliminary rounds will be interesting because it's going to be deciding as some teams who has not done well will be looking for a way to remedy the situation so that they can qualify for the next round of the competition because already some teams has qualified automatically while others will be looking at a way to qualify through the play off so it's going to be explosive action as all teams will decide their Faith with their performance tomorrow good luck to teams like real Madrid and Manchester City because they don't look good in their current standings on the league table especially Manchester City that most their last champions League game against PSG

Real Madrid still has a chance to compete for the top 8 standings while City only hopes to qualify for the next round through the playoffs.
Real Madrid travel to Brest in France, and it will be a tight match as both teams need a win to clinch an automatic ticket to the Round of 16.
Meanwhile, Man City will be at home against Club Brugge but Pep must be wary as Brugge has beaten Aston Villa and Sporting Lisbon in the UCL this season.
Anyway, I'm still confident Madrid and City will be able to qualify for the last 16 rounds.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: DragonF on January 29, 2025, 12:57:55 PM
Tomorrow final round of games in this preliminary rounds will be interesting because it's going to be deciding as some teams who has not done well will be looking for a way to remedy the situation so that they can qualify for the next round of the competition because already some teams has qualified automatically while others will be looking at a way to qualify through the play off so it's going to be explosive action as all teams will decide their Faith with their performance tomorrow good luck to teams like real Madrid and Manchester City because they don't look good in their current standings on the league table especially Manchester City that most their last champions League game against PSG

Real Madrid still has a chance to compete for the top 8 standings while City only hopes to qualify for the next round through the playoffs.
Real Madrid travel to Brest in France, and it will be a tight match as both teams need a win to clinch an automatic ticket to the Round of 16.
Meanwhile, Man City will be at home against Club Brugge but Pep must be wary as Brugge has beaten Aston Villa and Sporting Lisbon in the UCL this season.
Anyway, I'm still confident Madrid and City will be able to qualify for the last 16 rounds.

It is surprising that two Champions League football heavyweights, Real Madrid and Manchester City, were unable to secure their spot in the next round and must wait until the final game of the first round to decide their fate.

Real Madrid has been in good form recently, and I do not see Brest as a difficult opponent. Real Madrid will be on fire to advance to the next round of the Champions League. Mbappe needs Champions League glory, and I expect some individual brilliance. Man City is already out of the Champions League, so I do not expect much from them in this game, given their weekend game against Arsenal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on January 29, 2025, 10:12:08 PM
It's not going to well for Manchester City at the moment in the champions League this season as they are currently losing their last game at home to club brugge by 0:1 at halftime and if this result goes this way city might not even make it to the qualification phase of the champions League this season it's really surprising how city Lost form this way because this was one of the best teams in Europe something is definitely wrong with the city team as a whole but let see how the second half goes they may come back but the goal difference too is against city so it will be tough for city currently
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on January 29, 2025, 10:50:32 PM
Looks like Man City is about to secure their place in the play-off phase. They're wining 3-1 against Club Brugge with seconds to go.
As far as things are in the other games, Club Brugge will also make it, as they're on 24th place (last place of the play-off zone), so not much harm there.
No major surprises in all the other games so far.

I think it's safe to say that the new format is a success.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on January 29, 2025, 10:52:51 PM
A few minutes to the end of a round of 16 qualifications match, Liverpool wants to have their first loss match of the Champions League to PSV Eindhoven by 3-2.

Before the match started, did Liverpool purposely want to lose the match because already, Liverpool appeared at the top of the Champions League table with 21 points, followed by Barcelona(19) and Arsenal(19). However, the loss match for Liverpool and the draw for Barcelona don't really change the position of Liverpool and Barcelona from standing in the league table. It is those who bet on them to win, are the ones that actually lose in their bets for Liverpool and Barcelona to win their match
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on January 29, 2025, 11:29:08 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, the final table of the group stage is as follows:
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I don't think there are any major surprises. Some of the favourites like Real Madrid or Man City ended up much lower than everyone expected but they're still in the game.
None of the major teams got eliminated, although I expected a bit more from Stuttgart or Leipzig.
We have a few big clubs in the unseeded play-offs zone, so things could get interesting.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on January 29, 2025, 11:38:45 PM
Before the match started, did Liverpool purposely want to lose the match
They have had to prioritize the PL games they have coming up, the DGW, which they know they have to win to maintain their points in the EPL and stop other teams from catching up. The only significance of the loss to Liverpool is that it ruins the perfect record that they would have had in the group stages of the CL. It is also evidence that Slot needs the big players in the team to win games.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on January 29, 2025, 11:45:58 PM
A few minutes to the end of a round of 16 qualifications match, Liverpool wants to have their first loss match of the Champions League to PSV Eindhoven by 3-2.

Before the match started, did Liverpool purposely want to lose the match because already, Liverpool appeared at the top of the Champions League table with 21 points, followed by Barcelona(19) and Arsenal(19). However, the loss match for Liverpool and the draw for Barcelona don't really change the position of Liverpool and Barcelona from standing in the league table. It is those who bet on them to win, are the ones that actually lose in their bets for Liverpool and Barcelona to win their match
It was also a bit surprising with the result of PSV vs Liverpool because so far Liverpool has always had perfect results, but in the last match, they had to admit defeat from PSV. But the point is Liverpool has still qualified for the next round.

Another club, Barcelona also had to draw against Atalanta. While several other clubs that entered the play-offs fortunately won, such as Real Madrid, PSG, and also Man City who were really worried about. and in the end, Man City entered the playoffs, this is quite a relief. it remains to be seen whether they can do it better or not next time. this is an opportunity for Pep to show Man City again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on January 29, 2025, 11:53:23 PM
I don't think there are any major surprises. Some of the favourites like Real Madrid or Man City ended up much lower than everyone expected but they're still in the game.
None of the major teams got eliminated, although I expected a bit more from Stuttgart or Leipzig.
We have a few big clubs in the unseeded play-offs zone, so things could get interesting.

Aston Villa and Lille making it to the R16 while Madrid and City finishing on playoff positions yeah that's the fcking format I want to see - gives the underdogs chances of winning and progressing far in the competition unlike the old format that favors only the elite teams.

Liverpool vs Barcelona in R16 matchup??? Dann that's too early for this crack.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on January 30, 2025, 02:22:33 PM
I don't think there are any major surprises. Some of the favourites like Real Madrid or Man City ended up much lower than everyone expected but they're still in the game.
None of the major teams got eliminated, although I expected a bit more from Stuttgart or Leipzig.
We have a few big clubs in the unseeded play-offs zone, so things could get interesting.

Aston Villa and Lille making it to the R16 while Madrid and City finishing on playoff positions yeah that's the fcking format I want to see - gives the underdogs chances of winning and progressing far in the competition unlike the old format that favors only the elite teams.


What an achievement by everyone at the Villa!
A memorable night at Villa Park, Unai, and the fans enjoyed their journey in the Champions League.
One of the unsung heroes is Boubakar Kamara, this man just slotted into that central defensive role as if he had been playing there all season.
And I have to say, the fans want to run through brick walls for Unai Emery. What a man...
Football is about trust, hard work, and a team mentality. Congratulations to the Villa
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on January 30, 2025, 02:24:42 PM
UEFA Champion League phase league round have been over and have 8 teams are qualifying to knock out round and have 16 teams current standings until the 24th will face each other at playoff round get 8 teams for 16 of round. As Madrid fans get bad result after must playing at playoff round because Madrid recent finish at top 11th standings place, have format publishing by UEFA with potential teams will face by Madrid in playoff round between Manchester City, Bayern Munich or Celtic.

Seems early final if Manchester City vs Madrid because both teams usually face each other at semifinal to final match phase, but in this season after failure reach the top 8th place Madrid or City will face each other at playoff round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 30, 2025, 07:00:07 PM
Seems early final if Manchester City vs Madrid because both teams usually face each other at semifinal to final match phase, but in this season after failure reach the top 8th place Madrid or City will face each other at playoff round.
This is very unlikely to happen, if it does happen then it will be like another final, that's how I see it, but you have to take one thing as an example, which is that City still haven't gotten out of their bad streak, they're in crisis, the coach too, and despite being a very tough team, it's a scenario that has to be seen, of course if the result is Madrid vs Bayern it will be much more difficult for Madrid, especially because Madrid don't have a solid defence, and one of Ancelotti's biggest mistakes for me was putting Tchoaumeni in defence, because everyone passes through there as if nothing happened.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on January 30, 2025, 07:43:35 PM
Aston Villa and Lille making it to the R16 while Madrid and City finishing on playoff positions yeah that's the fcking format I want to see - gives the underdogs chances of winning and progressing far in the competition unlike the old format that favors only the elite teams.

Liverpool vs Barcelona in R16 matchup??? Dann that's too early for this crack.
When this new format was implemented at UCL, I actually had a little objection. But when you see the many surprises that occur and even the team that is usually the favorite turns out to be able to experience bigger challenges. So from then on I started to like this new format.

About Liverpool if they meet Barcelona earlier. Wouldn't that feel like an early final?  ;D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on January 30, 2025, 07:50:44 PM
About Liverpool if they meet Barcelona earlier. Wouldn't that feel like an early final?  ;D
But I want to look forward to this match early hahaha, maybe many people hope this match should be in the final but this time we will watch it early and in the final it is still difficult to guess which team will reach there.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on January 30, 2025, 10:56:00 PM
What an achievement by everyone at the Villa!
A memorable night at Villa Park, Unai, and the fans enjoyed their journey in the Champions League.
One of the unsung heroes is Boubakar Kamara, this man just slotted into that central defensive role as if he had been playing there all season.
And I have to say, the fans want to run through brick walls for Unai Emery. What a man...
Football is about trust, hard work, and a team mentality. Congratulations to the Villa

Yeah, Villa exceeded my expectations. I was the one who didn't think they had enough squad depth to compete in the new champions format and was expecting them to make some signings in the summer to strengthen the team, but I was mistaken; they performed admirably and better than any pundit could have predicted with their inexperienced squad.

I will always admire Unai Emery for his managing abilities with such a tight budget.

About Liverpool if they meet Barcelona earlier. Wouldn't that feel like an early final?  ;D

The only two clubs that could have battled it out with Real Madrid are meeting too early in my opinion, like the fixture but it little too early.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on January 30, 2025, 11:54:50 PM
When this new format was implemented at UCL, I actually had a little objection. But when you see the many surprises that occur and even the team that is usually the favorite turns out to be able to experience bigger challenges. So from then on I started to like this new format.

About Liverpool if they meet Barcelona earlier. Wouldn't that feel like an early final?  ;D
This will definitely be very exciting, but I'm not sure. because there is a pool and the top clubs that have qualified for the next round, will meet those from the playoffs. well, Liverpool and Barcelona are part of the clubs that are favored to win this year or season, but indeed, if you look at Real Madrid and also several other top clubs that can qualify from the playoffs, the next match will definitely be much more significant and tight competition. it seems like this will be interesting. then, will Man City really be free of performance after some bad things experienced before? Or will the level of defense be that good for a much higher future possibility.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on January 31, 2025, 12:04:55 PM
What an achievement by everyone at the Villa!
A memorable night at Villa Park, Unai, and the fans enjoyed their journey in the Champions League.
One of the unsung heroes is Boubakar Kamara, this man just slotted into that central defensive role as if he had been playing there all season.
And I have to say, the fans want to run through brick walls for Unai Emery. What a man...
Football is about trust, hard work, and a team mentality. Congratulations to the Villa

Yeah, Villa exceeded my expectations. I was the one who didn't think they had enough squad depth to compete in the new champions format and was expecting them to make some signings in the summer to strengthen the team, but I was mistaken; they performed admirably and better than any pundit could have predicted with their inexperienced squad.

I will always admire Unai Emery for his managing abilities with such a tight budget.


The lows that make the highs so sweet. The sweet, sweaty smell of an underdog victory. :)
Unai is a good coach. He knew exactly how to rattle UCL, and Villa's confidence soared. His tactics paid off beautifully.
He has transformed Aston Villa, the fans cannot describe their gratitude to this wonderful man.
But the crazy thing is that 6 teams in the Premier League will probably be champions, Spurs or United in the Europa League, and then teams like Liverpool, Villa, Arsenal, and City in the UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on January 31, 2025, 04:04:43 PM
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Seems early final if Manchester City vs Madrid because both teams usually face each other at semifinal to final match phase, but in this season after failure reach the top 8th place Madrid or City will face each other at playoff round.
They have themselves to blame for leaving it late. I think they became complacent and took the early games lightly because there were more points to collect and recover. City are building momentum but I'm leaning towards Madrid to make it to the next round. The 1st leg could be a draw.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pieppiep on January 31, 2025, 05:35:22 PM
Aston Villa and Lille making it to the R16 while Madrid and City finishing on playoff positions yeah that's the fcking format I want to see - gives the underdogs chances of winning and progressing far in the competition unlike the old format that favors only the elite teams.

Liverpool vs Barcelona in R16 matchup??? Dann that's too early for this crack.
When this new format was implemented at UCL, I actually had a little objection. But when you see the many surprises that occur and even the team that is usually the favorite turns out to be able to experience bigger challenges. So from then on I started to like this new format.

About Liverpool if they meet Barcelona earlier. Wouldn't that feel like an early final?  ;D
Yes, The new format gives teams unique opportunities to create remarkable victories throughout the tournament. Every football team now starts equal in its chance to show its strength on the field. The lack of prediction about what happens increases viewer interest. The clubs need to take more effort to reach their targets and together this produces better entertainment for everyone. The upcoming match between Liverpool and Barcelona would deliver a remarkable competition experience. When these two clubs meet they deliver elegant matches because of their established records in the competition. Everyone feels high excitement although these matches typically take place at the tournament finale. Experience levels for football fans may improve because of the special atmosphere produced in this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on January 31, 2025, 05:39:41 PM
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Seems early final if Manchester City vs Madrid because both teams usually face each other at semifinal to final match phase, but in this season after failure reach the top 8th place Madrid or City will face each other at playoff round.
They have themselves to blame for leaving it late. I think they became complacent and took the early games lightly because there were more points to collect and recover. City are building momentum but I'm leaning towards Madrid to make it to the next round. The 1st leg could be a draw.
I don't expect them to meet so soon, I mean I would like to see them meet in a crucial stage like the semi-finals or at least the round of 16.

I'm not saying that the play-offs aren't crucial, they are equally important of course. The draw will go a long way in determining who they end up playing against. But if they do meet now, I expect it to be an entertaining game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on January 31, 2025, 06:58:28 PM
About Liverpool if they meet Barcelona earlier. Wouldn't that feel like an early final?  ;D

Exactly why I didn't want the matchup this early, they are both team I'm rooting for this season.

They have themselves to blame for leaving it late. I think they became complacent and took the early games lightly because there were more points to collect and recover. City are building momentum but I'm leaning towards Madrid to make it to the next round. The 1st leg could be a draw.

Looking forward to this fixture - both teams are picking momentum at the right time and both hasn't been great in the CL as well. I will be rooting for City on this one. Madrid were lucky last season to have beaten City the way they did.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on January 31, 2025, 07:03:38 PM
About Liverpool if they meet Barcelona earlier. Wouldn't that feel like an early final?  ;D

Exactly why I didn't want the matchup this early, they are both team I'm rooting for this season.

They have themselves to blame for leaving it late. I think they became complacent and took the early games lightly because there were more points to collect and recover. City are building momentum but I'm leaning towards Madrid to make it to the next round. The 1st leg could be a draw.

Looking forward to this fixture - both teams are picking momentum at the right time and both hasn't been great in the CL as well. I will be rooting for City on this one. Madrid were lucky last season to have beaten City the way they did.
I just hope that City are strong enough to stop Real Madrid from winning them, because I don't think that City is back in form but struggling to pick form. It's this match that City will be tested because they haven't really playd with a big team after the recent change in their performance. Madrid have fully picked form which is a good advantage for them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on January 31, 2025, 08:16:37 PM
About Liverpool if they meet Barcelona earlier. Wouldn't that feel like an early final?  ;D

Exactly why I didn't want the matchup this early, they are both team I'm rooting for this season.

They have themselves to blame for leaving it late. I think they became complacent and took the early games lightly because there were more points to collect and recover. City are building momentum but I'm leaning towards Madrid to make it to the next round. The 1st leg could be a draw.

Looking forward to this fixture - both teams are picking momentum at the right time and both hasn't been great in the CL as well. I will be rooting for City on this one. Madrid were lucky last season to have beaten City the way they did.
I just hope that City are strong enough to stop Real Madrid from winning them, because I don't think that City is back in form but struggling to pick form. It's this match that City will be tested because they haven't really playd with a big team after the recent change in their performance. Madrid have fully picked form which is a good advantage for them.
Manchester City can't play Real Madrid at this present time due to the fact that they are currently struggling and is just trying to peak form so they have not gotten to the point of competing with Real Madrid as the two club are miles apart in form and class Madrid is going to win against Manchester City, Manchester City should focus more doing better in the premier League than in the premier League because this season i don't think that they can go beyond this level in the premier League
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on January 31, 2025, 08:25:21 PM
I don't expect them to meet so soon, I mean I would like to see them meet in a crucial stage like the semi-finals or at least the round of 16.

I'm not saying that the play-offs aren't crucial, they are equally important of course. The draw will go a long way in determining who they end up playing against. But if they do meet now, I expect it to be an entertaining game.
This is actually an unexpected coincidence, namely that the conditions of Manchester City and Real Madrid are actually quite similar in the Champions League this season. Namely, both of them have not performed optimally since the start of the Champions League this season. And both of them also struggled with quite difficulties in the initial phase. And both will have to make a lot of plays just to get into the playoffs. And now the two of them met earlier. Well, this is the culmination of the drama that determines two strong teams who have to eliminate each other just to enter the round of 16. Well, it's a little early but yeah, this is another surprise from the Champions League itself which always provides unexpected excitement.

I personally am also ready for an early meeting of these two big teams. because from the start I expected the schedule to be like now in the play-off round. But to be honest, I can't be a favorite to win for either of these teams. For me, Man City and Real Madrid have consistency that is difficult to predict in the Champions League. both are difficult to predict. It's just that Real Madrid seems to have risen early.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on January 31, 2025, 09:01:52 PM
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Seems early final if Manchester City vs Madrid because both teams usually face each other at semifinal to final match phase, but in this season after failure reach the top 8th place Madrid or City will face each other at playoff round.
They have themselves to blame for leaving it late. I think they became complacent and took the early games lightly because there were more points to collect and recover. City are building momentum but I'm leaning towards Madrid to make it to the next round. The 1st leg could be a draw.
Not entirely to blame because in the early rounds these two teams lacked points so more so that they entered the playoffs.
Yes, I think the same where Real Madrid will finally qualify for the next round while now Manchetser City is still a little doubtful.
Don't know what odds the bookies are offering in this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on January 31, 2025, 11:23:01 PM
I just hope that City are strong enough to stop Real Madrid from winning them, because I don't think that City is back in form but struggling to pick form. It's this match that City will be tested because they haven't really playd with a big team after the recent change in their performance. Madrid have fully picked form which is a good advantage for them.

They have lost only 1 game from last 10 games and added two quality players to the squad and are still busy in the transfer market to add some more players to the squad.

So yeah they might just be back to the City we all know before the CL game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on January 31, 2025, 11:51:07 PM
I just hope that City are strong enough to stop Real Madrid from winning them, because I don't think that City is back in form but struggling to pick form. It's this match that City will be tested because they haven't really playd with a big team after the recent change in their performance. Madrid have fully picked form which is a good advantage for them.

They have lost only 1 game from last 10 games and added two quality players to the squad and are still busy in the transfer market to add some more players to the squad.

So yeah they might just be back to the City we all know before the CL game.
I even fear more for Real Madrid than I fear for Manchester City, because if you consider the way Barcelona was able to defeat them, you should know that Manchester City on a good day can do the same and even worse to the struggling Real Madrid side. Manchester City also has the new players that have signed to join them in the next round of the competition, so they will be a much stronger side.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 01, 2025, 11:31:27 AM
I just hope that City are strong enough to stop Real Madrid from winning them, because I don't think that City is back in form but struggling to pick form. It's this match that City will be tested because they haven't really playd with a big team after the recent change in their performance. Madrid have fully picked form which is a good advantage for them.

They have lost only 1 game from last 10 games and added two quality players to the squad and are still busy in the transfer market to add some more players to the squad.

So yeah they might just be back to the City we all know before the CL game.

The past three seasons, every year they face off. I don't know what UEFA always tries to get from this faceoff.

I am looking forward to a fair and exciting match but seeing Real Madrid line up against Manchester City again makes me nervous. Every time these two meet, it's like a battle for football supremacy, and the tension is palpable.
Stay focused on the beautiful game, without letting rivalries turn ugly. Let's sit down and enjoy the show. :)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on February 01, 2025, 11:49:00 AM
I can't believe we'll see Man City Vs Real Madrid in the play-offs. The two biggest clubs in the bunch were drawn against each other, what are the odds...
Both clubs met in the quarter-final last year and Real came at the top defeating the City in penalty shootout.
The odds for Real to go through to the final 16 are x1.69, for Man City: x2.04. That's not a surprise given Real was victorious last season and, most of all, given Man City's problems with poor performance this season, and it's too soon to say whether they fully recovered from that yet or not.
Then again, City has made a big sign-up in the transfer window, acquiring Marmoush from Eintracht Frankfurt, he's a talented striker who could make a big difference.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 01, 2025, 01:23:50 PM
I can't believe we'll see Man City Vs Real Madrid in the play-offs. The two biggest clubs in the bunch were drawn against each other, what are the odds...
Both clubs met in the quarter-final last year and Real came at the top defeating the City in penalty shootout.
The odds for Real to go through to the final 16 are x1.69, for Man City: x2.04. That's not a surprise given Real was victorious last season and, most of all, given Man City's problems with poor performance this season, and it's too soon to say whether they fully recovered from that yet or not.
Then again, City has made a big sign-up in the transfer window, acquiring Marmoush from Eintracht Frankfurt, he's a talented striker who could make a big difference.

One of them is certain to fail to qualify fully for the next round of European competition, there will be a lot of tears but it will not be for Liverpool and Barcelona fans. :)
City's overall record Wins: 4, Draw: 5, and Real Madrid Wins: 3, but this is the first time in 5 years I'm not confident about City.
Their form shows they aren't competitors this season, Just waiting for the next season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on February 01, 2025, 01:34:58 PM
I don't expect them to meet so soon, I mean I would like to see them meet in a crucial stage like the semi-finals or at least the round of 16.

I'm not saying that the play-offs aren't crucial, they are equally important of course. The draw will go a long way in determining who they end up playing against. But if they do meet now, I expect it to be an entertaining game.
This is actually an unexpected coincidence, namely that the conditions of Manchester City and Real Madrid are actually quite similar in the Champions League this season. Namely, both of them have not performed optimally since the start of the Champions League this season. And both of them also struggled with quite difficulties in the initial phase. And both will have to make a lot of plays just to get into the playoffs. And now the two of them met earlier. Well, this is the culmination of the drama that determines two strong teams who have to eliminate each other just to enter the round of 16. Well, it's a little early but yeah, this is another surprise from the Champions League itself which always provides unexpected excitement.

I personally am also ready for an early meeting of these two big teams. because from the start I expected the schedule to be like now in the play-off round. But to be honest, I can't be a favorite to win for either of these teams. For me, Man City and Real Madrid have consistency that is difficult to predict in the Champions League. both are difficult to predict. It's just that Real Madrid seems to have risen early.
If asked who will win this match, personally I see Real Madrid has a chance to do that, of course not a very significant difference, but it's only a little in my opinion.

But if you base this on what many people are talking about, that Real Madrid is easier to beat when they are still far from the final, maybe this could be true. And if this really happens, then it seems like what is being talked about is true.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on February 01, 2025, 08:21:34 PM
They have lost only 1 game from last 10 games and added two quality players to the squad and are still busy in the transfer market to add some more players to the squad.

So yeah they might just be back to the City we all know before the CL game.
I even fear more for Real Madrid than I fear for Manchester City, because if you consider the way Barcelona was able to defeat them, you should know that Manchester City on a good day can do the same and even worse to the struggling Real Madrid side. Manchester City also has the new players that have signed to join them in the next round of the competition, so they will be a much stronger side.

I'm not going put the defeat to Barcelona in this one; we all know Real Madrid and Barcelona are two different breeds in the Champions League. They may be awful in the league and still win Champions League games.

A perfect time to avenge last season's loss? Chelsea and Madrid used to matchup at the knockout stages, but since Chelsea failed to qualify for the second consecutive CL football, it has been City vs. Madrid for the past two seasons. Something every fan always want to see..
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on February 01, 2025, 09:25:16 PM
Something every fan always want to see..
That game is the one having all the attention for the Champions League playoffs and one we will surely look forward to. What I just hope for Manchester City is that the difficult fixtures that they have this month do not affect their performance in that game because starting tomorrow they play Arsenal at the Emirates, and that will be a very difficult game for them considering the rivalry that both teams have, especially from the first leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on February 01, 2025, 09:50:01 PM
I even fear more for Real Madrid than I fear for Manchester City, because if you consider the way Barcelona was able to defeat them, you should know that Manchester City on a good day can do the same and even worse to the struggling Real Madrid side. Manchester City also has the new players that have signed to join them in the next round of the competition, so they will be a much stronger side.
If we consider the current condition of Real Madrid and Man City, Real Madrid surely looks better than Man City. Man City even couldn't beat PSG, I'm very sure Real Madrid can beat PSG. Man City also experienced many bad results in domestic competitions, meanwhile Real Madrid has no problem in domestic competitions. Even if Man City has new players, I'm not sure if they can be stronger than Real Madrid if they can't change their current condition. So, Real Madrid is no doubt stronger than Real Madrid recently.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on February 02, 2025, 01:11:18 PM
I even fear more for Real Madrid than I fear for Manchester City, because if you consider the way Barcelona was able to defeat them, you should know that Manchester City on a good day can do the same and even worse to the struggling Real Madrid side. Manchester City also has the new players that have signed to join them in the next round of the competition, so they will be a much stronger side.
If we consider the current condition of Real Madrid and Man City, Real Madrid surely looks better than Man City. Man City even couldn't beat PSG, I'm very sure Real Madrid can beat PSG. Man City also experienced many bad results in domestic competitions, meanwhile Real Madrid has no problem in domestic competitions. Even if Man City has new players, I'm not sure if they can be stronger than Real Madrid if they can't change their current condition. So, Real Madrid is no doubt stronger than Real Madrid recently.
Sooner or later we will see what the results are like when the match is held later. For now I also quite agree that Ral Madrid can still be better than Manchester City. But keep in mind that it is not a guarantee that they will really win this match.

Real Madrid also has not fully found the best form of their game, sometimes they can't play well.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 02, 2025, 08:45:09 PM
Madrid are going to win against Madrid in their champions League playoffs that is coming up later this month with the current form of Manchester City I don't personally see Manchester City as a threat to Madrid which is in form because the two clubs are currently miles apart in current form because Manchester City this season is just trying to survive their target this season is to make it to make it to Europe next season they are not a challenge in any of the tournaments that they are currently playing so this match will be more of a work over match for Madrid that is currently leading the laliga table it will be a miracle for Manchester City to qualify over Madrid
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on February 02, 2025, 09:50:25 PM
Madrid are going to win against Madrid in their champions League playoffs that is coming up later this month with the current form of Manchester City I don't personally see Manchester City as a threat to Madrid which is in form because the two clubs are currently miles apart in current form because Manchester City this season is just trying to survive their target this season is to make it to make it to Europe next season they are not a challenge in any of the tournaments that they are currently playing so this match will be more of a work over match for Madrid that is currently leading the laliga table it will be a miracle for Manchester City to qualify over Madrid
Both teams Madrid or Manchester City have bad capital for the playoff round first leg match in Champion League after defeating at domestic league match, Madrid last match defeated by Espanyol and today Manchester City have losses over 5-1 from Arsenal in premier league match.
Both teams actually have inconsistent performance but Real Madrid success winning three consecutives matches in Champion League just got inconsistent at early games week. Manchester City since leaving by Rodri difficult defend the winning trend and get difficult keep on the top perform in Champion League raise the top eight standings position.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on February 02, 2025, 11:02:19 PM
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Man City also experienced many bad results in domestic competitions, meanwhile Real Madrid has no problem in domestic competitions.
Didn't aged well for the latter as they were also beaten by another team from Barcelona.

Although I agree that RM would still come out on top, both teams are now affected negatively by the compact schedule in domestic and european club competitions. Even though City looked to be having more problems, RM still have to be in top shape to advance.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 03, 2025, 01:46:10 PM
Madrid are going to win against Madrid in their champions League playoffs that is coming up later this month with the current form of Manchester City I don't personally see Manchester City as a threat to Madrid which is in form because the two clubs are currently miles apart in current form because Manchester City this season is just trying to survive their target this season is to make it to make it to Europe next season they are not a challenge in any of the tournaments that they are currently playing so this match will be more of a work over match for Madrid that is currently leading the laliga table it will be a miracle for Manchester City to qualify over Madrid

Miracles often happen in football. :) but I agree, Madrid has a better chance of qualifying for the next round. City are no longer that team.
Real Madrid and Ancelotti will cook City in the playoffs, and I'm not worried about their attack but the way Liverpool and Barca humiliated Madrid earlier in the season with the way Madrid plays at the back is a bit worrying. Madrid struggled at the back at the time.
And I hope no penalty shootout can save both teams this time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 03, 2025, 03:24:01 PM
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Man City also experienced many bad results in domestic competitions, meanwhile Real Madrid has no problem in domestic competitions.
Didn't aged well for the latter as they were also beaten by another team from Barcelona.

Although I agree that RM would still come out on top, both teams are now affected negatively by the compact schedule in domestic and european club competitions. Even though City looked to be having more problems, RM still have to be in top shape to advance.
But after seeing Real Madrid lose to Espanyol I also started to doubt Real Madrid in the UCL later. Man City lost to Arsenal, who is a strong team. Meanwhile, Real Madrid lost to Espanyol, which was actually just a mediocre team and not that strong. And this will make us think twice about favoring Real Madrid. But we will also think twice about favoring Man City. I think both teams are in the same condition which makes it difficult for us to predict. But Real Madrid does look more stable than Man City.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Didia Sofunichi on February 03, 2025, 08:47:00 PM
I feel anxious and agitated seeing that Chelsea has slim chances of making it to the champions league next season. King of European football staying at of the compitition for a while now is quit disturbing
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on February 03, 2025, 11:42:39 PM
I feel anxious and agitated seeing that Chelsea has slim chances of making it to the champions league next season. King of European football staying at of the compitition for a while now is quit disturbing
Chelsea as King of European football? You have to be dreaming if that's what you're saying. What slim chances? They are currently in the 4th place after beating West Ham but three teams are right behind them. Still, that's not a slim chance to qualify next season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 04, 2025, 10:22:03 AM
I feel anxious and agitated seeing that Chelsea has slim chances of making it to the champions league next season. King of European football staying at of the compitition for a while now is quit disturbing

I don’t understand why people are coming to Chelsea, No matter how they paint it to look good, Chelsea is such a poorly run club.
The team looks fancy in the eye with Cole Palmer and Sancho but this team has no backbone. They always concede, can't grind out results, and can't control games. Chelsea was just too boring to watch, and Maresca is not the one
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 04, 2025, 02:08:17 PM
I feel anxious and agitated seeing that Chelsea has slim chances of making it to the champions league next season. King of European football staying at of the compitition for a while now is quit disturbing

I don’t understand why people are coming to Chelsea, No matter how they paint it to look good, Chelsea is such a poorly run club.
The team looks fancy in the eye with Cole Palmer and Sancho but this team has no backbone. They always concede, can't grind out results, and can't control games. Chelsea was just too boring to watch, and Maresca is not the one
Maybe he is a Chelsea fan. And I understand that it comes from the perspective of Chelsea fans themselves.

And yeah in some seasons Chelsea have been terrible. And that happened after this club changed ownership. But now Chelsea is starting to improve. And with the young players they have, this team actually has the potential to be even better next season.

But Chelsea is not the best in Europe. Even though Chelsea has indeed won the UCL, if I'm not mistaken, the last time Chelsea won the UCL was when Tuchel was the coach of this team. And after that we no longer saw Chelsea as a strong team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on February 04, 2025, 02:42:06 PM
Miracles often happen in football. :) but I agree, Madrid has a better chance of qualifying for the next round. City are no longer that team.
Real Madrid and Ancelotti will cook City in the playoffs, and I'm not worried about their attack but the way Liverpool and Barca humiliated Madrid earlier in the season with the way Madrid plays at the back is a bit worrying. Madrid struggled at the back at the time.
And I hope no penalty shootout can save both teams this time.

The Manchester City is going towards the deepest football hell present in history, it has undergone 5 goals from Arsenal, consequently making a truly humiliating result.
How can a kind of kind of kind of go to Europe and bother Real Madrid? impossible in my opinion
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on February 05, 2025, 02:32:42 PM
One of the teams that benefited in this play-off round is Paris Saint Germain, because they will face a team from the same league and it looks easy for them.

In the last match alone, they were able to beat Brest with a landslide score, that makes us even more confident that this will be an easy match for Paris Saint Germain to win. They really benefit.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 05, 2025, 07:04:33 PM

And yeah in some seasons Chelsea have been terrible. And that happened after this club changed ownership. But now Chelsea is starting to improve. And with the young players they have, this team actually has the potential to be even better next season.


I can see that before Christmas Chelsea is trying to come back.
But Chelsea was blinded by signing players and buying a ton of players, they spent a lot of money on it.
When these players realize that they won't get the game time all going to implode. Morale will drop, and results will drop, This could turn ugly for Chelsea. IMO
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 06, 2025, 01:48:58 PM
One of the teams that benefited in this play-off round is Paris Saint Germain, because they will face a team from the same league and it looks easy for them.

In the last match alone, they were able to beat Brest with a landslide score, that makes us even more confident that this will be an easy match for Paris Saint Germain to win. They really benefit.
For PSG against Brest it will not be that difficult. Because we know that PSG has beaten Brest quite often in Ligue 1. And yes, last week PSG also beat Brest in Ligue 1 with a fairly big score, namely 2-5. So even in the UCL I think PSG will also win. And clearly this is luck for PSG because in the play-off round they did not face another strong team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on February 06, 2025, 03:16:01 PM
One of the teams that benefited in this play-off round is Paris Saint Germain, because they will face a team from the same league and it looks easy for them.

In the last match alone, they were able to beat Brest with a landslide score, that makes us even more confident that this will be an easy match for Paris Saint Germain to win. They really benefit.
For PSG against Brest it will not be that difficult. Because we know that PSG has beaten Brest quite often in Ligue 1. And yes, last week PSG also beat Brest in Ligue 1 with a fairly big score, namely 2-5. So even in the UCL I think PSG will also win. And clearly this is luck for PSG because in the play-off round they did not face another strong team.
That's what I mean and it can't be denied that this is a very big luck that they can get. I can say 99% they have qualified for the round of 16 and the remaining 1% they will be eliminated if they are not lucky in that match.

The real challenge is in the round of 16 actually, because they will face teams that have the same level or even better than them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on February 06, 2025, 08:26:11 PM
One of the teams that benefited in this play-off round is Paris Saint Germain, because they will face a team from the same league and it looks easy for them.

In the last match alone, they were able to beat Brest with a landslide score, that makes us even more confident that this will be an easy match for Paris Saint Germain to win. They really benefit.
For PSG against Brest it will not be that difficult. Because we know that PSG has beaten Brest quite often in Ligue 1. And yes, last week PSG also beat Brest in Ligue 1 with a fairly big score, namely 2-5. So even in the UCL I think PSG will also win. And clearly this is luck for PSG because in the play-off round they did not face another strong team.
That's what I mean and it can't be denied that this is a very big luck that they can get. I can say 99% they have qualified for the round of 16 and the remaining 1% they will be eliminated if they are not lucky in that match.

The real challenge is in the round of 16 actually, because they will face teams that have the same level or even better than them.
Wow...this is a work over game for PSG and I will call it luck. Look PSG that was struggling with their group stage matches but became serious against City will qualify easily to the round of 16. Whereby, Real Madrid and City will be having a big fight to see which of them will qualify to the round of 16.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 06, 2025, 09:05:27 PM
Don't be too quick to conclude that it's a work over game for PSG because you feel that brest is a smaller opponents to PSG football is not like that they may be from Sam league but this is a different competition all together and no team should be under rated because for a team that made it out to the playoffs is good and should not be over looked like that because football is one thing that is highly unpredictable and dynamic so it's a game of 90minutes so this game  will depends on who takes their chances and opportunities that comes their way and how clinical they are in front of goals
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on February 06, 2025, 09:35:22 PM
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I can say 99% they have qualified for the round of 16 and the remaining 1% they will be eliminated if they are not lucky in that match.
I think two legged knockout playoffs also played to PSG's advantage. They could be surprised with the 1% chance you mentioned as chance of losing if it's just one game. That is unlikely to happen over two matches since they can recover in the second leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on February 06, 2025, 10:23:25 PM
For PSG against Brest it will not be that difficult. Because we know that PSG has beaten Brest quite often in Ligue 1. And yes, last week PSG also beat Brest in Ligue 1 with a fairly big score, namely 2-5. So even in the UCL I think PSG will also win. And clearly this is luck for PSG because in the play-off round they did not face another strong team.
Since PSG and Brest in the same league, I can agree that it is not so difficult to predict the result of the match. PSG is surely to have a big chance to win the match in UCL plays-off round. Well, PSG is quite lucky that they don't meet Real Madrid, Dortmund, or Juventus. It will be difficult for PSG to go to the next round if they play against a big team like Real Madrid, Dortmund, or Juventus. However, it is true that PSG shouldn't underestimate Brest because there will be still a chance for a surprising result.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 07, 2025, 03:28:39 PM
For PSG against Brest it will not be that difficult. Because we know that PSG has beaten Brest quite often in Ligue 1. And yes, last week PSG also beat Brest in Ligue 1 with a fairly big score, namely 2-5. So even in the UCL I think PSG will also win. And clearly this is luck for PSG because in the play-off round they did not face another strong team.
Since PSG and Brest in the same league, I can agree that it is not so difficult to predict the result of the match. PSG is surely to have a big chance to win the match in UCL plays-off round. Well, PSG is quite lucky that they don't meet Real Madrid, Dortmund, or Juventus. It will be difficult for PSG to go to the next round if they play against a big team like Real Madrid, Dortmund, or Juventus. However, it is true that PSG shouldn't underestimate Brest because there will be still a chance for a surprising result.
Brest so far in the UCL has made many surprises by managing to get a better ranking than PSG in the early phase. And even Brest almost immediately qualified for the next stage. Unfortunately Brest failed in the last matches and had to go through the play-off round first. And for PSG this is luck but for Brest it seems like this is not luck at all. because they have to face the strongest team from Ligue 1 who even managed to beat them last week.

yeah, but because of this UCL surprising results can happen again. And it would be a big surprise if Brest managed to beat PSG in the UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on February 07, 2025, 04:26:29 PM
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I can say 99% they have qualified for the round of 16 and the remaining 1% they will be eliminated if they are not lucky in that match.
I think two legged knockout playoffs also played to PSG's advantage. They could be surprised with the 1% chance you mentioned as chance of losing if it's just one game. That is unlikely to happen over two matches since they can recover in the second leg.
Moreover, if in the first leg Paris Saint Germain can win, in the second leg their chances will be 99.9%, that's my opinion. because when they can win in the first leg, in the second leg they will be more comfortable.

However, if something surprising happens in the first leg that makes Paris Saint Germain lose, then their chances change to 50% in the second leg. That's just my opinion.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 07, 2025, 08:18:20 PM
The real challenge is in the round of 16 actually, because they will face teams that have the same level or even better than them.

Of all this, the match I'm most looking forward to is between Madrid and City. For me, this game will be very key in terms of what can happen. However, I see things pretty good and somewhat favorable for Madrid. Madrid is very motivated and I think they can make the difference , but we have to be careful of Madrid because despite the fact that they've had a very bad run in the UCL , they can grow a lot as a team and they want to save their skin no matter what. These will be two very good matches with a lot of expectations. We'll see how Pep sets it up.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on February 07, 2025, 08:37:49 PM
Of all this, the match I'm most looking forward to is between Madrid and City. For me, this game will be very key in terms of what can happen. However, I see things pretty good and somewhat favorable for Madrid.
I also think the outcome of the game would be just as we expect, that is, Real Madrid dominating the game and defeating Manchester City. Manchester City this season will not win any competition because they are a shadow of themselves.

Pep needs more than a few days after divorce to be fully recovered. recovery sometimes may take a whoke season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 07, 2025, 09:51:57 PM
Of all this, the match I'm most looking forward to is between Madrid and City. For me, this game will be very key in terms of what can happen. However, I see things pretty good and somewhat favorable for Madrid.
I also think the outcome of the game would be just as we expect, that is, Real Madrid dominating the game and defeating Manchester City. Manchester City this season will not win any competition because they are a shadow of themselves.

Pep needs more than a few days after divorce to be fully recovered. recovery sometimes may take a whoke season.

In the last match against Leganes, Madrid won 2-3 but they made their fans nervous, leading 2 goals, equalizing by 2 goals, and winning in injury time, it's a hard game for Madrid. 
They are in a total emergency in defense and Ancelotti has tried the youngsters and changed the positions of some players. This is not normal because he is playing the same 11 all the matches and doesn't give a chance to the younger players only after all the first 11 get injuries. lol
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on February 08, 2025, 04:04:39 PM
The real challenge is in the round of 16 actually, because they will face teams that have the same level or even better than them.

Of all this, the match I'm most looking forward to is between Madrid and City. For me, this game will be very key in terms of what can happen. However, I see things pretty good and somewhat favorable for Madrid. Madrid is very motivated and I think they can make the difference , but we have to be careful of Madrid because despite the fact that they've had a very bad run in the UCL , they can grow a lot as a team and they want to save their skin no matter what. These will be two very good matches with a lot of expectations. We'll see how Pep sets it up.
The meeting between Real Madrid and Manchester City is the biggest match in this play off round, where many people expected them not to meet in this round but instead they met.

All eyes will be on this match and that is very natural considering these two teams are the ones who dominate in the Champions League, even they beat each other in the semi-finals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on February 09, 2025, 03:27:05 PM
Bayern Munich will face Celtic in the play-off round, this will be a tough opponent for Bayern Munich. Celtic itself is currently leading the domestic league standings, so they will certainly make it difficult for Bayern Munich.

Indeed, their appearance in the Champions League is a little different, but with their great motivation, it will be a stumbling block for Bayern Munich.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 09, 2025, 06:46:45 PM
Bayern Munich will face Celtic in the play-off round, this will be a tough opponent for Bayern Munich. Celtic itself is currently leading the domestic league standings, so they will certainly make it difficult for Bayern Munich.

Indeed, their appearance in the Champions League is a little different, but with their great motivation, it will be a stumbling block for Bayern Munich.
Celtic has always dominated their domestic league but when it comes to European competition they are still lacking behind I don't think that Celtic will be a problem to bayern munich in the champions League no not this season because it will be a goal galore for bayern munich as Celtics will be put to the sword when it comes to champions League bayern is one team that doesn't take it for granted and with the way bayern has been playing in their local league I don't really see Celtic as a problem to bayern, when it comes to football every team knows their level and mate because these two teams are currently in two diffe reams so bayern is going to progress against Celtic
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on February 09, 2025, 07:01:13 PM
Don't be too quick to conclude that it's a work over game for PSG because you feel that brest is a smaller opponents to PSG football is not like that they may be from Sam league but this is a different competition all together and no team should be under rated because for a team that made it out to the playoffs is good and should not be over looked like that because football is one thing that is highly unpredictable and dynamic so it's a game of 90minutes so this game  will depends on who takes their chances and opportunities that comes their way and how clinical they are in front of goals
I guess you don't watch Ligue 1 matches if not you wouldn't say that Brest will have the strength to play their king in the league and knock them out in play off. Brest s not a good match for PSG and everyone knows it. Or did you watch Manchester City vs PSG game? Where you not surprised at the stunt PSG pulled and won the game at the dying minute. I am not too quick to make my conclusions, but I am saying it as someone who knows the strength of both teams and someone that understands football with the current state of the competition for these two clubs.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 10, 2025, 05:09:21 PM

I also think the outcome of the game would be just as we expect, that is, Real Madrid dominating the game and defeating Manchester City. Manchester City this season will not win any competition because they are a shadow of themselves.

Pep needs more than a few days after divorce to be fully recovered. recovery sometimes may take a whoke season.

Yes, well basically those are the most logical speculations we can make, but it must also be said that City won their last Premier League game and that boosts their morale a bit. I just hope that Madrid don't take unnecessary risks. For me, the biggest vulnerability is in defence and that is something that Ancelotti still can't solve well.

I don't know if the biggest vulnerability is in Tchouameni, for me it's there and in Lucas V. I think they have to do something and have Modric start, I think it's much better that way and that Vini and Mbappé do something quickly.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 10, 2025, 10:43:21 PM

I also think the outcome of the game would be just as we expect, that is, Real Madrid dominating the game and defeating Manchester City. Manchester City this season will not win any competition because they are a shadow of themselves.

Pep needs more than a few days after divorce to be fully recovered. recovery sometimes may take a whoke season.

Yes, well basically those are the most logical speculations we can make, but it must also be said that City won their last Premier League game and that boosts their morale a bit. I just hope that Madrid don't take unnecessary risks. For me, the biggest vulnerability is in defence and that is something that Ancelotti still can't solve well.

I don't know if the biggest vulnerability is in Tchouameni, for me it's there and in Lucas V. I think they have to do something and have Modric start, I think it's much better that way and that Vini and Mbappé do something quickly.
City by current form is not a challenge to real Madrid in the champions League because city is currently not in their best form what city should be concerned about this season  is how they can qualify for the top four spots in the premier League which will see them go to europe so this is the end of the road for city because Madrid is currently in one of their best form going into this game so definitely Madrid is going to win the game
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 11, 2025, 12:03:25 PM
City by current form is not a challenge to real Madrid in the champions League because city is currently not in their best form what city should be concerned about this season  is how they can qualify for the top four spots in the premier League which will see them go to europe so this is the end of the road for city because Madrid is currently in one of their best form going into this game so definitely Madrid is going to win the game
But don't forget that in today's match Man City will be the host of the match. When Man City is playing as hosts at the Etihad stadium, they should be able to play with higher motivation than usual. Even though many people seem to believe that Real Madrid could be the favorite, we never know that Man City could bounce back with their extraordinary performance like last season. Well we never know that.

I personally just hope both teams score. And I hope there are lots of goals in this match. And to be honest, considering that both teams have the same problem, namely in the defense line, in this match we should really see a lot of goals scored. Moreover, the attack power of both teams is truly beyond doubt. The same doubts only arise from the level of defense of both of them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 11, 2025, 03:56:49 PM
City by current form is not a challenge to real Madrid in the champions League because city is currently not in their best form what city should be concerned about this season  is how they can qualify for the top four spots in the premier League which will see them go to europe so this is the end of the road for city because Madrid is currently in one of their best form going into this game so definitely Madrid is going to win the game
But don't forget that in today's match Man City will be the host of the match. When Man City is playing as hosts at the Etihad stadium, they should be able to play with higher motivation than usual. Even though many people seem to believe that Real Madrid could be the favorite, we never know that Man City could bounce back with their extraordinary performance like last season. Well we never know that.

I personally just hope both teams score. And I hope there are lots of goals in this match. And to be honest, considering that both teams have the same problem, namely in the defense line, in this match we should really see a lot of goals scored. Moreover, the attack power of both teams is truly beyond doubt. The same doubts only arise from the level of defense of both of them.
Playing at home doesn't give anyone an extra advantage to win any game so if you say it's because city is playing at home that they will win Madrid I will not agree with you I still stand on my word that city is going to be defeated today by Madrid city should channel their energy and focus more on the premier League so they can qualify for next years champions League campaign because with the way that they are currently playing it will be difficult for them to get a top four finish in the premier league by the way madrid is given about 3.12 odd so it's a nice odd and anyone who stake on it will be smiling tomorrow because madrid will win convincingly at the etihad stadium today
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on February 11, 2025, 10:41:47 PM
City by current form is not a challenge to real Madrid in the champions League because city is currently not in their best form what city should be concerned about this season  is how they can qualify for the top four spots in the premier League which will see them go to europe so this is the end of the road for city because Madrid is currently in one of their best form going into this game so definitely Madrid is going to win the game
But don't forget that in today's match Man City will be the host of the match. When Man City is playing as hosts at the Etihad stadium, they should be able to play with higher motivation than usual. Even though many people seem to believe that Real Madrid could be the favorite, we never know that Man City could bounce back with their extraordinary performance like last season. Well we never know that.

I personally just hope both teams score. And I hope there are lots of goals in this match. And to be honest, considering that both teams have the same problem, namely in the defense line, in this match we should really see a lot of goals scored. Moreover, the attack power of both teams is truly beyond doubt. The same doubts only arise from the level of defense of both of them.
Playing at home doesn't give anyone an extra advantage to win any game so if you say it's because city is playing at home that they will win Madrid I will not agree with you I still stand on my word that city is going to be defeated today by Madrid city should channel their energy and focus more on the premier League so they can qualify for next years champions League campaign because with the way that they are currently playing it will be difficult for them to get a top four finish in the premier league by the way madrid is given about 3.12 odd so it's a nice odd and anyone who stake on it will be smiling tomorrow because madrid will win convincingly at the etihad stadium today
The Manchester City vs Real Madrid match is currently on, and both teams are holding each other on a draw match(1-1) for a few minutes to end the second half. I can't really say the team that will later win the match because both team's strength in this match is being equal with attempts made against each other to score.

I would say in this match, let the best team win because both teams are my favorite teams. I will be happy with any of the teams that scored their late-minute goal to win against the other
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 11, 2025, 11:13:10 PM
The Manchester City vs Real Madrid match is currently on, and both teams are holding each other on a draw match(1-1) for a few minutes to end the second half. I can't really say the team that will later win the match because both team's strength in this match is being equal with attempts made against each other to score.


FULL-TIME  City 2- 3 Madrid.
Unbelievable...how can City give it away in the final minutes of the game?
Real Madrid's frontline is on fire... meanwhile, Man City fans are crying. lol
Rico had no business in that game, He’s an atrocious right back, same goes for Ederson. Doku left on the bench when they needed the press was a big loss, Savio didn’t have the big impacts expected. Poor subs decisions from the coach were made and City gave it all away. There's work to do for Pep in Madrid
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on February 11, 2025, 11:22:23 PM
The only surprise of today's round was Borussia 3-0 win over Sporting in an away game. I don't think they were the favourite to go through, given how poorly they are performing in Bundesliga this season (11th place), but it's almost like a different team when they play UCL. Or maybe today's success was due to them being led by their new coach, Niko Kovac.
With such an advantage, only a disaster can prevent them from advancing to the top 16.

Shame on Man City losing 3-2 to Real at home. They were only a few minutes away from a win, but they couldn't keep focus and succumb to the pressure.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on February 11, 2025, 11:33:26 PM
The only surprise of today's round was Borussia 3-0 win over Sporting in an away game. I don't think they were the favourite to go through, given how poorly they are performing in Bundesliga this season (11th place), but it's almost like a different team when they play UCL. Or maybe today's success was due to them being led by their new coach, Niko Kovac.
With such an advantage, only a disaster can prevent them from advancing to the top 16.

Shame on Man City losing 3-2 to Real at home. They were only a few minutes away from a win, but they couldn't keep focus and succumb to the pressure.
Incredible match between Man City and Real Madrid. Finally, after a thrilling match, Real Madrid won the first leg. Diaz, who just came from the reserve team, was able to save Real Madrid and make a draw, and Bellingham's last goal became the winner. Just wait for the second leg, what the result will be, if Real Madrid can force a draw, they can qualify. This is a difficult choice for both of them, because they are the top favorites, but they have to meet in the first match of the playoffs. Pep must be frustrated with this situation.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 12, 2025, 02:36:07 PM
Shame on Man City losing 3-2 to Real at home. They were only a few minutes away from a win, but they couldn't keep focus and succumb to the pressure.
Man City started the match very well. Even Man City also made Real Madrid's defense difficult several times in the first half. But yes, the problem is that Man City was not able to maintain their performance well throughout the match. Because in the second half Man City actually started to show their own weaknesses. But Man City's defeat in this match is actually not surprising. Moreover, in this match, the result almost ended in a draw. It's just that Real Madrid were lucky because in the added minute of added time Jude Bellingham managed to add 1 goal which put Real Madrid ahead in the end.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on February 12, 2025, 02:46:30 PM
The match lived up to the expectations and probably would have surpassed it if all those great chances were converted to goals. I mean 5 is already a goalfest but that could have been easily doubled with the number of attempts missing by a 'hair'.

Bellingham got real pace in those legs as can be seen on his sprint to get the ball and score the winning goal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: knowngunman on February 12, 2025, 02:58:19 PM
Man City started the match very well. Even Man City also made Real Madrid's defense difficult several times in the first half. But yes, the problem is that Man City was not able to maintain their performance well throughout the match. Because in the second half Man City actually started to show their own weaknesses. But Man City's defeat in this match is actually not surprising. Moreover, in this match, the result almost ended in a draw. It's just that Real Madrid were lucky because in the added minute of added time Jude Bellingham managed to add 1 goal which put Real Madrid ahead in the end.

Manchester City was the favourite to win in that match judging from both side performance but they had a lose defence who could not maintain their yard. Real madrid were lucky to have succeed in making the comeback and turn things around in unexpected ways credit to poor defending from City with their heavy legs. I won't blame the players much but Pep who's in charge and continue making wrong decisions when it comes to players selection.

And by the way, Op should update the poll on this thread and include Liverpool on the list of potential winners  8)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 12, 2025, 03:02:44 PM
Man City started the match very well. Even Man City also made Real Madrid's defense difficult several times in the first half. But yes, the problem is that Man City was not able to maintain their performance well throughout the match. Because in the second half Man City actually started to show their own weaknesses. But Man City's defeat in this match is actually not surprising. Moreover, in this match, the result almost ended in a draw. It's just that Real Madrid were lucky because in the added minute of added time Jude Bellingham managed to add 1 goal which put Real Madrid ahead in the end.

Manchester City was the favourite to win in that match judging from both side performance but they had a lose defence who could not maintain their yard. Real madrid were lucky to have succeed in making the comeback and turn things around in unexpected ways credit to poor defending from City with their heavy legs. I won't blame the players much but Pep who's in charge and continue making wrong decisions when it comes to players selection.

And by the way, Op should update the poll on this thread and include Liverpool on the list of potential winners  8)
It's just that Real Madrid really benefited greatly from this victory. Because with this victory, Real Madrid can play quite calmly in the next match. Because in the next match Real Madrid will also be more favored because they are the hosts. And I believe Real Madrid always play better when they are home. We know the atmosphere at Santiago Bernebeu is always different. And that could bring greater motivation for Real Madrid to be able to beat Man City completely.

Man City played well yesterday. It's just a shame that they couldn't maintain their best performance until the end. This is different from Real Madrid, which has always been quite famous for its never-give-up spirit until the end of the match. Quite often we have seen Real Madrid make dramatic wins at the end of matches.


Well you're right  ;D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 12, 2025, 03:28:07 PM
The remaining 4 matches in the UCL play-offs will take place today viz

- Club Brugge vs Atalanta
- Celtic vs Bayern Munich
- Monaco vs Benfica
- Feyenoord vs AC Milan.

And talking about the UCL play-off round, I actually just realized that there are 3 Serie A teams who are currently in the UCL play-off round. Namely Juventus, Atalanta and AC Milan. And actually these three teams were quite lucky because they didn't meet each other in this play-off round. So the three of them also have the opportunity to qualify for the next stage if they are successful in this round.

For today's match, my favorite teams are Atalanta, Bayern, Benfica and AC Milan. But maybe my choice will change. What about your choices for today's match?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 12, 2025, 03:43:30 PM
City by current form is not a challenge to real Madrid in the champions League because city is currently not in their best form what city should be concerned about this season  is how they can qualify for the top four spots in the premier League which will see them go to europe so this is the end of the road for city because Madrid is currently in one of their best form going into this game so definitely Madrid is going to win the game

Okay, it was a very tough match. I thought they were going to tie the game because in the 81st minute, City scored a goal. Fortunately, Madrid are super-experts at coming back because they managed to score 2 more goals, leaving City on the field. But it was a very tough, hard-fought match. It wasn't easy at all. City may be doing badly, but when they played yesterday I didn't see any weaknesses. Madrid took excellent advantage of players like Modric and Brahim who made the difference. Brachim barely touched the ball for the second time and he scored. To be honest, I don't like the work of the referees, not even the VAR, that's the only thing.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on February 12, 2025, 05:08:16 PM
The match lived up to the expectations and probably would have surpassed it if all those great chances were converted to goals. I mean 5 is already a goalfest but that could have been easily doubled with the number of attempts missing by a 'hair'.

Bellingham got real pace in those legs as can be seen on his sprint to get the ball and score the winning goal.
Real Madrid came out as winners even though they had to fall behind first. One of the things that could make them win this match is because of their very good mentality.

But I think here Pep Guardiola made a mistake by rotating and replacing his players, so that it could be utilized very well by Real Madrid. Now Real Madrid has one foot in the last 16 of the Champions League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on February 12, 2025, 06:01:39 PM
The match lived up to the expectations and probably would have surpassed it if all those great chances were converted to goals. I mean 5 is already a goalfest but that could have been easily doubled with the number of attempts missing by a 'hair'.

Bellingham got real pace in those legs as can be seen on his sprint to get the ball and score the winning goal.
Real Madrid came out as winners even though they had to fall behind first. One of the things that could make them win this match is because of their very good mentality.

But I think here Pep Guardiola made a mistake by rotating and replacing his players, so that it could be utilized very well by Real Madrid. Now Real Madrid has one foot in the last 16 of the Champions League.
Real Madrid mounted a lot of pressure on City's defense with their aggressive attacks and endless shots. I am not surprised at Madrid victory because I know that City have dropped form this season and they also have a porous defense, which Madrid took advantage of. City should try and finish on top four thid season so that we will see them again next season fighting with Madrid. Mbappe has picked form because he is always scoring in any match he plays currently.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 12, 2025, 08:19:46 PM
Club Brugge is currently holding Atlanta to a draw in today's champions League playoffs game the first half ended with a 1:1 draw but so far the second half have not produced any goal yet and the game is at the 73' minutes of play but the two teams have failed to find the back of the net so far in this second half I expected more goals from this game from the way the first half ended but in this second half it seems that the both teams have become more defensive and is doing everything to avoid conceiving goals with the way things are going in this game it's likely to end in a d aw and it will give Atlanta an edge going into the second leg at home in Italy
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on February 12, 2025, 09:38:05 PM
Club Brugge is currently holding Atlanta to a draw in today's champions League playoffs game the first half ended with a 1:1 draw but so far the second half have not produced any goal yet and the game is at the 73' minutes of play but the two teams have failed to find the back of the net so far in this second half I expected more goals from this game from the way the first half ended but in this second half it seems that the both teams have become more defensive and is doing everything to avoid conceiving goals with the way things are going in this game it's likely to end in a d aw and it will give Atlanta an edge going into the second leg at home in Italy

Club Brugge somehow stole the show in the final minute of the game from the penalty spot, I really thought it was going to be a stalemate with just 3 minutes of extra time being added, now that Club Brugge has the advantage, the 2nd leg is going to be a more intense affair, while I’d still expect Atalanta to qualify for the next round, Club Brugge isn’t going to be a walk in the park for them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 12, 2025, 09:55:38 PM
Club Brugge is currently holding Atlanta to a draw in today's champions League playoffs game the first half ended with a 1:1 draw but so far the second half have not produced any goal yet and the game is at the 73' minutes of play but the two teams have failed to find the back of the net so far in this second half I expected more goals from this game from the way the first half ended but in this second half it seems that the both teams have become more defensive and is doing everything to avoid conceiving goals with the way things are going in this game it's likely to end in a d aw and it will give Atlanta an edge going into the second leg at home in Italy

Club Brugge somehow stole the show in the final minute of the game from the penalty spot, I really thought it was going to be a stalemate with just 3 minutes of extra time being added, now that Club Brugge has the advantage, the 2nd leg is going to be a more intense affair, while I’d still expect Atalanta to qualify for the next round, Club Brugge isn’t going to be a walk in the park for them.
Club Brugge will move into the second leg with a goal advantage and if they can get a draw away in Italy will see them go through to the next round of the competition nice performance by club brugge as they managed to win this game but huge disappointment for Atlanta because with the way that they played in the weekend I expected them to win or at least get a point from this game because now they will have to get a win too go and it's going to be difficult for them because club brugge will like to defend and get them in the counter in the second leg am really not impressed with Atlanta performance because this was one club that was scoring plenty of goals at the beginning of the season but of recent scoring goals has become a problem to Atlanta
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on February 12, 2025, 09:57:22 PM
The Manchester City vs Real Madrid match is currently on, and both teams are holding each other on a draw match(1-1) for a few minutes to end the second half. I can't really say the team that will later win the match because both team's strength in this match is being equal with attempts made against each other to score.


FULL-TIME  City 2- 3 Madrid.
Unbelievable...how can City give it away in the final minutes of the game?
Real Madrid's frontline is on fire... meanwhile, Man City fans are crying. lol
Rico had no business in that game, He’s an atrocious right back, same goes for Ederson. Doku left on the bench when they needed the press was a big loss, Savio didn’t have the big impacts expected. Poor subs decisions from the coach were made and City gave it all away. There's work to do for Pep in Madrid
How will Pep Guardiola be able to face off Real Madrid in their home, in the second leg, if they can't win them at Etihad?

I find this loss match of Manchester City to be fortunate because they had the possibility of winning the match in their hands but they waste it away because of poor defending.

Pep Guardiola will be really disappointed about the loss match because he never thought it to be so. He thought Manchester City are back in their winning ways
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on February 12, 2025, 10:09:22 PM
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But I think here Pep Guardiola made a mistake by rotating and replacing his players, so that it could be utilized very well by Real Madrid.
I don't know about that. I thought his selection for the match was also good. They also had plenty of chances to bury the game with two strikes hitting the crossbar and the woodwork.

Milan still could not overturn Paixão's early goal for Feyenoord. The latter is also more aggressive in the first half which makes it harder for Milan.

Harry Kane probably securing their ticket to the next round with another goal against Celtics in the first leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on February 12, 2025, 10:50:55 PM
Today's round is almost over, still a few minutes left in 3 of the games.
The only concluded one was a surprise win of Club Brugge over Atalanta (2-1). I thought the Italian team would be the dominating side, but it was a fairly even game and Club Brugge won by a penalty in additional time. I still think Atalanta has more chances to go through, I'm confident they'll do much better at home.

The other surprise is Feyenorrod leading 1-0 against AC Milan, the only goal (so far) was scored by Paixao, who made a shot from outside the penalty area and the ball found its way to the net because of Milan's goalkeeper's poor intervention (the pouring rain didn't help).
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on February 12, 2025, 11:31:57 PM
Some surprising results occurred in this match.
Full time results:
Feyenoord 1 vs 0 Milan
Club Brugge 2 vs 1 Atalanta

Both Milan and Atalanta lost in the first leg, of course this is very unfortunate, even though they played away but they should have been able to win, but what can you do, they lost. and in the second leg they have to win on aggregate to be able to advance to the next round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on February 12, 2025, 11:35:06 PM
How will Pep Guardiola be able to face off Real Madrid in their home, in the second leg, if they can't win them at Etihad?

I find this loss match of Manchester City to be fortunate because they had the possibility of winning the match in their hands but they waste it away because of poor defending.

Pep Guardiola will be really disappointed about the loss match because he never thought it to be so. He thought Manchester City are back in their winning ways
Since Man City can't win in their home, it is more difficult to win in Real Madrid home. I don't see a chance for Guardiola to win in Real Madrid home because Real Madrid must have a more motivation to win at their home. Man City has a big problem with their strategy, teamwork, and mentality of the players. Maybe there will be many things to be fixed by Guardiola after this seasons ends. They may be better to focus on EPL only, to secure their position in UCL zone for the next season.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on February 12, 2025, 11:50:29 PM
Since Man City can't win in their home, it is more difficult to win in Real Madrid home. I don't see a chance for Guardiola to win in Real Madrid home because Real Madrid must have a more motivation to win at their home. Man City has a big problem with their strategy, teamwork, and mentality of the players. Maybe there will be many things to be fixed by Guardiola after this seasons ends. They may be better to focus on EPL only, to secure their position in UCL zone for the next season.
Manchester City will end this season without any trophy; they need to make sure they have a Champions League spot by next season because that can drift away too.

I was disappointed by Atalanta; failing to win Club Brugge must have ruined many betting tickets. Also Ac Milan losing to Feyenoord. The only game that went as expected was Bayern winning; the experience of Rogers could not topple the quality of the Bayern Munich team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on February 13, 2025, 03:20:45 PM
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But I think here Pep Guardiola made a mistake by rotating and replacing his players, so that it could be utilized very well by Real Madrid.
I don't know about that. I thought his selection for the match was also good. They also had plenty of chances to bury the game with two strikes hitting the crossbar and the woodwork.

Milan still could not overturn Paixão's early goal for Feyenoord. The latter is also more aggressive in the first half which makes it harder for Milan.

Harry Kane probably securing their ticket to the next round with another goal against Celtics in the first leg.
At first it was good, but after making player substitutions I think there was a strategy that did not go according to plan.

AC Milan could not score a single goal so they had to go home with a defeat in this match. They had difficulty facing Feyenoord's defense which I think is quite solid, also there was bad luck every time they attacked so they had to lose.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 13, 2025, 04:22:11 PM
AC Milan could not score a single goal so they had to go home with a defeat in this match. They had difficulty facing Feyenoord's defense which I think is quite solid, also there was bad luck every time they attacked so they had to lose.
Two teams from Serie A yesterday faced a bitter reality because they both lost. AC Milan and Atalanta both lost. Even though I hope both of them can win. But it seems my hopes were too big. AC Milan failed to take advantage of the opportunities they got. And yes, it must be admitted that Feyenoord's defense is quite solid. And regarding Atalanta, they lost due to a penalty kick that Club Brugge received in the added minute of time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 13, 2025, 07:46:08 PM
The Manchester City vs Real Madrid match is currently on, and both teams are holding each other on a draw match(1-1) for a few minutes to end the second half. I can't really say the team that will later win the match because both team's strength in this match is being equal with attempts made against each other to score.


FULL-TIME  City 2- 3 Madrid.
Unbelievable...how can City give it away in the final minutes of the game?
Real Madrid's frontline is on fire... meanwhile, Man City fans are crying. lol
Rico had no business in that game, He’s an atrocious right back, same goes for Ederson. Doku left on the bench when they needed the press was a big loss, Savio didn’t have the big impacts expected. Poor subs decisions from the coach were made and City gave it all away. There's work to do for Pep in Madrid
How will Pep Guardiola be able to face off Real Madrid in their home, in the second leg, if they can't win them at Etihad?

I find this loss match of Manchester City to be fortunate because they had the possibility of winning the match in their hands but they waste it away because of poor defending.

Pep Guardiola will be really disappointed about the loss match because he never thought it to be so. He thought Manchester City are back in their winning ways

Most of the City's losses this year are due to individual mistakes by the players or the goalkeeper. In this match, Real's second goal was due to a wrong pass from Ederson and the third goal was a mistake by Rico Luis.
Pep got reinforcement in January and decided not to use any new signings. No wonder they lost.
Pep has new tools to solve his problems but keeps using the old tools that caused the problems.
I hope he'll use all the new players in the second leg. New tools to solve his problems
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 13, 2025, 08:21:21 PM
AC Milan could not score a single goal so they had to go home with a defeat in this match. They had difficulty facing Feyenoord's defense which I think is quite solid, also there was bad luck every time they attacked so they had to lose.
Two teams from Serie A yesterday faced a bitter reality because they both lost. AC Milan and Atalanta both lost. Even though I hope both of them can win. But it seems my hopes were too big. AC Milan failed to take advantage of the opportunities they got. And yes, it must be admitted that Feyenoord's defense is quite solid. And regarding Atalanta, they lost due to a penalty kick that Club Brugge received in the added minute of time.
I think both inter Milan and Atlanta can overturn the results of the first leg because they only look lost by one goal margin so going into the second leg they have their face against the wall so it's either they win or face elimination and the good thing is they are playing at home that can be an added advantage to them I see both Atlanta and Milan going through to the next phase
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on February 13, 2025, 09:04:25 PM
The Manchester City vs Real Madrid match is currently on, and both teams are holding each other on a draw match(1-1) for a few minutes to end the second half. I can't really say the team that will later win the match because both team's strength in this match is being equal with attempts made against each other to score.


FULL-TIME  City 2- 3 Madrid.
Unbelievable...how can City give it away in the final minutes of the game?
Real Madrid's frontline is on fire... meanwhile, Man City fans are crying. lol
Rico had no business in that game, He’s an atrocious right back, same goes for Ederson. Doku left on the bench when they needed the press was a big loss, Savio didn’t have the big impacts expected. Poor subs decisions from the coach were made and City gave it all away. There's work to do for Pep in Madrid
How will Pep Guardiola be able to face off Real Madrid in their home, in the second leg, if they can't win them at Etihad?

I find this loss match of Manchester City to be fortunate because they had the possibility of winning the match in their hands but they waste it away because of poor defending.

Pep Guardiola will be really disappointed about the loss match because he never thought it to be so. He thought Manchester City are back in their winning ways

Most of the City's losses this year are due to individual mistakes by the players or the goalkeeper. In this match, Real's second goal was due to a wrong pass from Ederson and the third goal was a mistake by Rico Luis.
Pep got reinforcement in January and decided not to use any new signings. No wonder they lost.
Pep has new tools to solve his problems but keeps using the old tools that caused the problems.
I hope he'll use all the new players in the second leg. New tools to solve his problems
Mistakes must occur for the other side to take advantage of and win the match. Pep believes mors in his old players than new players because they're more experienced when playing Real Madrid. However, what makes you think that the new players would have been able to make a difference or win Madrid. The fact is that Pep glory was from his old players but they're aging.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 13, 2025, 09:18:25 PM
You're actually right because this season if you look at the Manchester City set-up there are a lot of players that are really old and apart from one or two players that was brought into the team it is virtually the same players who has been there over the years and again some key players even left the team and still expecting a good result from this team is one big mistake that pep is doing this semester because but going into the Madrid game city even out performed my expectations concerning them because for them to even with stand this Madrid team for up to even 60 minutes is even a plus to them because even when Manchester was at their peak they could not win Madrid but the fact is that with or without Old or younger players city will still lose to Madrid currently
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on February 13, 2025, 09:30:21 PM
Two teams from Serie A yesterday faced a bitter reality because they both lost. AC Milan and Atalanta both lost. Even though I hope both of them can win. But it seems my hopes were too big. AC Milan failed to take advantage of the opportunities they got. And yes, it must be admitted that Feyenoord's defense is quite solid. And regarding Atalanta, they lost due to a penalty kick that Club Brugge received in the added minute of time.
Yeah that's what they had to put up with in the first leg....
Overall Atalanta and Milan played poorly last night but they can avenge this defeat at home in the second leg.
There is still potential for both teams to qualify, I guess it's just a matter of maximizing the game at home.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: bounceback on February 13, 2025, 09:52:04 PM
Yeah that's what they had to put up with in the first leg....
Overall Atalanta and Milan played poorly last night but they can avenge this defeat at home in the second leg.
There is still potential for both teams to qualify, I guess it's just a matter of maximizing the game at home.
The Serie A teams have bad result for the first leg match UEFA Champion League play off round after Milan and Atalanta got defeated, only Juventus secure the winning result after defeating Feyenoord but looks not comfortable yet for second leg match round because have one winning goals only for the first leg.
Not close yet opportunity for Milan or Atalanta get qualifying to knock out round if can win on second leg match because they will play at home.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on February 13, 2025, 10:28:18 PM
Yeah that's what they had to put up with in the first leg....
Overall Atalanta and Milan played poorly last night but they can avenge this defeat at home in the second leg.
There is still potential for both teams to qualify, I guess it's just a matter of maximizing the game at home.
The Serie A teams have bad result for the first leg match UEFA Champion League play off round after Milan and Atalanta got defeated, only Juventus secure the winning result after defeating Feyenoord but looks not comfortable yet for second leg match round because have one winning goals only for the first leg.
Not close yet opportunity for Milan or Atalanta get qualifying to knock out round if can win on second leg match because they will play at home.
A slight correction that Juventus beat PSV at home.

Believe that playing at home has a strong motivation from its fans that can improve their game later, then it is possible to win at home.

Of course the opposing team will try to win but the host's chances will be much higher.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on February 13, 2025, 11:13:21 PM
The Serie A teams have bad result for the first leg match UEFA Champion League play off round after Milan and Atalanta got defeated, only Juventus secure the winning result after defeating Feyenoord but looks not comfortable yet for second leg match round because have one winning goals only for the first leg.
Not close yet opportunity for Milan or Atalanta get qualifying to knock out round if can win on second leg match because they will play at home.
Yes, that's right, in this first leg only Juventus from Serie A won, due to the advantage of playing at Juventus' home ground. Although the aggregate is not too far, which is 2-1, at least Juventus has pocketed 2 goals. Well, this will still be a struggle that must be done more seriously in the second leg. At least if they can maintain a draw, then Juventus will qualify. Juventus has a pretty good defense, this time, they should also be able to optimize it to minimize goals from PSV.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on February 13, 2025, 11:15:09 PM
The Serie A teams have bad result for the first leg match UEFA Champion League play off round after Milan and Atalanta got defeated, only Juventus secure the winning result after defeating Feyenoord but looks not comfortable yet for second leg match round because have one winning goals only for the first leg.
Not close yet opportunity for Milan or Atalanta get qualifying to knock out round if can win on second leg match because they will play at home.
You're right. Both AC Milan and Atalanta got a defeat, it makes people to think that Serie A teams are weaker now. However, it was an away match for AC Milan and Atalanta, they will play at home in the second leg. I'm sure both AC Milan and Atalanta will have a chance to equalize the goals in the next leg. If they can score 2 goals without a conceded goal, they will be qualified for the next round. For Juventus, they secured their chance in the first leg. But they must be careful because they will play away in the next leg.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on February 14, 2025, 12:37:25 AM
The Serie A teams have bad result for the first leg match UEFA Champion League play off round after Milan and Atalanta got defeated, only Juventus secure the winning result after defeating Feyenoord but looks not comfortable yet for second leg match round because have one winning goals only for the first leg.
Not close yet opportunity for Milan or Atalanta get qualifying to knock out round if can win on second leg match because they will play at home.
Yes, that's right, in this first leg only Juventus from Serie A won, due to the advantage of playing at Juventus' home ground. Although the aggregate is not too far, which is 2-1, at least Juventus has pocketed 2 goals. Well, this will still be a struggle that must be done more seriously in the second leg. At least if they can maintain a draw, then Juventus will qualify. Juventus has a pretty good defense, this time, they should also be able to optimize it to minimize goals from PSV.

Despite the loss for Atalanta and Milan, both teams are still the favorites to make it to the next round, of course that's not an indication that either or both of them would turn the tie around in the second leg, but it just shows that there is still everything to play for and neither of the tie is completely decided just yet.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 14, 2025, 12:55:21 AM
Two teams from Serie A yesterday faced a bitter reality because they both lost. AC Milan and Atalanta both lost. Even though I hope both of them can win. But it seems my hopes were too big. AC Milan failed to take advantage of the opportunities they got. And yes, it must be admitted that Feyenoord's defense is quite solid. And regarding Atalanta, they lost due to a penalty kick that Club Brugge received in the added minute of time.
Yeah that's what they had to put up with in the first leg....
Overall Atalanta and Milan played poorly last night but they can avenge this defeat at home in the second leg.
There is still potential for both teams to qualify, I guess it's just a matter of maximizing the game at home.
Yes, sometimes playing as host can indeed bring better results for a team. So there is still hope for Atalanta and AC Milan. It's just that in the second leg, Atalanta and AC Milan will really have to fight hard. Because they have to make a difference of two goals to win and qualify for the next stage in the UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on February 14, 2025, 01:45:01 PM
AC Milan could not score a single goal so they had to go home with a defeat in this match. They had difficulty facing Feyenoord's defense which I think is quite solid, also there was bad luck every time they attacked so they had to lose.
Two teams from Serie A yesterday faced a bitter reality because they both lost. AC Milan and Atalanta both lost. Even though I hope both of them can win. But it seems my hopes were too big. AC Milan failed to take advantage of the opportunities they got. And yes, it must be admitted that Feyenoord's defense is quite solid. And regarding Atalanta, they lost due to a penalty kick that Club Brugge received in the added minute of time.
Ah yes Atalanta also had to experience defeat in this match, they could not win just like AC Milan.

But just like AC Milan, they still have a chance in the second leg later to be able to turn things around. Atalanta experienced a very painful defeat, because they had to lose in the final minutes after the opponent was able to score a goal in extra time, even though at that time I thought they would get a draw.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on February 14, 2025, 08:52:38 PM
Ah yes Atalanta also had to experience defeat in this match, they could not win just like AC Milan.
Atalanta spoilt many tickets. It was a win that most gamblers who put them in selection never expected. Atalanta was meant to win that game; football happened, and they lost it. Sportsbook won.

The second round of the play-offs will be tougher and will have games hard to predict the outcome. Most games that we think are over are far from over.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on February 14, 2025, 09:34:44 PM
Atalanta spoilt many tickets. It was a win that most gamblers who put them in selection never expected. Atalanta was meant to win that game; football happened, and they lost it. Sportsbook won.

The second round of the play-offs will be tougher and will have games hard to predict the outcome. Most games that we think are over are far from over.

Many gamblers were disappointed with the outcome of the game between Atalanta and Club Briggs, if Atalanta does not win, I wasn't expecting them to lose but the visitor lost with the goal they conceded last minute during the game. I didn't lose my bet, I bet over 2.5 goals and the match ended up 2-1.

Atalanta is performing well in the Seria A matches, perhaps, the absence of Lookman is affecting their attacking players, while they find it difficult to score in their Champions League matches, I hope they bounce back in the second leg because it will be early if they get eliminate in the Champions League at this stage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on February 14, 2025, 09:36:08 PM
Two teams from Serie A yesterday faced a bitter reality because they both lost. AC Milan and Atalanta both lost. Even though I hope both of them can win. But it seems my hopes were too big. AC Milan failed to take advantage of the opportunities they got. And yes, it must be admitted that Feyenoord's defense is quite solid. And regarding Atalanta, they lost due to a penalty kick that Club Brugge received in the added minute of time.
Yeah that's what they had to put up with in the first leg....
Overall Atalanta and Milan played poorly last night but they can avenge this defeat at home in the second leg.
There is still potential for both teams to qualify, I guess it's just a matter of maximizing the game at home.
Yes, sometimes playing as host can indeed bring better results for a team. So there is still hope for Atalanta and AC Milan. It's just that in the second leg, Atalanta and AC Milan will really have to fight hard. Because they have to make a difference of two goals to win and qualify for the next stage in the UCL.
That's what Serie A teams have to do, they have to be able to play with more attacking insistence to be able to add more goals, if the game is slow like the first leg I'm not sure it will qualify.
Now all opportunities must become goals because the opportunity should not be wasted.
My prediction Atalanta and AC Milan are likely to qualify relying on home matches.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 14, 2025, 09:48:20 PM
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Mistakes must occur for the other side to take advantage of and win the match. Pep believes mors in his old players than new players because they're more experienced when playing Real Madrid. However, what makes you think that the new players would have been able to make a difference or win Madrid. The fact is that Pep glory was from his old players but they're aging.

You've just answered your own question: the old players are getting older. :)
Players are like tools. Signing new players is like upgrading old tools to new ones—new tools to solve their problems.
New players may not guarantee 100% that City will win the match, but at least City's chances of winning are greater. IMO
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on February 14, 2025, 10:53:06 PM
Yes, sometimes playing as host can indeed bring better results for a team. So there is still hope for Atalanta and AC Milan. It's just that in the second leg, Atalanta and AC Milan will really have to fight hard. Because they have to make a difference of two goals to win and qualify for the next stage in the UCL.

The two Seria A teams who played the second day of the Champions League playoffs were defeated in away game and it was a disappointing result for both teams. We believed that Atalanta were rubbed in last minute of the game because the referee awarded a penalty, which doesn't seemed to be a foul in my opinion. On the other hand, AC Milan conceded a goal 3 minutes into the game and they find it difficult to equalize.

Atalanta and AC Milan will be hosting the second leg, which will give them the high chance of winning the match. AC Milan performed well in the first leg but the victory wasn't on their side. They had 6 shots on target during with zero goal and Feyenoord who had 2 shots on target, won by one goal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on February 15, 2025, 12:27:21 PM
Ah yes Atalanta also had to experience defeat in this match, they could not win just like AC Milan.
Atalanta spoilt many tickets. It was a win that most gamblers who put them in selection never expected. Atalanta was meant to win that game; football happened, and they lost it. Sportsbook won.

The second round of the play-offs will be tougher and will have games hard to predict the outcome. Most games that we think are over are far from over.
You are right, most of the matches are not completely finished, because in the second leg there are still many opportunities for the team that lost in the first leg to be able to turn things around.

Maybe there are only a few teams that can be said to be finished, even though they are not finished. For example, Galatasaray who had to lose with a fairly big score in the first leg. Yes, they had to lose with a score of 4-1.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 15, 2025, 09:16:07 PM
Ah yes Atalanta also had to experience defeat in this match, they could not win just like AC Milan.
Atalanta spoilt many tickets. It was a win that most gamblers who put them in selection never expected. Atalanta was meant to win that game; football happened, and they lost it. Sportsbook won.

The second round of the play-offs will be tougher and will have games hard to predict the outcome. Most games that we think are over are far from over.
You are right, most of the matches are not completely finished, because in the second leg there are still many opportunities for the team that lost in the first leg to be able to turn things around.

Maybe there are only a few teams that can be said to be finished, even though they are not finished. For example, Galatasaray who had to lose with a fairly big score in the first leg. Yes, they had to lose with a score of 4-1.
All the champions League playoffs games are still open for any of the team's that lose to come back apart from sporting and and breast that lost 3:0 each other teams can still come back and win because the goal margin in other games is not much because football is one dynamic sport that is full of surprises so i will not be really disappointed if any of the teams that win in the first leg don't make it to the next round
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Didia Sofunichi on February 15, 2025, 10:46:40 PM
The champions league slots in the English premier league is still very dicey as the slot third and four are still very much open. With Manchester City's renewed form they might still get a slot, who knows
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on February 15, 2025, 11:11:14 PM
The champions league slots in the English premier league is still very dicey as the slot third and four are still very much open. With Manchester City's renewed form they might still get a slot, who knows
Manchester City are already in 4th position, and I doubt that they will lose this advantage that they have currently, especially with the new players they have in the team who are doing so well already.

I will not even be surprised to see them finish second because the difference in points from what they have and what we have as Arsenal is not so much.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on February 16, 2025, 12:08:04 PM
You are right, most of the matches are not completely finished, because in the second leg there are still many opportunities for the team that lost in the first leg to be able to turn things around.

Maybe there are only a few teams that can be said to be finished, even though they are not finished. For example, Galatasaray who had to lose with a fairly big score in the first leg. Yes, they had to lose with a score of 4-1.
All the champions League playoffs games are still open for any of the team's that lose to come back apart from sporting and and breast that lost 3:0 each other teams can still come back and win because the goal margin in other games is not much because football is one dynamic sport that is full of surprises so i will not be really disappointed if any of the teams that win in the first leg don't make it to the next round
Maybe you mean Sporting vs Borussia Dortmund, not Liverpool. because Liverpool has already been in the last 16 and is not in the play-off match now.

Indeed, the match will be very difficult to change in the second leg. With a 3-goal advantage held by Borussia Dortmund, it makes them already sure of one foot in the last 16.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 16, 2025, 10:21:50 PM
You are right, most of the matches are not completely finished, because in the second leg there are still many opportunities for the team that lost in the first leg to be able to turn things around.

Maybe there are only a few teams that can be said to be finished, even though they are not finished. For example, Galatasaray who had to lose with a fairly big score in the first leg. Yes, they had to lose with a score of 4-1.
All the champions League playoffs games are still open for any of the team's that lose to come back apart from sporting and and breast that lost 3:0 each other teams can still come back and win because the goal margin in other games is not much because football is one dynamic sport that is full of surprises so i will not be really disappointed if any of the teams that win in the first leg don't make it to the next round
Maybe you mean Sporting vs Borussia Dortmund, not Liverpool. because Liverpool has already been in the last 16 and is not in the play-off match now.

Indeed, the match will be very difficult to change in the second leg. With a 3-goal advantage held by Borussia Dortmund, it makes them already sure of one foot in the last 16.
Maybe your  quoting  the wrong person because I don't think I mention liverpool in my write-up the two teams that I mention was sporting cp and breast who Both lost to Dortmund and PSG respectively by 3 goals each with the way that the first leg was played the possibility of these two teams overturning the results for the first leg  results will be hard because both PSG and Dortmund will be playing at home respectively making it even more difficult for sporting and breast
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on February 16, 2025, 11:42:31 PM
The champions league slots in the English premier league is still very dicey as the slot third and four are still very much open. With Manchester City's renewed form they might still get a slot, who knows
Considering get new slot for premier league teams depend on how higher round reach by the current premier league teams participants in this season. If can reach until final round have possibility will get new slot as other league such as Serie A and Bundesliga with 5 slot teams but La Liga and Premier League only have 4 teams slot only.
But Manchester City as one of four premier league teams participants in this season on bad position after defeating by Madrid at first leg playoff round match, if eliminate at playoff round looks difficult for premier league teams get another additional slot for next season and still only have four participants teams will play at Champion League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 17, 2025, 02:08:26 AM
Real Madrid and Man City obtained quite surprising results in their respective domestic leagues. Real Madrid failed to collect full points in their latest match in Laliga. Meanwhile, Man City managed to win hands down with a pretty good performance in the Premier League. Do you think Man City will turn things around in the second leg or will it just be the same as in the first leg?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 17, 2025, 09:47:08 PM
Real Madrid and Man City obtained quite surprising results in their respective domestic leagues. Real Madrid failed to collect full points in their latest match in Laliga. Meanwhile, Man City managed to win hands down with a pretty good performance in the Premier League. Do you think Man City will turn things around in the second leg or will it just be the same as in the first leg?
It's true that city recorded a convincing result this week end put you can't you that as a yastic to  say that city is going to overturn the results of the first leg of the champions League beside don't forget that Real Madrid is not coming into this game with pressure all what Madrid needs is just a draw it will be enough to see them through to the round of sixteen and playing at home is an added advantage to them
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pieppiep on February 17, 2025, 11:11:33 PM
Real Madrid and Man City obtained quite surprising results in their respective domestic leagues. Real Madrid failed to collect full points in their latest match in Laliga. Meanwhile, Man City managed to win hands down with a pretty good performance in the Premier League. Do you think Man City will turn things around in the second leg or will it just be the same as in the first leg?
The result which happened was definitely not something hoped for, particularly for those would have wished for a continuation in the next match. Man City did prove that they are far improved from the previous seasons, but this does not guarantee them to succeed as expected. However, even in this case they were not able to get optimum outcomes in the last match although you can still consider one thing which is in their favour. Meaning, if the game will remain to be the same, in the course of the match, most likely that the pattern will follow the same track as before. But we have a chance for a different storey, we cannot but refer to the fact that pressure within the match is also a decisive factor.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on February 17, 2025, 11:29:38 PM
It's true that city recorded a convincing result this week end put you can't you that as a yastic to  say that city is going to overturn the results of the first leg of the champions League beside don't forget that Real Madrid is not coming into this game with pressure all what Madrid needs is just a draw it will be enough to see them through to the round of sixteen and playing at home is an added advantage to them
If Real Madrid chooses to enter this game with the mindset of just getting a draw, they will lose the game because they have to have the same attacking mindset that they had in the first leg that earned them a victory. They have to be ready to go all out again and make sure to silence Manchester City this season.

Any result short of a win for Real Madrid will be considered disappointing.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 18, 2025, 11:29:43 AM
The team that I will favor for today's 4 matches in the Champions League is

- AC Milan vs Feyenoord (AC Milan)
- Atalanta vs Club Brugge (Atalanta)
- Bayern Munich vs Celtic (Bayern)
- Benfica vs Monaco (Benfica)

AC Milan may have lost in the first leg because Feyenoord was the host, but I'm sure AC Milan will be able to turn things around in the second leg today. And for Benfica I won't comment much because this team deserves to be favorite based on their quality since the first leg. And for Atalanta, just like AC Milan, this team will try to turn things around. And Bayern will also no doubt beat Celtic a second time. What are your choices?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on February 18, 2025, 03:23:10 PM
- Atalanta vs Club Brugge (Atalanta)
Atalanta were my selection to win the first game; they lost. I will not be surprised that they lose again. I am not as confident in them this season as I was last season.

The only team in which I am confident in the performance they will deliver today is Bayern Munich. With the advantage they already have in the first leg, they will be able to play confidently.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 18, 2025, 07:26:58 PM
In the champions League second leg game that is being played to AC Milan scored a early goal in the first minutes to lead feyernoord by a goal to nill in Italy the early goal that was scored is a very divisive goal as it has leveled things up in the game with the way things now AC Milan could score a second goal to qualify because Milan looks more hungry in the game as they have created more chances in the game with two shorts on target while feyernoord has not gotten any shorts on target i think Milan will go through to the round of sixteen in the competition
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 18, 2025, 07:33:24 PM
The team that I will favor for today's 4 matches in the Champions League is

- AC Milan vs Feyenoord (AC Milan)


AC Milan has failed to progress from five of their six UEFA Champions League matches when losing the first leg.
That statistic doesn't inspire confidence in their chances of bouncing back. At some point, consistency has to match ambition if want to go far in the UCL competition.
But Milan is my club and Feyenoord is not a special club so I still believe Milan will win and qualify for the next round. :)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 18, 2025, 07:52:20 PM
The team that I will favor for today's 4 matches in the Champions League is

- AC Milan vs Feyenoord (AC Milan)


AC Milan has failed to progress from five of their six UEFA Champions League matches when losing the first leg.
That statistic doesn't inspire confidence in their chances of bouncing back. At some point, consistency has to match ambition if want to go far in the UCL competition.
But Milan is my club and Feyenoord is not a special club so I still believe Milan will win and qualify for the next round. :)
I don't think that record is going to work today because Milan is looking the better side to in the first half so far they were able to score a goal and has had more chances in the game especially in front of the opposition box so am quite confident that Milan is going to come out victorious in this game but the second half is another different ball game entirely so they have to be more clinical in front of goals
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on February 18, 2025, 08:30:01 PM
The team that I will favor for today's 4 matches in the Champions League is

- AC Milan vs Feyenoord (AC Milan)


AC Milan has failed to progress from five of their six UEFA Champions League matches when losing the first leg.
That statistic doesn't inspire confidence in their chances of bouncing back. At some point, consistency has to match ambition if want to go far in the UCL competition.
But Milan is my club and Feyenoord is not a special club so I still believe Milan will win and qualify for the next round. :)
I don't think that record is going to work today because Milan is looking the better side to in the first half so far they were able to score a goal and has had more chances in the game especially in front of the opposition box so am quite confident that Milan is going to come out victorious in this game but the second half is another different ball game entirely so they have to be more clinical in front of goals

The match has taken a completely different turn now and it's even going to be tougher now for AC Milan to make to the next round, Feyenoord have restored parity and the scores is currently 1-1, meanwhile AC Milan are also down to 10 men, after Theo Hernandez was sent off in the early stages of the second half. It's going to be interesting to see how the play out in the final 10 minutes of the match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 18, 2025, 08:36:50 PM
The team that I will favor for today's 4 matches in the Champions League is

- AC Milan vs Feyenoord (AC Milan)


AC Milan has failed to progress from five of their six UEFA Champions League matches when losing the first leg.
That statistic doesn't inspire confidence in their chances of bouncing back. At some point, consistency has to match ambition if want to go far in the UCL competition.
But Milan is my club and Feyenoord is not a special club so I still believe Milan will win and qualify for the next round. :)
Waoo it looks like the bad record that you gave is still working against Milan as they have gotten a red card in the 51' of the game that made them to struggle and feyernoord got the needed goal at the 73' minute to level things up this is a very bad situation that Milan has find it self exiting the competition in this stage of the competition is what most people didn't expect from Milan the game is at 90'th minutes and it will only a miracle to score another goal here
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 18, 2025, 09:02:17 PM
The team that I will favor for today's 4 matches in the Champions League is

- AC Milan vs Feyenoord (AC Milan)


AC Milan has failed to progress from five of their six UEFA Champions League matches when losing the first leg.
That statistic doesn't inspire confidence in their chances of bouncing back. At some point, consistency has to match ambition if want to go far in the UCL competition.
But Milan is my club and Feyenoord is not a special club so I still believe Milan will win and qualify for the next round. :)
Waoo it looks like the bad record that you gave is still working against Milan as they have gotten a red card in the 51' of the game that made them to struggle and feyernoord got the needed goal at the 73' minute to level things up this is a very bad situation that Milan has find it self exiting the competition in this stage of the competition is what most people didn't expect from Milan the game is at 90'th minutes and it will only a miracle to score another goal here

Once again... My head broke my heart. How unfair life is :(
Theo Hernandez thought he could cheat but instead, he got sent off and gave away our dream of advancing to the next round. lol
In 2 games Feyernord shot just 3 times at goal and scored 2 goals. Good job Maignan.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on February 18, 2025, 09:32:36 PM
Atalanta were my selection to win the first game; they lost. I will not be surprised that they lose again. I am not as confident in them this season as I was last season.
First half score, and Atalanta are trailing by two goals even with the home advantage, which some people may say is the reason Brugge won the first leg. There's still enough time in the game, but I do not think that Atlanta will be able to come back from this loss and equalize the game; if they can, it will be one of the greatest comebacks in the history of the Champions League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: debra on February 19, 2025, 12:00:00 AM
The team that I will favor for today's 4 matches in the Champions League is

- AC Milan vs Feyenoord (AC Milan)
- Atalanta vs Club Brugge (Atalanta)
- Bayern Munich vs Celtic (Bayern)
- Benfica vs Monaco (Benfica)

AC Milan may have lost in the first leg because Feyenoord was the host, but I'm sure AC Milan will be able to turn things around in the second leg today. And for Benfica I won't comment much because this team deserves to be favorite based on their quality since the first leg. And for Atalanta, just like AC Milan, this team will try to turn things around. And Bayern will also no doubt beat Celtic a second time. What are your choices?

AC Milan 1-1 Feyenoord
Benfica 3-3 Monaco
Atalanta 1-3 Brugge
Bayern Munich 1-1 Celtic

The teams which are qualified for the next round are Bayern Munich, Feyenoord, Benfica, and Club Brugge. AC Milan and Atalanta have been eliminated from UCL. Serie A only has Juventus in this tournament, Juventus must get a draw at least. If they can get a draw or win in PSV home tomorrow, they will go to the next round.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 19, 2025, 01:37:16 PM
Atalanta were my selection to win the first game; they lost. I will not be surprised that they lose again. I am not as confident in them this season as I was last season.
First half score, and Atalanta are trailing by two goals even with the home advantage, which some people may say is the reason Brugge won the first leg. There's still enough time in the game, but I do not think that Atlanta will be able to come back from this loss and equalize the game; if they can, it will be one of the greatest comebacks in the history of the Champions League.

Atalanta's European campaign has ended prematurely, much like that of Milan
a tough blow for the fans and team, really a big blow, and a disappointing moment for Italian football.
A disgraceful performance for them, getting knocked out by a team should have beaten over two legs.
They have a better team and a much more expensive squad, player for player.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 19, 2025, 02:39:02 PM
Once again... My head broke my heart. How unfair life is :(
Theo Hernandez thought he could cheat but instead, he got sent off and gave away our dream of advancing to the next round. lol
In 2 games Feyernord shot just 3 times at goal and scored 2 goals. Good job Maignan.
AC Milan played very well, but the red card really ruined their game. And yes, of course it is difficult to win by only relying on 10 players. Well this is really disappointing and quite painful for those of us who bet on AC Milan. But Feyenoord really has luck this season in the Champions League. And congratulations for successfully advancing to the round of 16.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on February 19, 2025, 03:08:00 PM
Once again... My head broke my heart. How unfair life is :(
Theo Hernandez thought he could cheat but instead, he got sent off and gave away our dream of advancing to the next round. lol
In 2 games Feyernord shot just 3 times at goal and scored 2 goals. Good job Maignan.
AC Milan played very well, but the red card really ruined their game. And yes, of course it is difficult to win by only relying on 10 players. Well this is really disappointing and quite painful for those of us who bet on AC Milan. But Feyenoord really has luck this season in the Champions League. And congratulations for successfully advancing to the round of 16.

Yes, but a professional like Theo cannot make these errors, errors that cost the team the game and the Champions League
When these situations exist, I always think, as people who are paid and treated as super professionals to behave in this way and be thrown out of the game, I honestly do not understand it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 19, 2025, 07:16:24 PM
Once again... My head broke my heart. How unfair life is :(
Theo Hernandez thought he could cheat but instead, he got sent off and gave away our dream of advancing to the next round. lol
In 2 games Feyernord shot just 3 times at goal and scored 2 goals. Good job Maignan.
AC Milan played very well, but the red card really ruined their game. And yes, of course it is difficult to win by only relying on 10 players. Well this is really disappointing and quite painful for those of us who bet on AC Milan. But Feyenoord really has luck this season in the Champions League. And congratulations for successfully advancing to the round of 16.
I think Milan should blame themselves rather than putting it on red card because even before the red card they were not that fantastic after their goal in the first minutes of the game they where not hungry for victory because coming into a game like this there will have been an urgency and seriousness but they let feyernoord back to the game after the their goal in the starting minutes of the game even before the red card which was later in the second half so I didn't think that the red card was the main reason why Milan was not able to win this game they where not mentally prepared for the game so they have their selves to be blamed I think it is even good for them because even at home they have not been doing that well so they will have to focus more on the Seria A and see how they can qualify for the champions League next season
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on February 20, 2025, 12:10:35 AM
Kylian Mbappé demolished Manchester city

The Wonderboy Mbappé got a hat-trick in today's second leg with Manchester city in what was supposed to be a revenge from Manchester city. This lands is to this discussion, is this actually the failing point of Manchester City? Is this the glorious end of Guardiola's reign or you think he could resurrect next season?

Let me have your thoughts. Meanwhile, Mbappé is on his way to claiming this season's balloon d'Or. I'll really feel bad if he wins this ahead of Vini Junior
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 20, 2025, 08:55:40 AM
Kylian Mbappé demolished Manchester city

The Wonderboy Mbappé got a hat-trick in today's second leg with Manchester city in what was supposed to be a revenge from Manchester city. This lands is to this discussion, is this actually the failing point of Manchester City? Is this the glorious end of Guardiola's reign or you think he could resurrect next season?

Let me have your thoughts. Meanwhile, Mbappé is on his way to claiming this season's balloon d'Or. I'll really feel bad if he wins this ahead of Vini Junior

If Madrid plays every game like they play and are at the level they are today, no club can beat them but Ancelotti drives me crazy sometimes, how can a team play so well in some games and so badly in others?
And yeah, Mbappe is spectacular! Donatello has adapted to Real Madrid's game, now he will write his own story at the club.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on February 20, 2025, 11:38:11 AM
Man City's defense were caught sleeping in the first goal and never woke up after that ;D Mbappe could have gotten four goals if not for the rare great stop by the City goalkeeper. After dispatching Pep's team, there's a chance they could be facing another tough opponent in Atletico Madrid. The football Gods probably hates them if the draw turns out that way ;D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 20, 2025, 01:30:42 PM
Man City's defense were caught sleeping in the first goal and never woke up after that ;D Mbappe could have gotten four goals if not for the rare great stop by the City goalkeeper. After dispatching Pep's team, there's a chance they could be facing another tough opponent in Atletico Madrid. The football Gods probably hates them if the draw turns out that way ;D
Yesterday's match was quite impressive for Real Madrid. And I think in this play-off round Real Madrid gave a strong impression to all clubs that they could even beat Man City quite easily. So Real Madrid's strength, which was in doubt at the start of the season, must now begin to be taken into account again. And I think with their current performance and with Mbappe's epic performance, Real Madrid's attack line will be really difficult to stop. And I think everyone will now even feel quite confident about Real Madrid being able to progress further in the UCL convincingly.

Now I am really looking forward to how they will perform in the round of 16. And I wonder which team will face Real Madrid. And we can be sure that the team is in an unlucky situation.  ;D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on February 20, 2025, 01:58:38 PM
Real Madrid played very well in this match, they showed a good game so that they could ensure themselves to be in the last 16 of the Champions League, and once again they managed to eliminate Manchester City.

Mbappe became a nightmare for Manchester City with the 3 goals he managed to create. Yes, I think this player will be a player hated by Manchester City fans.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pieppiep on February 20, 2025, 02:10:31 PM
Real Madrid played very well in this match, they showed a good game so that they could ensure themselves to be in the last 16 of the Champions League, and once again they managed to eliminate Manchester City.

Mbappe became a nightmare for Manchester City with the 3 goals he managed to create. Yes, I think this player will be a player hated by Manchester City fans.
Yes, this match is always very interesting, especially when two teams considered to be giants clash for a match which is very charged. The members of the team that will be able to guarantee continuous performance and timely advancement will most certainly bring out the best outcome. That is why the victory earned is reflected not only in the strategic approach but also the level of wits and perceptive of the players in confronting adversaries. It can also be seen that scoring goals in important games does show that a certain player is great especially when he has the capability to look for the ball in crucial times. This proves that perseverance in the sport wouldn’t go unrewarded as one can gain a satisfactory outcome through dedication. It is always interesting to pay attention to competition of the highest class and their outcome always produces various reactions of football fans.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on February 20, 2025, 03:06:33 PM
If Madrid plays every game like they play and are at the level they are today, no club can beat them but Ancelotti drives me crazy sometimes, how can a team play so well in some games and so badly in others?
And yeah, Mbappe is spectacular! Donatello has adapted to Real Madrid's game, now he will write his own story at the club.

That's my problem with Real Madrid. They don't play like this when you expected them to score the way they flog Manchester City. If they have been paying like this in their domestic league, I don't think Barcelona will shine even small this season but it's because they have not been active other teams are not seeing how they can win games potentially.

Mbape has been struggling with champions league but having hatrick might be the sighn that indeed he can take the Champions League. The only thing they need now is to win the know out stage and have the 3 points in every match they play.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 20, 2025, 04:45:13 PM

Mbape has been struggling with champions league but having hatrick might be the sighn that indeed he can take the Champions League. The only thing they need now is to win the know out stage and have the 3 points in every match they play.

Yeah. Mbappe is an absolute masterclass and his place in the team is now cemented. However, there is still a long way to go and Madrid must focus on every game. Consistency and experience could be the keys to competing at the highest level.
We will find out tomorrow who they will face in the last 16: Atlético or Bayer Leverkusen.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 20, 2025, 07:30:09 PM

Mbape has been struggling with champions league but having hatrick might be the sighn that indeed he can take the Champions League. The only thing they need now is to win the know out stage and have the 3 points in every match they play.

Yeah. Mbappe is an absolute masterclass and his place in the team is now cemented. However, there is still a long way to go and Madrid must focus on every game. Consistency and experience could be the keys to competing at the highest level.
We will find out tomorrow who they will face in the last 16: Atlético or Bayer Leverkusen.
Madrid is one team that gives their best when it comes to the champions League so am quite confident that any team that they will be paired up against in the round of sixteen will be afraid of Madrid because I  can say with all confidence that Madrid is the team to beat this season in the champions League I see Madrid going far if not winning the champions League title this season even though it's far to be talking about who's favorite to win with the games that I have watched from the group stage and even to the playoffs Madrid has been outstanding even though they started poorly at the start of the competition
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on February 20, 2025, 08:29:06 PM

Mbape has been struggling with champions league but having hatrick might be the sighn that indeed he can take the Champions League. The only thing they need now is to win the know out stage and have the 3 points in every match they play.

Yeah. Mbappe is an absolute masterclass and his place in the team is now cemented. However, there is still a long way to go and Madrid must focus on every game. Consistency and experience could be the keys to competing at the highest level.
We will find out tomorrow who they will face in the last 16: Atlético or Bayer Leverkusen.
It might be somehow tough for Madrid if they face Atletico, because Atletico is also a team that is in form and a rival to Madrid. But if they clash with Leverkusen, they will find it easier. Madrid attackers is superb but they still have a defensive problem and if they meet with a club that has a sharp attack like them, it might be a problem for them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on February 20, 2025, 10:33:36 PM

Mbape has been struggling with champions league but having hatrick might be the sighn that indeed he can take the Champions League. The only thing they need now is to win the know out stage and have the 3 points in every match they play.
Mbappe has entered the list of Real Madrid players who have scored hat tricks in the Champions League match for Real Madrid. It was unexpected that Mbappe could score hat tricks against Manchester City.

However, the round of 16 has all become a successful qualification for Real Madrid with extraordinary performance. Their next Champions League match to play is unknown. I just hope they have all good like this, to win it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on February 20, 2025, 11:46:17 PM

Mbape has been struggling with champions league but having hatrick might be the sighn that indeed he can take the Champions League. The only thing they need now is to win the know out stage and have the 3 points in every match they play.
Mbappe has entered the list of Real Madrid players who have scored hat tricks in the Champions League match for Real Madrid. It was unexpected that Mbappe could score hat tricks against Manchester City.

However, the round of 16 has all become a successful qualification for Real Madrid with extraordinary performance. Their next Champions League match to play is unknown. I just hope they have all good like this, to win it.
Mbappe has found himself at Real Madrid, so he is always on fire every time he plays.

There is no doubt that Real Madrid can always step easily even if it is a difficult opponent, and now waiting for the draw for the round of 16, it will be more interesting if Real Madrid meets an equal team again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on February 21, 2025, 12:16:37 AM
The round of 16 draw is scheduled for tomorrow, but here's a nice graphic showing all the potential matches:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/02/20/qI4nZ.png)

For more info on the rules see: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c5yr5vm001xo

I think it's safe to say that the potentially most exciting game will be PSG facing either Liverpool or Barcelona. PSG might have been disappointing in the league stage, but they got past Brest easily, destroying them 10-0 in aggregate, so maybe they have woken up just in time for the final rounds.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on February 21, 2025, 02:33:23 AM

Mbape has been struggling with champions league but having hatrick might be the sighn that indeed he can take the Champions League. The only thing they need now is to win the know out stage and have the 3 points in every match they play.

Yeah. Mbappe is an absolute masterclass and his place in the team is now cemented. However, there is still a long way to go and Madrid must focus on every game. Consistency and experience could be the keys to competing at the highest level.
We will find out tomorrow who they will face in the last 16: Atlético or Bayer Leverkusen.
Mbappe started gradually in Real Madrid and now it seems that he is on fire. It wasn't easy for him to adapt when he came newly because there was alot of expectations of him and he was in a haste to fulfill them, which was why he was always frustrated when things don't go the way he planned them.
Kylian Mbappé is awoken and it is time for him to write his own history in the club but I won't like him to do this at the expense of Vini Junior, it would be very much unfair I think.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on February 21, 2025, 01:44:59 PM
Real Madrid played very well in this match, they showed a good game so that they could ensure themselves to be in the last 16 of the Champions League, and once again they managed to eliminate Manchester City.

Mbappe became a nightmare for Manchester City with the 3 goals he managed to create. Yes, I think this player will be a player hated by Manchester City fans.
Yes, this match is always very interesting, especially when two teams considered to be giants clash for a match which is very charged. The members of the team that will be able to guarantee continuous performance and timely advancement will most certainly bring out the best outcome. That is why the victory earned is reflected not only in the strategic approach but also the level of wits and perceptive of the players in confronting adversaries. It can also be seen that scoring goals in important games does show that a certain player is great especially when he has the capability to look for the ball in crucial times. This proves that perseverance in the sport wouldn’t go unrewarded as one can gain a satisfactory outcome through dedication. It is always interesting to pay attention to competition of the highest class and their outcome always produces various reactions of football fans.
On the other hand, it cannot be denied that Manchester City this season is not in good condition, we can see it from their game which is not like previous seasons. This season it seems like they are facing too many problems so that it has an impact on their performance on the field.

In the last few seasons, this is the first time Manchester City has had to fall early. Yes, although here there is also a factor where they are unlucky in getting opponents.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 21, 2025, 03:52:16 PM
Finally, the draw for the matches in the round of 16 has been released. And it seems that some big teams are not faced with other big teams. except Liverpool who have to face PSG. It will be quite a fierce match. Although I'm sure Liverpool will be many favorites. But for Bayern Munich and Real Madrid it seems like they both have to face clubs from the same league. Bayern Munich will face Leverkusen and Madrid will face Atletico Madrid. Well this will be very interesting because it will be quite painful to have to eliminate a team that comes from the same league.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 21, 2025, 05:25:29 PM

Mbape has been struggling with champions league but having hatrick might be the sighn that indeed he can take the Champions League. The only thing they need now is to win the know out stage and have the 3 points in every match they play.

Yeah. Mbappe is an absolute masterclass and his place in the team is now cemented. However, there is still a long way to go and Madrid must focus on every game. Consistency and experience could be the keys to competing at the highest level.
We will find out tomorrow who they will face in the last 16: Atlético or Bayer Leverkusen.
It might be somehow tough for Madrid if they face Atletico, because Atletico is also a team that is in form and a rival to Madrid. But if they clash with Leverkusen, they will find it easier. Madrid attackers is superb but they still have a defensive problem and if they meet with a club that has a sharp attack like them, it might be a problem for them.

Madrid Derby in the Round of 16, it happened! In the draw for the round of 16 of the UEFA Champions League, Madrid will face Atletico. The first leg will be played at the Santiago Bernabeu, with the decisive game at the Estadio Metropolitano.
Based on the Head-to-Head Statistics of the two teams in the Champions League Knockout Round, the two teams have met 9 times. Real Madrid Wins: 5, Atlético Madrid Wins: 2 and Draws: 2
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 21, 2025, 07:38:05 PM


Madrid Derby in the Round of 16, it happened! In the draw for the round of 16 of the UEFA Champions League, Madrid will face Atletico. The first leg will be played at the Santiago Bernabeu, with the decisive game at the Estadio Metropolitano.
Based on the Head-to-Head Statistics of the two teams in the Champions League Knockout Round, the two teams have met 9 times. Real Madrid Wins: 5, Atlético Madrid Wins: 2 and Draws: 2
Wow, these Madrid games are very tough. The truth is that Mbappé was asked if he preferred to face Atlético or Leverkusen and he said that Atlético was better than having to travel, so these kinds of things are what make the Madrid boys always think about resting a little more despite being in a difficult moment of the tournament.

This derby is something great, I like it because it is a good opportunity to show that Madrid can beat them, well it has always been like that.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 21, 2025, 08:01:00 PM
A Madrid Derby coming up in the champions League is quite soon and I didn't expect it at this stage of the competition but looking at the draws for the round of sixteen I think it is fair for all teams but for the Madrid Derby it's going to be a cracker because both teams are in top form and is currently in contention for the laliga title. Madrid will come into this game as favorite because they look sharp and dangerous in front and their defense too is beginning to recover ATM has not been impressive in their last couple of games and going to the attack ATM looks not sharp as they has been rusty I see Madrid qualifying over ATM and moving into the last eight this is the stage where the real competition has started in the champions League
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on February 21, 2025, 10:33:11 PM
A Madrid Derby coming up in the champions League is quite soon and I didn't expect it at this stage of the competition but looking at the draws for the round of sixteen I think it is fair for all teams but for the Madrid Derby it's going to be a cracker because both teams are in top form and is currently in contention for the laliga title.
The two teams are very familiar playing against themselves, and I think it's going to be a very interesting contest because they're both familiar with the tactics and strategy of each other, also based on playing in the same league.

I am happy with the fixtures we got, PSV should be a team we can beat.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on February 21, 2025, 11:07:12 PM
~ After dispatching Pep's team, there's a chance they could be facing another tough opponent in Atletico Madrid. The football Gods probably hates them if the draw turns out that way ;D
And so it happened ;D

Arsenal and Barca appears to be the winners of the draw but I also think Villa got a bit lucky not to be facing one of Europe's power house in the round of 16.

With the Finals to be held in Munich, I was hoping the German teams to be separated and possibly meet later in the SF or Finals but Bayern and Leverkusen already eliminating each other in R16.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on February 21, 2025, 11:24:31 PM
To be honest, Barcelona is very lucky with the draws they got in the Champions League. Even out of all the clubs, they will face Benfica in the round of 16, compared to some other clubs, Barcelona is one of the very lucky ones. They should be able to qualify quite easily. So is Aston Villa. But once again, this is football and sometimes, something surprising happens. So, let's enjoy all the matches and process.

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/02/21/qvvrq.png)
taken from https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/draws/
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on February 21, 2025, 11:27:50 PM
To be honest, Barcelona is very lucky with the draws they got in the Champions League. Even out of all the clubs, they will face Benfica in the round of 16, compared to some other clubs, Barcelona is one of the very lucky ones. They should be able to qualify quite easily. So is Aston Villa. But once again, this is football and sometimes, something surprising happens. So, let's enjoy all the matches and process.

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/02/21/qvvrq.png)
taken from https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/draws/
Even if Barcelona are lucky against Benfica then we don't know what will happen, there could be unexpected surprises I suppose, so it will still be a tense encounter.
PSG vs Liverpool is also interesting but I have a feeling PSG will not be able to resist Liverpool.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 22, 2025, 01:46:09 PM
To be honest, Barcelona is very lucky with the draws they got in the Champions League. Even out of all the clubs, they will face Benfica in the round of 16, compared to some other clubs, Barcelona is one of the very lucky ones. They should be able to qualify quite easily. So is Aston Villa. But once again, this is football and sometimes, something surprising happens. So, let's enjoy all the matches and process.

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/02/21/qvvrq.png)
taken from https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/draws/
Well, Barcelona can indeed be said to be quite lucky. Compared to Real Madrid, which had to beat each other's teams from Laliga, namely against Atletico Madrid. but the match that I am really looking forward to is the PSG vs Liverpool match. I think this match will be a very fierce match. But I still believe Liverpool will go further and that means they will be able to beat PSG in the round of 16. PSG could be said to be the unlucky team because they had to face Liverpool in the round of 16.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on February 22, 2025, 01:47:35 PM
It's a bit of a shame to see teams from the same national leagues competing against each other that early on, maybe it would be good if the drawing rules were changed to prevent that from happening. We have two such situations: Real Madrid Vs Atletico Madrid and Bayern Munich Vs Bayer Leverkusen.

The outright odds for the UCL winner, updated for the results of the draw, are as follows:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/02/22/qY5Xz.png)

I think it's fair for Real to be at the top, but I don't think betting on them is a good move, I rather put my money on a team with a higher payout. A potential dark horse would be Atletico, if they manage to get past Real, the hardest part would be done. In the last 5 head to head games between Atletico and Real, we had one win each and 3 draws, so looks pretty even. So if we assume both teams are on a similar level, the odds of x21.0 for Atletico sound really attractive, especially compared to only x4.30 for Real.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on February 22, 2025, 02:03:43 PM
To be honest, Barcelona is very lucky with the draws they got in the Champions League. Even out of all the clubs, they will face Benfica in the round of 16, compared to some other clubs, Barcelona is one of the very lucky ones. They should be able to qualify quite easily. So is Aston Villa. But once again, this is football and sometimes, something surprising happens. So, let's enjoy all the matches and process.

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/02/21/qvvrq.png)
taken from https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/draws/
Well, Barcelona can indeed be said to be quite lucky. Compared to Real Madrid, which had to beat each other's teams from Laliga, namely against Atletico Madrid. but the match that I am really looking forward to is the PSG vs Liverpool match. I think this match will be a very fierce match. But I still believe Liverpool will go further and that means they will be able to beat PSG in the round of 16. PSG could be said to be the unlucky team because they had to face Liverpool in the round of 16.
There are many big matches, we can't forget the meeting between Bayern Munich and Leverkusen who are also from the same league.

Indeed, Barcelona is quite lucky in the last 16 because they get opponents who are not like other teams. It can't be said to be easy either, because after all the 16 teams are the best teams, but at least we can see a little difference.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 22, 2025, 09:08:46 PM
To be honest, Barcelona is very lucky with the draws they got in the Champions League. Even out of all the clubs, they will face Benfica in the round of 16, compared to some other clubs, Barcelona is one of the very lucky ones. They should be able to qualify quite easily. So is Aston Villa. But once again, this is football and sometimes, something surprising happens. So, let's enjoy all the matches and process.


Yep. Barca has the best draw, UEFA has made it easy for Barcelona and Benfica are getting a rematch of this thriller.
Flick needs to close the game early, Barca gave them too much hope in the last game, and they had to learn how to get past that low block.
But considering how Barca has trashed Madrid multiple times already, they look like favorites, so no doubt they are getting to the next round.
I can’t wait to see the knockout stage game The competition is fierce!
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on February 23, 2025, 03:02:26 PM
I can’t wait to see the knockout stage game The competition is fierce!
I am the same, I can't wait for the competition in this knockout system, more precisely in the round of 16 and beyond. In the round of 16 alone we have some very interesting matches and there will be a derby too.

This will be a very difficult result to predict, because what will happen in the first leg and in the second leg will really determine their journey. I am looking forward to a surprise.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 24, 2025, 01:00:16 PM
Well, Barcelona can indeed be said to be quite lucky. Compared to Real Madrid, which had to beat each other's teams from Laliga, namely against Atletico Madrid. but the match that I am really looking forward to is the PSG vs Liverpool match. I think this match will be a very fierce match. But I still believe Liverpool will go further and that means they will be able to beat PSG in the round of 16. PSG could be said to be the unlucky team because they had to face Liverpool in the round of 16.
There are many big matches, we can't forget the meeting between Bayern Munich and Leverkusen who are also from the same league.

Indeed, Barcelona is quite lucky in the last 16 because they get opponents who are not like other teams. It can't be said to be easy either, because after all the 16 teams are the best teams, but at least we can see a little difference.
Well, in the end, there won't be any easy matches in the round of 16. because all the teams that have made it to this stage have their own strengths that have enabled them to survive until now. But hopefully Barcelona can win. Because I really want to see this team go further than last season. Benfica is also a strong team. But I hope Barcelona can overcome it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on February 24, 2025, 05:49:37 PM
I can’t wait to see the knockout stage game The competition is fierce!
I am the same, I can't wait for the competition in this knockout system, more precisely in the round of 16 and beyond. In the round of 16 alone we have some very interesting matches and there will be a derby too.

This will be a very difficult result to predict, because what will happen in the first leg and in the second leg will really determine their journey. I am looking forward to a surprise.
This is the time for clubs to make use of playing at home as an advantage for them to win their opponents. Unlike, the group stage that you don't play with the same club home and away. For this reason, the strongest clubs will always survive to the next round because they will target drawing away from home and winning at home. We have just entered into the most interesting part of the competition.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 24, 2025, 06:13:15 PM
I can’t wait to see the knockout stage game The competition is fierce!
I am the same, I can't wait for the competition in this knockout system, more precisely in the round of 16 and beyond. In the round of 16 alone we have some very interesting matches and there will be a derby too.

This will be a very difficult result to predict, because what will happen in the first leg and in the second leg will really determine their journey. I am looking forward to a surprise.
This is the time for clubs to make use of playing at home as an advantage for them to win their opponents. Unlike, the group stage that you don't play with the same club home and away. For this reason, the strongest clubs will always survive to the next round because they will target drawing away from home and winning at home. We have just entered into the most interesting part of the competition.
Football has evolved passed what you are saying because any club that is not good is not good and banking on the home matches to win and qualify is something that has passed so any team that hopes to go far in the champions League at this stage of the competition should be ready to win both at home and away because banking on winning only home matches will fail when you meet a team that is tactically sound which will make any team not to be able to keep up with the pace of that team
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 24, 2025, 07:22:00 PM
I can’t wait to see the knockout stage game The competition is fierce!
I am the same, I can't wait for the competition in this knockout system, more precisely in the round of 16 and beyond. In the round of 16 alone we have some very interesting matches and there will be a derby too.

This will be a very difficult result to predict, because what will happen in the first leg and in the second leg will really determine their journey. I am looking forward to a surprise.

This year UCL is giving us worthy matches in the Round of 16.
Real Madrid or Atlético will be knocked out in the Round of 16, Bayern or Leverkusen will be knocked out in the Round of 16, and Liverpool or PSG will be knocked out in the Round of 16.
The new UCL format could make for a total surprise champion. I‘m starting to love it :)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on February 24, 2025, 10:13:29 PM

The new UCL format could make for a total surprise champion. I‘m starting to love it :)
By next season, more teams will be used to it and prepare better. Some teams were caught out of the competition early because they were slow to understand the new format.

Trying to pick the team that will win it, I say Liverpool has a pretty good chance.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 25, 2025, 05:19:06 PM
Football has evolved passed what you are saying because any club that is not good is not good and banking on the home matches to win and qualify is something that has passed so any team that hopes to go far in the champions League at this stage of the competition should be ready to win both at home and away because banking on winning only home matches will fail when you meet a team that is tactically sound which will make any team not to be able to keep up with the pace of that team

You're right, things are very different now, every team in the UCL is extremely strong, this makes me remember Pep Guardiola when he said that after they lost against Madrid , he Expected to face a Madrid in Liga mode, never even Madrid in UCL mode , which are really very Fierce, and the truth is that it was like that, despite the fact that Madrid does not like to face City , I think the way they played was great, it is also worth remembering that neither DeBruyne nor Haaland played for City.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 25, 2025, 05:34:52 PM

The new UCL format could make for a total surprise champion. I‘m starting to love it :)
By next season, more teams will be used to it and prepare better. Some teams were caught out of the competition early because they were slow to understand the new format.

Trying to pick the team that will win it, I say Liverpool has a pretty good chance.

Yep. The new format has completely transformed the whole competition. So many big games, and next season all teams will start to calculate carefully and prepare the squad depth better.
And yeah, Liverpool is the favorite to win the UCL this season. They are the top and won all their matches so far.
But when the question in my head has come up again, would I like Liverpool to win the Premier League or UCL, I think the answer is obvious… Both. :)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 25, 2025, 06:05:39 PM

The new UCL format could make for a total surprise champion. I‘m starting to love it :)
By next season, more teams will be used to it and prepare better. Some teams were caught out of the competition early because they were slow to understand the new format.

Trying to pick the team that will win it, I say Liverpool has a pretty good chance.

Yep. The new format has completely transformed the whole competition. So many big games, and next season all teams will start to calculate carefully and prepare the squad depth better.
And yeah, Liverpool is the favorite to win the UCL this season. They are the top and won all their matches so far.
But when the question in my head has come up again, would I like Liverpool to win the Premier League or UCL, I think the answer is obvious… Both. :)
Liverpool may be in good form in the premier League this season and has done well in the group stages of the competition but that doesn't make them to be favorite in the champions League because when it comes to the champions League it's a different game altogether there are other good teams that are still there in the champions League that is still a threat to Liverpool and with the stage that the champions League is currently it's too early to be talking about who's the favorite to win let see which teams qualifies to the last four that when we can be talking about which team is the favourite that is going to win the champions League this season
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 26, 2025, 02:17:49 PM
Liverpool may be in good form in the premier League this season and has done well in the group stages of the competition but that doesn't make them to be favorite in the champions League because when it comes to the champions League it's a different game altogether there are other good teams that are still there in the champions League that is still a threat to Liverpool and with the stage that the champions League is currently it's too early to be talking about who's the favorite to win let see which teams qualifies to the last four that when we can be talking about which team is the favourite that is going to win the champions League this season

I know what you mean, and I agree that there are other good teams out there that can pose a threat to Liverpool.
However, if we look at their performances throughout the season, we cannot deny that Liverpool are a very consistent team when they compete in major competitions.
And I think this team is maturing. Liverpool has enough requirements to win the title this season both in the league and in the UCL. IMO
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on February 27, 2025, 01:17:53 PM
Liverpool may be in good form in the premier League this season and has done well in the group stages of the competition but that doesn't make them to be favorite in the champions League because when it comes to the champions League it's a different game altogether there are other good teams that are still there in the champions League that is still a threat to Liverpool and with the stage that the champions League is currently it's too early to be talking about who's the favorite to win let see which teams qualifies to the last four that when we can be talking about which team is the favourite that is going to win the champions League this season

I know what you mean, and I agree that there are other good teams out there that can pose a threat to Liverpool.
However, if we look at their performances throughout the season, we cannot deny that Liverpool are a very consistent team when they compete in major competitions.
And I think this team is maturing. Liverpool has enough requirements to win the title this season both in the league and in the UCL. IMO
Agree that Liverpool is the most consistent team in the domestic league and in the Champions League, so that is a greater assessment for them and it is natural that they are favored to win the title this season.

Although we know that this is a champions league which cannot be predicted with certainty. However, in the last few seasons, the most consistent team has finally become the champion.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on February 27, 2025, 03:33:03 PM
The round of 16 will start next week - still curious about these matches some teams meet equal teams if they have qualified for this round there are no low clubs but tough teams even if they are not favorites.

I just want to see how interesting this PSG vs Liverpool match will be.
Have you seen the gambling market?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on February 27, 2025, 03:40:53 PM
I just want to see how interesting this PSG vs Liverpool match will be.
Have you seen the gambling market?
It's going to be an interesting game, but it's going to be difficult to imagine Liverpool losing to PSG considering how well Liverpool play at the moment and how motivated they are having Mohammed Salah, who is also in goal-scoring form. I know PSG have Dembele and kvara which will count, but it will be a matter of PSG's defense being able to hold Liverpool back from scoring when they launch their high-pressure attacks.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on February 27, 2025, 06:31:59 PM
I just want to see how interesting this PSG vs Liverpool match will be.
Have you seen the gambling market?
It's going to be an interesting game, but it's going to be difficult to imagine Liverpool losing to PSG considering how well Liverpool play at the moment and how motivated they are having Mohammed Salah, who is also in goal-scoring form. I know PSG have Dembele and kvara which will count, but it will be a matter of PSG's defense being able to hold Liverpool back from scoring when they launch their high-pressure attacks.

Yep. PSG has squad depth in attack but they can't battle out with Liverpool in midfield
An unmissable between PSG and Liverpool but also the Bayern and  Leverkusen match is important. A big match!
What annoys me is that PSG vs Liverpool and Leverkusen Vs Bayern are played on the same day and time.
I don't understand why UEFA thinks that this is a good idea. lol
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on February 27, 2025, 06:48:21 PM
I just want to see how interesting this PSG vs Liverpool match will be.
Have you seen the gambling market?
It's going to be an interesting game, but it's going to be difficult to imagine Liverpool losing to PSG considering how well Liverpool play at the moment and how motivated they are having Mohammed Salah, who is also in goal-scoring form. I know PSG have Dembele and kvara which will count, but it will be a matter of PSG's defense being able to hold Liverpool back from scoring when they launch their high-pressure attacks.
Liverpool defense will be able to stop PSG from passing through because their defense is also strong. Infact, strong defense, good midfield and sharp attackers is what Liverpool got. However, PSG should try to put in their best in the match because it might be their last round to go.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on February 27, 2025, 06:57:17 PM
Liverpool defense will be able to stop PSG from passing through because their defense is also strong. Infact, strong defense, good midfield and sharp attackers is what Liverpool got. However, PSG should try to put in their best in the match because it might be their last round to go.
Although PSG is also a strong team. But PSG's performance this season in the UCL is quite doubtful. So yes, I also think that Liverpool's defense will be difficult to penetrate in this match. And Liverpool might be the one who penetrates PSG's defense first and scores a goal. I will probably favor Liverpool in this match. Because yes, Liverpool is still the best team at the moment in my opinion.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 27, 2025, 06:58:15 PM
I just want to see how interesting this PSG vs Liverpool match will be.
Have you seen the gambling market?
It's going to be an interesting game, but it's going to be difficult to imagine Liverpool losing to PSG considering how well Liverpool play at the moment and how motivated they are having Mohammed Salah, who is also in goal-scoring form. I know PSG have Dembele and kvara which will count, but it will be a matter of PSG's defense being able to hold Liverpool back from scoring when they launch their high-pressure attacks.
Liverpool defense will be able to stop PSG from passing through because their defense is also strong. Infact, strong defense, good midfield and sharp attackers is what Liverpool got. However, PSG should try to put in their best in the match because it might be their last round to go.
Liverpool is going into this game with a good performance and favorite but PSG should not be written off before the game because there is bound to be surprises I think both Liverpool and PSG is in the same level in their domestic leagues so PSG should be given some credits, this game is open for both teams to win it will be a matter of who takes their chances in front of goals and being creative both teams are good going forward as their attacks looks good so this game is a 50 /50 game
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on February 27, 2025, 10:12:47 PM
Although PSG is also a strong team. But PSG's performance this season in the UCL is quite doubtful. So yes, I also think that Liverpool's defense will be difficult to penetrate in this match. And Liverpool might be the one who penetrates PSG's defense first and scores a goal. I will probably favor Liverpool in this match. Because yes, Liverpool is still the best team at the moment in my opinion.
No doubt that PSG is a strong team, they are the best team Ligue 1. So far, they are unbeaten, 0 lose in 23 matches in Ligue 1. In UCL, PSG performance was quite doubtful in league phase. But when it is in plays-off round, PSG performance looked very convincing. They defeated Brest with big scores. I think it is a sign for Liverpool that they can't underestimate PSG. Although Liverpool defense is quite strong, it is not impossible that PSG can't destroy it. So, even if Liverpool performed well in UCL so far, there is no guarantee that Liverpool will beat PSG easily.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on February 27, 2025, 11:11:07 PM
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Have you seen the gambling market?
Other than Villa-Brugge, the PSG-LFC match is quite even in odds. I was expecting Liverpool to be the heavy favorite in this but I guess being the away team for leg 1 also played a huge factor for bettors. For leg 2, a lot of it depends on the results of leg 1.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on February 27, 2025, 11:24:59 PM
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Have you seen the gambling market?
Other than Villa-Brugge, the PSG-LFC match is quite even in odds. I was expecting Liverpool to be the heavy favorite in this but I guess being the away team for leg 1 also played a huge factor for bettors. For leg 2, a lot of it depends on the results of leg 1.
From the eyes of the layman or ordinary sports speculators, we have seen that Liverpool is more sound to dismantle PSG in their fourthcoming meeting. But in the spirit of football and that of the Champions League where one has happened, it is not right to write off any team. Besides, PSG is also in an excellent form, anything can happen. This could also be the year of PSG since they no longer carry heavy stars.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on February 28, 2025, 08:28:16 AM
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Have you seen the gambling market?
Other than Villa-Brugge, the PSG-LFC match is quite even in odds. I was expecting Liverpool to be the heavy favorite in this but I guess being the away team for leg 1 also played a huge factor for bettors. For leg 2, a lot of it depends on the results of leg 1.
From the eyes of the layman or ordinary sports speculators, we have seen that Liverpool is more sound to dismantle PSG in their fourthcoming meeting. But in the spirit of football and that of the Champions League where one has happened, it is not right to write off any team. Besides, PSG is also in an excellent form, anything can happen. This could also be the year of PSG since they no longer carry heavy stars.
Your right football is one thing that is dynamic so writing off any team before a game is one thing that wrong when it comes to football, football has shown people that any team no matter how inform a team is can be defeated so going into this game PSG stands a good chance of qualifying for the next round good of a thing it's even a two leg fixtures so don't write off PSG yet until the game starts
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 02, 2025, 12:38:20 PM
Your right football is one thing that is dynamic so writing off any team before a game is one thing that wrong when it comes to football, football has shown people that any team no matter how inform a team is can be defeated so going into this game PSG stands a good chance of qualifying for the next round good of a thing it's even a two leg fixtures so don't write off PSG yet until the game starts
Before the match is over, we cannot say anything definite about the result of the match, and even if it is played 2 matches, then when the first leg is already seen the result, we also cannot say for sure who can qualify or not.

Football is full of surprises and we do not know when the surprise will happen and to which team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 04, 2025, 06:32:34 AM
Finally, the last 16 of the Champions League will begin. And there are at least 4 matches that will be held today. That is

- Club Brugge vs Aston Villa
- Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid
- PSV vs Arsenal
- Dortmund vs LOSC

Of these four matches, actually none of them are easy at all for us to predict the results. Because these 4 matches seem to bring together teams with almost the same strength. Except maybe the PSV vs Arsenal match where Arsenal should have been favored even though they were guests in the match. What do you think?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 04, 2025, 05:26:54 PM
Finally, the last 16 of the Champions League will begin. And there are at least 4 matches that will be held today. That is

- Club Brugge vs Aston Villa
- Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid
- PSV vs Arsenal
- Dortmund vs LOSC


Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid is probably the game that attracts the most attention, but I prefer to watch Club Brugge vs Aston Villa.
Club Brugge's appearance in the last 16 after winning the play-off match against Atalanta was impressive and youngster Chemsdine Talbi is now more mature and ready to shine on the European stage.
On the other hand, Marco Asensio and Marcus Rashford are set to make their Champions League debuts for Villa.
Hopefully, Unai can get a good lead to take back to Villa Park next week but it will be a tough game. Good luck...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on March 04, 2025, 07:22:51 PM
Finally, the last 16 of the Champions League will begin. And there are at least 4 matches that will be held today. That is

- Club Brugge vs Aston Villa
- Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid
- PSV vs Arsenal
- Dortmund vs LOSC


Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid is probably the game that attracts the most attention, but I prefer to watch Club Brugge vs Aston Villa.
Club Brugge's appearance in the last 16 after winning the play-off match against Atalanta was impressive and youngster Chemsdine Talbi is now more mature and ready to shine on the European stage.
On the other hand, Marco Asensio and Marcus Rashford are set to make their Champions League debuts for Villa.
Hopefully, Unai can get a good lead to take back to Villa Park next week but it will be a tough game. Good luck...
Athletico madrid vs Real Madrid is the main match to watch out for tonight because it's going to be a tough match for the both teams because both teams are in form and they also know what is at stake, I think this game will be decided the team with the best attack because both teams play an attacking kind of game.
It's already 1:1 in the first match between club brugge and Aston Villa this is is another game that will produce at lot of goals because the two teams play attacking football , club brugge has really surprised everyone this season with their performance as the elimination Atlanta to reach this stage of the competition
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on March 04, 2025, 07:43:48 PM
On the other hand, Marco Asensio and Marcus Rashford are set to make their Champions League debuts for Villa.
Hopefully, Unai can get a good lead to take back to Villa Park next week but it will be a tough game. Good luck...

Aston Villa got an early break, going ahead after just 3 minutes into the game, but they weren’t able to keep their lead and were pegged back, since then it’s been pretty much an even affair, it’s still either team’s game to win, I’d probably still fancy Aston Villa to win the game in the 2nd half, they just might need to step up their game if they’d want to take an advantage back to England.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 04, 2025, 09:51:02 PM
It's expected for Arsenal to win their match against PSV but what I did not see coming is the three goals in just 45 minutes. Although PSV pulled one back through penalty, it is still tough when your team is already down two goals this early.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on March 04, 2025, 10:03:40 PM
It's expected for Arsenal to win their match against PSV but what I did not see coming is the three goals in just 45 minutes. Although PSV pulled one back through penalty, it is still tough when your team is already down two goals this early.
I thought Arsenal would struggle to score because they lacked key players, it was different they won 1-3 in the first half so it's still possible Arsenal can secure this win in leg 1.

Other matches
Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid 1-1 in the second half anything can happen.
Dortmund vs LOSC 1-0 Dortmund should win at home.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 04, 2025, 10:45:31 PM
It's expected for Arsenal to win their match against PSV but what I did not see coming is the three goals in just 45 minutes. Although PSV pulled one back through penalty, it is still tough when your team is already down two goals this early.
Another three additional goals were scored before the end of the second half. However, Arsenal has shown complete dominance in their match against PSV. I was expecting Arsenal to win in tonight's match, but not with this kind of defeat of 6 goals to 1. The defeat is disgraceful because it is at PSV home
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: debra on March 04, 2025, 11:09:24 PM
It's expected for Arsenal to win their match against PSV but what I did not see coming is the three goals in just 45 minutes. Although PSV pulled one back through penalty, it is still tough when your team is already down two goals this early.
PSV looks too easy for Arsenal.  :D
Arsenal destroyed them with 7 goals. Even Arsenal played with no striker, they can score many goals. I just can't imagine if Arsenal play with their full team. Arsenal may score more than 10 goals. However, I'm surprised that PSV played with a very bad approach.

On another match, Real Madrid won the match against Atletico Madrid. It proves that Real Madrid played differently when they are in UCL match. Yesterday, they played badly against a weaker team in La Liga, but today they beat Atletico Madrid.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on March 04, 2025, 11:41:03 PM
It's expected for Arsenal to win their match against PSV but what I did not see coming is the three goals in just 45 minutes. Although PSV pulled one back through penalty, it is still tough when your team is already down two goals this early.

Yes, Arsenal looks very easy to beat PSV in this first leg. With a temporary garage of 1 - 7, in my opinion, there is no hope for PSV to win and surpass Arsenal's aggregate score in the second leg later. So, it is certain that Arsenal will advance to the next round if there are no obstacles.

Now on the other hand, Real Madrid vs Atletico Madrid, this Madrid derby took place quite sharply. Only, the final score was 2 - 1. So in the second leg later it is still unclear who will advance to the next round
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 04, 2025, 11:59:38 PM
It's expected for Arsenal to win their match against PSV but what I did not see coming is the three goals in just 45 minutes. Although PSV pulled one back through penalty, it is still tough when your team is already down two goals this early.
PSV looks too easy for Arsenal.  :D
Arsenal destroyed them with 7 goals. Even Arsenal played with no striker, they can score many goals. I just can't imagine if Arsenal play with their full team. Arsenal may score more than 10 goals. However, I'm surprised that PSV played with a very bad approach.

On another match, Real Madrid won the match against Atletico Madrid. It proves that Real Madrid played differently when they are in UCL match. Yesterday, they played badly against a weaker team in La Liga, but today they beat Atletico Madrid.
I guess playing without the key members also played to Arsenal's advantage as the other team has to predict Arteta's strategy too. With his effective adjustments, he probably earned some respect after this game.

For the Madrid derby (CL version), my prior prediction was a draw but both teams scoring. I'm even but still kind of disappointed I lost the bet on draw.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on March 05, 2025, 12:59:13 PM
A horrible night for PSV yesterday. Anything is possible but with a loss that big, it's fair to say their adventure in the Champions League has already come to an end. I don't think even the most die-hard PSV fans believe they can come back from a 7-1 loss. 2nd leg game will be just a formality for Arsenal and they'll probably give some bench players a chance.

As for the Madrid derby, it was pretty much as expected, Real used their home advantage and scored a minimal win. I expected a little bit more from Atletico, but they're still in the play.

My predictions for tonight:
Bayern Munich v Bayer 04 Leverkusen - x
Benfica v Barcelona - 2
Feyenoord   v Inter Milan - x
Paris St Germain v Liverpool - 2
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on March 05, 2025, 03:06:50 PM
A horrible night for PSV yesterday. Anything is possible but with a loss that big, it's fair to say their adventure in the Champions League has already come to an end. I don't think even the most die-hard PSV fans believe they can come back from a 7-1 loss. 2nd leg game will be just a formality for Arsenal and they'll probably give some bench players a chance.

As for the Madrid derby, it was pretty much as expected, Real used their home advantage and scored a minimal win. I expected a little bit more from Atletico, but they're still in the play.

My predictions for tonight:
Bayern Munich v Bayer 04 Leverkusen - x
Benfica v Barcelona - 2
Feyenoord   v Inter Milan - x
Paris St Germain v Liverpool - 2

I think you are wrong about Inter vs Feyenoord
Let's say that Inter is in a moment of absolute form and i think it can be transver to win against the Feyenoord that seems to me to be a team absolutely within its reach
Barcelona and Liverpool also have a relatively simple game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 05, 2025, 04:00:03 PM
On the other hand, Marco Asensio and Marcus Rashford are set to make their Champions League debuts for Villa.
Hopefully, Unai can get a good lead to take back to Villa Park next week but it will be a tough game. Good luck...

Aston Villa got an early break, going ahead after just 3 minutes into the game, but they weren’t able to keep their lead and were pegged back, since then it’s been pretty much an even affair, it’s still either team’s game to win, I’d probably still fancy Aston Villa to win the game in the 2nd half, they just might need to step up their game if they’d want to take an advantage back to England.

Yeah, I'd also say the game was pretty even. I'm not sure how Villa looked toothless and they scored three goals but I'll take it :)
Well, one was a brilliant goal by Bailey and the other was an og, then the penalty, so in fairness Villa scored one!
However, picking up an away win in the UCL knockout phase is an achievement. Taking a two-goal advantage back to Villa Park is good for them. Congrats to Unai...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 05, 2025, 06:06:10 PM
I think you are wrong about Inter vs Feyenoord
Let's say that Inter is in a moment of absolute form and i think it can be transver to win against the Feyenoord that seems to me to be a team absolutely within its reach
Barcelona and Liverpool also have a relatively simple game.
It seems that there are those who think that Feyenoord is one of the teams that could be a threat to Inter Milan. And I understand this because in the previous stage, Feyenoord had beaten Bayern Munich with a big score and had also held off Man City. I even had high hopes for Feyenoord at that time. But when I saw that Feyenoord was defeated by Lille with a big score and then Feyenoord was actually quite overwhelmed in the match against AC Milan, then from that moment I thought that Feyenoord might be strong but it seemed like they were not a match for the Italian team. Because if they are overwhelmed by AC Milan then they should be even more overwhelmed by Inter Milan. So I will favorite Inter Milan in today's match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on March 05, 2025, 08:19:39 PM
I think you are wrong about Inter vs Feyenoord
Let's say that Inter is in a moment of absolute form and i think it can be transver to win against the Feyenoord that seems to me to be a team absolutely within its reach
Barcelona and Liverpool also have a relatively simple game.
It seems that there are those who think that Feyenoord is one of the teams that could be a threat to Inter Milan. And I understand this because in the previous stage, Feyenoord had beaten Bayern Munich with a big score and had also held off Man City. I even had high hopes for Feyenoord at that time. But when I saw that Feyenoord was defeated by Lille with a big score and then Feyenoord was actually quite overwhelmed in the match against AC Milan, then from that moment I thought that Feyenoord might be strong but it seemed like they were not a match for the Italian team. Because if they are overwhelmed by AC Milan then they should be even more overwhelmed by Inter Milan. So I will favorite Inter Milan in today's match.
It seems that inter Milan is taking revenge Over feyernoord knowing that two teams from the Italian seria A Juventus and Milan where all eliminated by teams from the Ere divisie it seems that feyernoord is not a match to inter because the game is under the control of inter , well let see how the game will end wether feyernoord can get one goal and keep their hopes alive as they will like to cause an upset in the second leg of this game but it will be very very hard for feyernoord to overturn this score line in the second leg
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: joniboini on March 05, 2025, 08:24:41 PM
Looks like Jota start for Liverpool against PSG. Diaz is on the left while Szoboszlai is behind him. Looks like they won't play the way they play against City today. Nunez and Chiesa are on the bench. I don't think they'll get minutes in this match unless Liverpool somehow manages to secure a good margin in the first 60 minutes or so. Endo will probably play again in the last 20 minutes. I'm a fan of him and wanted to see him start a match for Liverpool, but I don't think it will happen considering his competition.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on March 05, 2025, 08:38:21 PM
Looks like Jota start for Liverpool against PSG. Diaz is on the left while Szoboszlai is behind him. Looks like they won't play the way they play against City today. Nunez and Chiesa are on the bench. I don't think they'll get minutes in this match unless Liverpool somehow manages to secure a good margin in the first 60 minutes or so. Endo will probably play again in the last 20 minutes. I'm a fan of him and wanted to see him start a match for Liverpool, but I don't think it will happen considering his competition.
Liverpool has to use all the arsenal at their disposal against PSG because this game is an imported game for Liverpool finishing in the last rounds of the champions League should be the target of Liverpool because the odds  are in favour with the current form of Liverpool so far this season, but PSG too is not a team that Liverpool can just win easily like that because PSG too has really improved in their performance topping the French ligue 1 and where impressive in the group stages of the competition
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on March 05, 2025, 09:58:51 PM
Looks like Jota start for Liverpool against PSG. Diaz is on the left while Szoboszlai is behind him. Looks like they won't play the way they play against City today. Nunez and Chiesa are on the bench. I don't think they'll get minutes in this match unless Liverpool somehow manages to secure a good margin in the first 60 minutes or so. Endo will probably play again in the last 20 minutes. I'm a fan of him and wanted to see him start a match for Liverpool, but I don't think it will happen considering his competition.
Liverpool has to use all the arsenal at their disposal against PSG because this game is an imported game for Liverpool finishing in the last rounds of the champions League should be the target of Liverpool because the odds  are in favour with the current form of Liverpool so far this season, but PSG too is not a team that Liverpool can just win easily like that because PSG too has really improved in their performance topping the French ligue 1 and where impressive in the group stages of the competition

I guess the bookmakers were right for considering PSG as the favorites for this 1st leg after all, although the fixture remains a goalless one after 45 minutes of action but it's been all PSG so far in this game, and Liverpool could have easily been a goal or 2 behind at the break.

Liverpool have been completely outplayed in this game and if things remain the same in the second half, Liverpool would be lucky to secure a draw in this match, that being said, we all know Liverpool have been spectacular this season and are pretty much capable of flipping the script to get a desirable result.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Amug123 on March 05, 2025, 10:05:58 PM
I think you are wrong about Inter vs Feyenoord
Let's say that Inter is in a moment of absolute form and i think it can be transver to win against the Feyenoord that seems to me to be a team absolutely within its reach
Barcelona and Liverpool also have a relatively simple game.
It seems that there are those who think that Feyenoord is one of the teams that could be a threat to Inter Milan. And I understand this because in the previous stage, Feyenoord had beaten Bayern Munich with a big score and had also held off Man City. I even had high hopes for Feyenoord at that time. But when I saw that Feyenoord was defeated by Lille with a big score and then Feyenoord was actually quite overwhelmed in the match against AC Milan, then from that moment I thought that Feyenoord might be strong but it seemed like they were not a match for the Italian team. Because if they are overwhelmed by AC Milan then they should be even more overwhelmed by Inter Milan. So I will favorite Inter Milan in today's match.
It seems that inter Milan is taking revenge Over feyernoord knowing that two teams from the Italian seria A Juventus and Milan where all eliminated by teams from the Ere divisie it seems that feyernoord is not a match to inter because the game is under the control of inter , well let see how the game will end wether feyernoord can get one goal and keep their hopes alive as they will like to cause an upset in the second leg of this game but it will be very very hard for feyernoord to overturn this score line in the second leg
inter Milan won against feyernoord can  be attribute to Milan solid defense and also the ability to score crucial goal their experience and resilience particularly during away matches and a combination of Milan solid defense clinical finishes and feyernoord poor form  gave inter a comfortable win.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 05, 2025, 10:32:17 PM
Benfica has got to be the weakest team in the round of 16 if they cannot even score against a 10-man Barcelona. What's worse is that they are facing a defeat AT HOME as Raphinha opened the scoring in 60+ minutes. What a shame if the result stays the same until the final whistle.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on March 05, 2025, 10:40:41 PM
Bayern is superior over Leverkusen in UCL, because I thought that both teams have equal strength. Bayern has scored three goals and Leverkusen is frustrated on the field. Leverkusen got a red card and they are playing with one man down. It 3-0.

Barcelona has finally scored despite playing with one man down since the first half. Raphina broke the deadlock on the 61st minutes of the game.

Liverpool and PSG are still finding it difficult to find the back of the net and their match is still goalless.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on March 05, 2025, 10:50:22 PM
With 10 minutes to go, Barcelona still leads 1-0 against Benfica despite Pau Cubarsi being sent off in the 22nd minute.
Scoring the only goal (so far) and dominating in possession despite being down to ten men shows a difference in levels between those two teams.

I'm surprised to see no goals in PSG Vs Liverpool. I expected Liverpool to win, but if the game ends with a 0-0 draw, that's still favourable results for the Reds, as away goals no longer counts as a tie-breaker. So it will all be decided at Anfield next week.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 05, 2025, 10:57:49 PM
~ Liverpool and PSG are still finding it difficult to find the back of the net and their match is still goalless.
Yeah, it's actually quite surprising that Liverpool are being held back like that for most of the match. I just don't mean the no goal but also the one or two attempts at goal. They now scored at the final minutes though. What a sucker punch to PSG after creating so many chances and now facing a defeat.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on March 05, 2025, 11:18:47 PM
I'm surprised to see no goals in PSG Vs Liverpool. I expected Liverpool to win, but if the game ends with a 0-0 draw, that's still favourable results for the Reds, as away goals no longer counts as a tie-breaker. So it will all be decided at Anfield next week.
Liverpool finally could score a goal. But it was surprising that PSG failed to score a goal.  :-\
In this match, PSG very dominated the match, they made too many shots. PSG made 27 total shots, 10 shots on target. But, it is very surprising that there is no goal that PSG players made. Although they still have a chance in the next Leg, they wasted too many chances in their home today.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on March 05, 2025, 11:32:38 PM
Liverpool and PSG are still finding it difficult to find the back of the net and their match is still goalless.

The final result of PSG vs Liverpool is 0 - 1


It's very unfortunate. PSG has so many chances. I don't understand how effective and accurate PSG's front line is. This is very interesting.

Just imagine, PSG has 27 shots and also 10 shots on target. 10 shots. Their fire crackled and even in the end, they were hit by an epic comeback by Liverpool who actually scored a goal and won. Seriously, PSG is really disappointing this time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on March 06, 2025, 07:14:03 AM
Liverpool finally could score a goal. But it was surprising that PSG failed to score a goal.  :-\
In this match, PSG very dominated the match, they made too many shots. PSG made 27 total shots, 10 shots on target. But, it is very surprising that there is no goal that PSG players made. Although they still have a chance in the next Leg, they wasted too many chances in their home today.
It's going to be an even tougher game for PSG when they go to Anfield. Liverpool will play them like they do not have the advantage of a goal already because that is what they do except PSG can somehow replicate this same form of pressure that they had all through the first leg in the second leg even though they could not use their opportunities.

The second leg of games will be tougher.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 06, 2025, 08:28:17 AM
Yeah, it's actually quite surprising that Liverpool are being held back like that for most of the match. I just don't mean the no goal but also the one or two attempts at goal. They now scored at the final minutes though. What a sucker punch to PSG after creating so many chances and now facing a defeat.
In the end Liverpool still won the match even though there were many things that were difficult to understand in the match. Like how a strong team like Liverpool can continue to be pressured by PSG for almost the entire match. All of that was truly an unexpected surprise from the match. because initially I thought the match would be fierce where both teams would take turns making intense attacks on each other.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on March 06, 2025, 05:26:37 PM
Bayern is superior over Leverkusen in UCL, because I thought that both teams have equal strength. Bayern has scored three goals and Leverkusen is frustrated on the field. Leverkusen got a red card and they are playing with one man down. It 3-0.

That result should literally be enough to see Bayern Munich through to the next stage, because I don’t see Bayer Leverkusen overcoming a 3-goal deficit against Bayern Munich considering how the game went. The victory came a cost for Bayern Munich as Manuel Neuer was injured during the game and is now said to likely be facing an extended time on the sideline.

After the first leg of fixtures, It’s probably safe to say that only Arsenal and Bayern Munich have most likely secure their place in the next round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 06, 2025, 08:11:59 PM
Liverpool and PSG are still finding it difficult to find the back of the net and their match is still goalless.

The final result of PSG vs Liverpool is 0 - 1


It's very unfortunate. PSG has so many chances. I don't understand how effective and accurate PSG's front line is. This is very interesting.

Just imagine, PSG has 27 shots and also 10 shots on target. 10 shots. Their fire crackled and even in the end, they were hit by an epic comeback by Liverpool who actually scored a goal and won. Seriously, PSG is really disappointing this time.

A dominating 0 goals scored. I can only say unlucky...
It was a game that showed that no matter how well you play, it's meaningless if you don't score. PSG was the better team in this game but Liverpool took the chances. Liverpool knows how to win the Champions League.
But Please train Donnarumma real hard, he can’t be making the team lose that easy, he’s supposed to save that ball. lol
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on March 06, 2025, 08:22:41 PM
Benfica has got to be the weakest team in the round of 16 if they cannot even score against a 10-man Barcelona. What's worse is that they are facing a defeat AT HOME as Raphinha opened the scoring in 60+ minutes. What a shame if the result stays the same until the final whistle.
Although Barcelona with 10 players they can still press the attack on the opponent, and it is true that Barcelona is able to win but unfortunately Benfica wasted the opportunity.
The second leg may be even tougher as they have to travel to Barcelona.
If this is the case I see Barcelona will have a chance to qualify easily.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on March 06, 2025, 09:56:20 PM
Benfica has got to be the weakest team in the round of 16 if they cannot even score against a 10-man Barcelona. What's worse is that they are facing a defeat AT HOME as Raphinha opened the scoring in 60+ minutes. What a shame if the result stays the same until the final whistle.
Although Barcelona with 10 players they can still press the attack on the opponent, and it is true that Barcelona is able to win but unfortunately Benfica wasted the opportunity.
The second leg may be even tougher as they have to travel to Barcelona.
If this is the case I see Barcelona will have a chance to qualify easily.
What Benfica lacked in the game was a finishing touch in front of the Barcelona goal post especially in the second half Benfica was actually good in the game I will say that they where only not lucky in the game if not Benfica will have won this game convincingly yesterday but it's going to be a very tasky one fir Benfica going into the second leg in spain because the probability of Benfica beating Barcelona at home by at leat 2:0 will be very very hard
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 06, 2025, 10:22:14 PM
Benfica has got to be the weakest team in the round of 16 if they cannot even score against a 10-man Barcelona. What's worse is that they are facing a defeat AT HOME as Raphinha opened the scoring in 60+ minutes. What a shame if the result stays the same until the final whistle.
Shame it is that Benfica didn't later equalize Raphinha's goal at 61 minutes of play with their Barcelona 10-man players. I was flabbergasted that Benfica couldn't win Barcelona at home. Will it be when they come to Barcelona's home ground they will win them with 11 men? Well, Benfica wants their journey of Champions League matches to end. They don't want to advance much further
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 06, 2025, 11:19:05 PM
^ Naah, I think Benfica is as good as out of the CL after the first leg. The chances of advancing to the quarter finals is not zero of course but that would probably happen if Barcelona is reduced to nine players. Maybe Benfica could finally score by that time? ;D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on March 07, 2025, 12:52:34 PM
^ Naah, I think Benfica is as good as out of the CL after the first leg. The chances of advancing to the quarter finals is not zero of course but that would probably happen if Barcelona is reduced to nine players. Maybe Benfica could finally score by that time? ;D
It's quite unfortunate that Benfica had to lose, even though they had a great opportunity after Barcelona had to play with 10 men in the 22nd minute. However, Benfica still had to lose by a very narrow score.

It must be admitted that the Barcelona goalkeeper's performance was very good in this match, many times he was able to break the opportunities created by Benfica so that he kept his goal safe from conceding.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 07, 2025, 10:18:58 PM
^ Naah, I think Benfica is as good as out of the CL after the first leg. The chances of advancing to the quarter finals is not zero of course but that would probably happen if Barcelona is reduced to nine players. Maybe Benfica could finally score by that time? ;D
It's quite unfortunate that Benfica had to lose, even though they had a great opportunity after Barcelona had to play with 10 men in the 22nd minute. However, Benfica still had to lose by a very narrow score.

It must be admitted that the Barcelona goalkeeper's performance was very good in this match, many times he was able to break the opportunities created by Benfica so that he kept his goal safe from conceding.

I completely agree. It was an amazing performance; Szczesny was outstanding and he was named Man of the Match. He deserved it.
One of the reasons why Madrid has done so well in the UCL in the last decade and a half is because of their goalkeepers.
Casillas, Navas, and Courtois have been decisive in some of their matches. Casillas, Navas, and Courtois were decisive at some point during their run-ins. Barca might just have gotten Navas regen in Szczesny.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on March 07, 2025, 10:38:41 PM
That result should literally be enough to see Bayern Munich through to the next stage, because I don’t see Bayer Leverkusen overcoming a 3-goal deficit against Bayern Munich considering how the game went. The victory came a cost for Bayern Munich as Manuel Neuer was injured during the game and is now said to likely be facing an extended time on the sideline.

After the first leg of fixtures, It’s probably safe to say that only Arsenal and Bayern Munich have most likely secure their place in the next round.

Still can't understand why Boniface didn't play a single minute in that game but I want to believe the early second half Red card ruined everything tactically for them. Brought in more defenders trying to minimize the damage. Lol

German players hates to retire but Manuel Neuer reoccurring injuries should be enough sign for him to hang those boots..

BTW why am I only seeing you this week on this forum.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on March 07, 2025, 11:09:37 PM
It must be admitted that the Barcelona goalkeeper's performance was very good in this match, many times he was able to break the opportunities created by Benfica so that he kept his goal safe from conceding.
The best goalkeeper for me in the Champions League games this week was Alisson, because regardless of the pressure he faced, he was still very able to make many important saves and keep PSG from getting any goal. I did not watch the Barcelona game, but if you are to rate the performance of the two goalkeepers as someone who saw the two, who would you say did better?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on March 07, 2025, 11:59:19 PM
The best goalkeeper for me in the Champions League games this week was Alisson, because regardless of the pressure he faced, he was still very able to make many important saves and keep PSG from getting any goal. I did not watch the Barcelona game, but if you are to rate the performance of the two goalkeepers as someone who saw the two, who would you say did better?
Both Alisson and Szczesny performed very well yesterday. They could make too many saves in the matches. Not sure which goalkeeper is better but I think both of them deserve to be the best goalkeeper in this week. Even if you didn't watch Barcelona match, you can see it in YT or you can see the report of the match by googling. Barcelona lost 1 player in minute 22', they only played with 10 players. It was just amazing that they could win the match.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 08, 2025, 04:54:14 AM

It's quite unfortunate that Benfica had to lose, even though they had a great opportunity after Barcelona had to play with 10 men in the 22nd minute. However, Benfica still had to lose by a very narrow score.

It must be admitted that the Barcelona goalkeeper's performance was very good in this match, many times he was able to break the opportunities created by Benfica so that he kept his goal safe from conceding.
I'm not a Barcelona fan at all, but I like to be fair, and I take my hat off to Barcelona, ​​they played very well, despite the fact that they were Shown a red card, the team managed to recover and adapt without him, and they were able to score the goal , of course it's very unfortunate for Benfica, the Portuguese team for me had no luck at all, and Sometimes these things are noticeable, there is still a chance, the advantage is clearly Barcelona's, the bad thing for Benfica is that they will play at the Camp Nou, although I say this, if they are irreverent enough they are capable of boring them in their own field, it can happen, it's all about the 'probabilities and the possibilities.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 08, 2025, 07:15:58 AM
It's quite unfortunate that Benfica had to lose, even though they had a great opportunity after Barcelona had to play with 10 men in the 22nd minute. However, Benfica still had to lose by a very narrow score.

It must be admitted that the Barcelona goalkeeper's performance was very good in this match, many times he was able to break the opportunities created by Benfica so that he kept his goal safe from conceding.
But the highest appreciation really must be given to Barcelona because they were still able to win even though they had played with only 10 players since the 22nd minute. This actually shows the difference in quality and strength between these two teams in the UCL this season. And I think in the second leg Barcelona will really score a lot of goals against Benfica. And actually it is quite unfortunate that Benfica failed to make good use of it in this match. When all the factors were in Benfica's favor in this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on March 08, 2025, 10:59:43 AM
It must be admitted that the Barcelona goalkeeper's performance was very good in this match, many times he was able to break the opportunities created by Benfica so that he kept his goal safe from conceding.
The best goalkeeper for me in the Champions League games this week was Alisson, because regardless of the pressure he faced, he was still very able to make many important saves and keep PSG from getting any goal. I did not watch the Barcelona game, but if you are to rate the performance of the two goalkeepers as someone who saw the two, who would you say did better?

Both had a good performance but you just have to give it to the one who had only 9 men in front of him instead of 10- Szczesny didn't get the attention he deserves.

And I think in the second leg Barcelona will really score a lot of goals against Benfica. And actually it is quite unfortunate that Benfica failed to make good use of it in this match. When all the factors were in Benfica's favor in this match.

The second leg is going to be a close one, Benfica had so many injuries and they will be returning before the second leg hopefully so it's going to be a different game entirely. Szczesny singlehandedly saved Barcelona in the first leg lets not forget that and things could change in the second leg this time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on March 08, 2025, 01:06:59 PM
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It's quite unfortunate that Benfica had to lose, even though they had a great opportunity after Barcelona had to play with 10 men in the 22nd minute. However, Benfica still had to lose by a very narrow score.

It must be admitted that the Barcelona goalkeeper's performance was very good in this match, many times he was able to break the opportunities created by Benfica so that he kept his goal safe from conceding.

I completely agree. It was an amazing performance; Szczesny was outstanding and he was named Man of the Match. He deserved it.
One of the reasons why Madrid has done so well in the UCL in the last decade and a half is because of their goalkeepers.
Casillas, Navas, and Courtois have been decisive in some of their matches. Casillas, Navas, and Courtois were decisive at some point during their run-ins. Barca might just have gotten Navas regen in Szczesny.
You observe quite well about the goalkeeper. Indeed, the goalkeeper has a very vital role in the defense area. Yes, even though we will focus on defense, if their defenders are successfully penetrated, the goalkeeper becomes the last person who will be relied on.

If you also pay attention, some teams that failed also because their goalkeeper made a fatal mistake that made them lose.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on March 08, 2025, 02:58:10 PM
The best goalkeeper for me in the Champions League games this week was Alisson, because regardless of the pressure he faced, he was still very able to make many important saves and keep PSG from getting any goal. I did not watch the Barcelona game, but if you are to rate the performance of the two goalkeepers as someone who saw the two, who would you say did better?
Both Alisson and Szczesny performed very well yesterday. They could make too many saves in the matches. Not sure which goalkeeper is better but I think both of them deserve to be the best goalkeeper in this week. Even if you didn't watch Barcelona match, you can see it in YT or you can see the report of the match by googling. Barcelona lost 1 player in minute 22', they only played with 10 players. It was just amazing that they could win the match.
I was very much surprised at what Allison was able to do in that match versus PSG. It has been so long I witnessed such an excellent goalkeeping. I didn't expect to see it from Allison but he did exceptionally well. After watching the match, I went back to check the statistics to be sure that it corresponded with what I watched on tv. When I discovered that Allison had 9.3 on a scale of 10, I was satisfied.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 08, 2025, 05:49:11 PM
I was very much surprised at what Allison was able to do in that match versus PSG. It has been so long I witnessed such an excellent goalkeeping. I didn't expect to see it from Allison but he did exceptionally well. After watching the match, I went back to check the statistics to be sure that it corresponded with what I watched on tv. When I discovered that Allison had 9.3 on a scale of 10, I was satisfied.

Allison made 9 saves against PSG. No goalkeeper in the Champions League this season has made more and kept a clean sheet, It was arguably Allison Becker's best performance of his career... It will be remembered for years to come.
But that's no surprise to me, as Alisson Becker has been one of the most formidable goalkeepers in the world since joining Liverpool in 2018 and has been a key part of their Champions League and Premier League victories in 2019 and 2020.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on March 08, 2025, 09:50:12 PM
Allison made 9 saves against PSG. No goalkeeper in the Champions League this season has made more and kept a clean sheet, It was arguably Allison Becker's best performance of his career... It will be remembered for years to come.
But that's no surprise to me, as Alisson Becker has been one of the most formidable goalkeepers in the world since joining Liverpool in 2018 and has been a key part of their Champions League and Premier League victories in 2019 and 2020.
Crucial 9 saves from Allison when Liverpool facing PSG at the first leg Champion League knock out round match, full defense make from Liverpool give advantage for PSG dominance and controlling the match until make many shot on goal than Liverpool during 90 minutes only have one shot but success scoring goal.
I don't think have advantage with Liverpool full defense games last match and must improve for next match against PSG at second leg, if keep full defense looks difficult keep hold for 90 minutes without conceded any one goal yet.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 09, 2025, 12:28:26 PM
A tough task for Leverkusen as they have to chase a 3 goal aggregate from Bayern Munich in the first leg. I am not sure they will be able to chase it even though nothing is impossible in football, but it is still very difficult for them to do.

Maybe luck can turn things around, and it must also be accompanied by a very promising game from Leverkusen, otherwise they have to accept that they have to be eliminated easily.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 09, 2025, 04:54:04 PM
Allison made 9 saves against PSG. No goalkeeper in the Champions League this season has made more and kept a clean sheet, It was arguably Allison Becker's best performance of his career... It will be remembered for years to come.
But that's no surprise to me, as Alisson Becker has been one of the most formidable goalkeepers in the world since joining Liverpool in 2018 and has been a key part of their Champions League and Premier League victories in 2019 and 2020.
Crucial 9 saves from Allison when Liverpool facing PSG at the first leg Champion League knock out round match, full defense make from Liverpool give advantage for PSG dominance and controlling the match until make many shot on goal than Liverpool during 90 minutes only have one shot but success scoring goal.
I don't think have advantage with Liverpool full defense games last match and must improve for next match against PSG at second leg, if keep full defense looks difficult keep hold for 90 minutes without conceded any one goal yet.

Yeah PSG showed a strong performance against Liverpool.
Funny as it is, PSG did everything to win it's so sad luck was on Liverpool's side.
It was the ideal game for Liverpool. That's what wins titles. It's the score at the end of the game, not the highlights. Something like that, anyway. But there's a saying luck eventually runs out.
And I agree, in the second leg Liverpool must be more aggressive in attack.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on March 09, 2025, 06:48:22 PM
Allison made 9 saves against PSG. No goalkeeper in the Champions League this season has made more and kept a clean sheet, It was arguably Allison Becker's best performance of his career... It will be remembered for years to come.
But that's no surprise to me, as Alisson Becker has been one of the most formidable goalkeepers in the world since joining Liverpool in 2018 and has been a key part of their Champions League and Premier League victories in 2019 and 2020.
Crucial 9 saves from Allison when Liverpool facing PSG at the first leg Champion League knock out round match, full defense make from Liverpool give advantage for PSG dominance and controlling the match until make many shot on goal than Liverpool during 90 minutes only have one shot but success scoring goal.
I don't think have advantage with Liverpool full defense games last match and must improve for next match against PSG at second leg, if keep full defense looks difficult keep hold for 90 minutes without conceded any one goal yet.

Yeah PSG showed a strong performance against Liverpool.
Funny as it is, PSG did everything to win it's so sad luck was on Liverpool's side.
It was the ideal game for Liverpool. That's what wins titles. It's the score at the end of the game, not the highlights. Something like that, anyway. But there's a saying luck eventually runs out.
And I agree, in the second leg Liverpool must be more aggressive in attack.
Football is something like this because we have seen teams like PSG dominate a game from start to finish and still end up losing because when it comes to football what matters is scoring of goals no body will be concerned about how you possessed the game but what is usually asked is what was the final score of the game, PSG should be more clinical in front of goals because for you to win critical games like this you have to be more clinical in front of goals and make good use of the chances that comes your way because that was what Liverpool did the only chance that they made a good use of the opportunities a scored
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on March 09, 2025, 09:11:42 PM
A tough task for Leverkusen as they have to chase a 3 goal aggregate from Bayern Munich in the first leg. I am not sure they will be able to chase it even though nothing is impossible in football, but it is still very difficult for them to do.

Maybe luck can turn things around, and it must also be accompanied by a very promising game from Leverkusen, otherwise they have to accept that they have to be eliminated easily.
Leverkusen has a very slim chance to turn the second leg game around for their qualification to the quarter finals. Their rival is not weak amd Bayern will also want to score more goals in the second leg. Leverkusen has missed it all and I am not expecting any surprises from them. It's a pity that Bayern is more experience in UCL than Leverkusen.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on March 10, 2025, 01:40:43 PM
A tough task for Leverkusen as they have to chase a 3 goal aggregate from Bayern Munich in the first leg. I am not sure they will be able to chase it even though nothing is impossible in football, but it is still very difficult for them to do.

Maybe luck can turn things around, and it must also be accompanied by a very promising game from Leverkusen, otherwise they have to accept that they have to be eliminated easily.
Leverkusen has a very slim chance to turn the second leg game around for their qualification to the quarter finals. Their rival is not weak amd Bayern will also want to score more goals in the second leg. Leverkusen has missed it all and I am not expecting any surprises from them. It's a pity that Bayern is more experience in UCL than Leverkusen.

Slim chance ? I wouldn’t call that a slim chance, I would say Bayer Leverkusen has zero chance of making it to the quarterfinals. It’s not only because of Bayern Munich being the better team as of now, but because Leverkusen have become toothless recently, it would be a miracle for Leverkusen to even score 2 unanswered goals, let alone overcoming the 3-goal deficit. I strongly believe thay Bayern Munich will even win the 2nd leg match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on March 10, 2025, 07:45:54 PM
A tough task for Leverkusen as they have to chase a 3 goal aggregate from Bayern Munich in the first leg. I am not sure they will be able to chase it even though nothing is impossible in football, but it is still very difficult for them to do.

Maybe luck can turn things around, and it must also be accompanied by a very promising game from Leverkusen, otherwise they have to accept that they have to be eliminated easily.
Leverkusen has a very slim chance to turn the second leg game around for their qualification to the quarter finals. Their rival is not weak amd Bayern will also want to score more goals in the second leg. Leverkusen has missed it all and I am not expecting any surprises from them. It's a pity that Bayern is more experience in UCL than Leverkusen.

Slim chance ? I wouldn’t call that a slim chance, I would say Bayer Leverkusen has zero chance of making it to the quarterfinals. It’s not only because of Bayern Munich being the better team as of now, but because Leverkusen have become toothless recently, it would be a miracle for Leverkusen to even score 2 unanswered goals, let alone overcoming the 3-goal deficit. I strongly believe thay Bayern Munich will even win the 2nd leg match.
It's still possible because in football anything is possible even though it will be a very tasky one for Leverkusen to overcome Bayarn Munich but it will be wrong for anyone to write off Leverkusen from this game because because Leverkusen has the potentials to win and advance to the next round of the competition, 2:0 will be ok for Leverkusen to take the game to extra time and see if they can win through penalty
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 10, 2025, 09:58:17 PM
A tough task for Leverkusen as they have to chase a 3 goal aggregate from Bayern Munich in the first leg. I am not sure they will be able to chase it even though nothing is impossible in football, but it is still very difficult for them to do.

Maybe luck can turn things around, and it must also be accompanied by a very promising game from Leverkusen, otherwise they have to accept that they have to be eliminated easily.
Leverkusen has a very slim chance to turn the second leg game around for their qualification to the quarter finals. Their rival is not weak amd Bayern will also want to score more goals in the second leg. Leverkusen has missed it all and I am not expecting any surprises from them. It's a pity that Bayern is more experience in UCL than Leverkusen.

Slim chance ? I wouldn’t call that a slim chance, I would say Bayer Leverkusen has zero chance of making it to the quarterfinals. It’s not only because of Bayern Munich being the better team as of now, but because Leverkusen have become toothless recently, it would be a miracle for Leverkusen to even score 2 unanswered goals, let alone overcoming the 3-goal deficit. I strongly believe thay Bayern Munich will even win the 2nd leg match.

Xabi will have to search, find, and provoke situations to get a chance in the game, but with Florian Wirtz out for a few weeks with an ankle injury, we should see a difference in the quality of the team. Leverkusen will struggle for a few weeks, so beating Bayern on their home turf is likely to be a mission impossible. IMO
The players and fans know and feel that but Xabi still needs to make the best out of the situation.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 10, 2025, 10:10:45 PM
A tough task for Leverkusen as they have to chase a 3 goal aggregate from Bayern Munich in the first leg. I am not sure they will be able to chase it even though nothing is impossible in football, but it is still very difficult for them to do.

Maybe luck can turn things around, and it must also be accompanied by a very promising game from Leverkusen, otherwise they have to accept that they have to be eliminated easily.
Leverkusen has a very slim chance to turn the second leg game around for their qualification to the quarter finals. Their rival is not weak amd Bayern will also want to score more goals in the second leg. Leverkusen has missed it all and I am not expecting any surprises from them. It's a pity that Bayern is more experience in UCL than Leverkusen.

Slim chance ? I wouldn’t call that a slim chance, I would say Bayer Leverkusen has zero chance of making it to the quarterfinals. It’s not only because of Bayern Munich being the better team as of now, but because Leverkusen have become toothless recently, it would be a miracle for Leverkusen to even score 2 unanswered goals, let alone overcoming the 3-goal deficit. I strongly believe thay Bayern Munich will even win the 2nd leg match.
It's still possible because in football anything is possible even though it will be a very tasky one for Leverkusen to overcome Bayarn Munich but it will be wrong for anyone to write off Leverkusen from this game because because Leverkusen has the potentials to win and advance to the next round of the competition, 2:0 will be ok for Leverkusen to take the game to extra time and see if they can win through penalty
Agreed that nothing is impossible in football, but not in this kind of case. Leverkusen would win against Bayern Munich, who has 3 goals against them.
The 3 goals are not easy for Leverkusen to equalize against a formidable team that is above them in the Bundesliga league table.
The least goals Leverkusen can score is two goals, that won't give them the victory to qualify over Bayern Munich.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on March 11, 2025, 04:45:06 PM
Agreed that nothing is impossible in football, but not in this kind of case. Leverkusen would win against Bayern Munich, who has 3 goals against them.
The 3 goals are not easy for Leverkusen to equalize against a formidable team that is above them in the Bundesliga league table.
The least goals Leverkusen can score is two goals, that won't give them the victory to qualify over Bayern Munich.

It is very difficult but not impossible
If i had to bet, i would bet on the winner or the one with a greater probability of winning

However, football is strange, you see the Leichester who once won the Premier League and is now going in relegation
You can never know what happens
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on March 11, 2025, 05:05:47 PM
Agreed that nothing is impossible in football, but not in this kind of case. Leverkusen would win against Bayern Munich, who has 3 goals against them.
The 3 goals are not easy for Leverkusen to equalize against a formidable team that is above them in the Bundesliga league table.
The least goals Leverkusen can score is two goals, that won't give them the victory to qualify over Bayern Munich.

It is very difficult but not impossible
If i had to bet, i would bet on the winner or the one with a greater probability of winning

However, football is strange, you see the Leichester who once won the Premier League and is now going in relegation
You can never know what happens
This has been my point too no team no matter how bad that team is should not be written off before a football game because in the realms of football nothing is impossible, we have seen it over and over again so this game is not an exception what you are only going to say is that Leverkusen is now playing without strikers due or their striking force I s now weak if not scoring two goals is not that kind of a tasky job in football for a team like Leverkusen
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 11, 2025, 05:33:29 PM
Leverkusen has a very slim chance to turn the second leg game around for their qualification to the quarter finals. Their rival is not weak amd Bayern will also want to score more goals in the second leg. Leverkusen has missed it all and I am not expecting any surprises from them. It's a pity that Bayern is more experience in UCL than Leverkusen.
Well, not much can be expected from Leverkusen this season. Because even though they performed extraordinary last season, they are not so good this season. There has been a slight decline in performance in the Leverkusen squad. So for their second leg match against Bayern, I think the result is almost predictable, namely that Bayern Munich will win the match again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on March 11, 2025, 08:45:35 PM
Barcelona have just confirmed their place in the last 8 of the competition, by seeing out Benfica with a 3-1 victory... Unlike the first leg, Barcelona were much more the dominant side tonight, they dominated the game for majority of the match duration and got themselves a much deserve victory.

Now it's all attention turned to the fixture of the day, between Liverpool and PSG at Anfield, PSG were clearly the better side a week ago and as many would agree they deserve at least a draw from that tie, but it is football, it is not always fair sometimes. Liverpool imo would have to play much better than they did last week to avoid unnecessary drama, because if PSG are allowed to play as well as they did last week, then it might be at the expense of Liverpool's quarterfinals' ticket.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on March 11, 2025, 11:07:38 PM
So Barcelona, Inter and Bayer are already through to the quarter-finals, while Liverpool and PSG are playing overtime.
Odds for tomorrow's games (to qualify):
Lille: x1.90
Dortmund: x1.90

Arsenal: no bets available
PSV: no bets available

Aston Villa: x1.02
Club Brugge: x14.00

Atletico Madrid: x3.33
Real Madrid: x1.33

If I had to bet, I'd probably put my money on Atletico, as it seems like the best value odds.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 11, 2025, 11:22:20 PM
Barcelona have just confirmed their place in the last 8 of the competition, by seeing out Benfica with a 3-1 victory... Unlike the first leg, Barcelona were much more the dominant side tonight, they dominated the game for majority of the match duration and got themselves a much deserve victory.
It was really a deserved 3-1 victory for Barcelona against Benfica. In the first leg, Barcelona saw only a goal at the back of the net of Benfica because they are the away team; being the host team in the second leg, they scored Benfica 3 goals, conceding only 1 goal(aggregate 4-1). What next for Barcelona. Barcelona will prepare to face either Borussia Dortmund or Lille, next in the quarter-finals
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on March 11, 2025, 11:22:44 PM
Liverpool vs PSG is the strongest and best game this time. The competition is very tight, very tight. With an aggregate of 1 - 0 in the first leg, in this second leg PSG was the one who could score 1 goal in the early minute. And it lasted. and now we are waiting for the results first, because the time is quite long.

And now, here are some of the winners to enter the next round.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/11/0sGcN.png)
- Inter Milan
- Bayern Munich
- Barcelona
source from google/champions league
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: debra on March 11, 2025, 11:47:43 PM
Liverpool vs PSG is the strongest and best game this time. The competition is very tight, very tight. With an aggregate of 1 - 0 in the first leg, in this second leg PSG was the one who could score 1 goal in the early minute. And it lasted. and now we are waiting for the results first, because the time is quite long.
Both teams are strong, it is not surprised if we have a tight match. With the aggregate 1-1, they must have a penalty kick round. Unfortunately, Liverpool isn't strong enough in penalty kick, 2 of their players failed. PSG won against Liverpool, PSG goes to the next round. Well, say good bye for Liverpool fans. Liverpool need to focus on domestic competition, England has many local competitions.  :D

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on March 11, 2025, 11:50:16 PM
Barcelona have just confirmed their place in the last 8 of the competition, by seeing out Benfica with a 3-1 victory... Unlike the first leg, Barcelona were much more the dominant side tonight, they dominated the game for majority of the match duration and got themselves a much deserve victory.
It was really a deserved 3-1 victory for Barcelona against Benfica. In the first leg, Barcelona saw only a goal at the back of the net of Benfica because they are the away team; being the host team in the second leg, they scored Benfica 3 goals, conceding only 1 goal(aggregate 4-1). What next for Barcelona. Barcelona will prepare to face either Borussia Dortmund or Lille, next in the quarter-finals

At this rate, I believe Barcelona are pretty much set for the semifinals, neither Lille or Dortmund would be able to stop them regardless of which team between makes it through.

Liverpool and slot have been stunned at Anfield, I guess a lot of people would have saw this coming given how well PSG performed in the 1st leg, I said it earlier that Liverpool needed to do better than they did in the first leg, but they didn't and that ends their hope winning a treble this season. I guess they'll be able to focus solely on the league now.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on March 11, 2025, 11:51:10 PM
And now, here are some of the winners to enter the next round.
Liverpool could not make the list; the PSG goalkeeper made sure of that in the penalty kick, saving Darwin Nunez's ball first and then another Liverpool player. Such a big blow for a team that had the lead entering this game.

In this competitions, I always feel that the experience of the coach matters a lot.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 11, 2025, 11:55:44 PM
One of the huge favorites to win this season already knocked after a penalty shootout. PSG giving LFC a tough time in the first leg wasn't some fluke after all. Kudos to them, they are most likely going to the semis after a performance like that. There's no way they will allow either Villa or Brugge to defeat them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on March 12, 2025, 12:00:32 AM
Both teams are strong, it is not surprised if we have a tight match. With the aggregate 1-1, they must have a penalty kick round. Unfortunately, Liverpool isn't strong enough in penalty kick, 2 of their players failed. PSG won against Liverpool, PSG goes to the next round.

Yup, I knew that Liverpool needed to press harder and score a goal to prevent the penalty shootout from happening. After a totally undeserved win in the 1st leg and after losing 0-1 tonight, they must've had a mental disadvantage which could affect the outcome.

Anyhow, there are still 2 Premier League clubs left in play.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Yamzakid on March 12, 2025, 08:38:36 AM
Anyhow, there are still 2 Premier League clubs left in play.
Do you believe they can continue to compete to the end? though the two remaining Premier League clubs are doing well, but the other teams in this Champions League are performing far better than they are. Only Liverpool, who I had hoped to run this race to the final and was eliminated yesterday, so I doubt the two remaining Premier League clubs will make it to the final, but only if a miracle happens.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on March 12, 2025, 01:06:26 PM
Anyhow, there are still 2 Premier League clubs left in play.
Do you believe they can continue to compete to the end? though the two remaining Premier League clubs are doing well, but the other teams in this Champions League are performing far better than they are. Only Liverpool, who I had hoped to run this race to the final and was eliminated yesterday, so I doubt the two remaining Premier League clubs will make it to the final, but only if a miracle happens.

I sincerely don't fancy their chances of the remaining premier league teams, Arsenal and Aston Villa are likely going to be out in the next phase, Arsenal would face either Real Madrid or Atletico, perhaps their chance to qualify could be higher if Atletico could upset Real Madrid tonight, asides that I really don't picture this Arsenal team defeating Real Madrid over a 2 legged fixture in the UCL right now.

As for the other PL team Aston Villa, they'll be facing PSG next, if Liverpool couldn't get the job done to knockout PSG, I doubt Aston Villa would be able to,  but I guess time will tell.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 12, 2025, 01:43:58 PM
Anyhow, there are still 2 Premier League clubs left in play.
Do you believe they can continue to compete to the end? though the two remaining Premier League clubs are doing well, but the other teams in this Champions League are performing far better than they are. Only Liverpool, who I had hoped to run this race to the final and was eliminated yesterday, so I doubt the two remaining Premier League clubs will make it to the final, but only if a miracle happens.
From the English Premier League representatives, I was more confident in Liverpool, but it turned out to be wrong because they finally lost at home. It was really painful.

Somehow they played not like usual when facing Paris Saint Germain. Even though more people supported them, and I'm sure many people failed in their bets because they bet on Liverpool.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 12, 2025, 04:25:05 PM
One of the huge favorites to win this season already knocked after a penalty shootout. PSG giving LFC a tough time in the first leg wasn't some fluke after all. Kudos to them, they are most likely going to the semis after a performance like that. There's no way they will allow either Villa or Brugge to defeat them.

The players and coaches of PSG carried out a mission impossible at Anfield.
I can say PSG deserves to win. They played better in both legs and got a good team there.
After this game, no team wants to mess with PSG, not even Barca or Madrid. PSG is not full of stars, it is full of brilliant players. Ousmane Dembele, Nuno Mendes, Vitinha, and Khvicha add extra pace and brilliant ball-carrying ability. 
Barcola is the best young, he will compete with Lamin Yamal. Congratulations PSG...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on March 12, 2025, 06:04:59 PM
From the English Premier League representatives, I was more confident in Liverpool, but it turned out to be wrong because they finally lost at home. It was really painful.

Somehow they played not like usual when facing Paris Saint Germain. Even though more people supported them, and I'm sure many people failed in their bets because they bet on Liverpool.
Won all phase league round matches make Liverpool most favorable winning the Champion League trophy, have confidence after winning first leg from PSG as away match make Liverpool get more advantage for securing the quarter final round. But always have unpredictable result for every Champion League match due PSG perform well and come back for winning 1-0 goals and make games continue to penalty kick.
Donnaruma performed well last night and success block two Liverpool players penalty kick, now after Liverpool eliminating what your favorite team for winning Champion League?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on March 12, 2025, 06:28:19 PM
Anyhow, there are still 2 Premier League clubs left in play.
Do you believe they can continue to compete to the end? though the two remaining Premier League clubs are doing well, but the other teams in this Champions League are performing far better than they are. Only Liverpool, who I had hoped to run this race to the final and was eliminated yesterday, so I doubt the two remaining Premier League clubs will make it to the final, but only if a miracle happens.

If the remaining two Premier League clubs make it out of this round, I doubt they will be eliminated in the next round. Aston Villa and Arsenal performance are not stable this season, It was still surprising that Aston Villa make it to this round when they are performing bad in the Premier League.

Liverpool is the only team I had also hoped to make it to the Champions League final but even if they were able to beat PSG, Real Madrid might end their Champions League run if they meet in the semifinals. I am sure next round would be the end of the Champions League for the remaining two Champions League because Arsenal has no chance of beating Real Madrid and Aston Villa cannot withstand the pressure of PSG.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on March 12, 2025, 06:34:11 PM
From the English Premier League representatives, I was more confident in Liverpool, but it turned out to be wrong because they finally lost at home. It was really painful.

Somehow they played not like usual when facing Paris Saint Germain. Even though more people supported them, and I'm sure many people failed in their bets because they bet on Liverpool.
Won all phase league round matches make Liverpool most favorable winning the Champion League trophy, have confidence after winning first leg from PSG as away match make Liverpool get more advantage for securing the quarter final round. But always have unpredictable result for every Champion League match due PSG perform well and come back for winning 1-0 goals and make games continue to penalty kick.
Donnaruma performed well last night and success block two Liverpool players penalty kick, now after Liverpool eliminating what your favorite team for winning Champion League?
These is the reason why football is unique and unpredictable the ability of teams to cause upsets but from the first leg of this game it was obvious that PSG was the better team and looked hungry it was even luck that was on the part of Liverpool in the first leg of not this game will have been over since the first leg, coming to the second leg liverpool underated PSG due to the fact that they won away from home and was coming home to play, this is surely a big blow to Liverpool and the entire premier League because Liverpool is the best team in the premier League right now
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on March 12, 2025, 08:00:39 PM
From the English Premier League representatives, I was more confident in Liverpool, but it turned out to be wrong because they finally lost at home. It was really painful.

Somehow they played not like usual when facing Paris Saint Germain. Even though more people supported them, and I'm sure many people failed in their bets because they bet on Liverpool.

If we observed the first leg of Liverpool game against Paris Saint Germain, it ended up in a luck for Liverpool to in the final minute of the game, many people were surprised that Liverpool won the first leg because PSG attacked more and had more shots on target, so during the second leg at Anfield, I do not expect Liverpool to make it to the next round.

Many people will lose their bets since Liverpool can usually be confident while playing at home, and I am sure many people predict them to have the same luck they did in the first leg. Furthermore, Liverpool created more opportunities in the second leg compared to the first.  Arne Slot hope of winning the Champions League this season is over, they should focus on the Premier League and the Carabao Cup final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 12, 2025, 09:12:06 PM
The Atletico Madrid vs Real Madrid match has started and entered the 9th minute and unexpectedly, Atletico Madrid is now 1 goal ahead and has made the aggregate equal, namely 2-2. I think what happened to Liverpool could also happen to Real Madrid. Although of course no one would expect that. Because I'm sure Real Madrid fans will hope that Real Madrid can go far in the UCL like last season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on March 12, 2025, 10:27:06 PM
The Atletico Madrid vs Real Madrid match has started and entered the 9th minute and unexpectedly, Atletico Madrid is now 1 goal ahead and has made the aggregate equal, namely 2-2. I think what happened to Liverpool could also happen to Real Madrid. Although of course no one would expect that. Because I'm sure Real Madrid fans will hope that Real Madrid can go far in the UCL like last season.
There is still time for Real Madrid to score again but they are still trying to break through Atletico's strong defense.
At least if the result is lost 1-0 for Real Madrid then extra time will be decisive but if there are no more goals then the possibility of another penalty shootout.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on March 12, 2025, 10:42:26 PM
The Atletico Madrid vs Real Madrid match has started and entered the 9th minute and unexpectedly, Atletico Madrid is now 1 goal ahead and has made the aggregate equal, namely 2-2. I think what happened to Liverpool could also happen to Real Madrid. Although of course no one would expect that. Because I'm sure Real Madrid fans will hope that Real Madrid can go far in the UCL like last season.
There is still time for Real Madrid to score again but they are still trying to break through Atletico's strong defense.
At least if the result is lost 1-0 for Real Madrid then extra time will be decisive but if there are no more goals then the possibility of another penalty shootout.
The scoreline is still the same and none of the teams are able to find the back of the net after Atletico took the lead early. I am expecting on of them to score before 90 minutes will be ovee. However, if they don't, it means that a penalty shootout might end it after 120 minutes. I can't say who will win the game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on March 12, 2025, 10:44:13 PM
The Atletico Madrid vs Real Madrid match has started and entered the 9th minute and unexpectedly, Atletico Madrid is now 1 goal ahead and has made the aggregate equal, namely 2-2. I think what happened to Liverpool could also happen to Real Madrid. Although of course no one would expect that. Because I'm sure Real Madrid fans will hope that Real Madrid can go far in the UCL like last season.
There is still time for Real Madrid to score again but they are still trying to break through Atletico's strong defense.
At least if the result is lost 1-0 for Real Madrid then extra time will be decisive but if there are no more goals then the possibility of another penalty shootout.

Real Madrid had the best chance of the night to score from the penalty spot, but it was squandered by Vinicius, not pointing fingers or trying to pass a blame, I thought Mbappe has become now Real Madrid’s penalty taker, so I was a bit surprised to Vinicius walk up to take the kick. There is less than 8 minutes of regular time to play now, and Real Madrid would need to come up with something.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 12, 2025, 11:00:04 PM
From the English Premier League representatives, I was more confident in Liverpool, but it turned out to be wrong because they finally lost at home. It was really painful.

Somehow they played not like usual when facing Paris Saint Germain. Even though more people supported them, and I'm sure many people failed in their bets because they bet on Liverpool.
Won all phase league round matches make Liverpool most favorable winning the Champion League trophy, have confidence after winning first leg from PSG as away match make Liverpool get more advantage for securing the quarter final round. But always have unpredictable result for every Champion League match due PSG perform well and come back for winning 1-0 goals and make games continue to penalty kick.
Donnaruma performed well last night and success block two Liverpool players penalty kick, now after Liverpool eliminating what your favorite team for winning Champion League?
It is difficult to determine who is the biggest favorite to become the champion, because I see all teams are almost evenly matched.

Another match between Atletico Madrid vs Real Madrid also had to be continued in extra time after Atletico Madrid was able to score 1 goal and make the score equal. Again, it is difficult to determine who will win in the end. Everything becomes difficult because they have the same chances in the remaining time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on March 12, 2025, 11:01:54 PM
Dortmund got through
Aston Villa got through
Arsenal got through

Now we're just waiting for extra time in Atletico Vs Real. As I mentioned yesterday, I think betting on Atletico was a good idea, they played really well today and created more chances than Real. I don't know what the outcome will be, but Atletico, in my opinion, is more deserving of advancing to the quarter-final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on March 12, 2025, 11:27:17 PM
Dortmund got through
Aston Villa got through
Arsenal got through
It is quite predictable. All the favorite teams won the matches.
Well, we have 2 EPL teams. These teams can meet in semifinal if they can win in the next round.

Now we're just waiting for extra time in Atletico Vs Real. As I mentioned yesterday, I think betting on Atletico was a good idea, they played really well today and created more chances than Real. I don't know what the outcome will be, but Atletico, in my opinion, is more deserving of advancing to the quarter-final.
Even if Atletico Madrid dominated the match, Real Madrid still has a chance to win. I'm sure Real Madrid has a better mentality when it is in extension time. Moreover if there will be a penalty shoutout, I prefer Real Madrid to win it. Courtois is best when it is penalty shoutout.  :D

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on March 12, 2025, 11:28:10 PM
but Atletico, in my opinion, is more deserving of advancing to the quarter-final.
I would like them to make qualification and for Real Madrid to go home. they should also have a chance to win the champions League representing Spain together with Barcelona because it has always been Real Madrid and Barcelona through to the last stages of the champions League for a couple of seasons coming.

Atletico have invested enough and are also deserving of it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on March 12, 2025, 11:49:43 PM
Penalty result: Atletico Madrid 2-4 Real Madrid.

The match has finished. Real Madrid won in the penalty shoutout. As I said, Courtois is  best when it is penalty shoutout.  :D

It is interesting to see the next round because Real Madrid will face Arsenal. It will be a big match because Arsenal is also very strong. Again, Real Madrid will face a tough opponent.


Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on March 12, 2025, 11:52:16 PM
Liverpool vs PSG is the strongest and best game this time. The competition is very tight, very tight. With an aggregate of 1 - 0 in the first leg, in this second leg PSG was the one who could score 1 goal in the early minute. And it lasted. and now we are waiting for the results first, because the time is quite long.
Both teams are strong, it is not surprised if we have a tight match. With the aggregate 1-1, they must have a penalty kick round. Unfortunately, Liverpool isn't strong enough in penalty kick, 2 of their players failed. PSG won against Liverpool, PSG goes to the next round. Well, say good bye for Liverpool fans. Liverpool need to focus on domestic competition, England has many local competitions.  :D
Yes, for penalties, PSG is much more prepared, and it seems they are aiming for this at least. They have a very strong goalkeeper, and this makes Liverpool's executioners frustrated.

and the crazier thing is, Atltico Madrid was able to excel over Real Madrid since the first few seconds. So yes, penalty shootouts. this is very exciting, really.

and in the end, the result is a victory by Real Madrid with a penalty kick the result is 2 - 4.
Congratulations.
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Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Nheer on March 12, 2025, 11:59:49 PM
but Atletico, in my opinion, is more deserving of advancing to the quarter-final.
I would like them to make qualification and for Real Madrid to go home. they should also have a chance to win the champions League representing Spain together with Barcelona because it has always been Real Madrid and Barcelona through to the last stages of the champions League for a couple of seasons coming.

Atletico have invested enough and are also deserving of it.
What a match for both team, the match ended both teams really performed very good but Real Madrid has A lot  of possession than the Atl Madrid but both team really played perfectly. Real Madrid has won the match on penalties and I guess they won’t go home, they are on the quarterfinals now I hope they hit semi finals and finals soon. Hala Madrid to the top. We will be waiting for Real Madrid next match against Arsenal we hope for the best for Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on March 13, 2025, 01:02:08 AM
but Atletico, in my opinion, is more deserving of advancing to the quarter-final.
I would like them to make qualification and for Real Madrid to go home. they should also have a chance to win the champions League representing Spain together with Barcelona because it has always been Real Madrid and Barcelona through to the last stages of the champions League for a couple of seasons coming.

Atletico have invested enough and are also deserving of it.
What a match for both team, the match ended both teams really performed very good but Real Madrid has A lot  of possession than the Atl Madrid but both team really played perfectly. Real Madrid has won the match on penalties and I guess they won’t go home, they are on the quarterfinals now I hope they hit semi finals and finals soon. Hala Madrid to the top. We will be waiting for Real Madrid next match against Arsenal we hope for the best for Madrid.

Real Madrid as usual always find a way to win in the UCL, when all the chips are down and they're getting outplayed, you just can never rule out this football club, no wonder they're the most successful team in the competition.

Not to take away anything from either team's effort tonight, Yes, Atletico Madrid did play their hearts out, and would have been deserving winners too if they had won the match.

The penalty disallowed from Julian Alvarez is a huge controversial one, even after the replays I still couldn't see the infringement from him, perhaps there will some angles of videos that would show exactly what the VAR ruling was all about because neither the referee nor opposing the keeper saw it, and they were in really close proximity to the play.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on March 13, 2025, 01:14:41 PM
but Atletico, in my opinion, is more deserving of advancing to the quarter-final.
I would like them to make qualification and for Real Madrid to go home. they should also have a chance to win the champions League representing Spain together with Barcelona because it has always been Real Madrid and Barcelona through to the last stages of the champions League for a couple of seasons coming.

Atletico have invested enough and are also deserving of it.
I also strongly rooted for Atletico Madrid to qualify ahead of Real Madrid and they so deserved it if not for some kind of inconsistency in the officiating of the match. Having ATM advanced would have brought a new vibe in the next round of competition. We all know the Real Madrid way of stealing glory. That is what will be happening from henceforth. Simeone and his guys worked hard and I think they deserved the next round but sometimes football is very much unfair.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 13, 2025, 04:58:37 PM
What a match for both team, the match ended both teams really performed very good but Real Madrid has A lot  of possession than the Atl Madrid but both team really played perfectly. Real Madrid has won the match on penalties and I guess they won’t go home, they are on the quarterfinals now I hope they hit semi finals and finals soon. Hala Madrid to the top. We will be waiting for Real Madrid next match against Arsenal we hope for the best for Madrid.
Everyone played very well in that match. Atletico Madrid have also shown their maximum performance and the result is that they still cannot progress further in the UCL this season. And even though there were several things that were quite controversial in the match, whatever it was, we also have to appreciate Real Madrid, who deserved to win because they were not only superior in terms of the quality of their game, but mentally we could see that the Real Madrid players were also superior. because it is not easy to take a penalty shootout at home to your opponent but Real Madrid still managed to do it. And great appreciation also for Atletico Madrid because they have played very well. And actually, Real Madrid were quite often overwhelmed in this match by the attacks made by the Atletico Madrid squad. Unfortunately, only 1 attack managed to score a goal for Atletico Madrid. Now Real Madrid also has a tough opponent in the quarter-finals. And of course the quarter-final match will be more difficult to predict.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 13, 2025, 06:42:32 PM

The penalty disallowed from Julian Alvarez is a huge controversial one, even after the replays I still couldn't see the infringement from him, perhaps there will some angles of videos that would show exactly what the VAR ruling was all about because neither the referee nor opposing the keeper saw it, and they were in really close proximity to the play.

There was no rigging. Microchips are installed on the ball.
The tech inside the ball is the one that made VAR go back and view it because it alerted to having been touched by two people, and that's why they had to review it. The semi-automatic offside also works with the sensors inside the ball. UEFA tech is top.

BTW. Since 2014, Real Madrid has eliminated Atletico Madrid in the Champions League in two finals (2014, 2016) and one round of 16 this season (2024-25)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on March 13, 2025, 06:57:12 PM
What a match for both team, the match ended both teams really performed very good but Real Madrid has A lot  of possession than the Atl Madrid but both team really played perfectly. Real Madrid has won the match on penalties and I guess they won’t go home, they are on the quarterfinals now I hope they hit semi finals and finals soon. Hala Madrid to the top. We will be waiting for Real Madrid next match against Arsenal we hope for the best for Madrid.
Everyone played very well in that match. Atletico Madrid have also shown their maximum performance and the result is that they still cannot progress further in the UCL this season. And even though there were several things that were quite controversial in the match, whatever it was, we also have to appreciate Real Madrid, who deserved to win because they were not only superior in terms of the quality of their game, but mentally we could see that the Real Madrid players were also superior. because it is not easy to take a penalty shootout at home to your opponent but Real Madrid still managed to do it. And great appreciation also for Atletico Madrid because they have played very well. And actually, Real Madrid were quite often overwhelmed in this match by the attacks made by the Atletico Madrid squad. Unfortunately, only 1 attack managed to score a goal for Atletico Madrid. Now Real Madrid also has a tough opponent in the quarter-finals. And of course the quarter-final match will be more difficult to predict.
Both teams showed character in the game I have to particularly praise ATM for the kind of fight that they put up against madrid because watching the game I was super impressed by the way ATM held madrid to a ransom and played with Madrid man to man this kind of performance is very rare especially when teams play against madrid. I will say that Madrid was only lucky because when it comes to penalties shots out it's entirely a lucky affair and so Madrid get it over ATM but that doesn't mean that ATM was bad in the game ATM has really improved this season because this was a team that finds it difficult to even get a win at the start of the season ATM has to shift their attention to the laliga title race because with the performance that I see them against Madrid yesterday they are a threat to the laliga title race this season
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on March 13, 2025, 08:10:01 PM
There was no rigging. Microchips are installed on the ball.
The tech inside the ball is the one that made VAR go back and view it because it alerted to having been touched by two people, and that's why they had to review it. The semi-automatic offside also works with the sensors inside the ball. UEFA tech is top.

BTW. Since 2014, Real Madrid has eliminated Atletico Madrid in the Champions League in two finals (2014, 2016) and one round of 16 this season (2024-25)
But this VAR decision caused a lot of anger for Atletico Madrid fans because they said it was unfair because it was not intentional. On the other hand, we understand that VAR technology is now detailed.
But he said he read in the X news this rule will be discussed again by them because it creates new conflicts.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on March 13, 2025, 08:49:27 PM
But this VAR decision caused a lot of anger for Atletico Madrid fans because they said it was unfair because it was not intentional. On the other hand, we understand that VAR technology is now detailed.
But he said he read in the X news this rule will be discussed again by them because it creates new conflicts.

Rules is rules and there is nobody that can change anything about it. Alvarez admitted to have touch the ball twice, Atletico Madrid that are ranting didn't bother to file a complaint but were happy but it's some fans that are angry. They must have really hated Real Madrid, they are one of the best team with high Champions League in history.

I'm sure  that Fifa is going to look into it and a conclusion about the revise will come or not. I just want people should know that when something is a rule, don't fail for it and that's why Alvarez never complained but some Barcelona fans are really angry because it's their nightmare.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on March 13, 2025, 09:18:45 PM
I'm sure  that Fifa is going to look into it and a conclusion about the revise will come or not. I just want people should know that when something is a rule, don't fail for it and that's why Alvarez never complained but some Barcelona fans are really angry because it's their nightmare.
Yes, as discussed, they will have a meeting about this.
Certainly many do not accept because Atletico Madrid itself has sent a letter to EUFA about this decision but however this is already legal and will not be repeated again.
What Atletico Madrid fans feel now may be deep disappointment.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on March 13, 2025, 09:45:54 PM
I'm sure  that Fifa is going to look into it and a conclusion about the revise will come or not. I just want people should know that when something is a rule, don't fail for it and that's why Alvarez never complained but some Barcelona fans are really angry because it's their nightmare.
Yes, as discussed, they will have a meeting about this.
Certainly many do not accept because Atletico Madrid itself has sent a letter to EUFA about this decision but however this is already legal and will not be repeated again.
What Atletico Madrid fans feel now may be deep disappointment.
I don't see any unfair play in what happened to Alvarez in the penalty shootout. A player taking the penalty should not use his two legs to touch the ball, because it's against penalty rules. Just one touch which should be a shot. Alvarez touched the ball twice which was why his PK was ruled out. Alvarez should learn how to play penalties in a critical match like that of yesterday.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on March 13, 2025, 09:58:39 PM

The penalty disallowed from Julian Alvarez is a huge controversial one, even after the replays I still couldn't see the infringement from him, perhaps there will some angles of videos that would show exactly what the VAR ruling was all about because neither the referee nor opposing the keeper saw it, and they were in really close proximity to the play.

There was no rigging. Microchips are installed on the ball.
The tech inside the ball is the one that made VAR go back and view it because it alerted to having been touched by two people, and that's why they had to review it. The semi-automatic offside also works with the sensors inside the ball. UEFA tech is top.

BTW. Since 2014, Real Madrid has eliminated Atletico Madrid in the Champions League in two finals (2014, 2016) and one round of 16 this season (2024-25)


I said controversial, I didn’t say it was rigged. I understand that rules are rules, and sometimes like in the case of this one, it was an extremely unfair situation. Perhaps, If the VAR hadn’t solely made the decision without consulting the referee it would have been a different outcome, I believe the very least that could have been done was to allow the referee use his personal discretion to interpret the play.

I guess this further just highlight the number of rules that the UEFA and other Footballing bodies new to revisit for adjustment.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on March 13, 2025, 10:57:02 PM
BTW. Since 2014, Real Madrid has eliminated Atletico Madrid in the Champions League in two finals (2014, 2016) and one round of 16 this season (2024-25)
Many people like to refer to Atletico Madrid as the Arsenal of Spain because of how close they come many times. They were very close to sending Real Madrid home as PSG did to Liverpool, they played a very good game, but still failed at the end.

I hope Arteta took lessons from the game on how to handle Real Madrid. We have to take the game to them and not sit back and wait for them to attack us. Our defense is not impenetrable.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on March 13, 2025, 11:59:49 PM
BTW. Since 2014, Real Madrid has eliminated Atletico Madrid in the Champions League in two finals (2014, 2016) and one round of 16 this season (2024-25)
Many people like to refer to Atletico Madrid as the Arsenal of Spain because of how close they come many times. They were very close to sending Real Madrid home as PSG did to Liverpool, they played a very good game, but still failed at the end.

I hope Arteta took lessons from the game on how to handle Real Madrid. We have to take the game to them and not sit back and wait for them to attack us. Our defense is not impenetrable.
Yes, they failed in penalty shootouts. One of the factors was the disallowed penalty goal from Alvarez, which until now there is still a lot of debate especially on social media between fans and so on. This is indeed quite surprising because the goal was disallowed, but after listening to the referee's advice after looking at VAr and other auxiliary sensors, I still believe that it was a double touch. and congratulations to Real Madrid, and keep the spirit for Atletico Madrid. they played very great.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on March 14, 2025, 12:20:24 AM
Updated odds for the outright winner of the UCL (by DuelBits):

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/13/0ybF1.png)

What are your picks?

I'm not surprised to see Barcelona as the favourite, they've been doing really well so far and got matched up against Dortmund, which is considered the weakest team in the bunch.
But if I had to bet, I'd probably go with Inter, simply because of the attractive odds. In terms of skills, they might be slightly behind the higher-rated clubs like Barcelona or Real, but they are currently leading Serie A and made it to the quarter-finals so they must be doing something right.
A small-size bet on Borussia is also tempting. They made it to the final last season, so maybe they could do it again, but I can't quite imagine them eliminating Barcelona.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on March 14, 2025, 08:43:57 AM
Updated odds for the outright winner of the UCL (by DuelBits):

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/13/0ybF1.png)

What are your picks?

I'm not surprised to see Barcelona as the favourite, they've been doing really well so far and got matched up against Dortmund, which is considered the weakest team in the bunch.
But if I had to bet, I'd probably go with Inter, simply because of the attractive odds. In terms of skills, they might be slightly behind the higher-rated clubs like Barcelona or Real, but they are currently leading Serie A and made it to the quarter-finals so they must be doing something right.
A small-size bet on Borussia is also tempting. They made it to the final last season, so maybe they could do it again, but I can't quite imagine them eliminating Barcelona.

wow Inter is given at 11, very high as a score
I'm surprised that Barcelona has a lower score than Real Madrid, thinking about it i don't agree, i don't see such a huge difference between them
In fact, Real Madrid seems to me to be a better team than Barcelona
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on March 14, 2025, 10:21:03 AM
Yes, they failed in penalty shootouts. One of the factors was the disallowed penalty goal from Alvarez, which until now there is still a lot of debate especially on social media between fans and so on. This is indeed quite surprising because the goal was disallowed, but after listening to the referee's advice after looking at VAr and other auxiliary sensors, I still believe that it was a double touch. and congratulations to Real Madrid, and keep the spirit for Atletico Madrid. they played very great.
Real Madrid always has better mentality to deal with the situation like a penalty shoutout. It is not the first time happening, so I'm not so surprised with this result. Regarding the double touch of Alvarez penalty, it has been evaluated with VAR technology. So, it should be accurate, why we must debate it? I saw many people in social media who disagree with the referee's decision. I think they don't understand football.  :D

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on March 14, 2025, 03:35:05 PM
Poor Dortmund basically written off by the bookies with that @40 odds ;D Well, it's tough to argue with the number because they will be facing a Barcelona that's in good form.

The most interesting match up for me is Bayern vs. Inter. Whoever wins this battle increases their chances of winning it all.

As to who will win, I like the chance of PSG. I thought they will be out early but they're doing well.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 14, 2025, 08:31:30 PM
There was no rigging. Microchips are installed on the ball.
The tech inside the ball is the one that made VAR go back and view it because it alerted to having been touched by two people, and that's why they had to review it. The semi-automatic offside also works with the sensors inside the ball. UEFA tech is top.

BTW. Since 2014, Real Madrid has eliminated Atletico Madrid in the Champions League in two finals (2014, 2016) and one round of 16 this season (2024-25)
But this VAR decision caused a lot of anger for Atletico Madrid fans because they said it was unfair because it was not intentional. On the other hand, we understand that VAR technology is now detailed.
But he said he read in the X news this rule will be discussed again by them because it creates new conflicts.

I'm not surprised by the actions of the fans even their manager protested strongly against this decision, but rules are rules and decisions have been made. Everyone has to abide by them.
Atlético fans racist chants against Vini. A few Atlético fans spat on Courtois as he entered the tunnel, and Lighters were thrown at Courtois. Objects and water bottles were thrown at Real Madrid players.
There are consequences for the club: the Atletico Madrid Ultras have been banned from the home stadium for three matches. The club must also pay a fine of 45,000 euros. lol
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on March 14, 2025, 08:40:44 PM
Poor Dortmund basically written off by the bookies with that @40 odds ;D Well, it's tough to argue with the number because they will be facing a Barcelona that's in good form.

The most interesting match up for me is Bayern vs. Inter. Whoever wins this battle increases their chances of winning it all.

As to who will win, I like the chance of PSG. I thought they will be out early but they're doing well.
Interesting matches coming up in the next phase of the champions League but the match between Barcelona and Dortmund is one match that should not be seen as an easy one for Barcelona because Dortmund has shown that they can play against any team because Dortmund making it to this round of the champions League is a miracle because they where really struggling badly this season and the change of manager in the team has really helped them, so Barcelona should approach this game with all seriousness knowing that Dortmund could be dangerous when playing against
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on March 15, 2025, 10:46:20 PM
I saw many people in social media who disagree with the referee's decision. I think they don't understand football.  :D
Added to the Var, these balls of these days have sensors most times, so decisions are even more accurate. Real Madrid are most lucky; let that luck not shine against Arsenal.

I would have loved it more had the Champions League schedule started at the Madrid stadium first before the second leg at the Emirates. The first leg holds at the Emirates, and Arsenal needs to make sure to score enough goals and have the lead before going to the second leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on March 16, 2025, 03:20:58 PM
I saw many people in social media who disagree with the referee's decision. I think they don't understand football.  :D
Added to the Var, these balls of these days have sensors most times, so decisions are even more accurate. Real Madrid are most lucky; let that luck not shine against Arsenal.

I would have loved it more had the Champions League schedule started at the Madrid stadium first before the second leg at the Emirates. The first leg holds at the Emirates, and Arsenal needs to make sure to score enough goals and have the lead before going to the second leg.
The technology that exists in football today helps the referee's performance so that they can make the right decision and not harm the other team. But will it be 100% error-free? Of course not.

I don't want to comment much, because in the past there were actually many worse incidents and that's what makes football so exciting, even though it ultimately causes controversy.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on March 16, 2025, 04:24:17 PM
Updated odds for the outright winner of the UCL (by DuelBits):

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/13/0ybF1.png)

What are your picks?

I'm not surprised to see Barcelona as the favourite, they've been doing really well so far and got matched up against Dortmund, which is considered the weakest team in the bunch.
But if I had to bet, I'd probably go with Inter, simply because of the attractive odds. In terms of skills, they might be slightly behind the higher-rated clubs like Barcelona or Real, but they are currently leading Serie A and made it to the quarter-finals so they must be doing something right.
A small-size bet on Borussia is also tempting. They made it to the final last season, so maybe they could do it again, but I can't quite imagine them eliminating Barcelona.
It's going to be tough selecting among the remaining teams in the champions League because there is still three rounds of matches Left to play but I have problem with the odds that are given by the bookmakers because there is no way they are given arsenal 8 odds while inter Milan is been given 11 odds , I don't think that this odds are a true reflection of the teams individual strengths
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on March 16, 2025, 06:47:25 PM
Interesting matches coming up in the next phase of the champions League but the match between Barcelona and Dortmund is one match that should not be seen as an easy one for Barcelona because Dortmund has shown that they can play against any team because Dortmund making it to this round of the champions League is a miracle because they where really struggling badly this season and the change of manager in the team has really helped them, so Barcelona should approach this game with all seriousness knowing that Dortmund could be dangerous when playing against
In domestic league, Dortmund have bad performed and not sure yet will defeating Barcelona at UEFA Champion League quarter final round? Last match, Dortmund defeated by RB Leipzig and looks their performance huge difference when playing at domestic league or UEFA Champion League. In my prediction, Barcelona not get difficulty for defeating Dortmund but have difficult opponent teams to face at semifinal round between Inter Milan or Bayern Munich.
In other batch, I believe Madrid with winning mentality will beat Arsenal and waiting the winner between PSG vs Aston Villa likely PSG will qualify to quarter final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 16, 2025, 08:15:40 PM
Updated odds for the outright winner of the UCL (by DuelBits):

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/13/0ybF1.png)

What are your picks?

I'm not surprised to see Barcelona as the favourite, they've been doing really well so far and got matched up against Dortmund, which is considered the weakest team in the bunch.
But if I had to bet, I'd probably go with Inter, simply because of the attractive odds. In terms of skills, they might be slightly behind the higher-rated clubs like Barcelona or Real, but they are currently leading Serie A and made it to the quarter-finals so they must be doing something right.
A small-size bet on Borussia is also tempting. They made it to the final last season, so maybe they could do it again, but I can't quite imagine them eliminating Barcelona.

wow Inter is given at 11, very high as a score
I'm surprised that Barcelona has a lower score than Real Madrid, thinking about it i don't agree, i don't see such a huge difference between them
In fact, Real Madrid seems to me to be a better team than Barcelona
I doubt if Real Madrid is the better team than Barcelona in lifting the Champions League trophy. Based on both team's comparison in matches won recently, Barcelona is the better team than Real Madrid in that angle. Maybe it will be when Barcelona's performance decreases that I can say Real Madrid can win the Champions League trophy. If nothing of that happens, Barcelona keeps being the formidable team, winning their matches; Real Madrid can beat Barcelona to lift the Champions League trophy.

On that note, I think why Barcelona seems to be the favorite in the odds rating of the Champions League trophy because of how Barcelona has been on the better side of performing well in their matches than Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 17, 2025, 08:39:24 AM
Updated odds for the outright winner of the UCL (by DuelBits):

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/13/0ybF1.png)

What are your picks?

I'm not surprised to see Barcelona as the favourite, they've been doing really well so far and got matched up against Dortmund, which is considered the weakest team in the bunch.
But if I had to bet, I'd probably go with Inter, simply because of the attractive odds. In terms of skills, they might be slightly behind the higher-rated clubs like Barcelona or Real, but they are currently leading Serie A and made it to the quarter-finals so they must be doing something right.
A small-size bet on Borussia is also tempting. They made it to the final last season, so maybe they could do it again, but I can't quite imagine them eliminating Barcelona.
I am also interested in choosing Inter Milan. I think this team, even though the squad is quite simple, I like how the coach on this team has managed to maximize every potential player the team has. And several seasons ago Inter Milan also managed to reach the final. And I think Inter Milan could do it again. Because in terms of quality, Inter Milan is actually no less good than other strong teams. And what is clear is that betting on Inter Milan will also be very profitable if successful.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on March 17, 2025, 05:32:17 PM
I am also interested in choosing Inter Milan. I think this team, even though the squad is quite simple, I like how the coach on this team has managed to maximize every potential player the team has. And several seasons ago Inter Milan also managed to reach the final. And I think Inter Milan could do it again. Because in terms of quality, Inter Milan is actually no less good than other strong teams. And what is clear is that betting on Inter Milan will also be very profitable if successful.

It wouldn't be a stupid choice to bet on Inter
but let's always remember that bookmakers don't throw money away

It is no coincidence that among my parameters, the ones i use to understand how a match will go, i use the bookmakers odds, it is no coincidence that i would say

so in my opinion he won't win the Champions League
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 17, 2025, 07:21:58 PM
Real Madrid is the better team than Barcelona in lifting the Champions League trophy. Based on both team's comparison in matches won recently, Barcelona is the better team than Real Madrid in that angle. Maybe it will be when Barcelona's performance decreases that I can say Real Madrid can win the Champions League trophy. If nothing of that happens, Barcelona keeps being the formidable team, winning their matches; Real Madrid can beat Barcelona to lift the Champions League trophy.

On that note, I think why Barcelona seems to be the favorite in the odds rating of the Champions League trophy because of how Barcelona has been on the better side of performing well in their matches than Real Madrid.

It is a fact that Barcelona is in its prime, in its best moment, I would not yet sing victory, let's remember something, as Madrid climbs the UCL positions it becomes much stronger, Barcelona is playing excellent, they are a team that at any moment can tie you and leave you stranded with 1 or 2 goals winning, then that gives rise to saying that Barcelona is even the best in Europe, but the only way they have to prove it is by winning the UCL , they can achieve it, Madrid is not very well, they can take advantage of that.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on March 17, 2025, 07:35:48 PM
I am also interested in choosing Inter Milan. I think this team, even though the squad is quite simple, I like how the coach on this team has managed to maximize every potential player the team has. And several seasons ago Inter Milan also managed to reach the final. And I think Inter Milan could do it again. Because in terms of quality, Inter Milan is actually no less good than other strong teams. And what is clear is that betting on Inter Milan will also be very profitable if successful.

It wouldn't be a stupid choice to bet on Inter
but let's always remember that bookmakers don't throw money away

It is no coincidence that among my parameters, the ones i use to understand how a match will go, i use the bookmakers odds, it is no coincidence that i would say

so in my opinion he won't win the Champions League
Inter Milan is a good team but I don't see them winning the champions League this season because they don't have what it takes to win the champions League this season because if we are talking about the champions League we are talking about elite teams in Europe so the champions League is made up of great teams with potentials so inter Milan has not improved in their game performance to the point of winning the champions League, Let see what they will play against bayern munich first before we can begin to access what they are made of of
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 17, 2025, 08:03:30 PM

The penalty disallowed from Julian Alvarez is a huge controversial one, even after the replays I still couldn't see the infringement from him, perhaps there will some angles of videos that would show exactly what the VAR ruling was all about because neither the referee nor opposing the keeper saw it, and they were in really close proximity to the play.

There was no rigging. Microchips are installed on the ball.
The tech inside the ball is the one that made VAR go back and view it because it alerted to having been touched by two people, and that's why they had to review it. The semi-automatic offside also works with the sensors inside the ball. UEFA tech is top.

BTW. Since 2014, Real Madrid has eliminated Atletico Madrid in the Champions League in two finals (2014, 2016) and one round of 16 this season (2024-25)


I said controversial, I didn’t say it was rigged. I understand that rules are rules, and sometimes like in the case of this one, it was an extremely unfair situation. Perhaps, If the VAR hadn’t solely made the decision without consulting the referee it would have been a different outcome, I believe the very least that could have been done was to allow the referee use his personal discretion to interpret the play.

I guess this further just highlight the number of rules that the UEFA and other Footballing bodies new to revisit for adjustment.

Drama and controversy are a part of the football game. Cry, complain, come up with bogus stories, share their ridiculous mock drafts, share their unrealistic expectations or delirious over-confidence. Football drama never ends...
The emotional rollercoaster of football can be as high as a kite, filled with personal achievements. We can be at rock bottom, but we play this game because we love it. Every game is a learning experience. We keep going, moving forward, and giving our best. Peace
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on March 17, 2025, 09:54:03 PM
It is a fact that Barcelona is in its prime, in its best moment, I would not yet sing victory, let's remember something, as Madrid climbs the UCL positions it becomes much stronger, Barcelona is playing excellent, they are a team that at any moment can tie you and leave you stranded with 1 or 2 goals winning, then that gives rise to saying that Barcelona is even the best in Europe, but the only way they have to prove it is by winning the UCL , they can achieve it, Madrid is not very well, they can take advantage of that.

I watch how Yamal help Barcelona to finished Atletico yesterday in their match and I remembered how the Laporta was suffering to put the team together how the absence of Messi and Neymar traumatized them but it's good that the club went into their academy and brings in Yamal and despite the age, he is representing the club to the top.

It's only a matter of time, I think Barcelona can beat any club from there own side to win the Champions League, these guys are not that big but they are very dangerous in making moves you don't see coming from any angle and it works for them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 18, 2025, 09:14:17 PM
It is a fact that Barcelona is in its prime, in its best moment, I would not yet sing victory, let's remember something, as Madrid climbs the UCL positions it becomes much stronger, Barcelona is playing excellent, they are a team that at any moment can tie you and leave you stranded with 1 or 2 goals winning, then that gives rise to saying that Barcelona is even the best in Europe, but the only way they have to prove it is by winning the UCL , they can achieve it, Madrid is not very well, they can take advantage of that.

I watch how Yamal help Barcelona to finished Atletico yesterday in their match and I remembered how the Laporta was suffering to put the team together how the absence of Messi and Neymar traumatized them but it's good that the club went into their academy and brings in Yamal and despite the age, he is representing the club to the top.

It's only a matter of time, I think Barcelona can beat any club from there own side to win the Champions League, these guys are not that big but they are very dangerous in making moves you don't see coming from any angle and it works for them.

Barca is a beauty to watch and temporarily is leading in the league but there are still 10 games to go. Yamal, Rafinha, and Lewa are stars and Ferran is the super sub! Ferran Torres went from Barcelona benchwarmer to super sub-merchant.
But when it comes to the Champions League, Madrid is the king. They are the most successful club in the competition with a total of 14 titles.
So, it's been an interesting season in the Champions League until the end of the season...
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on March 18, 2025, 09:52:30 PM
I am also interested in choosing Inter Milan. I think this team, even though the squad is quite simple, I like how the coach on this team has managed to maximize every potential player the team has. And several seasons ago Inter Milan also managed to reach the final. And I think Inter Milan could do it again. Because in terms of quality, Inter Milan is actually no less good than other strong teams. And what is clear is that betting on Inter Milan will also be very profitable if successful.

It wouldn't be a stupid choice to bet on Inter
but let's always remember that bookmakers don't throw money away

It is no coincidence that among my parameters, the ones i use to understand how a match will go, i use the bookmakers odds, it is no coincidence that i would say

so in my opinion he won't win the Champions League
Let's see how much the bookies are offering odds for Inter Milan as their away team, it's curious but now still haven't checked the gambling market.

I think Inter Milan have a pretty capable squad they have a solid defense, but against Bayer Munich is not an easy thing maybe Inzhagi has a solution to qualify for the next phase.

Yeah it will be a little difficult for Inter Milan to win the Champion League as champions.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on March 18, 2025, 10:16:07 PM
Barca is a beauty to watch and temporarily is leading in the league but there are still 10 games to go. Yamal, Rafinha, and Lewa are stars and Ferran is the super sub! Ferran Torres went from Barcelona benchwarmer to super sub-merchant.
But when it comes to the Champions League, Madrid is the king. They are the most successful club in the competition with a total of 14 titles.
So, it's been an interesting season in the Champions League until the end of the season...

Barcelona has Messi brings the club to the peak of their time and ever since he left, everyone is expecting another Messi but the truth is that, it will be every difficult to get exactly person like Messi. I'm just happy to see this new form of Barcelona making something good for their self and the club, at least in the next 2 years, they should have more trophies.

Simeone can't accurately predict everything of the sports but Barcelona has more advantage of winning the Champions League than Real Madrid everyone is been hype about claiming to be the lucky ones, you need effort to win this league and Barcelona have it all.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 18, 2025, 10:17:09 PM
I watch how Yamal help Barcelona to finished Atletico yesterday in their match and I remembered how the Laporta was suffering to put the team together how the absence of Messi and Neymar traumatized them but it's good that the club went into their academy and brings in Yamal and despite the age, he is representing the club to the top.
Some years back, I was actually thinking about how Barcelona would survive when Messi and Neymar left Barcelona. I never knew Barcelona would raise no armies from their academy to return Barcelona to its former glory it is known before.

I am happy that Barcelona brought Yamal to their senior team. I am sure in years to come, he will be the world's best player if he continues being a fantastic player who will lead Barcelona to win different league trophies
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 18, 2025, 10:40:46 PM
I am also interested in choosing Inter Milan. I think this team, even though the squad is quite simple, I like how the coach on this team has managed to maximize every potential player the team has. And several seasons ago Inter Milan also managed to reach the final. And I think Inter Milan could do it again. Because in terms of quality, Inter Milan is actually no less good than other strong teams. And what is clear is that betting on Inter Milan will also be very profitable if successful.

It wouldn't be a stupid choice to bet on Inter
but let's always remember that bookmakers don't throw money away

It is no coincidence that among my parameters, the ones i use to understand how a match will go, i use the bookmakers odds, it is no coincidence that i would say

so in my opinion he won't win the Champions League
Yes, you are right about that. It's just that sometimes my love for Italian teams makes me emotional to always choose them and hope for more from them. Even though in fact I also think the same as what you said in the end. Sometimes we already know the opportunities we will have when choosing a team. And sometimes we know that we can lose. But because love makes us choose according to our emotions. Maybe I enjoy that.  ;D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 19, 2025, 12:38:25 AM

I watch how Yamal help Barcelona to finished Atletico yesterday in their match and I remembered how the Laporta was suffering to put the team together how the absence of Messi and Neymar traumatized them but it's good that the club went into their academy and brings in Yamal and despite the age, he is representing the club to the top.

It's only a matter of time, I think Barcelona can beat any club from there own side to win the Champions League, these guys are not that big but they are very dangerous in making moves you don't see coming from any angle and it works for them.

Barcelona are literally flying, that is something that can not be denied, with respect to what you say that they can beat any club including competitions like La Liga, UCL, Copa del Rey they can win them all, although I am not a Barcelona fan at all, one can realize that this team is very good, its individuals have made themselves known, however as I have said, Barcelona are at their prime right now, while their biggest contender, Real Madrid, are going through a very bad moment, they do not have a good defense and have many weaknesses, and it is a good moment for Barcelona to take advantage of Winning.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 19, 2025, 02:32:58 PM
I watch how Yamal help Barcelona to finished Atletico yesterday in their match and I remembered how the Laporta was suffering to put the team together how the absence of Messi and Neymar traumatized them but it's good that the club went into their academy and brings in Yamal and despite the age, he is representing the club to the top.
Some years back, I was actually thinking about how Barcelona would survive when Messi and Neymar left Barcelona. I never knew Barcelona would raise no armies from their academy to return Barcelona to its former glory it is known before.

I am happy that Barcelona brought Yamal to their senior team. I am sure in years to come, he will be the world's best player if he continues being a fantastic player who will lead Barcelona to win different league trophies
Barcelona are lucky enough because they can always produce talented young players and that contributes a lot to the team. Their young players are future assets that they must utilize well.

I just hope they don't do something that makes them have to sell their valuable players. Because in the past, one of the reasons why they had to sell Messi was because they were constrained by finances.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 19, 2025, 04:06:30 PM
Barca is a beauty to watch and temporarily is leading in the league but there are still 10 games to go. Yamal, Rafinha, and Lewa are stars and Ferran is the super sub! Ferran Torres went from Barcelona benchwarmer to super sub-merchant.
But when it comes to the Champions League, Madrid is the king. They are the most successful club in the competition with a total of 14 titles.
So, it's been an interesting season in the Champions League until the end of the season...

Barcelona has Messi brings the club to the peak of their time and ever since he left, everyone is expecting another Messi but the truth is that, it will be every difficult to get exactly person like Messi. I'm just happy to see this new form of Barcelona making something good for their self and the club, at least in the next 2 years, they should have more trophies.

Simeone can't accurately predict everything of the sports but Barcelona has more advantage of winning the Champions League than Real Madrid everyone is been hype about claiming to be the lucky ones, you need effort to win this league and Barcelona have it all.

The relentless drive of Barca players is inspiring. Keep pushing through fatigue, always striving for excellence. It's a testament to the passion that fuels their journey. Football is love...
And Szczesny is the luckiest footballer in history, having spent his entire career at Arsenal and Juventus without achieving anything, only to come out from retirement and have the chance to win quadruple with Barcelona. Love to see his energy.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 19, 2025, 08:04:39 PM
Barcelona are literally flying, that is something that can not be denied, with respect to what you say that they can beat any club including competitions like La Liga, UCL, Copa del Rey they can win them all, although I am not a Barcelona fan at all, one can realize that this team is very good, its individuals have made themselves known, however as I have said, Barcelona are at their prime right now, while their biggest contender, Real Madrid, are going through a very bad moment, they do not have a good defense and have many weaknesses, and it is a good moment for Barcelona to take advantage of Winning.
Barcelona is indeed having a good time at the moment in the UCL in particular. Because until now Barcelona has always managed to win very well. But in the next match against Dortmund maybe it won't be easy. But I still believe Barcelona will win. And yes, Barcelona must take advantage of the advantages they have this season to be able to go further in the UCL. And it's been a very long time since we saw Barcelona reach the UCL final. And it would be great if Barcelona succeeded this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 19, 2025, 09:41:19 PM

Barca is a beauty to watch and temporarily is leading in the league but there are still 10 games to go. Yamal, Rafinha, and Lewa are stars and Ferran is the super sub! Ferran Torres went from Barcelona benchwarmer to super sub-merchant.
But when it comes to the Champions League, Madrid is the king. They are the most successful club in the competition with a total of 14 titles.
So, it's been an interesting season in the Champions League until the end of the season...

Without a doubt, things are very exciting in the UCL and La Liga. Despite the fact that Barcelona is doing well, I like it because they're Competing with everything they have, and that's something that's practically very good. Madrid's biggest weakness is their defense, and this is what has really become one of the things that has held them back the most. They have a good midfield and a good attack. However, in La Liga, I haven't liked some of the refereeing; I think it's very biased.

In a way , these competitions are for anyone; whoever does the best will win and take this.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on March 19, 2025, 10:12:47 PM
I am happy that Barcelona brought Yamal to their senior team. I am sure in years to come, he will be the world's best player if he continues being a fantastic player who will lead Barcelona to win different league trophies
Imagine the age of 17 knows already playing at the senior level but his abilities have exceeded other players because Barcelona does not want Yamal to leave with other offers, but the news is that his contract will soon be extended.
In the champions league it is very important to be the main pillar in helping the attack because Yamal's dribbling is not in doubt.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on March 19, 2025, 11:14:25 PM
I am happy that Barcelona brought Yamal to their senior team. I am sure in years to come, he will be the world's best player if he continues being a fantastic player who will lead Barcelona to win different league trophies
Imagine the age of 17 knows already playing at the senior level but his abilities have exceeded other players because Barcelona does not want Yamal to leave with other offers, but the news is that his contract will soon be extended.
In the champions league it is very important to be the main pillar in helping the attack because Yamal's dribbling is not in doubt.

Lamine Yamal have been revelational asset for Barcelona and it shows that what Barcelona should have done all this while when they were looking for replacements for players like Neymar, which single handedly cause a series of transfers and events that eventually led to Barcelona’s financial crises and almost rendered bankrupt, they should have turned inward to the youth system, I understand that you don’t come across a player like Yamal everyday but it is worth the try, with nothing to lose.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on March 19, 2025, 11:19:05 PM
Inter Milan is a good team but I don't see them winning the champions League this season because they don't have what it takes to win the champions League this season because if we are talking about the champions League we are talking about elite teams in Europe so the champions League is made up of great teams with potentials so inter Milan has not improved in their game performance to the point of winning the champions League, Let see what they will play against bayern munich first before we can begin to access what they are made of of
Inter Milan has a good squad although they are not in their best form during this season. But I think Inter Milan still can reach the semi-final round. Inter Milan has a stronger defense if we compare with Bayern Munich team. I just doubt if Inter Milan will face Barcelona in the semi-final. Barcelona is stronger, they have very promising players. Barcelona will be the favorite team if Inter Milan vs Barcelona in the semi-final. But in the final, I think it will be El Clasico (Real Madrid vs Barcelona).

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on March 19, 2025, 11:21:30 PM
I am happy that Barcelona brought Yamal to their senior team. I am sure in years to come, he will be the world's best player if he continues being a fantastic player who will lead Barcelona to win different league trophies
Imagine the age of 17 knows already playing at the senior level but his abilities have exceeded other players because Barcelona does not want Yamal to leave with other offers, but the news is that his contract will soon be extended.
In the champions league it is very important to be the main pillar in helping the attack because Yamal's dribbling is not in doubt.

Lamine Yamal have been revelational asset for Barcelona and it shows that what Barcelona should have done all this while when they were looking for replacements for players like Neymar, which single handedly cause a series of transfers and events that eventually led to Barcelona’s financial crises and almost rendered bankrupt, they should have turned inward to the youth system, I understand that you don’t come across a player like Yamal everyday but it is worth the try, with nothing to lose.
According to transfermarkt his market value is 180M at the age of 17.
Many Neymar purchases have failed including Al Hilal who has signed a large amount.
But fortunately, Barcelona is lucky to have talented young players from its academy, because there are rarely players with a high enough price.
It looks like Barcelona will activate a crazy clause for Yamal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on March 19, 2025, 11:24:24 PM
Inter Milan has a stronger defense if we compare with Bayern Munich team.


The attacks of both teams are very good, and so the winner of this game will come down to the team that is able to defend well and withstand the pressure better than what the other team throws at them.

It will be two legs of exciting football.  :D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on March 20, 2025, 04:01:06 AM
Inter Milan has a stronger defense if we compare with Bayern Munich team.


The attacks of both teams are very good, and so the winner of this game will come down to the team that is able to defend well and withstand the pressure better than what the other team throws at them.

It will be two legs of exciting football.  :D

I would say Inter Milan does have a chance in this tie, and that would be because of good they can be defensively, while not terrible in attack too, and Bayern Munich this season have not been as dominating as they were some season ago, we all saw how they were floored by Barcelona in the league phase stage, although it's a different ball game now altogether since it's a 2 legged game, and both teams will sure have their own chances of making it count.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on March 20, 2025, 02:17:53 PM
Inter Milan has a stronger defense if we compare with Bayern Munich team.


The attacks of both teams are very good, and so the winner of this game will come down to the team that is able to defend well and withstand the pressure better than what the other team throws at them.

It will be two legs of exciting football.  :D
If we talk about defense, we know that Serie A is a team with a good defense strategy compared to other leagues in my opinion. However, that also cannot be a benchmark that they will be able to do that.

The fact is that it has been a long time since the Serie A team could compete in the Champions League like in the past, even their best achievement in the last few seasons was only to get to the final, and in the final they couldn't do much.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on March 20, 2025, 03:06:20 PM
Inter Milan has a stronger defense if we compare with Bayern Munich team.


The attacks of both teams are very good, and so the winner of this game will come down to the team that is able to defend well and withstand the pressure better than what the other team throws at them.

It will be two legs of exciting football.  :D

It will certainly be a very interesting match, as we move towards the end the matches become more beautiful and hard-fought
in fact tickets tend to cost a lot and sponsors also pay a lot to show the matches
I just hope they don't close down defensively and go to penalties
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on March 20, 2025, 07:21:45 PM
Inter Milan has a stronger defense if we compare with Bayern Munich team.


The attacks of both teams are very good, and so the winner of this game will come down to the team that is able to defend well and withstand the pressure better than what the other team throws at them.

It will be two legs of exciting football.  :D
If we talk about defense, we know that Serie A is a team with a good defense strategy compared to other leagues in my opinion. However, that also cannot be a benchmark that they will be able to do that.

The fact is that it has been a long time since the Serie A team could compete in the Champions League like in the past, even their best achievement in the last few seasons was only to get to the final, and in the final they couldn't do much.
I don't think that defense strategy is still a style of football that is still relevant in present day football it is  an outdated  style of football so if inter Milan is going to come out victorious in this game they need to be more on the offensive and not defense, because playing against a team like bayern munich that is an attacking minded team defense is not an option to consider because it's not going to work
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 20, 2025, 07:43:26 PM
I am happy that Barcelona brought Yamal to their senior team. I am sure in years to come, he will be the world's best player if he continues being a fantastic player who will lead Barcelona to win different league trophies
Imagine the age of 17 knows already playing at the senior level but his abilities have exceeded other players because Barcelona does not want Yamal to leave with other offers, but the news is that his contract will soon be extended.
In the champions league it is very important to be the main pillar in helping the attack because Yamal's dribbling is not in doubt.
Yamal is truly a genuine wonder boy in the current era of football. I like how Yamal makes assists and places the ball in empty areas that are easy for his friends to reach in front of the opponent's goal. He is not only good at kicking the ball and running. He is also good at analyzing situations in the field. His instinct for providing passes in good areas reminds me of Cristiano Ronaldo when Cristiano Ronaldo was still not a striker. I think Yamal will be the next legendary football star.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 20, 2025, 09:23:03 PM

The fact is that it has been a long time since the Serie A team could compete in the Champions League like in the past, even their best achievement in the last few seasons was only to get to the final, and in the final they couldn't do much.

Yep. Blame Milan, Juventus, and Atalanta or Bologna for this season.
Juventus was knocked out by PSV Eindhoven, Milan was knocked out by Feyenoord, and Atalanta was surprisingly knocked out by Club Brugge.Bologna? They're even worse... 28th on the Champions League table.
Even Serie A will not get an extra Champions League spot next season, even if Inter wins the Champions League, Lazio wins the Europa League and Fiorentina wins the Conference League.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 20, 2025, 10:57:29 PM
I am happy that Barcelona brought Yamal to their senior team. I am sure in years to come, he will be the world's best player if he continues being a fantastic player who will lead Barcelona to win different league trophies
Imagine the age of 17 knows already playing at the senior level but his abilities have exceeded other players because Barcelona does not want Yamal to leave with other offers, but the news is that his contract will soon be extended.
In the champions league it is very important to be the main pillar in helping the attack because Yamal's dribbling is not in doubt.
Because of Yamal contract in Barcelona will soon end, clubs are interested in signing in Yamal. Even PSG has promised to give Yamal huge payments like the one Mbappe did when he was in PSG if he agrees to join them. PSG is waiting for Yamal to make his decision known on whether to join PSG with huge pay or continue his stay with Barcelona
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on March 20, 2025, 11:43:42 PM
Because of Yamal contract in Barcelona will soon end, clubs are interested in signing in Yamal. Even PSG has promised to give Yamal huge payments like the one Mbappe did when he was in PSG if he agrees to join them. PSG is waiting for Yamal to make his decision known on whether to join PSG with huge pay or continue his stay with Barcelona
If it is in the intention of Lamal to win the ballon dor, I think he has the best bet in Barcelona than he will in PSG. Barcelona just needs to settle him with a better contract than what he already has and make sure that they cement his place in Barcelona because of his potential to become the next legendary player of Barcelona who would help them win as many trophies as they deserve. It is always a problem to any defender who is giving the job to man mark him.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on March 21, 2025, 02:25:28 PM
If we talk about defense, we know that Serie A is a team with a good defense strategy compared to other leagues in my opinion. However, that also cannot be a benchmark that they will be able to do that.

The fact is that it has been a long time since the Serie A team could compete in the Champions League like in the past, even their best achievement in the last few seasons was only to get to the final, and in the final they couldn't do much.
I don't think that defense strategy is still a style of football that is still relevant in present day football it is  an outdated  style of football so if inter Milan is going to come out victorious in this game they need to be more on the offensive and not defense, because playing against a team like bayern munich that is an attacking minded team defense is not an option to consider because it's not going to work
Maybe this is something that will cause differences of opinion, like you said defensive play is no longer a relevant strategy, but others say something different. It just depends on the coach's strategy in my opinion, because every coach also has a different character.

For example, Ancelotty is considered an uncreative coach because he only relies on pragmatic football, but let's see what he can achieve during his coaching career? Pep Guardiola has a very different approach from Ancelotty, he also managed to achieve success in his career.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on March 21, 2025, 03:13:06 PM
Yep. Blame Milan, Juventus, and Atalanta or Bologna for this season.
Juventus was knocked out by PSV Eindhoven, Milan was knocked out by Feyenoord, and Atalanta was surprisingly knocked out by Club Brugge.Bologna? They're even worse... 28th on the Champions League table.
Even Serie A will not get an extra Champions League spot next season, even if Inter wins the Champions League, Lazio wins the Europa League and Fiorentina wins the Conference League.

Unfortunately, many factors occurred at the same time: these teams had lower performances due to a physiological decline caused by major changes, see also Roma. Secondly, it happened that on average the Italian championship and other competitions became more difficult
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 21, 2025, 05:26:30 PM

Barcelona is indeed having a good time at the moment in the UCL in particular. Because until now Barcelona has always managed to win very well. But in the next match against Dortmund maybe it won't be easy. But I still believe Barcelona will win. And yes, Barcelona must take advantage of the advantages they have this season to be able to go further in the UCL. And it's been a very long time since we saw Barcelona reach the UCL final. And it would be great if Barcelona succeeded this season.

Dortmund is not an easy team, the Germans grow a lot when it comes to playing in a UCL, in fact for me Sortmund has not done very well in the Bundesliga but they can make a difference in this UCL, so given these things you can sense that they are going to go out and leave absolutely everything on the field, they will not hold back anything, that is how they are going to go out and play and one of the things they have in Dortmund is their physical condition, those Germans can run 90min + 30min more as if it were nothing, their physical condition is very good, but Barcelona is an experienced team and well I imagine they must already have their good form, that game will be interesting.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 21, 2025, 05:30:53 PM

Barcelona is indeed having a good time at the moment in the UCL in particular. Because until now Barcelona has always managed to win very well. But in the next match against Dortmund maybe it won't be easy. But I still believe Barcelona will win. And yes, Barcelona must take advantage of the advantages they have this season to be able to go further in the UCL. And it's been a very long time since we saw Barcelona reach the UCL final. And it would be great if Barcelona succeeded this season.

Dortmund is not an easy team, the Germans grow a lot when it comes to playing in a UCL, in fact for me Sortmund has not done very well in the Bundesliga but they can make a difference in this UCL, so given these things you can sense that they are going to go out and leave absolutely everything on the field, they will not hold back anything, that is how they are going to go out and play and one of the things they have in Dortmund is their physical condition, those Germans can run 90min + 30min more as if it were nothing, their physical condition is very good, but Barcelona is an experienced team and well I imagine they must already have their good form, that game will be interesting.
Last season Dortmund also proved who they really are in the UCL. So, Dortmund in the UCL is different from Dortmund in the Bundeslita. I don't know how but Dortmund can play better in the UCL. So Barcelona really has to be extra careful when facing Dortmund. Because if not, then Dortmund might actually win. Although I didn't expect that. Because I still hope that Barcelona will go far this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on March 21, 2025, 08:13:59 PM
Many teams have this sort of transformation, for example in past years Milan won very little in the Italian Serie A championship and won many Champions Cups, in fact it is the Italian team that has the most Champions Cups. They are different behaviors or rather they are different objectives that are given to the teams. If a team focuses a lot on the Champions League it means that they will give up on the championship a little more, it's obvious, they can't do everything, it takes too large a roster of players to be able to do everything well.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 21, 2025, 08:53:28 PM

Barcelona is indeed having a good time at the moment in the UCL in particular. Because until now Barcelona has always managed to win very well. But in the next match against Dortmund maybe it won't be easy. But I still believe Barcelona will win. And yes, Barcelona must take advantage of the advantages they have this season to be able to go further in the UCL. And it's been a very long time since we saw Barcelona reach the UCL final. And it would be great if Barcelona succeeded this season.

Dortmund is not an easy team, the Germans grow a lot when it comes to playing in a UCL, in fact for me Sortmund has not done very well in the Bundesliga but they can make a difference in this UCL, so given these things you can sense that they are going to go out and leave absolutely everything on the field, they will not hold back anything, that is how they are going to go out and play and one of the things they have in Dortmund is their physical condition, those Germans can run 90min + 30min more as if it were nothing, their physical condition is very good, but Barcelona is an experienced team and well I imagine they must already have their good form, that game will be interesting.
Last season Dortmund also proved who they really are in the UCL. So, Dortmund in the UCL is different from Dortmund in the Bundeslita. I don't know how but Dortmund can play better in the UCL. So Barcelona really has to be extra careful when facing Dortmund. Because if not, then Dortmund might actually win. Although I didn't expect that. Because I still hope that Barcelona will go far this season.

I hope the quarter-final between Borussia Dortmund and Barcelona will be an incredible show, with plenty of goals.
Lewandowski's incredible record against his former club adds extra spice to this clash. Robert Lewandowski scored 103 goals in 187 games as a Dortmund player, then left the club and scored 27 goals in 27 games against them.
And I think he has scored more goals against them than any other opponents he has faced.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on March 21, 2025, 09:39:47 PM
I hope the quarter-final between Borussia Dortmund and Barcelona will be an incredible show, with plenty of goals.
Lewandowski's incredible record against his former club adds extra spice to this clash. Robert Lewandowski scored 103 goals in 187 games as a Dortmund player, then left the club and scored 27 goals in 27 games against them.
And I think he has scored more goals against them than any other opponents he has faced.

Lewandowski doesn't get enough credit like other players. I bet if he comes through Premier League clubs, he will be getting all the things he deserves  it then when I check other players that came from Dortmund and are doing well now, it's not like they are doing better than I'm and hey get all the shout out like they are winning everything.

Dortmund might  want to bring Barcelona to their knees but the current state of Barcelona isn't something to be joke about, they are going to rear down Dortmund and go to the next level without a single doubt.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on March 21, 2025, 09:53:38 PM
Lewandowski doesn't get enough credit like other players. I bet if he comes through Premier League clubs, he will be getting all the things he deserves  it then when I check other players that came from Dortmund and are doing well now, it's not like they are doing better than I'm and hey get all the shout out like they are winning everything.

Lewandowski as a player has won it all at club level, he's literally won every single thing a player could have dreamt of achieving with their clubs, and he didn't underperform either it terms of individual awards, he's won multiple goalscoring records, FIFA and UEFA men's player of the year amongst others. However, I don't believe there is anything left for him at the premier league, he has past that stage in his career, he's 36 years of age, to be 37 in a few months, I don't see him playing in any other European big club once he's done at Barcelona.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on March 21, 2025, 10:54:04 PM
Arsenal are again victims of the international break with another injury to Ricardo Caliofori. This is not the exact kind of news that we want to be hearing right now with the Champions League game against Real Madrid very close. Ricardo Caliofori may not be Arteta's first choice in defense for left back, but there is doubt about his attacking potentials and how much of an option he is for Arteta.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 22, 2025, 02:38:34 PM
Lewandowski doesn't get enough credit like other players. I bet if he comes through Premier League clubs, he will be getting all the things he deserves  it then when I check other players that came from Dortmund and are doing well now, it's not like they are doing better than I'm and hey get all the shout out like they are winning everything.

Lewandowski as a player has won it all at club level, he's literally won every single thing a player could have dreamt of achieving with their clubs, and he didn't underperform either it terms of individual awards, he's won multiple goalscoring records, FIFA and UEFA men's player of the year amongst others. However, I don't believe there is anything left for him at the premier league, he has past that stage in his career, he's 36 years of age, to be 37 in a few months, I don't see him playing in any other European big club once he's done at Barcelona.
It seems like you have a very good observation about this player, indeed as a player he is actually a very good player, but he is not talked about much compared to other players, for some reason, or maybe we just don't pay much attention to the talk about him.

If I were to compare, maybe Harry Kane is the right comparison for Lewandowski, although we might agree that what makes it like that is because Harry Kane has never won a title.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 22, 2025, 07:36:57 PM
I hope the quarter-final between Borussia Dortmund and Barcelona will be an incredible show, with plenty of goals.
Lewandowski's incredible record against his former club adds extra spice to this clash. Robert Lewandowski scored 103 goals in 187 games as a Dortmund player, then left the club and scored 27 goals in 27 games against them.
And I think he has scored more goals against them than any other opponents he has faced.

Lewandowski doesn't get enough credit like other players. I bet if he comes through Premier League clubs, he will be getting all the things he deserves  it then when I check other players that came from Dortmund and are doing well now, it's not like they are doing better than I'm and hey get all the shout out like they are winning everything.

Dortmund might  want to bring Barcelona to their knees but the current state of Barcelona isn't something to be joke about, they are going to rear down Dortmund and go to the next level without a single doubt.

Yep. sad but true... Lewandowski has won 2x The Best FIFA Men’s Player and he should have won at least 1x Ballon d'Or. What a striker he was just a pure goal machine.
France Football should be ashamed that they robbed him of at least one Ballon d'Or.

I'm not underestimating any team in the Champions League, but if Barca wins...It doesn't surprise me :) They’re going to a final, minimum.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on March 22, 2025, 11:43:42 PM
If I were to compare, maybe Harry Kane is the right comparison for Lewandowski, although we might agree that what makes it like that is because Harry Kane has never won a title.
I was able to watch Lewandoski and Harry Kane, and if I were to be choosing between the two of them, Harry Kane would be my pick. Harry Kane has long been criticized for not having any trophies, and I hope it can change in this season. Will Bayern be able to win the Champions League? I doubt.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 23, 2025, 11:49:02 AM
If I were to compare, maybe Harry Kane is the right comparison for Lewandowski, although we might agree that what makes it like that is because Harry Kane has never won a title.
I was able to watch Lewandoski and Harry Kane, and if I were to be choosing between the two of them, Harry Kane would be my pick. Harry Kane has long been criticized for not having any trophies, and I hope it can change in this season. Will Bayern be able to win the Champions League? I doubt.

Harry is a good player, If he had trophies he’d be considered the best, he’s that good.
I'm tired of pretending that not winning trophies invalidates a player from being great. Greatness is greatness and the talent of a player has nothing to do with team accolades, teams win trophies, not individuals.
But Lewandowski is already 36 years old, five years older than Kane. It's crazy to put these numbers. :)
And I miss Lewa in certain positions. He was available there in the box to receive any kinda balls. But with Kane, he's not available there.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 23, 2025, 12:38:17 PM
If I were to compare, maybe Harry Kane is the right comparison for Lewandowski, although we might agree that what makes it like that is because Harry Kane has never won a title.
I was able to watch Lewandoski and Harry Kane, and if I were to be choosing between the two of them, Harry Kane would be my pick. Harry Kane has long been criticized for not having any trophies, and I hope it can change in this season. Will Bayern be able to win the Champions League? I doubt.

Harry is a good player, If he had trophies he’d be considered the best, he’s that good.
I'm tired of pretending that not winning trophies invalidates a player from being great. Greatness is greatness and the talent of a player has nothing to do with team accolades, teams win trophies, not individuals.
But Lewandowski is already 36 years old, five years older than Kane. It's crazy to put these numbers. :)
And I miss Lewa in certain positions. He was available there in the box to receive any kinda balls. But with Kane, he's not available there.
There is no doubt that what Harry Kane lacks is just because he doesn't have a trophy. In fact, in terms of appearance, a trophy is something he really deserves. But the road is not that smooth so he can't get it.

He was even considered a curse when Bayern Munich failed to win the title for the first time after more than a decade he always got it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on March 23, 2025, 09:57:05 PM
If I were to compare, maybe Harry Kane is the right comparison for Lewandowski, although we might agree that what makes it like that is because Harry Kane has never won a title.
I was able to watch Lewandoski and Harry Kane, and if I were to be choosing between the two of them, Harry Kane would be my pick. Harry Kane has long been criticized for not having any trophies, and I hope it can change in this season. Will Bayern be able to win the Champions League? I doubt.

Harry is a good player, If he had trophies he’d be considered the best, he’s that good.
I'm tired of pretending that not winning trophies invalidates a player from being great. Greatness is greatness and the talent of a player has nothing to do with team accolades, teams win trophies, not individuals.
But Lewandowski is already 36 years old, five years older than Kane. It's crazy to put these numbers. :)
And I miss Lewa in certain positions. He was available there in the box to receive any kinda balls. But with Kane, he's not available there.
There is no doubt that what Harry Kane lacks is just because he doesn't have a trophy. In fact, in terms of appearance, a trophy is something he really deserves. But the road is not that smooth so he can't get it.

He was even considered a curse when Bayern Munich failed to win the title for the first time after more than a decade he always got it.
That curse has been broken if there ever was. Bayern is six points ahead of Leverkusen and I believe that they will be able to maintain the first position till the end. Kane will be a happy man to finally have a trophy in his hands at the end of this season. More trophies will start coming his way if he gets the first one.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on March 23, 2025, 10:39:09 PM
If I were to compare, maybe Harry Kane is the right comparison for Lewandowski, although we might agree that what makes it like that is because Harry Kane has never won a title.
I was able to watch Lewandoski and Harry Kane, and if I were to be choosing between the two of them, Harry Kane would be my pick. Harry Kane has long been criticized for not having any trophies, and I hope it can change in this season. Will Bayern be able to win the Champions League? I doubt.

Harry is a good player, If he had trophies he’d be considered the best, he’s that good.
I'm tired of pretending that not winning trophies invalidates a player from being great. Greatness is greatness and the talent of a player has nothing to do with team accolades, teams win trophies, not individuals.
But Lewandowski is already 36 years old, five years older than Kane. It's crazy to put these numbers. :)
And I miss Lewa in certain positions. He was available there in the box to receive any kinda balls. But with Kane, he's not available there.
Harry Kane is a great player by all standards and how successful a player is should not be measured with the numbers of trophies that a player won with his team while playing but the fact is that when it comes to football you can't remove trophies from football because when great players are been mentioned it is with the numbers of trophies and accolades that a player has won while playing, because players left like Jay Jay okocha was one of the greatest and best players that football has ever had but due to the fact that he was not able to win any major trophy through out his playing carrier with his game sides he is not the best players that fifa has because he did not even win the best player in Africa so kane had to win a trophy if he is to be remembered by history in football
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: armanda90 on March 23, 2025, 11:23:50 PM
There is no doubt that what Harry Kane lacks is just because he doesn't have a trophy. In fact, in terms of appearance, a trophy is something he really deserves. But the road is not that smooth so he can't get it.

He was even considered a curse when Bayern Munich failed to win the title for the first time after more than a decade he always got it.
In Champion League, Bayern Munich can't guarantee for winning trophy this season because have to face many difficult opponent team before qualifying to final phase. But have good moment for Bayern and Harry Kane win his first trophy at domestic league after leading 6 points awhile from Leverkusen.
Bayern Munich have to face Inter Milan at quarter final round and possibility will face difficult team Barcelona if both team qualify to semifinal round, still difficulty for Bayern Munich for winning Champion League tittle in this season but have chance with domestic league trophy.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pieppiep on March 24, 2025, 09:51:39 AM
There is no doubt that what Harry Kane lacks is just because he doesn't have a trophy. In fact, in terms of appearance, a trophy is something he really deserves. But the road is not that smooth so he can't get it.

He was even considered a curse when Bayern Munich failed to win the title for the first time after more than a decade he always got it.
In Champion League, Bayern Munich can't guarantee for winning trophy this season because have to face many difficult opponent team before qualifying to final phase. But have good moment for Bayern and Harry Kane win his first trophy at domestic league after leading 6 points awhile from Leverkusen.
Bayern Munich have to face Inter Milan at quarter final round and possibility will face difficult team Barcelona if both team qualify to semifinal round, still difficulty for Bayern Munich for winning Champion League tittle in this season but have chance with domestic league trophy.
Yes, Bayern Munich are still one of the league’s power houses and they have the potential of advancing to the next stage this season. It has dedicated players who can perform well during key encounters with teams of different leagues. In my opinion the pert competition is very competitive but Bayern have years of experience by facing hardy cram pressure in the champions league. Harry Kane has won the domestic league trophy, this will be a plus to the whole team. It may not have been easier but the Bayern has proven itself at the right moment of high importance. They remain a potential threat to any team if they persist to play such a match to the best of their capability.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 24, 2025, 09:59:32 AM

Barcelona is indeed having a good time at the moment in the UCL in particular. Because until now Barcelona has always managed to win very well. But in the next match against Dortmund maybe it won't be easy. But I still believe Barcelona will win. And yes, Barcelona must take advantage of the advantages they have this season to be able to go further in the UCL. And it's been a very long time since we saw Barcelona reach the UCL final. And it would be great if Barcelona succeeded this season.

Dortmund is not an easy team, the Germans grow a lot when it comes to playing in a UCL, in fact for me Sortmund has not done very well in the Bundesliga but they can make a difference in this UCL, so given these things you can sense that they are going to go out and leave absolutely everything on the field, they will not hold back anything, that is how they are going to go out and play and one of the things they have in Dortmund is their physical condition, those Germans can run 90min + 30min more as if it were nothing, their physical condition is very good, but Barcelona is an experienced team and well I imagine they must already have their good form, that game will be interesting.
Last season Dortmund also proved who they really are in the UCL. So, Dortmund in the UCL is different from Dortmund in the Bundeslita. I don't know how but Dortmund can play better in the UCL. So Barcelona really has to be extra careful when facing Dortmund. Because if not, then Dortmund might actually win. Although I didn't expect that. Because I still hope that Barcelona will go far this season.

I hope the quarter-final between Borussia Dortmund and Barcelona will be an incredible show, with plenty of goals.
Lewandowski's incredible record against his former club adds extra spice to this clash. Robert Lewandowski scored 103 goals in 187 games as a Dortmund player, then left the club and scored 27 goals in 27 games against them.
And I think he has scored more goals against them than any other opponents he has faced.
If Dortmund also uses an offensive strategy in the match against Barcelona then yes, many goals will not be avoided in my opinion. Both Barcelona and Dortmund will definitely succeed in scoring goals. It just depends on how each team's defense and attack line can be better than its opponent. But Dortmund looks like they will be careful in the match against Barcelona. It could be that they become more defensive than making an attacking strategy. But I don't know. I also hope that the match will be aggressive and not boring.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 24, 2025, 06:38:28 PM
Harry Kane is a great player by all standards and how successful a player is should not be measured with the numbers of trophies that a player won with his team while playing but the fact is that when it comes to football you can't remove trophies from football because when great players are been mentioned it is with the numbers of trophies and accolades that a player has won while playing, because players left like Jay Jay okocha was one of the greatest and best players that football has ever had but due to the fact that he was not able to win any major trophy through out his playing carrier with his game sides he is not the best players that fifa has because he did not even win the best player in Africa so kane had to win a trophy if he is to be remembered by history in football

Fair enough :)  I think Kane is in the right team now. Kompany shaped him better. Bayern needs Kane as much as Kane needs Bayern. A record must be broken.
Last season Tuchel messed up but the one who got bullied was Harry Kane even though during his first season in the Bundesliga, Kane's statistics were impressive... Kane carried the team but was still blamed :(
Hopefully this season the story will be different.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 24, 2025, 07:42:19 PM
There is no doubt that what Harry Kane lacks is just because he doesn't have a trophy. In fact, in terms of appearance, a trophy is something he really deserves. But the road is not that smooth so he can't get it.

He was even considered a curse when Bayern Munich failed to win the title for the first time after more than a decade he always got it.
In Champion League, Bayern Munich can't guarantee for winning trophy this season because have to face many difficult opponent team before qualifying to final phase. But have good moment for Bayern and Harry Kane win his first trophy at domestic league after leading 6 points awhile from Leverkusen.
Bayern Munich have to face Inter Milan at quarter final round and possibility will face difficult team Barcelona if both team qualify to semifinal round, still difficulty for Bayern Munich for winning Champion League tittle in this season but have chance with domestic league trophy.
Their journey in the Champions League is certainly not easier than what they face in the domestic league. In the Champions League, the opponents they will face are stronger than what they get in the Bundesliga.

In addition, in the Champions League their journey will also be determined by just 2 matches, which will determine whether they will go further or not. While in the domestic league, getting a defeat still gives them many opportunities.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 24, 2025, 08:12:39 PM
There is no doubt that what Harry Kane lacks is just because he doesn't have a trophy. In fact, in terms of appearance, a trophy is something he really deserves. But the road is not that smooth so he can't get it.

He was even considered a curse when Bayern Munich failed to win the title for the first time after more than a decade he always got it.
If it is possible for a single player to win a trophy for his team, Harry Kane would have made it possible for the clubs he has been in. A club winning a trophy is a collective effort of the players, not what a single can do.

It is sad that Harry Kane hasn't won a trophy yet. I believe he will do that before the end of his career. Maybe it may be from his countryside or club side(Bayern Munich)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 24, 2025, 08:47:17 PM

Last season Dortmund also proved who they really are in the UCL. So, Dortmund in the UCL is different from Dortmund in the Bundeslita. I don't know how but Dortmund can play better in the UCL. So Barcelona really has to be extra careful when facing Dortmund. Because if not, then Dortmund might actually win. Although I didn't expect that. Because I still hope that Barcelona will go far this season.

Be fully confident that Barcelona will go far. The team is on the right track, all of its players understand each other very well, On the other hand, things tend to be very different when they play against other styles of football, The Germans always play very well in the UCL, and Dortmund is a team that springs surprises. I think Dortmund will have to do everything possible to make things go well for them and not let themselves be surprised.

This time I want to place bets, I imagine everything will be in Barcelona's favor, so it will be more in that direction Betting on Dortmund could win a lot if they win.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on March 24, 2025, 08:51:14 PM
There is no doubt that what Harry Kane lacks is just because he doesn't have a trophy. In fact, in terms of appearance, a trophy is something he really deserves. But the road is not that smooth so he can't get it.

He was even considered a curse when Bayern Munich failed to win the title for the first time after more than a decade he always got it.
If it is possible for a single player to win a trophy for his team, Harry Kane would have made it possible for the clubs he has been in. A club winning a trophy is a collective effort of the players, not what a single can do.

It is sad that Harry Kane hasn't won a trophy yet. I believe he will do that before the end of his career. Maybe it may be from his countryside or club side(Bayern Munich)
It's true a single tree standing somewhere can't be considered a forest hardy Kane has not been lucky and you have to blame him too because he allowed emotions about loving Tottenham to have not left the club since because a player like Kane should have been playing in a club that is competing in the champions League every season, Tottenham was not the right club for Kane he must have left the club earlier than this but with the way things are going Kane is going to break the chain of not winning a trophy because bayern munich is in a good position to win the bundesliga title this season
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 24, 2025, 11:13:00 PM

If Dortmund also uses an offensive strategy in the match against Barcelona then yes, many goals will not be avoided in my opinion. Both Barcelona and Dortmund will definitely succeed in scoring goals. It just depends on how each team's defense and attack line can be better than its opponent. But Dortmund looks like they will be careful in the match against Barcelona. It could be that they become more defensive than making an attacking strategy. But I don't know. I also hope that the match will be aggressive and not boring.

That's what I want to see, a Dortmund that doesn't stop, a Dortmund that doesn't allow Barcelona to think too much to attack, that besieges them with speed, the Germans' defense is very good, it only remains for them to know how to play this match, I am confident that they can put on a great show, as long as they don't get carried away by Raphinha's speed, he is a very versatile player , everything is fine, and they have to put at least 2 defenders to mark Yamal, now with Lewa I think that 1 man for him is enough.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 25, 2025, 09:02:49 PM

If Dortmund also uses an offensive strategy in the match against Barcelona then yes, many goals will not be avoided in my opinion. Both Barcelona and Dortmund will definitely succeed in scoring goals. It just depends on how each team's defense and attack line can be better than its opponent. But Dortmund looks like they will be careful in the match against Barcelona. It could be that they become more defensive than making an attacking strategy. But I don't know. I also hope that the match will be aggressive and not boring.

That's what I want to see, a Dortmund that doesn't stop, a Dortmund that doesn't allow Barcelona to think too much to attack, that besieges them with speed, the Germans' defense is very good, it only remains for them to know how to play this match, I am confident that they can put on a great show, as long as they don't get carried away by Raphinha's speed, he is a very versatile player , everything is fine, and they have to put at least 2 defenders to mark Yamal, now with Lewa I think that 1 man for him is enough.

Kovac demands dedication and passion from everyone on the pitch, and the Board has made it clear to Niko Kovac's team that at least 18 points are expected in the remaining 8 Bundesliga games. The new target is the Europa League.
With a 7-point gap from 5th place, the train has not left the station yet. So I am not optimistic about this game; Barca will win easily. IMO
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 27, 2025, 01:24:06 PM
There is no doubt that what Harry Kane lacks is just because he doesn't have a trophy. In fact, in terms of appearance, a trophy is something he really deserves. But the road is not that smooth so he can't get it.

He was even considered a curse when Bayern Munich failed to win the title for the first time after more than a decade he always got it.
If it is possible for a single player to win a trophy for his team, Harry Kane would have made it possible for the clubs he has been in. A club winning a trophy is a collective effort of the players, not what a single can do.

It is sad that Harry Kane hasn't won a trophy yet. I believe he will do that before the end of his career. Maybe it may be from his countryside or club side(Bayern Munich)
It's true a single tree standing somewhere can't be considered a forest hardy Kane has not been lucky and you have to blame him too because he allowed emotions about loving Tottenham to have not left the club since because a player like Kane should have been playing in a club that is competing in the champions League every season, Tottenham was not the right club for Kane he must have left the club earlier than this but with the way things are going Kane is going to break the chain of not winning a trophy because bayern munich is in a good position to win the bundesliga title this season
Wow you made a great analogy about a tree and that is what we can see from Harry Kane.

There were many opportunities for him to leave his old team but he stuck to his guns and that did him no favors. I was glad when he finally landed at Bayern Munich and there he could have increased his chances of winning a title that had eluded him for so long.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 27, 2025, 04:38:35 PM

If Dortmund also uses an offensive strategy in the match against Barcelona then yes, many goals will not be avoided in my opinion. Both Barcelona and Dortmund will definitely succeed in scoring goals. It just depends on how each team's defense and attack line can be better than its opponent. But Dortmund looks like they will be careful in the match against Barcelona. It could be that they become more defensive than making an attacking strategy. But I don't know. I also hope that the match will be aggressive and not boring.

That's what I want to see, a Dortmund that doesn't stop, a Dortmund that doesn't allow Barcelona to think too much to attack, that besieges them with speed, the Germans' defense is very good, it only remains for them to know how to play this match, I am confident that they can put on a great show, as long as they don't get carried away by Raphinha's speed, he is a very versatile player , everything is fine, and they have to put at least 2 defenders to mark Yamal, now with Lewa I think that 1 man for him is enough.
In fact, as long as Raphinha and Yamal's movements can be stopped by Dortmund's defenders or defensive midfielders, Barcelona's attacks will be easier to overcome. It's just that the fast game presented by Barcelona sometimes makes opponents quite overwhelmed. Dortmund sometimes have tenacity in matches against strong teams. So you can be sure that Barcelona will not easily score goals against Dortmund.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on March 27, 2025, 06:03:43 PM
we are in the final stages of the champions league, now the game is getting really tough and the matches in my opinion are getting difficult, hard-fought and also much more beautiful
Who do you think will pass this stage? The bets are open

I hope the last Italian team moves forward
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 27, 2025, 07:58:05 PM
Kovac demands dedication and passion from everyone on the pitch, and the Board has made it clear to Niko Kovac's team that at least 18 points are expected in the remaining 8 Bundesliga games. The new target is the Europa League.
With a 7-point gap from 5th place, the train has not left the station yet. So I am not optimistic about this game; Barca will win easily. IMO
Well to be honest yes, Barcelona has all the odds to win, if we go to the betting level I am sure that the bets will have a high degree of bias in favor of Barcelona winning, however for me a football match is a different story, it is the UCL, here in this competition every team rises too much, it is the best of the best, they play with their heart and leave everything on the field, it is time to wait and see if Dortmund can pull off the upset even though their chances are not very high.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on March 27, 2025, 08:13:35 PM
If it is possible for a single player to win a trophy for his team, Harry Kane would have made it possible for the clubs he has been in. A club winning a trophy is a collective effort of the players, not what a single can do.

It is sad that Harry Kane hasn't won a trophy yet. I believe he will do that before the end of his career. Maybe it may be from his countryside or club side(Bayern Munich)

If winning a Champions League trophy is a personal thing, I believe Mbape will have many more of it but despite his performance in PSG, there wasn't any fruitful result because of his connection with the rest of the players, if only one person is good and the rest are not good, the team will not go far to win any trophy, in the end he will be frustrated.

Kane has done enough for his team this season especially in their domestic league but this Champions League was a patch upon patch. The Inter they are facing today is among the team that qualified to the next stage and still qualify in the knockout, they need to be fear and analyze else the worst can happen to them
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on March 27, 2025, 09:20:33 PM
If it is possible for a single player to win a trophy for his team, Harry Kane would have made it possible for the clubs he has been in. A club winning a trophy is a collective effort of the players, not what a single can do.

It is sad that Harry Kane hasn't won a trophy yet. I believe he will do that before the end of his career. Maybe it may be from his countryside or club side(Bayern Munich)

If winning a Champions League trophy is a personal thing, I believe Mbape will have many more of it but despite his performance in PSG, there wasn't any fruitful result because of his connection with the rest of the players, if only one person is good and the rest are not good, the team will not go far to win any trophy, in the end he will be frustrated.

Kane has done enough for his team this season especially in their domestic league but this Champions League was a patch upon patch. The Inter they are facing today is among the team that qualified to the next stage and still qualify in the knockout, they need to be fear and analyze else the worst can happen to them
Inter is currently topping their league and they have the experience of playing in UCL. However, it might be difficult for them to win Bayern and qualify to the semifinals because Bayern is more aggressive than Inter. It's gonna be a match of survival of the fittest.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: debra on March 27, 2025, 11:59:43 PM
Inter is currently topping their league and they have the experience of playing in UCL. However, it might be difficult for them to win Bayern and qualify to the semifinals because Bayern is more aggressive than Inter. It's gonna be a match of survival of the fittest.
I'm sure Inter is strong enough to face Bayern Munich. Inter is leading Serie A table and Inter Milan performance is quite well in UCL. Although Bayern Munich looks more aggressive but I think Inter Milan has a better defense. I'm sure it won't be easy to score goals when Bayern Munich plays against Inter Milan. If Bayern Munich players have no chance to destroy the defense of Inter Milan, I am sure Inter Mulan will have a higher chance to qualify for the next round.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 28, 2025, 12:30:59 AM
In fact, as long as Raphinha and Yamal's movements can be stopped by Dortmund's defenders or defensive midfielders, Barcelona's attacks will be easier to overcome. It's just that the fast game presented by Barcelona sometimes makes opponents quite overwhelmed. Dortmund sometimes have tenacity in matches against strong teams. So you can be sure that Barcelona will not easily score goals against Dortmund.

There's no doubt about that, in fact I think one thing, Dortmund can't afford to let in fewer goals. Not only do they have to have the best defensive containment, but they also have to have the best attack, the speed? Yes, absolutely , They should make use of their best weapon , attacking down the flanks and crossing, because that's Barcelona's weakness , The defenders there are vulnerable, just ask Atlético de Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 28, 2025, 02:49:20 PM
In fact, as long as Raphinha and Yamal's movements can be stopped by Dortmund's defenders or defensive midfielders, Barcelona's attacks will be easier to overcome. It's just that the fast game presented by Barcelona sometimes makes opponents quite overwhelmed. Dortmund sometimes have tenacity in matches against strong teams. So you can be sure that Barcelona will not easily score goals against Dortmund.

There's no doubt about that, in fact I think one thing, Dortmund can't afford to let in fewer goals. Not only do they have to have the best defensive containment, but they also have to have the best attack, the speed? Yes, absolutely , They should make use of their best weapon , attacking down the flanks and crossing, because that's Barcelona's weakness , The defenders there are vulnerable, just ask Atlético de Madrid.
But I really hope that at least this season Barcelona can go further in the UCL. In fact, I'm starting to hope that Barcelona can get to the final. Because Barcelona hasn't done it for quite a long time. Dortmund is a difficult opponent. but Barcelona as the host in the first leg really has to be able to score lots of goals if they want to feel safe in the second leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on March 28, 2025, 05:42:30 PM
Inter is currently topping their league and they have the experience of playing in UCL. However, it might be difficult for them to win Bayern and qualify to the semifinals because Bayern is more aggressive than Inter. It's gonna be a match of survival of the fittest.
I'm sure Inter is strong enough to face Bayern Munich. Inter is leading Serie A table and Inter Milan performance is quite well in UCL. Although Bayern Munich looks more aggressive but I think Inter Milan has a better defense. I'm sure it won't be easy to score goals when Bayern Munich plays against Inter Milan. If Bayern Munich players have no chance to destroy the defense of Inter Milan, I am sure Inter Mulan will have a higher chance to qualify for the next round.
2 teams are 2 big teams in their domestic leagues, so it is certain that this will be a tough match for both teams. Both Bayern Munich and Inter Milan have the ability to beat each other.

I think we have the same thought that this match will not be easy for both teams and also will not be easy to predict. They could beat each other when they play as the host.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on March 28, 2025, 07:11:55 PM
2 teams are 2 big teams in their domestic leagues, so it is certain that this will be a tough match for both teams. Both Bayern Munich and Inter Milan have the ability to beat each other.

I think we have the same thought that this match will not be easy for both teams and also will not be easy to predict. They could beat each other when they play as the host.

Been best in the domestic league is subjective in the sense that a team will be at the top of their domestic league but the league wouldn't be tough like other leagues and it's even possible the teams that are in the tough league wouldn't be at the Champions League and the ones that are present will be facing minor leagues, that's the case of Inter and Bayern here.

Bayern Munich here is the one at the tough domestic league while Inter here in Seria A is in minor league. Bayern Munich has more experience than Inter even though Inter has been in the final once, they have never won any Champions League as of recent while they Bayern has of recent Champions League trophies.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 28, 2025, 11:28:31 PM
But I really hope that at least this season Barcelona can go further in the UCL. In fact, I'm starting to hope that Barcelona can get to the final. Because Barcelona hasn't done it for quite a long time. Dortmund is a difficult opponent. but Barcelona as the host in the first leg really has to be able to score lots of goals if they want to feel safe in the second leg.

It will be like that my friend, don't worry, for me Barcelona is a strong candidate even to win the UCL, if they get past a Dortmund they will probably fall asleep, however as I said before, Dortmund at this stage grows a lot that team, they become unstoppable, then in view of this you can sense that the path is not easy, but I have seen how well Barcelona have played, they can achieve it, in fact I think that the ideal final is a Madrid vs Barcelona.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on March 28, 2025, 11:36:26 PM
But I really hope that at least this season Barcelona can go further in the UCL. In fact, I'm starting to hope that Barcelona can get to the final. Because Barcelona hasn't done it for quite a long time. Dortmund is a difficult opponent. but Barcelona as the host in the first leg really has to be able to score lots of goals if they want to feel safe in the second leg.
With the sort of winning mentality that Hansi Flick has injected into the Barcelona team, the mentality that we've seen them play with in the last couple of games, it will be difficult for them to lose any game easily. Any team that is going to bring them down will have to struggle very hard to make sure that they stop the Barcelona attacking players from scoring because, aside from their mentality, their goalscorers are also scoring.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on March 28, 2025, 11:41:26 PM
It will be like that my friend, don't worry, for me Barcelona is a strong candidate even to win the UCL, if they get past a Dortmund they will probably fall asleep, however as I said before, Dortmund at this stage grows a lot that team, they become unstoppable, then in view of this you can sense that the path is not easy, but I have seen how well Barcelona have played, they can achieve it, in fact I think that the ideal final is a Madrid vs Barcelona.
Real Madrid vs Barcelona is surely an ideal final UCL this season. However, some people assume PSG may reach the final to face Barcelona or Inter Milan.  :D In UCL, it is very often that we have a surprise, but Real Madrid probably wins it if they reach the final round. Real Madrid stats in the final round is amazing, they almost won all the finals in the past. So, any team to dream UCL title, they must beat Real Madrid before Real Madrid reaches the final round.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 29, 2025, 07:38:25 AM
Real Madrid vs Barcelona is surely an ideal final UCL this season. However, some people assume PSG may reach the final to face Barcelona or Inter Milan.  :D In UCL, it is very often that we have a surprise, but Real Madrid probably wins it if they reach the final round. Real Madrid stats in the final round is amazing, they almost won all the finals in the past. So, any team to dream UCL title, they must beat Real Madrid before Real Madrid reaches the final round.
Well, when Real Madrid reaches the final round, we will immediately feel quite confident that they will win it. But if the opponent is Barcelona I think it will be an extraordinary moment. And I think it would be really interesting if that came to fruition. Because in my opinion the possibility of these two teams reaching the final is also very large given their respective qualities. And it would be amazing if El Classico was held in the UCL final.  ;D
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 29, 2025, 01:29:33 PM
Real Madrid vs Barcelona is surely an ideal final UCL this season. However, some people assume PSG may reach the final to face Barcelona or Inter Milan.  :D In UCL, it is very often that we have a surprise, but Real Madrid probably wins it if they reach the final round. Real Madrid stats in the final round is amazing, they almost won all the finals in the past. So, any team to dream UCL title, they must beat Real Madrid before Real Madrid reaches the final round.
Well, when Real Madrid reaches the final round, we will immediately feel quite confident that they will win it. But if the opponent is Barcelona I think it will be an extraordinary moment. And I think it would be really interesting if that came to fruition. Because in my opinion the possibility of these two teams reaching the final is also very large given their respective qualities. And it would be amazing if El Classico was held in the UCL final.  ;D

Whichever club reaches the final and wins the title will go down in history, as the 2024-2025 season will be the first UEFA Champions League final played under the new format. Swiss system.
By the way, Barcelona vs Real Madrid may be the ideal final for some, but after two defeats by Barca this season, I am not so enthusiastic about this idea.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on March 29, 2025, 02:31:46 PM
By the way, Barcelona vs Real Madrid may be the ideal final for some, but after two defeats by Barca this season, I am not so enthusiastic about this idea.
I am also not up for a Barcelona versus Real Madrid final and also do not think it will get that far; either Barcelona or Real Madrid will be knocked out before they get to the final of this competition. That is my prediction that you people can mark.

Real Madrid may have to play their next UCL game without some key players like Rudiger, Kylian Mbappe, Dani Ceballos, and Vinicius Jr.; they are being investigated for indecent conduct in their game against Atletico Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on March 29, 2025, 04:07:42 PM
Whichever club reaches the final and wins the title will go down in history, as the 2024-2025 season will be the first UEFA Champions League final played under the new format. Swiss system.
By the way, Barcelona vs Real Madrid may be the ideal final for some, but after two defeats by Barca this season, I am not so enthusiastic about this idea.

The new system looks transparent and gave equal opportunity for every team to give their fair share of performance unlike the group stage where teams are very limited to only there group, the small clubs are been cheated and don't usually get to the knockout stage when it's possible with this stage or even get another chance of round off.

However, the more you look at this new system, I don't think there is no much to be differentiate from the teams that are qualified to the quarter final, almost all the teams that use to reach the stage in the previous system are here playing for the next round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 29, 2025, 04:24:44 PM
It is sad that Harry Kane hasn't won a trophy yet. I believe he will do that before the end of his career. Maybe it may be from his countryside or club side(Bayern Munich)

You're right, I don't think he's had enough luck to have failed before , and he's a great player. Right now in the Bundesliga there's a good Chance he'll be Champion , but he Needs to win more things, a UCL that gives him much more status and that could make him go up a lot , I think things could get better this season, The truth is I don't think the other teams will be able to get close to them , although Leverkusen is a team that you can't trust because they're very angry, This time Kane could do it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on March 29, 2025, 06:44:05 PM
2 teams are 2 big teams in their domestic leagues, so it is certain that this will be a tough match for both teams. Both Bayern Munich and Inter Milan have the ability to beat each other.

I think we have the same thought that this match will not be easy for both teams and also will not be easy to predict. They could beat each other when they play as the host.

Been best in the domestic league is subjective in the sense that a team will be at the top of their domestic league but the league wouldn't be tough like other leagues and it's even possible the teams that are in the tough league wouldn't be at the Champions League and the ones that are present will be facing minor leagues, that's the case of Inter and Bayern here.

Bayern Munich here is the one at the tough domestic league while Inter here in Seria A is in minor league. Bayern Munich has more experience than Inter even though Inter has been in the final once, they have never won any Champions League as of recent while they Bayern has of recent Champions League trophies.
I disagree if you say that Inter Milan does not have the same experience as Bayern Munich. In terms of experience, they are both experienced. But of course the changes that exist make a difference between them, but it does not mean that one of them is not considered to have experience.

Talking about the results, I think mentality will be one of the determinants in this match, because a good mentality is needed by a team to achieve victory.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on March 29, 2025, 06:50:35 PM
It is sad that Harry Kane hasn't won a trophy yet. I believe he will do that before the end of his career. Maybe it may be from his countryside or club side(Bayern Munich)

You're right, I don't think he's had enough luck to have failed before , and he's a great player. Right now in the Bundesliga there's a good Chance he'll be Champion , but he Needs to win more things, a UCL that gives him much more status and that could make him go up a lot , I think things could get better this season, The truth is I don't think the other teams will be able to get close to them , although Leverkusen is a team that you can't trust because they're very angry, This time Kane could do it.
Many people used to say that Kane was cursed if he didn't leave Spurs and now he is at Bayern Munich, maybe he can win the Bundesliga trophy for his first trophy.
Or the Champions League trophy but for me there is little chance for Bayern Munich to win this season in the UCL.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on March 30, 2025, 11:02:00 AM

Real Madrid may have to play their next UCL game without some key players like Rudiger, Kylian Mbappe, Dani Ceballos, and Vinicius Jr.; they are being investigated for indecent conduct in their game against Atletico Madrid.
Bad news for the club... 
The UEFA investigation into the players' celebrations signals a focus on enforcing sportsmanship but investigating for Celebrations, wtf is this? Players are human beings too and can also show emotion
So if found guilty, would UEFA disqualify Madid from the UCL, or what? lol. What direction are we going now in football?
And it’s been a month since Madrid played this game, and UEFA is now doing investigations? Weird.  I think these things are not needed.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on March 30, 2025, 02:01:12 PM
Real Madrid may have to play their next UCL game without some key players like Rudiger, Kylian Mbappe, Dani Ceballos, and Vinicius Jr.; they are being investigated for indecent conduct in their game against Atletico Madrid.

I also read the news about UEFA's investigation into the issue, and we've seen match bans/suspension being issued out at national levels for both FIFA and CONMEBOL organized competitions for actions like this, the most recent one in my memory was the one handed to some Argentina and Uruguay players last year. That being said, I really don't think this investigation from Uefa would lead to immediate suspension for the guilty players, I believe it might just come down to some financial fines.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on March 30, 2025, 02:08:11 PM

Real Madrid may have to play their next UCL game without some key players like Rudiger, Kylian Mbappe, Dani Ceballos, and Vinicius Jr.; they are being investigated for indecent conduct in their game against Atletico Madrid.
Bad news for the club... 
The UEFA investigation into the players' celebrations signals a focus on enforcing sportsmanship but investigating for Celebrations, wtf is this? Players are human beings too and can also show emotion
So if found guilty, would UEFA disqualify Madid from the UCL, or what? lol. What direction are we going now in football?
And it’s been a month since Madrid played this game, and UEFA is now doing investigations? Weird.  I think these things are not needed.
It's a bit strange, but let it go because no one knows for sure what's going on, and now football tends to be strict with rules that are sometimes a bit strange.

But Real Madrid must have prepared for this, so they will prepare for the worst case scenario for the match they will play. This is also one of the things that can test their mentality.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 31, 2025, 05:33:57 PM
Real Madrid vs Barcelona is surely an ideal final UCL this season. However, some people assume PSG may reach the final to face Barcelona or Inter Milan.  :D In UCL, it is very often that we have a surprise, but Real Madrid probably wins it if they reach the final round. Real Madrid stats in the final round is amazing, they almost won all the finals in the past. So, any team to dream UCL title, they must beat Real Madrid before Real Madrid reaches the final round.

You're right, that's how things are, of course I say that the ideal final for me would be that one, because there would be many things demonstrated by whoever wants to be champion, what you say about PSG too, Luis Enrique has demonstrated that he has very good football despite the fact that the team doesn't have relevant stars, but he has known how to get up and move forward, it would be a big surprise if PSG could sneak into the final, because of this it can happen, in the UCL all the teams play with much more effort, they put on as if they were playing in a World Cup, that's what I like.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on March 31, 2025, 10:45:16 PM

Real Madrid may have to play their next UCL game without some key players like Rudiger, Kylian Mbappe, Dani Ceballos, and Vinicius Jr.; they are being investigated for indecent conduct in their game against Atletico Madrid.
Bad news for the club... 
The UEFA investigation into the players' celebrations signals a focus on enforcing sportsmanship but investigating for Celebrations, wtf is this? Players are human beings too and can also show emotion
So if found guilty, would UEFA disqualify Madid from the UCL, or what? lol. What direction are we going now in football?
And it’s been a month since Madrid played this game, and UEFA is now doing investigations? Weird.  I think these things are not needed.
Real Madrid will not be disqualified even if the players under investigation are proven guilty. But there will only be a ban on playing for the players involved. But I think everything will be fine and the players will not face any sanctions. Because after all, excessive celebrations have been happening for a long time. And it's actually considered normal even though there are some who think it's not that good because it's impolite.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: zeeMN on March 31, 2025, 10:58:22 PM
Hala Madrid all day everyday.

Madrid dug themselves from a very bad spot to gaining easy promotion after an excellent performance in the last games, and I see no reason why we pundits won't give them that favourite tag to win title looking at how well the team is balanced out, thought I would point out Liverpool to be the team to beat,but these guys only have one team and subs are just average players that can't lift the team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on April 02, 2025, 12:05:07 AM
Real Madrid may have to play their next UCL game without some key players like Rudiger, Kylian Mbappe, Dani Ceballos, and Vinicius Jr.; they are being investigated for indecent conduct in their game against Atletico Madrid.
This is really not good news to hear at this time when matches are tense up for Real Madrid to win most of them. Real Madrid has plans to win their remaining matches in La Liga and the Champions to be lucky in lifting any of them.

If their key players are found guilty of what you mentioned, don't you think it will prevent Real Madrid from achieving their goals for this season? I don't know how Real Madrid fans will be feeling about this, currently. All tensed up
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 02, 2025, 04:59:20 PM
^ Great chance for Arsenal to take the lead if those RM players will be suspended. Another thing the Gunners might have to exploit is the weak defense shown by RM in their Copa Del Rey match against Sociedad. If that team could put four goals in RM's net, then Arsenal could probably do as well.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 02, 2025, 07:48:09 PM
^ Great chance for Arsenal to take the lead if those RM players will be suspended. Another thing the Gunners might have to exploit is the weak defense shown by RM in their Copa Del Rey match against Sociedad. If that team could put four goals in RM's net, then Arsenal could probably do as well.
Well, the problems in Real Madrid's defense could really be a fatal problem for Real Madrid. Arsenal now even have Saka back in the team, making them appear more confident than usual. But we know Real Madrid is a team with a strong mentality in the UCL. So I look more at whether Arsenal will be able to play with a strong mentality or not in the UCL. because in previous seasons Arsenal's problem was always the same in the UCL. Namely, Arsenal is not strong enough mentally when they are in a big competition.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on April 02, 2025, 09:37:25 PM
^ Great chance for Arsenal to take the lead if those RM players will be suspended. Another thing the Gunners might have to exploit is the weak defense shown by RM in their Copa Del Rey match against Sociedad. If that team could put four goals in RM's net, then Arsenal could probably do as well.

Forget that speculation, they dare not try it. They can't because you can't stop people from celebrating the way they want as long as nobody is abused or injured. When Real Madrid players were abused, why was officials doing? They were only pain and disappointed because Real Madrid luckily won Atletico Madrid but thag doesn't stop anything.

Arsenal are going to meet Real Madrid and if they don't come prepare, they will be having hard time playing that match because Real Madrid joke everything but UCL is a must have especially when Mbape see it as opportunity to have his first UCL trophy.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 02, 2025, 09:40:21 PM
^ Great chance for Arsenal to take the lead if those RM players will be suspended. Another thing the Gunners might have to exploit is the weak defense shown by RM in their Copa Del Rey match against Sociedad. If that team could put four goals in RM's net, then Arsenal could probably do as well.
Well, the problems in Real Madrid's defense could really be a fatal problem for Real Madrid. Arsenal now even have Saka back in the team, making them appear more confident than usual. But we know Real Madrid is a team with a strong mentality in the UCL. So I look more at whether Arsenal will be able to play with a strong mentality or not in the UCL. because in previous seasons Arsenal's problem was always the same in the UCL. Namely, Arsenal is not strong enough mentally when they are in a big competition.
Real Madrid's balance is still not so good and you are right their defense sometimes works fragilely so that the opponent can put pressure on them which ultimately makes them have to feel unsatisfactory results.

However, in this meeting, I think Real Madrid has also prepared everything, including paying attention to one of Arsenal's players who has returned, that could be a threat to Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 02, 2025, 10:47:42 PM
^ Great chance for Arsenal to take the lead if those RM players will be suspended. Another thing the Gunners might have to exploit is the weak defense shown by RM in their Copa Del Rey match against Sociedad. If that team could put four goals in RM's net, then Arsenal could probably do as well.

Saka is back, Real Madrid is under investigation, and there will always be Arsenal fans who give themselves hope :)
That would be every Arsenal fan's dream, but we know it's not that easy, and Madrid can definitely beat Arsenal. IMO
But I hope there will be no suspensions. Let the teams play both legs, man-to-man. The winners take it all.
It's football. Too many rules will make it look like American football.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on April 02, 2025, 11:20:42 PM
^ Great chance for Arsenal to take the lead if those RM players will be suspended. Another thing the Gunners might have to exploit is the weak defense shown by RM in their Copa Del Rey match against Sociedad. If that team could put four goals in RM's net, then Arsenal could probably do as well.

Saka is back, Real Madrid is under investigation, and there will always be Arsenal fans who give themselves hope :)
That would be every Arsenal fan's dream, but we know it's not that easy, and Madrid can definitely beat Arsenal. IMO
But I hope there will be no suspensions. Let the teams play both legs, man-to-man. The winners take it all.
It's football. Too many rules will make it look like American football.
The false hopes that arsenal fan is giving them selves is a wrong one because they are only been carried away by sentiment and is not facing reality on ground because by current rating you can't rate madrid and arsenal at the same level the Gulf between this two teams is just too much any arsenal fan that is not facing reality reality, madrid is going to win this game and move into the last four I don't see arsenal as a threat to madrid by current form
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on April 02, 2025, 11:45:43 PM
^ Great chance for Arsenal to take the lead if those RM players will be suspended. Another thing the Gunners might have to exploit is the weak defense shown by RM in their Copa Del Rey match against Sociedad. If that team could put four goals in RM's net, then Arsenal could probably do as well.
I'm looking for the updated news, has it been decided that the investment in the 4 Real Madrid players is fixed and they are suspended? If yes, then Real Madrid will lose a lot because after all, the four players are key players of Real Madrid and this has a big influence on the current condition in the middle of Real Madrid. According to Ancelotti, it is just an expression of happiness and victory, but let's just wait for the results of the investigation. This has happened several times to Real Madrid players. And if this is true, then this will be very beneficial for Arsenal and they could be the ones to advance to the next round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 03, 2025, 12:15:54 AM
^ Great chance for Arsenal to take the lead if those RM players will be suspended. Another thing the Gunners might have to exploit is the weak defense shown by RM in their Copa Del Rey match against Sociedad. If that team could put four goals in RM's net, then Arsenal could probably do as well.
I'm looking for the updated news, has it been decided that the investment in the 4 Real Madrid players is fixed and they are suspended? If yes, then Real Madrid will lose a lot because after all, the four players are key players of Real Madrid and this has a big influence on the current condition in the middle of Real Madrid. According to Ancelotti, it is just an expression of happiness and victory, but let's just wait for the results of the investigation. This has happened several times to Real Madrid players. And if this is true, then this will be very beneficial for Arsenal and they could be the ones to advance to the next round.
This investigation is still unfinished, it must take a long time where the 4 players must have a defense that can justify.
It's just that maybe in the quarter-finals they can still play because until now there is still no news that the 4 players are suspended.
If that does happen then it is clearly an advantage for Arsenal...
But I think Real Madrid can still keep these players.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 03, 2025, 04:34:01 PM
^ Great chance for Arsenal to take the lead if those RM players will be suspended. Another thing the Gunners might have to exploit is the weak defense shown by RM in their Copa Del Rey match against Sociedad. If that team could put four goals in RM's net, then Arsenal could probably do as well.

Saka is back, Real Madrid is under investigation, and there will always be Arsenal fans who give themselves hope :)
That would be every Arsenal fan's dream, but we know it's not that easy, and Madrid can definitely beat Arsenal. IMO
But I hope there will be no suspensions. Let the teams play both legs, man-to-man. The winners take it all.
It's football. Too many rules will make it look like American football.
The false hopes that arsenal fan is giving them selves is a wrong one because they are only been carried away by sentiment and is not facing reality on ground because by current rating you can't rate madrid and arsenal at the same level the Gulf between this two teams is just too much any arsenal fan that is not facing reality reality, madrid is going to win this game and move into the last four I don't see arsenal as a threat to madrid by current form

I'm not putting Arsenal down, but imagine having this kind of mentality. lol
Forget about Saka coming back or not. Arsenal just has to believe that they can play against Madrid and win.
You may as well not go and play if you don't think you can beat them.
Arteta needs to adapt his tactics like Atletico Madrid did to stand a better chance and must ensure his team is mentally strong as Arsenal faces a tough test against Real Madrid in the UCL quarter-finals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on April 03, 2025, 05:12:01 PM
I'm not putting Arsenal down, but imagine having this kind of mentality. lol
Forget about Saka coming back or not. Arsenal just has to believe that they can play against Madrid and win.
You may as well not go and play if you don't think you can beat them.
Arteta needs to adapt his tactics like Atletico Madrid did to stand a better chance and must ensure his team is mentally strong as Arsenal faces a tough test against Real Madrid in the UCL quarter-finals.

The most beautiful thing about football is that our predictions don't usually determines the result. The players on the pitch do the needful. The hype around Real Madrid is just too much. The same Madrid that is being over hyped was trashed by Barcelona twice this season. Liverpool did the same. Smaller teams also gave them a tough time. Arsenal and Real Madrid barely meet in UEFA competitions, so we can't really use their H2H to compare them. As it stands, Real Madrid does not have a perfect squad, and same thing goes for Arsenal as well. Liverpool were the favourite to win this title, but the unimaginable happened. it's football, the players will do the talking, while we sit back and enjoy the game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 03, 2025, 06:32:54 PM
Aston Villa has been a very surprising team this season, because they have managed to get this far, whereas at the beginning they were not much considered. This is an achievement for them because it is not easy to compete in the Champions League.

It would be very interesting if they could beat Paris Saint Germain in their meeting. But of course it takes a lot of effort to make them able to do that.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 03, 2025, 07:35:25 PM
Aston Villa has been a very surprising team this season, because they have managed to get this far, whereas at the beginning they were not much considered. This is an achievement for them because it is not easy to compete in the Champions League.

It would be very interesting if they could beat Paris Saint Germain in their meeting. But of course it takes a lot of effort to make them able to do that.
Even though in the Premier League we see that Aston Villa is not very consistent and is only ranked 7th at the moment. but well, in the UCL they were very surprising because they were able to advance quite far to the quarter-finals. And perhaps it would be even more surprising if Aston Villa managed to beat PSG. Although I think it's quite difficult for it to be true. But opportunities do exist. Moreover, Aston Villa seems to be getting better recently. Because in the Premier League they also just beat Brighton with a big score of 0-3.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 03, 2025, 09:27:26 PM
^ Great chance for Arsenal to take the lead if those RM players will be suspended. Another thing the Gunners might have to exploit is the weak defense shown by RM in their Copa Del Rey match against Sociedad. If that team could put four goals in RM's net, then Arsenal could probably do as well.

Saka is back, Real Madrid is under investigation, and there will always be Arsenal fans who give themselves hope :)
That would be every Arsenal fan's dream, but we know it's not that easy, and Madrid can definitely beat Arsenal. IMO
But I hope there will be no suspensions. Let the teams play both legs, man-to-man. The winners take it all.
It's football. Too many rules will make it look like American football.
The false hopes that arsenal fan is giving them selves is a wrong one because they are only been carried away by sentiment and is not facing reality on ground because by current rating you can't rate madrid and arsenal at the same level the Gulf between this two teams is just too much any arsenal fan that is not facing reality reality, madrid is going to win this game and move into the last four I don't see arsenal as a threat to madrid by current form

I'm not putting Arsenal down, but imagine having this kind of mentality. lol
Forget about Saka coming back or not. Arsenal just has to believe that they can play against Madrid and win.
You may as well not go and play if you don't think you can beat them.
Arteta needs to adapt his tactics like Atletico Madrid did to stand a better chance and must ensure his team is mentally strong as Arsenal faces a tough test against Real Madrid in the UCL quarter-finals.
At the end, what happened to Atletico. It's the same fate for Arsenal too because at the end Madrid will be the winner. I will continue saying what I do say when it comes to discuss on this match. Arsenal should have the week winning mentality to win EPL first and praticalize it before they should consider that they might win Madrid in future if they clash.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 03, 2025, 10:54:23 PM
Many people used to say that Kane was cursed if he didn't leave Spurs and now he is at Bayern Munich, maybe he can win the Bundesliga trophy for his first trophy.
Or the Champions League trophy but for me there is little chance for Bayern Munich to win this season in the UCL.

Yes, in fact I remember it clearly, now I hope he gets rid of that quickly both with the English national team and with Bayern, they are just a few games away from consolidating themselves,  but they cannot and should not let their guard down, at this moment the Bundesliga reminds me of the 2nd Bundesliga, that everything is decided at the end, it is incredible that this German football gets so exciting at the end, I remember that when St Pauli was there they could not go up to the 1st Division, then that it is now there they know that the level is much more Demanding and that they have to get much more in tune , this is something important now in the Bundesliga and Especially for Kane and for Bayern , Leverkusen is the only team that can damage that walk.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on April 03, 2025, 11:10:14 PM
Aston Villa has been a very surprising team this season, because they have managed to get this far, whereas at the beginning they were not much considered. This is an achievement for them because it is not easy to compete in the Champions League.

It would be very interesting if they could beat Paris Saint Germain in their meeting. But of course it takes a lot of effort to make them able to do that.

They have been moving silently and act like they don't exist. They have been quiet lately but they are moving like they are not really doing anything but they are actually. However, are they going to continue forever isn't something I'm not sure or certain about because PSG are very serious with all the matches that comes their way, they win it easily.

The next stage after this quarter final is between Real Madrid and PSG, that's all I can see in their games but if Aston Villa wins PSG and qualify for the next stage, Real Madrid will be ready for any team that made it out of their side because they will be there waiting.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 03, 2025, 11:26:28 PM
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But I hope there will be no suspensions. Let the teams play both legs, man-to-man. The winners take it all.
It's football. Too many rules will make it look like American football.
Yeah, I also don't like some of the recent rules that they implemented. An example of that is getting a yellow for excessive celebration ;D Maybe just give them a fine for doing that or for challenging the refs decisions. It's probably just a slap on the wrist for them but I think that's better than a suspension.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 03, 2025, 11:34:09 PM
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But I hope there will be no suspensions. Let the teams play both legs, man-to-man. The winners take it all.
It's football. Too many rules will make it look like American football.
Yeah, I also don't like some of the recent rules that they implemented. An example of that is getting a yellow for excessive celebration ;D Maybe just give them a fine for doing that or for challenging the refs decisions. It's probably just a slap on the wrist for them but I think that's better than a suspension.
With the new regulations, goal celebrations should not be excessive. Lol
Now indeed the rules of football are getting stricter because FIFA has designed in such a way that players respect others more when celebrating.

However, my prediction is that Real Madrid players will not be suspended.
They can play later against Arsenal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 04, 2025, 03:17:54 PM
Aston Villa has been a very surprising team this season, because they have managed to get this far, whereas at the beginning they were not much considered. This is an achievement for them because it is not easy to compete in the Champions League.

It would be very interesting if they could beat Paris Saint Germain in their meeting. But of course it takes a lot of effort to make them able to do that.
Even though in the Premier League we see that Aston Villa is not very consistent and is only ranked 7th at the moment. but well, in the UCL they were very surprising because they were able to advance quite far to the quarter-finals. And perhaps it would be even more surprising if Aston Villa managed to beat PSG. Although I think it's quite difficult for it to be true. But opportunities do exist. Moreover, Aston Villa seems to be getting better recently. Because in the Premier League they also just beat Brighton with a big score of 0-3.
True, in the Premier League they are struggling and cannot compete at the top, but that is also common for them to be in the middle of the competition, only last season they were able to perform well and bring them to compete in the Champions League.

The Premier League is also very competitive, maybe in terms of competition it can be said that the Premier League is below the Champions League, that's in my opinion,
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on April 04, 2025, 10:30:55 PM
Aston Villa has been a very surprising team this season, because they have managed to get this far, whereas at the beginning they were not much considered. This is an achievement for them because it is not easy to compete in the Champions League.
True. Aston Villa performed very well in UCL, they were also quite lucky in the knock-out round that they didn't face very strong team. In round of 16, Aston Villa played against Club Brugge, it wasn't a favorite team. However, it is a good achievement that Aston Villa could reach quarter-final.

It would be very interesting if they could beat Paris Saint Germain in their meeting. But of course it takes a lot of effort to make them able to do that.
Yes, it will be an interesting match because PSG is one of strong teams in UCL. This is the real test for Aston Villa, they must show that they deserve to play in the quarter-final. But I'm not really sure that Aston Villa will have a big chance to beat PSG. I think PSG should be the favorite team to go to the next round. Beating Liverpool is a proof that PSG is very capable to reach the final.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 05, 2025, 12:02:04 AM
I'm not putting Arsenal down, but imagine having this kind of mentality. lol
Forget about Saka coming back or not. Arsenal just has to believe that they can play against Madrid and win.
You may as well not go and play if you don't think you can beat them.
Arteta needs to adapt his tactics like Atletico Madrid did to stand a better chance and must ensure his team is mentally strong as Arsenal faces a tough test against Real Madrid in the UCL quarter-finals.

The most beautiful thing about football is that our predictions don't usually determines the result. The players on the pitch do the needful. The hype around Real Madrid is just too much. The same Madrid that is being over hyped was trashed by Barcelona twice this season. Liverpool did the same. Smaller teams also gave them a tough time. Arsenal and Real Madrid barely meet in UEFA competitions, so we can't really use their H2H to compare them. As it stands, Real Madrid does not have a perfect squad, and same thing goes for Arsenal as well. Liverpool were the favourite to win this title, but the unimaginable happened. it's football, the players will do the talking, while we sit back and enjoy the game.

Sit back and enjoy the game. I like this sentence. :)

No one can deny that the players are the ones who determine the final result on the pitch, but football is a team game.
The medical staff, coaching staff, and supporters can be boosters for the players to do their best for victory.
And Football predictions have become an inseparable part of the football-watching experience.
Football predictions combine objective analysis based on data and statistics with subjective judgments that take into account factors that are difficult to measure, such as team motivation, match pressure, and other psychological factors. The prediction process encourages us to learn more about teams, players, and the dynamics of football.
Football prediction is not so much about getting the final result right. It's more about the process prediction because it's all part of the education about football itself. IMHO
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 05, 2025, 12:17:06 AM
Arteta needs to adapt his tactics like Atletico Madrid did to stand a better chance and must ensure his team is mentally strong as Arsenal faces a tough test against Real Madrid in the UCL quarter-finals.
The Atletico Madrid coach has played Real Madrid a couple of times in their local league, so playing them in the Champions League would not have been any different. It's an entirely different thing for the Arsenal coach because this is actually his first real test against Real Madrid in a very competitive stage in a European competition.

Rudiger, Mbappe and the rest who were rumored to likely be missing this game because of their actions from their last Champions League game have merely been fined for it and will be available to play.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 05, 2025, 11:38:22 PM
Aston Villa has been a very surprising team this season, because they have managed to get this far, whereas at the beginning they were not much considered. This is an achievement for them because it is not easy to compete in the Champions League.
True. Aston Villa performed very well in UCL, they were also quite lucky in the knock-out round that they didn't face very strong team. In round of 16, Aston Villa played against Club Brugge, it wasn't a favorite team. However, it is a good achievement that Aston Villa could reach quarter-final.

It would be very interesting if they could beat Paris Saint Germain in their meeting. But of course it takes a lot of effort to make them able to do that.
Yes, it will be an interesting match because PSG is one of strong teams in UCL. This is the real test for Aston Villa, they must show that they deserve to play in the quarter-final. But I'm not really sure that Aston Villa will have a big chance to beat PSG. I think PSG should be the favorite team to go to the next round. Beating Liverpool is a proof that PSG is very capable to reach the final.
If they want to win, then Aston Villa must learn from Liverpool's defeat when facing Paris Saint Germain. There it is very clear where Paris Saint Germain is more prominent and they can anticipate that.

I will not expect much from Aston Villa, but I want to see them give something interesting and if they are lucky they can advance to the semifinals. We'll see how far they go this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 06, 2025, 11:00:58 AM
There has been the latest news about the investigation carried out by Real Madrid players during the match against Atletico Madrid.

None of the Real Madrid players have been suspended, they will be available to play against Arsenal only the player who will be fined for 40k euros for Rudiger.

It seems that the Real Madrid players will remain strong as no player has been suspended.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 06, 2025, 11:24:07 AM
Arteta needs to adapt his tactics like Atletico Madrid did to stand a better chance and must ensure his team is mentally strong as Arsenal faces a tough test against Real Madrid in the UCL quarter-finals.
The Atletico Madrid coach has played Real Madrid a couple of times in their local league, so playing them in the Champions League would not have been any different. It's an entirely different thing for the Arsenal coach because this is actually his first real test against Real Madrid in a very competitive stage in a European competition.

Rudiger, Mbappe and the rest who were rumored to likely be missing this game because of their actions from their last Champions League game have merely been fined for it and will be available to play.

You are right, but at least from the match between Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid in the second leg of the UCL round of 16, Arteta can see how Simeone can motivate his players, and there is a side of Real Madrid's defense that can be exploited to achieve victory.

The fines given to Rudiger, Mbappe, and several other players will certainly benefit Madrid because they will still be able to play, but this is not an excuse for Arteta not to beat Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 06, 2025, 06:10:43 PM
You are right, but at least from the match between Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid in the second leg of the UCL round of 16, Arteta can see how Simeone can motivate his players, and there is a side of Real Madrid's defense that can be exploited to achieve victory.

The fines given to Rudiger, Mbappe, and several other players will certainly benefit Madrid because they will still be able to play, but this is not an excuse for Arteta not to beat Madrid.
Arsenal have to find Real Madrid's weak points, and they seem to have more of them now. They lost their last game against Valencia in La Liga, although their defeat was also due to being very unlucky in my opinion.

Arteta must have studied everything he could do to win this game, but we'll see if his players can implement it well or not.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 06, 2025, 08:31:46 PM
You are right, but at least from the match between Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid in the second leg of the UCL round of 16, Arteta can see how Simeone can motivate his players, and there is a side of Real Madrid's defense that can be exploited to achieve victory.

The fines given to Rudiger, Mbappe, and several other players will certainly benefit Madrid because they will still be able to play, but this is not an excuse for Arteta not to beat Madrid.
Arsenal have to find Real Madrid's weak points, and they seem to have more of them now. They lost their last game against Valencia in La Liga, although their defeat was also due to being very unlucky in my opinion.

Arteta must have studied everything he could do to win this game, but we'll see if his players can implement it well or not.
I don't think anything will change in the outcome of this match. Despite people giving Arsenal hope on winning the game. Madrid can be careless when it comes to other competitions but not in UCL, because they're more deadly. I hope Arsenal defense will be able to stand the pressure from Madrid attack because they are very dangerous.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on April 06, 2025, 11:19:05 PM
If they want to win, then Aston Villa must learn from Liverpool's defeat when facing Paris Saint Germain. There it is very clear where Paris Saint Germain is more prominent and they can anticipate that.
Liverpool failed against PSG, sure Aston Villa don't use the same tactics when they play against PSG. I'm sure Aston Villa will focus much on their defense, they won't try to play very offensive. If Aston Villa use the tactic of counter-attack, I think it will be suitable. Aston Villa has many great players in attacking line (Rashford, Asensio, Watkins, etc).

I will not expect much from Aston Villa, but I want to see them give something interesting and if they are lucky they can advance to the semifinals. We'll see how far they go this season.
Although Aston Villa isn't a favorite team but I see a chance for this team to beat PSG. Aston Villa actually has a nice squad, they also has reputable coach (Unai Emery). If Aston Villa has a luck and they play with their best, they may go to the next round.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Joeboy on April 06, 2025, 11:44:44 PM
Arteta needs to adapt his tactics like Atletico Madrid did to stand a better chance and must ensure his team is mentally strong as Arsenal faces a tough test against Real Madrid in the UCL quarter-finals.
The Atletico Madrid coach has played Real Madrid a couple of times in their local league, so playing them in the Champions League would not have been any different. It's an entirely different thing for the Arsenal coach because this is actually his first real test against Real Madrid in a very competitive stage in a European competition.

Rudiger, Mbappe and the rest who were rumored to likely be missing this game because of their actions from their last Champions League game have merely been fined for it and will be available to play.

You are right, but at least from the match between Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid in the second leg of the UCL round of 16, Arteta can see how Simeone can motivate his players, and there is a side of Real Madrid's defense that can be exploited to achieve victory.

The fines given to Rudiger, Mbappe, and several other players will certainly benefit Madrid because they will still be able to play, but this is not an excuse for Arteta not to beat Madrid.
This season is for Barcelona, they are really in form, they have won almost of their matches  this season, Raphinha, Lewandowski, Feran Torres, Yamal, this guy's are really on edge to bring the coup home and I trust they can do it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 07, 2025, 03:43:42 PM
This season is for Barcelona, they are really in form, they have won almost of their matches  this season, Raphinha, Lewandowski, Feran Torres, Yamal, this guy's are really on edge to bring the coup home and I trust they can do it.
I like your optimism about the Barcelona club. Because I think actually the majority of us also have almost the same thoughts when it comes to Barcelona's performance. but about becoming champion maybe that's still not certain. Because teams that look strong sometimes lose to teams that are not favorites. At UCL things like that often happen. Even though it is sometimes quite annoying, surprises at UCL do happen a lot.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 07, 2025, 06:49:31 PM
This season is for Barcelona, they are really in form, they have won almost of their matches  this season, Raphinha, Lewandowski, Feran Torres, Yamal, this guy's are really on edge to bring the coup home and I trust they can do it.
I like your optimism about the Barcelona club. Because I think actually the majority of us also have almost the same thoughts when it comes to Barcelona's performance. but about becoming champion maybe that's still not certain. Because teams that look strong sometimes lose to teams that are not favorites. At UCL things like that often happen. Even though it is sometimes quite annoying, surprises at UCL do happen a lot.
UCL is not a domestic league that only consist of clubs from the same league. UCL is the combination of all top four champions in their various domestic league. I will not also come to conclusions that Barcelona have won the league because they can still get defeated and kicked out of the competition in the dying minutes. However, I expect to see them in the finals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on April 07, 2025, 08:01:53 PM
This season is for Barcelona, they are really in form, they have won almost of their matches  this season, Raphinha, Lewandowski, Feran Torres, Yamal, this guy's are really on edge to bring the coup home and I trust they can do it.

They have won their games at home but so far, it was Laliga games they had very easy probably because it was a usual game with similar teams they are used to but Champions League brings different teams together to challenge each other and you might even be surprised the team you never expected to win might be the one to win.

Everyone never expected Liverpool to leave so soon but they were humble by PSG that doesn't go far in the Premier League, the pattern of  Champions league is no longer by how good you are, you can be good in your games and still lose here, only time will tell about Barcelona.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 07, 2025, 11:10:03 PM
My predictions for the 1st leg of the quarterfinals:
Bayern Vs Inter: draw
Arsenal Vs Real Madrid: draw
Barcelona Vs Dortmund: Barcelona
PSG Vs Aston Villa: PSG

I have low confidence in PSG winning, I think, in general, the Premier League is much stronger than French Ligue 1, but I was impressed how dominant PSG was against Liverpool, it could mean they've found a formula for playing against English teams.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 08, 2025, 09:32:20 AM
This season is for Barcelona, they are really in form, they have won almost of their matches  this season, Raphinha, Lewandowski, Feran Torres, Yamal, this guy's are really on edge to bring the coup home and I trust they can do it.
I like your optimism about the Barcelona club. Because I think actually the majority of us also have almost the same thoughts when it comes to Barcelona's performance. but about becoming champion maybe that's still not certain. Because teams that look strong sometimes lose to teams that are not favorites. At UCL things like that often happen. Even though it is sometimes quite annoying, surprises at UCL do happen a lot.
UCL is not a domestic league that only consist of clubs from the same league. UCL is the combination of all top four champions in their various domestic league. I will not also come to conclusions that Barcelona have won the league because they can still get defeated and kicked out of the competition in the dying minutes. However, I expect to see them in the finals.
And finally today the UCL will start again for the quarter-final first leg. Today's schedule is Bayern vs Inter Milan and Arsenal vs Real Madrid.

These two matches are difficult to predict. And I still find it quite difficult to make a choice. My choices are still changing. What do you think? is there a favorite team?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ropyu1978 on April 08, 2025, 09:59:55 AM
This season is for Barcelona, they are really in form, they have won almost of their matches  this season, Raphinha, Lewandowski, Feran Torres, Yamal, this guy's are really on edge to bring the coup home and I trust they can do it.
I like your optimism about the Barcelona club. Because I think actually the majority of us also have almost the same thoughts when it comes to Barcelona's performance. but about becoming champion maybe that's still not certain. Because teams that look strong sometimes lose to teams that are not favorites. At UCL things like that often happen. Even though it is sometimes quite annoying, surprises at UCL do happen a lot.
UCL is not a domestic league that only consist of clubs from the same league. UCL is the combination of all top four champions in their various domestic league. I will not also come to conclusions that Barcelona have won the league because they can still get defeated and kicked out of the competition in the dying minutes. However, I expect to see them in the finals.
And finally today the UCL will start again for the quarter-final first leg. Today's schedule is Bayern vs Inter Milan and Arsenal vs Real Madrid.

These two matches are difficult to predict. And I still find it quite difficult to make a choice. My choices are still changing. What do you think? is there a favorite team?
Excited moment waiting for finally come again, UEFA Champion League quarter final first leg match and today have two matches Arsenal vs Real Madrid and Bayern vs Inter.
As Madrid fans prefer for watching my favorite teams although Bayern vs Inter are another interested match, I think quarter final round difficult for predicting which one favorite team win tonight, Madrid or Arsenal.

All teams quarter final of Champion League have good performed in domestic league, Inter and Bayern leading domestic league standings and difficult predicting which one more stronger today for first leg match?

Bayern or Inter Milan and Arsenal or Madrid vote your favorite qualify teams to semifinal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 08, 2025, 11:36:01 AM
You are right, but at least from the match between Atletico Madrid and Real Madrid in the second leg of the UCL round of 16, Arteta can see how Simeone can motivate his players, and there is a side of Real Madrid's defense that can be exploited to achieve victory.

The fines given to Rudiger, Mbappe, and several other players will certainly benefit Madrid because they will still be able to play, but this is not an excuse for Arteta not to beat Madrid.
Arsenal have to find Real Madrid's weak points, and they seem to have more of them now. They lost their last game against Valencia in La Liga, although their defeat was also due to being very unlucky in my opinion.

Arteta must have studied everything he could do to win this game, but we'll see if his players can implement it well or not.

Yep. This mid-week. Mid-week madness, football fans feast, and we will know the results. We shall see who gets cooked, but it won't be easy for Arteta...
Valencia beat Real Madrid, and I won't forget that, but there is a 60% chance of Real Madrid winning, and if Arsenal wins over Madrid, it will be a surprise in the middle of the week.
This is gonna be fun to watch. Arsenal fans are probably already booking their tickets for the next round... of the Europa League. just kidding :)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: DragonF on April 08, 2025, 11:49:32 AM
Excited moment waiting for finally come again, UEFA Champion League quarter final first leg match and today have two matches Arsenal vs Real Madrid and Bayern vs Inter.
As Madrid fans prefer for watching my favorite teams although Bayern vs Inter are another interested match, I think quarter final round difficult for predicting which one favorite team win tonight, Madrid or Arsenal.

All teams quarter final of Champion League have good performed in domestic league, Inter and Bayern leading domestic league standings and difficult predicting which one more stronger today for first leg match?

Bayern or Inter Milan and Arsenal or Madrid vote your favorite qualify teams to semifinal.

The Arsenal vs. Madrid game appears to be the big game tonight. It is a tough game, but I think Arsenal will win narrowly at home. The last time these two teams met in the Champions League was in 2006, and Arsenal won thanks to a brilliant performance by Arsenal legend Thierry Henry.

Both teams will be without several key players due to injuries. The absence of Gabriel Magalhaes will be felt by Arsenal's back line, unless Kiwior puts up a strong performance. Madrid will undoubtedly miss key players, particularly Courtois in goal.

Looking at both teams' recent performances, Arsenal is the more informed team, and Arsenal will take advantage of Madrid's defensive struggles to punish Madrid in the Emirates. 
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Agbe on April 08, 2025, 05:03:32 PM
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Well we can't predict the game for now because all the two teams have strength but from previous games performances, Arsenal is leading with more goals and in my prediction in this game, predict for Arsenal to win the game. And it because many key players of Real Madrid is out of the team as it is. Aurelien T has been suspended from the team and others have injuries so it will be difficult for real Madrid to win the game. And if they play draw it is their luck.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on April 08, 2025, 07:32:33 PM
The absence of Gabriel Magalhaes will be felt by Arsenal's back line, unless Kiwior puts up a strong performance. Madrid will undoubtedly miss key players, particularly Courtois in goal.

Looking at both teams' recent performances, Arsenal is the more informed team, and Arsenal will take advantage of Madrid's defensive struggles to punish Madrid in the Emirates.

Arsenal will surely miss the leadership of Gabriel defensively, however in my candid opinion this tie would be won or lost on the offensive end not defensive one, Arsenal, even if Gabriel were to be available for the match would likely be unbale to stop Real Madrid's attack from scoring, it's now going to be left to Arsenal if they can match or surpass Real Madrid with their own attack. Hopefully the availability of Saka and Martinelli will help bolster their chances.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Mate2237 on April 08, 2025, 08:03:18 PM
The absence of Gabriel Magalhaes will be felt by Arsenal's back line, unless Kiwior puts up a strong performance. Madrid will undoubtedly miss key players, particularly Courtois in goal.

Looking at both teams' recent performances, Arsenal is the more informed team, and Arsenal will take advantage of Madrid's defensive struggles to punish Madrid in the Emirates.

Arsenal will surely miss the leadership of Gabriel defensively, however in my candid opinion this tie would be won or lost on the offensive end not defensive one, Arsenal, even if Gabriel were to be available for the match would likely be unbale to stop Real Madrid's attack from scoring, it's now going to be left to Arsenal if they can match or surpass Real Madrid with their own attack. Hopefully the availability of Saka and Martinelli will help bolster their chances.
This is a showdown for the two teams. And the match is unpredictable, but we can say only try our lucks to select any of the two teams to win and if you win you go home with smile and if you loss you take it as normal gambling. If Gabriel is not in the squad in the side of Arsenal, the same the with Real Madrid. Many have predicted that because of the absence of many Real Madrid players, they will lose the game. There is a serious argument going in the viewing centers and the community right is rowdy.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on April 08, 2025, 10:01:25 PM
It's still a barren draw between Arsenal and Real Madrid after the first 45 minutes, both team have a their chances, but Arsenal have been the better team in the first half and could have taken the lead on two different occasions, the first one was a Thomas Partey that was goal but deflected back out by Saliba. If the game should continue like it did in the first half, the Arsenal could end up winning the match, but it's still an open game and hopefully the 2nd half would be as interesting as the 1st, despite the lack goals so far.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 08, 2025, 10:01:30 PM
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It has been end to end in the Arsenal game, Arsenal and Real Madrid have both had chances to score. I hope we are able o take our chances here at the Emirates, because the atmosphere will be different in Spain.

I like that Arsenal have played them without fear, it was a confident first half from Arsenal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on April 08, 2025, 10:05:27 PM
Both teams will be without several key players due to injuries. The absence of Gabriel Magalhaes will be felt by Arsenal's back line, unless Kiwior puts up a strong performance. Madrid will undoubtedly miss key players, particularly Courtois in goal.

Looking at both teams' recent performances, Arsenal is the more informed team, and Arsenal will take advantage of Madrid's defensive struggles to punish Madrid in the Emirates.

With the performance I watched in the first half so far, I don’t think the absence of Gabriel Magalhaes is affecting Arsenal in any way, the Gunners defense was very strong in the first half, Real Madrid attacking players were unable to breakthrough and score goals. The match is getting more interesting than I expected, Arsenal is dominating Real Madrid in term of attacking.

However, Courtois did not miss the first leg against Arsenal’s, the goalkeeper had saved Real Madrid in the first half, blocking many shots from Arsenal that could have result in goal. The second half is about to start, let’s see if Arsenal can take the home advantage to beat Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 08, 2025, 10:12:37 PM
Inter has taken the lead away from home in the first half on the 38th minutes. Bayern is struggling to equalize the goal as the match is currently in the second half. Inter is dominating the game and if they can double their goal, it will be a big problem for Bayern to put themselves back in the game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Amug123 on April 08, 2025, 10:16:38 PM
It's still a barren draw between Arsenal and Real Madrid after the first 45 minutes, both team have a their chances, but Arsenal have been the better team in the first half and could have taken the lead on two different occasions, the first one was a Thomas Partey that was goal but deflected back out by Saliba. If the game should continue like it did in the first half, the Arsenal could end up winning the match, but it's still an open game and hopefully the 2nd half would be as interesting as the 1st, despite the lack goals so far.
I wasn't expecting both teams to score so early both teams have a strong defensive display .Arsenal have been the dominant side this first half creating scoring opportunities including a promising from Thomas, I think Arsenal needs to win this first leg with atleast two goals to have a chance of advancing to the next stage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 08, 2025, 10:49:39 PM
For sure there are people who believe Arsenal could win against Real but I bet nobody expected it to be by this margin. No matter what team you are, it's never easy to come back from three goals down even with another full 90 minutes (leg 2). This match is going to be one of Arteta's career highlights.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 08, 2025, 11:07:38 PM
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Two games, two surprises. Both favourites lost tonight. Bayern's loss is minimal so they are still in play, although it might be hard to defeat Inter on their home turf.
Real Madrid is probably already out. I don't see Arsenal wasting a 3-goal advantage even if Real is much more dangerous at home. If the gunners stay focused next week, they will go through to the semi-finals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Salahmu on April 08, 2025, 11:07:52 PM
This is a showdown for the two teams. And the match is unpredictable, but we can say only try our lucks to select any of the two teams to win and if you win you go home with smile and if you loss you take it as normal gambling. If Gabriel is not in the squad in the side of Arsenal, the same the with Real Madrid. Many have predicted that because of the absence of many Real Madrid players, they will lose the game. There is a serious argument going in the viewing centers and the community right is rowdy.

I didn't believe what happened today on this matches, as strong as Real Madrid with a lot of champions League capacity could not at least draw Arsenal, I have lost my bet on them, I was very convinced that real Madrid will be the winner but they lost 3:0 to Arsenal, what an unbelievable match, now real Madrid is at the point of losing because it will be hard winning Arsenal next let alone scoring four goals. Bayern Munich got 2:1 to Inter Milan but if they tried they can catch up but real is the one I'm no longer sure of.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on April 08, 2025, 11:15:37 PM
For sure there are people who believe Arsenal could win against Real but I bet nobody expected it to be by this margin. No matter what team you are, it's never easy to come back from three goals down even with another full 90 minutes (leg 2). This match is going to be one of Arteta's career highlights.
With the 3-goal margin, Arsenal had against Real Madrid. I would not be wrong if I give the whole match victory to Arsenal. Because there's no way Real Madrid will outplay Arsenal in the second leg to score more than 3 goals against Arsenal.

Let Real Madrid accept the fact that this year's Champions League trophy will not be their own. They should focus more on the LaLiga league to check if they can beat Barcelona from having it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 08, 2025, 11:25:41 PM
For sure there are people who believe Arsenal could win against Real but I bet nobody expected it to be by this margin. No matter what team you are, it's never easy to come back from three goals down even with another full 90 minutes (leg 2). This match is going to be one of Arteta's career highlights.
With the 3-goal margin, Arsenal had against Real Madrid. I would not be wrong if I give the whole match victory to Arsenal. Because there's no way Real Madrid will outplay Arsenal in the second leg to score more than 3 goals against Arsenal.

Let Real Madrid accept the fact that this year's Champions League trophy will not be their own. They should focus more on the LaLiga league to check if they can beat Barcelona from having it.
Tough to comeback from that but I would not completely consider them as out of the competition. Maybe the crowd could help them out somehow. I mean they could still force a draw at home and decide the match by penalty shootout.

On La Liga, RM is also slipping up.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on April 08, 2025, 11:56:12 PM
Tough to comeback from that but I would not completely consider them as out of the competition. Maybe the crowd could help them out somehow. I mean they could still force a draw at home and decide the match by penalty shootout.

On La Liga, RM is also slipping up.

It was a terrible night for Real Madrid, it was unbelievable that Arsenal scored 3 goals against Real Madrid in the second half to keep a clean sheet. Arsenal dominated Real Madrid throughout the match, they kept Real Madrid silent in every position, I can’t believe Real Madrid had Mbappe, Vinicius and Rodrydo in their frontline because they had zero contribution during the game.

However, do you think Real Madrid will make a comeback in the second leg after they failed to get a single goal playing away against Arsenal? I believe football is unpredictable and Real Madrid could get a home advantage to win the second leg but I am not sure if they can score 3 goals in the second leg when they were unable to score a single goal at Emirates.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Amphenomenon on April 09, 2025, 12:00:37 AM
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With the 3-goal margin, Arsenal had against Real Madrid. I would not be wrong if I give the whole match victory to Arsenal. Because there's no way Real Madrid will outplay Arsenal in the second leg to score more than 3 goals against Arsenal.

Let Real Madrid accept the fact that this year's Champions League trophy will not be their own. They should focus more on the LaLiga league to check if they can beat Barcelona from having it.
Tough to comeback from that but I would not completely consider them as out of the competition. Maybe the crowd could help them out somehow. I mean they could still force a draw at home and decide the match by penalty shootout.

On La Liga, RM is also slipping up.
Yea but I doubt Real Madrid can get a comeback, that would be really difficult and like a miracle for it to happen especially since their defense strength is seriously weak and now Camavinga  is definitely not going to be available for the game after his red card.

What happened to Real Madrid tonight that they conceded that number of goals is not really too shocking for me, since against Real Sociedad in the last week Copa dey Rey semi final win. While before then they scored and later towards the ending of the game Sociedad were already leading 3 goals to 1 and before they got a comeback and a win. Arsenal defense are more stronger I doubt such opportunity might come like that and chances needs to be taken well not like tonight.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on April 09, 2025, 12:40:37 AM
For sure there are people who believe Arsenal could win against Real but I bet nobody expected it to be by this margin. No matter what team you are, it's never easy to come back from three goals down even with another full 90 minutes (leg 2). This match is going to be one of Arteta's career highlights.
It is not that there are people who believed that Arsenal would win Real Madrid, I was one of them and I said it countless times in the other forum and also said it in the social media. But to be very honest, I did not expect that the goal margin will be as wide as three goals. Infact, Real Madrid should just thank their goalie who saved their ass, without him, it would have been about 5 goals.
This is a pure champions league surprise. Congratulations to Arteta and his boys.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on April 09, 2025, 04:40:16 AM
Let Real Madrid accept the fact that this year's Champions League trophy will not be their own. They should focus more on the LaLiga league to check if they can beat Barcelona from having it.

Let’s be honest too, I think Real Madrid have better chances if turning the tie around than actually beating Barcelona to La Liga this season, or maybe they could just focus on the Copa Del Rey, which would another good chance of silverware than hoping to start winning the rest of their La Liga games while Barcelona would have to drop points.

Real Madrid should have lost the game by even greater margins, they were totally dominated and outclassed by Arsenal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 09, 2025, 10:15:54 AM
For sure there are people who believe Arsenal could win against Real but I bet nobody expected it to be by this margin. No matter what team you are, it's never easy to come back from three goals down even with another full 90 minutes (leg 2). This match is going to be one of Arteta's career highlights.
In that match, Real Madrid played below what I expected. And Real Madrid's defeat in that match was actually not that surprising because Real Madrid had not played well in the last few matches. So I'm not surprised they played poorly in the UCL too. But the problem is that conceding 3 goals without being able to get even 1 goal back is indeed the worst for this team. Because it is clear that it will be difficult for Real Madrid to turn things around in the second leg. being left behind by an aggregate of 3 goals really requires a miracle to be able to turn it around again. And Arsenal could even score another goal in the second leg.

Arsenal in that match really played beyond expectations. Successfully scoring 3 goals against Real Madrid can be said to be a truly extraordinary achievement. And I like the way Declan Rice scores goals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on April 09, 2025, 11:34:00 AM
I didn't expect a defeat and above all, honestly, I didn't expect such a heavy defeat with 3 goals conceded.
I don't know why he's been playing so badly lately but I bet it's definitely due to an excessive load on the players.
You can't expect them to play all these games at the top.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 09, 2025, 11:50:41 AM
I didn't expect a defeat and above all, honestly, I didn't expect such a heavy defeat with 3 goals conceded.
I don't know why he's been playing so badly lately but I bet it's definitely due to an excessive load on the players.
You can't expect them to play all these games at the top.
Perhaps it could be a plausible reason where the overload of the players might be due to the tight schedule.
But they have to accept that worst defeat in a landslide, it could be that in the second leg they can take revenge but with 3 goals behind it is quite difficult.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 09, 2025, 11:56:10 AM
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Two games, two surprises. Both favourites lost tonight. Bayern's loss is minimal so they are still in play, although it might be hard to defeat Inter on their home turf.
Real Madrid is probably already out. I don't see Arsenal wasting a 3-goal advantage even if Real is much more dangerous at home. If the gunners stay focused next week, they will go through to the semi-finals.

Real Madrid makes me mad, they play shit football...but Inter makes me happy.
Inter played well away from home, showing strength and courage, and their performance was solid.
At the same competition 15 years later, the pleasure is still the same, maybe even more than last night, but this is just the first leg.
Inter will need to maintain the same level of intensity in the second leg, and I am confident in their ability to do so.


Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 09, 2025, 01:58:42 PM
It seems like everyone is currently still shocked by the results of yesterday's match where Bayern and Real Madrid, who were the favorites, apparently lost. But don't forget that today we also have two matches that will be equally fierce and interesting. Namely the Barcelona vs Dortmund match and the PSG vs Aston Villa match.

In today's two matches, I think I already have a favorite team, namely Barcelona and PSG. Well, I prefer to favor the home team in today's two matches. Because apart from being hosts, we know that Barcelona and PSG are also quite favorites compared to their opponents, namely Dortmund and Aston Villa.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Tribalchief on April 09, 2025, 02:46:35 PM
The most beautiful thing about football is that our predictions don't usually determines the result. The players on the pitch do the needful. The hype around Real Madrid is just too much. The same Madrid that is being over hyped was trashed by Barcelona twice this season. Liverpool did the same. Smaller teams also gave them a tough time. Arsenal and Real Madrid barely meet in UEFA competitions, so we can't really use their H2H to compare them. As it stands, Real Madrid does not have a perfect squad, and same thing goes for Arsenal as well. Liverpool were the favourite to win this title, but the unimaginable happened. it's football, the players will do the talking, while we sit back and enjoy the game.

It's interesting to see me quote my own text after discovering that what I said was never far from the truth. Beauty of football. The hunter becomes the haunted. Arsenal was never the underdog in this game. What a possessive game they had.

I'm not in shock, I saw it coming, though my expectation was reduced the moment Gabriel got injured few days back. I expected both sides to score, but one team ended up stealing the show. The two teams had struggled this season, but only showed the real strength and determination to win the game with enough goal margin.

A comeback is inevitable though, but what are the chances.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Promocodeudo on April 09, 2025, 04:36:32 PM
It seems like everyone is currently still shocked by the results of yesterday's match where Bayern and Real Madrid, who were the favorites, apparently lost. But don't forget that today we also have two matches that will be equally fierce and interesting. Namely the Barcelona vs Dortmund match and the PSG vs Aston Villa match.

In today's two matches, I think I already have a favorite team, namely Barcelona and PSG. Well, I prefer to favor the home team in today's two matches. Because apart from being hosts, we know that Barcelona and PSG are also quite favorites compared to their opponents, namely Dortmund and Aston Villa.

Yea you're right but in the game is no longer what it use to be, although football is one of those events that can end with surprises but I want having in that Realmadrid was going to lose 3:0 to arsenal, this is really disgraceful, the world giants in terms of football was disgraced by the gunners though shit happens and we shouldn't take to heart much because with both teams performance it will not be nice to see Realmadrid win such game reason being that arsenal was practically a better side and was very much ready to prove that they can actually do it, Realmadrid has to fix the house and check where the leakage is coming from and may be correct things as time goes by to avoid future repetition.

As for the games of today, Barcelona match may be full of goals because both side concedes and score goal too but barcelona may likely win the match, on the other hand PSG is also good but England teams are not to be joked with so I wouldn't want to give it all to PSG but let's see what both teams has to offer.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on April 09, 2025, 04:56:06 PM
Real Madrid makes me mad, they play shit football...but Inter makes me happy.
Inter played well away from home, showing strength and courage, and their performance was solid.
At the same competition 15 years later, the pleasure is still the same, maybe even more than last night, but this is just the first leg.
Inter will need to maintain the same level of intensity in the second leg, and I am confident in their ability to do so.

I think it's easier to say Real Madrid played in a shitty way but to be fair it was because Arsenal were just superior all round, Real Madrid have been playing this same way or even worse and getting away with it. Arsenal played with huge confidence and called Madrid's bluff, it easy to get carried away by how awful we think Real Madrid played, however, the honest reality is just that Arsenal were just rather the brilliant team in that game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr. Allcrypto on April 09, 2025, 09:18:18 PM
I didn't expect a defeat and above all, honestly, I didn't expect such a heavy defeat with 3 goals conceded.
I don't know why he's been playing so badly lately but I bet it's definitely due to an excessive load on the players.
You can't expect them to play all these games at the top.

I bet no one actually expected such heavy loss for the European champions although the bookies themselves must have had an insight to what's gonna play out in that game because the odds given to the North London team was little compared to their Spanish counter who were supposed to be better playing when it comes to the champions league but I all taught it was due to home advantage though but arsenal really prove themselves worthy of even taking home the trophy.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 09, 2025, 09:37:48 PM


They have won their games at home but so far, it was Laliga games they had very easy probably because it was a usual game with similar teams they are used to but Champions League brings different teams together to challenge each other and you might even be surprised the team you never expected to win might be the one to win.

Everyone never expected Liverpool to leave so soon but they were humble by PSG that doesn't go far in the Premier League, the pattern of  Champions league is no longer by how good you are, you can be good in your games and still lose here, only time will tell about Barcelona.

What I think is that Madrid this season has shown that they do not want to leave without the 16, Barcelona may be playing a lot, but in reality Madrid in the UCL is another thing, it is as if they were given a lot of power and they only used it there in the UCL, I am aware that Barcelona have won the classics, they are playing well, but in the last game of the League they drew with Real Betis, and that is something that gives Rise to a lot of Doubt, they are not invincible , and Madrid sees this, despite having their goalkeepers injured they still have a lot of heart, and have a lot to give, we have to wait and see how everything develops.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 09, 2025, 10:07:30 PM
Barcelona was able to score only one goal in the first half on the 25th minutes by Raphina after he got an assit from Cubarsi. They dominated the match and Dortmund was finding it difficult to penetrate their defense despite several attempts. The first half ended 1-0.

On the other hand Aston Villa opened the scoreline on the 35th minutes and four minutes later Duoe equalized the goal to end the first half 1-1.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on April 09, 2025, 10:29:45 PM
Barcelona was able to score only one goal in the first half on the 25th minutes by Raphina after he got an assit from Cubarsi. They dominated the match and Dortmund was finding it difficult to penetrate their defense despite several attempts. The first half ended 1-0.

On the other hand Aston Villa opened the scoreline on the 35th minutes and four minutes later Duoe equalized the goal to end the first half 1-1.

Barcelona have tripled their advantage with 2 goals from Lewandowski, and PSG on the other hand have completed the turnaround, they now lead 2-1 against Aston Villa.

Barcelona vs Dortmund without any drama looks like a done deal, but there is still time in game between Aston Villa and PSG, although I don’t think Villa can get another goal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 09, 2025, 10:55:58 PM
I was about to give a compliment to Aston Villa for keeping the score as close as possible and giving them a higher chance in the second leg but they conceded another goal late in the game. Being down 1-2 is a lot different from 1-3. Anyway, at least they didn't end up goalless.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on April 09, 2025, 11:13:26 PM
Barcelona have tripled their advantage with 2 goals from Lewandowski, and PSG on the other hand have completed the turnaround, they now lead 2-1 against Aston Villa.

Barcelona vs Dortmund without any drama looks like a done deal, but there is still time in game between Aston Villa and PSG, although I don’t think Villa can get another goal.
Barcelona is really amazing, their winning spirit and mentality are really high. I am increasingly convinced that they will be able to become the winner of ULC this season, competing with PSG in the final with great conviction.

The final result of the match between Barcelona vs Dortmund is final,
Barcelona 4 vs 0 Dortmund

Dormund really has no chance at all to be able to turn things around and even no chance to score any goal. How great and incredible Barcelona under Hansi Flick.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 09, 2025, 11:50:29 PM
~ I am increasingly convinced that they will be able to become the winner of ULC this season, competing with PSG in the final with great conviction.
Easy there ;D

Bayern lost the first leg against Inter but only by a single goal. They still have a chance at winning the second leg and, if they do, Barca will have a harder road to reach the Finals.

For the other side of the bracket, you're probably right that it will be PSG over Arsenal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 09, 2025, 11:52:26 PM
Dormund really has no chance at all to be able to turn things around and even no chance to score any goal. How great and incredible Barcelona under Hansi Flick.
Barcelona should be able to make it to the finals of the Champions League, but they need to be careful not to underestimate whoever wins the game between Bayern Munich and Inter Milan because oftentimes in this competition we've seen that there's also a measure of luck required to be able to win it, not just team performance alone.

Maybe it would be Barcelona versus Arsenal in the final of this Champions League competition.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 10, 2025, 12:57:55 AM
Two surprises yesterday, no surprises today.
Dortmund got absolutely dismantled by Barcelona and the rematch is only a formality. Lewandowski scored two and is now at 99 goals for Barcelona. I think it's very likely that he will make it to triple digits in the rematch with his former club, unless he does that sooner in the league game against Leganes on Saturday.

Aston Villa started really well and took a 1-0 lead but things went south from there. PSG ran them over and proved to be a superior team.

Anything is possible, but, realistically, we already know 3 semi-finalists and the only unknown is Bayern/Inter.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: TryNinja on April 10, 2025, 01:24:24 AM
Two surprises yesterday, no surprises today.
Dortmund got absolutely dismantled by Barcelona and the rematch is only a formality. Lewandowski scored two and is now at 99 goals for Barcelona. I think it's very likely that he will make it to triple digits in the rematch with his former club, unless he does that sooner in the league game against Leganes on Saturday.
Raphinha with the 1 goal and 2 assists... one of the best players in the world right now, playing very well. Sadly he can't do anything on the Brazilian national team along with Rodrygo and Vini Jr (how the hell do we got all those players and we suck so badly? :P)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 10, 2025, 12:08:47 PM
PSG, which was once doubted, has now turned into a very favorite team. Maybe in the initial phase we saw the bad track shown by PSG who almost didn't even qualify for the next stage. But after we saw PSG beat Liverpool we started to realize the true strength of PSG. And Liverpool even experienced quite a painful defeat at that time. Because PSG always dominates the match very well. And then yesterday PSG also did not disappoint because they also managed to beat Aston Villa. And that's in line with what I expect from PSG.

Apart from that, Barcelona also far exceeded what I expected from them. They broke into Dortmund's goal in an elegant way. As if Dortmund didn't have a strong defense. even though we all know Dortmund is a team whose defense is quite strong. But in front of Barcelona it seems that doesn't apply.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 10, 2025, 02:01:29 PM
Two surprises yesterday, no surprises today.
Dortmund got absolutely dismantled by Barcelona and the rematch is only a formality. Lewandowski scored two and is now at 99 goals for Barcelona. I think it's very likely that he will make it to triple digits in the rematch with his former club, unless he does that sooner in the league game against Leganes on Saturday.
Raphinha with the 1 goal and 2 assists... one of the best players in the world right now, playing very well. Sadly he can't do anything on the Brazilian national team along with Rodrygo and Vini Jr (how the hell do we got all those players and we suck so badly? :P)
Not surprised with Borussia Dortmund's defeat in this match, because this season they have problems and their opponents are in good form.

Borussia Dortmund could not do anything in this match, they could only see Barcelona dominate and they created many goals. Their hopes are very slim in the second leg, I don't think they can turn things around.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on April 10, 2025, 02:01:58 PM
(how the hell do we got all those players and we suck so badly? :P)

I think that’s where Team’s Chemistry comes into play, it shows that some times the best national teams are often with few players with extremely great individual attributes, instead almost everyone on the team complements each other to perform better collectively as a team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on April 10, 2025, 05:00:17 PM
Raphinha with the 1 goal and 2 assists... one of the best players in the world right now, playing very well. Sadly he can't do anything on the Brazilian national team along with Rodrygo and Vini Jr (how the hell do we got all those players and we suck so badly? :P)

Same question I keep asking myself about our national team ; we literally have some of the best players in Europe and Africa and yet we are still shit and about to lose our on another world cup qualifications. We've had more than 4 managers in the past 5 years and none could use all the world class in the team to good use.

Raphinha's redemption this season needs to be studied; this is someone who fans repeatedly asked to leave the club after last season, and the club was at one point willing to listen to offers--from a flop to literally the best player on the team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 10, 2025, 05:52:31 PM
Raphinha with the 1 goal and 2 assists... one of the best players in the world right now, playing very well. Sadly he can't do anything on the Brazilian national team along with Rodrygo and Vini Jr (how the hell do we got all those players and we suck so badly? :P)

Same question I keep asking myself about our national team ; we literally have some of the best players in Europe and Africa and yet we are still shit and about to lose our on another world cup qualifications. We've had more than 4 managers in the past 5 years and none could use all the world class in the team to good use.

Raphinha's redemption this season needs to be studied; this is someone who fans repeatedly asked to leave the club after last season, and the club was at one point willing to listen to offers--from a flop to literally the best player on the team.
What is the problem with this? I asked myself about the chaos of Brazil with the best players in Europe but they still struggled in the world cup.
Is the coach bad at tactics? Or is it that there are too many great players and they are selfish?

Raphinha did become a great player after a small club failed to shine.... he has found his true club, but that's thanks to Hans flick.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on April 10, 2025, 06:25:06 PM
Aston Villa started really well and took a 1-0 lead but things went south from there. PSG ran them over and proved to be a superior team.

Anything is possible, but, realistically, we already know 3 semi-finalists and the only unknown is Bayern/Inter.

I don't think anything untoward would happen in 3 of the 4 Quarter final games in the 2nd leg, even if some of the winners of the 1st leg should lose the 2nd leg matches, I think there is enough goal that would cover for any mishap that we could eventually witness. However, feel free to ignore my sentiment if we end up seeing some once in century comeback games.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on April 10, 2025, 06:38:33 PM
What is the problem with this? I asked myself about the chaos of Brazil with the best players in Europe but they still struggled in the world cup.
Is the coach bad at tactics? Or is it that there are too many great players and they are selfish?

Raphinha did become a great player after a small club failed to shine.... he has found his true club, but that's thanks to Hans flick.

When a team has too many individual players who care much about being in the spotlight, it ruin the team chemistry and becomes too difficult to manage.  It always difficult to have all the best players in a team - take a look at PSG; they're literally doing better than when they had Neymar, Messi and Mbappe on the team.

I don't think anything untoward would happen in 3 of the 4 Quarter final games in the 2nd leg, even if some of the winners of the 1st leg should lose the 2nd leg matches, I think there is enough goal that would cover for any mishap that we could eventually witness. However, feel free to ignore my sentiment if we end up seeing some once in century comeback games.

The only game we could see a bit of surprise comeback is Inter-Bayern and maybe a close game in Aston -PSG game too.  Arsenal and Barcelona already killed it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 10, 2025, 06:55:08 PM
What is the problem with this? I asked myself about the chaos of Brazil with the best players in Europe but they still struggled in the world cup.
Is the coach bad at tactics? Or is it that there are too many great players and they are selfish?

Raphinha did become a great player after a small club failed to shine.... he has found his true club, but that's thanks to Hans flick.

When a team has too many individual players who care much about being in the spotlight, it ruin the team chemistry and becomes too difficult to manage.  It always difficult to have all the best players in a team - take a look at PSG; they're literally doing better than when they had Neymar, Messi and Mbappe on the team.
You are right now PSG is playing much better than there is Messi, Neymar and Mbappe not getting better but even worse because there are too many centers of attention this may be a mess because it is difficult to manage by the coach.
Moreover, the class of Messi, who certainly had the top priority when he was at PSG.
I see now PSG is more promising in the Champion League now than the season before.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 10, 2025, 07:14:47 PM
Not surprised with Borussia Dortmund's defeat in this match, because this season they have problems and their opponents are in good form.

Borussia Dortmund could not do anything in this match, they could only see Barcelona dominate and they created many goals. Their hopes are very slim in the second leg, I don't think they can turn things around.
Dortmund is already 4 goals behind. And with an aggregate of 4 goals I think it is really almost impossible to improve in the second leg. because that means Dortmund must score at least 5 goals and with the condition that they cannot concede. And that is truly a hope that is difficult to achieve. Moreover, Barcelona, ​​which is very productive in scoring goals, will probably also score again in the second leg. So I think it is almost certain that Barcelona will progress to the next stage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 10, 2025, 08:09:38 PM
Real Madrid makes me mad, they play shit football...but Inter makes me happy.
Inter played well away from home, showing strength and courage, and their performance was solid.
At the same competition 15 years later, the pleasure is still the same, maybe even more than last night, but this is just the first leg.
Inter will need to maintain the same level of intensity in the second leg, and I am confident in their ability to do so.

I think it's easier to say Real Madrid played in a shitty way but to be fair it was because Arsenal were just superior all round, Real Madrid have been playing this same way or even worse and getting away with it. Arsenal played with huge confidence and called Madrid's bluff, it easy to get carried away by how awful we think Real Madrid played, however, the honest reality is just that Arsenal were just rather the brilliant team in that game.

Well, this is all just a personal viewpoint :)
Leg 1 Arsenal won, and it's a masterpiece by Rice, but don't fade Madrid yet
History shows that big teams like Madrid have comeback DNA. They have turned things around in crucial moments.
And Los Blancos have scored four goals in a game eight times at the Bernabeu this season. With a total of 67 goals in 26 home games, that shows incredible offensive power.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 10, 2025, 10:57:55 PM
Updated outright odds for the Champions League 2025 winner:

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/04/10/xmznw.png)

No surprise with Barcelona being the favourite, PSG is now the close second. If I had to bet, I'd probably go with either Inter or Bayern. Not because I see them as favourites, but because of the decent value of the odds. Both teams are not the best in the bunch, but they don't stand out too much and, with a bit of luck, could make it all the way.
Some could say that betting $1 on Dortmund just for the laugh could be worth it, but, in my opinion, that would be a wasted $1. They have zero chance of advancing to the semi-final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Joeboy on April 10, 2025, 11:21:22 PM
Real Madrid makes me mad, they play shit football...but Inter makes me happy.
Inter played well away from home, showing strength and courage, and their performance was solid.
At the same competition 15 years later, the pleasure is still the same, maybe even more than last night, but this is just the first leg.
Inter will need to maintain the same level of intensity in the second leg, and I am confident in their ability to do so.

I think it's easier to say Real Madrid played in a shitty way but to be fair it was because Arsenal were just superior all round, Real Madrid have been playing this same way or even worse and getting away with it. Arsenal played with huge confidence and called Madrid's bluff, it easy to get carried away by how awful we think Real Madrid played, however, the honest reality is just that Arsenal were just rather the brilliant team in that game.

Well, this is all just a personal viewpoint :)
Leg 1 Arsenal won, and it's a masterpiece by Rice, but don't fade Madrid yet
History shows that big teams like Madrid have comeback DNA. They have turned things around in crucial moments.
And Los Blancos have scored four goals in a game eight times at the Bernabeu this season. With a total of 67 goals in 26 home games, that shows incredible offensive power.
Madrid loss is very wide 3: 0 is a very wide gap, and I don't think they can recover from that or even equalize. The problem with Madrid really is their defense they have a hard time defending opponents, and if they can work on their defense am sure they can do better next time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on April 10, 2025, 11:27:35 PM
Barcelona should be able to make it to the finals of the Champions League, but they need to be careful not to underestimate whoever wins the game between Bayern Munich and Inter Milan because oftentimes in this competition we've seen that there's also a measure of luck required to be able to win it, not just team performance alone.
Yes, Barcelona is on fire. They won every match, they show everyone that they are one of the favorite team to win UCL. Sure, Inter Milan or Bayern Munich can be a strong opponent. But I really assume that Barcelona must reach the final round in this UCL. They are one of the strong candidates for the finalist.

Maybe it would be Barcelona versus Arsenal in the final of this Champions League competition.
I think it will be PSG vs Barcelona in the final UCL. I don't underestimate Arsenal because they seem to defeat Real Madrid. But I see that PSG is really convincing, they really show that they have a big hope for winning UCL trophy this season. PSG even may be the winner in this UCL.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on April 10, 2025, 11:35:00 PM
~ I am increasingly convinced that they will be able to become the winner of ULC this season, competing with PSG in the final with great conviction.
Easy there ;D

Bayern lost the first leg against Inter but only by a single goal. They still have a chance at winning the second leg and, if they do, Barca will have a harder road to reach the Finals.

For the other side of the bracket, you're probably right that it will be PSG over Arsenal.
I was so annoyed that I typed ULC, sorry, it's UCL.  ;D ;D

I don't know, although on the other hand, I sometimes still want to believe in Real Madrid's winning spirit, especially in the UCL, because several times they were able to make an epic comeback in the second leg, but that really doesn't want to hope much anymore, because of the situation they have now. ah,, there is a battle of feelings between wanting to continue supporting Real Madrid to advance to the final with a more realistic feeling about their current performance. that's a battle in here.

and well, PSG this time is very insistent on wanting the UCL trophy, so is Barcelona, ​​this will be exciting, but indeed back again, all of that will not go smoothly because anything can happen in UCL matches, and sometimes all situations in the future can be very surprising.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on April 10, 2025, 11:45:10 PM
Madrid loss is very wide 3: 0 is a very wide gap, and I don't think they can recover from that or even equalize. The problem with Madrid really is their defense they have a hard time defending opponents, and if they can work on their defense am sure they can do better next time.

3-0 is a huge margin to cover for any team even in their prime, and while some people are expecting some sort of miraculous comeback in the second leg, they’re not considering the fact that Arteta isn’t a kind of manager that also like to sit at back and defend, so whatever it is that Real Madrid could have planned, they’d still need to do some defending of their own too, it might even be easier to make a comeback against a team that’s expected to just sit back and defend, but how do you navigate that deficit against a team that’s most likely to attack you even more than you’re likely to do against them ?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 11, 2025, 12:49:08 AM
3-0 is a huge margin to cover for any team even in their prime, and while some people are expecting some sort of miraculous comeback in the second leg, they’re not considering the fact that Arteta isn’t a kind of manager that also like to sit at back and defend, so whatever it is that Real Madrid could have planned, they’d still need to do some defending of their own too, it might even be easier to make a comeback against a team that’s expected to just sit back and defend, but how do you navigate that deficit against a team that’s most likely to attack you even more than you’re likely to do against them ?
Our strategy should be to soak up any early pressure that they bring to ensure that we gain control of the game as we did in the first leg and not make silly mistakes. All players need to understand that the job is not yet done, and they also need to give their all in the 2nd leg, which will be more difficult than the first.

If we win them home and away, we will have increased confidence.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 11, 2025, 02:36:28 PM
Not surprised with Borussia Dortmund's defeat in this match, because this season they have problems and their opponents are in good form.

Borussia Dortmund could not do anything in this match, they could only see Barcelona dominate and they created many goals. Their hopes are very slim in the second leg, I don't think they can turn things around.
Dortmund is already 4 goals behind. And with an aggregate of 4 goals I think it is really almost impossible to improve in the second leg. because that means Dortmund must score at least 5 goals and with the condition that they cannot concede. And that is truly a hope that is difficult to achieve. Moreover, Barcelona, ​​which is very productive in scoring goals, will probably also score again in the second leg. So I think it is almost certain that Barcelona will progress to the next stage.
Everyone must think it is impossible, because they have to score at least 4 goals and that too without conceding to take the match to extra time.

But the opponent they face is not an opponent who will stand still, they will definitely try to increase the aggregate, especially since we know Barcelona is also in good condition, so I think they will still score goals in the second leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 11, 2025, 06:05:25 PM
PSG might me doing great this season in the league and Champions League, but, due to the legal feud they have with their former star and currently Real Madrid striker, Kylian Mbappe, they might be at risk of UCL ban next season, as the UK media, the Mirror reports:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/kylian-mbappe-psg-champions-league-35038845

Apparently Mbappe is still owed 55 million Euros and, according to Reuters, some of the PSG's bank accounts have been frozen:
https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/mbappes-legal-team-say-several-psg-accounts-frozen-salary-dispute-escalates-2025-04-10

I'm not sure what the current finances of the club look like, but I don't expect it will have a major impact on them, although if they are forced to pay everything at once, it could cause temporary liquidity problems.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 11, 2025, 06:32:54 PM
3-0 is a huge margin to cover for any team even in their prime, and while some people are expecting some sort of miraculous comeback in the second leg, they’re not considering the fact that Arteta isn’t a kind of manager that also like to sit at back and defend, so whatever it is that Real Madrid could have planned, they’d still need to do some defending of their own too, it might even be easier to make a comeback against a team that’s expected to just sit back and defend, but how do you navigate that deficit against a team that’s most likely to attack you even more than you’re likely to do against them ?
Our strategy should be to soak up any early pressure that they bring to ensure that we gain control of the game as we did in the first leg and not make silly mistakes. All players need to understand that the job is not yet done, and they also need to give their all in the 2nd leg, which will be more difficult than the first.

If we win them home and away, we will have increased confidence.
There's no way Real Madrid can do anything but keep attacking and not let their defense slip - because Arsenal can counter-attack under any circumstances.
We trust Ancelotti for the second leg even though it's a bit tough now, but at least if Real Madrid still wins under 3 goals they will still hurt.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 11, 2025, 06:52:32 PM
There's no way Real Madrid can do anything but keep attacking and not let their defense slip - because Arsenal can counter-attack under any circumstances.
We trust Ancelotti for the second leg even though it's a bit tough now, but at least if Real Madrid still wins under 3 goals they will still hurt.
No one ever expected that Real Madrid would lose by a big score to Arsenal in that match. Even though there might be people who think Arsenal can win, no one expected that score. And I didn't even expect Real Madrid to be unable to reply to a goal in that match. Even though Real Madrid have great players in their squad, to be honest, Real Madrid's attack pattern is good, but the way this team makes solutions is quite monotonous, aka easy to read. So it was natural that Arsenal's goal could not be penetrated by Real Madrid in the end even though the defense had been passed.

In the second leg, all Real Madrid fans will certainly hope that Real Madrid will turn things around as usual. But I personally see an aggregate of 3 goals as quite difficult to catch. But just because it's difficult doesn't mean it's impossible. It's just that it's a pretty small chance.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on April 11, 2025, 09:31:27 PM
Our strategy should be to soak up any early pressure that they bring to ensure that we gain control of the game as we did in the first leg and not make silly mistakes. All players need to understand that the job is not yet done, and they also need to give their all in the 2nd leg, which will be more difficult than the first.

If we win them home and away, we will have increased confidence.

The only mistake Arsenal and Artate would make in the second leg is to come with the mindset of playing safe and deep instead of trying to win the game; the best form of defence is attacking, and they must ensure that they do not concede first or concede far too early, giving Real Madrid confidence to come for the second.

Arsenal play much better than Madrid, and if they replicate their performance in the second leg, Madrid will have no hope of a comeback.  It going to be a goal galore game for sure.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on April 11, 2025, 09:39:44 PM
3-0 is a huge margin to cover for any team even in their prime, and while some people are expecting some sort of miraculous comeback in the second leg, they’re not considering the fact that Arteta isn’t a kind of manager that also like to sit at back and defend, so whatever it is that Real Madrid could have planned, they’d still need to do some defending of their own too, it might even be easier to make a comeback against a team that’s expected to just sit back and defend, but how do you navigate that deficit against a team that’s most likely to attack you even more than you’re likely to do against them ?
Our strategy should be to soak up any early pressure that they bring to ensure that we gain control of the game as we did in the first leg and not make silly mistakes. All players need to understand that the job is not yet done, and they also need to give their all in the 2nd leg, which will be more difficult than the first.

If we win them home and away, we will have increased confidence.
There's no way Real Madrid can do anything but keep attacking and not let their defense slip - because Arsenal can counter-attack under any circumstances.
We trust Ancelotti for the second leg even though it's a bit tough now, but at least if Real Madrid still wins under 3 goals they will still hurt.

It's easier said than done, when a team is desperate and they attacking heavily they become highly susceptible to being caught off-guard on a counter attack, and for a team like Arsenal with players like Saka and Gabriel Martinelli on the flank, you really can't keep both of these players at bay when they've got a lot of space to exploit. It will be an interesting game all together, I'm very curious to see what approach/tactics Ancelotti is going to deploy for this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on April 11, 2025, 10:30:39 PM
It's easier said than done, when a team is desperate and they attacking heavily they become highly susceptible to being caught off-guard on a counter attack, and for a team like Arsenal with players like Saka and Gabriel Martinelli on the flank, you really can't keep both of these players at bay when they've got a lot of space to exploit. It will be an interesting game all together, I'm very curious to see what approach/tactics Ancelotti is going to deploy for this match.

Maybe return Mbappe to the LW and play Vini as false 9 and attack heavily from the wings since Partey and Rice can't be penetrated in the middle. The Madrid midfield was completely locked out in the first leg.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on April 11, 2025, 10:48:34 PM
There's no way Real Madrid can do anything but keep attacking and not let their defense slip - because Arsenal can counter-attack under any circumstances.
We trust Ancelotti for the second leg even though it's a bit tough now, but at least if Real Madrid still wins under 3 goals they will still hurt.

Real Madrid way of winning games in their home is when their opponents teams focuses on defense more than they do in attack, that's when they unleash all their power and attack them until they break through them and if they are able to score the first goal, the rest of the goal will not be difficult got them to equalized and add extra goal or go for penalty.

It's been long since one has witness Arsenal presence on Real Madrid matches but they didn't do well in the second leg of their knockout with PSV, if they repeat what they did back then, I think Real Madrid can have a chance on them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 11, 2025, 11:45:17 PM
I think Real Madrid can have a chance on them.
There is always a chance for Real Madrid, but do you think that there is a better chance for Real Madrid with midfielder Dani Ceballos's return? Camavinga, who played in the midfield for Real Madrid, will be absent in the second half after the red card. Ceballos may actually increase their chances.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Asiska02 on April 11, 2025, 11:46:26 PM
3-0 is a huge margin to cover for any team even in their prime, and while some people are expecting some sort of miraculous comeback in the second leg, they’re not considering the fact that Arteta isn’t a kind of manager that also like to sit at back and defend, so whatever it is that Real Madrid could have planned, they’d still need to do some defending of their own too, it might even be easier to make a comeback against a team that’s expected to just sit back and defend, but how do you navigate that deficit against a team that’s most likely to attack you even more than you’re likely to do against them ?

This is a very important question and Real Madrid shouldn’t feel relaxed that when they put little pressure in the match, they’re going to prevail easily against Arsenal. They are not a very small team you can look down on and even when the draws was made, Arsenal was the kind of the silent killer team that was just doing their stuffs without any room for panic, so they really caught Real Madrid off guard and easily took advantage of the opportunities they got. Arsenal will attack as much as Real Madrid will also do, but the best team that will likely take the victory in the end is the one that will have the stronger defence in this match while also putting in the pressure for an attacking game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 12, 2025, 08:07:31 AM
The only mistake Arsenal and Artate would make in the second leg is to come with the mindset of playing safe and deep instead of trying to win the game; the best form of defence is attacking, and they must ensure that they do not concede first or concede far too early, giving Real Madrid confidence to come for the second.

Arsenal play much better than Madrid, and if they replicate their performance in the second leg, Madrid will have no hope of a comeback.  It going to be a goal galore game for sure.
You are right, if Arsenal repeats the same attacking strategy, namely the same as in the first leg, then there is no doubt that Arsenal can win, but if it turns out that Arsenal plays it safe by being more defensive then that will only give Real Madrid more attacking opportunities. And we know that when Real Madrid are given many opportunities to attack, turning things around is not impossible for this team. So Arteta has to really think about this.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on April 12, 2025, 09:57:12 PM
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You are right, if Arsenal repeats the same attacking strategy, namely the same as in the first leg, then there is no doubt that Arsenal can win, but if it turns out that Arsenal plays it safe by being more defensive then that will only give Real Madrid more attacking opportunities. And we know that when Real Madrid are given many opportunities to attack, turning things around is not impossible for this team. So Arteta has to really think about this.

Real Madrid are certainly going to win at home but the goal margin won't be enough to qualify them on aggregate. BTS + Over 2.5 seems like a decent market or BTS + Madrid win.

Not getting a single goal at Emirates is going to hurt them so badly in the second leg;I haven't seen a side come back from a 3-0 deficit in the Champions League in a long time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Wiwo on April 13, 2025, 09:38:54 PM
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You are right, if Arsenal repeats the same attacking strategy, namely the same as in the first leg, then there is no doubt that Arsenal can win, but if it turns out that Arsenal plays it safe by being more defensive then that will only give Real Madrid more attacking opportunities. And we know that when Real Madrid are given many opportunities to attack, turning things around is not impossible for this team. So Arteta has to really think about this.


Real Madrid are certainly going to win at home but the goal margin won't be enough to qualify them on aggregate. BTS + Over 2.5 seems like a decent market or BTS + Madrid win.

Not getting a single goal at Emirates is going to hurt them so badly in the second leg;I haven't seen a side come back from a 3-0 deficit in the Champions League in a long time.
It's such a big blow for Real Madrid from the Emirates and this will affect their overall position since Arsenal is practically waiting for them in the other leagues which makes their motivation to recover very low.

But the fact that Arsenal is still very far behind in winning this season makes the whole season a subject of speculation as to who will win because almost all the top clubs ant willing to give it up this time around.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 14, 2025, 11:40:58 AM
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You are right, if Arsenal repeats the same attacking strategy, namely the same as in the first leg, then there is no doubt that Arsenal can win, but if it turns out that Arsenal plays it safe by being more defensive then that will only give Real Madrid more attacking opportunities. And we know that when Real Madrid are given many opportunities to attack, turning things around is not impossible for this team. So Arteta has to really think about this.

Real Madrid are certainly going to win at home but the goal margin won't be enough to qualify them on aggregate. BTS + Over 2.5 seems like a decent market or BTS + Madrid win.

Not getting a single goal at Emirates is going to hurt them so badly in the second leg;I haven't seen a side come back from a 3-0 deficit in the Champions League in a long time.
At least hoping that both teams score is the best thing to bet on. Because it feels like there will be more than two goals in this match. And each one will create a goal. And because Real Madrid is playing at home, hoping for Real Madrid to win is also a good choice.
Another match that might be a match where both teams can score is the Aston Villa vs PSG match. Like in the first leg, I don't think the second leg will be much different.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pieppiep on April 14, 2025, 11:08:42 PM
At least hoping that both teams score is the best thing to bet on. Because it feels like there will be more than two goals in this match. And each one will create a goal. And because Real Madrid is playing at home, hoping for Real Madrid to win is also a good choice.
Another match that might be a match where both teams can score is the Aston Villa vs PSG match. Like in the first leg, I don't think the second leg will be much different.
Often, we are quite certain that there is always a tendency that the result of a certain match can be determined by its past performance. When two representatives of the strongest leagues of a country come across the line, the fans are bound to expect an open game. This is, of course, the logical misconception of probability experienced sometimes especially when all probability predictions cannot be made based on past outcomes. The minor events including shinny of some important player or some other change in strategies also makes the game turn out in this or that way. There will be a lot of goals, but they can be few, the game may turn to be closed and very cautious. It is natural that people would love high scoring games especially where the two ruling teams are perceived to be aggressive, but still we need to leave room for different possibilities that make the assessment not to be inclined to a certain direction.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 14, 2025, 11:28:47 PM
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You are right, if Arsenal repeats the same attacking strategy, namely the same as in the first leg, then there is no doubt that Arsenal can win, but if it turns out that Arsenal plays it safe by being more defensive then that will only give Real Madrid more attacking opportunities. And we know that when Real Madrid are given many opportunities to attack, turning things around is not impossible for this team. So Arteta has to really think about this.

Real Madrid are certainly going to win at home but the goal margin won't be enough to qualify them on aggregate. BTS + Over 2.5 seems like a decent market or BTS + Madrid win.

Not getting a single goal at Emirates is going to hurt them so badly in the second leg;I haven't seen a side come back from a 3-0 deficit in the Champions League in a long time.
Yeah, Arsenal are probably just going to get one goal early one and defend most of the time. Unless they lose their cool head and get a red or the ref gives soft calls that benefits Real, the Gunners are almost certain to move to the next round.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 14, 2025, 11:35:47 PM
Yeah, Arsenal are probably just going to get one goal early one and defend most of the time. Unless they lose their cool head and get a red or the ref gives soft calls that benefits Real, the Gunners are almost certain to move to the next round.
At this point the game will be very unpredictable, but what we just hope for Arsenal and supporters of the club is that they do not concede a penalty or an early goal and also do not get a red card in the game, at least earlier on.
 If Arsenal can manage the second leg properly and not relax with the mindset of a job done, we will send Real Madrid, the title defenders, home.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on April 15, 2025, 01:40:58 AM
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You are right, if Arsenal repeats the same attacking strategy, namely the same as in the first leg, then there is no doubt that Arsenal can win, but if it turns out that Arsenal plays it safe by being more defensive then that will only give Real Madrid more attacking opportunities. And we know that when Real Madrid are given many opportunities to attack, turning things around is not impossible for this team. So Arteta has to really think about this.

Real Madrid are certainly going to win at home but the goal margin won't be enough to qualify them on aggregate. BTS + Over 2.5 seems like a decent market or BTS + Madrid win.

Not getting a single goal at Emirates is going to hurt them so badly in the second leg;I haven't seen a side come back from a 3-0 deficit in the Champions League in a long time.
Real Madrid is going to play with alot of pressure, which is not a good one. 3 goals is not an easy task to upturn, unless Real Madrid is going to rely on so many armies such as;

But on a normal match, the comeback is near impossible
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 15, 2025, 08:18:51 AM
At least hoping that both teams score is the best thing to bet on. Because it feels like there will be more than two goals in this match. And each one will create a goal. And because Real Madrid is playing at home, hoping for Real Madrid to win is also a good choice.
Another match that might be a match where both teams can score is the Aston Villa vs PSG match. Like in the first leg, I don't think the second leg will be much different.
Often, we are quite certain that there is always a tendency that the result of a certain match can be determined by its past performance. When two representatives of the strongest leagues of a country come across the line, the fans are bound to expect an open game. This is, of course, the logical misconception of probability experienced sometimes especially when all probability predictions cannot be made based on past outcomes. The minor events including shinny of some important player or some other change in strategies also makes the game turn out in this or that way. There will be a lot of goals, but they can be few, the game may turn to be closed and very cautious. It is natural that people would love high scoring games especially where the two ruling teams are perceived to be aggressive, but still we need to leave room for different possibilities that make the assessment not to be inclined to a certain direction.
Well situations like that sometimes happen. Like Arsenal, who currently benefits greatly because they have an aggregate advantage of 3 goals. So there will definitely be those who think that Arsenal will play more defensively so that they don't have the potential to concede goals. But there are also those who still think Arsenal will stick with the extraordinary attacking strategy like in the first leg. Well, everything is uncertain. Everything will be clear shortly before the match starts when all teams have decided what formation to use.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on April 15, 2025, 05:37:06 PM
Yeah, Arsenal are probably just going to get one goal early one and defend most of the time. Unless they lose their cool head and get a red or the ref gives soft calls that benefits Real, the Gunners are almost certain to move to the next round.
At this point the game will be very unpredictable, but what we just hope for Arsenal and supporters of the club is that they do not concede a penalty or an early goal and also do not get a red card in the game, at least earlier on.
 If Arsenal can manage the second leg properly and not relax with the mindset of a job done, we will send Real Madrid, the title defenders, home.

Real Madrid would likely want to start the game in a very fast and pacy manner, all Arsenal needs is proper game management and make sure they also convert their chances whenever they get it. If Arsenal can manage to keep Real Madrid at bay for the first 30 minutes of the game and also able to create chances of their own, Real Madrid will have no choice but to also defend.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 15, 2025, 08:21:03 PM
Real Madrid is going to play with alot of pressure, which is not a good one. 3 goals is not an easy task to upturn, unless Real Madrid is going to rely on so many armies such as;
  • Referee
  • VAR

But on a normal match, the comeback is near impossible

You're so cynical, like it can't happen. If someone says Madrid GK will concede 2 free kicks before the match, even you will not believe it. But that's football.
First-leg Arsenal scored 2 goals from free kicks and one from open play. It's a special player ability (Rice) that gave Arsenal the win. 2nd leg Madrid can play shit too and score 2 direct freekicks and a corner kick as well.
No one stopped a good free kick, and it's never anybody's fault. Just like Rice's kicks can't be stopped, the same could happen to Arsenal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on April 15, 2025, 08:31:53 PM
Real Madrid is going to play with alot of pressure, which is not a good one. 3 goals is not an easy task to upturn, unless Real Madrid is going to rely on so many armies such as;
  • Referee
  • VAR

But on a normal match, the comeback is near impossible

Real Madrid is 3 goals down and we all that is not an easy thing for Real Madrid to bounce back in the second leg. Many people have confident that Real Madrid can make a comeback in the second leg but we should all know that seasons are not the same, this is not the last 3 seasons were Real Madrid made a comeback against Manchester City.

Even though Real Madrid rely on referee that cannot help them beat Arsenal, except they give what it takes to play at their best level. This is not the same Arsenal we watched the previous season, I got surprised with their first leg performance, they might even win the second leg but nobody can tell.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on April 15, 2025, 08:33:47 PM
The lineups have been released, the only changes for Barcelona from the 1st leg is Gerard Martin replacing injured Balde and Gavi coming into the midfield to replace Pedri, this change looks more like a conservative approach for Hansi Flick, since Gavi is more defensively minded midfielder compared to Pedri.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on April 15, 2025, 08:45:13 PM
Real Madrid is going to play with alot of pressure, which is not a good one. 3 goals is not an easy task to upturn, unless Real Madrid is going to rely on so many armies such as;
  • Referee
  • VAR

But on a normal match, the comeback is near impossible

Real Madrid is 3 goals down and we all that is not an easy thing for Real Madrid to bounce back in the second leg. Many people have confident that Real Madrid can make a comeback in the second leg but we should all know that seasons are not the same, this is not the last 3 seasons were Real Madrid made a comeback against Manchester City.

Even though Real Madrid rely on referee that cannot help them beat Arsenal, except they give what it takes to play at their best level. This is not the same Arsenal we watched the previous season, I got surprised with their first leg performance, they might even win the second leg but nobody can tell.
I agree with you that this is not the same Arsenal we watched the previous season, will you also agree with me that this is not the same Real Madrid we watched last season. Both teams got weaker this season but I believe Arsenal is in more good shape now than Real Madrid. I said this because Saka is back from injury which was a major boost for Arsenal. Unlike Real Madrid that has all the stars available at the front but they will not stop competing among themselves.
Real Madrid was at the top of the Laliga table but within a few matches, Barcelona went ahead of them. So, Arsenal has more team chemistry than Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 15, 2025, 10:09:59 PM
The lineups have been released, the only changes for Barcelona from the 1st leg is Gerard Martin replacing injured Balde and Gavi coming into the midfield to replace Pedri, this change looks more like a conservative approach for Hansi Flick, since Gavi is more defensively minded midfielder compared to Pedri.
The first half ended in the favor of Dortmund as they scored only one goal with a penalty. However Dortmund played impressively with a strong defense which made Barcelona uncomfortable on the pitch. The second half has just begun, let's see if Dortmund will still be in their best performance like they did in the second half.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Roseline492 on April 15, 2025, 10:58:34 PM
The first half ended in the favor of Dortmund as they scored only one goal with a penalty. However Dortmund played impressively with a strong defense which made Barcelona uncomfortable on the pitch. The second half has just begun, let's see if Dortmund will still be in their best performance like they did in the second half.

What is happening today on this champions League because I don't understand imagine how strong is Barcelona and they are conceiving this much to Borussia Dortmund, currently is 3:1 against the Barcelona and the only luck they had was the aggregate they had from the last match if not they would have been seeing the impact by now because this 3 goals for Borussia Dortmund would have beaten Barcelona entirely but even on this goals they still have 3 to 5 aggregate against Borussia Dortmund, Barcelona is not inform today.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on April 15, 2025, 11:00:50 PM
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Both PSG and Barcelona got a defeat today but they still qualify for the next round. We have 2 teams in the semi-final round, it will be interesting to see PSG and Barcelona because these teams perform well in UCL this season. We are also possible to see these teams in the final because they look like to play other teams in the semi-final round. Congrats for PSG and Barcelona fans!!

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on April 16, 2025, 12:07:22 AM
What is happening today on this champions League because I don't understand imagine how strong is Barcelona and they are conceiving this much to Borussia Dortmund, currently is 3:1 against the Barcelona and the only luck they had was the aggregate they had from the last match if not they would have been seeing the impact by now because this 3 goals for Borussia Dortmund would have beaten Barcelona entirely but even on this goals they still have 3 to 5 aggregate against Borussia Dortmund, Barcelona is not inform today.

I was disappointed by Barcelona performance tonight, I can't believe it was the same team who destroyed Dortmund in the first leg. I looked into the Barcelona team and discovered that all of the key players were available, yet they failed to do anything against Dortmund. They did not score a single goal throughout the match, and the one they score was an own goal.

If Dortmund had used the same energy in the first leg, I am confident they would not have conceded up to four goals. They conceded a lot of goals, which is why they failed to recover in the second leg. Barcelona only had two shots on target in the second leg, while Dortmund has eleven.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on April 16, 2025, 01:01:29 AM
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source: google

Both PSG and Barcelona got a defeat today but they still qualify for the next round. We have 2 teams in the semi-final round, it will be interesting to see PSG and Barcelona because these teams perform well in UCL this season. We are also possible to see these teams in the final because they look like to play other teams in the semi-final round. Congrats for PSG and Barcelona fans!!

It really would have been interesting if both PSG and Barcelona had not won the first leg by a decent margin, because for both Dortmund and Aston Villa to win, it only means they probably would have forced extra time if the margin were slimmer. That’s why it’s always important to score as many goals as you possibly can if the first leg if you have the chance because nobody knows what could transpire in the second leg.

Tomorrow, we have another set of matches with teams that would also attempt a second leg comeback of their own too.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 16, 2025, 01:23:18 PM
Great showing by Aston Villa in the second half. I thought they were already done after allowing two early goals they surely gave PSG a run for their money. The momentum was on their side and they had plenty of time to send the game into extra time but they fell short.

It was also unfortunate for Dortmund to concede with an own goal just when they were starting to close the gap.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 16, 2025, 03:13:25 PM
If Dortmund had used the same energy in the first leg, I am confident they would not have conceded up to four goals. They conceded a lot of goals, which is why they failed to recover in the second leg. Barcelona only had two shots on target in the second leg, while Dortmund has eleven.
In the second leg, Dortmund had very high motivation to win in front of their own supporters. And in the second leg I saw that Barcelona was also not that aggressive in building attacks. Not like in the first leg. So Dortmund took advantage of this to be able to attack more into Barcelona's defense area. Dortmund did play better than in the first leg. But well, their journey must end here. But Dortmund have given what they can give in this match. So even though they didn't qualify for the next stage, I think Dortmund got respect from everyone who enjoyed their game in the second leg. Even though they didn't make it through to the next stage, Dortmund didn't disappoint in the game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 16, 2025, 04:08:04 PM
Great showing by Aston Villa in the second half. I thought they were already done after allowing two early goals they surely gave PSG a run for their money. The momentum was on their side and they had plenty of time to send the game into extra time but they fell short.


What a fight! Lost 1-3 in Paris. Left behind 0-2 in 30 minutes of the 1st half and then came back 3-2 with 23 minutes remaining of the 2nd half. The scoreboard, as cruel as it can be, doesn’t always tell the full story. But those who watched this match didn’t just see a team — they witnessed warriors. Villa may be out of the Champions League, but they made the world believe in football again. Aston Villa didn’t lose. They left a mark.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 16, 2025, 04:17:33 PM
In today's match, it is a match

- Real Madrid vs Arsenal
- Inter Milan vs Bayern Munich

Do you think there will be any surprises in these matches? Like Real Madrid who turned out to be successful in turning things around or Inter Milan who turned out to be successful in beating Bayern again?

I think Real Madrid will only win but will not qualify for the next stage. Meanwhile, for the Inter Milan vs Bayern match. So it's not certain. But I hope Inter Milan progresses to the next stage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 16, 2025, 06:24:36 PM
Yesterday's round brought no surprises in terms of who got qualified, but it shed some light on possible vulnerabilities of two clubs that were/are considered favourites.
Both PSG and Barcelona conceded 3 goals each, proving their defences are not as solid as some could think and that both can be defeated. Of course, they might not have played at their 100% due to the advantage from the 1st leg, but it's not like they lost on purpose. And, for PSG, the last minutes were pretty stressful as Villa was close to equalising.
With this in mind, while betting on the outright winner, it wouldn't be a bad idea to bet on underdogs.

As for today's round, I think betting on Real to win is a fairly safe option. I don't think they will qualify, but a minimal win is the most likely outcome.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on April 16, 2025, 08:59:10 PM
What a fight! Lost 1-3 in Paris. Left behind 0-2 in 30 minutes of the 1st half and then came back 3-2 with 23 minutes remaining of the 2nd half. The scoreboard, as cruel as it can be, doesn’t always tell the full story. But those who watched this match didn’t just see a team — they witnessed warriors. Villa may be out of the Champions League, but they made the world believe in football again. Aston Villa didn’t lose. They left a mark.

I like it when I see team dedication, Aston Villa really shows they are the best to be in that position to the Champions League, PSG was even lucky to score a goal in their home otherwise they would have lost because only one goal was what mad them to lose from going to extra time or maybe even penalty where they can get luck to go to quarter final.

Even Dortmund put a good fight but no way they are going to win Barcelona when they have put everything they had in the first leg, they are already seeing their self in the final and not just the semi final. Now, I want to see what Real Madrid are going to play with Arsenal tonight.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Roseline492 on April 16, 2025, 09:49:44 PM
In today's match, it is a match

- Real Madrid vs Arsenal
- Inter Milan vs Bayern Munich

I'm afraid that the fight back we thought Real Madrid will have against Arsenal has not been so because they have not score any goals, if they had come with a serious fight back by now they would have been winning 1 or 2 goals by now, is almost the end of the first half and there hasn't been any goal, so Arsenal is very happy because all they need as the second half is starting is to to only defend as they are currently doing and they will sent out real Madrid. Inter Milan and Bayern Munich are also playing goalless now.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on April 16, 2025, 09:59:24 PM
Real Madrid Vs Arsenal HT

First half is over and the dream of Real Madrid qualifying against the 3 goals advantaged Arsenal is becoming so blurred despite that Saka missed a penalty kick.
In champions league, try your best not to concede more than 2 goals if you want to proceed to the next stage.

I don't think that Real Madrid who is unable to register a goal in the first 45mins will be able to score 4 in the remaining 45mins.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 16, 2025, 10:23:52 PM
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I don't think that Real Madrid who is unable to register a goal in the first 45mins will be able to score 4 in the remaining 45mins.
Forget about four goals for now, just three to extend the game or go to penalties. . . but yeah, it seems even scoring one is such a huge task for Real Madrid players right now. This is probably one of their worst performance in their rich CL history (both legs).
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on April 16, 2025, 10:50:48 PM
I think it is time for Real Madrid to say good bye for UCL. There is no enough time to equalize the aggregate. It is almost 90 minute, Real Madrid only could score 1 goal. Meanwhile Arsenal scored again 1 goal. It means Arsenal is leading with 3 goals difference. Well, it is quite disappointed to see Real Madrid eliminated in this phase.

For the match Inter vs Bayern Munich, it seems Inter will go to the next round. The match will be over very soon, Inter is leading with 1 goal difference.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 16, 2025, 11:08:30 PM
I think it is time for Real Madrid to say good bye for UCL. There is no enough time to equalize the aggregate. It is almost 90 minute, Real Madrid only could score 1 goal. Meanwhile Arsenal scored again 1 goal. It means Arsenal is leading with 3 goals difference. Well, it is quite disappointed to see Real Madrid eliminated in this phase.

For the match Inter vs Bayern Munich, it seems Inter will go to the next round. The match will be over very soon, Inter is leading with 1 goal difference.
Bruuhh Real Madrid lost in the end how Arteta felt overthrowing the big team and did not expect a sizable aggregate score of up to 5-1 because at the time of this match Arsenal won back 2-1 over Madrid.

The second match was Inter Milan who qualified on a slim aggregate.
The Serie A representatives are really strong now and they will meet Barcelona again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on April 16, 2025, 11:11:01 PM
In today's match, it is a match

- Real Madrid vs Arsenal
- Inter Milan vs Bayern Munich

Do you think there will be any surprises in these matches? Like Real Madrid who turned out to be successful in turning things around or Inter Milan who turned out to be successful in beating Bayern again?

I think Real Madrid will only win but will not qualify for the next stage. Meanwhile, for the Inter Milan vs Bayern match. So it's not certain. But I hope Inter Milan progresses to the next stage.
Even winning today's match, Real Madrid didn't get that in their home against Arsenal. Arsenal ended up winning them by 1-2, which is serve as a disgrace for Real Madrid not even winning Arsenal at home.

However, this is pure match disgrace to Real Madrid. The expectations of people was for them to win Arsenal at least not to make matter worst to lose in their home. That's embarrassing
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on April 16, 2025, 11:14:51 PM
Congratulations to:
Barcelona
Inter Milan
PSG
Arsenal

as the clubs that finally advanced to the 2025 UCL Semi Finals. Yes, as predicted based on the results of the first leg. and in the end, Real Madrid was eliminated miserably because even in the second leg, they lost to Arsenal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on April 16, 2025, 11:16:09 PM
I'm afraid that the fight back we thought Real Madrid will have against Arsenal has not been so because they have not score any goals, if they had come with a serious fight back by now they would have been winning 1 or 2 goals by now, is almost the end of the first half and there hasn't been any goal, so Arsenal is very happy because all they need as the second half is starting is to to only defend as they are currently doing and they will sent out real Madrid. Inter Milan and Bayern Munich are also playing goalless now.

This is why when you are making bet for Real Madrid in a situation when they want to make come back, make sure it is against them. I saw sweet 4 off for Arsenal that I would have use to make good money this night but because I expected Real Madrid to try hard and win today's match even though they might not equalized all the goals but I was wrong. I lost money tonight.

It will be sad though that Real Madrid will not be having Laliga and wouldn't be having Champions League, in fact I love the Way Arsenal has exposed the fraud club, they are just good in making noises, nothing to show.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on April 16, 2025, 11:19:00 PM
I think it is time for Real Madrid to say good bye for UCL. There is no enough time to equalize the aggregate. It is almost 90 minute, Real Madrid only could score 1 goal. Meanwhile Arsenal scored again 1 goal. It means Arsenal is leading with 3 goals difference. Well, it is quite disappointed to see Real Madrid eliminated in this phase.

For the match Inter vs Bayern Munich, it seems Inter will go to the next round. The match will be over very soon, Inter is leading with 1 goal difference.

Arsenal ended up defeating Real Madrid home and away, maybe winning today at the Santiago Bernabeu wasn't what I foresaw for Arsenal tonight but I must commend Arsenal's resilience and character throughout the entire game, they didn't succumb to any form of pressure and played like they were the favorites or at least equals not the underdogs. It was a well deserved spot in the semifinal for them, even though another tough task awaits.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on April 16, 2025, 11:59:51 PM
Congratulations to:
Barcelona
Inter Milan
PSG
Arsenal

as the clubs that finally advanced to the 2025 UCL Semi Finals. Yes, as predicted based on the results of the first leg. and in the end, Real Madrid was eliminated miserably because even in the second leg, they lost to Arsenal.
Those 4 teams have been qualified to semi-final. We will have the next matches (Arsenal vs PSG, Barcelona vs Inter Milan). Yes, Real Madrid is defeated by Arsenal, they can't continue to expect the next UCL title. So Mbappe fails to win UCL this season. I assume PSG may reach the final and they are possible to win UCL title. If this comes true, I think Mbappe may feel a bit regretful with his decision to move to Real Madrid.  :D

Anyway which team do you think to go to the final round? I predict that we will have Barcelona vs PSG in the final round.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 17, 2025, 05:58:21 PM
Congratulations to:
Barcelona
Inter Milan
PSG
Arsenal

as the clubs that finally advanced to the 2025 UCL Semi Finals. Yes, as predicted based on the results of the first leg. and in the end, Real Madrid was eliminated miserably because even in the second leg, they lost to Arsenal.
Yes, I would also say the same thing to those who made it to the Champions League semifinals this season.

This will be a more interesting competition, they will be more focused on what they want in this Champions League. But of all the remaining teams, Barcelona is my main favorite to become champions. Of course that is not a guarantee, because it could be that from the existing teams, the team that is considered to have the smallest chance will become champions.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 17, 2025, 06:06:51 PM
I think it is time for Real Madrid to say good bye for UCL. There is no enough time to equalize the aggregate. It is almost 90 minute, Real Madrid only could score 1 goal. Meanwhile Arsenal scored again 1 goal. It means Arsenal is leading with 3 goals difference. Well, it is quite disappointed to see Real Madrid eliminated in this phase.

For the match Inter vs Bayern Munich, it seems Inter will go to the next round. The match will be over very soon, Inter is leading with 1 goal difference.

Arsenal ended up defeating Real Madrid home and away, maybe winning today at the Santiago Bernabeu wasn't what I foresaw for Arsenal tonight but I must commend Arsenal's resilience and character throughout the entire game, they didn't succumb to any form of pressure and played like they were the favorites or at least equals not the underdogs. It was a well deserved spot in the semifinal for them, even though another tough task awaits.
I thought that Arsenal would defend completely at the Bernabeu but they were still able to score 2 goals even though the whole game was pressured by Real Madrid but the defense remained strong difficult to penetrate.
It's a great success for Arteta to beat a big team like Real Madrid.
It's time for Arsenal to move on, they might prove themselves in the semi-finals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 17, 2025, 08:28:43 PM
Arsenal ended up defeating Real Madrid home and away, maybe winning today at the Santiago Bernabeu wasn't what I foresaw for Arsenal tonight but I must commend Arsenal's resilience and character throughout the entire game, they didn't succumb to any form of pressure and played like they were the favorites or at least equals not the underdogs. It was a well deserved spot in the semifinal for them, even though another tough task awaits.
Arteta can now be proud because he has succeeded in building Arsenal to a level that can even beat Real Madrid in the UCL and I think the way Arsenal can qualify for the next stage is really very convincing. Namely, Arsenal seems to be able to qualify for the semi-finals quite easily. Because in reality Real Madrid could not provide strong enough resistance in their efforts to penetrate Arsenal's defense in the UCL this time. Seeing Arsenal qualify with a sizable aggregate advantage of 1-5 was truly surprising, actually. Because in the second leg, I personally even predicted that Arsenal would lose and Real Madrid would win, even though Real Madrid would still not qualify. But Arsenal exceeded what was expected of them in that match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on April 17, 2025, 09:30:55 PM
Arsenal ended up defeating Real Madrid home and away, maybe winning today at the Santiago Bernabeu wasn't what I foresaw for Arsenal tonight but I must commend Arsenal's resilience and character throughout the entire game, they didn't succumb to any form of pressure and played like they were the favorites or at least equals not the underdogs. It was a well deserved spot in the semifinal for them, even though another tough task awaits.
I thought that Arsenal would defend completely at the Bernabeu but they were still able to score 2 goals even though the whole game was pressured by Real Madrid but the defense remained strong difficult to penetrate.
It's a great success for Arteta to beat a big team like Real Madrid.
It's time for Arsenal to move on, they might prove themselves in the semi-finals.

Yeah, I quite honestly also didn’t expect Arsenal to be as sharp on the offensive end like the were, you’d expect them to be more focused on defending but that wasn’t the case, they kept attacking when they had their own opportunities as well.

PSG is going to be a completely different affair, but with the character Arsenal showed against Real Madrid, I really do like their chances.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on April 17, 2025, 10:51:39 PM
Bruuhh Real Madrid lost in the end how Arteta felt overthrowing the big team and did not expect a sizable aggregate score of up to 5-1 because at the time of this match Arsenal won back 2-1 over Madrid.

The second match was Inter Milan who qualified on a slim aggregate.
The Serie A representatives are really strong now and they will meet Barcelona again.
Arteta understands how to beat Real Madrid. He may already learn the weakness of Real Madrid defense and attacking line. It is quite surprising that Arsenal could beat with big aggregate although Arsenal played with no all key players. There were some key players who still got injured.

Yep, Inter Milan will face Barcelona. It is surely more difficult team, I'm not really sure that Inter Milan has a chance to defeat Barcelona.

Arsenal ended up defeating Real Madrid home and away, maybe winning today at the Santiago Bernabeu wasn't what I foresaw for Arsenal tonight but I must commend Arsenal's resilience and character throughout the entire game, they didn't succumb to any form of pressure and played like they were the favorites or at least equals not the underdogs. It was a well deserved spot in the semifinal for them, even though another tough task awaits.
True, Arsenal won the match both in their home and in Real Madrid home. Arsenal really showed that they are better than Real Madrid. Sure, Arsenal deserves to reach the semi-final round. Then, they will face PSG, Arsenal actually has a good chance to qualify for the final round. However, PSG isn't an easy team to be defeated, they looked stronger in this season in UCL.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 17, 2025, 10:55:04 PM
A little update on the odds for the semi-finals (by BC.Game):

Arsenal: x2.08
Draw: x3.50
PSG: x3.45
To qualify:
Arsenal: x2.00; PSG: x1.77

Barcelona: x1.67
Draw: x4.1
Inter: x4.7
To qualify:
Barcelona: x1.54; Inter: x2.43

Outright odds for the Champions League winner:
Barcelona: x3.1
PSG: x3.3
Arsenal: x3.6
Inter: x5.6

I'm a little bit surprised to see PSG as a favourite to qualify, I expected Arsenal to be the slight favourite. As such, I think a bet on Arsenal to go through could be worth considering.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on April 17, 2025, 11:44:11 PM
Congratulations to:
Barcelona
Inter Milan
PSG
Arsenal
Those 4 teams have been qualified to semi-final. We will have the next matches (Arsenal vs PSG, Barcelona vs Inter Milan). Yes, Real Madrid is defeated by Arsenal, they can't continue to expect the next UCL title. So Mbappe fails to win UCL this season. I assume PSG may reach the final and they are possible to win UCL title. If this comes true, I think Mbappe may feel a bit regretful with his decision to move to Real Madrid.  :D

Anyway which team do you think to go to the final round? I predict that we will have Barcelona vs PSG in the final round.
Barcelona is a strong candidate to advance to the UCL final this time, if you look at how they have performed throughout this season. Quite promising, if they don't make a fatal mistake, then I'm sure Barcelona will also be able to beat Inter Milan.

for Arsenal vs PSG, well, this is quite difficult to predict. Arsenal is currently quite strong, especially with Saka's return. However, on the other hand, PSG is also very enthusiastic about pursuing the UCK title this time, with their front line which is also strong and consistent at this time. But for me, I want to support Arsenal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 17, 2025, 11:47:57 PM
PSG is going to be a completely different affair, but with the character Arsenal showed against Real Madrid, I really do like their chances.
The good thing for Arsenal is that they are going to be starting first at the Emirates; they will have the opportunity to put themselves in a place of advantage before the second leg in Paris, like they did to Real Madrid before the second leg.

I expect more competition for Arsenal; they should also be in expectation of the same.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 18, 2025, 01:25:32 AM
Congratulations to:
Barcelona
Inter Milan
PSG
Arsenal
Those 4 teams have been qualified to semi-final. We will have the next matches (Arsenal vs PSG, Barcelona vs Inter Milan). Yes, Real Madrid is defeated by Arsenal, they can't continue to expect the next UCL title. So Mbappe fails to win UCL this season. I assume PSG may reach the final and they are possible to win UCL title. If this comes true, I think Mbappe may feel a bit regretful with his decision to move to Real Madrid.  :D

Anyway which team do you think to go to the final round? I predict that we will have Barcelona vs PSG in the final round.
Barcelona is a strong candidate to advance to the UCL final this time, if you look at how they have performed throughout this season. Quite promising, if they don't make a fatal mistake, then I'm sure Barcelona will also be able to beat Inter Milan.

for Arsenal vs PSG, well, this is quite difficult to predict. Arsenal is currently quite strong, especially with Saka's return. However, on the other hand, PSG is also very enthusiastic about pursuing the UCK title this time, with their front line which is also strong and consistent at this time. But for me, I want to support Arsenal.

I'm not really sure who will qualify between PSG and Arsenal, I'd say 49% Arsenal, 51% PSG. Get the popcorn out..
Barcelona are my favorites but this should be a close match, with Barcelona’s possession game potentially exploiting Inter’s defensive vulnerabilities. The second leg will be crucial, but there is no doubt whatsoever, not even a tiny bit, that Barcelona will not only reach the semifinals but will also go all the way to the final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on April 18, 2025, 02:31:48 PM
Congratulations to:
Barcelona
Inter Milan
PSG
Arsenal

as the clubs that finally advanced to the 2025 UCL Semi Finals. Yes, as predicted based on the results of the first leg. and in the end, Real Madrid was eliminated miserably because even in the second leg, they lost to Arsenal.

Who do you think will be able to lift the cup?
They are all very strong teams, Barcelona was given a 4 while Inter was given a 11, just to give an example.
Making predictions at this time is really very difficult, even if they will certainly be very tough matches.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 18, 2025, 03:37:01 PM
PSG is going to be a completely different affair, but with the character Arsenal showed against Real Madrid, I really do like their chances.
The good thing for Arsenal is that they are going to be starting first at the Emirates; they will have the opportunity to put themselves in a place of advantage before the second leg in Paris, like they did to Real Madrid before the second leg.

I expect more competition for Arsenal; they should also be in expectation of the same.
With their victory when they destroyed Real Madrid, it made them more confident when they were in the semifinals facing Paris Saint Germain.

They will play at their home base first and that is indeed advantageous. They can do the same thing when they beat Real Madrid. But Paris Saint Germain also came not to lose, they must have studied the game from Arsenal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on April 18, 2025, 04:13:52 PM
eh but watch out for the hot hand fallacy, a famous behavior in basketball

the fact that he won against Real Madrid does not automatically give him the victory against PSG

they are all very strong teams at this point in the Cup, so they are all difficult matches
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 18, 2025, 05:32:00 PM
Bruuhh Real Madrid lost in the end how Arteta felt overthrowing the big team and did not expect a sizable aggregate score of up to 5-1 because at the time of this match Arsenal won back 2-1 over Madrid.

The second match was Inter Milan who qualified on a slim aggregate.
The Serie A representatives are really strong now and they will meet Barcelona again.
Arteta understands how to beat Real Madrid. He may already learn the weakness of Real Madrid defense and attacking line. It is quite surprising that Arsenal could beat with big aggregate although Arsenal played with no all key players. There were some key players who still got injured.

Yep, Inter Milan will face Barcelona. It is surely more difficult team, I'm not really sure that Inter Milan has a chance to defeat Barcelona.
Arteta certainly understands Real Madrid's weaknesses and it was proven again in the second leg that it went smoothly with a narrow victory which became a large aggregate score.
It's a step up for Arsenal who can qualify for the semi-finals - while against PSG is an equal opponent maybe Arteta can do the same as with Real Madrid.

I know Barcelona is a difficult opponent, but here I am supporting Inter Milan who will qualify.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 18, 2025, 07:08:13 PM
eh but watch out for the hot hand fallacy, a famous behavior in basketball

the fact that he won against Real Madrid does not automatically give him the victory against PSG

they are all very strong teams at this point in the Cup, so they are all difficult matches
Well even PSG who managed to beat Liverpool really surprised us. Because they started the UCL badly but they recovered and made a better game which even made Liverpool lose. So Arsenal could even have the same fate. And well at this rate I can't even make a prediction.

PSG and Arsenal are both battling to win their first UCL trophy. Meanwhile, Barcelona and Inter Milan have won the UCL and they want to repeat their glory days again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on April 18, 2025, 11:44:34 PM
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I'm not really sure who will qualify between PSG and Arsenal, I'd say 49% Arsenal, 51% PSG. Get the popcorn out..
Barcelona are my favorites but this should be a close match, with Barcelona’s possession game potentially exploiting Inter’s defensive vulnerabilities. The second leg will be crucial, but there is no doubt whatsoever, not even a tiny bit, that Barcelona will not only reach the semifinals but will also go all the way to the final.
Yes, both, PSG and Arsenal have their own strengths and potentials, with the advantages and disadvantages in some of their lineups. The most crucial thing about Arsenal is that they don't have a main striker who really makes their front line very strong, but they have an extraordinary midfield. and this is what makes Arsenal quite unpredictable later. but on the other hand, PSG's front line is currently very optimal and the progress is very good after the presence of several strong new players and combined with other top players at PSG even though Mbappe has left. but what is certain, PSG also managed to secure a ticket to the Semi-finals and this is a very good result.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: KingsDen on April 19, 2025, 11:37:37 AM
eh but watch out for the hot hand fallacy, a famous behavior in basketball

the fact that he won against Real Madrid does not automatically give him the victory against PSG

they are all very strong teams at this point in the Cup, so they are all difficult matches

I agree with you football wise, but psychology wise, Arsenal is in great advantage over PSG. Arsenal being able to defeat Real Madrid home and away has automatically given them an edge over PSG. PSG is coming to the match psychologically defeated. If Arsenal build on this, they will coward PSG and win them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 19, 2025, 02:51:51 PM
eh but watch out for the hot hand fallacy, a famous behavior in basketball

the fact that he won against Real Madrid does not automatically give him the victory against PSG

they are all very strong teams at this point in the Cup, so they are all difficult matches

I agree with you football wise, but psychology wise, Arsenal is in great advantage over PSG. Arsenal being able to defeat Real Madrid home and away has automatically given them an edge over PSG. PSG is coming to the match psychologically defeated. If Arsenal build on this, they will coward PSG and win them.
This is true, not necessarily a team with good capital from the previous match will also make them successful in the next match, but at least it has a good impact on their psychology.

Both of these teams are also not teams that can be underestimated, either one and even anyone when they are in the semifinals proves that they have passed many obstacles before.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on April 19, 2025, 06:23:25 PM
I agree with you football wise, but psychology wise, Arsenal is in great advantage over PSG. Arsenal being able to defeat Real Madrid home and away has automatically given them an edge over PSG. PSG is coming to the match psychologically defeated. If Arsenal build on this, they will coward PSG and win them.

Real Madrid has eliminated PSG 3 times under 4 season that I can remember and if Arsenal is strong enough to finish this guys in the quarter final, PSG shouldn't be a problem, they just need to find their weak points the way they did with Real Madrid, the same strategy they used to unleash many goals in the first leg, the other leg will be stress free.

However, the way Arsenal scored goals, they don't do much damages like other teams, it's only in this Quarter final they have had much number of goals, if they don't do that in this semi final, they will suffer this loss to PSG and wouldn't be able to advance from this stage.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 19, 2025, 11:54:07 PM
eh but watch out for the hot hand fallacy, a famous behavior in basketball

the fact that he won against Real Madrid does not automatically give him the victory against PSG

they are all very strong teams at this point in the Cup, so they are all difficult matches
Well even PSG who managed to beat Liverpool really surprised us. Because they started the UCL badly but they recovered and made a better game which even made Liverpool lose. So Arsenal could even have the same fate. And well at this rate I can't even make a prediction.

PSG and Arsenal are both battling to win their first UCL trophy. Meanwhile, Barcelona and Inter Milan have won the UCL and they want to repeat their glory days again.

Arteta killed Carlo tactically. Mature play by the Gunners. Saka is incredibly mentally resilient. Rice is a terminator. Gabi, hats off to you. And words of praise for Kiwior. He played well
But PSG have too much chemistry and sauce for Arsenal to handle. In terms of style, I prefer Luis Enrique, direct, outward-facing, dynamic, aggressive football. Great duels.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: TryNinja on April 20, 2025, 12:29:50 AM
- Mbappe doesn't win anything on PSG -> goes to Real Madrid -> PSG fighting on the Champions semifinals
- Real Madrid winning everything, La Liga, Champions League -> Mbappe goes to Real Madrid -> Real Madrid eliminated from Champions, pretty much done of La Liga, Copa del Rey failure maybe loading...

Ouch...:P
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 20, 2025, 01:00:44 PM
- Mbappe doesn't win anything on PSG -> goes to Real Madrid -> PSG fighting on the Champions semifinals
- Real Madrid winning everything, La Liga, Champions League -> Mbappe goes to Real Madrid -> Real Madrid eliminated from Champions, pretty much done of La Liga, Copa del Rey failure maybe loading...

Ouch...:P

Life is not always as people expect and some lesson one has to learn...
Mbappe leaving PSG to join Real so that he can win the Champion League and in return he get eliminated at Quarter finals and PSG now look favourite. But we know, Mbappe has been good despite having to acclimate to a new league and team, it's the effect of losing Kroos that hurt Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 20, 2025, 02:25:35 PM
- Mbappe doesn't win anything on PSG -> goes to Real Madrid -> PSG fighting on the Champions semifinals
- Real Madrid winning everything, La Liga, Champions League -> Mbappe goes to Real Madrid -> Real Madrid eliminated from Champions, pretty much done of La Liga, Copa del Rey failure maybe loading...

Ouch...:P
This is his first season at Real Madrid, and what happened was that Real Madrid actually had a lot of problems that eventually made their performance decline.

I want to see what will happen next season, whether they will quickly get out of this situation or not. And especially for Mbappe, he also has to find his best game again, because I haven't seen it fully now.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 20, 2025, 06:57:33 PM
- Mbappe doesn't win anything on PSG -> goes to Real Madrid -> PSG fighting on the Champions semifinals
- Real Madrid winning everything, La Liga, Champions League -> Mbappe goes to Real Madrid -> Real Madrid eliminated from Champions, pretty much done of La Liga, Copa del Rey failure maybe loading...

Ouch...:P

Life is not always as people expect and some lesson one has to learn...
Mbappe leaving PSG to join Real so that he can win the Champion League and in return he get eliminated at Quarter finals and PSG now look favourite. But we know, Mbappe has been good despite having to acclimate to a new league and team, it's the effect of losing Kroos that hurt Madrid.
Not everything can go according to plan, Mbappe came to Real Madrid with the aim of getting something he had never felt during his time at Paris Saint Germain, and he has to accept the fact that he failed this season.
But I think it's not wise to only talk about one person, because if that's the case then it's as if Mbappe is the most guilty person, even though I know that's not his goal.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Mate2237 on April 20, 2025, 08:41:50 PM
Arsenal fans are determining to win the Champions League and they have given up hope in the English Premier League for Liverpool. One of them was even saying that if Inter Milan won Barcelona then they are afraid to win the title. But if it is Barcelona that will play the final with them they have hope to win the title well. Let's see how it will go.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 20, 2025, 09:24:19 PM
Arsenal fans are determining to win the Champions League and they have given up hope in the English Premier League for Liverpool. One of them was even saying that if Inter Milan won Barcelona then they are afraid to win the title. But if it is Barcelona that will play the final with them they have hope to win the title well. Let's see how it will go.
I expect them to say a lot about them winning the Champions League this season but it is not as easy as they think. I would be shocked if Arsenal wins UCL and that will be a remarkable day for them in history. If they can win PSG in the semifinals, they will face a tougher opponent in the finals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 21, 2025, 09:53:09 AM
- Mbappe doesn't win anything on PSG -> goes to Real Madrid -> PSG fighting on the Champions semifinals
- Real Madrid winning everything, La Liga, Champions League -> Mbappe goes to Real Madrid -> Real Madrid eliminated from Champions, pretty much done of La Liga, Copa del Rey failure maybe loading...

Ouch...:P

Life is not always as people expect and some lesson one has to learn...
Mbappe leaving PSG to join Real so that he can win the Champion League and in return he get eliminated at Quarter finals and PSG now look favourite. But we know, Mbappe has been good despite having to acclimate to a new league and team, it's the effect of losing Kroos that hurt Madrid.
Not everything can go according to plan, Mbappe came to Real Madrid with the aim of getting something he had never felt during his time at Paris Saint Germain, and he has to accept the fact that he failed this season.
But I think it's not wise to only talk about one person, because if that's the case then it's as if Mbappe is the most guilty person, even though I know that's not his goal.

Agree. Football is a team game, so all players have a role in every team's victory or defeat, but the biggest responsibility lies with the coach.
But Mbappe is a top player and his departure disappointed PSG fans, Madrid's elimination in the UCL this season has made them a bit of fun. :)
Let's see what happens next season
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 22, 2025, 05:14:33 PM
Not everything can go according to plan, Mbappe came to Real Madrid with the aim of getting something he had never felt during his time at Paris Saint Germain, and he has to accept the fact that he failed this season.
But I think it's not wise to only talk about one person, because if that's the case then it's as if Mbappe is the most guilty person, even though I know that's not his goal.

Agree. Football is a team game, so all players have a role in every team's victory or defeat, but the biggest responsibility lies with the coach.
But Mbappe is a top player and his departure disappointed PSG fans, Madrid's elimination in the UCL this season has made them a bit of fun. :)
Let's see what happens next season
Yes, fans of any team will be happy when they see a player who is considered a traitor fail in his new team and that is a natural thing and it also often happens in football.

This is a color of course and what is more interesting is when at that time Mbappe failed to move to Real Madrid and many people also criticized him because he was considered to be more concerned with money and privilege.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 22, 2025, 11:30:47 PM
Arsenal fans are determining to win the Champions League and they have given up hope in the English Premier League for Liverpool. One of them was even saying that if Inter Milan won Barcelona then they are afraid to win the title. But if it is Barcelona that will play the final with them they have hope to win the title well. Let's see how it will go.
Arsenal fans hope to realize their dreams. Lol But how do they deserve the trophy if they play the same as yesterday in the quarterfinals.
Against PSG do not underestimate the Gunners must pass this French team because this team is also equally strong.
If they qualify then that's the last hope.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 23, 2025, 10:38:39 AM
Arsenal fans are determining to win the Champions League and they have given up hope in the English Premier League for Liverpool. One of them was even saying that if Inter Milan won Barcelona then they are afraid to win the title. But if it is Barcelona that will play the final with them they have hope to win the title well. Let's see how it will go.
Arsenal fans hope to realize their dreams. Lol But how do they deserve the trophy if they play the same as yesterday in the quarterfinals.
Against PSG do not underestimate the Gunners must pass this French team because this team is also equally strong.
If they qualify then that's the last hope.

Arteta is a quality manager He's tactically brilliant, and Arsenal are the favourites to win the Champions League, according to Opta. Arsenal could make history if they win it. They just have to work hard and be efficient. Just three games needed but at the end of every season Arteta efforts seem wasted. And I think PSG is still the favourite to win this match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 23, 2025, 12:51:08 PM
What do you think about Barcelona who currently have to lose one of their best strikers for the next few matches, namely Lewandowski, who seems to be injured and has to miss several matches. And it is reported that he will be absent, including in the important UCL match against Inter Milan.

So, do you think Barcelona will remain favorites or not in this match?
Because without Lewandowski I think Barcelona will experience a slight decline in performance. But fortunately, Barcelona still has many players who can be relied on in the attack line, although Lewandowski will still be difficult to replace.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 23, 2025, 04:22:20 PM
Agree. Football is a team game, so all players have a role in every team's victory or defeat, but the biggest responsibility lies with the coach.
But Mbappe is a top player and his departure disappointed PSG fans, Madrid's elimination in the UCL this season has made them a bit of fun. :)
Let's see what happens next season
Well, in this regard you're right. It's a fact that Mbappé has many detractors, but that doesn't matter , He only has one season at Madrid, and despite everything he's managed to adapt In La Liga too, it's a fact that La Liga is totally Negreira, and it's incredible how the audacity of these people can make things so favorable for Barcelona That takes a lot of the excitement out of Everything Plus , there's already a precedent, so don't be surprised if it's being repeated.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 24, 2025, 09:42:36 AM
Arteta is a quality manager He's tactically brilliant, and Arsenal are the favourites to win the Champions League, according to Opta. Arsenal could make history if they win it. They just have to work hard and be efficient. Just three games needed but at the end of every season Arteta efforts seem wasted. And I think PSG is still the favourite to win this match.
The winner of this game will be decided from the midfield. If Arsenal are able to dominate the midfield like they did against Real Madrid, winning will be very possible in the Emirates. Unfortunately, the disadvantage still lingers for Arsenal because midfield machine Thomas Partey will be absent, and that will force Declan Rice to play deeper in midfield. William Saliba, who also has been making some little mistakes in his recent games, needs to be cautious not to make a costly one.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 24, 2025, 04:59:50 PM
Arteta is a quality manager He's tactically brilliant, and Arsenal are the favourites to win the Champions League, according to Opta. Arsenal could make history if they win it. They just have to work hard and be efficient. Just three games needed but at the end of every season Arteta efforts seem wasted. And I think PSG is still the favourite to win this match.
The winner of this game will be decided from the midfield. If Arsenal are able to dominate the midfield like they did against Real Madrid, winning will be very possible in the Emirates. Unfortunately, the disadvantage still lingers for Arsenal because midfield machine Thomas Partey will be absent, and that will force Declan Rice to play deeper in midfield. William Saliba, who also has been making some little mistakes in his recent games, needs to be cautious not to make a costly one.
Arteta has reliable ammunition, but whether it will go according to plan or not is the question. This season they have advantages that are weapons that they also use in the English league.

Now they have to see what the weaknesses are for Paris Saint Germain, because the advantages of a team where they can see the weaknesses of their opponents, that must be maximized.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 24, 2025, 05:09:09 PM
Arteta has reliable ammunition, but whether it will go according to plan or not is the question. This season they have advantages that are weapons that they also use in the English league.

Now they have to see what the weaknesses are for Paris Saint Germain, because the advantages of a team where they can see the weaknesses of their opponents, that must be maximized.
Indeed that is the most important thing. Namely, a team must be able to analyze the weaknesses of the opposing team and be able to find those weaknesses. After that, the team must create a strategy to exploit the opponent's weaknesses. In this case, Arsenal has succeeded in doing it against Real Madrid. And now will Arsenal also be able to do the same against PSG. It still makes us curious.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on April 24, 2025, 05:28:39 PM
Indeed that is the most important thing. Namely, a team must be able to analyze the weaknesses of the opposing team and be able to find those weaknesses. After that, the team must create a strategy to exploit the opponent's weaknesses. In this case, Arsenal has succeeded in doing it against Real Madrid. And now will Arsenal also be able to do the same against PSG. It still makes us curious.

I don't want to look at Arsenal from their domestic league perspective, I am looking at their bright to beat PSG though it will not be an easy journey but they can still do it. The way the hype around PSG is going is similar to what many people expected of Real Madrid to put Arsenal to their place but what happened that day, it was full of disappointment.

The sweet aspect to of this is that Arsenal will be the on be playing at home, if they can do the same damage they did to Real Madrid, they will sleep with no worries, they will not even bother like the way they did against Real Madrid.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 24, 2025, 05:37:20 PM
Arteta is a quality manager He's tactically brilliant, and Arsenal are the favourites to win the Champions League, according to Opta. Arsenal could make history if they win it. They just have to work hard and be efficient. Just three games needed but at the end of every season Arteta efforts seem wasted. And I think PSG is still the favourite to win this match.
The winner of this game will be decided from the midfield. If Arsenal are able to dominate the midfield like they did against Real Madrid, winning will be very possible in the Emirates. Unfortunately, the disadvantage still lingers for Arsenal because midfield machine Thomas Partey will be absent, and that will force Declan Rice to play deeper in midfield. William Saliba, who also has been making some little mistakes in his recent games, needs to be cautious not to make a costly one.

The PSG vs Arsenal game is such an interesting tactical battle.
Both teams are playing through the press and committing their fullbacks in attack.
My concern is about Arsenal's ability to cope with PSG's pace and creativity, especially from players like Barcola.
PSG will do a good job and will win the midfield battle. IMO
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 24, 2025, 06:00:59 PM
Indeed that is the most important thing. Namely, a team must be able to analyze the weaknesses of the opposing team and be able to find those weaknesses. After that, the team must create a strategy to exploit the opponent's weaknesses. In this case, Arsenal has succeeded in doing it against Real Madrid. And now will Arsenal also be able to do the same against PSG. It still makes us curious.

I don't want to look at Arsenal from their domestic league perspective, I am looking at their bright to beat PSG though it will not be an easy journey but they can still do it. The way the hype around PSG is going is similar to what many people expected of Real Madrid to put Arsenal to their place but what happened that day, it was full of disappointment.

The sweet aspect to of this is that Arsenal will be the on be playing at home, if they can do the same damage they did to Real Madrid, they will sleep with no worries, they will not even bother like the way they did against Real Madrid.
But the interesting thing about Arsenal and PSG is that neither of them has ever won a title in the UCL. So this season, both of them definitely have the same high motivation to win the UCL title for the first time. But I think both teams have equal performance. So it's still difficult for me to say which one is superior. Firstly, PSG is the team that managed to beat Liverpool. And secondly, Arsenal is the team that managed to beat Real Madrid. Even though this is the semi-final, I think the atmosphere will be like the Final.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: babo on April 24, 2025, 07:10:38 PM
But the interesting thing about Arsenal and PSG is that neither of them has ever won a title in the UCL. So this season, both of them definitely have the same high motivation to win the UCL title for the first time. But I think both teams have equal performance. So it's still difficult for me to say which one is superior. Firstly, PSG is the team that managed to beat Liverpool. And secondly, Arsenal is the team that managed to beat Real Madrid. Even though this is the semi-final, I think the atmosphere will be like the Final.

They will certainly be very beautiful matches to watch, in this poker of very strong teams, none is inferior to the other and all can win, some more than others
obviously I was really amazed by Arsenal, I never expected a wonderful season like they did
I can't explain how he did it, but I'm glad it happened
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Themepen on April 24, 2025, 08:17:27 PM
I don't want to look at Arsenal from their domestic league perspective, I am looking at their bright to beat PSG though it will not be an easy journey but they can still do it. The way the hype around PSG is going is similar to what many people expected of Real Madrid to put Arsenal to their place but what happened that day, it was full of disappointment.

The sweet aspect to of this is that Arsenal will be the on be playing at home, if they can do the same damage they did to Real Madrid, they will sleep with no worries, they will not even bother like the way they did against Real Madrid.
Fact is that Arsenal gets to play first game at their own stadium is big plus. You are hoping they can play as well against PSG as they did against Real Madrid at home. If they can get similar good result against PSG you think they will feel very confident going into second game. They might not even be as worried as they were after playing Real Madrid. It sounds like you think playing at home could be key for Arsenal to get good result against PSG even though many people think PSG is stronger team. And we can not underestimate opponent because any team can give surprise any time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 24, 2025, 11:26:14 PM
I don't want to look at Arsenal from their domestic league perspective, I am looking at their bright to beat PSG though it will not be an easy journey but they can still do it. The way the hype around PSG is going is similar to what many people expected of Real Madrid to put Arsenal to their place but what happened that day, it was full of disappointment.

The sweet aspect to of this is that Arsenal will be the on be playing at home, if they can do the same damage they did to Real Madrid, they will sleep with no worries, they will not even bother like the way they did against Real Madrid.
Fact is that Arsenal gets to play first game at their own stadium is big plus. You are hoping they can play as well against PSG as they did against Real Madrid at home. If they can get similar good result against PSG you think they will feel very confident going into second game. They might not even be as worried as they were after playing Real Madrid. It sounds like you think playing at home could be key for Arsenal to get good result against PSG even though many people think PSG is stronger team. And we can not underestimate opponent because any team can give surprise any time.
There is aways a home advantage for the host club because they can make proper use of their home ground and crowd to win the match. However, PSG is not as weak as Madrid so I don't expect an easy win for Arsenal in the the first leg at Emirate Stadium.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Igebotz on April 25, 2025, 12:05:39 AM
There is aways a home advantage for the host club because they can make proper use of their home ground and crowd to win the match. However, PSG is not as weak as Madrid so I don't expect an easy win for Arsenal in the the first leg at Emirate Stadium.

Real Madrid were not weak, they were only dominated tactically in both games, that's not being weak, it not having the best day.  They wouldn't have made it to the stage they finished if they were actually weak as you said.

PSG and Arsenal play almost the same kind of football this season, always trying to posses the midfield and attack from the wings. It's going to be an interesting game but PSG could the pace of their wingers to their advantage but we'll see.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 25, 2025, 11:49:04 AM

PSG and Arsenal play almost the same kind of football this season, always trying to posses the midfield and attack from the wings. It's going to be an interesting game but PSG could the pace of their wingers to their advantage but we'll see.

Football is about versatility and playing in different ways. Goals will come eventually.
Against Arsenal, PSG really needed Barcola and Doue, they are very compatible in the game and can provide assists or passes that result in goals. Barcola ticks everything PSG need in a left-winger
At the beginning of the season, Barcola was getting past the fullbacks like it was nothing. He could still do it now but it gets overshadowed by the other world-class players PSG has on the team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 25, 2025, 06:06:31 PM
Arteta has reliable ammunition, but whether it will go according to plan or not is the question. This season they have advantages that are weapons that they also use in the English league.

Now they have to see what the weaknesses are for Paris Saint Germain, because the advantages of a team where they can see the weaknesses of their opponents, that must be maximized.
Indeed that is the most important thing. Namely, a team must be able to analyze the weaknesses of the opposing team and be able to find those weaknesses. After that, the team must create a strategy to exploit the opponent's weaknesses. In this case, Arsenal has succeeded in doing it against Real Madrid. And now will Arsenal also be able to do the same against PSG. It still makes us curious.
And yes sometimes a team can win a match not because they are better than the other team, but they can maximize the weaknesses of their opponents.

Once again, the greatest strength is when they are able to see the weaknesses of their opponents, that is what ultimately makes the opponents they face unable to do much because they can control and continuously attack what is the weakness.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 25, 2025, 06:41:58 PM
Arteta has reliable ammunition, but whether it will go according to plan or not is the question. This season they have advantages that are weapons that they also use in the English league.

Now they have to see what the weaknesses are for Paris Saint Germain, because the advantages of a team where they can see the weaknesses of their opponents, that must be maximized.
Indeed that is the most important thing. Namely, a team must be able to analyze the weaknesses of the opposing team and be able to find those weaknesses. After that, the team must create a strategy to exploit the opponent's weaknesses. In this case, Arsenal has succeeded in doing it against Real Madrid. And now will Arsenal also be able to do the same against PSG. It still makes us curious.
And yes sometimes a team can win a match not because they are better than the other team, but they can maximize the weaknesses of their opponents.

Once again, the greatest strength is when they are able to see the weaknesses of their opponents, that is what ultimately makes the opponents they face unable to do much because they can control and continuously attack what is the weakness.
Yes, a lot has happened recently where teams that are considered weak can even beat or hold strong teams to a draw. And all of this can happen because teams that are considered weak tend to analyze teams that are considered strong more. And they found a weak point in this strong team. So even a weak team can have a chance of winning if they can take advantage of their opponent's weak points. And conversely, there are times when a strong team does not really analyze in depth a team that is considered weak from the start. So they were careless and ended up losing. But in the UCL there are no longer weak teams. Because basically all the teams in the UCL are strong teams. And each team has its own way of covering its weaknesses. And in the end, only the team that can cover their weaknesses will be able to advance further. And yes, the 4 teams currently in the semi-finals are these teams.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on April 25, 2025, 10:35:54 PM
Arteta has reliable ammunition, but whether it will go according to plan or not is the question. This season they have advantages that are weapons that they also use in the English league.

Now they have to see what the weaknesses are for Paris Saint Germain, because the advantages of a team where they can see the weaknesses of their opponents, that must be maximized.
Indeed that is the most important thing. Namely, a team must be able to analyze the weaknesses of the opposing team and be able to find those weaknesses. After that, the team must create a strategy to exploit the opponent's weaknesses. In this case, Arsenal has succeeded in doing it against Real Madrid. And now will Arsenal also be able to do the same against PSG. It still makes us curious.
I believe that Arsenal and Barcelona teams are studying each team's pattern of play on how they will counter and challenge each other to a winning match. Both teams will be all tensed on how they will go about winning instead of losing. I don't know whose team I will support for a win because they both have performed fabulously for coming this far in the Champions League this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: $crypto$ on April 26, 2025, 03:55:46 PM
And yes sometimes a team can win a match not because they are better than the other team, but they can maximize the weaknesses of their opponents.

Once again, the greatest strength is when they are able to see the weaknesses of their opponents, that is what ultimately makes the opponents they face unable to do much because they can control and continuously attack what is the weakness.
Yes, a lot has happened recently where teams that are considered weak can even beat or hold strong teams to a draw. And all of this can happen because teams that are considered weak tend to analyze teams that are considered strong more. And they found a weak point in this strong team. So even a weak team can have a chance of winning if they can take advantage of their opponent's weak points. And conversely, there are times when a strong team does not really analyze in depth a team that is considered weak from the start. So they were careless and ended up losing. But in the UCL there are no longer weak teams. Because basically all the teams in the UCL are strong teams. And each team has its own way of covering its weaknesses. And in the end, only the team that can cover their weaknesses will be able to advance further. And yes, the 4 teams currently in the semi-finals are these teams.
A team if they do not analyze the weaknesses of their opponents because they feel they are stronger, then I can say they have done something stupid, because by doing so it is the same as underestimating their opponents and in football underestimating opponents is something that should not be done.

I agree with you that now in the Champions League there is no such thing as a weak team, all teams have good strengths, it's just that there are slight differences.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 26, 2025, 08:45:58 PM
Arteta has reliable ammunition, but whether it will go according to plan or not is the question. This season they have advantages that are weapons that they also use in the English league.

Now they have to see what the weaknesses are for Paris Saint Germain, because the advantages of a team where they can see the weaknesses of their opponents, that must be maximized.
Indeed that is the most important thing. Namely, a team must be able to analyze the weaknesses of the opposing team and be able to find those weaknesses. After that, the team must create a strategy to exploit the opponent's weaknesses. In this case, Arsenal has succeeded in doing it against Real Madrid. And now will Arsenal also be able to do the same against PSG. It still makes us curious.
I believe that Arsenal and Barcelona teams are studying each team's pattern of play on how they will counter and challenge each other to a winning match. Both teams will be all tensed on how they will go about winning instead of losing. I don't know whose team I will support for a win because they both have performed fabulously for coming this far in the Champions League this season.
I don't get you. Are you talking about the finals or semifinals because we don't know which two clubs amongst the them that will be in the finals. I am more concerned about the semifinals because that's where we would get the best teams that will be in the finals. However, if Arsenal can win PSG time shall tell.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 27, 2025, 01:51:44 PM
Barcelona just won the Copa del Rey title by beating Real Madrid in the final. They now have the chance to win the treble this season and even have the chance to win the quadruple.

Now they are only focused on the Champions League, in La Liga they only need a few more wins which they will definitely make the most of. They may achieve great success this season.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Roseline492 on April 27, 2025, 08:40:25 PM
Barcelona just won the Copa del Rey title by beating Real Madrid in the final. They now have the chance to win the treble this season and even have the chance to win the quadruple.

Barcelona is indeed impressive but it could have been real Madrid who would have won the cup but they were having a lot of mistakes from the players, from their performance they didn't take that match as a match with the potential of giving them a trophy but since they could not see it that way let Barcelona who want to carry all the trophy on the leagues they are win it, so actually Barcelona might win up to three trophies this season because La Liga might be theirs while champions League is playing towards them again.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: UNIVERSE on April 27, 2025, 09:44:13 PM
Barcelona just won the Copa del Rey title by beating Real Madrid in the final. They now have the chance to win the treble this season and even have the chance to win the quadruple.
Yes, they have the chance to win 3 trophies now. After they won Copa Del Rey, they are possible to win La Liga and UCL trophy. However, it won't be easy to win UCL trophy because they will fight with strong teams. Inter is quite strong in defense, it will be a tight match in semi-final. But if Barcelona reaches the final, they look like to play against PSG. Let's see how Barcelona can optimize their chance of getting more trophies.

Now they are only focused on the Champions League, in La Liga they only need a few more wins which they will definitely make the most of. They may achieve great success this season.
Dude, Real Madrid still can catches them in La Liga. Barcelona can't be relaxed and only focus on UCL matches. If Barcelona underestimates Real Madrid, they will be overtaken by Real Madrid in the 1st place of La Liga standings. We must be aware that there are still 5 remaining matches.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Asiska02 on April 27, 2025, 10:36:32 PM
Barcelona just won the Copa del Rey title by beating Real Madrid in the final. They now have the chance to win the treble this season and even have the chance to win the quadruple.

Now they are only focused on the Champions League, in La Liga they only need a few more wins which they will definitely make the most of. They may achieve great success this season.

Quadruple is somehow possible for Barcelona this season after winning the Copa Del Rey finals against Real Madrid. Real Madrid messed up and could not hold Barcelona up for some more time before the final whistle was blown, if not they did a comeback and was leading in the game. Now this chapter is closed and achieved by Barcelona.

In the next chapter that Barcelona is going into now, they will be fighting fearlessly for the champions league trophy after reaching the semifinals of the competition. They only see Inter Milan as their only obstacle not to reach the finals and win the trophy. They believe that regardless of any team between PSG and Arsenal, any one of them that makes it to the finals will be easy for them to beat. The La Liga trophy is almost certain for them, so they won’t have more to fear in not triumphing there.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on April 27, 2025, 11:27:37 PM
I believe that Arsenal and Barcelona teams are studying each team's pattern of play on how they will counter and challenge each other to a winning match. Both teams will be all tensed on how they will go about winning instead of losing. I don't know whose team I will support for a win because they both have performed fabulously for coming this far in the Champions League this season.
I don't get you. Are you talking about the finals or semifinals because we don't know which two clubs amongst the them that will be in the finals. I am more concerned about the semifinals because that's where we would get the best teams that will be in the finals. However, if Arsenal can win PSG time shall tell.
Sorry, my mistake. We will see the semifinals before the finals. While Arsenal vs PSG, and Barcelona vs Inter haven't played their match, we are yet to know the team that will reach the finals. The finals of the Champions League are unclear to everyone to predict correctly as it currently stands. My predictions may be wrong or right to see Arsenal vs Barcelona in the finals of the Champions League. My hands are crossed until the first and second-leg matches are all played
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 28, 2025, 06:36:11 PM
Barcelona just won the Copa del Rey title by beating Real Madrid in the final. They now have the chance to win the treble this season and even have the chance to win the quadruple.

Now they are only focused on the Champions League, in La Liga they only need a few more wins which they will definitely make the most of. They may achieve great success this season.
On the one hand, Barcelona managed to continue to maintain their quality in the domestic league even though Lewandowski was absent. But on the other hand, Inter Milan actually experienced several defeats in the domestic league and even just lost the opportunity to become champions in the Coppa Italia. This makes me doubt Inter Milan in the UCL. Barcelona increasingly looks superior. but I hope that at UCL Inter Milan will not disappoint. But it doesn't matter if the one who wins in the end is Barcelona. because this team has not been successful in the UCL for quite a long time.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Roseline492 on April 28, 2025, 09:43:03 PM
Football is about versatility and playing in different ways. Goals will come eventually.
Against Arsenal, PSG really needed Barcola and Doue, they are very compatible in the game and can provide assists or passes that result in goals. Barcola ticks everything PSG need in a left-winger
At the beginning of the season, Barcola was getting past the fullbacks like it was nothing. He could still do it now but it gets overshadowed by the other world-class players PSG has on the team.

Versatility is what evey players should have because nowadays no club is hiring someone who plays a single pattern, the football today has improve so much from the past because in the past if you are playing center back you will remain on the back without going out sometimes to attempt the opponent goal post but now defenders are scoring regularly and sometimes if not for knowing were they're playing you wouldn't no some of the position they occupy because they're always front and back, so that's versatility in them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 28, 2025, 11:18:29 PM
Barcelona just won the Copa del Rey title by beating Real Madrid in the final. They now have the chance to win the treble this season and even have the chance to win the quadruple.

Now they are only focused on the Champions League, in La Liga they only need a few more wins which they will definitely make the most of. They may achieve great success this season.
Impressive! When was the last time this happened? I know Pep had achieved this before on a couple of occasions. After years of problems with their financials, they are back with a possible quadruple. It's still a tight race for La Liga and Inter is also a tough team to crack.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 29, 2025, 04:38:06 AM
Versatility is what evey players should have because nowadays no club is hiring someone who plays a single pattern, the football today has improve so much from the past because in the past if you are playing center back you will remain on the back without going out sometimes to attempt the opponent goal post but now defenders are scoring regularly and sometimes if not for knowing were they're playing you wouldn't no some of the position they occupy because they're always front and back, so that's versatility in them.
Today's soccer game strategies are much more complex than in the past. And yes, now all players are required to be more adaptable and flexible. Because now it's no longer surprising to see defenders scoring goals. Because sometimes they suddenly get in front and receive passes and score goals. Each club's strategy becomes more difficult to read.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 29, 2025, 05:58:48 AM
Barcelona just won the Copa del Rey title by beating Real Madrid in the final. They now have the chance to win the treble this season and even have the chance to win the quadruple.

Now they are only focused on the Champions League, in La Liga they only need a few more wins which they will definitely make the most of. They may achieve great success this season.
On the one hand, Barcelona managed to continue to maintain their quality in the domestic league even though Lewandowski was absent. But on the other hand, Inter Milan actually experienced several defeats in the domestic league and even just lost the opportunity to become champions in the Coppa Italia. This makes me doubt Inter Milan in the UCL. Barcelona increasingly looks superior. but I hope that at UCL Inter Milan will not disappoint. But it doesn't matter if the one who wins in the end is Barcelona. because this team has not been successful in the UCL for quite a long time.

Inter have lost three games in a row and scored 0 goals as they head into their Champions League semi-final with Barcelona on Wednesday. Inter forgot how to goal. lol
Is this the same Inter Milan that some Barca fans are scared of? :(
And I don’t see Inter Milan’s 3 losses in a row as a sacrifice for the game against Barcelona. They’re not as tough as they’re portrayed; they seem more like an average team with just a world-killer striker.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 29, 2025, 01:29:26 PM
Barcelona just won the Copa del Rey title by beating Real Madrid in the final. They now have the chance to win the treble this season and even have the chance to win the quadruple.

Now they are only focused on the Champions League, in La Liga they only need a few more wins which they will definitely make the most of. They may achieve great success this season.
On the one hand, Barcelona managed to continue to maintain their quality in the domestic league even though Lewandowski was absent. But on the other hand, Inter Milan actually experienced several defeats in the domestic league and even just lost the opportunity to become champions in the Coppa Italia. This makes me doubt Inter Milan in the UCL. Barcelona increasingly looks superior. but I hope that at UCL Inter Milan will not disappoint. But it doesn't matter if the one who wins in the end is Barcelona. because this team has not been successful in the UCL for quite a long time.

Inter have lost three games in a row and scored 0 goals as they head into their Champions League semi-final with Barcelona on Wednesday. Inter forgot how to goal. lol
Is this the same Inter Milan that some Barca fans are scared of? :(
And I don’t see Inter Milan’s 3 losses in a row as a sacrifice for the game against Barcelona. They’re not as tough as they’re portrayed; they seem more like an average team with just a world-killer striker.
It is quite surprising what has happened to Inter Milan recently. Because how come they seem to have lost sharpness in the attack line. Yes, you're right, they seem to have forgotten how to score goals. losing without being able to score even 1 goal against your opponent's goal is quite a serious defeat in my opinion. But yeah, let's see tomorrow's game.

For today we must not miss the Arsenal vs PSG match which will also be very interesting and it would be a great regret if we missed it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 29, 2025, 10:19:08 PM
As Arsenal are now quite difficult to face PSG at home they are already 0-1 behind and PSG's possession is more dominating, this feels depressed at home.

This time I saw Donnarumma too on fire so that several times the attack from Arsenal failed he seemed confident tonight with PSG.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 29, 2025, 10:58:57 PM
As Arsenal are now quite difficult to face PSG at home they are already 0-1 behind and PSG's possession is more dominating, this feels depressed at home.

This time I saw Donnarumma too on fire so that several times the attack from Arsenal failed he seemed confident tonight with PSG.
The game is over and PSG was able to win away from home. This will be a big challenge for Arsenal who will be going to Paris to play the second leg. Dembele early goal was able to give PSG victory in Emirate. Despite all the efforts og Arsenal on equalizing the goal, they could not until the match was over.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on April 29, 2025, 10:59:32 PM
As Arsenal are now quite difficult to face PSG at home they are already 0-1 behind and PSG's possession is more dominating, this feels depressed at home.
The match has been over. PSG won the match with 1 goal only. This is quite important win because PSG could win it in Arsenal home. They also played with a more effective way today. By the way, PSG defense looks very impressive. I think PSG defense is the strongest one among all the teams in the semi-final. This is they key factor to lead them to the final round.

This time I saw Donnarumma too on fire so that several times the attack from Arsenal failed he seemed confident tonight with PSG.
Donnarumma is a great goalkeeper, he always performed very well in each UCL match during this season. Yep, he is in his best performance. It is also supported by the good performance done by the defenders. Arsenal attackers have no idea to break PSG solid defense.


Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 29, 2025, 11:39:25 PM
It's almost like PSG found a formula for beating English clubs. First Liverpool, then Aston Villa, now they are halfway through of eliminating Arsenal.
It was an even game, but I think it's fair to say that PSG deserved the win, as they created more and better chances. Arsenal looked decent, they even scored an equaliser but it got denied due to offside. It just wasn't enough, though.
Looking at Home/Away stats for both teams in their respective leagues, it seems like both of them are performing almost equally at home as they do in away games. This means the home advantage for PSG might not be as big of a factor as some would expect, and this is still anyone's game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: JoyMarsha on April 29, 2025, 11:48:36 PM
As Arsenal are now quite difficult to face PSG at home they are already 0-1 behind and PSG's possession is more dominating, this feels depressed at home.

This time I saw Donnarumma too on fire so that several times the attack from Arsenal failed he seemed confident tonight with PSG.
The game is over and PSG was able to win away from home. This will be a big challenge for Arsenal who will be going to Paris to play the second leg. Dembele early goal was able to give PSG victory in Emirate. Despite all the efforts og Arsenal on equalizing the goal, they could not until the match was over.
The one goal defeat of Arsenal doesn't seem good to me because they are the host team. They were expected to win PSG by all means, so that when they get to PSG home, they will prepare to draw with them outermost. Learning about this defeat tonight has disorganized the chance of Arsenal reaching the finals of Champions League. It will completely be, another season that Arsenal didn't win a trophy. This is all bad for Arsenal with their level of performance.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on April 29, 2025, 11:49:57 PM
Donnarumma is a great goalkeeper, he always performed very well in each UCL match during this season. Yep, he is in his best performance. It is also supported by the good performance done by the defenders. Arsenal attackers have no idea to break PSG solid defense.
Donnarumma's level has indeed become the world's top goalkeeper level, his ability to save goals from goals has been proven, both at the national team level and at the club. And at PSG, he is one of the key players who plays a very important role in the victory against Arsenal.

If we look at these statistics, there are 5 goal keeper saves, from Arsenal's very pressing and dangerous attacks. Just imagine, Arsenal's dangerous shots on target total 5 shots on target, and all 5 shots on target can be saved by Donnarumma, what an incredible save.
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https://www.flashscore.com/match/football/8IilrmEN/#/match-summary/match-statistics/0
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on April 29, 2025, 11:53:59 PM
The one goal defeat of Arsenal doesn't seem good to me because they are the host team. They were expected to win PSG by all means, so that when they get to PSG home, they will prepare to draw with them outermost. Learning about this defeat tonight has disorganized the chance of Arsenal reaching the finals of Champions League. It will completely be, another season that Arsenal didn't win a trophy. This is all bad for Arsenal with their level of performance.

Arsenal were the favorites going into the game, but I don’t think anyone would have expected the game to be a walk in the park for Arsenal, because PSG are having a really great and extraordinary season by their own standards.

It’s still quite a open tie and Arsenal would head to Paris knowing that they’ve still got all it takes to turn the tie around.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Uruhara on April 30, 2025, 03:40:37 AM
PSG this season is truly at their best. PSG continues to beat clubs from the Premier League. And PSG implements an attacking game and this makes PSG really a team that is difficult for teams from the Premier League to overcome.

- In the round of 16 PSG managed to beat Liverpool
- In the quarter finals PSG beat Aston Villa
- Now in the first leg of the semi-finals we have just seen Arsenal lose by a narrow score of 0-1.

Is it possible that this season PSG will make it to the final and win the UCL title for the first time? I think it's very possible. But if Arsenal lose again in the second leg then Arsenal will really be the subject of discussion again because they always fail in the end.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on April 30, 2025, 10:59:32 AM
It's almost like PSG found a formula for beating English clubs. First Liverpool, then Aston Villa, now they are halfway through of eliminating Arsenal.
It was an even game, but I think it's fair to say that PSG deserved the win, as they created more and better chances. Arsenal looked decent, they even scored an equaliser but it got denied due to offside. It just wasn't enough, though.
Looking at Home/Away stats for both teams in their respective leagues, it seems like both of them are performing almost equally at home as they do in away games. This means the home advantage for PSG might not be as big of a factor as some would expect, and this is still anyone's game.

Beating PSG at home in the UCL isn't for all English clubs.
PSG beat Arsenal for the first time in a European competition! It's making history...
And it's a great performance from PSG but more goals were needed to crown it up.
But the mission is not yet finished... Enrique still assigned the players to defend world peace again next week on Wednesday :)
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: ajiz138 on April 30, 2025, 01:24:56 PM
Barcelona just won the Copa del Rey title by beating Real Madrid in the final. They now have the chance to win the treble this season and even have the chance to win the quadruple.

Now they are only focused on the Champions League, in La Liga they only need a few more wins which they will definitely make the most of. They may achieve great success this season.
Impressive! When was the last time this happened? I know Pep had achieved this before on a couple of occasions. After years of problems with their financials, they are back with a possible quadruple. It's still a tight race for La Liga and Inter is also a tough team to crack.
Yes they could do that when they were with Pep if I am not mistaken and now they have the chance to repeat the same thing.

Now focus will be the important point for them, they just need to focus on every next game they will play. They don't need to think about anything else because it will distract them. The most important thing is they do their best in the next game.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 30, 2025, 02:37:10 PM
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Beating PSG at home in the UCL isn't for all English clubs.
PSG beat Arsenal for the first time in a European competition! It's making history...
And it's a great performance from PSG but more goals were needed to crown it up.
But the mission is not yet finished... Enrique still assigned the players to defend world peace again next week on Wednesday :)
To be fair, it was a good performance from Arsenal as well. Goalkeepers from both teams did well to keep the score low which must have been frustrating for a lot of bettors ;D Arsenal attacked more but they're probably the luckier side after the final whistle. It could have been 0-2 or 0-3 if not for the woodwork/crossbar.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Rruchi man on April 30, 2025, 10:07:31 PM
Beating PSG at home in the UCL isn't for all English clubs.
PSG beat Arsenal for the first time in a European competition! It's making history...
And it's a great performance from PSG but more goals were needed to crown it up.
But the mission is not yet finished... Enrique still assigned the players to defend world peace again next week on Wednesday :)
Just as much as people did not expect Arsenal to lose at the Emirates with the home advantage, lots of persons are also expecting that in France PSG will have the dominance, but it may not go as expected for them. I know that the number of persons that want Arsenal to fail is more than the number of persons expecting or supporting us, but there is no need for too much talk because I think next week is almost here and we would see how the game will go.

Barcelona against Inter Ilan is a top game. Barcelona is the better team.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: alltalk on April 30, 2025, 10:18:57 PM
Just as much as people did not expect Arsenal to lose at the Emirates with the home advantage, lots of persons are also expecting that in France PSG will have the dominance, but it may not go as expected for them. I know that the number of persons that want Arsenal to fail is more than the number of persons expecting or supporting us, but there is no need for too much talk because I think next week is almost here and we would see how the game will go.
There is no problem that people are talking about the match. Some people may expect Arsenal to win in first leg, but other people may already guess that PSG will win the match. We know that PSG already defeated 2 EPL teams, it is not really surprising if they could beat Arsenal. Leading with 1 goal, PSG has a better chance to play in the final. But I agree that there is still a chance for Arsenal. Let's see what's happening in the next leg. I personally assumes PSG will still dominate the next match and win again.

Barcelona against Inter Ilan is a top game. Barcelona is the better team.
Barcelona may be a better team. However, it doesn't guarantee anything. If you want the current match, both teams scored 2 goals (Barcelona 2-2 Inter Milan). Barcelona only dominated the match but Inter looks playing with a more effective way.

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Gurujebs on April 30, 2025, 10:19:21 PM
Beating PSG at home in the UCL isn't for all English clubs.
PSG beat Arsenal for the first time in a European competition! It's making history...
And it's a great performance from PSG but more goals were needed to crown it up.
But the mission is not yet finished... Enrique still assigned the players to defend world peace again next week on Wednesday :)

Funny how they did it and there wasn't Mbape and Messi and the team is doing way better than it was. This is what you get when you build a team from scratch and not based on promotions and hype, most of the players they had in PSG back then was because of hype and the money the will make and not th trophy but they are doing better, at least Arsenal is in trouble.

The next leg is very crucial for Arsenal, they are not definitely not going to have it very easy in the second leg, they are going to play an away match in another person home. Assuming they have won the first leg, they might have confidence in the second leg but now is the other way round and that's going to be difficult.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: salad daging on April 30, 2025, 10:30:48 PM
It's a crazy match, 67 minutes in and the goals are 3-3, meaning it's a match worth watching because of the number of goals.
Inter Milan are relying on counter-attacks but they've been effective.
It looks like with time remaining there will be more goals to come.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Roseline492 on April 30, 2025, 10:48:08 PM
Funny how they did it and there wasn't Mbape and Messi and the team is doing way better than it was. This is what you get when you build a team from scratch and not based on promotions and hype, most of the players they had in PSG back then was because of hype and the money the will make and not th trophy but they are doing better, at least Arsenal is in trouble.

Funny is just the world because we thought if there was no mbappe there will not be champions League for PSG but they gave us a big surprise because they have even approached more then the time Mbappe was there because if I'm mistaken mbappe has not led them this far ever since he was there but is good the management has improvised the way everybody had suggested for them because if they had still dwell on mbappe by now this would have not happen and there will not be champions League for them.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Zed0X on April 30, 2025, 10:56:27 PM
What a great game played by Barca and Inter but an unfortunate one for Sommer ;D Regardless of the team you support here, you'll appreciate how both teams fought. Different approach to the game but both were effective in scoring goals. I cannot wait for the second game which could be decided by a single goal or a penalty shootout.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Sim_card on April 30, 2025, 11:19:42 PM
What a great game played by Barca and Inter but an unfortunate one for Sommer ;D Regardless of the team you support here, you'll appreciate how both teams fought. Different approach to the game but both were effective in scoring goals. I cannot wait for the second game which could be decided by a single goal or a penalty shootout.
It was an incredible semifinals filled with thrills and excitement all through till tje emd og the game. Inter took the lead in the first half with an early goal in the first half and within twenty minutes, Inter scored two goals. Barcelona clapped back before the end of the first half. The second half Inter took the lead again before Barcelona got a lucky goal. Bothe teams deserve sharing points. The second leg will decide who will be in the finals.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: debra on April 30, 2025, 11:29:41 PM
What a great game played by Barca and Inter but an unfortunate one for Sommer ;D Regardless of the team you support here, you'll appreciate how both teams fought. Different approach to the game but both were effective in scoring goals. I cannot wait for the second game which could be decided by a single goal or a penalty shootout.
Yes, it was a great match. I'm surprised there were 6 goals in 1 match. Barcelona was dominating the match but Inter played very effective. When Inter Milan was leading 3 goals, I think Inter Milan will win the match. But it is true that it is very unfortunate Sommer did an own goal. However, Inter Milan has an advantage for the next leg. I think Inter Milan will play better in leg 2, it will be in Inter Milan home. Honestly, I don't want that we will have a penalty shootout.


Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on April 30, 2025, 11:35:55 PM
The result might seem pretty bad for Barcelona, but considering they were down 2-0, the 3-3 actually looks like a small success.
Strangely enough, Barcelona is still the favourite to qualify according to bookies, and I agree with that. They dominated the game and created more scoring chances, Inter was just exceptionally good in converting their chances into goals.

Shame Lewandowski is out due to a hamstring injury. He contributed a lot to Barcelona's success this season, so it would be nice to see him in the final games.

For those who missed the game, here are the highlights (5 mins), it's worth it:

Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: rby on April 30, 2025, 11:48:13 PM
What a great game played by Barca and Inter but an unfortunate one for Sommer ;D Regardless of the team you support here, you'll appreciate how both teams fought. Different approach to the game but both were effective in scoring goals. I cannot wait for the second game which could be decided by a single goal or a penalty shootout.
Barcelona dominated tonight's game no doubt but I think they were lucky to avoid defeat. Inter Milan knew they'll be outplayed if they come out and attack Barcelona so they decided to sit back and go for counter attacks which I think was a good game plan for them. The second leg which will take place at San Siro next week will be a difficult game for both sides but if you ask me, I think Inter Milan is more likely to edge past Barcelona
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: sampoerna on April 30, 2025, 11:59:55 PM
Barcelona dominated tonight's game no doubt but I think they were lucky to avoid defeat. Inter Milan knew they'll be outplayed if they come out and attack Barcelona so they decided to sit back and go for counter attacks which I think was a good game plan for them. The second leg which will take place at San Siro next week will be a difficult game for both sides but if you ask me, I think Inter Milan is more likely to edge past Barcelona
Wow, what an incredible and impressive result. I thought, Barcelona would win the match with a high goal gap because they were highly favored and they played at home. However, it turned out that this time, Inter Milan played really impressively. In fact, Inter Milan almost became the winner of this match if their players did not make a fatal mistake, namely an OG which greatly benefited Barcelona.

Statistically, Barcelona is very superior, yes even in any line, Barcelona is very superior. And on the other hand, Inter Milan only had 3 chances for shots on target, but those 3 shots became the goals. Wow, this is very accurate, right?
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: pawel7777 on May 01, 2025, 12:21:36 AM
As the 1st leg games of the semi-finals are concluded, here are the updated odds for the outright Champions League winner (by BC.Game):
PSG: x2.25
Barcelona: x3.5
Inter: x4.5
Arsenal: x8.0

So we have a bit strange situation, when Barcelona is no longer the favourite to win, but, at the same time, they are still the favourite to qualify to the final. This is either likely due to the bookies being impressed by PSG's performance or, most likely, because of PSG's chances of qualifying are higher than Barcelona's.
If we see the final between Barcelona and PSG, I'm sure Barcelona will be the favourite.

Odds for Arsenal are looking pretty attractive. Obviously I wouldn't recommend betting any significant amounts, but putting a few bucks on them could be worth it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: Harkorede on May 01, 2025, 12:38:32 AM
So we have a bit strange situation, when Barcelona is no longer the favourite to win, but, at the same time, they are still the favourite to qualify to the final. This is either likely due to the bookies being impressed by PSG's performance or, most likely, because of PSG's chances of qualifying are higher than Barcelona's.
If we see the final between Barcelona and PSG, I'm sure Barcelona will be the favourite.

The shift in the outright odds is just nothing but a reflect of the first leg result, PSG won away from home, while Barcelona played draw, so technically PSG chances of reaching the finals is higher than that of Barcelona, and logically, the team with a higher chance of reaching the finals is going to be the favorite for the outright.

Btw what an electrifying game between Inter and Barcelona, if there was any match I was expecting to be as intense, that'd be the Arsenal vs PSG match.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: joniboini on May 01, 2025, 05:52:25 AM
I was asleep and failed to wake up on time to watch Barca vs Inter. A bit surprised with the scoreline though. I predicted Barca to win with a 1 or 2 margin, looks like Inter is giving all they can to push as far as possible, hence the result. If they play with the same intensity, I think they'll give Barca trouble on the second leg too. I wonder if Barca will go through the final this time. Anyway, regardless of who wins on the second leg, I hope the final is as entertaining as the matches before it.
Title: Re: [Football] UEFA Champions League Betting & Discussion Thread
Post by: koang on May 01, 2025, 07:49:57 AM
What a great game played by Barca and Inter but an unfortunate one for Sommer ;D Regardless of the team you support here, you'll appreciate how both teams fought. Different approach to the game but both were effective in scoring goals. I cannot wait for the second game which could be decided by a single goal or a penalty shootout.

What makes me happy is Frenkie de Jong's performance for Barcelona in this match. He making Barca tick. De Jong is enjoying his football again. 8)
I can see why Man United has been following this guy for years. His vision and passing are insane.
The second leg will be decisive, the winner takes all but I hope there is no penalty shootout. Penalty shootouts make me sick.
Personally, I am still confident Barca will qualify for the final.